From brian_hall at markspace.com Fri Jul 1 15:01:06 2005 From: brian_hall at markspace.com (Brian Hall) Date: Fri Jul 1 15:02:06 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Sync to Mac and PC, Sync to Mac and VPC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >AND, I have one question for anyone who knows: Mark/Space says we'll be able >to synchronize both Mac AND Wintel PC with the Tiger-compatible Missing >Sync. We have tested that in-house, as it was a very common request. > What if the Mac OS and Windows XP OS are running on the same box; >i.e., VPC? We haven't tested that (VPC on same Mac) yet in-house, but we plan to soon. At this point, if there turned out to be any issues with MS and VPC on the same box, they would need to be addressed in a 2.0.1, but noted for the 2.0.0. We'll see. Brian -- _____________________________________________________________________ Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 654 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 Los Gatos, CA 95030-4360 From kfreeman at markspace.com Fri Jul 1 15:29:00 2005 From: kfreeman at markspace.com (Ken Freeman) Date: Fri Jul 1 15:29:04 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Sync to Mac and PC, Sync to Mac and VPC In-Reply-To: Message-ID: True that we have not tested this exact scenario, but I would expect it should work fine. AcitveSync running on VPC will create one partnership for the device and the Mac OS would take up the second available partnership on the device. In the Missing Sync for Windows Mobile you can disable it from connecting at all via USB, Bluetooth or Network, so that you can then force VPC to recognize the device when you connect it. This will enable you to control whether you sync with the Mac or VPC. Ken On 7/1/05 3:01 PM, "Brian Hall" wrote: >> AND, I have one question for anyone who knows: Mark/Space says we'll be able >> to synchronize both Mac AND Wintel PC with the Tiger-compatible Missing >> Sync. > > We have tested that in-house, as it was a very common request. > >> What if the Mac OS and Windows XP OS are running on the same box; >> i.e., VPC? > > We haven't tested that (VPC on same Mac) yet in-house, but we plan to soon. > At this point, if there turned out to be any issues with MS and VPC on the > same box, they would need to be addressed in a 2.0.1, but noted for the > 2.0.0. We'll see. > > Brian From tdefriez at cs.com Sat Jul 2 12:51:00 2005 From: tdefriez at cs.com (Tony Defriez) Date: Sat Jul 2 12:51:09 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Re: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk Digest, Vol 30, Issue 1 In-Reply-To: <200507021903.j62J3A3c002740@sparrow.markspace.com> References: <200507021903.j62J3A3c002740@sparrow.markspace.com> Message-ID: <0EB85B46-D412-4D8F-BDD4-59610AE6A3E9@cs.com> Actually it works baring a few minor bugs - I tested this recently on a beta of Missing Sync for Mobile (build 22). You can sync to VPC (running version 7), a full blown PC and Mac (both Panther and Tiger). The only issue I see currently (which is not related to beta program itself) is that on every sync to PC/VPC all entries need to be synchronized - they are all indicated as not being synchronized. I never tried it on earlier versions of Missing Sync. So once beta becomes a released product this can be done. On Jul 2, 2005, at 12:03, missing-sync-pocketpc-talk- request@lists.markspace.com wrote: > Send missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list submissions to > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync- > pocketpc-talk > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-request@lists.markspace.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-owner@lists.markspace.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of missing-sync-pocketpc-talk digest..." > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives > can be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > _______________________________________________ > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Sync to Mac and PC, Sync to Mac and VPC (Brian Hall) > 2. Re: Sync to Mac and PC, Sync to Mac and VPC (Ken Freeman) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 15:01:06 -0700 > From: Brian Hall > Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Sync to Mac and PC, Sync to > Mac > and VPC > To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Pocket PC\)" > > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > >> AND, I have one question for anyone who knows: Mark/Space says >> we'll be able >> to synchronize both Mac AND Wintel PC with the Tiger-compatible >> Missing >> Sync. >> > > We have tested that in-house, as it was a very common request. > > >> What if the Mac OS and Windows XP OS are running on the same box; >> i.e., VPC? >> > > We haven't tested that (VPC on same Mac) yet in-house, but we plan > to soon. > At this point, if there turned out to be any issues with MS and VPC > on the > same box, they would need to be addressed in a 2.0.1, but noted for > the > 2.0.0. We'll see. > > Brian > > -- > _____________________________________________________________________ > Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 > 654 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 > Los Gatos, CA 95030-4360 > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 15:29:00 -0700 > From: Ken Freeman > Subject: Re: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Sync to Mac and PC, Sync to > Mac and VPC > To: "The Missing Sync (Mac/Pocket PC)" > > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > True that we have not tested this exact scenario, but I would > expect it > should work fine. AcitveSync running on VPC will create one > partnership for > the device and the Mac OS would take up the second available > partnership on > the device. > > In the Missing Sync for Windows Mobile you can disable it from > connecting at > all via USB, Bluetooth or Network, so that you can then force VPC to > recognize the device when you connect it. This will enable you to > control > whether you sync with the Mac or VPC. > > Ken > > > On 7/1/05 3:01 PM, "Brian Hall" wrote: > > >>> AND, I have one question for anyone who knows: Mark/Space says >>> we'll be able >>> to synchronize both Mac AND Wintel PC with the Tiger-compatible >>> Missing >>> Sync. >>> >> >> We have tested that in-house, as it was a very common request. >> >> >>> What if the Mac OS and Windows XP OS are running on the same box; >>> i.e., VPC? >>> >> >> We haven't tested that (VPC on same Mac) yet in-house, but we plan >> to soon. >> At this point, if there turned out to be any issues with MS and >> VPC on the >> same box, they would need to be addressed in a 2.0.1, but noted >> for the >> 2.0.0. We'll see. >> >> Brian >> > > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives > can be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > > End of missing-sync-pocketpc-talk Digest, Vol 30, Issue 1 > ********************************************************* > From tdefriez at cs.com Sat Jul 2 12:54:36 2005 From: tdefriez at cs.com (Tony Defriez) Date: Sat Jul 2 12:54:43 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Re: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk Digest, Vol 30, Issue 1 In-Reply-To: <0EB85B46-D412-4D8F-BDD4-59610AE6A3E9@cs.com> References: <200507021903.j62J3A3c002740@sparrow.markspace.com> <0EB85B46-D412-4D8F-BDD4-59610AE6A3E9@cs.com> Message-ID: Meant to make it clear the resyc issue only occurs after a Mac sync On Jul 2, 2005, at 12:51, Tony Defriez wrote: > Actually it works baring a few minor bugs - I tested this recently > on a beta of Missing Sync for Mobile (build 22). You can sync to > VPC (running version 7), a full blown PC and Mac (both Panther and > Tiger). The only issue I see currently (which is not related to > beta program itself) is that on every sync to PC/VPC all entries > need to be synchronized - they are all indicated as not being > synchronized. I never tried it on earlier versions of Missing > Sync. So once beta becomes a released product this can be done. > > On Jul 2, 2005, at 12:03, missing-sync-pocketpc-talk- > request@lists.markspace.com wrote: > > >> Send missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list submissions to >> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync- >> pocketpc-talk >> >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-request@lists.markspace.com >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-owner@lists.markspace.com >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of missing-sync-pocketpc-talk digest..." >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com >> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives >> can be found at: >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc- >> talk >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Sync to Mac and PC, Sync to Mac and VPC (Brian Hall) >> 2. Re: Sync to Mac and PC, Sync to Mac and VPC (Ken Freeman) >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> - >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 15:01:06 -0700 >> From: Brian Hall >> Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Sync to Mac and PC, Sync >> to Mac >> and VPC >> To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Pocket PC\)" >> >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> >> >>> AND, I have one question for anyone who knows: Mark/Space says >>> we'll be able >>> to synchronize both Mac AND Wintel PC with the Tiger-compatible >>> Missing >>> Sync. >>> >>> >> >> We have tested that in-house, as it was a very common request. >> >> >> >>> What if the Mac OS and Windows XP OS are running on the same box; >>> i.e., VPC? >>> >>> >> >> We haven't tested that (VPC on same Mac) yet in-house, but we plan >> to soon. >> At this point, if there turned out to be any issues with MS and >> VPC on the >> same box, they would need to be addressed in a 2.0.1, but noted >> for the >> 2.0.0. We'll see. >> >> Brian >> >> -- >> _____________________________________________________________________ >> Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 >> 654 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 >> Los Gatos, CA 95030-4360 >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 15:29:00 -0700 >> From: Ken Freeman >> Subject: Re: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Sync to Mac and PC, >> Sync to >> Mac and VPC >> To: "The Missing Sync (Mac/Pocket PC)" >> >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >> >> True that we have not tested this exact scenario, but I would >> expect it >> should work fine. AcitveSync running on VPC will create one >> partnership for >> the device and the Mac OS would take up the second available >> partnership on >> the device. >> >> In the Missing Sync for Windows Mobile you can disable it from >> connecting at >> all via USB, Bluetooth or Network, so that you can then force VPC to >> recognize the device when you connect it. This will enable you to >> control >> whether you sync with the Mac or VPC. >> >> Ken >> >> >> On 7/1/05 3:01 PM, "Brian Hall" wrote: >> >> >> >>>> AND, I have one question for anyone who knows: Mark/Space says >>>> we'll be able >>>> to synchronize both Mac AND Wintel PC with the Tiger-compatible >>>> Missing >>>> Sync. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> We have tested that in-house, as it was a very common request. >>> >>> >>> >>>> What if the Mac OS and Windows XP OS are running on the same box; >>>> i.e., VPC? >>>> >>>> >>> >>> We haven't tested that (VPC on same Mac) yet in-house, but we >>> plan to soon. >>> At this point, if there turned out to be any issues with MS and >>> VPC on the >>> same box, they would need to be addressed in a 2.0.1, but noted >>> for the >>> 2.0.0. We'll see. >>> >>> Brian >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com >> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives >> can be found at: >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc- >> talk >> >> End of missing-sync-pocketpc-talk Digest, Vol 30, Issue 1 >> ********************************************************* >> >> > > From rickp at rossfell.co.uk Tue Jul 5 06:08:51 2005 From: rickp at rossfell.co.uk (Rick Payne) Date: Tue Jul 5 06:08:57 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Missing Sync for Win Mobile Moved to July In-Reply-To: <42C416F1.7060301@musikmanufaktur.com> References: <42C416F1.7060301@musikmanufaktur.com> Message-ID: <5D1D159C1A731178016E6980@fozzy.local> --On 30 June 2005 17:59:45 +0200 Johannes Gebauer wrote: > Here is my situation: I bought the existing version of Missing Sync > in March. It has showed numerous bugs, completely messed up my > calendars. At the same time it has made me hold back installing > Tiger, which I desperately need. I even have to pay for the update, > because I bought Missing Sync a week too early. I was going to do > that anyway, trusting you would at least keep your promises. You > haven't. I'm with you 100%. Got someone's birthday wrong recently because Missing Sync managed to shift some (though not all) of my repeating events forward a day at each sync. A bug that they've known about for ages now, and yet not a single attempt to fix it, or refund my money for a useless product. I was accepted on the beta program, but our fax machines would not communicate and so at their suggestion I e-mailed in a scanned signed version of their agreement but heard nothing back despite a couple of reminders. So I gave up. Rick From lejongleur at earthlink.net Tue Jul 5 10:34:21 2005 From: lejongleur at earthlink.net (Jonathan Greenberg) Date: Tue Jul 5 10:34:24 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Friendly Suggestion to Mark/Space Message-ID: <42CAC49D.7060905@earthlink.net> In light of the largely negative reaction to your recent rescheduling of the Missing Sync for Pocket PC Tiger-compatible upgrade, I have a suggestion that I hope you'll find helpful. The suggestion is that you post an estimate to this list, one that you could perhaps update every few days or so, as to when you expect the new release to be available. I realize this is the million dollar question and that you've already posted to your Web site a revised deadline of July 31st. But, to those of us who have chosen to hang in there and are therefore still looking to this list for news, I believe an approximation based on actual progress you're making would be highly appreciated. Even if the estimate is frequently pushed back as may be necessary, I think you'll find that your customers will appreciate knowing something rather than nothing at all. Thanks, Jonathan From mino at zazube.fsnet.co.uk Tue Jul 5 11:48:14 2005 From: mino at zazube.fsnet.co.uk (Mino Manekshaw) Date: Tue Jul 5 11:49:04 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] PowerMac G5 and iPAQ HP5450 Sync - Status Message-ID: I submitted a Bug Report on July 03 2005 04:52 AM My problem was getting the iPAQ to connect at all on either USB or BT I have not yet had any feedback on my report. Subsequently, and for no reason that I can establish, full USB connectivity has been reliably established. To date, however, I have not been able to connect with Bluetooth even though the BT Manager, on my PDA, says that an incoming and an outgoing relationship has been established with my G5. As regards the ?Known Issues? recorded at http://www.markspace.com/beta/known_issues.html Shut down of the Mac while device is mounted causes Missing Sync to Crash (2290) = Confirmed Can't connect iPaq 4705 via USB until you first connect via Bluetooth (Our handheld side app is not installing correctly via USB, but will load via Bluetooth, 2335) = Some aspect of this might have caused the USB to work as I tried to connect via BT when I failed to connect via USB. That said, I have not been able to connect via BT and I have since turned off BT on my PDA. Some Tiger users have found that deleting the current ~Library/Application Support/SyncServices folder enables them to sync without getting "Error on last sync" (Tiger Only, Synching with iCal and Address Book). = The File/Folder does not exist on my Mac To avoid the "Error on last sync!" please, for now, disable the Address Book plugin when testing the iCal plugin, and visa versa (Tiger ONLY). = I still get the ? Erroron last sync? regardless of whether I individually activate the iCal or the Address Book plug-in Hoping this includes some clues .....?:O) Mino Product: The Missing Sync for Windows Mobile Version: 2.0b24 Component: Mac Application Hardware Information Computer Model: PowerMac G5 Computer Operating System: Tiger (10.4.1) Handheld Model: HP iPAQ 5450 Handheld Operating System: Windows Mobile 2003 for Pocket PC From darknerd2k at yahoo.com Wed Jul 6 11:26:29 2005 From: darknerd2k at yahoo.com (Joaquin Menchaca) Date: Wed Jul 6 11:26:32 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Test of Character In-Reply-To: <200507051901.j65J1RPU002099@sparrow.markspace.com> Message-ID: <20050706182630.85204.qmail@web31012.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I cannot view: http://www.markspace.com/beta/known_issues.html This is a trying time for Missing Sync. I hope they come through. I hope they can do two things that will be a test of their character as a company: (1) fix existing bugs, especially data corruption bugs in existing Tiger operating sytems and make this available freely for those that purchased upgrade, (2) fix like existing bugs for panther bugs and if they'll not fix any lingering serious or corruption bugs for panther version, offer free upgrade to Tiger, and (3) offer free upgrade for recent purchases of MissingSync. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From seth at sethpalmer.com Wed Jul 6 15:29:32 2005 From: seth at sethpalmer.com (Seth Palmer) Date: Wed Jul 6 15:29:36 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Test of Character In-Reply-To: <20050706182630.85204.qmail@web31012.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20050706182630.85204.qmail@web31012.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <42CC5B4C.9020408@sethpalmer.com> Is the beta test list now integrated with this list? It's sometimes difficult to follow the threads when we mix beta testing issues with the other issues here (although having some view into how things are going on the beta test side are nice to haves). Joaquin Menchaca wrote: >I cannot view: > > http://www.markspace.com/beta/known_issues.html > >This is a trying time for Missing Sync. I hope they >come through. I hope they can do two things that will >be a test of their character as a company: (1) fix >existing bugs, especially data corruption bugs in >existing Tiger operating sytems and make this >available freely for those that purchased upgrade, (2) >fix like existing bugs for panther bugs and if they'll >not fix any lingering serious or corruption bugs for >panther version, offer free upgrade to Tiger, and (3) >offer free upgrade for recent purchases of >MissingSync. > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com >_______________________________________________ >missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list >missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com >Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found at: >http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > > From brian_hall at markspace.com Wed Jul 6 15:43:29 2005 From: brian_hall at markspace.com (Brian Hall) Date: Wed Jul 6 15:44:04 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Test of Character In-Reply-To: <42CC5B4C.9020408@sethpalmer.com> References: <20050706182630.85204.qmail@web31012.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <42CC5B4C.9020408@sethpalmer.com> Message-ID: At 6:29 PM -0400 7/6/05, Seth Palmer wrote: >Is the beta test list now integrated with this list? No, it is not. The beta is a closed beta, and there are other (different) channels for those working with the beta to contact us. > It's sometimes >difficult to follow the threads when we mix beta testing issues with the >other issues here (although having some view into how things are going >on the beta test side are nice to haves). > > >Joaquin Menchaca wrote: > >>I cannot view: >> >> http://www.markspace.com/beta/known_issues.html This is a private page only for those in the beta testing program. For public information on the upcoming release, please see http://www.markspace.com/missingsync_windowsmobile.html This page covers a number of questions that Joquin Menchacha raised, including the upgrade fee ($19.95 if you own any Missing Sync product) and grace period (free upgrade for those that purchased Missing Sync for Pocket PC on or after 4/1/05). Regards, Brian Hall -- _____________________________________________________________________ Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 654 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 Los Gatos, CA 95030-4360 From coreymclaughlin at mac.com Tue Jul 12 09:11:34 2005 From: coreymclaughlin at mac.com (Corey McLaughlin) Date: Tue Jul 12 09:11:38 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Windows Mobile Update Message-ID: <3748DF98-5304-4D7D-90FA-36ADC2871912@mac.com> OK guys can we get an update on this release? From eullman at markspace.com Tue Jul 12 09:21:18 2005 From: eullman at markspace.com (Eric Ullman) Date: Tue Jul 12 09:21:20 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Windows Mobile Update In-Reply-To: <3748DF98-5304-4D7D-90FA-36ADC2871912@mac.com> Message-ID: On 7/12/05 9:11 AM, "Corey McLaughlin" wrote: > OK guys can we get an update on this release? We're almost there. Definitely this month. Thanks for hanging in there just a little bit longer. Best, Eric -- Eric Ullman Director of Sales and Marketing Mark/Space, Inc. eullman@markspace.com From shamkhalil at famaco.com.my Tue Jul 12 17:31:39 2005 From: shamkhalil at famaco.com.my (sham khalil) Date: Tue Jul 12 17:31:33 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] O2 XDA IIs Message-ID: <3295a7c9389c39a59fde21cb6be2b1f2@famaco.com.my> Hi all i'm new here. I want to check if missing sync is compatible with O2 XDA IIs I'm running panther on my ibook G4. i've checked the website, i found that it is compatible with O2 XDA II but it does not mention about O2 XDA IIs Does the website implied that it is compatible with all XDA II range like XDA IIs and XDA IIi? Have anybody had any experience with refund with Markspace? What's their refund policy? How do I check for archives for this list? Thanks Sham Khalil From kfreeman at markspace.com Tue Jul 12 21:42:23 2005 From: kfreeman at markspace.com (Ken Freeman) Date: Tue Jul 12 21:42:26 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] O2 XDA IIs In-Reply-To: <3295a7c9389c39a59fde21cb6be2b1f2@famaco.com.my> Message-ID: Yes, the O2 XDA IIs is supported. All software sales are final. The exception is if you have a new device that we don't yet know if it is supported and we can't get it to connect. Archives can be found at http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk. Ken On 7/12/05 5:31 PM, "sham khalil" wrote: > Hi all > > i'm new here. I want to check if missing sync is compatible with O2 > XDA IIs > I'm running panther on my ibook G4. > i've checked the website, i found that it is compatible with O2 XDA II > but it does not mention about O2 XDA IIs > Does the website implied that it is compatible with all XDA II range > like XDA IIs and XDA IIi? > > Have anybody had any experience with refund with Markspace? What's > their refund policy? > > How do I check for archives for this list? > > > Thanks > Sham Khalil > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk From rcooksey at emailboxes.biz Sun Jul 17 05:35:48 2005 From: rcooksey at emailboxes.biz (Ronny Cooksey) Date: Sun Jul 17 05:35:59 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] trouble with isync Message-ID: Hello. I am trying to use missing sync and isync for the first time. First, I was having all sorts of trouble getting isync to complete the sync to the ipaq. Now, isync says it finished the sync but I still have no calendar entries in the ipaq calendar. Any ideas? Thanks! Ronny rcooksey@emailboxes.biz From seth at sethpalmer.com Sun Jul 17 07:56:41 2005 From: seth at sethpalmer.com (seth@sethpalmer.com) Date: Sun Jul 17 07:56:54 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] trouble with isync Message-ID: <9336607.1121612211671.JavaMail.teamon@b216.teamon.com> What version of the Mac OS are you running? Which iPAQ? What version of The Missing Sync software are you using? Details, please ... -----Original Message----- From: "Ronny Cooksey" Sent: 7/17/05 8:35:48 AM To: "missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com" Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] trouble with isync Hello. I am trying to use missing sync and isync for the first time. First, I was having all sorts of trouble getting isync to complete the sync to the ipaq. Now, isync says it finished the sync but I still have no calendar entries in the ipaq calendar. Any ideas? Thanks! Ronny rcooksey@emailboxes.biz From mojomo_99 at yahoo.com Tue Jul 19 19:32:59 2005 From: mojomo_99 at yahoo.com (MJ MAHONEY) Date: Tue Jul 19 19:33:01 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] MIssing Sync Message-ID: <20050720023300.77695.qmail@web33111.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I am just wondering when the new Missing Sync for Windows Mobile will be available. I have not synced by Pocke PC since I installed Tiger, and that was the first day Tiger came out. Please, please hurry and get the new program out. I need to sync my PPC! Thanks, MJ __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail for Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/learn/mail From jay.levenson at s-s-t-i.com Wed Jul 20 07:53:24 2005 From: jay.levenson at s-s-t-i.com (Jay Levenson) Date: Wed Jul 20 07:53:32 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Missing Missing-sync-pocketpc Message-ID: I don't know about everyone else, but I'm about to give up on MarkSpace. -- Jay Levenson -------------- next part -------------- 703 White Horse Rd., Suite 1 Voorhees, NJ 08043 856-679-0490 x211 From ibm360 at mac.com Wed Jul 20 08:25:33 2005 From: ibm360 at mac.com (Dave and Jay) Date: Wed Jul 20 08:25:44 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Missing Missing-sync-pocketpc In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Jay. Just my opinion but coding SW and interfacing the code to anoher application is not like getting work done on your car. There are no standard job times on how long it will take. I would rather wait for it to be developed and work correctly than get it and have errors that drive you crazy tring to debug. There are many other options available to work around issues. I have been keeping my calendar hardcopy and printing it each night. My contacts are still in my device from my previous connection (with a PC) and I replicate avantgo and review E-mails at local hotspots. Sure it is inconvenient but I am for still waiting. Dave Asaibene On Jul 20, 2005, at 9:53 AM, Jay Levenson wrote: > I don't know about everyone else, but I'm about to give up on > MarkSpace. > -- > Jay Levenson > > > 703 White Horse Rd., Suite 1 > Voorhees, NJ 08043 > 856-679-0490 x211 > > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives > can be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk From stationfarm at gmail.com Wed Jul 20 08:30:26 2005 From: stationfarm at gmail.com (Tim Lawson) Date: Wed Jul 20 08:31:17 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Missing Missing-sync-pocketpc In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I agree with Dave on this one. One solution is Sprite software's (in my view excellent) Sprite Backup which I use to backup to a CF or SD card. This can then either be left at a safe location or taken with the device. Tim. On 20 Jul 2005, at 16:25, Dave and Jay wrote: > Jay. Just my opinion but coding SW and interfacing the code to > anoher application is not like getting work done on your car. There > are no standard job times on how long it will take. I would rather > wait for it to be developed and work correctly than get it and have > errors that drive you crazy tring to debug. There are many other > options available to work around issues. I have been keeping my > calendar hardcopy and printing it each night. My contacts are still > in my device from my previous connection (with a PC) and I > replicate avantgo and review E-mails at local hotspots. Sure it is > inconvenient but I am for still waiting. > Dave Asaibene > > On Jul 20, 2005, at 9:53 AM, Jay Levenson wrote: > > >> I don't know about everyone else, but I'm about to give up on >> MarkSpace. >> -- >> Jay Levenson >> >> >> 703 White Horse Rd., Suite 1 >> Voorhees, NJ 08043 >> 856-679-0490 x211 >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com >> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives >> can be found at: >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc- >> talk >> > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives > can be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > From peter at milesconsulting.org Wed Jul 20 09:06:13 2005 From: peter at milesconsulting.org (Peter F. Conn) Date: Wed Jul 20 09:06:21 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Missing Missing-sync-pocketpc In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I know all discussion lately has been about Tiger. However, I am still at 10.3 and haven't had a good sync in a long time. I used to be able to soft reset my i700 and get it to sync. I usually get some long list of inconsistencies to reconcile. Now I get a failure. Calendar appears to sync but not contacts from Address Book. I get a failure message in iSync as follows. Any ideas anyone? Peter Wednesday, July 20, 2005 8:57 AM Conduit Pocket_PC generated exception NSInternalInconsistencyException: couldn't encode string United States of Ameri can't connect to the device to synchronize Pocket_PC. An inconsistency has been detected and discarded. The data on this computer has not been damaged. You should Reset All Devices from this computer and merge the changes to make sure all computers are in sync. An inconsistency has been detected and discarded. The data on this computer has not been damaged. You should Reset All Devices from this computer and merge the changes to make sure all computers are in sync. |||||| Peter F. Conn email> peter@milesconsulting.org |||||| |||||||||||||||| http://www.milesconsulting.org |||||||||||||| |||||||||| tel> 323 462 2462 cell> 323 401 1928 ||||||||| |||| NEW! NEW! NEW! http://wheresmary.com NEW! NEW! NEW! ||| From brian_hall at markspace.com Wed Jul 20 09:27:51 2005 From: brian_hall at markspace.com (Brian Hall) Date: Wed Jul 20 09:29:11 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Missing Missing-sync-pocketpc In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >I don't know about everyone else, but I'm about to give up on MarkSpace. I know it has been very quiet here on this list, but we're very busy on the 2.0 release, in the final stretch, and focused on that. We will be posting an email to this list the day it is released. For product info, requirements, etc, please see http://www.markspace.com/missingsync_windowsmobile.html Brian -- _____________________________________________________________________ Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 654 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 Los Gatos, CA 95030-4360 From rip at devco.net Wed Jul 20 09:46:28 2005 From: rip at devco.net (R.I.Pienaar) Date: Wed Jul 20 09:46:34 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Missing Missing-sync-pocketpc In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20050720164628.GY67509@devco.net> It is a shocking example of just how a company can completely miss the plot as far as customer communication goes. I've been pondering a article to CNet or The Register, I think this continues blanket black out on customer communication should be an example to the world on how not to do it. On Wed Jul 20, 2005 at 10:53:24AM -0400, Jay Levenson wrote: > I don't know about everyone else, but I'm about to give up on MarkSpace. > -- > Jay Levenson > > > 703 White Horse Rd., Suite 1 > Voorhees, NJ 08043 > 856-679-0490 x211 > > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk -- R.I. Pienaar rip@devco.net http://www.devco.net/ "A Million Faces Each a Million Lies" From rip at devco.net Wed Jul 20 09:47:52 2005 From: rip at devco.net (R.I.Pienaar) Date: Wed Jul 20 09:47:55 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Missing Missing-sync-pocketpc In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20050720164752.GZ67509@devco.net> hello, I also agree that it is a tough job and one that can easily overshoot plans and deadlines, but does any of this mean you have to keep your customer base completely in the dark? no. On Wed Jul 20, 2005 at 04:30:26PM +0100, Tim Lawson wrote: > I agree with Dave on this one. One solution is Sprite software's (in > my view excellent) Sprite Backup which I use to backup to a CF or SD > card. This can then either be left at a safe location or taken with > the device. > > Tim. > > > On 20 Jul 2005, at 16:25, Dave and Jay wrote: > > >Jay. Just my opinion but coding SW and interfacing the code to > >anoher application is not like getting work done on your car. There > >are no standard job times on how long it will take. I would rather > >wait for it to be developed and work correctly than get it and have > >errors that drive you crazy tring to debug. There are many other > >options available to work around issues. I have been keeping my > >calendar hardcopy and printing it each night. My contacts are still > >in my device from my previous connection (with a PC) and I > >replicate avantgo and review E-mails at local hotspots. Sure it is > >inconvenient but I am for still waiting. > >Dave Asaibene > > > >On Jul 20, 2005, at 9:53 AM, Jay Levenson wrote: > > > > > >>I don't know about everyone else, but I'm about to give up on > >>MarkSpace. > >>-- > >>Jay Levenson > >> > >> > >>703 White Horse Rd., Suite 1 > >>Voorhees, NJ 08043 > >>856-679-0490 x211 > >> > >> > >> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > >>missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > >>Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives > >>can be found at: > >>http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc- > >>talk > >> > > > >_______________________________________________ > >missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > >missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > >Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives > >can be found at: > >http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be > found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > -- R.I. Pienaar rip@devco.net http://www.devco.net/ "A Million Faces Each a Million Lies" From lejongleur at earthlink.net Wed Jul 20 14:18:07 2005 From: lejongleur at earthlink.net (Jonathan Greenberg) Date: Wed Jul 20 14:18:17 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Missing Missing-sync-pocketpc In-Reply-To: <20050720164752.GZ67509@devco.net> References: <20050720164752.GZ67509@devco.net> Message-ID: <42DEBF8F.7000902@earthlink.net> I don't mean to offend anyone, but, to be perfectly honest, I can't help but wonder if those of you writing messages in support of Mark/Space aren't actually on their payroll. I asked about two weeks ago, in the most polite words I could find, that they post a message every now and then to this list to update those of us who have decided thus far not to jump ship. True to form, they have since neither replied to my message nor reported on any progress -- until today, if you consider "we're ... in the final stretch", posted by Mark/Space's Brian Hall, a progress report. I only hope that they don't offend so many customers that they have to go out of business, leaving us ultimately with no product at all. But to say that you'd rather wait indefinitely for a reliable product, with no reliable hint as to a genuine time frame -- honestly, on what planet is that considered reasonable? Jonathan Greenberg ----- Original Message ----- *From:* "R.I.Pienaar" *To:* "The Missing Sync (Mac/Pocket PC)" *Sent:* Wed, Jul 20, 2005 12:47:52 pm *Subject:* [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Missing Missing-sync-pocketpc >hello, > >I also agree that it is a tough job and one that can easily overshoot plans >and deadlines, but does any of this mean you have to keep your customer base >completely in the dark? no. > >On Wed Jul 20, 2005 at 04:30:26PM +0100, Tim Lawson wrote: > > >>I agree with Dave on this one. One solution is Sprite software's (in >>my view excellent) Sprite Backup which I use to backup to a CF or SD >>card. This can then either be left at a safe location or taken with >>the device. >> >>Tim. >> >> >>On 20 Jul 2005, at 16:25, Dave and Jay wrote: >> >> >> >>>Jay. Just my opinion but coding SW and interfacing the code to >>>anoher application is not like getting work done on your car. There >>>are no standard job times on how long it will take. I would rather >>>wait for it to be developed and work correctly than get it and have >>>errors that drive you crazy tring to debug. There are many other >>>options available to work around issues. I have been keeping my >>>calendar hardcopy and printing it each night. My contacts are still >>>in my device from my previous connection (with a PC) and I >>>replicate avantgo and review E-mails at local hotspots. Sure it is >>>inconvenient but I am for still waiting. >>>Dave Asaibene >>> >>>On Jul 20, 2005, at 9:53 AM, Jay Levenson wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>I don't know about everyone else, but I'm about to give up on >>>>MarkSpace. >>>>-- >>>>Jay Levenson >>>> >>>> >>>>703 White Horse Rd., Suite 1 >>>>Voorhees, NJ 08043 >>>>856-679-0490 x211 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list >>>>missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com >>>>Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives >>>>can be found at: >>>>http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc- >>>>talk >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list >>>missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com >>>Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives >>>can be found at: >>>http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk >>> >>> >>> >>_______________________________________________ >>missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list >>missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com >>Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be >>found at: >>http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk >> >> >> > > > From rip at devco.net Wed Jul 20 14:28:46 2005 From: rip at devco.net (R.I.Pienaar) Date: Wed Jul 20 14:28:49 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Missing Missing-sync-pocketpc In-Reply-To: <42DEBF8F.7000902@earthlink.net> References: <20050720164752.GZ67509@devco.net> <42DEBF8F.7000902@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <20050720212846.GA67509@devco.net> hello, Yip, exactly. I'll be counting to a few 100, and once calmed down I'll be writing letters to any and all tech websites that deals in mac software to let them know and ask to please warn proespective buyers about this company, its the most unprofessional bunch of people I've had the misfortune to deal with in my life. On Wed Jul 20, 2005 at 05:18:07PM -0400, Jonathan Greenberg wrote: > I don't mean to offend anyone, but, to be perfectly honest, I can't help > but wonder if those of you writing messages in support of Mark/Space > aren't actually on their payroll. > > I asked about two weeks ago, in the most polite words I could find, that > they post a message every now and then to this list to update those of > us who have decided thus far not to jump ship. True to form, they have > since neither replied to my message nor reported on any progress -- > until today, if you consider "we're ... in the final stretch", posted by > Mark/Space's Brian Hall, a progress report. I only hope that they don't > offend so many customers that they have to go out of business, leaving > us ultimately with no product at all. > > But to say that you'd rather wait indefinitely for a reliable product, > with no reliable hint as to a genuine time frame -- honestly, on what > planet is that considered reasonable? > > Jonathan Greenberg > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* "R.I.Pienaar" > *To:* "The Missing Sync (Mac/Pocket PC)" > > *Sent:* Wed, Jul 20, 2005 12:47:52 pm > *Subject:* [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Missing Missing-sync-pocketpc > > > > >hello, > > > >I also agree that it is a tough job and one that can easily overshoot plans > >and deadlines, but does any of this mean you have to keep your customer > >base > >completely in the dark? no. > > > >On Wed Jul 20, 2005 at 04:30:26PM +0100, Tim Lawson wrote: > > > > > >>I agree with Dave on this one. One solution is Sprite software's (in > >>my view excellent) Sprite Backup which I use to backup to a CF or SD > >>card. This can then either be left at a safe location or taken with > >>the device. > >> > >>Tim. > >> > >> > >>On 20 Jul 2005, at 16:25, Dave and Jay wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>Jay. Just my opinion but coding SW and interfacing the code to > >>>anoher application is not like getting work done on your car. There > >>>are no standard job times on how long it will take. I would rather > >>>wait for it to be developed and work correctly than get it and have > >>>errors that drive you crazy tring to debug. There are many other > >>>options available to work around issues. I have been keeping my > >>>calendar hardcopy and printing it each night. My contacts are still > >>>in my device from my previous connection (with a PC) and I > >>>replicate avantgo and review E-mails at local hotspots. Sure it is > >>>inconvenient but I am for still waiting. > >>>Dave Asaibene > >>> > >>>On Jul 20, 2005, at 9:53 AM, Jay Levenson wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>I don't know about everyone else, but I'm about to give up on > >>>>MarkSpace. > >>>>-- > >>>>Jay Levenson > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>703 White Horse Rd., Suite 1 > >>>>Voorhees, NJ 08043 > >>>>856-679-0490 x211 > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>_______________________________________________ > >>>>missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > >>>>missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > >>>>Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives > >>>>can be found at: > >>>>http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc- > >>>>talk > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>_______________________________________________ > >>>missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > >>>missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > >>>Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives > >>>can be found at: > >>>http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > >>missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > >>Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be > >>found at: > >>http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be > found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > -- R.I. Pienaar rip@devco.net http://www.devco.net/ "A Million Faces Each a Million Lies" From coreymclaughlin at mac.com Wed Jul 20 14:58:06 2005 From: coreymclaughlin at mac.com (Corey McLaughlin) Date: Wed Jul 20 14:58:12 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Missing Missing-sync-pocketpc In-Reply-To: <20050720212846.GA67509@devco.net> References: <20050720164752.GZ67509@devco.net> <42DEBF8F.7000902@earthlink.net> <20050720212846.GA67509@devco.net> Message-ID: First off I do NOT work for Mark Space, Inc. and and mot involved with them in any way. I am only a customer. But all these comments are the reason why software companies do not give release dates until they are releasing it. The first mistake they made was announcing they would release it before the end of June. Since they did announce this they should drop a line maybe once a week or so and give us an update on their progress. All of this talk is going to do is make them stay quite about the release and when it's coming. But I would ask this of them. Why not let those of us who are willing to take the product in beta form and help test it. This would make some of us happy while bide the time until release. Corey McLaughlin www.mobileminds.com On Jul 20, 2005, at 4:28 PM, R.I.Pienaar wrote: > hello, > > Yip, exactly. I'll be counting to a few 100, and once calmed down > I'll be > writing letters to any and all tech websites that deals in mac > software to let > them know and ask to please warn proespective buyers about this > company, its > the most unprofessional bunch of people I've had the misfortune to > deal with > in my life. > > On Wed Jul 20, 2005 at 05:18:07PM -0400, Jonathan Greenberg wrote: > >> I don't mean to offend anyone, but, to be perfectly honest, I >> can't help >> but wonder if those of you writing messages in support of Mark/Space >> aren't actually on their payroll. >> >> I asked about two weeks ago, in the most polite words I could >> find, that >> they post a message every now and then to this list to update >> those of >> us who have decided thus far not to jump ship. True to form, they >> have >> since neither replied to my message nor reported on any progress -- >> until today, if you consider "we're ... in the final stretch", >> posted by >> Mark/Space's Brian Hall, a progress report. I only hope that they >> don't >> offend so many customers that they have to go out of business, >> leaving >> us ultimately with no product at all. >> >> But to say that you'd rather wait indefinitely for a reliable >> product, >> with no reliable hint as to a genuine time frame -- honestly, on what >> planet is that considered reasonable? >> >> Jonathan Greenberg >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* "R.I.Pienaar" >> *To:* "The Missing Sync (Mac/Pocket PC)" >> >> *Sent:* Wed, Jul 20, 2005 12:47:52 pm >> *Subject:* [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Missing Missing-sync-pocketpc >> >> >> >> >>> hello, >>> >>> I also agree that it is a tough job and one that can easily >>> overshoot plans >>> and deadlines, but does any of this mean you have to keep your >>> customer >>> base >>> completely in the dark? no. >>> >>> On Wed Jul 20, 2005 at 04:30:26PM +0100, Tim Lawson wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> I agree with Dave on this one. One solution is Sprite >>>> software's (in >>>> my view excellent) Sprite Backup which I use to backup to a CF >>>> or SD >>>> card. This can then either be left at a safe location or taken >>>> with >>>> the device. >>>> >>>> Tim. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 20 Jul 2005, at 16:25, Dave and Jay wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Jay. Just my opinion but coding SW and interfacing the code to >>>>> anoher application is not like getting work done on your car. >>>>> There >>>>> are no standard job times on how long it will take. I would rather >>>>> wait for it to be developed and work correctly than get it and >>>>> have >>>>> errors that drive you crazy tring to debug. There are many other >>>>> options available to work around issues. I have been keeping my >>>>> calendar hardcopy and printing it each night. My contacts are >>>>> still >>>>> in my device from my previous connection (with a PC) and I >>>>> replicate avantgo and review E-mails at local hotspots. Sure it is >>>>> inconvenient but I am for still waiting. >>>>> Dave Asaibene >>>>> >>>>> On Jul 20, 2005, at 9:53 AM, Jay Levenson wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> I don't know about everyone else, but I'm about to give up on >>>>>> MarkSpace. >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Jay Levenson >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 703 White Horse Rd., Suite 1 >>>>>> Voorhees, NJ 08043 >>>>>> 856-679-0490 x211 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list >>>>>> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com >>>>>> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives >>>>>> can be found at: >>>>>> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync- >>>>>> pocketpc- >>>>>> talk >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list >>>>> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com >>>>> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives >>>>> can be found at: >>>>> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync- >>>>> pocketpc-talk >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list >>>> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com >>>> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives >>>> can be >>>> found at: >>>> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync- >>>> pocketpc-talk >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com >> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives >> can be >> found at: >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc- >> talk >> >> > > -- > R.I. Pienaar rip@devco.net http://www.devco.net/ > > "A Million Faces Each a Million Lies" > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives > can be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > From brettenwolf at mac.com Wed Jul 20 15:09:37 2005 From: brettenwolf at mac.com (brettenwolf@mac.com) Date: Wed Jul 20 15:09:42 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Missing Missing-sync-pocketpc Message-ID: <2297716.1121897379422.JavaMail.teamon@b216.teamon.com> I just can't believe that a company would be caught so far off guard by an OS upgrade they knew was coming ... it is as if they were not on the Apple Developer's list and started working on compatibility issue after the fact. They should have been honest and encouraged us to find interim solutions and only reported on a product when it was out of betatesting! This is NOT how a software company is supposed to run! -----Original Message----- From: "R.I.Pienaar" Sent: 7/20/05 4:28:46 PM To: "The Missing Sync (Mac/Pocket PC)" Subject: Re: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Missing Missing-sync-pocketpc hello, Yip, exactly. I'll be counting to a few 100, and once calmed down I'll be writing letters to any and all tech websites that deals in mac software to let them know and ask to please warn proespective buyers about this company, its the most unprofessional bunch of people I've had the misfortune to deal with in my life. On Wed Jul 20, 2005 at 05:18:07PM -0400, Jonathan Greenberg wrote: > I don't mean to offend anyone, but, to be perfectly honest, I can't help > but wonder if those of you writing messages in support of Mark/Space > aren't actually on their payroll. > > I asked about two weeks ago, in the most polite words I could find, that > they post a message every now and then to this list to update those of > us who have decided thus far not to jump ship. True to form, they have > since neither replied to my message nor reported on any progress -- > until today, if you consider "we're ... in the final stretch", posted by > Mark/Space's Brian Hall, a progress report. I only hope that they don't > offend so many customers that they have to go out of business, leaving > us ultimately with no product at all. > > But to say that you'd rather wait indefinitely for a reliable product, > with no reliable hint as to a genuine time frame -- honestly, on what > planet is that considered reasonable? > > Jonathan Greenberg > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* "R.I.Pienaar" > *To:* "The Missing Sync (Mac/Pocket PC)" > > *Sent:* Wed, Jul 20, 2005 12:47:52 pm > *Subject:* [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Missing Missing-sync-pocketpc > > > > >hello, > > > >I also agree that it is a tough job and one that can easily overshoot plans > >and deadlines, but does any of this mean you have to keep your customer > >base > >completely in the dark? no. > > > >On Wed Jul 20, 2005 at 04:30:26PM +0100, Tim Lawson wrote: > > > > > >>I agree with Dave on this one. One solution is Sprite software's (in > >>my view excellent) Sprite Backup which I use to backup to a CF or SD > >>card. This can then either be left at a safe location or taken with > >>the device. > >> > >>Tim. > >> > >> > >>On 20 Jul 2005, at 16:25, Dave and Jay wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>Jay. Just my opinion but coding SW and interfacing the code to > >>>anoher application is not like getting work done on your car. There > >>>are no standard job times on how long it will take. I would rather > >>>wait for it to be developed and work correctly than get it and have > >>>errors that drive you crazy tring to debug. There are many other > >>>options available to work around issues. I have been keeping my > >>>calendar hardcopy and printing it each night. My contacts are still > >>>in my device from my previous connection (with a PC) and I > >>>replicate avantgo and review E-mails at local hotspots. Sure it is > >>>inconvenient but I am for still waiting. > >>>Dave Asaibene > >>> > >>>On Jul 20, 2005, at 9:53 AM, Jay Levenson wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>I don't know about everyone else, but I'm about to give up on > >>>>MarkSpace. > >>>>-- > >>>>Jay Levenson > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>703 White Horse Rd., Suite 1 > >>>>Voorhees, NJ 08043 > >>>>856-679-0490 x211 > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>_______________________________________________ > >>>>missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > >>>>missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > >>>>Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives > >>>>can be found at: > >>>>http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc- > >>>>talk > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>_______________________________________________ > >>>missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > >>>missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > >>>Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives > >>>can be found at: > >>>http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > >>missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > >>Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be > >>found at: > >>http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be > found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > -- R.I. Pienaar rip@devco.net http://www.devco.net/ "A Million Faces Each a Million Lies" _______________________________________________ missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found at: http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk From rip at devco.net Wed Jul 20 15:09:59 2005 From: rip at devco.net (R.I.Pienaar) Date: Wed Jul 20 15:10:02 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Missing Missing-sync-pocketpc In-Reply-To: References: <20050720164752.GZ67509@devco.net> <42DEBF8F.7000902@earthlink.net> <20050720212846.GA67509@devco.net> Message-ID: <20050720220959.GB67509@devco.net> hello, > they would release it before the end of June. Since they did announce > this they should drop a line maybe once a week or so and give us an > update on their progress. correct, we have many times said here we do not want a due date, but we want a progress report, 1 sentence token reports do not count. people have been understanding and eventhough I think they are the worst customer relationship bunch known to man I'll still buy the product when it eventually comes out, the very least they can do is show some reciprocating support to their users. > release and when it's coming. But I would ask this of them. Why not > let those of us who are willing to take the product in beta form and > help test it. This would make some of us happy while bide the time > until release. There is a beta program, one that requires you to fax all sorts of NDA's to them etc, personally I couldnt be bothered with that. From eullman at markspace.com Wed Jul 20 15:13:14 2005 From: eullman at markspace.com (Eric Ullman) Date: Wed Jul 20 15:13:19 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Update on Missing Sync for Windows Mobile Message-ID: Greetings, The Missing Sync for Windows Mobile v2.0 will ship this month. There are still a few issues being worked out, but things are looking good. Thanks for hanging in there. Best regards, Eric -- Eric Ullman Director of Sales and Marketing Mark/Space, Inc. eullman@markspace.com From dramsey at neko.com Wed Jul 20 15:17:51 2005 From: dramsey at neko.com (David Ramsey) Date: Wed Jul 20 15:17:52 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Missing Missing-sync-pocketpc In-Reply-To: <20050720220959.GB67509@devco.net> References: <20050720164752.GZ67509@devco.net> <42DEBF8F.7000902@earthlink.net> <20050720212846.GA67509@devco.net> <20050720220959.GB67509@devco.net> Message-ID: <06E73947-0251-493C-B4B3-7A6A8A14DE0F@neko.com> On Jul 20, 2005, at 3:09 PM, R.I.Pienaar wrote: > hello, > > >> they would release it before the end of June. Since they did announce >> this they should drop a line maybe once a week or so and give us an >> update on their progress. >> > > correct, we have many times said here we do not want a due date, > but we want a > progress report, 1 sentence token reports do not count. people > have been > understanding and eventhough I think they are the worst customer > relationship > bunch known to man I'll still buy the product when it eventually > comes out, > the very least they can do is show some reciprocating support to > their users. No software company in the world will give users detailed progress reports on the development of a new commercial product in a public forum. It's terrible business practice both legally and technically (legally, because unless you're very careful about what you say, you could be giving an implied warranty, and technically, because you're giving your competitors an inside look at your development process). I've been in the software business for more than 20 years and have never seen this done. > > >> release and when it's coming. But I would ask this of them. Why not >> let those of us who are willing to take the product in beta form and >> help test it. This would make some of us happy while bide the time >> until release. >> > > There is a beta program, one that requires you to fax all sorts of > NDA's to > them etc, personally I couldnt be bothered with that. Well, then, you shouldn't expect to the "bothered" with testing new versions of the software. It would be stupid of Mark Space to put out beta software and solicit public comment. You need a formal mechanism for tracking bug reports and following through on issues, which is why you have beta programs. Throwing a beta product out to the public and trying to deal with random e-mail bug reports just doesn't work. -- David Ramsey From thomas at elements.dk Wed Jul 20 15:18:43 2005 From: thomas at elements.dk (Thomas von Hassel) Date: Wed Jul 20 15:18:53 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Missing Missing-sync-pocketpc In-Reply-To: <20050720220959.GB67509@devco.net> References: <20050720164752.GZ67509@devco.net> <42DEBF8F.7000902@earthlink.net> <20050720212846.GA67509@devco.net> <20050720220959.GB67509@devco.net> Message-ID: On Jul 21, 2005, at 00:09, R.I.Pienaar wrote: > correct, we have many times said here we do not want a due date, > but we want a > progress report, What would you like them to write in such a progress report then ? .. they obviously can't say much more than "were working on it..." for reasons that should be, well, obvious ? /thomas From rip at devco.net Wed Jul 20 15:43:38 2005 From: rip at devco.net (R.I.Pienaar) Date: Wed Jul 20 15:43:41 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Missing Missing-sync-pocketpc In-Reply-To: References: <20050720164752.GZ67509@devco.net> <42DEBF8F.7000902@earthlink.net> <20050720212846.GA67509@devco.net> <20050720220959.GB67509@devco.net> Message-ID: <20050720224338.GC67509@devco.net> hello, I agree its a difficult position to be in, but a bit of thought on the matter could certainly have come up with something. Without really thinking this one through the first thing that came to my head is this: 1) they missed the deadline for last month 2) they notify us saying that they will keep us posted with weekly updates 3) they look at their open issues list, lets say there are 20, assign that 100% of open issues 4) weekly they send an update of what % of open issues exist. This wouldnt be giving away the feature list, how many issues there, heck there could be 1 issue and they can assign progress to resolving it in %'s we wouldnt know eitherway. What we would have is a visible progression towards the goal. Like I said this is the first thing that came to my mind, it may be fatally flawed I did not think it fully through, all I'm saying is you can be creative about this sort of thing. As for open Betas, if the other poster say its something that absolutely no1 ever does then he's obviously not been using the same Internet I've been using. On Thu Jul 21, 2005 at 12:18:43AM +0200, Thomas von Hassel wrote: > > On Jul 21, 2005, at 00:09, R.I.Pienaar wrote: > > >correct, we have many times said here we do not want a due date, > >but we want a > >progress report, > > What would you like them to write in such a progress report then ? .. > they obviously can't say much more than "were working on it..." for > reasons that should be, well, obvious ? > > > /thomas > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be > found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > -- R.I. Pienaar rip@devco.net http://www.devco.net/ "A Million Faces Each a Million Lies" From walter at walterobrien.com Wed Jul 20 16:31:16 2005 From: walter at walterobrien.com (Walter O'Brien) Date: Wed Jul 20 16:31:22 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Re: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk Digest, Vol 30, Issue 10 In-Reply-To: <200507202211.j6KMAgv9010475@sparrow.markspace.com> References: <200507202211.j6KMAgv9010475@sparrow.markspace.com> Message-ID: <0BC01840-316B-47C2-8A24-5D64E258E0DB@walterobrien.com> Jeez, people, so the Tiger version is a bit delayed, what software doesn't get delayed now and then, and besides, what's our choice? PocketMac never worked one time for me, never synced correctly or completely, moved dates, ate data, duplicated contacts by the hundreds. And their "tech service" is a blind mailbox as near as I can tell. Never a response past the first "send us your log and we'll get back to you." NEVER, and I submitted DOZENS of "tickets" for help and phoned them dozens of times at MY expense. At least Mark Space attempted to help me (never got a working sync here either unfortunately) many times, and when they hit a snag they couldn't pass, they gave me my money back without me asking! I'll stick around here and hope they get a Tiger version working, whenever. The damage is already done - by me spending $700+ bucks on a PocketPC pda phone thanks to listening to PocketMac's totally false claims. I never should have left the Palm platform and would go back today if the Samsung wasn't such a nice machine and already paid for. My "solution" was to also use Sprite Backup onto a Smart Media card, so at least I get backups, then I put the backups into a folder on the Mac for upkeeping. Once or twice a year to archive my calendar to print for taxes and documentation of my life, such that it is ;-) - i backup reluctantly to a Windows laptop running Outlook and print the Calendar from there. WO From robertsilber at charter.net Wed Jul 20 18:34:31 2005 From: robertsilber at charter.net (Robert Silber) Date: Wed Jul 20 18:34:48 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Re: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk Digest, Vol 30, Issue 10 In-Reply-To: <200507202210.j6KMAeBO010455@sparrow.markspace.com> Message-ID: Patience is a virtue; lovingkindness goes a long way toward healthy relationships; hostility leads to hatreds and the world is too full of that now. That being said, I too am anxiously waiting for the new release of Missing Sync, and I will patiently wait until they are satisfied that their product will do as promised. I tried the software offered by Pocket Mac and found it to be totally unreliable, failing to reliably sync my calendar and in fact jumbling my appointments, so I appreciate the wait while they finish writing code and testing this product. For this short wait (in the universal realm of time) I am simply printing my calendar and doing it the way we all did before PDA's. Don't worry...the sun will still rise in the morning! For those who are quick to criticize, why not try Pocket Mac and see how happy you are--or are not. Or try writing your own code and releasing your own product. In the boardroom, if someone offers a criticism, they had better offer a solution. If you want to grip, offer an alternative product. Competition is good for the industry and the consumer. Mac users would all benefit from more choices--maybe the product you create will be wonderful, maybe you can write it with no flaws and maybe you can do it quickly with no one complaining about you. Bob Silber, Mac user and PDA owner. > From: > Reply-To: > Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 15:10:40 -0700 > To: > Subject: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk Digest, Vol 30, Issue 10 > > Send missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list submissions to > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-request@lists.markspace.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-owner@lists.markspace.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of missing-sync-pocketpc-talk digest..." > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > _______________________________________________ > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Missing Missing-sync-pocketpc (Jonathan Greenberg) > 2. Re: Missing Missing-sync-pocketpc (R.I.Pienaar) > 3. Re: Missing Missing-sync-pocketpc (Corey McLaughlin) > 4. Re: Missing Missing-sync-pocketpc (brettenwolf@mac.com) > 5. Re: Missing Missing-sync-pocketpc (R.I.Pienaar) > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk From mojomo_99 at yahoo.com Wed Jul 20 19:23:53 2005 From: mojomo_99 at yahoo.com (MJ MAHONEY) Date: Wed Jul 20 19:23:56 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Release Date Message-ID: <20050721022353.78464.qmail@web33109.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I, too, do not work for MarkSpace, but am really glad they exist. I used a Palm for years and on the final T5 could not get my Mac to like it at all. I then went to an IPAQ and love it, and I had no problems with Missing Sync on my old Mac software. I will wait until the bugs are out, and respect the work they have to do. I am just a little impulsive and would love to have some kind of time frame on release date. Thank god I can update my calendar on my computer and can separately update that same calendar on the IPAQ when I need to. I just can't wait for the new release, and hey MarkSpace---take your time and do it right. I promise, I will be patient and not say another thing----really!!!!! MJ ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From hponnu at gmail.com Wed Jul 20 22:25:28 2005 From: hponnu at gmail.com (Hemantha K. Ponnuru) Date: Wed Jul 20 22:25:39 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Release Date In-Reply-To: <20050721022353.78464.qmail@web33109.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20050721022353.78464.qmail@web33109.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <866BC4ED-4910-4D1F-82F1-262FA914759D@gmail.com> I am in dire need of some software that will sync my PocketPC with my Mac but I don't want to end up using lesser quality software just because it is available. Please make sure you release a good quality software and I am willing to wait for it and of course pay for it (I am not rich and I am not an employee of MarkSpace Inc. I am just a true Mac fan, lover of good software!). From stationfarm at gmail.com Thu Jul 21 02:40:19 2005 From: stationfarm at gmail.com (Tim Lawson) Date: Thu Jul 21 02:40:56 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Re: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk Digest, Vol 30, Issue 10 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6CA7BF23-1FA9-4A4B-98BB-BCF8BF4F0D3B@gmail.com> ... and in addition, don't forget that MS have recently released WM2005 so all devs have had to ensure compatibility with three PPC OSs - 2003, 2003SE and WM2005 as well as OSX updates etc. (And I'm not connected to MarkSpace other than being a customer). The bottom lines to me are: 1 Delays are not appreciated by customers who understandably get very frustrated. 2 Software released with known bugs are not appreciated by customers who understandably get very frustrated. 3 MarkSpace should not have given a release date at any point. 4 Having missed a given deadline, MarkSpace should live up to their commitment to their customers and do what they say they will do (keep us informed). 5 MarkSpace should learn by the comments posted here so as not to repeat the same errors in the future. 6 Customers sufficiently frustrated by actions of which they do not approve should 'vote with their feet' but avoid a slanging match. I must say I did find it peculiar that Eric Ullman (Sales and Marketing Director, MarkSpace) chose to mention (in a post to this forum on 29th June) the fact that he was "out of town for a family wedding" as being part of the reason for not supplying timely information as to the delayed release schedule. Just my ten cents... Tim. PS: I bought my first Mac in early February this year. I see I bought The Missing Sync on 14th February and Tiger on the day of its release - 29th April. This means I have only been able to sync my PPC for 2 and a half months. I'm hoping MarkSpace will agree to let me upgrade free since I missed the official free upgrade date by only 6 weeks... On 21 Jul 2005, at 02:34, Robert Silber wrote: > Patience is a virtue; lovingkindness goes a long way toward healthy > relationships; hostility leads to hatreds and the world is too full > of that > now. > > That being said, I too am anxiously waiting for the new release of > Missing > Sync, and I will patiently wait until they are satisfied that their > product > will do as promised. I tried the software offered by Pocket Mac and > found it > to be totally unreliable, failing to reliably sync my calendar and > in fact > jumbling my appointments, so I appreciate the wait while they > finish writing > code and testing this product. For this short wait (in the > universal realm > of time) I am simply printing my calendar and doing it the way we > all did > before PDA's. Don't worry...the sun will still rise in the morning! > > For those who are quick to criticize, why not try Pocket Mac and > see how > happy you are--or are not. Or try writing your own code and > releasing your > own product. In the boardroom, if someone offers a criticism, they had > better offer a solution. If you want to grip, offer an alternative > product. > Competition is good for the industry and the consumer. Mac users > would all > benefit from more choices--maybe the product you create will be > wonderful, > maybe you can write it with no flaws and maybe you can do it > quickly with no > one complaining about you. > > Bob Silber, Mac user and PDA owner. > > > >> From: >> Reply-To: >> Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 15:10:40 -0700 >> To: >> Subject: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk Digest, Vol 30, Issue 10 >> >> Send missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list submissions to >> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc- >> talk >> >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-request@lists.markspace.com >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-owner@lists.markspace.com >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of missing-sync-pocketpc-talk digest..." >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com >> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives >> can be found >> at: >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc- >> talk >> _______________________________________________ >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Missing Missing-sync-pocketpc (Jonathan Greenberg) >> 2. Re: Missing Missing-sync-pocketpc (R.I.Pienaar) >> 3. Re: Missing Missing-sync-pocketpc (Corey McLaughlin) >> 4. Re: Missing Missing-sync-pocketpc (brettenwolf@mac.com) >> 5. Re: Missing Missing-sync-pocketpc (R.I.Pienaar) >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com >> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives >> can be found >> at: >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc- >> talk >> > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives > can be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > From shane at shasam.net Thu Jul 21 03:16:41 2005 From: shane at shasam.net (Shane Lord) Date: Thu Jul 21 03:16:52 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] The "Missing" Missing Sync for Windows Mobile In-Reply-To: <200507210942.j6L9gK3X004085@sparrow.markspace.com> References: <200507210942.j6L9gK3X004085@sparrow.markspace.com> Message-ID: <896C55D6-EBA9-47DA-BD5D-B6195A331492@shasam.net> To be honest, I am disappointed that Missing Sync for Windows Mobile is, well, missing... but I am still eagerly awaiting it's arrival and will purchase it on the day it is released. My reasons why are: 1. I have tried PocketMac Lite and PocketMac Pro, and both are software products that have caused no end of problems for me... - Multiple syncing issues - The installation failed multiple times - The un-installation left pieces of the software all over my Mac - The program locks up intermittently - They (PocketMac) do not allow and have no plans to allow syncing a PocketPC and a MS Smartphone to one Mac... just can't be done (they sell you two pieces of different software for it - as if they are that different from each other!). 2. I have tried using a Palm Tungsten T5 instead... and whilst the device is great and all, the isync conduit from Apple is shockingly lacking in features. Yes it syncs my contacts and calendars etc, but it does not: - support Categories (such as multiple calendars in iCal or groups in Address Book) - Calendar Locations in iCal - Multiple address types and extra fields (as supported in the new Palm apps and Address Book on Mac) So I am more than happy to wait for a PocketPC sync that will actually do everything for my handheld that it is capable of doing... I am sick of being treated as a second class citizen because I choose to use a Mac... and that is how Palm and PocketMac treat us at the moment. So bring it on MarkSpace... I'll keep checking your website for the big "it's done!" message so I can get on with getting on. Oh - I don't work for them either :) Thanks, Shane. From Alain at Grach.fr Thu Jul 21 03:19:17 2005 From: Alain at Grach.fr (Alain Grach) Date: Thu Jul 21 03:19:33 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Problems Missing Sync and french accent Message-ID: Hello, I'm french, when I add a note to an address on the PPC (Mio 168) with french accents (like ?, ?, or ?) when I do an ISync with Missing Sync installed, this note is translated in the address book of the Mac by : Non text data - do not modify <5468e9e2 7....etc... When I add a note to an address on the Mac (in Address Book), when I do an ISync with Missing Sync installed, the letters with accent are not correctly transfered on the PPC, by exemple : Th?atre S?maphore (on the Mac) is translated : Th??atre S??maphore (with strange characters on the PPC). How can i add a note with french accent ? I have send this mail to the support of MarkSpace, here is the answer : Those characters are supported, but it is the conduit that determines what gets synced and how. Do the characters sync ok if you enter them into the applications on the Mac? They should. The problem you are having appears to be the limitations of iSync syncing those fields, not so much the characters. --Dave It's not a usefull answer -- Note : Je refuse que mon adresse email soit m?moris?e, redistribu?e ou utilis?e ? toute fin commerciale y compris le mailing commercial sans mon autorisation explicite. From rip at devco.net Thu Jul 21 03:27:41 2005 From: rip at devco.net (R.I.Pienaar) Date: Thu Jul 21 03:27:44 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Re: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk Digest, Vol 30, Issue 10 In-Reply-To: <6CA7BF23-1FA9-4A4B-98BB-BCF8BF4F0D3B@gmail.com> References: <6CA7BF23-1FA9-4A4B-98BB-BCF8BF4F0D3B@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20050721102741.GG67509@devco.net> > PS: I bought my first Mac in early February this year. I see I > bought The Missing Sync on 14th February and Tiger on the day of its > release - 29th April. This means I have only been able to sync my > PPC for 2 and a half months. I'm hoping MarkSpace will agree to let > me upgrade free since I missed the official free upgrade date by only > 6 weeks... you'd think? I missed it by a week or two, maybe even days I cant recall now, given the really bad expectation management they should be shifting the grace period for free updates back significantly. From Mark at LBIhome.com Thu Jul 21 04:59:15 2005 From: Mark at LBIhome.com (Mark S. Londner) Date: Thu Jul 21 04:59:19 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Re: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk Digest, Vol 30, Issue 10 In-Reply-To: <20050721102741.GG67509@devco.net> References: <6CA7BF23-1FA9-4A4B-98BB-BCF8BF4F0D3B@gmail.com> <20050721102741.GG67509@devco.net> Message-ID: <6A14C6FB-BF30-4570-A1E1-F2DA377CEF76@LBIhome.com> Markspace -- I purchased my Mac on 2/25/05, ordered Missing Sync on 3/13/05 (inv #36223A) ordered replacement of a defective iPaq on 3/30/05 purchased Tiger on 4/29/05 installed Tiger on 7/29/05 uninstalled Missing Sync on 6/15/05 After numerous problems with synchronization, and much time spent only to determine my iPac was the problem, replaced it and again began to learn how to use both the iPaq (the first handheld I've ever had) and Missing Sync the first week of April. Subsequently (see above) installed Tiger and quit using the iPaq, which I was just getting the hang of, and relying on very heavily. So, as you see (as you know) I've been without it for the past 12 weeks (very frustrating to say the least). Since Markspace has set 4/01/05 at the "free replacement" date, I either missed it by a maximum of 19 days (or 1 day, as the iPaq replacement date is concerned). In view of the delay in the "shipping" of The Missing Sync forthcoming replacement, I hereby request Markspace will honor the fact that I was just beginning to get comfortable with said software, and hardly even got to use it before Tiger was installed and rendered it incompatible, and send me a new CD without any additional "purchase" on my part. I will continue to be patient, as I prefer you get the "bugs out" before releasing the new version and I (not a computer wizard) install it. But; I, as you well know, along with others, am rather anxious. Please, let's process my request now (not wait for "it's release") so as soon as it's available you will send me a new CD at no additional charge. I thank you in advance for most likely granting this most fair and reasonable request. Mark Londner __________________________________________________________________ Mark S. Londner, AIA ASHI, NOVA ASHI, VAREI, VACHI (Virginia Certified Home Inspector) LBI Home Inspection 540-668-6339 www.LBIhome.com Mark@LBIhome.com 15547 Honey Locust Lane Purcellville, Virginia, 20132-2761 On Jul 21, 2005, at 6:27 AM, R.I.Pienaar wrote: > > >> PS: I bought my first Mac in early February this year. I see I >> bought The Missing Sync on 14th February and Tiger on the day of its >> release - 29th April. This means I have only been able to sync my >> PPC for 2 and a half months. I'm hoping MarkSpace will agree to let >> me upgrade free since I missed the official free upgrade date by only >> 6 weeks... >> > > you'd think? I missed it by a week or two, maybe even days I cant > recall now, > given the really bad expectation management they should be shifting > the grace > period for free updates back significantly. > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives > can be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > > From michael at elsdenimages.com Thu Jul 21 07:00:05 2005 From: michael at elsdenimages.com (Michael Williams) Date: Thu Jul 21 07:00:26 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Release of missing-sync-pocketpc Message-ID: I too work with software developers and appreciate how much time and effort goes into major projects such as these. Customers always want the new product 'now' and it's a tough job being in the hot-seat... not one I envy. The difference here is that for those of us who have upgraded to Tiger are not waiting for a 'new and improved' version, we are, instead, without any means of syncing our devices... dead in the water. If our developers did that with our mission critical applications, we'd have a lynch-mob at our door (which is probably how we sound to Eric right now). I'm sorry that Mark/Space were blind-sided by the release of Tiger, and I'm sorry that I didn't consider this before upgrading my OS.... but they were and I did, so here we are. I also think it's ridiculous to suggest that the situation is any less objectionable by offering that the competing product is awful - I'm certain it is, but it doesn't change the fact that I cannot sync my device. Mark/Space are lucky that it does suck and I'm convinced they take comfort in the fact. What worries me more than the current situation, however, is that when the updated version ships, we will have several rounds (over the next few months) of incremental adjustments to iron out the bugs. No matter how hard the developers work on spotting these, they always crop up. And then what happens when Apple releases yet another system upgrade (Mac OS 10.5 'Mountain Lion' hmm)? Mark/Space have already demonstrated that they aren't in a position to work with the pre- release versions to coordinate product launches. Maybe we'll get lucky and it will only mean 1 month of incompatibility? I really, REALLY hope that the new software is released in the next week or so, and I hope that it is rock-solid-stable. I hope that a week later all of this is forgotten and everyone is ecstatically happy. As for me, I'm about 80% decided to put my Pocket PC on eBay. Sure, I'll take a hit, but I guess I've easily spent that in terms of wasted time. Good luck Eric, I hope you report positive news soon... then you'll need a very long vacation! Mike From rickp at rossfell.co.uk Thu Jul 21 07:06:22 2005 From: rickp at rossfell.co.uk (Rick Payne) Date: Thu Jul 21 07:06:29 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Release of missing-sync-pocketpc In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1AFC9AC08DEC3DD2A8C52845@fozzy.rossfell.co.uk> --On 21 July 2005 10:00:05 -0400 Michael Williams wrote: > What worries me more than the current situation, however, is that > when the updated version ships, we will have several rounds (over the > next few months) of incremental adjustments to iron out the bugs. The attitude to the very serious bugs in the previous version suggests that bug fixes will be the least of your problems because they just won't happen. Rick From jay.levenson at s-s-t-i.com Thu Jul 21 08:14:51 2005 From: jay.levenson at s-s-t-i.com (Jay Levenson) Date: Thu Jul 21 08:14:56 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] re: Missing Missing-sync-pocketpc Message-ID: <098993D9-CFC6-46A4-A832-FE520865D5F2@s-s-t-i.com> Dave and Jay and Others I fully understand the complexities of software development. My company is a systems integrator and custom software developer. And, yes it is sometimes difficult to accurately estimate and schedule a major system update. However, it is not impossible and certainly not unusual to set deadlines and perform to them. It appears that MarkSpace has failed to adequately anticipate the scope of their upgrade effort. Many other vendors of Mac software have managed to prepare their releases in anticipation of Tiger. Most of them have been successful in delivering an updated product to coincide with the Tiger release. MarkSpace has supposedly had advance access to Apple's developers information and should have been ready. They were not. But, that is only a part of the issue. Their lack of communications with the user community that has loyally supported them over the years is unconscionable. All I ask is that I be given a reasonable timeframe in which I can expect a belated update. "Coming soon" is not satisfactory. Did I now see an "end of the month" announcement? That is at least a concrete date. I too have worked around the lack of automation by using paper calendars, but that does no good at impromptu meetings or at social events where a briefcase is not part of the attire. I too have been without recent contact information (other than paper versions) since upgrading to Tiger. Again, this is OK when anticipating a meeting, but stinks at all other times. This has caused delays in making calls outside of the office and in some instances embarrassing calls to old numbers now answered by other (sometimes inappropriate) people. Enough of my rant. I guess I will have to wait until the end of the month and see what happens. -- Jay Levenson -------------- next part -------------- 703 White Horse Rd., Suite 1 Voorhees, NJ 08043 856-679-0490 x211 From ibm360 at mac.com Thu Jul 21 08:47:19 2005 From: ibm360 at mac.com (Dave and Jay) Date: Thu Jul 21 08:47:25 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] re: Missing Missing-sync-pocketpc In-Reply-To: <098993D9-CFC6-46A4-A832-FE520865D5F2@s-s-t-i.com> References: <098993D9-CFC6-46A4-A832-FE520865D5F2@s-s-t-i.com> Message-ID: <7B090209-1C9F-4878-B1CF-FF7976FCC0B1@mac.com> Looks like my initial E-mail kind of stirred the pot a little. Each of us have our own opinions and are affected in different ways. I do not know how large of a company M.S. is since I too do not work for them as someone on this list has insinuated. To me it does not matter. Each of us in our personal and business lives have a set of experiences we learn or bring to a company or job from various backgrounds such as SW Developers, Tech Support, Marketing etc. Everyone also thinks someone else's job is always easier than it is and has better ways to do it. I am sure what ever comes out of these discussions and subsequent release of the new product will be a learning experience for them too and they as a company will improve. I am confident of this. Enough Already. Regards Dave On Jul 21, 2005, at 10:14 AM, Jay Levenson wrote: > Dave and Jay and Others > > I fully understand the complexities of software development. My > company is a systems integrator and custom software developer. > And, yes it is sometimes difficult to accurately estimate and > schedule a major system update. However, it is not impossible and > certainly not unusual to set deadlines and perform to them. It > appears that MarkSpace has failed to adequately anticipate the > scope of their upgrade effort. Many other vendors of Mac software > have managed to prepare their releases in anticipation of Tiger. > Most of them have been successful in delivering an updated product > to coincide with the Tiger release. MarkSpace has supposedly had > advance access to Apple's developers information and should have > been ready. They were not. But, that is only a part of the > issue. Their lack of communications with the user community that > has loyally supported them over the years is unconscionable. All I > ask is that I be given a reasonable timeframe in which I can expect > a belated update. "Coming soon" is not satisfactory. Did I now > see an "end of the month" announcement? That is at least a > concrete date. I too have worked around the lack of automation by > using paper calendars, but that does no good at impromptu meetings > or at social events where a briefcase is not part of the attire. I > too have been without recent contact information (other than paper > versions) since upgrading to Tiger. Again, this is OK when > anticipating a meeting, but stinks at all other times. This has > caused delays in making calls outside of the office and in some > instances embarrassing calls to old numbers now answered by other > (sometimes inappropriate) people. > > Enough of my rant. I guess I will have to wait until the end of > the month and see what happens. > -- > Jay Levenson > > > 703 White Horse Rd., Suite 1 > Voorhees, NJ 08043 > 856-679-0490 x211 > > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives > can be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk From stationfarm at gmail.com Thu Jul 21 09:02:06 2005 From: stationfarm at gmail.com (Tim Lawson) Date: Thu Jul 21 09:02:33 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] re: Missing Missing-sync-pocketpc In-Reply-To: <7B090209-1C9F-4878-B1CF-FF7976FCC0B1@mac.com> References: <098993D9-CFC6-46A4-A832-FE520865D5F2@s-s-t-i.com> <7B090209-1C9F-4878-B1CF-FF7976FCC0B1@mac.com> Message-ID: <5FA3F0F8-266D-4C55-A282-B66695D1D6A1@gmail.com> I agree - we've had our say and I'm sure Mark/Space will heed what they've read. Tim. On 21 Jul 2005, at 16:47, Dave and Jay wrote: > Enough Already. > > Regards Dave From eullman at markspace.com Thu Jul 21 09:17:15 2005 From: eullman at markspace.com (Eric Ullman) Date: Thu Jul 21 09:17:18 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Re: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk Digest, Vol 30, Issue 10 In-Reply-To: <6CA7BF23-1FA9-4A4B-98BB-BCF8BF4F0D3B@gmail.com> Message-ID: On 7/21/05 02:40, "Tim Lawson" wrote: > I must say I did find it peculiar that Eric Ullman (Sales and > Marketing Director, MarkSpace) chose to mention (in a post to this > forum on 29th June) the fact that he was "out of town for a family > wedding" as being part of the reason for not supplying timely > information as to the delayed release schedule. But it was a really nice wedding! ;-) You're right, Tim, it was a peculiar thing to mention. I allowed a personal event to push out the update email a little bit further. I wasn't saying that it was right, just that you could all blame me more than Mark/Space as a whole. Best, Eric -- Eric Ullman Director of Sales and Marketing Mark/Space, Inc. eullman@markspace.com From ibm360 at mac.com Thu Jul 21 09:40:34 2005 From: ibm360 at mac.com (Dave Asaibene) Date: Thu Jul 21 09:40:41 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Re: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk Digest, Vol 30, Issue 10 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <445479D2-B383-4F2A-B26F-3DAF353F2DA0@mac.com> Eric. I am sure you did not think (at the time) that it was going to be such a big issue! Was it an automatic response? Been there done that too. Dave On Jul 21, 2005, at 11:17 AM, Eric Ullman wrote: > On 7/21/05 02:40, "Tim Lawson" wrote: > > >> I must say I did find it peculiar that Eric Ullman (Sales and >> Marketing Director, MarkSpace) chose to mention (in a post to this >> forum on 29th June) the fact that he was "out of town for a family >> wedding" as being part of the reason for not supplying timely >> information as to the delayed release schedule. >> > > But it was a really nice wedding! ;-) > > You're right, Tim, it was a peculiar thing to mention. I allowed a > personal > event to push out the update email a little bit further. I wasn't > saying > that it was right, just that you could all blame me more than Mark/ > Space as > a whole. > > Best, > Eric > > -- > Eric Ullman > Director of Sales and Marketing > Mark/Space, Inc. > eullman@markspace.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives > can be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > From Mark at LBIhome.com Thu Jul 21 11:33:04 2005 From: Mark at LBIhome.com (Mark S. Londner) Date: Thu Jul 21 11:33:08 2005 Subject: [sales #532458]: Re: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Re: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk Digest, Vol 30, Issue 10 In-Reply-To: References: <6A14C6FB-BF30-4570-A1E1-F2DA377CEF76@LBIhome.com> Message-ID: <589FAC5A-D40B-407F-94D1-1FCFAAA4B95D@LBIhome.com> Ed, (note: the term,"you" refers to Markspace; not you personally) So, you're telling me that even though after purchasing Missing Sync and using, or learning to use, it for only one month, I will be required to purchase it all over again. Not very "consumer friendly" I must say. I'm very disappointed, to say the least. Mark PS: You can "bend the rules/promises" at "your end"; but, can't make an exception for "my end". Say nothing of the resources and time I lost/spent (a month and a half) between the time I installed Tiger on 4/29/05 and (without any word from you, regarding Tiger's incompatibility) uninstalling Missing Sync on 6/15/05; and not being able to utilize my iPaq through present (and however longer until you're ready to release it). Does Markspace think I'm "made of money"? On Jul 21, 2005, at 1:58 PM, info@markspace.com wrote: > > Hi Mark, > > We are not making special exceptions for the free upgrade > qualification period. Everyone wants special consideration, and we > are just not able to give it, considering the amount of resources > going into this release. > > Missing Sync for Windows Mobile, with support for Tiger (Mac OS > 10.4.x), Address Book, iCal and Entourage, will be released the end > of July 2005. It will be a paid upgrade to Missing Sync for Pocket > PC users (free if Missing Sync for Pocket PC was purchased after > April 1, 2005). Please note that syncing Entourage does not sync > email - just the Contacts, Calendar, Tasks and Memos. > http://www.markspace.com/missingsync_windowsmobile.html > > Missing Sync for Windows Mobile will be for a Pocket PC or > Smartphone running: > > Windows Mobile 2003 for > * Pocket PC (First or Second Edition) > * Pocket PC Phone Edition (First or Second Edition) > * Smartphone (First or Second Edition) > > Windows Mobile 2002 for > * Pocket PC / Pocket PC 2002 > * Pocket PC Phone Edition > * Pocket PC 2002 Phone Edition > * Smartphone / Smartphone 2002 > > The best way to be informed of the new release is to join the > announcement list at: > http://lists.markspace.com > > Regards, > Ed > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Please be patient with our email support, we are not staffed to be > able to provide phone support. > > Customer and Technical Support with searchable knowledgebase: > http://www.markspace.com/support/ > > Retrieve license codes or request a new download link: > http://www.markspace.com/resend-codes.php > > To update your email address in our database: > http://www.markspace.com/change-email.php > > AltaVista - Babel Fish Translation Service: > http://world.altavista.com > > Thanks for choosing The Missing Sync! > > On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 04:59:15 -0700, Mark@LBIhome.com wrote: > >> Markspace -- >> >> I purchased my Mac on 2/25/05, >> ordered Missing Sync on 3/13/05 (inv >> #36223A) >> ordered replacement of a defective >> iPaq on 3/30/05 >> installed Tiger on 4/29/05 >> uninstalled Missing Sync on 6/15/05 >> >> After numerous problems with synchronization, and much time spent >> only to determine my iPac was the problem, replaced it and again >> began to learn how to use both the iPaq (the first handheld I've ever >> had) and Missing Sync the first week of April. Subsequently (see >> above) installed Tiger and quit using the iPaq, which I was just >> getting the hang of, and relying on very heavily. So, as you see (as >> you know) I've been without it for the past 12 weeks (very >> frustrating to say the least). >> >> Since Markspace has set 4/01/05 at the "free replacement" date, I >> either missed it by a maximum of 19 days (or 1 day, as the iPaq >> replacement date is concerned). >> >> In view of the delay in the "shipping" of The Missing Sync >> forthcoming replacement, I hereby request Markspace will honor the >> fact that I was just beginning to get comfortable with said software, >> and hardly even got to use it before Tiger was installed and rendered >> it incompatible, and send me a new CD without any additional >> "purchase" on my part. >> >> I will continue to be patient, as I prefer you get the "bugs out" >> before releasing the new version and I (not a computer wizard) >> install it. But; I, as you well know, along with others, am rather >> anxious. >> >> Please, let's process my request now (not wait for "it's release") so >> as soon as it's available you will send me a new CD at no additional >> charge. >> >> I thank you in advance for most likely granting this most fair and >> reasonable request. >> >> Mark Londner >> __________________________________________________________________ >> Mark S. Londner, AIA >> ASHI, NOVA ASHI, VAREI, VACHI (Virginia Certified Home Inspector) >> LBI Home Inspection >> 540-668-6339 >> www.LBIhome.com >> Mark@LBIhome.com >> 15547 Honey Locust Lane >> Purcellville, Virginia, 20132-2761 >> >> >> On Jul 21, 2005, at 6:27 AM, R.I.Pienaar wrote: >> >> >>> >>> >>> >>>> PS: I bought my first Mac in early February this year. I see I >>>> bought The Missing Sync on 14th February and Tiger on the day of >>>> its >>>> release - 29th April. This means I have only been able to sync my >>>> PPC for 2 and a half months. I'm hoping MarkSpace will agree to >>>> let >>>> me upgrade free since I missed the official free upgrade date by >>>> only >>>> 6 weeks... >>>> >>>> >>> >>> you'd think? I missed it by a week or two, maybe even days I cant >>> recall now, >>> given the really bad expectation management they should be shifting >>> the grace >>> period for free updates back significantly. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list >>> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com >>> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives >>> can be found at: >>> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc- >>> talk >>> >>> >>> > > > > __________________________________________________________________ Mark S. Londner, AIA ASHI, NOVA ASHI, VAREI, VACHI (Virginia Certified Home Inspector) LBI Home Inspection 540-668-6339 www.LBIhome.com Mark@LBIhome.com 15547 Honey Locust Lane Purcellville, Virginia, 20132-2761 From tismeinaz at gmail.com Mon Jul 25 19:43:16 2005 From: tismeinaz at gmail.com (Cheryl McGregor) Date: Mon Jul 25 19:43:18 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] July 25th and counting Message-ID: <44cd2cc505072519433fe5546a@mail.gmail.com> I'm one of the lucky ones who will get a free upgrade but I am still tired of waiting. Tired of opening my Jornada only to remember I have no calendar or contact list there. -- Tioraidh an-drasda Cheryl & Seamus the wee fiend The computer says I need to upgrade my brain to be compatible with it's new software. From machead at satx.rr.com Mon Jul 25 21:21:02 2005 From: machead at satx.rr.com (Allen Brewer) Date: Mon Jul 25 21:21:48 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] July 25th and counting In-Reply-To: <44cd2cc505072519433fe5546a@mail.gmail.com> References: <44cd2cc505072519433fe5546a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Well if you look at just the number of business days left, one would think that we would see a release out by Friday. I doubt it though. I suspect another 2-4 weeks. Come on developers, prove me wrong. I double dog dare ya to release this Friday. :) I was all set to get an RMA and refund when the June date slipped. Decided to wait for the July release. I will wait until Sunday and if no release, I'll be done with the waiting and with this product. On Jul 25, 2005, at 9:43 PM, Cheryl McGregor wrote: > I'm one of the lucky ones who will get a free upgrade but I am still > tired of waiting. Tired of opening my Jornada only to remember I have > no calendar or contact list there. > > -- > Tioraidh an-drasda > Cheryl & Seamus the wee fiend > > The computer says I need to upgrade my brain to be compatible with > it's new software. > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > From chris_e_wall at mac.com Mon Jul 25 22:13:08 2005 From: chris_e_wall at mac.com (Christopher Wall) Date: Mon Jul 25 22:15:32 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] July 25th and counting In-Reply-To: References: <44cd2cc505072519433fe5546a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5D3D0D3F-D0A1-4E86-9E3D-998AC44F3333@mac.com> I really do hate to say it, but I'm rolling back my setup to my Tungsten T2 and regular palm + isync conduit. I was expecting an announcement today on the release (yay/nay) knowing that mark/space was aware that communications were fumbled last time and trust was lost. I know the pressure of a timely release. I'm currently embroiled in a software release that's been pushed back months and worked with another company that lost a significant chunk of their revenue base over bugs. In each and every case these issues are handled by effectively communicating with customers and managing expectations. This just hasn't happened here. I also realize at this point to get the windows mobile release out is going to (or has) cost them more than they'll bring in. It's definitely a niche product. In short, I don't want to kick M/S while they're down, but they've lost my business. On Jul 25, 2005, at 11:21 PM, Allen Brewer wrote: > Well if you look at just the number of business days left, one > would think that we would see a release out by Friday. I doubt it > though. I suspect another 2-4 weeks. > > Come on developers, prove me wrong. I double dog dare ya to release > this Friday. :) > > I was all set to get an RMA and refund when the June date slipped. > Decided to wait for the July release. I will wait until Sunday and > if no release, I'll be done with the waiting and with this product. > > On Jul 25, 2005, at 9:43 PM, Cheryl McGregor wrote: > > > > > > > >> I'm one of the lucky ones who will get a free upgrade but I am still >> tired of waiting. Tired of opening my Jornada only to remember I >> have >> no calendar or contact list there. >> >> -- >> Tioraidh an-drasda >> Cheryl & Seamus the wee fiend >> >> The computer says I need to upgrade my brain to be compatible with >> it's new software. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com >> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives >> can be found at: >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc- >> talk >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives > can be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > > > > > > From brettenwolf at mac.com Tue Jul 26 06:26:39 2005 From: brettenwolf at mac.com (brettenwolf@mac.com) Date: Tue Jul 26 06:26:40 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] July 25th and counting Message-ID: <582521.1122384397451.JavaMail.teamon@b216.teamon.com> I agree ... off to find the 'other' solution! -----Original Message----- From: "Christopher Wall" Sent: 7/26/05 12:13:08 AM To: "The Missing Sync (Mac/Pocket PC)" Subject: Re: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] July 25th and counting I really do hate to say it, but I'm rolling back my setup to my Tungsten T2 and regular palm + isync conduit. I was expecting an announcement today on the release (yay/nay) knowing that mark/space was aware that communications were fumbled last time and trust was lost. I know the pressure of a timely release. I'm currently embroiled in a software release that's been pushed back months and worked with another company that lost a significant chunk of their revenue base over bugs. In each and every case these issues are handled by effectively communicating with customers and managing expectations. This just hasn't happened here. I also realize at this point to get the windows mobile release out is going to (or has) cost them more than they'll bring in. It's definitely a niche product. In short, I don't want to kick M/S while they're down, but they've lost my business. On Jul 25, 2005, at 11:21 PM, Allen Brewer wrote: > Well if you look at just the number of business days left, one > would think that we would see a release out by Friday. I doubt it > though. I suspect another 2-4 weeks. > > Come on developers, prove me wrong. I double dog dare ya to release > this Friday. :) > > I was all set to get an RMA and refund when the June date slipped. > Decided to wait for the July release. I will wait until Sunday and > if no release, I'll be done with the waiting and with this product. > > On Jul 25, 2005, at 9:43 PM, Cheryl McGregor wrote: > > > > > > > >> I'm one of the lucky ones who will get a free upgrade but I am still >> tired of waiting. Tired of opening my Jornada only to remember I >> have >> no calendar or contact list there. >> >> -- >> Tioraidh an-drasda >> Cheryl & Seamus the wee fiend >> >> The computer says I need to upgrade my brain to be compatible with >> it's new software. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com >> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives >> can be found at: >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc- >> talk >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives > can be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > > > > > > _______________________________________________ missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found at: http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk From pws2000 at gmx.net Tue Jul 26 06:35:35 2005 From: pws2000 at gmx.net (pws2000@gmx.net) Date: Tue Jul 26 06:35:41 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] July 25th and counting In-Reply-To: References: <44cd2cc505072519433fe5546a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I am pretty sure they are working rather hard to iron out the last persistent bugs ... just hang on Peter On 26.07.2005, at 6:21 am, Allen Brewer wrote: > Well if you look at just the number of business days left, one > would think that we would see a release out by Friday. I doubt it > though. I suspect another 2-4 weeks. > > Come on developers, prove me wrong. I double dog dare ya to release > this Friday. :) > > I was all set to get an RMA and refund when the June date slipped. > Decided to wait for the July release. I will wait until Sunday and > if no release, I'll be done with the waiting and with this product. > > On Jul 25, 2005, at 9:43 PM, Cheryl McGregor wrote: > > >> I'm one of the lucky ones who will get a free upgrade but I am still >> tired of waiting. Tired of opening my Jornada only to remember I >> have >> no calendar or contact list there. >> >> -- >> Tioraidh an-drasda >> Cheryl & Seamus the wee fiend >> >> The computer says I need to upgrade my brain to be compatible with >> it's new software. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com >> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives >> can be found at: >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc- >> talk >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives > can be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > > From fmantek at gmail.com Tue Jul 26 06:44:32 2005 From: fmantek at gmail.com (Frank Mantek) Date: Tue Jul 26 06:44:34 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] July 25th and counting In-Reply-To: References: <44cd2cc505072519433fe5546a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <597c66d70507260644700d2c90@mail.gmail.com> I also find it rather amusing to threaten to quit. If a Windows user would do that everytime an MS product slips, we would have a lot more Macs out there :) But seriously, if not this, what then? PocketMac got terrible reviews, and i am not aware off anything else... What i REALLY want though, is the ability to sync my PPC to the .MAC account.. That would be SOOOOO sweet... Maybe i need to write this myself. Frank On 7/26/05, pws2000@gmx.net wrote: > > I am pretty sure they are working rather hard to iron out the last > persistent bugs ... > > just hang on > > Peter > > On 26.07.2005, at 6:21 am, Allen Brewer wrote: > > > Well if you look at just the number of business days left, one > > would think that we would see a release out by Friday. I doubt it > > though. I suspect another 2-4 weeks. > > > > Come on developers, prove me wrong. I double dog dare ya to release > > this Friday. :) > > > > I was all set to get an RMA and refund when the June date slipped. > > Decided to wait for the July release. I will wait until Sunday and > > if no release, I'll be done with the waiting and with this product. > > > > On Jul 25, 2005, at 9:43 PM, Cheryl McGregor wrote: > > > > > >> I'm one of the lucky ones who will get a free upgrade but I am still > >> tired of waiting. Tired of opening my Jornada only to remember I > >> have > >> no calendar or contact list there. > >> > >> -- > >> Tioraidh an-drasda > >> Cheryl & Seamus the wee fiend > >> > >> The computer says I need to upgrade my brain to be compatible with > >> it's new software. > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > >> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > >> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives > >> can be found at: > >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc- > >> talk > >> > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives > > can be found at: > > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be > found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > From brettenwolf at mac.com Tue Jul 26 08:17:47 2005 From: brettenwolf at mac.com (brettenwolf@mac.com) Date: Tue Jul 26 08:17:55 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] July 25th and counting Message-ID: <2398596.1122391069126.JavaMail.teamon@b217.teamon.com> GO Frank! Someone needs to take care of this market ... -----Original Message----- From: "Frank Mantek" Sent: 7/26/05 8:44:32 AM To: "The Missing Sync (Mac/Pocket PC)" Subject: Re: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] July 25th and counting I also find it rather amusing to threaten to quit. If a Windows user would do that everytime an MS product slips, we would have a lot more Macs out there :) But seriously, if not this, what then? PocketMac got terrible reviews, and i am not aware off anything else... What i REALLY want though, is the ability to sync my PPC to the .MAC account.. That would be SOOOOO sweet... Maybe i need to write this myself. Frank On 7/26/05, pws2000@gmx.net wrote: > > I am pretty sure they are working rather hard to iron out the last > persistent bugs ... > > just hang on > > Peter > > On 26.07.2005, at 6:21 am, Allen Brewer wrote: > > > Well if you look at just the number of business days left, one > > would think that we would see a release out by Friday. I doubt it > > though. I suspect another 2-4 weeks. > > > > Come on developers, prove me wrong. I double dog dare ya to release > > this Friday. :) > > > > I was all set to get an RMA and refund when the June date slipped. > > Decided to wait for the July release. I will wait until Sunday and > > if no release, I'll be done with the waiting and with this product. > > > > On Jul 25, 2005, at 9:43 PM, Cheryl McGregor wrote: > > > > > >> I'm one of the lucky ones who will get a free upgrade but I am still > >> tired of waiting. Tired of opening my Jornada only to remember I > >> have > >> no calendar or contact list there. > >> > >> -- > >> Tioraidh an-drasda > >> Cheryl & Seamus the wee fiend > >> > >> The computer says I need to upgrade my brain to be compatible with > >> it's new software. > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > >> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > >> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives > >> can be found at: > >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc- > >> talk > >> > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives > > can be found at: > > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be > found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > _______________________________________________ missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found at: http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk From eullman at markspace.com Tue Jul 26 09:39:07 2005 From: eullman at markspace.com (Eric Ullman) Date: Tue Jul 26 09:39:10 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] July 25th and counting In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I'll take your double-dog dare, Allen. After all, I just sent this less than a week ago: > The Missing Sync for Windows Mobile v2.0 will ship this month. There are > still a few issues being worked out, but things are looking good. I know that the delay sucked. Thanks for sticking it out. Best, Eric -- Eric Ullman Director of Sales and Marketing Mark/Space, Inc. eullman@markspace.com On 7/25/05 21:21, "Allen Brewer" wrote: > Well if you look at just the number of business days left, one would > think that we would see a release out by Friday. I doubt it though. I > s