[missing-sync-winmobile-talk] Re: missing-sync-winmobile-talk Digest, Vol 36, Issue 14

[AL Grant]

Jonathan,

It was never my intention to single anyone out. I do understand those who
are waiting on a release of WM5 MS software. My point is by now it has the
tone of if we voice our displeasure loud enough and long enough we willl as
a collective body force MS to give us a date whether they have that
information or not.

My point is whether we agree with they way they do business or not it is
their company to run the way they see fit.

If it were my company hopefully I would run it differently. By now I think
it is apparent that MS is not even close to getting their software to work
on the very first PDA or phone. It sounds to me from the tone of the people
involved with MS that we will be lucky if we see the first beta release by
the end of Spring.

If I have insulted anyone then I respectfully apologize.

AL


On 1/18/06 8:42 PM, "Jonathan Greenberg" <lejongleur at earthlink.net> wrote:

> Well, Al, on behalf of the "belly aching" wing of  this discussion
> group, I for one would like to say that, despite Ed's unique -- albeit
> offensive to some -- choice of wording, I think he makes an excellent
> point, and I agree with him fully.  By announcing prominently on their
> Web site that "Windows Mobile 5.0 devices ... will be supported with a
> free update", Mark/Space is most certainly intimating that a WM5 release
> is forthcoming.  To not expect an angry reaction from their customer
> base, when repeated requests for a general release time frame are all
> but ignored, is entirely unrealistic.
> 
> I must also point out that, to the best of my understanding, this list
> exists to discuss Mark/Space and their Missing Sync for Windows Mobile
> product, as well as to occasionally offer assistance to others when
> those of us who wish to do so are able.  Denigrating the opinions and
> integrity of other members, however, is a whole other matter.  It goes
> against the intent of those who sponsor this list as well as, I suspect,
> that of its participants.  With this in mind, perhaps you'd be
> thoughtful enough to refrain from such irrelevant dialog in the future.
> Ed is entitled to express his opinions here as are we all, and putting
> him down because you disagree with him does precious little to benefit
> anyone.
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* AL Grant <agrant at runbox.com>
> *To:* The Missing Sync for Windows Mobile Discussion List
> <missing-sync-winmobile-talk at lists.markspace.com>
> *Sent:* Mon, Jan 16, 2006 8:46:32 pm
> *Subject:* [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] Re: missing-sync-winmobile-talk
> Digest, Vol 36, Issue 14
> 
> 
> 
>> I'm am really getting tired of all of the belly aching over WM5.
>> What most of you seem to not recognize is that "soon" is relative. To one
>> person soon might mean 1 week to the next person soon might mean 5 years.
>> Since none of us own the company of MS we can only wait and see what soon
>> means to the ones who own the company.
>> 
>> If a better product comes along in the meantime then try it out. However it
>> is certain that no other product has functionality for WM5 yet or most of
>> you would quit belly aching.
>>  
>> 
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> 
>> From: "Ed ." <eyf007 at gmail.com>
>> Reply-To: The Missing Sync for Windows Mobile Discussion List
>> <missing-sync-winmobile-talk at lists.markspace.com>
>> Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 17:38:17 -0600
>> To: <missing-sync-winmobile-talk at lists.markspace.com>
>> Conversation: missing-sync-winmobile-talk Digest, Vol 36, Issue 14
>> Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] Re: missing-sync-winmobile-talk
>> Digest,
>> Vol 36, Issue 14
>> 
>> You would think that soon would be in the coming year or 6 months. The crap
>> they took for coming out with the last one was because when you hype
>> something up and you under produce, you tend to get crap. Yeah, granted WM5
>> is completely different and the original method of syncing is gone [I know
>> this stuff I've been looking into it for a long time and MS seemed to most
>> promising], I still think it is still very unfair to call it soon, when oh
>> say, you don't even know when you're going have it, or there's no beta, or
>> you probably have just about nil. When a doctor tells you that you've
>> contracted a terminal illness, and you're going to die soon, you'd probably
>> like to know when. This may not be as serious as that, but I still think
>> when you make a claim, you should at least have something substantial or
>> else you get bs flying around [sounds like the US patent system]. And no
>> need to drop an f' bomb. Perhaps you're right and if you are, I'm sorry. But
>> I think there is a perfectly valid place for that, because usually, when
>> people get raped, they yell rape. When there's a fire, they yell fire. So
>> natural response, when I got f'ed. I'm gonna say it =D. If you're willing to
>> continue this attempt to lecture me, feel free to email me personally
>> instead of the whole list, I would rather not spam everyone. I do have
>> manners/class, and when I use those words I have good reason.
>>  
>> 
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