From zerosix at mac.com Tue Jun 3 12:49:20 2003 From: zerosix at mac.com (Tyler) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:16 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] pre-pay? Message-ID: <5263907A-95E3-11D7-854C-0003938DB6A6@mac.com> I am very interested in the early adopters program I read about on your page... Once a price is finalized for this gem, can I pre-pay for mine? I am so sick of using VPC [and Pocketmac was the biggest waste of money ever] that I am not even going to sync anything until this comes out. This will support the Toshiba 2032 though, right? From brian_hall at markspace.com Tue Jun 3 11:03:46 2003 From: brian_hall at markspace.com (Brian Hall) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] pre-pay? In-Reply-To: <5263907A-95E3-11D7-854C-0003938DB6A6@mac.com> References: <5263907A-95E3-11D7-854C-0003938DB6A6@mac.com> Message-ID: >I am very interested in the early adopters program I read about on your >page... Once a price is finalized for this gem, can I pre-pay for mine? When the early adopter version is ready to go, you'll be able to purchase and download it straight away. > I am so sick of using VPC [and Pocketmac was the biggest waste of >money ever] that I am not even going to sync anything until this comes >out. > >This will support the Toshiba 2032 though, right? It should work with any device that does ActiveSync over USB. We have a range of devices here at Mark/Space, but not one of every device ever made ;-) We'll be working on a supported devices list in time for the early adopter release, and will add to it as we acquire, or confirm via testers/customers, that devices work with the software. Right now we have various iPaq, Toshiba, ViewSonic, and SmartPhone (Orange SPV) devices in-house. Brian -- _____________________________________________________________________ Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 540 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 Los Gatos, CA 95030 From adam at thetechpub.com Tue Jun 3 14:15:37 2003 From: adam at thetechpub.com (Adam) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] pre-pay? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Any ETA on the software yet??? Adam On Tuesday, June 3, 2003, at 01:03 PM, Brian Hall wrote: >> I am very interested in the early adopters program I read about on >> your >> page... Once a price is finalized for this gem, can I pre-pay for >> mine? > > When the early adopter version is ready to go, you'll be able to > purchase > and download it straight away. > >> I am so sick of using VPC [and Pocketmac was the biggest waste of >> money ever] that I am not even going to sync anything until this comes >> out. >> >> This will support the Toshiba 2032 though, right? > > It should work with any device that does ActiveSync over USB. We have a > range of devices here at Mark/Space, but not one of every device ever > made > ;-) > > We'll be working on a supported devices list in time for the early > adopter > release, and will add to it as we acquire, or confirm via > testers/customers, that devices work with the software. > > Right now we have various iPaq, Toshiba, ViewSonic, and SmartPhone > (Orange > SPV) devices in-house. > > Brian > > -- > _____________________________________________________________________ > Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 > 540 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 > Los Gatos, CA 95030 > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > From brian_hall at markspace.com Tue Jun 3 11:21:06 2003 From: brian_hall at markspace.com (Brian Hall) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] [PR] Missing Sync for Pocket PC to Include First 3rd Party iSync Conduits Message-ID: Missing Sync for Pocket PC to Include the First Third Party iSync Conduits for iCal(tm) and Mac OS X(R) Address Book Pocket PC users can synchronize with iCal and Address Book, as well as transfer music and photos from iTunes(R) and iPhoto(tm) June 3, 2003 - Los Gatos, California - Mark/Space, Inc., makers of the award winning Missing Sync software, announces the first iSync conduit offering support for iCal and Address Book synchronization in the upcoming release of Missing Sync for Pocket PC. Missing Sync for Pocket PC enables Mac users to connect and synchronize information between a Pocket PC handheld and a Mac running Mac OS X and iSync version 1.1. Missing Sync for Pocket PC is the only product that integrates your Pocket PC handheld with iTunes and iPhoto, as well as synchronizes calendar items, to do items and contacts with the iCal and Address Book applications. From within iTunes your handheld and memory cards show up as an MP3 player, where you can add and remove audio files by simply dragging and dropping. From within iPhoto you can export and resize photos for optimal viewing on a Pocket PC handheld. "Mark/Space's expertise with iSync conduits now allows Pocket PC users the choice to use a Mac and synchronize their data with iCal and the Mac OS X Address Book." said Brian Hall, President/CEO of Mark/Space, Inc., "The Mac savvy method of mounting the Pocket PC handheld on the desktop and integration with iTunes and iPhoto provide a level of multimedia integration not even available with ActiveSync(R) on a Windows PC." Missing Sync for Pocket PC Features include: * iCal Synchronization - Stay organized by synchronizing your calendar and to do/task items. Two way synchronization ensures no matter where you make changes you'll have the latest data on both your Mac and Pocket PC handheld * Address Book Synchronization - Quickly and easily exchange contacts between your Mac OS X Address Book and your Pocket PC handheld * iTunes support - Manage your mood by easily moving music and audio files back and forth from your Mac and Pocket PC handheld * iPhoto support - Show off your favorite pictures on the go, by easily moving pictures to and from your handheld and iPhoto * Desktop Mounting - Mac users can mount their Pocket PC internal memory and expansion card as a volume on the Mac desktop to transfer, delete or install files * Install Pocket PC applications - Drag and drop CAB files to install them onto your handheld * Shared Internet Access - Connect your Pocket PC handheld to the web through your Mac's Internet connection * Backup and restore of handheld data - Have confidence that your data is backed up and can easily be restored if your device is lost or destroyed Product Requirements Missing Sync for Pocket PC requires Mac OS X version 10.2 or higher and a compatible Pocket PC handheld running Pocket PC 2002 or higher connecting via a USB cradle/cable. To help support as many different Pocket PC handheld models as possible we encourage users of different Pocket PC devices to participate in the online survey at . Product Availability An "Early Adopter" release is planned for release by this July's Macworld Creative Pro Expo & Conference in New York. Those interested in being notified when the Early Adopter release is available can join the Missing Sync for Pocket PC mailing list by visiting . Mark/Space, Inc. Founded October 1990, Mark/Space focuses on mobile and wireless software and solutions for Palm OS, Mac OS, and Pocket PC. Products include The Missing Sync for Sony CLIE, Missing Sync for Samsung, Missing Sync for Palm OS, Missing Sync for Pocket PC, Mark/Space Mobile Office and Online. For more information on Mark/Space, Inc., please visit www.markspace.com Contact Information: info@markspace.com www.markspace.com 408-293-7299 voice mail 408-293-7298 fax --- Mark/Space, The Missing Sync, DataCord, PageNOW!, Online and their logos are trademarks of Mark/Space, Inc. Mac OS, iPhoto, iTunes, iSync and iCal are trademarks of Apple Computer, Inc. All other product and brand names may be trademarks or registered trademarks of their respective owners. -- _____________________________________________________________________ Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 540 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 Los Gatos, CA 95030 From brian_hall at markspace.com Tue Jun 3 11:23:43 2003 From: brian_hall at markspace.com (Brian Hall) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] pre-pay? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >Any ETA on the software yet??? The Early Adopter version will be out *before* Macworld NY next month. (This is in the release and now at the web site). Brian -- _____________________________________________________________________ Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 540 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 Los Gatos, CA 95030 From josecruz at mac.com Tue Jun 3 15:41:08 2003 From: josecruz at mac.com (Jose Cruz) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] pre-pay? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Next question. Will there be any support for mail synchronization within Entourage or Mail? On 6/3/03 1:23 PM, "Brian Hall" wrote: >> Any ETA on the software yet??? > > The Early Adopter version will be out *before* Macworld NY next month. > (This is in the release and now at the web site). > > Brian From brian_hall at markspace.com Tue Jun 3 13:02:27 2003 From: brian_hall at markspace.com (Brian Hall) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] pre-pay? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >Next question. Will there be any support for mail synchronization within >Entourage or Mail? Not as part of 1.0. Mail sync, Notes sync and Entourage support are the 3 most frequent requests that won't be addressed in 1.0. (And which are obvious prime candidates for post 1.0 releases). Brian -- _____________________________________________________________________ Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 540 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 Los Gatos, CA 95030 From ctheodo8 at otenet.gr Tue Jun 3 23:17:27 2003 From: ctheodo8 at otenet.gr (Constantine Theodossiou) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] pre-pay? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Is O2 XDA supported? Many thanks Constantine Brian Hall3/6/03 8:02 pmbrian_hall@markspace.com >> Next question. Will there be any support for mail synchronization within >> Entourage or Mail? > > Not as part of 1.0. > > Mail sync, Notes sync and Entourage support are the 3 most frequent > requests that won't be addressed in 1.0. (And which are obvious prime > candidates for post 1.0 releases). > > Brian From pws2000 at gmx.net Tue Jun 3 22:56:15 2003 From: pws2000 at gmx.net (pws2000@gmx.net) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] pre-pay? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <6F03F271-95FD-11D7-9371-000A27E326C6@gmx.net> On Dienstag, Juni 3, 2003, at 09:02 pm, Brian Hall wrote: > Not as part of 1.0. > > Mail sync, Notes sync and Entourage support are the 3 most frequent > requests that won't be addressed in 1.0. (And which are obvious prime > candidates for post 1.0 releases). > > Brian > > > > will those features be part of an early adopters' release (even if furnished later on)? Best Regards, Peter P.S.: I am really looking forward to being able to sync my iPaq 3630 on MacOS X. From jpannen at bluewin.ch Tue Jun 3 23:45:26 2003 From: jpannen at bluewin.ch (Jean-Pierre Annen) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Pocket PC 2000 Message-ID: Will missing sync pochet work with Pocket PC 2000? Many Thanks. From brian_hall at markspace.com Tue Jun 3 14:55:04 2003 From: brian_hall at markspace.com (Brian Hall) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] pre-pay? In-Reply-To: <6F03F271-95FD-11D7-9371-000A27E326C6@gmx.net> References: <6F03F271-95FD-11D7-9371-000A27E326C6@gmx.net> Message-ID: >> Mail sync, Notes sync and Entourage support are the 3 most frequent >> requests that won't be addressed in 1.0. (And which are obvious prime >> candidates for post 1.0 releases). >> >> Brian >> >> >> >> > >will those features be part of an early adopters' release (even if >furnished later on)? The early adopter release comes first, then the 1.0 "final". So, no, Entourage and Mail support will not be in the early adopter release. After the 1.0 final, we will evaluate which features to look at adding next. -- _____________________________________________________________________ Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 540 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 Los Gatos, CA 95030 From brian_hall at markspace.com Tue Jun 3 14:55:52 2003 From: brian_hall at markspace.com (Brian Hall) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Pocket PC 2000 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >Will missing sync pochet work with Pocket PC 2000? If it does ActiveSync over USB, it should work. We plan to have a full list of supported/tested devices as soon as the product goes on sale, and will add to it/update it as we add/test devices. -- _____________________________________________________________________ Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 540 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 Los Gatos, CA 95030 From adam at thetechpub.com Tue Jun 3 18:00:26 2003 From: adam at thetechpub.com (Adam) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Pocket PC 2000 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <666A3EE8-9606-11D7-B2E8-0003938029E8@thetechpub.com> From the more info part of the site... "Missing Sync for Pocket PC requires Mac OS X version 10.2 or higher and a compatible Pocket PC handheld running Pocket PC 2002 or higher connecting via a USB cradle/cable. " Looks like they are not going to be supporting (at least not with the initial release) pocket pc 2000... Although, I do wonder if it will still work with some devices... How different can the two versions be? Adam On Tuesday, June 3, 2003, at 04:45 PM, Jean-Pierre Annen wrote: > Will missing sync pochet work with Pocket PC 2000? > Many Thanks. > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > From bbarbot at threespot.com Tue Jun 3 18:02:31 2003 From: bbarbot at threespot.com (bbarbot) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] automated response Message-ID: <10306031702.AA01178@threespot.com> Hello: I am on vacation from Friday, May 30, through Monday, June 9. I will be back in the office on Tuesday, June 10th. I will reply to your message as soon as possible upon my return, as I will not be checking email. Please contact dbelman@threespot.com for non-technical urgent matters. Thanks, Bill Barbot From ericd at ericd.net Tue Jun 3 18:17:14 2003 From: ericd at ericd.net (eric e. dolecki [ericd.net]) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Q: beta Message-ID: Any idea when there may be a beta available? +-- e.d. --+ From fmcpherson at mac.com Tue Jun 3 18:17:17 2003 From: fmcpherson at mac.com (Frank McPherson) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Pocket PC 2000 In-Reply-To: <666A3EE8-9606-11D7-B2E8-0003938029E8@thetechpub.com> Message-ID: Assuming that Missing Sync will communicate with the Pocket PC part of ActiveSync, there are differences between that software on PPC 2000 and 2002. On Tuesday, June 3, 2003, at 05:00 PM, Adam wrote: > From the more info part of the site... > > "Missing Sync for Pocket PC requires Mac OS X version 10.2 or higher > and a compatible Pocket PC handheld running Pocket PC 2002 or higher > connecting via a USB cradle/cable. " > > Looks like they are not going to be supporting (at least not with the > initial release) pocket pc 2000... Although, I do wonder if it will > still work with some devices... How different can the two versions be? > > Adam > > On Tuesday, June 3, 2003, at 04:45 PM, Jean-Pierre Annen wrote: > >> Will missing sync pochet work with Pocket PC 2000? >> Many Thanks. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com >> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can >> be found at: >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk >> > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk From brian_hall at markspace.com Tue Jun 3 15:43:42 2003 From: brian_hall at markspace.com (Brian Hall) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: Missing Sync for Pocket PC (was Re: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Q: beta) Message-ID: >Any idea when there may be a beta available? For all announced information, please see http://www.markspace.com/pocketpc.html Frquently Asked Questions: Q: When will it be released? A: We will have an "Early Adopter" version available for sale on or before Macworld New York this July. Q: What will be included? A: Desktop mounting, iTunes and iPhoto Plugins, iSync conduits for iCal (datebook and to do), Address.app, backup, restore and install tools. Q: Are you accepting beta testers? A: Not at this time. Q: Will you support Entourage? A: It will not be part of the 1.0 release. The 1.0 release will focus on the iApps (iCal, Address.app, iTunes, iPhoto). We plan to address Entourage (and other popular desktop applications) in the future. Thank you for your interest! -- _____________________________________________________________________ Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 540 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 Los Gatos, CA 95030 From adam at thetechpub.com Tue Jun 3 19:06:04 2003 From: adam at thetechpub.com (Adam) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] pre-pay? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <91DE4582-960F-11D7-ADD2-0003938029E8@thetechpub.com> Are you guys planning on making the addition of Mail, etc a free update to the people who purchase the version 1.0? Also, will the major revisions be new initial numbers?? Such as 1.0 with updates to 1.x, but 2.0 will be a "pay for" update... Just wondering, since I'll probably be wanting the 1.0 anyway, but it would be nice to get the support of Mail and such later without paying. Adam On Tuesday, June 3, 2003, at 04:55 PM, Brian Hall wrote: >>> Mail sync, Notes sync and Entourage support are the 3 most frequent >>> requests that won't be addressed in 1.0. (And which are obvious prime >>> candidates for post 1.0 releases). >>> >>> Brian >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> will those features be part of an early adopters' release (even if >> furnished later on)? > > The early adopter release comes first, then the 1.0 "final". > > So, no, Entourage and Mail support will not be in the early adopter > release. > > After the 1.0 final, we will evaluate which features to look at adding > next. > > -- > _____________________________________________________________________ > Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 > 540 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 > Los Gatos, CA 95030 > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > From mrosedale at earthlink.net Tue Jun 3 23:32:15 2003 From: mrosedale at earthlink.net (Mike Rosedale) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Early Adapter Program Message-ID: Would like to sign up for the Early Adopters program. I have a Ipaq with blue tooth. Thanks, Mike Rosedale mrosedale@earthlink.net From martijn at bluepepper.nl Wed Jun 4 09:01:05 2003 From: martijn at bluepepper.nl (Martijn Geurts) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] pre-pay? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 03-06-2003 19:23, "Brian Hall" wrote: > The Early Adopter version will be out *before* Macworld NY next month. > (This is in the release and now at the web site). > > Brian Exciting! I'm looking forward to try the Early Adopter version! Martijn Geurts BluePepper From martyn at theCommunications.biz Wed Jun 4 09:25:29 2003 From: martyn at theCommunications.biz (Martyn Barr) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] When is a beta tester not a beta tester? Message-ID: Great to hear that Missing Sync Pocket PC is nearing completion, but what is the difference between an early adopter and a beta tester? I'd be very cautious of using a new product that might screw up my address and calendar data (like PocketMac did!). Martyn Barr From annon970 at earthlink.net Wed Jun 4 03:52:22 2003 From: annon970 at earthlink.net (Unknown) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Word and Excel synchronization Message-ID: <3CF9E1AE-9672-11D7-8DA5-003065CCD2FA@earthlink.net> I noticed that the one way the pocketmac solution seemed better than your otherwise superior solution is through Word and Excel synchronization. Are you planning to add that feature to your program. Thanks, From os3476 at ithink.ch Wed Jun 4 13:07:46 2003 From: os3476 at ithink.ch (Olivier Scherler) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Word and Excel synchronization In-Reply-To: <3CF9E1AE-9672-11D7-8DA5-003065CCD2FA@earthlink.net> Message-ID: > I noticed that the one way the pocketmac solution seemed better than > your otherwise superior solution is through Word and Excel > synchronization. Are you planning to add that feature to your program. Having used PocketMac, I can make a small correction: The one way PocketMac seems better than the Missing Sync is through *the advertising* of Word and Excel synchronization. PocketMac does not do Word and Excel synchronization. It only does - (slowly) copy of PocketWord and PocketExcel files (i.e. backup, not sync) - display them on screen, assuming they only contain 7bit characters (it screws up accents like ?) - (manually) save unaccented PocketWord files to RTF - PocketExcel cannot be saved Of course on the fly (optional, upon copy between the PPC and the Mac, as ActiveSync) or batch (drag a bunch of files or folders on a conversion tool) conversion of PocketXyz files is a feature I would love to see in the Missing Sync. Olivier Scherler From jwick at meccorp.mec.edu Wed Jun 4 07:15:38 2003 From: jwick at meccorp.mec.edu (Jim Wick) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Early Adopter Version Message-ID: I just hope that this does not turn out like PocketMac's where you had to spend $64 basically to be a beta tester. Why not release a beta version that is set to expire in 30 days. I am very hesitant to shell out even more money for a product that I have no idea if it works or not. I hope MarkSpace can learn from PocketMac's mistakes and not make the same ones over again. From thehan at mac.com Wed Jun 4 18:55:40 2003 From: thehan at mac.com (Han Rabinovitz) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Wnat it very much!! Message-ID: <9C0AF9BA-969C-11D7-8AE6-000A959D02E4@mac.com> I would like to be part of the early adopters / beta testers / lab rabbits of Mark - as long as it take me further from launching Virtual PC every time I need to sync : - ( How do I register to the plan - are we really going to spend money on that???? I would love to pay when a final version is released...but not in my rabbit phase! From carroll.236 at osu.edu Wed Jun 4 13:56:42 2003 From: carroll.236 at osu.edu (Dave Carroll) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] What about Win CE 3.0 support? Message-ID: I have an iPaq 3670 running WinCE 3.0. I do not own a PC, and the PC's I have access to at school do not allow me to load software on them, so I cannot upload a newer OS on the iPaq via the active sync software that came with the iPaq. Due to technical glitches, my copy of Virtual PC(95) is not currently working. As I understand it, your product will require PocketPc2002 to work is that correct? In which case it is no good to me. There is one advantage to the comnpetitor's product in that it does currently work(sort of) with WinCE 3.0. Bummer..I was looking forward to checking out your product. From dnanian at shirt-pocket.com Wed Jun 4 14:14:54 2003 From: dnanian at shirt-pocket.com (Dave Nanian) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Looking forward to it. Message-ID: <0F62F996-96B0-11D7-8CF8-000393D74812@shirt-pocket.com> I'm delighted to see that someone is taking up this particular task. While I've purchased both the regular and pro editions of PocketMac, I've been exceptionally disappointed in it. Not only has it taken forever to get to its current point, but the current point is beyond disappointing. Synchronization, when connection doesn't cause a kernel panic, rarely works properly. Each attempt takes many minutes to complete, and conflicts are resolved poorly. It's bad enough that, despite the money and time I've put into the product, I've abandoned it. I sincerely hope that your product works as well as your Missing Sync for Sony (and others) do: as a paying customer, I look forward to sending you some more of my hard earned cash, in exchange for your successful engineering efforts! -- Dave Nanian From brian_hall at markspace.com Wed Jun 4 11:17:31 2003 From: brian_hall at markspace.com (Brian Hall) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Wnat it very much!! In-Reply-To: <9C0AF9BA-969C-11D7-8AE6-000A959D02E4@mac.com> References: <9C0AF9BA-969C-11D7-8AE6-000A959D02E4@mac.com> Message-ID: >I would like to be part of the early adopters / beta testers / lab >rabbits of Mark - as long as it take me further from launching Virtual >PC every time I need to sync : - ( >How do I register to the plan - are we really going to spend money on >that???? >I would love to pay when a final version is released...but not in my >rabbit phase! For those who prefer to wait for the final release, that is certainly an option. I'm sure you'll be able to base your decision on what you read about on this list (there seem to be no lack of opinions!) as to when you feel the product is mature enough. Brian -- _____________________________________________________________________ Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 540 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 Los Gatos, CA 95030 From brian_hall at markspace.com Wed Jun 4 11:25:34 2003 From: brian_hall at markspace.com (Brian Hall) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] What about Win CE 3.0 support? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 12:56 PM -0400 6/4/03, Dave Carroll wrote: >As I understand it, your product will require PocketPc2002 to work is that >correct? In which case it is no good to me. There is one advantage to the >comnpetitor's product in that it does currently work(sort of) with WinCE >3.0. > >Bummer..I was looking forward to checking out your product. We are researching this issue currently (PPC 2000 and WinCE 3.0). Could you recommend a device currently available in stores that runs one of these older variants that we could pick up and try? Brian -- _____________________________________________________________________ Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 540 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 Los Gatos, CA 95030 From auribe14 at mac.com Wed Jun 4 13:29:24 2003 From: auribe14 at mac.com (Aaron W Uribe) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Wnat it very much!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: on 6/4/03 12:17, Brian Hall at brian_hall@markspace.com wrote: >> I would like to be part of the early adopters / beta testers / lab >> rabbits of Mark - as long as it take me further from launching Virtual >> PC every time I need to sync : - ( >> How do I register to the plan - are we really going to spend money on >> that???? >> I would love to pay when a final version is released...but not in my >> rabbit phase! > > For those who prefer to wait for the final release, that is certainly an > option. I'm sure you'll be able to base your decision on what you read > about on this list (there seem to be no lack of opinions!) as to when you > feel the product is mature enough. > > Brian As I understand it, though, people who purchase the Early Adopter version (at a reduced price) will get a FREE copy of the final version. Please confirm. Thank you, Aaron Uribe From brian_hall at markspace.com Wed Jun 4 11:48:28 2003 From: brian_hall at markspace.com (Brian Hall) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Wnat it very much!! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >As I understand it, though, people who purchase the Early Adopter version >(at a reduced price) will get a FREE copy of the final version. Please >confirm. That is correct. That is one of the benefits in getting it early (1: You can start working with it sooner, 2: You'll save some money over waiting for the final 1.0 release). Brian -- _____________________________________________________________________ Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 540 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 Los Gatos, CA 95030 From adam at thetechpub.com Wed Jun 4 15:03:06 2003 From: adam at thetechpub.com (Adam) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Wnat it very much!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: That's a good enough reason for me to give it a twirl early... Especially if it supports the iPaq 1910 in the early release (I assume it does since that's a model you've had, yes?). I can wait for the additional functionality to arrive with a free (?) update later... Not sure how much I would use for the Mail sync, but being able to move word and excel files to the pda would be nice, from my Mac of course. Adam On Wednesday, June 4, 2003, at 01:48 PM, Brian Hall wrote: >> As I understand it, though, people who purchase the Early Adopter >> version >> (at a reduced price) will get a FREE copy of the final version. >> Please >> confirm. > > That is correct. That is one of the benefits in getting it early (1: > You > can start working with it sooner, 2: You'll save some money over > waiting > for the final 1.0 release). > > Brian > > -- > _____________________________________________________________________ > Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 > 540 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 > Los Gatos, CA 95030 > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > From brian_hall at markspace.com Wed Jun 4 12:43:55 2003 From: brian_hall at markspace.com (Brian Hall) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Wnat it very much!! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >That's a good enough reason for me to give it a twirl early... >Especially if it supports the iPaq 1910 in the early release (I assume >it does since that's a model you've had, yes?). Yes, that is the model I personally use. We also have 3 other various models of iPaq amongst us. > I can wait for the >additional functionality to arrive with a free (?) update later... 1.0 will be a free upgrade for early adopter customers. After that, it is *usually* the case that minor revs are free (ie, 1.0 to 1.1, 1.2, etc) and that major upgrades (about once every 9-18 months) are pay-for (Missing Sync for CLIE 2.x to 3.x is $14.95 as an example, and the 2.x to 3.x transition was when we added support for OS X). Brian -- _____________________________________________________________________ Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 540 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 Los Gatos, CA 95030 From rscorer at mac.com Wed Jun 4 18:38:59 2003 From: rscorer at mac.com (Richard Scorer) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Wnat it very much!! References: Message-ID: <008301c32afa$e02ea610$4acd399d@northamerica.corp.microsoft.com> Cool. Where do I send the check? :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Hall" To: "The Missing Sync (Mac/Pocket PC)" Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 10:48 AM Subject: Re: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Wnat it very much!! > >As I understand it, though, people who purchase the Early Adopter version > >(at a reduced price) will get a FREE copy of the final version. Please > >confirm. > > That is correct. That is one of the benefits in getting it early (1: You > can start working with it sooner, 2: You'll save some money over waiting > for the final 1.0 release). > > Brian > > -- > _____________________________________________________________________ > Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 > 540 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 > Los Gatos, CA 95030 > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > From thehan at mac.com Thu Jun 5 11:13:20 2003 From: thehan at mac.com (Han Rabinovitz) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Wnat it very much!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <2FBE9D3C-9725-11D7-AE0D-000A959D02E4@mac.com> How do we join the early plan? Han On Wednesday, Jun 4, 2003, at 20:48 Asia/Jerusalem, Brian Hall wrote: >> As I understand it, though, people who purchase the Early Adopter >> version >> (at a reduced price) will get a FREE copy of the final version. >> Please >> confirm. > > That is correct. That is one of the benefits in getting it early (1: > You > can start working with it sooner, 2: You'll save some money over > waiting > for the final 1.0 release). > > Brian > > -- > _____________________________________________________________________ > Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 > 540 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 > Los Gatos, CA 95030 > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > Yours Han Rabinovitz From mrosedale at earthlink.net Thu Jun 5 06:47:27 2003 From: mrosedale at earthlink.net (Mike Rosedale) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Beta Ipaq for Mac Message-ID: I would love to me in the early adopters program. Lost in a no sync world with the best machine on the planet is no fun. Also, working for Motorola Broadband would be a showcase for your new product. Hoping I make it in the (EAP) Early Adopters Program. Mike Rosedale R. Sales Mgr. Motorola, Inc Canopy Broadband Division Schaumburg,IL Ipaq 3870 w/ Bluetooth OSX 10.2.6 Build 6l60 "17" Powerbook From jerib at lexusofaustin.com Thu Jun 5 09:36:16 2003 From: jerib at lexusofaustin.com (jerib) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] disappointment Message-ID: I've been a member of this list for several months now under a different email address that I cannot use on my work LAN (that's the reason for this new one). Anyway, in all that time I've been under the impression that Missing-Sync was for OS X, period. Now it comes to light we must have OS X 10.2 or higher. Anything for those of us who have no use for the $130 worth of "enhancements" of 10.2? Jeri B From nafai at neondsl.com Thu Jun 5 09:37:39 2003 From: nafai at neondsl.com (Derek Jones) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] disappointment In-Reply-To: Message-ID: This is kind of off topic, but 10.2 is superior in every conceivable way to any < 10.2 installation. I held on to 10.1 for a loooong time on both my work and home computers, and the IS department updated my work computer off-hours. I was mad at first, but after a week of use, I upgraded at home as well. I should add that my home mac is a 500MHz G3 iMac, and 10.2 runs tremendously faster than 10.1.x -Derek On 6/5/03 8:36 AM, "jerib" wrote: > I've been a member of this list for several months now under a different > email address that I cannot use on my work LAN (that's the reason for this > new one). Anyway, in all that time I've been under the impression that > Missing-Sync was for OS X, period. Now it comes to light we must have OS X > 10.2 or higher. Anything for those of us who have no use for the $130 worth > of "enhancements" of 10.2? > > Jeri B > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > From ericd at ericd.net Thu Jun 5 10:41:58 2003 From: ericd at ericd.net (eric e. dolecki [ericd.net]) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] disappointment In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <7A59E99C-975B-11D7-A4AB-000393D8905E@ericd.net> Not to be a ninny - but I don't really see a reason not to upgrade to 10.2. It brought a whole lot more to the table. I don't know the ins and outs of Rendezvous... but I'm sure 10.2 enables many invisible things we don't know about that help these kinds of things work better. +-- e.d. --+ On Thursday, June 5, 2003, at 09:36 AM, jerib wrote: > I've been a member of this list for several months now under a > different > email address that I cannot use on my work LAN (that's the reason for > this > new one). Anyway, in all that time I've been under the impression that > Missing-Sync was for OS X, period. Now it comes to light we must have > OS X > 10.2 or higher. Anything for those of us who have no use for the $130 > worth > of "enhancements" of 10.2? > > Jeri B > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > From mark at marksrebnikarchitect.com Thu Jun 5 08:41:04 2003 From: mark at marksrebnikarchitect.com (Mark Srebnik) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] disappointment In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Jeri, Can't believe that anyone wouldn't want to use OSX 10.2 or higher! There are lots of improvements across the boards. Each update gets better and better, faster and more stable. Maybe you're not interested in some of the other enhancements but trust me you won't regret getting Jaquar.... I'm running OSX 10.2.6 now and have gone through all the updates with no problems either on my old beigeG3(w/G4) or my Gigabit Ethernet G4 Mac. Anyway, just my 2?.... Mark on 6/5/03 6:36 AM, jerib at jerib@lexusofaustin.com wrote: > I've been a member of this list for several months now under a different > email address that I cannot use on my work LAN (that's the reason for this > new one). Anyway, in all that time I've been under the impression that > Missing-Sync was for OS X, period. Now it comes to light we must have OS X > 10.2 or higher. Anything for those of us who have no use for the $130 worth > of "enhancements" of 10.2? > > Jeri B From brian_hall at markspace.com Thu Jun 5 08:47:56 2003 From: brian_hall at markspace.com (Brian Hall) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] disappointment In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > >I've been a member of this list for several months now under a different >email address that I cannot use on my work LAN (that's the reason for this >new one). Anyway, in all that time I've been under the impression that >Missing-Sync was for OS X, period. Now it comes to light we must have OS X >10.2 or higher. Anything for those of us who have no use for the $130 worth >of "enhancements" of 10.2? One of those "enhancements" is TCP related that we need. To require 10.1 would mean we would have to write that chunk of code we are using that is built in to 10.2. We think there are better things for us to be working on than something that already exists (in 10.2). Brian -- _____________________________________________________________________ Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 540 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 Los Gatos, CA 95030 From adam at thetechpub.com Thu Jun 5 11:57:17 2003 From: adam at thetechpub.com (Adam) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] disappointment In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I have 10.2.6 also and see no good reason to NOT update to 10.2... I purchased 10.1 before 10.2 and will probably get 10.3 when it becomes available in the coming months. Apple continues to improve the OS with each update, both minor and major. Adam On Thursday, June 5, 2003, at 10:41 AM, Mark Srebnik wrote: > Hi Jeri, > > Can't believe that anyone wouldn't want to use OSX 10.2 or higher! > > There are lots of improvements across the boards. Each update gets > better > and better, faster and more stable. Maybe you're not interested in > some of > the other enhancements but trust me you won't regret getting Jaquar.... > > I'm running OSX 10.2.6 now and have gone through all the updates with > no > problems either on my old beigeG3(w/G4) or my Gigabit Ethernet G4 Mac. > > Anyway, just my 2?.... > > Mark > > > on 6/5/03 6:36 AM, jerib at jerib@lexusofaustin.com wrote: > >> I've been a member of this list for several months now under a >> different >> email address that I cannot use on my work LAN (that's the reason for >> this >> new one). Anyway, in all that time I've been under the impression >> that >> Missing-Sync was for OS X, period. Now it comes to light we must >> have OS X >> 10.2 or higher. Anything for those of us who have no use for the >> $130 worth >> of "enhancements" of 10.2? >> >> Jeri B > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > From os3476 at ithink.ch Thu Jun 5 18:08:34 2003 From: os3476 at ithink.ch (Olivier Scherler) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] disappointment Message-ID: > Can't believe that anyone wouldn't want to use OSX 10.2 or higher! > > There are lots of improvements across the boards. Each update gets better > and better, faster and more stable. Maybe you're not interested in some of > the other enhancements but trust me you won't regret getting Jaquar.... Except if you buy it now and Apple releases Panther in September*..... * I have no idea of the planned release date of Panther, but I seem to remember 10.0, 10.1 and 10.2 came out around that time in 2000, 2001 and 2002. Olivier From gmaccioli at nc.rr.com Thu Jun 5 12:25:33 2003 From: gmaccioli at nc.rr.com (Gerald A. Maccioli, MD, FCCM) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Ready to be a rabbitt! Message-ID: <001201c32b76$b4e13820$3b18010a@rexhealth.com> When can we get the 'early bird' version?. I have been wasting some much time with PocketMac that I am just sick of it. Turned out to be a waste of money - but they certainly are trying! When? When? When? GAM From jerib at lexusofaustin.com Thu Jun 5 11:29:26 2003 From: jerib at lexusofaustin.com (jerib) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] disappointment In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Well, good information all around. Thanks everyone. I think I'm convinced to upgrade, but I think I'll wait for Panther as well. Jeri -----Original Message----- From: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com [mailto:missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com]On Behalf Of Mark Srebnik Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 9:41 AM To: The Missing Sync (Mac/Pocket PC) Subject: Re: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] disappointment Hi Jeri, Can't believe that anyone wouldn't want to use OSX 10.2 or higher! There are lots of improvements across the boards. Each update gets better and better, faster and more stable. Maybe you're not interested in some of the other enhancements but trust me you won't regret getting Jaquar.... I'm running OSX 10.2.6 now and have gone through all the updates with no problems either on my old beigeG3(w/G4) or my Gigabit Ethernet G4 Mac. Anyway, just my 2?.... Mark on 6/5/03 6:36 AM, jerib at jerib@lexusofaustin.com wrote: > I've been a member of this list for several months now under a different > email address that I cannot use on my work LAN (that's the reason for this > new one). Anyway, in all that time I've been under the impression that > Missing-Sync was for OS X, period. Now it comes to light we must have OS X > 10.2 or higher. Anything for those of us who have no use for the $130 worth > of "enhancements" of 10.2? > > Jeri B _______________________________________________ missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found at: http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk From cerebral at cortx.com Thu Jun 5 12:47:00 2003 From: cerebral at cortx.com (Seth D. Palmer) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] disappointment In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Please - this should not discussed on this list. On Thursday, Jun 5, 2003, at 10:41 America/New_York, Mark Srebnik wrote: > Hi Jeri, > > Can't believe that anyone wouldn't want to use OSX 10.2 or higher! > > There are lots of improvements across the boards. Each update gets > better > and better, faster and more stable. Maybe you're not interested in > some of > the other enhancements but trust me you won't regret getting Jaquar.... > > I'm running OSX 10.2.6 now and have gone through all the updates with > no > problems either on my old beigeG3(w/G4) or my Gigabit Ethernet G4 Mac. > > Anyway, just my 2?.... > > Mark > > > on 6/5/03 6:36 AM, jerib at jerib@lexusofaustin.com wrote: > >> I've been a member of this list for several months now under a >> different >> email address that I cannot use on my work LAN (that's the reason for >> this >> new one). Anyway, in all that time I've been under the impression >> that >> Missing-Sync was for OS X, period. Now it comes to light we must >> have OS X >> 10.2 or higher. Anything for those of us who have no use for the >> $130 worth >> of "enhancements" of 10.2? >> >> Jeri B > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > From pws2000 at gmx.net Thu Jun 5 19:32:28 2003 From: pws2000 at gmx.net (pws2000@gmx.net) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Beta Ipaq for Mac In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <4C088ED0-9773-11D7-B28D-000A27E326C6@gmx.net> Hi, how does one apply for the early adopters program? I would be quite interested in joining it, too. Best Regards, Peter From carroll.236 at osu.edu Thu Jun 5 14:36:36 2003 From: carroll.236 at osu.edu (Dave Carroll) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] What about Win CE 3.0 Support? In-Reply-To: <200306051336.h55Da6D09919@markspace.vps.fluidhosting.com> Message-ID: At 12:56 PM -0400 6/4/03, Dave Carroll wrote: >As I understand it, your product will require PocketPc2002 to work is that >correct? In which case it is no good to me. There is one advantage to the >comnpetitor's product in that it does currently work(sort of) with WinCE >3.0. > >Bummer..I was looking forward to checking out your product. >We are researching this issue currently (PPC 2000 and WinCE 3.0). >Could you recommend a device currently available in stores that runs one of >these older variants that we could pick up and try? >Brian >-- >_____________________________________________________________________ >Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 >540 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 >Los Gatos, CA 95030 >------------------------------ Brian, Not sure if it's possible to get a currently shipping model that runs PocketPC2000 and/or WinCE3.0. I picked up my 3760 iPaq model off of ebay. Although, not as convienent, it may be the only way of getting your hands on one. Compaq may also offer refurbished models off their website. From brian_hall at markspace.com Thu Jun 5 12:13:37 2003 From: brian_hall at markspace.com (Brian Hall) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Beta Ipaq for Mac In-Reply-To: <4C088ED0-9773-11D7-B28D-000A27E326C6@gmx.net> References: <4C088ED0-9773-11D7-B28D-000A27E326C6@gmx.net> Message-ID: >how does one apply for the early adopters program? I would be quite >interested in joining it, too. There is nothing to apply for. It will go on sale on or before Macworld Creative Expo in July. We will post a note here the moment it is available at the store for purchase. Brian -- _____________________________________________________________________ Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 540 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 Los Gatos, CA 95030 From justin.espinosa at freesurf.ch Thu Jun 5 23:28:35 2003 From: justin.espinosa at freesurf.ch (Justin Espinosa) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] What about Win CE 3.0 support? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <48084F61-9794-11D7-9AFE-000393DB3E84@freesurf.ch> > I have an iPaq 3670 running WinCE 3.0. I do not own a PC, and the PC's > I > have access to at school do not allow me to load software on them, so I > cannot upload a newer OS on the iPaq via the active sync software that > came > with the iPaq. Due to technical glitches, my copy of Virtual PC(95) is > not > currently working. > > As I understand it, your product will require PocketPc2002 to work is > that > correct? In which case it is no good to me. There is one advantage to > the > comnpetitor's product in that it does currently work(sort of) with > WinCE > 3.0. > > Bummer..I was looking forward to checking out your product. > It is possible to do the update from a flash memory card if someone with an updated device (like me) can send you the rom file. Someone did some programs to extract/restore the PocketPC OS in purpose to put linux on an iPaq and then switch back to PocketPC. If you extract your ROM, you can send it to Brian so he can turn one of his devices to a PocketPC 2000. Or maybe i could extract my rom (iPaq 3660 updated to pocketPC 2002 ) and send it to you. More informations on this can be found somewhere on http://www.handhelds.org/ Justin From brian_hall at markspace.com Thu Jun 5 14:53:55 2003 From: brian_hall at markspace.com (Brian Hall) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] What about Win CE 3.0 Support? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >Not sure if it's possible to get a currently shipping model that runs >PocketPC2000 and/or WinCE3.0. > Ouch - if there are no longer any devices being sold that support the older standards, it likely won't be a good use of time to support them (vs using that time on things like Entourage, etc, which appeal to a broader base). We'll have to see how hard (or easy) it is once we have one to try. If it is hard/time consuming, we likely won't be supporting those older no-longer sold devices. >I picked up my 3760 iPaq model off of ebay. Although, not as convienent, it >may be the only way of getting your hands on one. Compaq may also offer >refurbished models off their website. Brian -- _____________________________________________________________________ Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 540 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 Los Gatos, CA 95030 From fernanjl at georgetown.edu Fri Jun 6 13:15:56 2003 From: fernanjl at georgetown.edu (fernanjl@georgetown.edu) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Toshiba e740 Message-ID: <2c97b32c9e38.2c9e382c97b3@georgetown.edu> Any word on support for this device (Toshiba e740)? Pocket Mac is just horrible. I have the pro version and most of the time Entourage will "half-sync", leaving birthday information and other little details out. I would rather just use the iApps (I know Pocket Mac does this, but not well either) with iSync. I'll definately buy it when it comes out in July and be a guinea pig. I was thinking of selling my Toshiba e740 before I stumbled across this on MacNN. I'm really hoping missing sync works. Jorge From clblackman at spymac.com Fri Jun 6 13:35:00 2003 From: clblackman at spymac.com (clblackman@spymac.com) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] any ideas about pocketpc 2003? Message-ID: since it's rumored M$ is possibly releasing PocketPC 2003 late June is there enough time to prepare missing sync for PocketPC2k3? From KINNEYJD at uwec.edu Fri Jun 6 13:24:18 2003 From: KINNEYJD at uwec.edu (Kinney, Jonathan David) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] EAP for everyone? Message-ID: I am curious to find out if the early adoptors program is available for everyone or if it is just a select few? An earlier post to the message board said, "I hope I get selected for the EAP" I was under the impression it will be for anyone wanting to help test out the first try of the product, Please confirm. Thanks, Jon -----Original Message----- From: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-request@lists.markspace.com [mailto:missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-request@lists.markspace.com] Sent: Fri 6/6/2003 11:01 AM To: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com Cc: Subject: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk Digest, Vol 5, Issue 6 Send missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list submissions to missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-request@lists.markspace.com You can reach the person managing the list at missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-owner@lists.markspace.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of missing-sync-pocketpc-talk digest..." _______________________________________________ missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found at: http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk _______________________________________________ Today's Topics: 1. Re: Beta Ipaq for Mac 2. Re: What about Win CE 3.0 Support? (Dave Carroll) 3. Re: Beta Ipaq for Mac (Brian Hall) 4. Re: What about Win CE 3.0 support? (Justin Espinosa) 5. Re: What about Win CE 3.0 Support? (Brian Hall) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 18:32:28 +0200 From: pws2000@gmx.net To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Pocket PC\)" Subject: Re: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Beta Ipaq for Mac Message-ID: <4C088ED0-9773-11D7-B28D-000A27E326C6@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Reply-To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Pocket PC\)" Message: 1 Hi, how does one apply for the early adopters program? I would be quite interested in joining it, too. Best Regards, Peter ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2003 13:36:36 -0400 From: Dave Carroll To: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com Subject: Re: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] What about Win CE 3.0 Support? Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <200306051336.h55Da6D09919@markspace.vps.fluidhosting.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Precedence: list Reply-To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Pocket PC\)" Message: 2 At 12:56 PM -0400 6/4/03, Dave Carroll wrote: >As I understand it, your product will require PocketPc2002 to work is that >correct? In which case it is no good to me. There is one advantage to the >comnpetitor's product in that it does currently work(sort of) with WinCE >3.0. > >Bummer..I was looking forward to checking out your product. >We are researching this issue currently (PPC 2000 and WinCE 3.0). >Could you recommend a device currently available in stores that runs one of >these older variants that we could pick up and try? >Brian >-- >_____________________________________________________________________ >Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 >540 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 >Los Gatos, CA 95030 >------------------------------ Brian, Not sure if it's possible to get a currently shipping model that runs PocketPC2000 and/or WinCE3.0. I picked up my 3760 iPaq model off of ebay. Although, not as convienent, it may be the only way of getting your hands on one. Compaq may also offer refurbished models off their website. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 11:13:37 -0700 From: Brian Hall To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Pocket PC\)" Subject: Re: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Beta Ipaq for Mac Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4C088ED0-9773-11D7-B28D-000A27E326C6@gmx.net> References: <4C088ED0-9773-11D7-B28D-000A27E326C6@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Reply-To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Pocket PC\)" Message: 3 >how does one apply for the early adopters program? I would be quite >interested in joining it, too. There is nothing to apply for. It will go on sale on or before Macworld Creative Expo in July. We will post a note here the moment it is available at the store for purchase. Brian -- _____________________________________________________________________ Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 540 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 Los Gatos, CA 95030 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 22:28:35 +0200 From: Justin Espinosa To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Pocket PC\)" Subject: Re: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] What about Win CE 3.0 support? Message-ID: <48084F61-9794-11D7-9AFE-000393DB3E84@freesurf.ch> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Reply-To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Pocket PC\)" Message: 4 > I have an iPaq 3670 running WinCE 3.0. I do not own a PC, and the PC's > I > have access to at school do not allow me to load software on them, so I > cannot upload a newer OS on the iPaq via the active sync software that > came > with the iPaq. Due to technical glitches, my copy of Virtual PC(95) is > not > currently working. > > As I understand it, your product will require PocketPc2002 to work is > that > correct? In which case it is no good to me. There is one advantage to > the > comnpetitor's product in that it does currently work(sort of) with > WinCE > 3.0. > > Bummer..I was looking forward to checking out your product. > It is possible to do the update from a flash memory card if someone with an updated device (like me) can send you the rom file. Someone did some programs to extract/restore the PocketPC OS in purpose to put linux on an iPaq and then switch back to PocketPC. If you extract your ROM, you can send it to Brian so he can turn one of his devices to a PocketPC 2000. Or maybe i could extract my rom (iPaq 3660 updated to pocketPC 2002 ) and send it to you. More informations on this can be found somewhere on http://www.handhelds.org/ Justin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 13:53:55 -0700 From: Brian Hall To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Pocket PC\)" Subject: Re: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] What about Win CE 3.0 Support? Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Reply-To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Pocket PC\)" Message: 5 >Not sure if it's possible to get a currently shipping model that runs >PocketPC2000 and/or WinCE3.0. > Ouch - if there are no longer any devices being sold that support the older standards, it likely won't be a good use of time to support them (vs using that time on things like Entourage, etc, which appeal to a broader base). We'll have to see how hard (or easy) it is once we have one to try. If it is hard/time consuming, we likely won't be supporting those older no-longer sold devices. >I picked up my 3760 iPaq model off of ebay. Although, not as convienent, it >may be the only way of getting your hands on one. Compaq may also offer >refurbished models off their website. Brian -- _____________________________________________________________________ Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 540 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 Los Gatos, CA 95030 ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found at: http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk End of missing-sync-pocketpc-talk Digest, Vol 5, Issue 6 ******************************************************** From brian_hall at markspace.com Fri Jun 6 19:14:30 2003 From: brian_hall at markspace.com (Brian Hall) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] any ideas about pocketpc 2003? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >since it's rumored M$ is possibly releasing PocketPC 2003 late June is >there enough time to prepare missing sync for PocketPC2k3? We won't be looking at that until a) it is available for developer testing and b) after 1.0. Brian -- _____________________________________________________________________ Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 540 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 Los Gatos, CA 95030 From brian_hall at markspace.com Fri Jun 6 19:15:09 2003 From: brian_hall at markspace.com (Brian Hall) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] EAP for everyone? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >I am curious to find out if the early adoptors program is available for >everyone or if it is just a select few? An earlier post to the message >board said, "I hope I get selected for the EAP" I was under the impression >it will be for anyone wanting to help test out the first try of the >product, Please confirm. It will be for sale (discounted from the full price) and anyone will be allowed to purchase it. -- _____________________________________________________________________ Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 540 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 Los Gatos, CA 95030 From brian_hall at markspace.com Fri Jun 6 19:17:08 2003 From: brian_hall at markspace.com (Brian Hall) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Toshiba e740 In-Reply-To: <2c97b32c9e38.2c9e382c97b3@georgetown.edu> References: <2c97b32c9e38.2c9e382c97b3@georgetown.edu> Message-ID: >Any word on support for this device (Toshiba e740)? Pocket Mac is just >horrible. I have the pro version and most of the time Entourage >will "half-sync", leaving birthday information and other little details >out. I would rather just use the iApps (I know Pocket Mac does this, >but not well either) with iSync. We already have confirmed it on the e330 and e335. Presumably the e740 would work as well. What version of the OS does it have? Most currently for sale devices use: Pocket PC 3.0.11171 (build 11178) Brian -- _____________________________________________________________________ Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 540 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 Los Gatos, CA 95030 From ThesQuid at friedbaloney.com Sat Jun 7 11:25:05 2003 From: ThesQuid at friedbaloney.com (Thes Quid) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Internationalization / Chinese Message-ID: <4055C191-988F-11D7-85BA-000A9577649A@friedbaloney.com> I've got a dopod ( http://www.dopod.com ) and hope the syncing features will take into account other languages in the target device. I tried using PocketMac, it cam sometimes transfer files, but syncing address book data is just dead. Possibly becasue it's not listed as supported, but also possibly because the expected filenames are in chinese. I just hope that's taken into account when you put together this product. I'm looking forward to it. From brian_hall at markspace.com Fri Jun 6 20:38:22 2003 From: brian_hall at markspace.com (Brian Hall) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Internationalization / Chinese In-Reply-To: <4055C191-988F-11D7-85BA-000A9577649A@friedbaloney.com> References: <4055C191-988F-11D7-85BA-000A9577649A@friedbaloney.com> Message-ID: >I've got a dopod ( http://www.dopod.com ) and hope the syncing features >will take into account other languages in the target device. I tried >using PocketMac, it cam sometimes transfer files, but syncing address >book data is just dead. Possibly becasue it's not listed as supported, >but also possibly because the expected filenames are in chinese. I just >hope that's taken into account when you put together this product. I'm >looking forward to it. In general, we do that with our products. We may or may not have full unicode support in the 1.0, but we do a GREAT deal of business in Japan (with the CLIE version) and that is certainly a market we consider important and will be addressing post 1.0. A more interesting thing to examine is do all the iApps fully support unicode? We know iPhoto and iTunes are OK. We'll have to verify that for iSync, iCal and Address as well. FYI: For the CLIE we have versions localized to Japanese, French and German (and distribution/support in each of those markets - see http://www.markspace.com/distributors.html. Those are likely the ones we will do first for any product, all things being equal. We're pragmatic, and if we would see a return on investment in doing a Chinese localization, we'd do it. Left to our own, I don't see that happening, but if approached by a Chinese language device manufacturer, that could make sense. Brian -- _____________________________________________________________________ Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 540 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 Los Gatos, CA 95030 From brian_hall at markspace.com Fri Jun 6 20:49:15 2003 From: brian_hall at markspace.com (Brian Hall) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Nice mention on geek.com Message-ID: Nice mention on geek.com: http://www.geek.com/news/geeknews/2003Jun/bpd20030605020288.htm -- _____________________________________________________________________ Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 540 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 Los Gatos, CA 95030 From ThesQuid at friedbaloney.com Sat Jun 7 12:04:25 2003 From: ThesQuid at friedbaloney.com (Thes Quid) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Localization and iApp unicode Message-ID: I can confirm that all the iApps, iSync, iCal and Address will let you input and will display mixed characters. I have entries in these apps that have chinese, english and russian all mixed together. As to doing a localization, honestly, the Mac community in China is practically microscopic. The interface elements on such a plug-in are pretty limited. Heck, I'd just add on the localization myself if I needed it. :-) From mli at csun.edu Fri Jun 6 21:31:52 2003 From: mli at csun.edu (Mingfang Li) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Pocketpc Chinese Support Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20030606202609.03224598@pop.csun.edu> Hello, I have a Pocketpc (iPAQ 3875) with English interface. I also installed a Chinese software in order to input and display Chinese. I believe Pocketpc 2002 fully supports Unicode. OS X applications seem to support Unicode as well. At least in all applications I tried I was able to input Chinese (MS Office v. X; iCal, Address Book, Keynote ...). Thanks. Mingfang Li From thehan at mac.com Sun Jun 8 00:08:33 2003 From: thehan at mac.com (Han Rabinovitz) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Internationalization / Chinese In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Being a Hebrew/English user of mac (and a fresh switcher from PC) I must tell U the guys at Apple did a great job with "Unicoding" the right-to-left languages in OSX, this includes inserting of Hebrew (and Arabic alike) text in iCal, AddressBook etc. but they did left something out and this is the direction of the text - so U can enter text freely but points, question marks etc. and mixed English/Hebrew texts turn out to a complete mess. It is said that Panther will solve that as well (as it will solve anything missing in 10.2.x - right?) I wonder, following that, what your solution will look like on the iLife apps. In any case - waiting for joining the early plan (as one of Mark's Lab Rabbits) On Saturday, Jun 7, 2003, at 05:38 Asia/Jerusalem, Brian Hall wrote: > A more interesting thing to examine is do all the iApps fully support > unicode? We know iPhoto and iTunes are OK. We'll have to verify that > for > iSync, iCal and Address as well. > Yours Han Rabinovitz From matt at frontiertreks.com Sun Jun 8 22:41:44 2003 From: matt at frontiertreks.com (Matt) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] CAB files Message-ID: I have just bought a used 3670. I use a PowerBook G3 Pismo at home and I run OS 10.2.6. I have always used a Palm PDA up till late. I love my 3670. But I am REALY frustrated that I can't seem to load any software. I have tried the CAB Extractor from PocketMAC but it works only about a 10th of the time. Will Missing-Sync be able to help Mac users access the .exe files that Windows programmers love hiding their cab files in? One last thing, what to you guess the time will be from this first release to when the Entourage compatible version will be released? Matt From brian_hall at markspace.com Sun Jun 8 11:49:57 2003 From: brian_hall at markspace.com (Brian Hall) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] CAB files In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >I have just bought a used 3670. I use a PowerBook G3 Pismo at home and I run >OS 10.2.6. I have always used a Palm PDA up till late. I love my 3670. But I >am REALY frustrated that I can't seem to load any software. I have tried the >CAB Extractor from PocketMAC but it works only about a 10th of the time. There is a good reason for this - the only way to get 100% extraction would be to run the EXE in an emulation layer, ie Virtual PC. >Will Missing-Sync be able to help Mac users access the .exe files that >Windows programmers love hiding their cab files in? We will be taking a non-technical approach to making it easier to get Pocket PC apps. We are working with Handango (see our recent press release) and other software portals and ISVs to provide Mac friendly ZIP files and/or installers. We encourage you to ask your favorite Pocket PC software vendors to contact us (sales@markspace.com is best) to participate in this upcoming co-marketing opportunity. >One last thing, what to you guess the time will be from this first release >to when the Entourage compatible version will be released? We can't say. One step at a time... Brian -- _____________________________________________________________________ Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 540 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 Los Gatos, CA 95030 From davzelman at hotmail.com Mon Jun 9 00:11:39 2003 From: davzelman at hotmail.com (David Zelman) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] None Message-ID: here are 2 feature requests (while I'm sitting here dreaming about software that doesn't exist...i'm a big loser): #1. I would love to have AvantGo sync with my mac. #2. Please make available or direct users to a file converter for pocket word and pocket excel files that will run on OS X. -just my $0.02 _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From mftalon at mac.com Sun Jun 8 23:28:49 2003 From: mftalon at mac.com (Talon) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Quicken Message-ID: Is this the correct place to ask for feature requests? If so, then if you could get Pocket Quicken to sync with Quicken for Macintosh then you would have a real hit in my book! Thanks! Can't wait to give this software a try. From benoit at metapages.com Mon Jun 9 12:31:20 2003 From: benoit at metapages.com (Benoit PEREIRA DA SILVA) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Bluetooth gateway. Message-ID: Hi folks, I m Benoit from Metapages (France). We are currently developping a graphic engine that streams stacks of instructions for whiteboarding applications and multimodals dynamic graphic flows, ... We are looking for a bluetooth gateway to exchange between our Pocket PC & Mac OS x . For our test we use a G4 Titanium with a Bluetooth USB key and a LOOX 600. Asynchronous file exchange works correctly using the standard exchange procedure : We draw on Mac OS X send it to Pocket PC that extends the drawing send it back to mos X that send to a Symbian emulator on Windows... A web gateway would facilitate our test cycle allowing to post data very easily. Do you have any ideas about how to use the G4 as a gateway ? All the best BPDS ___________________________________________________________ Benoit PEREIRA DA SILVA (CEO) Mob.: 33+(0)6 60 64 66 63 ___________________________________________________________ Metapages : 29 Grande Rue Nazareth - 31000 Toulouse France Tel : 33+(0)5 61 52 56 21?Fax : 33+(0)5 61 52 54 97 www.metapages.com | www.imagofabrica.com ___________________________________________________________ Metamining : 24, Khan Asparouh Str. 1000 Sofia Bulgaria Tel : 359 (2) 98 19 984 www.metamining.com | Outsourcing ___________________________________________________________ This e-mail is confidential. Distribution, copy, publication or use of this information for any purpose is prohibited without agreement of the sender. Ce message est confidentiel. Toute distribution, copie, publication ou usage des informations contenues dans ce message sont interdits sans agr?ment pr?alable de l'exp?diteur. From Martin at thegardens.demon.co.uk Mon Jun 9 10:17:03 2003 From: Martin at thegardens.demon.co.uk (Martin Allen) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] None In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 9/6/03 4:11 am, "David Zelman" wrote: > here are 2 feature requests (while I'm sitting here dreaming about software > that doesn't exist...i'm a big loser): > > #1. I would love to have AvantGo sync with my mac. > > #2. Please make available or direct users to a file converter for pocket > word and pocket excel files that will run on OS X. > > -just my $0.02 > > _________________________________________________________________ > Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk Hi I use both word and excel on both Jaguar and pocket PC, with Office X. All I do is drag the files onto an SD card and they open on the Pocket PC. Hope that this is some help. Martin From brian_hall at markspace.com Mon Jun 9 09:08:05 2003 From: brian_hall at markspace.com (Brian Hall) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] None In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >I use both word and excel on both Jaguar and pocket PC, with Office X. >All I do is drag the files onto an SD card and they open on the Pocket PC. > >Hope that this is some help. And to go the other way, you can "Save as" on the PPC using "RTF", "DOC" or "XLS" formats. -- _____________________________________________________________________ Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 540 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 Los Gatos, CA 95030 From os3476 at ithink.ch Mon Jun 9 19:56:30 2003 From: os3476 at ithink.ch (Olivier Scherler) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] None In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > >I use both word and excel on both Jaguar and pocket PC, with Office X. > >All I do is drag the files onto an SD card and they open on the Pocket PC. > > > >Hope that this is some help. > > And to go the other way, you can "Save as" on the PPC using "RTF", "DOC" or > "XLS" formats. Yes, but since you can't make PocketXyz automatically save in those formats, it gets tedious very quickly. Olivier From artconnection at mac.com Tue Jun 10 23:05:12 2003 From: artconnection at mac.com (mario provenzano) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Message-ID: :: 4 U :: ::::: mario provenzano ::::: From gmapes at teamrepro.com Wed Jun 11 14:16:55 2003 From: gmapes at teamrepro.com (Gordon Mapes) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Needed features Message-ID: Key features: * sync of notes * Sync Entourage is KEY! * sync ink drawings like notepad in Palm. * sync audio notes * sync emails in entourage. Apples ical and address book is so limited. KEY ISSUES is many people categorize to-do's and notes for easy access. Notice that Palm does this right and Apple is very week. Thanks Gordon PS if you need any more ideas please let me know. I have been a pda geek ever sense the original Sharp organizer and the NEWTON! From tskousen at mubus.com Thu Jun 12 12:55:51 2003 From: tskousen at mubus.com (Thomas Skousen) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Re: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk Digest, Vol 5, Issue 13 References: <200306121603.h5CG31D14200@markspace.vps.fluidhosting.com> Message-ID: <00c101c33114$3edfff00$cd76ea0c@mobile> Echo this last past. Sync with entourage and the categorization of to-dos. What I would really like most, although I don't know if this is the place to make it happen, is the ability to drag a list into an time or appointment block. Thanks, Thomas ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 9:03 AM Subject: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk Digest, Vol 5, Issue 13 > Send missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list submissions to > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-request@lists.markspace.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-owner@lists.markspace.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of missing-sync-pocketpc-talk digest..." > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > _______________________________________________ > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Needed features (Gordon Mapes) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 13:16:55 -0700 > From: Gordon Mapes > To: > Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Needed features > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Precedence: list > Reply-To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Pocket PC\)" > > Message: 1 > > Key features: > * sync of notes > * Sync Entourage is KEY! > * sync ink drawings like notepad in Palm. > * sync audio notes > * sync emails in entourage. > > Apples ical and address book is so limited. KEY ISSUES is many people > categorize to-do's and notes for easy access. Notice that Palm does this > right and Apple is very week. > > Thanks > > Gordon > > PS if you need any more ideas please let me know. I have been a pda geek > ever sense the original Sharp organizer and the NEWTON! > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > > End of missing-sync-pocketpc-talk Digest, Vol 5, Issue 13 > ********************************************************* From jgrubic at bozeman.k12.mt.us Fri Jun 13 11:42:23 2003 From: jgrubic at bozeman.k12.mt.us (James Grubic) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] MacOS PDA Link - Development Opp? References: <200303141708.h2EH8Fe10988@markspace.vps.fluidhosting.com> Message-ID: <3EE9FEEF.6000603@bozeman.k12.mt.us> Hi folks, This is a bit off-topic, but it's very interesting. http://www.apple-zone.com/ This AppleZone article links to a Japanese site (http://iq3630.tripod.co.jp/mac/mac.htm) of a person who managed to get Basilisk, the freeware MacOS 68k emulator, running on an iPaq. Unfortunately, the iPaq was running Linux as an OS and not a PocketPC 2002 OS, so this is not directly applicable to us unless we are willing to hose our existing OS on our PocketPC devices. Let me say for the record that I would LOVE a MacOS PDA, or even to be able to run "classic Mac" apps on my PocketPC inside of an emulator. MarkSpace, any interest on taking the open-source Basilisk code and porting it to PocketPC OS? Any shareware developer willing to take on such a task would get my registration moneys very quickly. James From mark at marksrebnikarchitect.com Fri Jun 13 17:11:55 2003 From: mark at marksrebnikarchitect.com (Mark Srebnik) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] MacOS PDA Link - Development Opp? In-Reply-To: <3EE9FEEF.6000603@bozeman.k12.mt.us> Message-ID: Hi James, Interesting idea.... Just made me think that we might be able to easily do this by getting one of the Sharp Zaurus units that run Linux out of the box like the new SL-C700 series. Check it out at Dynamism.com website! http://www.dynamism.com/zaurus7xx/index.shtml Excerpt from the website: Sharp has just updated their white-hot SL-C700 series with two new models: the SL-C750 and SL-C760. The new models use the latest Intel XScale PXA255 400MHz processor, so applications launch at twice the speed of the SL-C700. The SL-C750 has more system RAM (64mb) and more flash RAM (64mb). The SL-C750 has black casing around the screen. The all-silver SL-C760 features 64mb system RAM, even more flash RAM (128mb), and an upgraded battery. I've wanting an excuse to get one of these things. I really like the form and design, but didn't think I had a good reason to get a Linux based PDA.... Mark on 6/13/03 9:42 AM, James Grubic at jgrubic@bozeman.k12.mt.us wrote: > Hi folks, > > This is a bit off-topic, but it's very interesting. > > http://www.apple-zone.com/ > > This AppleZone article links to a Japanese site > (http://iq3630.tripod.co.jp/mac/mac.htm) of a person who managed to get > Basilisk, the freeware MacOS 68k emulator, running on an iPaq. > Unfortunately, the iPaq was running Linux as an OS and not a PocketPC > 2002 OS, so this is not directly applicable to us unless we are willing > to hose our existing OS on our PocketPC devices. > > Let me say for the record that I would LOVE a MacOS PDA, or even to be > able to run "classic Mac" apps on my PocketPC inside of an emulator. > MarkSpace, any interest on taking the open-source Basilisk code and > porting it to PocketPC OS? Any shareware developer willing to take on > such a task would get my registration moneys very quickly. > > > > James From tbrown105 at att.net Sat Jun 14 11:26:11 2003 From: tbrown105 at att.net (Thomas Brown) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Entourage, AvantGo In-Reply-To: <200306141602.h5EG2cD03662@markspace.vps.fluidhosting.com> Message-ID: I really think you?re missing the boat by ignoring Entourage in your initial release. While iCal and related software are distributed in large numbers due to its bundling with Apple hardware, the more sophisticated users (such as those who use Pocket PC) quickly progress to Entourage. And these users are your target market, aren?t they? I am also searching for a way to use AvantGo with my Mac and iPaq. Is there any way your software will help? Thanks! Tom Brown On 6/14/03 9:02 AM, "missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-request@lists.markspace.com" wrote: > Send missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list submissions to > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-request@lists.markspace.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-owner@lists.markspace.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of missing-sync-pocketpc-talk digest..." > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > _______________________________________________ > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. > Re: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk Digest, Vol 5, Issue 13 > (Thomas Skousen) > 2. MacOS PDA Link - Development Opp? (James Grubic) > 3. Re: MacOS PDA Link - Development Opp? (Mark Srebnik) > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > From justin.espinosa at freesurf.ch Sat Jun 14 20:52:56 2003 From: justin.espinosa at freesurf.ch (Justin Espinosa) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Entourage, AvantGo In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <07C0F975-9E91-11D7-B790-000393DB3E84@freesurf.ch> i think adding features like entourage sync and avantgo etc.. will just require new plugins to the app. This work can be done later. it's good to have soon a functionnal program for the basic features it gives (i think it's good already) and later, new plugins can be added to the default set. it's good for us, users to have at least some thing working, and good for the developper so he can sell and have more money to support his future programming... From brian_hall at markspace.com Sat Jun 14 11:58:10 2003 From: brian_hall at markspace.com (Brian Hall) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Entourage, AvantGo In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >I am also searching for a way to use AvantGo with my Mac and iPaq. Is there >any way your software will help? Not at this time. Someone would have to write a plug-in for it. AvantGo hasn't been terribly responsive since the merger they were in earlier this year. Brian -- _____________________________________________________________________ Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 540 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 Los Gatos, CA 95030 From webmaster at sprinklerhead.com Sat Jun 14 11:58:32 2003 From: webmaster at sprinklerhead.com (Jeremiah Owen) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Sync with PC and Mac In-Reply-To: <07C0F975-9E91-11D7-B790-000393DB3E84@freesurf.ch> Message-ID: <000001c3329e$96166ee0$6401a8c0@entropy1980> I just recently picked up a 12" PB and have made "the switch",however, I still want to be able to sync my Pocket PC to my PC and would like to know if the program will allow me to sync between both my PC and my Mac. This would be great because then I can maintain I set of contacts/calendar/tasks etc. and not worry about entering it on both my Mac and PC. Thanks, Jeremiah From brian_hall at markspace.com Sat Jun 14 12:07:32 2003 From: brian_hall at markspace.com (Brian Hall) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Sync with PC and Mac In-Reply-To: <000001c3329e$96166ee0$6401a8c0@entropy1980> References: <000001c3329e$96166ee0$6401a8c0@entropy1980> Message-ID: >I just recently picked up a 12" PB and have made "the switch",however, I >still want to be able to sync my Pocket PC to my PC and would like to >know if the program will allow me to sync between both my PC and my Mac. >This would be great because then I can maintain I set of >contacts/calendar/tasks etc. and not worry about entering it on both my >Mac and PC. If you are asking if you could sync with a PC and also sync with a Mac, the answer is yes. Brian -- _____________________________________________________________________ Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 540 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 Los Gatos, CA 95030 From fmcpherson at mac.com Sat Jun 14 15:15:37 2003 From: fmcpherson at mac.com (Frank McPherson) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Sync with PC and Mac In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <32CB7CB8-9E94-11D7-A449-000A956AA362@mac.com> I hope that you test this functionality very well. One of the problems that I have with Pocket Mac is that it doesn't allow my Pocket PC to play nicely with both a PC and my PowerBook. One of the things that it does is reset all items so that after I sync a Pocket PC with Power Mac the next time I go to my PC it thinks it needs to resync everything, which is not good. On Saturday, June 14, 2003, at 02:07 PM, Brian Hall wrote: >> I just recently picked up a 12" PB and have made "the >> switch",however, I >> still want to be able to sync my Pocket PC to my PC and would like to >> know if the program will allow me to sync between both my PC and my >> Mac. >> This would be great because then I can maintain I set of >> contacts/calendar/tasks etc. and not worry about entering it on both >> my >> Mac and PC. > > If you are asking if you could sync with a PC and also sync with a > Mac, the > answer is yes. > > Brian > > -- > _____________________________________________________________________ > Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 > 540 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 > Los Gatos, CA 95030 > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk From webmaster at sprinklerhead.com Sat Jun 14 12:31:11 2003 From: webmaster at sprinklerhead.com (Jeremiah Owen) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Sync with PC and Mac In-Reply-To: <32CB7CB8-9E94-11D7-A449-000A956AA362@mac.com> Message-ID: <000701c332a3$260cb190$6401a8c0@entropy1980> That's why I asked because I tried Pocket Mac and I didn't work so so well, I was hoping this would work better. Jeremiah -----Original Message----- From: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com [mailto:missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com] On Behalf Of Frank McPherson Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 11:16 AM To: The Missing Sync (Mac/Pocket PC) Subject: Re: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Sync with PC and Mac I hope that you test this functionality very well. One of the problems that I have with Pocket Mac is that it doesn't allow my Pocket PC to play nicely with both a PC and my PowerBook. One of the things that it does is reset all items so that after I sync a Pocket PC with Power Mac the next time I go to my PC it thinks it needs to resync everything, which is not good. On Saturday, June 14, 2003, at 02:07 PM, Brian Hall wrote: >> I just recently picked up a 12" PB and have made "the >> switch",however, I >> still want to be able to sync my Pocket PC to my PC and would like to >> know if the program will allow me to sync between both my PC and my >> Mac. >> This would be great because then I can maintain I set of >> contacts/calendar/tasks etc. and not worry about entering it on both >> my >> Mac and PC. > > If you are asking if you could sync with a PC and also sync with a > Mac, the > answer is yes. > > Brian > > -- > _____________________________________________________________________ > Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 > 540 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 > Los Gatos, CA 95030 > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk _______________________________________________ missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found at: http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk From adam at thetechpub.com Sat Jun 14 15:44:57 2003 From: adam at thetechpub.com (Adam) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Sync with PC and Mac In-Reply-To: <000701c332a3$260cb190$6401a8c0@entropy1980> Message-ID: <4BFBC8DC-9E98-11D7-8EF4-0003938029E8@thetechpub.com> Pocketmac is such a poor application that it should be banned... Check out the forums about it and you will see TONS of postings with problems that simply should not be. Missing-Sync looks like it's not going to have any of the problems that plague the pocketmac users... Especially since there is a great team working on it, that actually LISTENS to what people want. I'll be getting the early adoption version as soon as I can, and then updating as more features are added (on the same major revision, ie 1.x)... Depending on what gets added with 2.x I'll probably update to that when it happens... Adam On Saturday, June 14, 2003, at 02:31 PM, Jeremiah Owen wrote: > That's why I asked because I tried Pocket Mac and I didn't work so so > well, I was hoping this would work better. > > Jeremiah > > -----Original Message----- > From: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com > [mailto:missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com] On > Behalf Of Frank McPherson > Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 11:16 AM > To: The Missing Sync (Mac/Pocket PC) > Subject: Re: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Sync with PC and Mac > > I hope that you test this functionality very well. One of the problems > that I have with Pocket Mac is that it doesn't allow my Pocket PC to > play nicely with both a PC and my PowerBook. One of the things that it > does is reset all items so that after I sync a Pocket PC with Power Mac > the next time I go to my PC it thinks it needs to resync everything, > which is not good. > > On Saturday, June 14, 2003, at 02:07 PM, Brian Hall wrote: > >>> I just recently picked up a 12" PB and have made "the >>> switch",however, I >>> still want to be able to sync my Pocket PC to my PC and would like to >>> know if the program will allow me to sync between both my PC and my >>> Mac. >>> This would be great because then I can maintain I set of >>> contacts/calendar/tasks etc. and not worry about entering it on both >>> my >>> Mac and PC. >> >> If you are asking if you could sync with a PC and also sync with a >> Mac, the >> answer is yes. >> >> Brian >> >> -- >> _____________________________________________________________________ >> Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 >> 540 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 >> Los Gatos, CA 95030 >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com >> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can >> be found at: >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be > found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > From fmcpherson at mac.com Sat Jun 14 16:59:00 2003 From: fmcpherson at mac.com (Frank McPherson) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Sync with PC and Mac In-Reply-To: <4BFBC8DC-9E98-11D7-8EF4-0003938029E8@thetechpub.com> Message-ID: I just wonder though... part of what I am told are the problems with Pocket Mac is getting information about ActiveSync from Microsoft, and that Microsoft hasn't provided much help in developing a Mac synchronization product. If that is the case, how is Missing-Sync not going to run into the same problems? Frank On Saturday, June 14, 2003, at 02:44 PM, Adam wrote: > Pocketmac is such a poor application that it should be banned... Check > out the forums about it and you will see TONS of postings with > problems that simply should not be. > > Missing-Sync looks like it's not going to have any of the problems > that plague the pocketmac users... Especially since there is a great > team working on it, that actually LISTENS to what people want. I'll be > getting the early adoption version as soon as I can, and then updating > as more features are added (on the same major revision, ie 1.x)... > Depending on what gets added with 2.x I'll probably update to that > when it happens... > > Adam > > On Saturday, June 14, 2003, at 02:31 PM, Jeremiah Owen wrote: > >> That's why I asked because I tried Pocket Mac and I didn't work so so >> well, I was hoping this would work better. >> >> Jeremiah >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com >> [mailto:missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com] On >> Behalf Of Frank McPherson >> Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 11:16 AM >> To: The Missing Sync (Mac/Pocket PC) >> Subject: Re: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Sync with PC and Mac >> >> I hope that you test this functionality very well. One of the problems >> that I have with Pocket Mac is that it doesn't allow my Pocket PC to >> play nicely with both a PC and my PowerBook. One of the things that it >> does is reset all items so that after I sync a Pocket PC with Power >> Mac >> the next time I go to my PC it thinks it needs to resync everything, >> which is not good. >> >> On Saturday, June 14, 2003, at 02:07 PM, Brian Hall wrote: >> >>>> I just recently picked up a 12" PB and have made "the >>>> switch",however, I >>>> still want to be able to sync my Pocket PC to my PC and would like >>>> to >>>> know if the program will allow me to sync between both my PC and my >>>> Mac. >>>> This would be great because then I can maintain I set of >>>> contacts/calendar/tasks etc. and not worry about entering it on both >>>> my >>>> Mac and PC. >>> >>> If you are asking if you could sync with a PC and also sync with a >>> Mac, the >>> answer is yes. >>> >>> Brian >>> >>> -- >>> _____________________________________________________________________ >>> Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 >>> 540 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 >>> Los Gatos, CA 95030 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list >>> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com >>> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can >>> be found at: >>> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc- >>> talk >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com >> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can >> be >> found at: >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com >> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can >> be found at: >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk >> > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk From gmapes at nextel.blackberry.net Sat Jun 14 17:08:45 2003 From: gmapes at nextel.blackberry.net (Gordon Mapes) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Sync with PC and Mac Message-ID: <1089763571-1055621664-cardhu_blackberry.rim.net-20652-@engine05> The key to any sync mac-pocketpc is the sync with entourage. That what people that buy pocketpc's use. Ical and address book are just to basic at this point. Steve jobs said last speech that apple is working on ical and address book and mail and will be exciting. Unless someone knows what apple is up to with these products then having the functionality to sync with entourage is a Must! -----Original Message----- From: Frank McPherson Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 15:59:00 To:"The Missing Sync (Mac/Pocket PC)" Subject: Re: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Sync with PC and Mac I just wonder though... part of what I am told are the problems with Pocket Mac is getting information about ActiveSync from Microsoft, and that Microsoft hasn't provided much help in developing a Mac synchronization product. If that is the case, how is Missing-Sync not going to run into the same problems? Frank On Saturday, June 14, 2003, at 02:44 PM, Adam wrote: > Pocketmac is such a poor application that it should be banned... Check > out the forums about it and you will see TONS of postings with > problems that simply should not be. > > Missing-Sync looks like it's not going to have any of the problems > that plague the pocketmac users... Especially since there is a great > team working on it, that actually LISTENS to what people want. I'll be > getting the early adoption version as soon as I can, and then updating > as more features are added (on the same major revision, ie 1.x)... > Depending on what gets added with 2.x I'll probably update to that > when it happens... > > Adam > > On Saturday, June 14, 2003, at 02:31 PM, Jeremiah Owen wrote: > >> That's why I asked because I tried Pocket Mac and I didn't work so so >> well, I was hoping this would work better. >> >> Jeremiah >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com >> [mailto:missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com] On >> Behalf Of Frank McPherson >> Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 11:16 AM >> To: The Missing Sync (Mac/Pocket PC) >> Subject: Re: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Sync with PC and Mac >> >> I hope that you test this functionality very well. One of the problems >> that I have with Pocket Mac is that it doesn't allow my Pocket PC to >> play nicely with both a PC and my PowerBook. One of the things that it >> does is reset all items so that after I sync a Pocket PC with Power >> Mac >> the next time I go to my PC it thinks it needs to resync everything, >> which is not good. >> >> On Saturday, June 14, 2003, at 02:07 PM, Brian Hall wrote: >> >>>> I just recently picked up a 12" PB and have made "the >>>> switch",however, I >>>> still want to be able to sync my Pocket PC to my PC and would like >>>> to >>>> know if the program will allow me to sync between both my PC and my >>>> Mac. >>>> This would be great because then I can maintain I set of >>>> contacts/calendar/tasks etc. and not worry about entering it on both >>>> my >>>> Mac and PC. >>> >>> If you are asking if you could sync with a PC and also sync with a >>> Mac, the >>> answer is yes. >>> >>> Brian >>> >>> -- >>> _____________________________________________________________________ >>> Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 >>> 540 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 >>> Los Gatos, CA 95030 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list >>> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com >>> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can >>> be found at: >>> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc- >>> talk >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com >> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can >> be >> found at: >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com >> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can >> be found at: >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk >> > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk _______________________________________________ missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found at: http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk Gordon Mapes Team Reprographics From kgantz at iglou.com Sat Jun 14 17:17:06 2003 From: kgantz at iglou.com (Ken Gantz) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Will I still need a Pee Cee for reasons other than syncing..? Message-ID: <2BA6F17C-9EA5-11D7-83EF-000393CAE836@iglou.com> Howdy, I'm contemplating the purchase of the T-Mobile Pocket PC phone now that I will be able to sync it to my iLife applications but I'm wondering if I will still need the assistance of a PeeCee sometimes anyway. I've never owned a Pocket PC (only Palm stuff) and am wondering will I need access to a PC to do systems software updates (if Microsoft even has any) or to load software on the Pocket PC, etc. I'm strictly limited to my firewire 800 G4 and do not have access to a Pee Cee anywhere (unless you count virtual PC running Windows 98). ___ Ken Gantz kgantz@iglou.com Work - 502.329.3724 THE REAL PROBLEM IS NOT WHETHER MACHINES THINK, FAX - 502.329.6199 BUT WHETHER MEN DO. - B.F. Skinner All your base are belong to us! From adam at thetechpub.com Sat Jun 14 17:27:45 2003 From: adam at thetechpub.com (Adam) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Sync with PC and Mac In-Reply-To: <1089763571-1055621664-cardhu_blackberry.rim.net-20652-@engine05> Message-ID: Not true... I have a PocketPC device (iPaq 1910) and I don't use entourage... Never have, never will... Mail works wonderfully for me, as well as the 13+ email addresses I have it check constantly. I also use the OS X native Address book all the time. I also use iSync to sync my T720 phone and my Mac. To think that everyone with a pocketpc device will be using entourage is just wrong. I know many people that don't use entourage for a variety of reasons... Adam On Saturday, June 14, 2003, at 04:08 PM, Gordon Mapes wrote: > The key to any sync mac-pocketpc is the sync with entourage. That what > people that buy pocketpc's use. Ical and address book are just to > basic at this point. Steve jobs said last speech that apple is working > on ical and address book and mail and will be exciting. Unless someone > knows what apple is up to with these products then having the > functionality to sync with entourage is a Must! > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Frank McPherson > Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 15:59:00 > To:"The Missing Sync (Mac/Pocket > PC)" > Subject: Re: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Sync with PC and Mac > > I just wonder though... part of what I am told are the problems with > Pocket Mac is getting information about ActiveSync from Microsoft, and > that Microsoft hasn't provided much help in developing a Mac > synchronization product. If that is the case, how is Missing-Sync not > going to run into the same problems? > > Frank > > On Saturday, June 14, 2003, at 02:44 PM, Adam wrote: > >> Pocketmac is such a poor application that it should be banned... Check >> out the forums about it and you will see TONS of postings with >> problems that simply should not be. >> >> Missing-Sync looks like it's not going to have any of the problems >> that plague the pocketmac users... Especially since there is a great >> team working on it, that actually LISTENS to what people want. I'll be >> getting the early adoption version as soon as I can, and then updating >> as more features are added (on the same major revision, ie 1.x)... >> Depending on what gets added with 2.x I'll probably update to that >> when it happens... >> >> Adam >> >> On Saturday, June 14, 2003, at 02:31 PM, Jeremiah Owen wrote: >> >>> That's why I asked because I tried Pocket Mac and I didn't work so so >>> well, I was hoping this would work better. >>> >>> Jeremiah >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com >>> [mailto:missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com] On >>> Behalf Of Frank McPherson >>> Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 11:16 AM >>> To: The Missing Sync (Mac/Pocket PC) >>> Subject: Re: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Sync with PC and Mac >>> >>> I hope that you test this functionality very well. One of the >>> problems >>> that I have with Pocket Mac is that it doesn't allow my Pocket PC to >>> play nicely with both a PC and my PowerBook. One of the things that >>> it >>> does is reset all items so that after I sync a Pocket PC with Power >>> Mac >>> the next time I go to my PC it thinks it needs to resync everything, >>> which is not good. >>> >>> On Saturday, June 14, 2003, at 02:07 PM, Brian Hall wrote: >>> >>>>> I just recently picked up a 12" PB and have made "the >>>>> switch",however, I >>>>> still want to be able to sync my Pocket PC to my PC and would like >>>>> to >>>>> know if the program will allow me to sync between both my PC and my >>>>> Mac. >>>>> This would be great because then I can maintain I set of >>>>> contacts/calendar/tasks etc. and not worry about entering it on >>>>> both >>>>> my >>>>> Mac and PC. >>>> >>>> If you are asking if you could sync with a PC and also sync with a >>>> Mac, the >>>> answer is yes. >>>> >>>> Brian >>>> >>>> -- >>>> ____________________________________________________________________ >>>> _ >>>> Mark/Space, Inc. voice >>>> 408-293-7299 >>>> 540 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax >>>> 408-293-7298 >>>> Los Gatos, CA 95030 >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list >>>> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com >>>> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can >>>> be found at: >>>> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc- >>>> talk >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list >>> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com >>> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can >>> be >>> found at: >>> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc- >>> talk >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list >>> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com >>> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can >>> be found at: >>> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc- >>> talk >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com >> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can >> be found at: >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > > Gordon Mapes > Team Reprographics > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > From fmcpherson at mac.com Sat Jun 14 17:41:10 2003 From: fmcpherson at mac.com (Frank McPherson) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Will I still need a Pee Cee for reasons other than syncing..? In-Reply-To: <2BA6F17C-9EA5-11D7-83EF-000393CAE836@iglou.com> Message-ID: <88049EB1-9EA8-11D7-A449-000A956AA362@mac.com> Application install is going to be a problem even with the Missing-Sync product. The challenge is to get the software providers to provide a download version of their app in a Mac compressed format. The problem is that the installer applications provided with the development tools create executables that bundle all of the install files. Missing-Sync posted here that they aren't providing anything special for extracting the install files from the setup.exe, instead they are working with the software distributors like Handango to make Mac versions of the setup files available. I am skeptical that they will succeed. However, I think that the PocketMac provides a CAB extractor for the setup.exe. All you would need to do is extract the CAB file and then copy it to the Pocket PC. Once it is on your Pocket PC you can then install it from there. The CAB files "execute" directly on the Pocket PC to install the app. On Saturday, June 14, 2003, at 04:17 PM, Ken Gantz wrote: > Howdy, > I'm contemplating the purchase of the T-Mobile Pocket PC phone now > that I will be able to sync it to my iLife applications but I'm > wondering if I will still need the assistance of a PeeCee sometimes > anyway. I've never owned a Pocket PC (only Palm stuff) and am > wondering will I need access to a PC to do systems software updates > (if Microsoft even has any) or to load software on the Pocket PC, etc. > I'm strictly limited to my firewire 800 G4 and do not have access to a > Pee Cee anywhere (unless you count virtual PC running Windows 98). > > ___ > Ken Gantz kgantz@iglou.com > Work - 502.329.3724 THE REAL PROBLEM IS NOT WHETHER MACHINES > THINK, > FAX - 502.329.6199 BUT WHETHER MEN DO. - B.F. Skinner > All your base are belong to us! > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk From plainsong at mac.com Sun Jun 15 01:04:32 2003 From: plainsong at mac.com (Kimberly Ruohio) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Future Bluetooth support? Message-ID: Are there any long term plans for adding a bluetooth sync option? It's not a make-or-break issue, but it would be nice to have. Also, when where will there be a list of supported Pocketpc devices? I have a Jornada 568 but I'm looking to buy one of the new Ipaqs, probably the 1940. Of course I can't really do this if my device isn't supported. I'd also like to throw in my vote and say Entourage isn't important, at least for me. I can't stand Outlook, and while Entourage is nicer to use, I don't really like it much either. I agree with Markspace in that it's more important to support the Mac apps first. As for plugins, the only really important one for me would be a way to sync Word and Excel documents, though even that is no big deal - I just use my card reader for that. Any other conduits such as Worldmate (these guys have Mac experience and would perhaps work with you?), or Avantgo are relatively unimportant. I just connect the Pocketpc directly to the network for that. We just need a way to Sync and install stuff! :) I'm glad Markspace is on the case. I was a happy user of Missing Sync for my Clie 770c and found it far far superior to the Windows software. I'm greatly looking forward to July. :) Thanks, Kim From os3476 at ithink.ch Sun Jun 15 00:10:38 2003 From: os3476 at ithink.ch (Olivier Scherler) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Entourage, AvantGo In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I really think you?re missing the boat by ignoring Entourage in your initial > release. While iCal and related software are distributed in large numbers > due to its bundling with Apple hardware, the more sophisticated users (such > as those who use Pocket PC) quickly progress to Entourage. And these users > are your target marke