From glenn at docproc.com Tue Aug 1 02:51:55 2006 From: glenn at docproc.com (Glenn Proctor) Date: Tue Aug 1 02:51:49 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Event syncing not working: NSInvalidArgumentException Message-ID: <15D59D88-14B0-4DC4-B2C0-7B5484A4A6F0@docproc.com> Hi I'm revisiting my previously abandoned (because of problems with iCal) attempts to sync my calendar with my Treo 650. This time around I'm only using iCal as an intermediary. My primary calendar is now Google Calendar. Here's my setup: - several calendars in Google Calendars - in iCal I've subscribed to the Google calendars. They show up and sync with Google perfectly. - in Missing Sync, I've set the Events conduit to "Desktop overwrites handheld". (I also tried "Synchronise" but that didn't work either...) - I have an iCal writeable calendar called "Palm" and I've set the conduit to put events created on the Palm into it. In the conduit log I see the following: Sync starting at 01/08/2006 10:38 (10:38:23) on USB (5.1.0) NSInvalidArgumentException *** -[NSCFArray addObject:]: attempt to insert nil It looks like the conduit is crashing immediately; syncs with just this conduit selected complete almost instantaneously, and no data is ever syncronised to or from the Palm. I've tried just syncing a trivial (4-event) iCal calendar, and get the same result. Any suggestions? Regards Glenn. From 2001as at adelphia.net Tue Aug 1 04:41:46 2006 From: 2001as at adelphia.net (Tony DeL uca) Date: Tue Aug 1 04:41:06 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Slow Unreliable Sync Message-ID: Hi, My brother and I both have two separate registered copies of The Missing Sync for Palm OS running on two different Mac's linked together on the same network. Mine run's great! His is riddled with problems. When I sync mine, it takes about 18 seconds to complete the sync. When he sync's his it takes about 25 minutes. Most of the time it just hangs. Now, when he first installed it, it ran fine. Then he noticed that his wi-fi on his Palm TX stopped working, so I told him to Hard reset his Palm, which fixed the Wi-Fi problem, then to restore the backup he made to his card with MegaLauncher to fix the problem. As soon as he restored the Palm from his card, the nightmares started. We have uninstalled every bit of Palm and Missing Sync elements we can find, and then re-installed The MIssing Sync, but no luck. Syncing is still broke. We then tried to Boot off his external drive, and install The Missing Sync on that drive only to find that it would not install half of the conduits. I noticed he was running Mac OS 10.4 on that drive , and the minimum seems to be 10.4.3. Perhaps that's why only half of the conduits would install. He's running 10.4.7 on his internal, and had zeroed out his drive only a couple of weeks before. At this stage were totally lost. If you know of some file in OS 10.4.7 that might be corrupt, or some file that The missing Sync put's in that is corrupt that somehow we have missed, then please let us know. He is extremely disappointed in the product thus far. The thing I can't understand, is it ran fine for days. Please help soon! From glenn at docproc.com Tue Aug 1 05:29:25 2006 From: glenn at docproc.com (Glenn Proctor) Date: Tue Aug 1 05:29:21 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Event syncing not working: NSInvalidArgumentException In-Reply-To: <15D59D88-14B0-4DC4-B2C0-7B5484A4A6F0@docproc.com> References: <15D59D88-14B0-4DC4-B2C0-7B5484A4A6F0@docproc.com> Message-ID: <2F79DAB5-24F0-4DB0-834F-47B5BCA751F7@docproc.com> OK, some progress: I selected "Reset Sync History" in iSync, and now I get a small, random selection of events correctly synchronised before the following error appears: ------------------------------------------------------------------ Sync starting at 01/08/2006 13:27 (13:27:33) on USB (5.1.0) NSInvalidArgumentException *** -[NSCFDictionary setObject:forKey:]: attempt to insert nil value OK Mark/Space Events with 1 message(s) Sync completed successfully at 01/08/2006 13:28 (13:28:13) Is there anything else I can do? Glenn. From mashuganah at iwon.com Tue Aug 1 06:21:11 2006 From: mashuganah at iwon.com (mashuganah@iwon.com) Date: Tue Aug 1 06:21:04 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Treo Upgrade Message-ID: <20060801132111.AFE73E520@email.iwon.com> I'm moving from a Kycoera 7135 to a Treo 650. I did not find instructions in the knowledge base for this transition. Missing Sync 5.1 is on my Mac. The Treo CD wants to install the Palm sync software on my Mac. How do I get the Treo conduit without messing up my Missing Sync installation? Greg _______________________________________________ From hess2 at yacht.com Tue Aug 1 07:11:50 2006 From: hess2 at yacht.com (Paul List Hess) Date: Tue Aug 1 07:15:57 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Feature Suggestion: PreSync snapshots In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 6:26 PM -0700 7/29/06, Scott Gruby wrote: >You might just try running it again instead of re-installing. The problem is that our conduit times out after a few minutes (maybe 15) and unregisters itself. The reason it times out is that everything else is taking a huge amount of time to sync and we have no idea if the sync is working or hung, so we just have to sit around until it is done. Instead of leaving you hanging for hours, we timeout and unregister the conduit. (Unregistering just means that we're going to try again fresh the next time you try to sync.) Well I am generally able to sync now most of the time, although it still often takes a long time while MS coordinates with all my other sources to get everything synchronized before sending to the Treo. I notice other people are also having speed issues. I'd like to see an option where MS will do all it's preparations (pulling, mingling, co-mingling, etc) on a regular schedule and take a snapshot of those results. Then when I sync to my Treo it can sync very quickly to that most recent snapshot without all the waiting and effort and failures. From sgruby at markspace.com Tue Aug 1 07:29:15 2006 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Tue Aug 1 07:29:12 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Event syncing not working: NSInvalidArgumentException In-Reply-To: <2F79DAB5-24F0-4DB0-834F-47B5BCA751F7@docproc.com> References: <15D59D88-14B0-4DC4-B2C0-7B5484A4A6F0@docproc.com> <2F79DAB5-24F0-4DB0-834F-47B5BCA751F7@docproc.com> Message-ID: <41E3C288-B176-4F41-94E6-757564039AFA@markspace.com> On Aug 1, 2006, at 5:29 AM, Glenn Proctor wrote: > OK, some progress: I selected "Reset Sync History" in iSync, and > now I get a small, > random selection of events correctly synchronised before the > following error appears: > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Sync starting at 01/08/2006 13:27 (13:27:33) on USB (5.1.0) > NSInvalidArgumentException *** -[NSCFDictionary setObject:forKey:]: > attempt to insert nil value > OK Mark/Space Events with 1 message(s) > Sync completed successfully at 01/08/2006 13:28 (13:28:13) > > > Is there anything else I can do? > As I mentioned the other day, the issue is likely with your Google calendar. Please see: -- Scott Gruby Mark/Space, Inc. Please visit for assistance with Mark/Space products. From glenn at docproc.com Tue Aug 1 08:14:57 2006 From: glenn at docproc.com (Glenn Proctor) Date: Tue Aug 1 08:14:50 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Event syncing not working: NSInvalidArgumentException In-Reply-To: <41E3C288-B176-4F41-94E6-757564039AFA@markspace.com> References: <15D59D88-14B0-4DC4-B2C0-7B5484A4A6F0@docproc.com> <2F79DAB5-24F0-4DB0-834F-47B5BCA751F7@docproc.com> <41E3C288-B176-4F41-94E6-757564039AFA@markspace.com> Message-ID: On 1 Aug 2006, at 15:29, Scott Gruby wrote: > > As I mentioned the other day, the issue is likely with your Google > calendar. Please see: > > July/008429.html> I've only just re-subscribed to the list and didn't spot this message in the archive, apologies for the duplicate. You're right, it's definitely something to do with repeating events. I turned on verbose logging for the Event conduit (I'm familiar with this from my previous adventures with iCal syncing!) and the record right before the crash was a repeating event. I deleted it and the subsequent sync proceeded without a crash. However no repeating events at all are synchronised. I can live with this situation until the next release of MS, which I look forward to. Regards Glenn. From mashuganah at iwon.com Tue Aug 1 13:56:13 2006 From: mashuganah at iwon.com (mashuganah@iwon.com) Date: Tue Aug 1 13:56:10 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] List Question Message-ID: <20060801205613.AE04839E8@email.iwon.com> I submitted a question to the list and my e-mail address was published in the message table of contents even though the sign-up directions said it would not be. I noticed that other's e-mail addresses were not published. What's up with that? _______________________________________________ From matthew.groves at uscm.org Tue Aug 1 13:59:41 2006 From: matthew.groves at uscm.org (Matthew and Cathy Groves) Date: Tue Aug 1 13:59:47 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] The future of categories? In-Reply-To: <20060801205613.AE04839E8@email.iwon.com> Message-ID: Anyone have any info on the future of categories in this whole pda/mac/entourage saga? I dream of a world where I can still use categories and sync BOTH my icall/address book/entourage instead of just one or the other. I can dream, can't I? From DavidTurley at pobox.com Tue Aug 1 14:15:39 2006 From: DavidTurley at pobox.com (David Turley) Date: Tue Aug 1 14:15:34 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] List Question In-Reply-To: <20060801205613.AE04839E8@email.iwon.com> References: <20060801205613.AE04839E8@email.iwon.com> Message-ID: <8426224B-5A9E-4DCD-B771-52F209D830DD@pobox.com> Looks like you may have misconfigured your email client. It appears that your email address is entered in field where your name should be. > > I submitted a question to the list and my e-mail address was > published in the message table of contents even though the sign-up > directions said it would not be. I noticed that other's e-mail > addresses were not published. > > What's up with that? > From nettid1 at yahoo.co.uk Tue Aug 1 14:43:07 2006 From: nettid1 at yahoo.co.uk (zoara) Date: Tue Aug 1 14:42:42 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Folder Sync - is this expected behaviour? Message-ID: <1hjexez.1rh29gmokk5fkM%nettid1@yahoo.co.uk> Folder Sync doesn't work as I'd expect. If I select the root of the card to overwrite (say) ~/card then every file and folder on my card ends up in ~/card and the folder heirarchy is lost. I'd expect the heirarchy to be carried over, but it isn't. On the card: /foo/fred.gif /bar/barney.jpg On my Mac: ~/card/bar ~/card/barney.jpg ~/card/foo ~/card/fred.gif The two image files have been orphaned out of their parent folders. Is this the way it's supposed to work? It seems to make very little sense to me. Why does the source recurse into folders but the destination not? Thanks, -zoara- -- From missing at biggerhammer.org Wed Aug 2 12:19:14 2006 From: missing at biggerhammer.org (missing@biggerhammer.org) Date: Wed Aug 2 12:19:07 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: List question In-Reply-To: <200608021910.k72JAFM5029598@sparrow.markspace.com> References: <200608021910.k72JAFM5029598@sparrow.markspace.com> Message-ID: <01B6FBD9-9A7A-402F-A278-4FD6BA70CA1B@biggerhammer.org> In my experience on this list, email addresses are ALWAYS published. This is to my dismay, as I have received SPAM to the email address I use solely on this list. I reviewed about 8 of the last Digests and found EVERY single post displayed the senders email address. > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 17:15:39 -0400 > From: David Turley > Subject: Re: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] List Question > To: mashuganah@iwon.com, "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Palm OS\) Discussion > List" > Message-ID: <8426224B-5A9E-4DCD-B771-52F209D830DD@pobox.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed > > Looks like you may have misconfigured your email client. It appears > that your email address is entered in field where your name should be. > > > > >> >> I submitted a question to the list and my e-mail address was >> published in the message table of contents even though the sign-up >> directions said it would not be. I noticed that other's e-mail >> addresses were not published. >> >> What's up with that? >> From sgruby at markspace.com Wed Aug 2 12:31:09 2006 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Wed Aug 2 12:31:03 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: List question In-Reply-To: <01B6FBD9-9A7A-402F-A278-4FD6BA70CA1B@biggerhammer.org> References: <200608021910.k72JAFM5029598@sparrow.markspace.com> <01B6FBD9-9A7A-402F-A278-4FD6BA70CA1B@biggerhammer.org> Message-ID: <64C2074C-B705-4421-A590-9F423B0F763B@markspace.com> On Aug 2, 2006, at 12:19 PM, missing@biggerhammer.org wrote: > In my experience on this list, email addresses are ALWAYS > published. This is to my dismay, as I have received SPAM to the > email address I use solely on this list. I reviewed about 8 of the > last Digests and found EVERY single post displayed the senders > email address. > The email addresses are masked in the archives. We use the Mailman mailing list software and whatever options are available, we can use. If you have a better suggestion for a mailing list program, please let us know. Thanks. -- Scott Gruby Mark/Space, Inc. Please visit for assistance with Mark/Space products. From robynphillips at email.com Wed Aug 2 23:39:37 2006 From: robynphillips at email.com (Robyn Phillips) Date: Fri Aug 4 00:20:30 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: Palm Desktop to Apple-Mark/Space apps? In-Reply-To: <16C09723-1116-4339-9103-959521234EB4@gmail.com> Message-ID: on 12/7/06 03:45, MikeG wrote: > I've been following the discussion on Missing Sync 5 since its > release, waiting for the initial flood of problems to subside. It > seemed that the app has become fairly stable with the release of 5.1. > > I'm ready to upgrade from version 4. But I am stumped as to the best > way to do this. > > The bulk of my data is in Palm Desktop. Some of it is in Address > Book. A small amount in iCal. But I understand that proper procedure > is you have to have all your information in Address Book and iCal and > overwrite the Palm on the first sync. > > Has anyone got any tips on how best to do this? Is it as simple as > exporting all your Palm Desktop items as their various .vcf, .vcal > formats? What about the memos? They go that Mark/Space Memo app, > right? How? > > Then I suppose it's important to get your iCal data into the > calendars, and make sure your Address Book categories are as you > want. But since I've got categories in Palm Desktop, isn't there some > way to preserve them as I transfer to the iCal/Address Book/Memo app? > > I'd really appreciate some pointers on the best way to do this, so I > can successfully transition to the Apple-Mark/Space apps and finally > leave that inadequate Palm Desktop behind. > Hi Mike, I am using Missing Sync 5 with Palm Desktop. Although Palm Desktop has not been updated for the Mac in a long while, and unlikely to, it still does an acceptable job, even though it is a basic program. The one advantage I think Palm Desktop has over iCal and Address Book is that I can choose handheld overwrites desktop if necessary. I understand that you may want to migrate across to iCal and Address Book, but please be aware that it is not compulsory to do this to use Missing Syn 5. Robyn From mbizer at mail.utexas.edu Fri Aug 4 00:30:35 2006 From: mbizer at mail.utexas.edu (Marc Bizer) Date: Fri Aug 4 00:30:33 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: Palm Desktop to Apple-Mark/Space apps? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 8/3/06 at 4:39 PM +1000, MikeG wrote: >The bulk of my data is in Palm Desktop. Some of it is in Address >Book. A small amount in iCal. But I understand that proper procedure >is you have to have all your information in Address Book and iCal >and overwrite the Palm on the first sync. Has anyone got any tips on >how best to do this? Is it as simple as exporting all your Palm >Desktop items as their various .vcf, .vcal formats? That will definitely work for the addresses (although the categories won't be preserved), but the simplest way to get everything into iCal is simply to use the iSync conduit with Palm Desktop. >What about the memos? They go that Mark/Space Memo app, right? How? You set that conduit to do "Handheld overwrites Desktop" >Then I suppose it's important to get your iCal data into the >calendars, and make sure your Address Book categories are as you >want. But since I've got categories in Palm Desktop, isn't there >some way to preserve them as I transfer to the iCal/Address >Book/Memo app? I don't think so. --Marc From missingsync at quantentunnel.de Fri Aug 4 22:40:41 2006 From: missingsync at quantentunnel.de (Martin) Date: Fri Aug 4 22:41:13 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: List question In-Reply-To: <64C2074C-B705-4421-A590-9F423B0F763B@markspace.com> Message-ID: Make one of those forums like all the other companies do. With avatars, search function, etc. > If you have a better suggestion for a mailing > list program, please let us know. Martin From missingsync at quantentunnel.de Fri Aug 4 22:47:29 2006 From: missingsync at quantentunnel.de (Martin) Date: Fri Aug 4 22:47:52 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Slow Unreliable Sync In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hello Tony -- you say your sync is fine. Do you also run OS 10.47 like your brother? I'm just wondering -- maybe it has to do with the upgrade from 10.46 to 10.47... > He's running 10.4.7 on his internal Martin From chrisridd at mac.com Fri Aug 4 23:27:21 2006 From: chrisridd at mac.com (Chris Ridd) Date: Fri Aug 4 23:27:18 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: List question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 5/8/06 6:40, Martin wrote: > Make one of those forums like all the other companies do. With avatars, > search function, etc. Please don't; those interfaces are probably *the* worst way to communicate threaded conversations. This mailing list is working Just Fine. Cheers, Chris From bonnar at sleepyhudson.com Sat Aug 5 19:10:07 2006 From: bonnar at sleepyhudson.com (Paul Bonnar) Date: Sat Aug 5 19:10:32 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] sync help Message-ID: OSX 10.4.7 Palm Desktop 4.2.1 Verizon Treo 650 I've managed to get all my events, tasks and contacts into palm desktop but have been unable to get them into iCal or Address Book using iSync. My goal is to use Missing Sync, Treo 650 and iCal, Address Book and Mark/Space Memo Pad. I can't get the data any further than the Palm Desktop though. This despite hours of phone support from Apple and Palm. Could be that I'm trying to do too many things at once: just switched to Mac from PC and successfully brought all email and contacts from Outlook to Entourage. Could not get Entourage to sync with the Treo using the Entourage built-in sync. So I decided to switch to MacMail, iCal and Address Book with Missing Sync but I just can't get it set up! If I can just get the Palm Desktop data into the Mac apps I think I can follow the Missing Sync directions in the Manual. Can anyone walk me through this? Thanks Paul From mms72mail-lists at yahoo.com Sat Aug 5 19:51:34 2006 From: mms72mail-lists at yahoo.com (Michelle Salois) Date: Sat Aug 5 19:51:29 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] sync help In-Reply-To: Message-ID: As far as I know the only path from Pdesktop is to have Missing sync set to "palm overwrites desktop" when syncing to the Apple Aps. Michelle S On 8/5/06 9:10 PM, "Paul Bonnar" wrote: > OSX 10.4.7 > Palm Desktop 4.2.1 > Verizon Treo 650 > > I've managed to get all my events, tasks and contacts into palm > desktop but have been unable to get them into iCal or Address Book > using iSync. My goal is to use Missing Sync, Treo 650 and iCal, > Address Book and Mark/Space Memo Pad. I can't get the data any > further than the Palm Desktop though. This despite hours of phone > support from Apple and Palm. > Could be that I'm trying to do too many things at once: just switched > to Mac from PC and successfully brought all email and contacts from > Outlook to Entourage. Could not get Entourage to sync with the Treo > using the Entourage built-in sync. So I decided to switch to MacMail, > iCal and Address Book with Missing Sync but I just can't get it set > up! If I can just get the Palm Desktop data into the Mac apps I think > I can follow the Missing Sync directions in the Manual. > Can anyone walk me through this? > Thanks > Paul > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your subscribed email > address to: > missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com From mashuganah at iwon.com Sat Aug 5 21:54:39 2006 From: mashuganah at iwon.com (mashuganah@iwon.com) Date: Sat Aug 5 21:54:38 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] MemoPad Export? Message-ID: <20060806045439.7285339F2@email.iwon.com> When I changed Palm devices I created a new Palm user account per Mark/Space's advice to avoid importing incompatible software to my new Treo 650. However, all my memos are stored under my old Palm user account name in Mark/Space MemoPad (i.e., there are no memos in MemoPad under my new device name and the old ones do not import to my Treo via sync because the device name is different). How do I get my notes to my new device? There does not appear to be an export feature whereby I could import them under the new account name. Greg _______________________________________________ From Patricia at PatriciaWarwick.com Sun Aug 6 05:23:03 2006 From: Patricia at PatriciaWarwick.com (Patricia Warwick) Date: Sun Aug 6 05:22:58 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] sync help In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 5-Aug-06, at 10:10 PM, Paul Bonnar wrote: > OSX 10.4.7 > Palm Desktop 4.2.1 > Verizon Treo 650 > > I've managed to get all my events, tasks and contacts into palm > desktop but have been unable to get them into iCal or Address Book > using iSync. My goal is to use Missing Sync, Treo 650 and iCal, > Address Book and Mark/Space Memo Pad. I can't get the data any > further than the Palm Desktop though. This despite hours of phone > support from Apple and Palm. > Could be that I'm trying to do too many things at once: just > switched to Mac from PC and successfully brought all email and > contacts from Outlook to Entourage. Could not get Entourage to sync > with the Treo using the Entourage built-in sync. So I decided to > switch to MacMail, iCal and Address Book with Missing Sync but I > just can't get it set up! If I can just get the Palm Desktop data > into the Mac apps I think I can follow the Missing Sync directions > in the Manual. I may be misunderstanding your question but. if not, I would sync the Palm Desktop to the Palm first (using the HotSync Manager) and then disable the HotSync Manager and enable Missing Sync and MS's conduits for the Apple apps ... and then the next time you run Missing Sync it should upload the data in the Palm into the empty Apple databases (iCal and Address Book). From taryn at merrickmgt.com Sun Aug 6 18:19:16 2006 From: taryn at merrickmgt.com (Taryn Merrick) Date: Sun Aug 6 18:19:14 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] iCAL color coding issues Message-ID: I have 4 color coded calendars on my iCAL and set up corresponding color coded calendars on my Treo 650. Yet..when I do a sync using Missing Sync, the color coding does not fall into place. I only see certain things when I select "all" or "unfiled"...Any hints as to why? Best, Taryn === Taryn Merrick Virtual Assistant For Entrepreneurs/Small Business Owners/Consultants Merrick Management And Media Services | www.merrickmgt.com 615.349.2025 | info@merrickmgt.com This message contains privileged and confidential information and is intended only for the individual or entity named above. If you or your company is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify us. Thank You. From taryn at merrickmgt.com Sun Aug 6 18:21:31 2006 From: taryn at merrickmgt.com (Taryn Merrick) Date: Sun Aug 6 18:21:23 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] iCAL color coding issues Message-ID: <4e5b281b7d60dd7cc983a6b8bc492fa4@merrickmgt.com> PS - I am running OSX 10.3.9, does this function only work for Tiger? ====== I have 4 color coded calendars on my iCAL and set up corresponding color coded calendars on my Treo 650. Yet..when I do a sync using Missing Sync, the color coding does not fall into place. I only see certain things when I select "all" or "unfiled"...Any hints as to why? Best, Taryn === Taryn Merrick Virtual Assistant For Entrepreneurs/Small Business Owners/Consultants Merrick Management And Media Services | www.merrickmgt.com 615.349.2025 | info@merrickmgt.com This message contains privileged and confidential information and is intended only for the individual or entity named above. If you or your company is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify us. Thank You. From bonnar at sleepyhudson.com Sun Aug 6 19:31:30 2006 From: bonnar at sleepyhudson.com (Paul Bonnar) Date: Sun Aug 6 19:31:55 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] sync help In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <533FEA5B-6EEF-4BAE-89AD-05AFBFDFA775@sleepyhudson.com> Thanks Patricia: I followed your suggestion but many events are still on the Treo and are not syncing into iCal. I will just live with it as I can't find any reason why they won't sync. On Aug 6, 2006, at 8:23 AM, Patricia Warwick wrote: On 5-Aug-06, at 10:10 PM, Paul Bonnar wrote: > OSX 10.4.7 > Palm Desktop 4.2.1 > Verizon Treo 650 > > I've managed to get all my events, tasks and contacts into palm > desktop but have been unable to get them into iCal or Address Book > using iSync. My goal is to use Missing Sync, Treo 650 and iCal, > Address Book and Mark/Space Memo Pad. I can't get the data any > further than the Palm Desktop though. This despite hours of phone > support from Apple and Palm. > Could be that I'm trying to do too many things at once: just > switched to Mac from PC and successfully brought all email and > contacts from Outlook to Entourage. Could not get Entourage to sync > with the Treo using the Entourage built-in sync. So I decided to > switch to MacMail, iCal and Address Book with Missing Sync but I > just can't get it set up! If I can just get the Palm Desktop data > into the Mac apps I think I can follow the Missing Sync directions > in the Manual. I may be misunderstanding your question but. if not, I would sync the Palm Desktop to the Palm first (using the HotSync Manager) and then disable the HotSync Manager and enable Missing Sync and MS's conduits for the Apple apps ... and then the next time you run Missing Sync it should upload the data in the Palm into the empty Apple databases (iCal and Address Book). _______________________________________________ missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your subscribed email address to: missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com J Paul Bonnar Sleepy Hudson LLC 261 Madison Avenue Suite 1504 New York NY 10016 T: 212 867 0800 F: 212 867 1542 M: 917 575 4188 bonnar@sleepyhudson.com www.highline519.com From missingsync at quantentunnel.de Sun Aug 6 22:44:52 2006 From: missingsync at quantentunnel.de (Martin) Date: Sun Aug 6 22:45:38 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: List question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: vBulletin 3.60 forums offer the ability to subscribe via RSS. > those interfaces are probably *the* worst Martin From bonnar at sleepyhudson.com Mon Aug 7 08:11:45 2006 From: bonnar at sleepyhudson.com (Paul Bonnar) Date: Mon Aug 7 08:12:12 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] New events in Treo 650 won't sync Message-ID: <27E8AA38-0B4A-4121-9E4F-85811759BE25@sleepyhudson.com> Following up from a previous question: I have MS set up so that the only active conduits are M/S Contacts and M/S events. When I add an event to either the Treo or iCal it will not sync in either direction. I'm feeling really stupid at this point - is there some basic setting that I just need to check or uncheck? Paul J Paul Bonnar Sleepy Hudson LLC 261 Madison Avenue Suite 1504 New York NY 10016 T: 212 867 0800 F: 212 867 1542 M: 917 575 4188 bonnar@sleepyhudson.com www.highline519.com From Patricia at PatriciaWarwick.com Mon Aug 7 08:36:40 2006 From: Patricia at PatriciaWarwick.com (Patricia Warwick) Date: Mon Aug 7 08:36:32 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] New events in Treo 650 won't sync In-Reply-To: <27E8AA38-0B4A-4121-9E4F-85811759BE25@sleepyhudson.com> References: <27E8AA38-0B4A-4121-9E4F-85811759BE25@sleepyhudson.com> Message-ID: Have you checked the settings for the events conduit? It should be set to synchronize All calendars (at least initially - I exclude some calendars.) The calendar corresponds to a category in the Palm. The same applies to contacts. I also have the Tasks conduit enabled. On 7-Aug-06, at 11:11 AM, Paul Bonnar wrote: > Following up from a previous question: > I have MS set up so that the only active conduits are M/S Contacts > and M/S events. > When I add an event to either the Treo or iCal it will not sync in > either direction. > I'm feeling really stupid at this point - is there some basic > setting that I just need to check or uncheck? > Paul > > > J Paul Bonnar > Sleepy Hudson LLC > 261 Madison Avenue Suite 1504 > New York NY 10016 > T: 212 867 0800 > F: 212 867 1542 > M: 917 575 4188 > bonnar@sleepyhudson.com > www.highline519.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your > subscribed email address to: > missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com From bonnar at sleepyhudson.com Mon Aug 7 09:05:22 2006 From: bonnar at sleepyhudson.com (Paul Bonnar) Date: Mon Aug 7 09:05:47 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] New events in Treo 650 won't sync In-Reply-To: References: <27E8AA38-0B4A-4121-9E4F-85811759BE25@sleepyhudson.com> Message-ID: <83F2AED2-9B34-4CFB-8C0F-3C2835691846@sleepyhudson.com> Yes, the events conduit is set to sync all calendars. I just noticed that none of my Palm categories are showing up in M/S events. Is this supposed to be automatic? I added a category to the Palm that matches one in M/S events and vice versa, put an event into each with those categories and ran a sync but nothing crosses over between the Palm and M/S events. On Aug 7, 2006, at 11:36 AM, Patricia Warwick wrote: Have you checked the settings for the events conduit? It should be set to synchronize All calendars (at least initially - I exclude some calendars.) The calendar corresponds to a category in the Palm. The same applies to contacts. I also have the Tasks conduit enabled. On 7-Aug-06, at 11:11 AM, Paul Bonnar wrote: > Following up from a previous question: > I have MS set up so that the only active conduits are M/S Contacts > and M/S events. > When I add an event to either the Treo or iCal it will not sync in > either direction. > I'm feeling really stupid at this point - is there some basic > setting that I just need to check or uncheck? > Paul > > > J Paul Bonnar > Sleepy Hudson LLC > 261 Madison Avenue Suite 1504 > New York NY 10016 > T: 212 867 0800 > F: 212 867 1542 > M: 917 575 4188 > bonnar@sleepyhudson.com > www.highline519.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your > subscribed email address to: > missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com _______________________________________________ missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your subscribed email address to: missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com J Paul Bonnar Sleepy Hudson LLC 261 Madison Avenue Suite 1504 New York NY 10016 T: 212 867 0800 F: 212 867 1542 M: 917 575 4188 bonnar@sleepyhudson.com www.highline519.com From harryo43 at yahoo.com Mon Aug 7 09:40:53 2006 From: harryo43 at yahoo.com (Harry Flaxman) Date: Mon Aug 7 09:40:45 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] sync help In-Reply-To: <533FEA5B-6EEF-4BAE-89AD-05AFBFDFA775@sleepyhudson.com> Message-ID: <20060807164053.62918.qmail@web53811.mail.yahoo.com> I have had the same problem with my Sony CLIE since I've owned missing synch. Basically all my synchs do are install things. Nothing else seems to work. I have Entourage and that's never worked. Harry --- Paul Bonnar wrote: > Thanks Patricia: > I followed your suggestion but many events are still > on the Treo and > are not syncing into iCal. I will just live with it > as I can't find > any reason why they won't sync. > > On Aug 6, 2006, at 8:23 AM, Patricia Warwick wrote: > > > On 5-Aug-06, at 10:10 PM, Paul Bonnar wrote: > > > OSX 10.4.7 > > Palm Desktop 4.2.1 > > Verizon Treo 650 > > > > I've managed to get all my events, tasks and > contacts into palm > > desktop but have been unable to get them into iCal > or Address Book > > using iSync. My goal is to use Missing Sync, Treo > 650 and iCal, > > Address Book and Mark/Space Memo Pad. I can't get > the data any > > further than the Palm Desktop though. This despite > hours of phone > > support from Apple and Palm. > > Could be that I'm trying to do too many things at > once: just > > switched to Mac from PC and successfully brought > all email and > > contacts from Outlook to Entourage. Could not get > Entourage to sync > > with the Treo using the Entourage built-in sync. > So I decided to > > switch to MacMail, iCal and Address Book with > Missing Sync but I > > just can't get it set up! If I can just get the > Palm Desktop data > > into the Mac apps I think I can follow the Missing > Sync directions > > in the Manual. > I may be misunderstanding your question but. if not, > I would sync the > Palm Desktop to the Palm first (using the HotSync > Manager) and then > disable the HotSync Manager and enable Missing Sync > and MS's conduits > for the Apple apps ... and then the next time you > run Missing Sync it > should upload the data in the Palm into the empty > Apple databases > (iCal and Address Book). > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) > from your > subscribed email address to: > missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com > > > > J Paul Bonnar > Sleepy Hudson LLC > 261 Madison Avenue Suite 1504 > New York NY 10016 > T: 212 867 0800 > F: 212 867 1542 > M: 917 575 4188 > bonnar@sleepyhudson.com > www.highline519.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) > from your subscribed email address to: > missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com > ____________________ Harry Flaxman Dual G5's Rule! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From walter at natural-innovations.com Mon Aug 7 13:50:49 2006 From: walter at natural-innovations.com (Walter Ian Kaye) Date: Mon Aug 7 13:50:27 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: List question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 07:27a +0100 08/05/2006, Chris Ridd didst inscribe upon an electronic papyrus: >On 5/8/06 6:40, Martin wrote: > >> Make one of those forums like all the other companies do. With avatars, >> search function, etc. > >Please don't; those interfaces are probably *the* worst way to communicate >threaded conversations. I prefer the kind of bulletin boards that do *not* thread. Fixed category/topic so the board becomes one of those "living FAQ"-type resources. Threaded boards may be more organic and fun for shootin' the breeze, but they are totally useless as any kind of technical resource. (I miss GEnie.) >This mailing list is working Just Fine. And also, with emails saved on your own computer you can look up answers even if you're away from a 'Net connection. :-) From Patricia at PatriciaWarwick.com Mon Aug 7 14:53:43 2006 From: Patricia at PatriciaWarwick.com (Patricia Warwick) Date: Mon Aug 7 14:53:40 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] New events in Treo 650 won't sync In-Reply-To: <83F2AED2-9B34-4CFB-8C0F-3C2835691846@sleepyhudson.com> References: <27E8AA38-0B4A-4121-9E4F-85811759BE25@sleepyhudson.com> <83F2AED2-9B34-4CFB-8C0F-3C2835691846@sleepyhudson.com> Message-ID: <35B3A7A5-EE47-4F9A-AC66-04032E755315@PatriciaWarwick.com> Back to basics ... excuse me if I ask something you already answered ... When you start the sync (on the Treo) does it start Missing Sync? If it does have you looked in the log for any error messages? How are you syncing? I do not have a Treo but I presume that you can use a wireless method and a wired method. Do you have more than one profile set up. (I have a Bluetooth profile and a USB profile.) When you sync which profile is being used? Do any of your conduits work? On 7-Aug-06, at 12:05 PM, Paul Bonnar wrote: > Yes, the events conduit is set to sync all calendars. I just > noticed that none of my Palm categories are showing up in M/S > events. Is this supposed to be automatic? I added a category to the > Palm that matches one in M/S events and vice versa, put an event > into each with those categories and ran a sync but nothing crosses > over between the Palm and M/S events. > > On Aug 7, 2006, at 11:36 AM, Patricia Warwick wrote: > > Have you checked the settings for the events conduit? It should be > set to synchronize All calendars (at least initially - I exclude > some calendars.) The calendar corresponds to a category in the > Palm. The same applies to contacts. I also have the Tasks conduit > enabled. > > On 7-Aug-06, at 11:11 AM, Paul Bonnar wrote: > >> Following up from a previous question: >> I have MS set up so that the only active conduits are M/S Contacts >> and M/S events. >> When I add an event to either the Treo or iCal it will not sync in >> either direction. >> I'm feeling really stupid at this point - is there some basic >> setting that I just need to check or uncheck? >> Paul >> >> >> J Paul Bonnar >> Sleepy Hudson LLC >> 261 Madison Avenue Suite 1504 >> New York NY 10016 >> T: 212 867 0800 >> F: 212 867 1542 >> M: 917 575 4188 >> bonnar@sleepyhudson.com >> www.highline519.com >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >> To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your >> subscribed email address to: >> missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your > subscribed email address to: > missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com > > > > J Paul Bonnar > Sleepy Hudson LLC > 261 Madison Avenue Suite 1504 > New York NY 10016 > T: 212 867 0800 > F: 212 867 1542 > M: 917 575 4188 > bonnar@sleepyhudson.com > www.highline519.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your > subscribed email address to: > missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com From walton at telus.net Mon Aug 7 22:16:39 2006 From: walton at telus.net (Lorne Walton) Date: Mon Aug 7 22:16:49 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] How to edit a Profile that can't be selected Message-ID: When I choose my "All but ePocrates" profile, a dialog informs me that the profile contains a conduit that is not available, and that the profile needs to be edited. When this happens, the selected profile changes to "No profile" intead of "All but ePocrates". How do I edit "All but ePocrates" when I cannot select it? "All but ePocrates" worked until the last week or two. I've just installed Apple's Security Update 2006-004...? (MacOS X 10.4.7) Thanks. -- "Never express yourself more clearly than you are able to think." [Niels Bohr] Lorne Walton, Maple Ridge, BC, Canada From sgruby at markspace.com Mon Aug 7 22:24:38 2006 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Mon Aug 7 22:24:42 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] How to edit a Profile that can't be selected In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2B58CCD5-12FB-4B4D-9053-4B24DDA7192C@markspace.com> On Aug 7, 2006, at 10:16 PM, Lorne Walton wrote: > When I choose my "All but ePocrates" profile, a dialog informs me > that the profile contains a conduit that is not available, and that > the profile needs to be edited. > > When this happens, the selected profile changes to "No profile" > intead of "All but ePocrates". How do I edit "All but ePocrates" > when I cannot select it? > From the profiles menu, choose Edit Profiles and then select your All but ePocrates. This should then allow you to edit it. > "All but ePocrates" worked until the last week or two. I've just > installed Apple's Security Update 2006-004...? (MacOS X 10.4.7) -- Scott Gruby Mark/Space, Inc. Please visit for assistance with Mark/Space products. From walton at telus.net Mon Aug 7 23:01:40 2006 From: walton at telus.net (Lorne Walton) Date: Mon Aug 7 23:01:47 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] How to edit a Profile that can't be selected In-Reply-To: <2B58CCD5-12FB-4B4D-9053-4B24DDA7192C@markspace.com> References: <2B58CCD5-12FB-4B4D-9053-4B24DDA7192C@markspace.com> Message-ID: At 22:24 -0700 7/8/06, Scott Gruby wrote: >>When I choose my "All but ePocrates" profile, a dialog informs me >>that the profile contains a conduit that is not available, and that >>the profile needs to be edited. >> >>When this happens, the selected profile changes to "No profile" >>intead of "All but ePocrates". How do I edit "All but ePocrates" >>when I cannot select it? >> > >From the profiles menu, choose Edit Profiles and then select your >All but ePocrates. This should then allow you to edit it. Scott, thank you. It really is that easy! How embarrassing! But... when I do arrive at the option to edit my "All but ePocrates" profile, how can I tell which conduit it is to which the dialog refers? -- "Never express yourself more clearly than you are able to think." [Niels Bohr] Lorne Walton, Maple Ridge, BC, Canada From sgruby at markspace.com Mon Aug 7 23:03:40 2006 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Mon Aug 7 23:03:46 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] How to edit a Profile that can't be selected In-Reply-To: References: <2B58CCD5-12FB-4B4D-9053-4B24DDA7192C@markspace.com> Message-ID: On Aug 7, 2006, at 11:01 PM, Lorne Walton wrote: > At 22:24 -0700 7/8/06, Scott Gruby wrote: >>> When I choose my "All but ePocrates" profile, a dialog informs me >>> that the profile contains a conduit that is not available, and >>> that the profile needs to be edited. >>> >>> When this happens, the selected profile changes to "No profile" >>> intead of "All but ePocrates". How do I edit "All but ePocrates" >>> when I cannot select it? >>> >> >> From the profiles menu, choose Edit Profiles and then select your >> All but ePocrates. This should then allow you to edit it. > > Scott, thank you. It really is that easy! How embarrassing! > > But... when I do arrive at the option to edit my "All but > ePocrates" profile, how can I tell which conduit it is to which the > dialog refers? Don't worry about it; when you click OK, it will just overwrite the profile and only include the conduits in the list. So, it shouldn't happen again. -- Scott Gruby Mark/Space, Inc. Please visit for assistance with Mark/Space products. From Brashier at cvm.msstate.edu Tue Aug 8 11:55:40 2006 From: Brashier at cvm.msstate.edu (Michael Brashier) Date: Tue Aug 8 11:58:39 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: missing-sync-palmos-talk Digest, Vol 39, Issue 7 In-Reply-To: <200608071900.k77J0EPU004703@sparrow.markspace.com> References: <200608071900.k77J0EPU004703@sparrow.markspace.com> Message-ID: missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com on Monday, August 7, 2006 at 2:00 PM +0000 wrote: >> I've managed to get all my events, tasks and contacts into palm >> desktop but have been unable to get them into iCal or Address Book >> using iSync. My goal is to use Missing Sync, Treo 650 and iCal, >> Address Book and Mark/Space Memo Pad. I can't get the data any >> further than the Palm Desktop though. This despite hours of phone >> support from Apple and Palm. >> Could be that I'm trying to do too many things at once: just >> switched to Mac from PC and successfully brought all email and >> contacts from Outlook to Entourage. Could not get Entourage to sync >> with the Treo using the Entourage built-in sync. So I decided to >> switch to MacMail, iCal and Address Book with Missing Sync but I >> just can't get it set up! If I can just get the Palm Desktop data >> into the Mac apps I think I can follow the Missing Sync directions >> in the Manual. >I may be misunderstanding your question but. if not, I would sync the >Palm Desktop to the Palm first (using the HotSync Manager) and then >disable the HotSync Manager and enable Missing Sync and MS's conduits >for the Apple apps ... and then the next time you run Missing Sync it >should upload the data in the Palm into the empty Apple databases >(iCal and Address Book). It has been awhile since I did this, but when I switched from Palm address and calendar to iCal and Addressbook, I exported the data from Palm as vCard and vCal and then imported it into iCal and Addressbook that way. It sounds like you have put a lot of work into this, and maybe have already done this, but you may want to start over, export everything from Palm as vCard and vCal (should be export choices under File menu), import it into iCal and AddressBook (again, import options under File menu) and then sync to your Palm device. Make sure you follow MS instructions so MS activates and not HotSync when you push the sync button. Michael Brashier, DVM, Dip. ACVIM Ph#: 662-325-1448 P.O. Box 6100 Fax: 662-325-4011 Mississippi State, MS 39762 email: brashier@cvm.msstate.edu From bonnar at sleepyhudson.com Tue Aug 8 12:29:08 2006 From: bonnar at sleepyhudson.com (Paul Bonnar) Date: Tue Aug 8 12:29:35 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: missing-sync-palmos-talk Digest, Vol 39, Issue 7 In-Reply-To: References: <200608071900.k77J0EPU004703@sparrow.markspace.com> Message-ID: <39637EC0-A3B9-4998-B7F1-FEF3F06012AB@sleepyhudson.com> Michael & Patricia: Thanks for your help. I've now discovered that 50% of the (old) events already on my Palm Treo have not even synced onto the Palm Desktop! This is possibly because when I was using Windows I installed a program called KeySuite which is, I suppose, the Windows equivalent of Missing Sync. The KeySuite application is still "in" my Treo - my contacts are listed in "KeyContacts" and my events in "KeyDates". It would appear that these are not only not syncing with Missing Sync but that any new data I add to the Treo is defaulting into those applications (is that the right term?) and therefore continuing to not sync. I've tried the KeySuite FAQ's to find out how to transfer they KeySuite data to plain old Palm and then uninstall KeySuite but there appears to be no info on this. My plan now is to try to print out the old KeyDates info from my old Sony Vaio so at least I have a hard copy and then try to uninstall KeySuite from the Treo via the Sony Vaio. This is really turning into a quest for the holy grail! Paul On Aug 8, 2006, at 2:55 PM, Michael Brashier wrote: missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com on Monday, August 7, 2006 at 2:00 PM +0000 wrote: >> I've managed to get all my events, tasks and contacts into palm >> desktop but have been unable to get them into iCal or Address Book >> using iSync. My goal is to use Missing Sync, Treo 650 and iCal, >> Address Book and Mark/Space Memo Pad. I can't get the data any >> further than the Palm Desktop though. This despite hours of phone >> support from Apple and Palm. >> Could be that I'm trying to do too many things at once: just >> switched to Mac from PC and successfully brought all email and >> contacts from Outlook to Entourage. Could not get Entourage to sync >> with the Treo using the Entourage built-in sync. So I decided to >> switch to MacMail, iCal and Address Book with Missing Sync but I >> just can't get it set up! If I can just get the Palm Desktop data >> into the Mac apps I think I can follow the Missing Sync directions >> in the Manual. > I may be misunderstanding your question but. if not, I would sync the > Palm Desktop to the Palm first (using the HotSync Manager) and then > disable the HotSync Manager and enable Missing Sync and MS's conduits > for the Apple apps ... and then the next time you run Missing Sync it > should upload the data in the Palm into the empty Apple databases > (iCal and Address Book). It has been awhile since I did this, but when I switched from Palm address and calendar to iCal and Addressbook, I exported the data from Palm as vCard and vCal and then imported it into iCal and Addressbook that way. It sounds like you have put a lot of work into this, and maybe have already done this, but you may want to start over, export everything from Palm as vCard and vCal (should be export choices under File menu), import it into iCal and AddressBook (again, import options under File menu) and then sync to your Palm device. Make sure you follow MS instructions so MS activates and not HotSync when you push the sync button. Michael Brashier, DVM, Dip. ACVIM Ph#: 662-325-1448 P.O. Box 6100 Fax: 662-325-4011 Mississippi State, MS 39762 email: brashier@cvm.msstate.edu _______________________________________________ missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your subscribed email address to: missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com J Paul Bonnar Sleepy Hudson LLC 261 Madison Avenue Suite 1504 New York NY 10016 T: 212 867 0800 F: 212 867 1542 M: 917 575 4188 bonnar@sleepyhudson.com www.highline519.com From bwilson at markspace.com Tue Aug 8 12:32:41 2006 From: bwilson at markspace.com (Blaine Wilson) Date: Tue Aug 8 12:32:33 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] New events in Treo 650 won't sync In-Reply-To: <83F2AED2-9B34-4CFB-8C0F-3C2835691846@sleepyhudson.com> References: <27E8AA38-0B4A-4121-9E4F-85811759BE25@sleepyhudson.com> <83F2AED2-9B34-4CFB-8C0F-3C2835691846@sleepyhudson.com> Message-ID: <466B8694-26F3-494F-959E-1FDA04E8A752@markspace.com> Hi Paul, It might be worth resetting your sync history and then syncing. If that doesn't do it, it would probably be worth your while to generate a support ticket here: http://www.markspace.com/support/ emailsupport.html To reset your sync history, please do the following: 1. Launch iSync 2. Choose iSync > Preferences 3. Click Reset Sync History... in the Advanced Section Then try the sync again. Regards, Blaine QA Engineer Mark/Space On Aug 7, 2006, at 9:05 AM, Paul Bonnar wrote: > Yes, the events conduit is set to sync all calendars. I just > noticed that none of my Palm categories are showing up in M/S > events. Is this supposed to be automatic? I added a category to the > Palm that matches one in M/S events and vice versa, put an event > into each with those categories and ran a sync but nothing crosses > over between the Palm and M/S events. > > On Aug 7, 2006, at 11:36 AM, Patricia Warwick wrote: > > Have you checked the settings for the events conduit? It should be > set to synchronize All calendars (at least initially - I exclude > some calendars.) The calendar corresponds to a category in the > Palm. The same applies to contacts. I also have the Tasks conduit > enabled. > > On 7-Aug-06, at 11:11 AM, Paul Bonnar wrote: > >> Following up from a previous question: >> I have MS set up so that the only active conduits are M/S Contacts >> and M/S events. >> When I add an event to either the Treo or iCal it will not sync in >> either direction. >> I'm feeling really stupid at this point - is there some basic >> setting that I just need to check or uncheck? >> Paul >> >> From missingsync at quantentunnel.de Tue Aug 8 13:49:40 2006 From: missingsync at quantentunnel.de (Martin) Date: Tue Aug 8 13:50:05 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: List question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: As with all things in life, things become useful if they can be found and if they are organized. > totally useless as any kind of technical > resource. Currently the messaages in this list (in my email box) are not organized because each mail has the same category when it comes in. Information can therefore NOT easily be "found" -- only easily be "searched" for. There is a big difference in "find" and "search". The "searcher" must know (exactly) what he or she is looking for. And the spelling be better correct! And what if an author misspelled important words? Will a search for "synch" come up with "sync" as result? A lot of users don't even speak english as their mother language. Spanish would be more likely - or Chinese... Must I set up multiple categories in my email program and attribute them to each email message as it comes in -- to facilitate future findings? Furthermore, I cannot search for articles in the past because I recycle and archive my email (as should do everybody) because this keeps my application and database slim, sporty and fast (Entourage in my case). A forum is in every aspect better: 1. A forum can be organized in Tutorials, Stickies, numerous Subtopics (for example synch issues vs. application install issues -- to name a few). 2. A board can allow attached images (screenshots) of problematic constallations (error messages, lenghty log reports, window and preference settings). 3. vBulletin also allows "related" topics which serves a novice as it offers alternative verbage to a subject which lets the novice then successfully search for a solution if he or she can't find it. Keep in mind that novices often don't know how to express themselves, yet alone to "search" the solution. A novice rather want's to "find" a solution by BROWSING magazine style content rather than scrolling through ENDLESS emails - in ASCII... Think about this: why does Apple use a discussion forum and not an email list? Answer: because that company reaches out for the novice. Anybody who encounters a problem and does not have the solution is a novice at that moment. Email lists are great for chatter bugs. Martin PS: Who wants to trouble shoot complex synching problems when without Web connection? This is never useful as often updates have to be downloaded or other important data can only be researched via Google or on the developer's website. From as at andrewshulman.com Tue Aug 8 15:27:17 2006 From: as at andrewshulman.com (Andrew Shulman) Date: Tue Aug 8 15:27:19 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] hanging missing sync Message-ID: <332DE111-0F23-47EA-9B52-8C8A1636C0BC@andrewshulman.com> anyone having trouble with treo 650 and g4 powerbook sync using bluetooth? i know it's slow, but 75% of the time i also lose the connection during the sync, and then missing sync just hangs on the mac until i restart it. force quit doesn't work in shutting missing sync down either. Andrew From loriolson at mac.com Tue Aug 8 15:34:45 2006 From: loriolson at mac.com (Lori M Olson) Date: Tue Aug 8 15:34:38 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] hanging missing sync In-Reply-To: <332DE111-0F23-47EA-9B52-8C8A1636C0BC@andrewshulman.com> References: <332DE111-0F23-47EA-9B52-8C8A1636C0BC@andrewshulman.com> Message-ID: <3FBCB282-9DC8-4B44-89B3-1A415EFD4AC3@mac.com> I have a Treo 650 and a G4 powerbook, and I always use Bluetooth to sync. Slow it is, but I only lose the connection maybe 5% of the time. Possibly you have another problem going on there. Regards, Lori On 8-Aug-06, at 4:27 PM, Andrew Shulman wrote: > anyone having trouble with treo 650 and g4 powerbook sync using > bluetooth? i know it's slow, but 75% of the time i also lose the > connection during the sync, and then missing sync just hangs on the > mac until i restart it. force quit doesn't work in shutting missing > sync down either. > > Andrew > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your > subscribed email address to: > missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com From as at andrewshulman.com Tue Aug 8 15:54:47 2006 From: as at andrewshulman.com (Andrew Shulman) Date: Tue Aug 8 15:54:53 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] hanging missing sync In-Reply-To: <3FBCB282-9DC8-4B44-89B3-1A415EFD4AC3@mac.com> References: <332DE111-0F23-47EA-9B52-8C8A1636C0BC@andrewshulman.com> <3FBCB282-9DC8-4B44-89B3-1A415EFD4AC3@mac.com> Message-ID: So, any ideas? I'm using Tiger and the latest firmware for the treo, but i lose the bluetooth connection regularly. And why will MS not quit when forced? Andrew ___________________________ Andrew Shulman 2265 Old Topanga Canyon Road Topanga CA 90290 USA Phone/Fax: +1 818 591 8702 Cell: +1 818 585 8112 E-mail: as@andrewshulman.com Website: http://www.andrewshulman.com On Aug 8, 2006, at 3:34 PM, Lori M Olson wrote: > I have a Treo 650 and a G4 powerbook, and I always use Bluetooth to > sync. Slow it is, but I only lose the connection maybe 5% of the > time. Possibly you have another problem going on there. > > Regards, Lori > > On 8-Aug-06, at 4:27 PM, Andrew Shulman wrote: > >> anyone having trouble with treo 650 and g4 powerbook sync using >> bluetooth? i know it's slow, but 75% of the time i also lose the >> connection during the sync, and then missing sync just hangs on >> the mac until i restart it. force quit doesn't work in shutting >> missing sync down either. >> >> Andrew >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >> To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your >> subscribed email address to: >> missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your > subscribed email address to: > missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com From mglists at gmail.com Wed Aug 9 10:08:20 2006 From: mglists at gmail.com (MikeG) Date: Wed Aug 9 10:08:22 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: Palm Desktop to Apple-Mark/Space apps? In-Reply-To: <200608041900.k74J06rx003261@sparrow.markspace.com> References: <200608041900.k74J06rx003261@sparrow.markspace.com> Message-ID: <6E8807A5-DE97-4C6F-B685-A0FB16A0152A@gmail.com> Hi, I sent my original message with the above subject (reproduced below in Robyn Philips' August 3 email) on July 11. I was stunned at the lack of reply, especially from the usually-helpful Mark/Space engineers who frequent this list. Can this be put down to people being on summer vacation? I've had two people contact me to say they continue to use Palm Desktop with M/S 5.1. That's great, but I don't like Palm Desktop for a variety of reasons, one of which is it can't be searched with Spotlight. I also don't like that it hasn't been updated for years, looks clunky and seems to use older standards for vcards. (Thanks, anyway, Nico Macdonald!) But I'm no further ahead. I have most of my data in Palm Desktop. While I waited for MS 5 to stabilize, I started putting some of my data in Address Book and iCal. I'm ready to start using MS 5 (I'm using MS 4 still.) What is the best practice for getting all of my data together in iCal and Address book, along with the M/S Memo apps, synched to my palmOne Tungsten T3? 1. Do I delete everything in iCal and Address book, then overwrite them from the T3? I hear this is possible using a workaround involving resetting the Sync history. But how would I then get the data which I would have backed up from iCal and Address Book merged back into the Apple apps? 2. Export my data from Palm Desktop as .vcf and .vcs files and import it into Address Book and iCal, merging the entries with my existing data? What about the To Dos and Memos? How can they be exported and imported? The only way to export them from Palm Desktop is tab and return. I don't see a way to import tab and return into iCal, and I'm not sure if you can with Mark/Space's memos app. 3. Marc Bizer, on August 4, suggested using iSync to sync my T3 with iCal and Address Book. I'm not clear on whether this would involve deleting what I have in Address Book and iCal or whether it could handle merging the records. But forgive me, isn't MS 5 supposed to be a complete replacement and upgrade over iSync? I tried iSync once before but had a lot of problems - it was a while ago so I can't be specific (well before MS 5 came out). Why would I use iSync as an intermediary step to MS 5? I seem to recall iSync causing me data loss and category loss issues. Am I wrong or out of date? The ideal situation would be to have some method that takes the data in Palm Desktop or on the T3 - which are synched via MS 4 and synchs either of them with MS 5, in such a way that the data already in Address Book or iCal is merged with what's on the T3 or in Palm Desktop. The reason I want to by hyper sure about the "best practice" way to do this is that I recall during the early days of MS 5 many, many emails on this list emphasizing that things must be done "just so" in order to avoid some of the hellish situations people were reporting. I don't want to mess things up with Sync Services. Can someone please either be more comprehensive than Marc Bizer was or point me to a How-To document that addresses my situation? I'm assuming I'm not the only person who had to deal with this situation, given how long iCal and Address Book existed before MS 5 provided a decent way to sync a PDA with them. Thank you, Mike Gordon Luxembourg On 4-Aug-06, at 9:00 PM, missing-sync-palmos-talk- request@lists.markspace.com wrote: > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Palm Desktop to Apple-Mark/Space apps? (Robyn Phillips) > 2. Re: Palm Desktop to Apple-Mark/Space apps? (Marc Bizer) > > From: Robyn Phillips > Date: August 3, 2006 8:39:37 AM GMT+02:00 > To: Missing Sync > Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: Palm Desktop to Apple-Mark/ > Space apps? > Reply-To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Palm OS\) Discussion List" > > > > on 12/7/06 03:45, MikeG wrote: > >> I've been following the discussion on Missing Sync 5 since its >> release, waiting for the initial flood of problems to subside. It >> seemed that the app has become fairly stable with the release of 5.1. >> >> I'm ready to upgrade from version 4. But I am stumped as to the best >> way to do this. >> >> The bulk of my data is in Palm Desktop. Some of it is in Address >> Book. A small amount in iCal. But I understand that proper procedure >> is you have to have all your information in Address Book and iCal and >> overwrite the Palm on the first sync. >> >> Has anyone got any tips on how best to do this? Is it as simple as >> exporting all your Palm Desktop items as their various .vcf, .vcal >> formats? What about the memos? They go that Mark/Space Memo app, >> right? How? >> >> Then I suppose it's important to get your iCal data into the >> calendars, and make sure your Address Book categories are as you >> want. But since I've got categories in Palm Desktop, isn't there some >> way to preserve them as I transfer to the iCal/Address Book/Memo app? >> >> I'd really appreciate some pointers on the best way to do this, so I >> can successfully transition to the Apple-Mark/Space apps and finally >> leave that inadequate Palm Desktop behind. >> > > Hi Mike, > > I am using Missing Sync 5 with Palm Desktop. Although Palm Desktop > has not > been updated for the Mac in a long while, and unlikely to, it still > does an > acceptable job, even though it is a basic program. The one > advantage I think > Palm Desktop has over iCal and Address Book is that I can choose > handheld > overwrites desktop if necessary. > > I understand that you may want to migrate across to iCal and > Address Book, > but please be aware that it is not compulsory to do this to use > Missing Syn > 5. > > Robyn > > > > > > > From: Marc Bizer > Date: August 4, 2006 9:30:35 AM GMT+02:00 > To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Palm OS\) Discussion List" sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com> > Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: Palm Desktop to Apple-Mark/ > Space apps? > Reply-To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Palm OS\) Discussion List" > > > > On 8/3/06 at 4:39 PM +1000, MikeG wrote: >> The bulk of my data is in Palm Desktop. Some of it is in Address >> Book. A small amount in iCal. But I understand that proper >> procedure is you have to have all your information in Address Book >> and iCal and overwrite the Palm on the first sync. Has anyone got >> any tips on how best to do this? Is it as simple as exporting all >> your Palm Desktop items as their various .vcf, .vcal formats? > > That will definitely work for the addresses (although the > categories won't be preserved), but the simplest way to get > everything into iCal is simply to use the iSync conduit with Palm > Desktop. > >> What about the memos? They go that Mark/Space Memo app, right? How? > > You set that conduit to do "Handheld overwrites Desktop" > >> Then I suppose it's important to get your iCal data into the >> calendars, and make sure your Address Book categories are as you >> want. But since I've got categories in Palm Desktop, isn't there >> some way to preserve them as I transfer to the iCal/Address Book/ >> Memo app? > > I don't think so. > > --Marc From stan at temple.edu Wed Aug 9 12:29:40 2006 From: stan at temple.edu (Stan Horwitz) Date: Wed Aug 9 12:29:37 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Problem syncing iCal events with Palm Zire 72 Message-ID: For the most part, Missing Sync 5.1 for Palm OS works well for me, but it does not seem to sync the notes portion of iCal events. This is on a PowerMac G5 with Mac OS X 10.4.7. How can I get Missing Sync to include the notes portion of iCal events when I sync? From sgruby at markspace.com Wed Aug 9 12:33:27 2006 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Wed Aug 9 12:33:21 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: Palm Desktop to Apple-Mark/Space apps? In-Reply-To: <6E8807A5-DE97-4C6F-B685-A0FB16A0152A@gmail.com> References: <200608041900.k74J06rx003261@sparrow.markspace.com> <6E8807A5-DE97-4C6F-B685-A0FB16A0152A@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Aug 9, 2006, at 10:08 AM, MikeG wrote: > Hi, > > I sent my original message with the above subject (reproduced below > in Robyn Philips' August 3 email) on July 11. I was stunned at the > lack of reply, especially from the usually-helpful Mark/Space > engineers who frequent this list. Can this be put down to people > being on summer vacation? If you haven't already done so, please contact our support folks as they are extremely helpful and can assist you. This mailing list is not meant as a replacement for support, but it is a user mailing list for users to exchange information. Mark/Space engineers and other Mark/Space personnel respond as time permits and when we feel that we can add to the discussion. Usually, large complex syncing issues such as you are asking about are best handled through one on one support. In addition, our support site contains a wealth of knowledge through the knowledge base articles. -- Scott Gruby Mark/Space, Inc. Please visit for assistance with Mark/Space products. From bcriscuolo at markspace.com Wed Aug 9 12:38:48 2006 From: bcriscuolo at markspace.com (Brian M. Criscuolo) Date: Wed Aug 9 12:38:42 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Problem syncing iCal events with Palm Zire 72 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7BE3DB54-6B73-44E6-A224-913C56E8ADA9@markspace.com> Stan, We do support the notes - what device PIM are you using? The built-in one, or a 3rd party product? b On Aug 9, 2006, at 12:29 PM, Stan Horwitz wrote: > For the most part, Missing Sync 5.1 for Palm OS works well for me, > but it does not seem to sync the notes portion of iCal events. This > is on a PowerMac G5 with Mac OS X 10.4.7. > > How can I get Missing Sync to include the notes portion of iCal > events when I sync? > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your > subscribed email address to: > missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com ******************** Brian M. Criscuolo Lead Engineer Mark/Space, Inc. bcriscuolo@markspace.com From luomat at gmail.com Wed Aug 9 16:32:31 2006 From: luomat at gmail.com (TjL) Date: Wed Aug 9 16:32:23 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] The future of categories? In-Reply-To: References: <20060801205613.AE04839E8@email.iwon.com> Message-ID: On 8/1/06, Matthew and Cathy Groves wrote: > Anyone have any info on the future of categories in this whole > pda/mac/entourage saga? > > I dream of a world where I can still use categories and sync BOTH my > icall/address book/entourage instead of just one or the other. > > I can dream, can't I? Yeah, I use Categories for GTD Contexts, and having to limit one for Entourage is way too restrictive. *sigh* From kissphotography at mac.com Wed Aug 9 18:00:21 2006 From: kissphotography at mac.com (Michael Gregory) Date: Wed Aug 9 18:00:17 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Link question In-Reply-To: <200608091900.k79J0Bi3004395@sparrow.markspace.com> References: <200608091900.k79J0Bi3004395@sparrow.markspace.com> Message-ID: I'll chime in and second this train of thought. I've been subscribed to this mailing list for about 4 months and have got used to it, but at first I found to be totally foreign and antiquated. Because I was new to this hardware and software solution I sat and poured through all the archives for hours clicking and reading to try and get some background on possible issues I'd be facing with the new setup. I really did have to sift through a ton of posts to try and get the useful bits. Since then my daily newsletter has been useful in keeping me up to date, but I don't look forward to having to go back and find an archived solution if I have a problem. It may be possible to download an archive and use spotlight to search it but I haven't tried it. I *always* search first when trouble shooting - why ask the same old question over again, people will stop responding altogether. A bulletin board I subscribe to has a daily/ weekly digest of the posts, to my mind this is the best of both worlds, a searchable organized resource and a daily mailing of the threads. Going off the credits it's a phpBB setup. Michael On 10/08/2006, at 5:00 AM, missing-sync-palmos-talk- request@lists.markspace.com wrote: > As with all things in life, things become useful if they can be > found and if > they are organized. > >> totally useless as any kind of technical >> resource. > > Currently the messaages in this list (in my email box) are not > organized > because each mail has the same category when it comes in. > Information can > therefore NOT easily be "found" -- only easily be "searched" for. > > There is a big difference in "find" and "search". The "searcher" > must know > (exactly) what he or she is looking for. And the spelling be better > correct! > And what if an author misspelled important words? Will a search for > "synch" > come up with "sync" as result? A lot of users don't even speak > english as > their mother language. Spanish would be more likely - or Chinese... > > Must I set up multiple categories in my email program and attribute > them to > each email message as it comes in -- to facilitate future findings? > > Furthermore, I cannot search for articles in the past because I > recycle and > archive my email (as should do everybody) because this keeps my > application > and database slim, sporty and fast (Entourage in my case). > > A forum is in every aspect better: > > 1. A forum can be organized in Tutorials, Stickies, numerous > Subtopics (for > example synch issues vs. application install issues -- to name a few). > > 2. A board can allow attached images (screenshots) of problematic > constallations (error messages, lenghty log reports, window and > preference > settings). > > 3. vBulletin also allows "related" topics which serves a novice as > it offers > alternative verbage to a subject which lets the novice then > successfully > search for a solution if he or she can't find it. Keep in mind that > novices > often don't know how to express themselves, yet alone to "search" the > solution. A novice rather want's to "find" a solution by BROWSING > magazine > style content rather than scrolling through ENDLESS emails - in > ASCII... > > Think about this: why does Apple use a discussion forum and not an > email > list? Answer: because that company reaches out for the novice. > Anybody who > encounters a problem and does not have the solution is a novice at > that > moment. > > Email lists are great for chatter bugs. > > > Martin > > > PS: Who wants to trouble shoot complex synching problems when > without Web > connection? This is never useful as often updates have to be > downloaded or > other important data can only be researched via Google or on the > developer's > website. From berkowit at silcom.com Wed Aug 9 16:40:41 2006 From: berkowit at silcom.com (Paul Berkowitz) Date: Wed Aug 9 18:52:29 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] The future of categories? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 8/9/06 4:32 PM, "TjL" wrote: > On 8/1/06, Matthew and Cathy Groves wrote: >> Anyone have any info on the future of categories in this whole >> pda/mac/entourage saga? >> >> I dream of a world where I can still use categories and sync BOTH my >> icall/address book/entourage instead of just one or the other. >> >> I can dream, can't I? > > Yeah, I use Categories for GTD Contexts, and having to limit one for > Entourage is way too restrictive. In the meantime you can use my Sync Entourage-iCal [TIGER] script instead of SyncServices (don't use both at the same time!). You can get it here: MacScripter.net and try it out free for 14 days. -- Paul Berkowitz From kibalapa at netscape.net Wed Aug 9 21:45:29 2006 From: kibalapa at netscape.net (Piotr A. Kibala) Date: Wed Aug 9 21:45:26 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] All third party conduits --- error 0x400a Message-ID: <3857F088.0A297709.009E7061@netscape.net> Hi Paul: I have similar problem to the one you reported. Number of third party conduits returned error (0x400a) while M/S conduits worked fine. You reported that uninstalling and reinstalling Missing Sync cured the problem. I tried this approach but no luck. What else have you tried before the uninstall. Perhaps it was a combination of things. Thank you for any help you can offer. Regards, Piotr A. Kibala Typical sync log: Sync starting at 8/9/06 11:06 PM (23:06:21) on USB (5.1.0) OK Install OK Mark/Space Events OK Mark/Space Contacts OK Mark/Space MemoPad OK Mark/Space Tasks Failed Pocket Quicken 2.5 (0x400a) OK Install Sync completed successfully at 8/9/06 11:08 PM (23:08:28) I wonder about two instances of OK Install especially the second one right after the failed conduit. My configuration: Missing Sync: 5.1.0 (131) PowerBook G4 OS X 10.4.7 Treo 700p (Sprint) Palm OS 5.4 __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp From hess2 at yacht.com Thu Aug 10 03:58:41 2006 From: hess2 at yacht.com (Paul List Hess) Date: Thu Aug 10 03:59:11 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] All third party conduits --- error 0x400a In-Reply-To: <3857F088.0A297709.009E7061@netscape.net> References: <3857F088.0A297709.009E7061@netscape.net> Message-ID: Hi Piotr, I'm pretty sure the uninstall is what did it. I retested every time I tried anything. Also in retrospect I had some strangeness during my initial install that might have caused it ... I think it locked up after the install was complete and I had to restart the system. Prior to the uninstall, I had tried turning things on/off one at a time to see if I could determined which conduit might have caused the problem, but didn't get anywhere on it. - Paul At 12:45 AM -0400 8/10/06, Piotr A. Kibala wrote: >Hi Paul: > >I have similar problem to the one you reported. Number of third party conduits returned error (0x400a) while M/S conduits worked fine. You reported that uninstalling and reinstalling Missing Sync cured the problem. I tried this approach but no luck. What else have you tried before the uninstall. Perhaps it was a combination of things. > >Thank you for any help you can offer. > >Regards, > >Piotr A. Kibala > > >Typical sync log: > >Sync starting at 8/9/06 11:06 PM (23:06:21) on USB (5.1.0) >OK Install >OK Mark/Space Events >OK Mark/Space Contacts >OK Mark/Space MemoPad >OK Mark/Space Tasks >Failed Pocket Quicken 2.5 (0x400a) >OK Install >Sync completed successfully at 8/9/06 11:08 PM (23:08:28) > >I wonder about two instances of OK Install especially the second one right after the failed conduit. > >My configuration: > >Missing Sync: 5.1.0 (131) >PowerBook G4 >OS X 10.4.7 >Treo 700p (Sprint) >Palm OS 5.4 > > >__________________________________________________________________ >Switch to Netscape Internet Service. >As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register > >Netscape. Just the Net You Need. > >New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer >Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. >Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp >_______________________________________________ >missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your subscribed email address to: >missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com From bwilson at markspace.com Thu Aug 10 12:01:30 2006 From: bwilson at markspace.com (Blaine Wilson) Date: Thu Aug 10 12:01:23 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] All third party conduits --- error 0x400a In-Reply-To: References: <3857F088.0A297709.009E7061@netscape.net> Message-ID: <966D35F3-67EF-410B-97E1-655573A91C4E@markspace.com> Hello, Are both of you using the 700p? Piotr, I see that you have Pocket Quicken. Paul, do you have Pocket Quicken as well? If you turn off the Pocket Quicken conduit, do the other 3rd party conduits still fail? Please let me know. Regards, Blaine QA Engineer Mark/Space On Aug 10, 2006, at 3:58 AM, Paul List Hess wrote: > Hi Piotr, > > I'm pretty sure the uninstall is what did it. I retested every > time I tried anything. Also in retrospect I had some strangeness > during my initial install that might have caused it ... I think it > locked up after the install was complete and I had to restart the > system. > > Prior to the uninstall, I had tried turning things on/off one at a > time to see if I could determined which conduit might have caused > the problem, but didn't get anywhere on it. > > - Paul > > At 12:45 AM -0400 8/10/06, Piotr A. Kibala wrote: >> Hi Paul: >> >> I have similar problem to the one you reported. Number of third >> party conduits returned error (0x400a) while M/S conduits worked >> fine. You reported that uninstalling and reinstalling Missing Sync >> cured the problem. I tried this approach but no luck. What else >> have you tried before the uninstall. Perhaps it was a combination >> of things. >> >> Thank you for any help you can offer. >> >> Regards, >> >> Piotr A. Kibala >> >> >> Typical sync log: >> >> Sync starting at 8/9/06 11:06 PM (23:06:21) on USB (5.1.0) >> OK Install >> OK Mark/Space Events >> OK Mark/Space Contacts >> OK Mark/Space MemoPad >> OK Mark/Space Tasks >> Failed Pocket Quicken 2.5 (0x400a) >> OK Install >> Sync completed successfully at 8/9/06 11:08 PM (23:08:28) >> >> I wonder about two instances of OK Install especially the second >> one right after the failed conduit. >> >> My configuration: >> >> Missing Sync: 5.1.0 (131) >> PowerBook G4 >> OS X 10.4.7 >> Treo 700p (Sprint) >> Palm OS 5.4 >> From heeia at mac.com Thu Aug 10 12:49:16 2006 From: heeia at mac.com (christopher wiecking) Date: Thu Aug 10 12:49:15 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] chronos notes Message-ID: <4D385E08-3747-4C39-9748-C663E1EB0E58@mac.com> Mac OS 10.4.7, Missing Sync 5.1, Palm Treo 650. Had issues with a clean sync interface with mac sync engine, reinstalled all and did a clean reset on mac side, then MS side, all calendars and contacts are now OK. Having problems with Chronos Notes consuit. Syncing with just that conduit- log notes OK startup, then exits fairly quickly. Log says all went well, but in the palm memos there are many missing notes that are in the Palm folder within Chronos. Have deleted and reinstalled Notes 552 and no change in sync behavior. Any thoughts will be greatly appreciated. From shawnostermann at mac.com Thu Aug 10 13:48:13 2006 From: shawnostermann at mac.com (Shawn Ostermann) Date: Thu Aug 10 13:48:09 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] does 5.1 work in MacOSX _SERVER_? Message-ID: <1392BB46-11DC-4317-908C-3770D4F72156@mac.com> I've been a very happy registered user of missing sync for several years. I also run OSX Server software on my single-user workstation because it makes it much easier to set up lots of things. If you trick it at install time to think that the machine is NOT running the server version, then versions up through 5.0.2 (which I'm running now) have always worked fine for me. As soon as 5.1 came out, I immediately upgraded and I tried the same trick. Unfortunately, once installed, the software would hang and stop working after a while and I had to reboot. The documentation, of course, says that SERVER isn't supported, so I reverted back to 5.0.2. It was so much work to revert to the old version that I'm hesitant to try again unless I know that there's some hope. Does anybody know if the latest builds do accidentally run under the server MacOSX version or what trick might make it work? Thanks! Mac OSX 10.4.7 dual G5 workstation treo 650 phone From sgruby at markspace.com Thu Aug 10 14:01:59 2006 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Thu Aug 10 14:01:58 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] does 5.1 work in MacOSX _SERVER_? In-Reply-To: <1392BB46-11DC-4317-908C-3770D4F72156@mac.com> References: <1392BB46-11DC-4317-908C-3770D4F72156@mac.com> Message-ID: On Aug 10, 2006, at 1:48 PM, Shawn Ostermann wrote: > I've been a very happy registered user of missing sync for several > years. I also run OSX Server software on my single-user > workstation because it makes it much easier to set up lots of things. > > If you trick it at install time to think that the machine is NOT > running the server version, then versions up through 5.0.2 (which > I'm running now) have always worked fine for me. As soon as 5.1 > came out, I immediately upgraded and I tried the same trick. > Unfortunately, once installed, the software would hang and stop > working after a while and I had to reboot. The documentation, of > course, says that SERVER isn't supported, so I reverted back to > 5.0.2. It was so much work to revert to the old version that I'm > hesitant to try again unless I know that there's some hope. > > Does anybody know if the latest builds do accidentally run under > the server MacOSX version or what trick might make it work? > The software is unsupported on Mac OS X server; while you can trick it as you have done, we don't support it, so you're on your own. While we haven't done anything (except in the installer) to prevent the software from running on OS X server, we have not tested it and have no plans of supporting it. -- Scott Gruby Mark/Space, Inc. Please visit for assistance with Mark/Space products. From stan at temple.edu Thu Aug 10 14:31:15 2006 From: stan at temple.edu (Stan Horwitz) Date: Thu Aug 10 14:31:08 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] missing-sync-palmos-talk] Problem syncing iCal events with Palm Zire 72 In-Reply-To: <200608101900.k7AJ0Ati014349@sparrow.markspace.com> References: <200608101900.k7AJ0Ati014349@sparrow.markspace.com> Message-ID: <7B01A7FC-C7F2-4216-B35B-E13E8DD93902@temple.edu> On Aug 10, 2006, at 3:00 PM ? 8/10/06, missing-sync-palmos-talk- request@lists.markspace.com wrote: > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 12:38:48 -0700 > From: "Brian M. Criscuolo" > Subject: Re: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Problem syncing iCal events > with Palm Zire 72 > To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Palm OS\) Discussion List" > > Message-ID: <7BE3DB54-6B73-44E6-A224-913C56E8ADA9@markspace.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed > > Stan, > > We do support the notes - what device PIM are you using? The built-in > one, or a 3rd party product? Brian; I don't understand your question. I am using a Palm Zire 72 with your software and Apple's iCal and Addressbook software. I don't know of this answers your question, but I am only using the conduits that came pre-installed with the Missing Space software. From bcriscuolo at markspace.com Thu Aug 10 14:47:13 2006 From: bcriscuolo at markspace.com (Brian M. Criscuolo) Date: Thu Aug 10 14:47:09 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] missing-sync-palmos-talk] Problem syncing iCal events with Palm Zire 72 In-Reply-To: <7B01A7FC-C7F2-4216-B35B-E13E8DD93902@temple.edu> References: <200608101900.k7AJ0Ati014349@sparrow.markspace.com> <7B01A7FC-C7F2-4216-B35B-E13E8DD93902@temple.edu> Message-ID: Hi Stan, I was wondering if you used Palm's calendar application, or one from a 3rd party. b On Aug 10, 2006, at 2:31 PM, Stan Horwitz wrote: > > On Aug 10, 2006, at 3:00 PM ? 8/10/06, missing-sync-palmos-talk- > request@lists.markspace.com wrote: > >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 12:38:48 -0700 >> From: "Brian M. Criscuolo" >> Subject: Re: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Problem syncing iCal events >> with Palm Zire 72 >> To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Palm OS\) Discussion List" >> >> Message-ID: <7BE3DB54-6B73-44E6-A224-913C56E8ADA9@markspace.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed >> >> Stan, >> >> We do support the notes - what device PIM are you using? The built-in >> one, or a 3rd party product? > > Brian; > > I don't understand your question. I am using a Palm Zire 72 with > your software and Apple's iCal and Addressbook software. > I don't know of this answers your question, but I am only using the > conduits that came pre-installed with the Missing Space software. > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your > subscribed email address to: > missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com ******************** Brian M. Criscuolo Lead Engineer Mark/Space, Inc. bcriscuolo@markspace.com From kibalapa at netscape.net Thu Aug 10 19:41:59 2006 From: kibalapa at netscape.net (Piotr A. Kibala) Date: Thu Aug 10 19:41:56 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] All third party conduits --- error0x400a Message-ID: <0EA96AC3.570F8428.009E7061@netscape.net> Hi Paul: Thank you for the information. I tried only once to reinstall Missing Sync. That has not done the trick. I plan to do it again. I do intend to uninstall and actually sync with Palm - if I understand correctly uninstalling Missing Sync restores back to HotSync and Palm Desktop. My situation was somewhat unusual. I did have the most current data on Treo 700p. I deleted all the data in iCal and Address Book prior to syncking with Missing Sync conduits. Everything went well. I have multiple categories in iCal, something I could not get with iSync on my other computer. After successful sync with M/S conduits I added other conduits and suffered an inerrupted sync. (I had Docs toGo, Splash Wallet Suite conduits, and Pocket Quicken. I tried many times different combination of the conduitas, and they all failed with the same error (0x400a). I am very suspicious of the Install message. It seems I get it twice in the log: one at the beginning of the sync session and one right after the failed sync. Thislooked really strange when Docs to Go would keep installing. Either way none of the third party conduits works whether separately or together. I Googled this issue and no doubt there are folks that have these conduits working; so, what am I doing wrong? Paul List Hess wrote: >X-INFO: INVALID TO LINE >Hi Piotr, > >I'm pretty sure the uninstall is what did it. ?I retested every time I tried anything. ?Also in retrospect I had some strangeness during my initial install that might have caused it ... I think it locked up after the install was complete and I had to restart the system. > >Prior to the uninstall, I had tried turning things on/off one at a time to see if I could determined which conduit might have caused the problem, but didn't get anywhere on it. > > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? - Paul > >At 12:45 AM -0400 8/10/06, Piotr A. Kibala wrote: >>Hi Paul: >> >>I have similar problem to the one you reported. Number of third party conduits returned error (0x400a) while M/S conduits worked fine. You reported that uninstalling and reinstalling Missing Sync cured the problem. I tried this approach but no luck. What else have you tried before the uninstall. Perhaps it was a combination of things. >> >>Thank you for any help you can offer. >> >>Regards, >> >>Piotr A. Kibala >> >> >>Typical sync log: >> >>Sync starting at 8/9/06 11:06 PM (23:06:21) on USB (5.1.0) >>OK Install >>OK Mark/Space Events >>OK Mark/Space Contacts >>OK Mark/Space MemoPad >>OK Mark/Space Tasks >>Failed Pocket Quicken 2.5 (0x400a) >>OK Install >>Sync completed successfully at 8/9/06 11:08 PM (23:08:28) >> >>I wonder about two instances of OK Install especially the second one right after the failed conduit. >> >>My configuration: >> >>Missing Sync: 5.1.0 (131) >>PowerBook G4 >>OS X 10.4.7 >>Treo 700p (Sprint) >>Palm OS 5.4 >> >> >>__________________________________________________________________ >>Switch to Netscape Internet Service. >>As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register >> >>Netscape. Just the Net You Need. >> >>New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer >>Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. >>Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp >>_______________________________________________ >>missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >>missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >>To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your subscribed email address to: >>missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com > >_______________________________________________ >missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your subscribed email address to: >missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com > __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp From hess2 at yacht.com Fri Aug 11 01:34:23 2006 From: hess2 at yacht.com (Paul List Hess) Date: Fri Aug 11 01:35:09 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] All third party conduits --- error 0x400a In-Reply-To: <966D35F3-67EF-410B-97E1-655573A91C4E@markspace.com> References: <3857F088.0A297709.009E7061@netscape.net> <966D35F3-67EF-410B-97E1-655573A91C4E@markspace.com> Message-ID: Hi, I have the 700p and also Pocket Quicken. I can't test turning it off since everything is working now but I think I turned various conduits off before when I was testing. Pocket Quicken might not have been one of the ones I tested since I had just downloaded their "compatable" conduit. At 12:01 PM -0700 8/10/06, Blaine Wilson wrote: >Hello, > >Are both of you using the 700p? > >Piotr, I see that you have Pocket Quicken. Paul, do you have Pocket Quicken as well? If you turn off the Pocket Quicken conduit, do the other 3rd party conduits still fail? > >Please let me know. > >Regards, > >Blaine >QA Engineer >Mark/Space > >On Aug 10, 2006, at 3:58 AM, Paul List Hess wrote: > >>Hi Piotr, >> >>I'm pretty sure the uninstall is what did it. I retested every time I tried anything. Also in retrospect I had some strangeness during my initial install that might have caused it ... I think it locked up after the install was complete and I had to restart the system. >> >>Prior to the uninstall, I had tried turning things on/off one at a time to see if I could determined which conduit might have caused the problem, but didn't get anywhere on it. >> >> - Paul >> >>At 12:45 AM -0400 8/10/06, Piotr A. Kibala wrote: >>>Hi Paul: >>> >>>I have similar problem to the one you reported. Number of third party conduits returned error (0x400a) while M/S conduits worked fine. You reported that uninstalling and reinstalling Missing Sync cured the problem. I tried this approach but no luck. What else have you tried before the uninstall. Perhaps it was a combination of things. >>> >>>Thank you for any help you can offer. >>> >>>Regards, >>> >>>Piotr A. Kibala >>> >>> >>>Typical sync log: >>> >>>Sync starting at 8/9/06 11:06 PM (23:06:21) on USB (5.1.0) >>>OK Install >>>OK Mark/Space Events >>>OK Mark/Space Contacts >>>OK Mark/Space MemoPad >>>OK Mark/Space Tasks >>>Failed Pocket Quicken 2.5 (0x400a) >>>OK Install >>>Sync completed successfully at 8/9/06 11:08 PM (23:08:28) >>> >>>I wonder about two instances of OK Install especially the second one right after the failed conduit. >>> >>>My configuration: >>> >>>Missing Sync: 5.1.0 (131) >>>PowerBook G4 >>>OS X 10.4.7 >>>Treo 700p (Sprint) >>>Palm OS 5.4 >>> >_______________________________________________ >missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your subscribed email address to: >missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com From sdweyhrich at cox.net Fri Aug 11 03:29:05 2006 From: sdweyhrich at cox.net (Steven Weyhrich) Date: Fri Aug 11 03:28:59 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Sync problems Message-ID: <8C506C78-D7D7-48AD-A49C-8AC660BF4D26@cox.net> Hello, I'm new to the list. I'm having problems with this error message coming up in my log when trying to sync my Contacts: ***************************************** ISyncInvalidRecordException you referenced the following records (in a relationship) but did not actually push them: ( "Ccom.markspace.missingsync.palmos.contacts_3108582745_53646", "Ccom.markspace.missingsync.palmos.contacts_3108582745_53687", "Ccom.markspace.missingsync.palmos.contacts_3108582745_53427" ) SyncClient error. Mingling failed. OK Mark/Space Contacts with 2 message(s) ***************************************** Also, Missing Sync seems to be able to allow me to either Sync contacts, or let desktop overwrite handheld, but there is no "handheld overwrites desktop" option. Why is that? I've done a fair bit of editing to my Contacts on the Treo, and don't really want to have to start over the process and do the same thing in Address Book on the Mac. This happens whether I try to Sync the entire list of Contacts or just one category. How do I fix this problem? Using Missing Sync 5.1, and doing the Sync with a PowerBook G4 1.67 GHz, Mac OS X 10.4.7, to a Treo 700p. Same thing happens whether I do Bluetooth or use a USB cable. ------------------------------------------------------- Steven Weyhrich --< Apple II History http://apple2history.org From missing at biggerhammer.org Fri Aug 11 10:51:47 2006 From: missing at biggerhammer.org (missing@biggerhammer.org) Date: Fri Aug 11 10:51:38 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Evite, iCal, MS and time zones Message-ID: I'm using iCal Version 2.0.3 (1055), MS 5.1.0 (131), Mac OS X 10.4.7 (8J135). I'm using the standard Palm PIM on the Tungsten. When I add a Evite to iCal it is displayed correctly and respects my time zone. But on the right in the details of the event, it is displayed as UTC/GMT. So that is fine. But, when I sync, it appears on my Tungsten C as the UTC/GMT. I'm on the west coast PDT, currently. In other words, an event on Thursday night, 8/10/06, shows up early Friday morning, 8/12/06, on the Tungsten but is shows up in the right place in iCal. Is there an easy fix for this that I'm overlooking? Thanks From sdweyhrich at cox.net Fri Aug 11 12:00:27 2006 From: sdweyhrich at cox.net (Steven Weyhrich) Date: Fri Aug 11 12:00:24 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Evite, iCal, MS and time zones In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5DD34E30-0D68-4231-A708-257F3063C24B@cox.net> This is probably so simplistic an answer that it is something you've already checked, but you have your computer and your Treo set to the same time zone, right? ------------------------ Steven Weyhrich On Aug 11, 2006, at 12:51 PM, missing@biggerhammer.org wrote: > I'm using iCal Version 2.0.3 (1055), MS 5.1.0 (131), Mac OS X > 10.4.7 (8J135). I'm using the standard Palm PIM on the Tungsten. > > When I add a Evite to iCal it is displayed correctly and respects > my time zone. But on the right in the details of the event, it is > displayed as UTC/GMT. So that is fine. But, when I sync, it appears > on my Tungsten C as the UTC/GMT. I'm on the west coast PDT, > currently. In other words, an event on Thursday night, 8/10/06, > shows up early Friday morning, 8/12/06, on the Tungsten but is > shows up in the right place in iCal. > > Is there an easy fix for this that I'm overlooking? > > Thanks > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your > subscribed email address to: > missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com From stan at temple.edu Fri Aug 11 12:20:18 2006 From: stan at temple.edu (Stan Horwitz) Date: Fri Aug 11 12:20:13 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] missing-sync-palmos-talk] Problem syncing iCal events with Palm Zire 72 In-Reply-To: <200608111902.k7BJ2A7h000490@sparrow.markspace.com> References: <200608111902.k7BJ2A7h000490@sparrow.markspace.com> Message-ID: <70693B92-0A15-49C1-9CB5-F41F203930C3@temple.edu> > > Message: 6 > Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 14:47:13 -0700 > From: "Brian M. Criscuolo" > Subject: Re: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] missing-sync-palmos-talk] > Problem syncing iCal events with Palm Zire 72 > To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Palm OS\) Discussion List" > > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; > format=flowed > > Hi Stan, > > I was wondering if you used Palm's calendar application, or one from > a 3rd party. I am using iCal. I am not using any Palm applications on my Mac; they stink. As it turns out, the problem seems to have gone away. When I synced my Zire 72 this morning, the notes did get downloaded to my Zire 72, but I have no idea why the process suddenly began to work. From missingsync at quantentunnel.de Fri Aug 11 13:16:44 2006 From: missingsync at quantentunnel.de (Martin) Date: Fri Aug 11 13:17:51 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Can't initialize sync session Message-ID: I get the following info in the log history: SyncClient error. Can't initialize sync session. OK Mark/Space Contacts with 2 message(s) Sync completed successfully at 2006-08-11 13:04 (13:04:31) To me this information is contradictory, because it states first that it "can't" initialize a sync (-session), yet it says that the Sync completed "successfully". Who comes up with such messages -- the "missing" sync, perhaps? In Roman times this messenger would have been killed for such stupid contradiction. Martin From sdweyhrich at cox.net Fri Aug 11 14:19:55 2006 From: sdweyhrich at cox.net (Steven Weyhrich) Date: Fri Aug 11 14:19:53 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Can't initialize sync session In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Well, it _is_ "Missing Sync" that is giving me this lovely answer. The Contacts sync does NOT properly complete. What do I do? ------------------------------------------------------- Steven Weyhrich --< Apple II History http://apple2history.org On Aug 11, 2006, at 3:16 PM, Martin wrote: >> I get the following info in the log history: >> >> SyncClient error. Can't initialize sync session. >> OK Mark/Space Contacts with 2 message(s) >> Sync completed successfully at 2006-08-11 13:04 (13:04:31) > > To me this information is contradictory, because it states first > that it > "can't" initialize a sync (-session), yet it says that the Sync > completed > "successfully". > > Who comes up with such messages -- the "missing" sync, perhaps? > > In Roman times this messenger would have been killed for such stupid > contradiction. > > Martin From luomat at gmail.com Sat Aug 12 21:31:58 2006 From: luomat at gmail.com (TjL) Date: Mon Aug 14 09:05:32 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Google Calendar Sync, am I the only one? Message-ID: I'm surprised not to see more people wanting a full two-way sync solution for Google Calendar. As far as I can see there's only one program (and that's for Windows) that is claiming to be able to do that. Are others just not using GCalendar or what? From thraxisp4 at mac.com Sun Aug 13 07:34:04 2006 From: thraxisp4 at mac.com (Glenn Henshaw) Date: Mon Aug 14 09:06:42 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: List question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <78A9214A-0D98-48B3-A1D4-C8142598F58F@mac.com> On 8-Aug-06, at 4:49 PM, Martin wrote: > As with all things in life, things become useful if they can be > found and if > they are organized. > >> totally useless as any kind of technical >> resource. > > Currently the messaages in this list (in my email box) are not > organized > because each mail has the same category when it comes in. > Information can > therefore NOT easily be "found" -- only easily be "searched" for. > > There is a big difference in "find" and "search". The "searcher" > must know > (exactly) what he or she is looking for. And the spelling be better > correct! > And what if an author misspelled important words? Will a search for > "synch" > come up with "sync" as result? A lot of users don't even speak > english as > their mother language. Spanish would be more likely - or Chinese... > > Must I set up multiple categories in my email program and attribute > them to > each email message as it comes in -- to facilitate future findings? I file each list in it's own folder. I might file multiple related lists in the same folder. > > Furthermore, I cannot search for articles in the past because I > recycle and > archive my email (as should do everybody) because this keeps my > application > and database slim, sporty and fast (Entourage in my case). I think that this is an Entourage failing, Spotlight should help in searching messages with the latest version. Apple Mail has always been faster in searching in my opinion. > > A forum is in every aspect better: > > 1. A forum can be organized in Tutorials, Stickies, numerous > Subtopics (for > example synch issues vs. application install issues -- to name a few). > > 2. A board can allow attached images (screenshots) of problematic > constallations (error messages, lenghty log reports, window and > preference > settings). > > 3. vBulletin also allows "related" topics which serves a novice as > it offers > alternative verbage to a subject which lets the novice then > successfully > search for a solution if he or she can't find it. Keep in mind that > novices > often don't know how to express themselves, yet alone to "search" the > solution. A novice rather want's to "find" a solution by BROWSING > magazine > style content rather than scrolling through ENDLESS emails - in > ASCII... Web based forums have their downsides as well. One must be online to do anything with the forum. You can't catch up on some older issues while traveling, for instance. One must visit the forum regularly to see if there are any new messages. You don't know if something is new or interesting until you log on. This is fundamentally the difference between a push (email) and pull (web) technology. RSS helps make web technologies look like push technologies at the expense of bandwidth and CPU time. > > Think about this: why does Apple use a discussion forum and not an > email > list? Answer: because that company reaches out for the novice. > Anybody who > encounters a problem and does not have the solution is a novice at > that > moment. Apple uses both. Most of the technical discussions are via email lists. Their forums are being abandoned as we speak because of the difficulty in controlling them. ... Glenn -- Glenn Henshaw Ottawa, Canada Email: thraxisp4@mac.com From hess2 at yacht.com Sun Aug 13 10:21:59 2006 From: hess2 at yacht.com (Paul List Hess) Date: Mon Aug 14 09:07:20 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] attempt to insert nil value Message-ID: My Mark/Space Contacts conduit constantly gets this error: [NSCFDictionary setObject:forKey:]: attempt to insert nil value I am running OS/X 10.4.7, Treo 700p Palm OS 5.4.9, and Missing Sync 5.1.0. Also possibly involved or complicit is Chronos SOHO Organizer 5.5.2. Does anyone know what causes this and what I can do about it? From hess2 at yacht.com Mon Aug 14 09:58:08 2006 From: hess2 at yacht.com (Paul List Hess) Date: Mon Aug 14 10:03:06 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] attempt to insert nil value Message-ID: My Mark/Space Contacts conduit constantly gets this error: [NSCFDictionary setObject:forKey:]: attempt to insert nil value I am running OS/X 10.4.7, Treo 700p Palm OS 5.4.9, and Missing Sync 5.1.0. Also possibly involved or complicit is Chronos SOHO Organizer 5.5.2. Does anyone know what causes this and what I can do about it? From tobiaseigen at gmail.com Mon Aug 14 11:04:33 2006 From: tobiaseigen at gmail.com (Tobias Eigen) Date: Mon Aug 14 11:04:24 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Google Calendar Sync, am I the only one? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2f401ce90608141104y488df802k259a1d2dacb3a081@mail.gmail.com> I too use Google calendar all day, and sync it to my palm tungsten calendar. But don't add to it from the tungsten - so yes the functionality is broken. I'd love to have 2-way sync working correctly. cheers, tobias On 8/12/06, TjL wrote: > I'm surprised not to see more people wanting a full two-way sync > solution for Google Calendar. > > As far as I can see there's only one program (and that's for Windows) > that is claiming to be able to do that. > > Are others just not using GCalendar or what? > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your subscribed email address to: > missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com > From sdweyhrich at cox.net Mon Aug 14 11:33:45 2006 From: sdweyhrich at cox.net (Steven Weyhrich) Date: Mon Aug 14 11:33:41 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Tech help Message-ID: So if I don't get any technical answers to my questions here, where should I go? ------------------------------------------------------- Steven Weyhrich --< Apple II History http://apple2history.org From sgruby at markspace.com Mon Aug 14 11:40:21 2006 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Mon Aug 14 11:40:13 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Tech help In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Aug 14, 2006, at 11:33 AM, Steven Weyhrich wrote: > So if I don't get any technical answers to my questions here, where > should I go? > There are many knowledge base articles there that answer many questions. If your question isn't answered in the knowledge base, there is a link to contacting support. This mailing list is a user mailing list for users to exchange ideas and information; it is not meant as a substitute for our technical support staff. -- Scott Gruby Mark/Space, Inc. Please visit for assistance with Mark/Space products. From missing at biggerhammer.org Mon Aug 14 11:57:22 2006 From: missing at biggerhammer.org (missing@biggerhammer.org) Date: Mon Aug 14 11:57:14 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: Evite, iCal, MS and time zones In-Reply-To: <200608141633.k7EGXb3Y009053@sparrow.markspace.com> References: <200608141633.k7EGXb3Y009053@sparrow.markspace.com> Message-ID: <55F8A114-ACB2-4371-8161-0EF7E41BDECE@biggerhammer.org> Yes, they're the same... All other events show up on the correct day and time. Events entered with a different time zone than the Tungsten C, show up at the wrong time on the Tungsten. I created an event in iCal. It is at 4:00am GMT on Sunday, September 17. On the actual calendar in iCal it shows up properly, as 9:00pm PDT on Saturday, September 16. But, when I sync it to my Tungsten C it shows up as 4:00am on Sunday, September 17 (local time). I'm guessing the Tungsten C doesn't support time zones for events other than local/primary. That and the fact you don't get the option for a time zone when creating a new event on the Tungsten C. This is slightly off topic for the list but, can anyone point out which Palm devices support time zones for events? Thanks > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 14:00:27 -0500 > From: Steven Weyhrich > Subject: Re: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Evite, iCal, MS and time zones > To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Palm OS\) Discussion List" > > Message-ID: <5DD34E30-0D68-4231-A708-257F3063C24B@cox.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > This is probably so simplistic an answer that it is something you've > already checked, but you have your computer and your Treo set to the > same time zone, right? > > ------------------------ > Steven Weyhrich > > On Aug 11, 2006, at 12:51 PM, missing@biggerhammer.org wrote: > >> I'm using iCal Version 2.0.3 (1055), MS 5.1.0 (131), Mac OS X >> 10.4.7 (8J135). I'm using the standard Palm PIM on the Tungsten. >> >> When I add a Evite to iCal it is displayed correctly and respects >> my time zone. But on the right in the details of the event, it is >> displayed as UTC/GMT. So that is fine. But, when I sync, it appears >> on my Tungsten C as the UTC/GMT. I'm on the west coast PDT, >> currently. In other words, an event on Thursday night, 8/10/06, >> shows up early Friday morning, 8/12/06, on the Tungsten but is >> shows up in the right place in iCal. >> >> Is there an easy fix for this that I'm overlooking? >> >> Thanks >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >> To unsubscribe, send an email (no subject required) from your >> subscribed email address to: >> missing-sync-palmos-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com From stan at temple.edu Mon Aug 14 12:29:50 2006 From: stan at temple.edu (Stan Horwitz) Date: Mon Aug 14 12:31:53 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: Google Calendar Sync, am I the only one? (TjL) In-Reply-To: <200608141909.k7EJ9FJQ003553@sparrow.markspace.com> References: <200608141909.k7EJ9FJQ003553@sparrow.markspace.com> Message-ID: <1148B40A-9EF7-4B47-848E-B3C192810F14@temple.edu> On Aug 14, 2006, at 3:09 PM ? 8/14/06, missing-sync-palmos-talk- request@lists.markspace.com wrote: > > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 11:04:33 -0700 > From: "Tobias Eigen" > Subject: Re: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Google Calendar Sync, am I the > only one? > To: "The Missing Sync (Mac/Palm OS) Discussion List" > > Message-ID: > <2f401ce90608141104y488df802k259a1d2dacb3a081@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > I too use Google calendar all day, and sync it to my palm tungsten > calendar. But don't add to it from the tungsten - so yes the > functionality is broken. I'd love to have 2-way sync working > correctly. > > cheers, > > tobias > > On 8/12/06, TjL wrote: >> I'm surprised not to see more people wanting a full two-way sync >> solution for Google Calendar. >> >> As far as I can see there's only one program (and that's for Windows) >> that is claiming to be able to do that. >> >> Are others just not using GCalendar or what? To each his own. I am happy syncing my two Macs with iCal. I prefer iCal over Google calendar for several reasons. Mostly, I like the integration that iCal has with the other software I use such as Mail.app. From tobiaseigen at gmail.com Mon Aug 14 13:23:22 2006 From: tobiaseigen at gmail.com (Tobias Eigen) Date: Mon Aug 14 13:23:11 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: Google Calendar Sync, am I the only one? (TjL) In-Reply-To: <1148B40A-9EF7-4B47-848E-B3C192810F14@temple.edu> References: <200608141909.k7EJ9FJQ003553@sparrow.markspace.com> <1148B40A-9EF7-4B47-848E-B3C192810F14@temple.edu> Message-ID: <2f401ce90608141323k73396ca8p7ebf43189bffb031@mail.gmail.com> > To each his own. I am happy syncing my two Macs with iCal. I prefer > iCal over Google calendar for several reasons. Mostly, I like the > integration that iCal has with the other software I use such as > Mail.app. Yup. Agreed here - perhaps the integration that is needed is not between Google Calendar and Missing Sync, but between iCal and Google Calendar. Cheers, Tobias From kibalapa at netscape.net Sun Aug 13 13:46:49 2006 From: kibalapa at netscape.net (Piotr A. Kibala) Date: Mon Aug 14 15:55:03 2006 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] All third party conduits --- error0x400a Message-ID: <234BE550.5A546031.009E7061@netscape.net> Hi Paul: I uninstalled Missing Sync using the Uninstaller from the Missing Sync folder. I then installed Palm Software using the CD that came with my Sprint Treo 700p. I Hot Synced, and all worked well. I installed Documents to Go (DTG) - including the patch suggested by both M/S and DataViz. Another Hot Sync and all is well. Several more Hot Syncs and no problems to report - all conduits work as designed: Pkt Quicken 2.5, SplashID, DTG, Splash Photo... I installed Missing Sync, checked for conflicts, activated Missing Sync conduits and synced. The sync was long and produced a bunch of errors - see below. It was showing installation of DTG components - I couldnot understand why? They were already installed. I activated desktop portion of DTG and found corrupt categories. Before I had four options Personal, Busines, Unfiled, and Edit - see the screen shot of the corrupt categories. I will try again to uninstall and reinstall. I am concerned that I am not completely uninsatlling Missing Sync. After Uninstall of Missing Sync, Installing Palm Desktop, and Installing Missing Sync I could see that Missing Sync Conduits contained info about pevious syncs. How did you accomplish complete uninstall of Missing Sync? Also, there is no Uninsatll for Palm Desktop. Did you un insatlll it somehow as M/S support suggested to me? Thank you for your help. Regards, Piotr A. Kibala Sync starting at 8/13/06 1:24 PM (13:24:33) on USB (5.1.0) OK Install (Mark/Space MemoPad) NSRangeException *** -[NSCFArray objectAtIndex:]: index (7) beyond bounds (6) Task conduit was unable to open the Task database on the handheld. Failed Mark/Space Tasks (0x4403) OK Mark/Space Contacts OK Mark/Space Events OK Mark/Space Folder Sync OK Documents To Go Failed SplashID (0x400a) DocsToGo.prc installed Dxtgcon.pdb installed GraphicsLibrary.prc installed SheetToGo.prc installed SS_P2P.prc installed WordToGo.prc installed WP_P2P.prc installed WTGFontPackage.pdb installed OK Install Backed up AddressingLibRecent-HsCh Backed up ADD052VData Backed up CarrierProfiles2 Backed up ContactsDB-PAdd Backed up CalendarDB-PDat Backed up MemosDB-PMem Backed up TasksDB-PTod Backed up Queries Backed up AddressDB Backed up DatebookDB Backed up ToDoDB Backed up MMIDCache0 Backed up MMIDCache1 Backed up MultiMail Messages Backed up MultiMail Disconnected Backed up MultiMail Attachments Backed up WordToGoFonts Backed up SlideshowFonts Backed up English_Am.lex Backed up English_Am.lex.usr Backed up midataidcache Backed up Messages Database Backed up NetworkProfiles2 Backed up PQKN-Accounts Backed up PQKN-Transactions Backed up PQKN-Lists Backed up PQKN-Memorized Backed up PocketTunesPL-TNpt Def PL Backed up - Getting Started Tips -.PDB Backed up SplashIDDB2-SpId Backed up Blazer URL Autofill Backed up Blazer Field Autofill Backed up BackupMan Backed up SmartChart Backed up DXTGAttachmentPlugin Backed up PicsToGo Backed up SheetToGo Backed up DocsToGo Backed up WordView+ Backed up On Demand for Palm OS Backed up PP_P2P Backed up SS_P2P Backed up SlideshowToGo Backed up SplashPhoto Backed up WP_P2P Backed up PhoneCallDB Backed up SPCategoryDB-SpPh Backed up DGraphConverter Backed up DSlideLib Backed up GraphicsLibrary Backed up LexLib Backed up psysLaunchDB Backed up DXTGMailPlugin Backed up Saved Preferences Backed up DTTFonts Archived - Getting Started Tips -.PD.pdb Archived - Getting Started Tips -2.P.pdb Archived - Getting Started Tips -2.PDB.pdb Archived Beach.jpg.pdb Archived Blue Flower.jpg.pdb Archived Caterpillar.jpg.pdb Archived ConnectionLibrary for PalmO.prc Archived Dxtgcon.pdb.pdb Archived Evening Light.jpg.pdb Archived Handmark Express for Palm O.prc Archived Lighthouse.jpg.pdb Archived On Demand- Directions [Cach.pdb Archived On Demand- Weather Info Cac.pdb Archived Purple Flower.jpg.pdb Archived Rocks.jpg.pdb Archived Seastack.jpg.pdb Archived SPVolumeCache-SpPh.dat.pdb Archived Suite in F - Harvey Reid.mp.pdb Archived Sunset.jpg.pdb Archived Waterfall.jpg.pdb Archived White Flower.jpg.pdb Archived Yellow and Pink Flowers.jpg.pdb OK Backup Sync completed successfully at 8/13/06 2:10 PM (14:10:44) Paul List Hess wrote: >X-INFO: INVALID TO LINE >Hi Piotr, > >I'm pretty sure the uninstall is what did it. ?I retested every time I tried anything. ?Also in retrospect I had some strangeness during my initial install that might have caused it ... I think it locked up after the install was complete and I had to restart the system. > >Prior to the uninstall, I had tried turning things on/off one at a time to see if I could determined which conduit might have caused the problem, but didn't get anywhere on it. > > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? - Paul > >At 12:45 AM -0400 8/10/06, Piotr A. Kibala wrote: >>Hi Paul: >> >>I have similar problem to the one you reported. Number of third party conduits returned error (0x400a) while M/S conduits worked fine. You reported that uninstalling and reinstalling Missing Sync cured the problem. I tried this approach but no luck. What else have you tried before the uninstall. Perhaps it was a combination of things. >> >>Thank you for any help you can offer. >> >>Regards, >> >>Piotr A. Kibala >> >> >>Typical sync log: >> >>Sync starting at 8/9/06 11:06 PM (23:06:21) on USB (5.1.0) >>OK Install >>OK Mark/Space Events >>OK Mark/Space Contacts >>OK Mark/Space MemoPad >>OK Mark/Space Tasks >>Failed Pocket Quicken 2.5 (0x400a) >>OK Install >>Sync completed successfully at 8/9/06 11:08 PM (23:08:28) >> >>I wonder about two instances of OK Install especially the second one right after the failed conduit. >> >>My configuration: >> >>Missing Sync: 5.1.0 (131) >>PowerBook G4 >>OS X 10.4.7 >>Treo 700p (Sprint) >>Palm OS 5.4 >> >> >>__________________________________________________________________ >>Switch to Netscape Internet Service. >>As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register >> >>Netscape. Just the Net You Need. >> >>New! 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