From martin_p at euronet.nl Tue Mar 1 21:22:25 2005 From: martin_p at euronet.nl (martin pyper) Date: Tue Mar 1 12:23:19 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] rumors... In-Reply-To: <9e61a7917bd8a3f987f4db8c63e489d3@markspace.com> Message-ID: > I can't comment about unreleased versions of our products.... > We have said... if the current situation continues... > it is likely we would make something better happen." now, call me old-fashioned but that's about as close to a yes as we're likely to ever get... or am I just a hopeless optimist? From shannon-ross at uiowa.edu Tue Mar 1 14:23:27 2005 From: shannon-ross at uiowa.edu (Shannon Ross-Sheehy) Date: Tue Mar 1 12:23:32 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: rumors... In-Reply-To: <200503012001.j21K1LwG029394@penguin.markspace.com> Message-ID: Scott, Then as a customer of the very excellent Missing Sync, let this serve as my official notice of a BIG issue! :-) I also would like to say that I, for one, would be most willing to pay for a decent conduit. But let me be clear about what I mean by decent--I mean a conduit that: 1) works, and 2) well... works. Too much? Shannon > From: > Reply-To: > Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2005 12:01:21 -0800 > To: > Subject: missing-sync-palmos-talk Digest, Vol 22, Issue 1 > > Send missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list submissions to > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > missing-sync-palmos-talk-request@lists.markspace.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > missing-sync-palmos-talk-owner@lists.markspace.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of missing-sync-palmos-talk digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. rumors... (Shannon Ross-Sheehy) > 2. Re: rumors... (Scott Gruby) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 14:44:34 -0600 > From: Shannon Ross-Sheehy > Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] rumors... > To: > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Scott, > > I heard a rumor that MissingSync would be supporting the syncing of > Entourage categories in an upcoming release for palm OS... could this be > true?!?! Please, please let it be true!!! > > Shannon > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 14:31:20 -0800 > From: Scott Gruby > Subject: Re: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] rumors... > To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Palm OS\) Discussion List" > > Message-ID: <9e61a7917bd8a3f987f4db8c63e489d3@markspace.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > > > On Feb 28, 2005, at 12:44 PM, Shannon Ross-Sheehy wrote: > >> Scott, >> >> I heard a rumor that MissingSync would be supporting the syncing of >> Entourage categories in an upcoming release for palm OS... could this >> be >> true?!?! Please, please let it be true!!! >> >> > > I can't comment about unreleased versions of our products or what > features we have planned for the future. All I can say is that we do > listen to our customers and try to address the biggest issues they are > having. > > Brian Hall said just a few weeks ago: > > "We recognize that both the current Entourage and iSync conduits have, > shall > we say, various shortcomings. We have said (for example, at Macworld > Expo > recently) that if the current situation continues (ie, Apple/Microsoft > do > not update/improve their conduits) then it is likely we would make > something better happen." > > > > -- > Scott Gruby > Lead Engineer, Missing Sync for Palm OS > Mark/Space, Inc. > > > Please contact support@markspace.com for assistance with Mark/Space > products. > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > > > End of missing-sync-palmos-talk Digest, Vol 22, Issue 1 > ******************************************************* From bobwilliams at knology.net Tue Mar 1 15:47:48 2005 From: bobwilliams at knology.net (Robert Williams) Date: Tue Mar 1 13:47:56 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: rumors... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: AND that realizes you have more than one email/address and does not loose data like the current Entourage conduit does! On 3/1/05 2:23 PM, "Shannon Ross-Sheehy" wrote: > Scott, > > Then as a customer of the very excellent Missing Sync, let this serve as my > official notice of a BIG issue! :-) > > I also would like to say that I, for one, would be most willing to pay for a > decent conduit. But let me be clear about what I mean by decent--I mean a > conduit that: 1) works, and 2) well... works. Too much? > > Shannon > > > >> From: >> Reply-To: >> Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2005 12:01:21 -0800 >> To: >> Subject: missing-sync-palmos-talk Digest, Vol 22, Issue 1 >> >> Send missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list submissions to >> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> missing-sync-palmos-talk-request@lists.markspace.com >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> missing-sync-palmos-talk-owner@lists.markspace.com >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of missing-sync-palmos-talk digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. rumors... (Shannon Ross-Sheehy) >> 2. Re: rumors... (Scott Gruby) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 14:44:34 -0600 >> From: Shannon Ross-Sheehy >> Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] rumors... >> To: >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >> >> Scott, >> >> I heard a rumor that MissingSync would be supporting the syncing of >> Entourage categories in an upcoming release for palm OS... could this be >> true?!?! Please, please let it be true!!! >> >> Shannon >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 14:31:20 -0800 >> From: Scott Gruby >> Subject: Re: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] rumors... >> To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Palm OS\) Discussion List" >> >> Message-ID: <9e61a7917bd8a3f987f4db8c63e489d3@markspace.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed >> >> >> On Feb 28, 2005, at 12:44 PM, Shannon Ross-Sheehy wrote: >> >>> Scott, >>> >>> I heard a rumor that MissingSync would be supporting the syncing of >>> Entourage categories in an upcoming release for palm OS... could this >>> be >>> true?!?! Please, please let it be true!!! >>> >>> >> >> I can't comment about unreleased versions of our products or what >> features we have planned for the future. All I can say is that we do >> listen to our customers and try to address the biggest issues they are >> having. >> >> Brian Hall said just a few weeks ago: >> >> "We recognize that both the current Entourage and iSync conduits have, >> shall >> we say, various shortcomings. We have said (for example, at Macworld >> Expo >> recently) that if the current situation continues (ie, Apple/Microsoft >> do >> not update/improve their conduits) then it is likely we would make >> something better happen." >> >> >> >> -- >> Scott Gruby >> Lead Engineer, Missing Sync for Palm OS >> Mark/Space, Inc. >> >> >> Please contact support@markspace.com for assistance with Mark/Space >> products. >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk >> >> >> End of missing-sync-palmos-talk Digest, Vol 22, Issue 1 >> ******************************************************* > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > From ken at meancode.com Wed Mar 2 05:12:37 2005 From: ken at meancode.com (Ken at Meancode Media) Date: Wed Mar 2 02:12:44 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Where are the backups? Message-ID: Hello, I am quite new to Missing Sync. I bought it when I could no longer sync via USB with HotSync. Using BT is just too slow! I have a couple questions. The first is: Where are my backupa? Using HotSync these are stored in my Palm user folder in my personal Documents folder (I use Mac OS X). Where does Missing Sync put these files on my hard drive. When I do a search on my HD for say "ActNames.prc" I only find one copy, in my Palm Backups folder. I want to know so I can schedule Retrospect to back it up. Thanks. Ken --------------------------------------------------------- Ken Edwards http://www.meancode.com/ Personal Weblog - http://www.breakingwindows.com/ From eullman at markspace.com Wed Mar 2 06:47:01 2005 From: eullman at markspace.com (Eric Ullman) Date: Wed Mar 2 06:47:09 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Where are the backups? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Ken, and welcome to The Missing Sync. We use the same basic folder structure as HotSync Manager, which allows someone using the older stuff an easy upgrade path. You will find the various components in the same places. (If you aren't familiar with UNIX-style path names, the tilde character (~) represents your user home folder, /Users/[YourUserName]/. Conduits: /Library/Application Support/Palm HotSync/Conduits/ ~/Library/Application Support/Palm HotSync/Conduits/ (Conduits in your home folder will be available to you, but not to other users of your computer.) Backups: ~/Documents/Palm/Users/[YourHandheldName]/Backups/ One thing that we do differently is archive deleted PRCs and PDBs from the handheld. When you delete a file from the handheld, The Missing Sync's Backup conduit moves the backup of that file into an Archive folder. The reason we do this is to provide perfect restores. When you restore a handheld with HotSync Manager, every file ever backed up from the handheld is restored, including old applications that you may have deleted months ago. In some cases, the restore does not complete before the handheld runs out of memory. When you use The Missing Sync to restore a handheld, it only restores the files that were present during the last backup, leaving you with a perfect clone of what you had before. The archive then allows you to manually restore something that you deleted in the past, perhaps without meaning to, even after you've performed additional backups since you deleted the file. Archives: ~/Documents/Palm/Users/[YourHandheldName]/Backups/Archive/ I hope this helps, and I hope that you enjoy using The Missing Sync! Best regards, Eric Ullman Mark/Space, Inc. On 3/2/05 2:12, "Ken at Meancode Media" wrote: > Hello, > > I am quite new to Missing Sync. I bought it when I could no longer sync via > USB with HotSync. Using BT is just too slow! > > I have a couple questions. > > The first is: Where are my backupa? Using HotSync these are stored in my > Palm user folder in my personal Documents folder (I use Mac OS X). > > Where does Missing Sync put these files on my hard drive. When I do a search > on my HD for say "ActNames.prc" I only find one copy, in my Palm Backups > folder. > > I want to know so I can schedule Retrospect to back it up. Thanks. > > Ken From miketall at mac.com Wed Mar 2 13:23:47 2005 From: miketall at mac.com (.Mac Mike) Date: Wed Mar 2 10:24:01 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Where are the backups? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Eric, On 3/2/05 9:47 AM, "Eric Ullman" wrote: > (Conduits in your home folder will be available to you, but not to other > users of your computer.) > > Backups: ~/Documents/Palm/Users/[YourHandheldName]/Backups/ Thanks for this info. I was curious about this as well, but never took the time to look in to it. Great info. Luckily I haven't had any major catastrophes where I have needed this. > One thing that we do differently is archive deleted PRCs and PDBs from the > handheld. When you delete a file from the handheld, The Missing Sync's > Backup conduit moves the backup of that file into an Archive folder. The > reason we do this is to provide perfect restores. > > When you restore a handheld with HotSync Manager, every file ever backed up > from the handheld is restored, including old applications that you may have > deleted months ago. In some cases, the restore does not complete before the > handheld runs out of memory. > > When you use The Missing Sync to restore a handheld, it only restores the > files that were present during the last backup, leaving you with a perfect > clone of what you had before. The archive then allows you to manually > restore something that you deleted in the past, perhaps without meaning to, > even after you've performed additional backups since you deleted the file. > > Archives: ~/Documents/Palm/Users/[YourHandheldName]/Backups/Archive/ This is awesome. I remember doing restores using my old HotSync data and everything I ever had got restored. It was a real pain in the ass. Even old program files I had purposely deleted months back were restored to my handheld device. I could never understand why Palm couldn't understand that simple little concept. Glad you guys understand. Another thing I noticed that was different between HotSync and Missing Sync on Mac OS X was the time to do a backup. I actually turned off the backup conduit on HotSync because it would take a long time to back everything up. With Missing Sync it seems to recognize what has changed and only does required backups. This will save me 3-10 minutes when compared to HotSync. Of course the 1st sync takes a little while, but that is expected. HotSync's backup on Windows worked great for me, but the Mac OS X version was ugly. Michael Tall Visual Caf? Inc. From wcbarnes at telus.net Wed Mar 2 12:35:38 2005 From: wcbarnes at telus.net (William Barnes) Date: Wed Mar 2 12:35:43 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Syncing Pocket Money to Tungsten C Message-ID: For 8 months I have been successfully syncing Pocket Money using Missing Sync and then importing the resulting Pocket Money.qif file into Quicken 2002. About 2 days ago the sync started giving me an empty Pocket Money.tdf file rather than a .qif file. I don't know what has caused this change and have checked prefs in Pocket Money and in Missing Sync and find no reference to .tdf files. Any help would be greatly appreciated. William From eullman at markspace.com Thu Mar 3 07:37:00 2005 From: eullman at markspace.com (Eric Ullman) Date: Thu Mar 3 07:37:04 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Missing Sync 4.0.4 Now Available Message-ID: Greetings, Mark/Space is pleased to announce the immediate availability of version 4.0.4 of The Missing Sync for Palm OS. This release fixes several issues, including failed multiple syncs with the Treo 650, file copying from the Treo 650 and Tungsten T5 that resulted in files which could not be read on the Mac and Bluetooth syncing that would timeout early. This release also improves conduit support for Tapwave Zodiac devices and fixes a flaw that prevented the FMSync conduit from functioning. Mark/Space recommends that all users of version 4.0 download and install this free update. The installer and complete release notes are available from . Thank you. Best regards, Eric -- Eric Ullman Director of Sales and Marketing Mark/Space, Inc. eullman@markspace.com From Scott at proserver.com Thu Mar 3 09:28:34 2005 From: Scott at proserver.com (Scott Simons) Date: Thu Mar 3 09:28:09 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] added categories Message-ID: <191b78f55a8dd590e7d4c9a3b2811ef2@proserver.com> for the upcoming baseball season I added two categories in my Now Up to Date calendar but when firing up MS i do not see those categories in the conduit any suggestions Scott From bruce_gerson at mac.com Thu Mar 3 09:38:40 2005 From: bruce_gerson at mac.com (Bruce Gerson) Date: Thu Mar 3 09:39:00 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Missing Sync 4.0.4 Now Available In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mar 3, 2005, at 7:37 AM, Eric Ullman wrote: > Mark/Space recommends that all users of version 4.0 download and > install > this free update. Why does each incremental update come as a new installer? Is there some reason that an updater can't be done like so many other applications/developers use? It's not the downloading that's an issue but the fact that a restart is required every time and I'm thinking that the file(s) added to the System folder, which require the restart, aren't modified every time there's a dot release. Bruce -- Bruce Gerson iChat/AIM: bgerson Skype: bruce_gerson From chrisridd at mac.com Thu Mar 3 18:21:56 2005 From: chrisridd at mac.com (Chris Ridd) Date: Thu Mar 3 10:22:08 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Missing Sync 4.0.4 Now Available In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 3/3/05 5:38 pm, Bruce Gerson wrote: > On Mar 3, 2005, at 7:37 AM, Eric Ullman wrote: > >> Mark/Space recommends that all users of version 4.0 download and >> install >> this free update. > > Why does each incremental update come as a new installer? Is there > some reason that an updater can't be done like so many other > applications/developers use? It's not the downloading that's an issue > but the fact that a restart is required every time and I'm thinking > that the file(s) added to the System folder, which require the restart, > aren't modified every time there's a dot release. If you watch Installer.app closely, you'll see that it says that it is patching existing files and the "Install" button is changed to "Upgrade". So it *is* an updater. If the kext didn't change (I haven't checked) then forcing a restart would be quite annoying. However I've a feeling that Installer packages can't change their mind about a restart being needed, so M/S might not have much of a choice here. (Unless they do something cunning like the first time the app is run it could check to see if the right kext is there and if not install the new one...) Cheers, Chris From rwread at mac.com Thu Mar 3 12:32:55 2005 From: rwread at mac.com (Russell W Read) Date: Thu Mar 3 10:32:04 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Documents To Go 7.003 crashing? Message-ID: <0a5cee8260c64f9eb16ebcfdfe9629ca@mac.com> In regards to an earlier thread on crashing with Documents to Go and Missing Sync: You don?t have to have any documents set up to sync to have Missing Sync crash while attempting to sync Documents to Go. It crashes whether there are documents queued up or not. Has anyone found any workaround or solution? Russell Read From kfreeman at markspace.com Thu Mar 3 11:22:34 2005 From: kfreeman at markspace.com (Ken Freeman) Date: Thu Mar 3 11:22:41 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Documents To Go 7.003 crashing? In-Reply-To: <0a5cee8260c64f9eb16ebcfdfe9629ca@mac.com> Message-ID: If you have steps to duplicate a problem synching with Documents To Go, please send the steps to support@markspace.com. Please include the type of device you are using. Also, enable just the Documents To Go conduit and turn on "logging" by hitting command-option-shift-d in the Missing Sync and check the box for "Turn on Logging" and "Log Packets." Try to sync and send the "missingsynclog.txt" file found in the user's Library/Logs/ folder. We have NOT been able to duplicate any problems synchronizing with Documents To Go 7.003. We just posted a Missing Sync 4.0.4 update at www.markspace.com/downloads.html. We spent time testing Documents To Go 7.003 with this release on multiple devices, saving files to both internal memory and expansion cards, editing files on both the Mac and handheld. Everything tested out just fine. Thanks! Ken Freeman On 3/3/05 10:32 AM, "Russell W Read" wrote: > In regards to an earlier thread on crashing with Documents to Go and > Missing Sync: > > You don?t have to have any documents set up to sync to have Missing > Sync crash while attempting to sync Documents to Go. It crashes whether > there are documents queued up or not. > > Has anyone found any workaround or solution? > > Russell Read > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk From kfreeman at markspace.com Thu Mar 3 11:51:54 2005 From: kfreeman at markspace.com (Ken Freeman) Date: Thu Mar 3 11:51:59 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Syncing Pocket Money to Tungsten C In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I suggest you check also with the makers of the Pocket Money conduit. They may have heard of this issue before. I'm not sure what .tdf files are? A visit to http://filext.com/detaillist.php?extdetail=tdf&goButton=Go reveals apps (if not all Windows apps) that use this file extension. Ken On 3/2/05 12:35 PM, "William Barnes" wrote: > For 8 months I have been successfully syncing Pocket Money using > Missing Sync and then importing the resulting Pocket Money.qif file > into Quicken 2002. About 2 days ago the sync started giving me an empty > Pocket Money.tdf file rather than a .qif file. I don't know what has > caused this change and have checked prefs in Pocket Money and in > Missing Sync and find no reference to .tdf files. Any help would be > greatly appreciated. > > William > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk From nmirza at mac.com Thu Mar 3 23:08:23 2005 From: nmirza at mac.com (Naveed Mirza) Date: Thu Mar 3 20:08:34 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Delete Palm Desktop? Message-ID: <31ee6a1b7fea453c1975a11b7bee7286@mac.com> I just purchased Missing Sync tonight, and so far it's great. One question though, can I delete the Palm Desktop folder now? I'm pretty much using iSync apps, so I don't think I need it. Also, let me apologize up front if this has already been asked. Naveed Mirza From dneil at markspace.com Thu Mar 3 23:15:46 2005 From: dneil at markspace.com (David Neil) Date: Thu Mar 3 20:16:08 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Delete Palm Desktop? In-Reply-To: <31ee6a1b7fea453c1975a11b7bee7286@mac.com> Message-ID: Naveed, What Palm Desktop folder are you talking about? If you are talking about /Users//Documents/Palm/Users// then, no. That is where your data is stored for a number of things, including backups. In fact, if you delete that folder, Missing Sync won't recognize that you have a device to which it will sync. If you use iCal and Address Book then you no longer need Palm Desktop at all. You can uninstall it. Dave Neil Mark/Space, Inc. On 3/3/05 11:08 PM, "Naveed Mirza" wrote: > I just purchased Missing Sync tonight, and so far it's great. One > question though, can I delete the Palm Desktop folder now? I'm pretty > much using iSync apps, so I don't think I need it. Also, let me > apologize up front if this has already been asked. > > Naveed Mirza > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk From brian at briandunning.com Thu Mar 3 20:57:14 2005 From: brian at briandunning.com (Brian Dunning) Date: Thu Mar 3 20:57:17 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Palm events don't make it into iCal Message-ID: Syncing a Samsung i500 with iSync - calendar events that I create on the Palm never make it into iCal. In fact, they disappear completely when I sync. Suggestions? :) - Brian From lzimring at earthlink.net Thu Mar 3 23:34:13 2005 From: lzimring at earthlink.net (Linda Zimring) Date: Thu Mar 3 23:34:46 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Syncing doesn't work...frustration grows... In-Reply-To: <200503032000.j23K0WwH001506@penguin.markspace.com> References: <200503032000.j23K0WwH001506@penguin.markspace.com> Message-ID: <0c2c9e1a3aad87abbe4b56bc1bb1bd93@earthlink.net> I have had nothing but trouble trying to hotsync my Sony Clie TJ35 to any of my 3 Mac G4's. I have reinstalled the palm software several times as well as the Missing Sync. Today, someone told me that if you try to sync it to more than one computer, it won't work because it knows which computer you set it to. If I had one reliable connection, I wouldn't need to try all three. Can anyone suggest what I can do to make this work? It has worked on and off, here and there, but with no consistency. I would appreciate any help anyone can provide! Thanks in advance... Linda From collierof1957 at mac.com Fri Mar 4 07:13:04 2005 From: collierof1957 at mac.com (Tim Collier) Date: Fri Mar 4 04:14:10 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Missing Sync 4.0.4 Now Available In-Reply-To: Message-ID: The latest update is awesome. I can now successfully sync using Wi-Fi with my Tungsten C. It didn't work before. I'm pleased. Tim On 3/3/05 12:38 PM, "Bruce Gerson" wrote: > On Mar 3, 2005, at 7:37 AM, Eric Ullman wrote: > >> Mark/Space recommends that all users of version 4.0 download and >> install >> this free update. > > Why does each incremental update come as a new installer? Is there > some reason that an updater can't be done like so many other > applications/developers use? It's not the downloading that's an issue > but the fact that a restart is required every time and I'm thinking > that the file(s) added to the System folder, which require the restart, > aren't modified every time there's a dot release. > > Bruce > > -- > Bruce Gerson > iChat/AIM: bgerson Skype: bruce_gerson > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk -- Exterminate all rational thought. From collierof1957 at mac.com Fri Mar 4 08:06:09 2005 From: collierof1957 at mac.com (Tim Collier) Date: Fri Mar 4 05:07:07 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Syncing doesn't work...frustration grows... In-Reply-To: <0c2c9e1a3aad87abbe4b56bc1bb1bd93@earthlink.net> Message-ID: I sync my Palm Tungsten C to my iBook and my iMac.....never one problem. I only use Missing Sync. My last PDA was a Sony Clie and it was nothing but problem after problem. You might think about that. Tim On 3/4/05 2:34 AM, "Linda Zimring" wrote: > I have had nothing but trouble trying to hotsync my Sony Clie TJ35 to > any of my 3 Mac G4's. I have reinstalled the palm software several > times as well as the Missing Sync. > Today, someone told me that if you try to sync it to more than one > computer, it won't work because it knows which computer you set it to. > If I had one reliable connection, I wouldn't need to try all three. Can > anyone suggest what I can do to make this work? > It has worked on and off, here and there, but with no consistency. I > would appreciate any help anyone can provide! Thanks in advance... > Linda > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk -- Exterminate all rational thought. From treetech at tree-tech.com Fri Mar 4 14:36:35 2005 From: treetech at tree-tech.com (Tree Tech) Date: Fri Mar 4 11:37:06 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Missing Sync 4.0.4 Now Available In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20050304193635.12744@mail.tree-tech.com> Finally have FMSync back. No more converting and importing files. Thanks! -- Russ Carlson Bear, DE USA * On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 07:13:04 -0500 Tim Collier wrote: >The latest update is awesome. I can now successfully sync using Wi-Fi with >my Tungsten C. It didn't work before. I'm pleased. > >Tim From henryseiden at bellsouth.net Fri Mar 4 15:26:32 2005 From: henryseiden at bellsouth.net (Henry Seiden) Date: Fri Mar 4 12:26:41 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Entourage & Missing Sync Message-ID: Hi All, Am I Missing something (pun intended) or is Entourage not requiring Missing Sync or HotSync Manager??? I installed Entourage and it promptly ditched HotSync Manager (can't even find it from the Find command in OS). Obviously nothing will sync now. How do I get around this? Henry -- From henryseiden at bellsouth.net Fri Mar 4 15:28:00 2005 From: henryseiden at bellsouth.net (Henry Seiden) Date: Fri Mar 4 12:28:00 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Missing Sync 4.0.4 Now Available In-Reply-To: <20050304193635.12744@mail.tree-tech.com> Message-ID: Could this be my problem as well with Entourage not syncing with MS??? See my thread on Entourage & Missing Sync. Henry On 3/4/05 2:36 PM, "Tree Tech" wrote: > Finally have FMSync back. No more converting and importing files. > > Thanks! > -- > Russ Carlson > Bear, DE USA > > > * > On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 07:13:04 -0500 Tim Collier wrote: > >> The latest update is awesome. I can now successfully sync using Wi-Fi with >> my Tungsten C. It didn't work before. I'm pleased. >> >> Tim > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk -- From henryseiden at bellsouth.net Fri Mar 4 15:47:47 2005 From: henryseiden at bellsouth.net (Henry Seiden) Date: Fri Mar 4 12:47:47 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Syncing doesn't work...frustration grows... In-Reply-To: <0c2c9e1a3aad87abbe4b56bc1bb1bd93@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Linda, Sadly, I must agree with you, although I don't know how much blame you can put on the Cli?. I have one too- the PEG-NX80U. Is that older or newer than yours? Rather blame should fall more to Palm which seemingly goes the way of toilet flushing- down the tubes. 1. They have never supported the MAC OS well, even in OS9 it was less than perfect. They chose to use an antiquated Desktop program, perhaps you heard of Claris' Addressbook and Mail- long out of circulation and poorly updated by Palm. 2. OS X was even worse, hence Missing Sync. 3. Missing Sync only does the "handshaking" to other conduits and desktop software, it knows not at all about Desktop, or database issues, just the database sync part. 4. It's been true in my case also that sync to more than one desktop from the handheld causes all sorts of problems between the desktops and their data. Why? I came to find out that there are several reasons- probably more that I don't know yet. Biggest of these (to make a long story shorter) is that the database fields are more in number on the desktop than on the handheld (for reasons only Palm can know- poor design comes to mind). See the items above for some history on this. 5. I am trying (gulp!) Microsoft Entourage2004 and sharing the desktop data independently of the handheld, ie., not using Hotsync (the Palm program) between the desktops. I intend to sync only to my work computer from Palm and Share the home computer via a network connection. Hoping that a "shared" list of data will appear as if by magic on the Handheld. So far, no joy though. 6. There are tools to do the above by Paul Berkowitz. They are Applescripts. If it works for me, I'll let the list know. Otherwise feel free to contact me off list. Good luck, Henry On 3/4/05 2:34 AM, "Linda Zimring" wrote: > I have had nothing but trouble trying to hotsync my Sony Clie TJ35 to > any of my 3 Mac G4's. I have reinstalled the palm software several > times as well as the Missing Sync. > Today, someone told me that if you try to sync it to more than one > computer, it won't work because it knows which computer you set it to. > If I had one reliable connection, I wouldn't need to try all three. Can > anyone suggest what I can do to make this work? > It has worked on and off, here and there, but with no consistency. I > would appreciate any help anyone can provide! Thanks in advance... > Linda > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk -- From jadestorm at nc.rr.com Fri Mar 4 17:47:33 2005 From: jadestorm at nc.rr.com (Daniel Henninger) Date: Fri Mar 4 14:47:37 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Missing Sync for PalmOS -and- PocketPC? Message-ID: <53164.10.0.0.9.1109976453.squirrel@www.vorpalcloud.org> Hi folk, Ideally, I'd like to be able to try a demo of the missing sync for pocketpc to see how this goes, but I don't see a demo, so... does anyone know for certain that nothing bizarre happens if you have the Missing Sync for both PalmOS and PocketPC installed? Sorry to ask this on the palm list, but it sorta applies. =) Daniel -- "The most addictive drug in the world is music." - The Lost Boyz From mmurray at maths.adelaide.edu.au Sat Mar 5 09:50:51 2005 From: mmurray at maths.adelaide.edu.au (Michael Murray) Date: Fri Mar 4 15:21:10 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Personal Organiser In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Does anyone have any updates on what is happening to Personal Organiser ? I have been using Palm Desktop (yuck) while waiting to see when PO gets at least its hot sync updated. Thanks - Michael From brad at stop.mail-abuse.org Sat Mar 5 02:00:04 2005 From: brad at stop.mail-abuse.org (Brad Knowles) Date: Fri Mar 4 17:12:42 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Syncing doesn't work...frustration grows... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 3:47 PM -0500 2005-03-04, Henry Seiden wrote: > 1. They have never supported the MAC OS well, even in OS9 it was less than > perfect. They chose to use an antiquated Desktop program, perhaps you heard > of Claris' Addressbook and Mail- long out of circulation and poorly updated > by Palm. The blame should go to Sony. Whatever support Palm has had for the Mac, Sony didn't even provide that much. They exclusively supported the PC, and you were screwed if you had anything else. Blame Palm for poor Mac support in general, yes. But blame Sony for *no* Mac support at all on the Cli? line. -- Brad Knowles, "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See for more info. From henryseiden at bellsouth.net Fri Mar 4 21:01:08 2005 From: henryseiden at bellsouth.net (Henry Seiden) Date: Fri Mar 4 18:01:33 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Missing Sync & Entourage Message-ID: I had to completely re-install Palm Desktop, Missing Sync before Entourage Sync would work. Apparently it is normal for HotSync to be eliminated by Missing Sync. But something happened to affect the sync within Missing Sync. Perhaps one of the "upgrades"? I recently upgraded to the latest version of Missing Sync 4. That seems to have fixed the problem in addition to the re-install. A lot of wasted time... Henry -- From henryseiden at bellsouth.net Fri Mar 4 21:07:45 2005 From: henryseiden at bellsouth.net (Henry Seiden) Date: Fri Mar 4 18:07:48 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Syncing doesn't work...frustration grows... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: The Cli? isn't the only Sony product featuring no MAC (sync) support. There are others. Sony is quite unfriendly to MAC except on very few, limited products (like AIT, and computer monitors for example, where it's really a third party- the AIT consortium in one case- and MAC OS that trump them). As I said, hence Missing Sync. What else is there for Cli? to support on MAC anyway? It's Palm OS... Everything else is third party- even the Cli?'s camera support. On 3/4/05 8:00 PM, "Brad Knowles" wrote: > > The blame should go to Sony. Whatever support Palm has had for > the Mac, Sony didn't even provide that much. They exclusively > supported the PC, and you were screwed if you had anything else. > Blame Palm for poor Mac support in general, yes. But blame Sony for > *no* Mac support at all on the Cli? line. -- From walter at natural-innovations.com Fri Mar 4 19:26:05 2005 From: walter at natural-innovations.com (Walter Ian Kaye) Date: Fri Mar 4 19:26:16 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Syncing doesn't work...frustration grows... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 09:07p -0500 03/04/2005, Henry Seiden didst inscribe upon an electronic papyrus: >The Cli? isn't the only Sony product featuring no MAC (sync) support. There >are others. > >Sony is quite unfriendly to MAC No need to shout. ("Mac" is not an acronym....) It's probably because Sony produces PCs, and if they supported the Mac equally, people might have less reason to buy VAIOs. I bet if Sony stopped making PCs, or began manufacturing Macs, that they'd be more supportive of the Mac. It's the ol' conflict-of-interest thing. In any case, my Sony Cli? T615c running PalmOS 4.1 has always synced perfectly on Jaguar running on my TiBook, both with Palm Desktop 4.0's HotSync and later with Missing Sync 3.0 and 4.0. But I only sync to one machine. Umm... what is the purpose of syncing to multiple machines? I'm [w]racking my brain and cannot think of a reason. -boo who does all his data entry on the handheld (love Graffiti 1.0) From henryseiden at bellsouth.net Sat Mar 5 07:37:09 2005 From: henryseiden at bellsouth.net (Henry Seiden) Date: Sat Mar 5 04:37:53 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Syncing doesn't work...frustration grows... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: What's your solution to this, for instance: you work at home and at an office on two different desktop computers that don't (easily) connect together. You have data (contacts, schedules, etc.) that is common to both and that you want to keep the entire set of data on your PDA as well. Wouldn't you want to simply synchronize that data between the PDA and the two desktops so that each machine has one common set of updated information? This shouldn't be too unfamiliar. Possible solutions and the specific issues have been discussed here before. A more elegant solution to the dilemma is provided by M$ Entourage, plus you can you choose to sync a subset of your entire contact, or address and task data using Projects in Entourage and non-networked machines via a '.mac' account. However getting the sync even to one machine with Entourage seems unusually challenging with Missing Sync. On 3/4/05 10:26 PM, "Walter Ian Kaye" wrote: > Umm... what is the purpose of syncing to multiple machines? > I'm [w]racking my brain and cannot think of a reason. -- From brad at stop.mail-abuse.org Sat Mar 5 13:32:18 2005 From: brad at stop.mail-abuse.org (Brad Knowles) Date: Sat Mar 5 04:58:01 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Syncing doesn't work...frustration grows... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 7:26 PM -0800 2005-03-04, Walter Ian Kaye wrote: > It's probably because Sony produces PCs, and if they supported the > Mac equally, people might have less reason to buy VAIOs. I bet if Sony > stopped making PCs, or began manufacturing Macs, that they'd be more > supportive of the Mac. It's the ol' conflict-of-interest thing. Conflict of interest is something that Sony specializes in. They have a lot of different units that compete with each other, and this causes no end of problems for Sony as a whole. Witness the fight between the Cli? line and Sony Ericsson. I am convinced that if they supported the Mac better, this would require them to make certain architectural changes in their products that would also make their PC clients happier. -- Brad Knowles, "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See for more info. From collierof1957 at mac.com Sat Mar 5 08:21:03 2005 From: collierof1957 at mac.com (Tim Collier) Date: Sat Mar 5 05:21:11 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Syncing doesn't work...frustration grows... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Amen to that. My last Clie was 'OK' all by itself, it did everything it was supposed to do but God forbid you should try to sync it....even just using the Palm Desktop.....it worked sometimes and other times it just refused. That's why I went to Palm and bought a Tungsten C. No regrets since them. Missing Sync works PERFECTLY! Tim On 3/4/05 8:00 PM, "Brad Knowles" wrote: > At 3:47 PM -0500 2005-03-04, Henry Seiden wrote: > >> 1. They have never supported the MAC OS well, even in OS9 it was less than >> perfect. They chose to use an antiquated Desktop program, perhaps you heard >> of Claris' Addressbook and Mail- long out of circulation and poorly updated >> by Palm. > > The blame should go to Sony. Whatever support Palm has had for > the Mac, Sony didn't even provide that much. They exclusively > supported the PC, and you were screwed if you had anything else. > Blame Palm for poor Mac support in general, yes. But blame Sony for > *no* Mac support at all on the Cli? line. -- Exterminate all rational thought. From collierof1957 at mac.com Sat Mar 5 09:04:07 2005 From: collierof1957 at mac.com (Tim Collier) Date: Sat Mar 5 06:04:10 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Syncing doesn't work...frustration grows... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I sync to 2 Macs because I use both. Some of the information on one is not on the other. Syncing to both puts everything from both on the one PDA. That's the simple answer. Tim On 3/4/05 10:26 PM, "Walter Ian Kaye" wrote: > At 09:07p -0500 03/04/2005, Henry Seiden didst inscribe upon an > electronic papyrus: > >> The Cli? isn't the only Sony product featuring no MAC (sync) support. There >> are others. >> >> Sony is quite unfriendly to MAC > > No need to shout. ("Mac" is not an acronym....) > > It's probably because Sony produces PCs, and if they supported the > Mac equally, people might have less reason to buy VAIOs. I bet if > Sony stopped making PCs, or began manufacturing Macs, that they'd be > more supportive of the Mac. It's the ol' conflict-of-interest thing. > > In any case, my Sony Cli? T615c running PalmOS 4.1 has always synced > perfectly on Jaguar running on my TiBook, both with Palm Desktop > 4.0's HotSync and later with Missing Sync 3.0 and 4.0. > But I only sync to one machine. > > Umm... what is the purpose of syncing to multiple machines? > I'm [w]racking my brain and cannot think of a reason. > > > -boo > who does all his data entry on the handheld (love Graffiti 1.0) > > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk -- Exterminate all rational thought. From berkowit at silcom.com Sat Mar 5 07:32:52 2005 From: berkowit at silcom.com (Paul Berkowitz) Date: Sat Mar 5 07:33:02 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Syncing doesn't work...frustration grows... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I've been using a Sony Cli? PEG-SJ33 for several years syncing to Entourage without any problem. Until recently I synced using a special early version of Palm HotSync 4 which worked (it had to have a particular version of Conduit Manager), and then I switched to MissingSync and it also works, with no problems. First Entourage X, then Entourage 2004. In your next message you say you sync to two Macs. That's why you have problems. it's nothing to do with Cli?. The same would happen with any Palm. Nor does it have anything much to do with which PIM you use - Entourage or Palm Desktop or Address Book/iCal. The files which keep track of which device - Palm or computer - has the most recently updated version will get very confused if you sync to more than one computer. If at least one of your syncs is of the "Handheld Overwrites Computer" or "Computer Overwrites Handheld" variety, then you can probably get away with it because you're not depending on the sync engine or sync files to keep track. But if the sync operations from both computers to the handheld are both "Synchronize" there will always be problems. -- Paul Berkowitz > From: Tim Collier > Reply-To: "The Missing Sync (Mac/Palm OS) Discussion List" > > Date: Sat, 05 Mar 2005 08:21:03 -0500 > To: "The Missing Sync (Mac/Palm OS) Discussion List" > > Subject: Re: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Syncing doesn't work...frustration > grows... > > Amen to that. My last Clie was 'OK' all by itself, it did everything it was > supposed to do but God forbid you should try to sync it....even just using > the Palm Desktop.....it worked sometimes and other times it just refused. > That's why I went to Palm and bought a Tungsten C. No regrets since them. > Missing Sync works PERFECTLY! > > Tim > > > On 3/4/05 8:00 PM, "Brad Knowles" wrote: > >> At 3:47 PM -0500 2005-03-04, Henry Seiden wrote: >> >>> 1. They have never supported the MAC OS well, even in OS9 it was less than >>> perfect. They chose to use an antiquated Desktop program, perhaps you heard >>> of Claris' Addressbook and Mail- long out of circulation and poorly updated >>> by Palm. >> >> The blame should go to Sony. Whatever support Palm has had for >> the Mac, Sony didn't even provide that much. They exclusively >> supported the PC, and you were screwed if you had anything else. >> Blame Palm for poor Mac support in general, yes. But blame Sony for >> *no* Mac support at all on the Cli? line. > > -- > Exterminate all rational thought. > > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > From lifelonglearner at mac.com Sat Mar 5 10:34:26 2005 From: lifelonglearner at mac.com (Jeffrey McPheeters) Date: Sat Mar 5 08:34:31 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Syncing doesn't work...frustration grows... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <988cbd0c8c701ea2f077c65d091ec53f@mac.com> I use my .mac account to keep multiple machines synced with same address book, calendars, and more. I sync my palm to only one of these, my laptop. That works fine for me and has for some time now. Jeffrey On Mar 5, 2005, at 6:37 AM, Henry Seiden wrote: > What's your solution to this, for instance: you work at home and at an > office on two different desktop computers that don't (easily) connect > together. You have data (contacts, schedules, etc.) that is common to > both > and that you want to keep the entire set of data on your PDA as well. > Wouldn't you want to simply synchronize that data between the PDA and > the > two desktops so that each machine has one common set of updated > information? > > This shouldn't be too unfamiliar. Possible solutions and the specific > issues > have been discussed here before. > > A more elegant solution to the dilemma is provided by M$ Entourage, > plus you > can you choose to sync a subset of your entire contact, or address and > task > data using Projects in Entourage and non-networked machines via a > '.mac' > account. However getting the sync even to one machine with Entourage > seems > unusually challenging with Missing Sync. > > > > On 3/4/05 10:26 PM, "Walter Ian Kaye" > wrote: > >> Umm... what is the purpose of syncing to multiple machines? >> I'm [w]racking my brain and cannot think of a reason. > > -- > > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk From rsaltzman at nyc.rr.com Sat Mar 5 11:50:06 2005 From: rsaltzman at nyc.rr.com (Richard Saltzman) Date: Sat Mar 5 08:50:10 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Zire 71 Sync Problem Message-ID: I'm attempting to sync my Zire 71 with iSync so I can remain with iCal and Address Book. I deleted all the Palm files, downloaded Missing Sync 4.0.4 and the iSync Palm Conduit. The 4 conduits (backup, install, iSync and TimeCopy) are in the Missing Sync window and the appropriate action for each was selected. On the "install" page Missing Sync.prc is highlighted as the file to install on the handheld. When I open iSync, the handheld shows up and all the appropriate boxes are checked (Contacts, calendars and sometimes force slow synchronization). I also deleted a folder called "501" from the Library but since nothing changed, I reinstalled it. The Palm will not sync. I'm connected to the USB port. (Tried both) The handheld says "The connection between your handheld computer and the desktop could not be established. Please check your setup and try again"). Help!! Richard From treetech at tree-tech.com Sat Mar 5 12:08:49 2005 From: treetech at tree-tech.com (Tree Tech) Date: Sat Mar 5 09:13:34 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Zire 71 Sync Problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20050305170850.24328@mail.tree-tech.com> When deleting the Palm files, did you remove the Palm folder in ~/ Documents or the Palm Conduits folder in ~/Library/Application Support? The Palm folder in ~/Documents contains the User files and is needed by MissingSync, as this is where the connection data and backup files are kept. Put this folder back if you removed it. Since you can see the conduits in MS, you probably still have the Palm Conduits folder in place. -- Russ Carlson Bear, DE USA * On Sat, 5 Mar 2005 11:50:06 -0500 Richard Saltzman wrote: >I'm attempting to sync my Zire 71 with iSync so I can remain with iCal >and Address Book. I deleted all the Palm files, downloaded Missing Sync >4.0.4 and the iSync Palm Conduit. The 4 conduits (backup, install, >iSync and TimeCopy) are in the Missing Sync window and the appropriate >action for each was selected. On the "install" page Missing Sync.prc is >highlighted as the file to install on the handheld. When I open iSync, >the handheld shows up and all the appropriate boxes are checked >(Contacts, calendars and sometimes force slow synchronization). I also >deleted a folder called "501" from the Library but since nothing >changed, I reinstalled it. >The Palm will not sync. I'm connected to the USB port. (Tried both) The >handheld says "The connection between your handheld computer and the >desktop could not be established. Please check your setup and try >again"). > >Help!! > From fatrime at hotmail.com Sat Mar 5 13:14:40 2005 From: fatrime at hotmail.com (witease) Date: Sat Mar 5 10:15:54 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] MacOsX(10.3.8) Extentions not loading Bug on boot... Message-ID: Hi all, i had previously been subscribed to this list due to the same trouble i had been dealing with. Once again, as of the most recent 4.x updates, i have 2 system extensions unable to load on a fresh boot: "IOMissingSyncMassStorage.kext" and "SonyCLIEMSDriver.kext" both located in "/System/Library/Extensions". I tried all the previous doses of recovery (such as removing all traces of Missing Sync and re-installing) but nothing seems to work. I was unable to resolve this issue myself and never learned the cause, but somehow it resolved in new versions. Luckily the only affect this has on Missing Sync is not critical. The IOMissingSyncMassStorage is using for expansion card mounting, so there fore i cannot mount on desktop nor iTunes and iPhoto integration. I cannot do much on my end since i've already tried everything i could to help resolve the issue, but i would love to help any test build or betas if needed... -dw From rsaltzman at nyc.rr.com Sat Mar 5 13:27:15 2005 From: rsaltzman at nyc.rr.com (Richard Saltzman) Date: Sat Mar 5 10:27:20 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Zire 71 Sync Problem In-Reply-To: <20050305170850.24328@mail.tree-tech.com> References: <20050305170850.24328@mail.tree-tech.com> Message-ID: <48a76f1a4c35947f9ddc7d22ddfa498e@nyc.rr.com> I looked in the Library/Application Support. The Palm Desktop folder is empty and the Palm HotSync folder has the Conduits(Apple, Bakup,Install,TimeCopy). The Palm Folder is my Documents. Under "Users", I have "Palm Users" which has nothing connected to it, and "rsaltzman" my handheld's name. There are many files and folders under "rsaltzman". I'm not too computer literate but I'm following the MS Manual to a "T". The Palm people are sending me another handheld to see if it has a problem. I don't know if it's meaningful, but I did have problems installing the Palm software at the beginning of this debacle. That convinced me to delete it and go to MS. Thanks for your help. Richard On Mar 5, 2005, at 12:08, Tree Tech wrote: When deleting the Palm files, did you remove the Palm folder in ~/ Documents or the Palm Conduits folder in ~/Library/Application Support? The Palm folder in ~/Documents contains the User files and is needed by MissingSync, as this is where the connection data and backup files are kept. Put this folder back if you removed it. Since you can see the conduits in MS, you probably still have the Palm Conduits folder in place. -- Russ Carlson Bear, DE USA * On Sat, 5 Mar 2005 11:50:06 -0500 Richard Saltzman wrote: > I'm attempting to sync my Zire 71 with iSync so I can remain with iCal > and Address Book. I deleted all the Palm files, downloaded Missing Sync > 4.0.4 and the iSync Palm Conduit. The 4 conduits (backup, install, > iSync and TimeCopy) are in the Missing Sync window and the appropriate > action for each was selected. On the "install" page Missing Sync.prc is > highlighted as the file to install on the handheld. When I open iSync, > the handheld shows up and all the appropriate boxes are checked > (Contacts, calendars and sometimes force slow synchronization). I also > deleted a folder called "501" from the Library but since nothing > changed, I reinstalled it. > The Palm will not sync. I'm connected to the USB port. (Tried both) The > handheld says "The connection between your handheld computer and the > desktop could not be established. Please check your setup and try > again"). > > Help!! > _______________________________________________ missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found at: http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk From walter at natural-innovations.com Sat Mar 5 15:16:36 2005 From: walter at natural-innovations.com (Walter Ian Kaye) Date: Sat Mar 5 15:16:45 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Syncing doesn't work...frustration grows... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 07:37a -0500 03/05/2005, Henry Seiden didst inscribe upon an electronic papyrus: >What's your solution to this, for instance: you work at home and at an >office on two different desktop computers that don't (easily) connect >together. You have data (contacts, schedules, etc.) that is common to both >and that you want to keep the entire set of data on your PDA as well. >Wouldn't you want to simply synchronize that data between the PDA and the >two desktops so that each machine has one common set of updated information? > >This shouldn't be too unfamiliar. Actually it's totally unfamiliar to me. IME there is very little in common between the two, little enough to simply enter by hand. I would not want all my personal contacts on the office machine (neither would my boss), and there are only a few office contacts I would ever need on the home machine or handheld. But perhaps it depends on what sort of business you're in. To my mind, if I had that much in common, I would simply use the same laptop for both rather than two separate desktop machines. Perhaps that's too black & white.... From lewisrr at earthlink.net Sat Mar 5 18:50:25 2005 From: lewisrr at earthlink.net (Lewis Rogers) Date: Sat Mar 5 15:50:51 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Stickybrain & Entourage notes Message-ID: Have stickybrain and keep receiving conflect on Entourage and markspace notes. How do I make Stickybrain the note application? Have changed to Stickybrain in sync cond. In missing sync palm. LR From collierof1957 at mac.com Sat Mar 5 20:01:50 2005 From: collierof1957 at mac.com (Tim Collier) Date: Sat Mar 5 17:02:28 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Syncing doesn't work...frustration grows... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Paul: You need to re-read my post. I NEVER stated that I was having ANY sync problems using 2 computers.......actually it's the opposite. I routinely sync my Tungsten C to my iBook and my iMac. It helps to keep everything the same on each computer and the Palm. I did state that I previously had a Clie which I synced to only one computer and it was very flakey. Don't have those problems now. Tim On 3/5/05 10:32 AM, "Paul Berkowitz" wrote: > I've been using a Sony Cli? PEG-SJ33 for several years syncing to Entourage > without any problem. Until recently I synced using a special early version > of Palm HotSync 4 which worked (it had to have a particular version of > Conduit Manager), and then I switched to MissingSync and it also works, with > no problems. First Entourage X, then Entourage 2004. > > In your next message you say you sync to two Macs. That's why you have > problems. it's nothing to do with Cli?. The same would happen with any Palm. > Nor does it have anything much to do with which PIM you use - Entourage or > Palm Desktop or Address Book/iCal. The files which keep track of which > device - Palm or computer - has the most recently updated version will get > very confused if you sync to more than one computer. If at least one of your > syncs is of the "Handheld Overwrites Computer" or "Computer Overwrites > Handheld" variety, then you can probably get away with it because you're not > depending on the sync engine or sync files to keep track. But if the sync > operations from both computers to the handheld are both "Synchronize" there > will always be problems. -- Exterminate all rational thought. From sgruby at markspace.com Sat Mar 5 18:21:47 2005 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Sat Mar 5 18:22:16 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Stickybrain & Entourage notes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <13d1301aea75e967e44e21d8e465ecd9@markspace.com> On Mar 5, 2005, at 3:50 PM, Lewis Rogers wrote: > Have stickybrain and keep receiving conflect on Entourage and markspace > notes. How do I make Stickybrain the note application? Have changed > to > Stickybrain in sync cond. In missing sync palm. > Please see this knowledge base article for information: -- Scott Gruby Lead Engineer, Missing Sync for Palm OS Mark/Space, Inc. Please contact support@markspace.com for assistance with Mark/Space products. From ucgajpd at ucl.ac.uk Sun Mar 6 18:00:37 2005 From: ucgajpd at ucl.ac.uk (Jason Davies) Date: Sun Mar 6 10:00:48 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Aeroplayer update problem Message-ID: i upgraded Aeroplayer as per the emails they send but discovered that the code is strictly not updatable (unless i pay). Now i have lost the old version of Aeroplayer. does anyone have a version that was released about 5 months ago? (5.1 seems to be about the right version) with the MP3 plugin? thanks. From luke at shrimper.org.uk Sun Mar 6 20:05:34 2005 From: luke at shrimper.org.uk (Luke Bosman) Date: Sun Mar 6 12:05:52 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Aeroplayer update problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <66ec30dcaf4c953c6758a3fee965bb40@shrimper.org.uk> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 6 Mar, 2005, at 18:00, Jason Davies wrote: > i upgraded Aeroplayer as per the emails they send but discovered that > the code is strictly not updatable (unless i pay). Now i have lost the > old version of Aeroplayer. does anyone have a version that was > released > about 5 months ago? (5.1 seems to be about the right version) with the > MP3 plugin? thanks. As released with MiSy? Yes. Let me know if you still want it. Luke -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCK2KSjEhpAsRMSJcRAsuiAJ9E6BF8xFq7tVIPy9UJ30lHGMj0iwCgyiEL OULcNoJLMbk22JkEPbZvC44= =AsZg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From ucgajpd at ucl.ac.uk Sun Mar 6 20:55:13 2005 From: ucgajpd at ucl.ac.uk (Jason Davies) Date: Sun Mar 6 15:11:43 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Aeroplayer update problem In-Reply-To: <66ec30dcaf4c953c6758a3fee965bb40@shrimper.org.uk> Message-ID: > >As released with MiSy? Yes. Let me know if you still want it. that's right! Let me clarify the relevance. I actually got te license late since a hitch meant I didn't get it at the time I got MS 2. Their licenses seem to allov for upgrades within a year (and I got my licens last August) so I cheerfully upgraded to 5.2 when they sent an 'update now' email. However 'point' releases are NOT covered by the license that came withMS. I didn't have a back up so had no way of reverting. I found 2.11.1 on their site but no other eearlier versions. So, be aware that your Aeroplayer licenses are not upgradable! you are welcome to pay them all over again, of course... From bobwilliams at knology.net Sun Mar 6 17:26:52 2005 From: bobwilliams at knology.net (Robert Williams) Date: Sun Mar 6 15:26:57 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Pocket Quicken Crash In-Reply-To: <6afb7ec9d14fb7acc17bb06473d1c7e4@markspace.com> Message-ID: Just wanted to follow this up.... (I have been on a extended business trip and just got home to try to fix this issue this weekend) It looks like the problem was the Haxies. I have reinstalled OS 10.3.8 and everything is working just fine now :-) -- Cheers, Bob On 2/27/05 10:33 PM, "Scott Gruby" wrote: > > On Feb 27, 2005, at 6:03 PM, Robert Williams wrote: > >> Every time I try to click on a conduit button for Pocket Quicken, MS >> will >> unexpectedly quit. >> >> I have tried repleacing the conduit, trashing the conduit prefs but >> nothing >> seems to work. >> >> Anyone have any ideas? >> >> > > The crash log is NOT for Pocket Quicken, it is for Web Confidential. > I'm not sure how it would come up when you clicked on Pocket Quicken, > but I'd remove it and see if the crash goes away. > > > > -- > Scott Gruby > Lead Engineer, Missing Sync for Palm OS > Mark/Space, Inc. > > > Please contact support@markspace.com for assistance with Mark/Space > products. > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > From bobwilliams at knology.net Sun Mar 6 17:40:26 2005 From: bobwilliams at knology.net (Robert Williams) Date: Sun Mar 6 15:40:31 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Syncing doesn't work...frustration grows... In-Reply-To: <988cbd0c8c701ea2f077c65d091ec53f@mac.com> Message-ID: That works OK ...unless you are like me and use a Mac at home and A PeeCee at work...then Syncing is essential. On 3/5/05 10:34 AM, "Jeffrey McPheeters" wrote: > I use my .mac account to keep multiple machines synced with same > address book, calendars, and more. I sync my palm to only one of these, > my laptop. That works fine for me and has for some time now. > > Jeffrey > On Mar 5, 2005, at 6:37 AM, Henry Seiden wrote: > >> What's your solution to this, for instance: you work at home and at an >> office on two different desktop computers that don't (easily) connect >> together. You have data (contacts, schedules, etc.) that is common to >> both >> and that you want to keep the entire set of data on your PDA as well. >> Wouldn't you want to simply synchronize that data between the PDA and >> the >> two desktops so that each machine has one common set of updated >> information? >> >> This shouldn't be too unfamiliar. Possible solutions and the specific >> issues >> have been discussed here before. >> >> A more elegant solution to the dilemma is provided by M$ Entourage, >> plus you >> can you choose to sync a subset of your entire contact, or address and >> task >> data using Projects in Entourage and non-networked machines via a >> '.mac' >> account. However getting the sync even to one machine with Entourage >> seems >> unusually challenging with Missing Sync. >> >> >> >> On 3/4/05 10:26 PM, "Walter Ian Kaye" >> wrote: >> >>> Umm... what is the purpose of syncing to multiple machines? >>> I'm [w]racking my brain and cannot think of a reason. >> >> -- >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can >> be found at: >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > From bobwilliams at knology.net Sun Mar 6 17:46:01 2005 From: bobwilliams at knology.net (Robert Williams) Date: Sun Mar 6 15:46:06 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Entourage Conduit Message-ID: Just wanted to resurface this topic... I sure would like MarkSpace to rework the Entourage Conduit to support EVERY field in the new Palm 5 PIM apps. THAT would even be worth paying for :-) -- Cheers, Bob From walter at natural-innovations.com Sun Mar 6 18:45:21 2005 From: walter at natural-innovations.com (Walter Ian Kaye) Date: Sun Mar 6 18:45:35 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Syncing doesn't work...frustration grows... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 05:40p -0600 03/06/2005, Robert Williams didst inscribe upon an electronic papyrus: >That works OK ...unless you are like me and use a Mac at home and A PeeCee >at work...then Syncing is essential. Well, Missing Sync was designed to sync your Mac with your Palm. If you need to sync your Mac with your PC, then you're kinda on your own. Maybe y'all who do that should form your own support group; I would start with Win-Mac.com and see if anyone there has had success syncing Windows apps with Mac apps. You might also consider getting 2 handhelds and just beaming records between your "home" handheld and your "work" handheld. Just a random thought. -brainstormin' boo >On 3/5/05 10:34 AM, "Jeffrey McPheeters" wrote: > > > I use my .mac account to keep multiple machines synced with same > > address book, calendars, and more. I sync my palm to only one of these, > > my laptop. That works fine for me and has for some time now. From m.griffith at mary.acu.edu.au Mon Mar 7 14:01:22 2005 From: m.griffith at mary.acu.edu.au (Michael Griffith) Date: Sun Mar 6 19:01:33 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Entourage Message-ID: Just wanted to resurface this topic... I sure would like MarkSpace to rework the Entourage Conduit to support EVERY field in the new Palm 5 PIM apps. THAT would even be worth paying for :-) -- Cheers, Bob I support that suggestion 500% (if such a percentage exists)... Cheers Michael Associate Professor Michael Griffith School of Arts and Sciences Australian Catholic University Limited ABN 15 050 192 660 PO Box 968, North Sydney 2059 Ph: +61 2 9701 4192 Fax: +61 2 9701 4263 Email: M.griffith@mary.acu.edu.au From ucgajpd at ucl.ac.uk Mon Mar 7 08:14:37 2005 From: ucgajpd at ucl.ac.uk (Jason Davies) Date: Mon Mar 7 00:14:53 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] avantgo 'update software' Message-ID: someone posted that avantgo was saying 'update your software' a while ago. I'm getting the same message even though I've updated - was there a fix? (is this in fat an avantgo issue rather than a MS issue?) I now have the Aeroplayer software, thanks for the response, much appreciated. From ucgajpd at ucl.ac.uk Mon Mar 7 08:25:20 2005 From: ucgajpd at ucl.ac.uk (Jason Davies) Date: Mon Mar 7 00:25:27 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] avantgo 'update software' In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >(is this in fat an avantgo issue rather than a MS issue?) in fact it is a conduit issue, as I can sync over BT dircetly, so the software is working with the avantgo server. From collierof1957 at mac.com Mon Mar 7 08:18:06 2005 From: collierof1957 at mac.com (Tim Collier) Date: Mon Mar 7 05:18:26 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Entourage In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Microsoft wrote it not Markspace. Go talk to them. Tim On 3/6/05 10:01 PM, "Michael Griffith" wrote: > > > Just wanted to resurface this topic... > > I sure would like MarkSpace to rework the Entourage Conduit to support EVERY > field in the new Palm 5 PIM apps. > > THAT would even be worth paying for :-) > -- > Cheers, > > Bob > > I support that suggestion 500% (if such a percentage exists)... Cheers > Michael > > Associate Professor Michael Griffith > School of Arts and Sciences > Australian Catholic University Limited > ABN 15 050 192 660 > PO Box 968, North Sydney 2059 > Ph: +61 2 9701 4192 > Fax: +61 2 9701 4263 > Email: M.griffith@mary.acu.edu.au > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk -- Exterminate all rational thought. From bobwilliams at knology.net Mon Mar 7 19:57:14 2005 From: bobwilliams at knology.net (Robert Williams) Date: Mon Mar 7 17:57:21 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Entourage In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Tim, You miss the point - there has been talk in the past about Mark|Space rewriting the Entourage Conduit so that it would actually sync correctly to a Palm 5 device :) THAT is what I was referring to. Bob On 3/7/05 7:18 AM, "Tim Collier" wrote: > Microsoft wrote it not Markspace. Go talk to them. > > Tim > > > On 3/6/05 10:01 PM, "Michael Griffith" wrote: > >> >> >> Just wanted to resurface this topic... >> >> I sure would like MarkSpace to rework the Entourage Conduit to support EVERY >> field in the new Palm 5 PIM apps. >> >> THAT would even be worth paying for :-) >> -- >> Cheers, >> >> Bob >> >> I support that suggestion 500% (if such a percentage exists)... Cheers >> Michael >> >> Associate Professor Michael Griffith >> School of Arts and Sciences >> Australian Catholic University Limited >> ABN 15 050 192 660 >> PO Box 968, North Sydney 2059 >> Ph: +61 2 9701 4192 >> Fax: +61 2 9701 4263 >> Email: M.griffith@mary.acu.edu.au >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found >> at: >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > > -- > Exterminate all rational thought. > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > From miketall at mac.com Mon Mar 7 22:11:43 2005 From: miketall at mac.com (.Mac Mike) Date: Mon Mar 7 19:11:49 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Entourage In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Bob, I would have to "second" this one. While I have gotten the Entourage 2004 conduit to work, it can still be flaky at times, and I am worried about the future of it now that new Palm OS isn't fully supported. Entourage 2004 has become the centerpiece of my work environment over the past few months. I still use "Address Book" & "iCal", but only for secondary features such as Bluetooth SMS, .Mac syncing, & calendar publishing. If Mark/Space would be willing to develop an independent Entourage 2004 conduit, I know a lot of people would be very happy. It also might be the deciding factor in getting people to switch to Missing Sync. Right now, most of my friends won't switch from Palm's HotSync to Missing Sync because of the price (HotSync being free - yet flaky & slow). If a REAL, WORKING Entourage conduit was also provided, I'm sure they would all think again about making the switch. Michael Tall Visual Caf? Inc. On 3/7/05 8:57 PM, "Robert Williams" wrote: > Tim, > > You miss the point - there has been talk in the past about Mark|Space > rewriting the Entourage Conduit so that it would actually sync correctly to > a Palm 5 device :) > > THAT is what I was referring to. > Bob > On 3/7/05 7:18 AM, "Tim Collier" wrote: >> Microsoft wrote it not Markspace. Go talk to them. >> >> Tim >> On 3/6/05 10:01 PM, "Michael Griffith" wrote: >>> Just wanted to resurface this topic... >>> >>> I sure would like MarkSpace to rework the Entourage Conduit to support EVERY >>> field in the new Palm 5 PIM apps. >>> >>> THAT would even be worth paying for :-) >>> -- >>> Cheers, >>> Bob >>> >>> I support that suggestion 500% (if such a percentage exists)... Cheers >>> Michael >>> >>> Associate Professor Michael Griffith >>> School of Arts and Sciences >>> Australian Catholic University Limited >>> ABN 15 050 192 660 >>> PO Box 968, North Sydney 2059 >>> Ph: +61 2 9701 4192 >>> Fax: +61 2 9701 4263 >>> Email: M.griffith@mary.acu.edu.au From berkowit at silcom.com Mon Mar 7 19:47:20 2005 From: berkowit at silcom.com (Paul Berkowitz) Date: Mon Mar 7 19:47:27 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Entourage In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Just wait for Tiger and the Entourage update expected in "second half of 2005". -- Paul Berkowitz > From: ".Mac Mike" > Reply-To: "The Missing Sync (Mac/Palm OS) Discussion List" > > Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2005 22:11:43 -0500 > To: "The Missing Sync (Mac/Palm OS) Discussion List" > > Subject: Re: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Entourage > > Bob, > > I would have to "second" this one. While I have gotten the Entourage 2004 > conduit to work, it can still be flaky at times, and I am worried about the > future of it now that new Palm OS isn't fully supported. Entourage 2004 has > become the centerpiece of my work environment over the past few months. I > still use "Address Book" & "iCal", but only for secondary features such as > Bluetooth SMS, .Mac syncing, & calendar publishing. > > If Mark/Space would be willing to develop an independent Entourage 2004 > conduit, I know a lot of people would be very happy. It also might be the > deciding factor in getting people to switch to Missing Sync. Right now, > most of my friends won't switch from Palm's HotSync to Missing Sync because > of the price (HotSync being free - yet flaky & slow). If a REAL, WORKING > Entourage conduit was also provided, I'm sure they would all think again > about making the switch. > > Michael Tall > Visual Caf? Inc. > > > > On 3/7/05 8:57 PM, "Robert Williams" wrote: >> Tim, >> >> You miss the point - there has been talk in the past about Mark|Space >> rewriting the Entourage Conduit so that it would actually sync correctly to >> a Palm 5 device :) >> >> THAT is what I was referring to. >> Bob > > > > >> On 3/7/05 7:18 AM, "Tim Collier" wrote: >>> Microsoft wrote it not Markspace. Go talk to them. >>> >>> Tim > > > > >>> On 3/6/05 10:01 PM, "Michael Griffith" wrote: >>>> Just wanted to resurface this topic... >>>> >>>> I sure would like MarkSpace to rework the Entourage Conduit to support >>>> EVERY >>>> field in the new Palm 5 PIM apps. >>>> >>>> THAT would even be worth paying for :-) >>>> -- >>>> Cheers, >>>> Bob >>>> >>>> I support that suggestion 500% (if such a percentage exists)... Cheers >>>> Michael >>>> >>>> Associate Professor Michael Griffith >>>> School of Arts and Sciences >>>> Australian Catholic University Limited >>>> ABN 15 050 192 660 >>>> PO Box 968, North Sydney 2059 >>>> Ph: +61 2 9701 4192 >>>> Fax: +61 2 9701 4263 >>>> Email: M.griffith@mary.acu.edu.au > > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > From m.griffith at mary.acu.edu.au Tue Mar 8 18:20:13 2005 From: m.griffith at mary.acu.edu.au (Michael Griffith) Date: Mon Mar 7 23:20:31 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Entourage Sync Palm OS5+ Message-ID: Hi Bob: while we are waiting for mid 2005 (!) could you share with us your strategies for getting Entourage to work with the newer Palms... All tips would help.... Cheers Michael Bob, I would have to "second" this one. While I have gotten the Entourage 2004 conduit to work, it can still be flaky at times, and I am worried about the future of it now that new Palm OS isn't fully supported. Entourage 2004 has become the centerpiece of my work environment over the past few months. I still use "Address Book" & "iCal", but only for secondary features such as Bluetooth SMS, .Mac syncing, & calendar publishing. If Mark/Space would be willing to develop an independent Entourage 2004 conduit, I know a lot of people would be very happy. It also might be the deciding factor in getting people to switch to Missing Sync. Right now, most of my friends won't switch from Palm's HotSync to Missing Sync because of the price (HotSync being free - yet flaky & slow). If a REAL, WORKING Entourage conduit was also provided, I'm sure they would all think again about making the switch. Michael Tall Visual Caf? Inc. On 3/7/05 8:57 PM, "Robert Williams" wrote: > Tim, > > You miss the point - there has been talk in the past about Mark|Space > rewriting the Entourage Conduit so that it would actually sync correctly to > a Palm 5 device :) > > THAT is what I was referring to. > Bob > On 3/7/05 7:18 AM, "Tim Collier" wrote: >> Microsoft wrote it not Markspace. Go talk to them. >> >> Tim >> On 3/6/05 10:01 PM, "Michael Griffith" wrote: >>> Just wanted to resurface this topic... >>> >>> I sure would like MarkSpace to rework the Entourage Conduit to support EVERY >>> field in the new Palm 5 PIM apps. >>> >>> THAT would even be worth paying for :-) >>> -- >>> Cheers, >>> Bob >>> >>> I support that suggestion 500% (if such a percentage exists)... Cheers >>> Michael >>> >>> Associate Professor Michael Griffith >>> School of Arts and Sciences >>> Australian Catholic University Limited >>> ABN 15 050 192 660 >>> PO Box 968, North Sydney 2059 >>> Ph: +61 2 9701 4192 >>> Fax: +61 2 9701 4263 >>> Email: M.griffith@mary.acu.edu.au _______________________________________________ missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found at: http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk From collierof1957 at mac.com Tue Mar 8 08:12:21 2005 From: collierof1957 at mac.com (Tim Collier) Date: Tue Mar 8 05:12:42 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Entourage In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Interestingly enough, I sync effortlessly to a Palm Tungsten C running version 5.whatever of the Palm OS. I also use Entourage and the conduit that came with it and still have NO problems. I sync it with my G4 iBook 1.2 gig running 10.3.8 and my G5 iMac 1.8 gig running 10.3.8. I have never seen a problem with the Entourage Conduit THAT is what I was referring to. Tim On 3/7/05 8:57 PM, "Robert Williams" wrote: > Tim, > > You miss the point - there has been talk in the past about Mark|Space > rewriting the Entourage Conduit so that it would actually sync correctly to > a Palm 5 device :) > > THAT is what I was referring to. > > Bob > > > On 3/7/05 7:18 AM, "Tim Collier" wrote: > >> Microsoft wrote it not Markspace. Go talk to them. >> >> Tim >> >> >> On 3/6/05 10:01 PM, "Michael Griffith" wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> Just wanted to resurface this topic... >>> >>> I sure would like MarkSpace to rework the Entourage Conduit to support EVERY >>> field in the new Palm 5 PIM apps. >>> >>> THAT would even be worth paying for :-) >>> -- >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Bob >>> >>> I support that suggestion 500% (if such a percentage exists)... Cheers >>> Michael >>> >>> Associate Professor Michael Griffith >>> School of Arts and Sciences >>> Australian Catholic University Limited >>> ABN 15 050 192 660 >>> PO Box 968, North Sydney 2059 >>> Ph: +61 2 9701 4192 >>> Fax: +61 2 9701 4263 >>> Email: M.griffith@mary.acu.edu.au >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >>> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >>> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be >>> found >>> at: >>> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk >> >> -- >> Exterminate all rational thought. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found >> at: >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk >> > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk -- Exterminate all rational thought. From collierof1957 at mac.com Tue Mar 8 08:35:46 2005 From: collierof1957 at mac.com (Tim Collier) Date: Tue Mar 8 05:36:07 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Entourage In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I forgot to mention that I have Office 2004 and that I can sync using Wi-Fi since the latest Missing Sync release too. Tim On 3/8/05 8:12 AM, "Tim Collier" wrote: > Interestingly enough, I sync effortlessly to a Palm Tungsten C running > version 5.whatever of the Palm OS. I also use Entourage and the conduit > that came with it and still have NO problems. I sync it with my G4 iBook > 1.2 gig running 10.3.8 and my G5 iMac 1.8 gig running 10.3.8. > I have never seen a problem with the Entourage Conduit THAT is what I was > referring to. > > Tim > > > On 3/7/05 8:57 PM, "Robert Williams" wrote: > >> Tim, >> >> You miss the point - there has been talk in the past about Mark|Space >> rewriting the Entourage Conduit so that it would actually sync correctly to >> a Palm 5 device :) >> >> THAT is what I was referring to. >> >> Bob >> >> >> On 3/7/05 7:18 AM, "Tim Collier" wrote: >> >>> Microsoft wrote it not Markspace. Go talk to them. >>> >>> Tim >>> >>> >>> On 3/6/05 10:01 PM, "Michael Griffith" wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Just wanted to resurface this topic... >>>> >>>> I sure would like MarkSpace to rework the Entourage Conduit to support >>>> EVERY >>>> field in the new Palm 5 PIM apps. >>>> >>>> THAT would even be worth paying for :-) >>>> -- >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Bob >>>> >>>> I support that suggestion 500% (if such a percentage exists)... Cheers >>>> Michael >>>> >>>> Associate Professor Michael Griffith >>>> School of Arts and Sciences >>>> Australian Catholic University Limited >>>> ABN 15 050 192 660 >>>> PO Box 968, North Sydney 2059 >>>> Ph: +61 2 9701 4192 >>>> Fax: +61 2 9701 4263 >>>> Email: M.griffith@mary.acu.edu.au >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >>>> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >>>> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be >>>> found >>>> at: >>>> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk >>> >>> -- >>> Exterminate all rational thought. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >>> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >>> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be >>> found >>> at: >>> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found >> at: >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > > -- > Exterminate all rational thought. > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk -- Exterminate all rational thought. From bobwilliams at knology.net Tue Mar 8 15:37:17 2005 From: bobwilliams at knology.net (bobwilliams@knology.net) Date: Tue Mar 8 07:37:22 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Entourage In-Reply-To: <> References: <> Message-ID: <20050308153717.17798.qmail@webmail1.knology.net> Then you obviously do not use the Contacts conduit that much Tim. See: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;871020 for the problems associated with the Microsoft Conduit (they are VERY significant if you have both home and work addreses for your contacts). Trust me there are SIGNIFICANT problems syncing with Entourage that both Mark|Space and Microsoft are aware of. It would be best for all if Mark|Space rewrote the Entourage conduit (shoot, maybe they could even get the contact photos to sync! Now, wouldn't THAT be cool?!) How about the Birthday and Anniversary fields (if you are syncing THOSE I really want to know about that! :-) Categories - have you tried to sync categories? Multiple emails? Do you sync those? Sorry I was not clearer earlier - perhaps now you see where I am coming from. Regards, Robert On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 08:35:46 -0500, Tim Collier wrote : > I forgot to mention that I have Office 2004 and that I can sync using Wi- Fi > since the latest Missing Sync release too. > > Tim > > > On 3/8/05 8:12 AM, "Tim Collier" wrote: > > > Interestingly enough, I sync effortlessly to a Palm Tungsten C running > > version 5.whatever of the Palm OS. I also use Entourage and the conduit > > that came with it and still have NO problems. I sync it with my G4 iBook > > 1.2 gig running 10.3.8 and my G5 iMac 1.8 gig running 10.3.8. > > I have never seen a problem with the Entourage Conduit THAT is what I was > > referring to. > > > > Tim > > > > > > On 3/7/05 8:57 PM, "Robert Williams" wrote: > > > >> Tim, > >> > >> You miss the point - there has been talk in the past about Mark|Space > >> rewriting the Entourage Conduit so that it would actually sync correctly to > >> a Palm 5 device :) > >> > >> THAT is what I was referring to. > >> > >> Bob > >> > >> > >> On 3/7/05 7:18 AM, "Tim Collier" wrote: > >> > >>> Microsoft wrote it not Markspace. Go talk to them. > >>> > >>> Tim > >>> > >>> > >>> On 3/6/05 10:01 PM, "Michael Griffith" wrote: > >>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Just wanted to resurface this topic... > >>>> > >>>> I sure would like MarkSpace to rework the Entourage Conduit to support > >>>> EVERY > >>>> field in the new Palm 5 PIM apps. > >>>> > >>>> THAT would even be worth paying for :-) > >>>> -- > >>>> Cheers, > >>>> > >>>> Bob > >>>> > >>>> I support that suggestion 500% (if such a percentage exists)... Cheers > >>>> Michael > >>>> > >>>> Associate Professor Michael Griffith > >>>> School of Arts and Sciences > >>>> Australian Catholic University Limited > >>>> ABN 15 050 192 660 > >>>> PO Box 968, North Sydney 2059 > >>>> Ph: +61 2 9701 4192 > >>>> Fax: +61 2 9701 4263 > >>>> Email: M.griffith@mary.acu.edu.au > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > >>>> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > >>>> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be > >>>> found > >>>> at: > >>>> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Exterminate all rational thought. > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > >>> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > >>> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be > >>> found > >>> at: > >>> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > >>> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > >> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > >> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > >> at: > >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > > > > -- > > Exterminate all rational thought. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > > at: > > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > > -- > Exterminate all rational thought. > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > > > From amcutting at yahoo.co.uk Tue Mar 8 16:14:10 2005 From: amcutting at yahoo.co.uk (Alastair Cutting) Date: Tue Mar 8 08:14:15 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Entourage In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <061c332f3ce980587a6861f54abe4902@yahoo.co.uk> And not just for Entourage, hopefully, but also for Apple's own Mail, Address Book and iCal too... Infuriating to have categories/groups available in Palm and Mac, but not to be able to sync them effectively. As others have said, there is a market for this if Apple or Microsoft won't do it! Alastair T3 and PowerMac MDD 2x1G On 8 Mar 2005, at 03:47, Paul Berkowitz wrote: > Just wait for Tiger and the Entourage update expected in "second half > of > 2005". > > -- > Paul Berkowitz > > >> From: ".Mac Mike" >> Reply-To: "The Missing Sync (Mac/Palm OS) Discussion List" >> >> Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2005 22:11:43 -0500 >> To: "The Missing Sync (Mac/Palm OS) Discussion List" >> >> Subject: Re: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Entourage >> >> Bob, >> >> I would have to "second" this one. While I have gotten the Entourage >> 2004 >> conduit to work, it can still be flaky at times, and I am worried >> about the >> future of it now that new Palm OS isn't fully supported. Entourage >> 2004 has >> become the centerpiece of my work environment over the past few >> months. I >> still use "Address Book" & "iCal", but only for secondary features >> such as >> Bluetooth SMS, .Mac syncing, & calendar publishing. >> >> If Mark/Space would be willing to develop an independent Entourage >> 2004 >> conduit, I know a lot of people would be very happy. It also might >> be the >> deciding factor in getting people to switch to Missing Sync. Right >> now, >> most of my friends won't switch from Palm's HotSync to Missing Sync >> because >> of the price (HotSync being free - yet flaky & slow). If a REAL, >> WORKING >> Entourage conduit was also provided, I'm sure they would all think >> again >> about making the switch. >> >> Michael Tall >> Visual Caf? Inc. >> >> >> >> On 3/7/05 8:57 PM, "Robert Williams" wrote: >>> Tim, >>> >>> You miss the point - there has been talk in the past about Mark|Space >>> rewriting the Entourage Conduit so that it would actually sync >>> correctly to >>> a Palm 5 device :) >>> >>> THAT is what I was referring to. >>> Bob >> >> >> >> >>> On 3/7/05 7:18 AM, "Tim Collier" wrote: >>>> Microsoft wrote it not Markspace. Go talk to them. >>>> >>>> Tim >> >> >> >> >>>> On 3/6/05 10:01 PM, "Michael Griffith" >>>> wrote: >>>>> Just wanted to resurface this topic... >>>>> >>>>> I sure would like MarkSpace to rework the Entourage Conduit to >>>>> support >>>>> EVERY >>>>> field in the new Palm 5 PIM apps. >>>>> >>>>> THAT would even be worth paying for :-) >>>>> -- >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Bob >>>>> >>>>> I support that suggestion 500% (if such a percentage exists)... >>>>> Cheers >>>>> Michael >>>>> >>>>> Associate Professor Michael Griffith >>>>> School of Arts and Sciences >>>>> Australian Catholic University Limited >>>>> ABN 15 050 192 660 >>>>> PO Box 968, North Sydney 2059 >>>>> Ph: +61 2 9701 4192 >>>>> Fax: +61 2 9701 4263 >>>>> Email: M.griffith@mary.acu.edu.au >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can >> be found >> at: >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > From kyle_skrinak at spamcop.net Tue Mar 8 11:15:15 2005 From: kyle_skrinak at spamcop.net (Kyle Skrinak) Date: Tue Mar 8 08:15:20 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Backup oddity (or not) In-Reply-To: <200503081546.j28FkZwH008826@penguin.markspace.com> Message-ID: If I perform a disk-to-disk backup, using either psync or Retrospect, the kext files that Missing Sync 4.0.8 installs will fail on the mirrored volume. I receive a system error message that the SONYCLIE and Message-ID: Hi Kyle, Having spent more than seven years at Dantz before joining Mark/Space, I may be able to help. ;-) Are you performing a Duplicate operation with Retrospect? Are you running Retrospect on this computer, or are you doing this across a network? Do these files show up with entries in Retrospect's Operations Log? Cheers, Eric -- Eric Ullman Director of Sales and Marketing Mark/Space, Inc. eullman@markspace.com On 3/8/05 8:15, "Kyle Skrinak" wrote: > If I perform a disk-to-disk backup, using either psync or Retrospect, the > kext files that Missing Sync 4.0.8 installs will fail on the mirrored > volume. I receive a system error message that the SONYCLIE and kext object" failed to load, please reinstall, followed with "Missing Sync > needs to be reinstalled." > > While this isn't a huge deal -- what options do I have to ensure that the > mirrored backup will boot properly? > > Regards; > Kyle From hasan.diwan at gmail.com Tue Mar 8 09:26:44 2005 From: hasan.diwan at gmail.com (Hasan Diwan) Date: Tue Mar 8 09:26:51 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] 4.0.4 + Garmin iQue 3600 issues Message-ID: <2cda2fc9050308092614bb510@mail.gmail.com> I don't know if this is of any concern. I just upgraded to 4.04 and am getting the following errors in my synchronisation log that I wasn't previously: MemoPad conduit was unable to open the MemoPad database on the handheld. Failed Mark/Space MemoPad (0x4403) TimeCopy: db create failed: 17411 However, the memo seems to be synchronized; I don't really worry about the time it shows. Thanks for the help! -- Cheers, Hasan Diwan From kyle_skrinak at spamcop.net Tue Mar 8 15:36:00 2005 From: kyle_skrinak at spamcop.net (Kyle Skrinak) Date: Tue Mar 8 12:36:06 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: Backup oddity (or not) In-Reply-To: <200503082002.j28K2FwH018883@penguin.markspace.com> Message-ID: Yes -- excellent qualifiers! I am running a duplicate mirroring to a disk connected via FireWire 400. Retrospect (and psync) are both executing from my laptop as well. No remote procedures are executing (as a result of my backup, that is) The retrospect log shows no errors -- hmmm..., wait a minute: + Duplicate using Dup_10 at 3/8/2005 8:31 AM Warning: volume Skrinak_10_bu has the Ignore ownership setting enabled. [snip of successful results lines] I know that's not a good thing -- I'm going to disable the above toggle and see what that buys me. Thanks for the pointer -- I hope this fixes it! Regards; Kyle On 3/8/05 3:02 PM, "missing-sync-palmos-talk-request@lists.markspace.com" typed: > Hi Kyle, > > Having spent more than seven years at Dantz before joining Mark/Space, I may > be able to help. ;-) > > Are you performing a Duplicate operation with Retrospect? Are you running > Retrospect on this computer, or are you doing this across a network? Do > these files show up with entries in Retrospect's Operations Log? > > Cheers, > Eric From eullman at markspace.com Tue Mar 8 12:40:11 2005 From: eullman at markspace.com (Eric Ullman) Date: Tue Mar 8 12:40:17 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: Backup oddity (or not) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I believe you found the answer. :-) On 3/8/05 12:36, "Kyle Skrinak" wrote: > Yes -- excellent qualifiers! I am running a duplicate mirroring to a disk > connected via FireWire 400. Retrospect (and psync) are both executing from > my laptop as well. No remote procedures are executing (as a result of my > backup, that is) > > The retrospect log shows no errors -- hmmm..., wait a minute: > + Duplicate using Dup_10 at 3/8/2005 8:31 AM > Warning: volume Skrinak_10_bu has the Ignore ownership setting enabled. > [snip of successful results lines] > > I know that's not a good thing -- I'm going to disable the above toggle and > see what that buys me. > > Thanks for the pointer -- I hope this fixes it! > > Regards; > Kyle > > > On 3/8/05 3:02 PM, "missing-sync-palmos-talk-request@lists.markspace.com" > typed: > >> Hi Kyle, >> >> Having spent more than seven years at Dantz before joining Mark/Space, I may >> be able to help. ;-) >> >> Are you performing a Duplicate operation with Retrospect? Are you running >> Retrospect on this computer, or are you doing this across a network? Do >> these files show up with entries in Retrospect's Operations Log? >> >> Cheers, >> Eric From collierof1957 at mac.com Tue Mar 8 19:18:52 2005 From: collierof1957 at mac.com (Tim Collier) Date: Tue Mar 8 16:19:05 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Entourage In-Reply-To: <20050308153717.17798.qmail@webmail1.knology.net> Message-ID: I'm really sorry that all of you seem to be having so many problems using Missing Sync with Entourage.....but that has not been my experience. I DO sync calendar and contacts from Entourage on an almost daily basis. Maybe if I tell you all what conduits I have active, it might help you with your problems. I have these conduits active: Backup Documents To Go Entourage Conduit Install TimeCopy That's it. Everythings syncs perfectly. I never get an error message. I hope that this can help some of you who are experiencing problems. Once again, I use the Tungsten C running the Palm OS 5.2.1 and a G4 iBook 1.2 gig and G5 iMac 1.8 gig. I sync to both using either the cradle or Wi-Fi. I'm using the latest versions of all the software. Tim On 3/8/05 10:37 AM, "bobwilliams@knology.net" wrote: > Then you obviously do not use the Contacts conduit that much Tim. > > See: > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;871020 > > for the problems associated with the Microsoft Conduit (they are VERY > significant if you have both home and work addreses for your contacts). > > Trust me there are SIGNIFICANT problems syncing with Entourage that both > Mark|Space and Microsoft are aware of. > > It would be best for all if Mark|Space rewrote the Entourage conduit > (shoot, maybe they could even get the contact photos to sync! Now, > wouldn't THAT be cool?!) > > How about the Birthday and Anniversary fields (if you are syncing THOSE I > really want to know about that! :-) > > Categories - have you tried to sync categories? > Multiple emails? Do you sync those? > > Sorry I was not clearer earlier - perhaps now you see where I am coming > from. > > Regards, > > Robert > > On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 08:35:46 -0500, Tim Collier > wrote : > >> I forgot to mention that I have Office 2004 and that I can sync using Wi- > Fi >> since the latest Missing Sync release too. >> >> Tim >> >> >> On 3/8/05 8:12 AM, "Tim Collier" wrote: >> >>> Interestingly enough, I sync effortlessly to a Palm Tungsten C running >>> version 5.whatever of the Palm OS. I also use Entourage and the > conduit >>> that came with it and still have NO problems. I sync it with my G4 > iBook >>> 1.2 gig running 10.3.8 and my G5 iMac 1.8 gig running 10.3.8. >>> I have never seen a problem with the Entourage Conduit THAT is what I > was >>> referring to. >>> >>> Tim >>> >>> >>> On 3/7/05 8:57 PM, "Robert Williams" wrote: >>> >>>> Tim, >>>> >>>> You miss the point - there has been talk in the past about Mark|Space >>>> rewriting the Entourage Conduit so that it would actually sync > correctly to >>>> a Palm 5 device :) >>>> >>>> THAT is what I was referring to. >>>> >>>> Bob >>>> >>>> >>>> On 3/7/05 7:18 AM, "Tim Collier" wrote: >>>> >>>>> Microsoft wrote it not Markspace. Go talk to them. >>>>> >>>>> Tim >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 3/6/05 10:01 PM, "Michael Griffith" > wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Just wanted to resurface this topic... >>>>>> >>>>>> I sure would like MarkSpace to rework the Entourage Conduit to > support >>>>>> EVERY >>>>>> field in the new Palm 5 PIM apps. >>>>>> >>>>>> THAT would even be worth paying for :-) >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> >>>>>> Bob >>>>>> >>>>>> I support that suggestion 500% (if such a percentage exists)... > Cheers >>>>>> Michael >>>>>> >>>>>> Associate Professor Michael Griffith >>>>>> School of Arts and Sciences >>>>>> Australian Catholic University Limited >>>>>> ABN 15 050 192 660 >>>>>> PO Box 968, North Sydney 2059 >>>>>> Ph: +61 2 9701 4192 >>>>>> Fax: +61 2 9701 4263 >>>>>> Email: M.griffith@mary.acu.edu.au >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >>>>>> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >>>>>> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives > can be >>>>>> found >>>>>> at: >>>>>> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Exterminate all rational thought. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >>>>> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >>>>> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > be >>>>> found >>>>> at: >>>>> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >>>> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >>>> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > be found >>>> at: >>>> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk >>> >>> -- >>> Exterminate all rational thought. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >>> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >>> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > be found >>> at: >>> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk >> >> -- >> Exterminate all rational thought. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be > found at: >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk -- Exterminate all rational thought. From pdengler at gmail.com Tue Mar 8 16:28:51 2005 From: pdengler at gmail.com (Pat Dengler) Date: Tue Mar 8 16:29:05 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] hotsync issue; Mac OS X, Treo 650, MS 4.0.4 Message-ID: <608b1ca049221b6f26433a5ba396cc97@mac.com> I can only hotsync once - in order to do another hotsync (even if it's the next day) I have to restart or log out of my mac. I'm running the latest software on all everything. Resetting the Treo seemed to work once but no more... From ucgajpd at ucl.ac.uk Wed Mar 9 00:49:51 2005 From: ucgajpd at ucl.ac.uk (Jason Davies) Date: Tue Mar 8 16:49:55 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] mounting a disk via MS or via a card reader Message-ID: I've been working with the files on my memory card direct by mounting through MS but got fed up with fiddling around to activate MS and wondered if a reader would be quicker (using the iTunes plugin is tortuously slow in my experience, for example, and effectively kills iTunes for several minutes). But the card seems to get corrupted in the reader, data getting lost and so on. Is Missing Sync doing something special here? I refromatted the card in the Palm and replaced the files, then some of them got corrupted again. I'd apprectiae knowing (roughly) how MS does it, in case I have a faulty card reader that I should return (ie are they equals or is this predictable?) thanks From brian_hall at markspace.com Tue Mar 8 16:52:44 2005 From: brian_hall at markspace.com (Brian Hall) Date: Tue Mar 8 16:53:06 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] hotsync issue; Mac OS X, Treo 650, MS 4.0.4 In-Reply-To: <608b1ca049221b6f26433a5ba396cc97@mac.com> References: <608b1ca049221b6f26433a5ba396cc97@mac.com> Message-ID: >I can only hotsync once - in order to do another hotsync (even if it's >the next day) I have to restart or log out of my mac. I'm running the >latest software on all everything. Resetting the Treo seemed to work >once but no more... Make sure you are running the latest release, 4.0.4, as that is a known issue (sync once with 650 via bluetooth) with prior releases. See http://www.markspace.com/downloads.html Brian -- _____________________________________________________________________ Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 654 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 Los Gatos, CA 95030-4360 From sgruby at markspace.com Tue Mar 8 16:53:26 2005 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Tue Mar 8 16:53:55 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] mounting a disk via MS or via a card reader In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mar 8, 2005, at 4:49 PM, Jason Davies wrote: > I've been working with the files on my memory card direct by mounting > through MS but got fed up with fiddling around to activate MS and > wondered if a reader would be quicker (using the iTunes plugin is > tortuously slow in my experience, for example, and effectively kills > iTunes for several minutes). > > But the card seems to get corrupted in the reader, data getting lost > and > so on. Is Missing Sync doing something special here? I refromatted the > card in the Palm and replaced the files, then some of them got > corrupted > again. I'd apprectiae knowing (roughly) how MS does it, in case I have > a > faulty card reader that I should return (ie are they equals or is this > predictable?) > Missing Sync is not doing anything special with the plugin. I routinely change between mounting cards using Missing Sync and using a card reader. Personally I have a San Disk ImageMate 8 in 1 card reader (USB 2.0). For machines that have USB 2.0, a card reader might be significantly faster as no Palm OS based handheld has USB 2.0. I'd recommend trying a different card reader. -- Scott Gruby Lead Engineer, Missing Sync for Palm OS Mark/Space, Inc. Please contact support@markspace.com for assistance with Mark/Space products. From atmasphere at atmasphere.net Tue Mar 8 20:33:39 2005 From: atmasphere at atmasphere.net (Jonathan Greene) Date: Tue Mar 8 17:33:44 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] mounting a disk via MS or via a card reader In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20c3063ff1f87eeb81f46145428198a6@atmasphere.net> I use a SanDisk PC Card Adapter and I've noticed it is more than 10x faster on larger transfers. On Mar 8, 2005, at 7:53 PM, Scott Gruby wrote: > For machines that have USB 2.0, a card reader might be significantly > faster as no Palm OS based handheld has USB 2.0. From m.griffith at mary.acu.edu.au Wed Mar 9 12:46:35 2005 From: m.griffith at mary.acu.edu.au (Michael Griffith) Date: Tue Mar 8 17:46:46 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Sync with Entourage Message-ID: Thanks Tim for that... But maybe the Tungsten C does not have the new conduits that were implanted into the Tungsten T3 and E... Maybe that is why you are having success and we are not? If that is not the case it would be great to know whether you are doing a Sync both ways or just syncing from Entourage to your Palm??? Cheers Michael Associate Professor Michael Griffith School of Arts and Sciences Australian Catholic University Limited ABN 15 050 192 660 PO Box 968, North Sydney 2059 Ph: +61 2 9701 4192 Fax: +61 2 9701 4263 Email: M.griffith@mary.acu.edu.au From ppatanella at mac.com Wed Mar 9 07:23:26 2005 From: ppatanella at mac.com (Paul Patanella) Date: Wed Mar 9 04:24:33 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Sync with Entourage In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yes, that's exactly the case: the Tungsten C does not have the new conduits and PIM apps ('Contacts' vs. 'Address Book' etc.). Those debuted with the Tungsten T3, Tungsten E, and whatever Zire was released at around the same time. So I think that's why Tim's not having the problem that others are reporting. -- Paul Patanella On Mar 8, 2005, at 8:46 PM, Michael Griffith wrote: > Thanks Tim for that... But maybe the Tungsten C does not have the new > conduits that were implanted into the Tungsten T3 and E... Maybe that > is why > you are having success and we are not? > If that is not the case it would be great to know whether you are > doing a > Sync both ways or just syncing from Entourage to your Palm??? > > Cheers > Michael > > Associate Professor Michael Griffith > School of Arts and Sciences > Australian Catholic University Limited > ABN 15 050 192 660 > PO Box 968, North Sydney 2059 > Ph: +61 2 9701 4192 > Fax: +61 2 9701 4263 > Email: M.griffith@mary.acu.edu.au > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk From collierof1957 at mac.com Wed Mar 9 09:09:03 2005 From: collierof1957 at mac.com (Tim Collier) Date: Thu Mar 10 06:39:38 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Sync with Entourage In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Both ways? I'm not certain what you mean by that. If you mean the palm desktop, no I don't use it. If you're talking about iSync, no, I have no need. If you mean some other way, please explain further. Tim On 3/8/05 8:46 PM, "Michael Griffith" wrote: > Thanks Tim for that... But maybe the Tungsten C does not have the new > conduits that were implanted into the Tungsten T3 and E... Maybe that is why > you are having success and we are not? > If that is not the case it would be great to know whether you are doing a > Sync both ways or just syncing from Entourage to your Palm??? > > Cheers > Michael > > Associate Professor Michael Griffith > School of Arts and Sciences > Australian Catholic University Limited > ABN 15 050 192 660 > PO Box 968, North Sydney 2059 > Ph: +61 2 9701 4192 > Fax: +61 2 9701 4263 > Email: M.griffith@mary.acu.edu.au > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk -- Exterminate all rational thought. From shannon-ross at uiowa.edu Wed Mar 9 07:56:08 2005 From: shannon-ross at uiowa.edu (Shannon Ross-Sheehy) Date: Thu Mar 10 06:39:39 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: Entourage In-Reply-To: <200503091244.j29CiCwG009699@penguin.markspace.com> Message-ID: My problem with the Entourage conduit is that it is completely lacking in basic functionality. Sure, it works OK a good 80% of the time (as you can see, my expectations have dropped for what constitutes "good"), but IMHO, being able to sync calendar categories is basic functionality that is completely lacking. I suppose Microsoft isn't too worried about that, as Entourage itself is completely lacking in many core Exchange features. Almost weekly, I have to log on to a PC to make changes to my exchange account, to see others calendars (in a more appropriate way), to see how big each of my mailboxes are, to set up delegate access, etc.. Plus, Entourage has that display bug, so every time you view a complex HTML email message, it begins right justifying everything in a text field throughout the program, making it nearly impossible to read some items. Oh there I go... I shouldn't even get started. In any case, there is a conduit that a guy in Japan made that I had some luck with (it syncs categories) when I was using MS Office X (doesn't work with 2004), it's called QueueSync. It is also freeware. I had a couple of issues and he (the developer) always emailed me back within the day (of course it was in the middle of the night for me!) and was very helpful and would even make new versions for me to try on my palm. Oh, and just for completeness, I have used the Entourage conduit with a Treo 600, a Treo 650, a Tungsten T2, a Tungsten T3, and a Tungsten C. I have had trouble (sketchy syncing) with every single one. However, I count myself lucky, as there is not a single person in the department who can get the Entourage Conduit to sync (or even allow the user to configure it) without first restarting their computer. They are not even using MissingSync. But you can bet they would if the Missing Sync folks wrote a new conduit! :-) I guess I can try to be patient, but when I hear second half of this year, I always think December! Oh well, for not it's the best game in town. Shannon On 3/9/05 6:44 AM, "missing-sync-palmos-talk-request@lists.markspace.com" wrote: > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2005 19:18:52 -0500 > From: Tim Collier > Subject: Re: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Entourage > To: "The Missing Sync (Mac/Palm OS) Discussion List" > > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > I'm really sorry that all of you seem to be having so many problems using > Missing Sync with Entourage.....but that has not been my experience. I DO > sync calendar and contacts from Entourage on an almost daily basis. Maybe > if I tell you all what conduits I have active, it might help you with your > problems. > I have these conduits active: > Backup > Documents To Go > Entourage Conduit > Install > TimeCopy > That's it. Everythings syncs perfectly. I never get an error message. I > hope that this can help some of you who are experiencing problems. > Once again, I use the Tungsten C running the Palm OS 5.2.1 and a G4 iBook > 1.2 gig and G5 iMac 1.8 gig. I sync to both using either the cradle or > Wi-Fi. I'm using the latest versions of all the software. > > Tim From kyle_skrinak at spamcop.net Wed Mar 9 11:29:34 2005 From: kyle_skrinak at spamcop.net (Kyle Skrinak) Date: Thu Mar 10 06:39:39 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: Backup oddity (or not) In-Reply-To: <200503082002.j28K2FwH018883@penguin.markspace.com> Message-ID: It appears there were two variables at play: 1) Backup via a third boot disk (so that source and target disks should have no open files) and 2) Having the "Ignore Permissions" toggle set to false for the the source and target disks. After applying the above, upon startup from the mirrored boot drive, the Missing Sync kext files worked without burping. My guess is that these files are open (and thus locked) preventing a proper backup? I was hoping that the very quick psync utility (compared to Retrospect) would *also* let me backup while operating from my main boot disk. Thanks for indulging my curiosity -- and setting this problem straight! You don't want to help with a VPN issue I'm having? :) Regards; Kyle On 3/8/05 3:02 PM, "missing-sync-palmos-talk-request@lists.markspace.com" typed: > Hi Kyle, > > Having spent more than seven years at Dantz before joining Mark/Space, I may > be able to help. ;-) > > Are you performing a Duplicate operation with Retrospect? Are you running > Retrospect on this computer, or are you doing this across a network? Do > these files show up with entries in Retrospect's Operations Log? > > Cheers, > Eric From jwofford-p-ga at adelphia.net Wed Mar 9 15:46:20 2005 From: jwofford-p-ga at adelphia.net (Joey Wofford) Date: Thu Mar 10 06:39:40 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] hotsync issue; Mac OS X, Treo 650, MS 4.0.4 In-Reply-To: References: <608b1ca049221b6f26433a5ba396cc97@mac.com> Message-ID: I just hotsynced and now my treo 650 won't stop resetting. What do I do? Can someone please help me? Joey On Mar 8, 2005, at 7:52 PM, Brian Hall wrote: >> I can only hotsync once - in order to do another hotsync (even if it's >> the next day) I have to restart or log out of my mac. I'm running the >> latest software on all everything. Resetting the Treo seemed to work >> once but no more... > > Make sure you are running the latest release, 4.0.4, as that is a known > issue (sync once with 650 via bluetooth) with prior releases. > > See http://www.markspace.com/downloads.html > > Brian > > -- > _____________________________________________________________________ > Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 > 654 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 > Los Gatos, CA 95030-4360 > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/m