From plainsong at mac.com Mon May 2 00:28:18 2005 From: plainsong at mac.com (Kimberly Ruohio) Date: Sun May 1 13:28:34 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Paying to get it to Sync on Tiger In-Reply-To: <200505012011.j41KBHIB010645@penguin.markspace.com> References: <200505012011.j41KBHIB010645@penguin.markspace.com> Message-ID: <91FE728A-A73E-4F96-90B3-D895281CCB36@mac.com> I wouldn't paying for new features, but I can't abide paying for bug fixes. That's just unethical and their silence speaks volumes. The bugs that have been around since day one: (apparently for those not in their time zone) the handy feature of all day recurring events happening on all sorts of day except for the one it's supposed to. That adds some excitement. Bluetooth - I tried with a Loox, with a 2210, and with an imate jam. None would hold the connection. Now previously contacting tech support resulted in them blaming your computer (tried on an imac and ibook, the software failure was consistent) - but now they claim the bugs are fixed. How can this be if the bugs weren't there to begin with? ;) Oh right, they're using Poom now, which should have been the case from the start. Therefore, paying for a bugfix. Not cool. End of the day, the competing software works on Tiger as is, and there is a free update coming. Oh gee, wonder which one I'll stick with? ;) Kim On May 1, 2005, at 11:11 PM, missing-sync-pocketpc-talk- request@lists.markspace.com wrote: > Paying to get it to Sync on > Tiger > From mpersell at mac.com Sun May 1 17:31:27 2005 From: mpersell at mac.com (Michael Persell) Date: Sun May 1 14:31:39 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Paying to get it to Sync on Tiger In-Reply-To: <91FE728A-A73E-4F96-90B3-D895281CCB36@mac.com> References: <200505012011.j41KBHIB010645@penguin.markspace.com> <91FE728A-A73E-4F96-90B3-D895281CCB36@mac.com> Message-ID: I tried the competing software on Tiger and had kernel panics. Upgrade, clean install, archive... didn't matter, still kernel panic on boot. Remove the other software and no more kernel panics. I guess we wait....in a disorganized fashion. Mike On May 1, 2005, at 3:28 PM, Kimberly Ruohio wrote: > I wouldn't paying for new features, but I can't abide paying for > bug fixes. That's just unethical and their silence speaks volumes. > > The bugs that have been around since day one: (apparently for those > not in their time zone) the handy feature of all day recurring > events happening on all sorts of day except for the one it's > supposed to. That adds some excitement. Bluetooth - I tried with a > Loox, with a 2210, and with an imate jam. None would hold the > connection. > > Now previously contacting tech support resulted in them blaming > your computer (tried on an imac and ibook, the software failure was > consistent) - but now they claim the bugs are fixed. How can this > be if the bugs weren't there to begin with? ;) Oh right, they're > using Poom now, which should have been the case from the start. > > Therefore, paying for a bugfix. Not cool. > > End of the day, the competing software works on Tiger as is, and > there is a free update coming. Oh gee, wonder which one I'll stick > with? ;) > > Kim > > On May 1, 2005, at 11:11 PM, missing-sync-pocketpc-talk- > request@lists.markspace.com wrote: > > >> Paying to get it to Sync on >> Tiger >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives > can be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > From pcharles at chartermi.net Sun May 1 20:57:11 2005 From: pcharles at chartermi.net (Paul Charlesworth) Date: Sun May 1 16:57:19 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Paying to get it to Sync on Tiger In-Reply-To: <91FE728A-A73E-4F96-90B3-D895281CCB36@mac.com> References: <200505012011.j41KBHIB010645@penguin.markspace.com> <91FE728A-A73E-4F96-90B3-D895281CCB36@mac.com> Message-ID: <42756CD7.5070606@chartermi.net> Err! What? Kimberly Ruohio wrote: > I wouldn't paying for new features, but I can't abide paying for bug > fixes. That's just unethical and their silence speaks volumes. > > The bugs that have been around since day one: (apparently for those > not in their time zone) the handy feature of all day recurring events > happening on all sorts of day except for the one it's supposed to. > That adds some excitement. Bluetooth - I tried with a Loox, with a > 2210, and with an imate jam. None would hold the connection. > > Now previously contacting tech support resulted in them blaming your > computer (tried on an imac and ibook, the software failure was > consistent) - but now they claim the bugs are fixed. How can this be > if the bugs weren't there to begin with? ;) Oh right, they're using > Poom now, which should have been the case from the start. > > Therefore, paying for a bugfix. Not cool. > > End of the day, the competing software works on Tiger as is, and > there is a free update coming. Oh gee, wonder which one I'll stick > with? ;) > > Kim > > On May 1, 2005, at 11:11 PM, missing-sync-pocketpc-talk- > request@lists.markspace.com wrote: > >> Paying to get it to Sync on >> Tiger >> > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > From mpersell at mac.com Tue May 3 00:33:15 2005 From: mpersell at mac.com (Michael Persell) Date: Mon May 2 21:33:28 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Tiger - TMS and Pocketmac In-Reply-To: <8EC83170-0D82-4F66-BD74-34B7851151C1@mac.com> References: <200504292047.j3TKkwIB011135@penguin.markspace.com> <8EC83170-0D82-4F66-BD74-34B7851151C1@mac.com> Message-ID: <46BF4FC5-6E97-4949-A5BC-27F64C62C876@mac.com> Answer from the other software when reporting bugs with Tiger is below... "Thanks for reporting, we'll send out an email when the Tiger update is ready. Thank you," Not so done as we were led to believe. On Apr 29, 2005, at 8:40 PM, Kimberly Ruohio wrote: > Anyway, I don't reply much to this list, mainly because TMS hasn't > been what I hoped. It never did put recurring all-day appointments > on the correct day, and was just a PITA. Pocketmac has always > worked. I was dismayed to see what if you want to use TMS, you'll > have to pay for bug fixes. I say let us decide to pay for new > features, but paying for bug fixes will loose you customers, me > being one of them. > > Now then, to the point - the current v3.44 of Pocketmac is working > in Tiger. I can't speak for ical, but if you use Entourage > everything is golden. :D > > Kim > From rip at devco.net Tue May 3 09:28:02 2005 From: rip at devco.net (R.I.Pienaar) Date: Tue May 3 00:28:11 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Tiger - TMS and Pocketmac In-Reply-To: <46BF4FC5-6E97-4949-A5BC-27F64C62C876@mac.com> References: <200504292047.j3TKkwIB011135@penguin.markspace.com> <8EC83170-0D82-4F66-BD74-34B7851151C1@mac.com> <46BF4FC5-6E97-4949-A5BC-27F64C62C876@mac.com> Message-ID: <20050503072802.GD28709@devco.net> led to believe what? the website says: "Important 10.4 ("Tiger") Notice: Tiger Updates will be available on this page first or second week of May. They will be completely free to download." On Mon May 02, 2005 at 11:33:15PM -0500, Michael Persell wrote: > Answer from the other software when reporting bugs with Tiger is > below... > > "Thanks for reporting, we'll send out an email when the Tiger update > is ready. > Thank you," > > Not so done as we were led to believe. > > > > > On Apr 29, 2005, at 8:40 PM, Kimberly Ruohio wrote: > > >Anyway, I don't reply much to this list, mainly because TMS hasn't > >been what I hoped. It never did put recurring all-day appointments > >on the correct day, and was just a PITA. Pocketmac has always > >worked. I was dismayed to see what if you want to use TMS, you'll > >have to pay for bug fixes. I say let us decide to pay for new > >features, but paying for bug fixes will loose you customers, me > >being one of them. > > > >Now then, to the point - the current v3.44 of Pocketmac is working > >in Tiger. I can't speak for ical, but if you use Entourage > >everything is golden. :D > > > >Kim > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be > found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > -- R.I. Pienaar rip@devco.net http://www.devco.net/ "A Million Faces, Each A Million Lies" From mpersell at mac.com Tue May 3 10:38:21 2005 From: mpersell at mac.com (Michael Persell) Date: Tue May 3 07:38:37 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Tiger - TMS and Pocketmac In-Reply-To: <20050503072802.GD28709@devco.net> References: <200504292047.j3TKkwIB011135@penguin.markspace.com> <8EC83170-0D82-4F66-BD74-34B7851151C1@mac.com> <46BF4FC5-6E97-4949-A5BC-27F64C62C876@mac.com> <20050503072802.GD28709@devco.net> Message-ID: There were a couple of announcement like stories I've read that their spokesman touted the readiness. http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/zd/20050412/tc_zd/149841 On May 3, 2005, at 2:28 AM, R.I.Pienaar wrote: > led to believe what? the website says: > > "Important 10.4 ("Tiger") Notice: > Tiger Updates will be available on this page first or second week > of May. They > will be completely free to download." > > > On Mon May 02, 2005 at 11:33:15PM -0500, Michael Persell wrote: > >> Answer from the other software when reporting bugs with Tiger is >> below... >> >> "Thanks for reporting, we'll send out an email when the Tiger update >> is ready. >> Thank you," >> >> Not so done as we were led to believe. >> >> From jrosslee at technosmurfs.com Wed May 4 00:55:14 2005 From: jrosslee at technosmurfs.com (Joseph Ross Lee) Date: Tue May 3 08:55:28 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Paying to get it to Sync on Tiger In-Reply-To: <42743069.3080702@sethpalmer.com> References: <200504301901.j3UJ1NIB014708@penguin.markspace.com> <42743069.3080702@sethpalmer.com> Message-ID: Yeah. What's happening with support. There are lots of issues posted here and almost none where resolved. geesh. This is not good. I have to buy an upgade to fix the problems? I don't think its right to ask money from customers in exchange for fixing bugs!!! On 05 1, 05, at 9:27 AM, Seth Palmer wrote: > While I'm not thrilled with the prospect of having to pay, I am > appreciative of Mark Space's efforts and would gladly pay the $20 to > upgrade when it becomes available. We shouldn't be too harsh on niche > software developers like Mark Space -- they provide a valuable product > that is at reasonable cost. We got a PocketPC because we like the > platform. We have a Mac because we like the platform. We accept that > there are some additional costs involved. $20 seems minimal to me. And > truly worth it. I only hope Sidekick users will be just as pleased ... > and patient. > > > Joel McLaughlin wrote: > >> I also think it's crap too. I like that there's a new version, but >> considering that there has not been a patch for months, it makes me >> wonder. What I don't get is that the Danger one just came out and >> is already non functional and they get one for free, while us loyal >> PPC users have been socked with having to pay. I mean we do get a >> discount on the upgrade with is considerable. If I simply had what >> the original version used to do on Tiger, I would be happy. It's not >> like Mark/Space did not know it was coming. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com >> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can >> be found at: >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > > > -- Joseph Ross Lee http://www.technosmurfs.com http://www.udeko.com From bsillon at mac.com Tue May 3 20:00:25 2005 From: bsillon at mac.com (Bertrand SILLON) Date: Tue May 3 10:01:12 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Paying to get it to Sync on Tiger In-Reply-To: References: <200504301901.j3UJ1NIB014708@penguin.markspace.com> <42743069.3080702@sethpalmer.com> Message-ID: Agreed. On May 3, 2005, at 17:55, Joseph Ross Lee wrote: > Yeah. What's happening with support. There are lots of issues > posted here and almost none where resolved. geesh. This is not > good. I have to buy an upgade to fix the problems? I don't think > its right to ask money from customers in exchange for fixing bugs!!! > On 05 1, 05, at 9:27 AM, Seth Palmer wrote: > > >> While I'm not thrilled with the prospect of having to pay, I am >> appreciative of Mark Space's efforts and would gladly pay the $20 >> to upgrade when it becomes available. We shouldn't be too harsh on >> niche software developers like Mark Space -- they provide a >> valuable product that is at reasonable cost. We got a PocketPC >> because we like the platform. We have a Mac because we like the >> platform. We accept that there are some additional costs involved. >> $20 seems minimal to me. And truly worth it. I only hope Sidekick >> users will be just as pleased ... and patient. >> >> >> Joel McLaughlin wrote: >> >> >>> I also think it's crap too. I like that there's a new version, >>> but considering that there has not been a patch for months, it >>> makes me wonder. What I don't get is that the Danger one just >>> came out and is already non functional and they get one for >>> free, while us loyal PPC users have been socked with having to >>> pay. I mean we do get a discount on the upgrade with is >>> considerable. If I simply had what the original version used to >>> do on Tiger, I would be happy. It's not like Mark/Space did not >>> know it was coming. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list >>> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com >>> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives >>> can be found at: >>> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc- >>> talk >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com >> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives >> can be found at: >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc- >> talk >> >> >> >> > -- > Joseph Ross Lee > http://www.technosmurfs.com > http://www.udeko.com > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives > can be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > From plainsong at mac.com Wed May 4 02:57:22 2005 From: plainsong at mac.com (Kimberly Ruohio) Date: Tue May 3 15:58:32 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Re: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk Digest, Vol 28, Issue 3 In-Reply-To: <200505031903.j43J3DIB005443@penguin.markspace.com> References: <200505031903.j43J3DIB005443@penguin.markspace.com> Message-ID: <26B4BE23-A960-4410-AA22-3629DEE2BB84@mac.com> People seemed to want to know if it worked. I did a clean install of Tiger, and Pocketmac 3.44 works. Not too scientfic, but did try a clean install on a g4 imac using TMS and it didn't work. Am I supposed to lie about it? Take it or leave it, jeez. Remember it's not me ripping you off. > Answer from the other software when reporting bugs with Tiger is > below... > > "Thanks for reporting, we'll send out an email when the Tiger update > is ready. > Thank you," > > Not so done as we were led to believe. > > > From matt at galaxydesign.com.au Wed May 4 10:49:53 2005 From: matt at galaxydesign.com.au (Matt Baker) Date: Tue May 3 16:50:29 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Re: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk Digest, Vol 28, Issue 3 In-Reply-To: <26B4BE23-A960-4410-AA22-3629DEE2BB84@mac.com> References: <200505031903.j43J3DIB005443@penguin.markspace.com> <26B4BE23-A960-4410-AA22-3629DEE2BB84@mac.com> Message-ID: <2564CCC4-418D-4040-87DE-C0B34AC455D6@galaxydesign.com.au> ok.... PocketMac doesn't require iSync (although you can use it in pre- Tiger), it has it's own app for syncing. As Entourage has not had to change for Tiger it will still sync with PocketMac's own syncing software. Apple has changed the way iCal stores and writes to it's calendar files, PocketMac won't sync with iCal until they update this part of PocketMac. TMS is integrated into iSync, hence the issue with a re-work of the entire program to suit the new sync technology. If you can not wait for the new release of TMS, stop complaining and go to PocketMac (which still does not allow you to choose which calendars you wish to sync). If you can wait... then wait, pay the measly $20 and get on with the rest of your life. On 04/05/2005, at 8:57 AM, Kimberly Ruohio wrote: > People seemed to want to know if it worked. I did a clean install > of Tiger, and Pocketmac 3.44 works. Not too scientfic, but did try > a clean install on a g4 imac using TMS and it didn't work. Am I > supposed to lie about it? > > Take it or leave it, jeez. Remember it's not me ripping you off. > > >> Answer from the other software when reporting bugs with Tiger is >> below... >> >> "Thanks for reporting, we'll send out an email when the Tiger update >> is ready. >> Thank you," >> >> Not so done as we were led to believe. >> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives > can be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > > From plainsong at mac.com Mon May 2 00:28:18 2005 From: plainsong at mac.com (Kimberly Ruohio) Date: Fri May 6 12:04:21 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Paying to get it to Sync on Tiger In-Reply-To: <200505012011.j41KBHIB010645@penguin.markspace.com> References: <200505012011.j41KBHIB010645@penguin.markspace.com> Message-ID: <91FE728A-A73E-4F96-90B3-D895281CCB36@mac.com> I wouldn't paying for new features, but I can't abide paying for bug fixes. That's just unethical and their silence speaks volumes. The bugs that have been around since day one: (apparently for those not in their time zone) the handy feature of all day recurring events happening on all sorts of day except for the one it's supposed to. That adds some excitement. Bluetooth - I tried with a Loox, with a 2210, and with an imate jam. None would hold the connection. Now previously contacting tech support resulted in them blaming your computer (tried on an imac and ibook, the software failure was consistent) - but now they claim the bugs are fixed. How can this be if the bugs weren't there to begin with? ;) Oh right, they're using Poom now, which should have been the case from the start. Therefore, paying for a bugfix. Not cool. End of the day, the competing software works on Tiger as is, and there is a free update coming. Oh gee, wonder which one I'll stick with? ;) Kim On May 1, 2005, at 11:11 PM, missing-sync-pocketpc-talk- request@lists.markspace.com wrote: > Paying to get it to Sync on > Tiger > From mpersell at mac.com Sun May 1 17:31:27 2005 From: mpersell at mac.com (Michael Persell) Date: Fri May 6 12:04:21 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Paying to get it to Sync on Tiger In-Reply-To: <91FE728A-A73E-4F96-90B3-D895281CCB36@mac.com> References: <200505012011.j41KBHIB010645@penguin.markspace.com> <91FE728A-A73E-4F96-90B3-D895281CCB36@mac.com> Message-ID: I tried the competing software on Tiger and had kernel panics. Upgrade, clean install, archive... didn't matter, still kernel panic on boot. Remove the other software and no more kernel panics. I guess we wait....in a disorganized fashion. Mike On May 1, 2005, at 3:28 PM, Kimberly Ruohio wrote: > I wouldn't paying for new features, but I can't abide paying for > bug fixes. That's just unethical and their silence speaks volumes. > > The bugs that have been around since day one: (apparently for those > not in their time zone) the handy feature of all day recurring > events happening on all sorts of day except for the one it's > supposed to. That adds some excitement. Bluetooth - I tried with a > Loox, with a 2210, and with an imate jam. None would hold the > connection. > > Now previously contacting tech support resulted in them blaming > your computer (tried on an imac and ibook, the software failure was > consistent) - but now they claim the bugs are fixed. How can this > be if the bugs weren't there to begin with? ;) Oh right, they're > using Poom now, which should have been the case from the start. > > Therefore, paying for a bugfix. Not cool. > > End of the day, the competing software works on Tiger as is, and > there is a free update coming. Oh gee, wonder which one I'll stick > with? ;) > > Kim > > On May 1, 2005, at 11:11 PM, missing-sync-pocketpc-talk- > request@lists.markspace.com wrote: > > >> Paying to get it to Sync on >> Tiger >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives > can be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > From pcharles at chartermi.net Sun May 1 20:57:11 2005 From: pcharles at chartermi.net (Paul Charlesworth) Date: Fri May 6 12:04:21 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Paying to get it to Sync on Tiger In-Reply-To: <91FE728A-A73E-4F96-90B3-D895281CCB36@mac.com> References: <200505012011.j41KBHIB010645@penguin.markspace.com> <91FE728A-A73E-4F96-90B3-D895281CCB36@mac.com> Message-ID: <42756CD7.5070606@chartermi.net> Err! What? Kimberly Ruohio wrote: > I wouldn't paying for new features, but I can't abide paying for bug > fixes. That's just unethical and their silence speaks volumes. > > The bugs that have been around since day one: (apparently for those > not in their time zone) the handy feature of all day recurring events > happening on all sorts of day except for the one it's supposed to. > That adds some excitement. Bluetooth - I tried with a Loox, with a > 2210, and with an imate jam. None would hold the connection. > > Now previously contacting tech support resulted in them blaming your > computer (tried on an imac and ibook, the software failure was > consistent) - but now they claim the bugs are fixed. How can this be > if the bugs weren't there to begin with? ;) Oh right, they're using > Poom now, which should have been the case from the start. > > Therefore, paying for a bugfix. Not cool. > > End of the day, the competing software works on Tiger as is, and > there is a free update coming. Oh gee, wonder which one I'll stick > with? ;) > > Kim > > On May 1, 2005, at 11:11 PM, missing-sync-pocketpc-talk- > request@lists.markspace.com wrote: > >> Paying to get it to Sync on >> Tiger >> > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > From mpersell at mac.com Tue May 3 00:33:15 2005 From: mpersell at mac.com (Michael Persell) Date: Fri May 6 12:04:21 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Tiger - TMS and Pocketmac In-Reply-To: <8EC83170-0D82-4F66-BD74-34B7851151C1@mac.com> References: <200504292047.j3TKkwIB011135@penguin.markspace.com> <8EC83170-0D82-4F66-BD74-34B7851151C1@mac.com> Message-ID: <46BF4FC5-6E97-4949-A5BC-27F64C62C876@mac.com> Answer from the other software when reporting bugs with Tiger is below... "Thanks for reporting, we'll send out an email when the Tiger update is ready. Thank you," Not so done as we were led to believe. On Apr 29, 2005, at 8:40 PM, Kimberly Ruohio wrote: > Anyway, I don't reply much to this list, mainly because TMS hasn't > been what I hoped. It never did put recurring all-day appointments > on the correct day, and was just a PITA. Pocketmac has always > worked. I was dismayed to see what if you want to use TMS, you'll > have to pay for bug fixes. I say let us decide to pay for new > features, but paying for bug fixes will loose you customers, me > being one of them. > > Now then, to the point - the current v3.44 of Pocketmac is working > in Tiger. I can't speak for ical, but if you use Entourage > everything is golden. :D > > Kim > From rip at devco.net Tue May 3 09:28:02 2005 From: rip at devco.net (R.I.Pienaar) Date: Fri May 6 12:04:21 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Tiger - TMS and Pocketmac In-Reply-To: <46BF4FC5-6E97-4949-A5BC-27F64C62C876@mac.com> References: <200504292047.j3TKkwIB011135@penguin.markspace.com> <8EC83170-0D82-4F66-BD74-34B7851151C1@mac.com> <46BF4FC5-6E97-4949-A5BC-27F64C62C876@mac.com> Message-ID: <20050503072802.GD28709@devco.net> led to believe what? the website says: "Important 10.4 ("Tiger") Notice: Tiger Updates will be available on this page first or second week of May. They will be completely free to download." On Mon May 02, 2005 at 11:33:15PM -0500, Michael Persell wrote: > Answer from the other software when reporting bugs with Tiger is > below... > > "Thanks for reporting, we'll send out an email when the Tiger update > is ready. > Thank you," > > Not so done as we were led to believe. > > > > > On Apr 29, 2005, at 8:40 PM, Kimberly Ruohio wrote: > > >Anyway, I don't reply much to this list, mainly because TMS hasn't > >been what I hoped. It never did put recurring all-day appointments > >on the correct day, and was just a PITA. Pocketmac has always > >worked. I was dismayed to see what if you want to use TMS, you'll > >have to pay for bug fixes. I say let us decide to pay for new > >features, but paying for bug fixes will loose you customers, me > >being one of them. > > > >Now then, to the point - the current v3.44 of Pocketmac is working > >in Tiger. I can't speak for ical, but if you use Entourage > >everything is golden. :D > > > >Kim > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be > found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > -- R.I. Pienaar rip@devco.net http://www.devco.net/ "A Million Faces, Each A Million Lies" From mpersell at mac.com Tue May 3 10:38:21 2005 From: mpersell at mac.com (Michael Persell) Date: Fri May 6 12:04:21 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Tiger - TMS and Pocketmac In-Reply-To: <20050503072802.GD28709@devco.net> References: <200504292047.j3TKkwIB011135@penguin.markspace.com> <8EC83170-0D82-4F66-BD74-34B7851151C1@mac.com> <46BF4FC5-6E97-4949-A5BC-27F64C62C876@mac.com> <20050503072802.GD28709@devco.net> Message-ID: There were a couple of announcement like stories I've read that their spokesman touted the readiness. http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/zd/20050412/tc_zd/149841 On May 3, 2005, at 2:28 AM, R.I.Pienaar wrote: > led to believe what? the website says: > > "Important 10.4 ("Tiger") Notice: > Tiger Updates will be available on this page first or second week > of May. They > will be completely free to download." > > > On Mon May 02, 2005 at 11:33:15PM -0500, Michael Persell wrote: > >> Answer from the other software when reporting bugs with Tiger is >> below... >> >> "Thanks for reporting, we'll send out an email when the Tiger update >> is ready. >> Thank you," >> >> Not so done as we were led to believe. >> >> From jrosslee at technosmurfs.com Wed May 4 00:55:14 2005 From: jrosslee at technosmurfs.com (Joseph Ross Lee) Date: Fri May 6 12:04:21 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Paying to get it to Sync on Tiger In-Reply-To: <42743069.3080702@sethpalmer.com> References: <200504301901.j3UJ1NIB014708@penguin.markspace.com> <42743069.3080702@sethpalmer.com> Message-ID: Yeah. What's happening with support. There are lots of issues posted here and almost none where resolved. geesh. This is not good. I have to buy an upgade to fix the problems? I don't think its right to ask money from customers in exchange for fixing bugs!!! On 05 1, 05, at 9:27 AM, Seth Palmer wrote: > While I'm not thrilled with the prospect of having to pay, I am > appreciative of Mark Space's efforts and would gladly pay the $20 to > upgrade when it becomes available. We shouldn't be too harsh on niche > software developers like Mark Space -- they provide a valuable product > that is at reasonable cost. We got a PocketPC because we like the > platform. We have a Mac because we like the platform. We accept that > there are some additional costs involved. $20 seems minimal to me. And > truly worth it. I only hope Sidekick users will be just as pleased ... > and patient. > > > Joel McLaughlin wrote: > >> I also think it's crap too. I like that there's a new version, but >> considering that there has not been a patch for months, it makes me >> wonder. What I don't get is that the Danger one just came out and >> is already non functional and they get one for free, while us loyal >> PPC users have been socked with having to pay. I mean we do get a >> discount on the upgrade with is considerable. If I simply had what >> the original version used to do on Tiger, I would be happy. It's not >> like Mark/Space did not know it was coming. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com >> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can >> be found at: >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > > > -- Joseph Ross Lee http://www.technosmurfs.com http://www.udeko.com From bsillon at mac.com Tue May 3 20:00:25 2005 From: bsillon at mac.com (Bertrand SILLON) Date: Fri May 6 12:04:21 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Paying to get it to Sync on Tiger In-Reply-To: References: <200504301901.j3UJ1NIB014708@penguin.markspace.com> <42743069.3080702@sethpalmer.com> Message-ID: Agreed. On May 3, 2005, at 17:55, Joseph Ross Lee wrote: > Yeah. What's happening with support. There are lots of issues > posted here and almost none where resolved. geesh. This is not > good. I have to buy an upgade to fix the problems? I don't think > its right to ask money from customers in exchange for fixing bugs!!! > On 05 1, 05, at 9:27 AM, Seth Palmer wrote: > > >> While I'm not thrilled with the prospect of having to pay, I am >> appreciative of Mark Space's efforts and would gladly pay the $20 >> to upgrade when it becomes available. We shouldn't be too harsh on >> niche software developers like Mark Space -- they provide a >> valuable product that is at reasonable cost. We got a PocketPC >> because we like the platform. We have a Mac because we like the >> platform. We accept that there are some additional costs involved. >> $20 seems minimal to me. And truly worth it. I only hope Sidekick >> users will be just as pleased ... and patient. >> >> >> Joel McLaughlin wrote: >> >> >>> I also think it's crap too. I like that there's a new version, >>> but considering that there has not been a patch for months, it >>> makes me wonder. What I don't get is that the Danger one just >>> came out and is already non functional and they get one for >>> free, while us loyal PPC users have been socked with having to >>> pay. I mean we do get a discount on the upgrade with is >>> considerable. If I simply had what the original version used to >>> do on Tiger, I would be happy. It's not like Mark/Space did not >>> know it was coming. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list >>> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com >>> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives >>> can be found at: >>> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc- >>> talk >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com >> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives >> can be found at: >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc- >> talk >> >> >> >> > -- > Joseph Ross Lee > http://www.technosmurfs.com > http://www.udeko.com > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives > can be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > From plainsong at mac.com Wed May 4 02:57:22 2005 From: plainsong at mac.com (Kimberly Ruohio) Date: Fri May 6 12:04:21 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Re: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk Digest, Vol 28, Issue 3 In-Reply-To: <200505031903.j43J3DIB005443@penguin.markspace.com> References: <200505031903.j43J3DIB005443@penguin.markspace.com> Message-ID: <26B4BE23-A960-4410-AA22-3629DEE2BB84@mac.com> People seemed to want to know if it worked. I did a clean install of Tiger, and Pocketmac 3.44 works. Not too scientfic, but did try a clean install on a g4 imac using TMS and it didn't work. Am I supposed to lie about it? Take it or leave it, jeez. Remember it's not me ripping you off. > Answer from the other software when reporting bugs with Tiger is > below... > > "Thanks for reporting, we'll send out an email when the Tiger update > is ready. > Thank you," > > Not so done as we were led to believe. > > > From matt at galaxydesign.com.au Wed May 4 10:49:53 2005 From: matt at galaxydesign.com.au (Matt Baker) Date: Fri May 6 12:04:21 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Re: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk Digest, Vol 28, Issue 3 In-Reply-To: <26B4BE23-A960-4410-AA22-3629DEE2BB84@mac.com> References: <200505031903.j43J3DIB005443@penguin.markspace.com> <26B4BE23-A960-4410-AA22-3629DEE2BB84@mac.com> Message-ID: <2564CCC4-418D-4040-87DE-C0B34AC455D6@galaxydesign.com.au> ok.... PocketMac doesn't require iSync (although you can use it in pre- Tiger), it has it's own app for syncing. As Entourage has not had to change for Tiger it will still sync with PocketMac's own syncing software. Apple has changed the way iCal stores and writes to it's calendar files, PocketMac won't sync with iCal until they update this part of PocketMac. TMS is integrated into iSync, hence the issue with a re-work of the entire program to suit the new sync technology. If you can not wait for the new release of TMS, stop complaining and go to PocketMac (which still does not allow you to choose which calendars you wish to sync). If you can wait... then wait, pay the measly $20 and get on with the rest of your life. On 04/05/2005, at 8:57 AM, Kimberly Ruohio wrote: > People seemed to want to know if it worked. I did a clean install > of Tiger, and Pocketmac 3.44 works. Not too scientfic, but did try > a clean install on a g4 imac using TMS and it didn't work. Am I > supposed to lie about it? > > Take it or leave it, jeez. Remember it's not me ripping you off. > > >> Answer from the other software when reporting bugs with Tiger is >> below... >> >> "Thanks for reporting, we'll send out an email when the Tiger update >> is ready. >> Thank you," >> >> Not so done as we were led to believe. >> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives > can be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > > From phillip at madgestevens.net Sat May 14 11:53:17 2005 From: phillip at madgestevens.net (Phillip Deackes) Date: Sat May 14 02:53:29 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] PocketMac for Tiger now available - free for registered users. Message-ID: Just downloaded the Tiger-compatible version of PocketMac and have to report that so far (very early days) it is working flawlessly. The upgrade is free to registered users too. -- Phillip Deackes From dramsey at neko.com Sun May 15 13:03:32 2005 From: dramsey at neko.com (David Ramsey) Date: Sun May 15 12:03:35 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] PocketMac for Tiger now available - free for registered users. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3DD5404C-43B7-4242-B21A-335DB7B37FE0@neko.com> You've had a much better experience than I. On my G5 running Tiger, it's flakey (neither of my Pocket PCs can connect consistently), Bluetooth connections that previously worked perfectly with Missing Sync don't work at all; the TCP/IP connection doesn't work, and edits made in the "Notes" section of addresses in Address Book do not sync to the Pocket PC. On my first sync, all my Calendar entries were duplicated on both the Mac and the PC. I have to confirm _every deletion_ from the Calendar or Address Book, on either the Mac or the PC. If there's a preference to turn this off, I haven't found it. Add documentation that's not only among the worst I've ever seen for a commercial product, but _required a separate download to obtain_, and as far as I'm concerned, it was a complete waste of money. -- David Ramsey On May 14, 2005, at 2:53 AM, Phillip Deackes wrote: > Just downloaded the Tiger-compatible version of PocketMac and have > to report > that so far (very early days) it is working flawlessly. The upgrade > is free > to registered users too. > > -- > Phillip Deackes > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives > can be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > > From edvbre at mac.com Mon May 16 00:01:39 2005 From: edvbre at mac.com (edvbre) Date: Sun May 15 14:01:48 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Missing Sync for Pocket PC - new Tiger version Message-ID: <2296F61F-1A33-4757-96E2-E2186A032348@mac.com> Yesterday I downloaded the new version for tiger. I deinstalled the old version and tried to install the new one, but the following message was coming: "Missing Sync for pocketPC requires iSync 1.2 or later" Tiger has installed iSynk 2.0 and is therefore later! Please help! Herbert from Austria From lists at musikmanufaktur.com Mon May 16 00:14:04 2005 From: lists at musikmanufaktur.com (Johannes Gebauer) Date: Sun May 15 14:12:15 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Missing Sync for Pocket PC - new Tiger version In-Reply-To: <2296F61F-1A33-4757-96E2-E2186A032348@mac.com> References: <2296F61F-1A33-4757-96E2-E2186A032348@mac.com> Message-ID: <4287BB9C.7050303@musikmanufaktur.com> Where is this "new version for Tiger"? I thought it hadn't come out yet. I am desperately waiting for it before I can upgrade to Tiger. Johannes edvbre schrieb: > Yesterday I downloaded the new version for tiger. > I deinstalled the old version and tried to install the new one, > but the following message was coming: > "Missing Sync for pocketPC requires iSync 1.2 or later" > Tiger has installed iSynk 2.0 and is therefore later! > > Please help! > Herbert from Austria > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be > found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de From jwick at meccorp.mec.edu Sun May 15 18:18:32 2005 From: jwick at meccorp.mec.edu (Jim Wick) Date: Sun May 15 14:18:36 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Missing Sync for Pocket PC - new Tiger version In-Reply-To: <2296F61F-1A33-4757-96E2-E2186A032348@mac.com> Message-ID: It has not been released yet From: edvbre Reply-To: "The Missing Sync (Mac/Pocket PC)" Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 17:01:39 -0400 To: Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Missing Sync for Pocket PC - new Tiger version Yesterday I downloaded the new version for tiger. I deinstalled the old version and tried to install the new one, but the following message was coming: "Missing Sync for pocketPC requires iSync 1.2 or later" Tiger has installed iSynk 2.0 and is therefore later! Please help! Herbert from Austria _______________________________________________ missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found at: http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk From brettsea at reubster.net Mon May 16 10:22:03 2005 From: brettsea at reubster.net (Brett Collinson) Date: Sun May 15 16:22:09 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] PocketMac working for Tiger Message-ID: <5D93D2BB-A99D-4EE5-AB19-84BB2C738C66@reubster.net> I too have downloaded and installed the new Tiger version of PocketMac. I'm using PocketMac Lite. And it is working well. No problems at all connecting to my O2 XDA II, via USB and Bluetooth. No problem syncing multi-day and recurring events. I'm just as happy with PocketMac as I was with MissingSync. It seems to sync more reliably and the Lite version is cheap. The only minor bug I've found so far with PocketMac is iCal events with an ampersand character (&) get duplicated every time you sync because PocketMac replaces the ampersand with a plus characters (+) and so next time you sync, it doesn't recognise that the event already exists. I've worked around this by removing all ampersands from my events. All the best if you try it. Not having a MissingSync version ready for Tiger is very poor. From coreymclaughlin at mac.com Sun May 15 19:23:02 2005 From: coreymclaughlin at mac.com (R. Corey McLaughlin) Date: Sun May 15 16:23:09 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Missing Sync for Pocket PC - new Tiger version In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Any word if the new version will support syncing the contacts image? On 5/15/05 4:18 PM, "Jim Wick" wrote: > It has not been released yet > > From: edvbre > Reply-To: "The Missing Sync (Mac/Pocket PC)" > > Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 17:01:39 -0400 > To: > Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Missing Sync for Pocket PC - new Tiger > version > > Yesterday I downloaded the new version for tiger. > I deinstalled the old version and tried to install the new one, > but the following message was coming: > "Missing Sync for pocketPC requires iSync 1.2 or later" > Tiger has installed iSynk 2.0 and is therefore later! > > Please help! > Herbert from Austria > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be > found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk From dramsey at neko.com Sun May 15 17:39:43 2005 From: dramsey at neko.com (David Ramsey) Date: Sun May 15 16:39:51 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] PocketMac working for Tiger In-Reply-To: <5D93D2BB-A99D-4EE5-AB19-84BB2C738C66@reubster.net> References: <5D93D2BB-A99D-4EE5-AB19-84BB2C738C66@reubster.net> Message-ID: On my system: * About every third time I try to sync, it asks to re-install the PocketMac software on the handheld. * When it complains that a contact or event has been deleted on the Pocket PC or Mac, it opens a window which should presumably show the deleted record, but which instead is blank, so that you don't know what, exactly, it's complaining about. * Syncing doesn't seem to work at all most of the time. I change a record on one end, sync, and it's only got about a 20% chance of making it through to the other end. This is using the OS X Address Book and iCal plugins supplied with the product. * The PocketMac status window will happily show my device connected and ready 10 minutes after I removed it from the cradle. (It has to be in the cradle; Bluetooth simply does not work.) * During the install, when it asks if it should configure iTunes, if I say "Yes", the Installer quietly goes away forever ("forever" = "I lost patience after 10 minutes, timed.") The documentation, however, is the kicker. Whoever heard of buying software and not getting any documentation with it? It's easy enough to get, but why make it a separate download? And the documentation is so sublimely terrible. It took my a long time to figure out that PocketMac exists as an icon in the menu bar, because all the documentation shows is a microscopic, no-context picture of the icon, and refers to the menu bar as the "status bar." It happily announces that it now works with iSync...and that's it. No information on how to add your Pocket PC to iSync or to set up the conduits. I could go on, but you get the picture. Dunno what's special about my machine-- dual-proc G5 running Tiger-- but the product would be closed to damned for its horrible documentation even if it worked perfectly. As a final insult, when you UNINSTALL it, the uninstaller is too stupid to shut down the various PocketMac processes, and leaves PocketMac-related files splattered all over your machine (specifically: in your home directory, in ~/Libary/PocketMac, and ~/ Library/Application Support/PocketMac). Thank God for Spotlight, which has allowed me to remove every trace of this vomitous product from my machine forever. On May 15, 2005, at 4:22 PM, Brett Collinson wrote: > I too have downloaded and installed the new Tiger version of > PocketMac. I'm using PocketMac Lite. And it is working well. No > problems at all connecting to my O2 XDA II, via USB and > Bluetooth. No problem syncing multi-day and recurring events. > I'm just as happy with PocketMac as I was with MissingSync. It > seems to sync more reliably and the Lite version is cheap. > > The only minor bug I've found so far with PocketMac is iCal events > with an ampersand character (&) get duplicated every time you sync > because PocketMac replaces the ampersand with a plus characters (+) > and so next time you sync, it doesn't recognise that the event > already exists. I've worked around this by removing all ampersands > from my events. > > All the best if you try it. Not having a MissingSync version ready > for Tiger is very poor. > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives > can be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > > From phillip at madgestevens.net Mon May 16 08:45:17 2005 From: phillip at madgestevens.net (Phillip Deackes) Date: Sun May 15 23:45:27 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] PocketMac for Tiger now available - free for registered users. In-Reply-To: <3DD5404C-43B7-4242-B21A-335DB7B37FE0@neko.com> Message-ID: On 15/5/05 20:03, "David Ramsey" wrote: > You've had a much better experience than I. > I guess I've been lucky. Did you do a fresh install of Tiger? (As opposed to an upgrade). I did so had no traces of any previous PocketPC sync apps on my machine at all. I mentioned that I previously bought PocketMac, wasn't keen, so bought MissingSync and stayed with the latter. In this instance, however, there is no competition - MissingSync simply doesn't exist for Tiger. I am into day 2 and PocketMac is still working for me. I don't do bluetooth sync'ing (always too slow). I use a Windows machine & Remote Desktop to install .exe apps and, although I would prefer to be able to change to the default setting, I am prepared to have to OK each and every calendar deletion for now. -- Phillip Deackes From sacomsto at gmail.com Mon May 16 10:12:18 2005 From: sacomsto at gmail.com (Scott Comstock) Date: Mon May 16 07:12:23 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] PocketMac working for Tiger In-Reply-To: <5D93D2BB-A99D-4EE5-AB19-84BB2C738C66@reubster.net> References: <5D93D2BB-A99D-4EE5-AB19-84BB2C738C66@reubster.net> Message-ID: <955E972F-0822-41D4-896F-760A2390818F@gmail.com> I'm confused... did I subscribe to the wrong mailing list? I thought this one was supposed to be about Missing Sync by Mark/Space? I'm sure that the makers of PocketMac must have a forum somewhere to discuss their software... or perhaps they have one to discuss the merits of Missing Sync? :-) Scott On May 15, 2005, at 6:22 PM, Brett Collinson wrote: > I too have downloaded and installed the new Tiger version of > PocketMac. I'm using PocketMac Lite. And it is working well. No > problems at all connecting to my O2 XDA II, via USB and > Bluetooth. No problem syncing multi-day and recurring events. > I'm just as happy with PocketMac as I was with MissingSync. It > seems to sync more reliably and the Lite version is cheap. > > The only minor bug I've found so far with PocketMac is iCal events > with an ampersand character (&) get duplicated every time you sync > because PocketMac replaces the ampersand with a plus characters (+) > and so next time you sync, it doesn't recognise that the event > already exists. I've worked around this by removing all ampersands > from my events. > > All the best if you try it. Not having a MissingSync version ready > for Tiger is very poor. > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives > can be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > From dramsey at neko.com Mon May 16 09:52:06 2005 From: dramsey at neko.com (David Ramsey) Date: Mon May 16 08:52:10 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] PocketMac for Tiger now available - free for registered users. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1EB341D0-A6B2-4FB8-9D59-5F3135867101@neko.com> I might give it another try; other people report it works well. I prefer the Bluetooth sync for convenience. I did an "archive" install of Tiger, which installs a new OS and migrates user settings, but not system-level drivers (I had to reinstall printer, scanner, etc.) so I don't think that's the issue. I could try Missing Sync, of course, but although I was accepted into the beta program I never received the name and password that would let me log into the beta site. I'm hoping to receive that today. The thing that caused me to uninstall it yesterday was its apparently nonfunctional sync with the address book in OS X. Does this feature work for you? On May 15, 2005, at 11:45 PM, Phillip Deackes wrote: > On 15/5/05 20:03, "David Ramsey" wrote: > > >> You've had a much better experience than I. >> >> > > I guess I've been lucky. Did you do a fresh install of Tiger? (As > opposed to > an upgrade). I did so had no traces of any previous PocketPC sync > apps on my > machine at all. > > I mentioned that I previously bought PocketMac, wasn't keen, so bought > MissingSync and stayed with the latter. > > In this instance, however, there is no competition - MissingSync > simply > doesn't exist for Tiger. > > I am into day 2 and PocketMac is still working for me. I don't do > bluetooth > sync'ing (always too slow). I use a Windows machine & Remote > Desktop to > install .exe apps and, although I would prefer to be able to change > to the > default setting, I am prepared to have to OK each and every calendar > deletion for now. > > -- > Phillip Deackes > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives > can be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > > From phillip at madgestevens.net Mon May 16 18:50:22 2005 From: phillip at madgestevens.net (Phillip Deackes) Date: Mon May 16 09:51:14 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] PocketMac for Tiger now available - free for registered users. In-Reply-To: <1EB341D0-A6B2-4FB8-9D59-5F3135867101@neko.com> Message-ID: On 16/5/05 16:52, "David Ramsey" wrote: > The thing that caused me to uninstall it yesterday was its apparently > nonfunctional sync with the address book in OS X. Does this feature > work for you? Yes - the contacts sync works fine here, although if I delete a contact on the PDA, it is put back the next time I sync. Is this the default behaviour? I can't say I have ever deleted any contacts before. -- Phillip Deackes From Antony at DEmanuele.net Tue May 31 00:20:28 2005 From: Antony at DEmanuele.net (A. D'Emanuele) Date: Mon May 30 15:21:15 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Fields missing after Syncing Message-ID: I have finally made the move from my Palm to an iPAQ. Transferred all my data from Palm Desktop to Address Book and iCal, fairly painless step.... I then used Missing Sync for the first time to sync with calendar and contacts. Seems to work reasonably well (any bugs I should be aware of?). The only problem I noticed was that not all of my Address Book fields get transferred. Is there a way of getting all fields to transfer? I have only synced once (ie loaded my data on to the iPAQ), hope my second sync is equally painless...... Shame that new entries on a calendar on my iPAQ can't be tied to a specific calendar on iCal. Is there much difference in syncing functionality between Missing Sync and PocketMac pro? thanks Tony From plainsong at mac.com Sun May 1 13:28:18 2005 From: plainsong at mac.com (Kimberly Ruohio) Date: Thu Aug 18 09:16:53 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Paying to get it to Sync on Tiger In-Reply-To: <200505012011.j41KBHIB010645@penguin.markspace.com> References: <200505012011.j41KBHIB010645@penguin.markspace.com> Message-ID: <91FE728A-A73E-4F96-90B3-D895281CCB36@mac.com> I wouldn't paying for new features, but I can't abide paying for bug fixes. That's just unethical and their silence speaks volumes. The bugs that have been around since day one: (apparently for those not in their time zone) the handy feature of all day recurring events happening on all sorts of day except for the one it's supposed to. That adds some excitement. Bluetooth - I tried with a Loox, with a 2210, and with an imate jam. None would hold the connection. Now previously contacting tech support resulted in them blaming your computer (tried on an imac and ibook, the software failure was consistent) - but now they claim the bugs are fixed. How can this be if the bugs weren't there to begin with? ;) Oh right, they're using Poom now, which should have been the case from the start. Therefore, paying for a bugfix. Not cool. End of the day, the competing software works on Tiger as is, and there is a free update coming. Oh gee, wonder which one I'll stick with? ;) Kim On May 1, 2005, at 11:11 PM, missing-sync-pocketpc-talk- request@lists.markspace.com wrote: > Paying to get it to Sync on > Tiger > From mpersell at mac.com Sun May 1 14:31:27 2005 From: mpersell at mac.com (Michael Persell) Date: Thu Aug 18 09:16:53 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Paying to get it to Sync on Tiger In-Reply-To: <91FE728A-A73E-4F96-90B3-D895281CCB36@mac.com> References: <200505012011.j41KBHIB010645@penguin.markspace.com> <91FE728A-A73E-4F96-90B3-D895281CCB36@mac.com> Message-ID: I tried the competing software on Tiger and had kernel panics. Upgrade, clean install, archive... didn't matter, still kernel panic on boot. Remove the other software and no more kernel panics. I guess we wait....in a disorganized fashion. Mike On May 1, 2005, at 3:28 PM, Kimberly Ruohio wrote: > I wouldn't paying for new features, but I can't abide paying for > bug fixes. That's just unethical and their silence speaks volumes. > > The bugs that have been around since day one: (apparently for those > not in their time zone) the handy feature of all day recurring > events happening on all sorts of day except for the one it's > supposed to. That adds some excitement. Bluetooth - I tried with a > Loox, with a 2210, and with an imate jam. None would hold the > connection. > > Now previously contacting tech support resulted in them blaming > your computer (tried on an imac and ibook, the software failure was > consistent) - but now they claim the bugs are fixed. How can this > be if the bugs weren't there to begin with? ;) Oh right, they're > using Poom now, which should have been the case from the start. > > Therefore, paying for a bugfix. Not cool. > > End of the day, the competing software works on Tiger as is, and > there is a free update coming. Oh gee, wonder which one I'll stick > with? ;) > > Kim > > On May 1, 2005, at 11:11 PM, missing-sync-pocketpc-talk- > request@lists.markspace.com wrote: > > >> Paying to get it to Sync on >> Tiger >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives > can be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > From pcharles at chartermi.net Sun May 1 16:57:11 2005 From: pcharles at chartermi.net (Paul Charlesworth) Date: Thu Aug 18 09:16:53 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Paying to get it to Sync on Tiger In-Reply-To: <91FE728A-A73E-4F96-90B3-D895281CCB36@mac.com> References: <200505012011.j41KBHIB010645@penguin.markspace.com> <91FE728A-A73E-4F96-90B3-D895281CCB36@mac.com> Message-ID: <42756CD7.5070606@chartermi.net> Err! What? Kimberly Ruohio wrote: > I wouldn't paying for new features, but I can't abide paying for bug > fixes. That's just unethical and their silence speaks volumes. > > The bugs that have been around since day one: (apparently for those > not in their time zone) the handy feature of all day recurring events > happening on all sorts of day except for the one it's supposed to. > That adds some excitement. Bluetooth - I tried with a Loox, with a > 2210, and with an imate jam. None would hold the connection. > > Now previously contacting tech support resulted in them blaming your > computer (tried on an imac and ibook, the software failure was > consistent) - but now they claim the bugs are fixed. How can this be > if the bugs weren't there to begin with? ;) Oh right, they're using > Poom now, which should have been the case from the start. > > Therefore, paying for a bugfix. Not cool. > > End of the day, the competing software works on Tiger as is, and > there is a free update coming. Oh gee, wonder which one I'll stick > with? ;) > > Kim > > On May 1, 2005, at 11:11 PM, missing-sync-pocketpc-talk- > request@lists.markspace.com wrote: > >> Paying to get it to Sync on >> Tiger >> > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > From mpersell at mac.com Mon May 2 21:33:15 2005 From: mpersell at mac.com (Michael Persell) Date: Thu Aug 18 09:16:53 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Tiger - TMS and Pocketmac In-Reply-To: <8EC83170-0D82-4F66-BD74-34B7851151C1@mac.com> References: <200504292047.j3TKkwIB011135@penguin.markspace.com> <8EC83170-0D82-4F66-BD74-34B7851151C1@mac.com> Message-ID: <46BF4FC5-6E97-4949-A5BC-27F64C62C876@mac.com> Answer from the other software when reporting bugs with Tiger is below... "Thanks for reporting, we'll send out an email when the Tiger update is ready. Thank you," Not so done as we were led to believe. On Apr 29, 2005, at 8:40 PM, Kimberly Ruohio wrote: > Anyway, I don't reply much to this list, mainly because TMS hasn't > been what I hoped. It never did put recurring all-day appointments > on the correct day, and was just a PITA. Pocketmac has always > worked. I was dismayed to see what if you want to use TMS, you'll > have to pay for bug fixes. I say let us decide to pay for new > features, but paying for bug fixes will loose you customers, me > being one of them. > > Now then, to the point - the current v3.44 of Pocketmac is working > in Tiger. I can't speak for ical, but if you use Entourage > everything is golden. :D > > Kim > From rip at devco.net Tue May 3 00:28:02 2005 From: rip at devco.net (R.I.Pienaar) Date: Thu Aug 18 09:16:54 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Tiger - TMS and Pocketmac In-Reply-To: <46BF4FC5-6E97-4949-A5BC-27F64C62C876@mac.com> References: <200504292047.j3TKkwIB011135@penguin.markspace.com> <8EC83170-0D82-4F66-BD74-34B7851151C1@mac.com> <46BF4FC5-6E97-4949-A5BC-27F64C62C876@mac.com> Message-ID: <20050503072802.GD28709@devco.net> led to believe what? the website says: "Important 10.4 ("Tiger") Notice: Tiger Updates will be available on this page first or second week of May. They will be completely free to download." On Mon May 02, 2005 at 11:33:15PM -0500, Michael Persell wrote: > Answer from the other software when reporting bugs with Tiger is > below... > > "Thanks for reporting, we'll send out an email when the Tiger update > is ready. > Thank you," > > Not so done as we were led to believe. > > > > > On Apr 29, 2005, at 8:40 PM, Kimberly Ruohio wrote: > > >Anyway, I don't reply much to this list, mainly because TMS hasn't > >been what I hoped. It never did put recurring all-day appointments > >on the correct day, and was just a PITA. Pocketmac has always > >worked. I was dismayed to see what if you want to use TMS, you'll > >have to pay for bug fixes. I say let us decide to pay for new > >features, but paying for bug fixes will loose you customers, me > >being one of them. > > > >Now then, to the point - the current v3.44 of Pocketmac is working > >in Tiger. I can't speak for ical, but if you use Entourage > >everything is golden. :D > > > >Kim > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be > found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > -- R.I. Pienaar rip@devco.net http://www.devco.net/ "A Million Faces, Each A Million Lies" From mpersell at mac.com Tue May 3 07:38:21 2005 From: mpersell at mac.com (Michael Persell) Date: Thu Aug 18 09:16:54 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Tiger - TMS and Pocketmac In-Reply-To: <20050503072802.GD28709@devco.net> References: <200504292047.j3TKkwIB011135@penguin.markspace.com> <8EC83170-0D82-4F66-BD74-34B7851151C1@mac.com> <46BF4FC5-6E97-4949-A5BC-27F64C62C876@mac.com> <20050503072802.GD28709@devco.net> Message-ID: There were a couple of announcement like stories I've read that their spokesman touted the readiness. http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/zd/20050412/tc_zd/149841 On May 3, 2005, at 2:28 AM, R.I.Pienaar wrote: > led to believe what? the website says: > > "Important 10.4 ("Tiger") Notice: > Tiger Updates will be available on this page first or second week > of May. They > will be completely free to download." > > > On Mon May 02, 2005 at 11:33:15PM -0500, Michael Persell wrote: > >> Answer from the other software when reporting bugs with Tiger is >> below... >> >> "Thanks for reporting, we'll send out an email when the Tiger update >> is ready. >> Thank you," >> >> Not so done as we were led to believe. >> >> From jrosslee at technosmurfs.com Tue May 3 08:55:14 2005 From: jrosslee at technosmurfs.com (Joseph Ross Lee) Date: Thu Aug 18 09:16:54 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Paying to get it to Sync on Tiger In-Reply-To: <42743069.3080702@sethpalmer.com> References: <200504301901.j3UJ1NIB014708@penguin.markspace.com> <42743069.3080702@sethpalmer.com> Message-ID: Yeah. What's happening with support. There are lots of issues posted here and almost none where resolved. geesh. This is not good. I have to buy an upgade to fix the problems? I don't think its right to ask money from customers in exchange for fixing bugs!!! On 05 1, 05, at 9:27 AM, Seth Palmer wrote: > While I'm not thrilled with the prospect of having to pay, I am > appreciative of Mark Space's efforts and would gladly pay the $20 to > upgrade when it becomes available. We shouldn't be too harsh on niche > software developers like Mark Space -- they provide a valuable product > that is at reasonable cost. We got a PocketPC because we like the > platform. We have a Mac because we like the platform. We accept that > there are some additional costs involved. $20 seems minimal to me. And > truly worth it. I only hope Sidekick users will be just as pleased ... > and patient. > > > Joel McLaughlin wrote: > >> I also think it's crap too. I like that there's a new version, but >> considering that there has not been a patch for months, it makes me >> wonder. What I don't get is that the Danger one just came out and >> is already non functional and they get one for free, while us loyal >> PPC users have been socked with having to pay. I mean we do get a >> discount on the upgrade with is considerable. If I simply had what >> the original version used to do on Tiger, I would be happy. It's not >> like Mark/Space did not know it was coming. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com >> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can >> be found at: >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > > > -- Joseph Ross Lee http://www.technosmurfs.com http://www.udeko.com From bsillon at mac.com Tue May 3 10:00:25 2005 From: bsillon at mac.com (Bertrand SILLON) Date: Thu Aug 18 09:16:54 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Paying to get it to Sync on Tiger In-Reply-To: References: <200504301901.j3UJ1NIB014708@penguin.markspace.com> <42743069.3080702@sethpalmer.com> Message-ID: Agreed. On May 3, 2005, at 17:55, Joseph Ross Lee wrote: > Yeah. What's happening with support. There are lots of issues > posted here and almost none where resolved. geesh. This is not > good. I have to buy an upgade to fix the problems? I don't think > its right to ask money from customers in exchange for fixing bugs!!! > On 05 1, 05, at 9:27 AM, Seth Palmer wrote: > > >> While I'm not thrilled with the prospect of having to pay, I am >> appreciative of Mark Space's efforts and would gladly pay the $20 >> to upgrade when it becomes available. We shouldn't be too harsh on >> niche software developers like Mark Space -- they provide a >> valuable product that is at reasonable cost. We got a PocketPC >> because we like the platform. We have a Mac because we like the >> platform. We accept that there are some additional costs involved. >> $20 seems minimal to me. And truly worth it. I only hope Sidekick >> users will be just as pleased ... and patient. >> >> >> Joel McLaughlin wrote: >> >> >>> I also think it's crap too. I like that there's a new version, >>> but considering that there has not been a patch for months, it >>> makes me wonder. What I don't get is that the Danger one just >>> came out and is already non functional and they get one for >>> free, while us loyal PPC users have been socked with having to >>> pay. I mean we do get a discount on the upgrade with is >>> considerable. If I simply had what the original version used to >>> do on Tiger, I would be happy. It's not like Mark/Space did not >>> know it was coming. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list >>> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com >>> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives >>> can be found at: >>> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc- >>> talk >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com >> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives >> can be found at: >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc- >> talk >> >> >> >> > -- > Joseph Ross Lee > http://www.technosmurfs.com > http://www.udeko.com > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives > can be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > From plainsong at mac.com Tue May 3 15:57:22 2005 From: plainsong at mac.com (Kimberly Ruohio) Date: Thu Aug 18 09:16:54 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Re: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk Digest, Vol 28, Issue 3 In-Reply-To: <200505031903.j43J3DIB005443@penguin.markspace.com> References: <200505031903.j43J3DIB005443@penguin.markspace.com> Message-ID: <26B4BE23-A960-4410-AA22-3629DEE2BB84@mac.com> People seemed to want to know if it worked. I did a clean install of Tiger, and Pocketmac 3.44 works. Not too scientfic, but did try a clean install on a g4 imac using TMS and it didn't work. Am I supposed to lie about it? Take it or leave it, jeez. Remember it's not me ripping you off. > Answer from the other software when reporting bugs with Tiger is > below... > > "Thanks for reporting, we'll send out an email when the Tiger update > is ready. > Thank you," > > Not so done as we were led to believe. > > > From matt at galaxydesign.com.au Tue May 3 16:49:53 2005 From: matt at galaxydesign.com.au (Matt Baker) Date: Thu Aug 18 09:16:54 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Re: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk Digest, Vol 28, Issue 3 In-Reply-To: <26B4BE23-A960-4410-AA22-3629DEE2BB84@mac.com> References: <200505031903.j43J3DIB005443@penguin.markspace.com> <26B4BE23-A960-4410-AA22-3629DEE2BB84@mac.com> Message-ID: <2564CCC4-418D-4040-87DE-C0B34AC455D6@galaxydesign.com.au> ok.... PocketMac doesn't require iSync (although you can use it in pre- Tiger), it has it's own app for syncing. As Entourage has not had to change for Tiger it will still sync with PocketMac's own syncing software. Apple has changed the way iCal stores and writes to it's calendar files, PocketMac won't sync with iCal until they update this part of PocketMac. TMS is integrated into iSync, hence the issue with a re-work of the entire program to suit the new sync technology. If you can not wait for the new release of TMS, stop complaining and go to PocketMac (which still does not allow you to choose which calendars you wish to sync). If you can wait... then wait, pay the measly $20 and get on with the rest of your life. On 04/05/2005, at 8:57 AM, Kimberly Ruohio wrote: > People seemed to want to know if it worked. I did a clean install > of Tiger, and Pocketmac 3.44 works. Not too scientfic, but did try > a clean install on a g4 imac using TMS and it didn't work. Am I > supposed to lie about it? > > Take it or leave it, jeez. Remember it's not me ripping you off. > > >> Answer from the other software when reporting bugs with Tiger is >> below... >> >> "Thanks for reporting, we'll send out an email when the Tiger update >> is ready. >> Thank you," >> >> Not so done as we were led to believe. >> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives > can be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > > From phillip at madgestevens.net Sat May 14 02:53:17 2005 From: phillip at madgestevens.net (Phillip Deackes) Date: Thu Aug 18 09:16:54 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] PocketMac for Tiger now available - free for registered users. Message-ID: Just downloaded the Tiger-compatible version of PocketMac and have to report that so far (very early days) it is working flawlessly. The upgrade is free to registered users too. -- Phillip Deackes From dramsey at neko.com Sun May 15 12:03:32 2005 From: dramsey at neko.com (David Ramsey) Date: Thu Aug 18 09:16:54 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] PocketMac for Tiger now available - free for registered users. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3DD5404C-43B7-4242-B21A-335DB7B37FE0@neko.com> You've had a much better experience than I. On my G5 running Tiger, it's flakey (neither of my Pocket PCs can connect consistently), Bluetooth connections that previously worked perfectly with Missing Sync don't work at all; the TCP/IP connection doesn't work, and edits made in the "Notes" section of addresses in Address Book do not sync to the Pocket PC. On my first sync, all my Calendar entries were duplicated on both the Mac and the PC. I have to confirm _every deletion_ from the Calendar or Address Book, on either the Mac or the PC. If there's a preference to turn this off, I haven't found it. Add documentation that's not only among the worst I've ever seen for a commercial product, but _required a separate download to obtain_, and as far as I'm concerned, it was a complete waste of money. -- David Ramsey On May 14, 2005, at 2:53 AM, Phillip Deackes wrote: > Just downloaded the Tiger-compatible version of PocketMac and have > to report > that so far (very early days) it is working flawlessly. The upgrade > is free > to registered users too. > > -- > Phillip Deackes > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives > can be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > > From edvbre at mac.com Sun May 15 14:01:39 2005 From: edvbre at mac.com (edvbre) Date: Thu Aug 18 09:16:54 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Missing Sync for Pocket PC - new Tiger version Message-ID: <2296F61F-1A33-4757-96E2-E2186A032348@mac.com> Yesterday I downloaded the new version for tiger. I deinstalled the old version and tried to install the new one, but the following message was coming: "Missing Sync for pocketPC requires iSync 1.2 or later" Tiger has installed iSynk 2.0 and is therefore later! Please help! Herbert from Austria From lists at musikmanufaktur.com Sun May 15 14:14:04 2005 From: lists at musikmanufaktur.com (Johannes Gebauer) Date: Thu Aug 18 09:16:54 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Missing Sync for Pocket PC - new Tiger version In-Reply-To: <2296F61F-1A33-4757-96E2-E2186A032348@mac.com> References: <2296F61F-1A33-4757-96E2-E2186A032348@mac.com> Message-ID: <4287BB9C.7050303@musikmanufaktur.com> Where is this "new version for Tiger"? I thought it hadn't come out yet. I am desperately waiting for it before I can upgrade to Tiger. Johannes edvbre schrieb: > Yesterday I downloaded the new version for tiger. > I deinstalled the old version and tried to install the new one, > but the following message was coming: > "Missing Sync for pocketPC requires iSync 1.2 or later" > Tiger has installed iSynk 2.0 and is therefore later! > > Please help! > Herbert from Austria > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be > found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de From jwick at meccorp.mec.edu Sun May 15 14:18:32 2005 From: jwick at meccorp.mec.edu (Jim Wick) Date: Thu Aug 18 09:16:54 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Missing Sync for Pocket PC - new Tiger version In-Reply-To: <2296F61F-1A33-4757-96E2-E2186A032348@mac.com> Message-ID: It has not been released yet From: edvbre Reply-To: "The Missing Sync (Mac/Pocket PC)" Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 17:01:39 -0400 To: Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Missing Sync for Pocket PC - new Tiger version Yesterday I downloaded the new version for tiger. I deinstalled the old version and tried to install the new one, but the following message was coming: "Missing Sync for pocketPC requires iSync 1.2 or later" Tiger has installed iSynk 2.0 and is therefore later! Please help! Herbert from Austria _______________________________________________ missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found at: http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk From brettsea at reubster.net Sun May 15 16:22:03 2005 From: brettsea at reubster.net (Brett Collinson) Date: Thu Aug 18 09:16:54 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] PocketMac working for Tiger Message-ID: <5D93D2BB-A99D-4EE5-AB19-84BB2C738C66@reubster.net> I too have downloaded and installed the new Tiger version of PocketMac. I'm using PocketMac Lite. And it is working well. No problems at all connecting to my O2 XDA II, via USB and Bluetooth. No problem syncing multi-day and recurring events. I'm just as happy with PocketMac as I was with MissingSync. It seems to sync more reliably and the Lite version is cheap. The only minor bug I've found so far with PocketMac is iCal events with an ampersand character (&) get duplicated every time you sync because PocketMac replaces the ampersand with a plus characters (+) and so next time you sync, it doesn't recognise that the event already exists. I've worked around this by removing all ampersands from my events. All the best if you try it. Not having a MissingSync version ready for Tiger is very poor. From coreymclaughlin at mac.com Sun May 15 16:23:02 2005 From: coreymclaughlin at mac.com (R. Corey McLaughlin) Date: Thu Aug 18 09:16:54 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Missing Sync for Pocket PC - new Tiger version In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Any word if the new version will support syncing the contacts image? On 5/15/05 4:18 PM, "Jim Wick" wrote: > It has not been released yet > > From: edvbre > Reply-To: "The Missing Sync (Mac/Pocket PC)" > > Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 17:01:39 -0400 > To: > Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Missing Sync for Pocket PC - new Tiger > version > > Yesterday I downloaded the new version for tiger. > I deinstalled the old version and tried to install the new one, > but the following message was coming: > "Missing Sync for pocketPC requires iSync 1.2 or later" > Tiger has installed iSynk 2.0 and is therefore later! > > Please help! > Herbert from Austria > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be > found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk From dramsey at neko.com Sun May 15 16:39:43 2005 From: dramsey at neko.com (David Ramsey) Date: Thu Aug 18 09:16:54 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] PocketMac working for Tiger In-Reply-To: <5D93D2BB-A99D-4EE5-AB19-84BB2C738C66@reubster.net> References: <5D93D2BB-A99D-4EE5-AB19-84BB2C738C66@reubster.net> Message-ID: On my system: * About every third time I try to sync, it asks to re-install the PocketMac software on the handheld. * When it complains that a contact or event has been deleted on the Pocket PC or Mac, it opens a window which should presumably show the deleted record, but which instead is blank, so that you don't know what, exactly, it's complaining about. * Syncing doesn't seem to work at all most of the time. I change a record on one end, sync, and it's only got about a 20% chance of making it through to the other end. This is using the OS X Address Book and iCal plugins supplied with the product. * The PocketMac status window will happily show my device connected and ready 10 minutes after I removed it from the cradle. (It has to be in the cradle; Bluetooth simply does not work.) * During the install, when it asks if it should configure iTunes, if I say "Yes", the Installer quietly goes away forever ("forever" = "I lost patience after 10 minutes, timed.") The documentation, however, is the kicker. Whoever heard of buying software and not getting any documentation with it? It's easy enough to get, but why make it a separate download? And the documentation is so sublimely terrible. It took my a long time to figure out that PocketMac exists as an icon in the menu bar, because all the documentation shows is a microscopic, no-context picture of the icon, and refers to the menu bar as the "status bar." It happily announces that it now works with iSync...and that's it. No information on how to add your Pocket PC to iSync or to set up the conduits. I could go on, but you get the picture. Dunno what's special about my machine-- dual-proc G5 running Tiger-- but the product would be closed to damned for its horrible documentation even if it worked perfectly. As a final insult, when you UNINSTALL it, the uninstaller is too stupid to shut down the various PocketMac processes, and leaves PocketMac-related files splattered all over your machine (specifically: in your home directory, in ~/Libary/PocketMac, and ~/ Library/Application Support/PocketMac). Thank God for Spotlight, which has allowed me to remove every trace of this vomitous product from my machine forever. On May 15, 2005, at 4:22 PM, Brett Collinson wrote: > I too have downloaded and installed the new Tiger version of > PocketMac. I'm using PocketMac Lite. And it is working well. No > problems at all connecting to my O2 XDA II, via USB and > Bluetooth. No problem syncing multi-day and recurring events. > I'm just as happy with PocketMac as I was with MissingSync. It > seems to sync more reliably and the Lite version is cheap. > > The only minor bug I've found so far with PocketMac is iCal events > with an ampersand character (&) get duplicated every time you sync > because PocketMac replaces the ampersand with a plus characters (+) > and so next time you sync, it doesn't recognise that the event > already exists. I've worked around this by removing all ampersands > from my events. > > All the best if you try it. Not having a MissingSync version ready > for Tiger is very poor. > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives > can be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > > From phillip at madgestevens.net Sun May 15 23:45:17 2005 From: phillip at madgestevens.net (Phillip Deackes) Date: Thu Aug 18 09:16:54 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] PocketMac for Tiger now available - free for registered users. In-Reply-To: <3DD5404C-43B7-4242-B21A-335DB7B37FE0@neko.com> Message-ID: On 15/5/05 20:03, "David Ramsey" wrote: > You've had a much better experience than I. > I guess I've been lucky. Did you do a fresh install of Tiger? (As opposed to an upgrade). I did so had no traces of any previous PocketPC sync apps on my machine at all. I mentioned that I previously bought PocketMac, wasn't keen, so bought MissingSync and stayed with the latter. In this instance, however, there is no competition - MissingSync simply doesn't exist for Tiger. I am into day 2 and PocketMac is still working for me. I don't do bluetooth sync'ing (always too slow). I use a Windows machine & Remote Desktop to install .exe apps and, although I would prefer to be able to change to the default setting, I am prepared to have to OK each and every calendar deletion for now. -- Phillip Deackes From sacomsto at gmail.com Mon May 16 07:12:18 2005 From: sacomsto at gmail.com (Scott Comstock) Date: Thu Aug 18 09:16:54 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] PocketMac working for Tiger In-Reply-To: <5D93D2BB-A99D-4EE5-AB19-84BB2C738C66@reubster.net> References: <5D93D2BB-A99D-4EE5-AB19-84BB2C738C66@reubster.net> Message-ID: <955E972F-0822-41D4-896F-760A2390818F@gmail.com> I'm confused... did I subscribe to the wrong mailing list? I thought this one was supposed to be about Missing Sync by Mark/Space? I'm sure that the makers of PocketMac must have a forum somewhere to discuss their software... or perhaps they have one to discuss the merits of Missing Sync? :-) Scott On May 15, 2005, at 6:22 PM, Brett Collinson wrote: > I too have downloaded and installed the new Tiger version of > PocketMac. I'm using PocketMac Lite. And it is working well. No > problems at all connecting to my O2 XDA II, via USB and > Bluetooth. No problem syncing multi-day and recurring events. > I'm just as happy with PocketMac as I was with MissingSync. It > seems to sync more reliably and the Lite version is cheap. > > The only minor bug I've found so far with PocketMac is iCal events > with an ampersand character (&) get duplicated every time you sync > because PocketMac replaces the ampersand with a plus characters (+) > and so next time you sync, it doesn't recognise that the event > already exists. I've worked around this by removing all ampersands > from my events. > > All the best if you try it. Not having a MissingSync version ready > for Tiger is very poor. > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives > can be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > From dramsey at neko.com Mon May 16 08:52:06 2005 From: dramsey at neko.com (David Ramsey) Date: Thu Aug 18 09:16:54 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] PocketMac for Tiger now available - free for registered users. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1EB341D0-A6B2-4FB8-9D59-5F3135867101@neko.com> I might give it another try; other people report it works well. I prefer the Bluetooth sync for convenience. I did an "archive" install of Tiger, which installs a new OS and migrates user settings, but not system-level drivers (I had to reinstall printer, scanner, etc.) so I don't think that's the issue. I could try Missing Sync, of course, but although I was accepted into the beta program I never received the name and password that would let me log into the beta site. I'm hoping to receive that today. The thing that caused me to uninstall it yesterday was its apparently nonfunctional sync with the address book in OS X. Does this feature work for you? On May 15, 2005, at 11:45 PM, Phillip Deackes wrote: > On 15/5/05 20:03, "David Ramsey" wrote: > > >> You've had a much better experience than I. >> >> > > I guess I've been lucky. Did you do a fresh install of Tiger? (As > opposed to > an upgrade). I did so had no traces of any previous PocketPC sync > apps on my > machine at all. > > I mentioned that I previously bought PocketMac, wasn't keen, so bought > MissingSync and stayed with the latter. > > In this instance, however, there is no competition - MissingSync > simply > doesn't exist for Tiger. > > I am into day 2 and PocketMac is still working for me. I don't do > bluetooth > sync'ing (always too slow). I use a Windows machine & Remote > Desktop to > install .exe apps and, although I would prefer to be able to change > to the > default setting, I am prepared to have to OK each and every calendar > deletion for now. > > -- > Phillip Deackes > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives > can be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > > From phillip at madgestevens.net Mon May 16 09:50:22 2005 From: phillip at madgestevens.net (Phillip Deackes) Date: Thu Aug 18 09:16:54 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] PocketMac for Tiger now available - free for registered users. In-Reply-To: <1EB341D0-A6B2-4FB8-9D59-5F3135867101@neko.com> Message-ID: On 16/5/05 16:52, "David Ramsey" wrote: > The thing that caused me to uninstall it yesterday was its apparently > nonfunctional sync with the address book in OS X. Does this feature > work for you? Yes - the contacts sync works fine here, although if I delete a contact on the PDA, it is put back the next time I sync. Is this the default behaviour? I can't say I have ever deleted any contacts before. -- Phillip Deackes From Antony at DEmanuele.net Mon May 30 15:20:28 2005 From: Antony at DEmanuele.net (A. D'Emanuele) Date: Thu Aug 18 09:16:54 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Fields missing after Syncing Message-ID: I have finally made the move from my Palm to an iPAQ. Transferred all my data from Palm Desktop to Address Book and iCal, fairly painless step.... I then used Missing Sync for the first time to sync with calendar and contacts. Seems to work reasonably well (any bugs I should be aware of?). The only problem I noticed was that not all of my Address Book fields get transferred. Is there a way of getting all fields to transfer? I have only synced once (ie loaded my data on to the iPAQ), hope my second sync is equally painless...... Shame that new entries on a calendar on my iPAQ can't be tied to a specific calendar on iCal. Is there much difference in syncing functionality between Missing Sync and PocketMac pro? thanks Tony