From pscott at extremesims.com Tue Jul 1 12:47:29 2003 From: pscott at extremesims.com (Patrick Scott) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:18 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Countdown! Message-ID: <51F77CF2-ABDB-11D7-82E1-000393A338A4@extremesims.com> 1 July - early adopter program this month (pending all goes well, I assume). From chetccox at cs.com Tue Jul 1 09:51:38 2003 From: chetccox at cs.com (Chet Cox) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:18 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Countdown! References: <51F77CF2-ABDB-11D7-82E1-000393A338A4@extremesims.com> Message-ID: <000c01c33fe8$a98034a0$6701a8c0@S0030261741> I thought you had said June before! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Scott" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 8:47 AM Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Countdown! > 1 July - early adopter program this month (pending all goes well, I > assume). > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > From os3476 at ithink.ch Tue Jul 1 21:08:25 2003 From: os3476 at ithink.ch (Olivier Scherler) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:18 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Countdown! In-Reply-To: <000c01c33fe8$a98034a0$6701a8c0@S0030261741> Message-ID: > > 1 July - early adopter program this month (pending all goes well, I > > assume). > > I thought you had said June before! It was even: > We can now say it will be in June (for sure). Olivier From madsk8er at mac.com Thu Jul 3 14:25:56 2003 From: madsk8er at mac.com (Jonathan Kinney) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:18 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Where is it! Message-ID: I'm getting restless...I really want this software...I though it was going to be released the Monday after WWDC. At least that is what we were lead to believe. "There will be an early adopters version ready for WWDC." Well it's now July 3 and we were promised the software in June...common guys! I have a credit card and I'll show you the money...but Show me the software! From jwick at meccorp.mec.edu Thu Jul 3 15:39:50 2003 From: jwick at meccorp.mec.edu (Jim Wick) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:18 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Where is it! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Well, their website says that it will be released by MacWorld in July. The things that I am concerned about is that they have not set a price yet for it. They are continuing to make some of the marketing mistakes that PocketMac did. On 7/3/03 2:25 PM, "Jonathan Kinney" wrote: > I'm getting restless...I really want this software...I though it was > going to be released the Monday after WWDC. At least that is what we > were lead to believe. "There will be an early adopters version ready > for WWDC." Well it's now July 3 and we were promised the software in > June...common guys! I have a credit card and I'll show you the > money...but Show me the software! > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk From fmcpherson at mac.com Thu Jul 3 16:23:03 2003 From: fmcpherson at mac.com (Frank McPherson) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:18 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Where is it! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: It would be nice to get an update since they did promise WWDC. However, I would rather wait for a fully working product before they ship. Frank On Thursday, July 3, 2003, at 02:25 PM, Jonathan Kinney wrote: > I'm getting restless...I really want this software...I though it was > going to be released the Monday after WWDC. At least that is what we > were lead to believe. "There will be an early adopters version ready > for WWDC." Well it's now July 3 and we were promised the software in > June...common guys! I have a credit card and I'll show you the > money...but Show me the software! > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk From steve at maestrosteve.com Thu Jul 3 17:39:15 2003 From: steve at maestrosteve.com (Steve) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:18 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Delivering the software Message-ID: <69A6684C-AD96-11D7-9E8A-0003934AC9C4@maestrosteve.com> >> 1 July - early adopter program this month (pending all goes well, I >> assume). > > I thought you had said June before! It was even: > We can now say it will be in June (for sure). Olivier Don't you few mental geniuses realize that if the software is not shipping yet, that means it is not ready, not reliable, not bug free yet? So what if they originally said they would ship in June? I, for one, can wait until it is reliable and bug free. Do you think that getting on their case because they originally said it would be ready in June will make it ready faster? Don't you think these guys WANT to get the software out already so they can make money? By telling them "YOU SAID IT WOULD BE READY TO SHIP IN JUNE" is not going to help. It is already July. They know what they originally said, and they probably planned on making good on that statement, but it didn't happen. If you don't want to wait, then go someplace else, stop complaining and being a baby about it. Oliver, go whine somewhere else. To Markspace: Do the best you can to get us working, reliable software as soon as you can. Most of us appreciate the effort. Steve From rnmcrae at yahoo.com Thu Jul 3 15:15:31 2003 From: rnmcrae at yahoo.com (Bob) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:18 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Missing is the main word Message-ID: <20030703211531.70441.qmail@web9206.mail.yahoo.com> I bought this junk two months ago and realized the "no refund" statement was a warning. I have a Toshiba PPC e335 and it will not connect through Pocket Mac software. The promised fixes do not materialize but the charge to my credit card came thourgh in record time. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com From listmail at sattadesign.com Thu Jul 3 15:24:08 2003 From: listmail at sattadesign.com (jack) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:18 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] conflicts or duplicates? In-Reply-To: <200307031801.h63I1Ad09233@markspace.vps.fluidhosting.com> Message-ID: sorry if this was covered (just joined). what if i found a way (i haven't) to get my current data in Address Book/Calendar/Tasks, and hopefully, notes from my iSync config/Palm Tungsten T to my new Pocket PC. and i go to sync with the early beta/release version of Missing Sync? will it dupe, or will it know not to dupe? if so, it's something to consider. thanks, jack -also on digest, so if there's anything urgent (yeah, right) send directly. From os3476 at ithink.ch Fri Jul 4 01:10:59 2003 From: os3476 at ithink.ch (Olivier Scherler) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:18 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Delivering the software In-Reply-To: <69A6684C-AD96-11D7-9E8A-0003934AC9C4@maestrosteve.com> Message-ID: > If you don't want to wait, then go someplace else, stop complaining and > being a baby about it. Oliver, go whine somewhere else. Steve, If I subscribed to this list, it was to be informed about the upcoming product, without having to constantly monitor the web page. If it's delayed, fine, but I'd like to know if it's by a week, a month or if the people of Mark/Space don't know, which could mean even longer. The release date is directly linked to the amount of efforts I put in working around the numerous issues of PocketMac. I can live for another week without a reliable synchronization of my current data, but if I have to wait a month, then I'll look for a temporay solution in the meantime. Olivier (no typo) From brian_hall at markspace.com Thu Jul 3 16:33:48 2003 From: brian_hall at markspace.com (Brian Hall) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:18 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Re: Current state of things In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >The release date is directly linked to the amount of efforts I put in working >around the numerous issues of PocketMac. I can live for another week without a >reliable synchronization of my current data, but if I have to wait a >month, then >I'll look for a temporay solution in the meantime. We have decided to go straight to 1.0, which will be released July 16 at Macworld Expo. We will have an introductory price for the first 30 days (starting July 16). If someone just *has to have* a beta copy before July 16, and is willing to purchase it (we already have enough internal and external beta testers), we'd be open to selling a limited number of beta licenses before that time. (Part of it is we are still training the support people to handle this new product). The current limitations are that the manual is not complete and the iCal conduit has a few more obscure border conditions to handle before it is done. Both of these issues will be cleared before the 1.0 release on July 16. And frankly, given the experiences people have had with other products, we are not excited to sell anyone a copy until the iCal conduit is *completely* done. It just wouldn't be worth it. Brian -- _____________________________________________________________________ Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 540 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 Los Gatos, CA 95030 From jwick at meccorp.mec.edu Thu Jul 3 19:42:05 2003 From: jwick at meccorp.mec.edu (Jim Wick) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:18 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Re: Current state of things In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Brian Thanks for the update. I think just getting the word from you guys will help put people at ease. I am willing to wait for the 1.0 release. Do you have any pricing information other than the introductory price you mentioned Thanks Jim in the meantime. > > We have decided to go straight to 1.0, which will be released July 16 at > Macworld Expo. > > We will have an introductory price for the first 30 days (starting July 16). > > If someone just *has to have* a beta copy before July 16, and is willing to > purchase it (we already have enough internal and external beta testers), > we'd be open to selling a limited number of beta licenses before that time. > (Part of it is we are still training the support people to handle this new > product). The current limitations are that the manual is not complete and > the iCal conduit has a few more obscure border conditions to handle before > it is done. Both of these issues will be cleared before the 1.0 release on > July 16. And frankly, given the experiences people have had with other > products, we are not excited to sell anyone a copy until the iCal conduit > is *completely* done. It just wouldn't be worth it. > > Brian From jwick at meccorp.mec.edu Thu Jul 3 21:29:55 2003 From: jwick at meccorp.mec.edu (Jim Wick) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:18 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: This has probably been covered before, if so I apologize but will 1.0 support the Pocket PC 2003 platforms. Specifically I have an Ipaq 5555 Thanks Jim From brian_hall at markspace.com Thu Jul 3 19:19:17 2003 From: brian_hall at markspace.com (Brian Hall) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:18 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >This has probably been covered before, if so I apologize but will 1.0 >support the Pocket PC 2003 platforms. Specifically I have an Ipaq 5555 We will be testing that next week. If it requires code level changes, it won't be part of the 1.0 release, and would have to wait for a subsequent release - we did all of our development/testing over the past months with Pocket PC/SmartPhone 2002 devices - see http://www.markspace.com/pocketpc_supported.html for the currently tested devices. Brian -- _____________________________________________________________________ Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 540 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 Los Gatos, CA 95030 From noj at noj.port5.com Thu Jul 3 22:38:49 2003 From: noj at noj.port5.com (Jonathan Zacks) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:18 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Delivering the software In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <42B4D6B9-ADC0-11D7-9A4C-000393C77EBC@noj.port5.com> Good points, that guy Steve just made a fool of himself trying to attack you and brown nose up to Mark/Space. Also, I truly appreciate your "no typo" addition regarding your name. Is it that hard to actually type someone's name correctly? --Jonathan On Thursday, July 3, 2003, at 06:10 PM, Olivier Scherler wrote: >> If you don't want to wait, then go someplace else, stop complaining >> and >> being a baby about it. Oliver, go whine somewhere else. > > Steve, > > If I subscribed to this list, it was to be informed about the upcoming > product, > without having to constantly monitor the web page. If it's delayed, > fine, but > I'd like to know if it's by a week, a month or if the people of > Mark/Space don't > know, which could mean even longer. > > The release date is directly linked to the amount of efforts I put in > working > around the numerous issues of PocketMac. I can live for another week > without a > reliable synchronization of my current data, but if I have to wait a > month, then > I'll look for a temporay solution in the meantime. > > Olivier (no typo) > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > From noj at noj.port5.com Thu Jul 3 22:49:07 2003 From: noj at noj.port5.com (Jonathan Zacks) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:18 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Delivering the software In-Reply-To: <42B4D6B9-ADC0-11D7-9A4C-000393C77EBC@noj.port5.com> Message-ID: okay, didn't mean to send that to the whole list. i'm a bad person. i definitely didn't mean to start a flame war or something, so please direct any and all attacks directly to me so this email list doesn't suffer. =( --jonathan From ahampton at mail.sirinet.net Thu Jul 3 21:24:30 2003 From: ahampton at mail.sirinet.net (Allan Hampton) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:18 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Re: Current state of things In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20030704022314.M27785@mail.sirinet.net> Hello, I would Like to buy a beta copy......... Allan Hampton 580-280-0016 ahampton@sirinet.net On Thu, 3 Jul 2003 15:33:48 -0700, Brian Hall wrote > >The release date is directly linked to the amount of efforts I put in working > >around the numerous issues of PocketMac. I can live for another week without a > >reliable synchronization of my current data, but if I have to wait a > >month, then > >I'll look for a temporay solution in the meantime. > > We have decided to go straight to 1.0, which will be released July > 16 at Macworld Expo. > > We will have an introductory price for the first 30 days (starting > July 16). > > If someone just *has to have* a beta copy before July 16, and is > willing to purchase it (we already have enough internal and external > beta testers), we'd be open to selling a limited number of beta > licenses before that time. > (Part of it is we are still training the support people to handle > this new product). The current limitations are that the manual is > not complete and the iCal conduit has a few more obscure border > conditions to handle before it is done. Both of these issues will be > cleared before the 1.0 release on July 16. And frankly, given the > experiences people have had with other products, we are not excited > to sell anyone a copy until the iCal conduit is *completely* done. > It just wouldn't be worth it. > > Brian > > -- > ___________________________________________________________________ __ > Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 > 540 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 > Los Gatos, CA 95030 > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > be found at: http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing- > sync-pocketpc-talk -- Open WebMail Project (http://openwebmail.org) From steve at maestrosteve.com Fri Jul 4 01:07:50 2003 From: steve at maestrosteve.com (Steve) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:18 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Whiners Message-ID: <13E31DDB-ADD5-11D7-9E8A-0003934AC9C4@maestrosteve.com> > Good points, that guy Steve just made a fool of himself trying to > attack you and brown nose up to Mark/Space. I don't know Mark/Space, don't owe them anything. There's no software available that works like the kind that they are trying to get out there. If I owned the company, would you want to piss me off? I didn't see any good point in his reply. What was it? A threat to go somewhere else if the software is not ready in a week? How did he live with his Pocket PC device up until now? I own PocketMac, and certainly would prefer a better, more reliable solution, but I'll tell you from experience, that getting on the case of these people at Mark/Space gets you nowhere. Any idea how many unsatisfied customers got on the case of the PocketMac people? Has it gotten them reliable software? > Is it that hard to actually type someone's name correctly? > --Jonathan > Whenever someone has nothing really to say, nothing constructive to add, they comment on someone's spelling. Now with the correct spelling. OLIVIER, you still sound like a whiner, and now YOU have a brown noser in Jonathan. > I can live for another week > without a > reliable synchronization of my current data, but if I have to wait a > month, then > I'll look for a temporay solution in the meantime. If it wasn't for M/S, your temporary solution would be a permanent one. Yeah, it's annoying to wait, we're all impatient, and I want the software as much as the next guy. As long as you threatened to go somewhere else for a temporary solution, why don't you let us know where that is? Face it, there is none, if you want to use a Pocket PC. Other than Pocketmac, there is no place else to go. All I ever see on this list are questions, which M/S answers, and then negative comments on the answers from few on this list. I also get this list to find out the latest info without going to their website, but owning a computer makes me take all release dates for software with a grain of salt. I'll be at MacWorld Expo on July 17th, and if it is released there, then great, but I'll believe it when I see it. I'm done venting. If you 2 guys don't like it, then it's just tough. To the people with questions, ideas, and constructive comments, you have my respect. Steve On Thursday, July 3, 2003, at 06:10 PM, Olivier Scherler wrote: >> If you don't want to wait, then go someplace else, stop complaining >> and >> being a baby about it. Oliver, go whine somewhere else. > > Steve, > > If I subscribed to this list, it was to be informed about the upcoming > product, > without having to constantly monitor the web page. If it's delayed, > fine, but > I'd like to know if it's by a week, a month or if the people of > Mark/Space don't > know, which could mean even longer. > > The release date is directly linked to the amount of efforts I put in > working > around the numerous issues of PocketMac. I can live for another week > without a > reliable synchronization of my current data, but if I have to wait a > month, then > I'll look for a temporay solution in the meantime. > > Olivier (no typo) From JMFII at aol.com Fri Jul 4 01:36:06 2003 From: JMFII at aol.com (JMFII@aol.com) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:18 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] beta ASAP Message-ID: <54.14e16a65.2c365e36@aol.com> I am very interested in getting the beta version of missing sync for pocket pc ASAP.? I have an Ipag 3870 with blue tooth and Imac 800 g4.? My credit card is ready.? Let me know what I need to do. thanks John Freeman From rutkowskij2008 at hvgs.nsw.edu.au Fri Jul 4 16:39:15 2003 From: rutkowskij2008 at hvgs.nsw.edu.au (RUTKOWSKIJ2008) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:18 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Why can't microsoft develop the software? Message-ID: <299950755.2271488287.872@mail.mail-safe.org> Wait guys!!! We shouldn't be on these guys backs to develop the software quicker!!! Microsoft thought of the pocket pc, so shouldn't they be responsible!!! (In other words, we should be on microsofts backs, not these guys, they are just trying to be nice to the world of mac users!!! Don't push it!!!) Jeffro From robin at moneypit.demon.co.uk Fri Jul 4 08:19:32 2003 From: robin at moneypit.demon.co.uk (Robin Jackson) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:18 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Re: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk Digest, Vol 5, Issue 25 In-Reply-To: <200307031801.h63I1Ad09217@markspace.vps.fluidhosting.com> Message-ID: On 3/7/03 19:01, "missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-request@lists.markspace.com" wrote: >> Is there any chance you will do a 'Missing Sync' for the Sony Ericsson P800 >> mobile phone/pda? > > Others on this list have reported that iSync has some limited support for > the P800 - give that a try. > > If that is true (and I presume it is) it wouldn't make sense for us to do a > Missing Sync for P800, even if it would be better. Too hard to compete with > free. Hi Yes there is some limited support. This will never support Entourage (something I need), does not allow me to install software, backup the phone to the Mac, put picture and sounds onto the phone or in fact do anything other than swap names and telephone numbers with Address Book. It is VERY limited and I would be more than happy to pay for Missing Sync for P800 to get more of the functionality I have had in the past from Missing Sync for Clie. Robin From stevepa at attbi.com Fri Jul 4 00:21:56 2003 From: stevepa at attbi.com (Steve Palmer) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:18 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Why can't microsoft develop thesoftware? References: <299950755.2271488287.872@mail.mail-safe.org> Message-ID: <008301c341f4$9398dbc0$1a02a8c0@ector> No we shouldn't. ----- Original Message ----- From: "RUTKOWSKIJ2008" To: Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 10:39 PM Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Why can't microsoft develop thesoftware? > Wait guys!!! > > We shouldn't be on these guys backs to develop the software quicker!!! > > Microsoft thought of the pocket pc, so shouldn't they be responsible!!! > > (In other words, we should be on microsofts backs, not these guys, they are just trying to be nice to the world of mac users!!! Don't push it!!!) > > Jeffro > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk From Mikekerrnew at aol.com Fri Jul 4 06:08:38 2003 From: Mikekerrnew at aol.com (Mikekerrnew@aol.com) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:18 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Re: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk Digest, Vol 6, Issue 3 Message-ID: <1d8.d3f6c77.2c369e16@aol.com> Hi Brian, I, for one, would like to purchase a beta now (if the price is right) - and then get the free upgrade in a couple of weeks as originally planned. Even if there's still a couple of iCal issues. Could we have the option? In an earlier post, I think you suggested there was no reason it wouldn't work with avantgo. Can you confirm this is the case? Best wishes, Mike From Laetitia.Agostini at ib.unil.ch Fri Jul 4 12:46:54 2003 From: Laetitia.Agostini at ib.unil.ch (laetitia agostini) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:18 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Information about the availibility of the beta version Message-ID: Hi everybody, I just want to know if this is possible to buy a version of this programm? If it is possible can you confirm me the website address. Thanks Laetitia From plainsong at mac.com Fri Jul 4 16:11:49 2003 From: plainsong at mac.com (Kimberly Ruohio) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:18 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] What if your device isn't on the list? In-Reply-To: <200307031800.h63I0Td08875@markspace.vps.fluidhosting.com> Message-ID: If you have a PocketPC 2002 device that isn't on the list, is there anyway to test compatibility _before_ buying it? I have the ole standby Jornada 568, but it's not on the list... and I want to get the Ipaq 2215 but of course being a PPC2003 device it's not on the list either. I just hope you release some kind of demo because otherwise this is going to suck the same way Pocketmac sucked. :( Kim From kortenkamp at cinderella.de Fri Jul 4 16:18:03 2003 From: kortenkamp at cinderella.de (Ulrich Kortenkamp) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:18 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] What if your device isn't on the list? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Freitag, 4. Juli 2003, at 14:11 Uhr, Kimberly Ruohio wrote: > I just hope you release some kind of demo because otherwise this is > going to suck the same way Pocketmac sucked. :( > It's for sure that I will not buy anyhing again without having a proper demo version to test it before. Put out a version that will sync 15 times and then refuses to work, or something similar. Ulli From ivanpetrovitch at mac.com Fri Jul 4 11:43:56 2003 From: ivanpetrovitch at mac.com (Ivan Petrovitch) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:18 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Early Adopter Release... Message-ID: Dear Brian, I have been using your MissingSync software for the Mac now for some time. It is without a doubt a wonderful program! Kudos to you and the team. Having said that, I recently switched jobs and my employer has given me, and requires the use of, a PocketPC. It's a Toshiba e330, a nice little handheld. My question is: When can we expect the "Early Adopter Release" that you mentioned on your website? I'm ready to beta test, (although I know that you said it's not an option), and I'm ready to be an early adopter! Thanks, Ivan From zerosix at mac.com Fri Jul 4 10:56:49 2003 From: zerosix at mac.com (Tyler Book) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:18 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Audiovox Thera / Toshiba 2032SP In-Reply-To: <200307041444.h64EiMd09647@markspace.vps.fluidhosting.com> Message-ID: I have the Toshiba2032SP also known as the Audiovox Thera and this device is not on the list. I agree that I should have access to a **working** demo to see if this device works with Missing Sync, even if the demo is limited to 5 syncs or something lame like that. Brian, what do you think? the build of this device is: version 3.0.11171 build 11178 On Friday, July 4, 2003, at 09:44 AM, missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-request@lists.markspace.com wrote: > Send missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list submissions to > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-request@lists.markspace.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-owner@lists.markspace.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of missing-sync-pocketpc-talk digest..." > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > _______________________________________________ > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Delivering the software (Jonathan Zacks) > 2. Re: Re: Current state of things (Allan Hampton) > 3. Whiners (Steve) > 4. beta ASAP > 5. Why can't microsoft develop the > software? (RUTKOWSKIJ2008) > 6. > Re: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk Digest, Vol 5, Issue 25 > (Robin Jackson) > 7. Re: Why can't microsoft develop > thesoftware? (Steve Palmer) > 8. > Re: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk Digest, Vol 6, Issue 3 > 9. > Information about the availibility of the beta version > (laetitia agostini) > 10. What if your device isn't on the list? (Kimberly Ruohio) > 11. Re: What if your device isn't on the > list? (Ulrich Kortenkamp) > 12. Early Adopter Release... (Ivan Petrovitch) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 21:49:07 -0400 > From: Jonathan Zacks > To: "The Missing Sync (Mac/Pocket PC)" > > Subject: Re: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Delivering the software > Message-ID: > In-Reply-To: <42B4D6B9-ADC0-11D7-9A4C-000393C77EBC@noj.port5.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Precedence: list > Reply-To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Pocket PC\)" > > Message: 1 > > okay, didn't mean to send that to the whole list. > i'm a bad person. > i definitely didn't mean to start a flame war or something, so please > direct any and all attacks directly to me so this email list doesn't > suffer. > =( > --jonathan > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 20:24:30 -0600 > From: "Allan Hampton" > To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Pocket PC\)" > > Subject: Re: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Re: Current state of things > Message-ID: <20030704022314.M27785@mail.sirinet.net> > In-Reply-To: > References: > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Precedence: list > Reply-To: ahampton@sirinet.net, "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Pocket PC\)" > > Message: 2 > > Hello, > > I would Like to buy a beta copy......... > > Allan Hampton > 580-280-0016 > ahampton@sirinet.net > > > > > > On Thu, 3 Jul 2003 15:33:48 -0700, Brian Hall wrote >>> The release date is directly linked to the amount of efforts I put >>> in working >>> around the numerous issues of PocketMac. I can live for another week >>> without a >>> reliable synchronization of my current data, but if I have to wait a >>> month, then >>> I'll look for a temporay solution in the meantime. >> >> We have decided to go straight to 1.0, which will be released July >> 16 at Macworld Expo. >> >> We will have an introductory price for the first 30 days (starting >> July 16). >> >> If someone just *has to have* a beta copy before July 16, and is >> willing to purchase it (we already have enough internal and external >> beta testers), we'd be open to selling a limited number of beta >> licenses before that time. >> (Part of it is we are still training the support people to handle >> this new product). The current limitations are that the manual is >> not complete and the iCal conduit has a few more obscure border >> conditions to handle before it is done. Both of these issues will be >> cleared before the 1.0 release on July 16. And frankly, given the >> experiences people have had with other products, we are not excited >> to sell anyone a copy until the iCal conduit is *completely* done. >> It just wouldn't be worth it. >> >> Brian >> >> -- >> > ___________________________________________________________________ > __ >> Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 >> 540 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 >> Los Gatos, CA 95030 >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com >> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can >> be found at: http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing- >> sync-pocketpc-talk > > > > -- > Open WebMail Project (http://openwebmail.org) > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 00:07:50 -0400 > From: Steve > To: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Whiners > Message-ID: <13E31DDB-ADD5-11D7-9E8A-0003934AC9C4@maestrosteve.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Precedence: list > Reply-To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Pocket PC\)" > > Message: 3 > >> Good points, that guy Steve just made a fool of himself trying to >> attack you and brown nose up to Mark/Space. > > I don't know Mark/Space, don't owe them anything. There's no software > available that works like the kind that they are trying to get out > there. If I owned the company, would you want to piss me off? > > I didn't see any good point in his reply. What was it? A threat to go > somewhere else if the software is not ready in a week? > How did he live with his Pocket PC device up until now? > I own PocketMac, and certainly would prefer a better, more reliable > solution, but I'll tell you from experience, that getting on the case > of these people at Mark/Space gets you nowhere. Any idea how many > unsatisfied customers got on the case of the PocketMac people? Has it > gotten them reliable software? > > >> Is it that hard to actually type someone's name correctly? >> --Jonathan >> > Whenever someone has nothing really to say, nothing constructive to > add, they comment on someone's spelling. > Now with the correct spelling. OLIVIER, you still sound like a whiner, > and now YOU have a brown noser in Jonathan. > >> I can live for another week >> without a >> reliable synchronization of my current data, but if I have to wait a >> month, then >> I'll look for a temporay solution in the meantime. > > If it wasn't for M/S, your temporary solution would be a permanent one. > Yeah, it's annoying to wait, we're all impatient, and I want the > software as much as the next guy. > > As long as you threatened to go somewhere else for a temporary > solution, why don't you let us know where that is? > Face it, there is none, if you want to use a Pocket PC. Other than > Pocketmac, there is no place else to go. > All I ever see on this list are questions, which M/S answers, and then > negative comments on the answers from few on this list. > I also get this list to find out the latest info without going to their > website, but owning a computer makes me take all release dates for > software with a grain of salt. I'll be at MacWorld Expo on July 17th, > and if it is released there, then great, but I'll believe it when I see > it. I'm done venting. If you 2 guys don't like it, then it's just > tough. > > > To the people with questions, ideas, and constructive comments, you > have my respect. > > Steve > > > > > On Thursday, July 3, 2003, at 06:10 PM, Olivier Scherler wrote: > >>> If you don't want to wait, then go someplace else, stop complaining >>> and >>> being a baby about it. Oliver, go whine somewhere else. >> >> Steve, >> >> If I subscribed to this list, it was to be informed about the upcoming >> product, >> without having to constantly monitor the web page. If it's delayed, >> fine, but >> I'd like to know if it's by a week, a month or if the people of >> Mark/Space don't >> know, which could mean even longer. >> >> The release date is directly linked to the amount of efforts I put in >> working >> around the numerous issues of PocketMac. I can live for another week >> without a >> reliable synchronization of my current data, but if I have to wait a >> month, then >> I'll look for a temporay solution in the meantime. >> >> Olivier (no typo) > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 00:36:06 EDT > From: JMFII@aol.com > To: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] beta ASAP > Message-ID: <54.14e16a65.2c365e36@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Precedence: list > Reply-To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Pocket PC\)" > > Message: 4 > > I am very interested in getting the beta version of missing sync for > pocket=20 > pc ASAP.=A0 I have an Ipag 3870 with blue tooth and Imac 800 g4.=A0 My > credi= > t card=20 > is ready.=A0 Let me know what I need to do. > thanks > John Freeman > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 15:39:15 +1000 > From: RUTKOWSKIJ2008 > To: "missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com" > > Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Why can't microsoft develop the > software? > Message-ID: <299950755.2271488287.872@mail.mail-safe.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Precedence: list > Reply-To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Pocket PC\)" > > Message: 5 > > Wait guys!!! > > We shouldn't be on these guys backs to develop the software quicker!!! > > Microsoft thought of the pocket pc, so shouldn't they be responsible!!! > > (In other words, we should be on microsofts backs, not these guys, > they are just trying to be nice to the world of mac users!!! Don't > push it!!!) > > Jeffro > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2003 07:19:32 +0100 > From: Robin Jackson > To: > Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] > Re: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk Digest, Vol 5, Issue 25 > Message-ID: > In-Reply-To: <200307031801.h63I1Ad09217@markspace.vps.fluidhosting.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Precedence: list > Reply-To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Pocket PC\)" > > Message: 6 > > On 3/7/03 19:01, > "missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-request@lists.markspace.com" > wrote: > >>> Is there any chance you will do a 'Missing Sync' for the Sony >>> Ericsson P800 >>> mobile phone/pda? >> >> Others on this list have reported that iSync has some limited support >> for >> the P800 - give that a try. >> >> If that is true (and I presume it is) it wouldn't make sense for us >> to do a >> Missing Sync for P800, even if it would be better. Too hard to >> compete with >> free. > > Hi > > Yes there is some limited support. > > This will never support Entourage (something I need), does not allow > me to > install software, backup the phone to the Mac, put picture and sounds > onto > the phone or in fact do anything other than swap names and telephone > numbers > with Address Book. > > It is VERY limited and I would be more than happy to pay for Missing > Sync > for P800 to get more of the functionality I have had in the past from > Missing Sync for Clie. > > Robin > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 23:21:56 -0700 > From: "Steve Palmer" > To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Pocket PC\)" > > Subject: Re: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Why can't microsoft develop > thesoftware? > Message-ID: <008301c341f4$9398dbc0$1a02a8c0@ector> > References: <299950755.2271488287.872@mail.mail-safe.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Precedence: list > Reply-To: Steve Palmer , "The Missing Sync > \(Mac/Pocket > PC\)" > Message: 7 > > No we shouldn't. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "RUTKOWSKIJ2008" > To: > Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 10:39 PM > Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Why can't microsoft develop > thesoftware? > > >> Wait guys!!! >> >> We shouldn't be on these guys backs to develop the software quicker!!! >> >> Microsoft thought of the pocket pc, so shouldn't they be >> responsible!!! >> >> (In other words, we should be on microsofts backs, not these guys, >> they > are just trying to be nice to the world of mac users!!! Don't push > it!!!) >> >> Jeffro >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com >> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can >> be > found at: >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 05:08:38 EDT > From: Mikekerrnew@aol.com > To: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] > Re: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk Digest, Vol 6, Issue 3 > Message-ID: <1d8.d3f6c77.2c369e16@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Precedence: list > Reply-To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Pocket PC\)" > > Message: 8 > > Hi Brian, I, for one, would like to purchase a beta now (if the price > is > right) - and then get the free upgrade in a couple of weeks as > originally planned. > Even if there's still a couple of iCal issues. Could we have the > option? > In an earlier post, I think you suggested there was no reason it > wouldn't > work with avantgo. Can you confirm this is the case? Best wishes, > Mike > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2003 11:46:54 +0200 > From: laetitia agostini > To: > Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] > Information about the availibility of the beta version > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Precedence: list > Reply-To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Pocket PC\)" > > Message: 9 > > Hi everybody, > I just want to know if this is possible to buy a version of this > programm? > If it is possible can you confirm me the website address. > Thanks > Laetitia > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 15:11:49 +0300 > From: Kimberly Ruohio > To: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] What if your device isn't on the > list? > Message-ID: > In-Reply-To: <200307031800.h63I0Td08875@markspace.vps.fluidhosting.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Precedence: list > Reply-To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Pocket PC\)" > > Message: 10 > > If you have a PocketPC 2002 device that isn't on the list, is there > anyway to test compatibility _before_ buying it? I have the ole standby > Jornada 568, but it's not on the list... and I want to get the Ipaq > 2215 but of course being a PPC2003 device it's not on the list either. > > I just hope you release some kind of demo because otherwise this is > going to suck the same way Pocketmac sucked. :( > > Kim > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 15:18:03 +0200 > From: Ulrich Kortenkamp > To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Pocket PC\)" > > Subject: Re: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] What if your device isn't on > the > list? > Message-ID: > In-Reply-To: > References: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v578) > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Precedence: list > Reply-To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Pocket PC\)" > > Message: 11 > > On Freitag, 4. Juli 2003, at 14:11 Uhr, Kimberly Ruohio wrote: > >> I just hope you release some kind of demo because otherwise this is >> going to suck the same way Pocketmac sucked. :( >> > > It's for sure that I will not buy anyhing again without having a proper > demo version to test it before. Put out a version that will sync 15 > times and then refuses to work, or something similar. > > Ulli > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 10:43:56 -0400 > From: Ivan Petrovitch > To: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Early Adopter Release... > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Precedence: list > Reply-To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Pocket PC\)" > > Message: 12 > > > Dear Brian, > > I have been using your MissingSync software for the Mac now for some > time. It is without a doubt a wonderful program! Kudos to you and the > team. > > Having said that, I recently switched jobs and my employer has given > me, and requires the use of, a PocketPC. It's a Toshiba e330, a nice > little handheld. My question is: When can we expect the "Early Adopter > Release" that you mentioned on your website? I'm ready to beta test, > (although I know that you said it's not an option), and I'm ready to be > an early adopter! > > Thanks, > Ivan > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > > End of missing-sync-pocketpc-talk Digest, Vol 6, Issue 4 > ******************************************************** From wojcicki at ccm.screg.fr Fri Jul 4 18:10:55 2003 From: wojcicki at ccm.screg.fr (Wojcicki Christian) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:18 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] What if your device isn't on the list? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I have a Q tek Smartphone (Pocket PC Phone edition) I agree that Pocketmac is not working... Waiting for a demo version of missing synk Le vendredi, 4 jul 2003, ? 15:18 Europe/Paris, Ulrich Kortenkamp a ?crit : > On Freitag, 4. Juli 2003, at 14:11 Uhr, Kimberly Ruohio wrote: > >> I just hope you release some kind of demo because otherwise this is >> going to suck the same way Pocketmac sucked. :( >> > > It's for sure that I will not buy anyhing again without having a > proper demo version to test it before. Put out a version that will > sync 15 times and then refuses to work, or something similar. > > Ulli > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > Wojcicki From fmcpherson at mac.com Fri Jul 4 12:19:40 2003 From: fmcpherson at mac.com (Frank McPherson) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:18 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] What if your device isn't on the list? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: FWIW, all the Pocket PC 2002 devices have the same basic, underlying software and databases for PIM. I think the fact that a device is not on the supported list has more to do with the fact that Markspace doesn't have devices to test rather than that the devices absolutely won't work. The only thing that is device specific are the hardware connections to the PC/Mac, since it seems that the different hardware manufacturers can't seem to all consistently implement USB. One way that Markspace could mitigate the compatibility risk is to support infrared, network, or Bluetooth synchronization. Infrared and networking are much more robust communication protocols that should be implemented the same across all devices, I would expect any synchronization product to work using them. (I am new to the Mac world, so I don't know whether you can get infrared ports for Macs.) Bluetooth is probably implemented about as well as USB, so that one could have as much hit or miss as USB. Frank From TDefriez at cs.com Fri Jul 4 12:29:17 2003 From: TDefriez at cs.com (TDefriez@cs.com) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:18 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Re: Current state of things Message-ID: <144.14c503da.2c36f74d@cs.com> Brian I am happy to take a pre-release of the software and can help you test this on both of the following: - Compaq iPAQ 3975 (BT equipt) (I'll check the build no. but I have kept it up-to-date) - HP 2215 (BT equipt) (PocketPC 2003) I currently run a G4 15" Powerbook (100Mhz version) with BT. I notice you currently have not decided on BT support - I think this is as needed as much as the Entourage conduit as it 'saves' me another cable when I'm traveling (which I do a lot). With iPod and laptop I already carry to many cables. I'll willingly pay but would prefer, like a lot of others who have posted recently, to see a limited demo version. I too got burnt by Pocketmac and would like to test before paying over any money. PocketMac works after a style but contiunally generate duplicates of some calender events - I hope you fixed such issues on Missing Sync for PocketPC. Is the support fully the same as for Missing Sync for Clie (tried living with Palm for awhile recently but reverted back to PocketPC due to OS not sync issues), if so I'll be happy. Long term I wish to see the Entourage conduit but can live with iCal etc. for the short term. Pl From brian_hall at markspace.com Fri Jul 4 10:12:57 2003 From: brian_hall at markspace.com (Brian Hall) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:18 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Early Adopter Release... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >Having said that, I recently switched jobs and my employer has given >me, and requires the use of, a PocketPC. It's a Toshiba e330, a nice >little handheld. My question is: When can we expect the "Early Adopter >Release" that you mentioned on your website? I'm ready to beta test, >(although I know that you said it's not an option), and I'm ready to be >an early adopter! The 1.0 release is scheduled for July 16, at our booth, at Macworld NY. It will be available for sale at store.markspace.com starting from that time. Brian -- _____________________________________________________________________ Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 540 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 Los Gatos, CA 95030 From rnmcrae at yahoo.com Fri Jul 4 11:56:43 2003 From: rnmcrae at yahoo.com (Bob) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:18 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Education Message-ID: <20030704175643.98461.qmail@web9205.mail.yahoo.com> Lets face it. We have been scammed with this so called software. It simply does not work and the fixes don't fix and the ship dates don't ship. The good side is the cost for the education is a lot less than an hour at UCLA. You got to love the fact that they still exist. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com From mark at marksrebnikarchitect.com Fri Jul 4 15:24:19 2003 From: mark at marksrebnikarchitect.com (Mark Srebnik) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:18 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Education In-Reply-To: <20030704175643.98461.qmail@web9205.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Next stop planet Earth, Bob!! How could we be scammed yet, since the software hasn't been released yet! So how could it not work and the fixes don't fix? As for the ship dates...if you understood the complexities of developing software you'd know that it's not like making sausage... Mark Longtime & Happy MissingSync for Clie User on 7/4/03 10:56 AM, Bob at rnmcrae@yahoo.com wrote: > Lets face it. We have been scammed with this so > called software. It simply does not work and the > fixes don't fix and the ship dates don't ship. The > good side is the cost for the education is a lot less > than an hour at UCLA. You got to love the fact that > they still exist. From manuelplascencia at hotmail.com Fri Jul 4 16:41:16 2003 From: manuelplascencia at hotmail.com (manny p) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:18 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Stop Whinning Message-ID: You guys need to stop whinning , it will be available to you people when it is complete, not a day sooner. Its well worth the wait : ) >From: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-request@lists.markspace.com >Reply-To: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com >To: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com >Subject: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk Digest, Vol 6, Issue 3 >Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 21:39:25 -0400 > >Send missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list submissions to > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-request@lists.markspace.com > >You can reach the person managing the list at > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-owner@lists.markspace.com > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of missing-sync-pocketpc-talk digest..." > > >_______________________________________________ >missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list >missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com >Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be >found at: >http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk >_______________________________________________ > >Today's Topics: > > 1. Where is it! (Jonathan Kinney) > 2. Re: Where is it! (Jim Wick) > 3. Re: Where is it! (Frank McPherson) > 4. Delivering the software (Steve) > 5. Missing is the main word (Bob) > 6. conflicts or duplicates? (jack) > 7. Re: Delivering the software (Olivier Scherler) > 8. Re: Current state of things (Brian Hall) > 9. Re: Re: Current state of things (Jim Wick) > 10. Question (Jim Wick) > 11. Re: Question (Brian Hall) > 12. Re: Delivering the software (Jonathan Zacks) > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 13:25:56 -0500 >From: Jonathan Kinney >To: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com >Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Where is it! >Message-ID: >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed >MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Precedence: list >Reply-To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Pocket PC\)" > >Message: 1 > >I'm getting restless...I really want this software...I though it was >going to be released the Monday after WWDC. At least that is what we >were lead to believe. "There will be an early adopters version ready >for WWDC." Well it's now July 3 and we were promised the software in >June...common guys! I have a credit card and I'll show you the >money...but Show me the software! > >------------------------------ > >Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2003 14:39:50 -0400 >From: Jim Wick >To: "The Missing Sync (Mac/Pocket PC)" > >Subject: Re: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Where is it! >Message-ID: >In-Reply-To: >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Precedence: list >Reply-To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Pocket PC\)" > >Message: 2 > >Well, their website says that it will be released by MacWorld in July. The >things that I am concerned about is that they have not set a price yet for >it. They are continuing to make some of the marketing mistakes that >PocketMac did. > >On 7/3/03 2:25 PM, "Jonathan Kinney" wrote: > > > I'm getting restless...I really want this software...I though it was > > going to be released the Monday after WWDC. At least that is what we > > were lead to believe. "There will be an early adopters version ready > > for WWDC." Well it's now July 3 and we were promised the software in > > June...common guys! I have a credit card and I'll show you the > > money...but Show me the software! > > > > _______________________________________________ > > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be >found > > at: > > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > >------------------------------ > >Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 15:23:03 -0400 >From: Frank McPherson >To: "The Missing Sync (Mac/Pocket PC)" > >Subject: Re: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Where is it! >Message-ID: >In-Reply-To: >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed >MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Precedence: list >Reply-To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Pocket PC\)" > >Message: 3 > >It would be nice to get an update since they did promise WWDC. However, >I would rather wait for a fully working product before they ship. > >Frank > >On Thursday, July 3, 2003, at 02:25 PM, Jonathan Kinney wrote: > > > I'm getting restless...I really want this software...I though it was > > going to be released the Monday after WWDC. At least that is what we > > were lead to believe. "There will be an early adopters version ready > > for WWDC." Well it's now July 3 and we were promised the software in > > June...common guys! I have a credit card and I'll show you the > > money...but Show me the software! > > > > _______________________________________________ > > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > > be found at: > > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > >------------------------------ > >Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 16:39:15 -0400 >From: Steve >To: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com >Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Delivering the software >Message-ID: <69A6684C-AD96-11D7-9E8A-0003934AC9C4@maestrosteve.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed >MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Precedence: list >Reply-To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Pocket PC\)" > >Message: 4 > > > > >> 1 July - early adopter program this month (pending all goes well, I > >> assume). > > > > I thought you had said June before! > >It was even: > > > We can now say it will be in June (for sure). > >Olivier > > > > >Don't you few mental geniuses realize that if the software is not >shipping yet, that means it is not ready, not reliable, not bug free >yet? > >So what if they originally said they would ship in June? > >I, for one, can wait until it is reliable and bug free. Do you think >that getting on their case because they originally said it would be >ready in June will make it ready faster? Don't you think these guys >WANT to get the software out already so they can make money? By >telling them "YOU SAID IT WOULD BE READY TO SHIP IN JUNE" is not going >to help. It is already July. They know what they originally said, and >they probably planned on making good on that statement, but it didn't >happen. > >If you don't want to wait, then go someplace else, stop complaining and >being a baby about it. Oliver, go whine somewhere else. > >To Markspace: >Do the best you can to get us working, reliable software as soon as you >can. Most of us appreciate the effort. > > >Steve > >------------------------------ > >Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 14:15:31 -0700 (PDT) >From: Bob >To: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com >Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Missing is the main word >Message-ID: <20030703211531.70441.qmail@web9206.mail.yahoo.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Precedence: list >Reply-To: mcraes@mac.com, "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Pocket PC\)" > >Message: 5 > >I bought this junk two months ago and realized the "no >refund" statement was a warning. I have a Toshiba PPC >e335 and it will not connect through Pocket Mac >software. The promised fixes do not materialize but >the charge to my credit card came thourgh in record time. > >__________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! >http://sbc.yahoo.com >------------------------------ > >Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 14:24:08 -0700 >From: jack >To: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com >Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] conflicts or duplicates? >Message-ID: >In-Reply-To: <200307031801.h63I1Ad09233@markspace.vps.fluidhosting.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed >MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Precedence: list >Reply-To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Pocket PC\)" > >Message: 6 > >sorry if this was covered (just joined). > >what if i found a way (i haven't) to get my current data in Address >Book/Calendar/Tasks, and hopefully, notes from my iSync config/Palm >Tungsten T to my new Pocket PC. and i go to sync with the early >beta/release version of Missing Sync? will it dupe, or will it know not >to dupe? if so, it's something to consider. > >thanks, >jack > >-also on digest, so if there's anything urgent (yeah, right) send >directly. > >------------------------------ > >Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 00:10:59 +0200 >From: Olivier Scherler >To: The Missing Sync >Subject: Re: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Delivering the software >Message-ID: >In-Reply-To: <69A6684C-AD96-11D7-9E8A-0003934AC9C4@maestrosteve.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Precedence: list >Reply-To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Pocket PC\)" > >Message: 7 > > > If you don't want to wait, then go someplace else, stop complaining and > > being a baby about it. Oliver, go whine somewhere else. > >Steve, > >If I subscribed to this list, it was to be informed about the upcoming >product, >without having to constantly monitor the web page. If it's delayed, fine, >but >I'd like to know if it's by a week, a month or if the people of Mark/Space >don't >know, which could mean even longer. > >The release date is directly linked to the amount of efforts I put in >working >around the numerous issues of PocketMac. I can live for another week >without a >reliable synchronization of my current data, but if I have to wait a month, >then >I'll look for a temporay solution in the meantime. > >Olivier (no typo) >------------------------------ > >Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 15:33:48 -0700 >From: Brian Hall >To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Pocket PC\)" > >Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Re: Current state of things >Message-ID: >In-Reply-To: >References: >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Precedence: list >Reply-To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Pocket PC\)" > >Message: 8 > > >The release date is directly linked to the amount of efforts I put in >working > >around the numerous issues of PocketMac. I can live for another week >without a > >reliable synchronization of my current data, but if I have to wait a > >month, then > >I'll look for a temporay solution in the meantime. > >We have decided to go straight to 1.0, which will be released July 16 at >Macworld Expo. > >We will have an introductory price for the first 30 days (starting July >16). > >If someone just *has to have* a beta copy before July 16, and is willing to >purchase it (we already have enough internal and external beta testers), >we'd be open to selling a limited number of beta licenses before that time. >(Part of it is we are still training the support people to handle this new >product). The current limitations are that the manual is not complete and >the iCal conduit has a few more obscure border conditions to handle before >it is done. Both of these issues will be cleared before the 1.0 release on >July 16. And frankly, given the experiences people have had with other >products, we are not excited to sell anyone a copy until the iCal conduit >is *completely* done. It just wouldn't be worth it. > >Brian > >-- >_____________________________________________________________________ >Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 >540 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 >Los Gatos, CA 95030 >------------------------------ > >Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2003 18:42:05 -0400 >From: Jim Wick >To: "The Missing Sync (Mac/Pocket PC)" > >Subject: Re: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Re: Current state of things >Message-ID: >In-Reply-To: >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Precedence: list >Reply-To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Pocket PC\)" > >Message: 9 > >Brian >Thanks for the update. I think just getting the word from you guys will >help >put people at ease. I am willing to wait for the 1.0 release. Do you have >any pricing information other than the introductory price you mentioned > >Thanks >Jim > > in the meantime. > > > > We have decided to go straight to 1.0, which will be released July 16 at > > Macworld Expo. > > > > We will have an introductory price for the first 30 days (starting July >16). > > > > If someone just *has to have* a beta copy before July 16, and is willing >to > > purchase it (we already have enough internal and external beta testers), > > we'd be open to selling a limited number of beta licenses before that >time. > > (Part of it is we are still training the support people to handle this >new > > product). The current limitations are that the manual is not complete >and > > the iCal conduit has a few more obscure border conditions to handle >before > > it is done. Both of these issues will be cleared before the 1.0 release >on > > July 16. And frankly, given the experiences people have had with other > > products, we are not excited to sell anyone a copy until the iCal >conduit > > is *completely* done. It just wouldn't be worth it. > > > > Brian > >------------------------------ > >Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2003 20:29:55 -0400 >From: Jim Wick >To: "The Missing Sync (Mac/Pocket PC)" > >Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Question >Message-ID: >In-Reply-To: >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Precedence: list >Reply-To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Pocket PC\)" > >Message: 10 > >This has probably been covered before, if so I apologize but will 1.0 >support the Pocket PC 2003 platforms. Specifically I have an Ipaq 5555 > >Thanks >Jim > >------------------------------ > >Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 18:19:17 -0700 >From: Brian Hall >To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Pocket PC\)" > >Subject: Re: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Question >Message-ID: >In-Reply-To: >References: >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Precedence: list >Reply-To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Pocket PC\)" > >Message: 11 > > >This has probably been covered before, if so I apologize but will 1.0 > >support the Pocket PC 2003 platforms. Specifically I have an Ipaq 5555 > >We will be testing that next week. If it requires code level changes, it >won't be part of the 1.0 release, and would have to wait for a subsequent >release - we did all of our development/testing over the past months with >Pocket PC/SmartPhone 2002 devices - see >http://www.markspace.com/pocketpc_supported.html for the currently tested >devices. > >Brian > >-- >_____________________________________________________________________ >Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 >540 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 >Los Gatos, CA 95030 >------------------------------ > >Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 21:38:49 -0400 >From: Jonathan Zacks >To: "The Missing Sync (Mac/Pocket PC)" > >Subject: Re: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Delivering the software >Message-ID: <42B4D6B9-ADC0-11D7-9A4C-000393C77EBC@noj.port5.com> >In-Reply-To: >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed >MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Precedence: list >Reply-To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Pocket PC\)" > >Message: 12 > >Good points, that guy Steve just made a fool of himself trying to >attack you and brown nose up to Mark/Space. >Also, I truly appreciate your "no typo" addition regarding your name. >Is it that hard to actually type someone's name correctly? >--Jonathan > > > > >On Thursday, July 3, 2003, at 06:10 PM, Olivier Scherler wrote: > > >> If you don't want to wait, then go someplace else, stop complaining > >> and > >> being a baby about it. Oliver, go whine somewhere else. > > > > Steve, > > > > If I subscribed to this list, it was to be informed about the upcoming > > product, > > without having to constantly monitor the web page. If it's delayed, > > fine, but > > I'd like to know if it's by a week, a month or if the people of > > Mark/Space don't > > know, which could mean even longer. > > > > The release date is directly linked to the amount of efforts I put in > > working > > around the numerous issues of PocketMac. I can live for another week > > without a > > reliable synchronization of my current data, but if I have to wait a > > month, then > > I'll look for a temporay solution in the meantime. > > > > Olivier (no typo) > > _______________________________________________ > > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > > be found at: > > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > > > >------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list >missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com >Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be >found at: >http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > >End of missing-sync-pocketpc-talk Digest, Vol 6, Issue 3 >******************************************************** _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From manuelplascencia at hotmail.com Fri Jul 4 16:47:17 2003 From: manuelplascencia at hotmail.com (manny p) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:18 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Demo would be a bad idea Message-ID: I dont think there should be a demo. Demo's make it easy for hackers to take NAG's out of software. Which means they will not buy it. _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus From tmond at moravian.edu Fri Jul 4 20:14:56 2003 From: tmond at moravian.edu (Tom Mondschein) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:18 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Available for iPaq 3870? Message-ID: <53A30A9C-AE75-11D7-A619-000A959CAE92@moravian.edu> Will the software be compatible w/ an iPaq 3870?? Tom * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Thomas J. Mondschein Center for Information Technology Moravian College 120 W Greenwich St Bethlehem PA 18018 tmond@moravian.edu 610.861.1477 (Voice) 610.625.7926 (Fax) 610.625.7929 (Help Desk) From statham at ozemail.com.au Sat Jul 5 10:37:39 2003 From: statham at ozemail.com.au (Phil S) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:18 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Beta version Message-ID: Brian, I would also be interested in a Beta version. I don't use iCal (so would have to wait for the entourage version in the future), but would like to access files from the desktop (music, photo's, programmes etc) Phil S From fmcpherson at mac.com Fri Jul 4 21:12:30 2003 From: fmcpherson at mac.com (Frank McPherson) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:18 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Beta version In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5E762E02-AE7D-11D7-8498-000A956AA362@mac.com> Hey Phil, what Pocket PC do you have? If you happen to have one with built-in Bluetooth you can probably transfer those files right now, without Missing Sync. I've paired up my iPAQ 2215 with my 12-inch PowerBook and simply used the Bluetooth File Exchange on the PowerBook to transfer files. I can also send across contacts from the iPAQ to the PowerBook using Bluetooth, and pull them into Address Book, but unfortunately I can't pull appointments into iCal. Another route is FTP. I believe there is an FTP server with OS X, so if you have a network connection you can get an FTP client and transfer files back and forth. In fact, if you use Windows file sharing (Samba) under OS X you might even use File Explorer on the Pocket PC to transfer files, the that might be a bit of a stretch. Basically, what I am saying is that if all you want to do is transfer files, there are ways that you can probably do that now without a full-blown synchronization product. Frank On Friday, July 4, 2003, at 07:37 PM, Phil S wrote: > Brian, > > I would also be interested in a Beta version. I don't use iCal (so > would > have to wait for the entourage version in the future), but would like > to > access files from the desktop (music, photo's, programmes etc) > > Phil S > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk From plainsong at mac.com Sat Jul 5 05:58:24 2003 From: plainsong at mac.com (Kimberly Ruohio) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:18 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Manny P - If there's no demo... In-Reply-To: <200307042248.h64Mm7d08436@markspace.vps.fluidhosting.com> Message-ID: <295C7334-AE8C-11D7-8BFD-000393A207AA@mac.com> If there is no demo, can you suggest why I should buy this software? Should I just pay for it because it "might" work? Yes, I agree, it probably will work. But then again it may not, my rather popular device isn't on the list. And then where will I be? I would have paid for and bought something that didn't work, and no hope of returning it. I would have been scammed by Markspace. I very much understand the threat of hackers, but at the same time, what am I, as the customer, supposed to do? You have stated that there should be no demo, so then what is your solution in the case the software doesn't work? Kimberly Ruohio From statham at ozemail.com.au Sat Jul 5 17:45:48 2003 From: statham at ozemail.com.au (Phil S) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:18 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Beta Required Message-ID: Brian, I would also be interested in a Beta version. I don't use iCal (so would have to wait for the entourage version in the future), but would like to access files from the desktop (music, photo's, programmes etc) Phil S From kortenkamp at cinderella.de Sat Jul 5 11:55:59 2003 From: kortenkamp at cinderella.de (Ulrich Kortenkamp) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:18 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Manny P - If there's no demo... In-Reply-To: <295C7334-AE8C-11D7-8BFD-000393A207AA@mac.com> References: <295C7334-AE8C-11D7-8BFD-000393A207AA@mac.com> Message-ID: <7F669300-AEC6-11D7-A487-003065C130C8@cinderella.de> On Samstag, 5. Juli 2003, at 3:58 Uhr, Kimberly Ruohio wrote: > I would have been scammed by Markspace. ... like it happened to me with PocketMac. This implies: No demo, no buy. Ulli From ivanpetrovitch at mac.com Sat Jul 5 14:19:23 2003 From: ivanpetrovitch at mac.com (Ivan Petrovitch) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:18 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] "No demo, no buy"... ridiculous... Message-ID: How many people here have tried the OS X Jaguar Demo? Or rather, what about the Final Cut Pro demo? Better yet, the iDVD demo? May work with a third party drive? Probably not. Will it work if I install my own external SuperDrive? "Your milage may vary..." No demo, hopefully doesn't mean no buy. Just wait until the software is released. Then someone with your particular brand will take the risk, and if it works flawlessly, will post it here. If not, then any problems will be posted and over time will most likely be hammered out. PocketMac does have a demo. But, again, from my experience, and from others who are on this list, that doesn't mean your particular device will work, even if it is on the list. I have a Toshiba e330. Nada, nothing, no sync. I have been a user of Missing Sync for the Clie, and have found that Mark/Space does a great job of constantly updating the software to include new models and incorporating current models alike. Especially through the OS 9 to OS X transition; and again from the Palm OS 4 to Palm OS 5 period. Some models have taken longer than others. Having said all that, I am still having difficulty waiting until the 16th for the PocketPC version of Missing/Sync... -Ivan From gmapes at nextel.blackberry.net Sat Jul 5 14:32:52 2003 From: gmapes at nextel.blackberry.net (Gordon Mapes) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:18 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] "No demo, no buy"... ridiculous... Message-ID: <1430023982-1057426423-cardhu_blackberry.rim.net-29615-@engine05> Why does everyone want to use a pocket pc when everyone seems to be mac heads? Get a palm that works. Pocketpc is a microsoft product and is meant for pc's! Microsoft can't even get their active sync to work! Give these guys a chance to develop something for you pocket pc people. It will work better than anything out there. -----Original Message----- From: Ivan Petrovitch Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2003 13:19:23 To:missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] "No demo, no buy"... ridiculous... How many people here have tried the OS X Jaguar Demo? Or rather, what about the Final Cut Pro demo? Better yet, the iDVD demo? May work with a third party drive? Probably not. Will it work if I install my own external SuperDrive? "Your milage may vary..." No demo, hopefully doesn't mean no buy. Just wait until the software is released. Then someone with your particular brand will take the risk, and if it works flawlessly, will post it here. If not, then any problems will be posted and over time will most likely be hammered out. PocketMac does have a demo. But, again, from my experience, and from others who are on this list, that doesn't mean your particular device will work, even if it is on the list. I have a Toshiba e330. Nada, nothing, no sync. I have been a user of Missing Sync for the Clie, and have found that Mark/Space does a great job of constantly updating the software to include new models and incorporating current models alike. Especially through the OS 9 to OS X transition; and again from the Palm OS 4 to Palm OS 5 period. Some models have taken longer than others. Having said all that, I am still having difficulty waiting until the 16th for the PocketPC version of Missing/Sync... -Ivan _______________________________________________ missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found at: http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk Gordon Mapes Team Reprographics From pscott at extremesims.com Sat Jul 5 14:48:37 2003 From: pscott at extremesims.com (Patrick Scott) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:18 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] "No demo, no buy"... ridiculous... In-Reply-To: <1430023982-1057426423-cardhu_blackberry.rim.net-29615-@engine05> Message-ID: When did this thread become a soapbox and a battlefield? This is for Pocket PC users who will want to use Missing Sync. Quit spamming the list with your opinions. Thanks On Saturday, Jul 5, 2003, at 13:32 US/Eastern, Gordon Mapes wrote: > Why does everyone want to use a pocket pc when everyone seems to be > mac heads? Get a palm that works. Pocketpc is a microsoft product and > is meant for pc's! Microsoft can't even get their active sync to work! > Give these guys a chance to develop something for you pocket pc > people. It will work better than anything out there. > -----Original Message----- > From: Ivan Petrovitch > Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2003 13:19:23 > To:missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] "No demo, no buy"... > ridiculous... > > > How many people here have tried the OS X Jaguar Demo? Or rather, what > about the Final Cut Pro demo? Better yet, the iDVD demo? May work with > a third party drive? Probably not. Will it work if I install my own > external SuperDrive? "Your milage may vary..." No demo, hopefully > doesn't mean no buy. Just wait until the software is released. Then > someone with your particular brand will take the risk, and if it works > flawlessly, will post it here. If not, then any problems will be posted > and over time will most likely be hammered out. > > PocketMac does have a demo. But, again, from my experience, and from > others who are on this list, that doesn't mean your particular device > will work, even if it is on the list. I have a Toshiba e330. Nada, > nothing, no sync. > > I have been a user of Missing Sync for the Clie, and have found that > Mark/Space does a great job of constantly updating the software to > include new models and incorporating current models alike. Especially > through the OS 9 to OS X transition; and again from the Palm OS 4 to > Palm OS 5 period. Some models have taken longer than others. > > Having said all that, I am still having difficulty waiting until the > 16th for the PocketPC version of Missing/Sync... > > -Ivan > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > > Gordon Mapes > Team Reprographics > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk From dhwang at attsit.com Sat Jul 5 14:00:58 2003 From: dhwang at attsit.com (Don Hwang) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:18 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] RE: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk Digest, Vol 6, Issue 7 Message-ID: Although it may be a good product, if there is no demo then it is not worth it. Use ftp to transfer files. In fact, Mac OS X comes with Apache. You can enable web sharing and place all the items you want to transfer on a webpages accessible through localhost, 127.0.0.1. Then go into Pocket IE, navigate to your webpage and save the link targets to your My Documents directory. Or use Virtual PC with ActiveSync. -----Original Message----- From: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-request@lists.markspace.com [mailto:missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-request@lists.markspace.com] Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 11:01 AM To: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com Subject: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk Digest, Vol 6, Issue 7 Send missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list submissions to missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-request@lists.markspace.com You can reach the person managing the list at missing-sync-pocketpc-talk-owner@lists.markspace.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of missing-sync-pocketpc-talk digest..." _______________________________________________ missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found at: http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk _______________________________________________ Today's Topics: 1. Available for iPaq 3870? (Tom Mondschein) 2. Beta version (Phil S) 3. Re: Beta version (Frank McPherson) 4. Manny P - If there's no demo... (Kimberly Ruohio) 5. Beta Required (Phil S) 6. Re: Manny P - If there's no demo... (Ulrich Kortenkamp) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 19:14:56 -0400 From: Tom Mondschein To: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Available for iPaq 3870? Message-ID: <53A30A9C-AE75-11D7-A619-000A959CAE92@moravian.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Reply-To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Pocket PC\)" Message: 1 Will the software be compatible w/ an iPaq 3870?? Tom * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Thomas J. Mondschein Center for Information Technology Moravian College 120 W Greenwich St Bethlehem PA 18018 tmond@moravian.edu 610.861.1477 (Voice) 610.625.7926 (Fax) 610.625.7929 (Help Desk) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2003 09:37:39 +1000 From: Phil S To: Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Beta version Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Reply-To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Pocket PC\)" Message: 2 Brian, I would also be interested in a Beta version. I don't use iCal (so would have to wait for the entourage version in the future), but would like to access files from the desktop (music, photo's, programmes etc) Phil S ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 20:12:30 -0400 From: Frank McPherson To: "The Missing Sync (Mac/Pocket PC)" Subject: Re: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Beta version Message-ID: <5E762E02-AE7D-11D7-8498-000A956AA362@mac.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Reply-To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Pocket PC\)" Message: 3 Hey Phil, what Pocket PC do you have? If you happen to have one with built-in Bluetooth you can probably transfer those files right now, without Missing Sync. I've paired up my iPAQ 2215 with my 12-inch PowerBook and simply used the Bluetooth File Exchange on the PowerBook to transfer files. I can also send across contacts from the iPAQ to the PowerBook using Bluetooth, and pull them into Address Book, but unfortunately I can't pull appointments into iCal. Another route is FTP. I believe there is an FTP server with OS X, so if you have a network connection you can get an FTP client and transfer files back and forth. In fact, if you use Windows file sharing (Samba) under OS X you might even use File Explorer on the Pocket PC to transfer files, the that might be a bit of a stretch. Basically, what I am saying is that if all you want to do is transfer files, there are ways that you can probably do that now without a full-blown synchronization product. Frank On Friday, July 4, 2003, at 07:37 PM, Phil S wrote: > Brian, > > I would also be interested in a Beta version. I don't use iCal (so > would > have to wait for the entourage version in the future), but would like > to > access files from the desktop (music, photo's, programmes etc) > > Phil S > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2003 04:58:24 +0300 From: Kimberly Ruohio To: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Manny P - If there's no demo... Message-ID: <295C7334-AE8C-11D7-8BFD-000393A207AA@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <200307042248.h64Mm7d08436@markspace.vps.fluidhosting.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Reply-To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Pocket PC\)" Message: 4 If there is no demo, can you suggest why I should buy this software? Should I just pay for it because it "might" work? Yes, I agree, it probably will work. But then again it may not, my rather popular device isn't on the list. And then where will I be? I would have paid for and bought something that didn't work, and no hope of returning it. I would have been scammed by Markspace. I very much understand the threat of hackers, but at the same time, what am I, as the customer, supposed to do? You have stated that there should be no demo, so then what is your solution in the case the software doesn't work? Kimberly Ruohio ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2003 16:45:48 +1000 From: Phil S To: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Beta Required Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Precedence: list Reply-To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Pocket PC\)" Message: 5 Brian, I would also be interested in a Beta version. I don't use iCal (so would have to wait for the entourage version in the future), but would like to access files from the desktop (music, photo's, programmes etc) Phil S ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2003 10:55:59 +0200 From: Ulrich Kortenkamp To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Pocket PC\)" Subject: Re: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Manny P - If there's no demo... Message-ID: <7F669300-AEC6-11D7-A487-003065C130C8@cinderella.de> In-Reply-To: <295C7334-AE8C-11D7-8BFD-000393A207AA@mac.com> References: <295C7334-AE8C-11D7-8BFD-000393A207AA@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v578) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Reply-To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Pocket PC\)" Message: 6 On Samstag, 5. Juli 2003, at 3:58 Uhr, Kimberly Ruohio wrote: > I would have been scammed by Markspace. ... like it happened to me with PocketMac. This implies: No demo, no buy. Ulli ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found at: http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk End of missing-sync-pocketpc-talk Digest, Vol 6, Issue 7 ******************************************************** From brian_hall at markspace.com Sat Jul 5 14:38:42 2003 From: brian_hall at markspace.com (Brian Hall) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:18 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Pocket PC 2003 Message-ID: We picked up an iPaq 2215 (Pocket PC 2003) yesterday and have confirmed that it works. So it looks like Pocket PC 2003 devices should (in general) be supported. Brian -- _____________________________________________________________________ Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 540 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 Los Gatos, CA 95030 From TDefriez at cs.com Sat Jul 5 17:45:01 2003 From: TDefriez at cs.com (TDefriez@cs.com) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:18 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] RE: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk Digest, Vol 6, Issue 7 Message-ID: <126.2cee193b.2c3892cd@cs.com> If you've got activesync to work with virtual pc let me know how! I've tried numerous ways with no luck (Virtual PC v6, activesync 3.4 to 3.7, OSX 10.2.X). What's the key? From sgruby at markspace.com Sat Jul 5 16:17:54 2003 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:18 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Request for Assistance Message-ID: <863FF430-AF36-11D7-9053-000393A57B52@markspace.com> Greetings! In an effort to support as many devices out of the box, we'd like to request a little assistance from those of you on this list. As we don't have access to every device out there, we would like you to do the following and send it to (not the list): 1. Connect your device to your Mac via USB (it should attempt to start ActiveSync, if it doesn't, take the device out of the cradle and try again). 2. Launch Apple System Profiler (if it was already running, choose Refresh from the Window menu) 3. Choose Devices and Volumes 4. Look under USB Information for a device (or devices) that is not identified or says "Vendor-Specific" 5. Open the tab and send the following information: Product ID: Vendor ID: On your Pocket PC device. Choose Settings from the Start Menu, Tap System, Tap About and Send the version information. For example, for the iPAQ 2215 on my desk, I would send: Manufacturer: HP Device Model: iPAQ 2215 Vendor ID: 1008 Product ID: 4118 Version: 4.20.1081 (Build 13100) While we aren't guaranteeing that your device will work out of the box, this will really assist us. If you have any questions, please let me know by sending email to: . Thanks. -- Scott Gruby Please contact support@markspace.com for assistance with Mark/Space products. From fmcpherson at mac.com Sat Jul 5 20:20:10 2003 From: fmcpherson at mac.com (Frank McPherson) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:18 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Pocket PC 2003 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <38C2DFD6-AF3F-11D7-8498-000A956AA362@mac.com> Brian, this is good news! Thanks for sharing. We're all looking forward to July 16. Frank On Saturday, July 5, 2003, at 04:38 PM, Brian Hall wrote: > We picked up an iPaq 2215 (Pocket PC 2003) yesterday and have confirmed > that it works. So it looks like Pocket PC 2003 devices should (in > general) > be supported. > > Brian > > -- > _____________________________________________________________________ > Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 > 540 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 > Los Gatos, CA 95030 > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk From plainsong at mac.com Sun Jul 6 08:41:58 2003 From: plainsong at mac.com (Kimberly Ruohio) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:18 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Why the attacks? In-Reply-To: <200307052321.h65NLKd17185@markspace.vps.fluidhosting.com> Message-ID: <2D74E99E-AF6C-11D7-9BB1-000393A207AA@mac.com> Why are some in this list attacking those who have devices that aren't on the supported list, and hence we need a demo? I don't think it's unreasonable to want to test a device first that isn't on the list. I don't understand the hostility here, nor do the comparisons make any sense. You can't compare buying an OS to buying Missing Sync. You're reaching, there. I'm not attacking Markspace. Not at all. I had the Missing Sync for my Clie 770c and it was great. I don't even consider Pocketmac as actually software. :P I'm sure it will most likely work, but I don't see the point of attacking someone just because their device isn't on the list, and it needs testing before buying. Well at least the 2215 worked... there's that if nothing else. But please Markspace, ignore these kinds of people who just shout to here themselves shouting. I'm not out to get something for nothing. I just need a solution that works, and unfortunately my solution needs testing before buying. With the variety of PocketPC's out there, this is going to be a problem if there's no trial. Thanks, Kim From ctheodo8 at otenet.gr Sun Jul 6 10:20:43 2003 From: ctheodo8 at otenet.gr (Constantine Theodossiou) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:18 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Question re: your request for assistance In-Reply-To: <863FF430-AF36-11D7-9053-000393A57B52@markspace.com> Message-ID: Scott, I have launched the system profiler and have done everything up to 4 as per your message below. But within the Devices and Volumes tab there is no other tab that supplies the information you mention on 5. Can you please help? Thanks Constantine P.s. By the way, every time I take the USB off my Ibook, the modem "unexpectedly quits" Scott Gruby5/7/03 11:17 pmsgruby@markspace.com > Greetings! > > In an effort to support as many devices out of the box, we'd like to > request a little assistance from those of you on this list. As we don't > have access to every device out there, we would like you to do the > following and send it to > (not the list): > > 1. Connect your device to your Mac via USB (it should attempt to start > ActiveSync, if it doesn't, take the device out of the cradle and try > again). > 2. Launch Apple System Profiler (if it was already running, choose > Refresh from the Window menu) > 3. Choose Devices and Volumes > 4. Look under USB Information for a device (or devices) that is not > identified or says "Vendor-Specific" > 5. Open the tab and send the following information: > Product ID: > Vendor ID: > > On your Pocket PC device. Choose Settings from the Start Menu, Tap > System, Tap About and Send the version information. > > For example, for the iPAQ 2215 on my desk, I would send: > > Manufacturer: HP > Device Model: iPAQ 2215 > Vendor ID: 1008 > Product ID: 4118 > Version: 4.20.1081 (Build 13100) > > While we aren't guaranteeing that your device will work out of the box, > this will really assist us. If you have any questions, please let me > know by sending email to: . > > Thanks. > > -- > Scott Gruby > > > Please contact support@markspace.com for assistance with Mark/Space > products. > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > From tor at dsl.pipex.com Sun Jul 6 20:03:37 2003 From: tor at dsl.pipex.com (Tor-Arne Gisvold) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:18 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] RE: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk Digest, Vol 6, Issue 7 In-Reply-To: <126.2cee193b.2c3892cd@cs.com> Message-ID: On my VPC - running Windows 98 - go to the settings menu, click on the last option in the settings window, tick the main USB box, there should be one unknown device in the sub-box, tick this as well, and all should work. Regards Tor On 5/7/03 21:45, "TDefriez@cs.com" wrote: > If you've got activesync to work with virtual pc let me know how! I've tried > numerous ways with no luck (Virtual PC v6, activesync 3.4 to 3.7, OSX 10.2.X). > What's the key? > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk From dave at alcaeng.com Sun Jul 6 12:37:07 2003 From: dave at alcaeng.com (David Mollerstuen) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:18 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Question re: your request for assistance In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sunday, July 6, 2003, at 01:20 AM, Constantine Theodossiou wrote: > I have launched the system profiler and have done everything up to 4 > as per > your message below. But within the Devices and Volumes tab there is no > other > tab that supplies the information you mention on 5. Rather than another tab, click the disclosure triangle next to the "Unidentified" or "Vendor-Specific" USB device; that should reveal additional information about the device, including a vendor name or Vendor ID and a Product ID. Dave -- David Mollerstuen dave@alcaeng.com From ctheodo8 at otenet.gr Wed Jul 2 00:29:30 2003 From: ctheodo8 at otenet.gr (Constantine Theodossiou) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:18 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Question re: your request for assistance In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thank you ct David Mollerstuen6/7/03 7:37 pmdave@alcaeng.com > On Sunday, July 6, 2003, at 01:20 AM, Constantine Theodossiou wrote: > >> I have launched the system profiler and have done everything up to 4 >> as per >> your message below. But within the Devices and Volumes tab there is no >> other >> tab that supplies the information you mention on 5. > > Rather than another tab, click the disclosure triangle next to the > "Unidentified" or "Vendor-Specific" USB device; that should reveal > additional information about the device, including a vendor name or > Vendor ID and a Product ID. > > Dave From randybisig at mac.com Sun Jul 6 18:00:54 2003 From: randybisig at mac.com (Randy Bisig) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:18 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] missing-sync-pocketpc-talk Digest, Vol 6, Issue 7 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I have been able to connect with ActiveSync 3.5 using VPC 6.0 (Windows XP) via USB. (Mac 10.2.whatever the latest is - 15 in flat-panel iMac - 1024 Mb) On 07/06/03 01:03 PM, "Tor-Arne Gisvold" wrote: > On my VPC - running Windows 98 - go to the settings menu, click on the last > option in the settings window, tick the main USB box, there should be one > unknown device in the sub-box, tick this as well, and all should work. > > Regards > Tor > > On 5/7/03 21:45, "TDefriez@cs.com" wrote: > >> If you've got activesync to work with virtual pc let me know how! I've tried >> numerous ways with no luck (Virtual PC v6, activesync 3.4 to 3.7, OSX >> 10.2.X). >> What's the key? From TDefriez at cs.com Sun Jul 6 19:25:01 2003 From: TDefriez at cs.com (TDefriez@cs.com) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:18 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] RE: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk Digest, Vol 6, Issue 7 Message-ID: <55.43a05fe6.2c39fbbd@cs.com> Does not work with XP - I've already tried that From rlub1 at yahoo.com Sun Jul 6 23:46:42 2003 From: rlub1 at yahoo.com (Rael Lubner - Yahoo) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:18 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] missing-sync-pocketpc-talk Digest, Vol 6, Issue 7 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 7/6/03 6:00 PM, "Randy Bisig" wrote: > I have been able to connect with ActiveSync 3.5 using VPC 6.0 (Windows XP) > via USB. (Mac 10.2.whatever the latest is - 15 in flat-panel iMac - 1024 Mb) > > > On 07/06/03 01:03 PM, "Tor-Arne Gisvold" wrote: > >> On my VPC - running Windows 98 - go to the settings menu, click on the last >> option in the settings window, tick the main USB box, there should be one >> unknown device in the sub-box, tick this as well, and all should work. >> >> Regards >> Tor >> >> On 5/7/03 21:45, "TDefriez@cs.com" wrote: >> >>> If you've got activesync to work with virtual pc let me know how! I've tried >>> numerous ways with no luck (Virtual PC v6, activesync 3.4 to 3.7, OSX >>> 10.2.X). >>> What's the key? > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk Hello - I just purchased HP 2215 and installed the activesync 3.5 on VPC 6. It worked fine then couple hours later the computer crashed. Since then I have not been able to get the VCP to locate the USB cradle. I have uninstalled Activesync and VCP and then reinstalled it to no success. Any advice on how to get the USB cradle to be recognized? From jpannen at bluewin.ch Mon Jul 7 12:46:05 2003 From: jpannen at bluewin.ch (Jean-Pierre Annen) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:18 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Pocket PC 2000 Message-ID: Did you made a test of missing sync, to know if it work with Pocket PC 2000? I hop so. From randybisig at mac.com Mon Jul 7 06:14:28 2003 From: randybisig at mac.com (Randy Bisig) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:18 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] ActiveSync and VPC 6 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Hello - I just purchased HP 2215 and installed the activesync 3.5 on VPC 6. > It worked fine then couple hours later the computer crashed. Since then I > have not been able to get the VCP to locate the USB cradle. I have > uninstalled Activesync and VCP and then reinstalled it to no success. Any > advice on how to get the USB cradle to be recognized? There seems to be a specific order to things to get AS to work with VPC. I have had to start up VPC, start up ActiveSync, *then* cradle the iPAQ. You might check your settings file to ensure that VPC is checking USB for the iPAQ. I used to have a problem with VPC listing the iPAQ as a shared device, but it would be unchecked. Take a look at this before cradling the iPAQ. ~~~randy~~> From randybisig at mac.com Mon Jul 7 06:15:43 2003 From: randybisig at mac.com (Randy Bisig) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:18 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Re:"Does not work with XP"? In-Reply-To: <55.43a05fe6.2c39fbbd@cs.com> Message-ID: On 07/06/03 05:25 PM, "TDefriez@cs.com" wrote: > Does not work with XP - I've already tried that What "Does not work with XP"? ActiveSync 3.5 work via VPC 6.0 on my Mac. From Mikekerrnew at aol.com Mon Jul 7 13:20:39 2003 From: Mikekerrnew at aol.com (Mikekerrnew@aol.com) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:18 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Re: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk Digest, Vol 6, Issue 10 Message-ID: <14d.2148056f.2c3af7d7@aol.com> You guys are doing better than me. With OSX 10.2.6 and VPC6 XP I can't even INSTALL activesync. It gets to 91% then stops. Again. And again. And again. How did you anyone manage to even get as far as a single sync? From matt at frontiertreks.com Mon Jul 7 23:16:27 2003 From: matt at frontiertreks.com (Matt) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:18 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] How Much? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: When are we going to know how much this puppy is going to set us back, on the 16th? Matt From brian_hall at markspace.com Mon Jul 7 11:56:33 2003 From: brian_hall at markspace.com (Brian Hall) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:18 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Audiovox Thera / Toshiba 2032SP In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >I have the Toshiba2032SP also known as the Audiovox Thera and this >device is not on the list. I agree that I should have access to a >**working** demo to see if this device works with Missing Sync, even if >the demo is limited to 5 syncs or something lame like that. > >Brian, what do you think? the build of this device is: > >version 3.0.11171 build 11178 Many of the devices we have tested use that build, so it should work. If you have not done so already, use the earlier post to send Scott the devices VID/PID info. Brian -- _____________________________________________________________________ Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 540 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 Los Gatos, CA 95030 From brose at utk.edu Mon Jul 7 15:15:37 2003 From: brose at utk.edu (Curtis Rose) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:18 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Will the Samsung i700 work Message-ID: <024B9FD6-B0A7-11D7-A344-000393A34FBC@utk.edu> I am very interested in this software and wondered if the Samsung i700 will be compatible. It runs the Smartphone edition I am assuming. Thanks Curtis From brian_hall at markspace.com Mon Jul 7 15:01:14 2003 From: brian_hall at markspace.com (Brian Hall) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:18 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] AvantGo In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >here are 2 feature requests (while I'm sitting here dreaming about software >that doesn't exist...i'm a big loser): > >#1. I would love to have AvantGo sync with my mac. We tested this, and you can do this using the "internet sharing" feature. ie, share your Macs internet connection with the PPC while it is in the cradle, then run AvantGo on the device and sync that way. >#2. Please make available or direct users to a file converter for pocket >word and pocket excel files that will run on OS X. We will include instructions on how to move files back and forth using "Save As" on the device. The results are very good using this method, although it requires an extra step. Brian -- _____________________________________________________________________ Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 540 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 Los Gatos, CA 95030 From brian_hall at markspace.com Mon Jul 7 15:02:15 2003 From: brian_hall at markspace.com (Brian Hall) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:18 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Needed features In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >Key features: >* sync of notes >* Sync Entourage is KEY! >* sync ink drawings like notepad in Palm. >* sync audio notes >* sync emails in entourage. These features are all on the wish-list for future versions. Thanks for the feedback! brian -- _____________________________________________________________________ Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 540 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 Los Gatos, CA 95030 From taka at rmconline.net Mon Jul 7 17:06:49 2003 From: taka at rmconline.net (taka iguchi) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:18 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] AvantGo In-Reply-To: Message-ID: please unsubsribe me,. On Monday, July 7, 2003, at 04:01 PM, Brian Hall wrote: >> here are 2 feature requests (while I'm sitting here dreaming about >> software >> that doesn't exist...i'm a big loser): >> >> #1. I would love to have AvantGo sync with my mac. > > We tested this, and you can do this using the "internet sharing" > feature. > ie, share your Macs internet connection with the PPC while it is in the > cradle, then run AvantGo on the device and sync that way. > >> #2. Please make available or direct users to a file converter for >> pocket >> word and pocket excel files that will run on OS X. > > We will include instructions on how to move files back and forth using > "Save As" on the device. The results are very good using this method, > although it requires an extra step. > > Brian > > -- > _____________________________________________________________________ > Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 > 540 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 > Los Gatos, CA 95030 > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > > Taka Iguchi --RMC Staff From randybisig at mac.com Mon Jul 7 17:08:20 2003 From: randybisig at mac.com (Randy Bisig) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:18 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Re: Returned mail: User unknown In-Reply-To: <200307071121.h67BLL05021417@mac.com> Message-ID: Why am I getting these, and make them stop! ---------------- Begin Forwarded Message ---------------- > The original message was received at 2003-07-07 19:17:57 +0800 > from postoffice.local. [10.0.0.1] > > ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- > > > -----Transcript of session follows ----- > ... while talking to postoffice.local..: >>>> RCPT To: > <<< 550 5.1.1 unknown or illegal alias: liweichen@so-net.net.tw > 550 ... User unknown > From pscott at extremesims.com Mon Jul 7 18:17:43 2003 From: pscott at extremesims.com (Patrick Scott) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:18 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] AvantGo In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <72CF051A-B0C0-11D7-85A6-000393A338A4@extremesims.com> Sweet! On Monday, Jul 7, 2003, at 17:01 US/Eastern, Brian Hall wrote: >> here are 2 feature requests (while I'm sitting here dreaming about >> software >> that doesn't exist...i'm a big loser): >> >> #1. I would love to have AvantGo sync with my mac. > > We tested this, and you can do this using the "internet sharing" > feature. > ie, share your Macs internet connection with the PPC while it is in the > cradle, then run AvantGo on the device and sync that way. > >> #2. Please make available or direct users to a file converter for >> pocket >> word and pocket excel files that will run on OS X. > > We will include instructions on how to move files back and forth using > "Save As" on the device. The results are very good using this method, > although it requires an extra step. > > Brian > > -- > _____________________________________________________________________ > Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 > 540 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 > Los Gatos, CA 95030 > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk From jniiya at comcast.net Mon Jul 7 15:23:34 2003 From: jniiya at comcast.net (Jeff Niiya) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:18 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] ICal conduit Message-ID: <44064A3E-B0C1-11D7-9488-000393DC035A@comcast.net> Brian, Will the ICal conduit allow for sync with more then one calendar? I currently have four in ICal, but can reduce it down to one once the software is released. Thanks for the input and hard work. Jeff Niiya jniiya@comcast.net Portland, OR From brian_hall at markspace.com Mon Jul 7 15:27:52 2003 From: brian_hall at markspace.com (Brian Hall) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:18 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] ICal conduit In-Reply-To: <44064A3E-B0C1-11D7-9488-000393DC035A@comcast.net> References: <44064A3E-B0C1-11D7-9488-000393DC035A@comcast.net> Message-ID: >Brian, > >Will the ICal conduit allow for sync with more then one calendar? I >currently have four in ICal, but can reduce it down to one once the >software is released. Thanks for the input and hard work. You can sync all, none, or selected calendars. Brian -- _____________________________________________________________________ Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 540 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 Los Gatos, CA 95030 From fmcpherson at mac.com Mon Jul 7 19:53:52 2003 From: fmcpherson at mac.com (Frank McPherson) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:18 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Will the Samsung i700 work In-Reply-To: <024B9FD6-B0A7-11D7-A344-000393A34FBC@utk.edu> Message-ID: fwiw, the Samsung i700 runs the Pocket PC Phone Edition software, either based on Pocket PC 2002 or Windows Mobile 2003. On Monday, July 7, 2003, at 02:15 PM, Curtis Rose wrote: > I am very interested in this software and wondered if the Samsung i700 > will be compatible. It runs the Smartphone edition I am assuming. > Thanks > Curtis > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list > missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk From brian_hall at markspace.com Mon Jul 7 16:57:13 2003 From: brian_hall at markspace.com (Brian Hall) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:18 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Will the Samsung i700 work In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >fwiw, the Samsung i700 runs the Pocket PC Phone Edition software, >either based on Pocket PC 2002 or Windows Mobile 2003. If someone with an i700 could send the info that Scott requested earlier on this list, that would be helpful. (We need to know the USB VID/PID info and OS version as reported on the device). brian >On Monday, July 7, 2003, at 02:15 PM, Curtis Rose wrote: > >> I am very interested in this software and wondered if the Samsung i700 >> will be compatible. It runs the Smartphone edition I am assuming. >> Thanks >> Curtis >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com >> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can >> be found at: >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk > >_______________________________________________ >missing-sync-pocketpc-talk mailing list >missing-sync-pocketpc-talk@lists.markspace.com >Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be >found at: >http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk -- _____________________________________________________________________ Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 540 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 Los Gatos, CA 95030 From Mikekerrnew at aol.com Mon Jul 7 19:58:15 2003 From: Mikekerrnew at aol.com (Mikekerrnew@aol.com) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:18 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Re: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk Digest, Vol 6, Issue 10 Message-ID: <11e.238d42c2.2c3b5507@aol.com> well, I've got my copy, and it's not mounting yet. It says "user name not set" you click the ok dialogue and then the ppc logs out altogether. Can anyone tell me how to set user name? Cheers, Mike From sgruby at markspace.com Mon Jul 7 17:01:51 2003 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:18 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Re: missing-sync-pocketpc-talk Digest, Vol 6, Issue 10 In-Reply-To: <11e.238d42c2.2c3b5507@aol.com> Message-ID: On Monday, July 7, 2003, at 03:58 PM, Mikekerrnew@aol.com wrote: > well, I've got my copy, and it's not mounting yet. It says "user > name not > set" you click the ok dialogue and then the ppc logs out altogether. > Can > anyone tell me how to set user name? > > On your Pocket PC device: Start->Settings->Owner Information->Name Enter something here. -- Scott Gruby Please contact support@markspace.com for assistance with Mark/Space products. From dsalden at siue.edu Mon Jul 7 19:10:41 2003 From: dsalden at siue.edu (Dan R. Salden) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:18 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Re: 91% Stall In-Reply-To: <200307072259.h67Mx7d06499@markspace.vps.fluidhosting.com> Message-ID: Mike- I experienced the same problem. Each time I aborted the process. Then, I saw a comment concerning long installation delays. On the assumption that this was true, I reinstalled ActiveSync and when it got to 91%, I left and watched a movie. Upon return, I found that at some point (certainly more than 30 min), it installed. However, I don't think that this is the end to your problems. I have seen a number of reports that VPC6 worked initially and then became troublesome. This shouldn't come as a surprise, however, because after investigating the Connectix web site, they say that VPC6 is not compatible with PDA's (esp. via ActiveSyn). With the apparent problems associated with PocketMac (I looked at their Demo, but it is so limited that I can't justify a purchase in light of the negative feedback from more experienced users), I eagerly await the missing-sync application. I can say, however, that at least my G4 recognizes my Dell Axim with PocketMac. Good luck. Dan -- Dan R. Salden, Ph.D. President Hawaii Whale Research Foundation 52 Cheshire Dr. Maryville, IL 62062-1931 (618) 288-2283 From WSADLER at mn.rr.com Mon Jul 7 22:31:46 2003 From: WSADLER at mn.rr.com (William Sadler) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:59:18 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-pocketpc-talk] Re: 91% Stall In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 7/7/03 6:10 PM, "Dan R. Salden" wrote: If you have installed pocketmac on OS