[missing-sync-winmobile-talk] Windows Mobile 5

Neto neto at bullet.com.br
Fri Dec 9 11:53:09 PST 2005 

I also think that (in the first place) it is an Apple's huge mistake not to
provide their costumers with Pocket PC compatibility. It is not acceptable
that "the most advanced operating system" simply ignores some PDA and
certain phones synchronization like they never existed (PocketPCs and Nextel
for example). I'm a long time Apple customer, back to the days of Apple II,
and this is one of it's typical mistakes. Seems that they weren't able to
recover from the Newton fiasco (I have one and it is still great), but when
the Palm came up, Apple simply ignored the evidence that customers wants
smaller devices. Apple always made a lousy job listening to their costumers.
That's why we don't have iPhones, iTablets or iPalms. The good news, is they
have better ideas than those we may had asked for. Like iPods and OSX ;)

On the other hand, MarkeSpace does not have any obligation to come up with
a product compatible with WM5. But it is our best bet as their costumers.
And it is easier to get something good from them. Some of us, spent time
(voluntary, of course) helping to develop their products, so it is not their
obligation, but it would be nice to have an idea of what we can expect. I
have a Jasjar, and I thought it would be logical to expect MSWM 5
compatibility after a couple of months after WM5 release..., after all it is
the current version...but after almost 6 months we have no clue of what to
expect. I also understand that this is an strategic information. They are
running against Pocket Mac, and it is not nice to give away such info to
competitors.

Of course if we are unhappy with Apple we can buy PCs. Of course if we are
unhappy with MarkSpace we may try Pocket Mac. Or buy Palms, or whatever.
But as costumers, we may also ask MarkSpace.
By "bothering" them with questions, maybe different from Apple they will
understand what we expect. Or, like Apple, they will come up with something
even better.

Just my two cents...

Neto





 are very common devices to be ignored


On 09/12/05 5:02 PM, "Jason" :

> Ray and Peter, thanks for sticking up for Mark Space, I have been
> meaning to do this weeks ago.  I too am tired of seeing everyone
> complain about a date not being set. Thanks Mark Space for all of the
> hard work we know that you are doing in order to bring WM5 support to
> your product.  Can't wait to try it out.
> 
> Jason
> 
> On Dec 9, 2005, at 12:07 PM, Ray Towry wrote:
> 
>> Ditto...
>> 
>> Being a new Apple user, a convert from Windows since May, I am
>> convinced that Apple is a superior product.  But, Apple needs to do
>> more to integrate with Windows products, period (and Virtual
>> windows is not the answer).  Had Apple handled thing differently in
>> the 80's, they would be the dominant platform.  But they were
>> stubborn then as well.  Some quote about not understanding history
>> means your bound to repeat it is coming to mind...
>> 
>> Ray
>> 
>> 
>> On Dec 9, 2005, at 9:37 AM, Peter Kim wrote:
>> 
>> Guys, stop giving Mark Space such a hard time. I'm sure they're
>> working as hard as they can on getting WM5 support done. Don't act as
>> if Mark Space is somehow obligated to make your WM5 device work with
>> your Mac; this is one of the consequences of being a Mac user. If you
>> REALLY want a PDA that works with the Mac, you should have gotten a
>> Palm or a WM2003 device.
>> 
>> If anything, the party that deserves most of the blame is Apple. They
>> could easily incorporate WM5 support into iSync or make some Mark
>> Space employees very happy by buying them out for a few million
>> dollars, but Jobs' notorious stubbornness is getting in the way of
>> doing something that would actually benefit his customers.
>> 
>> Peter
>> 
>> On 12/9/05, Chris Bailey <dailybailey at mac.com> wrote:
>>>> That is an answer, granted it may not be the answer that you
>>>> desire but it
>>>> is an answer.
>>> 
>>> No, it's not. It's *lack of an answer*. Ever hear the term
>>> "vaporware"?
>>> 
>>> Look, Apple is projecting new Intel-based hardware Macs mid-2006.
>>> Webroot is
>>> saying they'll have a bug fix for the new SpySweeper Enterprise
>>> Edition
>>> sometime next week. These are called "projections". I don't expect
>>> them to
>>> stick to the timetable like glue. Webroot could run into a problem
>>> and delay
>>> the release another couple of weeks to fix it... Apple could have
>>> Intel
>>> hardware ready to roll by March -- or maybe it ends up being
>>> September...
>>> it's flexible because they're *estimates*.
>>> 
>>> I just looked up a press release -- Microsoft released WM5 to
>>> manufacturers
>>> on May 10. So it's been out for six months at this point. If not
>>> enough time
>>> for a WM5-compatible release, it's certainly been long enough for a
>>> *projection* of a release date.
>>> 
>>> Silence -- on the other hand -- is not an acceptable substitute.
>>> 
>>> 
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>> 
>> --
>> peter s. kim
>> http://peterskim.org/blog
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