From plants at post.harvard.edu Tue Feb 22 23:39:27 2005 From: plants at post.harvard.edu (Todd Plants) Date: Tue Feb 22 20:39:59 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Sync to Mac and XP? Message-ID: I know that there have historically been problems using Missing Sync with a Pocket PC to sync with both a Mac and Outlook on a Windows box. Have these problems been resolved? Has a workaround been published? This post from 2003 describes the problems I used to have (about 1 year ago) to a T: http://lists.markspace.com/pipermail/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk/2003- October/008221.html Please advise. thanks todd From rick.mavrovich at citigroup.com Wed Feb 23 10:07:15 2005 From: rick.mavrovich at citigroup.com (Mavrovich, Rick) Date: Wed Feb 23 07:10:04 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Sync to Mac and XP? Message-ID: <5F1DCDB10BA46F4DA4439D994FC0EFDF028107D9@EXNJMB22.nam.nsroot.net> Thank you Todd. This is very useful to me. Cheers, Rick -----Original Message----- From: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com [mailto:missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com]On Behalf Of Todd Plants Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 11:39 PM To: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Sync to Mac and XP? I know that there have historically been problems using Missing Sync with a Pocket PC to sync with both a Mac and Outlook on a Windows box. Have these problems been resolved? Has a workaround been published? This post from 2003 describes the problems I used to have (about 1 year ago) to a T: http://lists.markspace.com/pipermail/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk/2003- October/008221.html Please advise. thanks todd _______________________________________________ missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found at: http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk From plants at post.harvard.edu Wed Feb 23 16:03:00 2005 From: plants at post.harvard.edu (Todd Plants) Date: Wed Feb 23 13:03:07 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] RE: Sync to Mac and XP? In-Reply-To: <200502232026.j1NKQjwG020865@penguin.markspace.com> Message-ID: <429902C5229C2C4E951C325723D35C37021CD6C4@MAILSERVER.dscc.org> Well, I'm happy to know my inquiry was useful, but I'm still lookin' for an answer... :) todd -----Original Message----- From: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com [mailto:missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com] On Behalf Of missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-request@lists.markspace.com Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 3:27 PM To: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com Subject: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk Digest, Vol 25, Issue 2 Send missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list submissions to missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-request@lists.markspace.com You can reach the person managing the list at missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-owner@lists.markspace.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of missing-sync-pocketpc-talk digest..." _______________________________________________ missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found at: http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk _______________________________________________ Today's Topics: 1. Sync to Mac and XP? (Todd Plants) 2. RE: Sync to Mac and XP? (Mavrovich, Rick) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 23:39:27 -0500 From: Todd Plants Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Sync to Mac and XP? To: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed I know that there have historically been problems using Missing Sync with a Pocket PC to sync with both a Mac and Outlook on a Windows box. Have these problems been resolved? Has a workaround been published? This post from 2003 describes the problems I used to have (about 1 year ago) to a T: http://lists.markspace.com/pipermail/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk/2003- October/008221.html Please advise. thanks todd ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 10:07:15 -0500 From: "Mavrovich, Rick" Subject: RE: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Sync to Mac and XP? To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Pocket PC\)" Message-ID: <5F1DCDB10BA46F4DA4439D994FC0EFDF028107D9@EXNJMB22.nam.nsroot.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Thank you Todd. This is very useful to me. Cheers, Rick -----Original Message----- From: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com [mailto:missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com]On Behalf Of Todd Plants Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 11:39 PM To: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Sync to Mac and XP? I know that there have historically been problems using Missing Sync with a Pocket PC to sync with both a Mac and Outlook on a Windows box. Have these problems been resolved? Has a workaround been published? This post from 2003 describes the problems I used to have (about 1 year ago) to a T: http://lists.markspace.com/pipermail/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk/2003- October/008221.html Please advise. thanks todd _______________________________________________ missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found at: http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found at: http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk End of missing-sync-pocketpc-talk Digest, Vol 25, Issue 2 ********************************************************* From rick.mavrovich at citigroup.com Wed Feb 23 16:10:56 2005 From: rick.mavrovich at citigroup.com (Mavrovich, Rick) Date: Wed Feb 23 13:13:32 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] RE: Sync to Mac and XP? Message-ID: <5F1DCDB10BA46F4DA4439D994FC0EFDF02810889@EXNJMB22.nam.nsroot.net> So am I. I am almost tempted to hire my own programmers and then sell the solution. I am sure you and I are not the only two with this need. Cheers, Rick -----Original Message----- From: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com [mailto:missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com]On Behalf Of Todd Plants Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 4:03 PM To: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] RE: Sync to Mac and XP? Well, I'm happy to know my inquiry was useful, but I'm still lookin' for an answer... :) todd -----Original Message----- From: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com [mailto:missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com] On Behalf Of missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-request@lists.markspace.com Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 3:27 PM To: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com Subject: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk Digest, Vol 25, Issue 2 Send missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list submissions to missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-request@lists.markspace.com You can reach the person managing the list at missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-owner@lists.markspace.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of missing-sync-pocketpc-talk digest..." _______________________________________________ missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found at: http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk _______________________________________________ Today's Topics: 1. Sync to Mac and XP? (Todd Plants) 2. RE: Sync to Mac and XP? (Mavrovich, Rick) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 23:39:27 -0500 From: Todd Plants Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Sync to Mac and XP? To: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed I know that there have historically been problems using Missing Sync with a Pocket PC to sync with both a Mac and Outlook on a Windows box. Have these problems been resolved? Has a workaround been published? This post from 2003 describes the problems I used to have (about 1 year ago) to a T: http://lists.markspace.com/pipermail/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk/2003- October/008221.html Please advise. thanks todd ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 10:07:15 -0500 From: "Mavrovich, Rick" Subject: RE: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Sync to Mac and XP? To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Pocket PC\)" Message-ID: <5F1DCDB10BA46F4DA4439D994FC0EFDF028107D9@EXNJMB22.nam.nsroot.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Thank you Todd. This is very useful to me. Cheers, Rick -----Original Message----- From: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com [mailto:missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com]On Behalf Of Todd Plants Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 11:39 PM To: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Sync to Mac and XP? I know that there have historically been problems using Missing Sync with a Pocket PC to sync with both a Mac and Outlook on a Windows box. Have these problems been resolved? Has a workaround been published? This post from 2003 describes the problems I used to have (about 1 year ago) to a T: http://lists.markspace.com/pipermail/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk/2003- October/008221.html Please advise. thanks todd _______________________________________________ missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found at: http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found at: http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk End of missing-sync-pocketpc-talk Digest, Vol 25, Issue 2 ********************************************************* _______________________________________________ missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found at: http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk From mino at zazube.fsnet.co.uk Wed Feb 23 21:36:13 2005 From: mino at zazube.fsnet.co.uk (Mino Manekshaw) Date: Wed Feb 23 13:36:39 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] RE: Sync to Mac and XP? In-Reply-To: <5F1DCDB10BA46F4DA4439D994FC0EFDF02810889@EXNJMB22.nam.nsroot.net> Message-ID: Nope - me too...... Rewarded with total mayhem after I loaded PocketMac - I've now got about 300 reminders for my Mother-In-Law's birthday! Waiting for the missing-sync team to deliver a solution is almost as bad as waiting for my first kid to arrive ....!:o( Roll-on the beta-test programme Mino On 23/2/05 9:10 pm, "Mavrovich, Rick" wrote: > So am I. I am almost tempted to hire my own programmers and then sell the > solution. I am sure you and I are not the only two with this need. > > Cheers, > > Rick > > -----Original Message----- > From: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com > [mailto:missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com]On Behalf > Of Todd Plants > Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 4:03 PM > To: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] RE: Sync to Mac and XP? > > > Well, I'm happy to know my inquiry was useful, but I'm still lookin' for an > answer... :) > > todd From TDefriez at cs.com Wed Feb 23 17:13:27 2005 From: TDefriez at cs.com (TDefriez@cs.com) Date: Wed Feb 23 14:13:34 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] RE: Sync to Mac and XP? Message-ID: <3C4757EB.773F6E30.007A6775@cs.com> Talking of which, any update on the beta yet, you know the one with reported support for Entourage? I (due to recent changes at work) need to sync both XP and Mac, luckly due to the lack of a Entourage conduit for Missing Sync I'm using, dare I say, PocketMac and it does not have this issue (it has plenty of other but at least it work with Entourage on Mac and Outlook on XP). I prefered Missing Sync when I was using it but support for Apple programs only prevents me from using Missing Sync currently. Mino Manekshaw wrote: >Nope - me too...... Rewarded with total mayhem after I loaded PocketMac - >I've now got about 300 reminders for my Mother-In-Law's birthday! > >Waiting for the missing-sync team to deliver a solution is almost as bad as >waiting for my first kid to arrive ....!:o( > >Roll-on the beta-test programme > >Mino > > > >On 23/2/05 9:10 pm, "Mavrovich, Rick" wrote: > >> So am I. I am almost tempted to hire my own programmers and then sell the >> solution. I am sure you and I are not the only two with this need. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Rick >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com >> [mailto:missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com]On Behalf >> Of Todd Plants >> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 4:03 PM >> To: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com >> Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] RE: Sync to Mac and XP? >> >> >> Well, I'm happy to know my inquiry was useful, but I'm still lookin' for an >> answer... ?:) >> >> todd > > >_______________________________________________ >missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list >missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com >Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found at: >http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > From darknerd2k at yahoo.com Wed Feb 23 17:43:51 2005 From: darknerd2k at yahoo.com (Joaquin Menchaca) Date: Wed Feb 23 17:43:54 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] RE: Sync to Mac and XP? In-Reply-To: <200502232027.j1NKQjwI020865@penguin.markspace.com> Message-ID: <20050224014351.54862.qmail@web31008.mail.mud.yahoo.com> There are a few ways to do this outside of MissingSync: (1) Use an Exchange Server as the transfer mechanism (2) Use the iPod as the transfer mechanism (3) Script your own or use a plethora of tools. Exchange Server -------------------- If you use an Exchange Server for your Windows Outlook access, you can use Exchange as the way to get data from the Macintosh into Exchange, and then view it from Outlook from WindowsXP. On the Mac, there's Outlook 2001 (http://www.mactopia.com) which will work with an Exchange server. This tool runs under Mac OS 9, so it doesn't have the pretty Aqua user experience. It you can get data into Outlook 2001, you can then get synchronization. Somehow, when using Outlook 2001, it took data used in Entourage running on Mac OS X and auto-magically synchronized it with the Exchanage server. So, this might be the easiest method to get data into Outlook 2001 is by using Entourage. The problem with synchronizing Entourage with iSync (and hence the family of iTools) is that Apple is pretty closed about iSync, and does have public SDKs on this. However, I do remember some recent tools for this. One quick search on google brought e2sync for $39 at http://www.e2sync.com/. Thus this solution involves the following path to get data to go from PocketPC/Mac/OutlookWin solution: missingSync -> iSync -> e2Sync -> Entourage -> Outlook 2001 -> Exchange -> Outlook on WinXP. Using iPod ------------- Another possibility would be to use an iPod that can easily synchronize with Macintosh OS X iSync facility. This data would then be carted to Windows and use third party tool to get it. Once the iPod is accessible under Windows, there are several tools available that can suck PIM data from it and place it into Outook and vice-versa. You can find a good listing at http://www.ipodlounge.com. I think ipod-sync seems to be the cream of the crop and they can be found at http://www.ipod-sync.com/. This would involve the following path to get data to and from PocketPC/Mac/OutlookWindows solutions: missingSync -> iSync -> iPod -> Windows file browser* -> ipod-sync -> Outlook on WinXP * Note, that this is just used in theory. I have never tested an iPod formatted with the Windows file system (FAT32) on a Macintosh, and determined how well it works under both Windows and Macintosh. Alternatively, one can use the native Mac file system (HFS) under Windows using a tool like MacDrive (http://www.mediafour.com/products/macdrive6/). Scripting Your Own Solution -------------------------------- There are plenty of little tools and scripts out there that can do synchronization, or data import/extract. Much of the data in proprietary programs can be extracted and saved into standard formats like vCard or vCal (http://www.imc.org/pdi/) formats either (1) the application’s user interface in recent programs, (2) custom scripts especially for older programs, or (3) third party tools. There might be a problem specifically with iCal, as this doesn’t adhere to the standard vCal format, and is troublesome to work with. Some great tools for this is a PHP webbased utility that can import/export vCal formats called php icalendar (http://phpicalendar.sourceforge.net). Yahoo mail also supports some import/export capabilities with vCal and vCard formats. For rolling out your own scripts and solutions, here some notes below that might prove useful: Both Outlook 2001 and Entourage are scriptable using either AppleScript or another scripting language that supports AppleEvents, such as Perl through MacGlue module (or MacPerl at http://www.macperl.org for Mac OS 9). The Apple tools (Addressbook, iCal, etc.) also support scripting in this manner as well. On Windows, Outlook 97/2K/2K2/2K3 supports forms of scripting through OLE-Automation. This can be used to get at all the items at Outlook. This can be done through VBScripts using WSH or VBA, or through Perl using Windows OLE perl modules. On Windows, ActiveState Perl (http://www.activestate.com/Products/ActivePerl/) is a free solution that includes many of the needed modules. There’s a beautiful IDE for perl called Komodo that can be used to easily get into Perl programming. Off the topic, Komodo using Mozilla technologies, the same used for Firefox and it works on Linux and Solaris as well. Unfortunately, there is no Mac OS X solutions, despite numerous requests. I hope the above might be useful. regards, Joaquin Menchaca __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From eullman at markspace.com Wed Feb 23 21:47:09 2005 From: eullman at markspace.com (Eric Ullman) Date: Wed Feb 23 21:47:11 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] [PR] Mark/Space Expands Online Store with Third-party Software Message-ID: FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE MARK/SPACE EXPANDS ONLINE STORE WITH MAC-FRIENDLY SOFTWARE FOR PALM OS AND WINDOWS MOBILE HANDHELDS LOS GATOS, Calif.--February 24, 2005--Mark/Space, Inc., creator of The Missing Sync family of products, is now selling the top third-party applications for Palm OS and Windows Mobile/Pocket PC handheld devices in their online store. The Mark/Space Online Store is unique in its pure focus on providing applications from Mac-friendly developers. "Mac users now have a place to shop for handheld software applications where they aren't forced to wade through a sea of products that don't support the Mac," said Eric Ullman, Mark/Space's director of sales and marketing. "We've compiled a great selection of the most popular applications for both Palm Powered and Windows Mobile devices to start, and we plan to grow that selection to become the favorite one-stop handheld software shop for Mac users." Brian Hall, Mark/Space's president and CEO, explained that this move is all part of the company's plan to grow the Mac side of the market for PDAs and smartphones. "Traditionally, Mac users are early technology adopters, and they have been a cornerstone of the handheld market. Sadly, we've seen a drop in industry support for Mac users over the past few years. We're working hard to reverse that trend, and we're doing it with the help of our allies represented in the Mark/Space Online Store." All of the applications sold in the Mark/Space Online Store, including those for Windows Mobile devices, can be installed from a Mac. Currently, Mark/Space is offering long-time Mac favorites, including DataViz's Documents to Go, LandWare's Pocket Quicken, Llamagraphics Life Balance and SplashData's SplashPhoto. "We are thrilled to be part of the Mark/Space Online Store, as DataViz has been committed to the Macintosh platform for the last 21 years," said Annya Sedakova-Bertram, DataViz. "The store offers a convenient and tailored shopping experience for any Mac user looking for mobile software." John Chaffee, president of SplashData, remarked: "We're pleased to have SplashData's apps available in the new Mark/Space Online Store. SplashData and Mark/Space share a common commitment to providing Mac enthusiasts with handheld and desktop software designed exclusively for Mac. Given Mark/Space's large installed base of loyal Mac users, it's an ideal distribution channel for us." The Mark/Space Online Store can be found at http://store.markspace.com. ABOUT MARK/SPACE, INC. Founded in 1990, Mark/Space, Inc., www.markspace.com, develops and markets mobile and wireless software, including the award-winning Missing Sync products that connect a Mac OS computer to handheld devices from Dell, HP, PalmOne, Sony, Toshiba and others. # # # Mark/Space and The Missing Sync are trademarks of Mark/Space, Inc. All other product and brand names may be trademarks or registered trademarks of their respective owners. COMPANY CONTACT: Eric Ullman Director of Sales and Marketing eullman@markspace.com From rick.mavrovich at citigroup.com Thu Feb 24 09:40:53 2005 From: rick.mavrovich at citigroup.com (Mavrovich, Rick) Date: Thu Feb 24 06:42:59 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] RE: Sync to Mac and XP? Message-ID: <5F1DCDB10BA46F4DA4439D994FC0EFDF02810914@EXNJMB22.nam.nsroot.net> Dear TDefriez@cs.com: I asked PocketMac a couple of weeks ago if I could do what you describe but they told me no. Can you describe how you set things up? I would like to do the same thing. My work computer runs windows 2000 and my home computer is a G4 with the latest version of OSX. I have the option of running either Entourage or the suite of MAC apps(iCal, adress book, etc) on my MAC. Cheers, Rick -----Original Message----- From: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com [mailto:missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com]On Behalf Of TDefriez@cs.com Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 5:13 PM To: "The Missing Sync (Mac/Pocket PC)" Subject: Re: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] RE: Sync to Mac and XP? Talking of which, any update on the beta yet, you know the one with reported support for Entourage? I (due to recent changes at work) need to sync both XP and Mac, luckly due to the lack of a Entourage conduit for Missing Sync I'm using, dare I say, PocketMac and it does not have this issue (it has plenty of other but at least it work with Entourage on Mac and Outlook on XP). I prefered Missing Sync when I was using it but support for Apple programs only prevents me from using Missing Sync currently. Mino Manekshaw wrote: >Nope - me too...... Rewarded with total mayhem after I loaded PocketMac - >I've now got about 300 reminders for my Mother-In-Law's birthday! > >Waiting for the missing-sync team to deliver a solution is almost as bad as >waiting for my first kid to arrive ....!:o( > >Roll-on the beta-test programme > >Mino > > > >On 23/2/05 9:10 pm, "Mavrovich, Rick" wrote: > >> So am I. I am almost tempted to hire my own programmers and then sell the >> solution. I am sure you and I are not the only two with this need. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Rick >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com >> [mailto:missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com]On Behalf >> Of Todd Plants >> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 4:03 PM >> To: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com >> Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] RE: Sync to Mac and XP? >> >> >> Well, I'm happy to know my inquiry was useful, but I'm still lookin' for an >> answer... ?:) >> >> todd > > >_______________________________________________ >missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list >missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com >Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found at: >http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > _______________________________________________ missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found at: http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk From John at ecove.net Thu Feb 24 17:27:34 2005 From: John at ecove.net (John Tenny) Date: Thu Feb 24 17:27:44 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] [PR] Mark/Space Expands Online Store with Third-party Software In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <06070aa20d8f5d547130d4a75d62dd36@ecove.net> Wonderful announcement and I'm glad that you're working to support the Mac and Windows handhelds. However, as a software developer with a program on the Windows handheld (as well as Palm), recommending MS for Pocket PC has generated so many user help requests for things related to MS and not my software, that I have stopped the recommendations. I've waited (and waited) for something that indicates that there is a real interest on the part of MS to fix the PPC version, but I just don't see it. I can't in good conscience recommend that a mac owner purchase a PPC. I do hope this changes soon. I understand about not quoting due dates, but something about progress, features, whatever would be useful. A caution: be honest. One stretched bit of truth and you'll do yourself big damage. Peace, John John L. Tenny, Ph.D. eCOVE: Classroom Observation Toolkit Software www.ecove.net John@ecove.net 1-888-363-2683 (888-DO ECOVE) fax: 503-965-3692 ----------------- On Feb 23, 2005, at 9:47 PM, Eric Ullman wrote: > FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE > > > MARK/SPACE EXPANDS ONLINE STORE WITH MAC-FRIENDLY SOFTWARE FOR PALM OS > AND > WINDOWS MOBILE HANDHELDS > > > LOS GATOS, Calif.--February 24, 2005--Mark/Space, Inc., creator of The > Missing Sync family of products, is now selling the top third-party > applications for Palm OS and Windows Mobile/Pocket PC handheld devices > in > their online store. The Mark/Space Online Store is unique in its pure > focus > on providing applications from Mac-friendly developers. > > "Mac users now have a place to shop for handheld software applications > where > they aren't forced to wade through a sea of products that don't > support the > Mac," said Eric Ullman, Mark/Space's director of sales and marketing. > "We've > compiled a great selection of the most popular applications for both > Palm > Powered and Windows Mobile devices to start, and we plan to grow that > selection to become the favorite one-stop handheld software shop for > Mac > users." > > Brian Hall, Mark/Space's president and CEO, explained that this move > is all > part of the company's plan to grow the Mac side of the market for PDAs > and > smartphones. "Traditionally, Mac users are early technology adopters, > and > they have been a cornerstone of the handheld market. Sadly, we've seen > a > drop in industry support for Mac users over the past few years. We're > working hard to reverse that trend, and we're doing it with the help > of our > allies represented in the Mark/Space Online Store." > > All of the applications sold in the Mark/Space Online Store, including > those > for Windows Mobile devices, can be installed from a Mac. Currently, > Mark/Space is offering long-time Mac favorites, including DataViz's > Documents to Go, LandWare's Pocket Quicken, Llamagraphics Life Balance > and > SplashData's SplashPhoto. > > "We are thrilled to be part of the Mark/Space Online Store, as DataViz > has > been committed to the Macintosh platform for the last 21 years," said > Annya > Sedakova-Bertram, DataViz. "The store offers a convenient and tailored > shopping experience for any Mac user looking for mobile software." > > John Chaffee, president of SplashData, remarked: "We're pleased to have > SplashData's apps available in the new Mark/Space Online Store. > SplashData > and Mark/Space share a common commitment to providing Mac enthusiasts > with > handheld and desktop software designed exclusively for Mac. Given > Mark/Space's large installed base of loyal Mac users, it's an ideal > distribution channel for us." > > The Mark/Space Online Store can be found at http://store.markspace.com. > > > ABOUT MARK/SPACE, INC. > Founded in 1990, Mark/Space, Inc., www.markspace.com, develops and > markets > mobile and wireless software, including the award-winning Missing Sync > products that connect a Mac OS computer to handheld devices from Dell, > HP, > PalmOne, Sony, Toshiba and others. > > # # # > > Mark/Space and The Missing Sync are trademarks of Mark/Space, Inc. All > other > product and brand names may be trademarks or registered trademarks of > their > respective owners. > > > COMPANY CONTACT: > Eric Ullman > Director of Sales and Marketing > eullman@markspace.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > > > ___________________________________________________________ > $0 Web Hosting with up to 120MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer > 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. > Signup at www.doteasy.com > From rprockey at geekfoo.net Thu Feb 24 22:50:24 2005 From: rprockey at geekfoo.net (Ryan P. Rockey) Date: Thu Feb 24 19:50:44 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] RE: Sync to Mac and XP? In-Reply-To: <5F1DCDB10BA46F4DA4439D994FC0EFDF02810914@EXNJMB22.nam.nsroot.net> References: <5F1DCDB10BA46F4DA4439D994FC0EFDF02810914@EXNJMB22.nam.nsroot.net> Message-ID: <421EA080.9040408@geekfoo.net> I have been following this discussion and I am not sure I understand the problem with syncing your PPC with XP and OSX. I am a new PPC and new MS user who has just recently joined the list. You shouldn't have any trouble syncing your PPC between the two computers. Windows Mobile supports synchronization with multiple computers. Your pocket PC will maintain connection information for two systems, any more and you will have to delete a profile to create another. I sync my PPC to my PowerBook with MS at home and I use ActiveSync combined with GroupWise PDA Sync to sync with GroupWise on my Windows 2000 workstation at work. Besides keeping personal data separate from business data, I haven't really had any trouble. I might be able to help you all find a solution to the Sync to Mac and 2000/XP problem but need to know more precisely what the problem is. Take Care, -Rockey Mavrovich, Rick wrote: >Dear TDefriez@cs.com: > >I asked PocketMac a couple of weeks ago if I could do what you describe but they told me no. Can you describe how you set things up? I would like to do the same thing. My work computer runs windows 2000 and my home computer is a G4 with the latest version of OSX. I have the option of running either Entourage or the suite of MAC apps(iCal, adress book, etc) on my MAC. > >Cheers, > >Rick > >-----Original Message----- >From: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com >[mailto:missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com]On Behalf >Of TDefriez@cs.com >Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 5:13 PM >To: "The Missing Sync (Mac/Pocket PC)" >Subject: Re: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] RE: Sync to Mac and XP? > > >Talking of which, any update on the beta yet, you know the one with reported support for Entourage? > >I (due to recent changes at work) need to sync both XP and Mac, luckly due to the lack of a Entourage conduit for Missing Sync I'm using, dare I say, PocketMac and it does not have this issue (it has plenty of other but at least it work with Entourage on Mac and Outlook on XP). I prefered Missing Sync when I was using it but support for Apple programs only prevents me from using Missing Sync currently. > >Mino Manekshaw wrote: > > From dkoziol at markspace.com Thu Feb 24 22:57:12 2005 From: dkoziol at markspace.com (Dave Koziol) Date: Thu Feb 24 19:57:15 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] RE: Sync to Mac and XP? In-Reply-To: <5F1DCDB10BA46F4DA4439D994FC0EFDF02810914@EXNJMB22.nam.nsroot.net> References: <5F1DCDB10BA46F4DA4439D994FC0EFDF02810914@EXNJMB22.nam.nsroot.net> Message-ID: On Feb 24, 2005, at 9:40 AM, Mavrovich, Rick wrote: > I asked PocketMac a couple of weeks ago if I could do what you > describe but they told me no. Can you describe how you set things up? > I would like to do the same thing. My work computer runs windows 2000 > and my home computer is a G4 with the latest version of OSX. I have > the option of running either Entourage or the suite of MAC apps(iCal, > adress book, etc) on my MAC. In the 1.0.4 product, you should NOT attempt to synchronize a Pocket PC with two computers. Dave Koziol Mark/Space, Inc. From dneil at markspace.com Thu Feb 24 23:13:31 2005 From: dneil at markspace.com (David Neil) Date: Thu Feb 24 20:13:40 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Sync to Mac and XP? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Todd, As of now, the issues with syncing to both Outlook and to a Mac with Missing Sync for Pocket PC persist in the shipping version if Missing Sync which is version 1.0.4. I don't know of any work around being published elsewhere, but none here. Ryan just posted that he can use GroupWise without a problem. Obviously this isn't a work around because it isn't using Outlook, and GroupWise is an enterprise type solution, not an end user program. As of now, what Dave Koziol just posted is what is relevant: "In the 1.0.4 product, you should NOT attempt to synchronize a Pocket PC with two computers." Particularly not with Outlook. Dave Neil MarkSpace Inc. On 2/22/05 11:39 PM, "Todd Plants" wrote: > I know that there have historically been problems using Missing Sync > with a Pocket PC to sync with both a Mac and Outlook on a Windows box. > Have these problems been resolved? Has a workaround been published? > > This post from 2003 describes the problems I used to have (about 1 year > ago) to a T: > > http://lists.markspace.com/pipermail/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk/2003- > October/008221.html > > Please advise. > > thanks > todd > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk From rick.mavrovich at citigroup.com Fri Feb 25 09:37:25 2005 From: rick.mavrovich at citigroup.com (Mavrovich, Rick) Date: Fri Feb 25 06:40:31 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Sync to Mac and XP? Message-ID: <5F1DCDB10BA46F4DA4439D994FC0EFDF02810A44@EXNJMB22.nam.nsroot.net> Dear Dave Neil: You have me confused now. I am hearing from others that you can do it and now you say that you can't. please read the following email from Rockey: "I have been following this discussion and I am not sure I understand the problem with syncing your PPC with XP and OSX. I am a new PPC and new MS user who has just recently joined the list. You shouldn't have any trouble syncing your PPC between the two computers. Windows Mobile supports synchronization with multiple computers. Your pocket PC will maintain connection information for two systems, any more and you will have to delete a profile to create another. I sync my PPC to my PowerBook with MS at home and I use ActiveSync combined with GroupWise PDA Sync to sync with GroupWise on my Windows 2000 workstation at work. Besides keeping personal data separate from business data, I haven't really had any trouble. I might be able to help you all find a solution to the Sync to Mac and 2000/XP problem but need to know more precisely what the problem is. Take Care, -Rockey" Cheers, Rick -----Original Message----- From: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com [mailto:missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com]On Behalf Of David Neil Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 11:14 PM To: The Missing Sync (Mac/Pocket PC) Subject: Re: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Sync to Mac and XP? Todd, As of now, the issues with syncing to both Outlook and to a Mac with Missing Sync for Pocket PC persist in the shipping version if Missing Sync which is version 1.0.4. I don't know of any work around being published elsewhere, but none here. Ryan just posted that he can use GroupWise without a problem. Obviously this isn't a work around because it isn't using Outlook, and GroupWise is an enterprise type solution, not an end user program. As of now, what Dave Koziol just posted is what is relevant: "In the 1.0.4 product, you should NOT attempt to synchronize a Pocket PC with two computers." Particularly not with Outlook. Dave Neil MarkSpace Inc. On 2/22/05 11:39 PM, "Todd Plants" wrote: > I know that there have historically been problems using Missing Sync > with a Pocket PC to sync with both a Mac and Outlook on a Windows box. > Have these problems been resolved? Has a workaround been published? > > This post from 2003 describes the problems I used to have (about 1 year > ago) to a T: > > http://lists.markspace.com/pipermail/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk/2003- > October/008221.html > > Please advise. > > thanks > todd > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk _______________________________________________ missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found at: http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk From dneil at markspace.com Fri Feb 25 10:47:14 2005 From: dneil at markspace.com (David Neil) Date: Fri Feb 25 07:47:14 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Sync to Mac and XP? In-Reply-To: <5F1DCDB10BA46F4DA4439D994FC0EFDF02810A44@EXNJMB22.nam.nsroot.net> Message-ID: Rick, The way Outlook formats data on the device causes problems when syncing on the Mac with Outlook. The fact that Rockey or others are syncing to GroupWise or anything else just means that they are having success with their environment. As far as Missing Sync for Pocket PC version 1.0.4 is concerned, we don't recommend syncing to multiple machines, and Outlook specifically is a problem. I'm not saying your can't sync to more then one machine, I'm saying what we recommend. I AM saying, you can't sync to Outlook and a Mac with Missing Sync for Pocket PC 1.0.4. I have not heard of anyone who has success with that specific mix. Dave Neil Mark/Space, Inc. On 2/25/05 9:37 AM, "Mavrovich, Rick" wrote: > Dear Dave Neil: > > You have me confused now. I am hearing from others that you can do it and now > you say that you can't. please read the following email from Rockey: > > "I have been following this discussion and I am not sure I understand the > problem with syncing your PPC with XP and OSX. I am a new PPC and new > MS user who has just recently joined the list. > > You shouldn't have any trouble syncing your PPC between the two > computers. Windows Mobile supports synchronization with multiple > computers. Your pocket PC will maintain connection information for two > systems, any more and you will have to delete a profile to create another. > > I sync my PPC to my PowerBook with MS at home and I use ActiveSync > combined with GroupWise PDA Sync to sync with GroupWise on my Windows > 2000 workstation at work. Besides keeping personal data separate from > business data, I haven't really had any trouble. > > I might be able to help you all find a solution to the Sync to Mac and > 2000/XP problem but need to know more precisely what the problem is. > > Take Care, > -Rockey" > > Cheers, > > Rick > > -----Original Message----- > From: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com > [mailto:missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com]On Behalf > Of David Neil > Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 11:14 PM > To: The Missing Sync (Mac/Pocket PC) > Subject: Re: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Sync to Mac and XP? > > > Todd, > > As of now, the issues with syncing to both Outlook and to a Mac with Missing > Sync for Pocket PC persist in the shipping version if Missing Sync which is > version 1.0.4. I don't know of any work around being published elsewhere, > but none here. Ryan just posted that he can use GroupWise without a problem. > Obviously this isn't a work around because it isn't using Outlook, and > GroupWise is an enterprise type solution, not an end user program. > > As of now, what Dave Koziol just posted is what is relevant: "In the 1.0.4 > product, you should NOT attempt to synchronize a Pocket PC with two > computers." > > Particularly not with Outlook. > > Dave Neil > MarkSpace Inc. > > > On 2/22/05 11:39 PM, "Todd Plants" wrote: > >> I know that there have historically been problems using Missing Sync >> with a Pocket PC to sync with both a Mac and Outlook on a Windows box. >> Have these problems been resolved? Has a workaround been published? >> >> This post from 2003 describes the problems I used to have (about 1 year >> ago) to a T: >> >> http://lists.markspace.com/pipermail/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk/2003- >> October/008221.html >> >> Please advise. >> >> thanks >> todd >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com >> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found >> at: >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk From rick.mavrovich at citigroup.com Fri Feb 25 11:54:20 2005 From: rick.mavrovich at citigroup.com (Mavrovich, Rick) Date: Fri Feb 25 08:55:27 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Sync to Mac and XP? Message-ID: <5F1DCDB10BA46F4DA4439D994FC0EFDF02810A86@EXNJMB22.nam.nsroot.net> Dave thank you for your note and I do want to make a clarification. I believe Rockey and others (eg: TDefriez@cs.com - see comment below) are using Entourage on the MAC and Outlook on the Windows environment. "Note I am only using Entourage on Mac so that maybe why I can do this (use PocketInformant on PPC), I hate iCal etc." Cheers, Rick -----Original Message----- From: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com [mailto:missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com]On Behalf Of David Neil Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 10:47 AM To: The Missing Sync (Mac/Pocket PC) Subject: Re: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Sync to Mac and XP? Rick, The way Outlook formats data on the device causes problems when syncing on the Mac with Outlook. The fact that Rockey or others are syncing to GroupWise or anything else just means that they are having success with their environment. As far as Missing Sync for Pocket PC version 1.0.4 is concerned, we don't recommend syncing to multiple machines, and Outlook specifically is a problem. I'm not saying your can't sync to more then one machine, I'm saying what we recommend. I AM saying, you can't sync to Outlook and a Mac with Missing Sync for Pocket PC 1.0.4. I have not heard of anyone who has success with that specific mix. Dave Neil Mark/Space, Inc. On 2/25/05 9:37 AM, "Mavrovich, Rick" wrote: > Dear Dave Neil: > > You have me confused now. I am hearing from others that you can do it and now > you say that you can't. please read the following email from Rockey: > > "I have been following this discussion and I am not sure I understand the > problem with syncing your PPC with XP and OSX. I am a new PPC and new > MS user who has just recently joined the list. > > You shouldn't have any trouble syncing your PPC between the two > computers. Windows Mobile supports synchronization with multiple > computers. Your pocket PC will maintain connection information for two > systems, any more and you will have to delete a profile to create another. > > I sync my PPC to my PowerBook with MS at home and I use ActiveSync > combined with GroupWise PDA Sync to sync with GroupWise on my Windows > 2000 workstation at work. Besides keeping personal data separate from > business data, I haven't really had any trouble. > > I might be able to help you all find a solution to the Sync to Mac and > 2000/XP problem but need to know more precisely what the problem is. > > Take Care, > -Rockey" > > Cheers, > > Rick > > -----Original Message----- > From: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com > [mailto:missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com]On Behalf > Of David Neil > Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 11:14 PM > To: The Missing Sync (Mac/Pocket PC) > Subject: Re: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Sync to Mac and XP? > > > Todd, > > As of now, the issues with syncing to both Outlook and to a Mac with Missing > Sync for Pocket PC persist in the shipping version if Missing Sync which is > version 1.0.4. I don't know of any work around being published elsewhere, > but none here. Ryan just posted that he can use GroupWise without a problem. > Obviously this isn't a work around because it isn't using Outlook, and > GroupWise is an enterprise type solution, not an end user program. > > As of now, what Dave Koziol just posted is what is relevant: "In the 1.0.4 > product, you should NOT attempt to synchronize a Pocket PC with two > computers." > > Particularly not with Outlook. > > Dave Neil > MarkSpace Inc. > > > On 2/22/05 11:39 PM, "Todd Plants" wrote: > >> I know that there have historically been problems using Missing Sync >> with a Pocket PC to sync with both a Mac and Outlook on a Windows box. >> Have these problems been resolved? Has a workaround been published? >> >> This post from 2003 describes the problems I used to have (about 1 year >> ago) to a T: >> >> http://lists.markspace.com/pipermail/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk/2003- >> October/008221.html >> >> Please advise. >> >> thanks >> todd >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com >> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found >> at: >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk _______________________________________________ missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found at: http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk From dneil at markspace.com Fri Feb 25 12:11:48 2005 From: dneil at markspace.com (David Neil) Date: Fri Feb 25 09:11:47 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Sync to Mac and XP? In-Reply-To: <5F1DCDB10BA46F4DA4439D994FC0EFDF02810A86@EXNJMB22.nam.nsroot.net> Message-ID: Rick, You can't use Entourage on a Mac with Missing Sync for Pocket PC 1.0.4. The only option, until the release of Missing Sync for Windows Mobile, is iCal and Address book. Dave Neil Mark/Space, Inc. On 2/25/05 11:54 AM, "Mavrovich, Rick" wrote: > Dave thank you for your note and I do want to make a clarification. I believe > Rockey and others (eg: TDefriez@cs.com - see comment below) are using > Entourage on the MAC and Outlook on the Windows environment. > > "Note I am only using Entourage on Mac so that maybe why I can do this (use > PocketInformant on PPC), I hate iCal etc." > > Cheers, > > Rick > > -----Original Message----- > From: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com > [mailto:missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com]On Behalf > Of David Neil > Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 10:47 AM > To: The Missing Sync (Mac/Pocket PC) > Subject: Re: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Sync to Mac and XP? > > > Rick, > > The way Outlook formats data on the device causes problems when syncing on > the Mac with Outlook. The fact that Rockey or others are syncing to > GroupWise or anything else just means that they are having success with > their environment. As far as Missing Sync for Pocket PC version 1.0.4 is > concerned, we don't recommend syncing to multiple machines, and Outlook > specifically is a problem. > > I'm not saying your can't sync to more then one machine, I'm saying what we > recommend. I AM saying, you can't sync to Outlook and a Mac with Missing > Sync for Pocket PC 1.0.4. I have not heard of anyone who has success with > that specific mix. > > Dave Neil > Mark/Space, Inc. > > > On 2/25/05 9:37 AM, "Mavrovich, Rick" wrote: > >> Dear Dave Neil: >> >> You have me confused now. I am hearing from others that you can do it and now >> you say that you can't. please read the following email from Rockey: >> >> "I have been following this discussion and I am not sure I understand the >> problem with syncing your PPC with XP and OSX. I am a new PPC and new >> MS user who has just recently joined the list. >> >> You shouldn't have any trouble syncing your PPC between the two >> computers. Windows Mobile supports synchronization with multiple >> computers. Your pocket PC will maintain connection information for two >> systems, any more and you will have to delete a profile to create another. >> >> I sync my PPC to my PowerBook with MS at home and I use ActiveSync >> combined with GroupWise PDA Sync to sync with GroupWise on my Windows >> 2000 workstation at work. Besides keeping personal data separate from >> business data, I haven't really had any trouble. >> >> I might be able to help you all find a solution to the Sync to Mac and >> 2000/XP problem but need to know more precisely what the problem is. >> >> Take Care, >> -Rockey" >> >> Cheers, >> >> Rick >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com >> [mailto:missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com]On Behalf >> Of David Neil >> Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 11:14 PM >> To: The Missing Sync (Mac/Pocket PC) >> Subject: Re: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Sync to Mac and XP? >> >> >> Todd, >> >> As of now, the issues with syncing to both Outlook and to a Mac with Missing >> Sync for Pocket PC persist in the shipping version if Missing Sync which is >> version 1.0.4. I don't know of any work around being published elsewhere, >> but none here. Ryan just posted that he can use GroupWise without a problem. >> Obviously this isn't a work around because it isn't using Outlook, and >> GroupWise is an enterprise type solution, not an end user program. >> >> As of now, what Dave Koziol just posted is what is relevant: "In the 1.0.4 >> product, you should NOT attempt to synchronize a Pocket PC with two >> computers." >> >> Particularly not with Outlook. >> >> Dave Neil >> MarkSpace Inc. >> >> >> On 2/22/05 11:39 PM, "Todd Plants" wrote: >> >>> I know that there have historically been problems using Missing Sync >>> with a Pocket PC to sync with both a Mac and Outlook on a Windows box. >>> Have these problems been resolved? Has a workaround been published? >>> >>> This post from 2003 describes the problems I used to have (about 1 year >>> ago) to a T: >>> >>> http://lists.markspace.com/pipermail/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk/2003- >>> October/008221.html >>> >>> Please advise. >>> >>> thanks >>> todd >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list >>> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com >>> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be >>> found >>> at: >>> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com >> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found >> at: >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com >> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found >> at: >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk From rick.mavrovich at citigroup.com Fri Feb 25 12:16:57 2005 From: rick.mavrovich at citigroup.com (Mavrovich, Rick) Date: Fri Feb 25 09:18:01 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Sync to Mac and XP? Message-ID: <5F1DCDB10BA46F4DA4439D994FC0EFDF02810A91@EXNJMB22.nam.nsroot.net> Dear TDefriez@cs.com: Are you using Missing Sync or Pocket Mac when syncing Entourage on the Mac? -----Original Message----- From: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com [mailto:missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com]On Behalf Of David Neil Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 12:12 PM To: The Missing Sync (Mac/Pocket PC) Subject: Re: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Sync to Mac and XP? Rick, You can't use Entourage on a Mac with Missing Sync for Pocket PC 1.0.4. The only option, until the release of Missing Sync for Windows Mobile, is iCal and Address book. Dave Neil Mark/Space, Inc. On 2/25/05 11:54 AM, "Mavrovich, Rick" wrote: > Dave thank you for your note and I do want to make a clarification. I believe > Rockey and others (eg: TDefriez@cs.com - see comment below) are using > Entourage on the MAC and Outlook on the Windows environment. > > "Note I am only using Entourage on Mac so that maybe why I can do this (use > PocketInformant on PPC), I hate iCal etc." > > Cheers, > > Rick > > -----Original Message----- > From: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com > [mailto:missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com]On Behalf > Of David Neil > Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 10:47 AM > To: The Missing Sync (Mac/Pocket PC) > Subject: Re: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Sync to Mac and XP? > > > Rick, > > The way Outlook formats data on the device causes problems when syncing on > the Mac with Outlook. The fact that Rockey or others are syncing to > GroupWise or anything else just means that they are having success with > their environment. As far as Missing Sync for Pocket PC version 1.0.4 is > concerned, we don't recommend syncing to multiple machines, and Outlook > specifically is a problem. > > I'm not saying your can't sync to more then one machine, I'm saying what we > recommend. I AM saying, you can't sync to Outlook and a Mac with Missing > Sync for Pocket PC 1.0.4. I have not heard of anyone who has success with > that specific mix. > > Dave Neil > Mark/Space, Inc. > > > On 2/25/05 9:37 AM, "Mavrovich, Rick" wrote: > >> Dear Dave Neil: >> >> You have me confused now. I am hearing from others that you can do it and now >> you say that you can't. please read the following email from Rockey: >> >> "I have been following this discussion and I am not sure I understand the >> problem with syncing your PPC with XP and OSX. I am a new PPC and new >> MS user who has just recently joined the list. >> >> You shouldn't have any trouble syncing your PPC between the two >> computers. Windows Mobile supports synchronization with multiple >> computers. Your pocket PC will maintain connection information for two >> systems, any more and you will have to delete a profile to create another. >> >> I sync my PPC to my PowerBook with MS at home and I use ActiveSync >> combined with GroupWise PDA Sync to sync with GroupWise on my Windows >> 2000 workstation at work. Besides keeping personal data separate from >> business data, I haven't really had any trouble. >> >> I might be able to help you all find a solution to the Sync to Mac and >> 2000/XP problem but need to know more precisely what the problem is. >> >> Take Care, >> -Rockey" >> >> Cheers, >> >> Rick >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com >> [mailto:missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com]On Behalf >> Of David Neil >> Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 11:14 PM >> To: The Missing Sync (Mac/Pocket PC) >> Subject: Re: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Sync to Mac and XP? >> >> >> Todd, >> >> As of now, the issues with syncing to both Outlook and to a Mac with Missing >> Sync for Pocket PC persist in the shipping version if Missing Sync which is >> version 1.0.4. I don't know of any work around being published elsewhere, >> but none here. Ryan just posted that he can use GroupWise without a problem. >> Obviously this isn't a work around because it isn't using Outlook, and >> GroupWise is an enterprise type solution, not an end user program. >> >> As of now, what Dave Koziol just posted is what is relevant: "In the 1.0.4 >> product, you should NOT attempt to synchronize a Pocket PC with two >> computers." >> >> Particularly not with Outlook. >> >> Dave Neil >> MarkSpace Inc. >> >> >> On 2/22/05 11:39 PM, "Todd Plants" wrote: >> >>> I know that there have historically been problems using Missing Sync >>> with a Pocket PC to sync with both a Mac and Outlook on a Windows box. >>> Have these problems been resolved? Has a workaround been published? >>> >>> This post from 2003 describes the problems I used to have (about 1 year >>> ago) to a T: >>> >>> http://lists.markspace.com/pipermail/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk/2003- >>> October/008221.html >>> >>> Please advise. >>> >>> thanks >>> todd >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list >>> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com >>> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be >>> found >>> at: >>> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com >> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found >> at: >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com >> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found >> at: >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk _______________________________________________ missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found at: http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk From dneil at markspace.com Fri Feb 25 12:19:45 2005 From: dneil at markspace.com (David Neil) Date: Fri Feb 25 09:19:42 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Sync to Mac and XP? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Sorry for the duplicate here...but I want to be clear, you can't SYNC with Entourage on a Mac with Missing Sync for Pocket PC 1.0.4. You can USE it, I do, but you can't SYNC to it. Dave Neil Mark/Space, Inc. On 2/25/05 12:11 PM, "David Neil" wrote: > Rick, > > You can't use Entourage on a Mac with Missing Sync for Pocket PC 1.0.4. The > only option, until the release of Missing Sync for Windows Mobile, is iCal > and Address book. > > Dave Neil > Mark/Space, Inc. > > > On 2/25/05 11:54 AM, "Mavrovich, Rick" wrote: > >> Dave thank you for your note and I do want to make a clarification. I believe >> Rockey and others (eg: TDefriez@cs.com - see comment below) are using >> Entourage on the MAC and Outlook on the Windows environment. >> >> "Note I am only using Entourage on Mac so that maybe why I can do this (use >> PocketInformant on PPC), I hate iCal etc." >> >> Cheers, >> >> Rick >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com >> [mailto:missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com]On Behalf >> Of David Neil >> Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 10:47 AM >> To: The Missing Sync (Mac/Pocket PC) >> Subject: Re: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Sync to Mac and XP? >> >> >> Rick, >> >> The way Outlook formats data on the device causes problems when syncing on >> the Mac with Outlook. The fact that Rockey or others are syncing to >> GroupWise or anything else just means that they are having success with >> their environment. As far as Missing Sync for Pocket PC version 1.0.4 is >> concerned, we don't recommend syncing to multiple machines, and Outlook >> specifically is a problem. >> >> I'm not saying your can't sync to more then one machine, I'm saying what we >> recommend. I AM saying, you can't sync to Outlook and a Mac with Missing >> Sync for Pocket PC 1.0.4. I have not heard of anyone who has success with >> that specific mix. >> >> Dave Neil >> Mark/Space, Inc. >> >> >> On 2/25/05 9:37 AM, "Mavrovich, Rick" wrote: >> >>> Dear Dave Neil: >>> >>> You have me confused now. I am hearing from others that you can do it and >>> now >>> you say that you can't. please read the following email from Rockey: >>> >>> "I have been following this discussion and I am not sure I understand the >>> problem with syncing your PPC with XP and OSX. I am a new PPC and new >>> MS user who has just recently joined the list. >>> >>> You shouldn't have any trouble syncing your PPC between the two >>> computers. Windows Mobile supports synchronization with multiple >>> computers. Your pocket PC will maintain connection information for two >>> systems, any more and you will have to delete a profile to create another. >>> >>> I sync my PPC to my PowerBook with MS at home and I use ActiveSync >>> combined with GroupWise PDA Sync to sync with GroupWise on my Windows >>> 2000 workstation at work. Besides keeping personal data separate from >>> business data, I haven't really had any trouble. >>> >>> I might be able to help you all find a solution to the Sync to Mac and >>> 2000/XP problem but need to know more precisely what the problem is. >>> >>> Take Care, >>> -Rockey" >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Rick >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com >>> [mailto:missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com]On Behalf >>> Of David Neil >>> Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 11:14 PM >>> To: The Missing Sync (Mac/Pocket PC) >>> Subject: Re: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Sync to Mac and XP? >>> >>> >>> Todd, >>> >>> As of now, the issues with syncing to both Outlook and to a Mac with Missing >>> Sync for Pocket PC persist in the shipping version if Missing Sync which is >>> version 1.0.4. I don't know of any work around being published elsewhere, >>> but none here. Ryan just posted that he can use GroupWise without a problem. >>> Obviously this isn't a work around because it isn't using Outlook, and >>> GroupWise is an enterprise type solution, not an end user program. >>> >>> As of now, what Dave Koziol just posted is what is relevant: "In the 1.0.4 >>> product, you should NOT attempt to synchronize a Pocket PC with two >>> computers." >>> >>> Particularly not with Outlook. >>> >>> Dave Neil >>> MarkSpace Inc. >>> >>> >>> On 2/22/05 11:39 PM, "Todd Plants" wrote: >>> >>>> I know that there have historically been problems using Missing Sync >>>> with a Pocket PC to sync with both a Mac and Outlook on a Windows box. >>>> Have these problems been resolved? Has a workaround been published? >>>> >>>> This post from 2003 describes the problems I used to have (about 1 year >>>> ago) to a T: >>>> >>>> http://lists.markspace.com/pipermail/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk/2003- >>>> October/008221.html >>>> >>>> Please advise. >>>> >>>> thanks >>>> todd >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list >>>> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com >>>> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be >>>> found >>>> at: >>>> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list >>> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com >>> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be >>> found >>> at: >>> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list >>> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com >>> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be >>> found >>> at: >>> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com >> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found >> at: >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com >> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found >> at: >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk From darknerd2k at yahoo.com Fri Feb 25 09:20:52 2005 From: darknerd2k at yahoo.com (Joaquin Menchaca) Date: Fri Feb 25 09:21:00 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] RE: RE: Sync to Mac and XP? In-Reply-To: <200502242001.j1OK13wI021218@penguin.markspace.com> Message-ID: <20050225172052.40630.qmail@web31009.mail.mud.yahoo.com> The PocketMac will work with both Entourage and iSync. MissingSync only works with iSync. However, there is a new product called e2sync, which allows Entourage to synchronize with iSync. This makse Entourage an equal citizen with other iSync plug-ins (iPod, PocketMac, Palm, phones, etc.). With PocketMac, you go through their system instead of iSync to synchronize with Entourage. It works with either one or the other, and you have to manually switch each time (at least the last version I tried). Generally, I think PocketMac has more features, but feels more of a alpha-quality product, and requires 3 background applications to perform its work, and is slow. MissingSync IMHO is a much smoother product. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From TDefriez at cs.com Fri Feb 25 14:40:39 2005 From: TDefriez at cs.com (TDefriez@cs.com) Date: Fri Feb 25 11:40:49 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Sync to Mac and XP? Message-ID: <4C11FBA3.3D3E7388.007A6775@cs.com> PocketMac. I will switch back to Missing Sync once Entourage syncing is avaiable (prefer implimentation of Missing Sync, but failing needed support for Entourage I must use something else) "Mavrovich, Rick" wrote: >Dear TDefriez@cs.com: > >Are you using Missing Sync or Pocket Mac when syncing Entourage on the Mac? > >-----Original Message----- >From: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com >[mailto:missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com]On Behalf >Of David Neil >Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 12:12 PM >To: The Missing Sync (Mac/Pocket PC) >Subject: Re: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Sync to Mac and XP? > > >Rick, > >You can't use Entourage on a Mac with Missing Sync for Pocket PC 1.0.4. The >only option, until the release of Missing Sync for Windows Mobile, is iCal >and Address book. > >Dave Neil >Mark/Space, Inc. > > >On 2/25/05 11:54 AM, "Mavrovich, Rick" wrote: > >> Dave thank you for your note and I do want to make a clarification. I believe >> Rockey and others (eg: TDefriez@cs.com - see comment below) are using >> Entourage on the MAC and Outlook on the Windows environment. >> >> "Note I am only using Entourage on Mac so that maybe why I can do this (use >> PocketInformant on PPC), I hate iCal etc." >> >> Cheers, >> >> Rick >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com >> [mailto:missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com]On Behalf >> Of David Neil >> Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 10:47 AM >> To: The Missing Sync (Mac/Pocket PC) >> Subject: Re: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Sync to Mac and XP? >> >> >> Rick, >> >> The way Outlook formats data on the device causes problems when syncing on >> the Mac with Outlook. The fact that Rockey or others are syncing to >> GroupWise or anything else just means that they are having success with >> their environment. As far as Missing Sync for Pocket PC version 1.0.4 is >> concerned, we don't recommend syncing to multiple machines, and Outlook >> specifically is a problem. >> >> I'm not saying your can't sync to more then one machine, I'm saying what we >> recommend. I AM saying, you can't sync to Outlook and a Mac with Missing >> Sync for Pocket PC 1.0.4. I have not heard of anyone who has success with >> that specific mix. >> >> Dave Neil >> Mark/Space, Inc. >> >> >> On 2/25/05 9:37 AM, "Mavrovich, Rick" wrote: >> >>> Dear Dave Neil: >>> >>> You have me confused now. I am hearing from others that you can do it and now >>> you say that you can't. please read the following email from Rockey: >>> >>> "I have been following this discussion and I am not sure I understand the >>> problem with syncing your PPC with XP and OSX. ?I am a new PPC and new >>> MS user who has just recently joined the list. >>> >>> You shouldn't have any trouble syncing your PPC between the two >>> computers. ?Windows Mobile supports synchronization with multiple >>> computers. ?Your pocket PC will maintain connection information for two >>> systems, any more and you will have to delete a profile to create another. >>> >>> I sync my PPC to my PowerBook with MS at home and I use ActiveSync >>> combined with GroupWise PDA Sync to sync with GroupWise on my Windows >>> 2000 workstation at work. Besides keeping personal data separate from >>> business data, I haven't really had any trouble. >>> >>> I might be able to help you all find a solution to the Sync to Mac and >>> 2000/XP problem but need to know more precisely what the problem is. >>> >>> Take Care, >>> -Rockey" >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Rick >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com >>> [mailto:missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com]On Behalf >>> Of David Neil >>> Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 11:14 PM >>> To: The Missing Sync (Mac/Pocket PC) >>> Subject: Re: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Sync to Mac and XP? >>> >>> >>> Todd, >>> >>> As of now, the issues with syncing to both Outlook and to a Mac with Missing >>> Sync for Pocket PC persist in the shipping version if Missing Sync which is >>> version 1.0.4. I don't know of any work around being published elsewhere, >>> but none here. Ryan just posted that he can use GroupWise without a problem. >>> Obviously this isn't a work around because it isn't using Outlook, and >>> GroupWise is an enterprise type solution, not an end user program. >>> >>> As of now, what Dave Koziol just posted is what is relevant: "In the 1.0.4 >>> product, you should NOT attempt to synchronize a Pocket PC with two >>> computers." >>> >>> Particularly not with Outlook. >>> >>> Dave Neil >>> MarkSpace Inc. >>> >>> >>> On 2/22/05 11:39 PM, "Todd Plants" wrote: >>> >>>> I know that there have historically been problems using Missing Sync >>>> with a Pocket PC to sync with both a Mac and Outlook on a Windows box. >>>> Have these problems been resolved? ?Has a workaround been published? >>>> >>>> This post from 2003 describes the problems I used to have (about 1 year >>>> ago) to a T: >>>> >>>> http://lists.markspace.com/pipermail/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk/2003- >>>> October/008221.html >>>> >>>> Please advise. >>>> >>>> thanks >>>> todd >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list >>>> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com >>>> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be >>>> found >>>> at: >>>> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list >>> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com >>> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found >>> at: >>> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list >>> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com >>> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found >>> at: >>> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com >> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found >> at: >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com >> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found >> at: >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > > >_______________________________________________ >missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list >missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com >Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found at: >http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > >_______________________________________________ >missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list >missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com >Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found at: >http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > From TDefriez at cs.com Fri Feb 25 14:44:27 2005 From: TDefriez at cs.com (TDefriez@cs.com) Date: Fri Feb 25 11:44:35 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Sync to Mac and XP? Message-ID: <1190982D.1003164A.007A6775@cs.com> Correct Entourage on Mac and Outlook 2003 on XP Pro. Also PocketMac for sync on Mac (because it supports Entourage) and ActiveSync on XP "Mavrovich, Rick" wrote: >Dave thank you for your note and I do want to make a clarification. I believe Rockey and others (eg: TDefriez@cs.com - see comment below) are using Entourage on the MAC and Outlook on the Windows environment. > >"Note I am only using Entourage on Mac so that maybe why I can do this (use PocketInformant on PPC), I hate iCal etc." > >Cheers, > >Rick > >-----Original Message----- >From: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com >[mailto:missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com]On Behalf >Of David Neil >Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 10:47 AM >To: The Missing Sync (Mac/Pocket PC) >Subject: Re: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Sync to Mac and XP? > > >Rick, > >The way Outlook formats data on the device causes problems when syncing on >the Mac with Outlook. The fact that Rockey or others are syncing to >GroupWise or anything else just means that they are having success with >their environment. As far as Missing Sync for Pocket PC version 1.0.4 is >concerned, we don't recommend syncing to multiple machines, and Outlook >specifically is a problem. > >I'm not saying your can't sync to more then one machine, I'm saying what we >recommend. I AM saying, you can't sync to Outlook and a Mac with Missing >Sync for Pocket PC 1.0.4. I have not heard of anyone who has success with >that specific mix. > >Dave Neil >Mark/Space, Inc. > > >On 2/25/05 9:37 AM, "Mavrovich, Rick" wrote: > >> Dear Dave Neil: >> >> You have me confused now. I am hearing from others that you can do it and now >> you say that you can't. please read the following email from Rockey: >> >> "I have been following this discussion and I am not sure I understand the >> problem with syncing your PPC with XP and OSX. ?I am a new PPC and new >> MS user who has just recently joined the list. >> >> You shouldn't have any trouble syncing your PPC between the two >> computers. ?Windows Mobile supports synchronization with multiple >> computers. ?Your pocket PC will maintain connection information for two >> systems, any more and you will have to delete a profile to create another. >> >> I sync my PPC to my PowerBook with MS at home and I use ActiveSync >> combined with GroupWise PDA Sync to sync with GroupWise on my Windows >> 2000 workstation at work. Besides keeping personal data separate from >> business data, I haven't really had any trouble. >> >> I might be able to help you all find a solution to the Sync to Mac and >> 2000/XP problem but need to know more precisely what the problem is. >> >> Take Care, >> -Rockey" >> >> Cheers, >> >> Rick >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com >> [mailto:missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com]On Behalf >> Of David Neil >> Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 11:14 PM >> To: The Missing Sync (Mac/Pocket PC) >> Subject: Re: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Sync to Mac and XP? >> >> >> Todd, >> >> As of now, the issues with syncing to both Outlook and to a Mac with Missing >> Sync for Pocket PC persist in the shipping version if Missing Sync which is >> version 1.0.4. I don't know of any work around being published elsewhere, >> but none here. Ryan just posted that he can use GroupWise without a problem. >> Obviously this isn't a work around because it isn't using Outlook, and >> GroupWise is an enterprise type solution, not an end user program. >> >> As of now, what Dave Koziol just posted is what is relevant: "In the 1.0.4 >> product, you should NOT attempt to synchronize a Pocket PC with two >> computers." >> >> Particularly not with Outlook. >> >> Dave Neil >> MarkSpace Inc. >> >> >> On 2/22/05 11:39 PM, "Todd Plants" wrote: >> >>> I know that there have historically been problems using Missing Sync >>> with a Pocket PC to sync with both a Mac and Outlook on a Windows box. >>> Have these problems been resolved? ?Has a workaround been published? >>> >>> This post from 2003 describes the problems I used to have (about 1 year >>> ago) to a T: >>> >>> http://lists.markspace.com/pipermail/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk/2003- >>> October/008221.html >>> >>> Please advise. >>> >>> thanks >>> todd >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list >>> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com >>> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found >>> at: >>> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com >> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found >> at: >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com >> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found >> at: >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > > >_______________________________________________ >missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list >missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com >Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found at: >http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > >_______________________________________________ >missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list >missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com >Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found at: >http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > From walterobrien at earthlink.net Fri Feb 25 15:14:18 2005 From: walterobrien at earthlink.net (Walter O'Brien) Date: Fri Feb 25 12:14:21 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Re: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk Digest, Vol 25, Issue 5 In-Reply-To: <200502251705.j1PH5CwH019601@penguin.markspace.com> References: <200502251705.j1PH5CwH019601@penguin.markspace.com> Message-ID: This is really disturbing - i HARD reset the Samsung SPH-i700 for the third or fourth time after getting "absurd length" error messages and no syncing success... I downloaded a clean version of Missing Sync and reinstalled to a clean new G5 Computer. I created a BRAND NEW EMPTY iCal file. I HAND TYPED in all my calendar items, taking in none from any other source, no imports with any corruptioins, all hand typed. It synced beautifully for about 3 days. Now, I just got the "absurd length" error message again. I have not touched a Windows machine, I have only used my Mac G5, iCal and Address Book. No Outlook, no Virtual PC, nothing else. Only this computer, not two computers. Here is the message I just got: Friday, February 25, 2005 10:06 AM Conduit Pocket_PC generated exception NSInvalidArgumentException: *** -[NSConcreteMutableData setLength:]: absurd length: -2, maximum size: -2147483648 bytes. can't connect to the device to synchronize Pocket_PC. Any thoughts???? Help! Walter O'Brien From kfreeman at markspace.com Fri Feb 25 14:10:43 2005 From: kfreeman at markspace.com (Ken Freeman) Date: Fri Feb 25 14:10:56 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Re: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk Digest, Vol 25, Issue 5 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Walter, it's possible that one of the events is causing this error. Can you send the iCal files to support@markspace.com. The iCal files are located in the user's Library/Calendars folder. Are you using the standard Calendar, Contacts, and To Do apps on the device, or any third party apps for your PIM data? Did you edit any particular events after the 3 days and then get the error? Ken On 2/25/05 12:14 PM, "Walter O'Brien" wrote: > This is really disturbing - i HARD reset the Samsung SPH-i700 for the > third or fourth time after getting "absurd length" error messages and > no syncing success... > > I downloaded a clean version of Missing Sync and reinstalled to a clean > new G5 Computer. I created a BRAND NEW EMPTY iCal file. I HAND TYPED in > all my calendar items, taking in none from any other source, no imports > with any corruptioins, all hand typed. It synced beautifully for about > 3 days. > > Now, I just got the "absurd length" error message again. I have not > touched a Windows machine, I have only used my Mac G5, iCal and Address > Book. No Outlook, no Virtual PC, nothing else. Only this computer, not > two computers. > > Here is the message I just got: > > Friday, February 25, 2005 10:06 AM > Conduit Pocket_PC generated exception NSInvalidArgumentException: *** > -[NSConcreteMutableData setLength:]: absurd length: -2, maximum size: > -2147483648 bytes. > can't connect to the device to synchronize Pocket_PC. > > > Any thoughts???? Help! > > Walter O'Brien > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk From darknerd2k at yahoo.com Fri Feb 25 17:02:45 2005 From: darknerd2k at yahoo.com (Joaquin Menchaca) Date: Fri Feb 25 17:02:48 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] RE: Sync to Mac and XP? In-Reply-To: <200502252021.j1PKKwwI025917@penguin.markspace.com> Message-ID: <20050226010245.4539.qmail@web31001.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Dave, Is there anyway to get specifics? I did a lot of scripting for Outlook objects, and I did notice a few bizarre objects created on only PocketPC, but somehow magically supported Outlook ver. 9 and above. Maybe the reverse is true, as hinted by the e-mail. I'm considering working of something that will allow full interoperability with Exchange server on the Macintosh, and hence indirect synchronization of MAPI data on both Macintosh and Windows. -- Joaquin Menchaca __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 From walterobrien at earthlink.net Sat Feb 26 15:18:29 2005 From: walterobrien at earthlink.net (Walter O'Brien) Date: Sat Feb 26 12:18:34 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Re: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk Digest, Vol 25, Issue 8 In-Reply-To: <200502262005.j1QK5YwH019131@penguin.markspace.com> References: <200502262005.j1QK5YwH019131@penguin.markspace.com> Message-ID: <7820a176c4846db7051a3077b7009c35@earthlink.net> I will send the iCal file - JUST before I got this from you I hand typed the changed events to update the iCal calendar, did another hard reset on the Samsung i700.. and just now synced iCal updated BACK to the device.. so far so good, but last time it did only last 3 days. Yes I am using the standard Calendar, Contacts and To Dos on the device, NO third party apps for PIM data. none. and am using standard iCal and Address Book on the Mac. My To Dos all got lost in the last round of changes.. nothing i won't eventually remember but i can't keep losing event data - its where i keep specific classwork assignments and appointments and work assignments... re your question did i edit any particular events... nothing i could pinpoint - i edit a lot of them every day as i move undone things forward, update changed appointments, add new things... hard to pinpoint which change during the day makes the next daily sync go bad, as you can imagine. thanks, i will send the ical to support... walter On Feb 26, 2005, at 3:05 PM, missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-request@lists.markspace.com wrote: > Walter, it's possible that one of the events is causing this error. > Can you > send the iCal files to support@markspace.com. The iCal files are > located in > the user's Library/Calendars folder. > > Are you using the standard Calendar, Contacts, and To Do apps on the > device, > or any third party apps for your PIM data? > > Did you edit any particular events after the 3 days and then get the > error? > > Ken From richard.hughes at xbc.com.au Sun Feb 27 08:55:52 2005 From: richard.hughes at xbc.com.au (Richard Hughes) Date: Sat Feb 26 14:56:01 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Isync trouble Message-ID: Hi, I have installed missing sync for Pocket Pc on my Mac, I had the device plugged in when I installed, now isync crashes every time I try to load it, the instructions say don?t have the device plugged in but I didn?t read them until afterwards. How can I go back and fix the problem? I have uninstalled missing sync and reinstalled isync and the problem is still there. I have installed correctly on a friends Mac and it all works fine. Any help would be greatly appreciated. RH From dneil at markspace.com Mon Feb 28 14:58:22 2005 From: dneil at markspace.com (David Neil) Date: Mon Feb 28 11:58:23 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] RE: Sync to Mac and XP? In-Reply-To: <20050226010245.4539.qmail@web31001.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Joaquin, I'm sorry, I don't have specifics. Just that Outlook formats the data in such a way that it is problematic as you indicated yourself. Being that I'm not a programmer I can't speak to this at the level you are asking. Dave Neil Mark/Space, Inc. On 2/25/05 8:02 PM, "Joaquin Menchaca" wrote: > Dave, > > Is there anyway to get specifics? I did a lot of > scripting for Outlook objects, and I did notice a few > bizarre objects created on only PocketPC, but somehow > magically supported Outlook ver. 9 and above. Maybe > the reverse is true, as hinted by the e-mail. > > I'm considering working of something that will allow > full interoperability with Exchange server on the > Macintosh, and hence indirect synchronization of MAPI > data on both Macintosh and Windows. > > -- Joaquin Menchaca > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. > http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk From plants at post.harvard.edu Tue Feb 22 23:39:27 2005 From: plants at post.harvard.edu (Todd Plants) Date: Fri May 6 12:04:19 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Sync to Mac and XP? Message-ID: I know that there have historically been problems using Missing Sync with a Pocket PC to sync with both a Mac and Outlook on a Windows box. Have these problems been resolved? Has a workaround been published? This post from 2003 describes the problems I used to have (about 1 year ago) to a T: http://lists.markspace.com/pipermail/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk/2003- October/008221.html Please advise. thanks todd From rick.mavrovich at citigroup.com Wed Feb 23 10:07:15 2005 From: rick.mavrovich at citigroup.com (Mavrovich, Rick) Date: Fri May 6 12:04:19 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Sync to Mac and XP? Message-ID: <5F1DCDB10BA46F4DA4439D994FC0EFDF028107D9@EXNJMB22.nam.nsroot.net> Thank you Todd. This is very useful to me. Cheers, Rick -----Original Message----- From: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com [mailto:missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com]On Behalf Of Todd Plants Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 11:39 PM To: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Sync to Mac and XP? I know that there have historically been problems using Missing Sync with a Pocket PC to sync with both a Mac and Outlook on a Windows box. Have these problems been resolved? Has a workaround been published? This post from 2003 describes the problems I used to have (about 1 year ago) to a T: http://lists.markspace.com/pipermail/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk/2003- October/008221.html Please advise. thanks todd _______________________________________________ missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found at: http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk From plants at post.harvard.edu Wed Feb 23 16:03:00 2005 From: plants at post.harvard.edu (Todd Plants) Date: Fri May 6 12:04:19 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] RE: Sync to Mac and XP? In-Reply-To: <200502232026.j1NKQjwG020865@penguin.markspace.com> Message-ID: <429902C5229C2C4E951C325723D35C37021CD6C4@MAILSERVER.dscc.org> Well, I'm happy to know my inquiry was useful, but I'm still lookin' for an answer... :) todd -----Original Message----- From: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com [mailto:missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com] On Behalf Of missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-request@lists.markspace.com Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 3:27 PM To: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com Subject: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk Digest, Vol 25, Issue 2 Send missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list submissions to missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-request@lists.markspace.com You can reach the person managing the list at missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-owner@lists.markspace.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of missing-sync-pocketpc-talk digest..." _______________________________________________ missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found at: http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk _______________________________________________ Today's Topics: 1. Sync to Mac and XP? (Todd Plants) 2. RE: Sync to Mac and XP? (Mavrovich, Rick) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 23:39:27 -0500 From: Todd Plants Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Sync to Mac and XP? To: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed I know that there have historically been problems using Missing Sync with a Pocket PC to sync with both a Mac and Outlook on a Windows box. Have these problems been resolved? Has a workaround been published? This post from 2003 describes the problems I used to have (about 1 year ago) to a T: http://lists.markspace.com/pipermail/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk/2003- October/008221.html Please advise. thanks todd ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 10:07:15 -0500 From: "Mavrovich, Rick" Subject: RE: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Sync to Mac and XP? To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Pocket PC\)" Message-ID: <5F1DCDB10BA46F4DA4439D994FC0EFDF028107D9@EXNJMB22.nam.nsroot.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Thank you Todd. This is very useful to me. Cheers, Rick -----Original Message----- From: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com [mailto:missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com]On Behalf Of Todd Plants Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 11:39 PM To: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Sync to Mac and XP? I know that there have historically been problems using Missing Sync with a Pocket PC to sync with both a Mac and Outlook on a Windows box. Have these problems been resolved? Has a workaround been published? This post from 2003 describes the problems I used to have (about 1 year ago) to a T: http://lists.markspace.com/pipermail/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk/2003- October/008221.html Please advise. thanks todd _______________________________________________ missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found at: http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found at: http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk End of missing-sync-pocketpc-talk Digest, Vol 25, Issue 2 ********************************************************* From rick.mavrovich at citigroup.com Wed Feb 23 16:10:56 2005 From: rick.mavrovich at citigroup.com (Mavrovich, Rick) Date: Fri May 6 12:04:19 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] RE: Sync to Mac and XP? Message-ID: <5F1DCDB10BA46F4DA4439D994FC0EFDF02810889@EXNJMB22.nam.nsroot.net> So am I. I am almost tempted to hire my own programmers and then sell the solution. I am sure you and I are not the only two with this need. Cheers, Rick -----Original Message----- From: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com [mailto:missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com]On Behalf Of Todd Plants Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 4:03 PM To: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] RE: Sync to Mac and XP? Well, I'm happy to know my inquiry was useful, but I'm still lookin' for an answer... :) todd -----Original Message----- From: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com [mailto:missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com] On Behalf Of missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-request@lists.markspace.com Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 3:27 PM To: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com Subject: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk Digest, Vol 25, Issue 2 Send missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list submissions to missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-request@lists.markspace.com You can reach the person managing the list at missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-owner@lists.markspace.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of missing-sync-pocketpc-talk digest..." _______________________________________________ missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found at: http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk _______________________________________________ Today's Topics: 1. Sync to Mac and XP? (Todd Plants) 2. RE: Sync to Mac and XP? (Mavrovich, Rick) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 23:39:27 -0500 From: Todd Plants Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Sync to Mac and XP? To: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed I know that there have historically been problems using Missing Sync with a Pocket PC to sync with both a Mac and Outlook on a Windows box. Have these problems been resolved? Has a workaround been published? This post from 2003 describes the problems I used to have (about 1 year ago) to a T: http://lists.markspace.com/pipermail/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk/2003- October/008221.html Please advise. thanks todd ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 10:07:15 -0500 From: "Mavrovich, Rick" Subject: RE: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Sync to Mac and XP? To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Pocket PC\)" Message-ID: <5F1DCDB10BA46F4DA4439D994FC0EFDF028107D9@EXNJMB22.nam.nsroot.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Thank you Todd. This is very useful to me. Cheers, Rick -----Original Message----- From: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com [mailto:missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com]On Behalf Of Todd Plants Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 11:39 PM To: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Sync to Mac and XP? I know that there have historically been problems using Missing Sync with a Pocket PC to sync with both a Mac and Outlook on a Windows box. Have these problems been resolved? Has a workaround been published? This post from 2003 describes the problems I used to have (about 1 year ago) to a T: http://lists.markspace.com/pipermail/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk/2003- October/008221.html Please advise. thanks todd _______________________________________________ missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found at: http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found at: http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk End of missing-sync-pocketpc-talk Digest, Vol 25, Issue 2 ********************************************************* _______________________________________________ missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found at: http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk From mino at zazube.fsnet.co.uk Wed Feb 23 21:36:13 2005 From: mino at zazube.fsnet.co.uk (Mino Manekshaw) Date: Fri May 6 12:04:20 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] RE: Sync to Mac and XP? In-Reply-To: <5F1DCDB10BA46F4DA4439D994FC0EFDF02810889@EXNJMB22.nam.nsroot.net> Message-ID: Nope - me too...... Rewarded with total mayhem after I loaded PocketMac - I've now got about 300 reminders for my Mother-In-Law's birthday! Waiting for the missing-sync team to deliver a solution is almost as bad as waiting for my first kid to arrive ....!:o( Roll-on the beta-test programme Mino On 23/2/05 9:10 pm, "Mavrovich, Rick" wrote: > So am I. I am almost tempted to hire my own programmers and then sell the > solution. I am sure you and I are not the only two with this need. > > Cheers, > > Rick > > -----Original Message----- > From: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com > [mailto:missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com]On Behalf > Of Todd Plants > Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 4:03 PM > To: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] RE: Sync to Mac and XP? > > > Well, I'm happy to know my inquiry was useful, but I'm still lookin' for an > answer... :) > > todd From TDefriez at cs.com Wed Feb 23 17:13:27 2005 From: TDefriez at cs.com (TDefriez@cs.com) Date: Fri May 6 12:04:20 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] RE: Sync to Mac and XP? Message-ID: <3C4757EB.773F6E30.007A6775@cs.com> Talking of which, any update on the beta yet, you know the one with reported support for Entourage? I (due to recent changes at work) need to sync both XP and Mac, luckly due to the lack of a Entourage conduit for Missing Sync I'm using, dare I say, PocketMac and it does not have this issue (it has plenty of other but at least it work with Entourage on Mac and Outlook on XP). I prefered Missing Sync when I was using it but support for Apple programs only prevents me from using Missing Sync currently. Mino Manekshaw wrote: >Nope - me too...... Rewarded with total mayhem after I loaded PocketMac - >I've now got about 300 reminders for my Mother-In-Law's birthday! > >Waiting for the missing-sync team to deliver a solution is almost as bad as >waiting for my first kid to arrive ....!:o( > >Roll-on the beta-test programme > >Mino > > > >On 23/2/05 9:10 pm, "Mavrovich, Rick" wrote: > >> So am I. I am almost tempted to hire my own programmers and then sell the >> solution. I am sure you and I are not the only two with this need. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Rick >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com >> [mailto:missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com]On Behalf >> Of Todd Plants >> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 4:03 PM >> To: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com >> Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] RE: Sync to Mac and XP? >> >> >> Well, I'm happy to know my inquiry was useful, but I'm still lookin' for an >> answer... ?:) >> >> todd > > >_______________________________________________ >missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list >missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com >Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found at: >http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > From darknerd2k at yahoo.com Wed Feb 23 17:43:51 2005 From: darknerd2k at yahoo.com (Joaquin Menchaca) Date: Fri May 6 12:04:20 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] RE: Sync to Mac and XP? In-Reply-To: <200502232027.j1NKQjwI020865@penguin.markspace.com> Message-ID: <20050224014351.54862.qmail@web31008.mail.mud.yahoo.com> There are a few ways to do this outside of MissingSync: (1) Use an Exchange Server as the transfer mechanism (2) Use the iPod as the transfer mechanism (3) Script your own or use a plethora of tools. Exchange Server -------------------- If you use an Exchange Server for your Windows Outlook access, you can use Exchange as the way to get data from the Macintosh into Exchange, and then view it from Outlook from WindowsXP. On the Mac, there's Outlook 2001 (http://www.mactopia.com) which will work with an Exchange server. This tool runs under Mac OS 9, so it doesn't have the pretty Aqua user experience. It you can get data into Outlook 2001, you can then get synchronization. Somehow, when using Outlook 2001, it took data used in Entourage running on Mac OS X and auto-magically synchronized it with the Exchanage server. So, this might be the easiest method to get data into Outlook 2001 is by using Entourage. The problem with synchronizing Entourage with iSync (and hence the family of iTools) is that Apple is pretty closed about iSync, and does have public SDKs on this. However, I do remember some recent tools for this. One quick search on google brought e2sync for $39 at http://www.e2sync.com/. Thus this solution involves the following path to get data to go from PocketPC/Mac/OutlookWin solution: missingSync -> iSync -> e2Sync -> Entourage -> Outlook 2001 -> Exchange -> Outlook on WinXP. Using iPod ------------- Another possibility would be to use an iPod that can easily synchronize with Macintosh OS X iSync facility. This data would then be carted to Windows and use third party tool to get it. Once the iPod is accessible under Windows, there are several tools available that can suck PIM data from it and place it into Outook and vice-versa. You can find a good listing at http://www.ipodlounge.com. I think ipod-sync seems to be the cream of the crop and they can be found at http://www.ipod-sync.com/. This would involve the following path to get data to and from PocketPC/Mac/OutlookWindows solutions: missingSync -> iSync -> iPod -> Windows file browser* -> ipod-sync -> Outlook on WinXP * Note, that this is just used in theory. I have never tested an iPod formatted with the Windows file system (FAT32) on a Macintosh, and determined how well it works under both Windows and Macintosh. Alternatively, one can use the native Mac file system (HFS) under Windows using a tool like MacDrive (http://www.mediafour.com/products/macdrive6/). Scripting Your Own Solution -------------------------------- There are plenty of little tools and scripts out there that can do synchronization, or data import/extract. Much of the data in proprietary programs can be extracted and saved into standard formats like vCard or vCal (http://www.imc.org/pdi/) formats either (1) the application’s user interface in recent programs, (2) custom scripts especially for older programs, or (3) third party tools. There might be a problem specifically with iCal, as this doesn’t adhere to the standard vCal format, and is troublesome to work with. Some great tools for this is a PHP webbased utility that can import/export vCal formats called php icalendar (http://phpicalendar.sourceforge.net). Yahoo mail also supports some import/export capabilities with vCal and vCard formats. For rolling out your own scripts and solutions, here some notes below that might prove useful: Both Outlook 2001 and Entourage are scriptable using either AppleScript or another scripting language that supports AppleEvents, such as Perl through MacGlue module (or MacPerl at http://www.macperl.org for Mac OS 9). The Apple tools (Addressbook, iCal, etc.) also support scripting in this manner as well. On Windows, Outlook 97/2K/2K2/2K3 supports forms of scripting through OLE-Automation. This can be used to get at all the items at Outlook. This can be done through VBScripts using WSH or VBA, or through Perl using Windows OLE perl modules. On Windows, ActiveState Perl (http://www.activestate.com/Products/ActivePerl/) is a free solution that includes many of the needed modules. There’s a beautiful IDE for perl called Komodo that can be used to easily get into Perl programming. Off the topic, Komodo using Mozilla technologies, the same used for Firefox and it works on Linux and Solaris as well. Unfortunately, there is no Mac OS X solutions, despite numerous requests. I hope the above might be useful. regards, Joaquin Menchaca __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From eullman at markspace.com Wed Feb 23 21:47:09 2005 From: eullman at markspace.com (Eric Ullman) Date: Fri May 6 12:04:20 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] [PR] Mark/Space Expands Online Store with Third-party Software Message-ID: FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE MARK/SPACE EXPANDS ONLINE STORE WITH MAC-FRIENDLY SOFTWARE FOR PALM OS AND WINDOWS MOBILE HANDHELDS LOS GATOS, Calif.--February 24, 2005--Mark/Space, Inc., creator of The Missing Sync family of products, is now selling the top third-party applications for Palm OS and Windows Mobile/Pocket PC handheld devices in their online store. The Mark/Space Online Store is unique in its pure focus on providing applications from Mac-friendly developers. "Mac users now have a place to shop for handheld software applications where they aren't forced to wade through a sea of products that don't support the Mac," said Eric Ullman, Mark/Space's director of sales and marketing. "We've compiled a great selection of the most popular applications for both Palm Powered and Windows Mobile devices to start, and we plan to grow that selection to become the favorite one-stop handheld software shop for Mac users." Brian Hall, Mark/Space's president and CEO, explained that this move is all part of the company's plan to grow the Mac side of the market for PDAs and smartphones. "Traditionally, Mac users are early technology adopters, and they have been a cornerstone of the handheld market. Sadly, we've seen a drop in industry support for Mac users over the past few years. We're working hard to reverse that trend, and we're doing it with the help of our allies represented in the Mark/Space Online Store." All of the applications sold in the Mark/Space Online Store, including those for Windows Mobile devices, can be installed from a Mac. Currently, Mark/Space is offering long-time Mac favorites, including DataViz's Documents to Go, LandWare's Pocket Quicken, Llamagraphics Life Balance and SplashData's SplashPhoto. "We are thrilled to be part of the Mark/Space Online Store, as DataViz has been committed to the Macintosh platform for the last 21 years," said Annya Sedakova-Bertram, DataViz. "The store offers a convenient and tailored shopping experience for any Mac user looking for mobile software." John Chaffee, president of SplashData, remarked: "We're pleased to have SplashData's apps available in the new Mark/Space Online Store. SplashData and Mark/Space share a common commitment to providing Mac enthusiasts with handheld and desktop software designed exclusively for Mac. Given Mark/Space's large installed base of loyal Mac users, it's an ideal distribution channel for us." The Mark/Space Online Store can be found at http://store.markspace.com. ABOUT MARK/SPACE, INC. Founded in 1990, Mark/Space, Inc., www.markspace.com, develops and markets mobile and wireless software, including the award-winning Missing Sync products that connect a Mac OS computer to handheld devices from Dell, HP, PalmOne, Sony, Toshiba and others. # # # Mark/Space and The Missing Sync are trademarks of Mark/Space, Inc. All other product and brand names may be trademarks or registered trademarks of their respective owners. COMPANY CONTACT: Eric Ullman Director of Sales and Marketing eullman@markspace.com From rick.mavrovich at citigroup.com Thu Feb 24 09:40:53 2005 From: rick.mavrovich at citigroup.com (Mavrovich, Rick) Date: Fri May 6 12:04:20 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] RE: Sync to Mac and XP? Message-ID: <5F1DCDB10BA46F4DA4439D994FC0EFDF02810914@EXNJMB22.nam.nsroot.net> Dear TDefriez@cs.com: I asked PocketMac a couple of weeks ago if I could do what you describe but they told me no. Can you describe how you set things up? I would like to do the same thing. My work computer runs windows 2000 and my home computer is a G4 with the latest version of OSX. I have the option of running either Entourage or the suite of MAC apps(iCal, adress book, etc) on my MAC. Cheers, Rick -----Original Message----- From: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com [mailto:missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com]On Behalf Of TDefriez@cs.com Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 5:13 PM To: "The Missing Sync (Mac/Pocket PC)" Subject: Re: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] RE: Sync to Mac and XP? Talking of which, any update on the beta yet, you know the one with reported support for Entourage? I (due to recent changes at work) need to sync both XP and Mac, luckly due to the lack of a Entourage conduit for Missing Sync I'm using, dare I say, PocketMac and it does not have this issue (it has plenty of other but at least it work with Entourage on Mac and Outlook on XP). I prefered Missing Sync when I was using it but support for Apple programs only prevents me from using Missing Sync currently. Mino Manekshaw wrote: >Nope - me too...... Rewarded with total mayhem after I loaded PocketMac - >I've now got about 300 reminders for my Mother-In-Law's birthday! > >Waiting for the missing-sync team to deliver a solution is almost as bad as >waiting for my first kid to arrive ....!:o( > >Roll-on the beta-test programme > >Mino > > > >On 23/2/05 9:10 pm, "Mavrovich, Rick" wrote: > >> So am I. I am almost tempted to hire my own programmers and then sell the >> solution. I am sure you and I are not the only two with this need. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Rick >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com >> [mailto:missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com]On Behalf >> Of Todd Plants >> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 4:03 PM >> To: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com >> Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] RE: Sync to Mac and XP? >> >> >> Well, I'm happy to know my inquiry was useful, but I'm still lookin' for an >> answer... ?:) >> >> todd > > >_______________________________________________ >missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list >missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com >Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found at: >http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > _______________________________________________ missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found at: http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk From John at ecove.net Thu Feb 24 17:27:34 2005 From: John at ecove.net (John Tenny) Date: Fri May 6 12:04:20 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] [PR] Mark/Space Expands Online Store with Third-party Software In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <06070aa20d8f5d547130d4a75d62dd36@ecove.net> Wonderful announcement and I'm glad that you're working to support the Mac and Windows handhelds. However, as a software developer with a program on the Windows handheld (as well as Palm), recommending MS for Pocket PC has generated so many user help requests for things related to MS and not my software, that I have stopped the recommendations. I've waited (and waited) for something that indicates that there is a real interest on the part of MS to fix the PPC version, but I just don't see it. I can't in good conscience recommend that a mac owner purchase a PPC. I do hope this changes soon. I understand about not quoting due dates, but something about progress, features, whatever would be useful. A caution: be honest. One stretched bit of truth and you'll do yourself big damage. Peace, John John L. Tenny, Ph.D. eCOVE: Classroom Observation Toolkit Software www.ecove.net John@ecove.net 1-888-363-2683 (888-DO ECOVE) fax: 503-965-3692 ----------------- On Feb 23, 2005, at 9:47 PM, Eric Ullman wrote: > FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE > > > MARK/SPACE EXPANDS ONLINE STORE WITH MAC-FRIENDLY SOFTWARE FOR PALM OS > AND > WINDOWS MOBILE HANDHELDS > > > LOS GATOS, Calif.--February 24, 2005--Mark/Space, Inc., creator of The > Missing Sync family of products, is now selling the top third-party > applications for Palm OS and Windows Mobile/Pocket PC handheld devices > in > their online store. The Mark/Space Online Store is unique in its pure > focus > on providing applications from Mac-friendly developers. > > "Mac users now have a place to shop for handheld software applications > where > they aren't forced to wade through a sea of products that don't > support the > Mac," said Eric Ullman, Mark/Space's director of sales and marketing. > "We've > compiled a great selection of the most popular applications for both > Palm > Powered and Windows Mobile devices to start, and we plan to grow that > selection to become the favorite one-stop handheld software shop for > Mac > users." > > Brian Hall, Mark/Space's president and CEO, explained that this move > is all > part of the company's plan to grow the Mac side of the market for PDAs > and > smartphones. "Traditionally, Mac users are early technology adopters, > and > they have been a cornerstone of the handheld market. Sadly, we've seen > a > drop in industry support for Mac users over the past few years. We're > working hard to reverse that trend, and we're doing it with the help > of our > allies represented in the Mark/Space Online Store." > > All of the applications sold in the Mark/Space Online Store, including > those > for Windows Mobile devices, can be installed from a Mac. Currently, > Mark/Space is offering long-time Mac favorites, including DataViz's > Documents to Go, LandWare's Pocket Quicken, Llamagraphics Life Balance > and > SplashData's SplashPhoto. > > "We are thrilled to be part of the Mark/Space Online Store, as DataViz > has > been committed to the Macintosh platform for the last 21 years," said > Annya > Sedakova-Bertram, DataViz. "The store offers a convenient and tailored > shopping experience for any Mac user looking for mobile software." > > John Chaffee, president of SplashData, remarked: "We're pleased to have > SplashData's apps available in the new Mark/Space Online Store. > SplashData > and Mark/Space share a common commitment to providing Mac enthusiasts > with > handheld and desktop software designed exclusively for Mac. Given > Mark/Space's large installed base of loyal Mac users, it's an ideal > distribution channel for us." > > The Mark/Space Online Store can be found at http://store.markspace.com. > > > ABOUT MARK/SPACE, INC. > Founded in 1990, Mark/Space, Inc., www.markspace.com, develops and > markets > mobile and wireless software, including the award-winning Missing Sync > products that connect a Mac OS computer to handheld devices from Dell, > HP, > PalmOne, Sony, Toshiba and others. > > # # # > > Mark/Space and The Missing Sync are trademarks of Mark/Space, Inc. All > other > product and brand names may be trademarks or registered trademarks of > their > respective owners. > > > COMPANY CONTACT: > Eric Ullman > Director of Sales and Marketing > eullman@markspace.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > > > ___________________________________________________________ > $0 Web Hosting with up to 120MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer > 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. > Signup at www.doteasy.com > From rprockey at geekfoo.net Thu Feb 24 22:50:24 2005 From: rprockey at geekfoo.net (Ryan P. Rockey) Date: Fri May 6 12:04:20 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] RE: Sync to Mac and XP? In-Reply-To: <5F1DCDB10BA46F4DA4439D994FC0EFDF02810914@EXNJMB22.nam.nsroot.net> References: <5F1DCDB10BA46F4DA4439D994FC0EFDF02810914@EXNJMB22.nam.nsroot.net> Message-ID: <421EA080.9040408@geekfoo.net> I have been following this discussion and I am not sure I understand the problem with syncing your PPC with XP and OSX. I am a new PPC and new MS user who has just recently joined the list. You shouldn't have any trouble syncing your PPC between the two computers. Windows Mobile supports synchronization with multiple computers. Your pocket PC will maintain connection information for two systems, any more and you will have to delete a profile to create another. I sync my PPC to my PowerBook with MS at home and I use ActiveSync combined with GroupWise PDA Sync to sync with GroupWise on my Windows 2000 workstation at work. Besides keeping personal data separate from business data, I haven't really had any trouble. I might be able to help you all find a solution to the Sync to Mac and 2000/XP problem but need to know more precisely what the problem is. Take Care, -Rockey Mavrovich, Rick wrote: >Dear TDefriez@cs.com: > >I asked PocketMac a couple of weeks ago if I could do what you describe but they told me no. Can you describe how you set things up? I would like to do the same thing. My work computer runs windows 2000 and my home computer is a G4 with the latest version of OSX. I have the option of running either Entourage or the suite of MAC apps(iCal, adress book, etc) on my MAC. > >Cheers, > >Rick > >-----Original Message----- >From: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com >[mailto:missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com]On Behalf >Of TDefriez@cs.com >Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 5:13 PM >To: "The Missing Sync (Mac/Pocket PC)" >Subject: Re: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] RE: Sync to Mac and XP? > > >Talking of which, any update on the beta yet, you know the one with reported support for Entourage? > >I (due to recent changes at work) need to sync both XP and Mac, luckly due to the lack of a Entourage conduit for Missing Sync I'm using, dare I say, PocketMac and it does not have this issue (it has plenty of other but at least it work with Entourage on Mac an