From davidturley at pobox.com Mon May 1 13:43:05 2006 From: davidturley at pobox.com (David Turley) Date: Mon May 1 20:43:47 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] repeated task handling Message-ID: I know that iCal does not support repeating "todos". I manage my task list in the device (Treo 650). When I have a repeating event and mark it done, the Palm OS creates a new task at the proper time. When I sync to iCal, the new task is present but it is marked as completed. Example: Task A, due on May 1, repeat set to the first of each month. Today I mark the task done, a new task is created on the device, due date June 1. Sync to iCal. A task due June 1 shows up in iCal, but it is marked completed May 1. Remains okay on the device. Is this just one of those things I have to live with (and umark), or can MS fix the data transfer? From sgruby at markspace.com Mon May 1 22:04:37 2006 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Mon May 1 22:04:42 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Question about iPhoto conduit In-Reply-To: References: <200511071849.jA7Ing16024579@sparrow.markspace.com> <68437E48-55E4-49AF-A0F0-C9FC11945F34@markspace.com> <4C0FD362-103E-4758-8C16-31F0438EEF89@markspace.com> <76913B29-3827-4223-910E-998DADA10DC4@PatriciaWarwick.com> Message-ID: <46FADE18-81DE-4430-836A-C7971FD2885D@markspace.com> On Apr 29, 2006, at 6:26 AM, Craig Bradley wrote: > Anyway, since you asked for a better suggestion, Scott, I'd suggest > some > sort of utility for SplashPhoto to "share" them with the media apps (I > realize that's not your app, but....) OR a way to designate a > category to > keep synced within the media files, so that all of the "MS" > category photos > were synced with the iPhoto album. Could that be done? > We chose the SplashPhoto format because 1) we bundle SplashPhoto and 2) Splash told us their file format. We are still waiting on Palm to disclose to us their file format for the media app. I wish I had a better answer, but I don't. Palm has documented some pieces such as Calendar and Contacts which has helped us with our conduits, but has yet to document photos. -- Scott Gruby Lead Engineer Mark/Space, Inc. Please visit for assistance with Mark/Space products. From robbuckley at mac.com Tue May 2 00:03:12 2006 From: robbuckley at mac.com (Rob Buckley) Date: Tue May 2 00:03:24 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Extraordinarily bad Missing Sync bug Message-ID: Disaster! Missing Sync 5.0's Folder Sync conduit has just wiped a large number of files and folders from my wife's computer. The common aspect to each of the files and folders? They all contained a forward slash / in their filename. We'd set it to sync a particular folder. The first time it synced, looking at the log, it said it was unable to create particular folders and files on the SD card in my wife's T3. The second time it synced it reported that it had removed the files from her laptop. We've looked in vain in the trash, Application Support folders, via Spotlight, etc, but there are no residual copies. Only files and folders with the forward slash in had been affected. Couple of suggestions then: 1) Fix the bug and warn people (assuming I've diagnosed it correctly)! 2) Maybe moved any files that were 'deleted' to the Trash or a backup folder. We had a backup up of the folder from a month ago, but there's a lot of lost, very important documents that we can't replace and we don't want anyone else to suffer the same fate. From tonyburch at gmail.com Tue May 2 00:30:58 2006 From: tonyburch at gmail.com (Tony Burch) Date: Tue May 2 00:30:59 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Extraordinarily bad Missing Sync bug In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 02/05/06, Rob Buckley wrote: > Disaster! Missing Sync 5.0's Folder Sync conduit has just wiped a large > number of files and folders from my wife's computer. The common aspect to > each of the files and folders? They all contained a forward slash / in their > filename. I didn't think we were allowed slashes and colons in Mac filenames? But anyway, I think a warning is a good idea. If you have lost a lot of valuable files, these people don't ask for money until you've seen what you can recover: From chrisridd at mac.com Tue May 2 04:03:56 2006 From: chrisridd at mac.com (Chris Ridd) Date: Tue May 2 04:04:10 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Extraordinarily bad Missing Sync bug In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 2/5/06 8:30, Tony Burch wrote: > On 02/05/06, Rob Buckley wrote: >> Disaster! Missing Sync 5.0's Folder Sync conduit has just wiped a large >> number of files and folders from my wife's computer. The common aspect to >> each of the files and folders? They all contained a forward slash / in their >> filename. > > I didn't think we were allowed slashes and colons in Mac filenames? You can, but you need to be careful about which software layer you're talking about. At the bottom is the disk format, which doesn't allow colons but allows slashes in filenames. The Unix layer allows colons but doesn't allow slashes. The Carbon layer (Finder is a Carbon app) doesn't allow colons but does allow slashes. Cocoa apps talk straight to the Unix layer, so allow colons but don't allow slashes. At each layer, colons and slashes are swapped automatically inside filenames. So if Finder tells you there is a file called "foo/bar" the Unix layer thinks the file is called "foo:bar", and the actual name stored on disk is "foo/bar" again! Cheers, Chris From bcriscuolo at markspace.com Tue May 2 05:39:27 2006 From: bcriscuolo at markspace.com (Brian M. Criscuolo) Date: Tue May 2 05:39:32 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] repeated task handling In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <25E94222-21E2-4A28-8987-A2ECDDA36A35@markspace.com> David, You're going to have to live with this - the state of the ToDo is "correct" inside of Sync Services, but iCal has other thoughts about how it wants to deal with it. Sorry! b On May 1, 2006, at 4:43 PM, David Turley wrote: > I know that iCal does not support repeating "todos". I manage my > task list in the device (Treo 650). When I have a repeating event > and mark it done, the Palm OS creates a new task at the proper > time. When I sync to iCal, the new task is present but it is marked > as completed. > > Example: > > Task A, due on May 1, repeat set to the first of each month. > Today I mark the task done, a new task is created on the device, > due date June 1. > Sync to iCal. > A task due June 1 shows up in iCal, but it is marked completed May 1. > Remains okay on the device. > > Is this just one of those things I have to live with (and umark), > or can MS fix the data transfer? > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your > subscribed email address to: > missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com ******************** Brian M. Criscuolo Senior Software Engineer Mark/Space, Inc. bcriscuolo@markspace.com From davidturley at pobox.com Tue May 2 07:43:42 2006 From: davidturley at pobox.com (David Turley) Date: Tue May 2 07:43:48 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] repeated task handling In-Reply-To: <25E94222-21E2-4A28-8987-A2ECDDA36A35@markspace.com> References: <25E94222-21E2-4A28-8987-A2ECDDA36A35@markspace.com> Message-ID: <51DF789C-3F57-462C-A4FF-9D1D56C3C919@pobox.com> Thanks. I'll make sure I unmark it in iCal. (I fear it will be deleted if I don't). On May 2, 2006, at 8:39 AM, Brian M. Criscuolo wrote: > David, > > You're going to have to live with this - the state of the ToDo is > "correct" inside of Sync Services, but iCal has other thoughts > about how it wants to deal with it. Sorry! > > b > > On May 1, 2006, at 4:43 PM, David Turley wrote: > >> I know that iCal does not support repeating "todos". I manage my >> task list in the device (Treo 650). When I have a repeating event >> and mark it done, the Palm OS creates a new task at the proper >> time. When I sync to iCal, the new task is present but it is >> marked as completed. >> >> Example: >> >> Task A, due on May 1, repeat set to the first of each month. >> Today I mark the task done, a new task is created on the device, >> due date June 1. >> Sync to iCal. >> A task due June 1 shows up in iCal, but it is marked completed May 1. >> Remains okay on the device. >> >> Is this just one of those things I have to live with (and umark), >> or can MS fix the data transfer? >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >> To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your >> subscribed email address to: >> missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com > > > ******************** > Brian M. Criscuolo > Senior Software Engineer > Mark/Space, Inc. > bcriscuolo@markspace.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your > subscribed email address to: > missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com > From KMacMail at mac.com Tue May 2 09:37:09 2006 From: KMacMail at mac.com (Klaus P. Fechner) Date: Tue May 2 09:37:22 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] DateBk6 (or 5) with The Missing Sync 5 In-Reply-To: <51DF789C-3F57-462C-A4FF-9D1D56C3C919@pobox.com> References: <25E94222-21E2-4A28-8987-A2ECDDA36A35@markspace.com> <51DF789C-3F57-462C-A4FF-9D1D56C3C919@pobox.com> Message-ID: Hi! Is anyone using DateBk6 (or 5) with The Missing Sync 5? How does it work for you, especially the features of DateBk that use tags in the appointment note field? Thanks! -- Klaus P. Fechner, Los Altos, CA, USA From robbuckley at mac.com Tue May 2 23:18:04 2006 From: robbuckley at mac.com (Rob Buckley) Date: Tue May 2 23:18:49 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Extraordinarily bad Missing Sync bug In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 2/5/06 8:30 am, Tony Burch wrote: > I didn't think we were allowed slashes and colons in Mac filenames? > But anyway, I think a warning is a good idea. > > If you have lost a lot of valuable files, these people don't ask for > money until you've seen what you can recover: > > > Thanks. I managed to get most of the files back. I tried to file a bug report on the site, but here's the result I got from the support team: This is not a bug in the Missing Sync. It is an improper naming convention to use on a computer that is based on a Unix operating system. I suggest that you do not use non-ASCII characters in filenames or folders. The "/" character is not allowed in filenames or folders in Mac OS. You would have similar problems if you started the filemane or folder with "." or " " (a space). If the filenames or folders were deleted, there is no place I can point you to to recover them. So basically it was all my fault and the support team seems to think that Missing Sync deleting files is in fact normal behaviour. Plus they don't know what filenames are legal in the Finder. Do they hire Linux guys for the support team? From milikin2 at verizon.net Wed May 3 12:35:20 2006 From: milikin2 at verizon.net (Martin Hatcher) Date: Wed May 3 12:34:09 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] (no subject) Message-ID: <113B6FE5-0ED8-4B91-A01E-D77200C4B599@verizon.net> thanks From mcouture at markspace.com Wed May 3 12:48:33 2006 From: mcouture at markspace.com (Michel Couture) Date: Wed May 3 12:48:39 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] MissingSync.prc launch when the sync button is press on T650. Message-ID: I just installed this upgrade on my Treo 650. I had to delete Missing sync app (prc) from my Treo in order to get the sync to work. When I re-install and press the sync button on my cradle Missing Sync launches and the 512 G card shows up on the desktop but it does not sync. Any idea! From dbutenhof at mac.com Wed May 3 13:51:33 2006 From: dbutenhof at mac.com (Dave Butenhof) Date: Wed May 3 13:51:41 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: Extraordinarily bad Missing Sync bug In-Reply-To: <200605031900.k43J07jH008305@sparrow.markspace.com> References: <200605031900.k43J07jH008305@sparrow.markspace.com> Message-ID: > I tried to file a bug report on the site, but here's the result I > got from > the support team: > > This is not a bug in the Missing Sync. It is an improper naming > convention > to use on a computer that is based on a Unix operating system. I > suggest > that you do not use non-ASCII characters in filenames or folders. > > The "/" character is not allowed in filenames or folders in Mac OS. > You > would have similar problems if you started the filemane or folder > with "." > or " " (a space). If the filenames or folders were deleted, there > is no > place I can point you to to recover them. > > > So basically it was all my fault and the support team seems to > think that > Missing Sync deleting files is in fact normal behaviour. Plus they > don't > know what filenames are legal in the Finder. Do they hire Linux > guys for the > support team? Legal file names in Mac OS X are complicated by several layers. Basically, HFS+ is running on top of a UNIX filesystem. In HFS+, ":" is the directory separator, and can't be used in filenames. In UNIX, "/" is the directory separator, and can't be used in filenames. In the Finder, on a typical Mac OS X system running HFS+ on top of UNIX, both are true, in a sense. If you create a file "foo:bar" in the Finder, it'll tell you that you can't do that -- it's not an HFS+ filename. But since "foo/bar" is a legal HFS+ filename, and might exist on an old Mac OS 9 HFS+ disk, it's allowed. But to UNIX it's really "foo:bar", because THAT'S legal, while "foo/bar" isn't. (Try it: create "foo/bar" in your ~username home directory, open a Terminal window, and type "ls"; you'll see "foo:bar". You can do it the other way, too, of course: "touch foo:bar" to create a file, then look at your Finder window.) So the problem is a matter of viewpoint. Programs using UNIX APIs will see "foo:bar" while HFS+ APIs will see "foo/bar", but they're the same file. It's not hard to imagine cases where this could be really confusing, and the advice to avoid both where practical makes a good deal of sense. Of course since "/" is a "native filename character" on the default HFS+ Mac OS X filesystem, any Mac OS X utility ought to support it; whether through HFS+ APIs as "/" or through UNIX APIs as the ":" to which it will be mapped. And wiping out user data is never acceptable -- especially when BOTH filenames are perfectly legal, each in the proper API domain. (A bug like this is perfectly understandable; but deserves an apology and a fix, not "it's your problem".) From sgruby at markspace.com Wed May 3 15:36:12 2006 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Wed May 3 15:36:17 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: Extraordinarily bad Missing Sync bug In-Reply-To: References: <200605031900.k43J07jH008305@sparrow.markspace.com> Message-ID: <6BA67CFA-C8C6-4300-B6F1-C0977E64F124@markspace.com> On May 3, 2006, at 1:51 PM, Dave Butenhof wrote: > > So the problem is a matter of viewpoint. Programs using UNIX APIs > will see "foo:bar" while HFS+ APIs will see "foo/bar", but they're > the same file. It's not hard to imagine cases where this could be > really confusing, and the advice to avoid both where practical > makes a good deal of sense. > To complicate matters from a low level, the APIs for VFS that Palm originally developed were based on old style, colon delimited paths and sometime along the line, Palm changed the API to accept both colon as well as slash delimited files. Our low level routines support both. It is very hard to tell which method to use when syncing a file from the device; to the device is easy because if it doesn't exist one way, check the other way. > Of course since "/" is a "native filename character" on the default > HFS+ Mac OS X filesystem, any Mac OS X utility ought to support it; > whether through HFS+ APIs as "/" or through UNIX APIs as the ":" to > which it will be mapped. And wiping out user data is never > acceptable -- especially when BOTH filenames are perfectly legal, > each in the proper API domain. (A bug like this is perfectly > understandable; but deserves an apology and a fix, not "it's your > problem".) As this is an extremely complicated problem, I don't think we could fix it any time soon. It is likely that a fix we could come up with without breaking compatibility with all existing conduits (that we don't control) that make VFS calls would be to log a message telling you to change the filename; while this wouldn't solve the issue, it would hopefully prevent data loss. -- Scott Gruby Lead Engineer Mark/Space, Inc. Please visit for assistance with Mark/Space products. From walter at natural-innovations.com Wed May 3 16:13:48 2006 From: walter at natural-innovations.com (Walter Ian Kaye) Date: Wed May 3 16:13:59 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: Extraordinarily bad Missing Sync bug In-Reply-To: References: <200605031900.k43J07jH008305@sparrow.markspace.com> Message-ID: At 04:51p -0400 05/03/2006, Dave Butenhof didst inscribe upon an electronic papyrus: >Of course since "/" is a "native filename character" on the default >HFS+ Mac OS X filesystem, any Mac OS X utility ought to support it; >whether through HFS+ APIs as "/" or through UNIX APIs as the ":" to >which it will be mapped. And wiping out user data is never >acceptable -- especially when BOTH filenames are perfectly legal, >each in the proper API domain. (A bug like this is perfectly >understandable; but deserves an apology and a fix, not "it's your >problem".) I imagine simply "testing" a filepath would not slow the software down appreciably, and then if the software really cannot deal with it, put up an alert like "Sorry, Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that." But it's probably really a matter of changing how filepaths are parsed, similar to how CGIs should handle semicolons as well as ampersands as argument separators in query-string URLs. From paul+markspace at bur.st Wed May 3 20:29:17 2006 From: paul+markspace at bur.st (Paul Day) Date: Wed May 3 20:29:28 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] HTTP proxy auth In-Reply-To: References: <3F0C225A-4832-465B-B7C7-26C2BB93F4A0@markspace.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 6 Mar 2006, Brian Hall wrote: > We actually have the source to the Mark/Space Conduit for AvantGo posted > at our developers page. So anybody that would like to add new features > is welcome to do so. paul@grumble:/Library/Application Support/Palm HotSync/Conduits/MarkSpace Conduit for AvantGo.plugin/Contents/MacOS$ strings MarkSpace\ Conduit\ for\ AvantGo | grep -i proxy System Preference HTTP Proxy : %s:%d Setting proxy to %s and port to %d Setting proxy user to %s and password to %s Setting socks proxy to %s and port to %d Error 5477: Error resolving proxy host. Error 5478: Error resolving proxy server. Error 5472: Error connecting to proxy server. Error 5479: Bad Proxy Authorization. Proxy-authorization: Basic %s Looks like it already does, as an undocumented feature. Now if only I could work out how to use it... PD -- Paul Day From mowog at spymac.com Thu May 4 00:39:09 2006 From: mowog at spymac.com (Christopher Glick) Date: Thu May 4 00:39:18 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Bluetooth & EGP Clipboard troubles Message-ID: <20DCFE2A-E291-4F24-9701-300E9E626898@spymac.com> Since upgrading to the latest version of MissingSync under OS X 10.4.6 on a Palm T|X, I've encountered two problems that seem related to MS, though only from the point of time; whether truly related, I know not. 1) I've had increasing trouble with Bluetooth since upgrading. First, trusted devices start claiming that the PDA has no OBEX services, but some degree of connectivity and even file transfer remains; after resets, warnings pop up asking if I want to turn Bluetooth on (I have to click "OK," because "Cancel" doesn't work); later, Bluetooth file transfer ability dies; evnetually the Palm reaches a point where when, after a soft reset or crash, it just goes into an infinite loop of crashing-restarting. A hard reset and reinstallation of everything cures this problem. Temporarily. With previous versions of MS, I never encountered anything like this, and I've not added any software than uses Bluetooth since upgrading to the latest MS. I've also not used MS to connect to my office Mac, which has MS, in any way via Bluetooth. However, I do send files to and from the PDA using my home Mac, which still uses Palm Desktop. But I haven't done a Bluetooth sync with the home Mac. 2) I use EGP Clipboard and have noticed a problem where, sometimes after syncing it with the desktop companion EasyGrade PRO, I losse the ability to add new assignments on the Palm; I can fill in the new assignment data, but it crashes once I tap OK. I've contacted the maker of the software (www.easygradepro.com) and got a response saying that only one other person has reported such behavior; that person was also using MS and a Palm TX. The first time after installing EGP Clipboard after a hard reset, it synced flawlessly. The virgin files on the PDA, I was able to add assignments. After the next sync, assignments could no longer be added. That's how its been since, but I've been too lazy to erase then reinstall EGP Clipboard to try this again. I don't know if it much matters, but I do have CJKOS installed for viewing Japanese (mainly in the Contacts). However, I've had it installed for a long time without encountering such problems under previous versions of MS. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ MowogBlog - mowog.spymac.net/blog/ From adspot at excite.com Thu May 4 07:23:27 2006 From: adspot at excite.com (adspot@excite.com) Date: Thu May 4 07:23:24 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Oddball Freezes with MissingSync after 10.4.6 Message-ID: <20060504142327.0C6DA8B39F@xprdmxin.myway.com> Ever since I updated my G4 Powerbook to 10.4.6 and the latest version of MissingSync. I have run into intermittent OS freezes whenever I perform a sync. I've tried to find conflicts but have not found any, and I have looked for a specific conduit or sync action where it occurs, however it happens at different spots. The log does not seem to help, as it freezes before an error can be logged, so I am forced to do a hard shut down and restart. I have also notices a lot of repeated sync notifications where the M/S Contacts or Events do not match my Address Book and iCal. I sync these as requested, but it doesn't seem to take. Any thoughts here? This issue has occured over the past few weeks, and my attempts to repair it have led to reformatting my HD ... twice (another issue entirely)! Thanks, Jason _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! From brashier at cvm.msstate.edu Thu May 4 12:37:15 2006 From: brashier at cvm.msstate.edu (Michael Brashier) Date: Thu May 4 12:38:32 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Sat. Forms RDK Message-ID: Dear All, Please forgive a non-MS question, but there seem to be folks on the list pretty well versed in Palm software, and I haven't been able to locate an answer elsewhere. I have a Palm T5. When I bought it I thought I was getting 256 MB of memory to which I added a 1Gb card. I didn't realize that the memory of the Palm was subdivided into a portion for applications on the device and an internal memory card. Anyway, I was looking through my Palm info for things I could transfer to the internal memory card because it seemed that the device memory was getting used up. In the process I found one application that is using up the most. It is named Sat. Forms RDK 6.1.1. A Google search indicates that this program is used to create data driven forms for PDAs. My question is since this is used to create forms for use on the PDA, does it also need to be on the PDA to use those forms? It takes up 289280K of memory, way more than anything else. Actually, almost as much as everything else combined. I don't know which program I installed put it on my T5. If I could figure it out, I could decide if I could live without that prc or not. Thanks for any help. Michael Brashier, DVM, Dip. ACVIM Ph#: 662-325-1448 P.O. Box 6100 Fax: 662-325-4011 Mississippi State, MS 39762 email: brashier@cvm.msstate.edu From davidturley at pobox.com Fri May 5 10:44:27 2006 From: davidturley at pobox.com (David Turley) Date: Fri May 5 10:44:37 2006 Subject: [OT] Re: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] repeated task handling In-Reply-To: <25E94222-21E2-4A28-8987-A2ECDDA36A35@markspace.com> References: <25E94222-21E2-4A28-8987-A2ECDDA36A35@markspace.com> Message-ID: <4CEAFB18-4A38-412B-9A5A-BB0F9BF47E02@pobox.com> Interesting. Many of my tasks have stopped showing up in iCal. They must still be in the sync services database since they remain on the Treo after a sync. The solution? I simply stopped showing tasks in iCal and turned off the task syncing in my MS profiles. :-) Looks like iCal is too buggy to deal with them correctly. I'm using 2day on the Treo so my tasks are integrated into my calendar and keeping up is very easy. Hopefully Apple will someday make iCal talk properly to their own Sync Services. :-/ On May 2, 2006, at 8:39 AM, Brian M. Criscuolo wrote: > David, > > You're going to have to live with this - the state of the ToDo is > "correct" inside of Sync Services, but iCal has other thoughts > about how it wants to deal with it. Sorry! > > b > > On May 1, 2006, at 4:43 PM, David Turley wrote: > >> I know that iCal does not support repeating "todos". I manage my >> task list in the device (Treo 650). When I have a repeating event >> and mark it done, the Palm OS creates a new task at the proper >> time. When I sync to iCal, the new task is present but it is >> marked as completed. >> >> Example: >> >> Task A, due on May 1, repeat set to the first of each month. >> Today I mark the task done, a new task is created on the device, >> due date June 1. >> Sync to iCal. >> A task due June 1 shows up in iCal, but it is marked completed May 1. >> Remains okay on the device. >> >> Is this just one of those things I have to live with (and umark), >> or can MS fix the data transfer? >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >> To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your >> subscribed email address to: >> missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com > > > ******************** > Brian M. Criscuolo > Senior Software Engineer > Mark/Space, Inc. > bcriscuolo@markspace.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your > subscribed email address to: > missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com > From bcriscuolo at markspace.com Fri May 5 10:56:08 2006 From: bcriscuolo at markspace.com (Brian M. Criscuolo) Date: Fri May 5 10:56:12 2006 Subject: [OT] Re: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] repeated task handling In-Reply-To: <4CEAFB18-4A38-412B-9A5A-BB0F9BF47E02@pobox.com> References: <25E94222-21E2-4A28-8987-A2ECDDA36A35@markspace.com> <4CEAFB18-4A38-412B-9A5A-BB0F9BF47E02@pobox.com> Message-ID: One way to get them to show up is to use the list view in iCal - its one of the widgets down on the bottom of the screen. Generally, if something isn't showing up on the calendar or the todo list, you'll be able to find it in the list view. On May 5, 2006, at 1:44 PM, David Turley wrote: > Interesting. Many of my tasks have stopped showing up in iCal. They > must still be in the sync services database since they remain on > the Treo after a sync. > > The solution? I simply stopped showing tasks in iCal and turned off > the task syncing in my MS profiles. :-) Looks like iCal is too > buggy to deal with them correctly. I'm using 2day on the Treo so my > tasks are integrated into my calendar and keeping up is very easy. > > Hopefully Apple will someday make iCal talk properly to their own > Sync Services. :-/ > > On May 2, 2006, at 8:39 AM, Brian M. Criscuolo wrote: > >> David, >> >> You're going to have to live with this - the state of the ToDo is >> "correct" inside of Sync Services, but iCal has other thoughts >> about how it wants to deal with it. Sorry! >> >> b >> >> On May 1, 2006, at 4:43 PM, David Turley wrote: >> >>> I know that iCal does not support repeating "todos". I manage my >>> task list in the device (Treo 650). When I have a repeating event >>> and mark it done, the Palm OS creates a new task at the proper >>> time. When I sync to iCal, the new task is present but it is >>> marked as completed. >>> >>> Example: >>> >>> Task A, due on May 1, repeat set to the first of each month. >>> Today I mark the task done, a new task is created on the device, >>> due date June 1. >>> Sync to iCal. >>> A task due June 1 shows up in iCal, but it is marked completed >>> May 1. >>> Remains okay on the device. >>> >>> Is this just one of those things I have to live with (and umark), >>> or can MS fix the data transfer? >>> _______________________________________________ >>> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >>> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >>> To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your >>> subscribed email address to: >>> missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com >> >> >> ******************** >> Brian M. Criscuolo >> Senior Software Engineer >> Mark/Space, Inc. >> bcriscuolo@markspace.com >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >> To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your >> subscribed email address to: >> missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your > subscribed email address to: > missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com ******************** Brian M. Criscuolo Senior Software Engineer Mark/Space, Inc. bcriscuolo@markspace.com From robynphillips at email.com Fri May 5 16:36:26 2006 From: robynphillips at email.com (Robyn Phillips) Date: Fri May 5 16:36:30 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: DateBk6 (or 5) with The Missing Sync 5 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: on 3/5/06 2:37 AM, Klaus P. Fechner wrote: > Hi! > > Is anyone using DateBK6 (or 5) with The Missing Sync 5? > > How does it work for you, especially the features of DateBk that use > tags in the appointment note field? > > Thanks! Hi Klaus, I am using DabeBK6 with Missing Sync and all is well. I have a Treo 650 and sync DabeBK6 (Tasks and Calendar), Memos and Contacts to Palm Desktop (I don't believe iCal and Address Book are up to meeting my expectations just yet). The DateBK6 tags sync across just fine, just like any note attached to a To Do or Appointment does. I have had no significant issues with Missing Sync 5.1.0. I hope this helps. Robyn From markspace at fogbound.net Fri May 5 16:41:23 2006 From: markspace at fogbound.net (Treo Account) Date: Fri May 5 16:42:38 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Memos added to all calendar events Message-ID: <445BE2A3.30005@fogbound.net> Hi! I foolishly let my Treo get out of sync with my desktop between MS version bumps (late 5.1 beta to 5.1). For a while, I maintained everything on the Treo. I finally reset everything on the Mac, and did a sync with handheld overwriting the desktop. This was successful, and everything seemed fine. On my next sync, however, something seems to have gone wrong, and I now have a memo attached to almost every event in my calendar on the Treo side. It looks as if it's some kind of pointer problem -- the memos are nearly identical, and all consist of the string "##@@X@@@@@@@@@@@@@@" where the X appears to always be a hex digit (A-F), with almost all of them being "A" or "B". I'm guessing this may have something to do with categories, although I'm not sure what. So... Is there any way to get rid of these? Is there something I should do to prevent this from happening again? Details: MS 5.1.0 (131), Mac OS 10.4.6, Treo running Palm OS 5.4.8 and Calendar 1.2.2. Thanks, ___Samuel___ From davidturley at pobox.com Fri May 5 18:49:13 2006 From: davidturley at pobox.com (David Turley) Date: Fri May 5 18:49:22 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Memos added to all calendar events In-Reply-To: <445BE2A3.30005@fogbound.net> References: <445BE2A3.30005@fogbound.net> Message-ID: These look like the codes used by Datebk to store icon info. I am sure other third-party apps do the same; such as Agendus. Do you have a calendar program that stores special icons for events? On May 5, 2006, at 7:41 PM, Treo Account wrote: > Hi! > > I foolishly let my Treo get out of sync with my desktop between MS > version bumps (late 5.1 beta to 5.1). > > For a while, I maintained everything on the Treo. I finally reset > everything on the Mac, and did a sync with handheld overwriting the > desktop. This was successful, and everything seemed fine. > > On my next sync, however, something seems to have gone wrong, and I > now have a memo attached to almost every event in my calendar on > the Treo side. > > It looks as if it's some kind of pointer problem -- the memos are > nearly identical, and all consist of the string > "##@@X@@@@@@@@@@@@@@" where the X appears to always be a hex digit > (A-F), with almost all of them being "A" or "B". > > I'm guessing this may have something to do with categories, > although I'm not sure what. > > So... Is there any way to get rid of these? Is there something I > should do to prevent this from happening again? > > Details: MS 5.1.0 (131), Mac OS 10.4.6, Treo running Palm OS 5.4.8 > and Calendar 1.2.2. > > Thanks, > ___Samuel___ > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your > subscribed email address to: > missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com > From nettid1 at fastmail.fm Mon May 8 13:14:59 2006 From: nettid1 at fastmail.fm (zoara) Date: Mon May 8 13:15:11 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Crash log Message-ID: <1D0CF10E-8B33-4B26-8749-40F03DBF5EDB@fastmail.fm> My Treo crashed during a sync yesterday evening; on the next sync, Missing Sync did a 'long' sync (which I understand is normal) but it took ages (over two hours) then bombed out. I have a lot of records in my Calendar, which might explain the long sync, but should it really take two hours? Should this be submitted as a bug? I then tried a Handheld Overwrites Desktop sync, and it fell over again. A few minutes later the Sync Manager thing popped up to tell me all 3700-odd events would be deleted (and they are in iCal), so I presume it managed the first pass (pushing the truth of "all events deleted") but not the second ("here are the events"). I'll try a second sync after this email. Here's the logs. I am running Backup, Install, M/S contacts, M/S Events, Pocket Quicken and TimeCopy: ------------------------------------------------------------------ Sync starting at 07/05/2006 20:40 (20:40:55) on USB (5.1.0) Using profile named: Missing Sync.prc installed OK Install TimeCopy: host 2006/05/07 20:40:58, palm 2006/05/07 20:41:04, diff: -6s OK TimeCopy OK Mark/Space Contacts ------------------------------------------------------------------ Sync starting at 07/05/2006 21:07 (21:07:34) on USB (5.1.0) Using profile named: OK Install TimeCopy: host 2006/05/07 21:07:52, palm 2006/05/07 21:07:52, diff: 0s OK TimeCopy OK Mark/Space Contacts NSInvalidArgumentException *** -[NSCFString shouldPushAllRecordsForEntityName:]: selector not recognized [self = 0x4c32650] OK Mark/Space Events with 1 message(s) Beginning Pocket Quicken 2.0 Sync OK Pocket Quicken 2.0 OK Install Backed up Blazer Bookmarks [-----snip-----] Backed up Patience History OK Backup Sync completed successfully at 07/05/2006 23:37 (23:37:42) ------------------------------------------------------------------ Sync starting at 08/05/2006 20:59 (20:59:45) on USB (5.1.0) Using profile named: OK Install TimeCopy: host 2006/05/08 20:59:50, palm 2006/05/08 20:59:49, diff: 1s OK TimeCopy OK Mark/Space Contacts ------------------------------------------------------------------ -- Don't anthropomorphise computers. They hate that. From oran at cisco.com Mon May 8 14:11:47 2006 From: oran at cisco.com (David R Oran) Date: Mon May 8 14:12:35 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Crash log In-Reply-To: <1D0CF10E-8B33-4B26-8749-40F03DBF5EDB@fastmail.fm> References: <1D0CF10E-8B33-4B26-8749-40F03DBF5EDB@fastmail.fm> Message-ID: <402F09AA-70F7-4F92-8297-8CCD23B4385F@cisco.com> I'm having a similar problem except it happens syncing my ~1800 contacts. Nothing in either the Treo log or the MissingSync log to indicate an error. The connection between the Treo and the Mac just breaks after about an hour with the OSX side in the "finishing sync" state and then leaves the OSX side hung for about 30 minutes before it then times out. Symptoms are identical independent of the connection method - both bluetooth and USB behave identically. My only thought is that keep-alives on the sync connection are not happening in the "finishing sync" state for a particular conduit and either there's a hang or some process that's taking way too long I'll be happy to file a bug report, but the logs won't be enlightening unless you can suggest some further instrumentation to turn on. On May 8, 2006, at 4:14 PM, zoara wrote: > > My Treo crashed during a sync yesterday evening; on the next sync, > Missing Sync did a 'long' sync (which I understand is normal) but > it took ages (over two hours) then bombed out. I have a lot of > records in my Calendar, which might explain the long sync, but > should it really take two hours? > > Should this be submitted as a bug? > > I then tried a Handheld Overwrites Desktop sync, and it fell over > again. A few minutes later the Sync Manager thing popped up to tell > me all 3700-odd events would be deleted (and they are in iCal), so > I presume it managed the first pass (pushing the truth of "all > events deleted") but not the second ("here are the events"). I'll > try a second sync after this email. > > > Here's the logs. I am running Backup, Install, M/S contacts, M/S > Events, Pocket Quicken and TimeCopy: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Sync starting at 07/05/2006 20:40 (20:40:55) on USB (5.1.0) > Using profile named: > Missing Sync.prc installed > OK Install > TimeCopy: host 2006/05/07 20:40:58, palm 2006/05/07 20:41:04, diff: > -6s > OK TimeCopy > OK Mark/Space Contacts > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Sync starting at 07/05/2006 21:07 (21:07:34) on USB (5.1.0) > Using profile named: > OK Install > TimeCopy: host 2006/05/07 21:07:52, palm 2006/05/07 21:07:52, diff: 0s > OK TimeCopy > OK Mark/Space Contacts > NSInvalidArgumentException *** -[NSCFString > shouldPushAllRecordsForEntityName:]: selector not recognized [self > = 0x4c32650] > OK Mark/Space Events with 1 message(s) > > Beginning Pocket Quicken 2.0 Sync > OK Pocket Quicken 2.0 > OK Install > Backed up Blazer Bookmarks > [-----snip-----] > Backed up Patience History > OK Backup > Sync completed successfully at 07/05/2006 23:37 (23:37:42) > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Sync starting at 08/05/2006 20:59 (20:59:45) on USB (5.1.0) > Using profile named: > OK Install > TimeCopy: host 2006/05/08 20:59:50, palm 2006/05/08 20:59:49, diff: 1s > OK TimeCopy > OK Mark/Space Contacts > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > -- > Don't anthropomorphise computers. > They hate that. > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your > subscribed email address to: > missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com From nettid1 at fastmail.fm Mon May 8 15:02:23 2006 From: nettid1 at fastmail.fm (zoara) Date: Mon May 8 15:02:32 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Turn off iCal alarms? Message-ID: <1647B27D-3B4C-43D5-88FD-3ADA87EEE68F@fastmail.fm> I apologise if this is off-topic, but it's caused by my syncing my Palm to iCal. I use my Palm for all my alarms, so iCal telling me to do things is just an annoyance. Is there any way I can turn off iCal alerts, even when iCal is running? Thanks, -zoara- -- "When you are a Bear of Very Little Brain, and Think of Things, you find sometimes that a Thing which seemed very Thingish inside you is quite different when it gets out into the open and has other people looking at it." - Winnie the Pooh From lktshop at yahoo.com.hk Tue May 9 03:59:05 2006 From: lktshop at yahoo.com.hk (LKT) Date: Tue May 9 19:43:02 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Chinese encoding In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20060509105905.43428.qmail@web35606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Does Missing Sync support Chinese encoding? I have CJKOS in my TX and since I have just bought an Intel iMac, need to find a way to sync the Chinese data in the TX to Address Book, iCal, and MobileDB in the desktop. I know this is a bit esoteric, but I do need to find a solution ASAP. Thansk in advance for your help. Ka Tai From sgruby at markspace.com Tue May 9 20:31:32 2006 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Tue May 9 20:31:37 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Chinese encoding In-Reply-To: <20060509105905.43428.qmail@web35606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060509105905.43428.qmail@web35606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On May 9, 2006, at 3:59 AM, LKT wrote: > > Does Missing Sync support Chinese encoding? I have > CJKOS in my TX and since I have just bought an Intel > iMac, need to find a way to sync the Chinese data in > the TX to Address Book, iCal, and MobileDB in the > desktop. > > I know this is a bit esoteric, but I do need to find a > solution ASAP. > > Thansk in advance for your help. > Yes, Missing Sync does support Chinese with CJKOS. Make sure that CJKOS is enabled at all times when syncing otherwise it won't work. Missing Sync will handle Chiense for iCal and AddressBook; we have no control over MobileDB, so I have no idea if Chinese will work with it. -- Scott Gruby Lead Engineer Mark/Space, Inc. Please visit for assistance with Mark/Space products. From bmcewen at comcast.net Wed May 10 08:34:17 2006 From: bmcewen at comcast.net (Brian McEwen) Date: Wed May 10 08:34:41 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] index(35) beyond bounds- every time, task dbase unopenable? Message-ID: <7BD0F81B-B8B4-430B-AA3F-457068617A1E@comcast.net> I get this message every time I sync, the first time I sync. A second attempt works fine, no error. Is there a known cause/solution? I saw this asked fairly recently but no answers. 10.4.5, MS 5.1.0 (131), Clie UX-50. Thanks, Brian ---------------- Sync starting at 5/10/06 11:20 AM (11:20:03) on Bluetooth (5.1.0) Using profile named: OK Install TimeCopy: host 2006/05/10 11:20:14, palm 2006/05/10 11:20:14, diff: 0s OK TimeCopy OK Mark/Space Contacts (Mark/Space MemoPad) NSRangeException *** -[NSCFArray objectAtIndex:]: index (35) beyond bounds (35) Task conduit was unable to open the Task database on the handheld. Failed Mark/Space Tasks (0x4403) OK Mark/Space Events OK Install Backed up AddressDB Backed up DatebookDB Backed up MemoDB Backed up Saved Preferences OK Backup Sync completed successfully at 5/10/06 11:22 AM (11:22:28) From sgruby at markspace.com Wed May 10 08:40:38 2006 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Wed May 10 08:40:55 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] index(35) beyond bounds- every time, task dbase unopenable? In-Reply-To: <7BD0F81B-B8B4-430B-AA3F-457068617A1E@comcast.net> References: <7BD0F81B-B8B4-430B-AA3F-457068617A1E@comcast.net> Message-ID: On May 10, 2006, at 8:34 AM, Brian McEwen wrote: > > > > I get this message every time I sync, the first time I sync. A > second attempt works fine, no error. > > Is there a known cause/solution? I saw this asked fairly recently > but no answers. > There is no known cause or solution for this. Please make sure that you contact support and work with them so that they can duplicate the issue and we can possibly fix it in a future release. Thanks. > 10.4.5, MS 5.1.0 (131), Clie UX-50. > > Thanks, > > Brian > > ---------------- > Sync starting at 5/10/06 11:20 AM (11:20:03) on Bluetooth (5.1.0) > Using profile named: > OK Install > TimeCopy: host 2006/05/10 11:20:14, palm 2006/05/10 11:20:14, diff: 0s > OK TimeCopy > OK Mark/Space Contacts > (Mark/Space MemoPad) NSRangeException *** -[NSCFArray > objectAtIndex:]: index (35) beyond bounds (35) > Task conduit was unable to open the Task database on the handheld. > Failed Mark/Space Tasks (0x4403) > OK Mark/Space Events > OK Install > Backed up AddressDB > Backed up DatebookDB > Backed up MemoDB > Backed up Saved Preferences > OK Backup > Sync completed successfully at 5/10/06 11:22 AM (11:22:28) > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your > subscribed email address to: > missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com > -- Scott Gruby Lead Engineer Mark/Space, Inc. Please visit for assistance with Mark/Space products. From bmcewen at comcast.net Wed May 10 08:46:38 2006 From: bmcewen at comcast.net (Brian McEwen) Date: Wed May 10 08:47:06 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] index(35) beyond bounds- every time, task dbase unopenable? In-Reply-To: References: <7BD0F81B-B8B4-430B-AA3F-457068617A1E@comcast.net> Message-ID: On May 10, 2006, at 11:40 AM, Scott Gruby wrote: > > On May 10, 2006, at 8:34 AM, Brian McEwen wrote: > >> >> >> >> I get this message every time I sync, the first time I sync. A >> second attempt works fine, no error. >> >> Is there a known cause/solution? I saw this asked fairly recently >> but no answers. >> > > There is no known cause or solution for this. Please make sure that > you contact support and work with them so that they can duplicate > the issue and we can possibly fix it in a future release. > > Thanks. Ok, will do. there are at least 2 mentions of this on the list here; so I do not feel picked upon. Just FYI when I say "first" I mean, the first time I sync to the Mac after synch to my PC desktop at work. Thanks, Brian From sgruby at markspace.com Wed May 10 08:48:52 2006 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Wed May 10 08:49:15 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] index(35) beyond bounds- every time, task dbase unopenable? In-Reply-To: References: <7BD0F81B-B8B4-430B-AA3F-457068617A1E@comcast.net> Message-ID: <77F90916-1AAC-4C1E-B93C-33979B09B5FE@markspace.com> On May 10, 2006, at 8:46 AM, Brian McEwen wrote: > > On May 10, 2006, at 11:40 AM, Scott Gruby wrote: > >> >> On May 10, 2006, at 8:34 AM, Brian McEwen wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> >>> I get this message every time I sync, the first time I sync. A >>> second attempt works fine, no error. >>> >>> Is there a known cause/solution? I saw this asked fairly >>> recently but no answers. >>> >> >> There is no known cause or solution for this. Please make sure >> that you contact support and work with them so that they can >> duplicate the issue and we can possibly fix it in a future release. >> >> Thanks. > > Ok, will do. there are at least 2 mentions of this on the list > here; so I do not feel picked upon. > > Just FYI when I say "first" I mean, the first time I sync to the > Mac after synch to my PC desktop at work. > Please make sure you mention that when contacting support as it could be part of the issue. -- Scott Gruby Lead Engineer Mark/Space, Inc. Please visit for assistance with Mark/Space products. From alan.schmitt at polytechnique.org Wed May 10 10:03:31 2006 From: alan.schmitt at polytechnique.org (Alan Schmitt) Date: Wed May 10 10:03:58 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] index(35) beyond bounds- every time, task dbase unopenable? In-Reply-To: References: <7BD0F81B-B8B4-430B-AA3F-457068617A1E@comcast.net> Message-ID: On 10 mai 06, at 17:40, Scott Gruby wrote: > > On May 10, 2006, at 8:34 AM, Brian McEwen wrote: > >> >> >> >> I get this message every time I sync, the first time I sync. A >> second attempt works fine, no error. >> >> Is there a known cause/solution? I saw this asked fairly recently >> but no answers. >> > > There is no known cause or solution for this. Please make sure that > you contact support and work with them so that they can duplicate > the issue and we can possibly fix it in a future release. I had the same issue and MS support was able to replicate it with my data (it's support #620759). I haven't found a workaround and have just stopped synchronizing memos for the moment, unfortunately. -- Alan Schmitt The hacker: someone who figured things out and made something cool happen. .O. ..O OOO From danielg at bu.edu Wed May 10 19:33:38 2006 From: danielg at bu.edu (Daniel Goldenholz) Date: Wed May 10 19:34:21 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Copying music? You may need to sync more than once for some reason, Message-ID: <4462A282.9030000@bu.edu> I added some songs to itunes, and tried to sync. ALL my songs now get this weird error... Unable to install file "filename.m4a" (err=0x2A08). The handheld may not be able to play that format. I then re-synced 4 times. On the 4th try, it started to work. Of note, between the 3rd and 4th try, I ran Aeroplayer and quit it without playing any music. WEIRD. D From sgruby at markspace.com Wed May 10 19:45:36 2006 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Wed May 10 19:45:42 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Copying music? You may need to sync more than once for some reason, In-Reply-To: <4462A282.9030000@bu.edu> References: <4462A282.9030000@bu.edu> Message-ID: <40783F76-F1C3-4DC0-B174-CB13F9B4184F@markspace.com> On May 10, 2006, at 7:33 PM, Daniel Goldenholz wrote: > I added some songs to itunes, and tried to sync. ALL my songs now > get this weird error... > > Unable to install file "filename.m4a" (err=0x2A08). The handheld > may not be able to play that format. > > I then re-synced 4 times. On the 4th try, it started to work. Of > note, between the 3rd and 4th try, I ran Aeroplayer and quit it > without playing any music. > > WEIRD. > Actually it isn't all that weird. When we install files to the handheld, we ask the device what types of files it can handle (based on extension). Applications, such as Aeroplayer register to handle certain file types. When you first synced, we asked the device if it could handle a .m4a file and it said no, so we couldn't install it. When you ran Aeroplayer, it registered to handle .m4a files and then when you synced again, when we asked if .m4a files could be handled, the device said yes and told us where to put them. Aeroplayer should re-register each time the device is soft reset, but it may not (if it doesn't, then this would be a bug in Aeroplayer). I hope that this explains why you couldn't initially sync. -- Scott Gruby Lead Engineer Mark/Space, Inc. Please visit for assistance with Mark/Space products. From bmcewen at comcast.net Wed May 10 21:05:24 2006 From: bmcewen at comcast.net (Brian McEwen) Date: Wed May 10 21:05:57 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Q about synching to PC Message-ID: I understand that this is the MS list, but since you have to cope with what the PC synch create as well: What does the "resynch" option do, when synching with Intellisynch Lite on the PC and data on the PDA installled by MS? I had new dates on the Clie UX50, which were put there by MS, after being created in iCal. Synchs to the PDA had gone fine; synch from PDA to PC were strange- synch both ways was working in a fashion, but some calendar events that were unique to the PC were being marked as to be deleted on the PC (others would move to the PDA as they should) and some dates on the PDA that had been created on the Mac, were being marked as to be deleted from the PDA (while others would move to the PC as they should) (as an aside, it would be nice to be able to display what will happen with dates etc. in MS dring a synch as I can in Intellisynch). I let this synch occur once, and lost dates on all sides; the second time, I chose "resynch" in Intellisynch Lite after I'd displayed the details (which were showing that dates would be deleted inappropriately again) and now, all seems fine with new items no matter Mac or PC. Thanks, Brian From e_commerce at mac.com Thu May 11 13:38:25 2006 From: e_commerce at mac.com (E-Commerce) Date: Thu May 11 13:38:31 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Problems subscribing/unsubscribing Message-ID: I've been trying for the last few days to unsubscribe this e-mail address and subscribe another. I have never gotten any confirmation e- mails or other signs that anything is happening. Is something wrong with the mailing list system? - Joshua Ochs From glenn at docproc.com Thu May 11 14:03:55 2006 From: glenn at docproc.com (Glenn Proctor) Date: Thu May 11 14:03:59 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Problems subscribing/unsubscribing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 11 May 2006, at 21:38, E-Commerce wrote: > I've been trying for the last few days to unsubscribe this e-mail > address and subscribe another. I have never gotten any confirmation > e-mails or other signs that anything is happening. Is something > wrong with the mailing list system? I've seen the same thing - I've sent a couple of unsubscribe emails (to missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com, as specified in the footer of each message) but I still get messages from the list. Regards Glenn. From lktshop at yahoo.com.hk Fri May 12 19:48:48 2006 From: lktshop at yahoo.com.hk (LKT) Date: Fri May 12 19:49:13 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Chinese encoding In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20060513024849.30621.qmail@web35604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thanks for your prompt reply. I have been out of town, hence the late response. What I have been doing is to use iSync with Palm Encoding Setup for AddressBook and iCal, MobileDB seems to be handled by the Palm Desktop conduit manager. Does Missing Sync disable the Palm Desktop? Does Palm Desktop work with Intel Macs? Ka Tai --- Scott Gruby wrote: > > On May 9, 2006, at 3:59 AM, LKT wrote: > > > > > Does Missing Sync support Chinese encoding? I have > > CJKOS in my TX and since I have just bought an > Intel > > iMac, need to find a way to sync the Chinese data > in > > the TX to Address Book, iCal, and MobileDB in the > > desktop. > > > > I know this is a bit esoteric, but I do need to > find a > > solution ASAP. > > > > Thansk in advance for your help. > > > > Yes, Missing Sync does support Chinese with CJKOS. > Make sure that > CJKOS is enabled at all times when syncing otherwise > it won't work. > Missing Sync will handle Chiense for iCal and > AddressBook; we have no > control over MobileDB, so I have no idea if Chinese > will work with it. > > -- > Scott Gruby > Lead Engineer > Mark/Space, Inc. > > > Please visit for > assistance with > Mark/Space products. > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) > from your subscribed email address to: > missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com > From gavinwj at wanadoo.fr Sat May 13 15:07:47 2006 From: gavinwj at wanadoo.fr (Gavin Wynford-Jones) Date: Sat May 13 15:07:44 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Categories on the Palm In-Reply-To: References: <1FEB5BA5-233F-443F-8B13-0EFD829089EE@mac.com> <284113F0-8635-4C54-8C30-D955AB39089B@wanadoo.fr> Message-ID: This is really two questions in one. I want to change the name of the Home calendar in iCal to Personal. What will happen on the Palm end at the next sync if I do? There's nothing in the manual about this... (And isync's help doesn't have anything to say about this, either...) I haven't done this yet, though, because in checking the available categories in the date book on the Palm, I discovered that some were duplicated. So I have two Home, two Birthdays from Palm, two Work, but just one Business and one Unfiled... Is this normal...? If not, how should I fix it without having to re-categorise everything? I'll be very grateful for any help and advice, folks! Gavin From jzurek at cabrini.edu Sun May 14 06:57:55 2006 From: jzurek at cabrini.edu (Jerry Zurek) Date: Sun May 14 06:57:57 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] USB sync In-Reply-To: <4440dffd.60ef0119.2ba0.00bbSMTPIN_ADDED@mx.gmail.com> References: <4440dffd.60ef0119.2ba0.00bbSMTPIN_ADDED@mx.gmail.com> Message-ID: <60f312500605140657g4c78c69ej7ee7eb52571f7471@mail.gmail.com> Has there been a resolution to questions about USB sync with Treo 650s? In the past, logging out and then logging in allowed USB syncs to work. Now this has stopped being my method to get syncing to start. Secondly, the Treo card is no longer mounting using Missing Sync on the Treo. Only Bluetooth syncs work reliably. Thanks, Jerry Zurek On 4/15/06, Richard Totaro wrote: > > I am having a strange problem with my Powerbook/Treo 650/MissingSync > failng to launch its sync. > > MS5 always launches a BlueTooth Sync. It always mounts the SD card > onto the desktop but almost never will laucn a USB sync, whether > launed by the button on the cable, or by the screen button. > > The only time I canget USB to launch a sync is by 1) having treo ON 2) > plugging USB into powerbook 3) plugging cable into Treo (with power > cable in) 4) bluetooth sync 5) USB sync. This will often -but not > always, work. Rebboting, restarting MS etc. do not consistently work. > I have used powered hubs and no hubs too and kept > > Any ideas? > Richard T > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your subscribed > email address to: > missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com > -- Thanks, Jerry Zurek From davidturley at pobox.com Sun May 14 14:14:37 2006 From: davidturley at pobox.com (David Turley) Date: Sun May 14 14:14:40 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] iCal borked, macfixit implicates Missing Sync Message-ID: iCal went belly up for me. When it launches I get a blank calendar, no events no list of calendars. Console shows: 2006-05-14 17:04:54.920 iCal[3358] *** NSThread: ignoring exception ' In /SourceCache/CALCore/CALCore-685/src/entities/abstract/CALEntity.m (1117):-[CALEntity expandOnTimeRange:](): ?|t' that raised during delayed perform of target 0x55ec50 and selector 'setupRepositories' If I click on a view to change the view, the events show up, but no calendar list. I've found two articles mentioning these symptoms on Macfixit (which I just paid for to research this issue). Both times it mentions that users reporting this are using Missing Sync. So now I can't use iCal on my desktop, which means using only my Treo, which I guess means I don't need M/S any longer. :-( From davidturley at pobox.com Sun May 14 14:21:25 2006 From: davidturley at pobox.com (David Turley) Date: Sun May 14 14:21:29 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] A hidden 5.1.0b14 feature you can test... In-Reply-To: <440E39E1.90502@markspace.com> References: <440E39E1.90502@markspace.com> Message-ID: I tried this and it did nothing. I started with a blank iCal, synced, and still had a blank iCal. MS 5.10 released version. On Mar 7, 2006, at 8:56 PM, Maurice Sharp wrote: > Hi folks, > > First off, let me introduce myself. My name is Maurice Sharp, and I > recently joined MarkSpace, Inc. As Director of Operations, I am > responsible for customer support, IT, and whatever else needs > doing :-) > > I am a veteran of the hand-held space, having spent 5 years at Newton, > and 5 more at Palm/PalmSource (the PalmPilot Professional was just > getting introduced when I joined.) In both of those places I did > and/or > managed Developer Technical Support (and a lot more.) > > I am really excited to be a part of a company committed to > providing the best handheld experience for Macintosh users. > > > Now, onto the hidden feature... > > By using the Command Line, you can enable the "Handheld overwrites > desktop" option in the Settings for the Missing Sync conduits: Mark/ > Space Contacts, Mark/Space Events, Mark/Space MemoPad, and Mark/ > Space Tasks. > > BEWARE: you will be overwriting the Apple Sync Services Master > Database. That means the data from the handheld will be written > to .Mac and anything else that uses Sync Services. > > We invite you to try this new feature and provide feedback to us. > We are debating whether the final version of 5.1 should have this > feature on by default, or have it hidden so support can activate it > as needed. > > Please let us know what you think and why. > > The feature is controlled by a preference which can be turned on, > or removed using the "defaults" command in the Terminal > application. Missing Sync must be closed for the change to take > effect. > > > To turn ON the feature, quit The Missing Sync and copy and paste > this line into the terminal window and press return: > > defaults write com.markspace.missingsync.palmos > "AllowHandheldOverwritesDesktop" -int 1 > > > To turn OFF the feature, quit The Missing Sync, then copy and paste > this line into the terminal window and press return: > > defaults delete com.markspace.missingsync.palmos > "AllowHandheldOverwritesDesktop" > > > We look forward to your feedback, > Maurice Sharp > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives > can be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk From sgruby at markspace.com Sun May 14 15:41:41 2006 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Sun May 14 15:41:45 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] A hidden 5.1.0b14 feature you can test... In-Reply-To: References: <440E39E1.90502@markspace.com> Message-ID: On May 14, 2006, at 2:21 PM, David Turley wrote: > I tried this and it did nothing. I started with a blank iCal, > synced, and still had a blank iCal. > > MS 5.10 released version. > This feature was removed in the final version of Missing Sync for Palm OS 5.1. After much debate and analysis, we determined that this feature has potentially disastrous consequences due to our interaction with Apple's Sync Services. If and when Apple provides a sanctioned method for handling this scenario, we will re-visit the feature. I'm sure that some people will be disappointed with this and others will say that it worked fine, but after some of our own internal testing showed how easily a user could wipe out ALL of his data, we decided to remove the feature. >> Now, onto the hidden feature... >> >> By using the Command Line, you can enable the "Handheld overwrites >> desktop" option in the Settings for the Missing Sync conduits: >> Mark/Space Contacts, Mark/Space Events, Mark/Space MemoPad, and >> Mark/Space Tasks. >> >> BEWARE: you will be overwriting the Apple Sync Services Master >> Database. That means the data from the handheld will be written >> to .Mac and anything else that uses Sync Services. >> >> We invite you to try this new feature and provide feedback to us. >> We are debating whether the final version of 5.1 should have this >> feature on by default, or have it hidden so support can activate >> it as needed. >> >> Please let us know what you think and why. >> >> The feature is controlled by a preference which can be turned on, >> or removed using the "defaults" command in the Terminal >> application. Missing Sync must be closed for the change to take >> effect. >> >> >> To turn ON the feature, quit The Missing Sync and copy and paste >> this line into the terminal window and press return: >> >> defaults write com.markspace.missingsync.palmos >> "AllowHandheldOverwritesDesktop" -int 1 >> >> >> To turn OFF the feature, quit The Missing Sync, then copy and >> paste this line into the terminal window and press return: >> >> defaults delete com.markspace.missingsync.palmos >> "AllowHandheldOverwritesDesktop" -- Scott Gruby Mark/Space, Inc. Please visit for assistance with Mark/Space products. From davidturley at pobox.com Sun May 14 17:17:47 2006 From: davidturley at pobox.com (David Turley) Date: Sun May 14 17:17:51 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] iCal borked, macfixit implicates Missing Sync In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4847D73B-15B1-4914-AC56-30A277BDDEED@pobox.com> One time when I ran M/S the calendar listing appeared. On iCal restart it was borked again. I've tried the solutions offered on macfixit with no luck. Seems I've backed myself into a corner by using Missing Sync, even if I was to get iCal working again (which I doubt) I can't get the good events from the Treo to the desktop. On May 14, 2006, at 5:14 PM, David Turley wrote: > iCal went belly up for me. When it launches I get a blank calendar, > no events no list of calendars. Console shows: > > 2006-05-14 17:04:54.920 iCal[3358] *** NSThread: ignoring exception ' > In /SourceCache/CALCore/CALCore-685/src/entities/abstract/ > CALEntity.m(1117):-[CALEntity expandOnTimeRange:](): ?|t' that > raised during delayed perform of target 0x55ec50 and selector > 'setupRepositories' > > > If I click on a view to change the view, the events show up, but no > calendar list. I've found two articles mentioning these symptoms on > Macfixit (which I just paid for to research this issue). Both times > it mentions that users reporting this are using Missing Sync. > > So now I can't use iCal on my desktop, which means using only my > Treo, which I guess means I don't need M/S any longer. :-( > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your > subscribed email address to: > missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com > From davidturley at pobox.com Sun May 14 19:38:45 2006 From: davidturley at pobox.com (David Turley) Date: Sun May 14 19:38:50 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] iCal borked, macfixit implicates Missing Sync In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I removed the calendar files from ~/Library/Application Support/iCal/ Sources/ Launched iSync and reset the sync history I then synced and accepted all the changes. I've synced several times and M/S keeps giving this message in the log: ------------------------------------------------------------------ Sync starting at 5/14/06 10:26 PM (22:26:06) on USB (5.1.0) OK Mark/Space Contacts OK Mark/Space Events OK Mark/Space MemoPad This conduit cannot be synchronized because there are no writable calendars available to synchronize. To correct this, select a writable calendar in the conduit's configuration window. No writable calendars exist OK Mark/Space Tasks with 2 message(s) Sync completed successfully at 5/14/06 10:27 PM (22:27:45) First is days OK for Events, the says no writable calendars exit later. What do I need to do now? iCal is showing all my calendars. Unfortunately last time I got it to show the calendars they disappeared on the next launch of iCal. I'm not quitting iCal until the "no writeable calendars" error is fixed. I do have all my calendars selected in the conduit. On May 14, 2006, at 5:14 PM, David Turley wrote: > iCal went belly up for me. When it launches I get a blank calendar, > no events no list of calendars. Console shows: > > 2006-05-14 17:04:54.920 iCal[3358] *** NSThread: ignoring exception ' > In /SourceCache/CALCore/CALCore-685/src/entities/abstract/ > CALEntity.m(1117):-[CALEntity expandOnTimeRange:](): ?|t' that > raised during delayed perform of target 0x55ec50 and selector > 'setupRepositories' > > > If I click on a view to change the view, the events show up, but no > calendar list. I've found two articles mentioning these symptoms on > Macfixit (which I just paid for to research this issue). Both times > it mentions that users reporting this are using Missing Sync. > > So now I can't use iCal on my desktop, which means using only my > Treo, which I guess means I don't need M/S any longer. :-( > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your > subscribed email address to: > missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com > From davidturley at pobox.com Mon May 15 04:35:10 2006 From: davidturley at pobox.com (David Turley) Date: Mon May 15 04:35:15 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] iCal borked, macfixit implicates Missing Sync In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Through trial and error I figured out that the sync error was in the Tasks conduit. I re-selected calendars. Still haven't figured out why iCal is losing calendar data On May 14, 2006, at 10:38 PM, David Turley wrote: > I've synced several times and M/S keeps giving this message in the > log: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Sync starting at 5/14/06 10:26 PM (22:26:06) on USB (5.1.0) > OK Mark/Space Contacts > OK Mark/Space Events > OK Mark/Space MemoPad > This conduit cannot be synchronized because there are no writable > calendars available to synchronize. To correct this, select a > writable calendar in the conduit's configuration window. > No writable calendars exist > OK Mark/Space Tasks with 2 message(s) > Sync completed successfully at 5/14/06 10:27 PM (22:27:45) iCal: > iCal went belly up for me. When it launches I get a blank calendar, > no events no list of calendars. Console shows: > > 2006-05-14 17:04:54.920 iCal[3358] *** NSThread: ignoring exception ' > In /SourceCache/CALCore/CALCore-685/src/entities/abstract/ > CALEntity.m(1117):-[CALEntity expandOnTimeRange:](): ?|t' that > raised during delayed perform of target 0x55ec50 and selector > 'setupRepositories' From bcriscuolo at markspace.com Mon May 15 05:56:27 2006 From: bcriscuolo at markspace.com (Brian M. Criscuolo) Date: Mon May 15 05:56:31 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Categories on the Palm In-Reply-To: References: <1FEB5BA5-233F-443F-8B13-0EFD829089EE@mac.com> <284113F0-8635-4C54-8C30-D955AB39089B@wanadoo.fr> Message-ID: <768DF476-082F-4154-A6E1-DBAA132CAF2E@markspace.com> Hi Gavin, Unfortunately, changing the desktop calendar name will not cause all the events contained in it to be refreshed, so we won't process the change (and update the records to have a new category). The *best* way to do this would be to update the name of the calendar in iCal and then set the events and tasks conduits to Desktop Overwrites Handheld. After that, subsequent syncs will be clean. Doing the DT overwrites will also take care of all those duplicate categories on the Palm. b On May 13, 2006, at 3:07 PM, Gavin Wynford-Jones wrote: > This is really two questions in one. > > I want to change the name of the Home calendar in iCal to Personal. > What will happen on the Palm end at the next sync if I do? There's > nothing in the manual about this... (And isync's help doesn't have > anything to say about this, either...) > > I haven't done this yet, though, because in checking the available > categories in the date book on the Palm, I discovered that some > were duplicated. So I have two Home, two Birthdays from Palm, two > Work, but just one Business and one Unfiled... Is this normal...? > If not, how should I fix it without having to re-categorise > everything? > > I'll be very grateful for any help and advice, folks! > > Gavin > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your > subscribed email address to: > missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com ******************** Brian M. Criscuolo Senior Software Engineer Mark/Space, Inc. bcriscuolo@markspace.com From davidturley at pobox.com Mon May 15 17:49:23 2006 From: davidturley at pobox.com (David Turley) Date: Mon May 15 17:49:29 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] iCal borked, macfixit implicates Missing Sync In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9F532D57-50F2-4125-B939-1CD9AB591596@pobox.com> After a few more syncs iCal is once again borked. M/S has an error right before iCal: 2006-05-15 16:26:45.125 Missing Sync for Palm OS[19730] *** - [MSpConduitAccessor path]: selector not recognized [self = 0x1882c00] 2006-05-15 16:26:45.126 Missing Sync for Palm OS[19730] *** - [MSpConduitAccessor path]: selector not recognized [self = 0x1882c00] May 15 16:27:04 geodude crashdump[19787]: SystemUIServer crashed 2006-05-15 16:27:15.003 SystemUIServer[19789] lang is:en May 15 16:27:16 geodude crashdump[19787]: crash report written to: / Users/david/Library/Logs/CrashReporter/SystemUIServer.crash.log 2006-05-15 16:29:18.920 iCal[19953] Exception raised during posting of notification. Ignored. exception: In /SourceCache/CALCore/CALCore-685/src/entities/abstract/CALEntity.m (1117):-[CALEntity expandOnTimeRange:](): ?|t On May 15, 2006, at 7:35 AM, David Turley wrote: > Through trial and error I figured out that the sync error was in > the Tasks conduit. I re-selected calendars. > > Still haven't figured out why iCal is losing calendar data > On May 14, 2006, at 10:38 PM, David Turley wrote: > >> I've synced several times and M/S keeps giving this message in the >> log: >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Sync starting at 5/14/06 10:26 PM (22:26:06) on USB (5.1.0) >> OK Mark/Space Contacts >> OK Mark/Space Events >> OK Mark/Space MemoPad >> This conduit cannot be synchronized because there are no writable >> calendars available to synchronize. To correct this, select a >> writable calendar in the conduit's configuration window. >> No writable calendars exist >> OK Mark/Space Tasks with 2 message(s) >> Sync completed successfully at 5/14/06 10:27 PM (22:27:45) > > > iCal: > >> iCal went belly up for me. When it launches I get a blank >> calendar, no events no list of calendars. Console shows: >> >> 2006-05-14 17:04:54.920 iCal[3358] *** NSThread: ignoring exception ' >> In /SourceCache/CALCore/CALCore-685/src/entities/abstract/ >> CALEntity.m(1117):-[CALEntity expandOnTimeRange:](): ?|t' that >> raised during delayed perform of target 0x55ec50 and selector >> 'setupRepositories' > From bcriscuolo at markspace.com Tue May 16 06:22:56 2006 From: bcriscuolo at markspace.com (Brian M. Criscuolo) Date: Tue May 16 06:23:02 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] iCal de-dupe: Kill iCal duplicates Message-ID: <96812A75-B61B-46D2-AEDF-20C0338A832E@markspace.com> I just saw this come through my RSS reader: http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/05/16/ical-de-dupe-kill-ical-duplicates/ It looks like it could be of use to some of you who end up with duplicates. As always, BACK UP FIRST! I've never tried this, but I suspect that it *could* delete data you don't want deleted. b ******************** Brian M. Criscuolo Senior Software Engineer Mark/Space, Inc. bcriscuolo@markspace.com From lists at mostrom.pp.se Tue May 16 07:06:42 2006 From: lists at mostrom.pp.se (=?UTF-8?Q?Jan_Erik_Mostr=C3=B6?= =?UTF-8?Q?m?=) Date: Tue May 16 07:06:46 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Force Palm => Mac sync Message-ID: I seem to remember that there was a way to force a Palm overwrites Mac during sync ... do I remember wrong? -- Jan Erik Mostr?m, www.mostrom.pp.se From sgruby at markspace.com Tue May 16 07:21:53 2006 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Tue May 16 07:22:00 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Force Palm => Mac sync In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On May 16, 2006, at 7:06 AM, Jan Erik Mostr?m wrote: > I seem to remember that there was a way to force a Palm overwrites > Mac during > sync ... do I remember wrong? This was a feature we were testing in the 5.1 betas, but have since removed. Please see: -- Scott Gruby Mark/Space, Inc. Please visit for assistance with Mark/Space products. From crussell at markspace.com Tue May 16 07:30:00 2006 From: crussell at markspace.com (Catherine Russell) Date: Tue May 16 07:30:08 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] iCal de-dupe: Kill iCal duplicates In-Reply-To: <96812A75-B61B-46D2-AEDF-20C0338A832E@markspace.com> References: <96812A75-B61B-46D2-AEDF-20C0338A832E@markspace.com> Message-ID: <6FD23AA7-9A50-47F1-87EE-BF57DFC46580@markspace.com> Also, there are a couple of other available scripts for removing duplicates in iCal and Address Book on your Mac which you can download from the Mark/Space Knowledgebase: http://www.markspace.com/support/index.php?x=&mod_id=2&root=129&id=2595 As Brian says, BACK UP before running these scripts - to be on the safe side. Information on how to back up your data is available at: http://www.markspace.com/support/index.php?x=&mod_id=2&root=129&id=2598 Catherine On May 16, 2006, at 6:22 AM, Brian M. Criscuolo wrote: > I just saw this come through my RSS reader: > > http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/05/16/ical-de-dupe-kill-ical-duplicates/ > > It looks like it could be of use to some of you who end up with > duplicates. > > As always, BACK UP FIRST! I've never tried this, but I suspect that > it *could* delete data you don't want deleted. > > b > > ******************** > Brian M. Criscuolo > Senior Software Engineer > Mark/Space, Inc. > bcriscuolo@markspace.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your > subscribed email address to: > missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com From bmcewen at comcast.net Tue May 16 07:43:26 2006 From: bmcewen at comcast.net (bmcewen@comcast.net) Date: Tue May 16 07:43:30 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] sync to .mac, just one calendar Message-ID: <051620061443.6161.4469E50E00043F1A000018112205886172020A990A0C030D@comcast.net> Hi all; I have been thinking about synching my "personal" calendar to .mac so that my wife and I can have a web calendar to help keep track of dates. I use my UX-50 to synch to Outlook (PC) at work, G4 laptop, and then would add .mac. I recall reading about issues synching to .mac then using MS, if this something I should try, or should avoid? I don't want all my work stuff to end up on .mac, it would be too cluttered, so prefer to just move the ones marked as non-work dates. Is there a good way to do this, and if there is, does it work reliably enough to be recommended? Thanks for advice; Brian From lists at mostrom.pp.se Tue May 16 10:33:46 2006 From: lists at mostrom.pp.se (=?UTF-8?Q?Jan_Erik_Mostr=C3=B6?= =?UTF-8?Q?m?=) Date: Tue May 16 10:33:49 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Force Palm => Mac sync In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Scott Gruby 2006-05-16 16:21: > This was a feature we were testing in the 5.1 betas, but have since > removed. Please see: sync-palmos-talk/2006-May/008092.html> Hmmm, I've got a user for which it seems impossible to get HotSync to work. He has been using his Palm for calendaring etc and now he wants to start to use Missing Sync. How should he proceed? jem -- Jan Erik Mostr?m, www.mostrom.pp.se From sgruby at markspace.com Tue May 16 10:52:28 2006 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Tue May 16 10:52:35 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Force Palm => Mac sync In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Our support team has put together some articles to help: On May 16, 2006, at 10:33 AM, Jan Erik Mostr?m wrote: > Scott Gruby 2006-05-16 16:21: > >> This was a feature we were testing in the 5.1 betas, but have since >> removed. Please see: > sync-palmos-talk/2006-May/008092.html> > > Hmmm, I've got a user for which it seems impossible to get HotSync > to work. > He has been using his Palm for calendaring etc and now he wants to > start to > use Missing Sync. How should he proceed? > > > jem > -- > Jan Erik Mostr?m, www.mostrom.pp.se > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your > subscribed email address to: > missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com > -- Scott Gruby Mark/Space, Inc. Please visit for assistance with Mark/Space products. From clint_schuyler at hotmail.com Tue May 16 12:53:40 2006 From: clint_schuyler at hotmail.com (Clint Schuyler) Date: Tue May 16 12:53:47 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Sync Palm T5 with two computers Message-ID: Hello, With Palm HotSync it was necessary to set the conduits on the secondary computer so that the Palm would over wright the computer. The Palm would only do an actual sync with the primary computer. How do I do this with Missing Sync? Thanks for your help. Clint From haazmatt at gmail.com Wed May 17 16:16:23 2006 From: haazmatt at gmail.com (Haazmatt) Date: Wed May 17 16:16:24 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] can I disable auto syncing to .Mac Message-ID: Hi - Is is possible to only do manual syncs to .Mac with iSync and still sync my desktop with my Treo? Here is my situation: I use entourage for calendar (and tasks) and Address book for contacts. I'm using sync services with entourage so I'm not using the entourage conduit - it's set to only sync events and tasks. I have a .Mac account that I use for contact syncing only. Whenever I do a hotsync (with Missing Sync) it also does a .Mac iSync and therefore takes a long time. I suspect that it may be entourage that is forcing the iSync. But I can't find a way to disable it. I had this all working will before Missing sync where I used the iSync conduit for contacts and the entourage conduit for calendar and tasks (and didn't use sync services with entourage). But Missing sync don't like that. Any ideas? Thanks in advance, -Matt -- haazmatt@gmail.com From davidturley at pobox.com Wed May 17 18:06:22 2006 From: davidturley at pobox.com (David Turley) Date: Wed May 17 18:06:26 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] strange console entry Message-ID: <57D7A333-80DE-4D49-A152-A5C16A7952F2@pobox.com> Should I be concerned? 2006-05-17 20:34:02.337 Missing Sync for Palm OS[9315] ERROR: Attempt to set dropRow=0, dropOperation=NSTableViewDropOn when [0 - 0] is valid range of rows. 2006-05-17 20:34:02.337 Missing Sync for Palm OS[9315] ERROR: Attempt to set dropRow=0, dropOperation=NSTableViewDropOn when [0 - 0] is valid range of rows. From danielg at bu.edu Thu May 18 10:16:01 2006 From: danielg at bu.edu (Daniel Goldenholz) Date: Thu May 18 10:16:06 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] backup? In-Reply-To: <57D7A333-80DE-4D49-A152-A5C16A7952F2@pobox.com> References: <57D7A333-80DE-4D49-A152-A5C16A7952F2@pobox.com> Message-ID: <446CABD1.50404@bu.edu> There is a program which (sadly) is only available via a Windows PC. (mobile micromedex). What I have done is set up a PC and my Mac with Missing Sync, both of which help keep my Palm in shape. Really, Missing Sync does all the hard work, and the PC simply updates that one program. But the backup process seems to have failed when backing up the PC program. Can I selectively exclude an item from backup? D From ucgajpd at ucl.ac.uk Thu May 18 19:07:19 2006 From: ucgajpd at ucl.ac.uk (Jason Davies) Date: Thu May 18 19:07:20 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] turning off the Tasks alert Message-ID: can I stop the mac pausing my hotsync with the '5 items will be modified' warning every time I sync my to-do list?:-) it's really...uh, paranoid. cheers From jum at mac.com Thu May 18 22:17:04 2006 From: jum at mac.com (Jens Miltner) Date: Thu May 18 22:17:22 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] turning off the Tasks alert In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Am 19.5.06 um 04:07 schrieb Jason Davies: > can I stop the mac pausing my hotsync with the '5 items will be > modified' warning every time I sync my to-do list?:-) it's > really...uh, paranoid. Hmmh, maybe it's paranoid, but I prefer to be paranoid when syncing my data with multiple devices ;-) Anyway, if you launch iSync, there's a setting in the preferences to specify the warning threshold and you can even completely turn it off there. HTH, From ucgajpd at ucl.ac.uk Fri May 19 01:29:10 2006 From: ucgajpd at ucl.ac.uk (Jason Davies) Date: Fri May 19 01:29:15 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] turning off the Tasks alert In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >Anyway, if you launch iSync, there's a setting in the preferences to >specify the warning threshold and you can even completely turn it off >there. thanks. I didn't think of iSync (since I never use it..!). From bcriscuolo at markspace.com Fri May 19 05:56:04 2006 From: bcriscuolo at markspace.com (Brian M. Criscuolo) Date: Fri May 19 05:56:19 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] turning off the Tasks alert In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <478B5D82-A262-4BD9-8B6A-D116AC5790B7@markspace.com> iSync still controls a few of the settings used by Sync Services (the data change alert, if synchronizing is on or off, and resetting the sync history). b On May 19, 2006, at 4:29 AM, Jason Davies wrote: >> Anyway, if you launch iSync, there's a setting in the preferences to >> specify the warning threshold and you can even completely turn it off >> there. > > thanks. I didn't think of iSync (since I never use it..!). > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your > subscribed email address to: > missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com ******************** Brian M. Criscuolo Senior Software Engineer Mark/Space, Inc. bcriscuolo@markspace.com From Patricia at patriciawarwick.com Fri May 19 09:10:15 2006 From: Patricia at patriciawarwick.com (Patricia@patriciawarwick.com) Date: Fri May 19 09:10:21 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] turning off the Tasks alert In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Not only paranoid, but very frustrating when one is doing a wireless sync (e.g. using Bluetooth) when the PDA stalls but does not say why ... requiring one to go to the Desktop to investigate. I've raised this as an issue before and was told that there is no way for MissingSync to know this has happened and inform the user. Arrggghhh! On Fri, 19 May 2006 03:07:19 +0100 Jason Davies wrote: > can I stop the mac pausing my hotsync with the '5 items >will be modified' warning every time I sync my to-do >list?:-) it's really...uh, paranoid. From bcriscuolo at markspace.com Fri May 19 09:14:54 2006 From: bcriscuolo at markspace.com (Brian M. Criscuolo) Date: Fri May 19 09:14:57 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] turning off the Tasks alert In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <42277D5F-3157-4888-B860-1B88769EC1BC@markspace.com> Very true - aside from turning off the data change alert, it will come up. It happens when our conduit enters Sync Service's "mingling" phase, where records from the device are merged with records already in the sync engine. The problem you describe is a large pain in the neck. b On May 19, 2006, at 12:10 PM, wrote: > Not only paranoid, but very frustrating when one is doing a > wireless sync (e.g. using Bluetooth) when the PDA stalls but does > not say why ... requiring one to go to the Desktop to investigate. > I've raised this as an issue before and was told that there is no > way for MissingSync to know this has happened and inform the user. > Arrggghhh! > > On Fri, 19 May 2006 03:07:19 +0100 > Jason Davies wrote: >> can I stop the mac pausing my hotsync with the '5 items will be >> modified' warning every time I sync my to-do list?:-) it's >> really...uh, paranoid. > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your > subscribed email address to: > missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com ******************** Brian M. Criscuolo Senior Software Engineer Mark/Space, Inc. bcriscuolo@markspace.com From bmcewen at comcast.net Fri May 19 10:23:37 2006 From: bmcewen at comcast.net (Brian McEwen) Date: Fri May 19 10:23:38 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] turning off the Tasks alert In-Reply-To: <42277D5F-3157-4888-B860-1B88769EC1BC@markspace.com> References: <42277D5F-3157-4888-B860-1B88769EC1BC@markspace.com> Message-ID: <7570467A-278B-4CD7-8E46-027F0BA580E6@comcast.net> On May 19, 2006, at 12:14 PM, Brian M. Criscuolo wrote: > Very true - aside from turning off the data change alert, it will > come up. It happens when our conduit enters Sync Service's > "mingling" phase, where records from the device are merged with > records already in the sync engine. > > The problem you describe is a large pain in the neck. > > b I would not mind it if it would give me the choice to DISPLAY the things that were going to be changed; as the PC Intellisync provides. This has been invaluable in letting me abort a sync when huge things were going to happen (bad things). In those cases, resync'ing and then previewing changes again resulted in appropriate data changes. People here posting about iCal being wiped out-- that would not happen if you could see what was going to happen before finalizing. I know you guys can't control iSync but if you could build this into the MarkSpace part that would be huge. -B From robynphillips at email.com Fri May 19 23:43:15 2006 From: robynphillips at email.com (Robyn Phillips) Date: Sat May 20 05:44:00 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: USB sync In-Reply-To: <60f312500605140657g4c78c69ej7ee7eb52571f7471@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: on 14/5/06 23:57, Jerry Zurek wrote: > Has there been a resolution to questions about USB sync with Treo 650s? In > the past, logging out and then logging in allowed USB syncs to work. Now > this has stopped being my method to get syncing to start. Secondly, the Treo > card is no longer mounting using Missing Sync on the Treo. Only Bluetooth > syncs work reliably. > Jerry, Can you check the USB cable with another computer and/or Treo device? I have recently found that two of my cables were not working with my Mac, although one of them works fine with PC, the other refuses to budge. I have also seen a Treo 650 with a dodgy connection at the cable/charging end. This meant that regardless of the cable, we had problems using the USB cable with that particular Treo. Robyn From fernnemenyi at mac.com Sat May 20 12:39:45 2006 From: fernnemenyi at mac.com (Fern Nemenyi) Date: Sat May 20 12:39:54 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: missing-sync-palmos-talk Digest, Vol 36, Issue 17 In-Reply-To: <200605201900.k4KJ08Sv029780@sparrow.markspace.com> Message-ID: Hi, I also cannot sync using USB and my Treo 650 to my G5. It used to be that restarting could manage to get it to work, at least most of the time. Now I can only use bluetooth. I really don't think the cable or connection is implicated. Fern Nemenyi On 5/20/06 12:00 PM, "missing-sync-palmos-talk-request@lists.markspace.com" wrote: > Send missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list submissions to > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > missing-sync-palmos-talk-request@lists.markspace.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > missing-sync-palmos-talk-owner@lists.markspace.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of missing-sync-palmos-talk digest..." > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: USB sync (Robyn Phillips) > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your subscribed email > address to: > missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com -- Early we receive a call, yet it remains incomprehensible, and only late do we discover how obedient we were. Milosz From danielg at bu.edu Sun May 21 12:06:09 2006 From: danielg at bu.edu (Daniel Goldenholz) Date: Sun May 21 12:06:30 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Mounting my Palm? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4470BA21.5090003@bu.edu> Why do I need to use the USB for mounting my wireless enabled Palm on my computer? Dear MS folks, couldn't that be done via wifi and bluetooth as well? I mean hey - if I can do Folder Sync wirelessly, why not just mount the SD card wirelessly too? D From sgruby at markspace.com Sun May 21 12:18:02 2006 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Sun May 21 12:18:06 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Mounting my Palm? In-Reply-To: <4470BA21.5090003@bu.edu> References: <4470BA21.5090003@bu.edu> Message-ID: On May 21, 2006, at 12:06 PM, Daniel Goldenholz wrote: > Why do I need to use the USB for mounting my wireless enabled Palm > on my computer? > Dear MS folks, couldn't that be done via wifi and bluetooth as well? > I mean hey - if I can do Folder Sync wirelessly, why not just mount > the SD card wirelessly too? > It is on our wishlist for a feature version to be able to mount a card wirelessly. Folder sync is using the Palm OS calls and runs through the HotSync mechanism as such we get the ability to sync wirelessly with no additional effort. Desktop mounting is done through a kernel extension that has been written for USB only. Unfortunately I can't give you an exact time on when or if we'll implement this feature. -- Scott Gruby Mark/Space, Inc. Please visit for assistance with Mark/Space products. From martin_p at euronet.nl Sun May 21 12:22:24 2006 From: martin_p at euronet.nl (martin pyper) Date: Sun May 21 12:22:27 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: missing-sync-palmos-talk Digest, Vol 36, Issue 17 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: ditto here I have had this problem for months it's definitely a problem between MS and OSX in my opinion I too have switched to BT which is now, it seems suddenly more reliable and the only way to achieve a decent sync... very annoying, as we seem to be regressing in terms of features with every new 'update' > Hi, > I also cannot sync using USB and my Treo 650 to my G5. It used to be that > restarting could manage to get it to work, at least most of the time. Now I > can only use bluetooth. I really don't think the cable or connection is > implicated. > > Fern Nemenyi From ml1211 at mac.com Mon May 22 12:10:00 2006 From: ml1211 at mac.com (Michael Lee) Date: Mon May 22 12:10:10 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: missing-sync-palmos-talk Digest, Vol 36, Issue 17 Message-ID: Same issue with my Treo 650. USB synch does not work. Bluetooth synch is SLOW! I use a Seidio cradle and know the connection is good because my Treo charges fine with it. Restarting my powerbook used to help but no longer does. -- Michael Lee From mtropicl at optonline.net Mon May 22 13:08:35 2006 From: mtropicl at optonline.net (Fritz Lang) Date: Mon May 22 13:08:52 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] connect to internet Message-ID: Can MS5.1 be used to connect to my LAN via USB and the internet? Clie NX70, OSX.4 Thanks, -- I live for TV production. really! From Patricia at PatriciaWarwick.com Mon May 22 19:19:16 2006 From: Patricia at PatriciaWarwick.com (Patricia Warwick) Date: Mon May 22 19:19:20 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Alarms missing sounds? Message-ID: <3390188F-7C98-49A1-AC1B-E1619235C94C@PatriciaWarwick.com> Recently I noticed that many of my alarms have been changed to having a sound "none" ... instead of the usual sound that I specify. Has anyone else noticed that? So far I have not done extensive testing so I haven't determined the cause. From rohanmarr at mac.com Mon May 22 22:32:10 2006 From: rohanmarr at mac.com (Rohan Marr) Date: Mon May 22 22:32:14 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Alarms missing sounds? In-Reply-To: <3390188F-7C98-49A1-AC1B-E1619235C94C@PatriciaWarwick.com> References: <3390188F-7C98-49A1-AC1B-E1619235C94C@PatriciaWarwick.com> Message-ID: <7F24D814-561F-4D80-BE36-23B859D2326E@mac.com> On May 22, 2006, at 7:19 PM, Patricia Warwick wrote: > Recently I noticed that many of my alarms have been changed to > having a sound "none" ... instead of the usual sound that I > specify. Has anyone else noticed that? So far I have not done > extensive testing so I haven't determined the cause. I can confirm this behavior on a Treo 600. It seems to occur when the event is originally created on the Palm device and then synced to the Mac (the alarm time will sync to iCal but the sound will be set to 'none'). Event's I create in iCal retain their sound setting even after syncing and editing on the Treo 600. Regards, Rohan. From Patricia at PatriciaWarwick.com Tue May 23 05:29:48 2006 From: Patricia at PatriciaWarwick.com (Patricia Warwick) Date: Tue May 23 05:29:50 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Alarms missing sounds? In-Reply-To: <7F24D814-561F-4D80-BE36-23B859D2326E@mac.com> References: <3390188F-7C98-49A1-AC1B-E1619235C94C@PatriciaWarwick.com> <7F24D814-561F-4D80-BE36-23B859D2326E@mac.com> Message-ID: <1A4F08F0-B11E-4C1D-805C-59607734E1CC@PatriciaWarwick.com> That was my suspicion. I've not noticed it before so it seems to be new behaviour. Does anyone know of a way to get a sound assigned? On 23-May-06, at 1:32 AM, Rohan Marr wrote: > > On May 22, 2006, at 7:19 PM, Patricia Warwick wrote: > >> Recently I noticed that many of my alarms have been changed to >> having a sound "none" ... instead of the usual sound that I >> specify. Has anyone else noticed that? So far I have not done >> extensive testing so I haven't determined the cause. > > I can confirm this behavior on a Treo 600. It seems to occur when > the event is originally created on the Palm device and then synced > to the Mac (the alarm time will sync to iCal but the sound will be > set to 'none'). Event's I create in iCal retain their sound setting > even after syncing and editing on the Treo 600. > > Regards, > Rohan. > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your > subscribed email address to: > missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com From Patricia at PatriciaWarwick.com Tue May 23 06:07:34 2006 From: Patricia at PatriciaWarwick.com (Patricia Warwick) Date: Tue May 23 06:07:38 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Alarms missing sounds? In-Reply-To: <1A4F08F0-B11E-4C1D-805C-59607734E1CC@PatriciaWarwick.com> References: <3390188F-7C98-49A1-AC1B-E1619235C94C@PatriciaWarwick.com> <7F24D814-561F-4D80-BE36-23B859D2326E@mac.com> <1A4F08F0-B11E-4C1D-805C-59607734E1CC@PatriciaWarwick.com> Message-ID: <50912D12-41B5-45B7-85AD-914B193796BE@PatriciaWarwick.com> I've done some tests and so far creating events with alarms on the palm correctly creates events with alarms with sound on the Mac, so it is not a straightforward issue ... any other suggestions? On 23-May-06, at 8:29 AM, Patricia Warwick wrote: > That was my suspicion. I've not noticed it before so it seems to > be new behaviour. Does anyone know of a way to get a sound assigned? > > On 23-May-06, at 1:32 AM, Rohan Marr wrote: > >> >> On May 22, 2006, at 7:19 PM, Patricia Warwick wrote: >> >>> Recently I noticed that many of my alarms have been changed to >>> having a sound "none" ... instead of the usual sound that I >>> specify. Has anyone else noticed that? So far I have not done >>> extensive testing so I haven't determined the cause. >> >> I can confirm this behavior on a Treo 600. It seems to occur when >> the event is originally created on the Palm device and then synced >> to the Mac (the alarm time will sync to iCal but the sound will be >> set to 'none'). Event's I create in iCal retain their sound >> setting even after syncing and editing on the Treo 600. >> >> Regards, >> Rohan. >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >> To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your >> subscribed email address to: >> missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your > subscribed email address to: > missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com From bcriscuolo at markspace.com Tue May 23 06:25:01 2006 From: bcriscuolo at markspace.com (Brian M. Criscuolo) Date: Tue May 23 06:25:03 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Alarms missing sounds? In-Reply-To: <50912D12-41B5-45B7-85AD-914B193796BE@PatriciaWarwick.com> References: <3390188F-7C98-49A1-AC1B-E1619235C94C@PatriciaWarwick.com> <7F24D814-561F-4D80-BE36-23B859D2326E@mac.com> <1A4F08F0-B11E-4C1D-805C-59607734E1CC@PatriciaWarwick.com> <50912D12-41B5-45B7-85AD-914B193796BE@PatriciaWarwick.com> Message-ID: Patricia, I can't think of why the events are losing the sounds - we made a change to explicitly set the alarm as "message with sound" at one point during development, and we don't change it back. The only time that it *could* happen (but I don't know what would trigger it) is if an event has more than one alarm, and for whatever reason one with sound is lost. Not likely, from looking at the code. b On May 23, 2006, at 9:07 AM, Patricia Warwick wrote: > I've done some tests and so far creating events with alarms on the > palm correctly creates events with alarms with sound on the Mac, so > it is not a straightforward issue ... any other suggestions? > > On 23-May-06, at 8:29 AM, Patricia Warwick wrote: > >> That was my suspicion. I've not noticed it before so it seems to >> be new behaviour. Does anyone know of a way to get a sound assigned? >> >> On 23-May-06, at 1:32 AM, Rohan Marr wrote: >> >>> >>> On May 22, 2006, at 7:19 PM, Patricia Warwick wrote: >>> >>>> Recently I noticed that many of my alarms have been changed to >>>> having a sound "none" ... instead of the usual sound that I >>>> specify. Has anyone else noticed that? So far I have not done >>>> extensive testing so I haven't determined the cause. >>> >>> I can confirm this behavior on a Treo 600. It seems to occur when >>> the event is originally created on the Palm device and then >>> synced to the Mac (the alarm time will sync to iCal but the sound >>> will be set to 'none'). Event's I create in iCal retain their >>> sound setting even after syncing and editing on the Treo 600. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Rohan. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >>> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >>> To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your >>> subscribed email address to: >>> missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >> To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your >> subscribed email address to: >> missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your > subscribed email address to: > missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com ******************** Brian M. Criscuolo Senior Software Engineer Mark/Space, Inc. bcriscuolo@markspace.com From Patricia at PatriciaWarwick.com Tue May 23 11:01:58 2006 From: Patricia at PatriciaWarwick.com (Patricia Warwick) Date: Tue May 23 11:02:01 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Alarms missing sounds? In-Reply-To: References: <3390188F-7C98-49A1-AC1B-E1619235C94C@PatriciaWarwick.com> <7F24D814-561F-4D80-BE36-23B859D2326E@mac.com> <1A4F08F0-B11E-4C1D-805C-59607734E1CC@PatriciaWarwick.com> <50912D12-41B5-45B7-85AD-914B193796BE@PatriciaWarwick.com> Message-ID: <1C029308-FFA5-4180-BB7A-96FCECC9FF5B@PatriciaWarwick.com> I note that you say that you set it to "message with sound" but that is possible yet the sound is undefined (none) - which is what happened in my case. Do you know what controls that? On 23-May-06, at 9:25 AM, Brian M. Criscuolo wrote: > Patricia, > > I can't think of why the events are losing the sounds - we made a > change to explicitly set the alarm as "message with sound" at one > point during development, and we don't change it back. > > The only time that it *could* happen (but I don't know what would > trigger it) is if an event has more than one alarm, and for > whatever reason one with sound is lost. Not likely, from looking at > the code. > > b > > On May 23, 2006, at 9:07 AM, Patricia Warwick wrote: > >> I've done some tests and so far creating events with alarms on the >> palm correctly creates events with alarms with sound on the Mac, >> so it is not a straightforward issue ... any other suggestions? >> >> On 23-May-06, at 8:29 AM, Patricia Warwick wrote: >> >>> That was my suspicion. I've not noticed it before so it seems to >>> be new behaviour. Does anyone know of a way to get a sound assigned? >>> >>> On 23-May-06, at 1:32 AM, Rohan Marr wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> On May 22, 2006, at 7:19 PM, Patricia Warwick wrote: >>>> >>>>> Recently I noticed that many of my alarms have been changed to >>>>> having a sound "none" ... instead of the usual sound that I >>>>> specify. Has anyone else noticed that? So far I have not done >>>>> extensive testing so I haven't determined the cause. >>>> >>>> I can confirm this behavior on a Treo 600. It seems to occur >>>> when the event is originally created on the Palm device and then >>>> synced to the Mac (the alarm time will sync to iCal but the >>>> sound will be set to 'none'). Event's I create in iCal retain >>>> their sound setting even after syncing and editing on the Treo 600. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Rohan. >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >>>> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >>>> To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your >>>> subscribed email address to: >>>> missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >>> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >>> To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your >>> subscribed email address to: >>> missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >> To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your >> subscribed email address to: >> missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com > > > ******************** > Brian M. Criscuolo > Senior Software Engineer > Mark/Space, Inc. > bcriscuolo@markspace.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your > subscribed email address to: > missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com From bcriscuolo at markspace.com Tue May 23 11:04:38 2006 From: bcriscuolo at markspace.com (Brian M. Criscuolo) Date: Tue May 23 11:04:41 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Alarms missing sounds? In-Reply-To: <1C029308-FFA5-4180-BB7A-96FCECC9FF5B@PatriciaWarwick.com> References: <3390188F-7C98-49A1-AC1B-E1619235C94C@PatriciaWarwick.com> <7F24D814-561F-4D80-BE36-23B859D2326E@mac.com> <1A4F08F0-B11E-4C1D-805C-59607734E1CC@PatriciaWarwick.com> <50912D12-41B5-45B7-85AD-914B193796BE@PatriciaWarwick.com> <1C029308-FFA5-4180-BB7A-96FCECC9FF5B@PatriciaWarwick.com> Message-ID: <29CEFF26-EE39-4A1A-8115-DE2D68765AAF@markspace.com> That *could* be an error in iCal, when it matches the sync record up with a sound. We don't have a way to set what sound it is at sync time - that information isn't exposed to us (nor iCal). It is simply an audio alarm. b On May 23, 2006, at 2:01 PM, Patricia Warwick wrote: > I note that you say that you set it to "message with sound" but > that is possible yet the sound is undefined (none) - which is what > happened in my case. Do you know what controls that? > > On 23-May-06, at 9:25 AM, Brian M. Criscuolo wrote: > >> Patricia, >> >> I can't think of why the events are losing the sounds - we made a >> change to explicitly set the alarm as "message with sound" at one >> point during development, and we don't change it back. >> >> The only time that it *could* happen (but I don't know what would >> trigger it) is if an event has more than one alarm, and for >> whatever reason one with sound is lost. Not likely, from looking >> at the code. >> >> b >> >> On May 23, 2006, at 9:07 AM, Patricia Warwick wrote: >> >>> I've done some tests and so far creating events with alarms on >>> the palm correctly creates events with alarms with sound on the >>> Mac, so it is not a straightforward issue ... any other suggestions? >>> >>> On 23-May-06, at 8:29 AM, Patricia Warwick wrote: >>> >>>> That was my suspicion. I've not noticed it before so it seems >>>> to be new behaviour. Does anyone know of a way to get a sound >>>> assigned? >>>> >>>> On 23-May-06, at 1:32 AM, Rohan Marr wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> On May 22, 2006, at 7:19 PM, Patricia Warwick wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Recently I noticed that many of my alarms have been changed to >>>>>> having a sound "none" ... instead of the usual sound that I >>>>>> specify. Has anyone else noticed that? So far I have not done >>>>>> extensive testing so I haven't determined the cause. >>>>> >>>>> I can confirm this behavior on a Treo 600. It seems to occur >>>>> when the event is originally created on the Palm device and >>>>> then synced to the Mac (the alarm time will sync to iCal but >>>>> the sound will be set to 'none'). Event's I create in iCal >>>>> retain their sound setting even after syncing and editing on >>>>> the Treo 600. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Rohan. >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >>>>> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >>>>> To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your >>>>> subscribed email address to: >>>>> missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >>>> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >>>> To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your >>>> subscribed email address to: >>>> missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >>> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >>> To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your >>> subscribed email address to: >>> missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com >> >> >> ******************** >> Brian M. Criscuolo >> Senior Software Engineer >> Mark/Space, Inc. >> bcriscuolo@markspace.com >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >> To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your >> subscribed email address to: >> missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your > subscribed email address to: > missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com ******************** Brian M. Criscuolo Senior Software Engineer Mark/Space, Inc. bcriscuolo@markspace.com From isaac at cs.rmit.edu.au Tue May 23 14:39:44 2006 From: isaac at cs.rmit.edu.au (I. Balbin) Date: Tue May 23 14:40:33 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: USB Doesn't work In-Reply-To: <200605231901.k4NJ0AYD009670@sparrow.markspace.com> References: <200605231901.k4NJ0AYD009670@sparrow.markspace.com> Message-ID: I have no problems whatsoever using USB with my Treo 650 under OSX 10.4.6 on a dual G5 Indeed, I even managed to update the firmware on my Treo (recommended) by using missing sync to mount my SD card and copy the firmware update to my SD card etc I then simply ran missing sync and all my information which had been backed up, was re-loaded. Painless, quick and successful. From jpchan at gmail.com Tue May 23 13:54:23 2006 From: jpchan at gmail.com (J.P. Chan) Date: Tue May 23 14:46:06 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: missing-sync-palmos-talk Digest, Vol 36, Issue 19 In-Reply-To: <200605221901.k4MJ0Bmi031371@sparrow.markspace.com> References: <200605221901.k4MJ0Bmi031371@sparrow.markspace.com> Message-ID: I'm having the same problem syncing my Treo 600 with my PowerBook 12", OS 10.4.6, and MS 5.1 -- the syncs have stopped altogether after being flaky for several months. It's not the cable nor the computer and unfortunately there's no Bluetooth workaround for the Treo 600. Any suggestions? JP > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 21:22:24 +0200 > From: martin pyper > Subject: Re: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: missing-sync-palmos-talk > Digest, Vol 36, Issue 17 > To: "The Missing Sync (Mac/Palm OS) Discussion List" > > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > ditto here I have had this problem for months > it's definitely a problem between MS and OSX in > my opinion > > I too have switched to BT which is now, it seems > suddenly more reliable and the only way to > achieve a decent sync... very annoying, as we > seem to be regressing in terms of features with > every new 'update' > >> Hi, >> I also cannot sync using USB and my Treo 650 to my G5. It used to >> be that >> restarting could manage to get it to work, at least most of the >> time. Now I >> can only use bluetooth. I really don't think the cable or >> connection is >> implicated. >> >> Fern Nemenyi > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your > subscribed email address to: > missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com > > End of missing-sync-palmos-talk Digest, Vol 36, Issue 19 > ******************************************************** From paul+markspace at bur.st Tue May 23 16:48:24 2006 From: paul+markspace at bur.st (Paul Day) Date: Tue May 23 16:48:29 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Mounting my Palm? In-Reply-To: <4470BA21.5090003@bu.edu> References: <4470BA21.5090003@bu.edu> Message-ID: On Sun, 21 May 2006, Daniel Goldenholz wrote: > Why do I need to use the USB for mounting my wireless enabled Palm on my > computer? > Dear MS folks, couldn't that be done via wifi and bluetooth as well? > I mean hey - if I can do Folder Sync wirelessly, why not just mount the SD > card wirelessly too? Because the majority of the smarts are already built-in for USB. They'd have to do a sizable chunk of coding to try and get it working over BT or WiFi. PD -- Paul Day From dmkmd at mmode.com Wed May 24 12:24:23 2006 From: dmkmd at mmode.com (DanKruss) Date: Wed May 24 12:25:41 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: missing-sync-palmos-talk Digest, Vol 36, Issue 21 In-Reply-To: <200605241900.k4OJ0Dta024438@sparrow.markspace.com> References: <200605241900.k4OJ0Dta024438@sparrow.markspace.com> Message-ID: <847-SnapperMsgF6241BA2C09A63B4@[10.0.209.36]> I solved this problem by QUITTING iTunes which prevented usb sync if it was running ___ Dan Kruss dkruss@kruss.net ...... Original Message ....... On Wed, 24 May 2006 12:00:25 -0700 missing-sync-palmos-talk-request@lists.markspace.com wrote: >Send missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list submissions to > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > missing-sync-palmos-talk-request@lists.markspace.com > >You can reach the person managing the list at > missing-sync-palmos-talk-owner@lists.markspace.com > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of missing-sync-palmos-talk digest..." > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: USB Doesn't work (I. Balbin) > 2. Re: missing-sync-palmos-talk Digest, Vol 36, Issue 19 (J.P. Chan) > 3. Re: Mounting my Palm? (Paul Day) > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Message: 1 >Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 07:39:44 +1000 >From: "I. Balbin" >Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: USB Doesn't work >To: missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >Message-ID: >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > >I have no problems whatsoever using USB with my Treo 650 >under OSX 10.4.6 on a dual G5 >Indeed, I even managed to update the firmware on my Treo >(recommended) by using missing sync to mount my SD card >and copy the firmware update to my SD card etc >I then simply ran missing sync and all my information >which had been backed up, was re-loaded. Painless, >quick and successful. > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 2 >Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 16:54:23 -0400 >From: "J.P. Chan" >Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: missing-sync-palmos-talk > Digest, Vol 36, Issue 19 >To: missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >Message-ID: >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed > >I'm having the same problem syncing my Treo 600 with my PowerBook >12", OS 10.4.6, and MS 5.1 -- the syncs have stopped altogether after >being flaky for several months. It's not the cable nor the computer >and unfortunately there's no Blueto