From pianojoyy at ix.netcom.com Thu Sep 1 07:43:12 2005 From: pianojoyy at ix.netcom.com (Priscilla Heffield) Date: Thu Sep 1 07:43:17 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] syncing problem Message-ID: <581cb85d2fd5f046f3116e9340178ebf@ix.netcom.com> I have been getting a "file is busy" message when syncing my T3 to Palm 4 on Panther. Now my calendar items, especially untimed ones, are duplicating when I sync. There is also a message now that a "[something] is locked". I tried changing all conduit settings to "do nothing", sync, then sync again with them set on "synchronize", but the same problem occurred. I'm not very technically savvy, so please be specific. Any advice will help. Thanks. Priscilla From angelitos0 at mac.com Thu Sep 1 12:24:48 2005 From: angelitos0 at mac.com (Dennis Raphael) Date: Thu Sep 1 12:24:57 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] iSync - iCal - Treo 650 Message-ID: <30DBF651-C6CF-4D18-934C-C064806186D1@mac.com> Dear Friends I has a power book with OSX 10.4.2, a Treo 650 1.28, Missing Sync 4.0.6 and iSycn 2.1 When I try to sync iCal evens the first time with the Treo it only sync a few events and not all. What can I do? Thank you From donald.stidwell at gmail.com Thu Sep 1 16:39:42 2005 From: donald.stidwell at gmail.com (Donald E. Stidwell) Date: Thu Sep 1 16:39:46 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Unable to get Internet Sharing to work over BT Message-ID: I've looked over the archives of this list and don't see where this issue has really appeared except for Treo users. However, I'm using the latest version of MS for Palm (4.06) with a fully patched/updated Tiger running on a Mac mini and a T5 for my PDA. For the life of me, I can not get the internet sharing to work with my setup over Bluetooth. I am using a BT dongle attached to a USB hub (no choice - the Mac mini only has two USB ports) and BT works perfectly with my Nokia 3660 and synchronising to iCal and Address Book via iSync. So I'm sure it's not a problem with the BT dongle nor the fact that it's connected to a hub. I did explicitly follow the instructions in the Internet Sharing assistant with no joy. When I try to connect from my T5, I get an error: "Serial: timeout. Could be bad cable or faulty Modem. (0x0305). If I look in BT Prefs from System preferences, I see that the T5 is in fact connected to my Mac and in MS, I do have Internet Sharing selected. Any ideas on what I could be missing? Thanks. Don -- Romans 1:16 - For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to everyone that believeth... -------- Sent using Apple Mail on OS X Tiger From rob.gendreau at gmail.com Thu Sep 1 19:57:11 2005 From: rob.gendreau at gmail.com (Rob Gendreau) Date: Thu Sep 1 19:57:16 2005 Subject: =?WINDOWS-1252?Q?Re:_[missing-sync-palmos-talk]_Re:_Can=92t_netw?= =?WINDOWS-1252?Q?ork_sync_with_wifi_from_Tungsten_T5?= In-Reply-To: References: <7D614C63-EA7D-4C7D-A521-8256EBE5A5B4@gmail.com> <8F31C6F5-009B-4326-9CBC-C6A4FFEB78F1@markspace.com> Message-ID: <15D39ABD-0B56-406F-91F4-34D74C937537@gmail.com> Did that. Only difference is that I use ?WiFi? as the service instead of ?Windows RAS.? Doesn?t work. On Aug 30, 2005, at 8:54 PM, Scott Gruby wrote: > Make sure you have HotSync setup properly on the handheld. Our > Network Sync Assistant walks you through this. Specifically make > sure that the Mac's IP address is in both the computer name and > Primary PC address fields. From rob.gendreau at gmail.com Thu Sep 1 20:08:00 2005 From: rob.gendreau at gmail.com (Rob Gendreau) Date: Thu Sep 1 20:08:04 2005 Subject: =?WINDOWS-1252?Q?Re:_[missing-sync-palmos-talk]_Re:_Can=92t_netw?= =?WINDOWS-1252?Q?ork_sync_with_wifi_from_Tungsten_T5?= In-Reply-To: <82BF7C62-69E9-4925-8C52-B58807B2EDAD@markspace.com> References: <7D614C63-EA7D-4C7D-A521-8256EBE5A5B4@gmail.com> <8F31C6F5-009B-4326-9CBC-C6A4FFEB78F1@markspace.com> <82BF7C62-69E9-4925-8C52-B58807B2EDAD@markspace.com> Message-ID: Did that. DID WORK!!!! Yahoo! and thanks. Gotta tell ya, though, that this tip should be in your Network Sync Assistant; at least mention it. Lots of use firewalls. The weird thing is that I usually keep the firewall on all the time and I swear I got it to work once when the firewall was on but this port wasn?t open. BTW, I don?t seem to have the problem that others have had where you have to reenter the Mac?s name. If that?s due to Missing Sync, my hat?s off to you a second time. Keep up the good work, Rob On Aug 31, 2005, at 9:17 AM, Scott Gruby wrote: > Also, if you have the Mac's firewall turned on, either turn it off > or open port 14238. From sgruby at markspace.com Thu Sep 1 20:23:30 2005 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Thu Sep 1 20:23:37 2005 Subject: =?WINDOWS-1252?Q?Re:_[missing-sync-palmos-talk]_Re:_Can=92t_netw?= =?WINDOWS-1252?Q?ork_sync_with_wifi_from_Tungsten_T5?= In-Reply-To: References: <7D614C63-EA7D-4C7D-A521-8256EBE5A5B4@gmail.com> <8F31C6F5-009B-4326-9CBC-C6A4FFEB78F1@markspace.com> <82BF7C62-69E9-4925-8C52-B58807B2EDAD@markspace.com> Message-ID: <70AE5757-CAFE-4ECF-ADD3-8A8959F919EA@markspace.com> On Sep 1, 2005, at 8:08 PM, Rob Gendreau wrote: > Did that. DID WORK!!!! Yahoo! and thanks. > > Gotta tell ya, though, that this tip should be in your Network Sync > Assistant; at least mention it. Lots of use firewalls. The weird > thing is that I usually keep the firewall on all the time and I > swear I got it to work once when the firewall was on but this port > wasn?t open. > I'll see if we can get this fixed for the next revision. -- Scott Gruby Lead Engineer Mark/Space, Inc. Please visit for assistance with Mark/Space products. From tj722 at hotmail.com Fri Sep 2 11:55:01 2005 From: tj722 at hotmail.com (TJ) Date: Fri Sep 2 11:56:30 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Flaky Hotsync and SD card mounting issues Message-ID: I've had this problem for several months now but it's getting more and more frequent so I thought I'd ask this list for help. I've got a Treo 650, Mac OS X 10.4.2, Missing Sync 4.0.6 When I try to hotsync using my USB cable most of the time it does not respond. However, every now and then (about 10% of the time) it starts synchronizing. Once it starts synching it usually completes, but sometimes, even then it gets stuck at the "Identifying User" step and cannot continue. I've removed all of the conduits and this behavior still continues. Another problem I have is with the SD card mount. When I start the Missing Sync app on my Treo, iPhoto starts and then I get a "Device Removal Error." At this point my system usually becomes unstable in that I am unable to start any additional apps on my Mac. I've tried running the MS installer over but that hasn't helped. Bluetooth syncing works every time, but I don't do it that often, so I'm not sure if the problem would show up there. It's too slow for me, so I'd rather get the USB syncing working. From hsmoliar at bellatlantic.net Fri Sep 2 12:13:21 2005 From: hsmoliar at bellatlantic.net (Harold Smoliar) Date: Fri Sep 2 12:13:30 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Flaky Hotsync and SD card mounting issues In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <790BBB7A-671C-484B-9DB5-7FD651D9A912@bellatlantic.net> I have the exact same problem. Treo 650 (Verizon), Mac OS X 10.4.2, Missing Sync 4.0.6, Now Up to Date and Contact 5.0.4 I haven't had the SD card problem but probably only because I never do that. I can make it hotsync if I launch Missing Sync before pressing the button to initiate the hotsync. Mine usually sticks at the Media conduit if it is going to stick. On Sep 2, 2005, at 2:55 PM, TJ wrote: > I've had this problem for several months now but it's getting more > and more > frequent so I thought I'd ask this list for help. > > I've got a Treo 650, Mac OS X 10.4.2, Missing Sync 4.0.6 > > When I try to hotsync using my USB cable most of the time it does not > respond. However, every now and then (about 10% of the time) it starts > synchronizing. Once it starts synching it usually completes, but > sometimes, > even then it gets stuck at the "Identifying User" step and cannot > continue. > > I've removed all of the conduits and this behavior still continues. > > Another problem I have is with the SD card mount. When I start the > Missing > Sync app on my Treo, iPhoto starts and then I get a "Device Removal > Error." > At this point my system usually becomes unstable in that I am > unable to > start any additional apps on my Mac. > > I've tried running the MS installer over but that hasn't helped. > > Bluetooth syncing works every time, but I don't do it that often, > so I'm not > sure if the problem would show up there. It's too slow for me, so > I'd rather > get the USB syncing working. > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives > can be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > Harold Smoliar English horn, Pittsburgh Symphony Piano, White Tie Group harold@whitetiegroup.com www.whitetiegroup.com From eullman at markspace.com Fri Sep 2 16:03:33 2005 From: eullman at markspace.com (Eric Ullman) Date: Fri Sep 2 16:03:36 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Flaky Hotsync and SD card mounting issues In-Reply-To: <790BBB7A-671C-484B-9DB5-7FD651D9A912@bellatlantic.net> Message-ID: The newer cables (T5, 650, etc.) have been known to need a little "help" to maintain a successful connection. Try applying a slight amount of pressure (as in don't break it) to the cable connector where it meets the Treo. You may have to press up slightly or down slightly (with the Treo resting screen side up). Hope this helps. Eric On 9/2/05 12:13, "Harold Smoliar" wrote: > I have the exact same problem. Treo 650 (Verizon), Mac OS X 10.4.2, Missing > Sync 4.0.6, Now Up to Date and Contact 5.0.4 > > > On Sep 2, 2005, at 2:55 PM, TJ wrote: > >> I've had this problem for several months now but it's getting more and more >> frequent so I thought I'd ask this list for help. >> >> I've got a Treo 650, Mac OS X 10.4.2, Missing Sync 4.0.6 >> >> When I try to hotsync using my USB cable most of the time it does not >> respond. However, every now and then (about 10% of the time) it starts >> synchronizing. Once it starts synching it usually completes, but sometimes, >> even then it gets stuck at the "Identifying User" step and cannot continue. >> >> I've removed all of the conduits and this behavior still continues. >> >> Another problem I have is with the SD card mount. When I start the Missing >> Sync app on my Treo, iPhoto starts and then I get a "Device Removal Error." >> At this point my system usually becomes unstable in that I am unable to >> start any additional apps on my Mac. From miketall at mac.com Fri Sep 2 17:22:47 2005 From: miketall at mac.com (Mac Mike) Date: Fri Sep 2 17:22:54 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Flaky Hotsync and SD card mounting issues In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I agree with Eric on this. The travel cables for both my cell phone and my Palm T2 have this flaky connection issue. I have to make sure I place it on a flat surface with no tension or angle on the cord and make sure the cable is firmly connected. I have even started to have this issue with the USB cradle. I've been using it for over 2 years now and remove my T2 a few times every day. On occasion, I've mounted it on a slight angle and it can have complications during the sync. I doubt if this is the issue with everybody out there, but I'd sure double-check it. -Mike On 9/2/05 7:03 PM, "Eric Ullman" wrote: > The newer cables (T5, 650, etc.) have been known to need a little "help" to > maintain a successful connection. > > Try applying a slight amount of pressure (as in don't break it) to the cable > connector where it meets the Treo. You may have to press up slightly or down > slightly (with the Treo resting screen side up). > > Hope this helps. > > Eric > > > On 9/2/05 12:13, "Harold Smoliar" wrote: > >> I have the exact same problem. Treo 650 (Verizon), Mac OS X 10.4.2, Missing >> Sync 4.0.6, Now Up to Date and Contact 5.0.4 >> >> >> On Sep 2, 2005, at 2:55 PM, TJ wrote: >> >>> I've had this problem for several months now but it's getting more and more >>> frequent so I thought I'd ask this list for help. >>> >>> I've got a Treo 650, Mac OS X 10.4.2, Missing Sync 4.0.6 >>> >>> When I try to hotsync using my USB cable most of the time it does not >>> respond. However, every now and then (about 10% of the time) it starts >>> synchronizing. Once it starts synching it usually completes, but sometimes, >>> even then it gets stuck at the "Identifying User" step and cannot continue. >>> >>> I've removed all of the conduits and this behavior still continues. >>> >>> Another problem I have is with the SD card mount. When I start the Missing >>> Sync app on my Treo, iPhoto starts and then I get a "Device Removal Error." >>> At this point my system usually becomes unstable in that I am unable to >>> start any additional apps on my Mac. From aller at umich.edu Fri Sep 2 19:29:36 2005 From: aller at umich.edu (Roger A. Ruedisueli) Date: Fri Sep 2 19:29:41 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Flaky Hotsync and SD card mounting issues In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: There's a great little freeware utility I found to help diagnose this problem. It's called USB Monitor ( http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/ moreinfo/macosx/15980 ). It's a little program that notifies you whenever a USB device is attached or detached. When you press the hotsync button, you should immediately see that your Treo is attached. No notification = no physical connection. Roger On Sep 2, 2005, at 5:22 PM, Mac Mike wrote: > I agree with Eric on this. The travel cables for both my cell > phone and my > Palm T2 have this flaky connection issue. I have to make sure I > place it on > a flat surface with no tension or angle on the cord and make sure > the cable > is firmly connected. > > I have even started to have this issue with the USB cradle. I've > been using > it for over 2 years now and remove my T2 a few times every day. On > occasion, I've mounted it on a slight angle and it can have > complications > during the sync. > > I doubt if this is the issue with everybody out there, but I'd sure > double-check it. > > -Mike > > > On 9/2/05 7:03 PM, "Eric Ullman" wrote: > > >> The newer cables (T5, 650, etc.) have been known to need a little >> "help" to >> maintain a successful connection. >> >> Try applying a slight amount of pressure (as in don't break it) to >> the cable >> connector where it meets the Treo. You may have to press up >> slightly or down >> slightly (with the Treo resting screen side up). >> >> Hope this helps. >> >> Eric >> >> >> On 9/2/05 12:13, "Harold Smoliar" wrote: >> >> >>> I have the exact same problem. Treo 650 (Verizon), Mac OS X >>> 10.4.2, Missing >>> Sync 4.0.6, Now Up to Date and Contact 5.0.4 >>> >>> >>> On Sep 2, 2005, at 2:55 PM, TJ wrote: >>> >>> >>>> I've had this problem for several months now but it's getting >>>> more and more >>>> frequent so I thought I'd ask this list for help. >>>> >>>> I've got a Treo 650, Mac OS X 10.4.2, Missing Sync 4.0.6 >>>> >>>> When I try to hotsync using my USB cable most of the time it >>>> does not >>>> respond. However, every now and then (about 10% of the time) it >>>> starts >>>> synchronizing. Once it starts synching it usually completes, >>>> but sometimes, >>>> even then it gets stuck at the "Identifying User" step and >>>> cannot continue. >>>> >>>> I've removed all of the conduits and this behavior still continues. >>>> >>>> Another problem I have is with the SD card mount. When I start >>>> the Missing >>>> Sync app on my Treo, iPhoto starts and then I get a "Device >>>> Removal Error." >>>> At this point my system usually becomes unstable in that I am >>>> unable to >>>> start any additional apps on my Mac. >>>> > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives > can be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > From hsmoliar at bellatlantic.net Fri Sep 2 19:55:10 2005 From: hsmoliar at bellatlantic.net (Harold Smoliar) Date: Fri Sep 2 19:55:20 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Flaky Hotsync and SD card mounting issues In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6B7F1888-061D-4501-AD21-4A8991E94308@bellatlantic.net> No USB Monitor says that it is attached and working but still no luck. I am using a cradle. I press the button, the icon bounces in the dock and then stops bouncing. H On Sep 2, 2005, at 10:29 PM, Roger A. Ruedisueli wrote: > There's a great little freeware utility I found to help diagnose > this problem. It's called USB Monitor ( http:// > www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/15980 ). It's a little > program that notifies you whenever a USB device is attached or > detached. When you press the hotsync button, you should immediately > see that your Treo is attached. No notification = no physical > connection. > > Roger > > > On Sep 2, 2005, at 5:22 PM, Mac Mike wrote: > > >> I agree with Eric on this. The travel cables for both my cell >> phone and my >> Palm T2 have this flaky connection issue. I have to make sure I >> place it on >> a flat surface with no tension or angle on the cord and make sure >> the cable >> is firmly connected. >> >> I have even started to have this issue with the USB cradle. I've >> been using >> it for over 2 years now and remove my T2 a few times every day. On >> occasion, I've mounted it on a slight angle and it can have >> complications >> during the sync. >> >> I doubt if this is the issue with everybody out there, but I'd sure >> double-check it. >> >> -Mike >> >> >> On 9/2/05 7:03 PM, "Eric Ullman" wrote: >> >> >> >>> The newer cables (T5, 650, etc.) have been known to need a little >>> "help" to >>> maintain a successful connection. >>> >>> Try applying a slight amount of pressure (as in don't break it) >>> to the cable >>> connector where it meets the Treo. You may have to press up >>> slightly or down >>> slightly (with the Treo resting screen side up). >>> >>> Hope this helps. >>> >>> Eric >>> >>> >>> On 9/2/05 12:13, "Harold Smoliar" wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> I have the exact same problem. Treo 650 (Verizon), Mac OS X >>>> 10.4.2, Missing >>>> Sync 4.0.6, Now Up to Date and Contact 5.0.4 >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sep 2, 2005, at 2:55 PM, TJ wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> I've had this problem for several months now but it's getting >>>>> more and more >>>>> frequent so I thought I'd ask this list for help. >>>>> >>>>> I've got a Treo 650, Mac OS X 10.4.2, Missing Sync 4.0.6 >>>>> >>>>> When I try to hotsync using my USB cable most of the time it >>>>> does not >>>>> respond. However, every now and then (about 10% of the time) it >>>>> starts >>>>> synchronizing. Once it starts synching it usually completes, >>>>> but sometimes, >>>>> even then it gets stuck at the "Identifying User" step and >>>>> cannot continue. >>>>> >>>>> I've removed all of the conduits and this behavior still >>>>> continues. >>>>> >>>>> Another problem I have is with the SD card mount. When I start >>>>> the Missing >>>>> Sync app on my Treo, iPhoto starts and then I get a "Device >>>>> Removal Error." >>>>> At this point my system usually becomes unstable in that I am >>>>> unable to >>>>> start any additional apps on my Mac. >>>>> >>>>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives >> can be found at: >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives > can be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > Harold Smoliar English horn, Pittsburgh Symphony Piano, White Tie Group harold@whitetiegroup.com www.whitetiegroup.com From tj722 at hotmail.com Fri Sep 2 20:01:52 2005 From: tj722 at hotmail.com (TJ) Date: Fri Sep 2 20:01:58 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Flaky Hotsync and SD card mounting issues In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks for the pointer to the great software! That was exactly the kind of thing that I was looking for. Of course, now when I have the USB Monitor running it connects every time. Sometimes it still gets stuck on the "Identifying User" step though. TJ On 9/2/05 7:29 PM, "Roger A. Ruedisueli" wrote: > There's a great little freeware utility I found to help diagnose this > problem. It's called USB Monitor ( http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/ > moreinfo/macosx/15980 ). It's a little program that notifies you > whenever a USB device is attached or detached. When you press the > hotsync button, you should immediately see that your Treo is > attached. No notification = no physical connection. > > Roger > > > On Sep 2, 2005, at 5:22 PM, Mac Mike wrote: > >> I agree with Eric on this. The travel cables for both my cell >> phone and my >> Palm T2 have this flaky connection issue. I have to make sure I >> place it on >> a flat surface with no tension or angle on the cord and make sure >> the cable >> is firmly connected. >> >> I have even started to have this issue with the USB cradle. I've >> been using >> it for over 2 years now and remove my T2 a few times every day. On >> occasion, I've mounted it on a slight angle and it can have >> complications >> during the sync. >> >> I doubt if this is the issue with everybody out there, but I'd sure >> double-check it. >> >> -Mike >> >> >> On 9/2/05 7:03 PM, "Eric Ullman" wrote: >> >> >>> The newer cables (T5, 650, etc.) have been known to need a little >>> "help" to >>> maintain a successful connection. >>> >>> Try applying a slight amount of pressure (as in don't break it) to >>> the cable >>> connector where it meets the Treo. You may have to press up >>> slightly or down >>> slightly (with the Treo resting screen side up). >>> >>> Hope this helps. >>> >>> Eric >>> >>> >>> On 9/2/05 12:13, "Harold Smoliar" wrote: >>> >>> >>>> I have the exact same problem. Treo 650 (Verizon), Mac OS X >>>> 10.4.2, Missing >>>> Sync 4.0.6, Now Up to Date and Contact 5.0.4 >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sep 2, 2005, at 2:55 PM, TJ wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> I've had this problem for several months now but it's getting >>>>> more and more >>>>> frequent so I thought I'd ask this list for help. >>>>> >>>>> I've got a Treo 650, Mac OS X 10.4.2, Missing Sync 4.0.6 >>>>> >>>>> When I try to hotsync using my USB cable most of the time it >>>>> does not >>>>> respond. However, every now and then (about 10% of the time) it >>>>> starts >>>>> synchronizing. Once it starts synching it usually completes, >>>>> but sometimes, >>>>> even then it gets stuck at the "Identifying User" step and >>>>> cannot continue. >>>>> >>>>> I've removed all of the conduits and this behavior still continues. >>>>> >>>>> Another problem I have is with the SD card mount. When I start >>>>> the Missing >>>>> Sync app on my Treo, iPhoto starts and then I get a "Device >>>>> Removal Error." >>>>> At this point my system usually becomes unstable in that I am >>>>> unable to >>>>> start any additional apps on my Mac. >>>>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives >> can be found at: >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk >> > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > From eullman at markspace.com Sat Sep 3 07:03:18 2005 From: eullman at markspace.com (Eric Ullman) Date: Sat Sep 3 07:03:22 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Flaky Hotsync and SD card mounting issues In-Reply-To: <6B7F1888-061D-4501-AD21-4A8991E94308@bellatlantic.net> Message-ID: Hi Harold, Thanks for the additional description with the bouncing Dock icon. Do you have Documents to Go installed on your Mac? DataViz has released a patch for their latest Mac version that fixes an issue just like the one you're seeing. I hope this does it for you. Best, Eric On 9/2/05 19:55, "Harold Smoliar" wrote: > No > USB Monitor says that it is attached and working but still no luck. > I am using a cradle. I press the button, the icon bounces in the dock > and then stops bouncing. > H From missing-sync-palmos-talk at sjk.us Sat Sep 3 13:52:14 2005 From: missing-sync-palmos-talk at sjk.us (Scott J. Kramer) Date: Sat Sep 3 13:52:24 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Flaky Hotsync and SD card mounting issues In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: --On September 2, 2005 19:29:36 -0700 "Roger A. Ruedisueli" wrote: > There's a great little freeware utility I found to help diagnose this > problem. It's called USB Monitor ( http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/ > moreinfo/macosx/15980 ). It's a little program that notifies you > whenever a USB device is attached or detached. HardwareGrowler is a more generalized Growl-based alternative: It supports other devices besides USB, including Bluetooth. Looks nice with the Bezel display. It's an extra included with the Growl distribution, downloadable from: -sjk From arara at wwalex.com Sun Sep 4 09:24:42 2005 From: arara at wwalex.com (Alessandro Vancheri) Date: Sun Sep 4 09:24:48 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] USB sync not working anymore Message-ID: Last week I upgraded my imac G4 to a new imac G5, and now I'm not able anymore to have an USB sync. A bluetooth or wifi sync with the mac works fine, an USB sync with a pc (with the same cable) works ok. But I'm not able to mount or sync the TT3 on the mac by usb. If I start the sync or nothing happens until timeout or the sync fails on both the device and the mac. The software and the hardware on the mac is exactly the same of before. What can be happened? Many thanks. Alessandro From arara at wwalex.com Sun Sep 4 09:42:11 2005 From: arara at wwalex.com (Alessandro Vancheri) Date: Sun Sep 4 09:42:15 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] USB sync not working anymore In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9B9439A6-D72F-4C24-B47F-BF521C29AFF9@wwalex.com> Other info: - I plug the TT3 on the cradle and press the hotsync button - On the system profiler I see the palm in the USB section - In the system log I see: Sep 4 18:29:18 iMac kernel[0]: USBF: 6649.894 Palmare Palm [0x3018600]::GetFullConfigurationDescriptor - Error (e000404f) getting full 46 bytes of con fig descriptor Sep 4 18:29:19 iMac kernel[0]: USBF: 6650.196 Palmare Palm [0x3018600]::GetFullConfigurationDescriptor - Error (e000404f) getting full 46 bytes of con fig descriptor Sep 4 18:29:19 iMac kernel[0]: USBF: 6650.196 IOUSBCompositeDriver[0x28b3180](Palmare Palm ) GetFullConfigDescriptor (0) returned NULL Sep 4 18:29:19 iMac kernel[0]: USBF: 6650.201 Palmare Palm [0x3018600]::GetFullConfigurationDescriptor - Error (e000404f) getting full 46 bytes of con fig descriptor - No activity on missing sync - The TT3 hotsync timed-out The OS version is Mac OS X 10.4.2 (8C46) and the Missing Sync version is 4.0.6. The version of IOUSBCompositeDriver is 2.2.0 26/03/05 23:22. I haven't installed the palm desktop. I have also Missing Sync for Win Mobile and it works fine. Many thanks. Alessandro From sgruby at markspace.com Sun Sep 4 11:01:48 2005 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Sun Sep 4 11:01:54 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] USB sync not working anymore In-Reply-To: <9B9439A6-D72F-4C24-B47F-BF521C29AFF9@wwalex.com> References: <9B9439A6-D72F-4C24-B47F-BF521C29AFF9@wwalex.com> Message-ID: <244168BA-EAC4-4FD3-A859-E3C55310D2CD@markspace.com> On Sep 4, 2005, at 9:42 AM, Alessandro Vancheri wrote: > Other info: > > - I plug the TT3 on the cradle and press the hotsync button > - On the system profiler I see the palm in the USB section > - In the system log I see: > > Sep 4 18:29:18 iMac kernel[0]: USBF: 6649.894 Palmare > Palm [0x3018600]::GetFullConfigurationDescriptor - Error (e000404f) > getting full 46 bytes of con > fig descriptor > Sep 4 18:29:19 iMac kernel[0]: USBF: 6650.196 Palmare > Palm [0x3018600]::GetFullConfigurationDescriptor - Error (e000404f) > getting full 46 bytes of con > fig descriptor > Sep 4 18:29:19 iMac kernel[0]: USBF: 6650.196 > IOUSBCompositeDriver[0x28b3180](Palmare Palm ) > GetFullConfigDescriptor(0) returned NULL > Sep 4 18:29:19 iMac kernel[0]: USBF: 6650.201 Palmare > Palm [0x3018600]::GetFullConfigurationDescriptor - Error (e000404f) > getting full 46 bytes of con > fig descriptor > > - No activity on missing sync > - The TT3 hotsync timed-out > > The OS version is Mac OS X 10.4.2 (8C46) and the Missing Sync > version is 4.0.6. The version of IOUSBCompositeDriver is 2.2.0 > 26/03/05 23:22. I haven't installed the palm desktop. I have also > Missing Sync for Win Mobile and it works fine. > From your description of these error messages, it would appear that you need to do a soft reset on the T3 and if that fails, you should try the T3 on another machine to see if the same problem exists. Missing Sync (either sync or mounting) is not even going to get a chance to talk to the device until it properly registers on USB. These errors indicate it isn't registering. -- Scott Gruby Lead Engineer Mark/Space, Inc. Please visit for assistance with Mark/Space products. From arara at wwalex.com Sun Sep 4 11:49:09 2005 From: arara at wwalex.com (Alessandro Vancheri) Date: Sun Sep 4 11:49:11 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] USB sync not working anymore In-Reply-To: <244168BA-EAC4-4FD3-A859-E3C55310D2CD@markspace.com> References: <9B9439A6-D72F-4C24-B47F-BF521C29AFF9@wwalex.com> <244168BA-EAC4-4FD3-A859-E3C55310D2CD@markspace.com> Message-ID: Il giorno 04/set/05, alle ore 20:01, Scott Gruby ha scritto: > From your description of these error messages, it would appear that > you need to do a soft reset on the T3 and if that fails, you should > try the T3 on another machine to see if the same problem exists. > Missing Sync (either sync or mounting) is not even going to get a > chance to talk to the device until it properly registers on USB. > These errors indicate it isn't registering. Many thanks for your promptly response. I tried a lot of soft resets but nothing happened. The same T3 with the same cable works fine syncing with a pc. I tried different ports on the mac but nothing. I don't know where can be the problem. Could be the USB driver? Alessandro From sgruby at markspace.com Sun Sep 4 12:09:19 2005 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Sun Sep 4 12:09:24 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] USB sync not working anymore In-Reply-To: References: <9B9439A6-D72F-4C24-B47F-BF521C29AFF9@wwalex.com> <244168BA-EAC4-4FD3-A859-E3C55310D2CD@markspace.com> Message-ID: On Sep 4, 2005, at 11:49 AM, Alessandro Vancheri wrote: > Il giorno 04/set/05, alle ore 20:01, Scott Gruby ha scritto: > >> From your description of these error messages, it would appear >> that you need to do a soft reset on the T3 and if that fails, you >> should try the T3 on another machine to see if the same problem >> exists. Missing Sync (either sync or mounting) is not even going >> to get a chance to talk to the device until it properly registers >> on USB. These errors indicate it isn't registering. >> > > Many thanks for your promptly response. I tried a lot of soft > resets but nothing happened. The same T3 with the same cable works > fine syncing with a pc. I tried different ports on the mac but > nothing. I don't know where can be the problem. Could be the USB > driver? If possible, you should try the device on another Macintosh running Missing Sync. -- Scott Gruby Lead Engineer Mark/Space, Inc. Please visit for assistance with Mark/Space products. From PMalloy at Butler.org Mon Sep 5 06:51:04 2005 From: PMalloy at Butler.org (Paul Malloy) Date: Mon Sep 5 06:51:12 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Faillure to sync after hard drive restore References: <200509031900.j83J0Jx4027751@sparrow.markspace.com> Message-ID: I had to wipe my hard drive to install the new Mac OS (Tiger), and I am now unable to sync. I tried to back up my Palm and Missing Sync folders, but now my Treo goes thru the sync process but does not update. The conduits do not appear in Missing Sync application under the Conduits tab, except for Backup and Install. I restored the conduits to the folder MyUserName>Library>Palm Hotsync>Conduits. Is this the correct location? Am I doing something else wrong? Paul Malloy, PhD Butler Hospital 345 Blackstone Blvd Providence RI 02906 From plessard at mac.com Mon Sep 5 07:56:39 2005 From: plessard at mac.com (Pascal Lessard) Date: Mon Sep 5 07:56:43 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Faillure to sync after hard drive restore In-Reply-To: References: <200509031900.j83J0Jx4027751@sparrow.markspace.com> Message-ID: <23F8D411-8C48-4BC0-B72B-790D15D3D73E@mac.com> Hi Paul ! Le 2005-09-05 ? 09:51, Paul Malloy a ?crit : > I had to wipe my hard drive to install the new Mac OS (Tiger), and > I am now unable to sync. I tried to back up my Palm and Missing > Sync folders, but now my Treo goes thru the sync process but does > not update. The conduits do not appear in Missing Sync application > under the Conduits tab, except for Backup and Install. I restored > the conduits to the folder MyUserName>Library>Palm > Hotsync>Conduits. Is this the correct location? Am I doing > something else wrong? Try instead either : ~/Library/Application Support/Palm HotSync/Conduits (MyUserName = ~) or /Library/Application Support/Palm HotSync/Conduits Also, use Disk Utility to check and repair the file permissions. Yours, Pascal Lessard +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ "... there is nothing more difficult to take in hand, more perilous to conduct or more uncertain in its success than to take the lead in the introduction of a new order of things..." - Machiavelli +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brian_hall at markspace.com Mon Sep 5 10:41:21 2005 From: brian_hall at markspace.com (Brian Hall) Date: Mon Sep 5 10:41:25 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Faillure to sync after hard drive restore In-Reply-To: References: <200509031900.j83J0Jx4027751@sparrow.markspace.com> Message-ID: >I had to wipe my hard drive to install the new Mac OS (Tiger), and I am >now unable to sync. I tried to back up my Palm and Missing Sync folders, >but now my Treo goes thru the sync process but does not update. The >conduits do not appear in Missing Sync application under the Conduits tab, >except for Backup and Install. I restored the conduits to the folder >MyUserName>Library>Palm Hotsync>Conduits. Is this the correct location? Am >I doing something else wrong? > If you went from Panther to Tiger, it is important that you run iSync (after upgrading to Tiger) and pick "Enable Palm OS Syncing" from the menu in iSync, and then make sure all the settings are to your liking in both iSync and Missing Sync. Brian -- _____________________________________________________________________ Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 654 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 Los Gatos, CA 95030-4360 From hsmoliar at bellatlantic.net Mon Sep 5 11:41:46 2005 From: hsmoliar at bellatlantic.net (Harold Smoliar) Date: Mon Sep 5 11:41:47 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Flaky Hotsync and SD card mounting issues In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4D35CC25-DA3E-45B1-8C59-538D53527D82@bellatlantic.net> This was the answer. Thanks very much Harold On Sep 3, 2005, at 10:03 AM, Eric Ullman wrote: > Hi Harold, > > Thanks for the additional description with the bouncing Dock icon. > Do you > have Documents to Go installed on your Mac? DataViz has released a > patch for > their latest Mac version that fixes an issue just like the one you're > seeing. > > > > I hope this does it for you. > > Best, > Eric > > > On 9/2/05 19:55, "Harold Smoliar" wrote: > > >> No >> USB Monitor says that it is attached and working but still no luck. >> I am using a cradle. I press the button, the icon bounces in the dock >> and then stops bouncing. >> H >> > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives > can be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > Harold Smoliar English horn, Pittsburgh Symphony Piano, White Tie Group harold@whitetiegroup.com www.whitetiegroup.com From edmundo at macnario.com.br Tue Sep 6 17:19:01 2005 From: edmundo at macnario.com.br (Edmundo Barbosa da Silva) Date: Tue Sep 6 17:19:07 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Birthday entries duplicated Message-ID: <08C4482E-BBCE-45C1-BE87-46EA822945BF@macnario.com.br> Hi, As in Tiger, we can have a BIRTHDAY field in Address Book that can appear as a Calendar in iCal. Perfect integration. Now, when it comes to sync.... well. The birthdays I entered in Address Book appear as a all day event in Calendar (I have a LifeDrive).. And also the birthday doesn't appear in the supposed field in Contacts (Palm)... So, if I set AGAIN the birthdays in Contacts, when I get to the Calendar I have duplicated birthdays. One as a real birthday event (with the cake icon) and one as an all day event... Hope you got the point. I sent an email to support to see if they already noticed that (I'm almost sure they did) so it might come an update of missing sync these days.... Anyone know how to solve this or an idea to bypass this problem? Regards to all, Edd From sayulitasurfer at yahoo.com Tue Sep 6 21:03:39 2005 From: sayulitasurfer at yahoo.com (James Wallace Weber) Date: Tue Sep 6 21:03:41 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] sony clie and OS X Message-ID: <20050907040339.98610.qmail@web51111.mail.yahoo.com> I just got a sony clie and i have a mac. the missing link software advertised that it would work with tiger, wich i have. it doesnt i have updated all versions of missing link and isync and nothing happens. my clie has palm os 5. i think that the version five is the problem. please help -James James W. Weber Photographer School of Visual Arts AIM: Sayulita ten O EMAIL: Sayulitasurfer@yahoo.com Cell Phone: (201) 572-3852 23 Lexington Ave APT 437 NY,NY 10010 ______________________________________________________ Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. http://store.yahoo.com/redcross-donate3/ From eevanson at sprintmail.com Tue Sep 6 22:35:03 2005 From: eevanson at sprintmail.com (Evan Evanson) Date: Tue Sep 6 22:35:20 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] sony clie and OS X In-Reply-To: <20050907040339.98610.qmail@web51111.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050907040339.98610.qmail@web51111.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050907053503.27881@smtpauth.earthlink.net> On 11:03 PM CST, Tue, Sep 6, 2005, James Wallace Weber wrote: >I just got a sony clie and i have a mac. the missing >link software advertised that it would work with >tiger, wich i have. it doesnt i have updated all >versions of missing link and isync and nothing >happens. my clie has palm os 5. i think that the >version five is the problem. Missing Sync works w/ my OS 5-running Cli?. I don't use iSync, so I can't help you more specifically than that. Do make sure you read the manual thoroughly before installing, especially the instructions about installing. Missing Sync needs to work for users of both iSync and Palm Desktop; it can be tricky to make sure everything is installed in the right place and in the right sequence. You may also find useful information in Mark/Space's "Information on working with the iSync Palm OS conduit in Mac OS 10.4/Tiger": Evan Evanson -- "If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the possession of everyone, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself of it. Its peculiar character, too, is that no one possesses the less, because every other possesses the whole of it. He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. That ideas should freely spread from one to another over the globe, for the moral and mutual instruction of man, and improvement of his condition, seems to have been peculiarly and benevolently designed by nature, when she made them, like fire, expansible over all space, without lessening their density at any point, and like the air in which we breathe, move, and have our physical being, incapable of confinement or exclusive appropriation. Inventions then cannot, in nature, be a subject of property." -Thomas Jefferson on intellectual property. From dukiebluedoc at mac.com Thu Sep 8 05:33:13 2005 From: dukiebluedoc at mac.com (Caroline Deegan) Date: Thu Sep 8 05:33:28 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] MS and T5 firmware upgrade 1.1 Message-ID: We have just added a T5 to our family of Palms and Macs, and I have determined that the T5 needs the firmware upgrade,and would like some advice. Current situation: brand new T5, never been sync'd Palm Desktop for Mac 4.2.1 rev b installed on the iMac(OS10.3.9) which will be linked to the Palm. MS purchased and dowloaded, not yet installed. Palm site for downloading the firmware update located. My question is re where in this process to install and use MS for sync'ing--do I go through the firmware update using the Palm HotSync, then after the dust clears install MS or is there any advantage to avoiding the Palm Hotsync and using MS for the whole process? I am hoping some of you with T 5's have pioneered this and will share your advice with me. TIA Caroline From ccarpenter at irish-times.com Thu Sep 8 06:06:31 2005 From: ccarpenter at irish-times.com (Chris Carpenter) Date: Thu Sep 8 06:06:57 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] MS and T5 firmware upgrade 1.1 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <12FD6F07-95A7-4626-87F6-82777EFDC19C@irish-times.com> HI there, I tried the same thing, there is a firmware updatde for the T5 and I could not get it to work. The instructions are terrible and very differcult to follow. This was before I go MS. Has anybody managed to apply this update to T5? I have also heard that this update causes real problems and in some cases the unit had to sent back to palmOne at their request! chris On 8 Sep 2005, at 13:33, Caroline Deegan wrote: > We have just added a T5 to our family of Palms and Macs, and I have > determined that the T5 needs the firmware upgrade,and would like > some advice. > Current situation: > brand new T5, never been sync'd > Palm Desktop for Mac 4.2.1 rev b installed on the iMac(OS10.3.9) > which will be linked to the Palm. > MS purchased and dowloaded, not yet installed. > Palm site for downloading the firmware update located. > My question is re where in this process to install and use MS for > sync'ing--do I go through the firmware update using the Palm > HotSync, then after the dust clears install MS or is there any > advantage to avoiding the Palm Hotsync and using MS for the whole > process? > I am hoping some of you with T 5's have pioneered this and will > share your advice with me. > TIA > Caroline > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives > can be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > -- chris carpenter | designer Irish Times New Media - http://www.ireland.com ********************************************************************** This e-mail - and any files and attachments transmitted with it are confidential and/or privileged. 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If you have received this e-mail or any file or attachment transmitted with it in error please notify the sender by return e-mail or contact Itronics Limited at 4th floor, Ballast House, Aston Quay, Dublin 2 or by emailing enquiries@irish-times.com ********************************************************************** From bgfreeman at mac.com Thu Sep 8 06:12:18 2005 From: bgfreeman at mac.com (Barry Freeman) Date: Thu Sep 8 06:12:30 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] MS and T5 firmware upgrade 1.1 In-Reply-To: <12FD6F07-95A7-4626-87F6-82777EFDC19C@irish-times.com> References: <12FD6F07-95A7-4626-87F6-82777EFDC19C@irish-times.com> Message-ID: <00D5F09D-7752-46CE-8A25-366DB0006CB5@mac.com> I put a firmwar eupgrade on a while ago with no special difficulty. Mine shows: Palm OS Garnet 5.4.8 Is that the latest one? On 8 Sep 2005, at 14:06, Chris Carpenter wrote: > HI there, > > I tried the same thing, there is a firmware updatde for the T5 and > I could not get it to work. The instructions are terrible and very > differcult to follow. This was before I go MS. Has anybody managed > to apply this update to T5? I have also heard that this update > causes real problems and in some cases the unit had to sent back to > palmOne at their request! > -- BAzz "If only me and dead people can read hex, how many people can read hex?" From donald.stidwell at gmail.com Thu Sep 8 06:53:42 2005 From: donald.stidwell at gmail.com (Donald E. Stidwell) Date: Thu Sep 8 06:53:47 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] MS and T5 firmware upgrade 1.1 In-Reply-To: <00D5F09D-7752-46CE-8A25-366DB0006CB5@mac.com> References: <12FD6F07-95A7-4626-87F6-82777EFDC19C@irish-times.com> <00D5F09D-7752-46CE-8A25-366DB0006CB5@mac.com> Message-ID: <5A05F23E-7A5C-4145-80A4-F00CC9004AA3@gmail.com> On Sep 8, 2005, at 9:12 AM, Barry Freeman wrote: > I put a firmwar eupgrade on a while ago with no special difficulty. > > Mine shows: Palm OS Garnet 5.4.8 > > Is that the latest one? > That's the latest one. I've had my T5 all of a week and installed the update with no problems. I did the upgrade FIRST then installed MS (since the update wipes your T5, not a lot of point in doing in after you've installed MS). Don -- Romans 1:16 - For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to everyone that believeth... -------- Sent using Apple Mail on OS X Tiger From mark at cfc-proj2010.net Thu Sep 8 07:30:54 2005 From: mark at cfc-proj2010.net (Mark Dempsey) Date: Thu Sep 8 07:31:06 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] MS and T5 firmware upgrade 1.1 In-Reply-To: <5A05F23E-7A5C-4145-80A4-F00CC9004AA3@gmail.com> References: <12FD6F07-95A7-4626-87F6-82777EFDC19C@irish-times.com> <00D5F09D-7752-46CE-8A25-366DB0006CB5@mac.com> <5A05F23E-7A5C-4145-80A4-F00CC9004AA3@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi everyone: I don't post to this group much because much of what is discussed us beyond me, however, I did apply the firmware update after having used MS for quite some time. I did not know there was an update. I could not get the firmware updater to work until I did a hard reset on my T5, after having done a backup. After having effectively erasing my T5 the updater worked using MS with no problems and on my first sync everything was restored to their proper place. Of course, I keep all critical data on my SD card so I can move information without the us of the T5. Just my experience with the firmware updater. Mark On Sep 8, 2005, at 8:53 AM, Donald E. Stidwell wrote: > > On Sep 8, 2005, at 9:12 AM, Barry Freeman wrote: > > >> I put a firmwar eupgrade on a while ago with no special difficulty. >> >> Mine shows: Palm OS Garnet 5.4.8 >> >> Is that the latest one? >> >> > > That's the latest one. I've had my T5 all of a week and installed > the update with no problems. I did the upgrade FIRST then installed > MS (since the update wipes your T5, not a lot of point in doing in > after you've installed MS). > > Don > > -- > Romans 1:16 - For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it > is the power of God unto salvation to everyone that believeth... > -------- > Sent using Apple Mail on OS X Tiger > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives > can be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > From bgfreeman at mac.com Thu Sep 8 08:42:58 2005 From: bgfreeman at mac.com (Barry Freeman) Date: Thu Sep 8 08:43:38 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] MS and T5 firmware upgrade 1.1 In-Reply-To: <5A05F23E-7A5C-4145-80A4-F00CC9004AA3@gmail.com> References: <12FD6F07-95A7-4626-87F6-82777EFDC19C@irish-times.com> <00D5F09D-7752-46CE-8A25-366DB0006CB5@mac.com> <5A05F23E-7A5C-4145-80A4-F00CC9004AA3@gmail.com> Message-ID: <48044AAD-47C2-4AFC-96E3-8B7895CA3CF8@mac.com> I did a backup with MS first, then did the upgrade, then restored through MS. No problem. On 8 Sep 2005, at 14:53, Donald E. Stidwell wrote: > That's the latest one. I've had my T5 all of a week and installed > the update with no problems. I did the upgrade FIRST then installed > MS (since the update wipes your T5, not a lot of point in doing in > after you've installed MS). -- BAzz "Blinding ingorance does mislead us. O! wretched mortals, open your eyes!" Leonardo Da Vinci From zoolok at mac.com Thu Sep 8 11:36:38 2005 From: zoolok at mac.com (Zoolok) Date: Thu Sep 8 11:36:47 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Save password in keychain Message-ID: I have started getting the message box asking me to enter my password for the handheld (zire72) whenever I sync. I check the "save in keychain", but it forgets! Any ideas? -- Mark, on a mac running 10.4.2 From chris.ridd at mac.com Thu Sep 8 11:51:22 2005 From: chris.ridd at mac.com (Chris Ridd) Date: Thu Sep 8 11:51:29 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Save password in keychain In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 8/9/05 7:36, Zoolok wrote: > I have started getting the message box asking me to enter my password > for the handheld (zire72) whenever I sync. I check the "save in > keychain", but it forgets! Any ideas? Open Keychain Access.app and try doing a verify and repair via Keychain First Aid (from the app menu). This is using Tiger; Panther has something similar but I can't remember where it is. Cheers, Chris From KMacMail at mac.com Sun Sep 11 21:52:51 2005 From: KMacMail at mac.com (Klaus P. Fechner) Date: Sun Sep 11 21:52:58 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: MS and T5 firmware upgrade 1.1 In-Reply-To: <48044AAD-47C2-4AFC-96E3-8B7895CA3CF8@mac.com> References: <12FD6F07-95A7-4626-87F6-82777EFDC19C@irish-times.com> <00D5F09D-7752-46CE-8A25-366DB0006CB5@mac.com> <5A05F23E-7A5C-4145-80A4-F00CC9004AA3@gmail.com> <48044AAD-47C2-4AFC-96E3-8B7895CA3CF8@mac.com> Message-ID: And that is really how you want to do it - install MS and do a backup - since the Palm conduit backup folder is a royal mess, and will not result in a functional restore after the flash update. I did it just like Barry (the installer would not let me do it without a hard reset) and it worked all fine, took less than an hour total (including fighting with the Palm installer) Klaus On 16:42 +0100 8.9.05, Barry Freeman wrote: >I did a backup with MS first, then did the upgrade, then restored through MS. No problem. > >On 8 Sep 2005, at 14:53, Donald E. Stidwell wrote: > >>That's the latest one. I've had my T5 all of a week and installed the update with no problems. I did the upgrade FIRST then installed MS (since the update wipes your T5, not a lot of point in doing in after you've installed MS). -- Klaus P. Fechner, Los Altos, CA, USA From tobiaseigen at gmail.com Mon Sep 12 11:07:07 2005 From: tobiaseigen at gmail.com (Tobias Eigen) Date: Mon Sep 12 11:07:13 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Can anyone recommend a non-palmone device? Message-ID: <2f401ce905091211072b524150@mail.gmail.com> Hi, I just joined this list. Kudos to mark/space for producing missing sync, a great product. I am currently shopping for a new Palm OS PDA that I can use to sync with my imac G5 with Mac OS 10.4. My tungsten|c screen cracked twice for no apparent reason, and I am now suspicious of any PalmOne device, no matter how slick the marketing on the website! I want a reliable PDA that I can take with me on business trips to Africa and simply rely on for critical personal organizational info. Are there other non-PalmOne devices out there that are affordable (I'm thinking $150 range) and allow me to sync with my iCal and Addressbook? I had Agendus and Passwords Plus on my tungsten, which I'd like to continue using also. Other features that would be nice but are not key are miniUSB or bluetooth for synchronizing. I think a reasonable sized color screen would be good as well since it makes it more readable. I'm not looking for a phone, which seems to be all I can find as alternatives to PalmOne devices. And, failing that, does anyone have good news about PalmOne's non-Tungsten|c devices, i.e. the Zire? Are they more reliable and less prone to mysteriously cracking screens or other failures? Would be grateful for any help, and hope this is sufficiently on topic for this list. :-) If not let me know and I apologize. Cheers, Tobias -- Tobias Eigen From brad at stop.mail-abuse.org Mon Sep 12 13:30:47 2005 From: brad at stop.mail-abuse.org (Brad Knowles) Date: Mon Sep 12 13:31:12 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Can anyone recommend a non-palmone device? In-Reply-To: <2f401ce905091211072b524150@mail.gmail.com> References: <2f401ce905091211072b524150@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: At 11:07 AM -0700 2005-09-12, Tobias Eigen wrote: > I just joined this list. Kudos to mark/space for producing missing sync, a > great product. Oh, man. Can I go anywhere without seeing you? ;) > And, failing that, does anyone have good news about PalmOne's non-Tungsten|c > devices, i.e. the Zire? Are they more reliable and less prone to > mysteriously cracking screens or other failures? I've got a Treo 650. Let's just say that it's a nice concept, but IMO the execution is lacking. It's probably one of the best "Communicator" devices out there, but it's still nowhere near good enough. I've also had Sony Cli? devices (especially the NX-70V), the older Palm m515, an ancient Palm IIIx, a couple of Apple "Newton" MessagePads (including a MessagePad 2100), and a number of other things. Unfortunately, all the modern stuff appears to pretty much be crap. As far as a pure PDA is concerned, the Zodiac was decent, but the funky 480x320 screen was not well supported by most software. There were some fairly good games, but most of the games developers got pulled away very quickly by the Nintendo DS and the Sony PSP. The poor Zod just couldn't keep up, even though the Zod2 had 128MB of RAM, Bluetooth, two SecureDigital slots (one of which was SDIO, and supported WiFi cards), InfraRed, and most everything else you could want in that kind of device. Oh, and it was nice and reasonably light, too. Too bad the company went bankrupt. At least some of the old Sony Cli?s were good as far as the hardware was concerned, but Sony didn't support Macs for any of their syncing, so you were left fending for yourself and kinda-semi-sorta getting things to work with Palm Desktop for Macintosh. I think the pick of the litter was probably the NX-80V or the NX-83V, with a decent-size camera (none of this VGA crap), a memorystick slot (could it take Pro sticks?), a collapsible CompactFlash slot (which was designed to take the CF-II format WiFi card, but could also take CompactFlash memory cards, up to 2GB in size), and a few other features. Notably, the vertical format QWERTY keyboard sucked. I mean, really sucked. The PDA was huge compared to a Treo, but even the Treo has a better keyboard. Of course, Sony completely withdrew from that market. The old Psion 5mx was pretty much ideal, from what I could see, as far as what I wanted in a PDA. It's a shame that the company killed the hardware, changed their name to Symbian, and then largely got taken over by Nokia. The 9500 and 9300 just don't hold a candle to the old hardware. There are some other old micro-laptop style PDAs around, some of which can even run Linux or NetBSD. And some of those can even take WiFi cards, and/or memory storage cards, and some can take both (usually one CompactFlash and one PCMCIA card). But they're getting harder and harder to find, and more and more difficult to support. You almost need to be a kernel hacker to do that anymore. Right now, the best PDA-only device I see on the market is the Sharp Zaurus SL-C1000 (with flash-only storage), and the SL-3000/3100 (with 4GB storage on a one-inch micro hard drive, like the kind that IBM/Hitachi put into CompactFlash II cards). It's got a high resolution screen (640x480), the screen is flip-n-twist (which means that you can hide the keyboard and use just the touch-sensitive screen if you want), and the keyboard itself is not ideal, but still a lot bigger and better than most anything else on the market (including possibly the HTC Universal, which is being re-sold as the i-mate JASJAR and the T-Mobile MDA Pro). However, even it has some problems. First, there is no connectivity built-in (not even Bluetooth), leaving you to plug in a CompactFlash or SDIO card in order to get on the network, and whichever card you use, it really gets in the way of properly wrapping your hands around the device. That makes it pretty difficult to actually do anything with it. Secondly, it's Linux, and if you try to use it in English, you've got an unofficial port that is only 90% done. Linux might not be a problem for me, but I think it will be a problem for most people. Finally, anything displayed on that screen very nearly needs a microscope in order to see it. Of course, all devices trying to display 640x480 in that kind of space are going to share the same problems. But this still has to be considered. Let's not even get started on the Microsoft-based stuff. What does that leave in the PDA-only market? I can't think of anything. What would that leave in the PDA/Communicator market? The RIM Crackberry, the Sidekick, and maybe a couple of Nokias. As bad as it is, I'll put my Treo up against any of those on any day, and I'll beat them all, hands-down. And it won't take a whole lot of third-party software to do that, either. Of course, it does help that the Treo does have the widest array of third-party software available of any PDA or PDA/Communicator on the market, but that's just gravy. ;) > Would be grateful for any help, and hope this is sufficiently on topic for > this list. :-) If not let me know and I apologize. Of course, once you've got the device picked, you're going to have to sync it to your Mac. And there, Missing Sync is definitely the place to start. -- Brad Knowles, "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See for more info. From missing at biggerhammer.org Mon Sep 12 17:56:02 2005 From: missing at biggerhammer.org (missing@biggerhammer.org) Date: Mon Sep 12 17:56:12 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Issue Sync'ing across 2 computers In-Reply-To: <200509121901.j8CJ0ifQ011632@sparrow.markspace.com> References: <200509121901.j8CJ0ifQ011632@sparrow.markspace.com> Message-ID: <8A68C411-C524-4960-9672-B5DC026774B8@biggerhammer.org> I'm using MS to sync my Tungsten C to a G4 iMac for contacts with Palm Desktop. I am also using MS to sync iCal (via iSync conduit) and MS Memo to a different computer, a G5 iMac. Here is the issue. I sync iCal etc. to the G5. Then I sync to the G4 to get Palm contacts updated. MS sync log reports that there has been a change on both the handheld and the Desktop. But only the only data I had changed was in Palm Desktop. So every time anything changes in Palm Desktop I get the old version and the new version on both the Tungsten and in Palm Desktop. My guess is that even though iSync isn't changing the contacts (as it is not selected in the iSync prefs) it is showing that all contacts have been modified. Has anyone seen this issue? Is there a work-around? Here is a sample of the G$ MS Sync Log. ??Sync starting at 9/12/05 5:40 PM (17:40:49) on Network from: 192.168.2.100 ?? - The following record was modified on both the Palm Desktop and the handheld: TEST Both versions of this record were copied to the Palm Desktop and the handheld. Delete the unwanted record and perform a HotSync operation again. ??OK Address Book with 1 message(s) ??Trip: No records have changed, syncronization stopped. ??OK Trip Conduit ??Sync completed successfully at 9/12/05 5:42 PM (17:42:25) Here is a sample of the G5 Sync Log. ------------------------------------------------------------------ ?Sync starting at 9/12/05 5:38 PM (17:38:50) on USB ?9/12/05 5:38 PM iSync Conduit starting ?OK iSync Conduit ?OK Mark/Space MemoPad ?OK Documents To Go ?TimeCopy: host 2005/09/12 17:39:22, palm 2005/09/12 17:39:23, diff: -1s ?OK TimeCopy ?Sync completed successfully at 9/12/05 5:39 PM (17:39:22) Any advice appreciated. Thanks On Sep 12, 2005, at 12:01 PM, missing-sync-palmos-talk- request@lists.markspace.com wrote: > Send missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list submissions to > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos- > talk > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > missing-sync-palmos-talk-request@lists.markspace.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > missing-sync-palmos-talk-owner@lists.markspace.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of missing-sync-palmos-talk digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: MS and T5 firmware upgrade 1.1 (Klaus P. Fechner) > 2. Can anyone recommend a non-palmone device? (Tobias Eigen) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 21:52:51 -0700 > From: "Klaus P. Fechner" > Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: MS and T5 firmware upgrade 1.1 > To: "The Missing Sync (Mac/Palm OS) Discussion List" > > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > And that is really how you want to do it - install MS and do a > backup - since the Palm conduit backup folder is a royal mess, and > will not result in a functional restore after the flash update. I > did it just like Barry (the installer would not let me do it > without a hard reset) and it worked all fine, took less than an > hour total (including fighting with the Palm installer) > > Klaus > > On 16:42 +0100 8.9.05, Barry Freeman wrote: > >> I did a backup with MS first, then did the upgrade, then restored >> through MS. No problem. >> >> On 8 Sep 2005, at 14:53, Donald E. Stidwell wrote: >> >> >>> That's the latest one. I've had my T5 all of a week and installed >>> the update with no problems. I did the upgrade FIRST then >>> installed MS (since the update wipes your T5, not a lot of point >>> in doing in after you've installed MS). >>> > > -- > Klaus P. Fechner, Los Altos, CA, USA > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 11:07:07 -0700 > From: Tobias Eigen > Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Can anyone recommend a non-palmone > device? > To: missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Message-ID: <2f401ce905091211072b524150@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Hi, > > I just joined this list. Kudos to mark/space for producing missing > sync, a > great product. > > I am currently shopping for a new Palm OS PDA that I can use to > sync with my > imac G5 with Mac OS 10.4. My tungsten|c screen cracked twice for no > apparent > reason, and I am now suspicious of any PalmOne device, no matter > how slick > the marketing on the website! I want a reliable PDA that I can take > with me > on business trips to Africa and simply rely on for critical personal > organizational info. > > Are there other non-PalmOne devices out there that are affordable (I'm > thinking $150 range) and allow me to sync with my iCal and > Addressbook? I > had Agendus and Passwords Plus on my tungsten, which I'd like to > continue > using also. Other features that would be nice but are not key are > miniUSB or > bluetooth for synchronizing. I think a reasonable sized color > screen would > be good as well since it makes it more readable. I'm not looking for a > phone, which seems to be all I can find as alternatives to PalmOne > devices. > > And, failing that, does anyone have good news about PalmOne's non- > Tungsten|c > devices, i.e. the Zire? Are they more reliable and less prone to > mysteriously cracking screens or other failures? > > Would be grateful for any help, and hope this is sufficiently on > topic for > this list. :-) If not let me know and I apologize. > > Cheers, > > Tobias > > -- > Tobias Eigen > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > > > End of missing-sync-palmos-talk Digest, Vol 28, Issue 8 > ******************************************************* > > From dwolman at campusfundraiser.com Tue Sep 13 14:23:11 2005 From: dwolman at campusfundraiser.com (Daniel Wolman) Date: Tue Sep 13 14:23:23 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Entourage and Sticky Brain Message-ID: I have been trying to sync my treo 600 to my mac, using both entourage and sticky brain...seems to be a conflict with the two, even after I have removed the missing sync memo pad sync and the changed the entourage conduit settings to do nothing for both tasks and notes... Anything I am missing here, or will these two never play nice together? Any help here would be appreciated. Thanks Dan From sgruby at markspace.com Tue Sep 13 14:27:52 2005 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Tue Sep 13 14:27:56 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Entourage and Sticky Brain In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BDB857C-0ABA-4971-ACA4-970C71EB5717@markspace.com> On Sep 13, 2005, at 2:23 PM, Daniel Wolman wrote: > I have been trying to sync my treo 600 to my mac, using both > entourage and > sticky brain...seems to be a conflict with the two, even after I have > removed the missing sync memo pad sync and the changed the > entourage conduit > settings to do nothing for both tasks and notes... > > Anything I am missing here, or will these two never play nice > together? > > Any help here would be appreciated. > Both conduits tell Missing Sync that they want to sync the memo pad. Since we have no way to look inside of the Entourage conduit settings, we just have to go by what the conduit tell us. Please see: for information on how to work around this. -- Scott Gruby Lead Engineer Mark/Space, Inc. Please visit for assistance with Mark/Space products. From tonyburch at gmail.com Tue Sep 13 14:42:20 2005 From: tonyburch at gmail.com (Tony Burch) Date: Tue Sep 13 14:42:22 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Entourage and Sticky Brain In-Reply-To: <4BDB857C-0ABA-4971-ACA4-970C71EB5717@markspace.com> References: <4BDB857C-0ABA-4971-ACA4-970C71EB5717@markspace.com> Message-ID: On 13/09/05, Scott Gruby wrote: > > On Sep 13, 2005, at 2:23 PM, Daniel Wolman wrote: > > > I have been trying to sync my treo 600 to my mac, using both > > entourage and > > sticky brain...seems to be a conflict with the two, even after I have > > removed the missing sync memo pad sync and the changed the > > entourage conduit > > settings to do nothing for both tasks and notes... > > > > Both conduits tell Missing Sync that they want to sync the memo pad. > Since we have no way to look inside of the Entourage conduit > settings, we just have to go by what the conduit tell us. Please see: > for > information on how to work around this. Thanks for this I would be interested in hearing from anyone who has had problems with StickyBrain/Memo syncing after turning off Memo sync in the Ent. conduit. Tony From martin.tech at gmx.net Tue Sep 13 18:27:42 2005 From: martin.tech at gmx.net (Martin) Date: Tue Sep 13 18:28:20 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Can anyone recommend a non-palmone device? In-Reply-To: <2f401ce905091211072b524150@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello Tobias -- consider a used Sony Clie (...hey why not!) > other non-PalmOne devices Martin From richhaglund at mac.com Tue Sep 13 18:35:44 2005 From: richhaglund at mac.com (Rich Haglund) Date: Tue Sep 13 18:35:50 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Sync'ing across 2 computers In-Reply-To: <200509131916.j8DJFCBt005952@sparrow.markspace.com> References: <200509131916.j8DJFCBt005952@sparrow.markspace.com> Message-ID: <43277E70.3080904@mac.com> I sync a Sony Clie PEG-SJ33 on a G4 at home and a Windows machine at work. After syncing at work, before syncing at home, I open iSync and select the device and check the box "Force slow syncing". That seems to catch the potential conflicts and make the right changes. Rich missing-sync-palmos-talk-request@lists.markspace.com wrote: > Send missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list submissions to > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > missing-sync-palmos-talk-request@lists.markspace.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > missing-sync-palmos-talk-owner@lists.markspace.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of missing-sync-palmos-talk digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Can anyone recommend a non-palmone device? (Brad Knowles) > 2. Issue Sync'ing across 2 computers (missing@biggerhammer.org) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 22:30:47 +0200 > From: Brad Knowles > Subject: Re: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Can anyone recommend a > non-palmone device? > To: tobiaseigen@gmail.com, "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Palm OS\) > Discussion List" > Cc: missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" > > At 11:07 AM -0700 2005-09-12, Tobias Eigen wrote: > > >> I just joined this list. Kudos to mark/space for producing missing sync, a >> great product. > > > Oh, man. Can I go anywhere without seeing you? ;) > > >> And, failing that, does anyone have good news about PalmOne's non-Tungsten|c >> devices, i.e. the Zire? Are they more reliable and less prone to >> mysteriously cracking screens or other failures? > > > I've got a Treo 650. Let's just say that it's a nice concept, > but IMO the execution is lacking. It's probably one of the best > "Communicator" devices out there, but it's still nowhere near good > enough. > > I've also had Sony Cli? devices (especially the NX-70V), the > older Palm m515, an ancient Palm IIIx, a couple of Apple "Newton" > MessagePads (including a MessagePad 2100), and a number of other > things. Unfortunately, all the modern stuff appears to pretty much > be crap. > > > As far as a pure PDA is concerned, the Zodiac was decent, but the > funky 480x320 screen was not well supported by most software. There > were some fairly good games, but most of the games developers got > pulled away very quickly by the Nintendo DS and the Sony PSP. The > poor Zod just couldn't keep up, even though the Zod2 had 128MB of > RAM, Bluetooth, two SecureDigital slots (one of which was SDIO, and > supported WiFi cards), InfraRed, and most everything else you could > want in that kind of device. Oh, and it was nice and reasonably > light, too. Too bad the company went bankrupt. > > At least some of the old Sony Cli?s were good as far as the > hardware was concerned, but Sony didn't support Macs for any of their > syncing, so you were left fending for yourself and kinda-semi-sorta > getting things to work with Palm Desktop for Macintosh. I think the > pick of the litter was probably the NX-80V or the NX-83V, with a > decent-size camera (none of this VGA crap), a memorystick slot (could > it take Pro sticks?), a collapsible CompactFlash slot (which was > designed to take the CF-II format WiFi card, but could also take > CompactFlash memory cards, up to 2GB in size), and a few other > features. Notably, the vertical format QWERTY keyboard sucked. I > mean, really sucked. The PDA was huge compared to a Treo, but even > the Treo has a better keyboard. Of course, Sony completely withdrew > from that market. > > The old Psion 5mx was pretty much ideal, from what I could see, > as far as what I wanted in a PDA. It's a shame that the company > killed the hardware, changed their name to Symbian, and then largely > got taken over by Nokia. The 9500 and 9300 just don't hold a candle > to the old hardware. > > There are some other old micro-laptop style PDAs around, some of > which can even run Linux or NetBSD. And some of those can even take > WiFi cards, and/or memory storage cards, and some can take both > (usually one CompactFlash and one PCMCIA card). But they're getting > harder and harder to find, and more and more difficult to support. > You almost need to be a kernel hacker to do that anymore. > > > Right now, the best PDA-only device I see on the market is the > Sharp Zaurus SL-C1000 (with flash-only storage), and the SL-3000/3100 > (with 4GB storage on a one-inch micro hard drive, like the kind that > IBM/Hitachi put into CompactFlash II cards). It's got a high > resolution screen (640x480), the screen is flip-n-twist (which means > that you can hide the keyboard and use just the touch-sensitive > screen if you want), and the keyboard itself is not ideal, but still > a lot bigger and better than most anything else on the market > (including possibly the HTC Universal, which is being re-sold as the > i-mate JASJAR and the T-Mobile MDA Pro). > > However, even it has some problems. > > First, there is no connectivity built-in (not even Bluetooth), > leaving you to plug in a CompactFlash or SDIO card in order to get on > the network, and whichever card you use, it really gets in the way of > properly wrapping your hands around the device. That makes it pretty > difficult to actually do anything with it. > > Secondly, it's Linux, and if you try to use it in English, you've > got an unofficial port that is only 90% done. Linux might not be a > problem for me, but I think it will be a problem for most people. > > Finally, anything displayed on that screen very nearly needs a > microscope in order to see it. Of course, all devices trying to > display 640x480 in that kind of space are going to share the same > problems. But this still has to be considered. > > > Let's not even get started on the Microsoft-based stuff. > > > What does that leave in the PDA-only market? I can't think of anything. > > What would that leave in the PDA/Communicator market? The RIM > Crackberry, the Sidekick, and maybe a couple of Nokias. As bad as it > is, I'll put my Treo up against any of those on any day, and I'll > beat them all, hands-down. And it won't take a whole lot of > third-party software to do that, either. > > Of course, it does help that the Treo does have the widest array > of third-party software available of any PDA or PDA/Communicator on > the market, but that's just gravy. ;) > > >> Would be grateful for any help, and hope this is sufficiently on topic for >> this list. :-) If not let me know and I apologize. > > > Of course, once you've got the device picked, you're going to > have to sync it to your Mac. And there, Missing Sync is definitely > the place to start. > From martin.tech at gmx.net Tue Sep 13 18:37:16 2005 From: martin.tech at gmx.net (Martin) Date: Tue Sep 13 18:37:38 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] sony clie and OS X In-Reply-To: <20050907040339.98610.qmail@web51111.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hello James, launch iSync and go to "add device" from the menu. When having added your Clie, click on the icon of your device in iSynch -- the window pops down and shows more options. Also you must install the iSynch Palm conduit to begin with which is I believe an extra installer to download from Apple: http://www.apple.com/support/isync/ > isync and nothing > happens. Martin (Clie NZ90 / Panther) PS: to move files to the MemoryStick it's MUCH quicker and easier to do it via a Card Reader and using.. A) the affordable PSPWare http://www.nullriver.com/index/products/pspware B) or the free Unagi http://unagi.dialaview.co.uk/ Create a folder called "PSP" on your MemoryStick and it turns into a PSP :-) From 5tu at theorphanage.com Wed Sep 14 02:16:02 2005 From: 5tu at theorphanage.com (Stu Maschwitz) Date: Wed Sep 14 02:16:13 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Fresh start In-Reply-To: <541E20A9-55DA-4529-92C0-D1A2F093B759@sympatico.ca> References: <541E20A9-55DA-4529-92C0-D1A2F093B759@sympatico.ca> Message-ID: I just got a new PowerBook and am starting fresh with Missing Sync in hopes of a more streamlined experience. than I had last time. What is the proper sequence of events? I went to install the iSync Palm Conduit, but the installer said I need Palm Desktop installed first. Is that correct? Do I need Palm Desktop on my machine in order to use Missing Sync? My goal is to sync my Treo 650 with iCal and Apple's Address Book. I had this working on my old system and then is mysteriously stopped. Thanks in advance for any help, -Stu From chrisridd at mac.com Wed Sep 14 02:49:16 2005 From: chrisridd at mac.com (Chris Ridd) Date: Wed Sep 14 02:49:25 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Fresh start In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 14/9/05 10:16, Stu Maschwitz <5tu@theorphanage.com> wrote: > I just got a new PowerBook and am starting fresh with Missing Sync in > hopes of a more streamlined experience. > than I had last time. > > What is the proper sequence of events? I went to install the iSync > Palm Conduit, but the installer said I need Palm Desktop installed > first. Is that correct? Do I need Palm Desktop on my machine in > order to use Missing Sync? My goal is to sync my Treo 650 with iCal > and Apple's Address Book. I had this working on my old system and > then is mysteriously stopped. Install MissingSync first. I understand that it installs things which will fool things like the iSync Palm conduit installer into thinking Palm Desktop (or rather, Palm's Hotsync Manager) is installed. Then install iSync's Palm conduit. Don't install Palm's junk. It'll screw with the permissions on important directories :-((( Cheers, Chris From ben.steeves at gmail.com Wed Sep 14 10:20:30 2005 From: ben.steeves at gmail.com (Ben Steeves) Date: Wed Sep 14 10:20:33 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Can anyone recommend a non-palmone device? In-Reply-To: <2f401ce905091211072b524150@mail.gmail.com> References: <2f401ce905091211072b524150@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7ebb24d1050914102055f0e838@mail.gmail.com> On 9/12/05, Tobias Eigen wrote: > Are there other non-PalmOne devices out there that are affordable (I'm > thinking $150 range) Assuming you want to stick with a PalmOS device, the answer is "not really". Sony and HandEra are out of the game, and although there are other licensees, they have not released any handhelds yet to the best of my knowledge. > And, failing that, does anyone have good news about PalmOne's non-Tungsten|c > devices, i.e. the Zire? Are they more reliable and less prone to > mysteriously cracking screens or other failures? I still think that the Tungsten T3 is the best all-around PDA Palm ever built, with the possible exception of its battery life. I actually have a LifeDrive now, but don't like its bulk, lag, or oddities. The T3 was nearly perfect in my opinion, and if it had WiFi I would probably still be using it. -- Ben Steeves _ bcs@metacon.ca The ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) ben.steeves@gmail.com against HTML e-mail X GPG ID: 0xB3EBF1D9 http://www.metacon.ca/bcs / \ Yahoo Messenger: ben_steeves From rpowell at powellassociates.com Wed Sep 14 13:23:37 2005 From: rpowell at powellassociates.com (Robert Powell) Date: Wed Sep 14 13:23:57 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Can anyone recommend a non-palmone device? In-Reply-To: <7ebb24d1050914102055f0e838@mail.gmail.com> References: <2f401ce905091211072b524150@mail.gmail.com> <7ebb24d1050914102055f0e838@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Sep 14, 2005, at 1:20 PM, Ben Steeves wrote: > > >> And, failing that, does anyone have good news about PalmOne's non- >> Tungsten|c >> devices, i.e. the Zire? Are they more reliable and less prone to >> mysteriously cracking screens or other failures? >> > > I still think that the Tungsten T3 is the best all-around PDA Palm > ever built, with the possible exception of its battery life. I > actually have a LifeDrive now, but don't like its bulk, lag, or > oddities. The T3 was nearly perfect in my opinion, and if it had WiFi > I would probably still be using it. FYI, I really like my Zire 72s, it is the Swiss Army knife of PDAs. I have added a one gig SD card to it that increases its capabilities tremendously and I use the ClearTouch screen protector to help increase the lifetime of the screen. The only thing I really wish it had that it does not is the WiFi of the LifeDrive, but I bought this rather than the LifeDrive for the reasons mentioned above. ChemBob From tobiaseigen at gmail.com Wed Sep 14 06:51:38 2005 From: tobiaseigen at gmail.com (Tobias Eigen) Date: Wed Sep 14 15:10:02 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Can anyone recommend a non-palmone device? In-Reply-To: References: <2f401ce905091211072b524150@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2f401ce9050914065130760923@mail.gmail.com> Hi Martin - Thanks for the thought. I generally like Sony but don't like their whole memory stick thing. I also was trying to make a budget-conscious decision. :-) Another realization was that I still have all sorts of palm chargers etc which I want to continue using. So I went ultimately for a Tungsten T3 on Craig's list for $150 and adding an extended warranty through the Palm website for $50 more. This'll ensure I have a working computer at least for the next year! Looking forward to getting it and having my ical and addressbook contents accessible to me when away from home. I really got used to that, and loved using missing sync, and it's been half a year now that I've been without it! :-) Cheers, Tobias On 9/13/05, Martin wrote: > > Hello Tobias -- consider a used Sony Clie (...hey why not!) > > > other non-PalmOne devices > > > > Martin > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be > found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > -- Tobias Eigen home: +1-206-842-1467 skype: tobiaseigen From lists at tntluoma.com Wed Sep 14 20:38:02 2005 From: lists at tntluoma.com (Timothy Luoma) Date: Wed Sep 14 20:38:15 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Internet Sharing PPP timeout Message-ID: <97A54C1B-95A8-4F6D-8965-A96716866298@tntluoma.com> I don't know if this is a MissingSync preference somewhere or a Palm one or what. I'm trying to setup SnapperMail to autofetch at night through my Mac which has a modem which is programmed to dial on demand. I have Snappermail set to autofetch every hour, but it seems like the autodial doesn't happen fast enough, so I get an error: Error PPP Timeout (0x1231) TjL From walter at natural-innovations.com Wed Sep 14 20:52:32 2005 From: walter at natural-innovations.com (Walter Ian Kaye) Date: Wed Sep 14 20:52:41 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Can anyone recommend a non-palmone device? In-Reply-To: <7ebb24d1050914102055f0e838@mail.gmail.com> References: <2f401ce905091211072b524150@mail.gmail.com> <7ebb24d1050914102055f0e838@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: At 02:20p -0300 09/14/2005, Ben Steeves didst inscribe upon an electronic papyrus: >I still think that the Tungsten T3 is the best all-around PDA Palm >ever built, with the possible exception of its battery life. I >actually have a LifeDrive now, but don't like its bulk, lag, or >oddities. The T3 was nearly perfect in my opinion, and if it had WiFi >I would probably still be using it. There is a WiFi card for it, which I will get when I get a T3. Florent Pillet (he's back to work on BrainForest, yay) said he has 19 models on his desk, and the T3 is his favorite. I checked out a LifeDrive in the store; its "oddities" are too much for me. Perhaps I'll do like Tobias and look for a used T3 when the time comes to retire my Clie. >-- >Ben Steeves _ bcs@metacon.ca > The ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) ben.steeves@gmail.com > against HTML e-mail X GPG ID: 0xB3EBF1D9 >http://www.metacon.ca/bcs / \ Yahoo Messenger: ben_steeves ___________________________________________________________________________ Walter Ian Kaye, San Francisco, CA | Macintosh Scripter, Web Developer, http://www.natural-innovations.com/ | Inventor, Guitarist, Songwriter, | Actor, and Whole Grain Baker (()) ascii ribbon campaign: XX just say no to HTML/RTF in email and usenet //\\ and no to Web sites that do not fully support Lynx From loriolson at mac.com Wed Sep 14 21:32:31 2005 From: loriolson at mac.com (Lori M Olson) Date: Wed Sep 14 21:32:31 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Can anyone recommend a non-palmone device? In-Reply-To: <2f401ce9050914065130760923@mail.gmail.com> References: <2f401ce905091211072b524150@mail.gmail.com> <2f401ce9050914065130760923@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I came to most of the same conclusions as you about 8 months ago, but I picked up a new-in-box Zire 71 on EBay for $200. I was not pleased with any of the new Palm offerings, a and I had all of these old Palm accessories that I wanted to keep using... The Zire 72 moved to a new connector, but the Zire 71 still used the old one. One can only hope that the next device Palm comes up with is worth- while (and NOT a Windows Mobile device). Lori On Sep 14, 2005, at 7:51 AM, Tobias Eigen wrote: > Hi Martin - > > Thanks for the thought. I generally like Sony but don't like their > whole > memory stick thing. I also was trying to make a budget-conscious > decision. > :-) Another realization was that I still have all sorts of palm > chargers etc > which I want to continue using. So I went ultimately for a Tungsten > T3 on > Craig's list for $150 and adding an extended warranty through the Palm > website for $50 more. This'll ensure I have a working computer at > least for > the next year! > From dwareham at simply.ca Wed Sep 14 21:46:03 2005 From: dwareham at simply.ca (DICK WAREHAM) Date: Wed Sep 14 21:46:09 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Looking to upgrade. Message-ID: <3D6D7F04-FD09-4354-A09E-7DFDBB0AB67E@simply.ca> I am currently using a Palm M505, It works well but obviously getting long in the tooth. I use it with a G4 Powerbook. Any recommendations on what to move up to and still work with my MAC apps. Dick Wareham FICB 7025-141st.Street Surrey.BC.V3W 6L4 604-594-7293 604-514-3715Fax From pscott at extremesims.com Wed Sep 14 22:01:29 2005 From: pscott at extremesims.com (Patrick Scott) Date: Wed Sep 14 22:01:44 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Looking to upgrade. In-Reply-To: <3D6D7F04-FD09-4354-A09E-7DFDBB0AB67E@simply.ca> References: <3D6D7F04-FD09-4354-A09E-7DFDBB0AB67E@simply.ca> Message-ID: <34FD9FE7-9A9C-4934-80AB-BBB38F4C7FBD@extremesims.com> Any newer Palm. What apps are you using - Entourage, Mac Palm Desktop, iApps? On Sep 15, 2005, at 12:46 AM, DICK WAREHAM wrote: > I am currently using a Palm M505, It works well but obviously > getting long in the tooth. I use it with a G4 Powerbook. Any > recommendations on what to move up to and still work with my MAC apps. > > > > > Dick Wareham FICB > 7025-141st.Street > Surrey.BC.V3W 6L4 > 604-594-7293 > 604-514-3715Fax > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives > can be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > From 5tu at theorphanage.com Thu Sep 15 01:19:21 2005 From: 5tu at theorphanage.com (Stu Maschwitz) Date: Thu Sep 15 01:19:24 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Fresh start In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <18423F95-0F30-4494-A4F5-2793DBE3F1AB@theorphanage.com> Interesting -- I'm in Tiger, which comes with iSync 2.1, which aparently doesn't require the Palm Conduit to be installed seperately: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=301371 ...but when I ran MS for the first time, I did not see an iSync Conduit in the list. -Stu -- On Sep 14, 2005, at 2:49 AM, Chris Ridd wrote: > On 14/9/05 10:16, Stu Maschwitz <5tu@theorphanage.com> wrote: > > >> I just got a new PowerBook and am starting fresh with Missing Sync in >> hopes of a more streamlined experience. >> than I had last time. >> >> What is the proper sequence of events? I went to install the iSync >> Palm Conduit, but the installer said I need Palm Desktop installed >> first. Is that correct? Do I need Palm Desktop on my machine in >> order to use Missing Sync? My goal is to sync my Treo 650 with iCal >> and Apple's Address Book. I had this working on my old system and >> then is mysteriously stopped. >> >> > > Install MissingSync first. I understand that it installs things > which will > fool things like the iSync Palm conduit installer into thinking > Palm Desktop > (or rather, Palm's Hotsync Manager) is installed. Then install > iSync's Palm > conduit. > > Don't install Palm's junk. It'll screw with the permissions on > important > directories :-((( > > Cheers, > > Chris > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives > can be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > > From 5tu at theorphanage.com Thu Sep 15 01:25:17 2005 From: 5tu at theorphanage.com (Stu Maschwitz) Date: Thu Sep 15 01:25:20 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Fresh start In-Reply-To: <18423F95-0F30-4494-A4F5-2793DBE3F1AB@theorphanage.com> References: <18423F95-0F30-4494-A4F5-2793DBE3F1AB@theorphanage.com> Message-ID: Another stumbling block -- I paired my Treo 650 with my PowerBook, but the Bluetooth Setup Assistant claims that my phone has "no supported services," meaning it won't allow it to become a device in iSync. -Stu -- On Sep 15, 2005, at 1:19 AM, Stu Maschwitz wrote: > Interesting -- I'm in Tiger, which comes with iSync 2.1, which > aparently doesn't require the Palm Conduit to be installed seperately: > > http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=301371 > > ...but when I ran MS for the first time, I did not see an iSync > Conduit in the list. > > -Stu > > -- > On Sep 14, 2005, at 2:49 AM, Chris Ridd wrote: > > > >> On 14/9/05 10:16, Stu Maschwitz <5tu@theorphanage.com> wrote: >> >> >> >>> I just got a new PowerBook and am starting fresh with Missing >>> Sync in >>> hopes of a more streamlined experience. >>> than I had last time. >>> >>> What is the proper sequence of events? I went to install the iSync >>> Palm Conduit, but the installer said I need Palm Desktop installed >>> first. Is that correct? Do I need Palm Desktop on my machine in >>> order to use Missing Sync? My goal is to sync my Treo 650 with iCal >>> and Apple's Address Book. I had this working on my old system and >>> then is mysteriously stopped. >>> >>> >>> >> >> Install MissingSync first. I understand that it installs things >> which will >> fool things like the iSync Palm conduit installer into thinking >> Palm Desktop >> (or rather, Palm's Hotsync Manager) is installed. Then install >> iSync's Palm >> conduit. >> >> Don't install Palm's junk. It'll screw with the permissions on >> important >> directories :-((( >> >> Cheers, >> >> Chris >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives >> can be found at: >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk >> >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives > can be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > From 5tu at theorphanage.com Thu Sep 15 01:28:53 2005 From: 5tu at theorphanage.com (Stu Maschwitz) Date: Thu Sep 15 01:28:56 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Fresh start In-Reply-To: <18423F95-0F30-4494-A4F5-2793DBE3F1AB@theorphanage.com> References: <18423F95-0F30-4494-A4F5-2793DBE3F1AB@theorphanage.com> Message-ID: <5154C64E-2BB1-4F69-9466-94B878812DAD@theorphanage.com> Oops, answering my own question... had to go to Devices > Enable Palm OS Syncing. -Stu -- On Sep 15, 2005, at 1:19 AM, Stu Maschwitz wrote: > Interesting -- I'm in Tiger, which comes with iSync 2.1, which > aparently doesn't require the Palm Conduit to be installed seperately: > > http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=301371 > > ...but when I ran MS for the first time, I did not see an iSync > Conduit in the list. > > -Stu > > -- > On Sep 14, 2005, at 2:49 AM, Chris Ridd wrote: > > > >> On 14/9/05 10:16, Stu Maschwitz <5tu@theorphanage.com> wrote: >> >> >> >>> I just got a new PowerBook and am starting fresh with Missing >>> Sync in >>> hopes of a more streamlined experience. >>> than I had last time. >>> >>> What is the proper sequence of events? I went to install the iSync >>> Palm Conduit, but the installer said I need Palm Desktop installed >>> first. Is that correct? Do I need Palm Desktop on my machine in >>> order to use Missing Sync? My goal is to sync my Treo 650 with iCal >>> and Apple's Address Book. I had this working on my old system and >>> then is mysteriously stopped. >>> >>> >>> >> >> Install MissingSync first. I understand that it installs things >> which will >> fool things like the iSync Palm conduit installer into thinking >> Palm Desktop >> (or rather, Palm's Hotsync Manager) is installed. Then install >> iSync's Palm >> conduit. >> >> Don't install Palm's junk. It'll screw with the permissions on >> important >> directories :-((( >> >> Cheers, >> >> Chris >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives >> can be found at: >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk >> >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives > can be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > From 5tu at theorphanage.com Thu Sep 15 01:35:24 2005 From: 5tu at theorphanage.com (Stu Maschwitz) Date: Thu Sep 15 01:35:28 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Fresh start In-Reply-To: References: <18423F95-0F30-4494-A4F5-2793DBE3F1AB@theorphanage.com> Message-ID: <41D87A6C-DE31-4263-9E29-6C322AA6FDA4@theorphanage.com> ...and another answer to my own question -- had to enable palm syncing in MS to automagically add the device to iSync. -Stu -- On Sep 15, 2005, at 1:25 AM, Stu Maschwitz wrote: > Another stumbling block -- I paired my Treo 650 with my PowerBook, > but the Bluetooth Setup Assistant claims that my phone has "no > supported services," meaning it won't allow it to become a device > in iSync. > > -Stu > > -- > On Sep 15, 2005, at 1:19 AM, Stu Maschwitz wrote: > > > >> Interesting -- I'm in Tiger, which comes with iSync 2.1, which >> aparently doesn't require the Palm Conduit to be installed >> seperately: >> >> http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=301371 >> >> ...but when I ran MS for the first time, I did not see an iSync >> Conduit in the list. >> >> -Stu >> >> -- >> On Sep 14, 2005, at 2:49 AM, Chris Ridd wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>> On 14/9/05 10:16, Stu Maschwitz <5tu@theorphanage.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> I just got a new PowerBook and am starting fresh with Missing >>>> Sync in >>>> hopes of a more streamlined experience. >>>> than I had last time. >>>> >>>> What is the proper sequence of events? I went to install the iSync >>>> Palm Conduit, but the installer said I need Palm Desktop installed >>>> first. Is that correct? Do I need Palm Desktop on my machine in >>>> order to use Missing Sync? My goal is to sync my Treo 650 with >>>> iCal >>>> and Apple's Address Book. I had this working on my old system and >>>> then is mysteriously stopped. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> Install MissingSync first. I understand that it installs things >>> which will >>> fool things like the iSync Palm conduit installer into thinking >>> Palm Desktop >>> (or rather, Palm's Hotsync Manager) is installed. Then install >>> iSync's Palm >>> conduit. >>> >>> Don't install Palm's junk. It'll screw with the permissions on >>> important >>> directories :-((( >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Chris >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >>> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >>> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives >>> can be found at: >>> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives >> can be found at: >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives > can be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > > From brad at stop.mail-abuse.org Thu Sep 15 02:19:07 2005 From: brad at stop.mail-abuse.org (Brad Knowles) Date: Thu Sep 15 02:20:56 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Looking to upgrade. In-Reply-To: <3D6D7F04-FD09-4354-A09E-7DFDBB0AB67E@simply.ca> References: <3D6D7F04-FD09-4354-A09E-7DFDBB0AB67E@simply.ca> Message-ID: At 9:46 PM -0700 2005-09-14, DICK WAREHAM wrote: > I am currently using a Palm M505, It works well but obviously getting long > in the tooth. I use it with a G4 Powerbook. Any recommendations on what to > move up to and still work with my MAC apps. We've just had basically this same discussion. Check the archives of the mailing list for the thread with the subject "Can anyone recommend a non-palmone device?". The subject may be non-obvious, but it's a good one. I recommend going back to Tobias' original post in this thread, and following it all the way through. -- Brad Knowles, "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See for more info. From brad at stop.mail-abuse.org Thu Sep 15 02:16:37 2005 From: brad at stop.mail-abuse.org (Brad Knowles) Date: Thu Sep 15 02:20:59 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Can anyone recommend a non-palmone device? In-Reply-To: References: <2f401ce905091211072b524150@mail.gmail.com> <7ebb24d1050914102055f0e838@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: At 8:52 PM -0700 2005-09-14, Walter Ian Kaye wrote: > There is a WiFi card for it, which I will get when I get a T3. Yes, but it's an SDIO card, and sticks well out of the device, so it's easy to break off. Moreover, this means you can't use an SD memory card, which really hurts because the on-board memory is not sufficient. Yes, there are combination SDIO WiFi/memory cards, but they also stick well out of the device, and are limited in the amount of additional memory they provide. Of course, Palm doesn't support these SD memory cards very well. The VFS stuff in even the LifeDrive is bad enough that it needs to be fixed by a third-party program. All earlier devices need even more help to make good use of an SD memory card. -- Brad Knowles, "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See for more info. From walter at natural-innovations.com Thu Sep 15 03:13:49 2005 From: walter at natural-innovations.com (Walter Ian Kaye) Date: Thu Sep 15 03:14:04 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Can anyone recommend a non-palmone device? In-Reply-To: References: <2f401ce905091211072b524150@mail.gmail.com> <7ebb24d1050914102055f0e838@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: At 11:16a +0200 09/15/2005, Brad Knowles didst inscribe upon an electronic papyrus: >At 8:52 PM -0700 2005-09-14, Walter Ian Kaye wrote: > >> There is a WiFi card for it, which I will get when I get a T3. > > Yes, but it's an SDIO card, and sticks well out of the device, so >it's easy to break off. Moreover, this means you can't use an SD >memory card, which really hurts because the on-board memory is not >sufficient. It has more than the Clie, though, right? ::checking site:: Ack, did they discontinue it?! And here I thought Tobias only went to craigslist for a good price. Oy. Why would they discontinue people's favorite model? Trying to push people toward Cobalt? > Yes, there are combination SDIO WiFi/memory cards, but they also >stick well out of the device, and are limited in the amount of >additional memory they provide. I think 52 MB will do quite well compared to my 16 MB Clie. :-) I'd just use the memory card for "safety" backups, like I do now. (Oh, and for transferring image files, thanks to M/S.) > Of course, Palm doesn't support these SD memory cards very well. >The VFS stuff in even the LifeDrive is bad enough that it needs to >be fixed by a third-party program. All earlier devices need even >more help to make good use of an SD memory card. Does the T3 have a counterpart to the Clie memory stick backup program? thanks, -W From brad at stop.mail-abuse.org Thu Sep 15 04:04:17 2005 From: brad at stop.mail-abuse.org (Brad Knowles) Date: Thu Sep 15 04:05:09 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Can anyone recommend a non-palmone device? In-Reply-To: References: <2f401ce905091211072b524150@mail.gmail.com> <7ebb24d1050914102055f0e838@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: At 3:13 AM -0700 2005-09-15, Walter Ian Kaye wrote: > It has more than the Clie, though, right? Dunno. > ::checking site:: Ack, did they discontinue it?! And here I thought > Tobias only went to craigslist for a good price. Oy. Why would they > discontinue people's favorite model? Trying to push people toward > Cobalt? The T3 was discontinued a while ago. They came out with the T5 to replace it, which is definitely not as good. The LifeDrive came later. > I think 52 MB will do quite well compared to my 16 MB Clie. :-) Depends on what you're trying to do with it. If all you want is calendar and note-taking, then 16MB is probably enough. Heck, an m515 is more than enough. In that case, it would be better to go back to the Palm III and IIIx, since they had more than enough memory for those functions, and with B&W screens got battery lifetimes measured in weeks, not hours. > Does the T3 have a counterpart to the Clie memory stick backup program? Built-in? Not that I know of. -- Brad Knowles, "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See for more info. From dwareham at simply.ca Thu Sep 15 05:50:54 2005 From: dwareham at simply.ca (DICK WAREHAM) Date: Thu Sep 15 05:52:03 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Looking to upgrade. In-Reply-To: <34FD9FE7-9A9C-4934-80AB-BBB38F4C7FBD@extremesims.com> References: <3D6D7F04-FD09-4354-A09E-7DFDBB0AB67E@simply.ca> <34FD9FE7-9A9C-4934-80AB-BBB38F4C7FBD@extremesims.com> Message-ID: <0A3D9CC9-4A39-49CA-88FD-3DD838AD4971@simply.ca> At this point just the iApps , Dick Wareham FICB On 14-Sep-05, at 10:01 PM, Patrick Scott wrote: > Any newer Palm. What apps are you using - Entourage, Mac Palm > Desktop, iApps? > > On Sep 15, 2005, at 12:46 AM, DICK WAREHAM wrote: > > > >> I am currently using a Palm M505, It works well but obviously >> getting long in the tooth. I use it with a G4 Powerbook. Any >> recommendations on what to move up to and still work with my MAC >> apps. >> >> >> >> >> Dick Wareham FICB >> 7025-141st.Street >> Surrey.BC.V3W 6L4 >> 604-594-7293 >> 604-514-3715Fax >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives >> can be found at: >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives > can be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > > > From adamek at mac.com Thu Sep 15 11:02:52 2005 From: adamek at mac.com (Adam Ek) Date: Thu Sep 15 11:02:54 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Garmin iQue Waypoints In-Reply-To: <0A3D9CC9-4A39-49CA-88FD-3DD838AD4971@simply.ca> References: <3D6D7F04-FD09-4354-A09E-7DFDBB0AB67E@simply.ca> <34FD9FE7-9A9C-4934-80AB-BBB38F4C7FBD@extremesims.com> <0A3D9CC9-4A39-49CA-88FD-3DD838AD4971@simply.ca> Message-ID: <4365247.1126807372208.JavaMail.adamek@mac.com> I'm using a Garmin iQue 3600. Yesterday it crashed hard. All data on the Garmin was wiped out. It took a couple of tries to get it to sync with my PowerMac G5, but I got it. Almost all of my data is back. With one big gap. iSync restored all of my contacts, appointments, and todos. However, it did not restore the waypoint coordinates attached to the contacts! Are there any Macintosh & Garmin iQue users out there who can give me any suggestions on how to get the waypoints back? Thanks, Adam Ek adamek@mac.com From mark at cfc-proj2010.net Thu Sep 15 11:15:56 2005 From: mark at cfc-proj2010.net (Mark Dempsey) Date: Thu Sep 15 11:16:08 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Can anyone recommend a non-palmone device? In-Reply-To: References: <2f401ce905091211072b524150@mail.gmail.com> <7ebb24d1050914102055f0e838@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9AC2D323-E175-4A2D-A505-64F43AC75DED@cfc-proj2010.net> I think it is interesting what people like and dislike. For example, I have not heard any good remarks about the T5, yet is is my favorite of all the palm devices I have had. I own a T3, I used it, but I never really liked it mainly do to the fact that it always wanted to slide closed and the slide made it seem clunky to me. Yet, my T5 has lots of memory and works well for me with a great screen that even serves well for video. It sync' well with my mac, even though I use market-circles daylight. What someone else hates some else loves or different strokes for different folks. I would suggest that you try them out before you buy. Mark On Sep 15, 2005, at 6:04 AM, Brad Knowles wrote: > At 3:13 AM -0700 2005-09-15, Walter Ian Kaye wrote: > > >> It has more than the Clie, though, right? >> > > Dunno. > > >> ::checking site:: Ack, did they discontinue it?! And here I thought >> Tobias only went to craigslist for a good price. Oy. Why would they >> discontinue people's favorite model? Trying to push people toward >> Cobalt? >> > > The T3 was discontinued a while ago. They came out with the T5 > to replace it, which is definitely not as good. The LifeDrive came > later. > > >> I think 52 MB will do quite well compared to my 16 MB Clie. :-) >> > > Depends on what you're trying to do with it. If all you want > is calendar and note-taking, then 16MB is probably enough. Heck, > an m515 is more than enough. In that case, it would be better to > go back to the Palm III and IIIx, since they had more than enough > memory for those functions, and with B&W screens got battery > lifetimes measured in weeks, not hours. > > >> Does the T3 have a counterpart to the Clie memory stick backup >> program? >> > > Built-in? Not that I know of. > > -- > Brad Knowles, > > "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little > temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." > > -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania > Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 > > SAGE member since 1995. See for more info. > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives > can be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > From dwolman at campusfundraiser.com Thu Sep 15 19:58:39 2005 From: dwolman at campusfundraiser.com (Daniel Wolman) Date: Thu Sep 15 19:58:48 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Entourage Conduit and Sticky Brain Message-ID: Anyone have any success in getting the Entourage Conduit and the Sticky Brain conduit to work? I have been trying to get them to both sync (by turning off the entourage memo pad and notes sync) but they seem to be unable to both sync... Anyone have any thoughts or feedback? Thanks, Dan From miaspop at earthlink.net Fri Sep 16 18:36:50 2005 From: miaspop at earthlink.net (Charles Frishman) Date: Fri Sep 16 18:36:58 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Entourage Conduit Missing Message-ID: Please Help me find the appropriate MS Entourage conduit. It had been permanently removed from my hard drive and I no longer have the original entourage CD's. I am running OS X, v. 10.2.8 (Build 6R73) on a Yikes G4. I'm using Entourage X for Mac, Service Release 1, Version 10.1.0 (2006) Can I get the conduit from Microsoft, VersionTracker or a friendly soul? Thanks, Charles (FL) From berkowit at silcom.com Fri Sep 16 18:46:31 2005 From: berkowit at silcom.com (Paul Berkowitz) Date: Fri Sep 16 18:46:35 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Entourage Conduit Missing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 9/16/05 6:36 PM, "Charles Frishman" wrote: > Please Help me find the appropriate MS Entourage conduit. It had been > permanently removed from my hard drive and I no longer have the original > entourage CD's. I am running OS X, v. 10.2.8 (Build 6R73) on a Yikes G4. > I'm using Entourage X for Mac, Service Release 1, Version 10.1.0 (2006) > > Can I get the conduit from Microsoft, VersionTracker or a friendly soul? >From the MacTopia website: http://www.microsoft.com/mac/ Click Downloads tab in the menu near the top, scroll to Office v. X/Microsoft Handheld Synchronization for Entourage X. (Once you're there, also download the Office 10.1.6 Updater. You're using 10.1.0 : they fixed bugs, improved IMAP, HTML and the database rebuilder and database itself in several of the updates.) -- Paul Berkowitz From miaspop at earthlink.net Sat Sep 17 18:40:06 2005 From: miaspop at earthlink.net (Charles Frishman) Date: Sat Sep 17 18:40:23 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: missing-sync-palmos-talk Digest, Vol 28, Issue 14 In-Reply-To: <200509171901.j8HJ0WAu027809@sparrow.markspace.com> Message-ID: On 9/17/05 3:01 PM, "missing-sync-palmos-talk-request@lists.markspace.com" wrote: > Send missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list submissions to > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > missing-sync-palmos-talk-request@lists.markspace.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > missing-sync-palmos-talk-owner@lists.markspace.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of missing-sync-palmos-talk digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Entourage Conduit Missing (Charles Frishman) > 2. Re: Entourage Conduit Missing (Paul Berkowitz) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 21:36:50 -0400 > From: Charles Frishman > Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Entourage Conduit Missing > To: > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Please Help me find the appropriate MS Entourage conduit. It had been > permanently removed from my hard drive and I no longer have the original > entourage CD's. I am running OS X, v. 10.2.8 (Build 6R73) on a Yikes G4. > I'm using Entourage X for Mac, Service Release 1, Version 10.1.0 (2006) > > Can I get the conduit from Microsoft, VersionTracker or a friendly soul? > > Thanks, > > Charles (FL) > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 18:46:31 -0700 > From: Paul Berkowitz > Subject: Re: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Entourage Conduit Missing > To: "The Missing Sync (Mac/Palm OS) Discussion List" > > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > On 9/16/05 6:36 PM, "Charles Frishman" wrote: > >> Please Help me find the appropriate MS Entourage conduit. It had been >> permanently removed from my hard drive and I no longer have the original >> entourage CD's. I am running OS X, v. 10.2.8 (Build 6R73) on a Yikes G4. >> I'm using Entourage X for Mac, Service Release 1, Version 10.1.0 (2006) >> >> Can I get the conduit from Microsoft, VersionTracker or a friendly soul? > >> From the MacTopia website: http://www.microsoft.com/mac/ > > Click Downloads tab in the menu near the top, scroll to Office v. > X/Microsoft Handheld Synchronization for Entourage X. > > (Once you're there, also download the Office 10.1.6 Updater. You're using > 10.1.0 : they fixed bugs, improved IMAP, HTML and the database rebuilder and > database itself in several of the updates.) Thanks Paul! From tmoss at onetel.com Sun Sep 18 04:57:30 2005 From: tmoss at onetel.com (Tuckerman Moss) Date: Sun Sep 18 04:57:34 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Syncing to a cellular phone? In-Reply-To: <061120052348.28496.42AB78470002287500006F502205889116020E039D0A0D030706@comcast.net> References: <061120052348.28496.42AB78470002287500006F502205889116020E039D0A0D030706@comcast.net> Message-ID: <536C62A2-BA92-47A1-956F-1CA3C0A313D8@onetel.com> Okay - I guess I'm just not very clear on the concept here. My Sony T630 mobile is connected via Bluetooth and on. When I do a sync to my Palm with MS I get asked if I want to allow MS to sync with Sync Services also. I answer yes - and automagicly my .Mac account is updated and synced in the near future. But nothing happens with the phone. Am I supposed to 1) wait (saying special endearing things to the phone) 2) sync using iSync (which works a treat) or 3) do something I haven't figured out yet. Many thanks, Tuck -- Tuckerman Moss ? The Old Vicarage ? West Anstey -- From tobiaseigen at gmail.com Sun Sep 18 11:00:45 2005 From: tobiaseigen at gmail.com (Tobias Eigen) Date: Sun Sep 18 11:00:48 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Can anyone recommend a non-palmone device? In-Reply-To: <9AC2D323-E175-4A2D-A505-64F43AC75DED@cfc-proj2010.net> References: <2f401ce905091211072b524150@mail.gmail.com> <7ebb24d1050914102055f0e838@mail.gmail.com> <9AC2D323-E175-4A2D-A505-64F43AC75DED@cfc-proj2010.net> Message-ID: <2f401ce90509181100484a28a2@mail.gmail.com> Hi all, My Tungsten T3 offer evaporated (such is the nature of Craig's list sometimes) and I've continued looking. It's interesting to see how many PDAs are being dropped on craig's list every day - guess folks like to upgrade! I've now made arrangements to get a Treo 600 for $200. Are there any issues with syncing this using missing sync? Any recommendations? TIA, Tobias From bobwilliams at knology.net Sun Sep 18 11:12:40 2005 From: bobwilliams at knology.net (Robert Williams) Date: Sun Sep 18 11:12:46 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Can anyone recommend a non-palmone device? In-Reply-To: <2f401ce90509181100484a28a2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Recommend you consider NOT getting the 600 and opt for a 650 - the cost should be almost the same (a NEW 650 with service can be had for @ $250 when you shop around) The screen is MUCH better than the 600 -well worth it! -- Cheers, Bob On 9/18/05 1:00 PM, "Tobias Eigen" wrote: > Hi all, > > My Tungsten T3 offer evaporated (such is the nature of Craig's list > sometimes) and I've continued looking. It's interesting to see how many PDAs > are being dropped on craig's list every day - guess folks like to upgrade! > > I've now made arrangements to get a Treo 600 for $200. Are there any issues > with syncing this using missing sync? Any recommendations? > > TIA, > > Tobias > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > From tobiaseigen at gmail.com Sun Sep 18 11:27:51 2005 From: tobiaseigen at gmail.com (Tobias Eigen) Date: Sun Sep 18 11:27:54 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Can anyone recommend a non-palmone device? In-Reply-To: References: <2f401ce90509181100484a28a2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2f401ce905091811271bb45f1c@mail.gmail.com> Hi Bob - Thanks for that advice, timely too! I'll continue digging around. My biggest concern is with the warranty, so I may ultimately go for a smaller PDA and pay extra for the cracked screen warranty. At the end of the day, I just want a device that I can sync with my imac! Is that too much to ask?! Also, I separately just signed up for a cheapo t-mobile "pay as you go" phone, and would be curious to know if the GSM sim card in there will work in a treo 650 or similar device bought directly through a vendor. Cheers, Tobias On 9/18/05, Robert Williams wrote: > > Recommend you consider NOT getting the 600 and opt for a 650 - the cost > should be almost the same (a NEW 650 with service can be had for @ $2