[missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Category Translation

Ashwin Ram ashwinsub at ashwinram.org
Mon Nov 3 20:39:36 PST 2003 

The PPC only has "global" categories, i.e., the same categories are  
used for calendar, address book, documents, etc. This is a limitation  
of Pocket Windows. (It's either a bug or a feature, your call :-)

The Mac does not have categories per se. It has multiple calendars  
(which could be used like categories) and it has address book groups  
(which could be used like categories). But no categories. This is a  
limitation of OS X. (This appears to be deliberate, because earlier  
versions did have categories. Not sure why they took them away.)

Anyway, given these (differing) limitations, it's not clear not to map  
one to the other.

Personally, I'd be happy with a "working solution" in which address  
book groups AND calendar names were mapped to PPC categories. For  
example, an address book group called A might map to a category called  
group_A on the PPC, and a calendar called B might map to cal_B on the  
PPC. (Or some such naming convention.)

Or we could all write to Microsoft and tell them to disengage  
categories from different applications, and/or to Apple to tell them to  
introduce the notion of categories to OS X. No bets on which one is  
likely to be more responsive :-)

On Monday, November 3, 2003, at 03:36  PM, Paul Charlesworth wrote:

> I think there is another problem with the PPC2003. When you add  
> categories on the handheld calendar, they are combined with the  
> categories from the contacts calendar and there seems to be no way to  
> separate them. These are then added to the Apple address book. So, it  
> seems that part of what the developers are trying to avoid is already  
> done courtesy of Bill and his Mob.
>
> Maybe there is some way to manually map the categories in the conduit.  
> We can already select which are to be synced and what the handheld  
> created is called.
>
> Anyway, now I know, I'll stop worrying about it and wait to see what  
> the future brings.
>
> Paul
>
> On Nov 03, 2003, at 3:08 PM, Craig Bradley wrote:
>
>> Good reasons to be sure, but I just wish it were an option, even  
>> knowing that I would be limited to one category per item and that it  
>> wouldn't be a perfect solution. I enter the bulk of my appointments  
>> on the handheld, and having to go into iCal and reassign them to  
>> calendars is a huge pain. I'm not questioning the developers'  
>> reasoning, though, all of the issues below are real.
>>
>> On Nov 3, 2003, at 10:51 AM, Ken Freeman wrote:
>>
>>> Taken from page 8 of the Missing Sync PPC Manual.pdf.
>>>
>>> NOTE: At this time Missing Sync does NOT map the categories of  
>>> handheld events with iCal calendar names. While this
>>> may change in a future release, we chose NOT to map the categories  
>>> because iCal does not have a true category field
>>> and mapping the calendar name as a handheld shared category means  
>>> that the Address Book, To Do and other Pocket
>>> PC apps would include the same iCal names as categories that often  
>>> wouldn’t make sense (e.g. Holidays). A bigger
>>> issue is that the handheld allows you to mark multiple categories,  
>>> but does NOT allow you to mark a primary category. In
>>> this case, there was not a clear choice as to which iCal calendar  
>>> the event should belong to (e.g. should the same event
>>> be added to multiple iCal calendars, or just the first matching  
>>> alphabetically?)
>>>
>>> Ken
>>>
>>> On Nov 1, 2003, at 7:43 AM, Paul Charlesworth wrote:
>>>
>>>> I was wondering if someone could comment on the transfer of  
>>>> categories.  I noticed that Missing Sync only transfers the  
>>>> contacts/Address book categories and not the iCal categories.  More  
>>>> specifically, it applies the Address book categories to iCal.
>>>>
>>>> In order for things to work correctly, do I need to have a unified  
>>>> set of categories across iCal and Address book or is there some way  
>>>> of having unique categories for the contacts and for the datebook?  
>>>> Which is what I would prefer.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Paul
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 31, 2003, at 10:16 PM, Carlos Consuegra wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I had the same problem with panther.
>>>>> What i did was:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1.- Clean Panther Install
>>>>> 2.- Missing Sync 1.0.2 Install
>>>>> 3.- Activate Internet Sharing
>>>>> 4.-Activate Personal File Sharing
>>>>> 5.-Configure Firewall Ports
>>>>>
>>>>> And it got back to normal. I used to have the same problems.  
>>>>> Connection dropped, timed out, pocket pc hangs, missing sync  
>>>>> crashed, etc.
>>>>> I hope this helps a bit.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 31, 2003, at 7:42 PM, Ken Freeman wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Choose View Log from the Missing Sync for Pocket PC Window menu.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ken
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Oct 31, 2003, at 2:04 PM, Todd McQuiston wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Where is the log file, once it's full o' data?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Todd
>>>>>>> On Oct 31, 2003, at 4:41 PM, Ken Freeman wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Have you tried re-installing the Missing Sync? In our testing  
>>>>>>>> we have not had any problems using the Missing Sync on Panther,  
>>>>>>>> yet there have been some report to this list that they can  
>>>>>>>> connect and then the connection drops off. We are looking into  
>>>>>>>> why that is the case.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Try re-installing. Also turn on Verbose Logging in the Missing  
>>>>>>>> Sync prefs. If that does not improve you situation please send  
>>>>>>>> a copy of your Missing Sync log file and a copy of your Apple  
>>>>>>>> System Profile report to support at markspace.com.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ken
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Oct 31, 2003, at 5:51 AM, Anders Arhammar wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Im really looking forward to when my Panther can interact with  
>>>>>>>>> missing sync.
>>>>>>>>> Now it does not find my Ipaq, not through the cradle and not  
>>>>>>>>> thorugh bluetooth.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> anders
>>>>>>>>>
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