From lists at southernohio.net  Sat Oct  1 07:21:13 2005
From: lists at southernohio.net (lists@southernohio.net)
Date: Sat Oct  1 07:21:57 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] Windows Mobile 5.0
In-Reply-To: <BF616401.F33A%kfreeman@markspace.com>
References: <BF616401.F33A%kfreeman@markspace.com>
Message-ID: <61FE9643-75D1-428F-95E2-A80558778E77@southernohio.net>

Good to hear Ken, hopefully we'll see a quick release as I'm  
certainly anxiously waiting for some stability enhancements found in  
WM5.

-George


On Sep 29, 2005, at 12:27 PM, Ken Freeman wrote:

I can't give you a date estimate at this time. I can say that we want to
offer it ASAP and are working hard to do so. We have Windows Mobile 5
devices and are working with all the right partners to add support.  
There
are significant changes on how to communicate with the device.

Ken

On 9/29/05 12:07 AM, "Justin Morgan - Logic Sector"
<jmorgan@logicsector.com> wrote:


> Is there an estimated date for the arrival of Windows Mobile 5.0
> support?  October?  December?  Sometime in 2006?
>
> My Dell Axim X51v just arrived with Windows Mobile 5.0, and I'd like
> to hook it up to my Mac Mini (otherwise it's back to using ActiveSync
> on my PC, ugh...)
>
> Thanks for any info,
>
> Justin
>
>
>
>> We will announce on this list when Windows Mobile 5 support is
>> available. This will be a free update for 2.0.x users. A beta
>> version will likely be available.
>>
>> Ken
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>
>>> From: "e27669451"<ff at swarc.de>
>>> Sent: 9/27/05 7:38:01 AM
>>> To: "missing-sync-winmobile-talk at
>>>
>> lists.markspace.com"<missing-sync-winmobile-talk at
>> lists.markspace.com>
>>
>>> Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] Windows Mobile 5.0
>>> When will MissingSync approximately support Windows Mobile 5.0?
>>>
>>> Are there already beta versions supporting Windows Mobile 5.0?
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Florian
>>>
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From markbatey at gmail.com  Sun Oct  2 11:35:40 2005
From: markbatey at gmail.com (Mark Batey)
Date: Sun Oct  2 11:37:14 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] Getting there i think...
Message-ID: <40440532-C262-436D-BC42-D1FBE1E26FB0@gmail.com>

Hi,

I think we're making progress with this software - well done guys.

I've made most of m/s work. i did this by chucking out my old  
calendar from both machines, and starting again with a brand new one  
generated in iCal. That now syncs properly. ( I'm using beta version  
5 ).

And deleting the calendar on the mac, and syncing from the contacts  
on the ppc to the mac gives me an address book that can now be edited  
on either machine fairly consistently.

Only one problem. I get a bunch of error messages during the address  
book sync that seem to relate to contacts that are in a group on the  
mac. I have only one group set up - the limited set of phone numbers  
that I copy onto my mobile phone ( not using iSync, which doesn't  
support my nokia, well done Apple... but that's a different moan).  
Each of the contacts in the "phone" group seem to generate an error  
message that typically looks like

10/2/05 19:10:25  MSUI:  Address Book: Error writing record for  
contact: Jim Knight / (null).

Any explanations for this?

Best wishes...


___________________
Mark Batey
markbatey@gmail.com
07811 255941
0191 281 0110

From andreas at pardeike.net  Sun Oct  2 23:57:47 2005
From: andreas at pardeike.net (Andreas Pardeike)
Date: Sun Oct  2 23:58:06 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] NSInvalidArgumentException "you can't
	change the local id..."
Message-ID: <8CE47DFF-3F7C-4314-AEC8-CB5D04C228AD@pardeike.net>

What could the following mean (v2.0.2b5):

> 10/3/05 08:40:57  MSUI:  iCal: NSInvalidArgumentException  
> [ISDRecordIdMapper replaceLocalId:withLocalId:]: you can't change  
> the local id com.apple.syncservices:F33334B1-ADFE-4E26- 
> B2E5-31E45F27BC52 -> com.markspace.msppc.event_calendar_PocketMac:  
> both the new and old ids are already mapped to global ids

It happens when syncing via BT and when the iCal plugin is active.

Andreas
From kfreeman at markspace.com  Mon Oct  3 10:19:23 2005
From: kfreeman at markspace.com (Ken Freeman)
Date: Mon Oct  3 10:19:26 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] Getting there i think...
In-Reply-To: <40440532-C262-436D-BC42-D1FBE1E26FB0@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BF66B62B.F4EB%kfreeman@markspace.com>

Mark, are you using Panther (Mac OS X 10.3.x) or Tiger (10.4.x)?

Are any of these contacts marked as companies in Address Book on the Mac,
yet don't have anything in the company field?

If you can send to support
<http://www.markspace.com/support/request_windowsmobile.html> or to
beta@markspac.com some sample data for us to try and duplicate the problem
in house, that would be helpful. You can export that group as a vCard or
make a backup from the File menu in Address Book.

Ken


On 10/2/05 11:35 AM, "Mark Batey" <markbatey@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I think we're making progress with this software - well done guys.
> 
> I've made most of m/s work. i did this by chucking out my old
> calendar from both machines, and starting again with a brand new one
> generated in iCal. That now syncs properly. ( I'm using beta version
> 5 ).
> 
> And deleting the calendar on the mac, and syncing from the contacts
> on the ppc to the mac gives me an address book that can now be edited
> on either machine fairly consistently.
> 
> Only one problem. I get a bunch of error messages during the address
> book sync that seem to relate to contacts that are in a group on the
> mac. I have only one group set up - the limited set of phone numbers
> that I copy onto my mobile phone ( not using iSync, which doesn't
> support my nokia, well done Apple... but that's a different moan).
> Each of the contacts in the "phone" group seem to generate an error
> message that typically looks like
> 
> 10/2/05 19:10:25  MSUI:  Address Book: Error writing record for
> contact: Jim Knight / (null).
> 
> Any explanations for this?
> 
> Best wishes...
> 
> 
> ___________________
> Mark Batey
> markbatey@gmail.com
> 07811 255941
> 0191 281 0110
> 
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From unxmully at mac.com  Sat Oct  1 12:50:53 2005
From: unxmully at mac.com (Andy Mulhearn)
Date: Mon Oct  3 10:46:01 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] Log Oddity
Message-ID: <2A1C9EE2-2056-464F-B792-3F560FCA58D9@mac.com>

I've just noticed in my console logs that the Mark Space log is not  
localised properly - it seems to be ignoring my localisation and  
using US date formats.

Is this possibly an issue for usage?

Andy
From dkoziol at markspace.com  Mon Oct  3 10:56:00 2005
From: dkoziol at markspace.com (Dave Koziol)
Date: Mon Oct  3 10:56:02 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] Log Oddity
In-Reply-To: <2A1C9EE2-2056-464F-B792-3F560FCA58D9@mac.com>
References: <2A1C9EE2-2056-464F-B792-3F560FCA58D9@mac.com>
Message-ID: <d740da1cca6a05c24a50a11bd3416609@markspace.com>

On Oct 1, 2005, at 3:50 PM, Andy Mulhearn wrote:

> I've just noticed in my console logs that the Mark Space log is not 
> localised properly - it seems to be ignoring my localisation and using 
> US date formats.
>
> Is this possibly an issue for usage?

Can you send us a particular example or set of examples that you are 
seeing?

We try hard to make sure things are localized properly, but sometimes 
things slip through. I wouldn't expect this to cause any problems, but 
more details would help.

Dave Koziol
Mark/Space, Inc.

From unxmully at mac.com  Mon Oct  3 11:18:37 2005
From: unxmully at mac.com (Andy Mulhearn)
Date: Mon Oct  3 11:18:40 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] Log Oddity
In-Reply-To: <d740da1cca6a05c24a50a11bd3416609@markspace.com>
References: <2A1C9EE2-2056-464F-B792-3F560FCA58D9@mac.com>
	<d740da1cca6a05c24a50a11bd3416609@markspace.com>
Message-ID: <0163D03E-1EB4-424C-AACD-5858AE3DFD17@mac.com>


On 3 Oct 2005, at 18:56, Dave Koziol wrote:

> On Oct 1, 2005, at 3:50 PM, Andy Mulhearn wrote:
>
>
>> I've just noticed in my console logs that the Mark Space log is  
>> not localised properly - it seems to be ignoring my localisation  
>> and using US date formats.
>>
>> Is this possibly an issue for usage?
>>
>
> Can you send us a particular example or set of examples that you  
> are seeing?
>
> We try hard to make sure things are localized properly, but  
> sometimes things slip through. I wouldn't expect this to cause any  
> problems, but more details would help.
>

A connection from yesterday:

10/1/05 16:02:21  Monitor:  Starting Monitor 2.0.1 (101) on Mac OS X  
10.4.2
10/1/05 16:07:45  Monitor:  usb: USB Device was not accepted. USB  
Connections are turned off.
10/1/05 16:08:48  Listener:  Device Connecting: name "Imhotep" class  
"PocketPC" hw "HP iPAQ hx4700"
10/1/05 16:08:48  Listener:  owner "Andy Mulhearn" ip "192.168.206.206"
10/1/05 16:10:04  MSUI:  Address Book: Locked com.markspace.syncservices
10/1/05 16:10:04  MSUI:  Address Book: Locked AddressBook
10/1/05 16:10:04  MSUI:  iCal: Waiting for lock:  
com.markspace.syncservices
10/1/05 16:10:08  MSUI:  Address Book: Refresh sync required.
10/1/05 16:10:52  MSUI:  Address Book: Closed sync session.
10/1/05 16:10:52  MSUI:  Address Book: completePIMUpload called.
10/1/05 16:10:52  MSUI:  Address Book: Unlocked AddressBook
10/1/05 16:10:52  MSUI:  Address Book: Unlocked  
com.markspace.syncservices
10/1/05 16:10:52  MSUI:  iCal: Locked com.markspace.syncservices
10/1/05 16:10:52  MSUI:  iCal: Locked Calendar
10/1/05 16:10:52  MSUI:  iCal: Locked Tasks
10/1/05 16:10:57  MSUI:  iCal: Refresh sync required.
10/1/05 16:11:06  MSUI:  iCal: Closed sync session.
10/1/05 16:11:06  MSUI:  iCal: completePIMUpload called.
10/1/05 16:11:10  MSUI:  iCal: Refresh sync required.
10/1/05 16:11:17  MSUI:  iCal: Closed sync session.
10/1/05 16:11:17  MSUI:  iCal: completePIMUpload called.
10/1/05 16:11:17  MSUI:  iCal: Unlocked Calendar
10/1/05 16:11:17  MSUI:  iCal: Unlocked Tasks
10/1/05 16:11:17  MSUI:  iCal: Unlocked com.markspace.syncservices
10/1/05 16:14:26  Listener:  Device Connecting: name "Imhotep" class  
"PocketPC" hw "HP iPAQ hx4700"
10/1/05 16:14:26  Listener:  owner "Andy Mulhearn" ip "192.168.206.206"

Andy
From kfreeman at markspace.com  Mon Oct  3 12:38:07 2005
From: kfreeman at markspace.com (Ken Freeman)
Date: Mon Oct  3 12:38:11 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] NSInvalidArgumentException "you
	can't change the local id..."
In-Reply-To: <8CE47DFF-3F7C-4314-AEC8-CB5D04C228AD@pardeike.net>
Message-ID: <BF66D6AF.F516%kfreeman@markspace.com>

Do you NOT get this error if you sync via USB?

Do you have two iCal calendars with the same name? If so, you need to delete
one of the duplicate calendars.

If you don't have a duplicate calendar, download the MSSyncUtility at
www.markspace.com/testing and use it to unregister the Calendar client.
Instructions for using the MSSyncUtility are also at
www.markspace.com/testing.

Ken


On 10/2/05 11:57 PM, "Andreas Pardeike" <andreas@pardeike.net> wrote:

> What could the following mean (v2.0.2b5):
> 
>> 10/3/05 08:40:57  MSUI:  iCal: NSInvalidArgumentException
>> [ISDRecordIdMapper replaceLocalId:withLocalId:]: you can't change
>> the local id com.apple.syncservices:F33334B1-ADFE-4E26-
>> B2E5-31E45F27BC52 -> com.markspace.msppc.event_calendar_PocketMac:
>> both the new and old ids are already mapped to global ids
> 
> It happens when syncing via BT and when the iCal plugin is active.
> 
> Andreas
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From andreas at pardeike.net  Mon Oct  3 12:53:06 2005
From: andreas at pardeike.net (Andreas Pardeike)
Date: Mon Oct  3 12:53:20 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] NSInvalidArgumentException "you
	can't change the local id..."
In-Reply-To: <BF66D6AF.F516%kfreeman@markspace.com>
References: <BF66D6AF.F516%kfreeman@markspace.com>
Message-ID: <CFA99E67-0511-48BC-9094-62BAFD79C80D@pardeike.net>

On 3 okt 2005, at 21.38, Ken Freeman wrote:

> Do you NOT get this error if you sync via USB?

Sorry, yes I *do* get the same error via USB. I just sent the email
before I tested further.

> Do you have two iCal calendars with the same name? If so, you need  
> to delete
> one of the duplicate calendars.

Grrrr. I didn't - until I installed that crap of PocketMac. Now I have
two "PocketMac" calenders. Both gone, problem gone. Thanks!

Holly crap. I write software too and I didn't see such a crappy product
since quite a while.

Greetings from Sweden,
Andreas
From richard at calusari.com  Mon Oct  3 15:26:26 2005
From: richard at calusari.com (Richard Peat)
Date: Mon Oct  3 15:26:39 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] Beta 5 - Better, but still problems
In-Reply-To: <200510031915.j93JFLAx024588@sparrow.markspace.com>
References: <200510031915.j93JFLAx024588@sparrow.markspace.com>
Message-ID: <A007631E-17E2-4B1E-9F9D-4CD6ACC22342@calusari.com>

I've given Beta 5 a pretty good run round tonight. The calendar sync  
is better, but still not right.

Firstly I just let the PDA and Mac sync without clearing down the PDA  
first. As both the Mac and the PDA had almost the same appointments,  
both generated from the old version of Missing Sync, it seemed fairly  
straightforward. At first glance this appeared to work OK, certainly  
from the PDA end, however when I went into iCal I found that every  
single appointment in iCal had been moved into my default calendar,  
from all of the different calendars I had used.

After this I rolled back iCal to my backup, and moved on to try  
rebuilding the calendar from scratch on the PDA by resetting the  
relationship using the MSSync Utility.

Basically I've been unable to get a clean rebuild using this method  
at all, consistently the rebuild fails with a 'Bad Record' error.  
I've deleted these as they came up until it produced the error on a  
record in a subscribed calendar, at which point I'm stuck.

10/3/05 22:58:12  MSUI:  iCal: setStatusString string=Writing Events  
record 352 to device
10/3/05 22:58:12  MSUI:  iCal: Error writing record for event "CW  
Martyrs of Uganda, 1886 and 1978" starting 20050603T000000.
10/3/05 22:58:12  MSUI:  iCal: RAPI error: 32 last error: 1
10/3/05 22:58:13  MSUI:  iCal: setStatusString string=Cleaning up
10/3/05 22:58:15  MSUI:  iCal: ISyncSessionCancelledException Session  
<ISyncConcreteSession: 0x381810> cancelled. Session cancelled by client
10/3/05 22:58:15  MSUI:  iCal: completePIMUpload called.
10/3/05 22:58:15  MSUI:  iCal: Unlocked Calendar
10/3/05 22:58:15  MSUI:  iCal: Unlocked Tasks
10/3/05 22:58:15  MSUI:  iCal: Unlocked com.markspace.syncservices
10/3/05 22:58:15  MSUI:  iCal: setBusy 0
10/3/05 22:58:15  MSUI:  iCal: setStatusString string=Bad record.  
Call support.

The above is the most recent failure - all the rest fail with exactly  
the same series of errors, just a different event. There seems to be  
nothing in common between the particular records that fail. What is  
particularly annoying is that once it gets one of these Missing Sync  
just pulls the plug, and doesn't move on.

It is worth bearing in mind that all of the events that fail have  
previously been transferred from Mac to PDA using Missing Sync V1,  
aside from having taken the calendars from MacOS 10.3.9 to 10.4 I  
haven't done anything to the events that are failing.

Regards,

Richard
From miked916 at mac.com  Mon Oct  3 18:42:35 2005
From: miked916 at mac.com (Mike Deleon)
Date: Mon Oct  3 18:44:29 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] Windows Mobile 5.0
In-Reply-To: <200510031918.j93JFi5l024614@sparrow.markspace.com>
References: <200510031918.j93JFi5l024614@sparrow.markspace.com>
Message-ID: <55604FAD-7A95-4C7D-B03D-72479FD529B6@mac.com>

Was there ever an estimated date set for compatibility with WM 5.0  
devices?  I'll be getting an iMate KJam this week and actually  
thought that this version of missing sync was already compatible with  
WM 5.0.

Mike
From russ at shoesforindustry.net  Mon Oct  3 23:16:43 2005
From: russ at shoesforindustry.net (Russell Baldwin)
Date: Mon Oct  3 23:16:53 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] Beta 5 - Better, but still problems
In-Reply-To: <A007631E-17E2-4B1E-9F9D-4CD6ACC22342@calusari.com>
References: <200510031915.j93JFLAx024588@sparrow.markspace.com>
	<A007631E-17E2-4B1E-9F9D-4CD6ACC22342@calusari.com>
Message-ID: <CE3BE999-F7EF-4714-97DB-C5BC3A22CF5D@shoesforindustry.net>

Just out of curiosity Richard, do you use .Mac sync? I think I had  
the same problem. When I had a look through my iCal there were  
multiple appointments for certain events (and I mean lots) at  
different times - like one hour ahead or previous. I have 'the use  
timezone' set in my iCal (London/Europe). Some of these seemed to  
come from .Mac?

Anyway, I turned of .Mac sync for iCal and Address. I then got rid of  
all the duplicates in iCal and on the PDA ( a laborious process at  
best,) and it now syncs without error. Well at least for the time  
being. I've had this before but didn't make the possible connection  
with .Mac Sync. In any event I will try it without for the time being  
a see how it goes. it could be a red herring though :)

Incidentally I've also had spurious addresses appearing in my address  
book (e.g. not mine) when I've been using .Mac Sync???

It might also be an idea to have the option to only sync the past  
four weeks of appointments and all future appointment aka MS  
ActiveSync? Also the sync of files via the mounted folder is both  
slow (USB 1.0 I guess) and fails on anything over about 0.5MB. Either  
to card or to memory. I have a call logged for this I wonder if this  
will help jog your memory.

Russ

On 3 Oct 2005, at 23:26, Richard Peat wrote:

> I've given Beta 5 a pretty good run round tonight. The calendar  
> sync is better, but still not right.
>
> Firstly I just let the PDA and Mac sync without clearing down the  
> PDA first. As both the Mac and the PDA had almost the same  
> appointments, both generated from the old version of Missing Sync,  
> it seemed fairly straightforward. At first glance this appeared to  
> work OK, certainly from the PDA end, however when I went into iCal  
> I found that every single appointment in iCal had been moved into  
> my default calendar, from all of the different calendars I had used.
> n
> After this I rolled back iCal to my backup, and moved on to try  
> rebuilding the calendar from scratch on the PDA by resetting the  
> relationship using the MSSync Utility.
>
> Basically I've been unable to get a clean rebuild using this method  
> at all, consistently the rebuild fails with a 'Bad Record' error.  
> I've deleted these as they came up until it produced the error on a  
> record in a subscribed calendar, at which point I'm stuck.
>
> 10/3/05 22:58:12  MSUI:  iCal: setStatusString string=Writing  
> Events record 352 to device
> 10/3/05 22:58:12  MSUI:  iCal: Error writing record for event "CW  
> Martyrs of Uganda, 1886 and 1978" starting 20050603T000000.
> 10/3/05 22:58:12  MSUI:  iCal: RAPI error: 32 last error: 1
> 10/3/05 22:58:13  MSUI:  iCal: setStatusString string=Cleaning up
> 10/3/05 22:58:15  MSUI:  iCal: ISyncSessionCancelledException  
> Session <ISyncConcreteSession: 0x381810> cancelled. Session  
> cancelled by client
> 10/3/05 22:58:15  MSUI:  iCal: completePIMUpload called.
> 10/3/05 22:58:15  MSUI:  iCal: Unlocked Calendar
> 10/3/05 22:58:15  MSUI:  iCal: Unlocked Tasks
> 10/3/05 22:58:15  MSUI:  iCal: Unlocked com.markspace.syncservices
> 10/3/05 22:58:15  MSUI:  iCal: setBusy 0
> 10/3/05 22:58:15  MSUI:  iCal: setStatusString string=Bad record.  
> Call support.
>
> The above is the most recent failure - all the rest fail with  
> exactly the same series of errors, just a different event. There  
> seems to be nothing in common between the particular records that  
> fail. What is particularly annoying is that once it gets one of  
> these Missing Sync just pulls the plug, and doesn't move on.
>
> It is worth bearing in mind that all of the events that fail have  
> previously been transferred from Mac to PDA using Missing Sync V1,  
> aside from having taken the calendars from MacOS 10.3.9 to 10.4 I  
> haven't done anything to the events that are failing.
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard
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From brian_hall at markspace.com  Tue Oct  4 09:54:49 2005
From: brian_hall at markspace.com (Brian Hall)
Date: Tue Oct  4 09:56:37 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] Windows Mobile 5.0
In-Reply-To: <55604FAD-7A95-4C7D-B03D-72479FD529B6@mac.com>
References: <200510031918.j93JFi5l024614@sparrow.markspace.com>
	<55604FAD-7A95-4C7D-B03D-72479FD529B6@mac.com>
Message-ID: <p0621021bbf685d3fb59d@[192.168.60.86]>

>Was there ever an estimated date set for compatibility with WM 5.0
>devices?  I'll be getting an iMate KJam this week and actually
>thought that this version of missing sync was already compatible with
>WM 5.0.

We have not announced a date.

We have said on this list (and at our web site) that we are working on
adding WM5 support, and that WM5 support will be part of the 2.x series
(ie, a free update if you already own 2.x)

We will post to this list as we have further news, and a formal
announcement to markspace-announce (join at lists.markspace.com) when it
becomes available.

Brian

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From mjkelly at gmail.com  Tue Oct  4 10:08:48 2005
From: mjkelly at gmail.com (Matt Kelly)
Date: Tue Oct  4 10:08:41 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] Windows Mobile 5.0
In-Reply-To: <p0621021bbf685d3fb59d@[192.168.60.86]>
References: <200510031918.j93JFi5l024614@sparrow.markspace.com>
	<55604FAD-7A95-4C7D-B03D-72479FD529B6@mac.com>
	<p0621021bbf685d3fb59d@[192.168.60.86]>
Message-ID: <B4EC245B-E54A-42D1-BAA2-8A30043EEA43@gmail.com>

Brian,

So you no idea on a date then?  Even if its 6 months it would be nice  
to know just we can prepare.  I'm loving my new sprint phone/pocket  
pc but it would be even nicer if i could sync it :)


On Oct 4, 2005, at 12:54 PM, Brian Hall wrote:

>> Was there ever an estimated date set for compatibility with WM 5.0
>> devices?  I'll be getting an iMate KJam this week and actually
>> thought that this version of missing sync was already compatible with
>> WM 5.0.
>>
>
> We have not announced a date.
>
> We have said on this list (and at our web site) that we are working on
> adding WM5 support, and that WM5 support will be part of the 2.x  
> series
> (ie, a free update if you already own 2.x)
>
> We will post to this list as we have further news, and a formal
> announcement to markspace-announce (join at lists.markspace.com)  
> when it
> becomes available.
>
> Brian
>
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From richard at calusari.com  Tue Oct  4 13:53:58 2005
From: richard at calusari.com (Richard Peat)
Date: Tue Oct  4 13:54:06 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] Beta 5 - Better, but still problems
In-Reply-To: <200510041913.j94JD8NB025877@sparrow.markspace.com>
References: <200510041913.j94JD8NB025877@sparrow.markspace.com>
Message-ID: <E9C51760-E213-4F6C-AB21-D8072732BF0D@calusari.com>


On Oct 4, 2005, at 8:13 pm, missing-sync-winmobile-talk- 
request@lists.markspace.com wrote:

 > Just out of curiosity Richard, do you use .Mac sync? I think I had  
the same problem. When I had a look through my iCal there were multiple
 > appointments for certain events (and I mean lots) at different  
times - like one hour ahead or previous. I have 'the use timezone'  
set in my iCal
 > (London/Europe). Some of these seemed to come from .Mac?

No, I've not ever used .Mac sync. I have in the past turned on  
timezone support back when I initially set up the PDA with Missing  
Sync V1 - but I had a similar experience as you with events going all  
over the place, so rolled back and kept it turned off since then.

Certainly, the option to sync only a limited subset of my calendars  
would be helpful, as I'm not really keen on having to throw away  
large amounts of historic stuff in iCal that is useful for tracking  
what I was doing when, just to get the PDA to cope.

I have had a support call open with Markspace over a similar problem  
with hitting a calendar item, and failing, which got as far as  
Markspace suggesting that my iCal database was corrupt. However It is  
worth noting that, whilst the calendar app might not be as  
complicated, normal iSync quite happily syncs up my diary with my  
mobile phone (a SE K750i), including the records that Missing Sync is  
throwing up as being bad.

Richard
From jbenavrom-markspace at yahoo.com  Tue Oct  4 15:26:52 2005
From: jbenavrom-markspace at yahoo.com (jbenavrom-markspace@yahoo.com)
Date: Tue Oct  4 15:26:55 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] Syncess, finally
In-Reply-To: <200510041917.j94JDW50025904@sparrow.markspace.com>
Message-ID: <20051004222652.52804.qmail@web81404.mail.yahoo.com>

The later #5 beta seems to be working for me. I've
managed mulitple consecutive syncs without a problem. 

I also figured out a work-around for what could have
been a big problem. My iCal calender and addressbook
were both in good shape and up to date on the Mac. But
a problem with the PocketPC forced me to restore a
week-old backup. I knew this would be a problem when
trying to sync. Here's what I did: I made a full
backup of the iCal and addressbook data. Ran a sync.
It screwed up all the data on my Mac - as expected. I
restored my data from the backup and ran another sync.
This was enough to fix iCal and get it back on track.
Addressbook was still all screwed up. But one more
restore from the backup and sync actually got that
working again. It took more time than I think it
should, but it did have a happy ending. 

QUESTION: Why can't Missing Sync just let  me tell it
that the data is correct on the Mac (or the PPC) and
that it should correct the other device? iSync and
iMac can do that. In fact, every other backup program
I've ever used can do that. Is there some technical
reason that makes such a simple idea difficult to put
in the software?

From kfreeman at markspace.com  Tue Oct  4 15:55:24 2005
From: kfreeman at markspace.com (Ken Freeman)
Date: Tue Oct  4 15:55:30 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] Syncess, finally
In-Reply-To: <20051004222652.52804.qmail@web81404.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BF68566C.F5D2%kfreeman@markspace.com>

On 10/4/05 3:26 PM, "jbenavrom-markspace@yahoo.com"
<jbenavrom-markspace@yahoo.com> wrote:

> The later #5 beta seems to be working for me. I've
> managed mulitple consecutive syncs without a problem.
> 
> I also figured out a work-around for what could have
> been a big problem. My iCal calender and addressbook
> were both in good shape and up to date on the Mac. But
> a problem with the PocketPC forced me to restore a
> week-old backup. I knew this would be a problem when
> trying to sync. Here's what I did: I made a full
> backup of the iCal and addressbook data. Ran a sync.
> It screwed up all the data on my Mac - as expected. I
> restored my data from the backup and ran another sync.
> This was enough to fix iCal and get it back on track.
> Addressbook was still all screwed up. But one more
> restore from the backup and sync actually got that
> working again. It took more time than I think it
> should, but it did have a happy ending.
> 
> QUESTION: Why can't Missing Sync just let  me tell it
> that the data is correct on the Mac (or the PPC) and
> that it should correct the other device? iSync and
> iMac can do that. In fact, every other backup program
> I've ever used can do that. Is there some technical
> reason that makes such a simple idea difficult to put
> in the software?

So yes, this is an obvious desired feature, but the information we need to
offer this option is not yet public with Tiger/Sync Services.

If you note, the first time you connect and sync a device the "Sync Alert"
asks if you want to overwrite the device with the Mac data, but no other
options are offered. This is a limitation of the available options in this
dialog. We are hoping Apple will explain to third party developers how to
add other options to this dialog.

We are looking in how to present the choices within the iCal and Address
Book Plugin to then allow the Mac to overwrite the device, or the device
overwrite the Mac.

Ken

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From dmrochell at yahoo.com  Tue Oct  4 17:52:59 2005
From: dmrochell at yahoo.com (Doran Rochell)
Date: Tue Oct  4 17:53:12 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] Syncing with Entourage v.X
Message-ID: <20051005005259.97837.qmail@web60823.mail.yahoo.com>

I am told that Mark/Space does not support syncing The Missing Sync for Windows Mobile, with Entourage v. X but they advised me to check this list.  Does anyone have any experience syncing this product with Entourage v.X?  I'm using MacOS 10.3.9.  I'd like to know if this has worked for people, or if it should be avoided.  Thanks.

From jay.levenson at s-s-t-i.com  Wed Oct  5 06:36:54 2005
From: jay.levenson at s-s-t-i.com (Jay Levenson)
Date: Wed Oct  5 06:37:12 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] Recurring events
Message-ID: <DD0A46E2-182A-4594-93EA-1BE6E62ACD18@s-s-t-i.com>

When a recurring event is set to occur on a particular day each month  
(i.e. 3rd Wednesday), the Windows Mobile 2003 calendar gets the  
proper dates from iCal.  When Syncing, the dates coming back from the  
PDA (Dell Axim X30 in this case) are changed to the same date each  
month as the first event in the series (i.e. 15th).  It appears that  
there is no option in the Windows calendar to repeat an event on a  
set day (i.e. 3rd Wednesday).  MissingSync needs to not override the  
Mac iCal series setting during a sync.  This is a BIG problem.
--
Jay Levenson

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From mallard01 at earthlink.net  Thu Oct  6 05:18:10 2005
From: mallard01 at earthlink.net (William M. Blackie III)
Date: Thu Oct  6 05:21:12 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] Changing Sync Settings
Message-ID: <BF6A8E42.91D%mallard01@earthlink.net>

I would like to know how to change the default sync settings. More
specifically, I would like to have the sync settings for Entourage default
to Entourage overwrite handheld for contacts.


From daniel.beiderwieden at gmx.de  Thu Oct  6 06:33:45 2005
From: daniel.beiderwieden at gmx.de (Daniel Beiderwieden)
Date: Thu Oct  6 06:33:57 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] bluetooth
Message-ID: <82672572-3823-4763-AD98-9C0FEA2DCDA2@gmx.de>

i took the time to try to get my mda compact synced via  
bluetooth...it doesnt work

i watched the how-to and ended up with not having an bluetooth  
manager....

then i just tried to pair the device and pairing works...but thats  
all. no sync, nothing.

can i please get a step by step to get this thing to work...what do i  
have to change on the ibook/mda???
From kfreeman at markspace.com  Thu Oct  6 08:55:38 2005
From: kfreeman at markspace.com (Ken Freeman)
Date: Thu Oct  6 08:55:43 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] Changing Sync Settings
In-Reply-To: <BF6A8E42.91D%mallard01@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <BF6A970A.F70B%kfreeman@markspace.com>

Currently you can't set the default to always force Entourage to overwrite
the handheld. You have to change the setting before each sync. We'll look at
adding this functionality.

Ken


On 10/6/05 5:18 AM, "William M. Blackie III" <mallard01@earthlink.net>
wrote:

> I would like to know how to change the default sync settings. More
> specifically, I would like to have the sync settings for Entourage default
> to Entourage overwrite handheld for contacts.
> 
> 
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From jbg at qualcomm.com  Thu Oct  6 09:09:24 2005
From: jbg at qualcomm.com (Jeff Gehlhaar)
Date: Thu Oct  6 09:09:35 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] bluetooth
In-Reply-To: <82672572-3823-4763-AD98-9C0FEA2DCDA2@gmx.de>
Message-ID: <BF6A9A44.1882D%jbg@qualcomm.com>

Yeah..  I've never been able to get this to work either.

-- Jeff Gehlhaar



On 10/6/05 6:33 AM, "Daniel Beiderwieden" <daniel.beiderwieden@gmx.de>
wrote:

> i took the time to try to get my mda compact synced via
> bluetooth...it doesnt work
> 
> i watched the how-to and ended up with not having an bluetooth
> manager....
> 
> then i just tried to pair the device and pairing works...but thats
> all. no sync, nothing.
> 
> can i please get a step by step to get this thing to work...what do i
> have to change on the ibook/mda???
> _______________________________________________
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From daniel.beiderwieden at gmx.de  Thu Oct  6 10:06:18 2005
From: daniel.beiderwieden at gmx.de (Daniel Beiderwieden)
Date: Thu Oct  6 10:06:31 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] functions on/off
Message-ID: <B3C6EFBE-8E3C-4D0A-B36A-BA83DB94FDD0@gmx.de>

will there be an option to choose which plugin i want to use when the  
device is mounted?

i dont want to use the itunes plugin, cause it is buggy and without  
any sense till i can write on my sd-card...
From apple at frinabulax.org  Thu Oct  6 13:03:46 2005
From: apple at frinabulax.org (robert delius royar)
Date: Thu Oct  6 13:04:20 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] Changing Sync Settings
In-Reply-To: <BF6A970A.F70B%kfreeman@markspace.com>
References: <BF6A970A.F70B%kfreeman@markspace.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.OSX.4.64.0510061557500.1949@teraqny.sevanohynk.bet>

I wish there were a flag, similar to ActiveSync, that tells the program 
Always replace items on
   [] the device
   [] the computer
I do not add appointments on the computer any longer, and do not want to 
lose data on the device.  I have had problems in the past with ActiveSync 
overwriting new device records with old Outlook data before I turned that 
option on in ActiveSync.  (This was years ago when I still used W2K and an 
old WinCE device, but I figure the idea still holds.)

Thu, 6 Oct 2005 (08:55 -0700 UTC) Ken Freeman wrote:

> Currently you can't set the default to always force Entourage to overwrite
> the handheld. You have to change the setting before each sync. We'll look at
> adding this functionality.
>
> Ken
>
>
> On 10/6/05 5:18 AM, "William M. Blackie III" <mallard01@earthlink.net>
> wrote:
>
>> I would like to know how to change the default sync settings. More
>> specifically, I would like to have the sync settings for Entourage default
>> to Entourage overwrite handheld for contacts.
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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-- 
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Morehead State University                             Morehead, Kentucky
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From hoelzer at unr.edu  Thu Oct  6 14:24:02 2005
From: hoelzer at unr.edu (Guy A. Hoelzer)
Date: Thu Oct  6 14:24:09 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] MS can't find its own iCal plugin
In-Reply-To: <c86830d4050830081497e673e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c86830d4050830081497e673e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F766ECC3-7EFE-4AE9-9CC5-7710B9F39575@unr.edu>

I have not been able to sync any of my iCal information with my Dell  
Axim X30 since switching to Tiger and MS for Windows Mobile.  The  
kind of error preceding disconnection between MS and my pda has  
changed with each subsequent upgrade (I am currently trying the b5  
version).  The error that I am currently getting seems like one that  
should be easily fixed.  It reads:

"Can't open plugin /Library/Application Support/Missing Sync for  
Windows Mobile/Plugins/iCal via Sync Services.app. Error -1712."

Is there something simple I can try to fix this issue?

Thanks,

Guy Hoelzer
Department of Biology
University of Nevada Reno
Reno, NV  89557

Phone:  775-784-4860
Fax:  775-784-1302

From kfreeman at markspace.com  Fri Oct  7 09:33:00 2005
From: kfreeman at markspace.com (Ken Freeman)
Date: Fri Oct  7 09:33:07 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] bluetooth
In-Reply-To: <82672572-3823-4763-AD98-9C0FEA2DCDA2@gmx.de>
Message-ID: <BF6BF14C.F78A%kfreeman@markspace.com>

On 10/6/05 6:33 AM, "Daniel Beiderwieden" <daniel.beiderwieden@gmx.de>
wrote:

> i took the time to try to get my mda compact synced via
> bluetooth...it doesnt work
> 
> i watched the how-to and ended up with not having an bluetooth
> manager....

Not sure what you mean by not having a Bluetooth Manager? The Bluetooth
Manager on my device often will not open. I have to do a soft reset of the
device to get the Bluetooth Manager. I don't think this has anything to do
with the Missing Sync, but it makes connecting or pairing a pain.

> 
> then i just tried to pair the device and pairing works...but thats
> all. no sync, nothing.

Did you initiate the pairing from the Mac or the device. For some reason it
is best to initiate the pairing from the phone using the Connection Wizard
in the Bluetooth Manager. There is a specific "ActiveSync via Bleutooth"
wizard. Smartphone's don't have the same type of wizard but you can initiate
the pairing from Start > Settings > Bluetooth. Some Smartphones also have a
"Setup BT ActiveSync" option in the ActiveSync menu.

The tips for clearing up any remaining Bluetooth connection problems are:

- Disable any firewalls, or open ports 5678 and 5679.

- If the device has both WiFi and Bluetooth, disable WiFi when trying to
Bleutooth sync.

- In the Bluetooth preferences on the Mac, select the sharing tab, then
select "Bluetooth-PDA-Sync" and try switching the type from "Modem to
RS-232."

- Make sure you have Bluetooth enabled in the Missing Sync preferences

- If your Mac is not currently connected to the Internet, try connecting to
the Internet and then connect via Bluetooth.

Ken

> 
> can i please get a step by step to get this thing to work...what do i
> have to change on the ibook/mda???
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From apple at frinabulax.org  Fri Oct  7 10:45:55 2005
From: apple at frinabulax.org (robert delius royar)
Date: Fri Oct  7 10:46:33 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] bluetooth
In-Reply-To: <BF6BF14C.F78A%kfreeman@markspace.com>
References: <BF6BF14C.F78A%kfreeman@markspace.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.OSX.4.64.0510071338520.5696@teraqny.sevanohynk.bet>

Fri, 7 Oct 2005 (09:33 -0700 UTC) Ken Freeman wrote:

> On 10/6/05 6:33 AM, "Daniel Beiderwieden" <daniel.beiderwieden@gmx.de>
> wrote:
[...]
> - In the Bluetooth preferences on the Mac, select the sharing tab, then
> select "Bluetooth-PDA-Sync" and try switching the type from "Modem to
> RS-232."

I have had problems getting Bluetooth sync to work and found (during the 
last problem time) that the Mac BT Preferences had lost the entry 
Bluetooth-PDA-Sync.  I cleared the device from the preferences and removed 
the Mac<->Device pairing then re-paired.  Once I got the Bluetooth-PDA-Sync 
back in the Preferences->Sharing tab, MS could see the device fine.  The 
other BT functions worked OK.  The problem arose right after installing Beta 
5.  That is probably just a coincidence.

-- 
Dr. Robert Delius Royar                   Associate Professor of English
Morehead State University                             Morehead, Kentucky
From kfreeman at markspace.com  Fri Oct  7 11:48:31 2005
From: kfreeman at markspace.com (Ken Freeman)
Date: Fri Oct  7 11:48:36 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] functions on/off
In-Reply-To: <B3C6EFBE-8E3C-4D0A-B36A-BA83DB94FDD0@gmx.de>
Message-ID: <BF6C110F.F7A5%kfreeman@markspace.com>

Just to be clear, the iTunes plugin is a plugin for iTunes. Not to be
confused with a plugin for Missing Sync, the one's that show up in the
Missing Sync UI.

If you don't want to use the iTunes plugin at all you can remove the iTunes
plugin by going to /Library/itunes/iTunes Plug-ins and removing the
"MissingSyncPlugin.bundle". If you ever wanted it back, you could copy it
back or reinstall.

Ken

On 10/6/05 10:06 AM, "Daniel Beiderwieden" <daniel.beiderwieden@gmx.de>
wrote:

> will there be an option to choose which plugin i want to use when the
> device is mounted?
> 
> i dont want to use the itunes plugin, cause it is buggy and without
> any sense till i can write on my sd-card...
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From kfreeman at markspace.com  Fri Oct  7 11:55:40 2005
From: kfreeman at markspace.com (Ken Freeman)
Date: Fri Oct  7 11:55:44 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] MS can't find its own iCal
 plugin
In-Reply-To: <F766ECC3-7EFE-4AE9-9CC5-7710B9F39575@unr.edu>
Message-ID: <BF6C12BC.F7A9%kfreeman@markspace.com>

Sounds like it might be a rights issue trying to open the plugin. Have you
tried to reinstall or use the Disk Utility to repair permissions?

I have not seen this error before.

Ken


On 10/6/05 2:24 PM, "Guy A. Hoelzer" <hoelzer@unr.edu> wrote:

> I have not been able to sync any of my iCal information with my Dell
> Axim X30 since switching to Tiger and MS for Windows Mobile.  The
> kind of error preceding disconnection between MS and my pda has
> changed with each subsequent upgrade (I am currently trying the b5
> version).  The error that I am currently getting seems like one that
> should be easily fixed.  It reads:
> 
> "Can't open plugin /Library/Application Support/Missing Sync for
> Windows Mobile/Plugins/iCal via Sync Services.app. Error -1712."
> 
> Is there something simple I can try to fix this issue?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Guy Hoelzer
> Department of Biology
> University of Nevada Reno
> Reno, NV  89557
> 
> Phone:  775-784-4860
> Fax:  775-784-1302
> 
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From hoelzer at unr.edu  Fri Oct  7 16:16:53 2005
From: hoelzer at unr.edu (Guy A. Hoelzer)
Date: Fri Oct  7 16:16:59 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] MS can't find its own iCal plugin
In-Reply-To: <BF6C12BC.F7A9%kfreeman@markspace.com>
References: <BF6C12BC.F7A9%kfreeman@markspace.com>
Message-ID: <A8F5D16E-EA7F-46CD-A51A-A7031521E386@unr.edu>


On Oct 7, 2005, at 11:55 AM, Ken Freeman wrote:

> Sounds like it might be a rights issue trying to open the plugin.  
> Have you
> tried to reinstall or use the Disk Utility to repair permissions?
>
> I have not seen this error before.

Thanks Ken.  Repairing permissions had no effect, but reinstalling  
changed made this particular error go away.  Of course, I still can't  
sync iCal with my pda.  The relevant part of the log now reports the  
following:

10/7/05 13:54:29  Monitor:  sendAckObjectId Appointment, oid = 151002664
10/7/05 13:54:29  Listener:  willDisconnectWithError
10/7/05 13:54:29  MSUI:  iCal: setStatusString string=Deleting Events  
record 1 from device
10/7/05 13:54:29  Listener:  Socket will disconnect. Error domain 1,  
code 54 (Connection reset by peer).
10/7/05 13:54:29  Monitor:  sendAckObjectId Appointment, oid = 50339000
10/7/05 13:54:29  Monitor:  sendAckObjectId Appointment, oid = 0
10/7/05 13:54:29  Monitor:  sendAckObjectId Appointment, oid = 0
10/7/05 13:54:29  MSUI:  iCal: setStatusString string=Deleting Events  
record 2 from device
10/7/05 13:54:29  Monitor:  Socket will disconnect. Error domain 1,  
code 54 (Connection reset by peer).
10/7/05 13:54:29  MSUI:  iCal: setStatusString string=Cleaning up
10/7/05 13:54:30  Listener:  in close
10/7/05 13:54:30  Monitor:  forgetDevice  rraServer:3935632
10/7/05 13:54:30  Monitor:  releasing RRAServer
10/7/05 13:54:30  MSUI:  disconnect
10/7/05 13:54:30  Monitor:  usb: finished relaying
10/7/05 13:54:30  Monitor:  Internet Sharing de-prep: 5
10/7/05 13:54:30  Monitor:  usb: deactivateCheckForSharingPreferences
10/7/05 13:54:30  Monitor:  usb: killing pppd: pid 239
10/7/05 13:54:30  Listener:  In cancel
10/7/05 13:54:30  Monitor:  forgetDevice  rraServer:0
10/7/05 13:54:46  MSUI:  disconnect

It looks like MS keeps trying to do something that is rejected by my  
pda, ultimately leading to disconnection.  Do you have another gem of  
a solution?

Cheers,

Guy Hoelzer
Department of Biology
University of Nevada Reno
Reno, NV  89557

Phone:  775-784-4860
Fax:  775-784-1302

From pierre.bed at osteos.ch  Sat Oct  8 01:34:51 2005
From: pierre.bed at osteos.ch (Pierre)
Date: Sat Oct  8 01:34:58 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] bluetooth
In-Reply-To: <82672572-3823-4763-AD98-9C0FEA2DCDA2@gmx.de>
Message-ID: <7EC5416B-ABCA-4D9F-8840-5C97D2C8636E@osteos.ch>

On 10/6/05 6:33 AM, "Daniel Beiderwieden" <daniel.beiderwieden@gmx.de>
wrote:


> i took the time to try to get my mda compact synced via
> bluetooth...it doesnt work
>
> i watched the how-to and ended up with not having an bluetooth
> manager....
>

Not sure what you mean by not having a Bluetooth Manager? The Bluetooth
Manager on my device often will not open. I have to do a soft reset  
of the
device to get the Bluetooth Manager. I don't think this has anything  
to do
with the Missing Sync, but it makes connecting or pairing a pain.


>
> then i just tried to pair the device and pairing works...but thats
> all. no sync, nothing.
>

Did you initiate the pairing from the Mac or the device. For some  
reason it
is best to initiate the pairing from the phone using the Connection  
Wizard
in the Bluetooth Manager. There is a specific "ActiveSync via Bleutooth"
wizard. Smartphone's don't have the same type of wizard but you can  
initiate
the pairing from Start > Settings > Bluetooth. Some Smartphones also  
have a
"Setup BT ActiveSync" option in the ActiveSync menu.

The tips for clearing up any remaining Bluetooth connection problems  
are:

- Disable any firewalls, or open ports 5678 and 5679.

- If the device has both WiFi and Bluetooth, disable WiFi when trying to
Bleutooth sync.

- In the Bluetooth preferences on the Mac, select the sharing tab, then
select "Bluetooth-PDA-Sync" and try switching the type from "Modem to
RS-232."

- Make sure you have Bluetooth enabled in the Missing Sync preferences

- If your Mac is not currently connected to the Internet, try  
connecting to
the Internet and then connect via Bluetooth.

Ken


>
> can i please get a step by step to get this thing to work...what do i
> have to change on the ibook/mda???
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From daniel.beiderwieden at gmx.de  Sat Oct  8 02:15:37 2005
From: daniel.beiderwieden at gmx.de (Daniel Beiderwieden)
Date: Sat Oct  8 02:15:40 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] bluetooth
References: <7EC5416B-ABCA-4D9F-8840-5C97D2C8636E@osteos.ch>
Message-ID: <25733.1128762937@www19.gmx.net>

> --- Urspr?ngliche Nachricht ---
> Von: Pierre <pierre.bed@osteos.ch>
> An: The Missing Sync for Windows Mobile Discussion
> List	<missing-sync-winmobile-talk@lists.markspace.com>
> Betreff: Re: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] bluetooth
> Datum: Sat, 8 Oct 2005 10:34:51 +0200
> 
> On 10/6/05 6:33 AM, "Daniel Beiderwieden" <daniel.beiderwieden@gmx.de>
> wrote:
> 
> 
> > i took the time to try to get my mda compact synced via
> > bluetooth...it doesnt work
> >
> > i watched the how-to and ended up with not having an bluetooth
> > manager....
> >
> 
> Not sure what you mean by not having a Bluetooth Manager? The Bluetooth
> Manager on my device often will not open. I have to do a soft reset  
> of the
> device to get the Bluetooth Manager. I don't think this has anything  
> to do
> with the Missing Sync, but it makes connecting or pairing a pain.
> 

not having a bluetooth-manager means i dont have a software called
bluetooth-manager!
here you can see the differences having a B-M or not:
http://www.sotmysoft.de/MDAII_XPSP2_Bluetooth.htm
and with B-M
http://www.sotmysoft.de/iPAQ3970_Widcomm_Bluetooth_.htm

> 
> >
> > then i just tried to pair the device and pairing works...but thats
> > all. no sync, nothing.
> >
> 
> Did you initiate the pairing from the Mac or the device. For some  

i did the pairing from the mda compact

> reason it
> is best to initiate the pairing from the phone using the Connection  
> Wizard
> in the Bluetooth Manager. There is a specific "ActiveSync via Bleutooth"
> wizard. Smartphone's don't have the same type of wizard but you can  

mda compacts also dont have this wizard...

> initiate
> the pairing from Start > Settings > Bluetooth. Some Smartphones also  
> have a
> "Setup BT ActiveSync" option in the ActiveSync menu.
> 
> The tips for clearing up any remaining Bluetooth connection problems  
> are:
> 
> - Disable any firewalls, or open ports 5678 and 5679.

firewall is not active on the mac

> 
> - If the device has both WiFi and Bluetooth, disable WiFi when trying to
> Bleutooth sync.

device=mda? mda has no wifi

> 
> - In the Bluetooth preferences on the Mac, select the sharing tab, then
> select "Bluetooth-PDA-Sync" and try switching the type from "Modem to
> RS-232."

there is bluetooth-pda-sync to select in the options...there is just a
"dienst zu seriellem anschluss hinzuf?gen", which will cause a SerialPort-1.
i did have this serialport active by the way...

when i choose my device at the devices-tab (ger?te) i have the opportunity
to edit ports (anschl?sse bearbeiten)... i activated the com4 as rs-232

> 
> - Make sure you have Bluetooth enabled in the Missing Sync preferences
> 
> - If your Mac is not currently connected to the Internet, try  
> connecting to
> the Internet and then connect via Bluetooth.
> 
> Ken
> 
> 
> >
> > can i please get a step by step to get this thing to work...what do i
> > have to change on the ibook/mda???
> > _______________________________________________

is there any chance to get this to work? have you ever tried any device
without bluetooth-manager before announcing to support bluetooth-sync?
i never got my qtek 8010 to sync via bt and now have problems with the mda
too....thats not really a good support for this function...

well, maybe the device is the problem. can anyone please check if a htc
magician or himalaya is able to work with bt?

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From daniel.beiderwieden at gmx.de  Sat Oct  8 03:53:10 2005
From: daniel.beiderwieden at gmx.de (Daniel Beiderwieden)
Date: Sat Oct  8 03:53:11 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] no award...
References: <7EC5416B-ABCA-4D9F-8840-5C97D2C8636E@osteos.ch>
Message-ID: <27547.1128768790@www56.gmx.net>

did you know that ms was nominated for the best software award at pocket pc
magazine?

...but it wont win this award, cause pocketmac is one of the finalist and
not ms...
i know this must be a mistake, but please keep up with a good and friendly
support to get this little bugs fixed...

NEXT YEAR I WANT TO HAVE AN AWARD FOR THIS PRODUCT! :-)

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From pierre.bed at osteos.ch  Sat Oct  8 03:53:26 2005
From: pierre.bed at osteos.ch (Pierre)
Date: Sat Oct  8 03:53:31 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] bluetooth
In-Reply-To: <25733.1128762937@www19.gmx.net>
References: <7EC5416B-ABCA-4D9F-8840-5C97D2C8636E@osteos.ch>
	<25733.1128762937@www19.gmx.net>
Message-ID: <7C227DFC-7AB6-49B7-965B-FE433A3761B0@osteos.ch>

Hi,
I have exactly the same problem with my Qtek s100 (HTC magician) BT  
sync doesn't work (or sometimes do?!)  and Missing Sync assistance  
never found the way to fix it?!!

PB


Le 8 oct. 05 ? 11:15, Daniel Beiderwieden a ?crit :

>> --- Urspr?ngliche Nachricht ---
>> Von: Pierre <pierre.bed@osteos.ch>
>> An: The Missing Sync for Windows Mobile Discussion
>> List    <missing-sync-winmobile-talk@lists.markspace.com>
>> Betreff: Re: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] bluetooth
>> Datum: Sat, 8 Oct 2005 10:34:51 +0200
>>
>> On 10/6/05 6:33 AM, "Daniel Beiderwieden"  
>> <daniel.beiderwieden@gmx.de>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> i took the time to try to get my mda compact synced via
>>> bluetooth...it doesnt work
>>>
>>> i watched the how-to and ended up with not having an bluetooth
>>> manager....
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Not sure what you mean by not having a Bluetooth Manager? The  
>> Bluetooth
>> Manager on my device often will not open. I have to do a soft reset
>> of the
>> device to get the Bluetooth Manager. I don't think this has anything
>> to do
>> with the Missing Sync, but it makes connecting or pairing a pain.
>>
>>
>
> not having a bluetooth-manager means i dont have a software called
> bluetooth-manager!
> here you can see the differences having a B-M or not:
> http://www.sotmysoft.de/MDAII_XPSP2_Bluetooth.htm
> and with B-M
> http://www.sotmysoft.de/iPAQ3970_Widcomm_Bluetooth_.htm
>
>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> then i just tried to pair the device and pairing works...but thats
>>> all. no sync, nothing.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Did you initiate the pairing from the Mac or the device. For some
>>
>
> i did the pairing from the mda compact
>
>
>> reason it
>> is best to initiate the pairing from the phone using the Connection
>> Wizard
>> in the Bluetooth Manager. There is a specific "ActiveSync via  
>> Bleutooth"
>> wizard. Smartphone's don't have the same type of wizard but you can
>>
>
> mda compacts also dont have this wizard...
>
>
>> initiate
>> the pairing from Start > Settings > Bluetooth. Some Smartphones also
>> have a
>> "Setup BT ActiveSync" option in the ActiveSync menu.
>>
>> The tips for clearing up any remaining Bluetooth connection problems
>> are:
>>
>> - Disable any firewalls, or open ports 5678 and 5679.
>>
>
> firewall is not active on the mac
>
>
>>
>> - If the device has both WiFi and Bluetooth, disable WiFi when  
>> trying to
>> Bleutooth sync.
>>
>
> device=mda? mda has no wifi
>
>
>>
>> - In the Bluetooth preferences on the Mac, select the sharing tab,  
>> then
>> select "Bluetooth-PDA-Sync" and try switching the type from "Modem to
>> RS-232."
>>
>
> there is bluetooth-pda-sync to select in the options...there is just a
> "dienst zu seriellem anschluss hinzuf?gen", which will cause a  
> SerialPort-1.
> i did have this serialport active by the way...
>
> when i choose my device at the devices-tab (ger?te) i have the  
> opportunity
> to edit ports (anschl?sse bearbeiten)... i activated the com4 as  
> rs-232
>
>
>>
>> - Make sure you have Bluetooth enabled in the Missing Sync  
>> preferences
>>
>> - If your Mac is not currently connected to the Internet, try
>> connecting to
>> the Internet and then connect via Bluetooth.
>>
>> Ken
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> can i please get a step by step to get this thing to work...what  
>>> do i
>>> have to change on the ibook/mda???
>>> _______________________________________________
>>>
>
> is there any chance to get this to work? have you ever tried any  
> device
> without bluetooth-manager before announcing to support bluetooth-sync?
> i never got my qtek 8010 to sync via bt and now have problems with  
> the mda
> too....thats not really a good support for this function...
>
> well, maybe the device is the problem. can anyone please check if a  
> htc
> magician or himalaya is able to work with bt?
>
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From miked916 at mac.com  Sat Oct  8 09:56:33 2005
From: miked916 at mac.com (Mike Deleon)
Date: Sat Oct  8 09:55:19 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] Support for imate wizard?
Message-ID: <200510081655.j98Gt0wk022192@mac.com>

I just got an i-mate wizard and was wondering if this device planned to be supported in the future.  It's pretty new and I believe is a windows mobile 5 device.  Any help appreciated.

Mike

From daniel.beiderwieden at gmx.de  Sat Oct  8 10:18:32 2005
From: daniel.beiderwieden at gmx.de (Daniel Beiderwieden)
Date: Sat Oct  8 10:18:35 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] Support for imate wizard?
References: <200510081655.j98Gt0wk022192@mac.com>
Message-ID: <3237.1128791912@www16.gmx.net>

u mean htc wizard branded by i-mate...

it is an winmobile5 device and will be supported in the future. the release
that supports the new devices will be announced on this list...when i
understand everything correctly, this wont happen tomorrow.

am i right ken? :-)

> --- Urspr?ngliche Nachricht ---
> Von: Mike Deleon <miked916@mac.com>
> An: <missing-sync-winmobile-talk@lists.markspace.com>
> Betreff: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] Support for imate wizard?
> Datum: Sat, 8 Oct 2005 11:56:33 -0500
> 
> I just got an i-mate wizard and was wondering if this device planned to be
> supported in the future.  It's pretty new and I believe is a windows
> mobile 5 device.  Any help appreciated.
> 
> Mike
> 
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From miked916 at mac.com  Sat Oct  8 12:52:27 2005
From: miked916 at mac.com (Mike Deleon)
Date: Sat Oct  8 12:51:11 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] Re: Support for imate wizard?
Message-ID: <200510081951.j98JoqKb019440@mac.com>

Whoops.  Yeah.  I meant the htc wizard and imate kjam.  I can't wait for this device to be supported soon!  It's me treo 650 replacement!  

Mike

From daniel.beiderwieden at gmx.de  Sat Oct  8 13:26:45 2005
From: daniel.beiderwieden at gmx.de (Daniel Beiderwieden)
Date: Sat Oct  8 13:26:49 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] Re: Support for imate wizard?
In-Reply-To: <200510081951.j98JoqKb019440@mac.com>
References: <200510081951.j98JoqKb019440@mac.com>
Message-ID: <34CC4B07-3969-470D-BEE5-85A2BF0D011E@gmx.de>

send me ur treo, i never had a palm device... :-)

if you are looking for pocketmac as well, please check the demo  
first, i heard bad things about the claimed support for wm5...i mean  
it doesnt work properly...

when the release of version 2 os missingsync was announced i waited  
for it and think it was the best decision. its not free from bugs,  
but the main features are working without any problems now for me.

Am 08.10.2005 um 21:52 schrieb Mike Deleon:

> Whoops.  Yeah.  I meant the htc wizard and imate kjam.  I can't  
> wait for this device to be supported soon!  It's me treo 650  
> replacement!
>
> Mike
>
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From miked916 at mac.com  Sat Oct  8 16:28:18 2005
From: miked916 at mac.com (Mike Deleon)
Date: Sat Oct  8 16:28:23 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] Re: Support for imate wizard?
In-Reply-To: <200510081908.j98J6qFt012109@sparrow.markspace.com>
References: <200510081908.j98J6qFt012109@sparrow.markspace.com>
Message-ID: <BDEE09F8-9E87-4E27-987E-36BFB985F72D@mac.com>

Oh yeah!!  I'm sorry.  I meant HTC Wizard and iMate KJam.  I can't  
wait for this to be supported as it's my Treo 650 Killer device for  
me... Why would it happen tomorrow (even though you said it won't but  
I was wondering why there was even a chance??  maybe a slight  
chance?  :)  )

Are these types of devices supposed to be supported soon?

Mike

On Oct 8, 2005, at 2:08 PM, Daniel Beiderwieden wrote:

> From: "Daniel Beiderwieden" <daniel.beiderwieden@gmx.de>
> Subject: Re: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] Support for imate wizard?
> To: The Missing Sync for Windows Mobile Discussion List
>     <missing-sync-winmobile-talk@lists.markspace.com>
> Message-ID: <3237.1128791912@www16.gmx.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> u mean htc wizard branded by i-mate...
>
> it is an winmobile5 device and will be supported in the future. the  
> release
> that supports the new devices will be announced on this list...when i
> understand everything correctly, this wont happen tomorrow.
>
> am i right ken? :-)

From rtowry at ephrata.org  Sun Oct  9 17:58:23 2005
From: rtowry at ephrata.org (Ray Towry)
Date: Sun Oct  9 17:58:29 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] no award...
In-Reply-To: <27547.1128768790@www56.gmx.net>
References: <7EC5416B-ABCA-4D9F-8840-5C97D2C8636E@osteos.ch>
	<27547.1128768790@www56.gmx.net>
Message-ID: <BB6677B5-1C67-4122-AF70-737A85A9E8CE@ephrata.org>

I tried pcketmac first...it was total garbage and I got no support.   
They flat gave up on me, told me they had no clue and couldn't help  
me, so they offered a refund.


On Oct 8, 2005, at 3:53 AM, Daniel Beiderwieden wrote:

did you know that ms was nominated for the best software award at  
pocket pc
magazine?

...but it wont win this award, cause pocketmac is one of the finalist  
and
not ms...
i know this must be a mistake, but please keep up with a good and  
friendly
support to get this little bugs fixed...

NEXT YEAR I WANT TO HAVE AN AWARD FOR THIS PRODUCT! :-)

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From neto at bullet.com.br  Sun Oct  9 18:10:30 2005
From: neto at bullet.com.br (Neto)
Date: Sun Oct  9 18:10:51 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] no award...
In-Reply-To: <BB6677B5-1C67-4122-AF70-737A85A9E8CE@ephrata.org>
Message-ID: <BF6F45D6.197C1%neto@bullet.com.br>


I had almost the same experience with them. But they didn't offered any
refund until I demanded.




On 09/10/05 9:58 PM, "Ray Towry" :

> I tried pcketmac first...it was total garbage and I got no support.
> They flat gave up on me, told me they had no clue and couldn't help
> me, so they offered a refund.
> 
> 
> On Oct 8, 2005, at 3:53 AM, Daniel Beiderwieden wrote:
> 
> did you know that ms was nominated for the best software award at
> pocket pc
> magazine?
> 
> ...but it wont win this award, cause pocketmac is one of the finalist
> and
> not ms...
> i know this must be a mistake, but please keep up with a good and
> friendly
> support to get this little bugs fixed...
> 
> NEXT YEAR I WANT TO HAVE AN AWARD FOR THIS PRODUCT! :-)


From GabrielPress at aol.com  Mon Oct 10 08:54:28 2005
From: GabrielPress at aol.com (Tamara)
Date: Mon Oct 10 08:54:33 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] no award...
In-Reply-To: <BF6F45D6.197C1%neto@bullet.com.br>
References: <BF6F45D6.197C1%neto@bullet.com.br>
Message-ID: <06496BE9-D470-42D4-A45B-FBA6DCB07002@aol.com>

Same here ... and I was so disgusted I didn't bother demanding a  
refund, I just went over to missing sync ....
-- Tamara

On Oct 9, 2005, at 9:10 PM, Neto wrote:

>
> I had almost the same experience with them. But they didn't offered  
> any
> refund until I demanded.
>
>
>
>
> On 09/10/05 9:58 PM, "Ray Towry" :
>
>
>> I tried pcketmac first...it was total garbage and I got no support.
>> They flat gave up on me, told me they had no clue and couldn't help
>> me, so they offered a refund.
>>
>>
>> On Oct 8, 2005, at 3:53 AM, Daniel Beiderwieden wrote:
>>
>> did you know that ms was nominated for the best software award at
>> pocket pc
>> magazine?
>>
>> ...but it wont win this award, cause pocketmac is one of the finalist
>> and
>> not ms...
>> i know this must be a mistake, but please keep up with a good and
>> friendly
>> support to get this little bugs fixed...
>>
>> NEXT YEAR I WANT TO HAVE AN AWARD FOR THIS PRODUCT! :-)
>>
>
>
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From kfreeman at markspace.com  Mon Oct 10 09:00:21 2005
From: kfreeman at markspace.com (Ken Freeman)
Date: Mon Oct 10 09:00:31 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] MS can't find its own iCal
 plugin
In-Reply-To: <A8F5D16E-EA7F-46CD-A51A-A7031521E386@unr.edu>
Message-ID: <BF6FDE25.F8BA%kfreeman@markspace.com>

Please submit a support request using the form at
<http://www.markspace.com/support/request_windowsmobile.html>. Be sure to
include a backup of your iCal data and complete log.

It looks as if a specific appointment is being rejected by the device and
that may be causing the disconnect. If we can duplicate the problem in house
I'm confident we can fix it.

Ken

On 10/7/05 4:16 PM, "Guy A. Hoelzer" <hoelzer@unr.edu> wrote:

> 
> On Oct 7, 2005, at 11:55 AM, Ken Freeman wrote:
> 
>> Sounds like it might be a rights issue trying to open the plugin.
>> Have you
>> tried to reinstall or use the Disk Utility to repair permissions?
>> 
>> I have not seen this error before.
> 
> Thanks Ken.  Repairing permissions had no effect, but reinstalling
> changed made this particular error go away.  Of course, I still can't
> sync iCal with my pda.  The relevant part of the log now reports the
> following:
> 
> 10/7/05 13:54:29  Monitor:  sendAckObjectId Appointment, oid = 151002664
> 10/7/05 13:54:29  Listener:  willDisconnectWithError
> 10/7/05 13:54:29  MSUI:  iCal: setStatusString string=Deleting Events
> record 1 from device
> 10/7/05 13:54:29  Listener:  Socket will disconnect. Error domain 1,
> code 54 (Connection reset by peer).
> 10/7/05 13:54:29  Monitor:  sendAckObjectId Appointment, oid = 50339000
> 10/7/05 13:54:29  Monitor:  sendAckObjectId Appointment, oid = 0
> 10/7/05 13:54:29  Monitor:  sendAckObjectId Appointment, oid = 0
> 10/7/05 13:54:29  MSUI:  iCal: setStatusString string=Deleting Events
> record 2 from device
> 10/7/05 13:54:29  Monitor:  Socket will disconnect. Error domain 1,
> code 54 (Connection reset by peer).
> 10/7/05 13:54:29  MSUI:  iCal: setStatusString string=Cleaning up
> 10/7/05 13:54:30  Listener:  in close
> 10/7/05 13:54:30  Monitor:  forgetDevice  rraServer:3935632
> 10/7/05 13:54:30  Monitor:  releasing RRAServer
> 10/7/05 13:54:30  MSUI:  disconnect
> 10/7/05 13:54:30  Monitor:  usb: finished relaying
> 10/7/05 13:54:30  Monitor:  Internet Sharing de-prep: 5
> 10/7/05 13:54:30  Monitor:  usb: deactivateCheckForSharingPreferences
> 10/7/05 13:54:30  Monitor:  usb: killing pppd: pid 239
> 10/7/05 13:54:30  Listener:  In cancel
> 10/7/05 13:54:30  Monitor:  forgetDevice  rraServer:0
> 10/7/05 13:54:46  MSUI:  disconnect
> 
> It looks like MS keeps trying to do something that is rejected by my
> pda, ultimately leading to disconnection.  Do you have another gem of
> a solution?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Guy Hoelzer
> Department of Biology
> University of Nevada Reno
> Reno, NV  89557
> 
> Phone:  775-784-4860
> Fax:  775-784-1302
> 
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From andreas at pardeike.net  Mon Oct 10 09:05:33 2005
From: andreas at pardeike.net (Andreas Pardeike)
Date: Mon Oct 10 09:06:02 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] no award...
In-Reply-To: <06496BE9-D470-42D4-A45B-FBA6DCB07002@aol.com>
References: <BF6F45D6.197C1%neto@bullet.com.br>
	<06496BE9-D470-42D4-A45B-FBA6DCB07002@aol.com>
Message-ID: <2437BC61-F08F-40A7-81E7-5ED1BD67B19A@pardeike.net>

On 10 okt 2005, at 17.54, Tamara wrote:


> Same here ... and I was so disgusted I didn't bother demanding a  
> refund, I just went over to missing sync ....
> -- Tamara
>

You shouldn't. I was very tempted to forget about it too (I am a nice  
guy)
but this just encourages their style. So I went for a three liner  
email and
got a no questions asked refund. Pretty much the only positive thing you
could say about them.

Andreas

From kfreeman at markspace.com  Mon Oct 10 09:39:21 2005
From: kfreeman at markspace.com (Ken Freeman)
Date: Mon Oct 10 09:39:28 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] bluetooth
In-Reply-To: <25733.1128762937@www19.gmx.net>
Message-ID: <BF6FE749.F8C6%kfreeman@markspace.com>

We only document and support Bluetooth synchronization with the integrated
Bluetooth Manager software in Windows Mobile (chapter 4 in the User Guide).
As mentioned in the User Guide, if your device uses some other Bluetooth
hardware and software it may not work the same.

Ken


On 10/8/05 2:15 AM, "Daniel Beiderwieden" <daniel.beiderwieden@gmx.de>
wrote:

>> --- Urspr?ngliche Nachricht ---
>> Von: Pierre <pierre.bed@osteos.ch>
>> An: The Missing Sync for Windows Mobile Discussion
>> List <missing-sync-winmobile-talk@lists.markspace.com>
>> Betreff: Re: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] bluetooth
>> Datum: Sat, 8 Oct 2005 10:34:51 +0200
>> 
>> On 10/6/05 6:33 AM, "Daniel Beiderwieden" <daniel.beiderwieden@gmx.de>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> i took the time to try to get my mda compact synced via
>>> bluetooth...it doesnt work
>>> 
>>> i watched the how-to and ended up with not having an bluetooth
>>> manager....
>>> 
>> 
>> Not sure what you mean by not having a Bluetooth Manager? The Bluetooth
>> Manager on my device often will not open. I have to do a soft reset
>> of the
>> device to get the Bluetooth Manager. I don't think this has anything
>> to do
>> with the Missing Sync, but it makes connecting or pairing a pain.
>> 
> 
> not having a bluetooth-manager means i dont have a software called
> bluetooth-manager!
> here you can see the differences having a B-M or not:
> http://www.sotmysoft.de/MDAII_XPSP2_Bluetooth.htm
> and with B-M
> http://www.sotmysoft.de/iPAQ3970_Widcomm_Bluetooth_.htm
> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> then i just tried to pair the device and pairing works...but thats
>>> all. no sync, nothing.
>>> 
>> 
>> Did you initiate the pairing from the Mac or the device. For some
> 
> i did the pairing from the mda compact
> 
>> reason it
>> is best to initiate the pairing from the phone using the Connection
>> Wizard
>> in the Bluetooth Manager. There is a specific "ActiveSync via Bleutooth"
>> wizard. Smartphone's don't have the same type of wizard but you can
> 
> mda compacts also dont have this wizard...
> 
>> initiate
>> the pairing from Start > Settings > Bluetooth. Some Smartphones also
>> have a
>> "Setup BT ActiveSync" option in the ActiveSync menu.
>> 
>> The tips for clearing up any remaining Bluetooth connection problems
>> are:
>> 
>> - Disable any firewalls, or open ports 5678 and 5679.
> 
> firewall is not active on the mac
> 
>> 
>> - If the device has both WiFi and Bluetooth, disable WiFi when trying to
>> Bleutooth sync.
> 
> device=mda? mda has no wifi
> 
>> 
>> - In the Bluetooth preferences on the Mac, select the sharing tab, then
>> select "Bluetooth-PDA-Sync" and try switching the type from "Modem to
>> RS-232."
> 
> there is bluetooth-pda-sync to select in the options...there is just a
> "dienst zu seriellem anschluss hinzuf?gen", which will cause a SerialPort-1.
> i did have this serialport active by the way...
> 
> when i choose my device at the devices-tab (ger?te) i have the opportunity
> to edit ports (anschl?sse bearbeiten)... i activated the com4 as rs-232
> 
>> 
>> - Make sure you have Bluetooth enabled in the Missing Sync preferences
>> 
>> - If your Mac is not currently connected to the Internet, try
>> connecting to
>> the Internet and then connect via Bluetooth.
>> 
>> Ken
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> can i please get a step by step to get this thing to work...what do i
>>> have to change on the ibook/mda???
>>> _______________________________________________
> 
> is there any chance to get this to work? have you ever tried any device
> without bluetooth-manager before announcing to support bluetooth-sync?
> i never got my qtek 8010 to sync via bt and now have problems with the mda
> too....thats not really a good support for this function...
> 
> well, maybe the device is the problem. can anyone please check if a htc
> magician or himalaya is able to work with bt?



From kfreeman at markspace.com  Mon Oct 10 09:42:55 2005
From: kfreeman at markspace.com (Ken Freeman)
Date: Mon Oct 10 09:43:01 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] bluetooth
In-Reply-To: <7C227DFC-7AB6-49B7-965B-FE433A3761B0@osteos.ch>
Message-ID: <BF6FE81F.F8C7%kfreeman@markspace.com>

Do I understand that you can sometimes get your Qtek s100 to sync via
Bluetooth, and this device does NOT have the Bluetooth Manager software?

If so, please explain to other users how you have the device configured.

Thanks!
Ken


On 10/8/05 3:53 AM, "Pierre" <pierre.bed@osteos.ch> wrote:

> Hi,
> I have exactly the same problem with my Qtek s100 (HTC magician) BT
> sync doesn't work (or sometimes do?!)  and Missing Sync assistance
> never found the way to fix it?!!
> 
> PB
> 
> 
> Le 8 oct. 05 ? 11:15, Daniel Beiderwieden a ?crit :
> 
>>> --- Urspr?ngliche Nachricht ---
>>> Von: Pierre <pierre.bed@osteos.ch>
>>> An: The Missing Sync for Windows Mobile Discussion
>>> List    <missing-sync-winmobile-talk@lists.markspace.com>
>>> Betreff: Re: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] bluetooth
>>> Datum: Sat, 8 Oct 2005 10:34:51 +0200
>>> 
>>> On 10/6/05 6:33 AM, "Daniel Beiderwieden"
>>> <daniel.beiderwieden@gmx.de>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> i took the time to try to get my mda compact synced via
>>>> bluetooth...it doesnt work
>>>> 
>>>> i watched the how-to and ended up with not having an bluetooth
>>>> manager....
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Not sure what you mean by not having a Bluetooth Manager? The
>>> Bluetooth
>>> Manager on my device often will not open. I have to do a soft reset
>>> of the
>>> device to get the Bluetooth Manager. I don't think this has anything
>>> to do
>>> with the Missing Sync, but it makes connecting or pairing a pain.
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> not having a bluetooth-manager means i dont have a software called
>> bluetooth-manager!
>> here you can see the differences having a B-M or not:
>> http://www.sotmysoft.de/MDAII_XPSP2_Bluetooth.htm
>> and with B-M
>> http://www.sotmysoft.de/iPAQ3970_Widcomm_Bluetooth_.htm
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> then i just tried to pair the device and pairing works...but thats
>>>> all. no sync, nothing.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Did you initiate the pairing from the Mac or the device. For some
>>> 
>> 
>> i did the pairing from the mda compact
>> 
>> 
>>> reason it
>>> is best to initiate the pairing from the phone using the Connection
>>> Wizard
>>> in the Bluetooth Manager. There is a specific "ActiveSync via
>>> Bleutooth"
>>> wizard. Smartphone's don't have the same type of wizard but you can
>>> 
>> 
>> mda compacts also dont have this wizard...
>> 
>> 
>>> initiate
>>> the pairing from Start > Settings > Bluetooth. Some Smartphones also
>>> have a
>>> "Setup BT ActiveSync" option in the ActiveSync menu.
>>> 
>>> The tips for clearing up any remaining Bluetooth connection problems
>>> are:
>>> 
>>> - Disable any firewalls, or open ports 5678 and 5679.
>>> 
>> 
>> firewall is not active on the mac
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> - If the device has both WiFi and Bluetooth, disable WiFi when
>>> trying to
>>> Bleutooth sync.
>>> 
>> 
>> device=mda? mda has no wifi
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> - In the Bluetooth preferences on the Mac, select the sharing tab,
>>> then
>>> select "Bluetooth-PDA-Sync" and try switching the type from "Modem to
>>> RS-232."
>>> 
>> 
>> there is bluetooth-pda-sync to select in the options...there is just a
>> "dienst zu seriellem anschluss hinzuf?gen", which will cause a
>> SerialPort-1.
>> i did have this serialport active by the way...
>> 
>> when i choose my device at the devices-tab (ger?te) i have the
>> opportunity
>> to edit ports (anschl?sse bearbeiten)... i activated the com4 as
>> rs-232
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> - Make sure you have Bluetooth enabled in the Missing Sync
>>> preferences
>>> 
>>> - If your Mac is not currently connected to the Internet, try
>>> connecting to
>>> the Internet and then connect via Bluetooth.
>>> 
>>> Ken
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> can i please get a step by step to get this thing to work...what
>>>> do i
>>>> have to change on the ibook/mda???
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> 
>> 
>> is there any chance to get this to work? have you ever tried any
>> device
>> without bluetooth-manager before announcing to support bluetooth-sync?
>> i never got my qtek 8010 to sync via bt and now have problems with
>> the mda
>> too....thats not really a good support for this function...
>> 
>> well, maybe the device is the problem. can anyone please check if a
>> htc
>> magician or himalaya is able to work with bt?
>> 
>> -- 
>> Highspeed-Freiheit. Bei GMX superg?nstig, z.B. GMX DSL_Cityflat,
>> DSL-Flatrate f?r nur 4,99 Euro/Monat*  http://www.gmx.net/de/go/dsl
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>> talk
>> 
> 
> 
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From kfreeman at markspace.com  Tue Oct 11 16:41:29 2005
From: kfreeman at markspace.com (Ken Freeman)
Date: Tue Oct 11 16:41:32 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] Birthdays & Anniversary Syncing with
	Entourage SP2 Update
Message-ID: <BF719BB9.F9DE%kfreeman@markspace.com>

NOTE ABOUT MICROSOFT ENTOURAGE SP2 UPDATE: Birthdays and Anniversaries will
NOT sync correctly with the latest SP2 Entourage update. The date is often
changed to 11/30/1999 and/or added to records that had an anniversary
entered and no birthday. This is a bug in Entourage. We have reported it to
Microsoft. Birthdays and anniversaries will sync correctly using the SP1
version of Entourage (11.1.0). If you already upgraded to SP2, note that
your birthdays on the device will be incorrect. We are reviewing options and
will keep the list posted of any changes in this situation.

Ken


From kfreeman at markspace.com  Tue Oct 11 16:40:31 2005
From: kfreeman at markspace.com (Ken Freeman)
Date: Tue Oct 11 21:45:12 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] The Missing Sync for Windows Mobile
	v2.0.2b6 Now Available
Message-ID: <BF719B7F.F9DE%kfreeman@markspace.com>

A new BETA version of The Missing Sync for Windows Mobile, version 2.0.2b6
is available for download at www.markspace.com/testing. You can install the
2.0.2b6 version right over the current 2.0.x version.

The "Release Notes", viewable at www.markspace.com/testing, list problems
fixed with this build, and the "Known Problems" link lists a few known
problems and troubleshooting steps if you still get an error trying to sync
with this build.

NOTE ABOUT MICROSOFT ENTOURAGE SP2 UPDATE: Birthdays and Anniversaries will
NOT sync correctly with the latest SP2 Entourage update. The date is often
changed to 11/30/1999 and/or added to records that had an anniversary
entered and no birthday. This is a bug in Entourage. We have reported it to
Microsoft. Birthdays and anniversaries will sync correctly using the SP1
version of Entourage (11.1.0). If you already upgraded to SP2, note that
your birthdays on the device will be incorrect. We are reviewing options and
will keep the list posted of any changes in this situation.

We thank users for their patience and for sending us sample data files that
enabled us to reproduce and fix specific data problems that prevented some
users from being able to synchronize. Please continue to report any problems
and provide sample data.

Feedback
If you continue to have problems with this build, please use the "Leave
Feedback" link at www.markspace.com/testing/ to report the issue.

If you are NOT having synchronization problems, or do not feel comfortable
using a beta version, you may want to wait for the final 2.0.2 release. We
may make additional 2.0.2 BETA releases available. Note that the beta
version number includes the letter "b", followed by the sequential release
number of that beta build (e.g. 2.0.2b6 is the sixth beta release for
version 2.0.2).

Thanks!
The Mark/Space Beta Team


From jbg at qualcomm.com  Wed Oct 12 07:48:36 2005
From: jbg at qualcomm.com (Jeff Gehlhaar)
Date: Wed Oct 12 07:48:45 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] The Missing Sync for Windows
	Mobile v2.0.2b6 Now Available
In-Reply-To: <BF719B7F.F9DE%kfreeman@markspace.com>
Message-ID: <BF727054.193B6%jbg@qualcomm.com>

What is fixed in this version?

-- Jeff



On 10/11/05 4:40 PM, "Ken Freeman" <kfreeman@markspace.com> wrote:

> A new BETA version of The Missing Sync for Windows Mobile, version 2.0.2b6
> is available for download at www.markspace.com/testing. You can install the
> 2.0.2b6 version right over the current 2.0.x version.
> 
> The "Release Notes", viewable at www.markspace.com/testing, list problems
> fixed with this build, and the "Known Problems" link lists a few known
> problems and troubleshooting steps if you still get an error trying to sync
> with this build.
> 
> NOTE ABOUT MICROSOFT ENTOURAGE SP2 UPDATE: Birthdays and Anniversaries will
> NOT sync correctly with the latest SP2 Entourage update. The date is often
> changed to 11/30/1999 and/or added to records that had an anniversary
> entered and no birthday. This is a bug in Entourage. We have reported it to
> Microsoft. Birthdays and anniversaries will sync correctly using the SP1
> version of Entourage (11.1.0). If you already upgraded to SP2, note that
> your birthdays on the device will be incorrect. We are reviewing options and
> will keep the list posted of any changes in this situation.
> 
> We thank users for their patience and for sending us sample data files that
> enabled us to reproduce and fix specific data problems that prevented some
> users from being able to synchronize. Please continue to report any problems
> and provide sample data.
> 
> Feedback
> If you continue to have problems with this build, please use the "Leave
> Feedback" link at www.markspace.com/testing/ to report the issue.
> 
> If you are NOT having synchronization problems, or do not feel comfortable
> using a beta version, you may want to wait for the final 2.0.2 release. We
> may make additional 2.0.2 BETA releases available. Note that the beta
> version number includes the letter "b", followed by the sequential release
> number of that beta build (e.g. 2.0.2b6 is the sixth beta release for
> version 2.0.2).
> 
> Thanks!
> The Mark/Space Beta Team
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> missing-sync-winmobile-talk@lists.markspace.com
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From kfreeman at markspace.com  Wed Oct 12 08:50:26 2005
From: kfreeman at markspace.com (Ken Freeman)
Date: Wed Oct 12 08:50:30 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] The Missing Sync for Windows
	Mobile v2.0.2b6 Now Available
In-Reply-To: <BF727054.193B6%jbg@qualcomm.com>
Message-ID: <BF727ED2.FA29%kfreeman@markspace.com>

This build fixes specific issues with record types that are rejected by the
device. Usually such records are corrupt and may not even display in iCal or
Entourage, but are still part of the data and used to cause Missing Sync to
fail.

There were also fixes for improved synchronization of detached events. A
detached event is created when you have a series (e.g. Meeting every Friday)
and then you edit or delete just one occurrence. Under certain
circumstances, detached events and/or their parent event would cause a sync
error.

The "Release Notes" posted at www.markspace.com/testing list all the
changes.

I recommend all users upgrade to either the 2.0.2b6 or wait for the the
final 2.0.2.

Ken 


On 10/12/05 7:48 AM, "Jeff Gehlhaar" <jbg@qualcomm.com> wrote:

> What is fixed in this version?
> 
> -- Jeff
> 
> 
> 
> On 10/11/05 4:40 PM, "Ken Freeman" <kfreeman@markspace.com> wrote:
> 
>> A new BETA version of The Missing Sync for Windows Mobile, version 2.0.2b6
>> is available for download at www.markspace.com/testing. You can install the
>> 2.0.2b6 version right over the current 2.0.x version.
>> 
>> The "Release Notes", viewable at www.markspace.com/testing, list problems
>> fixed with this build, and the "Known Problems" link lists a few known
>> problems and troubleshooting steps if you still get an error trying to sync
>> with this build.
>> 
>> NOTE ABOUT MICROSOFT ENTOURAGE SP2 UPDATE: Birthdays and Anniversaries will
>> NOT sync correctly with the latest SP2 Entourage update. The date is often
>> changed to 11/30/1999 and/or added to records that had an anniversary
>> entered and no birthday. This is a bug in Entourage. We have reported it to
>> Microsoft. Birthdays and anniversaries will sync correctly using the SP1
>> version of Entourage (11.1.0). If you already upgraded to SP2, note that
>> your birthdays on the device will be incorrect. We are reviewing options and
>> will keep the list posted of any changes in this situation.
>> 
>> We thank users for their patience and for sending us sample data files that
>> enabled us to reproduce and fix specific data problems that prevented some
>> users from being able to synchronize. Please continue to report any problems
>> and provide sample data.
>> 
>> Feedback
>> If you continue to have problems with this build, please use the "Leave
>> Feedback" link at www.markspace.com/testing/ to report the issue.
>> 
>> If you are NOT having synchronization problems, or do not feel comfortable
>> using a beta version, you may want to wait for the final 2.0.2 release. We
>> may make additional 2.0.2 BETA releases available. Note that the beta
>> version number includes the letter "b", followed by the sequential release
>> number of that beta build (e.g. 2.0.2b6 is the sixth beta release for
>> version 2.0.2).
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> The Mark/Space Beta Team
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> missing-sync-winmobile-talk mailing list
>> missing-sync-winmobile-talk@lists.markspace.com
>> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found
>> at:
>> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-winmobile-talk
> 
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From daniel.beiderwieden at gmx.de  Wed Oct 12 14:12:22 2005
From: daniel.beiderwieden at gmx.de (Daniel Beiderwieden)
Date: Wed Oct 12 14:12:32 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] old pairings...
Message-ID: <AB4F2214-38A3-4BEF-8568-92DE61AB5C4F@gmx.de>

how can i delete old phones that i do not want to sync anymore?
i have a new device and want to delete tho old one...
i also gave my new device a new name and want to delete the data that  
is still  there for the old name...
From kfreeman at markspace.com  Wed Oct 12 15:59:26 2005
From: kfreeman at markspace.com (Ken Freeman)
Date: Wed Oct 12 15:59:31 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] old pairings...
In-Reply-To: <AB4F2214-38A3-4BEF-8568-92DE61AB5C4F@gmx.de>
Message-ID: <BF72E35E.FA8E%kfreeman@markspace.com>

On 10/12/05 2:12 PM, "Daniel Beiderwieden" <daniel.beiderwieden@gmx.de>
wrote:

> how can i delete old phones that i do not want to sync anymore?
> i have a new device and want to delete tho old one...

I assume you want to prevent the "Sync Reminder" dialog for this device. The
next time you get that dialog, notice the check box in the bottom left of
the dialog that will prevent the reminder for that specific device. Check
that, and that specific device reminder will never show again.

> i also gave my new device a new name and want to delete the data that
> is still  there for the old name...

The new device name should now be displaying when you are connected. There
is no other "data" for the old device that you need/want to delete. If you
want to prevent the Sync Reminder that was covered above.

Ken

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From pws2000 at gmx.net  Wed Oct 12 16:09:58 2005
From: pws2000 at gmx.net (pws2000@gmx.net)
Date: Wed Oct 12 16:09:58 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] bluetooth
In-Reply-To: <BF6FE81F.F8C7%kfreeman@markspace.com>
References: <BF6FE81F.F8C7%kfreeman@markspace.com>
Message-ID: <A28205CA-4F41-454B-963B-6ABF73C2B322@gmx.net>

I would also be interested in a step-by-step-guide, as I never  
managed to sync my t-mobile sda via bt.

thanks,

Peter

On 10.10.2005, at 18:42 pm, Ken Freeman wrote:

> Do I understand that you can sometimes get your Qtek s100 to sync via
> Bluetooth, and this device does NOT have the Bluetooth Manager  
> software?
>
> If so, please explain to other users how you have the device  
> configured.
>
> Thanks!
> Ken
>
>
> On 10/8/05 3:53 AM, "Pierre" <pierre.bed@osteos.ch> wrote:
>
>
>> Hi,
>> I have exactly the same problem with my Qtek s100 (HTC magician) BT
>> sync doesn't work (or sometimes do?!)  and Missing Sync assistance
>> never found the way to fix it?!!
>>
>> PB
>>
>>
>> Le 8 oct. 05 ? 11:15, Daniel Beiderwieden a ?crit :
>>
>>
>>>> --- Urspr?ngliche Nachricht ---
>>>> Von: Pierre <pierre.bed@osteos.ch>
>>>> An: The Missing Sync for Windows Mobile Discussion
>>>> List    <missing-sync-winmobile-talk@lists.markspace.com>
>>>> Betreff: Re: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] bluetooth
>>>> Datum: Sat, 8 Oct 2005 10:34:51 +0200
>>>>
>>>> On 10/6/05 6:33 AM, "Daniel Beiderwieden"
>>>> <daniel.beiderwieden@gmx.de>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> i took the time to try to get my mda compact synced via
>>>>> bluetooth...it doesnt work
>>>>>
>>>>> i watched the how-to and ended up with not having an bluetooth
>>>>> manager....
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Not sure what you mean by not having a Bluetooth Manager? The
>>>> Bluetooth
>>>> Manager on my device often will not open. I have to do a soft reset
>>>> of the
>>>> device to get the Bluetooth Manager. I don't think this has  
>>>> anything
>>>> to do
>>>> with the Missing Sync, but it makes connecting or pairing a pain.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> not having a bluetooth-manager means i dont have a software called
>>> bluetooth-manager!
>>> here you can see the differences having a B-M or not:
>>> http://www.sotmysoft.de/MDAII_XPSP2_Bluetooth.htm
>>> and with B-M
>>> http://www.sotmysoft.de/iPAQ3970_Widcomm_Bluetooth_.htm
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> then i just tried to pair the device and pairing works...but thats
>>>>> all. no sync, nothing.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Did you initiate the pairing from the Mac or the device. For some
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> i did the pairing from the mda compact
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> reason it
>>>> is best to initiate the pairing from the phone using the Connection
>>>> Wizard
>>>> in the Bluetooth Manager. There is a specific "ActiveSync via
>>>> Bleutooth"
>>>> wizard. Smartphone's don't have the same type of wizard but you can
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> mda compacts also dont have this wizard...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> initiate
>>>> the pairing from Start > Settings > Bluetooth. Some Smartphones  
>>>> also
>>>> have a
>>>> "Setup BT ActiveSync" option in the ActiveSync menu.
>>>>
>>>> The tips for clearing up any remaining Bluetooth connection  
>>>> problems
>>>> are:
>>>>
>>>> - Disable any firewalls, or open ports 5678 and 5679.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> firewall is not active on the mac
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> - If the device has both WiFi and Bluetooth, disable WiFi when
>>>> trying to
>>>> Bleutooth sync.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> device=mda? mda has no wifi
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> - In the Bluetooth preferences on the Mac, select the sharing tab,
>>>> then
>>>> select "Bluetooth-PDA-Sync" and try switching the type from  
>>>> "Modem to
>>>> RS-232."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> there is bluetooth-pda-sync to select in the options...there is  
>>> just a
>>> "dienst zu seriellem anschluss hinzuf?gen", which will cause a
>>> SerialPort-1.
>>> i did have this serialport active by the way...
>>>
>>> when i choose my device at the devices-tab (ger?te) i have the
>>> opportunity
>>> to edit ports (anschl?sse bearbeiten)... i activated the com4 as
>>> rs-232
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> - Make sure you have Bluetooth enabled in the Missing Sync
>>>> preferences
>>>>
>>>> - If your Mac is not currently connected to the Internet, try
>>>> connecting to
>>>> the Internet and then connect via Bluetooth.
>>>>
>>>> Ken
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> can i please get a step by step to get this thing to work...what
>>>>> do i
>>>>> have to change on the ibook/mda???
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>> is there any chance to get this to work? have you ever tried any
>>> device
>>> without bluetooth-manager before announcing to support bluetooth- 
>>> sync?
>>> i never got my qtek 8010 to sync via bt and now have problems with
>>> the mda
>>> too....thats not really a good support for this function...
>>>
>>> well, maybe the device is the problem. can anyone please check if a
>>> htc
>>> magician or himalaya is able to work with bt?
>>>
>>> -- 
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>>> DSL-Flatrate f?r nur 4,99 Euro/Monat*  http://www.gmx.net/de/go/dsl
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From daniel.beiderwieden at gmx.de  Wed Oct 12 21:43:20 2005
From: daniel.beiderwieden at gmx.de (Daniel Beiderwieden)
Date: Wed Oct 12 21:43:31 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] old pairings...
In-Reply-To: <BF72E35E.FA8E%kfreeman@markspace.com>
References: <BF72E35E.FA8E%kfreeman@markspace.com>
Message-ID: <EF52FC58-D979-4349-81F8-E88C8A4940C9@gmx.de>

i dont want to just kill the reminder. i want to delete all the  
depending data for the old devices. i also want to be able to use the  
name of my old device again...
if i kill the reminder for a device called Qtek8010 and i want to use  
this device-name later, will the reminder come back?
isn't there any possibility to delete old data?

Am 13.10.2005 um 00:59 schrieb Ken Freeman:

> On 10/12/05 2:12 PM, "Daniel Beiderwieden"  
> <daniel.beiderwieden@gmx.de>
> wrote:
>
>
>> how can i delete old phones that i do not want to sync anymore?
>> i have a new device and want to delete tho old one...
>>
>
> I assume you want to prevent the "Sync Reminder" dialog for this  
> device. The
> next time you get that dialog, notice the check box in the bottom  
> left of
> the dialog that will prevent the reminder for that specific device.  
> Check
> that, and that specific device reminder will never show again.
>
>
>> i also gave my new device a new name and want to delete the data that
>> is still  there for the old name...
>>
>
> The new device name should now be displaying when you are  
> connected. There
> is no other "data" for the old device that you need/want to delete.  
> If you
> want to prevent the Sync Reminder that was covered above.
>
> Ken
>
>
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From forum at miksys.de  Thu Oct 13 03:35:56 2005
From: forum at miksys.de (mattmiksys)
Date: Thu Oct 13 03:36:03 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] at the moment..
Message-ID: <A6441C0F-3022-41C1-9122-CE4C3C946938@miksys.de>

.. MS 2.06b seems to work more useable on my MDA III, although the  
old communication errors on every second sync are still present.

But after having corrected some recurrent calendar entries and some  
notices in my contacts, I could sync again and again without getting  
double or time shifted entries as in earlier versions (as far as I  
can see).

For the first time I got the correct "company"-checkboxes, if the  
contacts are read from the MDA.

hopefully again,
Matthias
From morten at dreier.no  Thu Oct 13 05:22:36 2005
From: morten at dreier.no (Morten Dreier)
Date: Thu Oct 13 05:23:07 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] old pairings...
In-Reply-To: <BF72E35E.FA8E%kfreeman@markspace.com>
References: <BF72E35E.FA8E%kfreeman@markspace.com>
Message-ID: <465A7DD7-1ADA-48C3-BC2B-9C353399537B@dreier.no>

On 13. okt. 2005, at 00.59, Ken Freeman wrote:

> On 10/12/05 2:12 PM, "Daniel Beiderwieden"  
> <daniel.beiderwieden@gmx.de>
> wrote:
>
>
>> how can i delete old phones that i do not want to sync anymore?
>> i have a new device and want to delete tho old one...
>>
>
> I assume you want to prevent the "Sync Reminder" dialog for this  
> device. The
> next time you get that dialog, notice the check box in the bottom  
> left of
> the dialog that will prevent the reminder for that specific device.  
> Check
> that, and that specific device reminder will never show again.
>
>
>> i also gave my new device a new name and want to delete the data that
>> is still  there for the old name...
>>
>
> The new device name should now be displaying when you are  
> connected. There
> is no other "data" for the old device that you need/want to delete.  
> If you
> want to prevent the Sync Reminder that was covered above.

I have the same problem - my iPaq was unused for some weeks, and went  
blank. I renamed it, and now i sometimes get a dialogue asking if I  
want to use the old name (which is erased) or the new one. Yesterday  
I accidentally chose the old name and now I don't dare sync the iPaq  
- not knowing what will happen to my data.
So: I want the oppotunity to get an interface to manage the  
previously used iPaqs and have the possibility to delete them.

-- 
morten dreier
http://morten.dreier.no/

From sstrippoli at mac.com  Thu Oct 13 06:37:10 2005
From: sstrippoli at mac.com (s.strippoli)
Date: Thu Oct 13 06:37:13 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] Re: Birthdays & Anniversary Syncing
	with Entourage SP2 Update
Message-ID: <8043554.1129210630712.JavaMail.sstrippoli@mac.com>

 
On Tuesday, October 11, 2005, at 07:46PM, Ken Freeman <kfreeman@markspace.com> wrote:

>NOTE ABOUT MICROSOFT ENTOURAGE SP2 UPDATE: Birthdays and Anniversaries will
>NOT sync correctly with the latest SP2 Entourage update. The date is often
>changed to 11/30/1999 and/or added to records that had an anniversary
>entered and no birthday. This is a bug in Entourage. We have reported it to
>Microsoft. Birthdays and anniversaries will sync correctly using the SP1
>version of Entourage (11.1.0). If you already upgraded to SP2, note that
>your birthdays on the device will be incorrect. We are reviewing options and
>will keep the list posted of any changes in this situation.
>
>Ken
>_______________________________________________
>


Ken -

when you write or report that Entourage SP2 has a bug,  similar to previously
  reporting that Entourage SDK had bugs - - - how do you distinquish that it
  is specifically an Entourage flaw.  

one difficulty for the end-user in first IDENTIFYING then RESOLVING sync issues
  is that their are several components involved:  
       the desktop PIM software,  
       the specfic handheld device,  
       the devices OS,  and 
       the sync software or conduit being used.

one company reports & assures the problem is NOT with their product, and so
   must be the other company's  and  vice versa.

  
you may be convinced, and maybe right, that the problem is the desktop PIM.
however, i spent considerable time with MS support (both for Data Services & Entourage)
   because of failed sync's with MSWM-2.  i advised them mark/space had reported
   bugs or anomalies with creation of certain calendar events in Entourage that
   impedes or corrupts syncs.  they respond that they can't be certain how 
   good or bad third-party software processes & handles the data.  

they noted that the data functions satisfactorily on the desktop, AND
   syncs properly with other software so . . . they can't conclude that the problem
   is neccessarily theirs but may in fact be "related to the way MSWM handles info".

again, i pose this question not specifically just about SP2 but also about 
   past reported "Entourage SDK bugs" in writing events also.


   sabino
.
.
From kfreeman at markspace.com  Thu Oct 13 10:04:14 2005
From: kfreeman at markspace.com (Ken Freeman)
Date: Thu Oct 13 10:04:17 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] old pairings...
In-Reply-To: <EF52FC58-D979-4349-81F8-E88C8A4940C9@gmx.de>
Message-ID: <BF73E19E.FAF3%kfreeman@markspace.com>

On 10/12/05 9:43 PM, "Daniel Beiderwieden" <daniel.beiderwieden@gmx.de>
wrote:

> i dont want to just kill the reminder. i want to delete all the
> depending data for the old devices.

The only data we sync with and is stored on the Mac is the Sync Service
(iCal and Address Book) or Entourage data. We do make a backup of the
Entourage data that you could delete if you want. It is at
~/Library/Application Support/Missing Sync for Windows Mobile/Entourage
Data.

Other than that, there is no data for an old device to delete (at that was a
backup of what was in Entourage, not what was on the device).

> i also want to be able to use the
> name of my old device again...

You can reuse a device name again. If you do attempt to connect a new or
hard reset device with the same name you will get a dialog that allows you
to pick a new name or previously used name.

> if i kill the reminder for a device called Qtek8010 and i want to use
> this device-name later, will the reminder come back?

Good question? I'm not sure. I'll have to try that.

> isn't there any possibility to delete old data?

For PIM data (contacts, events, tasks, etc.) there is no need. We sync with
either Sync Services or Entourage, and I don't think you want to delete that
data.

If you are talking about device name data, there is a plist with the device
names. We would rather not have most users poking around in the plist file,
but you can remove old device names from the plist if you really wanted to.

Hopefully I've answered your questions.

Ken

> 
> Am 13.10.2005 um 00:59 schrieb Ken Freeman:
> 
>> On 10/12/05 2:12 PM, "Daniel Beiderwieden"
>> <daniel.beiderwieden@gmx.de>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> how can i delete old phones that i do not want to sync anymore?
>>> i have a new device and want to delete tho old one...
>>> 
>> 
>> I assume you want to prevent the "Sync Reminder" dialog for this
>> device. The
>> next time you get that dialog, notice the check box in the bottom
>> left of
>> the dialog that will prevent the reminder for that specific device.
>> Check
>> that, and that specific device reminder will never show again.
>> 
>> 
>>> i also gave my new device a new name and want to delete the data that
>>> is still  there for the old name...
>>> 
>> 
>> The new device name should now be displaying when you are
>> connected. There
>> is no other "data" for the old device that you need/want to delete.
>> If you
>> want to prevent the Sync Reminder that was covered above.
>> 
>> Ken
>> 
>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
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From kfreeman at markspace.com  Thu Oct 13 10:08:31 2005
From: kfreeman at markspace.com (Ken Freeman)
Date: Thu Oct 13 10:08:34 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] Re: Birthdays & Anniversary
	Syncing with Entourage SP2 Update
In-Reply-To: <8043554.1129210630712.JavaMail.sstrippoli@mac.com>
Message-ID: <BF73E29F.FAF4%kfreeman@markspace.com>

On 10/13/05 6:37 AM, "s.strippoli" <sstrippoli@mac.com> wrote:

>  
> On Tuesday, October 11, 2005, at 07:46PM, Ken Freeman <kfreeman@markspace.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> NOTE ABOUT MICROSOFT ENTOURAGE SP2 UPDATE: Birthdays and Anniversaries will
>> NOT sync correctly with the latest SP2 Entourage update. The date is often
>> changed to 11/30/1999 and/or added to records that had an anniversary
>> entered and no birthday. This is a bug in Entourage. We have reported it to
>> Microsoft. Birthdays and anniversaries will sync correctly using the SP1
>> version of Entourage (11.1.0). If you already upgraded to SP2, note that
>> your birthdays on the device will be incorrect. We are reviewing options and
>> will keep the list posted of any changes in this situation.
>> 
>> Ken
>> _______________________________________________
>> 
> 
> 
> Ken -
> 
> when you write or report that Entourage SP2 has a bug,  similar to previously
>   reporting that Entourage SDK had bugs - - - how do you distinquish that it
>   is specifically an Entourage flaw.

We know it is a bug with the Microsoft Entourage SDK because an engineer at
Microsoft has tested and confirmed it.

Ken

> 
> one difficulty for the end-user in first IDENTIFYING then RESOLVING sync
> issues
>   is that their are several components involved:
>        the desktop PIM software,
>        the specfic handheld device,
>        the devices OS,  and
>        the sync software or conduit being used.
> 
> one company reports & assures the problem is NOT with their product, and so
>    must be the other company's  and  vice versa.
> 
>   
> you may be convinced, and maybe right, that the problem is the desktop PIM.
> however, i spent considerable time with MS support (both for Data Services &
> Entourage)
>    because of failed sync's with MSWM-2.  i advised them mark/space had
> reported
>    bugs or anomalies with creation of certain calendar events in Entourage
> that
>    impedes or corrupts syncs.  they respond that they can't be certain how
>    good or bad third-party software processes & handles the data.
> 
> they noted that the data functions satisfactorily on the desktop, AND
>    syncs properly with other software so . . . they can't conclude that the
> problem
>    is neccessarily theirs but may in fact be "related to the way MSWM handles
> info".
> 
> again, i pose this question not specifically just about SP2 but also about
>    past reported "Entourage SDK bugs" in writing events also.
> 
> 
>    sabino
> .
> .
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From daniel.beiderwieden at gmx.de  Thu Oct 13 11:34:26 2005
From: daniel.beiderwieden at gmx.de (Daniel Beiderwieden)
Date: Thu Oct 13 11:34:31 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] old pairings...
In-Reply-To: <BF73E19E.FAF3%kfreeman@markspace.com>
References: <BF73E19E.FAF3%kfreeman@markspace.com>
Message-ID: <D27993C1-7A67-4D69-9EE7-3EC6DA6F5ACE@gmx.de>

aha, an plist...i'll check that.

it's just because i want to have the total controll over my  
soft....and don't want to have old data that i wont need anymore.  
especially the known devices, because in the moment my smartphone is  
used by a friend of mine and when i get it back i wan't to have all  
fresh and clean

thx, daniel

Am 13.10.2005 um 19:04 schrieb Ken Freeman:

> On 10/12/05 9:43 PM, "Daniel Beiderwieden"  
> <daniel.beiderwieden@gmx.de>
> wrote:
>
>
>> i dont want to just kill the reminder. i want to delete all the
>> depending data for the old devices.
>>
>
> The only data we sync with and is stored on the Mac is the Sync  
> Service
> (iCal and Address Book) or Entourage data. We do make a backup of the
> Entourage data that you could delete if you want. It is at
> ~/Library/Application Support/Missing Sync for Windows Mobile/ 
> Entourage
> Data.
>
> Other than that, there is no data for an old device to delete (at  
> that was a
> backup of what was in Entourage, not what was on the device).
>
>
>> i also want to be able to use the
>> name of my old device again...
>>
>
> You can reuse a device name again. If you do attempt to connect a  
> new or
> hard reset device with the same name you will get a dialog that  
> allows you
> to pick a new name or previously used name.
>
>
>> if i kill the reminder for a device called Qtek8010 and i want to use
>> this device-name later, will the reminder come back?
>>
>
> Good question? I'm not sure. I'll have to try that.
>
>
>> isn't there any possibility to delete old data?
>>
>
> For PIM data (contacts, events, tasks, etc.) there is no need. We  
> sync with
> either Sync Services or Entourage, and I don't think you want to  
> delete that
> data.
>
> If you are talking about device name data, there is a plist with  
> the device
> names. We would rather not have most users poking around in the  
> plist file,
> but you can remove old device names from the plist if you really  
> wanted to.
>
> Hopefully I've answered your questions.
>
> Ken
>
>
>>
>> Am 13.10.2005 um 00:59 schrieb Ken Freeman:
>>
>>
>>> On 10/12/05 2:12 PM, "Daniel Beiderwieden"
>>> <daniel.beiderwieden@gmx.de>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> how can i delete old phones that i do not want to sync anymore?
>>>> i have a new device and want to delete tho old one...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> I assume you want to prevent the "Sync Reminder" dialog for this
>>> device. The
>>> next time you get that dialog, notice the check box in the bottom
>>> left of
>>> the dialog that will prevent the reminder for that specific device.
>>> Check
>>> that, and that specific device reminder will never show again.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> i also gave my new device a new name and want to delete the data  
>>>> that
>>>> is still  there for the old name...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> The new device name should now be displaying when you are
>>> connected. There
>>> is no other "data" for the old device that you need/want to delete.
>>> If you
>>> want to prevent the Sync Reminder that was covered above.
>>>
>>> Ken
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
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From oyvind.andersen at ntnu.no  Thu Oct 13 12:06:20 2005
From: oyvind.andersen at ntnu.no (=?ISO-8859-1?B?2A==?=yvind Andersen)
Date: Thu Oct 13 12:06:53 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] unsubcribing
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From sstrippoli at mac.com  Thu Oct 13 16:58:52 2005
From: sstrippoli at mac.com (s.strippoli)
Date: Thu Oct 13 16:58:54 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] Re: Birthdays & Anniversary Syncing
	with Entourage SP2 Update
Message-ID: <2444324.1129247932242.JavaMail.sstrippoli@mac.com>

 
On Thursday, October 13, 2005, at 01:27PM, Ken Freeman <kfreeman@markspace.com> wrote: 
>> 
>> Ken -
>> 
>> when you write or report that Entourage SP2 has a bug,  similar to previously
>>   reporting that Entourage SDK had bugs - - - how do you distinquish that it
>>   is specifically an Entourage flaw.

    > We know it is a bug with the Microsoft Entourage SDK because an engineer at
    >  Microsoft has tested and confirmed it.

    > Ken

I have no reason to question the integrity or accuracy of your statement.  nonetheless,
is there some Report or Problem ID # that I can reference or cite when speaking with 
   Microsoft Tech support so they can verify this ?  Even the Escalated Support techs,  
   were not aware of nor had heard of the SDK bugs you referenced previously (prior to SP2).  
Furthermore, searching the knowledge base yields no articles or mention of known Entourage 
   calendar event problems of the types discussed on this list earlier.

- - - - - - - - - - - - - 


>> one company reports & assures the problem is NOT with their product, and so
>>    must be the other company's  and  vice versa.


>> . . . they (MS) noted that the data functions satisfactorily on the desktop, AND
>>    syncs properly with OTHER software so . . . they can't conclude that the problem
>>    is neccessarily theirs but may in fact be "related to the way MSWM handles info".

Let me also note once again, when the MS techs point out that Entourage data is able 
   to sync with some devices using other conduits.  It leaves me standing there 
   feeling awkward, foolish and at a loss to respond.

At the risk of having you feeling frustrated by my persistent comments,
  I just have to openly & frankly share with you what it is like from 
  the consumer's experience;  having paid for software in good faith and then  
  being directed back & forth with no one really owning the problem,  
  and so .... it ends up being the consumer's problem by default.


   sabino
.
.
.
.



From kfreeman at markspace.com  Thu Oct 13 23:32:18 2005
From: kfreeman at markspace.com (Ken Freeman)
Date: Thu Oct 13 23:32:21 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] Re: Birthdays & Anniversary
	Syncing with Entourage SP2 Update
In-Reply-To: <2444324.1129247932242.JavaMail.sstrippoli@mac.com>
Message-ID: <BF749F02.FB4B%kfreeman@markspace.com>

Your questions are legitimate. I don't have a Problem ID to reference. Our
communication has been via email. The easiest way to verify the bug is to
sync with SP1 and the birthday's will sync. Then upgrade to SP2 and the
birthdays will sync incorrectly. All with the same version of the Missing
Sync.

It could be true that birthdays sync with some other sync products because
they don't use the Entourage SDK.

One solution we are looking at is to use AppleScripts to get the real
birthday information to avoid the SDK bug. I do not know if we will be
successful yet in this effort, or how soon we might know.

Ken


On 10/13/05 4:58 PM, "s.strippoli" <sstrippoli@mac.com> wrote:

>  
> On Thursday, October 13, 2005, at 01:27PM, Ken Freeman
> <kfreeman@markspace.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ken -
>>> 
>>> when you write or report that Entourage SP2 has a bug,  similar to
>>> previously
>>>   reporting that Entourage SDK had bugs - - - how do you distinquish that it
>>>   is specifically an Entourage flaw.
> 
>> We know it is a bug with the Microsoft Entourage SDK because an engineer at
>>  Microsoft has tested and confirmed it.
> 
>> Ken
> 
> I have no reason to question the integrity or accuracy of your statement.
> nonetheless,
> is there some Report or Problem ID # that I can reference or cite when
> speaking with 
>    Microsoft Tech support so they can verify this ?  Even the Escalated
> Support techs,  
>    were not aware of nor had heard of the SDK bugs you referenced previously
> (prior to SP2).  
> Furthermore, searching the knowledge base yields no articles or mention of
> known Entourage 
>    calendar event problems of the types discussed on this list earlier.
> 
> - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> 
> 
>>> one company reports & assures the problem is NOT with their product, and so
>>>    must be the other company's  and  vice versa.
> 
> 
>>> . . . they (MS) noted that the data functions satisfactorily on the desktop,
>>> AND
>>>    syncs properly with OTHER software so . . . they can't conclude that the
>>> problem
>>>    is neccessarily theirs but may in fact be "related to the way MSWM
>>> handles info".
> 
> Let me also note once again, when the MS techs point out that Entourage data
> is able 
>    to sync with some devices using other conduits.  It leaves me standing
> there 
>    feeling awkward, foolish and at a loss to respond.
> 
> At the risk of having you feeling frustrated by my persistent comments,
>   I just have to openly & frankly share with you what it is like from
>   the consumer's experience;  having paid for software in good faith and then
>   being directed back & forth with no one really owning the problem,
>   and so .... it ends up being the consumer's problem by default.
> 
> 
>    sabino
> .
> .
> .
> .
> 
> 
> 
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From trent at sickchilly.com  Fri Oct 14 07:38:44 2005
From: trent at sickchilly.com (Trent Wagner)
Date: Fri Oct 14 07:38:57 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] Re: Birthdays & Anniversary
	Syncing with Entourage SP2 Update
In-Reply-To: <BF749F02.FB4B%kfreeman@markspace.com>
Message-ID: <BF751104.8E3%trent@sickchilly.com>

I've been reading these threads and wondering why I don't have this problem.
I just realized that I do not enter birthdays on the contact cards
themselves. I just set up recurring events on the calendar just like any
other appointment. I did this because it's easier to transfer between
programs and syncs more reliably between different programs and devices.

Often times, using "custom" fields on contacts is more trouble than it's
worth when you're trying to be as compatible and as complete as possible
when syncing amongst multiple programs, devices, and platforms.

Just FYI, if my solution will work for anyone else in light of this bug.

-T


On 10/13/2005 11:32 PM, "Ken Freeman" <kfreeman@markspace.com> wrote:

> Your questions are legitimate. I don't have a Problem ID to reference. Our
> communication has been via email. The easiest way to verify the bug is to
> sync with SP1 and the birthday's will sync. Then upgrade to SP2 and the
> birthdays will sync incorrectly. All with the same version of the Missing
> Sync.
> 
> It could be true that birthdays sync with some other sync products because
> they don't use the Entourage SDK.
> 
> One solution we are looking at is to use AppleScripts to get the real
> birthday information to avoid the SDK bug. I do not know if we will be
> successful yet in this effort, or how soon we might know.
> 
> Ken
> 
> 
> On 10/13/05 4:58 PM, "s.strippoli" <sstrippoli@mac.com> wrote:
> 
>>  
>> On Thursday, October 13, 2005, at 01:27PM, Ken Freeman
>> <kfreeman@markspace.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Ken -
>>>> 
>>>> when you write or report that Entourage SP2 has a bug,  similar to
>>>> previously
>>>>   reporting that Entourage SDK had bugs - - - how do you distinquish that
>>>> it
>>>>   is specifically an Entourage flaw.
>> 
>>> We know it is a bug with the Microsoft Entourage SDK because an engineer at
>>>  Microsoft has tested and confirmed it.
>> 
>>> Ken
>> 
>> I have no reason to question the integrity or accuracy of your statement.
>> nonetheless,
>> is there some Report or Problem ID # that I can reference or cite when
>> speaking with 
>>    Microsoft Tech support so they can verify this ?  Even the Escalated
>> Support techs,  
>>    were not aware of nor had heard of the SDK bugs you referenced previously
>> (prior to SP2). 
>> Furthermore, searching the knowledge base yields no articles or mention of
>> known Entourage 
>>    calendar event problems of the types discussed on this list earlier.
>> 
>> - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>> 
>> 
>>>> one company reports & assures the problem is NOT with their product, and so
>>>>    must be the other company's  and  vice versa.
>> 
>> 
>>>> . . . they (MS) noted that the data functions satisfactorily on the
>>>> desktop,
>>>> AND
>>>>    syncs properly with OTHER software so . . . they can't conclude that the
>>>> problem
>>>>    is neccessarily theirs but may in fact be "related to the way MSWM
>>>> handles info".
>> 
>> Let me also note once again, when the MS techs point out that Entourage data
>> is able 
>>    to sync with some devices using other conduits.  It leaves me standing
>> there 
>>    feeling awkward, foolish and at a loss to respond.
>> 
>> At the risk of having you feeling frustrated by my persistent comments,
>>   I just have to openly & frankly share with you what it is like from
>>   the consumer's experience;  having paid for software in good faith and then
>>   being directed back & forth with no one really owning the problem,
>>   and so .... it ends up being the consumer's problem by default.
>> 
>> 
>>    sabino
>> .
>> .
>> .
>> .
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>> at:
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> 
> 
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From sstrippoli at mac.com  Fri Oct 14 18:21:26 2005
From: sstrippoli at mac.com (s.strippoli)
Date: Fri Oct 14 18:21:30 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-winmobile-talk] Re: Birthdays & Anniversary
	Syncing with Entourage SP2 Update
In-Reply-To: <BF749F02.FB4B%kfreeman@markspace.com>
References: <BF749F02.FB4B%kfreeman@markspace.com>
Message-ID: <15517464.11