From lists at tntluoma.com Sun Oct 2 16:00:17 2005 From: lists at tntluoma.com (Timothy Luoma) Date: Sun Oct 2 16:00:39 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: Virtual PC and Hotsync In-Reply-To: <78D46704-5C19-47FA-BD2F-CEDB91AA8D69@mac.com> References: <78D46704-5C19-47FA-BD2F-CEDB91AA8D69@mac.com> Message-ID: On Sep 26, 2005, at 3:17 PM, Zoolok wrote: > I have a Palm Zire 72. I have a PC only conduit. I have Virtual PC > 7. I have had no luck! > So I was wondering if any of you had used VPC and a Palm and had > successful synching? I thought the network hotsync might be the way > to go, but no ideas! I have Missing Sync set to do nothing while > trying the VPC route... I have never been able to get VirtualPC to HotSync. I have also never been able to get *network* syncing to work, although I think that certainly *should* work. I finally ended up setting up a WinTel box on my LAN and use Network sync to a real Windows machine.... but that obviously has drawbacks. From leehinde at gmail.com Mon Oct 3 10:14:09 2005 From: leehinde at gmail.com (Lee Hinde) Date: Mon Oct 3 10:14:11 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Bluetooth synch and Treo 650 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: This is a me-too post. PBG4, 10.4.2, Treo 650, latest MS. Cable connection doesn't work at all. Bluetooth works fine for synching (almost every time, I'd say the inverse of Michael's 1 out of 5), but can't maintain the connection for a file transfer. I.e., it craps out during installs. On 9/30/05, Michael Lee wrote: > Hello. I have a powerbook G4 and Treo 650 that I had easily synched with MS > via Bluetooth. For the past month or so the synch only works every 5th time > or so and I can?t synch at all via the USB cable that came with the Treo. It > is a GSM version of the 650 with the Cingular service. I do have docs to go > and I have installed their latest conduit. I also use ,Mac and isynch, > again with no issues in the past. Any help would be most appreciated ? this > is very frustrating. I have MS 4.06 (68). Thanks > -- > Michael A. Lee -- "I see nobody on the road," said Alice. "I only wish I had such eyes," the King remarked. "To be able to see Nobody! And at that distance, too!" - Lewis Carroll From paul at slamcityskates.com Mon Oct 3 11:50:05 2005 From: paul at slamcityskates.com (Paul) Date: Mon Oct 3 11:56:29 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Media not syncing Message-ID: having just bought missing sync to get my system working properly it's much better that the Palm/mac version. Everything is syncing perfectly except for Media. I have photos on the sd card that are not syncing and old pictures in the desktop that are not syncing back. there are no pictures in the internal memory. i am running OS X 10.3.9 on G4 Titanium Powerbook with a Treo 650. -- ................................................................................ PAUL SUNMAN Director Slam City Skates (Retail) Ltd. 16 Neal's Yard Covent Garden, London WC2H 9DP England. T: +44 (0) 7973 253 168 E1: paul@slamcityskates.com E2: namnus@gmail.com http://www.slamcity.com http://www.roughtrade.com http://www.thealbumclub.com ................................................................................ From Robert.Broome at softhome.net Mon Oct 3 12:01:18 2005 From: Robert.Broome at softhome.net (robert.broome) Date: Mon Oct 3 12:01:27 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Media not syncing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43417FFE.3020104@softhome.net> I have had the same problem since I started using missing sync. I haven't solved it yet. Any suggestions would be most appreciated. Paul wrote: > having just bought missing sync to get my system working properly it's > much better that the Palm/mac version. > Everything is syncing perfectly except for Media. > I have photos on the sd card that are not syncing and old pictures in > the desktop that are not syncing back. there are no pictures in the > internal memory. > i am running OS X 10.3.9 on G4 Titanium Powerbook with a Treo 650. From martin.tech at gmx.net Sun Oct 2 19:04:08 2005 From: martin.tech at gmx.net (Martin) Date: Mon Oct 3 13:36:10 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Permissions of conduits Message-ID: I'm taking a look at the permissions on my MacOSX Panther 10.39 drive and came to the conduits folder - out of curiosity. I discovered that there are all sorts of different permission settings to the different conduits I have. Not that I have any problems, all is fine, but I'm just curious as to why apparently some of my conduits are set to be not executable. Here are some examples: 775 Backup Conduit 775 Apple 775 StickyBrain Conduit 775 SplashShopper Conduit 775 TimeCopy Conduit 775 Install Conduit 676 DocsToGoConduit 674 SplashPhotoConduit Ownerships is on all of them "root" and group is set on all of them on "admin". Some of them are actually a directory, some of them aren't. 1. Is the fact of having different sets of permissions a concern, or is there some science to this? 2. Do conduits have to be excecutable? Martin From hsmoliar at bellatlantic.net Mon Oct 3 13:33:23 2005 From: hsmoliar at bellatlantic.net (Harold Smoliar) Date: Mon Oct 3 13:37:10 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Media not syncing In-Reply-To: <43417FFE.3020104@softhome.net> References: <43417FFE.3020104@softhome.net> Message-ID: <43A5850B-D213-44CB-9DB9-F53B52A44DB6@bellatlantic.net> Make sure that you are using the latest version of missing sync because that cured it for me. Harold On Oct 3, 2005, at 3:01 PM, robert.broome wrote: > I have had the same problem since I started using missing sync. I > haven't solved it yet. Any suggestions would be most appreciated. > > > Paul wrote: > >> having just bought missing sync to get my system working properly >> it's much better that the Palm/mac version. >> Everything is syncing perfectly except for Media. >> I have photos on the sd card that are not syncing and old pictures >> in the desktop that are not syncing back. there are no pictures in >> the internal memory. >> i am running OS X 10.3.9 on G4 Titanium Powerbook with a Treo 650. >> > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives > can be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > Harold Smoliar English horn, Pittsburgh Symphony Piano, White Tie Group harold@whitetiegroup.com www.whitetiegroup.com From sgruby at markspace.com Mon Oct 3 13:57:24 2005 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Mon Oct 3 13:57:29 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Permissions of conduits In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9A1145F4-3DB1-4166-9414-457F1FDF7978@markspace.com> On Oct 2, 2005, at 7:04 PM, Martin wrote: > I'm taking a look at the permissions on my MacOSX Panther 10.39 > drive and > came to the conduits folder - out of curiosity. > > I discovered that there are all sorts of different permission > settings to > the different conduits I have. > > Not that I have any problems, all is fine, but I'm just curious as > to why > apparently some of my conduits are set to be not executable. > > Here are some examples: > > 775 Backup Conduit > 775 Apple > 775 StickyBrain Conduit > 775 SplashShopper Conduit > 775 TimeCopy Conduit > 775 Install Conduit > > 676 DocsToGoConduit > > 674 SplashPhotoConduit > > > Ownerships is on all of them "root" and group is set on all of them on > "admin". > > Some of them are actually a directory, some of them aren't. > Newer conduits are directories (actually bundles). Palm's been recommending bundled conduits for several years now. Some developers haven't converted over. > 1. Is the fact of having different sets of permissions a concern, > or is > there some science to this? > It's only a concern if they can't be read by all users that want to sync. Missing Sync (I believe) sets all its conduits to be world readable, owned by root, group admin with root and admin having write permissions. Different developers have created installers that set permissions differently on the conduits. If you're not having problems, I wouldn't worry about it. > 2. Do conduits have to be excecutable? No. Missing Sync loads the conduits as basically shared libraries and doesn't care about that. -- Scott Gruby Lead Engineer Mark/Space, Inc. Please visit for assistance with Mark/Space products. From aditseng at eml.cc Wed Oct 5 00:22:04 2005 From: aditseng at eml.cc (Aditya Sengupta) Date: Wed Oct 5 00:22:09 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Mac OS on Intel x86 Message-ID: <0D172F78-85B2-4555-A5E0-CD6F264C969F@eml.cc> Any idea when we'd be able to get a version of missing sync that works on mac-tel? I have a test box on intel, but haven't been able to get it working. Regards Aditya From sgruby at markspace.com Wed Oct 5 07:35:16 2005 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Wed Oct 5 07:35:19 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Mac OS on Intel x86 In-Reply-To: <0D172F78-85B2-4555-A5E0-CD6F264C969F@eml.cc> References: <0D172F78-85B2-4555-A5E0-CD6F264C969F@eml.cc> Message-ID: On Oct 5, 2005, at 12:22 AM, Aditya Sengupta wrote: > Any idea when we'd be able to get a version of missing sync that > works on mac-tel? > > I have a test box on intel, but haven't been able to get it working. > You can find information on our timeline for delivering Intel based products at: . In that document, we state: "Timeline Mark/Space plans on delivering products that run natively on Intel processors soon after the first Intel based Macintoshes are delivered to customers in order to allow Mark/Space to perform adequate testing on shipping hardware. According to Apple, this should be sometime during the first half of 2006. " As the developer transition kits are covered by an Apple NDA, we cannot comment further. -- Scott Gruby Lead Engineer Mark/Space, Inc. Please visit for assistance with Mark/Space products. From walter at natural-innovations.com Wed Oct 5 14:31:35 2005 From: walter at natural-innovations.com (Walter Ian Kaye) Date: Wed Oct 5 14:31:48 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Mac OS on Intel x86 In-Reply-To: References: <0D172F78-85B2-4555-A5E0-CD6F264C969F@eml.cc> Message-ID: At 07:35a -0700 10/05/2005, Scott Gruby didst inscribe upon an electronic papyrus: >On Oct 5, 2005, at 12:22 AM, Aditya Sengupta wrote: > >>Any idea when we'd be able to get a version of missing sync that >>works on mac-tel? >> >>I have a test box on intel, but haven't been able to get it working. > >You can find information on our timeline for delivering Intel based >products at: Missing_Sync_Intel_Strategy.pdf>. In that document, we state: > >"Timeline Mark/Space plans on delivering products that run natively >on Intel processors soon after the first Intel based Macintoshes >are delivered to customers in order to allow Mark/Space to perform >adequate testing on shipping hardware. According to Apple, this >should be sometime during the first half of 2006. >" > >As the developer transition kits are covered by an Apple NDA, we >cannot comment further. Sounds like it depends on what his definition of "works" is. ;) Maybe he wants to be a tester (and risk data loss, etc.)? From aditseng at eml.cc Thu Oct 6 01:08:24 2005 From: aditseng at eml.cc (Aditya Sengupta) Date: Thu Oct 6 01:08:40 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Mac OS on Intel x86 In-Reply-To: References: <0D172F78-85B2-4555-A5E0-CD6F264C969F@eml.cc> Message-ID: <2B1CECD5-1BD3-49C9-9077-B83A021B7515@eml.cc> On 06-Oct-05, at 03:01 , Walter Ian Kaye wrote: > At 07:35a -0700 10/05/2005, Scott Gruby didst inscribe upon an > electronic papyrus: > > > > > >> On Oct 5, 2005, at 12:22 AM, Aditya Sengupta wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>> Any idea when we'd be able to get a version of missing sync that >>> works on mac-tel? >>> >>> I have a test box on intel, but haven't been able to get it working. >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> You can find information on our timeline for delivering Intel >> based products at: > Missing_Sync_Intel_Strategy.pdf>. In that document, we state: >> >> "Timeline Mark/Space plans on delivering products that run >> natively on Intel processors soon after the first Intel based >> Macintoshes are delivered to customers in order to allow Mark/ >> Space to perform adequate testing on shipping hardware. According >> to Apple, this should be sometime during the first half of 2006. >> " >> >> As the developer transition kits are covered by an Apple NDA, we >> cannot comment further. >> >> >> >> > > Sounds like it depends on what his definition of "works" is. ;) > Maybe he wants to be a tester (and risk data loss, etc.)? > > > > Yes, actually. I wouldn't mind testing a version of Missing Sync that works on OS X (Intel) > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives > can be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > > > > From walter at natural-innovations.com Thu Oct 6 02:14:59 2005 From: walter at natural-innovations.com (Walter Ian Kaye) Date: Thu Oct 6 02:15:17 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Mac OS on Intel x86 In-Reply-To: <2B1CECD5-1BD3-49C9-9077-B83A021B7515@eml.cc> References: <0D172F78-85B2-4555-A5E0-CD6F264C969F@eml.cc> <2B1CECD5-1BD3-49C9-9077-B83A021B7515@eml.cc> Message-ID: At 01:38p +0530 10/06/2005, Aditya Sengupta didst inscribe upon an electronic papyrus: >On 06-Oct-05, at 03:01 , Walter Ian Kaye wrote: > >>Sounds like it depends on what his definition of "works" is. ;) >>Maybe he wants to be a tester (and risk data loss, etc.)? >> >Yes, actually. I wouldn't mind testing a version of Missing Sync >that works on OS X (Intel) Hmm. Since there's only one such Intel system, yours would probably have to be configured differently from M/S's to be of much use. Like if you've installed some universal binary .kext's, etc. Speaking hypothetically, of course. -Walter "I know nahsing. Nahsing." From avtargill at gmail.com Tue Oct 11 06:22:35 2005 From: avtargill at gmail.com (Avtar Gill) Date: Tue Oct 11 06:22:37 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Entourage 2004 and Treo 650 In-Reply-To: <5EC40937-1AA4-42ED-A3DD-7EBEDF61FF1D@extremesims.com> References: <5EC40937-1AA4-42ED-A3DD-7EBEDF61FF1D@extremesims.com> Message-ID: This has probably been discussed on this list before but just in case it hasn't, here is a link to a discussion I had with another Mac/Treo user on the Apple forums. Seems like the iSync and Address Book,iCal combination isn't that much better than relying on the Entourage conduit. http://discussions.info.apple.com/webx?14@508.ZNxuahwTXGK.1194761@.68bb93cc From mith at mac.com Wed Oct 12 15:41:32 2005 From: mith at mac.com (Michael Thompson) Date: Wed Oct 12 15:41:37 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Entourage 2004 and Treo 650 In-Reply-To: References: <5EC40937-1AA4-42ED-A3DD-7EBEDF61FF1D@extremesims.com> Message-ID: Missng sync stopped working on my titanium powerbook with latest tiger. The sync fails. I downloaded the latest MS from the web site and reinstalled but it wouldn't do it. Here is what the log said. Does anyone know what I should do? Thanks. Mike Failed to install Missing Sync.prc ? - Unexpected error number 0x4015 ? - Unexpected error number 0x4015 ? ?Failed Install (0x4015) ?10/12/05 6:38 PM iSync Conduit starting ?10/12/05 6:38 PM SyncOpenDB returned 16405 for database AddressDB, creating a new database ?10/12/05 6:38 PM Warning: Could not create database AddressDB (return code 16405), ignoring database ?10/12/05 6:38 PM iSync Conduit: Got back NULL from rendezvous for request BladeGetAllRecords ?10/12/05 6:38 PM iSync Conduit: Sending Error Response 1: iSync Conduit: Could not find database AddressDB ?10/12/05 6:38 PM iSync Conduit: received NULL message, disconnecting... ?OK iSync Conduit ?MemoPad conduit was unable to open the MemoPad database on the handheld. ?Failed Mark/Space MemoPad (0x4015) ?Failed Media (0x4015) ?Failed Note Pad (0x4015) ?TimeCopy: rtt measurement failed: 16405 ?OK TimeCopy with 1 message(s) ?OK Voice Memo ? - Unexpected error number 0x4015 ? ?Failed Install (0x4015) ?Failed Backup (0x4015) ?Sync completed successfully at 10/12/05 6:38 PM (18:38:21) From wmlaven at platinotype.com Wed Oct 12 16:50:20 2005 From: wmlaven at platinotype.com (William Laven) Date: Wed Oct 12 16:49:26 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] question re: laptop and desktop Message-ID: I've got a G4 tower, running 10.4.2 and have Missing Sync installed. My wife has a G4 laptop, running 10.3.9 without Missing Sync. Here's what I'm hoping to do. I'd like to set it up so that I can periodically sync my Palm Tungsten C with her laptop so she has a copy of my up-to-date schedule. For that, I want to sync my Palm via iCal on her laptop, but I do not want my address book sync'd with her laptop. She does not use iCal so all the entries would be mine which is what we want so she can refer to it when scheduling stuff for the both of us. Is there a way to do this so she'll have my Calendar events, but not my address book entries? If so, would I have to do the syncing on her laptop via iSync since she doesn't have Missing Sync? I checked her iSync and it doesn't seem possible to be able to designate calendar only. And could it be done so after putting my Calendar stuff on her laptop, I can go back to my desktop and not readjust any settings to do my own Missing Sync syncs? Thanks, Bill ________________________________________________________ William Laven Photography, 1931 23rd Street, San Francisco, CA, 94107 415-647-9292 (voice) 415-647-9294 (fax) www.platinotype.com You can view my calendar at: http://ical.mac.com/wmlaven/ William32Laven From mhines at midpac.edu Wed Oct 12 16:54:50 2005 From: mhines at midpac.edu (Mark Hines) Date: Wed Oct 12 16:54:54 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Entourage 2004 and Treo 650 same with tungsten e2 and mac tiger In-Reply-To: References: <5EC40937-1AA4-42ED-A3DD-7EBEDF61FF1D@extremesims.com> Message-ID: HI All - I have had real issues with my Tungsten E2 as well. I have seen many of the same errors in my log. At one point I finally got it to put my address book and ical appts, but couldn't figure out for the life of me how to get the todo list out of ical to sync What got me that far was completely installing Palm Desktop, then reinstalling ms. Then, putting ONLY the isync , install and backup conduits in my list anyone have advice on how to get the to do list to come over? I have used 4 different palms on macs over the past 8 years. I have NEVER had this many problems getting good syncing. Oh - one last thing - on every other palm I had, the syncing took less than one minute once I got my first good sync. Even with this one at least updating the ical appts, it takes over 10 minutes to sync. It's almost like it is re-writing to whole fie all over again - too long for a 'quickie' sync. mark hines On Oct 12, 2005, at 12:41 PM, Michael Thompson wrote: > > Missng sync stopped working on my > titanium powerbook with latest tiger. > > The sync fails. > > I downloaded the latest MS from > the web site and reinstalled but > it wouldn't do it. Here is what the > log said. Does anyone know what > I should do? > > Thanks. > > Mike > > > Failed to install Missing Sync.prc > - Unexpected error number 0x4015 > - Unexpected error number 0x4015 > Failed Install (0x4015) > 10/12/05 6:38 PM iSync Conduit starting > 10/12/05 6:38 PM SyncOpenDB returned 16405 for database AddressDB, > creating a new database > 10/12/05 6:38 PM Warning: Could not create database AddressDB > (return code 16405), ignoring database > 10/12/05 6:38 PM iSync Conduit: Got back NULL from rendezvous for > request BladeGetAllRecords > 10/12/05 6:38 PM iSync Conduit: Sending Error Response 1: iSync > Conduit: Could not find database AddressDB > 10/12/05 6:38 PM iSync Conduit: received NULL message, > disconnecting... > OK iSync Conduit > MemoPad conduit was unable to open the MemoPad database on the > handheld. > Failed Mark/Space MemoPad (0x4015) > Failed Media (0x4015) > Failed Note Pad (0x4015) > TimeCopy: rtt measurement failed: 16405 > OK TimeCopy with 1 message(s) > OK Voice Memo > - Unexpected error number 0x4015 > Failed Install (0x4015) > Failed Backup (0x4015) > Sync completed successfully at 10/12/05 6:38 PM (18:38:21) > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives > can be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > From loriolson at mac.com Wed Oct 12 19:31:14 2005 From: loriolson at mac.com (Lori M Olson) Date: Wed Oct 12 19:30:56 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] question re: laptop and desktop In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9110F631-75FC-4BC8-9533-017D9509E391@mac.com> Do you both have .Mac accounts? You could publish your iCal calendar to .Mac, and then she could subscribe to it... That's what my husband and I do. Regards, Lori On Oct 12, 2005, at 5:50 PM, William Laven wrote: > I've got a G4 tower, running 10.4.2 and have Missing Sync > installed. My wife has a G4 laptop, running 10.3.9 without Missing > Sync. > > Here's what I'm hoping to do. I'd like to set it up so that I can > periodically sync my Palm Tungsten C with her laptop so she has a > copy of my up-to-date schedule. For that, I want to sync my Palm > via iCal on her laptop, but I do not want my address book sync'd > with her laptop. She does not use iCal so all the entries would be > mine which is what we want so she can refer to it when scheduling > stuff for the both of us. > > Is there a way to do this so she'll have my Calendar events, but > not my address book entries? If so, would I have to do the syncing > on her laptop via iSync since she doesn't have Missing Sync? I > checked her iSync and it doesn't seem possible to be able to > designate calendar only. And could it be done so after putting my > Calendar stuff on her laptop, I can go back to my desktop and not > readjust any settings to do my own Missing Sync syncs? > > Thanks, > Bill From wmlaven at platinotype.com Wed Oct 12 20:32:50 2005 From: wmlaven at platinotype.com (William Laven) Date: Wed Oct 12 20:31:56 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] question re: laptop and desktop In-Reply-To: <9110F631-75FC-4BC8-9533-017D9509E391@mac.com> References: <9110F631-75FC-4BC8-9533-017D9509E391@mac.com> Message-ID: <12766939-4570-46B1-8EB0-0FFB74CF1ABE@platinotype.com> I do publish a single calendar to .Mac (which is all you can do), but only one of several in iCal and on my Palm, so I want to go the sync route so that she has all my calendars on her laptop. On Oct 12, 2005, at 7:31 PM, Lori M Olson wrote: > Do you both have .Mac accounts? You could publish your iCal > calendar to .Mac, and then she could subscribe to it... > > That's what my husband and I do. > > Regards, Lori > > On Oct 12, 2005, at 5:50 PM, William Laven wrote: > > >> I've got a G4 tower, running 10.4.2 and have Missing Sync >> installed. My wife has a G4 laptop, running 10.3.9 without Missing >> Sync. >> >> Here's what I'm hoping to do. I'd like to set it up so that I can >> periodically sync my Palm Tungsten C with her laptop so she has a >> copy of my up-to-date schedule. For that, I want to sync my Palm >> via iCal on her laptop, but I do not want my address book sync'd >> with her laptop. She does not use iCal so all the entries would be >> mine which is what we want so she can refer to it when scheduling >> stuff for the both of us. >> >> Is there a way to do this so she'll have my Calendar events, but >> not my address book entries? If so, would I have to do the syncing >> on her laptop via iSync since she doesn't have Missing Sync? I >> checked her iSync and it doesn't seem possible to be able to >> designate calendar only. And could it be done so after putting my >> Calendar stuff on her laptop, I can go back to my desktop and not >> readjust any settings to do my own Missing Sync syncs? >> >> Thanks, >> Bill >> > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives > can be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > ________________________________________________________ William Laven Photography, 1931 23rd Street, San Francisco, CA, 94107 415-647-9292 (voice) 415-647-9294 (fax) www.platinotype.com You can view my calendar at: http://ical.mac.com/wmlaven/ William32Laven From loriolson at mac.com Wed Oct 12 20:46:55 2005 From: loriolson at mac.com (Lori M Olson) Date: Wed Oct 12 20:46:42 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] question re: laptop and desktop In-Reply-To: <12766939-4570-46B1-8EB0-0FFB74CF1ABE@platinotype.com> References: <9110F631-75FC-4BC8-9533-017D9509E391@mac.com> <12766939-4570-46B1-8EB0-0FFB74CF1ABE@platinotype.com> Message-ID: <5629F0B5-3109-4C64-B47E-97D6BF59DDDD@mac.com> I'll have to beg to differ with you here. My husband and I have each published 2 calendar's to .Mac. Home and Work... On Oct 12, 2005, at 9:32 PM, William Laven wrote: > I do publish a single calendar to .Mac (which is all you can do), > but only one of several in iCal and on my Palm, so I want to go the > sync route so that she has all my calendars on her laptop. > > > On Oct 12, 2005, at 7:31 PM, Lori M Olson wrote: > > >> Do you both have .Mac accounts? You could publish your iCal >> calendar to .Mac, and then she could subscribe to it... >> >> That's what my husband and I do. >> >> Regards, Lori >> >> On Oct 12, 2005, at 5:50 PM, William Laven wrote: >> >> >> >>> I've got a G4 tower, running 10.4.2 and have Missing Sync >>> installed. My wife has a G4 laptop, running 10.3.9 without >>> Missing Sync. >>> >>> Here's what I'm hoping to do. I'd like to set it up so that I can >>> periodically sync my Palm Tungsten C with her laptop so she has a >>> copy of my up-to-date schedule. For that, I want to sync my Palm >>> via iCal on her laptop, but I do not want my address book sync'd >>> with her laptop. She does not use iCal so all the entries would >>> be mine which is what we want so she can refer to it when >>> scheduling stuff for the both of us. >>> >>> Is there a way to do this so she'll have my Calendar events, but >>> not my address book entries? If so, would I have to do the >>> syncing on her laptop via iSync since she doesn't have Missing >>> Sync? I checked her iSync and it doesn't seem possible to be able >>> to designate calendar only. And could it be done so after putting >>> my Calendar stuff on her laptop, I can go back to my desktop and >>> not readjust any settings to do my own Missing Sync syncs? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Bill >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives >> can be found at: >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk >> >> > > ________________________________________________________ > > William Laven Photography, 1931 23rd Street, San > Francisco, CA, 94107 > 415-647-9292 (voice) 415-647-9294 (fax) > www.platinotype.com > You can view my calendar at: http://ical.mac.com/ > wmlaven/William32Laven > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives > can be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > From wmlaven at platinotype.com Wed Oct 12 22:11:36 2005 From: wmlaven at platinotype.com (William Laven) Date: Wed Oct 12 22:10:41 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] question re: laptop and desktop In-Reply-To: <5629F0B5-3109-4C64-B47E-97D6BF59DDDD@mac.com> References: <9110F631-75FC-4BC8-9533-017D9509E391@mac.com> <12766939-4570-46B1-8EB0-0FFB74CF1ABE@platinotype.com> <5629F0B5-3109-4C64-B47E-97D6BF59DDDD@mac.com> Message-ID: <0C6EB14D-FF6E-4684-B224-949B619EA209@platinotype.com> I didn't know you could do that, Lori. I'll try it and see what happens. Thanks. On Oct 12, 2005, at 8:46 PM, Lori M Olson wrote: > I'll have to beg to differ with you here. My husband and I have > each published 2 calendar's to .Mac. Home and Work... > > On Oct 12, 2005, at 9:32 PM, William Laven wrote: > > >> I do publish a single calendar to .Mac (which is all you can do), >> but only one of several in iCal and on my Palm, so I want to go >> the sync route so that she has all my calendars on her laptop. >> >> >> On Oct 12, 2005, at 7:31 PM, Lori M Olson wrote: >> >> >> >>> Do you both have .Mac accounts? You could publish your iCal >>> calendar to .Mac, and then she could subscribe to it... >>> >>> That's what my husband and I do. >>> >>> Regards, Lori >>> >>> On Oct 12, 2005, at 5:50 PM, William Laven wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> I've got a G4 tower, running 10.4.2 and have Missing Sync >>>> installed. My wife has a G4 laptop, running 10.3.9 without >>>> Missing Sync. >>>> >>>> Here's what I'm hoping to do. I'd like to set it up so that I >>>> can periodically sync my Palm Tungsten C with her laptop so she >>>> has a copy of my up-to-date schedule. For that, I want to sync >>>> my Palm via iCal on her laptop, but I do not want my address >>>> book sync'd with her laptop. She does not use iCal so all the >>>> entries would be mine which is what we want so she can refer to >>>> it when scheduling stuff for the both of us. >>>> >>>> Is there a way to do this so she'll have my Calendar events, but >>>> not my address book entries? If so, would I have to do the >>>> syncing on her laptop via iSync since she doesn't have Missing >>>> Sync? I checked her iSync and it doesn't seem possible to be >>>> able to designate calendar only. And could it be done so after >>>> putting my Calendar stuff on her laptop, I can go back to my >>>> desktop and not readjust any settings to do my own Missing Sync >>>> syncs? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Bill >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >>> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >>> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives >>> can be found at: >>> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk >>> >>> >>> >> >> ________________________________________________________ >> >> William Laven Photography, 1931 23rd Street, San >> Francisco, CA, 94107 >> 415-647-9292 (voice) 415-647-9294 (fax) >> www.platinotype.com >> You can view my calendar at: http://ical.mac.com/ >> wmlaven/William32Laven >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives >> can be found at: >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives > can be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > ________________________________________________________ William Laven Photography, 1931 23rd Street, San Francisco, CA, 94107 415-647-9292 (voice) 415-647-9294 (fax) www.platinotype.com You can view my calendar at: http://ical.mac.com/wmlaven/ William32Laven From wlists at upstairsefx.com Thu Oct 13 07:31:29 2005 From: wlists at upstairsefx.com (Wally Rodriguez) Date: Thu Oct 13 07:31:47 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Entourage 2004 and Treo 650 same with tungsten e2 and mac tiger In-Reply-To: References: <5EC40937-1AA4-42ED-A3DD-7EBEDF61FF1D@extremesims.com> Message-ID: <4BE3994B-3FAD-4432-AC76-0D0247D23621@upstairsefx.com> I continue to have issues both with bluetooth sync and usb sync. It always gets stuck on the address book. Starting to become a real pain. At least I can back up to my sd card, otherwise I'd be freakin' Are others able to sync their 650's in any reasonable way? What are your setups like? I'm on tiger (10.4.2) on a 1Ghz aluminum powerbook. BTW, the windows mobile software works really well.... W. On Oct 12, 2005, at 7:54 PM, Mark Hines wrote: > HI All - I have had real issues with my Tungsten E2 as well. I have > seen many of the same errors in my log. At one point I finally got > it to put my address book and ical appts, but couldn't figure out > for the life of me how to get the todo list out of ical to sync > > What got me that far was completely installing Palm Desktop, then > reinstalling ms. > Then, putting ONLY the isync , install and backup conduits in my list > > anyone have advice on how to get the to do list to come over? I > have used 4 different palms on macs over the past 8 years. I have > NEVER had this many problems getting good syncing. > > Oh - one last thing - on every other palm I had, the syncing took > less than one minute once I got my first good sync. Even with this > one at least updating the ical appts, it takes over 10 minutes to > sync. It's almost like it is re-writing to whole fie all over again > - too long for a 'quickie' sync. > > mark hines > > On Oct 12, 2005, at 12:41 PM, Michael Thompson wrote: > > >> >> Missng sync stopped working on my >> titanium powerbook with latest tiger. >> >> The sync fails. >> >> I downloaded the latest MS from >> the web site and reinstalled but >> it wouldn't do it. Here is what the >> log said. Does anyone know what >> I should do? >> >> Thanks. >> >> Mike >> >> >> Failed to install Missing Sync.prc >> - Unexpected error number 0x4015 >> - Unexpected error number 0x4015 >> Failed Install (0x4015) >> 10/12/05 6:38 PM iSync Conduit starting >> 10/12/05 6:38 PM SyncOpenDB returned 16405 for database AddressDB, >> creating a new database >> 10/12/05 6:38 PM Warning: Could not create database AddressDB >> (return code 16405), ignoring database >> 10/12/05 6:38 PM iSync Conduit: Got back NULL from rendezvous for >> request BladeGetAllRecords >> 10/12/05 6:38 PM iSync Conduit: Sending Error Response 1: iSync >> Conduit: Could not find database AddressDB >> 10/12/05 6:38 PM iSync Conduit: received NULL message, >> disconnecting... >> OK iSync Conduit >> MemoPad conduit was unable to open the MemoPad database on the >> handheld. >> Failed Mark/Space MemoPad (0x4015) >> Failed Media (0x4015) >> Failed Note Pad (0x4015) >> TimeCopy: rtt measurement failed: 16405 >> OK TimeCopy with 1 message(s) >> OK Voice Memo >> - Unexpected error number 0x4015 >> Failed Install (0x4015) >> Failed Backup (0x4015) >> Sync completed successfully at 10/12/05 6:38 PM (18:38:21) >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives >> can be found at: >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives > can be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > > From ml1211 at mac.com Thu Oct 13 07:59:00 2005 From: ml1211 at mac.com (Michael Lee) Date: Thu Oct 13 07:59:06 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Entourage 2004 and Treo 650 same with tungsten e2 and mac tiger Message-ID: Wally, One thing I have found useful is to sync only one conduit in MS (say iSynch) and see what happens, this way you can isolate the conduit that may be causing problems. I have a 1.25 al powerbook and a Treo 650. I also run iSynch and 10.4.2 as well as MS. I can ONLY synch via Bluetooth and that is sporadic at best. The USB cable does not work at all. I have documents to go with the latest conduit and it makes no difference. I am considering going back to the Palm desktop synch and software. My bluetooth synch works about one of every 5 times but at least it seems to synch everything when it does work. I use entourage but do not synch anything with it or to it. It is crazy that the usb cable doesn?t work anymore. Mike -- From wlists at upstairsefx.com Thu Oct 13 10:04:05 2005 From: wlists at upstairsefx.com (Wally Rodriguez) Date: Thu Oct 13 10:04:25 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Entourage 2004 and Treo 650 same with tungsten e2 and mac tiger In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yes, I'm very disillusioned as MS always worked well for me. I will try only one conduit to see. Appreciate the info. W. On Oct 13, 2005, at 10:59 AM, Michael Lee wrote: > Wally, > One thing I have found useful is to sync only one conduit in MS > (say iSynch) > and see what happens, this way you can isolate the conduit that may be > causing problems. > I have a 1.25 al powerbook and a Treo 650. I also run iSynch and > 10.4.2 as > well as MS. I can ONLY synch via Bluetooth and that is sporadic at > best. > The USB cable does not work at all. I have documents to go with > the latest > conduit and it makes no difference. I am considering going back to > the Palm > desktop synch and software. My bluetooth synch works about one of > every 5 > times but at least it seems to synch everything when it does work. > I use > entourage but do not synch anything with it or to it. It is crazy > that the > usb cable doesn?t work anymore. > Mike > -- > From brad at bradbishop.com Thu Oct 13 11:55:24 2005 From: brad at bradbishop.com (Brad Bishop) Date: Thu Oct 13 12:30:15 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] MemoPad not syncing In-Reply-To: <200510131439.j9DEdaVc018677@sparrow.markspace.com> References: <200510131439.j9DEdaVc018677@sparrow.markspace.com> Message-ID: I'm using MemoPad to sync with my Treo 650 but synching accuracy is sketchy at best. Many times changes on the MemoPad application don't make it to the Treo. I've tried overwriting the Treo, but the problem eventually reappears. Any ideas? Thanks From rogerzender at hotmail.com Thu Oct 13 17:15:32 2005 From: rogerzender at hotmail.com (Roger Zender) Date: Thu Oct 13 17:15:39 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] OT: Any good experiences with Treo 650 / Entourage / Missing Sync?? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hey all, Sorry for going a bit off topic... I have a Treo 600 syncing with my Entourage 2004 (SP2) on OS 10.3. So far everything has been working fine, but now my phone has died and I need to get a new one. I was just going to get the Treo 650, but it sounds like a lot of you are having trouble with it. Is anyone having a good experience syncing the Treo 650?? Cause if not, I guess I should start looking for a different phone. I'd appreciate any thoughts you might have. Thanks! Roger ~~ http://www.rogerzmusic.com ~~ Support Live Music! > From: Michael Lee > Reply-To: "The Missing Sync (Mac/Palm OS) Discussion List" > > Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 10:59:00 -0400 > To: > Conversation: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Entourage 2004 and Treo 650 same > with tungsten e2 and mac tiger > Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Entourage 2004 and Treo 650 same with > tungsten e2 and mac tiger > > Wally, > One thing I have found useful is to sync only one conduit in MS (say iSynch) > and see what happens, this way you can isolate the conduit that may be > causing problems. > I have a 1.25 al powerbook and a Treo 650. I also run iSynch and 10.4.2 as > well as MS. I can ONLY synch via Bluetooth and that is sporadic at best. > The USB cable does not work at all. I have documents to go with the latest > conduit and it makes no difference. I am considering going back to the Palm > desktop synch and software. My bluetooth synch works about one of every 5 > times but at least it seems to synch everything when it does work. I use > entourage but do not synch anything with it or to it. It is crazy that the > usb cable doesn?t work anymore. > Mike > -- > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > From crussell at markspace.com Thu Oct 13 17:27:38 2005 From: crussell at markspace.com (Catherine Russell) Date: Thu Oct 13 17:27:42 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] OT: Any good experiences with Treo 650 / Entourage / Missing Sync?? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8ECDA127-F92D-4595-92B9-8E914EE88BCE@markspace.com> I love my 650 and can sync fine using Bluetooth or USB with The Missing Sync. I can't think of any phone I'd rather have. Some 650s have flakey USB cables that have to situated just right to sync. Other than that, I can report no sync issues with the 650 particular to the device. Catherine On Oct 13, 2005, at 5:15 PM, Roger Zender wrote: > > Hey all, > > Sorry for going a bit off topic... I have a Treo 600 syncing with my > Entourage 2004 (SP2) on OS 10.3. So far everything has been > working fine, > but now my phone has died and I need to get a new one. I was just > going to > get the Treo 650, but it sounds like a lot of you are having > trouble with > it. > > Is anyone having a good experience syncing the Treo 650?? Cause if > not, I > guess I should start looking for a different phone. > > I'd appreciate any thoughts you might have. > Thanks! > Roger > > ~~ http://www.rogerzmusic.com ~~ > Support Live Music! > > > >> From: Michael Lee >> Reply-To: "The Missing Sync (Mac/Palm OS) Discussion List" >> >> Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 10:59:00 -0400 >> To: >> Conversation: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Entourage 2004 and Treo >> 650 same >> with tungsten e2 and mac tiger >> Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Entourage 2004 and Treo 650 >> same with >> tungsten e2 and mac tiger >> >> Wally, >> One thing I have found useful is to sync only one conduit in MS >> (say iSynch) >> and see what happens, this way you can isolate the conduit that >> may be >> causing problems. >> I have a 1.25 al powerbook and a Treo 650. I also run iSynch and >> 10.4.2 as >> well as MS. I can ONLY synch via Bluetooth and that is sporadic >> at best. >> The USB cable does not work at all. I have documents to go with >> the latest >> conduit and it makes no difference. I am considering going back >> to the Palm >> desktop synch and software. My bluetooth synch works about one of >> every 5 >> times but at least it seems to synch everything when it does >> work. I use >> entourage but do not synch anything with it or to it. It is crazy >> that the >> usb cable doesn?t work anymore. >> Mike >> -- >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives >> can be found >> at: >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives > can be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > From jbernstein at nc.rr.com Thu Oct 13 17:53:39 2005 From: jbernstein at nc.rr.com (Jerry Bernstein) Date: Thu Oct 13 17:53:43 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] OT: Any good experiences with Treo 650 / Entourage / Missing Sync?? In-Reply-To: <8ECDA127-F92D-4595-92B9-8E914EE88BCE@markspace.com> References: <8ECDA127-F92D-4595-92B9-8E914EE88BCE@markspace.com> Message-ID: <3de0c774ab44864dddfd83aad0b93758@nc.rr.com> Man, you must have the magic touch. Are you using Mac OS X for your desktop or laptop? Jerry On Oct 13, 2005, at 8:27 PM, Catherine Russell wrote: > I love my 650 and can sync fine using Bluetooth or USB with The > Missing Sync. I can't think of any phone I'd rather have. Some 650s > have flakey USB cables that have to situated just right to sync. Other > than that, I can report no sync issues with the 650 particular to the > device. > > Catherine > > On Oct 13, 2005, at 5:15 PM, Roger Zender wrote: > >> >> Hey all, >> >> Sorry for going a bit off topic... I have a Treo 600 syncing with my >> Entourage 2004 (SP2) on OS 10.3. So far everything has been working >> fine, >> but now my phone has died and I need to get a new one. I was just >> going to >> get the Treo 650, but it sounds like a lot of you are having trouble >> with >> it. >> >> Is anyone having a good experience syncing the Treo 650?? Cause if >> not, I >> guess I should start looking for a different phone. >> >> I'd appreciate any thoughts you might have. >> Thanks! >> Roger >> >> ~~ http://www.rogerzmusic.com ~~ >> Support Live Music! >> >> >> >>> From: Michael Lee >>> Reply-To: "The Missing Sync (Mac/Palm OS) Discussion List" >>> >>> Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 10:59:00 -0400 >>> To: >>> Conversation: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Entourage 2004 and Treo 650 >>> same >>> with tungsten e2 and mac tiger >>> Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Entourage 2004 and Treo 650 >>> same with >>> tungsten e2 and mac tiger >>> >>> Wally, >>> One thing I have found useful is to sync only one conduit in MS (say >>> iSynch) >>> and see what happens, this way you can isolate the conduit that may >>> be >>> causing problems. >>> I have a 1.25 al powerbook and a Treo 650. I also run iSynch and >>> 10.4.2 as >>> well as MS. I can ONLY synch via Bluetooth and that is sporadic at >>> best. >>> The USB cable does not work at all. I have documents to go with the >>> latest >>> conduit and it makes no difference. I am considering going back to >>> the Palm >>> desktop synch and software. My bluetooth synch works about one of >>> every 5 >>> times but at least it seems to synch everything when it does work. >>> I use >>> entourage but do not synch anything with it or to it. It is crazy >>> that the >>> usb cable doesn?t work anymore. >>> Mike >>> -- >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >>> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >>> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can >>> be found >>> at: >>> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk >>> >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can >> be found at: >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk >> > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > From missing at biggerhammer.org Thu Oct 13 18:10:44 2005 From: missing at biggerhammer.org (missing@biggerhammer.org) Date: Thu Oct 13 18:10:50 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Can't get wi-fi sync happening again In-Reply-To: <200510061902.j96J0L8N027103@sparrow.markspace.com> References: <200510061902.j96J0L8N027103@sparrow.markspace.com> Message-ID: <31D32F0E-F838-4F43-8E9E-49FF2C25DB6B@biggerhammer.org> I have a Tungsten C and 2 G5 iMacs. I've been using MS to sync my addresses from Palm Desktop on one computer via wi-fi and syncing iCal, FMP, Docs to Go, and Time Copy via MS and iSync etc. over USB on another computer. I recently moved the Palm Desktop files to a different computer and installed MS on it. I can only get USB/cradle sync to work. I have had no success getting wi-fi happening again. I even switched the IP address from the old to host computer to the new one. The only "PC" that shows up on "Select a PC:" list is an actual PC in my office that has neither Palm Desktop or MS on it. I am entering the IP address manually as I have done in the past. But I just get a connection error. 1. Does any one have any suggestions? What else can I try. Are there port forwarding settings I need to reset on my router? In fact, I can't get either G5 iMac to Sync over wi-fi through the router. Network sync is checked on MS on both computers. I have followed the MS Net Sync Asst without success. 2. Is there anyway to sync to a Palm Data file that is stored on another computer? Sorry if the last question is off MS topic. Regards From brad at stop.mail-abuse.org Thu Oct 13 18:29:07 2005 From: brad at stop.mail-abuse.org (Brad Knowles) Date: Thu Oct 13 18:29:25 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Can't get wi-fi sync happening again In-Reply-To: <31D32F0E-F838-4F43-8E9E-49FF2C25DB6B@biggerhammer.org> References: <200510061902.j96J0L8N027103@sparrow.markspace.com> <31D32F0E-F838-4F43-8E9E-49FF2C25DB6B@biggerhammer.org> Message-ID: At 6:10 PM -0700 2005-10-13, missing@biggerhammer.org wrote: > In fact, I can't get either G5 iMac to Sync over wi-fi through the router. > Network sync is checked on MS on both computers. I have followed the MS > Net Sync Asst without success. Check your firewall settings on those machines. MacOS X comes with a built-in firewall, and I think it's turned on by default. If you can figure out which port is used for doing network sync over WiFi, you could open just that port. Otherwise, you'll have to open all the ports by disabling the firewall. But you may have already thought of that. -- Brad Knowles, "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See for more info. From wlists at upstairsefx.com Fri Oct 14 05:58:24 2005 From: wlists at upstairsefx.com (Wally Rodriguez) Date: Fri Oct 14 05:58:43 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] OT: Any good experiences with Treo 650 / Entourage / Missing Sync?? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The phone is awesome, much better than the 600. Even with some problems synching I would still get it. I understand it works with plain Palm destkop and that no big problems are happening there. It's with Missing Synch that some came up, but I'm sure those will be fixed as well. W. On Oct 13, 2005, at 8:15 PM, Roger Zender wrote: > Is anyone having a good experience syncing the Treo 650?? Cause if > not, I > guess I should start looking for a different phone. > > I'd appreciate any thoughts you might have. > Thanks! > Roger > From wlists at upstairsefx.com Fri Oct 14 05:58:54 2005 From: wlists at upstairsefx.com (Wally Rodriguez) Date: Fri Oct 14 05:59:04 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] OT: Any good experiences with Treo 650 / Entourage / Missing Sync?? In-Reply-To: <8ECDA127-F92D-4595-92B9-8E914EE88BCE@markspace.com> References: <8ECDA127-F92D-4595-92B9-8E914EE88BCE@markspace.com> Message-ID: <3ADF2B1F-899A-458F-8CC3-A891386960A6@upstairsefx.com> You are lucky indeed. I can't do either... W. On Oct 13, 2005, at 8:27 PM, Catherine Russell wrote: > I love my 650 and can sync fine using Bluetooth or USB with The > Missing Sync. I can't think of any phone I'd rather have. Some 650s > have flakey USB cables that have to situated just right to sync. > Other than that, I can report no sync issues with the 650 > particular to the device. > > Catherine From avtargill at gmail.com Fri Oct 14 06:01:55 2005 From: avtargill at gmail.com (Avtar Gill) Date: Fri Oct 14 06:02:00 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] OT: Any good experiences with Treo 650 / Entourage / Missing Sync?? In-Reply-To: <8ECDA127-F92D-4595-92B9-8E914EE88BCE@markspace.com> References: <8ECDA127-F92D-4595-92B9-8E914EE88BCE@markspace.com> Message-ID: On 10/13/05, Catherine Russell wrote: > I love my 650 and can sync fine using Bluetooth or USB with The > Missing Sync. I can't think of any phone I'd rather have. Some 650s > have flakey USB cables that have to situated just right to sync. > Other than that, I can report no sync issues with the 650 particular > to the device. Well I guess it depends on what your requirements are. I posted about this last month.. http://lists.markspace.com/pipermail/missing-sync-palmos-talk/2005-September/005413.html All I wanted to do (and still want to) was sync Entourage contacts (with home & office addresses along with home, office, phone and fax numbers), calendar and tasks with a Treo 650. But if address information isn't syncing then that throws a significant setback. Apple's iSync is a big disappointment as well, as mentioned previously here.. http://lists.markspace.com/pipermail/missing-sync-palmos-talk/2005-October/005437.html At this point, what would be nice is software that allows a user to sync Entourage (or iCal & Address Book) with the Palm Desktop and vice-versa. That way Palm handhelds could still sync with the Palm Desktop software without any issues and yet still use Entourage or Apple software. I have a dream... -- "He who throws mud only loses ground" - Fat Albert From list at valleyofspeed.com Sat Oct 15 22:14:07 2005 From: list at valleyofspeed.com (Mark Moorcroft) Date: Sat Oct 15 22:14:13 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Oracle Calendar Message-ID: <4351E19F.2060006@valleyofspeed.com> I am new to the list and to Missing Sync. I am also unfortunate enough to be supporting a group of Mac users where our calendar services are Oracle Calendar. The latest hot item that everyone must have is the Treo 650. Palm Desktop sucks enough that I am hoping Missing Sync and the Oracle conduit will eventually provide an alternative. I found a thread here a few months ago indicating that this combination is not usable at the moment. Has anyone heard about any changes in the wind? I have never actually seen this working on any Palm device. Can someone describe how it's actually supposed to operate? --MM From ucgajpd at ucl.ac.uk Sun Oct 16 03:21:42 2005 From: ucgajpd at ucl.ac.uk (Jason Davies) Date: Sun Oct 16 03:21:49 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Oracle Calendar In-Reply-To: <4351E19F.2060006@valleyofspeed.com> Message-ID: >I have never actually seen this working on any Palm device. Can >someone describe how it's actually supposed to operate? We use Oracle. I hook it up to my lifedrive. The connection is not difficult, you get an application on the Palm that basicaly does the settings of how to connect. The problem is that deleting items from the Palm is not reliable - sometimes they get restored (to the point where instead of deleting them, I now add 'cancelled' to the listing after a few awkward arrivals for rescheduled meetings. ALso, it duplicates. Not everything, but once it gets started, it keeps going. I end up with 8 copies of the same meeting frequently. So it 'works' but how I miss Palm Desktop! I currently connect through the Mac with the offline calendar there but I gather it's now possible to sync devices remotely, without a computer, if you have wireless access of some kind on the phone/pda. I haven't yet explored whether this will be more successful... So if you avoid editing stuff on the Palm calendar (ie let Oracle override for the most part) ou can survive. Also beware of repeating events - they can get confused, duplicated, etc... From rbutera at ece.gatech.edu Sun Oct 16 14:41:47 2005 From: rbutera at ece.gatech.edu (Robert Butera) Date: Sun Oct 16 14:41:55 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: Oracle Calendar In-Reply-To: <200510161900.j9GJ0ire002296@sparrow.markspace.com> References: <200510161900.j9GJ0ire002296@sparrow.markspace.com> Message-ID: A solution to using Oracle Calendar "effortlessly" is to switch to a SyncML client. There are two steps: 1) Our university installed "Oracle Sync Server" to use with Oracle Calendar. 2) Get a SyncML client. I use this one (shareware): http://www.synthesis.ch/ 3) Set it up with the instructions from Oracle/your-IT to connect to your sync server. To sync, establish an internet connection with Missing Sync (I use the Internet Connect button in Missing Sync on my desktop, and a wireless card in my Palm T3 when I'm around campus or at home). There are several advantages to this approach over Oracle Calendar's palm conduit: - it handles repeating events! (something infuriates Oracle Calendar users -- you cannot schedule repeating events on the PDA and have them sync correctly) - you can sync your calendar any time -- I update my calendar a lot, and several folks have scheduling privileges, so this helps avoid the "asynchronous scheduling of two appointments at the same time" by me and my admin support folks - I use to think this was a nuisance, but the meeting is prepended by a symbol indicating your priority in the Oracle Client (like [+]) I hope this helps. From ucgajpd at ucl.ac.uk Sun Oct 16 15:01:49 2005 From: ucgajpd at ucl.ac.uk (Jason Davies) Date: Sun Oct 16 15:02:09 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: Oracle Calendar In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > >I hope this helps. so do I - I'll look into it immediately! thank. From brianleee at gmail.com Sun Oct 16 16:11:22 2005 From: brianleee at gmail.com (Brian Lee) Date: Sun Oct 16 16:11:25 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] OT: Any good experiences with Treo 650 / Entourage / Missing Sync?? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <215E2CB1-8522-4FB1-80E3-81209A0027A2@gmail.com> Depends on what you mean by "good" it works half assed if you ask me it's not like an apple product where syncing is seamless and the fields automatically sync up as if they were copied directly from your mac to your treo and this isn't missing syncs fault its apple conduit not being updated and written half assed. For one address book fields from Apple address book don't directly sync with your mac some of them map correctly some don't address book categories don't work at all all your new addresses from your mac get filed under unfiled, it can be quite annoying to refile everything on your treo especially when you can't "mass" refile. Bluetooth sync with miss sync is slow and but thats a result of bluetooth no missing sync, and bluetooth sync is flaky sometimes it will start syncing and just die so you have to kill all the missing sync processes and restart missing sync, sometimes conduits decided to die which causes problems with missing sync. I've also had experiences where missing sync refuses to change from sync mode to internet shareing mode and vise versa basically refusing to change modes so you have to restart all the missing sync processes and there are about 3. I don't sync with entourage so I don't have much experience with that. On 13-Oct-05, at 8:15 PM, Roger Zender wrote: > > Hey all, > > Sorry for going a bit off topic... I have a Treo 600 syncing with my > Entourage 2004 (SP2) on OS 10.3. So far everything has been > working fine, > but now my phone has died and I need to get a new one. I was just > going to > get the Treo 650, but it sounds like a lot of you are having > trouble with > it. > > Is anyone having a good experience syncing the Treo 650?? Cause if > not, I > guess I should start looking for a different phone. > > I'd appreciate any thoughts you might have. > Thanks! > Roger > > ~~ http://www.rogerzmusic.com ~~ > Support Live Music! > > > >> From: Michael Lee >> Reply-To: "The Missing Sync (Mac/Palm OS) Discussion List" >> >> Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 10:59:00 -0400 >> To: >> Conversation: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Entourage 2004 and Treo >> 650 same >> with tungsten e2 and mac tiger >> Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Entourage 2004 and Treo 650 >> same with >> tungsten e2 and mac tiger >> >> Wally, >> One thing I have found useful is to sync only one conduit in MS >> (say iSynch) >> and see what happens, this way you can isolate the conduit that >> may be >> causing problems. >> I have a 1.25 al powerbook and a Treo 650. I also run iSynch and >> 10.4.2 as >> well as MS. I can ONLY synch via Bluetooth and that is sporadic >> at best. >> The USB cable does not work at all. I have documents to go with >> the latest >> conduit and it makes no difference. I am considering going back >> to the Palm >> desktop synch and software. My bluetooth synch works about one of >> every 5 >> times but at least it seems to synch everything when it does >> work. I use >> entourage but do not synch anything with it or to it. It is crazy >> that the >> usb cable doesn?t work anymore. >> Mike >> -- >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives >> can be found >> at: >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives > can be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > From nickbk at dcs.qmul.ac.uk Mon Oct 17 10:07:21 2005 From: nickbk at dcs.qmul.ac.uk (Nick Bryan-Kinns) Date: Mon Oct 17 10:07:25 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] multiple plams sharing internet access? Message-ID: hi does anyone know if it is possible for multiple palms to share internet access with my mac os x via bluetooth? missing sync for palm only seems to support one connection at a time nick. From sgruby at markspace.com Mon Oct 17 10:35:28 2005 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Mon Oct 17 10:35:38 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] multiple plams sharing internet access? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Oct 17, 2005, at 10:07 AM, Nick Bryan-Kinns wrote: > hi > > does anyone know if it is possible for multiple palms to share > internet access with my mac os x via bluetooth? > > missing sync for palm only seems to support one connection at a time > You are correct in that Missing Sync only supports one connection at a time; this is by design and currently we have no plans on changing that behavior. I don't believe there is an easy way to do what you're asking as the Mac can only advertise one Bluetooth serial port at a time and each Palm would need a separate Bluetooth serial port in order to connect. I'd recommend investigating a hardware Bluetooth access point; they appear to run < $150. -- Scott Gruby Lead Engineer Mark/Space, Inc. Please visit for assistance with Mark/Space products. From Patricia at PatriciaWarwick.com Mon Oct 17 12:24:13 2005 From: Patricia at PatriciaWarwick.com (Patricia Warwick) Date: Mon Oct 17 12:24:22 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Problem syncing AvantGo (untrusted security certificate) Message-ID: I am unable to sync AvantGo from my Tungsten T5 to Mac OS X. I get this error: Error 5463: Error while reading from the AvantGo Server. When I attempted to connect to AvantGo's secure server I got this message in Safari's Activity Log: https://oascentral.avantgo.com/RealMedia/ads/adstream_mjx.ads/ my.avantgo.com/1417485974@Top,Middle,Bottom? interest=1&interest=7&interest=14&interest=25&country=ca®ion=1&langua ge=en_US&device= untrusted security certificate Could these two errors be related? From amcutting at yahoo.co.uk Tue Oct 18 11:33:06 2005 From: amcutting at yahoo.co.uk (Alastair Cutting) Date: Tue Oct 18 11:33:12 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Problem syncing AvantGo (untrusted security certificate) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <972856E7-9250-497D-8841-CDB570B56207@yahoo.co.uk> Have you tried ticking "refresh All Content" in the M/S Conduit for AvantGo - Settings - section? I find that usually clears up stalling AvantGo info. -- Alastair Cutting On 17 Oct 2005, at 20:24, Patricia Warwick wrote: > I am unable to sync AvantGo from my Tungsten T5 to Mac OS X. > > I get this error: > Error 5463: Error while reading from the AvantGo Server. > > When I attempted to connect to AvantGo's secure server I got this > message in Safari's Activity Log: > > https://oascentral.avantgo.com/RealMedia/ads/adstream_mjx.ads/ > my.avantgo.com/1417485974@Top,Middle,Bottom? > interest=1&interest=7&interest=14&interest=25&country=ca®ion=1&lang > uage=en_US&device= > untrusted security certificate > > Could these two errors be related? > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives > can be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From Patricia at PatriciaWarwick.com Tue Oct 18 12:47:51 2005 From: Patricia at PatriciaWarwick.com (Patricia Warwick) Date: Tue Oct 18 12:47:53 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Problem syncing AvantGo (untrusted security certificate) Message-ID: <02F0F55B-CB83-497D-95C6-37EBAE80CD6D@PatriciaWarwick.com> > Alastair Cutting > Have you tried ticking "refresh All Content" in the M/S Conduit for > AvantGo - Settings - section? I find that usually clears up stalling > AvantGo info. I initially tried with a new installation of the conduit and it did not work. I just tried again with the Refresh All Content setting but it made no difference. Patricia From ucgajpd at ucl.ac.uk Tue Oct 18 13:34:37 2005 From: ucgajpd at ucl.ac.uk (Jason Davies) Date: Tue Oct 18 13:34:44 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Problem syncing AvantGo (untrusted security certificate) In-Reply-To: <02F0F55B-CB83-497D-95C6-37EBAE80CD6D@PatriciaWarwick.com> Message-ID: > >I initially tried with a new installation of the conduit and it did >not work. I just tried again with the Refresh All Content setting but >it made no difference. check your password: I find it gets changed in the prefs for no reason that I can detect. From donald.stidwell at gmail.com Tue Oct 18 14:42:09 2005 From: donald.stidwell at gmail.com (Donald E. Stidwell) Date: Tue Oct 18 14:42:14 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Problem syncing AvantGo (untrusted security certificate) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <89FEAAEB-0F5E-4681-B738-11957ACA1B76@gmail.com> On Oct 18, 2005, at 4:34 PM, Jason Davies wrote: > > >> >> I initially tried with a new installation of the conduit and it did >> not work. I just tried again with the Refresh All Content setting but >> it made no difference. >> > > > check your password: I find it gets changed in the prefs for no > reason that I can detect. You can also clear your cache from the Avantgo web site, which I found also helps with these kind of problems. -- For I am not ashamed of the Gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to everyone that believeth... (Rom. 1:16) ---- Sent using Apple Mail on Mac OS X Tiger. From gbrandt at thetcsgroup.com Tue Oct 18 19:28:26 2005 From: gbrandt at thetcsgroup.com (Geoff Brandt) Date: Tue Oct 18 19:33:46 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Treo 600-650 steps? Message-ID: <7935B1C9-6DA6-48D2-B344-B3C715A5DF17@thetcsgroup.com> All, I use a Mac Powerbook running 10.4/Tiger. I'm moving from a treo 600 to 650 (600 died 2 months after warranty!). I already use Missing Sync with my 600. I don't use Palm desktop. I sync up iCal etc. on the Mac. I'm curious if I have to install the Palm Desktop software from the CD that came with the 650 and then reinstall missing Sync over it, then do an "overwrite" sync to move all my progs and data to my new 650. Or, can I just do an overwrite sync with the existing setup and not bother with the new CD's? I believe the Pam Desktop version in my powerbook and the one on the CD is the same 4.2.1. Please advise. -gb From brad at bradbishop.com Wed Oct 19 00:57:45 2005 From: brad at bradbishop.com (Brad Bishop) Date: Wed Oct 19 00:57:50 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] iSync with Treo 650 stopped working Message-ID: <553FDFEE-57F2-485E-A512-1339345BDD26@bradbishop.com> I've been syncing my Treo 650 with Address Book and iCal for some time now but it has suddenly stopped working. Here is an example of the error messages I get: Sync starting at 10/19/05 12:42 AM (00:42:01) on USB ?OK Install ?10/19/05 12:42 AM iSync Conduit starting ?10/19/05 12:46 AM Warning: couldn't add record for database DatebookDB ?10/19/05 12:46 AM iSync Conduit: Sending Error Response 7: iSync Conduit: Error occured adding record ?10/19/05 12:46 AM iSync Conduit: received NULL message, disconnecting... ?10/19/05 12:48 AM Warning: SyncCloseDB returned 536854447 for database DatebookDB ?OK iSync Conduit ? - Unexpected error number 0x1fffbfaf ? ?Failed Install (0x1fffbfaf) ?Failed Backup (0x1fffbfaf) ?Sync completed successfully at 10/19/05 12:50 AM (00:50:41) I've tried reinstalling Missing Sync, Palm Desktop (and then Missing Sync) and even reinstalling the OS. None of it seems to work. Everything else seems to sync properly with the Treo except for iSync. I thought it was some sort of corruption but I've deleted every preference I can think of and even exported then re-imported every calendar, all to no avail. Any suggestions? Thanks From rogerzender at hotmail.com Wed Oct 19 05:25:10 2005 From: rogerzender at hotmail.com (Roger Zender) Date: Wed Oct 19 05:25:15 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Treo 600-650 steps? In-Reply-To: <7935B1C9-6DA6-48D2-B344-B3C715A5DF17@thetcsgroup.com> Message-ID: I didn't need to install Palm Desktop for my situation. I just got a Treo 650 (after my 600's speaker died after only having it 6 mos.). Within an hour (and using NO software that came with my phone) I was using Missing Sync to wirelessly synchronize all my Entourage data between the phone and my PowerBook (and to wirelessly transfer pictures to my computer - cool feature!). I don't use iSync or Palm Desktop. I do have OS 10.3.9 / Entourage 2004 (SP2) and Missing Sync (newest). Great job Missing Sync! Roger ~~ http://www.rogerzmusic.com ~~ Support Live Music! > From: Geoff Brandt > Reply-To: "The Missing Sync (Mac/Palm OS) Discussion List" > > Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 19:28:26 -0700 > To: > Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Treo 600-650 steps? > > All, > > I use a Mac Powerbook running 10.4/Tiger. I'm moving from a treo 600 > to 650 (600 died 2 months after warranty!). I already use Missing > Sync with my 600. I don't use Palm desktop. I sync up iCal etc. on > the Mac. > > I'm curious if I have to install the Palm Desktop software from the > CD that came with the 650 and then reinstall missing Sync over it, > then do an "overwrite" sync to move all my progs and data to my new > 650. Or, can I just do an overwrite sync with the existing setup and > not bother with the new CD's? I believe the Pam Desktop version in my > powerbook and the one on the CD is the same 4.2.1. > > Please advise. > > -gb > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > From asb at cc.gatech.edu Wed Oct 19 11:16:00 2005 From: asb at cc.gatech.edu (Amy S. Bruckman) Date: Wed Oct 19 11:16:05 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] dialog box "there's a new version" Message-ID: Missing sync has been working well for me--I'm generally impressed. One small suggestion (I wonder if anyone else has had this same issue): I find the dialog box "There's a new version of Missing Sync" kind of annoying. I don't always upgrade right away (if it ain't broke....) So I hit sync, hear the sound that usually indicates that it's syncing, get up to go talk to someone or get a coffee. The dialog box often is hidden by other windows, so I don't see it. I come back ten minutes later and see that the sync timed out because it's waiting for me to deal with the dialog box. Could you make the dialog box not prevent you from syncing? Just a suggestion. Thanks for the neat tool. -- Amy From sgruby at markspace.com Wed Oct 19 14:14:54 2005 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Wed Oct 19 14:15:00 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] dialog box "there's a new version" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4190D88B-22CE-4FBE-AFF2-32A594764BDB@markspace.com> We'll see what we can do for a future version of the product. Thanks for the feedback. On Oct 19, 2005, at 11:16 AM, Amy S. Bruckman wrote: > > Missing sync has been working well for me--I'm generally impressed. > > One small suggestion (I wonder if anyone else has had this same > issue): I find the dialog box "There's a new version of Missing Sync" > kind of annoying. I don't always upgrade right away (if it ain't > broke....) So I hit sync, hear the sound that usually indicates that > it's syncing, get up to go talk to someone or get a coffee. The > dialog box often is hidden by other windows, so I don't see it. I > come back ten minutes later and see that the sync timed out because > it's waiting for me to deal with the dialog box. > > Could you make the dialog box not prevent you from syncing? > Just a suggestion. Thanks for the neat tool. > -- Scott Gruby Lead Engineer Mark/Space, Inc. Please visit for assistance with Mark/Space products. From Patricia at PatriciaWarwick.com Thu Oct 20 06:10:58 2005 From: Patricia at PatriciaWarwick.com (Patricia Warwick) Date: Thu Oct 20 06:11:08 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: missing-sync-palmos-talk Digest, Vol 29, Issue 13 In-Reply-To: <200510191903.j9JJ0T3e031633@sparrow.markspace.com> References: <200510191903.j9JJ0T3e031633@sparrow.markspace.com> Message-ID: Changing the password makes no difference. To double check, I deliberately entered an invalid password and got the following messages: Invalid login. Please check your username and password and try again. ?OK Mark/Space Conduit for AvantGo with 1 message(s) After I changed my password back to the "correct" one I got this: Account locked. Please try again later. ?OK Mark/Space Conduit for AvantGo with 1 message(s) which I suspect is due to the previous password failure. The original error was: Error 5463: Error while reading from the AvantGo Server. ?OK Mark/Space Conduit for AvantGo with 1 message(s) ? On Oct 19, 2005, at 15:03 PM, missing-sync-palmos-talk- request@lists.markspace.com wrote: >> >> I initially tried with a new installation of the conduit and it did >> not work. I just tried again with the Refresh All Content setting but >> it made no difference. >> > > > check your password: I find it gets changed in the prefs for no > reason that I can detect. > From mailinglists at detayls.com Thu Oct 20 09:02:18 2005 From: mailinglists at detayls.com (David Taylor) Date: Thu Oct 20 09:02:24 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Treo 650 event time zones and iCal... Message-ID: <19BD6C15-2B88-40E1-AD78-F7639FD799CB@detayls.com> Sorry if this is a FAQ. I'm a Missing Sync newbie. My shiny new Treo 650 from Verizon can support events in multiple time zones. There's a cryptic note in the install guide that tells you to switch the support off unless you are using Outlook on the PC. Can I use Missing Sync for Palm OS with iCal and turn on and use the time zone feature? Thanks. David -- David W. Taylor, Detayls www.detayls.com From Patricia at PatriciaWarwick.com Thu Oct 20 09:19:57 2005 From: Patricia at PatriciaWarwick.com (Patricia Warwick) Date: Thu Oct 20 09:20:06 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Treo 650 event time zones and iCal... In-Reply-To: <19BD6C15-2B88-40E1-AD78-F7639FD799CB@detayls.com> References: <19BD6C15-2B88-40E1-AD78-F7639FD799CB@detayls.com> Message-ID: <48A11BD1-F4B9-41CC-952E-41A5E326C4B7@PatriciaWarwick.com> David, Synchronization between PDA and iCal is handled by the iSync conduit and I don't believe it supports multiple time zones. It does appear from iSync help that you can select the time zone you use for syncing but there is no mention of multiple time zones (that I could find.) On Oct 20, 2005, at 12:02 PM, David Taylor wrote: > Sorry if this is a FAQ. I'm a Missing Sync newbie. > > My shiny new Treo 650 from Verizon can support events in multiple > time zones. > > There's a cryptic note in the install guide that tells you to > switch the support off unless you are using Outlook on the PC. > > Can I use Missing Sync for Palm OS with iCal and turn on and use > the time zone feature? From ucgajpd at ucl.ac.uk Thu Oct 20 09:21:45 2005 From: ucgajpd at ucl.ac.uk (Jason Davies) Date: Thu Oct 20 09:21:50 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Oracle/SyncML Message-ID: Thanks to whoever posted the suggestion of SyncML (I've mislaid the email) - it means I can leave behind a whole host of problems I was having. And of course, with MS' provision of an internet connection, it's still on-topic:-) After struggling with Oracle for over year in a Mac/Palm context, I have no hesitation recommending using this method to avoid a whole range of problems. It does add a step (it's not a conduit method) but it is far more effective. Using the conduit led to loss of data, endless reduplication and very sluggist response - as well as requiring the use of the Oracle Mac software. Now I can use PD again AND comply with the ned to 'keepOracle up to date' for work. cheers From n9vjg at sbcglobal.net Fri Oct 21 13:32:25 2005 From: n9vjg at sbcglobal.net (Photo Grafix) Date: Fri Oct 21 13:32:33 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Backup or Backup All Databases In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I did not see any details about the "Backup All Databases" checkbox in the Backup conduit. Can someone enlighten me on the differences? -- Eric C. M. Basir Photo Grafix http://www.abetterreality.net 847-673-7043 From sgruby at markspace.com Fri Oct 21 13:46:25 2005 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Fri Oct 21 13:46:34 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Backup or Backup All Databases In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Oct 21, 2005, at 1:32 PM, Photo Grafix wrote: > I did not see any details about the "Backup All Databases" checkbox > in the > Backup conduit. Can someone enlighten me on the differences? > > Palm application developers have to specify if they want their data files backed up; if a developer made a mistake and didn't check this or for some reason doesn't want it backed up, the normal backup won't backup the database files (.pdb). The problem is that if you restore a device, sometimes you'll be missing data. This option backs up the databases regardless of what the application developer intended. In most cases this is a good thing to do; however, in some cases, this could cause the backup to hang. In addition, this can cause extended backup times as certain databases get modified all the time and aren't normally backed up. -- Scott Gruby Lead Engineer Mark/Space, Inc. Please visit for assistance with Mark/Space products. From n9vjg at sbcglobal.net Fri Oct 21 13:52:46 2005 From: n9vjg at sbcglobal.net (Photo Grafix) Date: Fri Oct 21 13:52:53 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Backup or Backup All Databases In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I see. Could this be any way linked to the fact that every time I sync between my Zire31 and Entourage 11.2.1, categories I've deleted in Entourage show up again in Entourage? I have deleted all categories in my Palm. It's very annoying to say the least. I have re-installed Missing Sync, moved around Library files and nothing changes. It keeps "un-deleting" those pesky categories after syncing. Yikes! > From: Scott Gruby > Reply-To: "The Missing Sync (Mac/Palm OS) Discussion List" > > Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 13:46:25 -0700 > To: "The Missing Sync (Mac/Palm OS) Discussion List" > > Subject: Re: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Backup or Backup All Databases > > > On Oct 21, 2005, at 1:32 PM, Photo Grafix wrote: > >> I did not see any details about the "Backup All Databases" checkbox >> in the >> Backup conduit. Can someone enlighten me on the differences? >> >> > > Palm application developers have to specify if they want their data > files backed up; if a developer made a mistake and didn't check this > or for some reason doesn't want it backed up, the normal backup won't > backup the database files (.pdb). The problem is that if you restore > a device, sometimes you'll be missing data. This option backs up the > databases regardless of what the application developer intended. In > most cases this is a good thing to do; however, in some cases, this > could cause the backup to hang. In addition, this can cause extended > backup times as certain databases get modified all the time and > aren't normally backed up. > > -- > Scott Gruby > Lead Engineer > Mark/Space, Inc. > From sgruby at markspace.com Fri Oct 21 13:58:27 2005 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Fri Oct 21 13:58:35 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Backup or Backup All Databases In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2C9D1E93-613F-46A8-80A2-B123A4DF3AAF@markspace.com> On Oct 21, 2005, at 1:52 PM, Photo Grafix wrote: > I see. Could this be any way linked to the fact that every time I sync > between my Zire31 and Entourage 11.2.1, categories I've deleted in > Entourage > show up again in Entourage? I have deleted all categories in my Palm. > No, this would be a bug in the Entourage conduit. > It's very annoying to say the least. I have re-installed Missing > Sync, moved > around Library files and nothing changes. It keeps "un-deleting" > those pesky > categories after syncing. Yikes! You'll have to wait for Microsoft to fix the issue as it is nothing that Missing Sync can workaround. -- Scott Gruby Lead Engineer Mark/Space, Inc. Please visit for assistance with Mark/Space products. From n9vjg at sbcglobal.net Fri Oct 21 14:01:36 2005 From: n9vjg at sbcglobal.net (Photo Grafix) Date: Fri Oct 21 14:01:40 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Backup or Backup All Databases In-Reply-To: <2C9D1E93-613F-46A8-80A2-B123A4DF3AAF@markspace.com> Message-ID: Ah, another update. Scary. Thanks for the feedback. -- Eric C. M. Basir Photo Grafix http://www.abetterreality.net 847-673-7043 > From: Scott Gruby > Reply-To: "The Missing Sync (Mac/Palm OS) Discussion List" > > Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 13:58:27 -0700 > To: "The Missing Sync (Mac/Palm OS) Discussion List" > > Subject: Re: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Backup or Backup All Databases > > > On Oct 21, 2005, at 1:52 PM, Photo Grafix wrote: > >> I see. Could this be any way linked to the fact that every time I sync >> between my Zire31 and Entourage 11.2.1, categories I've deleted in >> Entourage >> show up again in Entourage? I have deleted all categories in my Palm. >> > > No, this would be a bug in the Entourage conduit. > >> It's very annoying to say the least. I have re-installed Missing >> Sync, moved >> around Library files and nothing changes. It keeps "un-deleting" >> those pesky >> categories after syncing. Yikes! > > You'll have to wait for Microsoft to fix the issue as it is nothing > that Missing Sync can workaround. > > -- > Scott Gruby > Lead Engineer > Mark/Space, Inc. > From berkowit at silcom.com Fri Oct 21 16:23:23 2005 From: berkowit at silcom.com (Paul Berkowitz) Date: Fri Oct 21 16:23:24 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Backup or Backup All Databases In-Reply-To: <2C9D1E93-613F-46A8-80A2-B123A4DF3AAF@markspace.com> Message-ID: On 10/21/05 1:58 PM, "Scott Gruby" wrote: > > On Oct 21, 2005, at 1:52 PM, Photo Grafix wrote: > >> I see. Could this be any way linked to the fact that every time I sync >> between my Zire31 and Entourage 11.2.1, categories I've deleted in >> Entourage >> show up again in Entourage? I have deleted all categories in my Palm. >> > > No, this would be a bug in the Entourage conduit. > >> It's very annoying to say the least. I have re-installed Missing >> Sync, moved >> around Library files and nothing changes. It keeps "un-deleting" >> those pesky >> categories after syncing. Yikes! > > You'll have to wait for Microsoft to fix the issue as it is nothing > that Missing Sync can workaround. I've not heard of such a bug (and I get to hear about most Entourage bugs). Get everything how you want it in Entourage, then do an "Entourage Overwrites Handheld" sync, and see if that works. If something has got "stuck" somewhere, you can try removing ~/Documents/Palm/Users/[username]/Entourage Data/Entourage Storage and doing another "Entourage Overwrites Handheld" sync. (MUST be this type!). There's always a slight possibility that you have a corrupt Entourage database, so if none of that works, rebuild the database (Option down at launch), then another "Entourage Overwrites Handheld" sync. I don't think there's any such bug with the Entourage conduit itself. -- Paul Berkowitz From n9vjg at sbcglobal.net Sat Oct 22 06:22:12 2005 From: n9vjg at sbcglobal.net (Photo Grafix) Date: Sat Oct 22 06:22:15 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Backup or Backup All Databases In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > > On 10/21/05 1:58 PM, "Scott Gruby" wrote: > >> >> On Oct 21, 2005, at 1:52 PM, Photo Grafix wrote: >> >>> I see. Could this be any way linked to the fact that every time I sync >>> between my Zire31 and Entourage 11.2.1, categories I've deleted in >>> Entourage >>> show up again in Entourage? I have deleted all categories in my Palm. >>> >> >> No, this would be a bug in the Entourage conduit. >> >>> It's very annoying to say the least. I have re-installed Missing >>> Sync, moved >>> around Library files and nothing changes. It keeps "un-deleting" >>> those pesky >>> categories after syncing. Yikes! >> >> You'll have to wait for Microsoft to fix the issue as it is nothing >> that Missing Sync can workaround. > > I've not heard of such a bug (and I get to hear about most Entourage bugs). > > Get everything how you want it in Entourage, then do an "Entourage > Overwrites Handheld" sync, and see if that works. > > If something has got "stuck" somewhere, you can try removing > ~/Documents/Palm/Users/[username]/Entourage Data/Entourage Storage > > and doing another "Entourage Overwrites Handheld" sync. (MUST be this > type!). > > There's always a slight possibility that you have a corrupt Entourage > database, so if none of that works, rebuild the database (Option down at > launch), then another "Entourage Overwrites Handheld" sync. > > I don't think there's any such bug with the Entourage conduit itself. > > -- > Paul Berkowitz > > Wow, Paul. You're all over the place like Spider-Man! Thanks for the help. Corruption is possible. I rely heavily on Entourage to manage my business and personal things. So I could have fiddled around with it too much. I followed your suggestions and the "ghosts" of deleted categories came back to haunt me. Here's two other odd things that happen: 1. Not ALL categories I've deleted re-appear. Just the ones I've used a lot (of course, now none of my calendar, addresses or notes are using categories). 14 to be exact (excluding the "Junk" category which I am not allowed to delete). Some of these started out as one category and I changed their names and/or color. 2. Now when I change the name of one of those "ghost" categories, another one reappears to "take its place" after synching! Do you have a recommended work-around? Maybe I could start a brand new identity and import an .rge archive??? I just want to start from scratch with these categories. It helps to organize, but it seems I'm stuck with the same names for the rest of my life! ecb From bandlc4 at ipa.net Sat Oct 22 06:52:48 2005 From: bandlc4 at ipa.net (Bob Cunningham) Date: Sat Oct 22 06:52:51 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Lost database app Message-ID: I was using mobileDB on my Palm Zire21. I switched to MacOS 10.4.2 and when I finally got Synched my app was missing and won't reinstall. The only way I can read these DB's is from my Palm. Can anybody help? Bob Cunningham Hot Springs Village, Arkansas USA mailto:bandlc4@ipa.net From m.griffith at mary.acu.edu.au Sat Oct 22 15:34:38 2005 From: m.griffith at mary.acu.edu.au (Michael Griffith) Date: Sat Oct 22 15:35:01 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Backup or Backup All Databases In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 22/10/05 6:46 AM, "Scott Gruby" wrote: Information may be of use to many. Missing Sync was losing Calendar items during Sync. I just discovered that the PalmDesktop had a new update for Tyger... My syncing is now working perfectly and I am using e2sync along with it which makes Entourage syncing a breeze MG > > On Oct 21, 2005, at 1:32 PM, Photo Grafix wrote: > >> I did not see any details about the "Backup All Databases" checkbox >> in the >> Backup conduit. Can someone enlighten me on the differences? >> >> > > Palm application developers have to specify if they want their data > files backed up; if a developer made a mistake and didn't check this > or for some reason doesn't want it backed up, the normal backup won't > backup the database files (.pdb). The problem is that if you restore > a device, sometimes you'll be missing data. This option backs up the > databases regardless of what the application developer intended. In > most cases this is a good thing to do; however, in some cases, this > could cause the backup to hang. In addition, this can cause extended > backup times as certain databases get modified all the time and > aren't normally backed up. > > -- > Scott Gruby > Lead Engineer > Mark/Space, Inc. > > > Please visit for assistance with > Mark/Space products. > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk Associate Professor Michael Griffith School of Arts and Sciences Australian Catholic University Limited ABN 15 050 192 660 PO Box 968, North Sydney 2059 Ph: +61 2 9701 4192 Fax: +61 2 9701 4263 Email: M.griffith@mary.acu.edu.au From walton at telus.net Sun Oct 23 22:27:35 2005 From: walton at telus.net (Lorne Walton) Date: Mon Oct 24 04:47:23 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Can't connect Message-ID: I thought I was subzcribed to this list, but haven't seen a message for a long while! Just got a replacement for my damaged Tungsten C; looks like a brand-new one this time, after having to pay to replace it twice this year. I was able to synchronize the new unit once via Cradle/cable, and now I just get "Can't connect... check your setup" messages. I have done soft & hard resets, with the result that my Palm is now back to factory default condition. The more I play with "my setup" the more I'm likely screwing things up. TMS 4.0.6, Mac OS X 10.4.2. Any quick thoughts? Thanks. -- "Never express yourself more clearly than you are able to think." [Niels Bohr] Lorne Walton, Maple Ridge, BC, Canada From list at valleyofspeed.com Mon Oct 24 08:20:48 2005 From: list at valleyofspeed.com (Mark Moorcroft) Date: Mon Oct 24 08:20:56 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Can't connect In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <435CFBD0.5090504@valleyofspeed.com> Turn off all but one conduit and try them one at a time. And turn off all the connection options in prefs but the one your actually using. Try cranking the speed down in connection options on the Palm. Lorne Walton wrote: > I thought I was subzcribed to this list, but haven't seen a message for > a long while! > > Just got a replacement for my damaged Tungsten C; looks like a brand-new > one this time, after having to pay to replace it twice this year. > > I was able to synchronize the new unit once via Cradle/cable, and now I > just get "Can't connect... check your setup" messages. I have done soft > & hard resets, with the result that my Palm is now back to factory > default condition. > > The more I play with "my setup" the more I'm likely screwing things up. > > TMS 4.0.6, Mac OS X 10.4.2. > > Any quick thoughts? Thanks. From walton at telus.net Mon Oct 24 13:54:04 2005 From: walton at telus.net (Lorne Walton) Date: Mon Oct 24 13:54:27 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Can't connect In-Reply-To: <435CFBD0.5090504@valleyofspeed.com> References: <435CFBD0.5090504@valleyofspeed.com> Message-ID: >Turn off all but one conduit and try them one at a time. Thanks, Mark. No difference, I'm afraid. >And turn off all the connection options in prefs but the one your >actually using. Only USB is turned on, for my Cradle/cable sync. I've never understood how to make "Network Connection" work. I can connect to the Web via Wi-Fi and Airport, but can't do VPN or network sync. >Try cranking the speed down in connection options on the Palm. Sorry, you've lost me there. Where do I find that? Impression is that there's a problem between the Palm, Cradle, Cable and Mac hardware. I can't see any evidence that TMS is involved in "The connection between your handheld computer and the desktop could not be established. Please check your setup and try again." -- "Never express yourself more clearly than you are able to think." [Niels Bohr] Lorne Walton, Maple Ridge, BC, Canada From list at valleyofspeed.com Mon Oct 24 14:20:35 2005 From: list at valleyofspeed.com (Mark Moorcroft) Date: Mon Oct 24 14:20:50 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Can't connect In-Reply-To: References: <435CFBD0.5090504@valleyofspeed.com> Message-ID: <435D5023.4000309@valleyofspeed.com> Lorne Walton wrote: >> Try cranking the speed down in connection options on the Palm. > > Sorry, you've lost me there. Where do I find that? HotSync/Connection Setup/Edit/Details > Impression is that there's a problem between the Palm, Cradle, Cable and > Mac hardware. I can't see any evidence that TMS is involved in "The > connection between your handheld computer and the desktop could not be > established. Please check your setup and try again." Maybe a silly question, but have you restarted the sync daemon (click mode button to "Do Nothing" on the Mac and back to sync) or rebooted? From clive at clivewilliamson.co.uk Mon Oct 24 14:48:24 2005 From: clive at clivewilliamson.co.uk (Clive Williamson) Date: Mon Oct 24 14:48:37 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Contact details Message-ID: I'm new to Palms, so any help would be appreciated with a syncing problem. I'm using the latest version of Missing Sync for Palm (4.0.6) and the latest version of Entourage (11.2.1). My diary seems to sync correctly, but while I have a full list of contacts, many of the addresses and birthdays are simply missing from the Palm. It may be something to do with only being able to have one address per contact (how am I supposed to get round this?), but I'm rather foxed at the moment. Clive From walton at telus.net Mon Oct 24 15:02:06 2005 From: walton at telus.net (Lorne Walton) Date: Mon Oct 24 15:04:05 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Can't connect In-Reply-To: <435D5023.4000309@valleyofspeed.com> References: <435CFBD0.5090504@valleyofspeed.com> <435D5023.4000309@valleyofspeed.com> Message-ID: >HotSync/Connection Setup/Edit/Details > >>Impression is that there's a problem between the Palm, Cradle, >>Cable and Mac hardware. I can't see any evidence that TMS is >>involved in "The connection between your handheld computer and the >>desktop could not be established. Please check your setup and try >>again." > >Maybe a silly question, but have you restarted the sync daemon >(click mode button to "Do Nothing" on the Mac and back to sync) or >rebooted? I have rebooted. Mark, I think your questions relate to the Mac OS app "HotSync" rather than to the Palm OS app by the same name. Am I right? I trashed the former long ago, believing it to be incompatible with TMS. Everything worked fine until recently, when I started using the new Tungsten C. As I mentioned, the first sync went without a glitch. Not even once, since then. Uh... all of a sudden it seems to be working! I wish I knew what fixed the glitch, but I do appreciate the time you've taken with me. -- "Never express yourself more clearly than you are able to think." [Niels Bohr] Lorne Walton, Maple Ridge, BC, Canada From list at valleyofspeed.com Mon Oct 24 16:41:07 2005 From: list at valleyofspeed.com (Mark Moorcroft) Date: Mon Oct 24 16:41:22 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Can't connect In-Reply-To: References: <435CFBD0.5090504@valleyofspeed.com> <435D5023.4000309@valleyofspeed.com> Message-ID: <435D7113.10403@valleyofspeed.com> Lorne Walton wrote: >> HotSync/Connection Setup/Edit/Details >> > Mark, I think your questions relate to the Mac OS app "HotSync" rather > than to the Palm OS app by the same name. Am I right? No, I was talking about the Hotsync app on the Palm and adjusting the speed. Glad it started working. My experience with all "hotsync" operations from Palm to Mac is that they have never been reliable. Every generation of Palm OS/Device I have had the misfortune to deal with has been this way. I can't fathom why they never seem to be able to get this reliable. I am unsure who is to blame either because Missing Syn and Palm both appear equally bad. How many years have they had to get this working? Of course this probably started all over again when Macs became UNIX based. From Patricia at PatriciaWarwick.com Mon Oct 24 19:08:09 2005 From: Patricia at PatriciaWarwick.com (Patricia Warwick) Date: Mon Oct 24 19:46:46 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Can't connect In-Reply-To: References: <435CFBD0.5090504@valleyofspeed.com> <435D5023.4000309@valleyofspeed.com> Message-ID: <6C806AE3-01DA-4D11-BACA-2FD4483C0530@PatriciaWarwick.com> Have you checked out iSync preferences? You should have iSync check the HotSync conduit. Go into iSync. Click on Enable Palm OS Syncing in the Devices menu and see if you get any error messages. On Oct 24, 2005, at 18:02 PM, Lorne Walton wrote: >> HotSync/Connection Setup/Edit/Details >> >> >>> Impression is that there's a problem between the Palm, Cradle, >>> Cable and Mac hardware. I can't see any evidence that TMS is >>> involved in "The connection between your handheld computer and >>> the desktop could not be established. Please check your setup and >>> try again." >>> >> >> Maybe a silly question, but have you restarted the sync daemon >> (click mode button to "Do Nothing" on the Mac and back to sync) or >> rebooted? >> > > I have rebooted. > > Mark, I think your questions relate to the Mac OS app "HotSync" > rather than to the Palm OS app by the same name. Am I right? I > trashed the former long ago, believing it to be incompatible with TMS. > > Everything worked fine until recently, when I started using the new > Tungsten C. As I mentioned, the first sync went without a glitch. > Not even once, since then. > > Uh... all of a sudden it seems to be working! I wish I knew what > fixed the glitch, but I do appreciate the time you've taken with me. > -- > "Never express yourself more clearly than you are able to > think." [Niels Bohr] > Lorne Walton, Maple Ridge, BC, Canada > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives > can be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > From walton at telus.net Mon Oct 24 17:28:01 2005 From: walton at telus.net (Lorne Walton) Date: Mon Oct 24 20:40:57 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Can't connect In-Reply-To: <435D7113.10403@valleyofspeed.com> References: <435CFBD0.5090504@valleyofspeed.com> <435D5023.4000309@valleyofspeed.com> <435D7113.10403@valleyofspeed.com> Message-ID: >My experience with all "hotsync" operations from Palm to Mac is that >they have never been reliable. Every generation of Palm OS/Device I >have had the misfortune to deal with has been this way. I can't >fathom why they never seem to be able to get this reliable. I am >unsure who is to blame either because Missing Syn and Palm both >appear equally bad. How many years have they had to get this >working? Of course this probably started all over again when Macs >became UNIX based. My experience mirrors yours, regarding the flakiness of the Hotsync process. I usually have blamed it on the tenuous contact between the Palm and the cradle, because it often seemed that if I could sit it just exactly right, the sync would be successful. Does anyone do network syncing? I've never been successful. I type in my Mac's IP address; as Hotsync tries to access the Mac, the message "Connecting with the desktop using Windows RAS" displays (does that mean not available Mac-side?) Finally, "Error: PPP Timeout (0x1231)" -- "Never express yourself more clearly than you are able to think." [Niels Bohr] Lorne Walton, Maple Ridge, BC, Canada From walton at telus.net Mon Oct 24 21:16:38 2005 From: walton at telus.net (Lorne Walton) Date: Mon Oct 24 21:20:41 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Can't connect In-Reply-To: <6C806AE3-01DA-4D11-BACA-2FD4483C0530@PatriciaWarwick.com> References: <435CFBD0.5090504@valleyofspeed.com> <435D5023.4000309@valleyofspeed.com> <6C806AE3-01DA-4D11-BACA-2FD4483C0530@PatriciaWarwick.com> Message-ID: >Have you checked out iSync preferences? You should have iSync check >the HotSync conduit. Go into iSync. Click on Enable Palm OS Syncing >in the Devices menu and see if you get any error messages. Patricia, I'm reluctant to change any settings now that I've managed to sync again. I'll keep your advice at hand in case of future issues. Thanks. -- "Never express yourself more clearly than you are able to think." [Niels Bohr] Lorne Walton, Maple Ridge, BC, Canada From Patricia at PatriciaWarwick.com Tue Oct 25 06:29:05 2005 From: Patricia at PatriciaWarwick.com (Patricia Warwick) Date: Tue Oct 25 06:29:08 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Reminder to synchronize ... window is blocking synchronization - OS X Message-ID: I configured Missing Sync to remind me if I haven't synchronized in 3 days. But what happens is that the reminder dialog comes up in the background. This window reminds me to synchronize but since it is in the background, I don't see it. Then when I do attempt to synchronize nothing happens. Eventually I realize that this message is blocking Missing Sync from responding. But it is nearly impossible to see the window without minimizing or shutting all other windows ... very frustrating. Has anyone a solution to this problem? From adamek at mac.com Tue Oct 25 06:43:42 2005 From: adamek at mac.com (Adam Ek) Date: Tue Oct 25 06:43:47 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Reminder to synchronize ... window is blocking synchronization - OS X In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8947894.1130247822380.JavaMail.adamek@mac.com> On Tuesday, October 25, 2005, at 09:35AM, Patricia Warwick wrote: >I configured Missing Sync to remind me if I haven't synchronized in 3 >days. But what happens is that the reminder dialog comes up in the >background. This window reminds me to synchronize but since it is in >the background, I don't see it. Then when I do attempt to synchronize >nothing happens. Eventually I realize that this message is blocking >Missing Sync from responding. But it is nearly impossible to see the >window without minimizing or shutting all other windows ... very >frustrating. Has anyone a solution to this problem? If you are using Panther or Tiger, when you have Chronosync active hit to make all of the application windows visible. Adam Ek adamek@mac.com From Patricia at PatriciaWarwick.com Tue Oct 25 08:36:56 2005 From: Patricia at PatriciaWarwick.com (Patricia Warwick) Date: Tue Oct 25 08:37:06 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Reminder to synchronize ... window is blocking synchronization - OS X In-Reply-To: <8947894.1130247822380.JavaMail.adamek@mac.com> References: <8947894.1130247822380.JavaMail.adamek@mac.com> Message-ID: That may work but it isn't an elegant solution ... I still have to realize that there is this hidden window. The problem seems to be Missing Sync's ... shouldn't it be bringing that window to the front? I tried using the Window menu and it wasn't there ... so it requires guessing ... "ah ha ... I can't sync again ... perhaps that darn message is causing problems." IMO, I don't think it should block syncing. I guess I'll have to report a bug. And on a related subject. Why do I always have to click at least twice on the Missing Sync icon in the dock to get it to start and stay active? On Oct 25, 2005, at 09:43 AM, Adam Ek wrote: >> I configured Missing Sync to remind me if I haven't synchronized in 3 >> days. But what happens is that the reminder dialog comes up in the >> background. This window reminds me to synchronize but since it is in >> the background, I don't see it. Then when I do attempt to synchronize >> nothing happens. Eventually I realize that this message is blocking >> Missing Sync from responding. But it is nearly impossible to see the >> window without minimizing or shutting all other windows ... very >> frustrating. Has anyone a solution to this problem? >> > > If you are using Panther or Tiger, when you have Chronosync active > hit to make all of the application windows visible. > From list at valleyofspeed.com Tue Oct 25 08:50:14 2005 From: list at valleyofspeed.com (Mark Moorcroft) Date: Tue Oct 25 08:50:24 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Reminder to synchronize ... window is blocking synchronization - OS X In-Reply-To: References: <8947894.1130247822380.JavaMail.adamek@mac.com> Message-ID: <435E5436.3000802@valleyofspeed.com> Patricia Warwick wrote: > That may work but it isn't an elegant solution ... I still have to > realize that there is this hidden window. The problem seems to be > Missing Sync's ... shouldn't it be bringing that window to the front? I > tried using the Window menu and it wasn't there ... so it requires > guessing ... "ah ha ... I can't sync again ... perhaps that darn message > is causing problems." IMO, I don't think it should block syncing. I > guess I'll have to report a bug. Yup, I would agree that's a bug > > And on a related subject. Why do I always have to click at least twice > on the Missing Sync icon in the dock to get it to start and stay active? I would like to know that myself though I would not say it "always" happens. From berkowit at silcom.com Tue Oct 25 09:19:00 2005 From: berkowit at silcom.com (Paul Berkowitz) Date: Tue Oct 25 09:19:10 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Contact details In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 10/24/05 2:48 PM, "Clive Williamson" wrote: > I'm new to Palms, so any help would be appreciated with a syncing problem. > > I'm using the latest version of Missing Sync for Palm (4.0.6) and the latest > version of Entourage (11.2.1). My diary seems to sync correctly, but while I > have a full list of contacts, many of the addresses and birthdays are simply > missing from the Palm. It may be something to do with only being able to > have one address per contact (how am I supposed to get round this?), but I'm > rather foxed at the moment. There's no way round it for now. Until fairly recently, the Palm OS itself did not allow for more than one street address, nor birthdays. Therefore when Microsoft developed the Entourage Conduit there was no way to sync them so there's no provision for it. On almost the same day as Entourage 2004 and its conduit came out, Palm came out with these new fields in their OS 5 on some newer Palms and have gradually included them in all models. They had even notified the Windows Outlook sector of Microsoft previously, and provided (or probably outsourced to some 3rd-party) conduits for Outlook Windows that incorporated those. But no one ever told the Mac Business Unit in time - and they're the ones who make the Entourage conduit, not some 3rd party. Not Missing Sync (might be a good idea if they did). So you have to wait for Microsoft to upgrade their conduit. In the meantime, Microsoft (MacBU) already announced that they plan to make Entourage work with Tiger SyncServices. I'm really pretty sure that they'll include the new fields when they do. But then it turned out there was a bug in Tiger, and still there in OS 10.4.1 and 10.4.2 that prevented them from doing this in their recent SP 2 upgrade. Who knows - maybe 10.4.3 will finally let Microsoft proceed with Entourage and SyncServices, and testing. (This will take a while.) Quite how SyncServices (which should then work immediately to allow synching all compatible fields between Entourage and Apple's Address Book and iCal) will then work with alms is another matter. I can't imagine that Microsoft will take charge of that end - that's for iSync. So either they'll also upgrade their Conduit at the same time, or they'll just leave it to iSync and 3rd parties. Here's maybe a place for Missing Sync to step in - provide a sync between the central SyncServices repository and devices like Palms. I expect they're thinking about that, or even working on it. Anyway, you'll have to wait for these developments. in the meantime you get only one street address, 5 phone numbers/email addresses total, and no birthday. In Entourage, you can click a button next to the birthday of every contact that "Adds to Calendar". The birthday will then sync form your Entourage Calendar to the Calendar on the Palm. You could also copy the birthday text to the contact Notes, and that would sync to the Palm too. That's as good as you're going to get. -- Paul Berkowitz From berkowit at silcom.com Tue Oct 25 09:25:02 2005 From: berkowit at silcom.com (Paul Berkowitz) Date: Tue Oct 25 09:27:12 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Reminder to synchronize ... window is blocking synchronization - OS X In-Reply-To: <435E5436.3000802@valleyofspeed.com> Message-ID: On 10/25/05 8:50 AM, "Mark Moorcroft" wrote: > > > Patricia Warwick wrote: >> That may work but it isn't an elegant solution ... I still have to >> realize that there is this hidden window. The problem seems to be >> Missing Sync's ... shouldn't it be bringing that window to the front? I >> tried using the Window menu and it wasn't there ... so it requires >> guessing ... "ah ha ... I can't sync again ... perhaps that darn message >> is causing problems." IMO, I don't think it should block syncing. I >> guess I'll have to report a bug. > > Yup, I would agree that's a bug Likewise. MissingSync says that they'll do something about it in a later release. In the meantime, I'd advise turning off the option to remind you. It's just a bloody nuisance. Someone advised me to use Expos? to expose all windows, but in fact it does _not_ expose that particular dialog, since it's not actually a window. I haven't tried "Chronosync" - I agree, too much trouble. > >> >> And on a related subject. Why do I always have to click at least twice >> on the Missing Sync icon in the dock to get it to start and stay active? > > I would like to know that myself though I would not say it "always" happens. I only have to click once, ever. -- Paul Berkowitz From list at valleyofspeed.com Tue Oct 25 10:14:07 2005 From: list at valleyofspeed.com (Mark Moorcroft) Date: Tue Oct 25 10:14:22 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Reminder to synchronize ... window is blocking synchronization - OS X In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <435E67DF.90800@valleyofspeed.com> That is interesting Paul, has anyone collected data on how common this is? Paul Berkowitz wrote: >> And on a related subject. Why do I always have to click at least twice >> on the Missing Sync icon in the dock to get it to start and stay active? > I would like to know that myself though I would not say it "always" happens. > > I only have to click once, ever. From sgruby at markspace.com Tue Oct 25 10:20:00 2005 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Tue Oct 25 10:20:10 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Reminder to synchronize ... window is blocking synchronization - OS X In-Reply-To: <435E67DF.90800@valleyofspeed.com> References: <435E67DF.90800@valleyofspeed.com> Message-ID: On Oct 25, 2005, at 10:14 AM, Mark Moorcroft wrote: > > That is interesting Paul, has anyone collected data on how common > this is? > > Paul Berkowitz wrote: > > >>> And on a related subject. Why do I always have to click at least >>> twice >>> on the Missing Sync icon in the dock to get it to start and stay >>> active? >>> > > >> I would like to know that myself though I would not say it >> "always" happens. >> I only have to click once, ever. >> > _______________________________________________ Please see: . This is most likely caused by a bug in Documents To Go. -- Scott Gruby Lead Engineer Mark/Space, Inc. Please visit for assistance with Mark/Space products. From donald.stidwell at gmail.com Tue Oct 25 12:04:17 2005 From: donald.stidwell at gmail.com (Donald Stidwell) Date: Tue Oct 25 12:04:26 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Reminder to synchronize ... window is blocking synchronization - OS X In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 10/25/05 1:20 PM, "Scott Gruby" wrote: > > On Oct 25, 2005, at 10:14 AM, Mark Moorcroft wrote: > >> >> That is interesting Paul, has anyone collected data on how common >> this is? >> >> Paul Berkowitz wrote: >> >> >>>> And on a related subject. Why do I always have to click at least >>>> twice >>>> on the Missing Sync icon in the dock to get it to start and stay >>>> active? >>>> >> >> >>> I would like to know that myself though I would not say it >>> "always" happens. >>> I only have to click once, ever. >>> >> _______________________________________________ > > Please see: x=&mod_id=2&id=2505>. This is most likely caused by a bug in > Documents To Go. > > -- > Scott Gruby > Lead Engineer > Mark/Space, Inc. > Well, I'll be dogged! I had just learned to live with it and didn't connect it to DTG. Since installing the patch, seems to work now. Thanks, Scott! From Patricia at PatriciaWarwick.com Tue Oct 25 12:26:04 2005 From: Patricia at PatriciaWarwick.com (Patricia Warwick) Date: Tue Oct 25 12:26:15 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Reminder to synchronize ... window is blocking synchronization - OS X In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >>>>> And on a related subject. Why do I always have to click at least >>>>> twice >>>>> on the Missing Sync icon in the dock to get it to start and stay >>>>> active? >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> I would like to know that myself though I would not say it >>>> "always" happens. >>>> I only have to click once, ever. >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >> >> Please see: > x=&mod_id=2&id=2505>. This is most likely caused by a bug in >> Documents To Go. > > Well, I'll be dogged! I had just learned to live with it and didn't > connect > it to DTG. Since installing the patch, seems to work now. Thanks, > Scott! Same for me ... I had learned to live with it but was frustrated. Thanks from me too. From list at valleyofspeed.com Tue Oct 25 14:09:36 2005 From: list at valleyofspeed.com (Mark Moorcroft) Date: Tue Oct 25 14:09:49 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] DTG patch In-Reply-To: References: <435E67DF.90800@valleyofspeed.com> Message-ID: <435E9F10.5090507@valleyofspeed.com> Thanks Scott, that does appear to improve the situation markedly. Scott Gruby wrote: > Please see: > . This > is most likely caused by a bug in Documents To Go. --MM From talkin73-sales at yahoo.com Tue Oct 25 16:27:13 2005 From: talkin73-sales at yahoo.com (talkin73-sales@yahoo.com) Date: Tue Oct 25 16:27:17 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Problem with Missing Sync app launching??? Message-ID: <1130282833.28029.246014570@webmail.messagingengine.com> I have an iMac with 10.4.2 and MS 4.0.6 installed. I am using a Treo 650 Sprint and had the default Palm software installed prior to MS. Since installing, MS will sync and work properly but... when I select it from the dock or double-click a pdb or prc file, the dock icon bounces several times, then stops. I have to repeat clicking on it or double clicking the pdb/prc files 2-3 times before the app will actually open up and launch. It's as though it's trying, but can't do it. MarkSpace support guys suggested uninstalling MS, uninstall Palm Desktop, reinstall Palm Desktop, then reinstall MS. I did this twice and no change at all in the behavior. I have tried trashing all preference files. No joy. Anyone else seen this or have a suggestion? -- JCM From list at valleyofspeed.com Tue Oct 25 17:09:32 2005 From: list at valleyofspeed.com (Mark Moorcroft) Date: Tue Oct 25 17:09:41 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Problem with Missing Sync app launching??? In-Reply-To: <1130282833.28029.246014570@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1130282833.28029.246014570@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <435EC93C.1090604@valleyofspeed.com> Read the prior message today from Scott Gruby if you have Documents-to-Go installed. It sounds like the bug a lot of us have been seeing. The fix described appears to resolve it. talkin73-sales@yahoo.com wrote: > I have an iMac with 10.4.2 and MS 4.0.6 installed. I am using a Treo > 650 Sprint and had the default Palm software installed prior to MS. > Since installing, MS will sync and work properly but... when I select it > from the dock or double-click a pdb or prc file, the dock icon bounces > several times, then stops. I have to repeat clicking on it or double > clicking the pdb/prc files 2-3 times before the app will actually open > up and launch. It's as though it's trying, but can't do it. MarkSpace > support guys suggested uninstalling MS, uninstall Palm Desktop, > reinstall Palm Desktop, then reinstall MS. I did this twice and no > change at all in the behavior. I have tried trashing all preference > files. No joy. Anyone else seen this or have a suggestion? From tj-lists at caffe.net Thu Oct 27 09:59:29 2005 From: tj-lists at caffe.net (tj-lists@caffe.net) Date: Thu Oct 27 09:59:37 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Can't connect via USB... Message-ID: Hello, Like several others on this list all of a sudden syncing via the USB cable just stopped working on my Treo 650 with a "cannot connect" message. Bluetooth for syncing works IF there is nothing to install (app, file). Missing Sync app on the Treo mounts the devic