From sgruby at markspace.com Thu Jun 1 06:58:17 2006 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Thu Jun 1 06:58:21 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Address book sync issue resolution posted yet? In-Reply-To: <4FC7B08B-9DC9-4A6C-A928-6758F75FE8B2@yahoo.com> References: <4FC7B08B-9DC9-4A6C-A928-6758F75FE8B2@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <92AC1FB8-3342-4E6A-899B-88BD9E628981@markspace.com> On May 31, 2006, at 11:01 PM, Eric Timberlake wrote: > Hi, > > I spent about two months going back and forth with tech support > about my Tungsten T2 and address book data being scrambled by > missing sync version 5.1. > > [Mark/Space Support ticket #607151] > > The issue was birthday and URL data being erased and other minor > erata like addresses being flipped from "home" to "work".. > > I was finally told that Markspace was able to duplicate the issue. > I declined retrieving my money because I couldn't believe such a > huge bug would take long to fix. > > It's now a month since this admission of a bug.. (The bug was first > reported on 2/13/06, so over three months now...) > > Any fix yet? > We are working as hard as possible on this product and other products. I can't give you an estimate on when a fix will be available (and even if a fix for your particular issue will be included), but we are working on issues with the product. We can't release versions with just one fix in them as there are many components involved in a release, so we have a number of fixes planned and every fix takes time. We hope that you can bear with us and we will have a new release when several issues have been addressed and it has been adequately tested. Thanks for your understanding. -- Scott Gruby Mark/Space, Inc. Please visit for assistance with Mark/Space products. From ericpallen at gmail.com Thu Jun 1 08:16:12 2006 From: ericpallen at gmail.com (Eric Allen) Date: Thu Jun 1 08:16:13 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] access to memo data Message-ID: <2b9d91920606010816g6731a7b5le2be7bbe85bf4f6f@mail.gmail.com> I'm interested in writing an app that pulls data from the memo pad on every sync and does something with it. Is there a specific format for the memopad data stored by MarkSpace MemoPad? How about hooks so my applescript or obj-c app can be notified when the sync completes? From sgruby at markspace.com Thu Jun 1 08:26:32 2006 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Thu Jun 1 08:26:34 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] access to memo data In-Reply-To: <2b9d91920606010816g6731a7b5le2be7bbe85bf4f6f@mail.gmail.com> References: <2b9d91920606010816g6731a7b5le2be7bbe85bf4f6f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <005B94E4-A36F-4548-B327-0AB44031D0A5@markspace.com> On Jun 1, 2006, at 8:16 AM, Eric Allen wrote: > I'm interested in writing an app that pulls data from the memo pad > on every > sync and does something with it. Is there a specific format for the > memopad > data stored by MarkSpace MemoPad? The format for the data stored in Mark/Space MemoPad is not documented. However, you can write a conduit and application and bypass the Mark/Space MemoPad conduit and application. > How about hooks so my applescript or obj-c > app can be notified when the sync completes? There are Objective-C hooks to be notified. #define kSyncNotification @"com.markspace.missingsync.syncmanager.notification" #define kSyncStartNotification [NSString stringWithFormat:@"com.markspace.missingsync.syncmanager.syncstart-% @", NSUserName()] NSDistributedNotificationCenter* center = [NSDistributedNotificationCenter defaultCenter]; [center addObserver:self selector:@selector(syncStartNotification:) name:kSyncNotification object:kSyncStartNotification]; [center addObserver:self selector:@selector(syncStopNotification:) name:kSyncNotification object:kSyncStopNotification]; - (void) syncStartNotification:(NSNotification *) inNotification { NSDictionary *userInfo = [inNotification userInfo]; [self handleScripts:YES conduitName:[userInfo objectForKey:kSyncConduitName]]; } (I'd recommend using the Conduit Developer's mailing list: if you have further questions about development as your questions may be relevant to other developers.) -- Scott Gruby Mark/Space, Inc. Please visit for assistance with Mark/Space products. From jamescummings at gmail.com Thu Jun 1 18:02:16 2006 From: jamescummings at gmail.com (James Cummings) Date: Thu Jun 1 18:02:17 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Google Calendar Message-ID: Are there any plans to add syncing with Google Calendar to missing sync? Or has anyone figured out how to do this yet? From atmasphere at atmasphere.net Thu Jun 1 19:39:26 2006 From: atmasphere at atmasphere.net (Jonathan Greene) Date: Thu Jun 1 19:39:32 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Google Calendar In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <696CB88E-88DD-41FF-ACC4-CBB4E7A5E3D4@atmasphere.net> Seen this? http://www.gcalsync.com/ On Jun 1, 2006, at 9:02 PM, James Cummings wrote: > Are there any plans to add syncing with Google Calendar to missing > sync? Or has anyone figured out how to do this yet? > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your > subscribed email address to: > missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com From nanajana at mac.com Sat Jun 3 20:19:49 2006 From: nanajana at mac.com (Jan C.) Date: Sat Jun 3 20:19:54 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Warning: Syncing will change more than 5% of your calendars Message-ID: I'm trying to get the hang of Sync Services and Missing Sync (5.1). When syncing Tasks between a Palm T3 and iCal, I often get the alert, "Syncing with Missing Sync Tasks will change more than 5% of your calendars on this computer." I only have one calendar so - duh - of course it will change more than 5% of my calendars. What is the purpose of this? Should I always ignore it? Is there a way to Search by keywords the archives of this list? I can't find it. Jan From tonyburch at gmail.com Sun Jun 4 00:44:49 2006 From: tonyburch at gmail.com (Tony Burch) Date: Sun Jun 4 00:44:51 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Warning: Syncing will change more than 5% of your calendars In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: If you want to change this, open iSync and go to Prefs. I find it useful to keep at a higher threshold than 5%, so I get warning of impending large changes. On 04/06/06, Jan C. wrote: > I'm trying to get the hang of Sync Services and Missing Sync (5.1). When > syncing Tasks between a Palm T3 and iCal, I often get the alert, "Syncing > with Missing Sync Tasks will change more than 5% of your calendars on this > computer." I only have one calendar so - duh - of course it will change > more than 5% of my calendars. What is the purpose of this? Should I always > ignore it? > > Is there a way to Search by keywords the archives of this list? I can't > find it. > > Jan > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your subscribed email address to: > missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com > From eyepatch at san.rr.com Sun Jun 4 09:40:59 2006 From: eyepatch at san.rr.com (Spencer Stein) Date: Sun Jun 4 09:41:02 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Warning: Syncing will change more than 5% of your calendars In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3C3BD60A-B01A-4E76-BDD7-93F123645421@san.rr.com> On Jun 4, 2006, at 12:44 AM, Tony Burch wrote: > If you want to change this, open iSync and go to Prefs. I find it > useful to keep at a higher threshold than 5%, so I get warning of > impending large changes. > > On 04/06/06, Jan C. wrote: >> I'm trying to get the hang of Sync Services and Missing Sync >> (5.1). When >> syncing Tasks between a Palm T3 and iCal, I often get the alert, >> "Syncing >> with Missing Sync Tasks will change more than 5% of your calendars >> on this >> computer." I only have one calendar so - duh - of course it will >> change >> more than 5% of my calendars. What is the purpose of this? >> Should I always >> ignore it? >> >> Is there a way to Search by keywords the archives of this list? I >> can't >> find it. >> >> Jan >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >> To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your >> subscribed email address to: >> missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com >> > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your > subscribed email address to: > missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com Spencer Stein eyepatch@san.rr.com From nanajana at mac.com Sun Jun 4 20:56:04 2006 From: nanajana at mac.com (Jan C.) Date: Sun Jun 4 20:56:08 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] The sync is definitely missing (Calendar) Message-ID: I am trying to sync a Palm T3 with iCal. (OSX 10.4.6, MS 5.1.0) For a few days it worked. Now, no syncing. I'm also trying to use Sync Services between an iMac and PowerBook. Can SS be interfering? The calendar is not syncing between the PB and iMac either. Contacts DO sync. I've seen the solution here before to do a desktop overwrites handheld. But if my computers aren't syncing either - where is the problem and what should I do? This is all new to me and I'm afraid of losing 8 years of calendar, though it is backed up. Jan From macnrg at mac.com Mon Jun 5 06:07:45 2006 From: macnrg at mac.com (Rob B. Campbell) Date: Mon Jun 5 06:07:46 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Addresses no longer syncing into Treo Message-ID: <9E91D281-140E-4168-85D6-A1C939FD3F13@mac.com> All of a sudden, I no longer can sync contacts from Address Book into my Treo w/o an Overwrite command ... I think this happened ever since I installed Plaxo in Address Book ... what gives (I also sync with .Mac) ---- Rob B. Campbell Technical Director, ACTC MacNRG http://www.macnrg.net email/iChat: macnrg@mac.com From bcriscuolo at markspace.com Mon Jun 5 06:12:20 2006 From: bcriscuolo at markspace.com (Brian M. Criscuolo) Date: Mon Jun 5 06:12:22 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Addresses no longer syncing into Treo In-Reply-To: <9E91D281-140E-4168-85D6-A1C939FD3F13@mac.com> References: <9E91D281-140E-4168-85D6-A1C939FD3F13@mac.com> Message-ID: <4D1B0416-BFF9-48DA-AE2B-979A2E1B96C2@markspace.com> Rob, Are you getting any sort of errors? Plaxo, if I remember, works as an Address Book plugin - meaning it *shouldn't* cause a direct issue with our synchronization of contacts. But something else may be happening. If you have a snippet from our log we might know better. b On Jun 5, 2006, at 9:07 AM, Rob B. Campbell wrote: > All of a sudden, I no longer can sync contacts from Address Book > into my Treo w/o an Overwrite command ... I think this happened > ever since I installed Plaxo in Address Book ... what gives (I also > sync with .Mac) > ---- > Rob B. Campbell > Technical Director, ACTC > MacNRG > http://www.macnrg.net > email/iChat: macnrg@mac.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your > subscribed email address to: > missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com ******************** Brian M. Criscuolo Senior Software Engineer Mark/Space, Inc. bcriscuolo@markspace.com From bgarst at mindspring.com Mon Jun 5 11:33:22 2006 From: bgarst at mindspring.com (Robert Garst) Date: Mon Jun 5 11:33:23 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] The sync is definitely missing (Calendar) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hello: I have a client who is having a similar problem. After upgrading to MS 5.1.0, iCal is no longer syncing. Address Book sync's fine. Missing Sync: 5.1.0 17" Powerbook G4 OS: 10.4.6 Treo 650 Palm OS: 5.4.8 There is no error on the sync log on the Treo. However, on her Powerbook, I do get the following message in the sync log. NSInvalidArgumentException [ISyncConcreteSession clientAcceptedChangesForRecordWithIdentifier:formattedRecord:newRecordIdenti fier:]: I don't know anything about a record with identifier com.apple.syncservices:7A98B0AB-A531-11DA-9CBB-000A95BD12BE. Are you sure you got it from this session or from the session's snapshot? If so, perhaps it has been deleted? Thanks in advance for any help. Regards, Bob G. On 6/4/06 11:56 PM, "Jan C." wrote: > I am trying to sync a Palm T3 with iCal. (OSX 10.4.6, MS 5.1.0) For a few > days it worked. Now, no syncing. I'm also trying to use Sync Services > between an iMac and PowerBook. Can SS be interfering? The calendar is not > syncing between the PB and iMac either. Contacts DO sync. I've seen the > solution here before to do a desktop overwrites handheld. But if my > computers aren't syncing either - where is the problem and what should I do? > This is all new to me and I'm afraid of losing 8 years of calendar, though > it is backed up. > > Jan > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your subscribed email > address to: > missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com From robjacobson at adelphia.net Mon Jun 5 12:01:11 2006 From: robjacobson at adelphia.net (robert jacobson) Date: Mon Jun 5 12:01:37 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: missing-sync-palmos-talk Digest, Vol 37, Issue 3 In-Reply-To: <200606041900.k54J0BIG010428@sparrow.markspace.com> Message-ID: > Send missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list submissions to > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > missing-sync-palmos-talk-request@lists.markspace.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > missing-sync-palmos-talk-owner@lists.markspace.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of missing-sync-palmos-talk digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Warning: Syncing will change more than 5% of your calendars > (Jan C.) > 2. Re: Warning: Syncing will change more than 5% of your > calendars (Tony Burch) > 3. Re: Warning: Syncing will change more than 5% of your > calendars (Spencer Stein) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 20:19:49 -0700 > From: "Jan C." > Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Warning: Syncing will change more > than 5% of your calendars > To: Missing Sync Talk > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > I'm trying to get the hang of Sync Services and Missing Sync (5.1). When > syncing Tasks between a Palm T3 and iCal, I often get the alert, "Syncing > with Missing Sync Tasks will change more than 5% of your calendars on this > computer." I only have one calendar so - duh - of course it will change > more than 5% of my calendars. What is the purpose of this? Should I always > ignore it? > > Is there a way to Search by keywords the archives of this list? I can't > find it. > > Jan > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 08:44:49 +0100 > From: "Tony Burch" > Subject: Re: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Warning: Syncing will change > more than 5% of your calendars > To: "The Missing Sync (Mac/Palm OS) Discussion List" > > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > If you want to change this, open iSync and go to Prefs. I find it > useful to keep at a higher threshold than 5%, so I get warning of > impending large changes. > > On 04/06/06, Jan C. wrote: >> I'm trying to get the hang of Sync Services and Missing Sync (5.1). When >> syncing Tasks between a Palm T3 and iCal, I often get the alert, "Syncing >> with Missing Sync Tasks will change more than 5% of your calendars on this >> computer." I only have one calendar so - duh - of course it will change >> more than 5% of my calendars. What is the purpose of this? Should I always >> ignore it? >> >> Is there a way to Search by keywords the archives of this list? I can't >> find it. >> >> Jan >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >> To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your subscribed >> email address to: >> missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 09:40:59 -0700 > From: Spencer Stein > Subject: Re: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Warning: Syncing will change > more than 5% of your calendars > To: "The Missing Sync (Mac/Palm OS) Discussion List" > > Message-ID: <3C3BD60A-B01A-4E76-BDD7-93F123645421@san.rr.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed > > > On Jun 4, 2006, at 12:44 AM, Tony Burch wrote: > >> If you want to change this, open iSync and go to Prefs. I find it >> useful to keep at a higher threshold than 5%, so I get warning of >> impending large changes. >> >> On 04/06/06, Jan C. wrote: >>> I'm trying to get the hang of Sync Services and Missing Sync >>> (5.1). When >>> syncing Tasks between a Palm T3 and iCal, I often get the alert, >>> "Syncing >>> with Missing Sync Tasks will change more than 5% of your calendars >>> on this >>> computer." I only have one calendar so - duh - of course it will >>> change >>> more than 5% of my calendars. What is the purpose of this? >>> Should I always >>> ignore it? >>> >>> Is there a way to Search by keywords the archives of this list? I >>> can't >>> find it. >>> >>> Jan >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >>> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >>> To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your >>> subscribed email address to: >>> missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >> To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your >> subscribed email address to: >> missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com > > Spencer Stein > eyepatch@san.rr.com > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your subscribed email > address to: > missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com > > End of missing-sync-palmos-talk Digest, Vol 37, Issue 3 > ******************************************************* From nanajana at mac.com Mon Jun 5 13:32:03 2006 From: nanajana at mac.com (Jan C.) Date: Mon Jun 5 13:32:07 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Warning: Syncing will change more than 5% of your calendars In-Reply-To: <3C3BD60A-B01A-4E76-BDD7-93F123645421@san.rr.com> Message-ID: Hello, Spencer. Was there meant to be a response in here from you? I don't see it. What's the "eyepatch" for? My boyfriend has just one eye so it caught my attention. Jan Chesne on 6/4/06 9:40 AM, Spencer Stein at eyepatch@san.rr.com wrote: > > On Jun 4, 2006, at 12:44 AM, Tony Burch wrote: > >> If you want to change this, open iSync and go to Prefs. I find it >> useful to keep at a higher threshold than 5%, so I get warning of >> impending large changes. >> >> On 04/06/06, Jan C. wrote: >>> I'm trying to get the hang of Sync Services and Missing Sync >>> (5.1). When >>> syncing Tasks between a Palm T3 and iCal, I often get the alert, >>> "Syncing >>> with Missing Sync Tasks will change more than 5% of your calendars >>> on this >>> computer." I only have one calendar so - duh - of course it will >>> change >>> more than 5% of my calendars. What is the purpose of this? >>> Should I always >>> ignore it? >>> >>> Is there a way to Search by keywords the archives of this list? I >>> can't >>> find it. >>> >>> Jan >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >>> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >>> To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your >>> subscribed email address to: >>> missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >> To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your >> subscribed email address to: >> missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com > > Spencer Stein > eyepatch@san.rr.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your subscribed email > address to: > missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com From nanajana at mac.com Mon Jun 5 13:33:36 2006 From: nanajana at mac.com (Jan C.) Date: Mon Jun 5 13:33:40 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Warning: Syncing will change more than 5% of your calendars In-Reply-To: Message-ID: on 6/4/06 12:44 AM, Tony Burch at tonyburch@gmail.com wrote: > If you want to change this, open iSync and go to Prefs. I find it > useful to keep at a higher threshold than 5%, so I get warning of > impending large changes. The wording sounds like it will change more than 5% of my calendars rather than 5% of the data inside. Anyway, when I have gone ahead, it does not seem to have changed more than 5% of the data/events. So I don't really understand what it means. Does it mean something other than that it will change more than 5% of the events? Does it lie? From bcriscuolo at markspace.com Mon Jun 5 13:36:16 2006 From: bcriscuolo at markspace.com (Brian M. Criscuolo) Date: Mon Jun 5 13:36:19 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Warning: Syncing will change more than 5% of your calendars In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Its telling the truth - that in some way, > 5% of the data will be changed. It could be in a subtle way that you wouldn't notice (like how we set recurrences as compared to how iCal does it). b On Jun 5, 2006, at 4:33 PM, Jan C. wrote: > on 6/4/06 12:44 AM, Tony Burch at tonyburch@gmail.com wrote: > >> If you want to change this, open iSync and go to Prefs. I find it >> useful to keep at a higher threshold than 5%, so I get warning of >> impending large changes. > > The wording sounds like it will change more than 5% of my calendars > rather > than 5% of the data inside. Anyway, when I have gone ahead, it > does not > seem to have changed more than 5% of the data/events. So I don't > really > understand what it means. Does it mean something other than that > it will > change more than 5% of the events? Does it lie? > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your > subscribed email address to: > missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com ******************** Brian M. Criscuolo Senior Software Engineer Mark/Space, Inc. bcriscuolo@markspace.com From nanajana at mac.com Mon Jun 5 19:55:22 2006 From: nanajana at mac.com (Jan C.) Date: Mon Jun 5 19:56:05 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: missing-sync-palmos-talk Digest, Vol 37, Issue 3 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: on 6/5/06 12:01 PM, robert jacobson at robjacobson@adelphia.net wrote: >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of missing-sync-palmos-talk digest..." Why must all messages start with "[missing-sync-palmos-talk]"? It is very annoying not to be able to see the subject in the list. I gather that your messages start with "Re: Contents of missing-sync-palmos-talk digest..." That's even worse. From Patricia at PatriciaWarwick.com Tue Jun 6 06:22:06 2006 From: Patricia at PatriciaWarwick.com (Patricia Warwick) Date: Tue Jun 6 06:22:13 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: missing-sync-palmos-talk Digest, Vol 37, Issue 3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Personally I count on this format of the subject line for a rule which move all messages for this list to a folder. Otherwise they might be classified as junk. On 5-Jun-06, at 10:55 PM, Jan C. wrote: > Why must all messages start with "[missing-sync-palmos-talk]"? It > is very > annoying not to be able to see the subject in the list. From jlundell at pobox.com Tue Jun 6 07:19:48 2006 From: jlundell at pobox.com (Jonathan Lundell) Date: Tue Jun 6 07:26:00 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: missing-sync-palmos-talk Digest, Vol 37, Issue 3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 9:22 AM -0400 6/6/06, Patricia Warwick wrote: >Personally I count on this format of the subject line for a rule >which move all messages for this list to a folder. Otherwise they >might be classified as junk. >On 5-Jun-06, at 10:55 PM, Jan C. wrote: I filter based on the To line (which also works for outgoing messages). But the point isn't whether there should be an identifying subject tag, it's whether it needs to be so long. >>Why must all messages start with "[missing-sync-palmos-talk]"? It is very >>annoying not to be able to see the subject in the list. -- /Jonathan Lundell. From berkowit at silcom.com Tue Jun 6 09:21:19 2006 From: berkowit at silcom.com (Paul Berkowitz) Date: Tue Jun 6 09:21:20 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: missing-sync-palmos-talk Digest, Vol 37, Issue 3 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 6/6/06 7:19 AM, "Jonathan Lundell" wrote: > At 9:22 AM -0400 6/6/06, Patricia Warwick wrote: >> Personally I count on this format of the subject line for a rule >> which move all messages for this list to a folder. Otherwise they >> might be classified as junk. >> On 5-Jun-06, at 10:55 PM, Jan C. wrote: > > I filter based on the To line (which also works for outgoing > messages). But the point isn't whether there should be an identifying > subject tag, it's whether it needs to be so long. > >>> Why must all messages start with "[missing-sync-palmos-talk]"? It is very >>> annoying not to be able to see the subject in the list. Right. "[msp]" would do just as well for identification purposes. What people on some email clients - where message lists can stretch out to the full width of the window/screen and messages are either opened into their own window or are viewed below - is that on other email clients such as Entourage 2004 the preferred "3-column" display has the message on the right, with message lists in a rather narrow column in the middle. (The list column has two lines for displaying minimal headers - the sender's name above and the message subject below.) Even on my 23" display, I keep that middle column at just about 3" wide. Typically an msp subject gets truncated like this: Re: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: missing... Useless. On my 15" PowerBook it's more like this: Re: [missing-sync-palmos-talk]... Every single message subject looks like that. You cannot tell one apart from the other. It's got to be even worse on a 12" iBook or 13" MacBook. (Probably bad enough to force me not to use this preferred "3-column" display at all, as I recall from when I had an iBook. But for a 15" screen, the "3-column" display works just fine for all messages except ones from mailing lists like mspt - which is the worst of all. Just something to keep in mind... -- Paul Berkowitz From ucgajpd at ucl.ac.uk Tue Jun 6 17:53:20 2006 From: ucgajpd at ucl.ac.uk (Jason Davies) Date: Tue Jun 6 17:53:29 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: missing-sync-palmos-talk Digest, Vol 37, Issue 3 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >Re: [missing-sync-palmos-talk]... > >Every single message subject looks like that. You cannot tell one apart >from the other. It's got to be even worse on a 12" iBook or 13" >MacBook. (Probably bad enough to force me not to use this preferred >"3-column" display at all, as I recall from when I had an iBook. But >for a 15" screen, the "3-column" display works just fine for all >messages except ones from mailing lists like mspt - which is the worst >of all. this annoys me too. But I don't think it's possible to change the name of a list in existence, is it? so is it worth having to resubscribe? If it can be changed, I'll be very happy on my 12" PB... From nanajana at mac.com Wed Jun 7 14:52:27 2006 From: nanajana at mac.com (Jan C.) Date: Wed Jun 7 14:53:56 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: missing-sync-palmos-talk Digest, Vol 37, Issue 3 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: on 6/6/06 5:53 PM, Jason Davies at ucgajpd@ucl.ac.uk wrote: > this annoys me too. But I don't think it's possible to change the name of a > list in existence, is it? so is it worth having to resubscribe? > > If it can be changed, I'll be very happy on my 12" PB... Other lists don't begin the Subject with the name of the list. I can't imagine why this one does. From Patricia at PatriciaWarwick.com Wed Jun 7 16:30:56 2006 From: Patricia at PatriciaWarwick.com (Patricia Warwick) Date: Wed Jun 7 16:30:45 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: missing-sync-palmos-talk Digest, Vol 37, Issue 3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9916824D-17F5-4EAE-92FD-8CDF199449B7@PatriciaWarwick.com> I beg to differ ... this is a common practice of many lists (certainly many of the ones I subscribe to.) On 7-Jun-06, at 5:52 PM, Jan C. wrote: > on 6/6/06 5:53 PM, Jason Davies at ucgajpd@ucl.ac.uk wrote: > >> this annoys me too. But I don't think it's possible to change the >> name of a >> list in existence, is it? so is it worth having to resubscribe? >> >> If it can be changed, I'll be very happy on my 12" PB... > > Other lists don't begin the Subject with the name of the list. I > can't > imagine why this one does. > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your > subscribed email address to: > missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com From ucgajpd at ucl.ac.uk Wed Jun 7 17:30:59 2006 From: ucgajpd at ucl.ac.uk (Jason Davies) Date: Wed Jun 7 17:31:00 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: missing-sync-palmos-talk Digest, Vol 37, Issue 3 In-Reply-To: <9916824D-17F5-4EAE-92FD-8CDF199449B7@PatriciaWarwick.com> Message-ID: >I beg to differ ... this is a common practice of many lists (certainly >many of the ones I subscribe to.) I was wrong. If they're using the same Mailman software as the lists I run (which the headers indicate they are) there is a setting in General options > Option > subject_prefix (general): Prefix for subject line of list postings. > > This text will be prepended to subject lines of messages posted to the list, to distinguish mailing list messages in in mailbox summaries. Brevity is premium here, it's ok to shorten long mailing list names to something more concise, as long as it still identifies the mailing list. > > so all they have to do is change that setting to something, thus messing up most of our email filters but allowing us to see the whole subject line. Now there's an issue which is guranteed to annoy half the list, whatever they choose...but it can be (easily) done at their end. over to the Missing Sync people to decide on this... From kerryon at pacbell.net Thu Jun 8 01:27:30 2006 From: kerryon at pacbell.net (Kerry Millerick) Date: Thu Jun 8 01:27:50 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] MemoPad sync: "incompatible version" Message-ID: I used the conduit setting for Mark/Space MemoPad "desktop overwrites handheld." Now when I click on "Memos" on my Treo 650 I get an error message: "Version Incompatible: The database for this application is an incompatible version." How can I get all my memos to show up on my Treo? (Note: the memos are all visible in the MemoPad application on the Mac.) Thanks, Kerry From davidturley at pobox.com Thu Jun 8 04:31:23 2006 From: davidturley at pobox.com (David Turley) Date: Thu Jun 8 04:31:22 2006 Subject: [OT] Re: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: missing-sync-palmos-talk Digest, Vol 37, Issue 3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Jun 7, 2006, at 8:30 PM, Jason Davies wrote: > so all they have to do is change that setting to something, thus > messing up most of our email filters but allowing us to see the > whole subject line. The proper way to filter would be on the "List-Id:" header. That way mail can be filtered AND the subject is not so long. List-Id: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Palm OS\) Discussion List" From missing-sync-palmos-talk at sjk.us Thu Jun 8 15:04:36 2006 From: missing-sync-palmos-talk at sjk.us (Scott J. Kramer) Date: Thu Jun 8 15:04:47 2006 Subject: [OT] Re: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: missing-sync-palmos-talk Digest, Vol 37, Issue 3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <676CDD6D-4055-4509-AEED-BF1D37C52FA8@sjk.us> On Jun 8, 2006, at 01:31 , David Turley wrote: > > On Jun 7, 2006, at 8:30 PM, Jason Davies wrote: > >> so all they have to do is change that setting to something, thus >> messing up most of our email filters but allowing us to see the >> whole subject line. > > The proper way to filter would be on the "List-Id:" header. That > way mail can be filtered AND the subject is not so long. Exactly. Filtering on Subject headers is my least favorite method. > List-Id: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Palm OS\) Discussion List" An Apple Mail rule could include: List-Id Contains missing-sync-palmos-talk.lists.markspace.com Unfortunately that only works with rules since Mail still doesn't have general support for arbitrary message headers searches (e.g. in Smart Mailboxes). -sjk From ajnbass at mindspring.com Fri Jun 9 20:33:11 2006 From: ajnbass at mindspring.com (Adam Nitti) Date: Fri Jun 9 20:31:46 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] mac iCal calendar sync problem Message-ID: <821E9D0E-E633-45A8-970D-A9C20255D3FA@mindspring.com> Hello- I am using a Treo 650 w/Missing Sync v.5.1... I regularly sync my iCal calendar program on my PowerBook with the Treo. Most everything works great, but there is one inconsistency that is giving me problems. Events that I have entered in my iCal program (as 'All Day' events) that recur across multiple days show up as single day's event on my Treo calendar. In other words, the calendar records do not retain their 'multi-day' status when they are transferred into the Treo's calendar. Is there a way to remedy this? Thanks in advance for any help! From davidturley at pobox.com Fri Jun 9 20:40:04 2006 From: davidturley at pobox.com (David Turley) Date: Fri Jun 9 20:40:07 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] mac iCal calendar sync problem In-Reply-To: <821E9D0E-E633-45A8-970D-A9C20255D3FA@mindspring.com> References: <821E9D0E-E633-45A8-970D-A9C20255D3FA@mindspring.com> Message-ID: On Jun 9, 2006, at 11:33 PM, Adam Nitti wrote: > Hello- > > I am using a Treo 650 w/Missing Sync v.5.1... I regularly sync my > iCal calendar program on my PowerBook with the Treo. Most > everything works great, but there is one inconsistency that is > giving me problems. Events that I have entered in my iCal program > (as 'All Day' events) that recur across multiple days show up as > single day's event on my Treo calendar. In other words, the > calendar records do not retain their 'multi-day' status when they > are transferred into the Treo's calendar. Is there a way to remedy > this? You need to create a repeating event, not an event spanning multiple days, which aren't supported on the Palm OS. http://www.markspace.com/support/index.php?x=&mod_id=2&id=2563 Multi-day all day events If an all day event lasting more than one day is created in iCal, it appears as a banner, spanning multiple days. The Palm calendar application cannot do this ? an event must begin and end on the same date. When a banner event is synchronized from iCal, it will only appear on the first day of the span in the Palm calendar. If a change is made to the event on the Palm, the original iCal event will be changed to be a single-day all day event because of the parameters in the Palm event. If an all-day repeating event is created on the Palm, it will sync as discrete reperating events in iCal. From admin at kissphotography.com.au Sat Jun 10 21:13:43 2006 From: admin at kissphotography.com.au (kiss photography.) Date: Sat Jun 10 21:13:38 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Duplicated Birthdays from iCal. Message-ID: <72D30A4C-5092-4DF7-8AD9-DFF751892D30@kissphotography.com.au> Hello all, I've recently got a Palm Treo 650 for sharing my iCal calendars via Missing Sync. iCal 2.0.3 OS X 10.4.6 Palm OS v.5.4.8 Missing Sync for Palm OS 5.1.0 Palm desktop software not installed. I am having the reoccurring situation where my read only Birthday anniversaries (originating from Address Book) are repeated in the Palm Calendar. I am only syncing Events and Tasks to the Treo - not contacts or the Address Book. The Birthdays are not repeated in iCal. The first time I noticed this I removed the repeats on the Treo by syncing with "Overwrite handheld with desktop data" This was fine but they have just re-appeared after my latest sync. I had a few events spanning multiple days in iCal so I reorganized those to be a series of singular daily events in succession (so that they would display correctly in Palm OS Calendar) - this is all I have changed between the two syncs. When I first noticed the repeated birthdays there seemed to be the same number of repeats as times I had synced to the mac. Thanks for any clues on this one. From Patricia at PatriciaWarwick.com Sat Jun 10 21:50:21 2006 From: Patricia at PatriciaWarwick.com (Patricia Warwick) Date: Sat Jun 10 21:50:26 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Duplicated Birthdays from iCal. In-Reply-To: <72D30A4C-5092-4DF7-8AD9-DFF751892D30@kissphotography.com.au> References: <72D30A4C-5092-4DF7-8AD9-DFF751892D30@kissphotography.com.au> Message-ID: <516F6DD3-0F9E-47C2-8A46-68408D7503A5@PatriciaWarwick.com> Have you specified that you don't want to sync the Birthdays calendar in iCal? On 11-Jun-06, at 12:13 AM, kiss photography. wrote: > Hello all, > > I've recently got a Palm Treo 650 for sharing my iCal calendars via > Missing Sync. > iCal 2.0.3 > OS X 10.4.6 > Palm OS v.5.4.8 > Missing Sync for Palm OS 5.1.0 > Palm desktop software not installed. > > I am having the reoccurring situation where my read only Birthday > anniversaries (originating from Address Book) are repeated in the > Palm Calendar. > I am only syncing Events and Tasks to the Treo - not contacts or > the Address Book. > > The Birthdays are not repeated in iCal. > The first time I noticed this I removed the repeats on the Treo by > syncing with "Overwrite handheld with desktop data" > > This was fine but they have just re-appeared after my latest sync. > I had a few events spanning multiple days in iCal so I reorganized > those to be a series of singular daily events in succession (so > that they would display correctly in Palm OS Calendar) - this is > all I have changed between the two syncs. > > When I first noticed the repeated birthdays there seemed to be the > same number of repeats as times I had synced to the mac. > > > Thanks for any clues on this one. > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your > subscribed email address to: > missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com From macnrover at mac.com Sat Jun 10 21:53:00 2006 From: macnrover at mac.com (Jsoh Smiley) Date: Sat Jun 10 21:53:43 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] symbian os Message-ID: <3232824819.171841@smtp.mac.com> Any chance symbian will get your support? ----------------------- Sent with ChatterEmail+ True push email for the Treo Smartphone http://get.chatteremail.com From aben2amu at gmail.com Sat Jun 10 23:18:13 2006 From: aben2amu at gmail.com (A J Benamu) Date: Sat Jun 10 23:18:15 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] symbian os In-Reply-To: <3232824819.171841@smtp.mac.com> References: <3232824819.171841@smtp.mac.com> Message-ID: <66482B30-5912-4998-9FDD-AE92A00FA772@gmail.com> iSync works with Symbian OS phones. AJ On Jun 10, 2006, at 11:53 PM, Jsoh Smiley wrote: > Any chance symbian will get your support? > ----------------------- > Sent with ChatterEmail+ > True push email for the Treo Smartphone > http://get.chatteremail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your > subscribed email address to: > missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com From MacnRover at mac.com Sat Jun 10 23:20:40 2006 From: MacnRover at mac.com (josh smiley) Date: Sat Jun 10 23:20:41 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] symbian os In-Reply-To: <66482B30-5912-4998-9FDD-AE92A00FA772@gmail.com> References: <3232824819.171841@smtp.mac.com> <66482B30-5912-4998-9FDD-AE92A00FA772@gmail.com> Message-ID: <14483517-00C0-44A1-9EF7-772C16DF552A@mac.com> it also works with palm os too......... From admin at kissphotography.com.au Sun Jun 11 13:23:07 2006 From: admin at kissphotography.com.au (kiss photography) Date: Sun Jun 11 13:23:14 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: missing-sync-palmos-talk Digest, Vol 37, Issue 10 In-Reply-To: <200606111901.k5BJ0Bwf028203@sparrow.markspace.com> References: <200606111901.k5BJ0Bwf028203@sparrow.markspace.com> Message-ID: <45335D1E-DE35-4934-9129-01FB671163AD@kissphotography.com.au> > > Have you specified that you don't want to sync the Birthdays calendar > in iCal? Thanks for the suggestion - I have turned it off and so far no more repeats, which is understandable. rather I was wondering if there was anything known on the iCal side of things which is known to cause it. From missingsync at quantentunnel.de Mon Jun 12 23:20:33 2006 From: missingsync at quantentunnel.de (Martin) Date: Mon Jun 12 23:21:29 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] 'Handheld overwrites Desktop' for address book and datebook In-Reply-To: <1ab89b435c8e69911eef5b626c1dc40c@tiscali.de> Message-ID: Has any one of you thought of synching *without* iSync/SyncServices? > You see, it is possible! The only weak part in my construction is the > sync between my Palm and iSync which doesn't garantuee conflict free > synchronization. The rest works fine. [ THINK DIFFERENT ] Meaning: "Think non-Apple" ;-) There is a very good application called Daylite http://www.marketcircle.com/. It allows you to do ALL you want. Once you're set, you can then export all into iCal or AddressBook -- just in case you really do NEED to use the data with other Macintosh integrated features like widgets, macnews.de, etc. I also have quite good experience with another application which also synchs independently. It can sync (one way) TO iCal/Addressbook at any given moment. Their conduit is under strong development. It's called PackOrganizer: http://www.rubensoft.com Martin From tobiaseigen at gmail.com Tue Jun 13 05:54:55 2006 From: tobiaseigen at gmail.com (Tobias Eigen) Date: Tue Jun 13 05:54:55 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Google Calendars In-Reply-To: <1BFD7569-4D80-4073-B4AB-837631FE7CC6@cs.unm.edu> References: <669F42C1-E2D0-4410-AB80-018B94FB0E14@cs.unm.edu> <444D9B26.4080204@bu.edu> <444E26E1.4010107@fastmail.fm> <1BFD7569-4D80-4073-B4AB-837631FE7CC6@cs.unm.edu> Message-ID: <2f401ce90606130554m6155dee1u4eac3545a95c5181@mail.gmail.com> Hi all - I missed this discussion back in April, but want to express appreciation for the points raised below and add my vote that it would be very useful if markspace were to write a sync tool for Palm/Google calendar. I am finding myself abandoning iCal and my PDA in favor of Google calendar, then being stuck without it when I'm not near a computer. Google calendar suits the way I use computers, much like other nifty "social networking" tools like flickr. I use many computers (desktop/laptop/office) and I share with many people (family, friends and colleagues). If Google calendar (or one like it - I recognize that there are multipel good online calendars - but Google is the one with the open API that I know of) could be the "truth" calendar that syncs with my Tungsten for when I am offline, that would be superb. Otherwise I will be looking for some other solution - right now it's printing out calendars! This effectively turns my Tungsten into a glorified addressbook and alarm clock, which is rather sad really. Incidentally, subscribing to the Google calendar iCal calendar doesn't work properly using missing sync, even accepting that it's read only. I now have multiple entries for events from the Google calendar in my tungsten so I've abandoned that idea. Cheers, Tobias On 4/25/06, Barney Maccabe wrote: > > On Apr 25, 2006, at 7:40 AM, zoara wrote: > > > > > > > Derik DeLong wrote: > >> On 4/24/06, Daniel Goldenholz wrote: > >>> Barney > >>> > >>> Wow! I didn't hear about Google Calendars. They are very cool. > >>> Thanks > >>> for mentioning them. > >> > >> I don't think Google can do anything about this. The iCal > >> subscription mechanism doesn't allow for subscribers to push changes > >> back. Unless they come up with a whole new protocol, I don't see > >> what > >> they can do (and even if they do, they'd have to get Apple on board). > > > > Wouldn't it be possible to bypass iCal and sync the Sync Services > > database (the "truth") to an online system? You'd just need an > > application that can access the truth and can also read/write to > > Google > > or another online calendaring system. > > > > iCal needn't be involved at all, I think. > > Yep, that's true -- Google is about to publish their calendar api and > someone (perhaps MS) could write a sync tool (I'm not going to hold > my breath, but I will encourage them :). My purpose in subscribing > to my google calendar was to be able to read it off-line and to sync > it to my palm. The first of these works, the second doesn't. > > > > As far as I'm concerned, I'm not that interested in Google Calendars > > until I can point my friends at a URL that they can access without > > signing up for anything. If they need to sign up, they won't bother. I > > currently have my calendars published at icalx.com and (at the moment) > > that's good enough for me. > > That's why I push the subscribed calendar to my .mac account (where > it seems to mess up the time for non repeating events). > > I understand that these are not ideal solutions, but it seems that > they should work. > > > -- > Barney Maccabe > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your subscribed email address to: > missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com > -- Tobias Eigen home: +1-206-842-1467 skype: tobiaseigen From bmcewen at comcast.net Tue Jun 13 06:50:08 2006 From: bmcewen at comcast.net (bmcewen@comcast.net) Date: Tue Jun 13 06:50:08 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Google Calendars Message-ID: <061320061350.13278.448EC290000BFD8C000033DE2213528573020A990A0C030D@comcast.net> > > > As far as I'm concerned, I'm not that interested in Google Calendars > > > until I can point my friends at a URL that they can access without > > > signing up for anything. If they need to sign up, they won't bother. I > > > currently have my calendars published at icalx.com and (at the moment) > > > that's good enough for me. I lost the original poster of this, but: how is this working? What tools can you use with it/ what really works. B From jamesareddy at yahoo.com Tue Jun 13 06:57:37 2006 From: jamesareddy at yahoo.com (James T. AREDDY) Date: Tue Jun 13 06:57:36 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] osx sync with treo 650 help request Message-ID: <20060613135737.93395.qmail@web34609.mail.mud.yahoo.com> does anyone have a screenshot that may help me resolve conflicts? i have: missing sync v4.0.6 osx v10.3.9 treo650 backupbuddy vfs3.3 isync v1.5 palmdesktop none i dont care how i do it but i want to be able to sync the treo with the mac. this worked before but for some reason just doesnt now. i dont know my way around the conflicts and markspace advice has been too technical for me. i would be grateful for a screenshot of a basic setup if anyone has it. thank you. jta. From alan.schmitt at polytechnique.org Wed Jun 14 00:45:10 2006 From: alan.schmitt at polytechnique.org (Alan Schmitt) Date: Wed Jun 14 00:45:16 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Markspace Notebook for Palm? Message-ID: <7E4731CD-10E7-47A1-8B35-0721BBD5ED11@polytechnique.org> Hello, I've just read through the new MS PSP product page, and the "Notebook" application seems really nice. Any chance we might see it on the Palm side of things? Thanks, Alan -- Alan Schmitt The hacker: someone who figured things out and made something cool happen. .O. ..O OOO From sgruby at markspace.com Wed Jun 14 12:10:12 2006 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Wed Jun 14 12:10:33 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Markspace Notebook for Palm? In-Reply-To: <7E4731CD-10E7-47A1-8B35-0721BBD5ED11@polytechnique.org> References: <7E4731CD-10E7-47A1-8B35-0721BBD5ED11@polytechnique.org> Message-ID: <8CBECD6A-205B-4541-BF50-6F4CCFF9AE8E@markspace.com> On Jun 14, 2006, at 12:45 AM, Alan Schmitt wrote: > Hello, > > I've just read through the new MS PSP product page, and the > "Notebook" application seems really nice. Any chance we might see > it on the Palm side of things? > It is our intention to bring the Notebook application to other products in our product line. However, at this time we don't have a timetable on when it will come to the Palm OS product. -- Scott Gruby Mark/Space, Inc. Please visit for assistance with Mark/Space products. From jamescummings at gmail.com Wed Jun 14 14:42:08 2006 From: jamescummings at gmail.com (James Cummings) Date: Wed Jun 14 14:42:06 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Google Calendar In-Reply-To: <696CB88E-88DD-41FF-ACC4-CBB4E7A5E3D4@atmasphere.net> References: <696CB88E-88DD-41FF-ACC4-CBB4E7A5E3D4@atmasphere.net> Message-ID: I finally tried this, and it does nothing on my Treo. I see that there is now a windows sync tool from companionlink, but I haven't seen anything on syncing with the Mac. On 6/1/06, Jonathan Greene wrote: > Seen this? http://www.gcalsync.com/ > > > On Jun 1, 2006, at 9:02 PM, James Cummings wrote: > > > Are there any plans to add syncing with Google Calendar to missing > > sync? Or has anyone figured out how to do this yet? > > _______________________________________________ > > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > > To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your > > subscribed email address to: > > missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your subscribed email address to: > missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com > From maccabe at cs.unm.edu Wed Jun 14 15:21:29 2006 From: maccabe at cs.unm.edu (Barney Maccabe) Date: Wed Jun 14 15:21:09 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Google Calendars In-Reply-To: <061320061350.13278.448EC290000BFD8C000033DE2213528573020A990A0C030D@comcast.net> References: <061320061350.13278.448EC290000BFD8C000033DE2213528573020A990A0C030D@comcast.net> Message-ID: No fix yet. I'm kind of surprised that the MS folks haven't done anything for this yet ....... The idea was to subscribe to my Google calendar in iCal and then have MS copy the calendar to my palm device. In the future one would hope that MS will simply provide a Google sync conduit, but first, they need to understand Google's interpretation of the icalendar "standard". On Jun 13, 2006, at 7:50 AM, bmcewen@comcast.net wrote: > >>>> As far as I'm concerned, I'm not that interested in Google >>>> Calendars >>>> until I can point my friends at a URL that they can access without >>>> signing up for anything. If they need to sign up, they won't >>>> bother. I >>>> currently have my calendars published at icalx.com and (at the >>>> moment) >>>> that's good enough for me. > > I lost the original poster of this, but: how is this working? > What tools can you use with it/ what really works. > > B > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your > subscribed email address to: > missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com -- Barney Maccabe From admin at kissphotography.com.au Thu Jun 15 00:16:43 2006 From: admin at kissphotography.com.au (kiss photography.) Date: Thu Jun 15 00:16:50 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Sync Minder - daily reminders? Message-ID: <1FB950CC-C267-4B0C-8E29-D2905D7873DB@kissphotography.com.au> I have Sync Minder set for daily reminders on a machine that is put to sleep at night and only rebooted occasionally. Will Sync Minder still run constantly behind the scenes issuing reminders on a daily basis or does it only activate alerts on daily system startups? thanks. ps: when responding how do I ensure my responses remain under this particular thread? From nanajana at mac.com Thu Jun 15 18:37:06 2006 From: nanajana at mac.com (Jan C.) Date: Thu Jun 15 18:37:10 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Can't sync only iCal Message-ID: I am suddenly unable to sync Events/iCal with my Palm T3. All other conduits are working and I can sync the Palm Calendar with the Palm Desktop Calendar using Missing Sync. When I try to sync with iCal, the sync wheel goes around and there is a MS window saying "Pushing changes from device" but nothing happens. The Palm says "Synchronizing Calendar." After about 40 minutes the Palm says "Lost Connection" and "Hot sync interrupted." The sync wheel is still turning and MS still says "Pushing changes from device." Eventually I have to force quit and even restart with the Power Button. The Sync History just said "Sync starting at 6/15/06 2:56 PM (14:56:37) on USB (5.1.0)." Apple Sync Services is also not working with iCal so I wonder if the problems are related. However, at the moment I am unable to trouble shoot that because, thanks to Verizon sending me a wrong modem, I am without my usual DSL. Still it seems that Missing Sync should be able to sync locally with the Palm and the PowerBook iCal. Or can iCal be corrupted? It doesn't seem to be. I put this problem on the Mark-Space Web site about 5 days ago but have not had a response. Missing Sync 5.1, OSX 10.4.6, iCal 2.0.3. Jan Chesne From chade at mac.com Thu Jun 15 23:07:03 2006 From: chade at mac.com (chad einbinder) Date: Thu Jun 15 23:07:09 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] RE PSP?! What about... In-Reply-To: <200606151900.k5FJ0BCY027256@sparrow.markspace.com> References: <200606151900.k5FJ0BCY027256@sparrow.markspace.com> Message-ID: <60E67076-FD28-46BF-9347-07FDFCD85DD1@mac.com> Let me get this straight. MarkSpace has put out a PSP sync?! When they haven't even had the decency to update the Missing sync for tmobil sidekick? That we already paid good money for? That works like crap? That's not only evil. It's stupid. And yes I'm pissed. And yes I know this isn't the right forum mailing. List. Come on Mark Space. You're better than that. On Jun 15, 2006, at 12:00 PM, missing-sync-palmos-talk- request@lists.markspace.com wrote: > Send missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list submissions to > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > missing-sync-palmos-talk-request@lists.markspace.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > missing-sync-palmos-talk-owner@lists.markspace.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of missing-sync-palmos-talk digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Markspace Notebook for Palm? (Scott Gruby) > 2. Re: Google Calendar (James Cummings) > 3. Re: Google Calendars (Barney Maccabe) > 4. Sync Minder - daily reminders? (kiss photography.) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 12:10:12 -0700 > From: Scott Gruby > Subject: Re: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Markspace Notebook for Palm? > To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Palm OS\) Discussion List" > > Message-ID: <8CBECD6A-205B-4541-BF50-6F4CCFF9AE8E@markspace.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed > > > On Jun 14, 2006, at 12:45 AM, Alan Schmitt wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I've just read through the new MS PSP product page, and the >> "Notebook" application seems really nice. Any chance we might see >> it on the Palm side of things? >> > > It is our intention to bring the Notebook application to other > products in our product line. However, at this time we don't have a > timetable on when it will come to the Palm OS product. > > -- > Scott Gruby > Mark/Space, Inc. > > > Please visit for assistance with > Mark/Space products. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 17:42:08 -0400 > From: "James Cummings" > Subject: Re: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Google Calendar > To: "The Missing Sync (Mac/Palm OS) Discussion List" > > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > I finally tried this, and it does nothing on my Treo. I see that there > is now a windows sync tool from companionlink, but I haven't seen > anything on syncing with the Mac. > > > On 6/1/06, Jonathan Greene wrote: >> Seen this? http://www.gcalsync.com/ >> >> >> On Jun 1, 2006, at 9:02 PM, James Cummings wrote: >> >>> Are there any plans to add syncing with Google Calendar to missing >>> sync? Or has anyone figured out how to do this yet? >>> _______________________________________________ >>> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >>> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >>> To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your >>> subscribed email address to: >>> missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >> To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your >> subscribed email address to: >> missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 16:21:29 -0600 > From: Barney Maccabe > Subject: Re: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Google Calendars > To: "The Missing Sync (Mac/Palm OS) Discussion List" > > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed > > > > No fix yet. I'm kind of surprised that the MS folks haven't done > anything for this yet ....... > > The idea was to subscribe to my Google calendar in iCal and then have > MS copy the calendar to my palm device. In the future one would hope > that MS will simply provide a Google sync conduit, but first, they > need to understand Google's interpretation of the icalendar > "standard". > > > On Jun 13, 2006, at 7:50 AM, bmcewen@comcast.net wrote: > >> >>>>> As far as I'm concerned, I'm not that interested in Google >>>>> Calendars >>>>> until I can point my friends at a URL that they can access without >>>>> signing up for anything. If they need to sign up, they won't >>>>> bother. I >>>>> currently have my calendars published at icalx.com and (at the >>>>> moment) >>>>> that's good enough for me. >> >> I lost the original poster of this, but: how is this working? >> What tools can you use with it/ what really works. >> >> B >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >> To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your >> subscribed email address to: >> missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com > > -- > Barney Maccabe > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 17:16:43 +1000 > From: "kiss photography." > Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Sync Minder - daily reminders? > To: missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Message-ID: > <1FB950CC-C267-4B0C-8E29-D2905D7873DB@kissphotography.com.au> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed > > I have Sync Minder set for daily reminders on a machine that is put > to sleep at night and only rebooted occasionally. > Will Sync Minder still run constantly behind the scenes issuing > reminders on a daily basis or does it only activate alerts on daily > system startups? > thanks. > ps: when responding how do I ensure my responses remain under this > particular thread? > > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your > subscribed email address to: > missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com > > End of missing-sync-palmos-talk Digest, Vol 37, Issue 14 > ******************************************************** From wyneken at physik.uni-freiburg.de Fri Jun 16 01:43:53 2006 From: wyneken at physik.uni-freiburg.de (Matthew Wyneken) Date: Fri Jun 16 01:43:59 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Categories lost after restore from backup Message-ID: I purchased MS 5 shortly after it was released and had a bunch of problems. I lost a LOT of time recovering lost data. For a while I kept up with the bug fixes and updates but at one point I decided just to wait until the product seems to be bug-free before I lose any more time recovering data. Since that time I have not been using MS 5 to sync but just to backup my Palm. Judging by the discussion on this list, MS 5 seems to be mostly bugless so the time seems to have come for me to download the latest version and risk trying to sync again. Before I do that, though, there is one question I hope to find an answer to. One reason I lost so much time when I had to recover lost data was that restoring from backup always left me with all the items in my task list, calendar and address book in the "Unfiled" category. That means I had to painstakingly re-assign my categories to every item. That can take a lot of time, let me tell you! I was wondering if anyone knows why all the category assignments get lost? Does this happen to anyone else? I can't imagine that's a bug with MS. Is that a feature of PalmOS 5 (I'm using a Zire 72)? It never happened to me on my old M515 under PalmOS 4. -- Matthew Wyneken From Patricia at PatriciaWarwick.com Fri Jun 16 04:10:43 2006 From: Patricia at PatriciaWarwick.com (Patricia Warwick) Date: Fri Jun 16 04:10:48 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Categories lost after restore from backup In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6C994F0C-9548-470A-9C0F-8FD350965FD4@PatriciaWarwick.com> One of the reasons I upgraded to MS 5 was precisely because categories were synced correctly. Although I have had other problems this feature has always worked for me. I have Palm OS 5.4.8 and a Tungsten T5. I'm running MS 5.1. On 16-Jun-06, at 4:43 AM, Matthew Wyneken wrote: > I was wondering if anyone knows why all the category assignments > get lost? Does this happen to anyone else? I can't imagine that's a > bug with MS. Is that a feature of PalmOS 5 (I'm using a Zire 72)? > It never happened to me on my old M515 under PalmOS 4. From wyneken at physik.uni-freiburg.de Fri Jun 16 05:28:05 2006 From: wyneken at physik.uni-freiburg.de (Matthew Wyneken) Date: Fri Jun 16 05:28:08 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Categories lost after restore from backup In-Reply-To: <6C994F0C-9548-470A-9C0F-8FD350965FD4@PatriciaWarwick.com> References: <6C994F0C-9548-470A-9C0F-8FD350965FD4@PatriciaWarwick.com> Message-ID: <8C2931CF-0057-46DA-97CF-31CFF93C4BED@physik.uni-freiburg.de> On 16.06.2006, at 13:10, Patricia Warwick wrote: > One of the reasons I upgraded to MS 5 was precisely because > categories were synced correctly. Although I have had other > problems this feature has always worked for me. Let me clarify. I'm not talking about *syncing* categories between Palm and Mac. I'm talking about *restoring* backed up versions of the Palm databases (*.pdb) back to the Palm. Anybody have any ideas? -- Matthew Wyneken From Patricia at PatriciaWarwick.com Fri Jun 16 06:51:07 2006 From: Patricia at PatriciaWarwick.com (Patricia Warwick) Date: Fri Jun 16 06:51:09 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Categories lost after restore from backup In-Reply-To: <8C2931CF-0057-46DA-97CF-31CFF93C4BED@physik.uni-freiburg.de> References: <6C994F0C-9548-470A-9C0F-8FD350965FD4@PatriciaWarwick.com> <8C2931CF-0057-46DA-97CF-31CFF93C4BED@physik.uni-freiburg.de> Message-ID: <34256FD8-3069-427F-B2CF-1BB85C0635EB@PatriciaWarwick.com> > >> One of the reasons I upgraded to MS 5 was precisely because >> categories were synced correctly. Although I have had other >> problems this feature has always worked for me. > > Let me clarify. I'm not talking about *syncing* categories between > Palm and Mac. I'm talking about *restoring* backed up versions of > the Palm databases (*.pdb) back to the Palm. I guess I was not specific enough in my reply ... that is precisely what I was talking about (unless I am still misinterpreting.) I got fed up with having to go through all of my contacts (in particular) after I did a reset on my Palm to restore the categories. From wyneken at physik.uni-freiburg.de Fri Jun 16 07:16:50 2006 From: wyneken at physik.uni-freiburg.de (Matthew Wyneken) Date: Fri Jun 16 07:16:54 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Categories lost after restore from backup In-Reply-To: <34256FD8-3069-427F-B2CF-1BB85C0635EB@PatriciaWarwick.com> References: <6C994F0C-9548-470A-9C0F-8FD350965FD4@PatriciaWarwick.com> <8C2931CF-0057-46DA-97CF-31CFF93C4BED@physik.uni-freiburg.de> <34256FD8-3069-427F-B2CF-1BB85C0635EB@PatriciaWarwick.com> Message-ID: <19197625-1CE1-42B4-9740-22FE331C256B@physik.uni-freiburg.de> On 16.06.2006, at 15:51, Patricia Warwick wrote: >> >>> One of the reasons I upgraded to MS 5 was precisely because >>> categories were synced correctly. Although I have had other >>> problems this feature has always worked for me. >> >> Let me clarify. I'm not talking about *syncing* categories between >> Palm and Mac. I'm talking about *restoring* backed up versions of >> the Palm databases (*.pdb) back to the Palm. > > I guess I was not specific enough in my reply ... that is precisely > what I was talking about (unless I am still misinterpreting.) I got > fed up with having to go through all of my contacts (in particular) > after I did a reset on my Palm to restore the categories. Hm, it does sound like we're talking about the same thing. Let me give you my current background. Yesterday for some unexpicable reason my Zire's battery discharged completely so I lost everything. I have been using MS's Backup conduit faithfully with the "Backup all databases" option clicked. I set the Backup conduit to do a "restore from backup" and hit the sync button. After syncing all my items were back, but everything was in the Unfiled category. It sounds like you've gone through this procedure before and the categories were not lost. So what are you doing differently from me? I'm using a Zire 72 with PalmOS V5.28004. -- Matthew Wyneken From Patricia at PatriciaWarwick.com Fri Jun 16 08:12:19 2006 From: Patricia at PatriciaWarwick.com (Patricia Warwick) Date: Fri Jun 16 08:16:06 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Categories lost after restore from backup In-Reply-To: <19197625-1CE1-42B4-9740-22FE331C256B@physik.uni-freiburg.de> References: <6C994F0C-9548-470A-9C0F-8FD350965FD4@PatriciaWarwick.com> <8C2931CF-0057-46DA-97CF-31CFF93C4BED@physik.uni-freiburg.de> <34256FD8-3069-427F-B2CF-1BB85C0635EB@PatriciaWarwick.com> <19197625-1CE1-42B4-9740-22FE331C256B@physik.uni-freiburg.de> Message-ID: <340743EF-60DE-40D8-BEEA-1502664EAA8E@PatriciaWarwick.com> It's been a while but I recollect is that I did just a regular sync (which should download everything automatically.) Since I had done a hard reset the Palm is back in its original condition i.e. without any user data. On 16-Jun-06, at 10:16 AM, Matthew Wyneken wrote: > > On 16.06.2006, at 15:51, Patricia Warwick wrote: > >>> >>>> One of the reasons I upgraded to MS 5 was precisely because >>>> categories were synced correctly. Although I have had other >>>> problems this feature has always worked for me. >>> >>> Let me clarify. I'm not talking about *syncing* categories >>> between Palm and Mac. I'm talking about *restoring* backed up >>> versions of the Palm databases (*.pdb) back to the Palm. >> >> I guess I was not specific enough in my reply ... that is >> precisely what I was talking about (unless I am still >> misinterpreting.) I got fed up with having to go through all of my >> contacts (in particular) after I did a reset on my Palm to restore >> the categories. > > Hm, it does sound like we're talking about the same thing. Let me > give you my current background. Yesterday for some unexpicable > reason my Zire's battery discharged completely so I lost > everything. I have been using MS's Backup conduit faithfully with > the "Backup all databases" option clicked. I set the Backup conduit > to do a "restore from backup" and hit the sync button. After > syncing all my items were back, but everything was in the Unfiled > category. > > It sounds like you've gone through this procedure before and the > categories were not lost. So what are you doing differently from > me? I'm using a Zire 72 with PalmOS V5.28004. > > -- > Matthew Wyneken > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your > subscribed email address to: > missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com From bwilson at markspace.com Fri Jun 16 12:38:44 2006 From: bwilson at markspace.com (Blaine Wilson) Date: Fri Jun 16 12:38:46 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Categories lost after restore from backup In-Reply-To: <19197625-1CE1-42B4-9740-22FE331C256B@physik.uni-freiburg.de> References: <6C994F0C-9548-470A-9C0F-8FD350965FD4@PatriciaWarwick.com> <8C2931CF-0057-46DA-97CF-31CFF93C4BED@physik.uni-freiburg.de> <34256FD8-3069-427F-B2CF-1BB85C0635EB@PatriciaWarwick.com> <19197625-1CE1-42B4-9740-22FE331C256B@physik.uni-freiburg.de> Message-ID: <747BB99B-A28E-46B9-8E6B-331021C8B717@markspace.com> HI Matthew, I restored my personal Treo 650 after palm repair returned it back to me (after a month and half, but that's another story) and all of my applications retained their category settings. I.e., All the applications I had put in a custom category remained in that category after the restore. Note, this was a brand-new replacement device, so none of my data was on the device until I restored it. Hopefully this helps. Regards, Blaine QA Engineer Mark/Space On Jun 16, 2006, at 7:16 AM, Matthew Wyneken wrote: > > On 16.06.2006, at 15:51, Patricia Warwick wrote: > >>> >>>> One of the reasons I upgraded to MS 5 was precisely because >>>> categories were synced correctly. Although I have had other >>>> problems this feature has always worked for me. >>> >>> Let me clarify. I'm not talking about *syncing* categories >>> between Palm and Mac. I'm talking about *restoring* backed up >>> versions of the Palm databases (*.pdb) back to the Palm. >> >> I guess I was not specific enough in my reply ... that is >> precisely what I was talking about (unless I am still >> misinterpreting.) I got fed up with having to go through all of my >> contacts (in particular) after I did a reset on my Palm to restore >> the categories. > > Hm, it does sound like we're talking about the same thing. Let me > give you my current background. Yesterday for some unexpicable > reason my Zire's battery discharged completely so I lost > everything. I have been using MS's Backup conduit faithfully with > the "Backup all databases" option clicked. I set the Backup conduit > to do a "restore from backup" and hit the sync button. After > syncing all my items were back, but everything was in the Unfiled > category. > > It sounds like you've gone through this procedure before and the > categories were not lost. So what are you doing differently from > me? I'm using a Zire 72 with PalmOS V5.28004. > > -- > Matthew Wyneken > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your > subscribed email address to: > missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com From albyrne at email.com Sat Jun 17 17:36:03 2006 From: albyrne at email.com (Al Byrne) Date: Sat Jun 17 17:36:14 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: Pocket Quicken 2.5 failed 0x400a In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At about 30/5/06 06:57 (GMT +1000), WY (mail@wlinkw.com) wrote: > Marcus Kyd at m100@mac.com wrote on 30/5/06 05:27: > >> I have installed pocket quicken 2.5 on a Mac running OS 10.3.9 and am >> getting a synchronization failed message when I try to sync. > > I recently had a similar problem moving onto Intel Mac. I ended up having to > reinstall the data files of Pocket Quicken on the Palm. If you already have > the data on there, then delete just the data files and leave the application > file. The next time you sync, it'll reconstruct all the data from zero. Just jumping in late here - one of the reasons I'm delaying making the leap to an intel Macbook is that I'd heard, somewhere, that the Pocket Quicken 2.5.1 conduit didn't handle running under Rosetta. Do you see any issues? Does it sync reliably? I have Pocket Quicken working well with my Treo 650/PB 12" 10.4.6 combination, and I don't want to lose the functionality while waiting for Landware to come up with a universal binary version of the conduit. Thanks -- Al Byrne albyrne (at) email (dot) com From laetitiapds at yahoo.com Sat Jun 17 21:06:12 2006 From: laetitiapds at yahoo.com (Laetitia Poisson de Souzy) Date: Sat Jun 17 21:06:10 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] problem with syncing address/contacts and calendar Message-ID: <20060618040612.2976.qmail@web53113.mail.yahoo.com> hi. i am hoping someone out there can help me. i am trying to sync addresses/contact and calendar events using a palm LifeDrive (palm os)and Mac OSX 10.3.9. i can get everything else to sync (music, photos, etc), but can't sync addresses/contacts nor calendar events. specifically, i can enter contacts or calendar events on the palm itself, but can't get it to sync to the computer (i checked both ical and the palm desktop calendar), not can i get things i enter on ical/addresses or the palm calendar to sync to my palm itself. please help. thanks. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From laetitiapds at yahoo.com Sun Jun 18 13:10:33 2006 From: laetitiapds at yahoo.com (Laetitia Poisson de Souzy) Date: Sun Jun 18 13:10:31 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] can't find conduit for addresses/contacts nor events/calendar Message-ID: <20060618201033.38013.qmail@web53109.mail.yahoo.com> hi. i just got my palm yesterday and noticed that everything syncs EXCEPT my addresses/contacts and events/calendar. i checked the conduit settings and noticed that there is nothing listed for these categories. any ideas? thanks, __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From HCowdrick at aol.com Sun Jun 18 13:48:24 2006 From: HCowdrick at aol.com (HCowdrick@aol.com) Date: Sun Jun 18 13:48:23 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] problem with syncing address/contacts and calendar Message-ID: <306.63b59f3.31c71618@aol.com> have you checked the conduit settings on missing sync conduit page? Howard "Life disappears, one day at a time." http://hcowdrick.blogspot.com/ http://www.hcowdrick.com From laetitiapds at yahoo.com Sun Jun 18 14:13:05 2006 From: laetitiapds at yahoo.com (Laetitia Poisson de Souzy) Date: Sun Jun 18 14:13:05 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] problem with syncing address/contacts and calendar In-Reply-To: <306.63b59f3.31c71618@aol.com> Message-ID: <20060618211305.53377.qmail@web53111.mail.yahoo.com> hi. so nice of you to respond. i'm feeling sooooo frustrated. i did check the settings, and addresses/contacts nor events/calendar do not show up. i am using a mac osx with 10.3.9 and it looks like the conduits for the addresses/contacts are only supported for mac osx 10.4, but the info isn't syncing with the palm desktop either. in frustration, i uninstalled missing sync and tried just using the palm desktop, but couldn't get that to even sync ANYTHING at all. it's as if the desktop doesn't even know my palm is connected. so...i deleted all the palm software, then re-installed it. still, i could not get it to sync. the only thing i haven't tried is a HARD RESET...since i have been entering this vital info directly into the palm, i'm hesitant to do it. thanks for your help. laetitia --- HCowdrick@aol.com wrote: > have you checked the conduit settings on missing > sync conduit page? > > > > Howard > > "Life disappears, one day at a time." > > http://hcowdrick.blogspot.com/ > http://www.hcowdrick.com > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) > from your subscribed email address to: > missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com > Laetitia Poisson de Souzy, MSIV UC Davis School of Medicine laetitiapds@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From laetitiapds at yahoo.com Sun Jun 18 14:13:31 2006 From: laetitiapds at yahoo.com (Laetitia Poisson de Souzy) Date: Sun Jun 18 14:13:32 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] problem with syncing address/contacts and calendar In-Reply-To: <306.63b59f3.31c71618@aol.com> Message-ID: <20060618211331.26498.qmail@web53108.mail.yahoo.com> hi. so nice of you to respond. i'm feeling sooooo frustrated. i did check the settings, and addresses/contacts nor events/calendar do not show up. i am using a mac osx with 10.3.9 and it looks like the conduits for the addresses/contacts are only supported for mac osx 10.4, but the info isn't syncing with the palm desktop either. in frustration, i uninstalled missing sync and tried just using the palm desktop, but couldn't get that to even sync ANYTHING at all. it's as if the desktop doesn't even know my palm is connected. so...i deleted all the palm software, then re-installed it. still, i could not get it to sync. the only thing i haven't tried is a HARD RESET...since i have been entering this vital info directly into the palm, i'm hesitant to do it. thanks for your help. laetitia --- HCowdrick@aol.com wrote: > have you checked the conduit settings on missing > sync conduit page? > > > > Howard > > "Life disappears, one day at a time." > > http://hcowdrick.blogspot.com/ > http://www.hcowdrick.com > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) > from your subscribed email address to: > missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com > Laetitia Poisson de Souzy, MSIV UC Davis School of Medicine laetitiapds@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From HCowdrick at aol.com Sun Jun 18 17:47:28 2006 From: HCowdrick at aol.com (HCowdrick@aol.com) Date: Sun Jun 18 17:47:39 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] problem with syncing address/contacts and calendar Message-ID: <522.4b221d.31c74e20@aol.com> Are you using addressbook? I use the mark space contacts and ical settings for my addresses and contacts and calendar functions. Might want to give that a whirl and see what happens. I actually prefer the addressbook over the palm desktop these days. When all else fails write a note to tech support, so far, they have been most helpful when I get in a true bind. Howard "Life disappears, one day at a time." http://hcowdrick.blogspot.com/ http://www.hcowdrick.com From missingsync at quantentunnel.de Sun Jun 18 21:09:19 2006 From: missingsync at quantentunnel.de (Martin) Date: Sun Jun 18 21:10:32 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Foldersync Message-ID: Foldersync : In MissingSync's main window it ALWAYS says "Synchronize folders" - as opposed to "Handheld overwrites Desktop" or "Desktop overwrites Handheld" as it sometimes will say with other conduits. Yet there are 3 choices for setting up Folder sync. I think it would be better to state here (in the main window) rather the phrase "See conduit settings" or "Click Settings for info". This would be more _true_. As it is written now, it is _false_ because my settings are "Overwrite Handheld". ... nothing worse than an application that "lies" to you ... ;-) Martin From tmoss at onetel.com Mon Jun 19 03:56:19 2006 From: tmoss at onetel.com (Tuckerman Moss) Date: Mon Jun 19 03:56:19 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Mark/Space Memo In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sorry for a silly little question - but Mark/Space Memo is not installed on my Palm that I can find and I cannot find where the .prc file is to load it back on. What on earth am I mssing? Tuck From tmoss at onetel.com Mon Jun 19 04:09:49 2006 From: tmoss at onetel.com (Tuckerman Moss) Date: Mon Jun 19 04:09:49 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Mark/Space Memo 2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <12AE40D5-1A56-4026-A4D2-58AF351112E7@onetel.com> > Sorry for a silly little question - but Mark/Space Memo is not > installed on my Palm that I can find and I cannot find where > the .prc file is to load it back on. What on earth am I mssing? Opps - dumb question. Sorry about that. Answered it myself. ;-) Tuck From Stan.Warford at pepperdine.edu Mon Jun 19 14:17:40 2006 From: Stan.Warford at pepperdine.edu (Stan Warford) Date: Mon Jun 19 14:25:22 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Downloading FROM Treo to iCal/Address Book Message-ID: Hello all, My Mac was stolen from my office complete with iCal and Address Book data and backup data. I had done a synch with my Treo 600, so all the data is on my handheld. Now I want to download the data on my Treo 600 to a newly authorized computer and make sure that the data will not be wiped out the first time I synch it up. I am running Mac OS X 10.4.6 (Tiger) and Missing Synch 5.1.0. I am concerned because the installation instructions say that Missing Synch will get its initial data from the computer, and cannot get it from the handheld. From this paragraph from the manual: =================== The Mark/Space Contacts conduit allows you to either synchronize your Mac and your Palm device or to overwrite the data on your Palm with that from your Mac. Sync Services conduits do not presently have the option to have device data overwrite the Mac?s. You can choose to sync all or selected Address Book groups. =================== I cannot tell what will happen. Does "... conduits do not presently have the option to have device data overwrite the Mac?s." mean that I cannot transfer my handheld data to my Mac? Or, does "... allows you to either synchronize your Mac and your Palm device or to overwrite the data on your Palm with that from your Mac." mean that if I choose to synchronize, my data will be transferred from my handheld to my Mac? So, my question is, Can I simply install Missing Synch, then synch my handheld without losing my data? Or, must I find some way to download my handheld data and get it into iCal and Address Book before I set up Missing Synch? I THINK if I install Missing Synch then synchronize I will be safe, but obviously I want to be 100% sure of this before I do anything, because I do NOT want to reconstruct my calendar and address book manually. Thanks for any help. Stan From bohdanz at gmail.com Mon Jun 19 20:49:00 2006 From: bohdanz at gmail.com (Bohdan Zachary) Date: Mon Jun 19 20:49:07 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Calendar sync error - please help Message-ID: For the last month I continually am unable to sync my Tunsten E2 calendar to the Entourage on my Mac. Here's the error message I got tonight. If you can suggest any workarounds I'd appreciate it. Thank you. Bohdan Syncing Calendar An unknown error #16394 occurred Failed Entourage Conduit (0x400a) >>> Unexpected error 16394. From bohdanz at gmail.com Tue Jun 20 09:18:54 2006 From: bohdanz at gmail.com (bohdanz) Date: Tue Jun 20 09:18:52 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Sync history says 'fine' but can't sync Calendar (again) Message-ID: Here's this morning's sync history between my E2 Tungsten and Entourage on my Mac. Seemingly everythying should have synced, according to the log but the one place it doesn't is my Calendar. I don't have Mark/Space Events checked (using only the Entourage conduit.) Would this make a difference? Here's my sync log: Sync starting at 6/20/06 7:45 AM (07:45:28) on USB (5.1.0) OK Install Syncing Address Book Syncing Address Book Syncing Notes Syncing Notes Syncing Calendar Syncing Calendar Syncing Tasks Syncing Tasks OK Entourage Conduit OK Media OK SplashID OK SplashShopper OK Install Backed up ContactsDB-PAdd Backed up CalendarDB-PDat Backed up TasksDB-PTod Backed up Queries Backed up AddressDB Backed up DatebookDB Backed up ToDoDB Backed up WordToGoFonts Backed up UninstallManagerData Backed up psysLaunchDB Backed up Saved Preferences OK Backup Sync completed successfully at 6/20/06 7:52 AM (07:52:28) From trevor at vocaro.com Tue Jun 20 12:25:52 2006 From: trevor at vocaro.com (Trevor Harmon) Date: Tue Jun 20 12:25:58 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] AppleScript to remove duplicate alarms in iCal Message-ID: <3AABD795-CC4A-45CA-9CCC-8B3D69600981@vocaro.com> Back in November, I had written about problems I was having with duplicate alarms in iCal after syncing [1]. I ended up writing a script to remove all the duplicates. That solved the problem...until I had to re-install The Missing Sync last week, and the problem cropped up again. This time, instead of the duplicates appearing as display-only alarms, they were sound alarms with no sound specified, and unfortunately my old script didn't handle this kind of duplicate. So, I've modified it and released a new version [2]. I hope someone finds it useful. (I assume I'm not the only one seeing duplicate alarms after syncing.) Trevor [1] http://lists.markspace.com/pipermail/missing-sync-palmos-talk/ 2005-November/005984.html [2] http://vocaro.com/trevor/software/applescript/ From ttres at spamcop.net Tue Jun 20 12:44:17 2006 From: ttres at spamcop.net (Thomas Maler) Date: Tue Jun 20 12:44:19 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: missing-sync-palmos-talk Digest, Vol 37, Issue 19 In-Reply-To: <200606201900.k5KJ0GE3027798@sparrow.markspace.com> References: <200606201900.k5KJ0GE3027798@sparrow.markspace.com> Message-ID: <32F553DD-2023-4C88-89AB-327B83CA8544@spamcop.net> On 20-Jun-06, at 3:00 PM, missing-sync-palmos-talk- request@lists.markspace.com wrote: > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 14:17:40 -0700 > From: Stan Warford > Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Downloading FROM Treo to > iCal/Address Book > To: "The Missing Sync ((Mac/Palm OS)) Discussion List" > > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; > format=flowed > > Hello all, > > My Mac was stolen from my office complete with iCal and Address Book > data and backup data. I had done a synch with my Treo 600, so all the > data is on my handheld. Now I want to download the data on my Treo > 600 to a newly authorized computer and make sure that the data will > not be wiped out the first time I synch it up. I am running Mac OS X > 10.4.6 (Tiger) and Missing Synch 5.1.0. > > I am concerned because the installation instructions say that Missing > Synch will get its initial data from the computer, and cannot get it > from the handheld. From this paragraph from the manual: > > =================== > The Mark/Space Contacts conduit allows you to either synchronize your > Mac and your Palm device or to overwrite the data on your Palm with > that from your Mac. Sync Services conduits do not presently have the > option to have device data overwrite the Mac?s. You can choose to > sync all or selected Address Book groups. > =================== > > I cannot tell what will happen. Does "... conduits do not presently > have the option to have device data overwrite the Mac?s." mean that I > cannot transfer my handheld data to my Mac? Or, does "... allows you > to either synchronize your Mac and your Palm device or to overwrite > the data on your Palm with that from your Mac." mean that if I choose > to synchronize, my data will be transferred from my handheld to my > Mac? I think so, but I am not 100% sure, it is SUPPOSED to mingle - merge - data from both, so if there is 0 data on the mac and lots of data on the Treo, it should merge - ie. bring the treo data to the mac. > > So, my question is, Can I simply install Missing Synch, then synch my > handheld without losing my data? it SHOULD work, > > Or, must I find some way to download my handheld data and get it into > iCal and Address Book before I set up Missing Synch? > > I THINK if I install Missing Synch then synchronize I will be safe, > but obviously I want to be 100% sure of this before I do anything, > because I do NOT want to reconstruct my calendar and address book > manually. I would definitely run the Backup conduit first, so that even if the Treo accidentally gets wiped during the Sync, you can restore it for the backup, There is also BackupBuddy and SyncBuddy to help with this, but they may not be necessary. The Backup conduit from Missing Sync should do it. I remember that in the old Palm Desktop, it was possible to replace the Computer data with that from the pda, so it may be possible to install Palm desktop first and try to get it to transfer the data to the Mac and than install and run Missing Sync. I have no idea if this is a good suggestion or not. One more idea: If I remember correctly, it is possible to sync Entourage in Microsoft Office 2004, you have to first install the conduit, there is Handheld Sync Installer in the Additional Tools installer folder in your Microsoft Office 2004 folder (this should work even with the 30 day demo). Again, you may need Palm Desktop for this or it may work fine with Missing Sync, I have no idea the Sync service would be needed or not. "Go to Applications/Microsoft Office 2004/Additional Tools and run the Handheld Sync Installer. Before you hotsync for the 1st time you may want to open up the Conduit Settings in Hotsync manager and change the defaults (I set all of them to Handheld overwrites PC just for the first sync)." I saw this on some forum and it looks like you may need Palm desktop for this. Than once you get your data from the Treo into Entourage, go into Preferences in Entourage and under Sync Services, turn on Address Book and iCal and Notes syncing. This should bring your bata back into Address book and iCal. hope some of it works tom From Stan.Warford at pepperdine.edu Tue Jun 20 16:03:45 2006 From: Stan.Warford at pepperdine.edu (Stan Warford) Date: Tue Jun 20 16:15:49 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: missing-sync-palmos-talk Digest, Vol 37, Issue 19 In-Reply-To: <32F553DD-2023-4C88-89AB-327B83CA8544@spamcop.net> References: <200606201900.k5KJ0GE3027798@sparrow.markspace.com> <32F553DD-2023-4C88-89AB-327B83CA8544@spamcop.net> Message-ID: Thanks Tom! Here is what happened: I looked at BackupBuddy and SyncBuddy and decided to install a trial version of SyncBuddy, which is a very nice program. You essentially get a window of all the files on your handheld and can copy them to your computer with a simple drag-and-drop. The copy operation does not change any dates (or anything, for that matter) on your handheld, so it is completely invisible to any synchronization operation by any other synchronization program. Then I ran Missing Sync with only the backup conduit as Tom suggested. Then I ran it to synchronize with Address Book and iCal and no data was lost. So, it turns out I did not need to do the SyncBuddy backup after all, but the stress level was definitely lower having done that. Stan On Jun 20, 2006, at 12:44 PM, Thomas Maler wrote: > On 20-Jun-06, at 3:00 PM, missing-sync-palmos-talk- > request@lists.markspace.com wrote: > >> Message: 1 >> Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 14:17:40 -0700 >> From: Stan Warford >> Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Downloading FROM Treo to >> iCal/Address Book >> To: "The Missing Sync ((Mac/Palm OS)) Discussion List" >> >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; >> format=flowed >> >> Hello all, >> >> My Mac was stolen from my office complete with iCal and Address Book >> data and backup data. I had done a synch with my Treo 600, so all the >> data is on my handheld. Now I want to download the data on my Treo >> 600 to a newly authorized computer and make sure that the data will >> not be wiped out the first time I synch it up. I am running Mac OS X >> 10.4.6 (Tiger) and Missing Synch 5.1.0. >> >> I am concerned because the installation instructions say that Missing >> Synch will get its initial data from the computer, and cannot get it >> from the handheld. From this paragraph from the manual: >> >> =================== >> The Mark/Space Contacts conduit allows you to either synchronize your >> Mac and your Palm device or to overwrite the data on your Palm with >> that from your Mac. Sync Services conduits do not presently have the >> option to have device data overwrite the Mac?s. You can choose to >> sync all or selected Address Book groups. >> =================== >> >> I cannot tell what will happen. Does "... conduits do not presently >> have the option to have device data overwrite the Mac?s." mean that I >> cannot transfer my handheld data to my Mac? Or, does "... allows you >> to either synchronize your Mac and your Palm device or to overwrite >> the data on your Palm with that from your Mac." mean that if I choose >> to synchronize, my data will be transferred from my handheld to my >> Mac? > > I think so, but I am not 100% sure, it is SUPPOSED to mingle - > merge - data from both, so if there is 0 data on the mac and lots > of data on the Treo, it should merge - ie. bring the treo data to > the mac. > >> >> So, my question is, Can I simply install Missing Synch, then synch my >> handheld without losing my data? > > it SHOULD work, > >> >> Or, must I find some way to download my handheld data and get it into >> iCal and Address Book before I set up Missing Synch? > > >> >> I THINK if I install Missing Synch then synchronize I will be safe, >> but obviously I want to be 100% sure of this before I do anything, >> because I do NOT want to reconstruct my calendar and address book >> manually. > > I would definitely run the Backup conduit first, so that even if > the Treo accidentally gets wiped during the Sync, you can restore > it for the backup, > > There is also BackupBuddy and SyncBuddy to help with this, but they > may not be necessary. The Backup conduit from Missing Sync should > do it. > > I remember that in the old Palm Desktop, it was possible to replace > the Computer data with that from the pda, so it may be possible to > install Palm desktop first and try to get it to transfer the data > to the Mac and than install and run Missing Sync. I have no idea > if this is a good suggestion or not. > > One more idea: If I remember correctly, it is possible to sync > Entourage in Microsoft Office 2004, you have to first install the > conduit, there is Handheld Sync Installer in the Additional Tools > installer folder in your Microsoft Office 2004 folder (this should > work even with the 30 day demo). Again, you may need Palm Desktop > for this or it may work fine with Missing Sync, I have no idea the > Sync service would be needed or not. > > "Go to Applications/Microsoft Office 2004/Additional Tools and run > the Handheld Sync Installer. > > Before you hotsync for the 1st time you may want to open up the > Conduit Settings in Hotsync manager and change the defaults (I set > all of them to Handheld overwrites PC just for the first sync)." > > I saw this on some forum and it looks like you may need Palm > desktop for this. > > Than once you get your data from the Treo into Entourage, go into > Preferences in Entourage and under Sync Services, turn on Address > Book and iCal and Notes syncing. This should bring your bata back > into Address book and iCal. > > > hope some of it works > tom > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your > subscribed email address to: > missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com From ijak at mac.com Wed Jun 21 11:06:13 2006 From: ijak at mac.com (Jack Foster Mancilla) Date: Wed Jun 21 11:06:16 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] A hangup Message-ID: <544E95C5-CEDB-426C-9744-965236EAF143@mac.com> . I have a problem syncing my Treo 700P to my Mac with the newest MissingSync for Palm. I think the problem is a bad preferences file, but I do not know what to do about it. The Treo comes to a full stop while saying "Synchronizing Saved Preferences" Where would I start to get it back to normal? Jack From amahler at sbc.edu Wed Jun 21 14:53:44 2006 From: amahler at sbc.edu (Aaron Mahler) Date: Wed Jun 21 14:53:48 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Erratic iCal & Treo 650 Sync Accuracy Message-ID: <7C0382E5-0935-4226-A17E-04C8EF410742@sbc.edu> Hello! I purchased a license for the Missing Sync a few days ago based on the plethora of good reviews and a suggestion from a friend who is a satisfied user. I wanted to ditch the Palm hotsyncing tools and use of Apple's Sync Services, especially since I just upgraded to a MacBook Pro 17" and am wanting Universal apps wherever possible. I use DateBk 5 from Pimlico Software on my Treo. It sits on top of the existing Palm calendar and task databases, so it doesn't require any special conduits and I've never had issues in the past. At first I thought everything was working perfectly, certainly far better than my prior Palm Desktop experiences (over the course of three generations of the Treos these last few years). Last night I created a To-Do item in iCal and set an alarm on it (Message with Sound, 15 minutes before on Same Day). I synced right afterward but noticed the To-Do on my Treo lacked the alarm, so I wasn't going to get an alert. To make a long story short, I've not yet been able to get a To-Do item I make in iCal with an alarm to sync and include the alarm parameters on the Treo. To-Do items I make on the Treo with alarms also do not appear in iCal with alarm parameters. Calendar events I make in iCal do sync with the alarms for the most part. But, unfortunately, as I experimented I started running into even more bits of strangeness. I found that some events I made in iCal simply did not appear on my Treo after syncing. Doing a second sync, however, would usually make them appear. Some events I made in iCal appeared on the Treo as "New Item" which is iCal's default text until you change it. It was fully defined in iCal with a title, but synced as New Item. Another clue I've gotten along the way is what appears to be a sort of time delay between use of iCal and syncing affecting with the accuracy. When you're making tests and immediately syncing, you tend to do it at such a pace that there is only a few seconds between quitting iCal and telling your Treo to sync. In many of those cases I had missing calendar items or incomplete items on my Treo after the sync. A second sync, however, would usually cause them to appear like they should have the first time. Similar to this, some items I made on the Treo would not appear in iCal after syncing and then immediately opening iCal. Closing iCal, however, and re-opening it again a moment later would make them appear (more or less complete, I think). I've always quit iCal before doing a sync (just in case that was a factor). During all this testing I've done things like delete my task and calendar databases on the Palm and then doing a sync to force iCal to provide all the data "fresh" to the Treo (hoping to eliminate database errors on the Treo side). That didn't fix anything. After that, I went through the steps in the knowledgebase to simulate the equivalent of a conduit's Handheld Overwrites Desktop (clearing iCal, backing up the cleared calendar, restoring the calendar and option- clicking the conduit to set an advanced option before the sync). iCal came up blank after the sync, but closing and re-opening it caused all the data to appear. Since that time, it appears that calendar items are a bit more reliable in terms of syncing... but it doesn't seem to be 100% yet. However, I still cannot get a To-Do item in iCal to sync WITH its alarm settings. I did notice, however, that a To-Do I just made on the Treo with an alarm appeared in iCal without the alarm settings - but the note field had this: [---11:30 s000.... ] which happens to be the 11:30 AM alarm setting on the To-Do item on the Treo. Does anyone have any suggestions as to what might be happening? Has anyone experienced anything similar? I think I've summarized all of my testing which has been pretty consistent and methodical (problem solving is a big part of my job, so I tend to approach things fairly scientifically in this regard). If I've missed something, let me know. My system is a MacBook Pro with OS X 10.4.6, Missing Sync 5.1.0 (131), and Treo 650 with DateBk 5.4a, S6. Thanks! - Aaron -- halfpress: http://www.halfpress.com Documenting Democracy: http://www.docdem.org Aaron's MAME Boxes - http://www.mameblog.com PGP Public Key - http://sparhawk.sbc.edu/amahler.pgp From danielg at bu.edu Wed Jun 21 21:59:14 2006 From: danielg at bu.edu (Daniel Goldenholz) Date: Wed Jun 21 21:59:28 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Failed Markspace Events In-Reply-To: <7C0382E5-0935-4226-A17E-04C8EF410742@sbc.edu> References: <7C0382E5-0935-4226-A17E-04C8EF410742@sbc.edu> Message-ID: <449A23A2.5050107@bu.edu> Hi I am proud to say that Missing Sync has been working great for quite a while. But now, suddenly, it has become unhappy. Here is my sync log: Sync starting at 6/22/06 12:53 AM (00:53:27) on Network from: 192.168.0.103 (5.1.0) Using profile named: Event conduit was unable to open the Event database on the handheld. Failed Mark/Space Events (0x4004) Sync completed successfully at 6/22/06 12:53 AM (00:53:47) I tried this 4 times. Same result each time. What should I do? Mac OS X 10.4.6. Missing Sync for Palm 5.1.0 Palm TX. D From phillip at madgestevens.net Wed Jun 21 23:56:07 2006 From: phillip at madgestevens.net (Phillip Deackes) Date: Wed Jun 21 23:56:14 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] AvantGo Upgrade Message-ID: I am using the latest MissingSync and my Sync History comes up with the following: Please upgrade your AvantGo software by visiting http://avantgo.com What software is it referring to? I don't want to do anything to my Treo which will stop AvantGo working with MissingSync - I did this once before on a Windows Mobile PDA and from then on AvantGo syncing would only work in online mode from the PDA itself. Any advice welcome! Thanks. --? Phillip Deackes From paul+markspace at bur.st Thu Jun 22 03:37:28 2006 From: paul+markspace at bur.st (Paul Day) Date: Thu Jun 22 03:37:30 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Bug in "Mark/Space Folder Sync"? Message-ID: The new MS Folder Sync conduit seems to do no checking (compare dates, file size, md5sum etc) of the destination file when copying data over. ie, it copies every file over to the Palm regardless of whether or not it's changed. When you've got quite a few folders in the Folder Sync configuration, this means a HotSync takes a long time as it painstakingly copies every file over each time, even if none of the files have actually changed. Is this a bug or just a lacking feature? :) PD -- Paul Day From bcriscuolo at markspace.com Thu Jun 22 04:10:11 2006 From: bcriscuolo at markspace.com (Brian M. Criscuolo) Date: Thu Jun 22 04:10:11 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Erratic iCal & Treo 650 Sync Accuracy In-Reply-To: <7C0382E5-0935-4226-A17E-04C8EF410742@sbc.edu> References: <7C0382E5-0935-4226-A17E-04C8EF410742@sbc.edu> Message-ID: Aaron, On Jun 21, 2006, at 5:53 PM, Aaron Mahler wrote: > > Hello! > > I purchased a license for the Missing Sync a few days ago based > on the plethora of good reviews and a suggestion from a friend who > is a satisfied user. I wanted to ditch the Palm hotsyncing tools > and use of Apple's Sync Services, especially since I just upgraded > to a MacBook Pro 17" and am wanting Universal apps wherever possible. > > I use DateBk 5 from Pimlico Software on my Treo. It sits on top > of the existing Palm calendar and task databases, so it doesn't > require any special conduits and I've never had issues in the past. > > At first I thought everything was working perfectly, certainly > far better than my prior Palm Desktop experiences (over the course > of three generations of the Treos these last few years). > > Last night I created a To-Do item in iCal and set an alarm on it > (Message with Sound, 15 minutes before on Same Day). I synced right > afterward but noticed the To-Do on my Treo lacked the alarm, so I > wasn't going to get an alert. > Are you looking at the To-Do in DateBk 5? Try viewing it in Palm's Tasks application. We do support the alarms. > To make a long story short, I've not yet been able to get a To-Do > item I make in iCal with an alarm to sync and include the alarm > parameters on the Treo. To-Do items I make on the Treo with alarms > also do not appear in iCal with alarm parameters. > > Calendar events I make in iCal do sync with the alarms for the > most part. But, unfortunately, as I experimented I started running > into even more bits of strangeness. I found that some events I made > in iCal simply did not appear on my Treo after syncing. Doing a > second sync, however, would usually make them appear. Some events I > made in iCal appeared on the Treo as "New Item" which is iCal's > default text until you change it. It was fully defined in iCal with > a title, but synced as New Item. > The reason that they don't appear on the first sync is that it may take a while for iCal to sync the data to Sync Service's database. This generally only happens when the app (iCal) is switched to the background, or at some other unknown time. Also, there may be a slight delay with the sync completing. When you get the default title, it is often because some of the other event data has synchronized but the entire record hasn't. > Another clue I've gotten along the way is what appears to be a > sort of time delay between use of iCal and syncing affecting with > the accuracy. When you're making tests and immediately syncing, you > tend to do it at such a pace that there is only a few seconds > between quitting iCal and telling your Treo to sync. In many of > those cases I had missing calendar items or incomplete items on my > Treo after the sync. A second sync, however, would usually cause > them to appear like they should have the first time. > Yes, that's the delay in iCal synchronizing. > Similar to this, some items I made on the Treo would not appear > in iCal after syncing and then immediately opening iCal. Closing > iCal, however, and re-opening it again a moment later would make > them appear (more or less complete, I think). I've always quit iCal > before doing a sync (just in case that was a factor). > This forces the sync one last time. > During all this testing I've done things like delete my task and > calendar databases on the Palm and then doing a sync to force iCal > to provide all the data "fresh" to the Treo (hoping to eliminate > database errors on the Treo side). That didn't fix anything. After > that, I went through the steps in the knowledgebase to simulate the > equivalent of a conduit's Handheld Overwrites Desktop (clearing > iCal, backing up the cleared calendar, restoring the calendar and > option-clicking the conduit to set an advanced option before the > sync). iCal came up blank after the sync, but closing and re- > opening it caused all the data to appear. > > Since that time, it appears that calendar items are a bit more > reliable in terms of syncing... but it doesn't seem to be 100% yet. > > However, I still cannot get a To-Do item in iCal to sync WITH its > alarm settings. > > I did notice, however, that a To-Do I just made on the Treo with > an alarm appeared in iCal without the alarm settings - but the note > field had this: > > [---11:30 s000.... ] > Yes, you're definitely using DateBk...I think. We don't put anything in the notes. b > which happens to be the 11:30 AM alarm setting on the To-Do item > on the Treo. > > Does anyone have any suggestions as to what might be happening? > Has anyone experienced anything similar? > > I think I've summarized all of my testing which has been pretty > consistent and methodical (problem solving is a big part of my job, > so I tend to approach things fairly scientifically in this regard). > If I've missed something, let me know. > > My system is a MacBook Pro with OS X 10.4.6, Missing Sync 5.1.0 > (131), and Treo 650 with DateBk 5.4a, S6. > > > Thanks! > - Aaron > > > -- > halfpress: http://www.halfpress.com > Documenting Democracy: http://www.docdem.org > Aaron's MAME Boxes - http://www.mameblog.com > PGP Public Key - http://sparhawk.sbc.edu/amahler.pgp > > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your > subscribed email address to: > missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com ******************** Brian M. Criscuolo Senior Software Engineer Mark/Space, Inc. bcriscuolo@markspace.com From amahler at sbc.edu Thu Jun 22 06:01:17 2006 From: amahler at sbc.edu (Aaron Mahler) Date: Thu Jun 22 06:01:15 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Erratic iCal & Treo 650 Sync Accuracy In-Reply-To: References: <7C0382E5-0935-4226-A17E-04C8EF410742@sbc.edu> Message-ID: <01C82AFA-E845-4858-94B4-4D5ACF7AD4DA@sbc.edu> Sorry - I forgot the screenshot I mentioned in my previous reply: What I have noticed is that ToDo items I create on the Treo that end up in iCal don't have the alarm parameters set... but their Note field has an entry that appears to be a DateBk5 means of dealing with ToDo alarms. I've attached a screenshot so you can see how it appears in iCal... maybe this will give clues on whether it's possible / feasible to accommodate this. -------------- next part -------------- Thanks! - Aaron -- halfpress: http://www.halfpress.com Documenting Democracy: http://www.docdem.org Aaron's MAME Boxes - http://www.mameblog.com PGP Public Key - http://sparhawk.sbc.edu/amahler.pgp From amahler at sbc.edu Thu Jun 22 06:03:15 2006 From: amahler at sbc.edu (Aaron Mahler) Date: Thu Jun 22 06:03:14 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Erratic iCal & Treo 650 Sync Accuracy In-Reply-To: <01C82AFA-E845-4858-94B4-4D5ACF7AD4DA@sbc.edu> References: <7C0382E5-0935-4226-A17E-04C8EF410742@sbc.edu> <01C82AFA-E845-4858-94B4-4D5ACF7AD4DA@sbc.edu> Message-ID: <41EED36E-0D72-4E2D-88FC-0C24F597C0C4@sbc.edu> Well, crud... that wasn't intended for the mailing list... replied to the wrong person along the way. Sorry, folks! - Aaron On Jun 22, 2006, at 9:01 AM, Aaron Mahler wrote: > > > Sorry - I forgot the screenshot I mentioned in my previous reply: > > > What I have noticed is that ToDo items I create on the Treo that > end up in iCal don't have the alarm parameters set... but their > Note field has an entry that appears to be a DateBk5 means of > dealing with ToDo alarms. I've attached a screenshot so you can see > how it appears in iCal... maybe this will give clues on whether > it's possible / feasible to accommodate this. > > > > Thanks! > - Aaron > > > -- > halfpress: http://www.halfpress.com > Documenting Democracy: http://www.docdem.org > Aaron's MAME Boxes - http://www.mameblog.com > PGP Public Key - http://sparhawk.sbc.edu/amahler.pgp > > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your > subscribed email address to: > missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com -- halfpress: http://www.halfpress.com Documenting Democracy: http://www.docdem.org Aaron's MAME Boxes - http://www.mameblog.com PGP Public Key - http://sparhawk.sbc.edu/amahler.pgp From bcriscuolo at markspace.com Thu Jun 22 06:16:22 2006 From: bcriscuolo at markspace.com (Brian M. Criscuolo) Date: Thu Jun 22 06:16:26 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Erratic iCal & Treo 650 Sync Accuracy In-Reply-To: <01C82AFA-E845-4858-94B4-4D5ACF7AD4DA@sbc.edu> References: <7C0382E5-0935-4226-A17E-04C8EF410742@sbc.edu> <01C82AFA-E845-4858-94B4-4D5ACF7AD4DA@sbc.edu> Message-ID: Aaron, We're not going to deal with the DateBk5 method of storing additional information in the notes field of a record - we read/write the Palm Task database record format. DateBk5 adds a bunch of data into the note (not visible as anything useful) that describes the extended information. It is unlikely that we'll be supporting this. b On Jun 22, 2006, at 9:01 AM, Aaron Mahler wrote: > > > Sorry - I forgot the screenshot I mentioned in my previous reply: > > > What I have noticed is that ToDo items I create on the Treo that > end up in iCal don't have the alarm parameters set... but their > Note field has an entry that appears to be a DateBk5 means of > dealing with ToDo alarms. I've attached a screenshot so you can see > how it appears in iCal... maybe this will give clues on whether > it's possible / feasible to accommodate this. > > > > Thanks! > - Aaron > > > -- > halfpress: http://www.halfpress.com > Documenting Democracy: http://www.docdem.org > Aaron's MAME Boxes - http://www.mameblog.com > PGP Public Key - http://sparhawk.sbc.edu/amahler.pgp > > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your > subscribed email address to: > missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com ******************** Brian M. Criscuolo Senior Software Engineer Mark/Space, Inc. bcriscuolo@markspace.com From sgruby at markspace.com Thu Jun 22 06:31:59 2006 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Thu Jun 22 06:32:01 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Bug in "Mark/Space Folder Sync"? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9DB298A3-71A9-4622-B5F1-665951855415@markspace.com> On Jun 22, 2006, at 3:37 AM, Paul Day wrote: > The new MS Folder Sync conduit seems to do no checking (compare > dates, file size, md5sum etc) of the destination file when copying > data over. ie, it copies every file over to the Palm regardless of > whether or not it's changed. > > When you've got quite a few folders in the Folder Sync > configuration, this means a HotSync takes a long time as it > painstakingly copies every file over each time, even if none of the > files have actually changed. > > Is this a bug or just a lacking feature? :) > Folder Sync does compare file dates when copying files. I'd suggest contacting support to see if they can help you with your issue. -- Scott Gruby Mark/Space, Inc. Please visit for assistance with Mark/Space products. From bma1 at mac.com Thu Jun 22 10:11:44 2006 From: bma1 at mac.com (Bob Arnold) Date: Thu Jun 22 10:11:43 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] (no subject) Message-ID: <944F2799-847C-4EAA-B78C-ABE614ACB05E@mac.com> Folks: I have a different problem but again about accuracy in syncing. when I set up a custom repeat in ical things sycn well Then when I change one item (eg change a meeting from the 3rd Thursday to the 4rth Thursday or the time on the same day), this often does not sync If I change the time of the meeting by a minute or two or put in a new note, then it syncs. Why??? bob Bob Arnold rabob@pitt.edu *Institute for Doctor-Patient Communication Section of Palliative Care and Medical Ethics Intstitute to Enhance palliative Care http://www.upmc.edu/palliativecare For oncology fellows --> http://www.oncotalk.info American Academy on Communication in Healthcare (AACH) (Formerly the American Academy on Physician and Patient) Better Communication. Better Relationships. 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If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail and delete the original e- mail and attached document(s).? From amahler at sbc.edu Thu Jun 22 11:17:37 2006 From: amahler at sbc.edu (Aaron Mahler) Date: Thu Jun 22 11:17:36 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Erratic iCal & Treo 650 Sync Accuracy In-Reply-To: <7C0382E5-0935-4226-A17E-04C8EF410742@sbc.edu> References: <7C0382E5-0935-4226-A17E-04C8EF410742@sbc.edu> Message-ID: <5A040EAD-F252-4733-A5BC-B9AE4AD951EC@sbc.edu> Well, after accidentally sending an out of context reply from a partially related support discussion to the list, I should probably try to wrap up my original thread with some real information. The issue I posted about initially was ToDo alarms in iCal not ending up on my Treo and vice-versa. I use DateBk5 (http:// www.pimlicosoftware.com) which -greatly- enhances the traditional calendar and task apps on a Palm device while, more or less, retaining full compatibility with the databases. That keeps apps that sync from usually having any compatibility issues. As it turns out, though, alarms on ToDo items are a more recent development within Palm apps and DateBk5 (in its own way) had been providing the functionality since long before things like the Treo 650 were doing it natively. I've talked to the folks at Mark/Space as well as the author at Pimlico and it all makes sense now. DateBk5 needs to maintain the functionality it has always had across the whole range of Palm products. They are aware of the fact that newer devices can natively do this, but there is no real room left in the 64K space that apps have to reside in on the architecture to implement the exceptions. Once a method they are working on for getting around that is functional, they'll have the headroom needed to write work such intelligent exceptions in the application and the problem I'm describing will go away. In addition to this, apparently the methods used inside the Palm OS for handling ToDo alarms are more than a big kludgy, so it's not a quick fix in any case. From Pimlico's very informative email to me today: "Correct - there is a technical reason why this has not been done yet - any such code would have to reside in the first 64k segment which is completely, COMPLETELY full - only 100 bytes left at present - not enough to support the thousand+ lines of code needed. The problem is that DateBk has to support the existing alarm format which works with the standard Palm OS ToDo database (which does not support alarms) so that all users with standard Palm OS devices have access to ToDo alarms." "IN any event, I'm well aware of this and am working now on some type of overlay structure to get around the 64k limit. When that is done and code space becomes available, it will be fairly trivial to address this issue. DateBk DOES already use the proprietary Calendar/ Contacts/Memos databases, it's just the Tasks database which presents the problem." So... for the meantime, I'll continue to enjoy the DateBk5 enhancements on my Treo 650 and the super nice functionality