From jerrywilsons at mac.com Sat Jul 1 20:28:13 2006 From: jerrywilsons at mac.com (Jerry Wilson) Date: Sat Jul 1 20:28:19 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Video's from Treo 650 to computer ? Message-ID: <47A48133-9E54-4F34-BBC8-1A636BE6AD05@mac.com> Hi All: Any one done this yet? I see photos are a possibility, what about video's shot with the Treo? jerryw G4-1.2 GHz/1 GB SDRAM/OSX 10.4.4/Safari 2.0.3/mail.app 2.0.5/ iTunes 6.0.2/iPhoto 5.0.4/LaCie CD-R/Palm DT 4.1USB/Studio Display 21"/View Sonic PF790/Belkin 5 Port Network Switch/Belkin UPS F6C100-UNV/Micro Connectors Powered USB Hub From michael.murray at adelaide.edu.au Sun Jul 2 02:04:53 2006 From: michael.murray at adelaide.edu.au (Michael Murray) Date: Sun Jul 2 02:04:57 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] conflict Message-ID: When I am syncing and it says there is a conflict between iCal and Missing/Sync what does that mean ? I am not sure which side to choose. Thanks - Michael -- .......................................................... Professor Michael Murray Head, School of Mathematical Sciences Professor of Pure Mathematics School of Mathematical Sciences Fax: 61+ 8 8303 3696 University of Adelaide Phone: 61+ 8 8303 4174 Australia 5005 Skype name: michaelkmurray Email: mmurray@maths.adelaide.edu.au Web: http://www.maths.adelaide.edu.au/~mmurray CRICOS Provider Number 00123M This email message is intended only for the addressee(s) and contains information that may be confidential and/or copyright. If you are not the intended recipient please notify the sender by reply email and immediately delete this email. Use, disclosure or reproduction of this email by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) is strictly prohibited. No representation is made that this email or any attachments are free of viruses. Virus scanning is recommended and is the responsibility of the recipient. .......................................................... From davidturley at pobox.com Sun Jul 2 04:31:53 2006 From: davidturley at pobox.com (David Turley) Date: Sun Jul 2 04:31:54 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Video's from Treo 650 to computer ? In-Reply-To: <47A48133-9E54-4F34-BBC8-1A636BE6AD05@mac.com> References: <47A48133-9E54-4F34-BBC8-1A636BE6AD05@mac.com> Message-ID: <7A3DF8AC-899F-4B27-A77A-679F4C06AE3C@pobox.com> On Jul 1, 2006, at 11:28 PM, Jerry Wilson wrote: > > > Any one done this yet? I see photos are a possibility, what about > video's shot with the Treo? The movies that I've shot with my Treo do get synced into iPhoto along with photo when I use the iPhoto conduit. From Patricia at PatriciaWarwick.com Sun Jul 2 04:35:42 2006 From: Patricia at PatriciaWarwick.com (Patricia Warwick) Date: Sun Jul 2 04:35:42 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] conflict In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1FFE9776-DCED-4404-AE4E-B718F9A81448@PatriciaWarwick.com> Usually it means that the same event has been changed on both the Palm and iCal. So Missing Sync cannot not know which version to use. That is entirely your decision ... which one do you want to keep on both. So you can look at the entries to see which one you want. Now that being said, I have experienced situations where I get a conflict message and I cannot see any difference between the records so I usually decide that SyncServices is having a bad day and arbitrarily choose one ... usually iCal. On 2-Jul-06, at 5:04 AM, Michael Murray wrote: > When I am syncing and it says there is a conflict between iCal and > Missing/Sync what does that mean ? I am not sure which side to > choose. From michael.murray at adelaide.edu.au Sun Jul 2 04:48:37 2006 From: michael.murray at adelaide.edu.au (Michael Murray) Date: Sun Jul 2 04:48:40 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] conflict In-Reply-To: <1FFE9776-DCED-4404-AE4E-B718F9A81448@PatriciaWarwick.com> References: <1FFE9776-DCED-4404-AE4E-B718F9A81448@PatriciaWarwick.com> Message-ID: >Usually it means that the same event has been changed on both the >Palm and iCal. So Missing Sync cannot not know which version to use. >That is entirely your decision ... which one do you want to keep on >both. So you can look at the entries to see which one you want. Now >that being said, I have experienced situations where I get a >conflict message and I cannot see any difference between the records >so I usually decide that SyncServices is having a bad day and >arbitrarily choose one ... usually iCal. Dear Patricia I think this must have been a SyncServices bad day because I don't think I changed those entries. Thanks - Michael -- .......................................................... Professor Michael Murray Head, School of Mathematical Sciences Professor of Pure Mathematics School of Mathematical Sciences Fax: 61+ 8 8303 3696 University of Adelaide Phone: 61+ 8 8303 4174 Australia 5005 Skype name: michaelkmurray Email: mmurray@maths.adelaide.edu.au Web: http://www.maths.adelaide.edu.au/~mmurray CRICOS Provider Number 00123M This email message is intended only for the addressee(s) and contains information that may be confidential and/or copyright. If you are not the intended recipient please notify the sender by reply email and immediately delete this email. Use, disclosure or reproduction of this email by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) is strictly prohibited. No representation is made that this email or any attachments are free of viruses. Virus scanning is recommended and is the responsibility of the recipient. .......................................................... From michael.murray at adelaide.edu.au Sun Jul 2 07:25:02 2006 From: michael.murray at adelaide.edu.au (Michael Murray) Date: Sun Jul 2 07:25:06 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] BackupBuddy problem Message-ID: Hi I am having problems with the BackupBuddy conduit from BlueNomad. It seems to be choking on DocumentsToGo PDFToGo. The log file for a backup starting with deleting /Users/mmurray/Documents/Palm/Users/mmurray/Backups and /Users/mmurray/Documents/Palm/Users/mmurray/BackupBuddy is below. I have deleted a few bits out of the middle of it to save space. I have tried deleting and reinstalling PDFToGo. I am not sure if I report this to: MarkSpace or BlueNomad or DataViz ??? Any ideas on a fix or whose bug this is ? Thanks - Michael -------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Sync starting at 2/7/06 11:44 PM (23:44:45) on USB (5.1.0) Backing up AGBkmkMQ Backing up AGCapsMQ Backing up AGChanMQ Backing up AGDocsMQ Backing up AGFormMQ Backing up AGHistory Backing up AGMUrlMQ Backing up AGNewsMQ [Lots of entries deleted] Backing up Nokia8310 Backing up Nokia8810 Backing up Nokia8850 Backing up Nokia8890 BackupBuddy failed to backup DB PDFToGo [C='PDF2' T='appl'] due to: Failed to retrieve database from handheld BackupBuddy failed to backup DB PMHDB [C='PMHa' T='PMHa'] due to: Failed to retrieve database from handheld BackupBuddy failed to backup DB PMNDB [C='PMNe' T='PMNe'] due to: Failed to retrieve database from handheld BackupBuddy failed to backup DB PP_P2P [C='PP2P' T='appl'] due to: Failed to retrieve database from handheld BackupBuddy failed to backup DB PPur_Key_48 [C='BVFS' T='PPur'] due to: Failed to retrieve database from handheld BackupBuddy failed to backup DB PalmPDF [C='PPDF' T='appl'] due to: Failed to retrieve database from handheld BackupBuddy failed to backup DB PalmVMFontLibrary [C='MA10' T='appl'] due to: Failed to retrieve database from handheld [Lots of entries deleted] BackupBuddy failed to backup DB vlicperm [C='CVPN' T='data'] due to: Failed to retrieve database from handheld BackupBuddy failed to backup DB vpndata [C='CVPN' T='data'] due to: Failed to retrieve database from handheld BackupBuddy failed to backup DB vpolimp [C='CVPN' T='data'] due to: Failed to retrieve database from handheld BackupBuddy failed to backup DB vsetting [C='CVPN' T='data'] due to: Failed to retrieve database from handheld BackupBuddy failed to back up PDFToGo from PDF2 [C='appl' T='/Users/mmurray/Documents/Palm/Users/mmurray/Backups/PDFToGo_PDF2_2F.prc'] due to: FileStore: error opening file for reading: /Users/mmurray/Documents/Palm/Users/mmurray/Backups/PDFToGo_PDF2_2F.prc BackupBuddy failed to back up PMHDB from PMHa [C='PMHa' T='/Users/mmurray/Documents/Palm/Users/mmurray/Backups/PMHDB_PMHa_1F.pdb'] due to: FileStore: error opening file for reading: /Users/mmurray/Documents/Palm/Users/mmurray/Backups/PMHDB_PMHa_1F.pdb BackupBuddy failed to back up PMNDB from PMNe [C='PMNe' T='/Users/mmurray/Documents/Palm/Users/mmurray/Backups/PMNDB_PMNe_1F.pdb'] due to: FileStore: error opening file for reading: /Users/mmurray/Documents/Palm/Users/mmurray/Backups/PMNDB_PMNe_1F.pdb BackupBuddy failed to back up PP_P2P from PP2P [C='appl' T='/Users/mmurray/Documents/Palm/Users/mmurray/Backups/PP_P2P_PP2P_2B.prc'] due to: FileStore: error opening file for reading: /Users/mmurray/Documents/Palm/Users/mmurray/Backups/PP_P2P_PP2P_2B.prc [Lots of entries deleted] BackupBuddy failed to back up vlicperm from CVPN [C='data' T='/Users/mmurray/Documents/Palm/Users/mmurray/Backups/vlicperm_CVPN_0.pdb'] due to: FileStore: error opening file for reading: /Users/mmurray/Documents/Palm/Users/mmurray/Backups/vlicperm_CVPN_0.pdb BackupBuddy failed to back up vpndata from CVPN [C='data' T='/Users/mmurray/Documents/Palm/Users/mmurray/Backups/vpndata_CVPN_0.pdb'] due to: FileStore: error opening file for reading: /Users/mmurray/Documents/Palm/Users/mmurray/Backups/vpndata_CVPN_0.pdb BackupBuddy failed to back up vpolimp from CVPN [C='data' T='/Users/mmurray/Documents/Palm/Users/mmurray/Backups/vpolimp_CVPN_0.pdb'] due to: FileStore: error opening file for reading: /Users/mmurray/Documents/Palm/Users/mmurray/Backups/vpolimp_CVPN_0.pdb BackupBuddy failed to back up vsetting from CVPN [C='data' T='/Users/mmurray/Documents/Palm/Users/mmurray/Backups/vsetting_CVPN_0.pdb'] due to: FileStore: error opening file for reading: /Users/mmurray/Documents/Palm/Users/mmurray/Backups/vsetting_CVPN_0.pdb Send all to handheld got error: 0000400a BackupBuddy failed memory card (VFS) backup due to: Failed to install CardSync app for VFS Backup New backup database saved OK BackupBuddy OK BackupBuddy Sync cancelled at 2/7/06 11:50 PM (23:50:47) -- .......................................................... 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From sgruby at markspace.com Sun Jul 2 07:50:27 2006 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Sun Jul 2 07:50:24 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] BackupBuddy problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Jul 2, 2006, at 7:25 AM, Michael Murray wrote: > Hi > > I am having problems with the BackupBuddy conduit from BlueNomad. > It seems to be choking on DocumentsToGo PDFToGo. The log file > for a backup starting with deleting /Users/mmurray/Documents/Palm/ > Users/mmurray/Backups and /Users/mmurray/Documents/Palm/Users/ > mmurray/BackupBuddy is below. I have deleted a few bits out of > the middle of it to save space. > > I have tried deleting and reinstalling PDFToGo. > > I am not sure if I report this to: MarkSpace or BlueNomad or > DataViz ??? > > Any ideas on a fix or whose bug this is ? > > T I would contact BlueNomad as BackupBuddy is having the problem; it just happens that BackupBuddy is having a problem with PDFToGo. -- Scott Gruby Mark/Space, Inc. Please visit for assistance with Mark/Space products. From michael.murray at adelaide.edu.au Sun Jul 2 07:59:38 2006 From: michael.murray at adelaide.edu.au (Michael Murray) Date: Sun Jul 2 07:59:40 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] BackupBuddy problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >On Jul 2, 2006, at 7:25 AM, Michael Murray wrote: > >>Hi >> >>I am having problems with the BackupBuddy conduit from BlueNomad. >>It seems to be choking on DocumentsToGo PDFToGo. The log file >>for a backup starting with deleting >>/Users/mmurray/Documents/Palm/Users/mmurray/Backups and >>/Users/mmurray/Documents/Palm/Users/mmurray/BackupBuddy is below. >>I have deleted a few bits out of the middle of it to save space. >> >>I have tried deleting and reinstalling PDFToGo. >> >>I am not sure if I report this to: MarkSpace or BlueNomad or DataViz ??? >> >>Any ideas on a fix or whose bug this is ? >> >>T > >I would contact BlueNomad as BackupBuddy is having the problem; it >just happens that BackupBuddy is having a problem with PDFToGo. > >-- OK Done Thanks - Michael -- .......................................................... 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From ucgajpd at ucl.ac.uk Mon Jul 3 10:15:52 2006 From: ucgajpd at ucl.ac.uk (Jason Davies) Date: Mon Jul 3 10:15:51 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] dual diaries Message-ID: for various reasons, the most effective thing for me is to run two diaries, Oracle (which I'm forced to use at work) and iCal. This is, of course, a bit of a nightmare. What would be good would be if my Palm could somehow show them both, I think there used to be a way to show two diaries but can't remember. What I've never seen is a way to sync them both. Anyone got any ideas? I use jfile with FMSync so in theory a FM 5 database could do the job (but I don't fancy creating it in the first place!) From mowog at spymac.com Tue Jul 4 00:54:28 2006 From: mowog at spymac.com (Christopher Glick) Date: Tue Jul 4 00:54:36 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Can't sync after 10.4.7 upgrade Message-ID: <20060704165428.422291.5d65e1c8@spymac.com> Since installing 10.4.7 earlier today, but MS didn't work even after two resets. I then uninstalled and reinstalled it, and since done three more resets, but still nothing happens. I'll try a few more restarts, which seemed to solve another poster's similar dilemma, but I am not feeling very optimistic at this point. 1.2 GHz PowerPC G4, 2MB L3 cache, 768MB SDRAM, OS 10.4.7 Palm T|X Will a maintenance update be forthcoming? Chris Glick From mowog at spymac.com Tue Jul 4 01:28:49 2006 From: mowog at spymac.com (Christopher Glick) Date: Tue Jul 4 01:29:00 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Now can sync after 10.4.7 Message-ID: <20060704172849.711434.6b5bf7c4@spymac.com> After a few resets and nothing happening, I checked out the TX's cradle; just out of habit, I shoved the cables in a bit and--they moved a hair. For some reason, the black box where the USB and power cables connect to the silver cradle had slid out a bit, so I just pushed it back in and--voila!--a good sync! Sheesh. Chris From michael.murray at adelaide.edu.au Tue Jul 4 03:23:27 2006 From: michael.murray at adelaide.edu.au (Michael Murray) Date: Tue Jul 4 03:23:46 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] dual diaries In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 6:15 PM +0100 3/7/06, Jason Davies wrote: >for various reasons, the most effective thing for me is to run two >diaries, Oracle (which I'm forced to use at work) and iCal. This is, >of course, a bit of a nightmare. What would be good would be if my >Palm could somehow show them both, I think there used to be a way to >show two diaries but can't remember. What I've never seen is a way >to sync them both. Anyone got any ideas? I use jfile with FMSync so >in theory a FM 5 database could do the job (but I don't fancy >creating it in the first place!) Hi Jason Sorry I can't help but I am wondering how you are syncing Oracle ? We have it as well but only have the Netscape Calendar server so not much seems to work but I am wondering what I will do when we finally get upgraded to the Oracle server. My solution at the moment is I periodically sit down and enter stuff from Oracle Calendar on OS X manually onto my Tungsten T5 -- high tech !! Thanks - Michael -- mmurray@maths.adelaide.edu.au From ucgajpd at ucl.ac.uk Tue Jul 4 03:42:15 2006 From: ucgajpd at ucl.ac.uk (Jason Davies) Date: Tue Jul 4 03:42:11 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] dual diaries In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > >Sorry I can't help but I am wondering how you are syncing Oracle ? We >have it as well but only have the Netscape Calendar server so not much >seems to work but I am wondering what I will do when we finally get >upgraded to the Oracle server. it's a nightmare but the only viable solution is to use SyncML from www.synthesis.ch which syncs directly. Sometimes it seems to get confused about times, usually when we go to BST etc, and you get duplicates an hour later but that seems to have settled down recently. Oracle is the worst software I have ever used, it drives all of us completely nuts. But the SyncML means I can enter stuff mostly through the Palm instead of the awful Oracle interface. Be aware though, that it doesn't handle things like invitations - you have to use Oracle for that. From michael.murray at adelaide.edu.au Tue Jul 4 03:55:40 2006 From: michael.murray at adelaide.edu.au (Michael Murray) Date: Tue Jul 4 03:55:45 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] dual diaries Message-ID: >it's a nightmare but the only viable solution is to use SyncML from >www.synthesis.ch which syncs directly. Sometimes it seems to get >confused about times, usually when we go to BST etc, and you get >duplicates an hour later but that seems to have settled down >recently. > Hi Jason I have a wifi card so I was thinking of doing it via syncML. Have to wait for the Oracle server though! Thanks - Michael -- .......................................................... 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From ucgajpd at ucl.ac.uk Tue Jul 4 04:09:07 2006 From: ucgajpd at ucl.ac.uk (Jason Davies) Date: Tue Jul 4 04:09:08 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] dual diaries In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > >I have a wifi card so I was thinking of doing it via syncML. Have to >wait for the Oracle server though! just keep away from the bundled Palm conduit! that gave me random deletions, hmm, fun. From jon at recordnews.com Tue Jul 4 10:10:37 2006 From: jon at recordnews.com (Jon A. Males) Date: Tue Jul 4 10:11:17 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Entourage, Address book, iCal, .mac and Treo 700P Message-ID: I'm guessing that this has been covered before, but I'm stumped at coming up with an answer. So forgive me if I'm asking something that has already been covered before. After getting a Treo 700P to replace my Treo 600, I installed that latest upgrade from Mark/Space. Now my Treo Contacts and my Entourage calendar are a mess. I'm not really getting the process. Before, I was using the Entourage Handheld Sync conduit and everything seemed to work (well, sort of... The only way I could get it to sync with Entourage was to restart the computer and immediate perform a sync). Now that I've upgraded, I'm trying to use Sync Services. I have upgraded Entourage to include Sync Services. I have it turned on. But, I'm still not getting the process. Here's what I'd like to do: 1. After manually fixing everything in Entourage (my address book and calendar), it now stands to be my most complete and up-to-date information. I would like to completely erase everything in iCal and Address Book and .mac. 2. I would then like to perform a sync with Address Book, iCal and .mac so that my Entourage data replaces everything in iCal, Address Book and .Mac. 3. Then I would like this new data to replace all the data currently on my Treo 700P (and my other computers if that's a possibility). I'm hoping this is possible... I would just like to know what steps to take to make this process happen. I tried deleting everything in Address Book, but I'm not able to get my Entourage data to flow back into it. I tried deleting everything in iCal, but only a few items in my Entourage Calendar appear back in iCal. It seems to be missing a lot of entries in Entourage. I haven't reconnected to .mac because I'm afraid that it will corrupt my Entourage data that I've taken so much time to rebuild. Any hand holding would be greatly appreciated. Al the necessary software components are up-to-date and available on my computer. It's just a matter of getting the operator to figure out how to make it all work. Thanks, Jon Males From jakepog at mymacmail.com Tue Jul 4 15:28:15 2006 From: jakepog at mymacmail.com (Jake) Date: Tue Jul 4 15:28:10 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Failing syncing, even before 10.4.7 upgrade Message-ID: <1152052095.11176.265288383@webmail.messagingengine.com> Recently, MSFP seems to have more and more conduits failing, now half work. It was doing it before the 10.4.7 update too, in fact, I didn't see any difference after the update, compared to before. Any idea what the log is saying?: OK Mark/Space Conduit for AvantGo OK Mark/Space Events (Mark/Space MemoPad) NSRangeException *** -[NSCFArray objectAtIndex:]: index (123) beyond bounds (123) Task conduit was unable to open the Task database on the handheld. Failed Mark/Space Tasks (0x4403) ISyncUnsupportedEntityException [NOTE: this exception originated in the server.] Client com.markspace.missingsync.palmos.contacts_1 did not register to synchronize entity com.apple.contacts.Custom Field SyncClient error. Can't initialize sync session. OK Mark/Space Contacts with 2 message(s) OK Documents To Go OK Install It's the MemoPad which particularly concerns me, as I use it a lot. Regards, Jacob Jake -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Same, same, but different From mike at legalconsult.com.au Wed Jul 5 05:18:01 2006 From: mike at legalconsult.com.au (Michael Knight) Date: Wed Jul 5 05:18:08 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] iCal Events synching with Treo 650 taking a long time and crashing Message-ID: <44ABADF9.40406@legalconsult.com.au> Hi all, I'm trying to synchronise the iCal events calendar on a Macbook Pro with a Treo 650. I've already been able to synchronise memos, contacts and iCal todos (tasks) successfully. I am able to do a one-way transfer events from the Macbook to the Treo without any trouble. However, when I choose to do a two-way synch it will take an excessively long time, with the progress bars not appearing at all (i.e. at 0%). Eventually the Treo will say that the connection has been lost. I then need to Force Quit out of Missing Sync as it's unresponsive. Looking at the process listing while the synch is trying to take place, the Conduit uses up lots of CPU and its memory size (vsize) grows constantly. At one stage it reached over 2GB. The iCal in question has around 3500 entries, but even when I try and synch just one of the small calendars with several entries the same thing happens. Looking at syslog, I get: Jul 5 18:38:19 comp crashdump[546] : Conduit Manager crashed Jul 5 18:38:19 comp crashdump[544] : Conduit Manager crashed Jul 5 18:38:19 comp crashdump[545] : Conduit Manager crashed Jul 5 18:38:23 comp crashdump[545] : crash report written to: /Users/me/Library/Logs/CrashReporter/Conduit Manager.crash.log Jul 5 18:38:23 comp crashdump[546] : crash report written to: /Users/me/Library/Logs/CrashReporter/Conduit Manager.crash.log Jul 5 18:38:23 comp crashdump[544] : crash report written to: /Users/me/Library/Logs/CrashReporter/Conduit Manager.crash.log For some reason, the log file it says it has written to is not there when I look for it. Has anyone experienced anything similar? Are there some things I can try to get to the source of the problem? Thanks for any help! -- Mike From walton at telus.net Wed Jul 5 10:31:16 2006 From: walton at telus.net (Lorne Walton) Date: Wed Jul 5 10:57:46 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Can't sync events [TMS 5.1.0] Message-ID: Not sure if this is exactly the same issue noted by a couple of others in the last few days, but I too have just updated to Mac OS X 10.4.7, and don't seem to be able to synchronize between iCal and Mark/Space Events on my Palm Tungsten C. The error log: Sync starting at 05/07/06 10:25 AM (10:25:07) on USB (5.1.0) ISyncInvalidRecordException you referenced the following records (in a relationship) but did not actually push them: ( "com.markspace.missingsync.palmos.events_3138894493_Ecom.markspace.missingsync.palmos.events_3138894493_10778176_audioalarm_1", "com.markspace.missingsync.palmos.events_3138894493_Ecom.markspace.missingsync.palmos.events_3138894493_10778177_audioalarm_1" ) SyncClient error. Mingling failed. OK Mark/Space Events with 2 message(s) Sync completed successfully at 05/07/06 10:25 AM (10:25:11) -- "Never express yourself more clearly than you are able to think." [Niels Bohr] Lorne Walton, Maple Ridge, BC, Canada From cfs2052 at yahoo.com Wed Jul 5 11:09:27 2006 From: cfs2052 at yahoo.com (John Jacobs) Date: Wed Jul 5 11:09:23 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Says it synced contacts, but it didn't Message-ID: <20060705180927.6181.qmail@web30909.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I had a Contact on my Treo 650 which didn't have an email address. I entered one, then did a full sync. Everything seemed normal, but when I went to send an email to that contact and tried to get her address from Address Book, it wasn't there! So I manually entered her email address in AB and then it appeared in Apple Mail. I looked at the Sync History, and it said that sync went perfectly. I checked the settings in Missing Sync, and they are correct. This isn't a lot of info, but all I have. What gives? --Michael iBook G3 900MHz, 640Mb ram OS X 10.4.6 Missing Sync 5.1.0 All Apple apps at current releases __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From walton at telus.net Wed Jul 5 11:20:38 2006 From: walton at telus.net (Lorne Walton) Date: Wed Jul 5 11:21:14 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Can't sync events [TMS 5.1.0] Message-ID: Cancel that last message, sorry. Despite the error log showing a problem of some obscure nature, and the absence of visible updates to the iCal events screen, after I added a new subscribed library, the missing events showed up! Refresh problem in iCal, perhaps. -- "Never express yourself more clearly than you are able to think." [Niels Bohr] Lorne Walton, Maple Ridge, BC, Canada From vkrejci at mac.com Wed Jul 5 11:50:00 2006 From: vkrejci at mac.com (vkrejci@mac.com) Date: Wed Jul 5 11:50:18 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Can't sync events [TMS 5.1.0] Message-ID: <200607051850.k65IoIg4011068@mac.com> I have noticed recently that iCal had some problems with refreshing after adding or deleting an event. That was with OS X 10.4.6, I have 10.4.7, so far I have not encountered this issue. -----Original Message----- From: Lorne Walton Subj: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Can't sync events [TMS 5.1.0] Date: Wed Jul 5, 2006 13:20 Size: 660 bytes To: Missing Sync List Cancel that last message, sorry. Despite the error log showing a problem of some obscure nature, and the absence of visible updates to the iCal events screen, after I added a new subscribed library, the missing events showed up! Refresh problem in iCal, perhaps. -- "Never express yourself more clearly than you are able to think." [Niels Bohr] Lorne Walton, Maple Ridge, BC, Canada _______________________________________________ missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your subscribed email address to: missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com From vkrejci at mac.com Wed Jul 5 14:32:48 2006 From: vkrejci at mac.com (Vladimir Krejci) Date: Wed Jul 5 14:32:48 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] sync using WiFi (Palm TX and Mac PowerBook) Message-ID: Using WiFi for synchronization appears to be very unpredictable, sometimes it appears to work, sometimes not, for no obvious reason, I have maximum WiFi signal on my PB and 3 of 4 bars on the Palm and otherwise good connection.... suggestions, similar experience? Palm TX; PowerBook G4 15 Inch Alu. AirPort Express. OS X 10.4.7 From ucgajpd at ucl.ac.uk Wed Jul 5 16:21:16 2006 From: ucgajpd at ucl.ac.uk (Jason Davies) Date: Wed Jul 5 16:21:20 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] sync using WiFi (Palm TX and Mac PowerBook) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >Using WiFi for synchronization appears to be very unpredictable, >sometimes it appears to work, sometimes not, for no obvious reason, I >have maximum WiFi signal on my PB and 3 of 4 bars on the Palm and >otherwise good connection.... suggestions, similar experience? I find it very reliable (for the record, so it is possible) but mine connects to a router rather than directly to my iMac. Have you tried creating a network and joining that instead? (it's under the airport menu). What is disastrous is hitting cancel - my Lifedrive never comes out of it so I have to reset it. Don't hit cancel:-) From vkrejci at mac.com Wed Jul 5 18:29:00 2006 From: vkrejci at mac.com (vkrejci@mac.com) Date: Wed Jul 5 18:29:40 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] sync using WiFi (Palm TX and MacPowerBook) Message-ID: <200607060129.k661TUus027867@mac.com> Jason, thanks for the feedback. I use a wireless network with AirPort Express. The palm is connecting without problems to the network and also internet, (in fact, right now I am writing the mail on my palm). I have been trying to make it work for quite some time, and finally, I have succeeded yesterday for the first time (I don't know how I did that because I haven't changed any settings since previous attemps, I just "tried one more time" and bingo, it worked...). Today I have tried to connect the Palm directly to the PowerBook (the PowerBook created the network). The Palm found the PowerBook in the network, displayed the correct IP-addrerss, but failed to start sychronization. I switched the network back to AirPort. Palm connects, finds the PowerBook, dispolays correct IP-address but fails to synchronize... Since then, all attempts were unsuccessful.... -----Original Message----- From: Jason Davies Subj: Re: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] sync using WiFi (Palm TX and MacPowerBook) Date: Wed Jul 5, 2006 18:21 Size: 874 bytes To: "The Missing Sync (Mac/Palm OS) Discussion List" >Using WiFi for synchronization appears to be very unpredictable, >sometimes it appears to work, sometimes not, for no obvious reason, I >have maximum WiFi signal on my PB and 3 of 4 bars on the Palm and >otherwise good connection.... suggestions, similar experience? I find it very reliable (for the record, so it is possible) but mine connects to a router rather than directly to my iMac. Have you tried creating a network and joining that instead? (it's under the airport menu). What is disastrous is hitting cancel - my Lifedrive never comes out of it so I have to reset it. Don't hit cancel:-) _______________________________________________ missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your subscribed email address to: missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com From bma1 at mac.com Thu Jul 6 04:46:25 2006 From: bma1 at mac.com (Bob Arnold) Date: Thu Jul 6 04:46:26 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] a sync related question In-Reply-To: <061320061350.13278.448EC290000BFD8C000033DE2213528573020A990A0C030D@comcast.net> References: <061320061350.13278.448EC290000BFD8C000033DE2213528573020A990A0C030D@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1D799770-79B8-4EF4-8533-74DD36912FC8@mac.com> This is not really a missing sync question but it has to do with sync and .mac and is driving me pretty crazy ...any advice or place to go for help would be really appreciated: f I knew that the modifications were not changing the time of the events and only changing something stupid I would be more comfortable but worry they are changing something important. I am syncing two computers.... my laptop on which I make over 95% of the changes and a desktop computer on which I rarely make changes. They are both set to sync automatically everything. Now for the problem. About once a day or more (typically when I am at work and NO ONE is changing the home desktop, , I get a msync message saying there are 5-3000 calender modifications for my laptop (there are never moore han 1-2 additions or deletions and they typically occur only after I have in fact done something to the desktop). Of course, I have no idea what these are and because I want the laptop computer to be the pristine version I say no. BTW this only happens with calendar, the other stuff never has any problems. This is more likely to occur after my laptop has been asleep for a while. I think it is more likely to occur when I am at work versus when I am at home but not sure. Then I go to the preference pane, in to .mac and reset my sync data having my laptop override .mac....which then overrides my other computer and all is cool for a while....but then a few hours- days this happens again.. Recently I have been getting messages saying that there are inconsistencies in the sync engine and the next sync will take longer. What is going on?? I would really like to be able to have the two computers sync cleanly. f I knew that the modifications were not changing the time of the events and only changing something stupid I would be more comfortable but worry they are changing something important. BTW both are running 10.4.7, one is a G-4 and one is a G-5. Both have the latest version of isync. Bob Arnold rabob@pitt.edu *Institute for Doctor-Patient Communication Section of Palliative Care and Medical Ethics Intstitute to Enhance palliative Care http://www.upmc.edu/palliativecare For oncology fellows --> http://www.oncotalk.info American Academy on Communication in Healthcare (AACH) (Formerly the American Academy on Physician and Patient) Better Communication. Better Relationships. Better Care.sm www.physicianpatient.org w-412-692-4834 FAX - 412-692-4315 beeper-412-647-7243, #2322 "Suffering is not a question which demands an answer, it is not a problem which demands a solution, it is a mystery which demands a presence." Anonymous "Helping, fixing and serving represent three different ways of seeing life. When you help, you see life as weak. When you fix, you see life as broken. When you serve, you see life as whole. Fixing and helping may be the work of the ego, and service the work of the soul". Rachel Naomi Remen ?This e-mail may contain confidential information of the sending organization. Any unauthorized or improper disclosure, copying,distribution, or use of the contents of this e-mail and attached document(s) is prohibited. The information contained in this e-mail and attached document(s) is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail and delete the original e- mail and attached document(s).? Bob Arnold rabob@pitt.edu *Institute for Doctor-Patient Communication Section of Palliative Care and Medical Ethics Intstitute to Enhance palliative Care http://www.upmc.edu/palliativecare For oncology fellows --> http://www.oncotalk.info American Academy on Communication in Healthcare (AACH) (Formerly the American Academy on Physician and Patient) Better Communication. Better Relationships. Better Care.sm www.physicianpatient.org w-412-692-4834 FAX - 412-692-4315 beeper-412-647-7243, #2322 "Suffering is not a question which demands an answer, it is not a problem which demands a solution, it is a mystery which demands a presence." Anonymous "Helping, fixing and serving represent three different ways of seeing life. When you help, you see life as weak. When you fix, you see life as broken. When you serve, you see life as whole. Fixing and helping may be the work of the ego, and service the work of the soul". Rachel Naomi Remen ?This e-mail may contain confidential information of the sending organization. Any unauthorized or improper disclosure, copying,distribution, or use of the contents of this e-mail and attached document(s) is prohibited. The information contained in this e-mail and attached document(s) is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail and delete the original e- mail and attached document(s).? From rbrakes at mac.com Thu Jul 6 05:56:57 2006 From: rbrakes at mac.com (R. Bruce Rakes) Date: Thu Jul 6 05:56:56 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] a sync related question In-Reply-To: <1D799770-79B8-4EF4-8533-74DD36912FC8@mac.com> References: <061320061350.13278.448EC290000BFD8C000033DE2213528573020A990A0C030D@comcast.net> <1D799770-79B8-4EF4-8533-74DD36912FC8@mac.com> Message-ID: <96EFD15B-82F5-447E-855C-610C56C3025B@mac.com> Yes, I have the same problem with synching my laptop to my desktop using .mac and M/S. FWIW, I think I had this same problem before I was using M/S! However, I don't have a solution. :-) On Jul 6, 2006, at 7:46 AM, Bob Arnold wrote: > This is not really a missing sync question but it has to do with > sync and .mac and is driving me pretty crazy ...any advice or place > to go for help would be really appreciated: > > f I knew that the modifications were not changing the time of the > events and only changing something stupid I would be more > comfortable but worry they are changing something important. > > I am syncing two computers.... my laptop on which I make over 95% > of the changes and a desktop computer on which I rarely make > changes. They are both set to sync automatically everything. > > Now for the problem. About once a day or more (typically when I am > at work and NO ONE is changing the home desktop, , I get a msync > message saying there are 5-3000 calender modifications for my > laptop (there are never moore han 1-2 additions or deletions and > they typically occur only after I have in fact done something to > the desktop). Of course, I have no idea what these are and because > I want the laptop computer to be the pristine version I say no. > BTW this only happens with calendar, the other stuff never has any > problems. > > This is more likely to occur after my laptop has been asleep for a > while. I think it is more likely to occur when I am at work versus > when I am at home but not sure. > > > Then I go to the preference pane, in to .mac and reset my sync data > having my laptop override .mac....which then overrides my other > computer and all is cool for a while....but then a few hours- days > this happens again.. > > Recently I have been getting messages saying that there are > inconsistencies in the sync engine and the next sync will take longer. > > What is going on?? I would really like to be able to have the two > computers sync cleanly. f I knew that the modifications were not > changing the time of the events and only changing something stupid > I would be more comfortable but worry they are changing something > important. > > > BTW both are running 10.4.7, one is a G-4 and one is a G-5. Both > have the latest version of isync. > From isaac at cs.rmit.edu.au Thu Jul 6 16:30:02 2006 From: isaac at cs.rmit.edu.au (I. Balbin) Date: Thu Jul 6 17:00:11 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Technique to make sure you can sync (Treo 650/OSX10.4.5/G5) Message-ID: <34653A29-D3C1-485E-9B91-1B01EFC87D34@cs.rmit.edu.au> Sometimes, I've found that I attempt a sync and the process simply doesn't start up on the Mac side. You can try 3 or 4 times, and sometimes eventually it starts up. When that fails, I used to reboot my Palm and then restart my Mac and it would work. On a whim, I've begun to start up the Missing Sync Program manually first via a double click (and the window then comes up) After this I just press the hot sync button, and voila, it always syncs. Somewhere sometimes hitting the hotsync button doesn't successfully trigger the app to start up on the mac. From nettid1 at fastmail.fm Fri Jul 7 06:25:19 2006 From: nettid1 at fastmail.fm (zoara) Date: Fri Jul 7 06:25:26 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Technique to make sure you can sync (Treo 650/OSX10.4.5/G5) In-Reply-To: <34653A29-D3C1-485E-9B91-1B01EFC87D34@cs.rmit.edu.au> References: <34653A29-D3C1-485E-9B91-1B01EFC87D34@cs.rmit.edu.au> Message-ID: <44AE60BF.8080807@fastmail.fm> I. Balbin wrote: > Sometimes, I've found that I attempt a sync and the process simply > doesn't start up on the Mac side. [...] > On a whim, I've begun to start up the Missing Sync Program manually > first via a double click (and the window then comes up) After this I > just press the hot sync button, and voila, it always syncs. I have found that even doing that sometimes fails. What does always work is closing the Missing Sync application (if running), then killing the Missing Sync Monitor process using Activity Monitor, and then restarting Missing Sync manually. -z- From admin at kissphotography.com.au Fri Jul 7 12:39:07 2006 From: admin at kissphotography.com.au (kiss photography.) Date: Fri Jul 7 12:39:13 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re:Technique to make sure you can sync In-Reply-To: <200607071902.k67J0DLP025765@sparrow.markspace.com> References: <200607071902.k67J0DLP025765@sparrow.markspace.com> Message-ID: On 08/07/2006, at 5:02 AM, missing-sync-palmos-talk- request@lists.markspace.com wrote: >> Sometimes, I've found that I attempt a sync and the process simply >> doesn't start up on the Mac side. >> I have this happen occasionally when I first loaded MS, relaunching MS helped on these occasions. More often the Treo can't make a connection via Blue Tooth stating that the port is busy. I have no other blue tooth devices so I'm not sure why this occurs. Sometimes a second or third attempts gets it, if not a reboot (mac) usually seems to fix it. From mark.s.p.smith at gmail.com Fri Jul 7 17:16:26 2006 From: mark.s.p.smith at gmail.com (Mark Smith) Date: Fri Jul 7 17:16:23 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Japanese Capable Mail and Browser? Message-ID: I have recently joined this list, after getting the Missing Sync for Palm OS 5.1. So far, it does what I expect, and has successfully synced calender events, addresses, and To Dos, that include Japanese text. Does anyone know of a Japanese capable web browser and mail application for Palm? (A web browser does not affect the Missing Sync, but syncing mail messages will.) Mark Osaka, Japan Palm TX, Mac OS X 10.4.7, J-OS tt-24r2 From sgruby at markspace.com Fri Jul 7 17:59:16 2006 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Fri Jul 7 17:59:15 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Japanese Capable Mail and Browser? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0244A4B0-39E6-4CF3-BC23-E461DD62F81D@markspace.com> On Jul 7, 2006, at 5:16 PM, Mark Smith wrote: > I have recently joined this list, after getting the Missing Sync for > Palm OS 5.1. > So far, it does what I expect, and has successfully synced calender > events, addresses, and To Dos, that include Japanese text. Does anyone > know of a Japanese capable web browser and mail application for Palm? > (A web browser does not affect the Missing Sync, but syncing mail > messages will.) > You won't find many solutions to sync email with the Palm and the ones that are available have some major limitations (such as not syncing attachments, only syncing your inbox, etc.). Since you're using a TX, I'd recommend using an IMAP server for email and checking email directly from your handheld once you find an email program that handles Japanese. While I can't directly answer your question, I wouldn't base your choice on what will sync to your Mac (even for Windows, the email syncing solutions have some of the limitations I listed above). -- Scott Gruby Mark/Space, Inc. Please visit for assistance with Mark/Space products. From z-business at earthlink.net Fri Jul 7 21:00:00 2006 From: z-business at earthlink.net (Zeigh Owensby) Date: Fri Jul 7 21:00:08 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] ExitToShell Issues Message-ID: Hello, I am having a problem with reoccurring ?ExitToShell? error messages. Here are the details... I purchased a Treo 700p and wanted to start off with a clean slate before adding all of my data. I did a clean reinstall of Palm Desktop and Missing Sync- Palm, after backing up all of my sync data. There was an issue with the dreaded ?Transport Monitor...shared libraries?, but I corrected it. The first basic sync with Missing Sync- Palm 5.1 went okay, but I had everything turned off except the Install conduit (with nothing to install). Next, I added the Entourage conduit and got this error message: The conduit "Entourage Conduit" improperly called ExitToShell. This is an error in the conduit; you should remove the conduit from the conduits folder and contact the conduit developer for a fix. I checked to make sure that I had the most recent conduit version and even tried downloading a fresh copy, but still got the same error. As I worked with other conduits, I began to get the same error with some of them (such as Voice Memo). All of these conduits worked for me just a few days ago (and after updating to Mac 10.4.7). See what you get for ?trying to fix something that ain?t broke?! Anyhow, I happened to find this version note in the list of fixes for Missing Sync- Palm 5.0: Issue 2934 - Patched ExitToShell such that conduits that call this generate an error alert telling the user to contact the conduit. Well, it looks as though this issue has risen it?s ugly head again. Any suggestions to beat this monster back into the digital wasteland? More microchips than sense, Dr. Z. Apple PowerBook G4 1.5 GHz Mac OS 10.4.7 From sgruby at markspace.com Fri Jul 7 21:13:57 2006 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Fri Jul 7 21:13:55 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] ExitToShell Issues In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6A9895EE-CF84-4290-8C73-3158CB4FD504@markspace.com> On Jul 7, 2006, at 9:00 PM, Zeigh Owensby wrote: > > I checked to make sure that I had the most recent conduit version > and even > tried downloading a fresh copy, but still got the same error. As I > worked > with other conduits, I began to get the same error with some of > them (such > as Voice Memo). All of these conduits worked for me just a few days > ago (and > after updating to Mac 10.4.7). See what you get for ?trying to fix > something > that ain?t broke?! > > Anyhow, I happened to find this version note in the list of fixes for > Missing Sync- Palm 5.0: > > Issue 2934 - Patched ExitToShell such that conduits that call this > generate > an error alert telling the user to contact the conduit. > > Well, it looks as though this issue has risen it?s ugly head again. > Any > suggestions to beat this monster back into the digital wasteland? That release note item means that inside of Missing Sync just quitting and not telling the user, we popup the alert message you see. The issue, as indicated in the error message is that the conduit has done something wrong; usually this a result of corrupted preferences in a conduit or a bug in the conduit itself. Many conduit developers don't call ExitToShell themselves, but it is included in a library they are using. So instead of exiting with an error message, they just quit the application. I'd just creating a new OS X user account and try to sync to that account which will be clean with no preferences. -- Scott Gruby Mark/Space, Inc. Please visit for assistance with Mark/Space products. From stdoonline at googlemail.com Sat Jul 8 06:30:58 2006 From: stdoonline at googlemail.com (Stefan Dorscht) Date: Sat Jul 8 06:30:57 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] MissingSync and Hagenuk S200? Message-ID: <44AFB392.5060205@googlemail.com> Hello all, does anybody know if MissingSync supports the Hagenuk S200 mobile phone (with Palm OS Garnet 5.4)? I could not find any information on the "supported devices" homepage. Best regards, Stefan Dorscht From sgruby at markspace.com Sat Jul 8 06:49:05 2006 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Sat Jul 8 06:49:02 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] MissingSync and Hagenuk S200? In-Reply-To: <44AFB392.5060205@googlemail.com> References: <44AFB392.5060205@googlemail.com> Message-ID: On Jul 8, 2006, at 6:30 AM, Stefan Dorscht wrote: > Hello all, > > does anybody know if MissingSync supports the Hagenuk S200 mobile > phone > (with Palm OS Garnet 5.4)? > > I could not find any information on the "supported devices" homepage. > > Best regards, the xplore M68 is on the supported devices list; the information I've found is that the HagenukS200 is the M68 in Europe. So, it should work, but we have not tested the device. -- Scott Gruby Mark/Space, Inc. Please visit for assistance with Mark/Space products. From tendim at gmail.com Sat Jul 8 08:18:27 2006 From: tendim at gmail.com (tendim) Date: Sat Jul 8 08:18:23 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] TMS Events stopped working after syncing with Outlook? Message-ID: <28983f7c0607080818s268b7663i63296f6dd4380713@mail.gmail.com> I've been using TMS successfully since I purchased it a few weeks back, love the product. Syncs were blazing fast, typically lasting less than a minute after my initial sync. I wanted to sync my Treo 650 with both iCal/Address Book and my Outlook contacts/calendar at work. I installed Palm Desktop and, using the Palm Outlook conduits, synced the Treo at work successfully. Recently, Mark/Sync Events syncing doesn't want to work. It sits at the Mark/Space Events conduit telling me it is "Pushing changes from device", but the progress bar (the bottom-most bar) never changes from 0%. I have had successful syncs since doing the Outlook sync at work, but suddenly Events seem to have stopped working successfully. >From memory, my actions were: 1. Sync Treo to OS X 2. Install Palm Desktop at work 3. Sync Treo to work computer, using Outlook conduits 4. Sync Treo to OS X 5. Run "Remove iCal Dupes" script found on the Mark/Space website (removed over 1000 duplicates) 6. Sync Treo to OS X 7. Several days of syncing Treo to OS X without issue (I only sync at work every two or three days) 8. Sync Treo to work computer, using Palm Outlook conduits 9. Sync Treo to OS X Everything fell apart at step 9. Note that, I was able to successfully sync with OS X after syncing with my work computer, up until I ran the Remove iCal dupes. Ideas???? From bohdanz at gmail.com Sat Jul 8 17:02:42 2006 From: bohdanz at gmail.com (Bohdan Zachary) Date: Sat Jul 8 17:02:44 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Entourage events/Calendar - no sync issue Message-ID: <159CC8BF-9B8B-493D-8F2E-14FB9208E5A0@gmail.com> Repeatedly I cannot get the latest update of Missing Sync to get my handhelds events onto Entourage. Here's the latest error message: Syncing Calendar An unknown error #16394 occurred Failed Entourage Conduit (0x400a) I'm running 10.4.7 on my Mac, have the latest Missing Sync version - and not matter what I try this is a no go. I've seen others are having this issue. Anyone at MarkSpace - can you please address whether this is being looked at? Thanks. From chrisridd at mac.com Sun Jul 9 01:36:24 2006 From: chrisridd at mac.com (Chris Ridd) Date: Sun Jul 9 01:36:28 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Entourage events/Calendar - no sync issue In-Reply-To: <159CC8BF-9B8B-493D-8F2E-14FB9208E5A0@gmail.com> Message-ID: On 9/7/06 1:02, Bohdan Zachary wrote: > Repeatedly I cannot get the latest update of Missing Sync to get my > handhelds events onto Entourage. > Here's the latest error message: > > Syncing Calendar > An unknown error #16394 occurred > Failed Entourage Conduit (0x400a) > > I'm running 10.4.7 on my Mac, have the latest Missing Sync version - > and not matter what I try this is a no go. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think you need Microsoft's Entourage conduit any more *if* you're using Entourage 11.2.3 (the version with Sync Services support) and Missing Sync 5 (using Sync Services). Cheers, Chris From ucgajpd at ucl.ac.uk Sun Jul 9 07:19:24 2006 From: ucgajpd at ucl.ac.uk (Jason Davies) Date: Sun Jul 9 07:19:22 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] sync using WiFi (Palm TX and MacPowerBook) In-Reply-To: <200607060129.k661TUus027867@mac.com> Message-ID: > >I have been trying to make it work for quite some time, and finally, I >have succeeded yesterday for the first time (I don't know how I did >that because I haven't changed any settings since previous attemps, I >just "tried one more time" and bingo, it worked...). Today I have tried >to connect the Palm directly to the PowerBook (the PowerBook created >the network). The Palm found the PowerBook in the network, displayed >the correct IP-addrerss, but failed to start sychronization. I switched >the network back to AirPort. Palm connects, finds the PowerBook, >dispolays correct IP-address but fails to synchronize... Since then, >all attempts were unsuccessful.... have you checked that the PB is getting the same IP address from the Express DHCP server? also have you checked the firewall, enabled in MS prefs (I sometimes found it worked better when I relaxed the settings there, something about allowing anything to connect rather than designated handhelds.) you may have done this but it's turning into 'checklist' time on this. From danielg at bu.edu Sun Jul 9 11:43:30 2006 From: danielg at bu.edu (Daniel Goldenholz) Date: Sun Jul 9 11:43:25 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re:Technique to make sure you can sync In-Reply-To: References: <200607071902.k67J0DLP025765@sparrow.markspace.com> Message-ID: <6f8734330607091143g5ac7284dxf338758e6fc52fef@mail.gmail.com> I found that if you log out, and log back in, that is just as good as rebooting to make MS happy again. D On 7/7/06, kiss photography. wrote: > > On 08/07/2006, at 5:02 AM, missing-sync-palmos-talk- > request@lists.markspace.com wrote: > > > >> Sometimes, I've found that I attempt a sync and the process simply > >> doesn't start up on the Mac side. > >> > > I have this happen occasionally when I first loaded MS, relaunching > MS helped on these occasions. > More often the Treo can't make a connection via Blue Tooth stating > that the port is busy. > I have no other blue tooth devices so I'm not sure why this occurs. > Sometimes a second or third attempts gets it, if not a reboot (mac) > usually seems to fix it. > > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your subscribed > email address to: > missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com > > -- Daniel Goldenholz --------------------------------------------------------------------- Cell: 617-935-9421 http://people.bu.edu/danielg/ From luomat at gmail.com Sun Jul 9 12:08:44 2006 From: luomat at gmail.com (TjL) Date: Sun Jul 9 12:08:41 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Network Sync to Windows PC in Parallels? Message-ID: I have a MacBook (not pro) running 10.4.7 with Win XP Pro in Parallels and MissingSync. I'd like to use Bluetooth to sync my Palm (Treo 650) to Palm Desktop in Windows. I have the Windows side setup to receive Network syncs, but it seems like MissingSync thinks I'm trying to HotSync with the MacBook. Since I can no longer specify "Internet Sharing" I'm not sure what to do. From sgruby at markspace.com Sun Jul 9 12:27:31 2006 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Sun Jul 9 12:27:30 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Network Sync to Windows PC in Parallels? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <42FA6B30-E87D-4359-8ACC-9F25C1731777@markspace.com> On Jul 9, 2006, at 12:08 PM, TjL wrote: > I have a MacBook (not pro) running 10.4.7 with Win XP Pro in Parallels > and MissingSync. > > I'd like to use Bluetooth to sync my Palm (Treo 650) to Palm > Desktop in Windows. > > I have the Windows side setup to receive Network syncs, but it seems > like MissingSync thinks I'm trying to HotSync with the MacBook. Since > I can no longer specify "Internet Sharing" I'm not sure what to do. > _______________________________________________ I'd recommend the following: In order to prevent Missing Sync from listening for connections at all, turn off Bluetooth, USB, and Network sync in the main Missing Sync window. Then, setup Parallels to sync via Bluetooth (if Bluetooth is recognized by Parallels). Missing Sync will be out of the equation in this case. Missing Sync automatically detects between Internet Sharing and HotSync based on the packets it receives from the device; you likely have your device setup incorrectly as it is attempting to HotSync instead of make an Internet Connection. I realize my answer may be a bit confusing, but what you're trying to do is a bit out of the ordinary and I believe it would be easiest for you to remove Missing Sync from the picture (by turning off the connections) and work directly with Parallels. -- Scott Gruby Mark/Space, Inc. Please visit for assistance with Mark/Space products. From bohdanz at gmail.com Sun Jul 9 12:28:56 2006 From: bohdanz at gmail.com (Bohdan Zachary) Date: Sun Jul 9 12:28:51 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] more on the Entourage events sync problem Message-ID: <41A88B87-C4BA-4E66-AB8B-7DDAAF50215C@gmail.com> Chris, I am using Entourage version 11.2.4, Missing Sync 5.1.0 and Mac OS 10.4.7. I'm not sure if I understand how I'm to use 'Sync services'. Perhaps I've missed a step. Right now I launch Missing Sync, have my Entourage conduit check with Addressbook, Calendar Notes and Memos all set to sync - and then I launch my Palm E2. Everything seems to sync - except for the Calendar. Any more thoughts on this? Thanks. From tendim at gmail.com Sun Jul 9 16:47:49 2006 From: tendim at gmail.com (tendim) Date: Sun Jul 9 16:47:46 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Test Message-ID: <28983f7c0607091647y6eafb659h57af7992cf7705ba@mail.gmail.com> I have been unable to post to the list since signing up, this is a test. If you get this, please reply directly (offlist) and let me know. Thanks. -Patrick From chrisridd at mac.com Sun Jul 9 23:47:12 2006 From: chrisridd at mac.com (Chris Ridd) Date: Sun Jul 9 23:47:11 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] more on the Entourage events sync problem In-Reply-To: <41A88B87-C4BA-4E66-AB8B-7DDAAF50215C@gmail.com> Message-ID: On 9/7/06 8:28, Bohdan Zachary wrote: > Chris, > > I am using Entourage version 11.2.4, Missing Sync 5.1.0 and Mac OS > 10.4.7. > I'm not sure if I understand how I'm to use 'Sync services'. > Perhaps I've missed a step. I'd start at the FAQ: There's some good tutorial stuff there explaining what Sync Services is, and then how to enable it. Cheers, Chris From markspace at urmel.demon.co.uk Mon Jul 10 06:52:54 2006 From: markspace at urmel.demon.co.uk (MW) Date: Mon Jul 10 06:53:00 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] MemoPad NSRangeException and unable to open Task DB Message-ID: I keep getting these messages when syncing my LifeDrive with my Mac: OK Mark/Space Events (Mark/Space MemoPad) NSRangeException *** -[NSCFArray objectAtIndex:]: index (14) beyond bounds (14) Task conduit was unable to open the Task database on the handheld. Failed Mark/Space Tasks (0x4403) I don't get the message if I just sync again. Here is a history of all instances with this error message: OK Mark/Space Events (Mark/Space MemoPad) NSRangeException *** -[NSCFArray objectAtIndex:]: index (1) beyond bounds (1) Task conduit was unable to open the Task database on the handheld. Failed Mark/Space Tasks (0x4403) SyncClient error. Can't initialize sync session. OK Mark/Space Events with 2 message(s) (Mark/Space MemoPad) NSRangeException *** -[NSCFArray objectAtIndex:]: index (2) beyond bounds (1) Task conduit was unable to open the Task database on the handheld. Failed Mark/Space Tasks (0x4403) Sync starting at 08/07/2006 20:44 (20:44:50) on USB (5.1.0) Using profile named: (Mark/Space MemoPad) NSRangeException *** -[NSCFArray objectAtIndex:]: index (26) beyond bounds (25) Failed Note Pad (0x4403) Sync completed successfully at 08/07/2006 20:44 (20:44:52) ------------------------------------------------------------------ Sync starting at 08/07/2006 20:45 (20:45:44) on USB (5.1.0) Using profile named: OK Mark/Space MemoPad OK Note Pad Sync completed successfully at 08/07/2006 20:45 (20:45:47) ------------------------------------------------------------------ OK Mark/Space Events (Mark/Space MemoPad) NSRangeException *** -[NSCFArray objectAtIndex:]: index (14) beyond bounds (13) Task conduit was unable to open the Task database on the handheld. Failed Mark/Space Tasks (0x4403) Has anyone else seen these messages? Why is this happening? Cheers Michael Cheers Michael From sgruby at markspace.com Mon Jul 10 07:26:32 2006 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Mon Jul 10 07:26:33 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] MemoPad NSRangeException and unable to open Task DB In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <75F07055-748A-4E3B-BC9A-83AB7BAFF43B@markspace.com> On Jul 10, 2006, at 6:52 AM, MW wrote: > I keep getting these messages when syncing my LifeDrive with my Mac: > > OK Mark/Space Events > (Mark/Space MemoPad) NSRangeException *** -[NSCFArray > objectAtIndex:]: index (14) beyond bounds (14) > Task conduit was unable to open the Task database on the handheld. > Failed Mark/Space Tasks (0x4403) > We have identified that the cause of this issue is usually due to syncing with 2 computers. We have addressed this issue and it will be available as part of the next free update that should be ready sometime this summer. -- Scott Gruby Mark/Space, Inc. Please visit for assistance with Mark/Space products. From ben.steeves at gmail.com Mon Jul 10 11:24:48 2006 From: ben.steeves at gmail.com (Ben Steeves) Date: Mon Jul 10 11:24:45 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Network Sync to Windows PC in Parallels? In-Reply-To: <42FA6B30-E87D-4359-8ACC-9F25C1731777@markspace.com> References: <42FA6B30-E87D-4359-8ACC-9F25C1731777@markspace.com> Message-ID: <7ebb24d10607101124m79023819v5e3fcfc40475e965@mail.gmail.com> On 7/9/06, Scott Gruby wrote: > I realize my answer may be a bit confusing, but what you're trying to > do is a bit out of the ordinary and I believe it would be easiest for > you to remove Missing Sync from the picture (by turning off the > connections) and work directly with Parallels. I believe you're right -- I've synched to Windows via VMWare on Linux boxes before and the objective is to get Linux as far out of the picture as possible so that VMWare can "see" the Palm. I imagine it would be quite similar with Parallels. -- _ Ben Steeves bcs@metacon.ca ( ) The ASCII ribbon campaign ben.steeves@unb.ca X against HTML e-mail GPG ID: 0xB3EBF1D9 / \ http://www.metacon.ca/ascii Yahoo Messenger: ben_steeves From ben.steeves at gmail.com Mon Jul 10 11:48:52 2006 From: ben.steeves at gmail.com (Ben Steeves) Date: Mon Jul 10 11:48:49 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re:Technique to make sure you can sync In-Reply-To: <6f8734330607091143g5ac7284dxf338758e6fc52fef@mail.gmail.com> References: <200607071902.k67J0DLP025765@sparrow.markspace.com> <6f8734330607091143g5ac7284dxf338758e6fc52fef@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7ebb24d10607101148v715d12d7t7a96688d2843630b@mail.gmail.com> On 7/9/06, Daniel Goldenholz wrote: > I found that if you log out, and log back in, that is just as good as > rebooting to make MS happy again. > You don't even need to do that. Just open up a terminal (gasp! horror!) and do the following: $ ps auwx | grep "Missing" | grep -v grep | awk '{ print "sudo kill " $2}' | sh Then start Missing Sync again and HotSync*. I habitually run this when my LifeDrive can't sync. * this kills the Missing Sync listener that launches Missing Sync when you press the HotSync button, which, in my experience, is the part that seems to go off into never-never land anyway. -- _ Ben Steeves bcs@metacon.ca ( ) The ASCII ribbon campaign ben.steeves@unb.ca X against HTML e-mail GPG ID: 0xB3EBF1D9 / \ http://www.metacon.ca/ascii Yahoo Messenger: ben_steeves From sgruby at markspace.com Mon Jul 10 17:41:32 2006 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Mon Jul 10 17:41:35 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re:Technique to make sure you can sync In-Reply-To: <7ebb24d10607101148v715d12d7t7a96688d2843630b@mail.gmail.com> References: <200607071902.k67J0DLP025765@sparrow.markspace.com> <6f8734330607091143g5ac7284dxf338758e6fc52fef@mail.gmail.com> <7ebb24d10607101148v715d12d7t7a96688d2843630b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <944CEFFE-FE87-4D5A-9F08-AE0493264D79@markspace.com> On Jul 10, 2006, at 11:48 AM, Ben Steeves wrote: > On 7/9/06, Daniel Goldenholz wrote: >> I found that if you log out, and log back in, that is just as good as >> rebooting to make MS happy again. >> > > You don't even need to do that. Just open up a terminal (gasp! > horror!) and do the following: > > $ ps auwx | grep "Missing" | grep -v grep | awk '{ print "sudo > kill " $2}' | sh > > Then start Missing Sync again and HotSync*. I habitually run this > when my LifeDrive can't sync. > > * this kills the Missing Sync listener that launches Missing Sync when > you press the HotSync button, which, in my experience, is the part > that seems to go off into never-never land anyway. In many cases, just unchecking all the connection types (USB, Bluetooth, and Network) and then turning them back on will restart the Monitor application. -- Scott Gruby Mark/Space, Inc. Please visit for assistance with Mark/Space products. From harryo43 at yahoo.com Mon Jul 10 18:15:19 2006 From: harryo43 at yahoo.com (Harry Flaxman) Date: Mon Jul 10 18:15:16 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] more on the Entourage events sync problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20060711011519.3276.qmail@web53806.mail.yahoo.com> The way you have the url seems to be mistyped or wrong. My browser claims that it doesn't exist. Thanks! Hary --- Chris Ridd wrote: > On 9/7/06 8:28, Bohdan Zachary > wrote: > > > Chris, > > > > I am using Entourage version 11.2.4, Missing Sync > 5.1.0 and Mac OS > > 10.4.7. > > I'm not sure if I understand how I'm to use 'Sync > services'. > > Perhaps I've missed a step. > > I'd start at the FAQ: > > > > There's some good tutorial stuff there explaining > what Sync Services is, and > then how to enable it. > > Cheers, > > Chris > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) > from your subscribed email address to: > missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com > ____________________ Harry Flaxman Dual G5's Rule! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From bcriscuolo at markspace.com Tue Jul 11 05:56:03 2006 From: bcriscuolo at markspace.com (Brian M. Criscuolo) Date: Tue Jul 11 05:56:03 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] more on the Entourage events sync problem In-Reply-To: <20060711011519.3276.qmail@web53806.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20060711011519.3276.qmail@web53806.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <0DF4333C-F888-4BA7-BB76-F4636A25B89F@markspace.com> Hary, No problem with Mail.app - I just clicked the link and it opened. What email/browser are you using? On Jul 10, 2006, at 9:15 PM, Harry Flaxman wrote: > The way you have the url seems to be mistyped or > wrong. My browser claims that it doesn't exist. > > Thanks! > > Hary > > --- Chris Ridd wrote: > >> On 9/7/06 8:28, Bohdan Zachary >> wrote: >> >>> Chris, >>> >>> I am using Entourage version 11.2.4, Missing Sync >> 5.1.0 and Mac OS >>> 10.4.7. >>> I'm not sure if I understand how I'm to use 'Sync >> services'. >>> Perhaps I've missed a step. >> >> I'd start at the FAQ: >> >> > >> >> There's some good tutorial stuff there explaining >> what Sync Services is, and >> then how to enable it. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Chris >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >> To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) >> from your subscribed email address to: >> missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com >> > > > ____________________ > Harry Flaxman > Dual G5's Rule! > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your > subscribed email address to: > missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com ******************** Brian M. Criscuolo Senior Software Engineer Mark/Space, Inc. bcriscuolo@markspace.com From mglists at gmail.com Tue Jul 11 10:45:59 2006 From: mglists at gmail.com (MikeG) Date: Tue Jul 11 10:45:58 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Palm Desktop to Apple-Mark/Space apps? Message-ID: <16C09723-1116-4339-9103-959521234EB4@gmail.com> I've been following the discussion on Missing Sync 5 since its release, waiting for the initial flood of problems to subside. It seemed that the app has become fairly stable with the release of 5.1. I'm ready to upgrade from version 4. But I am stumped as to the best way to do this. The bulk of my data is in Palm Desktop. Some of it is in Address Book. A small amount in iCal. But I understand that proper procedure is you have to have all your information in Address Book and iCal and overwrite the Palm on the first sync. Has anyone got any tips on how best to do this? Is it as simple as exporting all your Palm Desktop items as their various .vcf, .vcal formats? What about the memos? They go that Mark/Space Memo app, right? How? Then I suppose it's important to get your iCal data into the calendars, and make sure your Address Book categories are as you want. But since I've got categories in Palm Desktop, isn't there some way to preserve them as I transfer to the iCal/Address Book/Memo app? I'd really appreciate some pointers on the best way to do this, so I can successfully transition to the Apple-Mark/Space apps and finally leave that inadequate Palm Desktop behind. Cheers, Mike G. From markspace at urmel.demon.co.uk Tue Jul 11 14:10:19 2006 From: markspace at urmel.demon.co.uk (MW) Date: Tue Jul 11 14:10:19 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] (no subject) Message-ID: <6E17B912-5CB0-4D14-91D6-549288FFF739@urmel.demon.co.uk> Something catastrophic has happened. I have lost all my recordings onto my SD card in my LifeDrive. I was driving in my car and have to hold a few important telephone conversation. As I was unable to take notes, I decided to use my LifeDrive to record the conversation. I chose to store the voice memos onto a blank 256 MB SanDisk SD card. I wanted the extra space as I wasn't quite sure how much memory the recordings would take up and I wanted to avoid using the hard disk in case the road was too bumpy. All worked well and I know that the recordings were made. So when I got back home I synchronized my LifeDrive and thought that all data is safe. Only now I realized that all files on my SD disk are gone. checking in my sync log it appears that the iTunes conduit deleted all my recordings!!!! Does this conduit not allow for the fact that wav files can be created on the LifeDrive? Is there any way of getting back my files? These recordings are very important to me. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Sync starting at 11/07/2006 18:22 (18:22:42) on USB (5.1.0) Using profile named: myProfile LD OK Install TimeCopy: host 2006/07/11 18:22:46, palm 2006/07/11 18:22:44, diff: 2s OK TimeCopy OK Mark/Space Conduit for AvantGo Removed "9-37.wav" from card. Removed "14-22.wav" from card. Removed "13-47-tel-with-sebastian.wav" from card. Removed "15-19.wav" from card. Removed "15-10-tel-with-gordon.wav" from card. Removed "14-43-tel-with-sebastian.wav" from card. Removed "15-16-tel-with-sebastian.wav" from card. Removed "18-06-tel-with-sebastian.wav" from card. OK Mark/Space Conduit for iTunes OK Mark/Space Contacts ... Cheers Michael From kissphotography at mac.com Tue Jul 11 16:10:49 2006 From: kissphotography at mac.com (Michael Gregory) Date: Tue Jul 11 16:10:54 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re:Technique to make sure you can sync In-Reply-To: <200607111901.k6BJ0i5v028149@sparrow.markspace.com> References: <200607111901.k6BJ0i5v028149@sparrow.markspace.com> Message-ID: <88D862AA-4445-4EBB-B7E1-5DF5DF595D3A@mac.com> > In many cases, just unchecking all the connection types (USB, > Bluetooth, and Network) and then turning them back on will restart > the Monitor application. Thanks to Scott and others for their suggestions, this one is the winner so far as unfortunately using the terminal app. would get me glazed expressions if I suggested that one to my partner! Regards, Michael From bmcewen at comcast.net Tue Jul 11 23:52:36 2006 From: bmcewen at comcast.net (Brian McEwen) Date: Tue Jul 11 23:52:39 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <6E17B912-5CB0-4D14-91D6-549288FFF739@urmel.demon.co.uk> References: <6E17B912-5CB0-4D14-91D6-549288FFF739@urmel.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <938C0F61-DA5D-49CB-A65A-705E2D93E227@comcast.net> On Jul 11, 2006, at 5:10 PM, MW wrote: > > Does this conduit not allow for the fact that wav files can be > created on the LifeDrive? > Is there any way of getting back my files? These recordings are > very important to me. There are cheap/free tools for "unerasing" flash card data files. Don't use the card until you do this!! Windows based, just maybe there are OS X ones by now. A little googling wil find some solutions, sorry I don't have a name offhand. I used one, once, years ago, it had a demo mode that would show me the files it found, $25 to activate it to recover them. A bit of a pain as of course along with the complete files came some fragments, but worth it. HTH. Brian From bma1 at mac.com Wed Jul 12 03:00:10 2006 From: bma1 at mac.com (Bob Arnold) Date: Wed Jul 12 03:00:15 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Soho note sync issue In-Reply-To: <938C0F61-DA5D-49CB-A65A-705E2D93E227@comcast.net> References: <6E17B912-5CB0-4D14-91D6-549288FFF739@urmel.demon.co.uk> <938C0F61-DA5D-49CB-A65A-705E2D93E227@comcast.net> Message-ID: <224D48FD-CB5D-4643-8375-4C711AC4C86B@mac.com> > I just upgraded from stickybrain to soho notes. Because of the > change I had my mac override the palm. The override went ok but I > lost all my labels (which on the palm would be categories). Is > this not supported? They all showed up as unfiled on the palm Bob Bob Arnold rabob@pitt.edu *Institute for Doctor-Patient Communication Section of Palliative Care and Medical Ethics Intstitute to Enhance palliative Care http://www.upmc.edu/palliativecare For oncology fellows --> http://www.oncotalk.info American Academy on Communication in Healthcare (AACH) (Formerly the American Academy on Physician and Patient) Better Communication. Better Relationships. Better Care.sm www.physicianpatient.org w-412-692-4834 FAX - 412-692-4315 beeper-412-647-7243, #2322 "Suffering is not a question which demands an answer, it is not a problem which demands a solution, it is a mystery which demands a presence." Anonymous "Helping, fixing and serving represent three different ways of seeing life. When you help, you see life as weak. When you fix, you see life as broken. When you serve, you see life as whole. Fixing and helping may be the work of the ego, and service the work of the soul". Rachel Naomi Remen ?This e-mail may contain confidential information of the sending organization. Any unauthorized or improper disclosure, copying,distribution, or use of the contents of this e-mail and attached document(s) is prohibited. The information contained in this e-mail and attached document(s) is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail and delete the original e- mail and attached document(s).? From drtimhill at comcast.net Wed Jul 12 23:03:43 2006 From: drtimhill at comcast.net (Tim Hill) Date: Wed Jul 12 23:03:42 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Confused: Missing Sync, iSync, Palm Desktop Message-ID: <44B5E23F.5030305@comcast.net> So, I'm the proud owner of a new Treo 650 (yeah, I know, big deal) and The Missing Sync for Palm OS... I now have three tools that claim to handle Palm OS to Mac sync: 1. The build-in Mac OS X iSync 2. The Palm Desktop 3. The Missing Sync My goal is to have sync between the standard Mac apps (Address Book, iCal) and the Palm, as well as run a few Palm apps (eReader etc.). Question: Which of the above tools to I use? Can I *just* install The Missing Sync, or does it need bits of Palm Desktop? Is iSync involved and/or should it be? Do I need to "introduce" the Treo to iSync, or does The Missing Sync take care of everything? Thanks in advance for help / info... Tim From bcriscuolo at markspace.com Thu Jul 13 05:46:52 2006 From: bcriscuolo at markspace.com (Brian M. Criscuolo) Date: Thu Jul 13 05:46:50 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Confused: Missing Sync, iSync, Palm Desktop In-Reply-To: <44B5E23F.5030305@comcast.net> References: <44B5E23F.5030305@comcast.net> Message-ID: Tim, You don't need anything *but* Missing Sync. As a matter of fact, don't install Palm Desktop, nor the iSync conduits. We have PIM conduits (contacts, events and tasks) to take care of everything. Your Treo will sync to your Mac, and your Mac to any other applications that are considered Sync Services sync clients (Address Book, iCal, Entourage, SOHO Office, .Mac, iPod, etc.). Good luck! b On Jul 13, 2006, at 2:03 AM, Tim Hill wrote: > So, I'm the proud owner of a new Treo 650 (yeah, I know, big deal) > and The Missing Sync for Palm OS... > > I now have three tools that claim to handle Palm OS to Mac sync: > 1. The build-in Mac OS X iSync > 2. The Palm Desktop > 3. The Missing Sync > > My goal is to have sync between the standard Mac apps (Address > Book, iCal) and the Palm, as well as run a few Palm apps (eReader > etc.). > > Question: Which of the above tools to I use? Can I *just* install > The Missing Sync, or does it need bits of Palm Desktop? Is iSync > involved and/or should it be? Do I need to "introduce" the Treo to > iSync, or does The Missing Sync take care of everything? > > Thanks in advance for help / info... > > Tim > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your > subscribed email address to: > missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com ******************** Brian M. Criscuolo Senior Software Engineer Mark/Space, Inc. bcriscuolo@markspace.com From iglesias at rnl.ist.utl.pt Thu Jul 13 06:07:27 2006 From: iglesias at rnl.ist.utl.pt (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Miguel_Igl=E9sias_Marques?=) Date: Thu Jul 13 06:07:26 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Confused: Missing Sync, iSync, Palm Desktop In-Reply-To: References: <44B5E23F.5030305@comcast.net> Message-ID: <44B6458F.4060700@rnl.ist.utl.pt> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi! Could you make that information explicit somewhere in the documentation/webpage? I didn't know what to do as well so, on the first computer I installed everything. I just never use Palm Desktop or Hotsync Manager. On my laptop I'll install ONLY TMS :D Regards, Brian M. Criscuolo wrote: > Tim, > > You don't need anything *but* Missing Sync. As a matter of fact, don't > install Palm Desktop, nor the iSync conduits. > > We have PIM conduits (contacts, events and tasks) to take care of > everything. Your Treo will sync to your Mac, and your Mac to any other > applications that are considered Sync Services sync clients (Address > Book, iCal, Entourage, SOHO Office, .Mac, iPod, etc.). > > Good luck! > > b > > On Jul 13, 2006, at 2:03 AM, Tim Hill wrote: > >> So, I'm the proud owner of a new Treo 650 (yeah, I know, big deal) and >> The Missing Sync for Palm OS... >> >> I now have three tools that claim to handle Palm OS to Mac sync: >> 1. The build-in Mac OS X iSync >> 2. The Palm Desktop >> 3. The Missing Sync >> >> My goal is to have sync between the standard Mac apps (Address Book, >> iCal) and the Palm, as well as run a few Palm apps (eReader etc.). >> >> Question: Which of the above tools to I use? Can I *just* install The >> Missing Sync, or does it need bits of Palm Desktop? Is iSync involved >> and/or should it be? Do I need to "introduce" the Treo to iSync, or >> does The Missing Sync take care of everything? >> >> Thanks in advance for help / info... >> >> Tim >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >> To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your >> subscribed email address to: >> missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com > > > ******************** > Brian M. Criscuolo > Senior Software Engineer > Mark/Space, Inc. > bcriscuolo@markspace.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your subscribed > email address to: > missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com > - -- Miguel Iglesias Marques email: iglesias@rnl.ist.utl.pt Equipa de Administra??o de Sistemas Rede das Novas Licenciaturas (RNL) Instituto Superior T?cnico -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (MingW32) Comment: GnuPT 2.7.3 iD8DBQFEtkWPZFz7Dpv3Y24RAvCWAJ0cGoZvHA2VqCAaaCDJH4G7ArYQNACdHZPZ 0vKr7ViQ5U3vqvm2zZEADW4= =rAgD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From loriolson at mac.com Thu Jul 13 06:22:51 2006 From: loriolson at mac.com (Lori M Olson) Date: Thu Jul 13 06:23:08 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Confused: Missing Sync, iSync, Palm Desktop In-Reply-To: <44B5E23F.5030305@comcast.net> References: <44B5E23F.5030305@comcast.net> Message-ID: <708B63B0-0851-4CF8-A231-3A711658B281@mac.com> On 13-Jul-06, at 12:03 AM, Tim Hill wrote: > So, I'm the proud owner of a new Treo 650 (yeah, I know, big deal) > and The Missing Sync for Palm OS... > > I now have three tools that claim to handle Palm OS to Mac sync: > 1. The build-in Mac OS X iSync > 2. The Palm Desktop > 3. The Missing Sync > > My goal is to have sync between the standard Mac apps (Address > Book, iCal) and the Palm, as well as run a few Palm apps (eReader > etc.). > > Question: Which of the above tools to I use? Can I *just* install > The Missing Sync, or does it need bits of Palm Desktop? Is iSync > involved and/or should it be? Do I need to "introduce" the Treo to > iSync, or does The Missing Sync take care of everything? > > Thanks in advance for help / info... > > Tim > > Missing Sync uses the Mac's Sync Services, which is what lies behind iSync. And you really don't need Palm Desktop. So just go with Missing Sync, and let it figure it all out. It works for me and my Treo 650. I run eReader, as well as LifeBalance. It's all pretty solid. Regards, Lori From markspace at urmel.demon.co.uk Thu Jul 13 06:33:44 2006 From: markspace at urmel.demon.co.uk (MW) Date: Thu Jul 13 06:35:04 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <938C0F61-DA5D-49CB-A65A-705E2D93E227@comcast.net> References: <6E17B912-5CB0-4D14-91D6-549288FFF739@urmel.demon.co.uk> <938C0F61-DA5D-49CB-A65A-705E2D93E227@comcast.net> Message-ID: Thanks Brian. After a bit of searching I came across Smart FAT Recovery - only for Windows unfortunately, but at least it's free to use. I was able to restore my recordings, but I'd like to see this bug fixed in MS. I feel this should never have happened in the first place. I have tested it again today. 1. I restored all recordings onto my Palm, but this time I stored them on the hard disk. I synced and they were still there. 2. I made a new recording onto hard disk. I synced and they were all there still. 3. I made a new recording onto SD disk. I synced and it was gone again: Removed "13-50.wav" from card. OK Mark/Space Conduit for iTunes This means the bug is only deleting wav files on SD cards, though I told the iTunes conduit to only store items on the hard disk. Cheers Michael On 12 Jul 2006, at 07:52, Brian McEwen wrote: > > On Jul 11, 2006, at 5:10 PM, MW wrote: > >> >> Does this conduit not allow for the fact that wav files can be >> created on the LifeDrive? >> Is there any way of getting back my files? These recordings are >> very important to me. > > There are cheap/free tools for "unerasing" flash card data files. > Don't use the card until you do this!! Windows based, just maybe > there are OS X ones by now. > > A little googling wil find some solutions, sorry I don't have a > name offhand. I used one, once, years ago, it had a demo mode that > would show me the files it found, $25 to activate it to recover them. > > A bit of a pain as of course along with the complete files came > some fragments, but worth it. > > HTH. > > Brian > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your > subscribed email address to: > missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com From Patricia at PatriciaWarwick.com Thu Jul 13 07:14:41 2006 From: Patricia at PatriciaWarwick.com (Patricia Warwick) Date: Thu Jul 13 07:14:30 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] (no subject) In-Reply-To: References: <6E17B912-5CB0-4D14-91D6-549288FFF739@urmel.demon.co.uk> <938C0F61-DA5D-49CB-A65A-705E2D93E227@comcast.net> Message-ID: <07B883F0-57E2-429A-859D-A284A5C76642@PatriciaWarwick.com> Have you opened a defect via the support pages on the Web site? It won't necessarily get fixed because it has been discussed here. On 13-Jul-06, at 9:33 AM, MW wrote: > Thanks Brian. After a bit of searching I came across Smart FAT > Recovery - only for Windows unfortunately, but at least it's free > to use. I was able to restore my recordings, but I'd like to see > this bug fixed in MS. I feel this should never have happened in the > first place. From drtimhill at comcast.net Thu Jul 13 08:48:25 2006 From: drtimhill at comcast.net (Tim Hill) Date: Thu Jul 13 08:48:23 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Confused: Missing Sync, iSync, Palm Desktop In-Reply-To: <708B63B0-0851-4CF8-A231-3A711658B281@mac.com> References: <44B5E23F.5030305@comcast.net> <708B63B0-0851-4CF8-A231-3A711658B281@mac.com> Message-ID: <44B66B49.4070301@comcast.net> Great -- that's what I was hoping. Thanks everyone for the help :) --Tim Lori M Olson wrote: > > On 13-Jul-06, at 12:03 AM, Tim Hill wrote: > >> So, I'm the proud owner of a new Treo 650 (yeah, I know, big deal) >> and The Missing Sync for Palm OS... >> >> I now have three tools that claim to handle Palm OS to Mac sync: >> 1. The build-in Mac OS X iSync >> 2. The Palm Desktop >> 3. The Missing Sync >> >> My goal is to have sync between the standard Mac apps (Address Book, >> iCal) and the Palm, as well as run a few Palm apps (eReader etc.). >> >> Question: Which of the above tools to I use? Can I *just* install The >> Missing Sync, or does it need bits of Palm Desktop? Is iSync involved >> and/or should it be? Do I need to "introduce" the Treo to iSync, or >> does The Missing Sync take care of everything? >> >> Thanks in advance for help / info... >> >> Tim >> >> > > Missing Sync uses the Mac's Sync Services, which is what lies behind > iSync. And you really don't need Palm Desktop. So just go with > Missing Sync, and let it figure it all out. It works for me and my > Treo 650. I run eReader, as well as LifeBalance. It's all pretty solid. > > Regards, Lori > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your > subscribed email address to: > missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com > From markspace at urmel.demon.co.uk Thu Jul 13 09:01:02 2006 From: markspace at urmel.demon.co.uk (MW) Date: Thu Jul 13 09:01:05 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <07B883F0-57E2-429A-859D-A284A5C76642@PatriciaWarwick.com> References: <6E17B912-5CB0-4D14-91D6-549288FFF739@urmel.demon.co.uk> <938C0F61-DA5D-49CB-A65A-705E2D93E227@comcast.net> <07B883F0-57E2-429A-859D-A284A5C76642@PatriciaWarwick.com> Message-ID: Good point Patricia - I will raise a fault with them. I wanted to give them a chance to comment in case they already had a solution for it. Cheers Michael On 13 Jul 2006, at 15:14, Patricia Warwick wrote: > Have you opened a defect via the support pages on the Web site? It > won't necessarily get fixed because it has been discussed here. > > On 13-Jul-06, at 9:33 AM, MW wrote: > >> Thanks Brian. After a bit of searching I came across Smart FAT >> Recovery - only for Windows unfortunately, but at least it's free >> to use. I was able to restore my recordings, but I'd like to see >> this bug fixed in MS. I feel this should never have happened in >> the first place. > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your > subscribed email address to: > missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com From pwsonline at earthlink.net Thu Jul 13 10:10:47 2006 From: pwsonline at earthlink.net (Philip Sandstrom) Date: Thu Jul 13 10:10:45 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] sync problems, this is turning into a disaster Message-ID: <12D02C41-82C5-4F46-A899-7456CEE83D56@earthlink.net> I just installed the missing sync 2 days ago, I was able to successfully sync only my contacts, I was unable to sync my date book, I am using only the Mark/Space conduits for tasks, contacts, events, and memo pad. Yesterday night, the computer was on all night trying to sync with the handheld which was in it's cradle connected to the computer by USB and powered from the wall outlet. In the morning the message on my Zire 71 said that the hot sync connection was lost but the computer was indicating on the screen that is was still syncing the datebook. Does anyone know what might be wrong? Philip pwsonline@earthlink.net From jamus at jamus.com Thu Jul 13 11:36:06 2006 From: jamus at jamus.com (jamus@jamus.com) Date: Thu Jul 13 11:27:06 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Some events sync to an hour later Message-ID: <20060713133606.7b1oxnau8g44so8s@jamus.net> I'm having an issue where some events sync to my Treo 650 an hour later than what they occur through both DateBk6 and the built in Calendar. So far the only correlation I've made is the events that sync an hour later have "US/Eastern" as the time zone, while the ones that sync correctly have "America/Chicago" as the time zone. These events appear correctly in iCal. Am I missing some time zone setting somewhere? This is with everything on the latest release. Jamus ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. From iceclimber at sbcglobal.net Thu Jul 13 20:13:06 2006 From: iceclimber at sbcglobal.net (Donald J. Reed) Date: Thu Jul 13 20:13:02 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Recognizing handheld Message-ID: I just reloaded the operating system on my powerbook and had to reload the Missing Sync software. Now I can remember or find any information on how to get iSync to recognize my Tungsten T5 so I can syncronize iCal and Address Book. I know this is elementally simple but after spending all day reloading software... my frustration level has peaked. Any information on the procedure to get iSync to recognize my T5 would be greatly appreciated. Thank to any and all. From alan.schmitt at polytechnique.org Fri Jul 14 00:32:11 2006 From: alan.schmitt at polytechnique.org (Alan Schmitt) Date: Fri Jul 14 00:32:09 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Not synchronizing DateBk5 tags? Message-ID: <51BE4DCD-14E3-40E8-8E72-772D7A6CBB2C@polytechnique.org> Hello, I just made a feature request with Missing Sync (using the "Survey for MS Palm OS" link) asking to add an option not to sync DateBk5 tags with iCal. I find them distracting when I print my calendar as a list. It would even be better to take them into account completely, but I guess this might require a lot of work ;-) I'd like to know if other people would be interested in such a feature. Thanks, Alan -- Alan Schmitt The hacker: someone who figured things out and made something cool happen. .O. ..O OOO From bcriscuolo at markspace.com Fri Jul 14 05:59:13 2006 From: bcriscuolo at markspace.com (Brian M. Criscuolo) Date: Fri Jul 14 05:59:11 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Not synchronizing DateBk5 tags? In-Reply-To: <51BE4DCD-14E3-40E8-8E72-772D7A6CBB2C@polytechnique.org> References: <51BE4DCD-14E3-40E8-8E72-772D7A6CBB2C@polytechnique.org> Message-ID: <1ED0B996-ABD9-4088-9EBE-7FC20E10D3CD@markspace.com> Alan, Unfortunately, to anything other than DateBk5, those tags are just some characters in the note field. There are much better ways for DateBk5 to store their application specific data ("blessed" by Palm, and hidden from your view) that we would fully support and not destroy if it was used. I'd push on the creators of DateBk5 to use Palm OS "blob" storage for their PIM records. That way, everyone who has a conduit for the PIM data wouldn't have to deal with it. b On Jul 14, 2006, at 3:32 AM, Alan Schmitt wrote: > Hello, > > I just made a feature request with Missing Sync (using the "Survey > for MS Palm OS" link) asking to add an option not to sync DateBk5 > tags with iCal. I find them distracting when I print my calendar as > a list. It would even be better to take them into account > completely, but I guess this might require a lot of work ;-) > > I'd like to know if other people would be interested in such a > feature. > > Thanks, > > Alan > > -- > Alan Schmitt > > The hacker: someone who figured things out and made something cool > happen. > .O. > ..O > OOO > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your > subscribed email address to: > missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com ******************** Brian M. Criscuolo Senior Software Engineer Mark/Space, Inc. bcriscuolo@markspace.com From davidturley at pobox.com Fri Jul 14 08:14:24 2006 From: davidturley at pobox.com (David Turley) Date: Fri Jul 14 08:14:22 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Not synchronizing DateBk5 tags? In-Reply-To: <1ED0B996-ABD9-4088-9EBE-7FC20E10D3CD@markspace.com> References: <51BE4DCD-14E3-40E8-8E72-772D7A6CBB2C@polytechnique.org> <1ED0B996-ABD9-4088-9EBE-7FC20E10D3CD@markspace.com> Message-ID: <1522947A-6DFD-47BD-8408-C990D81B1AC0@pobox.com> Thanks for that explanation Brian. I actually stopped using DateBk years ago specifically because they borked up the notes field in any other PIM applications I might have synced with, iCal for one. On Jul 14, 2006, at 8:59 AM, Brian M. Criscuolo wrote: > Alan, > > Unfortunately, to anything other than DateBk5, those tags are just > some characters in the note field. There are much better ways for > DateBk5 to store their application specific data ("blessed" by > Palm, and hidden from your view) that we would fully support and > not destroy if it was used. > > I'd push on the creators of DateBk5 to use Palm OS "blob" storage > for their PIM records. That way, everyone who has a conduit for the > PIM data wouldn't have to deal with it. > From sgruby at markspace.com Fri Jul 14 08:32:03 2006 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Fri Jul 14 08:32:02 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Not synchronizing DateBk5 tags? In-Reply-To: <1522947A-6DFD-47BD-8408-C990D81B1AC0@pobox.com> References: <51BE4DCD-14E3-40E8-8E72-772D7A6CBB2C@polytechnique.org> <1ED0B996-ABD9-4088-9EBE-7FC20E10D3CD@markspace.com> <1522947A-6DFD-47BD-8408-C990D81B1AC0@pobox.com> Message-ID: <0B022FEB-650F-4236-83E8-66B08CB8565D@markspace.com> On Jul 14, 2006, at 8:14 AM, David Turley wrote: > Thanks for that explanation Brian. I actually stopped using DateBk > years ago specifically because they borked up the notes field in > any other PIM applications I might have synced with, iCal for one. > > On Jul 14, 2006, at 8:59 AM, Brian M. Criscuolo wrote: > >> Alan, >> >> Unfortunately, to anything other than DateBk5, those tags are just >> some characters in the note field. There are much better ways for >> DateBk5 to store their application specific data ("blessed" by >> Palm, and hidden from your view) that we would fully support and >> not destroy if it was used. >> >> I'd push on the creators of DateBk5 to use Palm OS "blob" storage >> for their PIM records. That way, everyone who has a conduit for >> the PIM data wouldn't have to deal with it. >> The main downside to using the "blob" storage is that it is only supported on Palm devices and not devices by other manufacturers (OK, there aren't that many left) and are not supported by older Palm handhelds, such as the Zire 71 and Tungsten T. -- Scott Gruby Mark/Space, Inc. Please visit for assistance with Mark/Space products. From pwsonline at earthlink.net Fri Jul 14 09:23:08 2006 From: pwsonline at earthlink.net (Philip Sandstrom) Date: Fri Jul 14 09:23:03 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] 18 hour sync of datebook Message-ID: <4116C104-36AA-4375-A0BC-B63179E28102@earthlink.net> I have been syncing the datebook on my Zire 71 to my Mac G4 for the last 18 hours using M/S events, which should be syncing with iCal. This is the only conduit I have activated for this sync. The application continues to respond (it's not frozen, I checked the Force Quit menu). The M/S screen still says mingling data and the Zire still says synchonizing date book. How long should this process take? I just bought M/S 3 days ago and it's been consuming my days. I was able to sync my contacts with address book and tasks using M/ S. Previous attempts at syncing datebook failed, this time I restarted the computer then activated the sync. It all seemed promising when (4 hours after I started the sync, I received a request from M/S to resolve conflicts, which I did). I thought at that point the process would be nearly over. I went to bed last night figuring all would be well in the morning, only to find the sync continuing. Does anyone know what might be wrong? Philip Philip Sandstrom pwsonline@earthlink.net From bcriscuolo at markspace.com Fri Jul 14 09:44:29 2006 From: bcriscuolo at markspace.com (Brian M. Criscuolo) Date: Fri Jul 14 09:44:27 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] 18 hour sync of datebook In-Reply-To: <4116C104-36AA-4375-A0BC-B63179E28102@earthlink.net> References: <4116C104-36AA-4375-A0BC-B63179E28102@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Philip, If it took 4 hours to get to the point of resolving conflicts, I'm going to hazard a guess that you have a LOT of events. It is very possible that you're still processing events as we try to send them from the Mac to the device. Any chance you can try to pare down your iCal calendars? Back them up and delete them from iCal? b On Jul 14, 2006, at 12:23 PM, Philip Sandstrom wrote: > I have been syncing the datebook on my Zire 71 to my Mac G4 for the > last 18 hours using M/S events, which should be syncing with iCal. > This is the only conduit I have activated for this sync. The > application continues to respond (it's not frozen, I checked the > Force Quit menu). The M/S screen still says mingling data and the > Zire still says synchonizing date book. How long should this > process take? I just bought M/S 3 days ago and it's been consuming > my days. I was able to sync my contacts with address book and > tasks using M/S. Previous attempts at syncing datebook failed, > this time I restarted the computer then activated the sync. It all > seemed promising when (4 hours after I started the sync, I received > a request from M/S to resolve conflicts, which I did). I thought > at that point the process would be nearly over. I went to bed last > night figuring all would be well in the morning, only to find the > sync continuing. Does anyone know what might be wrong? > Philip > > Philip Sandstrom > pwsonline@earthlink.net > > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your > subscribed email address to: > missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com ******************** Brian M. Criscuolo Senior Software Engineer Mark/Space, Inc. bcriscuolo@markspace.com From jamus at jamus.com Fri Jul 14 10:00:45 2006 From: jamus at jamus.com (jamus@jamus.com) Date: Fri Jul 14 09:51:39 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: Some events sync to an hour later Message-ID: <20060714120045.kvsbr72io0wog008@jamus.net> I've tracked down the problem to DateBk6. Apparently, it doesn't support the time zone feature of the Treo650. If it modifies an event, it'll discard the time zone. Grrr...and I really liked DateBk6. What calendar programs support the Treo 650's method of time zones? Jamus ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. From nettid1 at yahoo.co.uk Fri Jul 14 10:23:36 2006 From: nettid1 at yahoo.co.uk (zoara) Date: Fri Jul 14 10:23:23 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] 18 hour sync of datebook In-Reply-To: <4116C104-36AA-4375-A0BC-B63179E28102@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <1hih96r.tixr391m5pqfvM%nettid1@yahoo.co.uk> Philip Sandstrom wrote: > I have been syncing the datebook on my Zire 71 to my Mac G4 for the > last 18 hours using M/S events, which should be syncing with iCal. This sounds very familiar... I have around 2,500 events in my calendar, and have suffered the same thing, but with less patience than you. Around the same sort of timeframe, too - just when I'd started with Missing Sync. What I narrowed it down (based on experimenting and reading/posting here) to was a previous failure of M/S Events to sync properly. This sets the Missing Sync conduit to record the outcome of the last sync to 'unknown', so it has to go through *every* record (on both the Mac and the Palm) to check whether they match. This takes a while. What I found to be the easiest thing to do was to overwrite one set of data with the other; I decided that my Palm contained the 'master' data so I had to use the "defaults write" hack to allow me to set my Palm to "push the truth" into the Sync Services database (which iCal then syncs to). If you need to do this, please check the archives for instructions and associated warnings; it's a bit icky (if you have other things that sync to the Sync Services database and/or iCal) and it involves two syncs, one of which deletes all the data on the Mac! But it works. Please also back up your data on the Palm and the Mac, so you can recover from any problems... Thankfully, once I'd overwritten things, my subsequent syncs got a lot quicker, and I haven't had any trouble with this conduit since. I have started deleting records in my Calendar, just in case... Hope this helps! -zoara- -- From davidturley at pobox.com Fri Jul 14 10:30:39 2006 From: davidturley at pobox.com (David Turley) Date: Fri Jul 14 10:30:41 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] 18 hour sync of datebook In-Reply-To: <1hih96r.tixr391m5pqfvM%nettid1@yahoo.co.uk> References: <1hih96r.tixr391m5pqfvM%nettid1@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: <2133563E-5EE8-4CAE-B755-3A80E5AD6B6B@pobox.com> If I recall, that "hack" was removed from the release version of MS, so those directions no longer apply. On Jul 14, 2006, at 1:23 PM, zoara wrote: > > What I found to be the easiest thing to do was to overwrite one set of > data with the other; I decided that my Palm contained the 'master' > data > so I had to use the "defaults write" hack to allow me to set my > Palm to > "push the truth" into the Sync Services database (which iCal then > syncs > to). From chrisridd at mac.com Fri Jul 14 10:33:55 2006 From: chrisridd at mac.com (Chris Ridd) Date: Fri Jul 14 10:34:00 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] 18 hour sync of datebook In-Reply-To: <2133563E-5EE8-4CAE-B755-3A80E5AD6B6B@pobox.com> Message-ID: On 14/7/06 6:30, David Turley wrote: > If I recall, that "hack" was removed from the release version of MS, > so those directions no longer apply. Presumably if you deleted the appropriate database files on the Palm side, that would have the equivalent effect? Cheers, Chris From davidturley at pobox.com Fri Jul 14 10:41:48 2006 From: davidturley at pobox.com (David Turley) Date: Fri Jul 14 10:41:48 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] 18 hour sync of datebook In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: If you deleted the database on the palm side, I don't see how that would allow the palm to push the "truth" to the desktop, especially since there'd be nothing to push. :-) Given the current state of MS and sync services, I don't believe there is a way to do a palm overwrites desktop sync. Brian, Scott? On Jul 14, 2006, at 1:33 PM, Chris Ridd wrote: > On 14/7/06 6:30, David Turley wrote: > >> If I recall, that "hack" was removed from the release version of MS, >> so those directions no longer apply. > > Presumably if you deleted the appropriate database files on the > Palm side, > that would have the equivalent effect? > > Cheers, > > Chris > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your > subscribed email address to: > missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com > -- David Turley david@sans.org V.P. Operations The SANS Institute Phone: 540.371.5720 Ext. 101 / 540.548.2625 "A computer needs power, a network needs computers, and an IT security person needs SANS." James Guyton, USGS From sgruby at markspace.com Fri Jul 14 10:54:19 2006 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Fri Jul 14 10:54:18 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] 18 hour sync of datebook In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Jul 14, 2006, at 10:41 AM, David Turley wrote: > If you deleted the database on the palm side, I don't see how that > would allow the palm to push the "truth" to the desktop, especially > since there'd be nothing to push. :-) > > Given the current state of MS and sync services, I don't believe > there is a way to do a palm overwrites desktop sync. > > Brian, Scott? > We still have the ability to do desktop overwrite handheld (it's right in the user interface). As you pointed out, there is no way to handle Palm overwrites desktop short of removing the data from the desktop, resetting sync history, and then syncing. > > On Jul 14, 2006, at 1:33 PM, Chris Ridd wrote: > >> On 14/7/06 6:30, David Turley wrote: >> >>> If I recall, that "hack" was removed from the release version of MS, >>> so those directions no longer apply. >> >> Presumably if you deleted the appropriate database files on the >> Palm side, >> that would have the equivalent effect? >> >> Cheers, -- Scott Gruby Mark/Space, Inc. Please visit for assistance with Mark/Space products. From pwsonline at earthlink.net Fri Jul 14 14:20:03 2006 From: pwsonline at earthlink.net (Philip Sandstrom) Date: Fri Jul 14 14:20:02 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Going on 24 hours of sync In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <72ECED9B-4BAF-4D2D-B8FD-CD651FA8DF4C@earthlink.net> I am now going on 24 hours of sync. Neither app has quit or locked, M/S continues, palm sync continues, the Mac sync wheel keeps spinning, so I assume the sync continues. The data is 3 years of calendar entries. The most recent, complete, and important data is on the palm (Zire 71) so my only option is to sync palm with Mac. The M/S directions specifically state that there is no way to have the palm overwrite the desktop. I'm wondering, once this sync from eternity is complete will a daily sync take this kind of time? Philip On Jul 14, 2006, at 1:54 PM, Scott Gruby wrote: > > On Jul 14, 2006, at 10:41 AM, David Turley wrote: > >> If you deleted the database on the palm side, I don't see how that >> would allow the palm to push the "truth" to the desktop, >> especially since there'd be nothing to push. :-) >> >> Given the current state of MS and sync services, I don't believe >> there is a way to do a palm overwrites desktop sync. >> >> Brian, Scott? >> > > We still have the ability to do desktop overwrite handheld (it's > right in the user interface). As you pointed out, there is no way > to handle Palm overwrites desktop short of removing the data from > the desktop, resetting sync history, and then syncing. > >> >> On Jul 14, 2006, at 1:33 PM, Chris Ridd wrote: >> >>> On 14/7/06 6:30, David Turley wrote: >>> >>>> If I recall, that "hack" was removed from the release version of >>>> MS, >>>> so those directions no longer apply. >>> >>> Presumably if you deleted the appropriate database files on the >>> Palm side, >>> that would have the equivalent effect? >>> >>> Cheers, > > > -- > Scott Gruby > Mark/Space, Inc. > > > Please visit for assistance > with Mark/Space products. > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your > subscribed email address to: > missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com Philip W. Sandstrom - SOLUTIONS - - Consulting for the Performing Arts Producing, Planning, & Management - *Designing with Light* - Architecture + Theater 425 Prospect Place #2L Brooklyn, NY 11238 ph: 646-298-4180 fax: 309-413-2135 philipwsandstrom@mac.com From loriolson at mac.com Fri Jul 14 15:01:05 2006 From: loriolson at mac.com (Lori M Olson) Date: Fri Jul 14 15:01:27 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Going on 24 hours of sync In-Reply-To: <72ECED9B-4BAF-4D2D-B8FD-CD651FA8DF4C@earthlink.net> References: <72ECED9B-4BAF-4D2D-B8FD-CD651FA8DF4C@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <98B14D9E-A74D-47A6-9C06-0B9D6E9C2F6C@mac.com> On 14-Jul-06, at 3:20 PM, Philip Sandstrom wrote: > The M/S directions specifically state that there is no way to > have the palm overwrite the desktop. That's not the whole story. There is no way "using Missing Sync". But you can accomplish the desired result with a series of manual steps, as one person posted. 1. Stop the sync that's been running for 24 hours. It's not ever going to finish. 1a. Reboot, just in case this "running forever" sync does not properly stop. 2. Wipe out your Mac AddressBook and iCal data (If anything in there is important, BACK IT UP FIRST). 3. Reset Sync Services 4. Now sync your Palm. If the AddressBook and iCal on the Mac are "blank", and Sync Services has been reset, then a sync will just copy data from your Palm to the Mac, which is the goal at this point, is it not? This is pretty much how I got my Palm data onto the Mac at first. First sync will take a while, but I cannot see why it would take hours. After that, minutes at most. Regards, Lori From alan.schmitt at polytechnique.org Fri Jul 14 15:14:46 2006 From: alan.schmitt at polytechnique.org (Alan Schmitt) Date: Fri Jul 14 15:14:45 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Not synchronizing DateBk5 tags? In-Reply-To: <1ED0B996-ABD9-4088-9EBE-7FC20E10D3CD@markspace.com> References: <51BE4DCD-14E3-40E8-8E72-772D7A6CBB2C@polytechnique.org> <1ED0B996-ABD9-4088-9EBE-7FC20E10D3CD@markspace.com> Message-ID: <8E80B699-F670-42E0-9FBD-611F54C851A2@polytechnique.org> On 14 juil. 06, at 14:59, Brian M. Criscuolo wrote: > Alan, > > Unfortunately, to anything other than DateBk5, those tags are just > some characters in the note field. There are much better ways for > DateBk5 to store their application specific data ("blessed" by > Palm, and hidden from your view) that we would fully support and > not destroy if it was used. > > I'd push on the creators of DateBk5 to use Palm OS "blob" storage > for their PIM records. That way, everyone who has a conduit for the > PIM data wouldn't have to deal with it. I understand your position. Yet, these tags are some well defined strings, and I would find very helpful the possibility to have not them integrated into iCal. (Using a "blob" storage would not help my ultimate feature request, which is interpreting the contents of these fields.) I guess I could use some Applescript to avoid printing the notes from iCal, this is probably the way I'll explore next. Thanks a lot for taking the time to answer this question. Alan -- Alan Schmitt The hacker: someone who figured things out and made something cool happen. .O. ..O OOO From drtimhill at comcast.net Fri Jul 14 18:10:43 2006 From: drtimhill at comcast.net (Tim Hill) Date: Fri Jul 14 18:10:40 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Going on 24 hours of sync In-Reply-To: <98B14D9E-A74D-47A6-9C06-0B9D6E9C2F6C@mac.com> References: <72ECED9B-4BAF-4D2D-B8FD-CD651FA8DF4C@earthlink.net> <98B14D9E-A74D-47A6-9C06-0B9D6E9C2F6C@mac.com> Message-ID: <44B84093.5000306@comcast.net> This has got to be a huge bug in The Missing Sync -- there is just *no way* that any amount of data could take 24 hours on a modern PC. Let's do some math: Philip said he had 3 years of calendar info to sync. Let's assume 5 appointments every single day: that's roughly 1800 appointments. Now, 24 hours of sync is 86,400 seconds, which means 48 seconds per appointment!!! And it didn't even finish! Even assuming some horrible dinosaur data transfer model, I cannot see each appointment taking more than 2 seconds, tops (which, IMHO, is still 10x too slow). So being generous, this whole process should only have taken 3600 seconds, or 1 hour. More realistically, at about 10 appointments per second, it should only take about 5 minutes. IOW, something is very broken in The Missing Sync. --Tim Lori M Olson wrote: > On 14-Jul-06, at 3:20 PM, Philip Sandstrom wrote: > >> The M/S directions specifically state that there is no way to have >> the palm overwrite the desktop. > > That's not the whole story. There is no way "using Missing Sync". > But you can accomplish the desired result with a series of manual > steps, as one person posted. > > 1. Stop the sync that's been running for 24 hours. It's not ever > going to finish. > 1a. Reboot, just in case this "running forever" sync does not > properly stop. > 2. Wipe out your Mac AddressBook and iCal data (If anything in there > is important, BACK IT UP FIRST). > 3. Reset Sync Services > 4. Now sync your Palm. > > If the AddressBook and iCal on the Mac are "blank", and Sync Services > has been reset, then a sync will just copy data from your Palm to the > Mac, which is the goal at this point, is it not? > > This is pretty much how I got my Palm data onto the Mac at first. > First sync will take a while, but I cannot see why it would take > hours. After that, minutes at most. > > Regards, Lori > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your > subscribed email address to: > missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com > From luomat at gmail.com Fri Jul 14 18:54:39 2006 From: luomat at gmail.com (TjL) Date: Fri Jul 14 18:54:34 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Network Sync to Windows PC in Parallels? In-Reply-To: <7ebb24d10607101124m79023819v5e3fcfc40475e965@mail.gmail.com> References: <42FA6B30-E87D-4359-8ACC-9F25C1731777@markspace.com> <7ebb24d10607101124m79023819v5e3fcfc40475e965@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 7/10/06, Ben Steeves wrote: > On 7/9/06, Scott Gruby wrote: > > > I realize my answer may be a bit confusing, but what you're trying to > > do is a bit out of the ordinary and I believe it would be easiest for > > you to remove Missing Sync from the picture (by turning off the > > connections) and work directly with Parallels. > > I believe you're right -- I've synched to Windows via VMWare on Linux > boxes before and the objective is to get Linux as far out of the > picture as possible so that VMWare can "see" the Palm. I imagine it > would be quite similar with Parallels. The issue seems to be that I can't get WinXP to recognize the BT connection. I'll check that out on the Parallels forum. The Parallels support people seem to have exited en masse to a Jamaican vacation following the 1.0 release ;-/ From ben.steeves at unb.ca Fri Jul 14 19:53:20 2006 From: ben.steeves at unb.ca (Ben Steeves) Date: Fri Jul 14 19:53:16 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Network Sync to Windows PC in Parallels? In-Reply-To: References: <42FA6B30-E87D-4359-8ACC-9F25C1731777@markspace.com> <7ebb24d10607101124m79023819v5e3fcfc40475e965@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7ebb24d10607141953q4dd6f54ekc6c7267d1a0878ad@mail.gmail.com> On 7/14/06, TjL wrote: > The issue seems to be that I can't get WinXP to recognize the BT > connection. I'll check that out on the Parallels forum. Hm, last time I checked, Bluetooth required extra (device specific) drivers in XP, which might help explain why it's not behaving in Parallels (when I was running VMWare on my ThinkPad T30, I needed to install IBM's Bluetooth drivers from within VMWare for it to work). Why not try cabled synching instead? It should be easier to troubleshoot (not to mention faster). -- _ Ben Steeves bcs@metacon.ca ( ) The ASCII ribbon campaign ben.steeves@unb.ca X against HTML e-mail GPG ID: 0xB3EBF1D9 / \ http://www.metacon.ca/ascii Yahoo Messenger: ben_steeves From tendim at gmail.com Fri Jul 14 20:25:49 2006 From: tendim at gmail.com (tendim) Date: Fri Jul 14 20:25:44 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Confused: Missing Sync, iSync, Palm Desktop In-Reply-To: <44B66B49.4070301@comcast.net> References: <44B5E23F.5030305@comcast.net> <708B63B0-0851-4CF8-A231-3A711658B281@mac.com> <44B66B49.4070301@comcast.net> Message-ID: <28983f7c0607142025l5e7c403ah29cfe2231f2f77c1@mail.gmail.com> Don't forget, that you need OS X 10.4.x to take full advantage of TMS. If you are running 10.3.x you will get crippled functionality since the iSync technology in 10.3.x is lacking relative to 10.4.x. I was running 10.3.x and had to upgrade to 10.4.x to get all of the features TMS advertises. From plessard at mac.com Sat Jul 15 07:58:21 2006 From: plessard at mac.com (Pascal Lessard) Date: Sat Jul 15 07:58:18 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Going on 24 hours of sync In-Reply-To: <44B84093.5000306@comcast.net> References: <72ECED9B-4BAF-4D2D-B8FD-CD651FA8DF4C@earthlink.net> <98B14D9E-A74D-47A6-9C06-0B9D6E9C