From flameflash at mac.com  Wed Mar  1 18:05:42 2006
From: flameflash at mac.com (Flame Flash)
Date: Wed Mar  1 18:05:44 2006
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] Syncing has ceased to work.
Message-ID: <14212187.1141265142041.JavaMail.flameflash@mac.com>

Not syncing at all.

All right, now it just not syncing period.  The workaround for syncing to my Intel iMac (that refuses to sync properly there and is _not_ compatible under Rosetta fully) by syncing to .Mac via an old Mac and then going to the new one also through .Mac.

.Mac syncs fine, so therefore it is a conflict between .Mac and TMS.

Conflicts are being reported that are not related to subscribed calendars and it has simply hung at "Applying changes to Pocket_PC".

Previously (before resetting the device) it would simply attempt to sync changes and stop after five items, then attempt to download 2000+ changes when I disabled Pocket_PC syncing and tested and .Mac synced fine.

I should not have to disable .Mac syncing just to sync my device.

Interestingly, it is only iCal that it is having issues with, not Address Book.  Address Book syncs just fine every time.

My apologies if this message seems highly... tempermental, however I expect a program to always work, not work intermitedly when nothing changes but the fact that I check complete items in different places (but always make sure to not check the same thing completed in different locations) or add new items to different places (but never the same thing).

-FF
From flameflash at mac.com  Wed Mar  1 19:09:12 2006
From: flameflash at mac.com (FlameFlash)
Date: Wed Mar  1 19:09:26 2006
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] Syncing has ceased to work.
In-Reply-To: <14212187.1141265142041.JavaMail.flameflash@mac.com>
References: <14212187.1141265142041.JavaMail.flameflash@mac.com>
Message-ID: <440661D8.4040008@mac.com>

As an update to my issue, after plugging in the cradle and letting the 
PDA sync for a half hour it finally completed whatever it was that it 
was doing, but of course did not actually sync any of the new 
information sitting on the computer, I had to reenable .Mac syncing for 
that, and therefore restart the process.

Flame Flash wrote:
> Not syncing at all.
>
> All right, now it just not syncing period.  The workaround for syncing to my Intel iMac (that refuses to sync properly there and is _not_ compatible under Rosetta fully) by syncing to .Mac via an old Mac and then going to the new one also through .Mac.
>
> .Mac syncs fine, so therefore it is a conflict between .Mac and TMS.
>
> Conflicts are being reported that are not related to subscribed calendars and it has simply hung at "Applying changes to Pocket_PC".
>
> Previously (before resetting the device) it would simply attempt to sync changes and stop after five items, then attempt to download 2000+ changes when I disabled Pocket_PC syncing and tested and .Mac synced fine.
>
> I should not have to disable .Mac syncing just to sync my device.
>
> Interestingly, it is only iCal that it is having issues with, not Address Book.  Address Book syncs just fine every time.
>
> My apologies if this message seems highly... tempermental, however I expect a program to always work, not work intermitedly when nothing changes but the fact that I check complete items in different places (but always make sure to not check the same thing completed in different locations) or add new items to different places (but never the same thing).
>
> -FF
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From Edward.Asscher at Asscher.nl  Sun Mar  5 12:30:53 2006
From: Edward.Asscher at Asscher.nl (Edward Asscher)
Date: Sun Mar  5 12:31:00 2006
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] <no subject>
Message-ID: <C031090D.1E37%Edward.Asscher@Asscher.nl>


Edward

+31 653 251 342

From chris at csynt.net  Sun Mar  5 13:03:40 2006
From: chris at csynt.net (Chris Syntichakis)
Date: Sun Mar  5 13:03:47 2006
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] Field re-map?
Message-ID: <33907C9B-3415-4BEF-946E-DABE5318C39C@csynt.net>

Hi List,

(I hope that there are other users in this list... )

Anyway, I have a lot of troubles. (trying to sync the pocketpc with  
the addressbook.app)
It seems that even I rename a field on the a/book.app to "Home2" (or  
Home 2) (or work 2)..
it cannot be sync with the pocketpc..
and not only this.. the sync process managed to f*cked a lot of  
phones that their contacts had 2 work or 2 home phone numbers !

Chris 
From jspindel at gamebox.net  Sun Mar  5 13:14:36 2006
From: jspindel at gamebox.net (Jacob Spindel)
Date: Sun Mar  5 13:14:42 2006
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] Field re-map?
In-Reply-To: <33907C9B-3415-4BEF-946E-DABE5318C39C@csynt.net>
References: <33907C9B-3415-4BEF-946E-DABE5318C39C@csynt.net>
Message-ID: <0F6F7DBE-A679-4970-B548-F8F5D664EF07@gamebox.net>

I don't think TMS-WM has the ability to sync multiple home addresses/ 
work addresses/phone numbers (although I'm not certain). You could  
move the secondary information to the Memo field. Personally, if I  
need information that TMS couldn't get onto my PocketPC from my Mac,  
it usually still syncs to my iPod successfully.

Jacob

On Mar 5, 2006, at 1:03 PM, Chris Syntichakis wrote:

> Hi List,
>
> (I hope that there are other users in this list... )
>
> Anyway, I have a lot of troubles. (trying to sync the pocketpc with  
> the addressbook.app)
> It seems that even I rename a field on the a/book.app to  
> "Home2" (or Home 2) (or work 2)..
> it cannot be sync with the pocketpc..
> and not only this.. the sync process managed to f*cked a lot of  
> phones that their contacts had 2 work or 2 home phone numbers !
>
> Chris_______________________________________________
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From chris at csynt.net  Sun Mar  5 13:35:35 2006
From: chris at csynt.net (Chris Syntichakis)
Date: Sun Mar  5 13:35:42 2006
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] Field re-map?
In-Reply-To: <0F6F7DBE-A679-4970-B548-F8F5D664EF07@gamebox.net>
References: <33907C9B-3415-4BEF-946E-DABE5318C39C@csynt.net>
	<0F6F7DBE-A679-4970-B548-F8F5D664EF07@gamebox.net>
Message-ID: <0DCC6BB8-1296-41CF-8FEF-578FD418F612@csynt.net>

Hi,

Thanx..

I managed to delete any memo field as,  I have problems while syncing  
the memo field.. it has duplicate entries on the Outlook.. The main  
reason that I sync with the Outlook too, is that I have to put that  
contacts on my mobile phone (syncs only with outlook)..

Anyway, finally the address.app can only sync these additional fields:
(address.app)  (pocketpc)
Other -> Radio Tel
Pager-> Pager
HomeFax -> HomeFax
WorkFax->Work Fax

BUT no any Work2 or Home2..
perhaps the guys at M/S needs to fix it..

TIA

Chris

On 5 Mar 2006, at 23:14, Jacob Spindel wrote:

> I don't think TMS-WM has the ability to sync multiple home  
> addresses/work addresses/phone numbers (although I'm not certain).  
> You could move the secondary information to the Memo field.  
> Personally, if I need information that TMS couldn't get onto my  
> PocketPC from my Mac, it usually still syncs to my iPod successfully.
>
> Jacob
>
> On Mar 5, 2006, at 1:03 PM, Chris Syntichakis wrote:
>
>> Hi List,
>>
>> (I hope that there are other users in this list... )
>>
>> Anyway, I have a lot of troubles. (trying to sync the pocketpc  
>> with the addressbook.app)
>> It seems that even I rename a field on the a/book.app to  
>> "Home2" (or Home 2) (or work 2)..
>> it cannot be sync with the pocketpc..
>> and not only this.. the sync process managed to f*cked a lot of  
>> phones that their contacts had 2 work or 2 home phone numbers !
>>
>> Chris_______________________________________________
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>> talk
>
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From lists at musikmanufaktur.com  Fri Mar 10 06:00:19 2006
From: lists at musikmanufaktur.com (Johannes Gebauer)
Date: Fri Mar 10 06:00:37 2006
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] Sync will delete new entries on
	handheld
Message-ID: <44118673.3020203@musikmanufaktur.com>

Whenever I enter a new contact on the handheld, and then sync to the 
Mac, the new entry gets deleted. Surely this is not the way it should 
work. How do I get the two to sync properly?

Johannes
-- 
http://www.musikmanufaktur.com
http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de

From chris at csynt.net  Fri Mar 10 08:32:50 2006
From: chris at csynt.net (Chris Syntichakis)
Date: Fri Mar 10 08:32:58 2006
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] Sync will delete new entries on
	handheld
In-Reply-To: <44118673.3020203@musikmanufaktur.com>
References: <44118673.3020203@musikmanufaktur.com>
Message-ID: <3D07AC8E-3F01-4D56-8E86-66DEA5E78A1E@csynt.net>

Hi,

"Welcome to the club"... (sorry Pete@m/s I could not resist..)

What is the contact manager on your Mac ? Addressbook or that buggy  
Entourage?

Chris

On 10 Mar 2006, at 16:00, Johannes Gebauer wrote:

> Whenever I enter a new contact on the handheld, and then sync to  
> the Mac, the new entry gets deleted. Surely this is not the way it  
> should work. How do I get the two to sync properly?
>
> Johannes
> -- 
> http://www.musikmanufaktur.com
> http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de
>
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From lists at musikmanufaktur.com  Fri Mar 10 09:50:38 2006
From: lists at musikmanufaktur.com (Johannes Gebauer)
Date: Fri Mar 10 09:50:42 2006
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] Sync will delete new entries on
	handheld
In-Reply-To: <3D07AC8E-3F01-4D56-8E86-66DEA5E78A1E@csynt.net>
References: <44118673.3020203@musikmanufaktur.com>
	<3D07AC8E-3F01-4D56-8E86-66DEA5E78A1E@csynt.net>
Message-ID: <4411BC6E.3010002@musikmanufaktur.com>

On 10.03.2006 Chris Syntichakis wrote:
> What is the contact manager on your Mac ? Addressbook or that buggy Entourage?

Addressbook.

Johannes
-- 
http://www.musikmanufaktur.com
http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de
From chris at csynt.net  Fri Mar 10 10:40:36 2006
From: chris at csynt.net (Chris Syntichakis)
Date: Fri Mar 10 10:40:42 2006
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] Sync will delete new entries on
	handheld
In-Reply-To: <4411BC6E.3010002@musikmanufaktur.com>
References: <44118673.3020203@musikmanufaktur.com>
	<3D07AC8E-3F01-4D56-8E86-66DEA5E78A1E@csynt.net>
	<4411BC6E.3010002@musikmanufaktur.com>
Message-ID: <CC7AB6A6-DCA6-48FA-B142-161C703BCCCF@csynt.net>


maybe you have to use the Missing sync Utility (BUT this is ONLY my  
opinion.. ask the tech guys about this)
ITS located into www.missingsync.com/testing

did you try to make a hard reset but without delete any data?
just press the power button and reset "hole" on your device, you will  
be asked if you want to CLEAR ALL or NOT, (choose the NOT, in my  
device (Dell AXIM X30) is mapped on the button with an envelope icon)
(before do this, PLEASE backup everything on your device and your  
addressbook/ical on your mac)

Chris

On 10 Mar 2006, at 19:50, Johannes Gebauer wrote:

> On 10.03.2006 Chris Syntichakis wrote:
>> What is the contact manager on your Mac ? Addressbook or that  
>> buggy Entourage?
>
> Addressbook.
>
> Johannes
> -- 
> http://www.musikmanufaktur.com
> http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de
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From kfreeman at markspace.com  Fri Mar 10 11:30:15 2006
From: kfreeman at markspace.com (Ken Freeman)
Date: Fri Mar 10 11:30:24 2006
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] Sync will delete new entries on
	handheld
In-Reply-To: <44118673.3020203@musikmanufaktur.com>
References: <44118673.3020203@musikmanufaktur.com>
Message-ID: <91FEF5BF-64AB-4290-9068-BCC87668BBD6@markspace.com>

That is not normal. You may want to try a SOFT reset of your device.  
It's possible that the device is NOT recogonizing the new record as a  
change and then on the next sync it is getting deleted.

If that doesn't resolve the issue, I would our Support folks to see  
your log file to help figure out what's going on. You can submit a  
support request using the form at http://www.markspace.com/support/ 
request_windowsmobile.html. Be sure to include the log file, which is  
found at ~/Library/Logs/MissingSync for Windows Mobile.log.

Thanks!
Ken

On Mar 10, 2006, at 6:00 AM, Johannes Gebauer wrote:

> Whenever I enter a new contact on the handheld, and then sync to  
> the Mac, the new entry gets deleted. Surely this is not the way it  
> should work. How do I get the two to sync properly?
>
> Johannes
> -- 
> http://www.musikmanufaktur.com
> http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de
>
> _______________________________________________
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From tscottads at sbcglobal.net  Fri Mar 10 19:36:34 2006
From: tscottads at sbcglobal.net (Thomas Scott)
Date: Fri Mar 10 19:36:37 2006
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] T Mobile's MDA Data Device with
	Mobile 5.0
Message-ID: <20060311033634.77106.qmail@web81207.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Is Missing Sync upgraded yet to sync Mobile 5.0 with
iCal & Entourage in OSX 10.4?  I have a Powerbook G4
and an MDA (PDA sold by tMobile).  I'm unable to sync
my calendar & address book.

Missing Sync & PocketMac is installed but my MDA will
not stay connected nor sync via Bluetooth.  Apple says
it's probably because Missing Sync has not developed
an upgrade yet for Mobile 5.0.  But, 2 TMobile
staffers say they can sync their MDA with Mac OSX.

I am able to transfer Word files from my Mac to the
MDA.

Any suggestions? 
From jspindel at gamebox.net  Fri Mar 10 19:45:50 2006
From: jspindel at gamebox.net (Jacob Spindel)
Date: Fri Mar 10 19:45:56 2006
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] T Mobile's MDA Data Device with
	Mobile 5.0
In-Reply-To: <20060311033634.77106.qmail@web81207.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <20060311033634.77106.qmail@web81207.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <3FF737BC-8BF0-4F74-8990-06B11466C3D7@gamebox.net>

Suggestions? How about, please check the archives before posting the  
same question an 80th time...

Neither PocketMac nor TMS currently supports WM5, and trying to run  
both TMS and PM simultaneously is a very bad idea.


On Mar 10, 2006, at 7:36 PM, Thomas Scott wrote:

> Is Missing Sync upgraded yet to sync Mobile 5.0 with
> iCal & Entourage in OSX 10.4?  I have a Powerbook G4
> and an MDA (PDA sold by tMobile).  I'm unable to sync
> my calendar & address book.
>
> Missing Sync & PocketMac is installed but my MDA will
> not stay connected nor sync via Bluetooth.  Apple says
> it's probably because Missing Sync has not developed
> an upgrade yet for Mobile 5.0.  But, 2 TMobile
> staffers say they can sync their MDA with Mac OSX.
>
> I am able to transfer Word files from my Mac to the
> MDA.
>
> Any suggestions?
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From n73 at onetel.com  Fri Mar 10 23:35:12 2006
From: n73 at onetel.com (Nick Hounsfield)
Date: Fri Mar 10 23:35:26 2006
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] T Mobile's MDA Data Device with
	Mobile 5.0
In-Reply-To: <3FF737BC-8BF0-4F74-8990-06B11466C3D7@gamebox.net>
Message-ID: <C0382E30.244%n73@onetel.com>

Hey, lets keep this forum a bit less hostile! The guy only asked a question!


On 11/3/06 3:45 am, "Jacob Spindel" <jspindel@gamebox.net> wrote:

> Suggestions? How about, please check the archives before posting the
> same question an 80th time...
> 
> Neither PocketMac nor TMS currently supports WM5, and trying to run
> both TMS and PM simultaneously is a very bad idea.
> 
> 
> On Mar 10, 2006, at 7:36 PM, Thomas Scott wrote:
> 
>> Is Missing Sync upgraded yet to sync Mobile 5.0 with
>> iCal & Entourage in OSX 10.4?  I have a Powerbook G4
>> and an MDA (PDA sold by tMobile).  I'm unable to sync
>> my calendar & address book.
>> 
>> Missing Sync & PocketMac is installed but my MDA will
>> not stay connected nor sync via Bluetooth.  Apple says
>> it's probably because Missing Sync has not developed
>> an upgrade yet for Mobile 5.0.  But, 2 TMobile
>> staffers say they can sync their MDA with Mac OSX.
>> 
>> I am able to transfer Word files from my Mac to the
>> MDA.
>> 
>> Any suggestions?
>> _______________________________________________
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From johnb at jkbconsulting.com  Sun Mar 12 09:16:01 2006
From: johnb at jkbconsulting.com (John K. Beaird)
Date: Sun Mar 12 09:16:14 2006
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] Sync will delete new entries on
	handheld
In-Reply-To: <3D07AC8E-3F01-4D56-8E86-66DEA5E78A1E@csynt.net>
References: <44118673.3020203@musikmanufaktur.com>
	<3D07AC8E-3F01-4D56-8E86-66DEA5E78A1E@csynt.net>
Message-ID: <1ADF0926-5160-4F38-9368-1AB60FEE5ABD@jkbconsulting.com>

If you are looking for a full contact manager, I highly recommend  
DayLite (from MarketCircle.com).  It's a full fledge ACT replacement  
for the Mac...can be as simple or complex as you need it to be.  And  
it sync's with Missing Sync.  (unless of course you have the new Treo  
700w which the folks at Missing Sync are working hard at fixing!   
(hint, hint - I know it's a challenge guys, but we need it ASAP).

You can download a demo of DayLite and try it out.  Great Mac Software!

-john

On Mar 10, 2006, at 8:32 AM, Chris Syntichakis wrote:

> Hi,
>
> "Welcome to the club"... (sorry Pete@m/s I could not resist..)
>
> What is the contact manager on your Mac ? Addressbook or that buggy  
> Entourage?
>
> Chris
>
> On 10 Mar 2006, at 16:00, Johannes Gebauer wrote:
>
>> Whenever I enter a new contact on the handheld, and then sync to  
>> the Mac, the new entry gets deleted. Surely this is not the way it  
>> should work. How do I get the two to sync properly?
>>
>> Johannes
>> -- 
>> http://www.musikmanufaktur.com
>> http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> missing-sync-winmobile-talk mailing list
>> missing-sync-winmobile-talk@lists.markspace.com
>> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives  
>> can be found at:
>> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-winmobile- 
>> talk
>>
>
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From adam at mypersonalgetaway.com  Sun Mar 12 16:48:32 2006
From: adam at mypersonalgetaway.com (Adam Jackson)
Date: Sun Mar 12 16:58:23 2006
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] Sync will delete new entries on
	handheld
In-Reply-To: <1ADF0926-5160-4F38-9368-1AB60FEE5ABD@jkbconsulting.com>
References: <44118673.3020203@musikmanufaktur.com>
	<3D07AC8E-3F01-4D56-8E86-66DEA5E78A1E@csynt.net>
	<1ADF0926-5160-4F38-9368-1AB60FEE5ABD@jkbconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <FF2C56B0-AA8F-4940-B41B-A2E38B9572DB@mypersonalgetaway.com>

Yea, I swear by my Motorola PEBL and RAZR but my business requires me  
to use the 700w.  They really hooked us up, Pielframa leather cases,  
2gb SD cards, Wif-fi ad ins bluetooth headsets and unlimited data plans.

Either way, We are all PCs but I am the only Mac guy at this IT  
security firm and will be the first to buy a copy of missing sync as  
soon as it receives mobile 5 dot 0 support
------------------------------
Sincerely,
Adam Jackson
http://mypersonalgetaway.com
St. Augustine, FL
904.315.6101
------------------------------


On Mar 12, 2006, at 12:16 PM, John K. Beaird wrote:

> If you are looking for a full contact manager, I highly recommend  
> DayLite (from MarketCircle.com).  It's a full fledge ACT  
> replacement for the Mac...can be as simple or complex as you need  
> it to be.  And it sync's with Missing Sync.  (unless of course you  
> have the new Treo 700w which the folks at Missing Sync are working  
> hard at fixing!  (hint, hint - I know it's a challenge guys, but we  
> need it ASAP).
>
> You can download a demo of DayLite and try it out.  Great Mac  
> Software!
>
> -john
>
> On Mar 10, 2006, at 8:32 AM, Chris Syntichakis wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> "Welcome to the club"... (sorry Pete@m/s I could not resist..)
>>
>> What is the contact manager on your Mac ? Addressbook or that  
>> buggy Entourage?
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> On 10 Mar 2006, at 16:00, Johannes Gebauer wrote:
>>
>>> Whenever I enter a new contact on the handheld, and then sync to  
>>> the Mac, the new entry gets deleted. Surely this is not the way  
>>> it should work. How do I get the two to sync properly?
>>>
>>> Johannes
>>> -- 
>>> http://www.musikmanufaktur.com
>>> http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> missing-sync-winmobile-talk mailing list
>>> missing-sync-winmobile-talk@lists.markspace.com
>>> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives  
>>> can be found at:
>>> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync- 
>>> winmobile-talk
>>>
>>
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>>
>
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>

From WyattG at saccounty.net  Mon Mar 13 14:03:31 2006
From: WyattG at saccounty.net (Wyatt. Greg)
Date: Mon Mar 13 14:03:35 2006
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] Windows Mobile 5.0
Message-ID: <C03B2C33.316%WyattG@saccounty.net>

Any word on when we might expect Windows Mobile 5 compatibility?
From rmy at sdtechnix.com  Mon Mar 13 15:37:44 2006
From: rmy at sdtechnix.com (Richard Yumul)
Date: Mon Mar 13 15:37:46 2006
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] Windows Mobile 5.0
In-Reply-To: <C03B2C33.316%WyattG@saccounty.net>
References: <C03B2C33.316%WyattG@saccounty.net>
Message-ID: <44160248.6040702@sdtechnix.com>

I'm waiting on wm5 support as well.  This is the response that I got 
(attached)...  Looks like we're going to be waiting for a while...

Regards,
Rich Yumul

Wyatt. Greg wrote:
> Any word on when we might expect Windows Mobile 5 compatibility?
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From john at hildenbiddle.com  Mon Mar 13 15:50:30 2006
From: john at hildenbiddle.com (John Hildenbiddle)
Date: Mon Mar 13 15:50:33 2006
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] Audiovox 5600 Address Book
	Integration (SMS and Dial)
Message-ID: <000901c646f8$e92bbfb0$02d71bac@olympus.f5net.com>

While I know this isn't a Mac + Bluetooth + Smartphone support list, I
figured this was a good place to ask if anyone has had any luck getting an
Audiovox 5600 (or any Windows Mobile / Smartphone) to fully integrate with
the Address Book.  I have TMSWM syncing over Bluetooth perfectly so I know
the Bluetooth connection between my Powerbook and phone is working properly,
but I cannot use my Audiovox 5600 to send an SMS message or dial from my
Mac's Address Book.  My Audiovox 5600 Bluetooth device properties looks as
follows:
 
Device Name: Audiovox 5600
Device Type: Phone
Device Services: Service Discovery, Voice Gateway, Voice Gateway, Dial-up
Networking
Paired: Yes
Configured: Yes
Favorite: Yes
Connected: No
Serial Port: Yes
 
Is the problem that the device is not connected, or does this unit simply
not support SMS and dial functions via Bluetooth?
 
Thanks!
From WyattG at saccounty.net  Mon Mar 13 16:10:41 2006
From: WyattG at saccounty.net (Wyatt. Greg)
Date: Mon Mar 13 16:10:37 2006
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] Audiovox 5600 Address Book
	Integration (SMS and Dial)
In-Reply-To: <000901c646f8$e92bbfb0$02d71bac@olympus.f5net.com>
Message-ID: <C03B4A01.31F%WyattG@saccounty.net>

Sorry John, I'm new to the Mac platform and not familiar with the 5600.


On 3/13/06 3:50 PM, "John Hildenbiddle" <john@hildenbiddle.com> wrote:

> While I know this isn't a Mac + Bluetooth + Smartphone support list, I
> figured this was a good place to ask if anyone has had any luck getting an
> Audiovox 5600 (or any Windows Mobile / Smartphone) to fully integrate with
> the Address Book.  I have TMSWM syncing over Bluetooth perfectly so I know
> the Bluetooth connection between my Powerbook and phone is working properly,
> but I cannot use my Audiovox 5600 to send an SMS message or dial from my
> Mac's Address Book.  My Audiovox 5600 Bluetooth device properties looks as
> follows:
>  
> Device Name: Audiovox 5600
> Device Type: Phone
> Device Services: Service Discovery, Voice Gateway, Voice Gateway, Dial-up
> Networking
> Paired: Yes
> Configured: Yes
> Favorite: Yes
> Connected: No
> Serial Port: Yes
>  
> Is the problem that the device is not connected, or does this unit simply
> not support SMS and dial functions via Bluetooth?
>  
> Thanks!
> _______________________________________________
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> missing-sync-winmobile-talk@lists.markspace.com
> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found
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From jdilley at kc.rr.com  Mon Mar 13 16:17:09 2006
From: jdilley at kc.rr.com (Jon Dilley)
Date: Mon Mar 13 16:17:11 2006
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] Audiovox 5600 Address Book
	Integration (SMS and Dial)
In-Reply-To: <C03B4A01.31F%WyattG@saccounty.net>
References: <C03B4A01.31F%WyattG@saccounty.net>
Message-ID: <4092F973-D9A6-408B-BFED-AF97C3BB11AC@kc.rr.com>

I have not experienced any probs with my 5600... but, I never used it  
with bluetooth either

On Mar 13, 2006, at 6:10 PM, Wyatt. Greg wrote:

> Sorry John, I'm new to the Mac platform and not familiar with the  
> 5600.
>
>
> On 3/13/06 3:50 PM, "John Hildenbiddle" <john@hildenbiddle.com> wrote:
>
>> While I know this isn't a Mac + Bluetooth + Smartphone support  
>> list, I
>> figured this was a good place to ask if anyone has had any luck  
>> getting an
>> Audiovox 5600 (or any Windows Mobile / Smartphone) to fully  
>> integrate with
>> the Address Book.  I have TMSWM syncing over Bluetooth perfectly  
>> so I know
>> the Bluetooth connection between my Powerbook and phone is working  
>> properly,
>> but I cannot use my Audiovox 5600 to send an SMS message or dial  
>> from my
>> Mac's Address Book.  My Audiovox 5600 Bluetooth device properties  
>> looks as
>> follows:
>>
>> Device Name: Audiovox 5600
>> Device Type: Phone
>> Device Services: Service Discovery, Voice Gateway, Voice Gateway,  
>> Dial-up
>> Networking
>> Paired: Yes
>> Configured: Yes
>> Favorite: Yes
>> Connected: No
>> Serial Port: Yes
>>
>> Is the problem that the device is not connected, or does this unit  
>> simply
>> not support SMS and dial functions via Bluetooth?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> _______________________________________________
>> missing-sync-winmobile-talk mailing list
>> missing-sync-winmobile-talk@lists.markspace.com
>> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives  
>> can be found
>> at:
>> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-winmobile- 
>> talk
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From kfreeman at markspace.com  Mon Mar 13 16:49:41 2006
From: kfreeman at markspace.com (Ken Freeman)
Date: Mon Mar 13 16:49:51 2006
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] Audiovox 5600 Address Book
	Integration (SMS and Dial)
In-Reply-To: <000901c646f8$e92bbfb0$02d71bac@olympus.f5net.com>
References: <000901c646f8$e92bbfb0$02d71bac@olympus.f5net.com>
Message-ID: <52BFEFE7-C745-4682-B716-209AE0836EA1@markspace.com>

No, I've not been able to dial from Address Book using the Audiovox  
SMT 5600. This is NOT an intended feature of the Missing Sync, and  
relies on services available on different phones.

I did pair an iMate PDA2K Windows Mobile 2003 Pocket PC Phone Edition  
device and it is recognized by Address Book. I initiated the pairing  
from the Mac. Interestingly enough, the Bluetooth setup assistant  
could not find the PDA2K as a phone. It showed up just as a device.  
When the connection was successful a dialog showed three available  
services for this phone. One of which was the option to "Use with  
Address Book." This seems to be the key to enable the phone to dial  
from Address Book. I tried pairing a few other devices and none of  
them gave me this option.

The services listed in the Bluetooth preferences for this phone include:
  File Transfer, Network Access, Network Access, Dial-up Networking,  
OBEX Object Push, Audio Gateway, Audio Gateway, Bluetooth Serial Port

When you click on the Bluetooth icon in Address Book it attempts to  
connect to the PDA2K. On the device I was asked if I wanted to allow  
"Dial-up Networking." I said to allow and then the Mac and PDA2K were  
connected. At that point I could choose "Dial with iMate" or "SMS  
Message" from the pop up menu on a phone number in my Address Book.  
On the next attempt I got the same choice on the handheld and chose  
"Not Allow" and the phone still connected.

Ken

On Mar 13, 2006, at 3:50 PM, John Hildenbiddle wrote:

> While I know this isn't a Mac + Bluetooth + Smartphone support list, I
> figured this was a good place to ask if anyone has had any luck  
> getting an
> Audiovox 5600 (or any Windows Mobile / Smartphone) to fully  
> integrate with
> the Address Book.  I have TMSWM syncing over Bluetooth perfectly so  
> I know
> the Bluetooth connection between my Powerbook and phone is working  
> properly,
> but I cannot use my Audiovox 5600 to send an SMS message or dial  
> from my
> Mac's Address Book.  My Audiovox 5600 Bluetooth device properties  
> looks as
> follows:
>
> Device Name: Audiovox 5600
> Device Type: Phone
> Device Services: Service Discovery, Voice Gateway, Voice Gateway,  
> Dial-up
> Networking
> Paired: Yes
> Configured: Yes
> Favorite: Yes
> Connected: No
> Serial Port: Yes
>
> Is the problem that the device is not connected, or does this unit  
> simply
> not support SMS and dial functions via Bluetooth?
>
> Thanks!
> _______________________________________________
> missing-sync-winmobile-talk mailing list
> missing-sync-winmobile-talk@lists.markspace.com
> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives  
> can be found at:
> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-winmobile- 
> talk

From chris at csynt.net  Mon Mar 13 23:32:41 2006
From: chris at csynt.net (chris@csynt.net)
Date: Mon Mar 13 23:32:57 2006
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] Audiovox 5600 Address
	BookIntegration (SMS and Dial)
Message-ID: <380-22006321473241485@M2W078.mail2web.com>


Hi,

See this link:

http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/wireless/2002/11/27/sms.html

it may work with your mobile...

IMOHO, I think you have to disable TMSWM when use the phone for sms/dial...

Chris


Original Message:
-----------------
From: John Hildenbiddle john@hildenbiddle.com
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 15:50:30 -0800
To: missing-sync-winmobile-talk@lists.markspace.com
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] Audiovox 5600 Address
BookIntegration (SMS and Dial)


While I know this isn't a Mac + Bluetooth + Smartphone support list, I
figured this was a good place to ask if anyone has had any luck getting an
Audiovox 5600 (or any Windows Mobile / Smartphone) to fully integrate with
the Address Book.  I have TMSWM syncing over Bluetooth perfectly so I know
the Bluetooth connection between my Powerbook and phone is working properly,
but I cannot use my Audiovox 5600 to send an SMS message or dial from my
Mac's Address Book.  My Audiovox 5600 Bluetooth device properties looks as
follows:
 
Device Name: Audiovox 5600
Device Type: Phone
Device Services: Service Discovery, Voice Gateway, Voice Gateway, Dial-up
Networking
Paired: Yes
Configured: Yes
Favorite: Yes
Connected: No
Serial Port: Yes
 
Is the problem that the device is not connected, or does this unit simply
not support SMS and dial functions via Bluetooth?
 
Thanks!
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From kfreeman at markspace.com  Tue Mar 14 11:01:27 2006
From: kfreeman at markspace.com (Ken Freeman)
Date: Tue Mar 14 11:01:39 2006
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] Audiovox 5600 Address
	BookIntegration (SMS and Dial)
In-Reply-To: <380-22006321473241485@M2W078.mail2web.com>
References: <380-22006321473241485@M2W078.mail2web.com>
Message-ID: <D80D9164-16F1-4E66-9A07-7A1C85DDAECF@markspace.com>

No, I don't think you have to disable The Missing Sync to use the  
phone for SMS/dial. You don't want to be connected, but you don't  
have to disable anything. Again, some phones seem to support Address  
Book and some don't. You'll know when you pair if "Use with Address  
Book" is in the list of services in the Mac Bluetooth Setup Assistant.

Ken

On Mar 13, 2006, at 11:32 PM, chris@csynt.net wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> See this link:
>
> http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/wireless/2002/11/27/sms.html
>
> it may work with your mobile...
>
> IMOHO, I think you have to disable TMSWM when use the phone for sms/ 
> dial...
>
> Chris
>
>
> Original Message:
> -----------------
> From: John Hildenbiddle john@hildenbiddle.com
> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 15:50:30 -0800
> To: missing-sync-winmobile-talk@lists.markspace.com
> Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] Audiovox 5600 Address
> BookIntegration (SMS and Dial)
>
>
> While I know this isn't a Mac + Bluetooth + Smartphone support list, I
> figured this was a good place to ask if anyone has had any luck  
> getting an
> Audiovox 5600 (or any Windows Mobile / Smartphone) to fully  
> integrate with
> the Address Book.  I have TMSWM syncing over Bluetooth perfectly so  
> I know
> the Bluetooth connection between my Powerbook and phone is working  
> properly,
> but I cannot use my Audiovox 5600 to send an SMS message or dial  
> from my
> Mac's Address Book.  My Audiovox 5600 Bluetooth device properties  
> looks as
> follows:
>
> Device Name: Audiovox 5600
> Device Type: Phone
> Device Services: Service Discovery, Voice Gateway, Voice Gateway,  
> Dial-up
> Networking
> Paired: Yes
> Configured: Yes
> Favorite: Yes
> Connected: No
> Serial Port: Yes
>
> Is the problem that the device is not connected, or does this unit  
> simply
> not support SMS and dial functions via Bluetooth?
>
> Thanks!
> _______________________________________________
> missing-sync-winmobile-talk mailing list
> missing-sync-winmobile-talk@lists.markspace.com
> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives  
> can be
> found at:
> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-winmobile- 
> talk
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From kfreeman at markspace.com  Tue Mar 14 18:31:53 2006
From: kfreeman at markspace.com (Ken Freeman)
Date: Tue Mar 14 18:32:06 2006
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] Information about the New Entourage
	Update
Message-ID: <75E64E8A-69EC-4928-922F-AB9605DE4829@markspace.com>

Microsoft released the Microsoft Office update version 11.2.3. This  
update enables Entourage support for synchronizing with Apple's Sync  
Services. We applaud Microsoft's joining the Sync Service band wagon!

You can continue to use The Missing Sync to synchronize with  
Entourage using the Entourage plugin that comes with the Missing  
Sync. In fact, we are happy to report that Microsoft fixed some bugs  
in the SDK that now allow birthdays and anniversaries to properly sync!

However, we do NOT recommend using the Missing Sync for Windows  
Mobile 2.0.2 release if you enable the Sync Services synchronization  
in Entourage. There is a known problem handling Entourage created  
calendar events. We are testing a Missing Sync for Windows Mobile  
v2.0.3b1 (BETA) update and hope to release a beta this week that  
resolves this problem. Address Book and Tasks seem to sync fine, but  
you will get an error trying to sync calendar events.

Summary!
- Microsoft released a Microsoft office Update v11.2.3 that adds Sync  
Service support in Entourage
- The Entourage plugin in The Missing Sync for Windows Mobile v2.0.2  
works fine with the updated Entourage. In fact Birthday's and  
anniversaries now sync.
- Do NOT enable the Sync Service option in Entourage AND try to sync  
with the Missing Sync iCal plugins. You will get an error and all of  
your calendar items will NOT sync.
- A 2.0.3b1 (BETA) version is expected this week that supports the  
Entourage Sync Service synchronization. This update is does NOT  
support Windows Mobile 5. Nor is it a universal binary for for the  
new Intel Macs, however it runs fine on the new Intel Macs!

More tips and information about synchronizing with the new Entourage  
update and the Missing Sync will follow, but we wanted to give you a  
heads up and recommendation now.

Thanks!
Ken
From neto at bullet.com.br  Tue Mar 14 20:45:33 2006
From: neto at bullet.com.br (Neto)
Date: Tue Mar 14 20:46:21 2006
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] Information about the New
	Entourage Update
In-Reply-To: <75E64E8A-69EC-4928-922F-AB9605DE4829@markspace.com>
Message-ID: <C03D223D.1EDA1%neto@bullet.com.br>

Ken,

Can we expect this update from Microsoft to make faster for Mark/Space to
deliver the so waited compatibility with Windows Mobile 5 or there is no
relation at all?

(sorry those people that have a problem with questions regarding MSWM5)

Thanks

n

On 3/14/06 11:31 PM, "Ken Freeman" :

> Microsoft released the Microsoft Office update version 11.2.3. This
> update enables Entourage support for synchronizing with Apple's Sync
> Services. We applaud Microsoft's joining the Sync Service band wagon!
> 
> You can continue to use The Missing Sync to synchronize with
> Entourage using the Entourage plugin that comes with the Missing
> Sync. In fact, we are happy to report that Microsoft fixed some bugs
> in the SDK that now allow birthdays and anniversaries to properly sync!
> 
> However, we do NOT recommend using the Missing Sync for Windows
> Mobile 2.0.2 release if you enable the Sync Services synchronization
> in Entourage. There is a known problem handling Entourage created
> calendar events. We are testing a Missing Sync for Windows Mobile
> v2.0.3b1 (BETA) update and hope to release a beta this week that
> resolves this problem. Address Book and Tasks seem to sync fine, but
> you will get an error trying to sync calendar events.
> 
> Summary!
> - Microsoft released a Microsoft office Update v11.2.3 that adds Sync
> Service support in Entourage
> - The Entourage plugin in The Missing Sync for Windows Mobile v2.0.2
> works fine with the updated Entourage. In fact Birthday's and
> anniversaries now sync.
> - Do NOT enable the Sync Service option in Entourage AND try to sync
> with the Missing Sync iCal plugins. You will get an error and all of
> your calendar items will NOT sync.
> - A 2.0.3b1 (BETA) version is expected this week that supports the
> Entourage Sync Service synchronization. This update is does NOT
> support Windows Mobile 5. Nor is it a universal binary for for the
> new Intel Macs, however it runs fine on the new Intel Macs!
> 
> More tips and information about synchronizing with the new Entourage
> update and the Missing Sync will follow, but we wanted to give you a
> heads up and recommendation now.
> 
> Thanks!
> Ken
> _______________________________________________
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From kfreeman at markspace.com  Wed Mar 15 09:52:46 2006
From: kfreeman at markspace.com (Ken Freeman)
Date: Wed Mar 15 09:52:59 2006
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] Information about the New Entourage
	Update
In-Reply-To: <C03D223D.1EDA1%neto@bullet.com.br>
References: <C03D223D.1EDA1%neto@bullet.com.br>
Message-ID: <EBD0DA36-0525-4A56-91BF-1956F8AFEA60@markspace.com>

There is NO relation between the Microsoft Office update and our  
Windows Mobile 5 efforts.

Ken

On Mar 14, 2006, at 8:45 PM, Neto wrote:

> Ken,
>
> Can we expect this update from Microsoft to make faster for Mark/ 
> Space to
> deliver the so waited compatibility with Windows Mobile 5 or there  
> is no
> relation at all?
>
> (sorry those people that have a problem with questions regarding  
> MSWM5)
>
> Thanks
>
> n
>
> On 3/14/06 11:31 PM, "Ken Freeman" :
>
>> Microsoft released the Microsoft Office update version 11.2.3. This
>> update enables Entourage support for synchronizing with Apple's Sync
>> Services. We applaud Microsoft's joining the Sync Service band wagon!
>>
>> You can continue to use The Missing Sync to synchronize with
>> Entourage using the Entourage plugin that comes with the Missing
>> Sync. In fact, we are happy to report that Microsoft fixed some bugs
>> in the SDK that now allow birthdays and anniversaries to properly  
>> sync!
>>
>> However, we do NOT recommend using the Missing Sync for Windows
>> Mobile 2.0.2 release if you enable the Sync Services synchronization
>> in Entourage. There is a known problem handling Entourage created
>> calendar events. We are testing a Missing Sync for Windows Mobile
>> v2.0.3b1 (BETA) update and hope to release a beta this week that
>> resolves this problem. Address Book and Tasks seem to sync fine, but
>> you will get an error trying to sync calendar events.
>>
>> Summary!
>> - Microsoft released a Microsoft office Update v11.2.3 that adds Sync
>> Service support in Entourage
>> - The Entourage plugin in The Missing Sync for Windows Mobile v2.0.2
>> works fine with the updated Entourage. In fact Birthday's and
>> anniversaries now sync.
>> - Do NOT enable the Sync Service option in Entourage AND try to sync
>> with the Missing Sync iCal plugins. You will get an error and all of
>> your calendar items will NOT sync.
>> - A 2.0.3b1 (BETA) version is expected this week that supports the
>> Entourage Sync Service synchronization. This update is does NOT
>> support Windows Mobile 5. Nor is it a universal binary for for the
>> new Intel Macs, however it runs fine on the new Intel Macs!
>>
>> More tips and information about synchronizing with the new Entourage
>> update and the Missing Sync will follow, but we wanted to give you a
>> heads up and recommendation now.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Ken
>> _______________________________________________
>> missing-sync-winmobile-talk mailing list
>> missing-sync-winmobile-talk@lists.markspace.com
>> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives  
>> can be found
>> at:
>> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-winmobile- 
>> talk
>
>
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From WyattG at saccounty.net  Wed Mar 15 10:04:13 2006
From: WyattG at saccounty.net (Wyatt. Greg)
Date: Wed Mar 15 10:04:13 2006
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] Information about the New
	Entourage Update
In-Reply-To: <EBD0DA36-0525-4A56-91BF-1956F8AFEA60@markspace.com>
Message-ID: <C03D971D.37F%WyattG@saccounty.net>

Does anyone know of any other resource for using your WM 5 device with a
mac?  I see that pocketmac is also in development of a WM 5 solution.  I am
specifically only looking at a way to download software and manage my device
files from my G4 Imac.  I have a verizon XV 6700.  I work off an exchange
server so I'm not interested in desk top synching.


On 3/15/06 9:52 AM, "Ken Freeman" <kfreeman@markspace.com> wrote:

> There is NO relation between the Microsoft Office update and our
> Windows Mobile 5 efforts.
> 
> Ken
> 
> On Mar 14, 2006, at 8:45 PM, Neto wrote:
> 
>> Ken,
>> 
>> Can we expect this update from Microsoft to make faster for Mark/
>> Space to
>> deliver the so waited compatibility with Windows Mobile 5 or there
>> is no
>> relation at all?
>> 
>> (sorry those people that have a problem with questions regarding
>> MSWM5)
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> n
>> 
>> On 3/14/06 11:31 PM, "Ken Freeman" :
>> 
>>> Microsoft released the Microsoft Office update version 11.2.3. This
>>> update enables Entourage support for synchronizing with Apple's Sync
>>> Services. We applaud Microsoft's joining the Sync Service band wagon!
>>> 
>>> You can continue to use The Missing Sync to synchronize with
>>> Entourage using the Entourage plugin that comes with the Missing
>>> Sync. In fact, we are happy to report that Microsoft fixed some bugs
>>> in the SDK that now allow birthdays and anniversaries to properly
>>> sync!
>>> 
>>> However, we do NOT recommend using the Missing Sync for Windows
>>> Mobile 2.0.2 release if you enable the Sync Services synchronization
>>> in Entourage. There is a known problem handling Entourage created
>>> calendar events. We are testing a Missing Sync for Windows Mobile
>>> v2.0.3b1 (BETA) update and hope to release a beta this week that
>>> resolves this problem. Address Book and Tasks seem to sync fine, but
>>> you will get an error trying to sync calendar events.
>>> 
>>> Summary!
>>> - Microsoft released a Microsoft office Update v11.2.3 that adds Sync
>>> Service support in Entourage
>>> - The Entourage plugin in The Missing Sync for Windows Mobile v2.0.2
>>> works fine with the updated Entourage. In fact Birthday's and
>>> anniversaries now sync.
>>> - Do NOT enable the Sync Service option in Entourage AND try to sync
>>> with the Missing Sync iCal plugins. You will get an error and all of
>>> your calendar items will NOT sync.
>>> - A 2.0.3b1 (BETA) version is expected this week that supports the
>>> Entourage Sync Service synchronization. This update is does NOT
>>> support Windows Mobile 5. Nor is it a universal binary for for the
>>> new Intel Macs, however it runs fine on the new Intel Macs!
>>> 
>>> More tips and information about synchronizing with the new Entourage
>>> update and the Missing Sync will follow, but we wanted to give you a
>>> heads up and recommendation now.
>>> 
>>> Thanks!
>>> Ken
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> missing-sync-winmobile-talk mailing list
>>> missing-sync-winmobile-talk@lists.markspace.com
>>> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives
>>> can be found
>>> at:
>>> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-winmobile-
>>> talk
>> 
>> 
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>> talk
> 
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From kulak25 at aol.com  Wed Mar 15 10:11:05 2006
From: kulak25 at aol.com (Brian Kulak)
Date: Wed Mar 15 10:11:12 2006
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] Information about the New
	Entourage Update
In-Reply-To: <C03D971D.37F%WyattG@saccounty.net>
Message-ID: <C03DB4D9.6345%kulak25@aol.com>

You can use www.4smartphone.com to sync.


On 3/15/06 12:04 PM, "Wyatt. Greg" <WyattG@saccounty.net> wrote:

> Does anyone know of any other resource for using your WM 5 device with a
> mac?  I see that pocketmac is also in development of a WM 5 solution.  I am
> specifically only looking at a way to download software and manage my device
> files from my G4 Imac.  I have a verizon XV 6700.  I work off an exchange
> server so I'm not interested in desk top synching.
> 
> 
> On 3/15/06 9:52 AM, "Ken Freeman" <kfreeman@markspace.com> wrote:
> 
>> There is NO relation between the Microsoft Office update and our
>> Windows Mobile 5 efforts.
>> 
>> Ken
>> 
>> On Mar 14, 2006, at 8:45 PM, Neto wrote:
>> 
>>> Ken,
>>> 
>>> Can we expect this update from Microsoft to make faster for Mark/
>>> Space to
>>> deliver the so waited compatibility with Windows Mobile 5 or there
>>> is no
>>> relation at all?
>>> 
>>> (sorry those people that have a problem with questions regarding
>>> MSWM5)
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> n
>>> 
>>> On 3/14/06 11:31 PM, "Ken Freeman" :
>>> 
>>>> Microsoft released the Microsoft Office update version 11.2.3. This
>>>> update enables Entourage support for synchronizing with Apple's Sync
>>>> Services. We applaud Microsoft's joining the Sync Service band wagon!
>>>> 
>>>> You can continue to use The Missing Sync to synchronize with
>>>> Entourage using the Entourage plugin that comes with the Missing
>>>> Sync. In fact, we are happy to report that Microsoft fixed some bugs
>>>> in the SDK that now allow birthdays and anniversaries to properly
>>>> sync!
>>>> 
>>>> However, we do NOT recommend using the Missing Sync for Windows
>>>> Mobile 2.0.2 release if you enable the Sync Services synchronization
>>>> in Entourage. There is a known problem handling Entourage created
>>>> calendar events. We are testing a Missing Sync for Windows Mobile
>>>> v2.0.3b1 (BETA) update and hope to release a beta this week that
>>>> resolves this problem. Address Book and Tasks seem to sync fine, but
>>>> you will get an error trying to sync calendar events.
>>>> 
>>>> Summary!
>>>> - Microsoft released a Microsoft office Update v11.2.3 that adds Sync
>>>> Service support in Entourage
>>>> - The Entourage plugin in The Missing Sync for Windows Mobile v2.0.2
>>>> works fine with the updated Entourage. In fact Birthday's and
>>>> anniversaries now sync.
>>>> - Do NOT enable the Sync Service option in Entourage AND try to sync
>>>> with the Missing Sync iCal plugins. You will get an error and all of
>>>> your calendar items will NOT sync.
>>>> - A 2.0.3b1 (BETA) version is expected this week that supports the
>>>> Entourage Sync Service synchronization. This update is does NOT
>>>> support Windows Mobile 5. Nor is it a universal binary for for the
>>>> new Intel Macs, however it runs fine on the new Intel Macs!
>>>> 
>>>> More tips and information about synchronizing with the new Entourage
>>>> update and the Missing Sync will follow, but we wanted to give you a
>>>> heads up and recommendation now.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> Ken
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> missing-sync-winmobile-talk mailing list
>>>> missing-sync-winmobile-talk@lists.markspace.com
>>>> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives
>>>> can be found
>>>> at:
>>>> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-winmobile-
>>>> talk
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> missing-sync-winmobile-talk@lists.markspace.com
>>> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives
>>> can be found at:
>>> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-winmobile-
>>> talk
>> 
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>> at:
>> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-winmobile-talk
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From WyattG at saccounty.net  Wed Mar 15 10:16:36 2006
From: WyattG at saccounty.net (Wyatt. Greg)
Date: Wed Mar 15 10:16:36 2006
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] Information about the New
	Entourage Update
In-Reply-To: <C03DB4D9.6345%kulak25@aol.com>
Message-ID: <C03D9A04.386%WyattG@saccounty.net>

What are you referring to when you say 'synch'?


On 3/15/06 10:11 AM, "Brian Kulak" <kulak25@aol.com> wrote:

> You can use www.4smartphone.com to sync.
> 
> 
> On 3/15/06 12:04 PM, "Wyatt. Greg" <WyattG@saccounty.net> wrote:
> 
>> Does anyone know of any other resource for using your WM 5 device with a
>> mac?  I see that pocketmac is also in development of a WM 5 solution.  I am
>> specifically only looking at a way to download software and manage my device
>> files from my G4 Imac.  I have a verizon XV 6700.  I work off an exchange
>> server so I'm not interested in desk top synching.
>> 
>> 
>> On 3/15/06 9:52 AM, "Ken Freeman" <kfreeman@markspace.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> There is NO relation between the Microsoft Office update and our
>>> Windows Mobile 5 efforts.
>>> 
>>> Ken
>>> 
>>> On Mar 14, 2006, at 8:45 PM, Neto wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Ken,
>>>> 
>>>> Can we expect this update from Microsoft to make faster for Mark/
>>>> Space to
>>>> deliver the so waited compatibility with Windows Mobile 5 or there
>>>> is no
>>>> relation at all?
>>>> 
>>>> (sorry those people that have a problem with questions regarding
>>>> MSWM5)
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks
>>>> 
>>>> n
>>>> 
>>>> On 3/14/06 11:31 PM, "Ken Freeman" :
>>>> 
>>>>> Microsoft released the Microsoft Office update version 11.2.3. This
>>>>> update enables Entourage support for synchronizing with Apple's Sync
>>>>> Services. We applaud Microsoft's joining the Sync Service band wagon!
>>>>> 
>>>>> You can continue to use The Missing Sync to synchronize with
>>>>> Entourage using the Entourage plugin that comes with the Missing
>>>>> Sync. In fact, we are happy to report that Microsoft fixed some bugs
>>>>> in the SDK that now allow birthdays and anniversaries to properly
>>>>> sync!
>>>>> 
>>>>> However, we do NOT recommend using the Missing Sync for Windows
>>>>> Mobile 2.0.2 release if you enable the Sync Services synchronization
>>>>> in Entourage. There is a known problem handling Entourage created
>>>>> calendar events. We are testing a Missing Sync for Windows Mobile
>>>>> v2.0.3b1 (BETA) update and hope to release a beta this week that
>>>>> resolves this problem. Address Book and Tasks seem to sync fine, but
>>>>> you will get an error trying to sync calendar events.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Summary!
>>>>> - Microsoft released a Microsoft office Update v11.2.3 that adds Sync
>>>>> Service support in Entourage
>>>>> - The Entourage plugin in The Missing Sync for Windows Mobile v2.0.2
>>>>> works fine with the updated Entourage. In fact Birthday's and
>>>>> anniversaries now sync.
>>>>> - Do NOT enable the Sync Service option in Entourage AND try to sync
>>>>> with the Missing Sync iCal plugins. You will get an error and all of
>>>>> your calendar items will NOT sync.
>>>>> - A 2.0.3b1 (BETA) version is expected this week that supports the
>>>>> Entourage Sync Service synchronization. This update is does NOT
>>>>> support Windows Mobile 5. Nor is it a universal binary for for the
>>>>> new Intel Macs, however it runs fine on the new Intel Macs!
>>>>> 
>>>>> More tips and information about synchronizing with the new Entourage
>>>>> update and the Missing Sync will follow, but we wanted to give you a
>>>>> heads up and recommendation now.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>> Ken
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> missing-sync-winmobile-talk mailing list
>>>>> missing-sync-winmobile-talk@lists.markspace.com
>>>>> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives
>>>>> can be found
>>>>> at:
>>>>> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-winmobile-
>>>>> talk
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>> missing-sync-winmobile-talk@lists.markspace.com
>>>> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives
>>>> can be found at:
>>>> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-winmobile-
>>>> talk
>>> 
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> 
> 
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From donald.stidwell at mac.com  Wed Mar 15 10:55:14 2006
From: donald.stidwell at mac.com (Donald Stidwell)
Date: Wed Mar 15 10:55:19 2006
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] Information about the New	Entourage
	Update
In-Reply-To: <C03D971D.37F%WyattG@saccounty.net>
References: <C03D971D.37F%WyattG@saccounty.net>
Message-ID: <FB73F0E0-7445-4E9A-9B34-59B95FEB5E5E@mac.com>


On Mar 15, 2006, at 1:04 PM, Wyatt. Greg wrote:

> Does anyone know of any other resource for using your WM 5 device  
> with a
> mac?  I see that pocketmac is also in development of a WM 5  
> solution.  I am
> specifically only looking at a way to download software and manage  
> my device
> files from my G4 Imac.  I have a verizon XV 6700.  I work off an  
> exchange
> server so I'm not interested in desk top synching.
>

Use the CAB files for installing software. A lot of PPC software  
sites offer the cab files as a separate download. You can download  
these on your Mac and copy to your device for installation. For  
connection to your device without MS, you can use CardExport   
(www.softick.com) on your device which will make the cards on your  
device appear as local drives on your Mac.

Don


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Porque no me averg?enzo del evangelio: porque es potencia de Dios  
para salud ? todo aquel que cree; (Rom. 1:16)
----
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From lists at musikmanufaktur.com  Wed Mar 15 11:07:19 2006
From: lists at musikmanufaktur.com (Johannes Gebauer)
Date: Wed Mar 15 12:46:25 2006
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] Information about the New	Entourage
	Update
In-Reply-To: <FB73F0E0-7445-4E9A-9B34-59B95FEB5E5E@mac.com>
References: <C03D971D.37F%WyattG@saccounty.net>
	<FB73F0E0-7445-4E9A-9B34-59B95FEB5E5E@mac.com>
Message-ID: <441865E7.5010004@musikmanufaktur.com>

On 15.03.2006 Donald Stidwell wrote:
> Use the CAB files for installing software. A lot of PPC software sites offer the cab files as a separate download. You can download these on your Mac and copy to your device for installation. For connection to your device without MS, you can use CardExport  (www.softick.com) on your device which will make the cards on your device appear as local drives on your Mac.

Ort just use a USB card reader to mount the card on your Mac. I have a 
very low cost HAMA card reader which works perfectly. Much more secure 
for large files than mounting the device on the desktop.

Johannes
-- 
http://www.musikmanufaktur.com
http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de

From WyattG at saccounty.net  Wed Mar 15 12:58:21 2006
From: WyattG at saccounty.net (Wyatt. Greg)
Date: Wed Mar 15 12:58:24 2006
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] Information about the New
	Entourage Update
In-Reply-To: <441865E7.5010004@musikmanufaktur.com>
Message-ID: <C03DBFED.39E%WyattG@saccounty.net>

Thank you Johannes and Donald for your response.  I knew a lot of people
were much smarter than I and would have an answer.


On 3/15/06 11:07 AM, "Johannes Gebauer" <lists@musikmanufaktur.com> wrote:

> On 15.03.2006 Donald Stidwell wrote:
>> Use the CAB files for installing software. A lot of PPC software sites offer
>> the cab files as a separate download. You can download these on your Mac and
>> copy to your device for installation. For connection to your device without
>> MS, you can use CardExport  (www.softick.com) on your device which will make
>> the cards on your device appear as local drives on your Mac.
> 
> Ort just use a USB card reader to mount the card on your Mac. I have a
> very low cost HAMA card reader which works perfectly. Much more secure
> for large files than mounting the device on the desktop.
> 
> Johannes
From jordan.th at gmail.com  Wed Mar 15 13:02:46 2006
From: jordan.th at gmail.com (Jordan Thevenow-Harrison)
Date: Wed Mar 15 13:03:00 2006
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] Information about the New
	Entourage Update
In-Reply-To: <C03DBFED.39E%WyattG@saccounty.net>
Message-ID: <C03DEB26.9A2%jordan.th@gmail.com>

You can also send the file over Bluetooth if your device is so equipped. It
gives an error about  the device not being able to accept this kind of file,
but you can proceed anyway.


On 3/15/06 3:58 PM, "Wyatt. Greg" <WyattG@saccounty.net> wrote:

> Thank you Johannes and Donald for your response.  I knew a lot of people
> were much smarter than I and would have an answer.
> 
> 
> On 3/15/06 11:07 AM, "Johannes Gebauer" <lists@musikmanufaktur.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 15.03.2006 Donald Stidwell wrote:
>>> Use the CAB files for installing software. A lot of PPC software sites offer
>>> the cab files as a separate download. You can download these on your Mac and
>>> copy to your device for installation. For connection to your device without
>>> MS, you can use CardExport  (www.softick.com) on your device which will make
>>> the cards on your device appear as local drives on your Mac.
>> 
>> Ort just use a USB card reader to mount the card on your Mac. I have a
>> very low cost HAMA card reader which works perfectly. Much more secure
>> for large files than mounting the device on the desktop.
>> 
>> Johannes
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From WyattG at saccounty.net  Wed Mar 15 13:13:06 2006
From: WyattG at saccounty.net (Wyatt. Greg)
Date: Wed Mar 15 13:13:07 2006
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] Information about the New
	Entourage Update
In-Reply-To: <C03DEB26.9A2%jordan.th@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C03DC362.3A3%WyattG@saccounty.net>

I went to softick.com and when I clicked on the cab file of cardexport II
for windows 5 I just got a page of computer language?  I trying to download
to my G4Imac with the latest install of Os X.  Am I doing something wrong?
Sorry for not be very computer literate.  I work for the Sacramento County
Coroner's Office as the Assistant Coroner and I just switched to Mac after
having had enough of windows crashing.  I'm new to the Mac and also to the
PPC.  This is my first PPC.


On 3/15/06 1:02 PM, "Jordan Thevenow-Harrison" <jordan.th@gmail.com> wrote:

> You can also send the file over Bluetooth if your device is so equipped. It
> gives an error about  the device not being able to accept this kind of file,
> but you can proceed anyway.
> 
> 
> On 3/15/06 3:58 PM, "Wyatt. Greg" <WyattG@saccounty.net> wrote:
> 
>> Thank you Johannes and Donald for your response.  I knew a lot of people
>> were much smarter than I and would have an answer.
>> 
>> 
>> On 3/15/06 11:07 AM, "Johannes Gebauer" <lists@musikmanufaktur.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 15.03.2006 Donald Stidwell wrote:
>>>> Use the CAB files for installing software. A lot of PPC software sites
>>>> offer
>>>> the cab files as a separate download. You can download these on your Mac
>>>> and
>>>> copy to your device for installation. For connection to your device without
>>>> MS, you can use CardExport  (www.softick.com) on your device which will
>>>> make
>>>> the cards on your device appear as local drives on your Mac.
>>> 
>>> Ort just use a USB card reader to mount the card on your Mac. I have a
>>> very low cost HAMA card reader which works perfectly. Much more secure
>>> for large files than mounting the device on the desktop.
>>> 
>>> Johannes
>> _______________________________________________
>> missing-sync-winmobile-talk mailing list
>> missing-sync-winmobile-talk@lists.markspace.com
>> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found
>> at:
>> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-winmobile-talk
> 
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From neto at bullet.com.br  Wed Mar 15 13:15:18 2006
From: neto at bullet.com.br (Neto)
Date: Wed Mar 15 13:16:18 2006
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] Information about the New
	Entourage Update
In-Reply-To: <C03DBFED.39E%WyattG@saccounty.net>
Message-ID: <C03E0A36.1EE15%neto@bullet.com.br>

I wrote a tutorial for mac/jasjar (WM5) bluetooth exchange, and bluetooth
sync with entourage.
It's kind of tricky but I'm using this procedure in a day-to-day basis.

http://www.spoon.com.br/macjasjar.zip

Maybe it will work for you...


On 3/15/06 5:58 PM, "Wyatt. Greg" :

> Thank you Johannes and Donald for your response.  I knew a lot of people
> were much smarter than I and would have an answer.
> 
> 
> On 3/15/06 11:07 AM, "Johannes Gebauer" <lists@musikmanufaktur.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 15.03.2006 Donald Stidwell wrote:
>>> Use the CAB files for installing software. A lot of PPC software sites offer
>>> the cab files as a separate download. You can download these on your Mac and
>>> copy to your device for installation. For connection to your device without
>>> MS, you can use CardExport  (www.softick.com) on your device which will make
>>> the cards on your device appear as local drives on your Mac.
>> 
>> Ort just use a USB card reader to mount the card on your Mac. I have a
>> very low cost HAMA card reader which works perfectly. Much more secure
>> for large files than mounting the device on the desktop.
>> 
>> Johannes
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From donald.stidwell at mac.com  Wed Mar 15 13:25:36 2006
From: donald.stidwell at mac.com (Donald Stidwell)
Date: Wed Mar 15 13:25:44 2006
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] Information about the New	Entourage
	Update
In-Reply-To: <C03DC362.3A3%WyattG@saccounty.net>
References: <C03DC362.3A3%WyattG@saccounty.net>
Message-ID: <1D7D8B94-4B8A-4C6C-B3D4-2C96AB8B9CD3@mac.com>

Right mouse click (or ctrl-click) and choose download linked file if  
using Safari. (For some reason,Safari doesn't know how to handle cab  
files). It will download as cardexport.ARMV4.CAB.txt. Remove the .txt  
extension and you'll have a useable cab file. To get it to your  
Pocket PC you'll need to use a card reader or you can send it to your  
Pocket PC via Bluetooth if you have that on your Mac.

Once on your PPC, go to wherever you put it and run it. It will  
install itself and then delete the CAB file when done. If it asks you  
for a destination, choose main memory.

Hope this helps.


On Mar 15, 2006, at 4:13 PM, Wyatt. Greg wrote:

> I went to softick.com and when I clicked on the cab file of  
> cardexport II
> for windows 5 I just got a page of computer language?  I trying to  
> download
> to my G4Imac with the latest install of Os X.  Am I doing something  
> wrong?
> Sorry for not be very computer literate.  I work for the Sacramento  
> County
> Coroner's Office as the Assistant Coroner and I just switched to  
> Mac after
> having had enough of windows crashing.  I'm new to the Mac and also  
> to the
> PPC.  This is my first PPC.
>
>
> On 3/15/06 1:02 PM, "Jordan Thevenow-Harrison"  
> <jordan.th@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> You can also send the file over Bluetooth if your device is so  
>> equipped. It
>> gives an error about  the device not being able to accept this  
>> kind of file,
>> but you can proceed anyway.
>>
>>
>> On 3/15/06 3:58 PM, "Wyatt. Greg" <WyattG@saccounty.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you Johannes and Donald for your response.  I knew a lot of  
>>> people
>>> were much smarter than I and would have an answer.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/15/06 11:07 AM, "Johannes Gebauer"  
>>> <lists@musikmanufaktur.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 15.03.2006 Donald Stidwell wrote:
>>>>> Use the CAB files for installing software. A lot of PPC  
>>>>> software sites
>>>>> offer
>>>>> the cab files as a separate download. You can download these on  
>>>>> your Mac
>>>>> and
>>>>> copy to your device for installation. For connection to your  
>>>>> device without
>>>>> MS, you can use CardExport  (www.softick.com) on your device  
>>>>> which will
>>>>> make
>>>>> the cards on your device appear as local drives on your Mac.
>>>>
>>>> Ort just use a USB card reader to mount the card on your Mac. I  
>>>> have a
>>>> very low cost HAMA card reader which works perfectly. Much more  
>>>> secure
>>>> for large files than mounting the device on the desktop.
>>>>
>>>> Johannes
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives  
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>>
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From myjl at citycable.ch  Wed Mar 15 15:52:43 2006
From: myjl at citycable.ch (myjl)
Date: Wed Mar 15 15:52:51 2006
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] Information about the New	Entourage
	Update
In-Reply-To: <1D7D8B94-4B8A-4C6C-B3D4-2C96AB8B9CD3@mac.com>
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Hi !

If you download an installation file in ".exe" format, you can  
extract the "cab" file with the tool "File juicer". You can find it  
here : http://echoone.com/filejuicer/
Really useful :-)

Have fun !

Jean-Luc

Le 15 mars 06 ? 22:25, Donald Stidwell a ?crit :

> Right mouse click (or ctrl-click) and choose download linked file  
> if using Safari. (For some reason,Safari doesn't know how to handle  
> cab files). It will download as cardexport.ARMV4.CAB.txt. Remove  
> the .txt extension and you'll have a useable cab file. To get it to  
> your Pocket PC you'll need to use a card reader or you can send it  
> to your Pocket PC via Bluetooth if you have that on your Mac.
>
> Once on your PPC, go to wherever you put it and run it. It will  
> install itself and then delete the CAB file when done. If it asks  
> you for a destination, choose main memory.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
>
> On Mar 15, 2006, at 4:13 PM, Wyatt. Greg wrote:
>
>> I went to softick.com and when I clicked on the cab file of  
>> cardexport II
>> for windows 5 I just got a page of computer language?  I trying to  
>> download
>> to my G4Imac with the latest install of Os X.  Am I doing  
>> something wrong?
>> Sorry for not be very computer literate.  I work for the  
>> Sacramento County
>> Coroner's Office as the Assistant Coroner and I just switched to  
>> Mac after
>> having had enough of windows crashing.  I'm new to the Mac and  
>> also to the
>> PPC.  This is my first PPC.
>>
>>
>> On 3/15/06 1:02 PM, "Jordan Thevenow-Harrison"  
>> <jordan.th@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> You can also send the file over Bluetooth if your device is so  
>>> equipped. It
>>> gives an error about  the device not being able to accept this  
>>> kind of file,
>>> but you can proceed anyway.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/15/06 3:58 PM, "Wyatt. Greg" <WyattG@saccounty.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thank you Johannes and Donald for your response.  I knew a lot  
>>>> of people
>>>> were much smarter than I and would have an answer.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 3/15/06 11:07 AM, "Johannes Gebauer"  
>>>> <lists@musikmanufaktur.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 15.03.2006 Donald Stidwell wrote:
>>>>>> Use the CAB files for installing software. A lot of PPC  
>>>>>> software sites
>>>>>> offer
>>>>>> the cab files as a separate download. You can download these  
>>>>>> on your Mac
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> copy to your device for installation. For connection to your  
>>>>>> device without
>>>>>> MS, you can use CardExport  (www.softick.com) on your device  
>>>>>> which will
>>>>>> make
>>>>>> the cards on your device appear as local drives on your Mac.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ort just use a USB card reader to mount the card on your Mac. I  
>>>>> have a
>>>>> very low cost HAMA card reader which works perfectly. Much more  
>>>>> secure
>>>>> for large files than mounting the device on the desktop.
>>>>>
>>>>> Johannes
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From sstrippoli at mac.com  Thu Mar 16 08:19:32 2006
From: sstrippoli at mac.com (s.strippoli)
Date: Thu Mar 16 08:19:35 2006
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] Re: [MS-WinMobile-talk] SYNC PROTOCOLS
In-Reply-To: <D80D9164-16F1-4E66-9A07-7A1C85DDAECF@markspace.com>
References: <380-22006321473241485@M2W078.mail2web.com>
	<D80D9164-16F1-4E66-9A07-7A1C85DDAECF@markspace.com>
Message-ID: <3154866.1142525972377.JavaMail.sstrippoli@mac.com>

 

Dear Ken  and/or  markspace staff - 


It came to my attention through correspondence with others as well as myself,   
   that there is some general confusion or lack of understanding re: exactly how
   the different Sync options function.

please help me (and others) to better understand the protocol & process that
Missing Sync Windows Mobile (MSWM) follows with different sync options or choices.

1)
If one selects  Entourage Overwrites Device,
 does Missing Sync check to see just which (if any) records are changed ?
a.--
   If so, does it then change ONLY the records that are new or changed ?
b.--
   Or does it blindly just write ALL records over again, regardless ?


2)
If one selects  Synchronize,
 does Missing Sync check to see just which (if any) records are changed ?
  And is the sync FIELD specific ?
a.--
  If so, does it then change just the records that are new or changed on each end ?
b.--
   in writing records, does this sync write to ONLY the fields that are changed  or
    does it write the ENTIRE record over again (all fields regardless).
c.--
   in cases where a specific record has a change to fields A, B & C on desktop
    AND to fields X,Y & Z on device,  how does MSWM 2 handle synchronizing this ?
      - do BOTH desktop & device update to the new info in A, B, C, X, Y, & Z
      - does one side (desktop or device) take precedence and change in other get lost 
      - does MSWM 2  write duplicate records in this case
      - is there some other outcome ???

3)
lastly, how do the Sync choices affect or impact the amount of time required 
   for one type of sync over the other ? 



Please reply "on-list" rather than to me personally so we can all benefit.
In responding, please try to address & clarify each case or issue.


Thank you in advance for your patience and assistance in helping
    to teach us to better use your product.

  sstrippoli
.
.
.
From designscotland at mac.com  Thu Mar 16 10:18:56 2006
From: designscotland at mac.com (Steve Towle - DSV)
Date: Thu Mar 16 10:18:58 2006
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On Thursday, March 16, 2006, at 04:20PM, s.strippoli <sstrippoli@mac.com> wrote:

> 
>
>Dear Ken  and/or  markspace staff - 
>
>
>It came to my attention through correspondence with others as well as myself,   
>   that there is some general confusion or lack of understanding re: exactly how
>   the different Sync options function.
>
>please help me (and others) to better understand the protocol & process that
>Missing Sync Windows Mobile (MSWM) follows with different sync options or choices.
>
>1)
>If one selects  Entourage Overwrites Device,
> does Missing Sync check to see just which (if any) records are changed ?
>a.--
>   If so, does it then change ONLY the records that are new or changed ?
>b.--
>   Or does it blindly just write ALL records over again, regardless ?
>
>
>2)
>If one selects  Synchronize,
> does Missing Sync check to see just which (if any) records are changed ?
>  And is the sync FIELD specific ?
>a.--
>  If so, does it then change just the records that are new or changed on each end ?
>b.--
>   in writing records, does this sync write to ONLY the fields that are changed  or
>    does it write the ENTIRE record over again (all fields regardless).
>c.--
>   in cases where a specific record has a change to fields A, B & C on desktop
>    AND to fields X,Y & Z on device,  how does MSWM 2 handle synchronizing this ?
>      - do BOTH desktop & device update to the new info in A, B, C, X, Y, & Z
>      - does one side (desktop or device) take precedence and change in other get lost 
>      - does MSWM 2  write duplicate records in this case
>      - is there some other outcome ???
>
>3)
>lastly, how do the Sync choices affect or impact the amount of time required 
>   for one type of sync over the other ? 
>
>
>
>Please reply "on-list" rather than to me personally so we can all benefit.
>In responding, please try to address & clarify each case or issue.
>
>
>Thank you in advance for your patience and assistance in helping
>    to teach us to better use your product.
>
>  sstrippoli
>.
>.
>.
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From brendan.bank at imap4all.com  Thu Mar 16 15:01:16 2006
From: brendan.bank at imap4all.com (Brendan Bank)
Date: Thu Mar 16 15:01:41 2006
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] Information about the New Entourage
	Update
In-Reply-To: <75E64E8A-69EC-4928-922F-AB9605DE4829@markspace.com>
References: <75E64E8A-69EC-4928-922F-AB9605DE4829@markspace.com>
Message-ID: <4C7CB553-5AE1-47BB-8775-7DC9110A6709@imap4all.com>

Hi Ken,

With all due respect, and my apologies for all on this list who take  
offence by bringing this up.

Why are you not able to tell us what your release schedule is for  
Windows Mobile 5 support? My take on this is that either there is a  
technical issue, which MarkSpace is not able to resolve (but I really  
doubt that!) or there is a non-technical issue in the way aka  
Microsoft SDK license issues etc. Or is Microsoft planning to support  
wm5 directly through ISYNC?

I have used your product on my palm Treo650 ,Ipaq and tried to used  
it on my Qtek9100 (ok I did not read the fine print well enough,  
expecting you did support wm5). Manage my expectations! Or tell me  
you will never be able to satisfy my desire. That?s fine too. I'm in  
the software development business myself and telling my customers I  
may be able to support them but I'm not sure when is just not good  
enough. They expect reasonable release dates. And so I'm I.

With best regards,

Brendan Bank

On 15-mrt-2006, at 3:31, Ken Freeman wrote:

> - A 2.0.3b1 (BETA) version is expected this week that supports the  
> Entourage Sync Service synchronization. This update is does NOT  
> support Windows Mobile 5. Nor is it a universal binary for for the  
> new Intel Macs, however it runs fine on the new Intel Macs!

From jspindel at gamebox.net  Thu Mar 16 15:11:34 2006
From: jspindel at gamebox.net (jspindel@gamebox.net)
Date: Thu Mar 16 15:11:40 2006
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] Information about the New
	EntourageUpdate
Message-ID: <380-220063416231134282@M2W103.mail2web.com>

In my experience, software companies generally don't give release dates for
anything... ever. I'm a programmer and it's amazing how a seemingly simple
problem can end up taking months to fix (and occasionally vice versa, if
you're lucky). It's just hard to predict when software will be finished.

Jacob

Original Message:
-----------------
From: Brendan Bank brendan.bank@imap4all.com
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 00:01:16 +0100
To: missing-sync-winmobile-talk@lists.markspace.com
Subject: Re: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] Information about the New
EntourageUpdate


Hi Ken,

With all due respect, and my apologies for all on this list who take  
offence by bringing this up.

Why are you not able to tell us what your release schedule is for  
Windows Mobile 5 support? My take on this is that either there is a  
technical issue, which MarkSpace is not able to resolve (but I really  
doubt that!) or there is a non-technical issue in the way aka  
Microsoft SDK license issues etc. Or is Microsoft planning to support  
wm5 directly through ISYNC?

I have used your product on my palm Treo650 ,Ipaq and tried to used  
it on my Qtek9100 (ok I did not read the fine print well enough,  
expecting you did support wm5). Manage my expectations! Or tell me  
you will never be able to satisfy my desire. That?s fine too. I'm in  
the software development business myself and telling my customers I  
may be able to support them but I'm not sure when is just not good  
enough. They expect reasonable release dates. And so I'm I.

With best regards,

Brendan Bank

On 15-mrt-2006, at 3:31, Ken Freeman wrote:

> - A 2.0.3b1 (BETA) version is expected this week that supports the  
> Entourage Sync Service synchronization. This update is does NOT  
> support Windows Mobile 5. Nor is it a universal binary for for the  
> new Intel Macs, however it runs fine on the new Intel Macs!

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From kfreeman at markspace.com  Thu Mar 16 23:45:56 2006
From: kfreeman at markspace.com (Ken Freeman)
Date: Thu Mar 16 23:46:08 2006
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] Information about the New Entourage
	Update
In-Reply-To: <4C7CB553-5AE1-47BB-8775-7DC9110A6709@imap4all.com>
References: <75E64E8A-69EC-4928-922F-AB9605DE4829@markspace.com>
	<4C7CB553-5AE1-47BB-8775-7DC9110A6709@imap4all.com>
Message-ID: <A8DEA786-C5C3-45F9-9D7B-0B3BDD089337@markspace.com>

Is what comes to mind is the riddle, "How do you eat an elephant?"

The answer is, "One bite at a time!" Or should I say, "One byte at a  
time!" (couldn't resist!)

So it is very much a technical reason as to why it is taking so long.  
That being, "This is hard!" The methods of connecting and  
communicating with Windows Mobile 5 devices changed drastically! The  
task is very complex. Keep in mind that this project is not like a  
typical software project, where the developer has defined API's,  
sample code, and various developer tools.

Hang in there!
Ken

On Mar 16, 2006, at 3:01 PM, Brendan Bank wrote:

> Hi Ken,
>
> With all due respect, and my apologies for all on this list who  
> take offence by bringing this up.
>
> Why are you not able to tell us what your release schedule is for  
> Windows Mobile 5 support? My take on this is that either there is a  
> technical issue, which MarkSpace is not able to resolve (but I  
> really doubt that!) or there is a non-technical issue in the way  
> aka Microsoft SDK license issues etc. Or is Microsoft planning to  
> support wm5 directly through ISYNC?
>
> I have used your product on my palm Treo650 ,Ipaq and tried to used  
> it on my Qtek9100 (ok I did not read the fine print well enough,  
> expecting you did support wm5). Manage my expectations! Or tell me  
> you will never be able to satisfy my desire. That?s fine too. I'm  
> in the software development business myself and telling my  
> customers I may be able to support them but I'm not sure when is  
> just not good enough. They expect reasonable release dates. And so  
> I'm I.
>
> With best regards,
>
> Brendan Bank
>
> On 15-mrt-2006, at 3:31, Ken Freeman wrote:
>
>> - A 2.0.3b1 (BETA) version is expected this week that supports the  
>> Entourage Sync Service synchronization. This update is does NOT  
>> support Windows Mobile 5. Nor is it a universal binary for for the  
>> new Intel Macs, however it runs fine on the new Intel Macs!
>
> _______________________________________________
> missing-sync-winmobile-talk mailing list
> missing-sync-winmobile-talk@lists.markspace.com
> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives  
> can be found at:
> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-winmobile- 
> talk


From support at sundry-solutions.com  Fri Mar 17 00:57:05 2006
From: support at sundry-solutions.com (Casey Hayes)
Date: Fri Mar 17 00:57:10 2006
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] Information about the New Entourage
	Update
In-Reply-To: <A8DEA786-C5C3-45F9-9D7B-0B3BDD089337@markspace.com>
References: <75E64E8A-69EC-4928-922F-AB9605DE4829@markspace.com>
	<4C7CB553-5AE1-47BB-8775-7DC9110A6709@imap4all.com>
	<A8DEA786-C5C3-45F9-9D7B-0B3BDD089337@markspace.com>
Message-ID: <F90744FD-1DBD-481C-AE27-F6C5502FC062@sundry-solutions.com>

Well said, Ken.

Although I am (im)patiently waiting for the s/w to be released, I  
realize nothing I can say or do can help you.  I don't think the  
question(s) were unwarranted, however, "hurry up and wait" seems  
appropriate.

Good luck!


On Mar 17, 2006, at 12:45 AM, Ken Freeman wrote:

> Is what comes to mind is the riddle, "How do you eat an elephant?"
>
> The answer is, "One bite at a time!" Or should I say, "One byte at  
> a time!" (couldn't resist!)
>
> So it is very much a technical reason as to why it is taking so  
> long. That being, "This is hard!" The methods of connecting and  
> communicating with Windows Mobile 5 devices changed drastically!  
> The task is very complex. Keep in mind that this project is not  
> like a typical software project, where the developer has defined  
> API's, sample code, and various developer tools.
>
> Hang in there!
> Ken
>
> On Mar 16, 2006, at 3:01 PM, Brendan Bank wrote:
>
>> Hi Ken,
>>
>> With all due respect, and my apologies for all on this list who  
>> take offence by bringing this up.
>>
>> Why are you not able to tell us what your release schedule is for  
>> Windows Mobile 5 support? My take on this is that either there is  
>> a technical issue, which MarkSpace is not able to resolve (but I  
>> really doubt that!) or there is a non-technical issue in the way  
>> aka Microsoft SDK license issues etc. Or is Microsoft planning to  
>> support wm5 directly through ISYNC?
>>
>> I have used your product on my palm Treo650 ,Ipaq and tried to  
>> used it on my Qtek9100 (ok I did not read the fine print well  
>> enough, expecting you did support wm5). Manage my expectations! Or  
>> tell me you will never be able to satisfy my desire. That?s fine  
>> too. I'm in the software development business myself and telling  
>> my customers I may be able to support them but I'm not sure when  
>> is just not good enough. They expect reasonable release dates. And  
>> so I'm I.
>>
>> With best regards,
>>
>> Brendan Bank
>>
>> On 15-mrt-2006, at 3:31, Ken Freeman wrote:
>>
>>> - A 2.0.3b1 (BETA) version is expected this week that supports  
>>> the Entourage Sync Service synchronization. This update is does  
>>> NOT support Windows Mobile 5. Nor is it a universal binary for  
>>> for the new Intel Macs, however it runs fine on the new Intel Macs!
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> missing-sync-winmobile-talk@lists.markspace.com
>> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives  
>> can be found at:
>> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-winmobile- 
>> talk
>
>
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From kfreeman at markspace.com  Fri Mar 17 08:38:47 2006
From: kfreeman at markspace.com (Ken Freeman)
Date: Fri Mar 17 08:38:59 2006
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] Information about the New Entourage
	Update
In-Reply-To: <C03D223D.1EDA1%neto@bullet.com.br>
References: <C03D223D.1EDA1%neto@bullet.com.br>
Message-ID: <142FB502-6719-48B7-95BE-53B1E84B8A34@markspace.com>

There is NO relation between the Microsoft Office update and our  
Windows Mobile 5 efforts.

Ken

On Mar 14, 2006, at 8:45 PM, Neto wrote:

> Ken,
>
> Can we expect this update from Microsoft to make faster for Mark/ 
> Space to
> deliver the so waited compatibility with Windows Mobile 5 or there  
> is no
> relation at all?
>
> (sorry those people that have a problem with questions regarding  
> MSWM5)
>
> Thanks
>
> n
>
> On 3/14/06 11:31 PM, "Ken Freeman" :
>
>> Microsoft released the Microsoft Office update version 11.2.3. This
>> update enables Entourage support for synchronizing with Apple's Sync
>> Services. We applaud Microsoft's joining the Sync Service band wagon!
>>
>> You can continue to use The Missing Sync to synchronize with
>> Entourage using the Entourage plugin that comes with the Missing
>> Sync. In fact, we are happy to report that Microsoft fixed some bugs
>> in the SDK that now allow birthdays and anniversaries to properly  
>> sync!
>>
>> However, we do NOT recommend using the Missing Sync for Windows
>> Mobile 2.0.2 release if you enable the Sync Services synchronization
>> in Entourage. There is a known problem handling Entourage created
>> calendar events. We are testing a Missing Sync for Windows Mobile
>> v2.0.3b1 (BETA) update and hope to release a beta this week that
>> resolves this problem. Address Book and Tasks seem to sync fine, but
>> you will get an error trying to sync calendar events.
>>
>> Summary!
>> - Microsoft released a Microsoft office Update v11.2.3 that adds Sync
>> Service support in Entourage
>> - The Entourage plugin in The Missing Sync for Windows Mobile v2.0.2
>> works fine with the updated Entourage. In fact Birthday's and
>> anniversaries now sync.
>> - Do NOT enable the Sync Service option in Entourage AND try to sync
>> with the Missing Sync iCal plugins. You will get an error and all of
>> your calendar items will NOT sync.
>> - A 2.0.3b1 (BETA) version is expected this week that supports the
>> Entourage Sync Service synchronization. This update is does NOT
>> support Windows Mobile 5. Nor is it a universal binary for for the
>> new Intel Macs, however it runs fine on the new Intel Macs!
>>
>> More tips and information about synchronizing with the new Entourage
>> update and the Missing Sync will follow, but we wanted to give you a
>> heads up and recommendation now.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Ken
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From flameflash at mac.com  Sat Mar 18 11:19:48 2006
From: flameflash at mac.com (FlameFlash)
Date: Sat Mar 18 11:19:55 2006
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] Information about the New Entourage
	Update
In-Reply-To: <F90744FD-1DBD-481C-AE27-F6C5502FC062@sundry-solutions.com>
References: <75E64E8A-69EC-4928-922F-AB9605DE4829@markspace.com>
	<4C7CB553-5AE1-47BB-8775-7DC9110A6709@imap4all.com>
	<A8DEA786-C5C3-45F9-9D7B-0B3BDD089337@markspace.com>
	<F90744FD-1DBD-481C-AE27-F6C5502FC062@sundry-solutions.com>
Message-ID: <441C5D54.9020701@mac.com>

Any chance we could get a Universal app in the interim?  Or is Win 
Mobile 5 support being added at the same time?

I'd just like to finally sync my Axim to my iMac instead of my old tower.

-FF

Casey Hayes wrote:
> Well said, Ken.
>
> Although I am (im)patiently waiting for the s/w to be released, I 
> realize nothing I can say or do can help you.  I don't think the 
> question(s) were unwarranted, however, "hurry up and wait" seems 
> appropriate.
>
> Good luck!
>
>
> On Mar 17, 2006, at 12:45 AM, Ken Freeman wrote:
>
>> Is what comes to mind is the riddle, "How do you eat an elephant?"
>>
>> The answer is, "One bite at a time!" Or should I say, "One byte at a 
>> time!" (couldn't resist!)
>>
>> So it is very much a technical reason as to why it is taking so long. 
>> That being, "This is hard!" The methods of connecting and 
>> communicating with Windows Mobile 5 devices changed drastically! The 
>> task is very complex. Keep in mind that this project is not like a 
>> typical software project, where the developer has defined API's, 
>> sample code, and various developer tools.
>>
>> Hang in there!
>> Ken
>>
>> On Mar 16, 2006, at 3:01 PM, Brendan Bank wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Ken,
>>>
>>> With all due respect, and my apologies for all on this list who take 
>>> offence by bringing this up.
>>>
>>> Why are you not able to tell us what your release schedule is for 
>>> Windows Mobile 5 support? My take on this is that either there is a 
>>> technical issue, which MarkSpace is not able to resolve (but I 
>>> really doubt that!) or there is a non-technical issue in the way aka 
>>> Microsoft SDK license issues etc. Or is Microsoft planning to 
>>> support wm5 directly through ISYNC?
>>>
>>> I have used your product on my palm Treo650 ,Ipaq and tried to used 
>>> it on my Qtek9100 (ok I did not read the fine print well enough, 
>>> expecting you did support wm5). Manage my expectations! Or tell me 
>>> you will never be able to satisfy my desire. That?s fine too. I'm in 
>>> the software development business myself and telling my customers I 
>>> may be able to support them but I'm not sure when is just not good 
>>> enough. They expect reasonable release dates. And so I'm I.
>>>
>>> With best regards,
>>>
>>> Brendan Bank
>>>
>>> On 15-mrt-2006, at 3:31, Ken Freeman wrote:
>>>
>>>> - A 2.0.3b1 (BETA) version is expected this week that supports the 
>>>> Entourage Sync Service synchronization. This update is does NOT 
>>>> support Windows Mobile 5. Nor is it a universal binary for for the 
>>>> new Intel Macs, however it runs fine on the new Intel Macs!
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> missing-sync-winmobile-talk mailing list
>>> missing-sync-winmobile-talk@lists.markspace.com
>>> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can 
>>> be found at:
>>> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-winmobile-talk
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> missing-sync-winmobile-talk@lists.markspace.com
>> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can 
>> be found at:
>> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-winmobile-talk
>>
>
>
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From royeire at usa.net  Sat Mar 18 15:16:01 2006
From: royeire at usa.net (roy mourad)
Date: Sat Mar 18 15:16:08 2006
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] (no subject)
Message-ID: <21CF5DF2-98E8-477D-9ED5-611F823F74F2@usa.net>



From kfreeman at markspace.com  Mon Mar 20 10:06:22 2006
From: kfreeman at markspace.com (Ken Freeman)
Date: Mon Mar 20 10:06:32 2006
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] Information about the New Entourage
	Update
In-Reply-To: <441C5D54.9020701@mac.com>
References: <75E64E8A-69EC-4928-922F-AB9605DE4829@markspace.com>
	<4C7CB553-5AE1-47BB-8775-7DC9110A6709@imap4all.com>
	<A8DEA786-C5C3-45F9-9D7B-0B3BDD089337@markspace.com>
	<F90744FD-1DBD-481C-AE27-F6C5502FC062@sundry-solutions.com>
	<441C5D54.9020701@mac.com>
Message-ID: <355B02E5-7814-424D-97BB-DD7210CDEBFC@markspace.com>

We are working on making the Windows Mobile 5 upgrade a Universal  
Binary app. Our priority is still Windows Mobile 5 support, but if we  
can deliver Universal Binary in the early public betas of the WM5  
upgrade, we will.

Ken

On Mar 18, 2006, at 11:19 AM, FlameFlash wrote:

> Any chance we could get a Universal app in the interim?  Or is Win  
> Mobile 5 support being added at the same time?
>
> I'd just like to finally sync my Axim to my iMac instead of my old  
> tower.
>
> -FF
>
> Casey Hayes wrote:
>> Well said, Ken.
>>
>> Although I am (im)patiently waiting for the s/w to be released, I  
>> realize nothing I can say or do can help you.  I don't think the  
>> question(s) were unwarranted, however, "hurry up and wait" seems  
>> appropriate.
>>
>> Good luck!
>>
>>
>> On Mar 17, 2006, at 12:45 AM, Ken Freeman wrote:
>>
>>> Is what comes to mind is the riddle, "How do you eat an elephant?"
>>>
>>> The answer is, "One bite at a time!" Or should I say, "One byte  
>>> at a time!" (couldn't resist!)
>>>
>>> So it is very much a technical reason as to why it is taking so  
>>> long. That being, "This is hard!" The methods of connecting and  
>>> communicating with Windows Mobile 5 devices changed drastically!  
>>> The task is very complex. Keep in mind that this project is not  
>>> like a typical software project, where the developer has defined  
>>> API's, sample code, and various developer tools.
>>>
>>> Hang in there!
>>> Ken
>>>
>>> On Mar 16, 2006, at 3:01 PM, Brendan Bank wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Ken,
>>>>
>>>> With all due respect, and my apologies for all on this list who  
>>>> take offence by bringing this up.
>>>>
>>>> Why are you not able to tell us what your release schedule is  
>>>> for Windows Mobile 5 support? My take on this is that either  
>>>> there is a technical issue, which MarkSpace is not able to  
>>>> resolve (but I really doubt that!) or there is a non-technical  
>>>> issue in the way aka Microsoft SDK license issues etc. Or is  
>>>> Microsoft planning to support wm5 directly through ISYNC?
>>>>
>>>> I have used your product on my palm Treo650 ,Ipaq and tried to  
>>>> used it on my Qtek9100 (ok I did not read the fine print well  
>>>> enough, expecting you did support wm5). Manage my expectations!  
>>>> Or tell me you will never be able to satisfy my desire. That?s  
>>>> fine too. I'm in the software development business myself and  
>>>> telling my customers I may be able to support them but I'm not  
>>>> sure when is just not good enough. They expect reasonable  
>>>> release dates. And so I'm I.
>>>>
>>>> With best regards,
>>>>
>>>> Brendan Bank
>>>>
>>>> On 15-mrt-2006, at 3:31, Ken Freeman wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> - A 2.0.3b1 (BETA) version is expected this week that supports  
>>>>> the Entourage Sync Service synchronization. This update is does  
>>>>> NOT support Windows Mobile 5. Nor is it a universal binary for  
>>>>> for the new Intel Macs, however it runs fine on the new Intel  
>>>>> Macs!
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> missing-sync-winmobile-talk mailing list
>>>> missing-sync-winmobile-talk@lists.markspace.com
>>>> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives  
>>>> can be found at:
>>>> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync- 
>>>> winmobile-talk
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> missing-sync-winmobile-talk@lists.markspace.com
>>> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives  
>>> can be found at:
>>> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync- 
>>> winmobile-talk
>>>
>>
>>
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>> talk
> _______________________________________________
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From bjem.schot at planet.nl  Mon Mar 20 12:49:07 2006
From: bjem.schot at planet.nl (Bealien Schot)
Date: Mon Mar 20 12:49:45 2006
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] Information about the New Entourage
	Update
In-Reply-To: <355B02E5-7814-424D-97BB-DD7210CDEBFC@markspace.com>
Message-ID: <C044D3D3.4D7%bjem.schot@planet.nl>

Ken,

I am reading all the mails with regard to WM 5 support. But i am getting
impatient i want to sync my PDA WM5 with MAC. But can you get a time frame
do we need to wait for an other three years, months, days. Untill now my
expectations are not managed. Give us a timeframe

Kind regards Bealien


Op 20-03-2006 19:06, Ken Freeman <kfreeman@markspace.com> schreef:

> We are working on making the Windows Mobile 5 upgrade a Universal
> Binary app. Our priority is still Windows Mobile 5 support, but if we
> can deliver Universal Binary in the early public betas of the WM5
> upgrade, we will.
> 
> Ken
> 
> On Mar 18, 2006, at 11:19 AM, FlameFlash wrote:
> 
>> Any chance we could get a Universal app in the interim?  Or is Win
>> Mobile 5 support being added at the same time?
>> 
>> I'd just like to finally sync my Axim to my iMac instead of my old
>> tower.
>> 
>> -FF
>> 
>> Casey Hayes wrote:
>>> Well said, Ken.
>>> 
>>> Although I am (im)patiently waiting for the s/w to be released, I
>>> realize nothing I can say or do can help you.  I don't think the
>>> question(s) were unwarranted, however, "hurry up and wait" seems
>>> appropriate.
>>> 
>>> Good luck!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mar 17, 2006, at 12:45 AM, Ken Freeman wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Is what comes to mind is the riddle, "How do you eat an elephant?"
>>>> 
>>>> The answer is, "One bite at a time!" Or should I say, "One byte
>>>> at a time!" (couldn't resist!)
>>>> 
>>>> So it is very much a technical reason as to why it is taking so
>>>> long. That being, "This is hard!" The methods of connecting and
>>>> communicating with Windows Mobile 5 devices changed drastically!
>>>> The task is very complex. Keep in mind that this project is not
>>>> like a typical software project, where the developer has defined
>>>> API's, sample code, and various developer tools.
>>>> 
>>>> Hang in there!
>>>> Ken
>>>> 
>>>> On Mar 16, 2006, at 3:01 PM, Brendan Bank wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Ken,
>>>>> 
>>>>> With all due respect, and my apologies for all on this list who
>>>>> take offence by bringing this up.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Why are you not able to tell us what your release schedule is
>>>>> for Windows Mobile 5 support? My take on this is that either
>>>>> there is a technical issue, which MarkSpace is not able to
>>>>> resolve (but I really doubt that!) or there is a non-technical
>>>>> issue in the way aka Microsoft SDK license issues etc. Or is
>>>>> Microsoft planning to support wm5 directly through ISYNC?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have used your product on my palm Treo650 ,Ipaq and tried to
>>>>> used it on my Qtek9100 (ok I did not read the fine print well
>>>>> enough, expecting you did support wm5). Manage my expectations!
>>>>> Or tell me you will never be able to satisfy my desire. That?s
>>>>> fine too. I'm in the software development business myself and
>>>>> telling my customers I may be able to support them but I'm not
>>>>> sure when is just not good enough. They expect reasonable
>>>>> release dates. And so I'm I.
>>>>> 
>>>>> With best regards,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Brendan Bank
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 15-mrt-2006, at 3:31, Ken Freeman wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> - A 2.0.3b1 (BETA) version is expected this week that supports
>>>>>> the Entourage Sync Service synchronization. This update is does
>>>>>> NOT support Windows Mobile 5. Nor is it a universal binary for
>>>>>> for the new Intel Macs, however it runs fine on the new Intel
>>>>>> Macs!
>>>>> 
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> missing-sync-winmobile-talk mailing list
>>>>> missing-sync-winmobile-talk@lists.markspace.com
>>>>> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives
>>>>> can be found at:
>>>>> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-
>>>>> winmobile-talk
>>>> 
>>>> 
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>>>> can be found at:
>>>> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-
>>>> winmobile-talk
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> talk
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> 
> 
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-- 




From chris at csynt.net  Mon Mar 20 13:02:01 2006
From: chris at csynt.net (Chris Syntichakis)
Date: Mon Mar 20 13:02:09 2006
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] Information about the New Entourage
	Update
In-Reply-To: <C044D3D3.4D7%bjem.schot@planet.nl>
References: <C044D3D3.4D7%bjem.schot@planet.nl>
Message-ID: <3E4C73C7-5DFE-451D-82C8-5430BBAC95F8@csynt.net>

> impatient i want to sync my PDA WM5 with MAC. But can you get a  
> time frame
> do we need to wait for an other three years, months, days. Untill  
> now my

3 years .. ?!!?

in the mean time ... (who knows)..
maybe the M$ will decide to release a native ActiveSync for the  
macintels.... ;-)

From mallard01 at earthlink.net  Mon Mar 20 13:07:53 2006
From: mallard01 at earthlink.net (William M. Blackie III)
Date: Mon Mar 20 13:07:57 2006
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] Syncing with Entourage
Message-ID: <C04483D9.342A%mallard01@earthlink.net>

I am still unable to get my calendar and tasks from Entourage to sync with
my Toshiba e800. I have had the program since the rele3ase of 2.0 and have
only been able to sync the contacts.

For now I have to sync my Palm to my Mac the PC to my Palm and then the
Toshiba to the PC. That is just too much work to have to do.

I have hard reset the PPC numerous times and nothing seems to work. Any
assistance would be appreciated.

Bill Blackie


From justinlarsen at mac.com  Mon Mar 20 13:24:59 2006
From: justinlarsen at mac.com (Justin Larsen)
Date: Mon Mar 20 13:25:09 2006
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] Information about the New Entourage
	Update
In-Reply-To: <3E4C73C7-5DFE-451D-82C8-5430BBAC95F8@csynt.net>
References: <C044D3D3.4D7%bjem.schot@planet.nl>
	<3E4C73C7-5DFE-451D-82C8-5430BBAC95F8@csynt.net>
Message-ID: <39EC35D7-A73A-4D73-8213-D9797FC6C15B@mac.com>

just install xp on your intel mac, and switch over to osx when ken  
and team get it finished.  I am sure everyone including markspace  
would love to know a time frame for wm5 support.  If they knew you  
would be the first to know.

On Mar 20, 2006, at 1:02 PM, Chris Syntichakis wrote:

>> impatient i want to sync my PDA WM5 with MAC. But can you get a  
>> time frame
>> do we need to wait for an other three years, months, days. Untill  
>> now my
>
> 3 years .. ?!!?
>
> in the mean time ... (who knows)..
> maybe the M$ will decide to release a native ActiveSync for the  
> macintels.... ;-)
>
> _______________________________________________
> missing-sync-winmobile-talk mailing list
> missing-sync-winmobile-talk@lists.markspace.com
> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives  
> can be found at:
> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-winmobile- 
> talk

From sstrippoli at mac.com  Tue Mar 21 01:58:01 2006
From: sstrippoli at mac.com (sabino strippoli)
Date: Tue Mar 21 01:58:27 2006
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] SYNC PROTOCOLS
In-Reply-To: <3154866.1142525972377.JavaMail.sstrippoli@mac.com>
Message-ID: <C0453859.6D8A%sstrippoli@mac.com>


dear markspace (and MSWM list members) -

The message below was initially submitted last Thursday.
I candidly, stated my lack of clarity or knowledge.
Still it seemed to me, the questions or issues raised were
 not frivolous but reasonable and thought-out.

My apologies for re-posting the message, however, for some
   reason it was overlooked and never answered.
The questions posed are important for me to understand
   if I am to use MSWM more productively and confidently.

Thank you in advance, to anyone  willing to help and clearly explain
  the protocol or process MSWM follows in the sync situations below.

 sabino strippoli

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

on 3/16/06 11:19 AM,  sstrippoli@mac.com wrote:

 Dear Ken  and/or  markspace staff --

It came to my attention in corresponding with others,
  that there is some general confusion or lack of understanding
  re: exactly how the different Sync options function.

please help me (and others) better understand the protocol & process that
Missing Sync Windows Mobile (MSWM) follows with different sync options or
choices.

1)
If one selects  Entourage Overwrites Device,
   does Missing Sync check to see just which (if any) records are changed ?
  1a.--
   And if so, does it then change ONLY the records that are new or changed ?
  1b.--
   Or,  does it just write  ALL records  over again, regardless ?


2)
If one selects  Synchronize,
   does Missing Sync check to see just which (if any) records are changed ?
  AND  is a  Sync  FIELD-specific ?
  2a.--
 If so, does MSWM change just records that are new or changed on each end
    Or,  does it just write  ALL records  over again, regardless  ?
  2b.--
   When MSWM is set to Synchronize, is this sync FIELD-specific?
   Specifically, in writing records, does this sync write to ONLY the fields
that are 
   changed  in a record  or  does it write the ENTIRE record over (all
fields regardless).
  2c.--
   in cases where a specific record has changes to fields A, B & C on the
desktop
    AND 
    the same record has changes to fields X,Y & Z on the handheld,
   How does MSWM2 handle synchronizing this ?

    - do BOTH desktop & device update to the new info in all Fields  A, B,
C, X, Y, & Z
    - does the data on one side (desktop or device) take precedence  and
        changed data on the other get discarded or lost,
    - does MSWM 2  duplicate the records on both sides in this case,
    - is there some other outcome ???

3)
lastly, how do the Sync choices affect or impact the amount of time required
   for one type of sync over the other ?


Please reply "on-list" rather than to me personally so we can all benefit.
In responding, please try to address & clarify each case or issue.


Thank you in advance for your patience and assistance in helping
    to teach us to better use your product.

  sstrippoli
.
.
.

From WyattG at saccounty.net  Tue Mar 21 08:53:23 2006
From: WyattG at saccounty.net (Wyatt. Greg)
Date: Tue Mar 21 08:53:20 2006
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] SYNC PROTOCOLS
In-Reply-To: <C0453859.6D8A%sstrippoli@mac.com>
Message-ID: <C0456F83.4DA%WyattG@saccounty.net>

Sorry Sabino, I am new to Mac and have (as you) very limited knowledge of
missing sync.  I think your questions are fantastic and hopefully they will
be answered by someone in the know.


On 3/21/06 1:58 AM, "sabino strippoli" <sstrippoli@mac.com> wrote:

> 
> dear markspace (and MSWM list members) -
> 
> The message below was initially submitted last Thursday.
> I candidly, stated my lack of clarity or knowledge.
> Still it seemed to me, the questions or issues raised were
>  not frivolous but reasonable and thought-out.
> 
> My apologies for re-posting the message, however, for some
>    reason it was overlooked and never answered.
> The questions posed are important for me to understand
>    if I am to use MSWM more productively and confidently.
> 
> Thank you in advance, to anyone  willing to help and clearly explain
>   the protocol or process MSWM follows in the sync situations below.
> 
>  sabino strippoli
> 
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> 
> on 3/16/06 11:19 AM,  sstrippoli@mac.com wrote:
> 
>  Dear Ken  and/or  markspace staff --
> 
> It came to my attention in corresponding with others,
>   that there is some general confusion or lack of understanding
>   re: exactly how the different Sync options function.
> 
> please help me (and others) better understand the protocol & process that
> Missing Sync Windows Mobile (MSWM) follows with different sync options or
> choices.
> 
> 1)
> If one selects  Entourage Overwrites Device,
>    does Missing Sync check to see just which (if any) records are changed ?
>   1a.--
>    And if so, does it then change ONLY the records that are new or changed ?
>   1b.--
>    Or,  does it just write  ALL records  over again, regardless ?
> 
> 
> 2)
> If one selects  Synchronize,
>    does Missing Sync check to see just which (if any) records are changed ?
>   AND  is a  Sync  FIELD-specific ?
>   2a.--
>  If so, does MSWM change just records that are new or changed on each end
>     Or,  does it just write  ALL records  over again, regardless  ?
>   2b.--
>    When MSWM is set to Synchronize, is this sync FIELD-specific?
>    Specifically, in writing records, does this sync write to ONLY the fields
> that are 
>    changed  in a record  or  does it write the ENTIRE record over (all
> fields regardless).
>   2c.--
>    in cases where a specific record has changes to fields A, B & C on the
> desktop
>     AND 
>     the same record has changes to fields X,Y & Z on the handheld,
>    How does MSWM2 handle synchronizing this ?
> 
>     - do BOTH desktop & device update to the new info in all Fields  A, B,
> C, X, Y, & Z
>     - does the data on one side (desktop or device) take precedence  and
>         changed data on the other get discarded or lost,
>     - does MSWM 2  duplicate the records on both sides in this case,
>     - is there some other outcome ???
> 
> 3)
> lastly, how do the Sync choices affect or impact the amount of time required
>    for one type of sync over the other ?
> 
> 
> Please reply "on-list" rather than to me personally so we can all benefit.
> In responding, please try to address & clarify each case or issue.
> 
> 
> Thank you in advance for your patience and assistance in helping
>     to teach us to better use your product.
> 
>   sstrippoli
> .
> .
> .
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> missing-sync-winmobile-talk@lists.markspace.com
> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found
> at:
> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-winmobile-talk
From kfreeman at markspace.com  Tue Mar 21 09:35:01 2006
From: kfreeman at markspace.com (Ken Freeman)
Date: Tue Mar 21 09:35:13 2006
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] Re: [MS-WinMobile-talk] SYNC
	PROTOCOLS
In-Reply-To: <DA8B03C0-A6BB-46E5-9795-98CC56818614@markspace.com>
References: <380-22006321473241485@M2W078.mail2web.com>
	<D80D9164-16F1-4E66-9A07-7A1C85DDAECF@markspace.com>
	<3154866.1142525972377.JavaMail.sstrippoli@mac.com>
	<DA8B03C0-A6BB-46E5-9795-98CC56818614@markspace.com>
Message-ID: <2AD8EFB8-8803-4539-86C3-1952EF065C9B@markspace.com>

I apologize for the delay. I was double-checking my answers with our  
engineers and the reply was left in my drafts folder. Doh!

See below for the answers to your questions...

Ken

On Mar 17, 2006, at 8:38 AM, Ken Freeman wrote:

> On Mar 16, 2006, at 8:19 AM, s.strippoli wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Dear Ken  and/or  markspace staff -
>>
>>
>> It came to my attention through correspondence with others as well  
>> as myself,
>>    that there is some general confusion or lack of understanding  
>> re: exactly how
>>    the different Sync options function.
>>
>> please help me (and others) to better understand the protocol &  
>> process that
>> Missing Sync Windows Mobile (MSWM) follows with different sync  
>> options or choices.
>
> Great questions! I'll try to better explain each one below.
>
>>
>> 1)
>> If one selects  Entourage Overwrites Device,
>>  does Missing Sync check to see just which (if any) records are  
>> changed ?
>> a.--
>>    If so, does it then change ONLY the records that are new or  
>> changed ?
>> b.--
>>    Or does it blindly just write ALL records over again, regardless ?
>
> If you choose 'Entourage Overwrites Device' ALL records on the  
> device will be replaced with the Entourage records.
>
>>
>>
>> 2)
>> If one selects  Synchronize,
>>  does Missing Sync check to see just which (if any) records are  
>> changed ?
>
> Yes, we only sync changed records when you choose 'Synchronize."
>
>>   And is the sync FIELD specific ?
>> a.--
>>   If so, does it then change just the records that are new or  
>> changed on each end ?
>
> Yes to both.
>
>> b.--
>>    in writing records, does this sync write to ONLY the fields  
>> that are changed  or
>>     does it write the ENTIRE record over again (all fields  
>> regardless).
>
> We only replace the fields as needed.
>
>> c.--
>>    in cases where a specific record has a change to fields A, B &  
>> C on desktop
>>     AND to fields X,Y & Z on device,  how does MSWM 2 handle  
>> synchronizing this ?
>>       - do BOTH desktop & device update to the new info in A, B,  
>> C, X, Y, & Z
>
> This depends on whether you are synching with the 'iCal' and  
> 'Address Book' plugins or the 'Entourage' plugin. With iCal and  
> Address Book, the Apple Sync Services Conflict Resolver should  
> compare fields and merge the data as needed. If there is a conflict  
> (e.g. change to the same field) you will get the Conflict Resolver  
> dialog
>
> If you are using the Entourage plugin and you change the same  
> record on both the Mac and handheld, a duplicate will be created.
>
>>       - does one side (desktop or device) take precedence and  
>> change in other get lost
>>       - does MSWM 2  write duplicate records in this case
>
> You would get a duplicate record if you change the same field to  
> something different on both the Mac and device. So if you change A,  
> B & C on the desktop and A, X, Y, & Z on the device, you would get  
> a duplicate of that record.
>
>>       - is there some other outcome ???
>>
>> 3)
>> lastly, how do the Sync choices affect or impact the amount of  
>> time required
>>    for one type of sync over the other ?
>
> The Synchronize option is the fastest, as it is only going to sync  
> changed records. The other options force a slow sync that causes  
> the software to compare every record, which takes much longer.
>
> Ken
>
>>
>>
>>
>> Please reply "on-list" rather than to me personally so we can all  
>> benefit.
>> In responding, please try to address & clarify each case or issue.
>>
>>
>> Thank you in advance for your patience and assistance in helping
>>     to teach us to better use your product.
>>
>>   sstrippoli
>> .
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From sstrippoli at mac.com  Tue Mar 21 12:20:17 2006
From: sstrippoli at mac.com (sabino strippoli)
Date: Tue Mar 21 12:20:38 2006
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] Re: SYNC PROTOCOLS
In-Reply-To: <2AD8EFB8-8803-4539-86C3-1952EF065C9B@markspace.com>
Message-ID: <C045CA31.6DA6%sstrippoli@mac.com>


on 3/21/06 12:35 PM,  kfreeman@markspace.com wrote:
> I apologize for the delay. I was double-checking my answers with our
>     engineers and the reply was left in my drafts folder.    Doh!
> See below for the answers to your questions...
> 
>      Ken

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Ken -

 well, . . . .
      your checking with the ?engineers?  & subsequent reply was worth the
wait.  
 you covered the important points, as well as some variables I didn?t think
of.

  I THINK I now ?grogg? about 90% of the relevant user-information regarding
     the various combinations  for handheld  Sync & data transfers with
MSWM2.

  Nonetheless, to be doubly-sure I understood correctly,  with your
indulgence,
     I would like to submit a brief follow-up   to have you eithe