From colinc at exsoft.com.au Wed Jun 1 11:58:23 2005 From: colinc at exsoft.com.au (Colin Canfield) Date: Tue May 31 16:58:31 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Adding memos via applescript Message-ID: <20050531235416.M88353@exsoft.com.au> I was wondering if it is possible to create memos in the memo viewer app from Applescript or automator. It would provide a method to do a dump to palm from applications that don't support it. I have looked through the sample code on the missing sync site for what is involved in creating memos and it looks reasonably straight forward, but if it is already possible that's better! Thanks, Colin -- Colin Canfield Business Analyst Explorative Software Pty Ltd 0412 197 943 colinc@exsoft.com.au From miketall at mac.com Wed Jun 1 00:48:19 2005 From: miketall at mac.com (Mac Mike) Date: Tue May 31 20:48:27 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Backing up Voice Memo In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Janet, I have a "Voice Memo" feature on my T2; so I assume this is similar to your T3. The "Voice Memo Conduit" is supplied from PalmOne and installed during Palm Desktop and HotSync installation. When you install Missing Sync AFTER the Palm Desktop install, you will see the Voice Memo Conduit in the Missing Sync lineup. If the conduit is enabled, you will find all voice memos synced to an application in your 'Applications/Palm/' folder titled "Voice Memo". The icon looks like a microphone. I have not found any way to install the application without also installing the Palm Desktop, though you never need to open Palm Desktop to open the Voice Memo app. I may have misunderstood your question. If your question was more directed at exactly where are the voice memo sound bites stored or backed-up, then mine can be found in 'Documents/Palm/Users/USERNAME/Voice Memo/Sounds'. Each recording is stored as an individual WAV file. The DAT & BAK file I have are not nearly large enough to contain a backup of all the voice files. I'm guessing that it just contains info about each recordings. Good Luck, Michael Tall Visual Caf? Inc. On 5/31/05 10:20 PM, "Janet Chesne" wrote: > I have a Palm T-3, MS 4.0.4 and OSX 10.3.8. My question is: where does > Voice Memo get backed up - or does it? I have a folder in my User folder > called "Voice Memo" within which is a file called "Voice Memo.dat." When it > is clicked open it turns out to be the original Welcome to Note Pad memo. > In the "Note Pad" folder is the same file but it is called "Note Pad.dat." > I could find no mention of Voice Memo in the User Guide nor on the > Mark/Space Website. The Voice Memo conduit is checked and the log says "OK > Voice Memo." > > So - are voice memos backed up anywhere? Or does everyone with a T-3 have a > fake "Voice Memo.dat"? > > Jan Chesne From lesh at juvamedical.com Wed Jun 1 08:56:19 2005 From: lesh at juvamedical.com (Michael D. Lesh, MD) Date: Wed Jun 1 07:56:27 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Cant sync with 4.0.5 Message-ID: <48C69C07-3EA2-40EF-9B5C-938C53FC75D2@juvamedical.com> Have upgraded to 4.0.5, now cant sync. Using Tiger. With Sync, Treo 650 connects as usual (via blue tooth in my case), but quickly gives me an "operation complete", but nothing happens with MS. What's up with this, and is there any way to go back to 4.0.4, which did work pretty well. Michael From geoff.arnold at gmail.com Wed Jun 1 16:28:06 2005 From: geoff.arnold at gmail.com (Geoff Arnold) Date: Wed Jun 1 12:28:12 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Cant sync with 4.0.5 In-Reply-To: <48C69C07-3EA2-40EF-9B5C-938C53FC75D2@juvamedical.com> References: <48C69C07-3EA2-40EF-9B5C-938C53FC75D2@juvamedical.com> Message-ID: <5f70f0980506011228950bee4@mail.gmail.com> On 6/1/05, Michael D. Lesh, MD wrote: > > Have upgraded to 4.0.5, now cant sync. Using Tiger. > With Sync, Treo 650 connects as usual (via blue tooth in my case), > but quickly gives me an "operation complete", but nothing happens > with MS. Same configuration, same problem, even if I trim active conduits down to "Memo" and "Install" - I can't even install the updated PRC for Missing Sync. Multiple attempts usually results in Missing Sync crashing (invoking the Crash Reporter). Bug filed; no response so far. From sgruby at markspace.com Wed Jun 1 14:46:15 2005 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Wed Jun 1 13:46:25 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Cant sync with 4.0.5 In-Reply-To: <5f70f0980506011228950bee4@mail.gmail.com> References: <48C69C07-3EA2-40EF-9B5C-938C53FC75D2@juvamedical.com> <5f70f0980506011228950bee4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <0B0E227B-7EC5-414A-8771-05E93A09F193@markspace.com> On Jun 1, 2005, at 12:28 PM, Geoff Arnold wrote: > On 6/1/05, Michael D. Lesh, MD wrote: > >> >> Have upgraded to 4.0.5, now cant sync. Using Tiger. >> With Sync, Treo 650 connects as usual (via blue tooth in my case), >> but quickly gives me an "operation complete", but nothing happens >> with MS. >> > > > > Same configuration, same problem, even if I trim active conduits > down to > "Memo" and "Install" - I can't even install the updated PRC for > Missing > Sync. Multiple attempts usually results in Missing Sync crashing > (invoking > the Crash Reporter). Bug filed; no response so far. Please make sure you contact support and don't rely on the report you filed with the Crash Reporter as you will probably not receive a response back from your Crash Reporter report (we read them, we just don't respond to them). -- Scott Gruby Lead Engineer Mark/Space, Inc. Please visit for assistance with Mark/Space products. From tonyburch at gmail.com Wed Jun 1 23:57:35 2005 From: tonyburch at gmail.com (Tony Burch) Date: Wed Jun 1 14:57:54 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Cant sync with 4.0.5 In-Reply-To: <48C69C07-3EA2-40EF-9B5C-938C53FC75D2@juvamedical.com> References: <48C69C07-3EA2-40EF-9B5C-938C53FC75D2@juvamedical.com> Message-ID: On 01/06/05, Michael D. Lesh, MD wrote: > Have upgraded to 4.0.5, now cant sync. Using Tiger. > With Sync, Treo 650 connects as usual (via blue tooth in my case), > but quickly gives me an "operation complete", but nothing happens > with MS. Similar with me since going to 4.0.5, except I could sync (via B/T) after (re)logging in only. Otherwise, MS would bounce three times in the dock and then quit; or it would launch and I would get an 'empty' sync. Last night I synced successfully via USB, and now all seems to be well via B/T -!? Tony From geoff.arnold at gmail.com Wed Jun 1 19:51:10 2005 From: geoff.arnold at gmail.com (Geoff Arnold) Date: Wed Jun 1 15:51:16 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Cant sync with 4.0.5 In-Reply-To: <0B0E227B-7EC5-414A-8771-05E93A09F193@markspace.com> References: <48C69C07-3EA2-40EF-9B5C-938C53FC75D2@juvamedical.com> <5f70f0980506011228950bee4@mail.gmail.com> <0B0E227B-7EC5-414A-8771-05E93A09F193@markspace.com> Message-ID: <5f70f09805060115512f2405a3@mail.gmail.com> > Please make sure you contact support and don't rely on the report you > filed with the Crash Reporter as you will probably not receive a > response back from your Crash Reporter report (we read them, we just > don't respond to them). Did both. I know how it works.... From nicolist at spy.co.uk Thu Jun 2 20:14:14 2005 From: nicolist at spy.co.uk (Nico Macdonald) Date: Thu Jun 2 11:14:32 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Will Missing Sync fix sync duplication problems? Message-ID: I have recently purchased, but not installed, Missing Sync. I have just upgraded to a Treo 650, and also upgraded from Palm Desktop 4.1 to 4.2.1 (as supplied with the device). This version installs the conduits: Contacts Conduit Calendar Conduit Memos Conduit Tasks Conduit (I have removed the older versions of these conduits.) However, I am am now finding that when I sync, using HotSync Manager, changes made in Palm Desktop are simply added as new items in each of the four basic Palm applications. However, changes made in the the four basic Palm applications on the Treo 650 are updated appropriately in Palm Desktop. (I have also found that the sync takes a long time: 10 minutes for the four basic conduits even when there are few changes.) I have tried pushing the data onto an erased Treo 650 using 'Macintosh overwrites Handheld' and just using 'Synchronise' leads to the same problem. In addition, I have deleted the old user, saving the User Data file and moving this into a new user of the same name. My understanding of Missing Sync is that it uses the same conduits as those supplied by Palm and just manages them in a more sophisticated manner. In that case I would need to get to the bottom of the current problem before installing it. However, if Missing Sync might fix the problem of duplication and slow synching I would install it right away (and avail myself of the other benefits it offers). All advice gratefully received. Nico Macdonald London, UK From miketall at mac.com Thu Jun 2 17:34:55 2005 From: miketall at mac.com (Mac Mike) Date: Thu Jun 2 13:35:06 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Will Missing Sync fix sync duplication problems? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Nico, I am not able to address most of your issues, but below are my experiences with a couple of them. > I have recently purchased, but not installed, Missing Sync. > > I have just upgraded to a Treo 650, and also upgraded from Palm Desktop 4.1 to > 4.2.1 (as supplied with the device). This version installs the conduits: I quickly opted not to use either version of Palm Desktop for Mac. I liked the version for Windows, but I just could not get comfortable with the Mac version. Unfortunately, the Mac apps (iCal & Address Book) didn't support categories, but I still switched to those for a short time. After a few month, I finally migrated over to Entourage for better compatibility with categories (this also allowed me to bypass iSync). Basically, what I'm saying is that it wasn't worth it to me to get Palm Desktop functioning. > However, I am am now finding that when I sync, using HotSync Manager, changes > made in Palm Desktop are simply added as new items in each of the four basic > Palm applications. However, changes made in the the four basic Palm > applications on the Treo 650 are updated appropriately in Palm Desktop. (I > have also found that the sync takes a long time: 10 minutes for the four basic > conduits even when there are few changes.) I can only comment on the "time to sync" here. I noticed a huge difference when switching over to Missing Sync. This is the reason I bought the product. Of course, the first sync is slow, but after that, my 10 minute syncs turned in to 1 minute syncs. The "backup" conduit was the biggest improvement for me. Missing Sync actually supplies this one if I am not mistaken. The backup conduit from Palm gave me a lot of problems besides speed issues. It seemed to remember everything I had deleted. If I reset my Palm device, the old files would automatically be put back on my Palm at the next sync. I'm glad the files were backed up, but I don't want my backup to be put automatically on the Palm device unless I am really trying to do a restore. In my limited experience with the Missing Sync backup conduit, I did not have this issue. > I have tried pushing the data onto an erased Treo 650 using 'Macintosh > overwrites Handheld' and just using 'Synchronise' leads to the same problem. > > In addition, I have deleted the old user, saving the User Data file and moving > this into a new user of the same name. > > My understanding of Missing Sync is that it uses the same conduits as those > supplied by Palm and just manages them in a more sophisticated manner. In that > case I would need to get to the bottom of the current problem before > installing it. However, if Missing Sync might fix the problem of duplication > and slow synching I would install it right away (and avail myself of the other > benefits it offers). Yes, Missing Sync will use the same conduits as HotSync has used except in a few cases where Missing Sync has redesigned the conduit. If you've already purchased Missing Sync; I'd go ahead and install it. The product is far more updated for the Mac than the Palm HotSync software. Plus, you'll get a little better support from Mark/Space in my experience. Finally, if the sync does speed up a little bit for you, at least you will be able to debug it faster :) Regards, Michael Tall Visual Caf? Inc. From jrubin at mcw.edu Thu Jun 2 22:43:01 2005 From: jrubin at mcw.edu (Jonathan M. Rubin) Date: Thu Jun 2 19:43:29 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Strange problems with 4.0.5 Message-ID: I'm running MS 4.05 & OS X 10.4.1-- 1. sometimes syncing to my T3 works fine; other times syncing won't start unless I manually open the Missing Sync app 2. Sometimes when I use the Menu Bar to open MS, the app starts then quits right away. I need to try to open it 3 or 4 times before it finally stays open. 3. Sometimes syncing fails if the Documents To Go conduit is active (v 7.006) with other conduits in the profile. If I sync DTG by itself it's fine. From sgruby at markspace.com Thu Jun 2 20:52:45 2005 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Thu Jun 2 19:52:50 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Strange problems with 4.0.5 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2E5966EC-2EAF-44EC-9979-8471DF901DF5@markspace.com> On Jun 2, 2005, at 7:43 PM, Jonathan M. Rubin wrote: > I'm running MS 4.05 & OS X 10.4.1-- > 1. sometimes syncing to my T3 works fine; other times syncing won't > start > unless I manually open the Missing Sync app > 2. Sometimes when I use the Menu Bar to open MS, the app starts > then quits > right away. I need to try to open it 3 or 4 times before it finally > stays > open. > 3. Sometimes syncing fails if the Documents To Go conduit is active (v > 7.006) with other conduits in the profile. If I sync DTG by itself > it's > fine. You might want to check out the other threads about Missing Sync launching and then quitting very quickly. It's related to bugs in the Documents To Go conduit. If the conduit is installed, you could see the behaviors you describe in #1 and #2 above. Even if you disable Documents To Go, you could still see the problem. You must remove Documents To Go from the Conduits folder to completely eliminate these issues. DataViz has been contacted about issues with their conduit (they seem to be worse with Tiger), but I've not heard anything back from them. -- Scott Gruby Lead Engineer Mark/Space, Inc. Please visit for assistance with Mark/Space products. From martin.muntenbruch at gmx.de Fri Jun 3 03:03:41 2005 From: martin.muntenbruch at gmx.de (Martin Muntenbruch) Date: Fri Jun 3 02:04:28 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Strange problems with 4.0.5 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > the app starts then quits right away There's an interesting article on Apple's discussions board about this: http://discussions.info.apple.com/webx?50@501.ve3oavbd1Px.48775@.68a41845.68 a40f12 Although the article deals with Panther it could be an additional source of information. Martin From pcfe at pcfe.net Fri Jun 3 15:46:49 2005 From: pcfe at pcfe.net (Patrick C. F. Ernzer) Date: Fri Jun 3 04:46:57 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] RFE: AvantGo plugin Message-ID: <82D84D4F5BCBAB83C22C189C@a84-231-4-164.elisa-laajakaista.fi> Hello, the SyncMAL plugin for jpilot[1] I use on my Linux boxes has a feature I would like to see on the MS plugin for AvantGo as well. It allows to select the frequency at which it is run. Choices are: Every Sync Hourly Morning & afternoon Daily Disabled This allows for frequent syncs without having to wait for the AvantGo sync each time, or worse without getting temporarily locked out of AvantGo. Would you consider adding such a feature? Kind regards, Patrick Ernzer [1] -- ---------------------- http://www.pcfe.net/ ---------------------- Patrick C. F. Ernzer | e-mail: pcfe@pcfe.net -go-and-make-your-own-disclaimer-+-------------------------------- Some people assert that many hackers have a mild form of autism or Asperger's Syndrome, and are actually missing some of the brain circuitry that lubricates `normal' human social interaction. This may or may not be true. -- How To Ask Questions The Smart Way by Eric Steven Raymond From sgruby at markspace.com Fri Jun 3 09:04:15 2005 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Fri Jun 3 08:04:19 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] RFE: AvantGo plugin In-Reply-To: <82D84D4F5BCBAB83C22C189C@a84-231-4-164.elisa-laajakaista.fi> References: <82D84D4F5BCBAB83C22C189C@a84-231-4-164.elisa-laajakaista.fi> Message-ID: On Jun 3, 2005, at 4:46 AM, Patrick C. F. Ernzer wrote: > Hello, > > the SyncMAL plugin for jpilot[1] I use on my Linux boxes has a > feature I would like to see on the MS plugin for AvantGo as well. > > It allows to select the frequency at which it is run. Choices are: > Every Sync > Hourly > Morning & afternoon > Daily > Disabled > > This allows for frequent syncs without having to wait for the > AvantGo sync each time, or worse without getting temporarily locked > out of AvantGo. > > Would you consider adding such a feature? > Since the synchronization is initiated from the handheld and not the desktop, I'm not sure how this is even possible. Maybe in the Linux world, the connection to the handheld is not closed automatically. While we have no plans ourselves to do this, some developer can take the AvantGo Conduit source code (it is published on our website) and modify it and/or write an application on the handheld which initiates a sync periodically. -- Scott Gruby Lead Engineer Mark/Space, Inc. Please visit for assistance with Mark/Space products. From bobharrisskiing at gmail.com Fri Jun 3 16:25:47 2005 From: bobharrisskiing at gmail.com (Bob Harris) Date: Fri Jun 3 12:25:52 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: Will Missing Sync fix sync duplication problems? Message-ID: <95067fba0506031225416da153@mail.gmail.com> With respect to getting duplicate entries, I have found that if when I delete an entry on my PDA, if I say "Save archive coy on PC", that I stopped getting duplicates. Now I started doing this a few years ago, even before I started using MissingSync, so I do not know if the root cause of duplicates was solved along the way. I offer this for whatever it is worth. Bob Harris Sony CLIE TH55 -> MissingSync 4.0.4 -> iBook G4/1GHz Mac OS X 10.3.9 From sgruby at markspace.com Fri Jun 3 17:25:12 2005 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Fri Jun 3 16:25:53 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] RFE: AvantGo plugin In-Reply-To: <82D84D4F5BCBAB83C22C189C@a84-231-4-164.elisa-laajakaista.fi> References: <82D84D4F5BCBAB83C22C189C@a84-231-4-164.elisa-laajakaista.fi> Message-ID: On Jun 3, 2005, at 4:46 AM, Patrick C. F. Ernzer wrote: > Hello, > > the SyncMAL plugin for jpilot[1] I use on my Linux boxes has a > feature I would like to see on the MS plugin for AvantGo as well. > > It allows to select the frequency at which it is run. Choices are: > Every Sync > Hourly > Morning & afternoon > Daily > Disabled > > This allows for frequent syncs without having to wait for the > AvantGo sync each time, or worse without getting temporarily locked > out of AvantGo. > > Would you consider adding such a feature? > > Kind regards, > > Patrick Ernzer > [1] > -- After re-reading this message and discussing it with Brian Hall, it looks like I misinterpreted your message. We'll definitely consider it for a future release where we limit a conduit to running every so often. We have to think about this more and figure it how it can best be presented to the user. Thanks for the suggestion! -- Scott Gruby Lead Engineer Mark/Space, Inc. Please visit for assistance with Mark/Space products. From sasami20 at earthlink.net Sat Jun 4 02:06:40 2005 From: sasami20 at earthlink.net (Erika Narimatsu) Date: Sat Jun 4 01:06:46 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] palm desktop software for Clie PEG-TJ27 Message-ID: <8252055C-671E-453F-923C-26107935005D@earthlink.net> I recently got a new G5 and trying to get everything set as it was on my G3. However, I'm not the neatest person in the world and I lost the installation CD that came with my Clie. It has the Clie version of the Palm Desktop software on it and Sony's site doesn't support Macintoshes anymore :( Does anyone know if I can download a version of Palm Desktop software from Palm's site that would work with my Clie? Or can I just use MissingSync for Palm OS to sync iCal and Address Book, and if so, how? I've been searching all over and I can't find a darn thing :( Help me, please. Thanks! -Erika From dneil at markspace.com Sat Jun 4 11:12:13 2005 From: dneil at markspace.com (David Neil) Date: Sat Jun 4 07:12:29 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] palm desktop software for Clie PEG-TJ27 In-Reply-To: <8252055C-671E-453F-923C-26107935005D@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Erika, With Missing Sync for Palm OS you do not need Palm Desktop at all. Your device is supported as shown at: http://www.markspace.com/missingsync_palmos_devs.html You will be able to sync with iCal and Address Book, you will just need to install the iSync conduit and enable it. If the documentation that comes with Missing Sync doesn't answer your questions you can go to: http://www.markspace.com/support Or email support@markspace.com Dave Neil Technical Support Mark/Space, Inc. On 6/4/05 4:06 AM, "Erika Narimatsu" wrote: > I recently got a new G5 and trying to get everything set as it was on > my G3. However, I'm not the neatest person in the world and I lost > the installation CD that came with my Clie. It has the Clie version > of the Palm Desktop software on it and Sony's site doesn't support > Macintoshes anymore :( Does anyone know if I can download a version > of Palm Desktop software from Palm's site that would work with my > Clie? Or can I just use MissingSync for Palm OS to sync iCal and > Address Book, and if so, how? I've been searching all over and I > can't find a darn thing :( Help me, please. Thanks! > > -Erika > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk From eevanson at sprintmail.com Sat Jun 4 11:37:04 2005 From: eevanson at sprintmail.com (Evan Evanson) Date: Sat Jun 4 08:37:30 2005 Subject: Re(2): [missing-sync-palmos-talk] palm desktop software for Clie PEG-TJ27 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20050604163704.5605@smtpauth.earthlink.net> On 9:12 CST, Sat, Jun 4, 2005, David Neil wrote: >With Missing Sync for Palm OS you do not need Palm Desktop at all. Unless you like having categories, and you prefer having one integrated suite that handles Calendar items, ToDo lists, Contacts, and Memos. If you've been using Palm Desktop, and are happy with that (as you can guess, I have been all the way from a Palm III to a Cli? NX70), simply install the latest version of Palm Desktop downloaded from Palm's site, then install Missing Sync. Missing Sync will take over all the syncing between your Cli? and the Palm Desktop program. There will be some confusion as to which Memo conduit to use, as Palm has released two different Memo applications, and Missing Sync has its own for people who use the Apple apps (Apple doesn't have a memo app that syncs w/ Palm devices). On my Cli?, I use the conduit called "Memo Pad", not "Memo" or "Memos". It's probably the same for you, but I wouldn't bet my own money on it; it's a pretty murky issue. Evan Evanson -- Aibohphobia: The fear of palindromes From sasami20 at earthlink.net Sat Jun 4 10:58:39 2005 From: sasami20 at earthlink.net (Erika Narimatsu) Date: Sat Jun 4 09:58:54 2005 Subject: Re(2): [missing-sync-palmos-talk] palm desktop software for Clie PEG-TJ27 In-Reply-To: <20050604163704.5605@smtpauth.earthlink.net> References: <20050604163704.5605@smtpauth.earthlink.net> Message-ID: I'm not exactly sure how the set up was like on my old computer, but I can't seem to add my Clie as a device in iSync on my new computer. I can't sync iCal, my To Do list or Address Book. This is the error I get when I sync: ?OK Install ?6/4/05 9:52 AM iSync Conduit starting ?6/4/05 9:52 AM Couldn't open users file /Users/erikanar/Library/ Application Support/SyncServices/Local/Compat/PalmConfiguration.txt, skipping iSync ?OK iSync Conduit ?OK Note Pad ?TimeCopy: host 2005/06/04 09:52:03, palm 2005/06/04 09:51:48, diff: 15s ?OK TimeCopy ?OK Voice Memo ?Media did nothing ?OK Install ? Backed up DatebookDB.pdb ? Backed up Saved Preferences.prc ?OK Backup ?Sync completed successfully at 6/4/05 9:52 AM (09:52:06) Any advice? -Erika On Jun 4, 2005, at 8:37 AM, Evan Evanson wrote: > On 9:12 CST, Sat, Jun 4, 2005, David Neil wrote: > > >> With Missing Sync for Palm OS you do not need Palm Desktop at all. >> > > Unless you like having categories, and you prefer having one > integrated > suite that handles Calendar items, ToDo lists, Contacts, and Memos. > > If you've been using Palm Desktop, and are happy with that (as you can > guess, I have been all the way from a Palm III to a Cli? NX70), > simply > install the latest version of Palm Desktop downloaded from Palm's > site, > then install Missing Sync. Missing Sync will take over all the syncing > between your Cli? and the Palm Desktop program. There will be some > confusion as to which Memo conduit to use, as Palm has released two > different Memo applications, and Missing Sync has its own for > people who > use the Apple apps (Apple doesn't have a memo app that syncs w/ Palm > devices). On my Cli?, I use the conduit called "Memo Pad", not > "Memo" or > "Memos". It's probably the same for you, but I wouldn't bet my own > money > on it; it's a pretty murky issue. > > Evan Evanson > > -- > Aibohphobia: The fear of palindromes > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives > can be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > From sasami20 at earthlink.net Sat Jun 4 11:02:29 2005 From: sasami20 at earthlink.net (Erika Narimatsu) Date: Sat Jun 4 10:02:33 2005 Subject: Re(2): [missing-sync-palmos-talk] palm desktop software for Clie PEG-TJ27 In-Reply-To: References: <20050604163704.5605@smtpauth.earthlink.net> Message-ID: Please ignore the previous message. I got it work (it was in the Settings menu in Missing Sync panel). Thanks for all the help ^_^ -Erika On Jun 4, 2005, at 9:58 AM, Erika Narimatsu wrote: > I'm not exactly sure how the set up was like on my old computer, > but I can't seem to add my Clie as a device in iSync on my new > computer. I can't sync iCal, my To Do list or Address Book. This is > the error I get when I sync: > > > > OK Install > 6/4/05 9:52 AM iSync Conduit starting > 6/4/05 9:52 AM Couldn't open users file /Users/erikanar/Library/ > Application Support/SyncServices/Local/Compat/ > PalmConfiguration.txt, skipping iSync > OK iSync Conduit > OK Note Pad > TimeCopy: host 2005/06/04 09:52:03, palm 2005/06/04 09:51:48, diff: > 15s > OK TimeCopy > OK Voice Memo > Media did nothing > OK Install > Backed up DatebookDB.pdb > Backed up Saved Preferences.prc > OK Backup > Sync completed successfully at 6/4/05 9:52 AM (09:52:06) > > > Any advice? > > -Erika > > On Jun 4, 2005, at 8:37 AM, Evan Evanson wrote: > > >> On 9:12 CST, Sat, Jun 4, 2005, David Neil wrote: >> >> >> >>> With Missing Sync for Palm OS you do not need Palm Desktop at all. >>> >>> >> >> Unless you like having categories, and you prefer having one >> integrated >> suite that handles Calendar items, ToDo lists, Contacts, and Memos. >> >> If you've been using Palm Desktop, and are happy with that (as you >> can >> guess, I have been all the way from a Palm III to a Cli? NX70), >> simply >> install the latest version of Palm Desktop downloaded from Palm's >> site, >> then install Missing Sync. Missing Sync will take over all the >> syncing >> between your Cli? and the Palm Desktop program. There will be some >> confusion as to which Memo conduit to use, as Palm has released two >> different Memo applications, and Missing Sync has its own for >> people who >> use the Apple apps (Apple doesn't have a memo app that syncs w/ Palm >> devices). On my Cli?, I use the conduit called "Memo Pad", not >> "Memo" or >> "Memos". It's probably the same for you, but I wouldn't bet my own >> money >> on it; it's a pretty murky issue. >> >> Evan Evanson >> >> -- >> Aibohphobia: The fear of palindromes >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives >> can be found at: >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives > can be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > From wyoung at neurome.com Sat Jun 4 11:34:02 2005 From: wyoung at neurome.com (Warren Young) Date: Sat Jun 4 10:34:10 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Lost ability to iSync on Treo 650 and Tiger Message-ID: With doing nothing other than letting a day go by, Missinc Sync 4.0.5 (63), iSync (2.0), Tiger (10.4.1), or something decided that today I would not be allowed to sync (actually reset) my iCal (2.0.1 (1029)) and AddressBook (4.0.1 (472)) contacts to my Treo 650. I don't sync because of duplicate records problem, and force a new clean copy onto my Treo. I've done this maybe 3 times successfully since I got my Treo a week ago. Not today. Here's the log: Sync starting at 6/4/05 9:36 AM (09:36:35) on USB ?6/4/05 9:36 AM iSync Conduit starting ?6/4/05 9:36 AM SyncOpenDB returned 16388 for database AddressDB, creating a new database ?6/4/05 9:36 AM Warning: Could not create database AddressDB (return code 16395), ignoring database ?6/4/05 9:36 AM iSync Conduit: Got back NULL from rendezvous for request BladeGetAllRecords ?6/4/05 9:36 AM iSync Conduit: Sending Error Response 1: iSync Conduit: Could not find database AddressDB ?6/4/05 9:36 AM iSync Conduit: received NULL message, disconnecting... ?OK iSync Conduit ?Sync completed successfully at 6/4/05 9:36 AM (09:36:37) I've rebooted Mac, soft rebooted Treo and nothing! iSync reset device, iSync reset history, slow synchronization, clear device, sync device - nothing works. iSync just continues to report the same problem above with the database errors. I can do other conduit tasks, like backing up, etc. And yes, I remove Documents to Go (Command Delete from Missing Sync - did not do a full uninstall). I don't want to hard reset my Treo, even though that may be the last resort. I've got so many phone settings and not sure if the PalmOS backups have those configurations. And I would really like to know why there is so many problems with syncing. I have never had any problems with my Tungsten C and Palm Desktop. Many have said iSync is great, but it is so problematic for me. If AddressBook, iCal and integration with Apple Mail weren't so good, I'd go back to Now Up To Date or even Palm Desktop. Any help from anyone would be appreciated. Thanks, Warren From wyoung at neurome.com Sat Jun 4 12:34:44 2005 From: wyoung at neurome.com (Warren Young) Date: Sat Jun 4 11:34:51 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Lost ability to iSync on Treo 650 and Tiger In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0E6D3C5F-17AD-48AD-9431-675A28D1FC9E@neurome.com> I think I have it figured out. It was Wireless Sync that disabled other conduits from syncing (like iSync). Helps to read the log on the hot sync side of the Treo where it actually said just that. Verizon/Windows does it again to Mac users. Wireless Sync and their Mail program is horrible, never mind that they do not support the Mac. I do remember last night accidentally launching Wireless Sync and seeing it do lots of things before I could cancel it. It's mind- boggling. On that note, is it possible for us Mac users to simply remove it using Delete Applications? Both Wireless Sync and Mail? Or would that pose other problems? I obviously use VersaMail with absolutely no problems. Thanks, Warren On Jun 4, 2005, at 10:34 AM, Warren Young wrote: > With doing nothing other than letting a day go by, Missinc Sync > 4.0.5 (63), iSync (2.0), Tiger (10.4.1), or something decided that > today I would not be allowed to sync (actually reset) my iCal > (2.0.1 (1029))and AddressBook (4.0.1 (472)) contacts to my Treo > 650. I don't sync because of duplicate records problem, and force > a new clean copy onto my Treo. I've done this maybe 3 times > successfully since I got my Treo a week ago. Not today. Here's > the log: > > Sync starting at 6/4/05 9:36 AM (09:36:35) on USB > 6/4/05 9:36 AM iSync Conduit starting > 6/4/05 9:36 AM SyncOpenDB returned 16388 for database AddressDB, > creating a new database > 6/4/05 9:36 AM Warning: Could not create database AddressDB (return > code 16395), ignoring database > 6/4/05 9:36 AM iSync Conduit: Got back NULL from rendezvous for > request BladeGetAllRecords > 6/4/05 9:36 AM iSync Conduit: Sending Error Response 1: iSync > Conduit: Could not find database AddressDB > 6/4/05 9:36 AM iSync Conduit: received NULL message, disconnecting... > OK iSync Conduit > Sync completed successfully at 6/4/05 9:36 AM (09:36:37) > > I've rebooted Mac, soft rebooted Treo and nothing! iSync reset > device, iSync reset history, slow synchronization, clear device, > sync device - nothing works. iSync just continues to report the > same problem above with the database errors. I can do other conduit > tasks, like backing up, etc. And yes, I remove Documents to Go > (Command Delete from Missing Sync - did not do a full uninstall). > > I don't want to hard reset my Treo, even though that may be the > last resort. I've got so many phone settings and not sure if the > PalmOS backups have those configurations. And I would really like > to know why there is so many problems with syncing. I have never > had any problems with my Tungsten C and Palm Desktop. Many have > said iSync is great, but it is so problematic for me. If > AddressBook, iCal and integration with Apple Mail weren't so good, > I'd go back to Now Up To Date or even Palm Desktop. > > Any help from anyone would be appreciated. > > Thanks, > > Warren > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives > can be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > From bobwilliams at knology.net Sat Jun 4 20:01:19 2005 From: bobwilliams at knology.net (Robert Williams) Date: Sat Jun 4 17:01:28 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Question for the list - Entourage-iSync Message-ID: This just came to me in a flash of brilliance (or extreme stupidity - you decide :-) My family uses Entourage and I sync with my TREO using the Entourage conduit. This works for me Our kids are growing up however, my daughter has activities as does my son, My wife and I are professionals and need to know each others business calendars as well as personal ones. One seemingly perfect solution is iCal - since we are all on Macs. Use iCal and share calendars - how cool could THAT be?! Neither of our kids really use entourage as a full fledged PIM, so it would be very easy to get them on iCal. They don't have PDAs so they are not a problem. My wife uses a Zire 71 and syncs to her Powerbook she uses Entourage and does not want to change. So it came to me... Why couldn't my wife and I enable the iSync conduit and have our iApps populated (and synced!) with our Entourage calendar/addresses/ToDo list. Is this a bad thing to do? Also, is there any way we can order the sync so that the iApps are the First to sync so that everything gets transferred to Entourage? -- TIA, Robert From miketall at mac.com Sat Jun 4 21:30:45 2005 From: miketall at mac.com (Mac Mike) Date: Sat Jun 4 17:30:55 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Question for the list - Entourage-iSync In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Robert, > Why couldn't my wife and I enable the iSync conduit and have our iApps > populated (and synced!) with our Entourage calendar/addresses/ToDo list. By itself, iSync does not work directly with Entourage. I mentioned e2Sync in a previous post which does just this function via iSync, but I had problems with it early on. Others have had better experience than myself. With that said, I think you are really talking about using iSync in combination with Missing Sync and the Entourage conduit (all at the same time). It just won't reliably work. First of all, Missing sync will not allow you to sync to more than one of the same type of PIM. For example, if you are using the Entourage conduit & iSync Palm conduit, the Missing Sync software will not enable this sync by default because it is considered a "conduit conflict". You can get around this and bypass "conduit conflicts", but it is not suggested. In most cases, you'll end up with duplicates, deleted entries, and other unknown issues. Stick with one desktop calendar, one desktop address book, one desktop task list, etc. if you want to make it easy. > Is this a bad thing to do? This would be a great feature to have, but I haven't yet found a conduit manager (HotSync, Missing Sync) that has the ability to handle multiple conduits for the same PIM. Maybe someday, iSync will be able to handle this type of thing in a better fashion. There are ways to do it, but it gets more complicated. Paul Berkowitz' scripts are a great way to keep your Entourage and iCal/Address Book apps synced every night. They provide a nice disconnect between the Missing Sync app and the iSync app. But expect it to take at least a few hours (if not the whole day) to get it all set up and running with no kinks. > Also, is there any way we can order the sync so that the iApps are the First > to sync so that everything gets transferred to Entourage? ???? Maybe someone else in the discussion group can help here. I really don't know if re-ordering the conduits can force a certain order in the sync. And truthfully, I don't think that will help in this particular issue that you are trying to solve. Regards, Michael Tall Visual Caf? Inc. From lists at tntluoma.com Sun Jun 5 10:53:24 2005 From: lists at tntluoma.com (Timothy Luoma) Date: Sun Jun 5 06:53:35 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] workaround for not-syncing issue Message-ID: This happened under Panther and Tiger. I often get PPP timeouts when trying to sync my Treo600 over MS (network sync and/or using SnapperMail with my computer's internet connection). When it happens, I unplug the USB cable from the Treo, THEN start the sync (on the Treo side), then immediately plug it in. That seems to make the connection start nearly 100% of the time. TjL From amcutting at yahoo.co.uk Sun Jun 5 16:27:16 2005 From: amcutting at yahoo.co.uk (Alastair Cutting) Date: Sun Jun 5 07:27:23 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Bounce, bounce, nil Message-ID: <4971539B-7E0F-4C81-B636-903F4840B784@yahoo.co.uk> Hi, I have noticed a number of times recently that on pressing the hotsync button on the cradle (Palm T3, MacOS Tiger 10.4.1), that MissingSync (4.0.5) just bounces a handful of times in the Doc before stopping, and then the sync does not take place. If I notice it, and then manually start up MS, then it all seems to kick start properly and syncs fine. Why the bounces and no-show? Alastair (Incidentally I recently upgraded to MS4, though I did not really need to, mainly to encourage folks to get on with new iSync conduits, please...) ___________________________________________________________ How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos http://uk.photos.yahoo.com From sgruby at markspace.com Sun Jun 5 08:37:02 2005 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Sun Jun 5 07:37:06 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Bounce, bounce, nil In-Reply-To: <4971539B-7E0F-4C81-B636-903F4840B784@yahoo.co.uk> References: <4971539B-7E0F-4C81-B636-903F4840B784@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: On Jun 5, 2005, at 7:27 AM, Alastair Cutting wrote: > Hi, I have noticed a number of times recently that on pressing the > hotsync button on the cradle (Palm T3, MacOS Tiger 10.4.1), that > MissingSync (4.0.5) just bounces a handful of times in the Doc > before stopping, and then the sync does not take place. > > If I notice it, and then manually start up MS, then it all seems to > kick start properly and syncs fine. > Why the bounces and no-show? > > Alastair > > (Incidentally I recently upgraded to MS4, though I did not really > need to, mainly to encourage folks to get on with new iSync > conduits, please...) > Please see: Basically, remove the Documents To Go conduit and this problem should go away. We are in contact with DataViz to try to figure out what their conduit is doing wrong to cause this issue. -- Scott Gruby Lead Engineer Mark/Space, Inc. Please visit for assistance with Mark/Space products. From markw119 at bellsouth.net Sun Jun 5 13:00:24 2005 From: markw119 at bellsouth.net (Mark Weinberg) Date: Sun Jun 5 09:00:34 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Bounce, bounce, nil In-Reply-To: References: <4971539B-7E0F-4C81-B636-903F4840B784@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: Another possibility is that you have virus protection software activated. I had this problem when I had Norton Antivirus turned on. When I turn it off, the problem goes away. On Jun 5, 2005, at 10:37 AM, Scott Gruby wrote: > > On Jun 5, 2005, at 7:27 AM, Alastair Cutting wrote: > >> Hi, I have noticed a number of times recently that on pressing the >> hotsync button on the cradle (Palm T3, MacOS Tiger 10.4.1), that >> MissingSync (4.0.5) just bounces a handful of times in the Doc before >> stopping, and then the sync does not take place. >> >> If I notice it, and then manually start up MS, then it all seems to >> kick start properly and syncs fine. >> Why the bounces and no-show? >> >> Alastair >> >> (Incidentally I recently upgraded to MS4, though I did not really >> need to, mainly to encourage folks to get on with new iSync conduits, >> please...) >> > > Please see: > > June/004891.html> > May/004750.html> > May/004718.html> > > Basically, remove the Documents To Go conduit and this problem should > go away. We are in contact with DataViz to try to figure out what > their conduit is doing wrong to cause this issue. > > > -- > Scott Gruby > Lead Engineer > Mark/Space, Inc. > > > Please visit for assistance with > Mark/Space products. > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > From amcutting at yahoo.co.uk Sun Jun 5 18:06:16 2005 From: amcutting at yahoo.co.uk (Alastair Cutting) Date: Sun Jun 5 09:06:22 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Bounce, bounce, nil In-Reply-To: References: <4971539B-7E0F-4C81-B636-903F4840B784@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: Thanks Scott - had it disabled, but that is clearly not enough... A On 5 Jun 2005, at 15:37, Scott Gruby wrote: > > On Jun 5, 2005, at 7:27 AM, Alastair Cutting wrote: > > >> Hi, I have noticed a number of times recently that on pressing the >> hotsync button on the cradle (Palm T3, MacOS Tiger 10.4.1), that >> MissingSync (4.0.5) just bounces a handful of times in the Doc >> before stopping, and then the sync does not take place. >> >> If I notice it, and then manually start up MS, then it all seems >> to kick start properly and syncs fine. >> Why the bounces and no-show? >> >> Alastair >> > > Please see: > > June/004891.html> > May/004750.html> > May/004718.html> > > Basically, remove the Documents To Go conduit and this problem > should go away. We are in contact with DataViz to try to figure out > what their conduit is doing wrong to cause this issue. > > > -- > Scott Gruby > Lead Engineer > Mark/Space, Inc. > > ___________________________________________________________ How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos http://uk.photos.yahoo.com From tonyburch at gmail.com Sun Jun 5 18:19:49 2005 From: tonyburch at gmail.com (Tony Burch) Date: Sun Jun 5 09:19:51 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Bounce, bounce, nil In-Reply-To: References: <4971539B-7E0F-4C81-B636-903F4840B784@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: On 05/06/05, Alastair Cutting wrote: > Thanks Scott - had it disabled, but that is clearly not enough... When I get the bouncies I find relogging in helps, until the next time (which is unpredictable). tony From hacker at gnu-designs.com Sun Jun 5 14:24:22 2005 From: hacker at gnu-designs.com (David A. Desrosiers) Date: Sun Jun 5 10:24:59 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Bounce, bounce, nil In-Reply-To: References: <4971539B-7E0F-4C81-B636-903F4840B784@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: > Another possibility is that you have virus protection software > activated. Wait... so the solution to broken sync, is to disable virus protection? Does anyone besides me see that as an unacceptable solution to the problem? David A. Desrosiers desrod@gnu-designs.com http://gnu-designs.com From ucgajpd at ucl.ac.uk Sun Jun 5 19:34:06 2005 From: ucgajpd at ucl.ac.uk (Jason Davies) Date: Sun Jun 5 10:34:19 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Bounce, bounce, nil In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >Wait... so the solution to broken sync, is to disable virus >protection? Does anyone besides me see that as an unacceptable >solution to the problem? dunno, but virus software is so intrusive that I refuse to run it. it messes up all kinds of things. Not sure we should be so quick to blame anyone in particular - if the virus software is the intrusive one that interrupts 'clean' code, especially. Let's face it, virus software is hardly the must-have it is on a PC - so far. And for years. From eevanson at sprintmail.com Sun Jun 5 14:42:53 2005 From: eevanson at sprintmail.com (Evan Evanson) Date: Sun Jun 5 11:43:08 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Bounce, bounce, nil In-Reply-To: References: <4971539B-7E0F-4C81-B636-903F4840B784@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: <20050605184253.14370@smtpauth.earthlink.net> On 12:24 CST, Sun, Jun 5, 2005, David A. Desrosiers wrote: > Wait... so the solution to broken sync, is to disable virus >protection? Does anyone besides me see that as an unacceptable >solution to the problem? It's of variable unacceptability, depending on your setup. Back in the Classic Mac OS days, I used to temporarily disable Virex (which was a considerably less problematic utility at the time than it is now) whenever I synced, simply because it would slow the sync down intolerably as it checked every change to every file that the sync touched. It really wasn't a problem to remember to turn it off in the Control Strip, sync, then turn it back on. Given the widespread assumption in the Mac community that running virus software isn't the necessity that it is in the M$ world (an assumption I agree with, by the way - I could probably avoid the occasional bump on the head by wearing a helmet when I walk around the house, but it seems like overkill*), I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for anti-virus software manufacturers to accommodate the needs of Missing Sync (or plain Palm Desktop) users. Evan Evanson *and besides, there are enough reasons for people to call me a dork as it is. -- "Reading is the basics for all learning." - President G.W. Bush From miked916 at mac.com Sun Jun 5 17:23:00 2005 From: miked916 at mac.com (miked916@mac.com) Date: Sun Jun 5 14:24:21 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] palm and ppc devices okay? Message-ID: <200506052124.j55LO8PD015498@mac.com> I just got a ppc device as a gift and was excited to see that missing sync had a ppc sync solution (although I still have to wait due to it's incompatibility with Tiger). Will I be able to sync my current treo 650 and my new ppc? Mike -------------------------------- Sent from my wireless Treo650 From shannon-ross at uiowa.edu Sun Jun 5 22:08:53 2005 From: shannon-ross at uiowa.edu (Shannon Ross-Sheehy) Date: Sun Jun 5 20:10:46 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re:Question for the list - Entourage-iSync In-Reply-To: <200506051739.j55Hd54k005117@penguin.markspace.com> References: <200506051739.j55Hd54k005117@penguin.markspace.com> Message-ID: <715E8070-FED7-49DA-917E-D6C30AE6CED0@uiowa.edu> Robert, I don't know if this has anything to do with what you need, but you should check out this application: iSynCal. It synchronizes iCal calendars and to do lists using file sharing, between multiple computers, or even between different profiles on the same computer. Good Luck! Shannon On Jun 5, 2005, at 12:39 PM, missing-sync-palmos-talk- request@lists.markspace.com wrote: > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2005 19:01:19 -0500 > From: Robert Williams > Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Question for the list - > Entourage-iSync > To: "The Missing Sync (Mac/Palm OS) Discussion List" > > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > This just came to me in a flash of brilliance (or extreme stupidity > - you > decide :-) > > My family uses Entourage and I sync with my TREO using the Entourage > conduit. This works for me > > Our kids are growing up however, my daughter has activities as > does my son, > My wife and I are professionals and need to know each others business > calendars as well as personal ones. > > One seemingly perfect solution is iCal - since we are all on Macs. > Use iCal > and share calendars - how cool could THAT be?! > > Neither of our kids really use entourage as a full fledged PIM, so > it would > be very easy to get them on iCal. They don't have PDAs so they are > not a > problem. > > My wife uses a Zire 71 and syncs to her Powerbook she uses > Entourage and > does not want to change. > > So it came to me... > > Why couldn't my wife and I enable the iSync conduit and have our iApps > populated (and synced!) with our Entourage calendar/addresses/ToDo > list. > > Is this a bad thing to do? > > Also, is there any way we can order the sync so that the iApps are > the First > to sync so that everything gets transferred to Entourage? > > > -- > TIA, > > Robert > ___ Shannon Ross-Sheehy University of Iowa Department of Psychology E11 Seashore Hall Iowa City, IA 52242 Lab: 319.353.2987 Email: shannon-ross@uiowa.edu Web: http://www.psychology.uiowa.edu/students/ross_sheehy From sgruby at markspace.com Mon Jun 6 15:05:29 2005 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Mon Jun 6 14:06:02 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Documents To Go 7.0060 Released Message-ID: If you're a user of Documents To Go, they have released a new version today. I believe that this version will fix the "crash" where Missing Sync starts and then quits that has recently been discussed on this list. You can download the update from DataViz: ; VersionTracker lists the update at: -- Scott Gruby Lead Engineer Mark/Space, Inc. Please visit for assistance with Mark/Space products. From amcutting at yahoo.co.uk Tue Jun 7 01:36:01 2005 From: amcutting at yahoo.co.uk (Alastair Cutting) Date: Mon Jun 6 16:36:23 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Documents To Go 7.0060 Released In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: :( Sorry Scott, I have been using 7.006 (the 'new' version) since April; it is this version that crashes. It seems to have only just recently been posted on versiontracker... Alastair On 6 Jun 2005, at 22:05, Scott Gruby wrote: > If you're a user of Documents To Go, they have released a new > version today. I believe that this version will fix the "crash" > where Missing Sync starts and then quits that has recently been > discussed on this list. > > You can download the update from DataViz: >; VersionTracker lists the update at: www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/1139> > > -- > Scott Gruby > Lead Engineer > Mark/Space, Inc. > > > Please visit for assistance > with Mark/Space products. > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives > can be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From sgruby at markspace.com Mon Jun 6 17:43:34 2005 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Mon Jun 6 16:44:00 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Documents To Go 7.0060 Released In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <041FF1B8-7A87-4E70-9629-F7E6775761C6@markspace.com> On Jun 6, 2005, at 4:36 PM, Alastair Cutting wrote: > :( > > Sorry Scott, I have been using 7.006 (the 'new' version) since > April; it is this version that crashes. > It seems to have only just recently been posted on versiontracker... > OK, thanks for letting me know. DataViz has notified me that this has been fixed and will post the fix to their support site; I mistakenly thought that this fix was 7.006. I'll test the fix that was sent to me and find out exactly where it resides on their site. > Alastair > > > On 6 Jun 2005, at 22:05, Scott Gruby wrote: > > >> If you're a user of Documents To Go, they have released a new >> version today. I believe that this version will fix the "crash" >> where Missing Sync starts and then quits that has recently been >> discussed on this list. >> >> You can download the update from DataViz: > >; VersionTracker lists the update at: > www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/1139> >> >> -- >> Scott Gruby >> Lead Engineer >> Mark/Space, Inc. >> >> >> Please visit for assistance >> with Mark/Space products. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives >> can be found at: >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk >> >> > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________Yahoo! > Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with > voicemail http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives > can be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > > -- Scott Gruby Lead Engineer Mark/Space, Inc. Please visit for assistance with Mark/Space products. From amcutting at yahoo.co.uk Tue Jun 7 02:01:06 2005 From: amcutting at yahoo.co.uk (Alastair Cutting) Date: Mon Jun 6 17:01:10 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Documents To Go 7.0060 Released In-Reply-To: <041FF1B8-7A87-4E70-9629-F7E6775761C6@markspace.com> References: <041FF1B8-7A87-4E70-9629-F7E6775761C6@markspace.com> Message-ID: To be fair, I may need to re-visit that. DTG worked for a while with MS; and then started issues. I have tried re-installing DTG 7.006 and (annoyingly, but good I suppose) it is currently working OK, and not preventing MS from operating at sync. Possibly having removed the conduit from MS, and then some time later having to re-install the full package (DTG would not start up on the Mac without a re-install) has allowed something to work again that did not before. I will keep you posted if it starts to deteriorate or if there are any further issues. Alastair On 7 Jun 2005, at 00:43, Scott Gruby wrote: > > On Jun 6, 2005, at 4:36 PM, Alastair Cutting wrote: > > >> :( >> >> Sorry Scott, I have been using 7.006 (the 'new' version) since >> April; it is this version that crashes. >> It seems to have only just recently been posted on versiontracker... >> >> > > OK, thanks for letting me know. DataViz has notified me that this > has been fixed and will post the fix to their support site; I > mistakenly thought that this fix was 7.006. I'll test the fix that > was sent to me and find out exactly where it resides on their site. ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From bobwilliams at knology.net Mon Jun 6 22:19:42 2005 From: bobwilliams at knology.net (Robert Williams) Date: Mon Jun 6 19:19:57 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Documents To Go 7.0060 Released In-Reply-To: <041FF1B8-7A87-4E70-9629-F7E6775761C6@markspace.com> Message-ID: I didn't read the whole thread before I went to Dataviz's site...Alastair is correct - no new update :-( Hope this is fixed soon - this is one of the biggie programs that make having a handheld worth it On 6/6/05 6:43 PM, "Scott Gruby" wrote: > > On Jun 6, 2005, at 4:36 PM, Alastair Cutting wrote: > >> :( >> >> Sorry Scott, I have been using 7.006 (the 'new' version) since >> April; it is this version that crashes. >> It seems to have only just recently been posted on versiontracker... >> > > OK, thanks for letting me know. DataViz has notified me that this has > been fixed and will post the fix to their support site; I mistakenly > thought that this fix was 7.006. I'll test the fix that was sent to > me and find out exactly where it resides on their site. > >> Alastair >> >> >> On 6 Jun 2005, at 22:05, Scott Gruby wrote: >> >> >>> If you're a user of Documents To Go, they have released a new >>> version today. I believe that this version will fix the "crash" >>> where Missing Sync starts and then quits that has recently been >>> discussed on this list. >>> >>> You can download the update from DataViz: >>> ; VersionTracker lists the update at: >> www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/1139> >>> >>> -- >>> Scott Gruby >>> Lead Engineer >>> Mark/Space, Inc. >>> >>> >>> Please visit for assistance >>> with Mark/Space products. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >>> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >>> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives >>> can be found at: >>> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> ___________________________________________________________Yahoo! >> Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with >> voicemail http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives >> can be found at: >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk >> >> > > > -- > Scott Gruby > Lead Engineer > Mark/Space, Inc. > > > Please visit for assistance with > Mark/Space products. > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > From bobwilliams at knology.net Mon Jun 6 22:21:55 2005 From: bobwilliams at knology.net (Robert Williams) Date: Mon Jun 6 19:21:59 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Question for the list - Entourage-iSync In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks for the tips Shannon @ Mike - they are appreciated. Mike, you are right. Probably the only thing I can hope for is something down the road in iSync I will look into Paul's solution set as well - thanks! Robert -- Sent from my TREO 650 SmartPhone On 6/4/05 7:30 PM, "Mac Mike" wrote: > Hi Robert, > > >> Why couldn't my wife and I enable the iSync conduit and have our iApps >> populated (and synced!) with our Entourage calendar/addresses/ToDo list. > > By itself, iSync does not work directly with Entourage. I mentioned e2Sync > in a previous post which does just this function via iSync, but I had > problems with it early on. Others have had better experience than myself. > > With that said, I think you are really talking about using iSync in > combination with Missing Sync and the Entourage conduit (all at the same > time). It just won't reliably work. First of all, Missing sync will not > allow you to sync to more than one of the same type of PIM. For example, if > you are using the Entourage conduit & iSync Palm conduit, the Missing Sync > software will not enable this sync by default because it is considered a > "conduit conflict". You can get around this and bypass "conduit conflicts", > but it is not suggested. In most cases, you'll end up with duplicates, > deleted entries, and other unknown issues. > > Stick with one desktop calendar, one desktop address book, one desktop task > list, etc. if you want to make it easy. > > >> Is this a bad thing to do? > > This would be a great feature to have, but I haven't yet found a conduit > manager (HotSync, Missing Sync) that has the ability to handle multiple > conduits for the same PIM. Maybe someday, iSync will be able to handle this > type of thing in a better fashion. > > There are ways to do it, but it gets more complicated. Paul Berkowitz' > scripts are a great way to keep your Entourage and iCal/Address Book apps > synced every night. They provide a nice disconnect between the Missing Sync > app and the iSync app. But expect it to take at least a few hours (if not > the whole day) to get it all set up and running with no kinks. > > >> Also, is there any way we can order the sync so that the iApps are the First >> to sync so that everything gets transferred to Entourage? > > ???? Maybe someone else in the discussion group can help here. I really > don't know if re-ordering the conduits can force a certain order in the > sync. And truthfully, I don't think that will help in this particular issue > that you are trying to solve. > > Regards, > Michael Tall > Visual Caf? Inc. > > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > From bobwilliams at knology.net Mon Jun 6 22:31:37 2005 From: bobwilliams at knology.net (Robert Williams) Date: Mon Jun 6 19:31:43 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Lost ability to iSync on Treo 650 and Tiger In-Reply-To: <0E6D3C5F-17AD-48AD-9431-675A28D1FC9E@neurome.com> Message-ID: Actually Warren, Wireless Sync is probably the BEST thing about the Verizon Service - think of Wireless Sync as a ".Mac" for your TREO (literally, since it backs up critical file info and can restore a hard resetted 650 to it's former state - a pretty cool feature if you are on the road and something BAD happens and you have to start from scratch. There IS one catch that is buried in the wireless Sync Prefs that you MUST check in order to allow you to sync with your desktop Mac: Launch wireless Sync, press the MENU button, select SETUP, Select CONNECTION SETTINGS, click on the ADVANCED button, and Check ENABLE OTHER SYNC APPS. Even though it warns that this may duplicate data, it has not happened to me yet If you are still distrustful of Wireless Sync, you can disable the various "Conduits" for wireless sync - and they are pretty extensive - if all you want is the emergency systems setting backup & mail, so be it. IMHO - having tried both Cingular & Verizon, I find that Verizon's Wireless Sync to be a much better value for the money. The fact that you have a secure site to go to for all your email & PIM data is an additional bonus - -- HTH Robert -- Sent from my TREO 650 SmartPhone On 6/4/05 1:34 PM, "Warren Young" wrote: > I think I have it figured out. It was Wireless Sync that disabled > other conduits from syncing (like iSync). Helps to read the log on > the hot sync side of the Treo where it actually said just that. > Verizon/Windows does it again to Mac users. Wireless Sync and their > Mail program is horrible, never mind that they do not support the > Mac. I do remember last night accidentally launching Wireless Sync > and seeing it do lots of things before I could cancel it. It's mind- > boggling. On that note, is it possible for us Mac users to simply > remove it using Delete Applications? Both Wireless Sync and Mail? > Or would that pose other problems? I obviously use VersaMail with > absolutely no problems. > > Thanks, > > Warren > > On Jun 4, 2005, at 10:34 AM, Warren Young wrote: > >> With doing nothing other than letting a day go by, Missinc Sync >> 4.0.5 (63), iSync (2.0), Tiger (10.4.1), or something decided that >> today I would not be allowed to sync (actually reset) my iCal >> (2.0.1 (1029))and AddressBook (4.0.1 (472)) contacts to my Treo >> 650. I don't sync because of duplicate records problem, and force >> a new clean copy onto my Treo. I've done this maybe 3 times >> successfully since I got my Treo a week ago. Not today. Here's >> the log: >> >> Sync starting at 6/4/05 9:36 AM (09:36:35) on USB >> 6/4/05 9:36 AM iSync Conduit starting >> 6/4/05 9:36 AM SyncOpenDB returned 16388 for database AddressDB, >> creating a new database >> 6/4/05 9:36 AM Warning: Could not create database AddressDB (return >> code 16395), ignoring database >> 6/4/05 9:36 AM iSync Conduit: Got back NULL from rendezvous for >> request BladeGetAllRecords >> 6/4/05 9:36 AM iSync Conduit: Sending Error Response 1: iSync >> Conduit: Could not find database AddressDB >> 6/4/05 9:36 AM iSync Conduit: received NULL message, disconnecting... >> OK iSync Conduit >> Sync completed successfully at 6/4/05 9:36 AM (09:36:37) >> >> I've rebooted Mac, soft rebooted Treo and nothing! iSync reset >> device, iSync reset history, slow synchronization, clear device, >> sync device - nothing works. iSync just continues to report the >> same problem above with the database errors. I can do other conduit >> tasks, like backing up, etc. And yes, I remove Documents to Go >> (Command Delete from Missing Sync - did not do a full uninstall). >> >> I don't want to hard reset my Treo, even though that may be the >> last resort. I've got so many phone settings and not sure if the >> PalmOS backups have those configurations. And I would really like >> to know why there is so many problems with syncing. I have never >> had any problems with my Tungsten C and Palm Desktop. Many have >> said iSync is great, but it is so problematic for me. If >> AddressBook, iCal and integration with Apple Mail weren't so good, >> I'd go back to Now Up To Date or even Palm Desktop. >> >> Any help from anyone would be appreciated. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Warren >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives >> can be found at: >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk >> > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > From wyoung at neurome.com Tue Jun 7 13:58:40 2005 From: wyoung at neurome.com (Warren Young) Date: Tue Jun 7 12:58:57 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Lost ability to iSync on Treo 650 and Tiger In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Robert, Thanks for the additional information. But, aside from backing up my Treo with Wireless Sync to Verizon's servers, will it let me have any syncing capabilities from Verizon to Macs? Unless I missed something, I don't think so. So the value is as you state - the ability to hard reset on the road and restore from Verizon. That is indeed good! But if the center of the universe for me are Mac applications - AddressBook, iCal, iSync - it doesn't add value. It is pretty frustrating. I got my Treo a week ago, and have had random success with getting it to sync via iSync. I'm aware of the various caveats this forum and others have indicated - DTG conflicts, etc. But there is just something very wrong with iSync in Tiger. I've not used it in Panther and its older version. At that time, I was using Tungsten C with Now-Up-To-Date, and before that Palm Desktop. They have NEVER given me any sync problems what-so-ever. But the sirens coming from iCal and AddressBook were too strong, so with the Treo, I also made the jump from Now-Up-To-Date to Apple's built-in products. On a Mac, the Mac apps are nearly perfect. With .Mac, it is nearly perfect. Except iSync. I've played all the games everyone mentioned, using e2Sync to sync from Mac to Entourage, using Entourage to sync to Treo, and it sort of works, but somewhere along the line of experimentation, iSync (such as e2Sync to AddressBook) fails again, and I end up with a mess (duplicate records, etc). I just can't quite figure it out, and I consider myself a very strong Mac user. It just shouldn't be this hard. Until this works flawlessly, I can't imaging anyone trusting iSync. Our time is too valuable to have to backup files for safety before a sync, or have to do silly things, like a reset of all devices every time I need new data on my Treo, let alone the other way around - Treo syncing to my Mac. On a positive note, I LOVE the Treo for what it is! Unbelievable device. SnapperMail is much better than VersaMail. Its handling of IMAP accounts is flawless and mimics usage experienced by a desktop client application. It's really a very, very nice phone/PALM device. I just wish to heck Verizon did not cripple the various Bluetooth profiles. Shades of Motorola V710 class action lawsuits again. Doesn't Verizon trust - or support - its users? And with a PALM device like a Treo, blocking OBEX is a moot point since there are so many ways to bypass their network to get files (pictures, ringtones, etc) to and from the phone. But blocking DUN profiles to me is so ridiculous. Let us use either our National Access plan or MOU for dialup from our laptops. We pay for it. Let them make some revenue from it. Phone companies want to do it all, but in the end, they prevent you from doing it all even if the technology supports it. Thanks again, Warren On Jun 6, 2005, at 7:31 PM, Robert Williams wrote: > Actually Warren, Wireless Sync is probably the BEST thing about the > Verizon > Service - think of Wireless Sync as a ".Mac" for your TREO > (literally, since > it backs up critical file info and can restore a hard resetted 650 > to it's > former state - a pretty cool feature if you are on the road and > something > BAD happens and you have to start from scratch. > > There IS one catch that is buried in the wireless Sync Prefs that > you MUST > check in order to allow you to sync with your desktop Mac: > > Launch wireless Sync, press the MENU button, select SETUP, Select > CONNECTION > SETTINGS, click on the ADVANCED button, and Check ENABLE OTHER SYNC > APPS. > > Even though it warns that this may duplicate data, it has not > happened to me > yet > > If you are still distrustful of Wireless Sync, you can disable the > various > "Conduits" for wireless sync - and they are pretty extensive - if > all you > want is the emergency systems setting backup & mail, so be it. > > IMHO - having tried both Cingular & Verizon, I find that Verizon's > Wireless > Sync to be a much better value for the money. The fact that you have a > secure site to go to for all your email & PIM data is an additional > bonus - > > > -- > HTH > > Robert > -- > Sent from my TREO 650 SmartPhone > > On 6/4/05 1:34 PM, "Warren Young" wrote: > > > >> I think I have it figured out. It was Wireless Sync that disabled >> other conduits from syncing (like iSync). Helps to read the log on >> the hot sync side of the Treo where it actually said just that. >> Verizon/Windows does it again to Mac users. Wireless Sync and their >> Mail program is horrible, never mind that they do not support the >> Mac. I do remember last night accidentally launching Wireless Sync >> and seeing it do lots of things before I could cancel it. It's mind- >> boggling. On that note, is it possible for us Mac users to simply >> remove it using Delete Applications? Both Wireless Sync and Mail? >> Or would that pose other problems? I obviously use VersaMail with >> absolutely no problems. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Warren >> >> On Jun 4, 2005, at 10:34 AM, Warren Young wrote: >> >> >> >>> With doing nothing other than letting a day go by, Missinc Sync >>> 4.0.5 (63), iSync (2.0), Tiger (10.4.1), or something decided that >>> today I would not be allowed to sync (actually reset) my iCal >>> (2.0.1 (1029))and AddressBook (4.0.1 (472)) contacts to my Treo >>> 650. I don't sync because of duplicate records problem, and force >>> a new clean copy onto my Treo. I've done this maybe 3 times >>> successfully since I got my Treo a week ago. Not today. Here's >>> the log: >>> >>> Sync starting at 6/4/05 9:36 AM (09:36:35) on USB >>> 6/4/05 9:36 AM iSync Conduit starting >>> 6/4/05 9:36 AM SyncOpenDB returned 16388 for database AddressDB, >>> creating a new database >>> 6/4/05 9:36 AM Warning: Could not create database AddressDB (return >>> code 16395), ignoring database >>> 6/4/05 9:36 AM iSync Conduit: Got back NULL from rendezvous for >>> request BladeGetAllRecords >>> 6/4/05 9:36 AM iSync Conduit: Sending Error Response 1: iSync >>> Conduit: Could not find database AddressDB >>> 6/4/05 9:36 AM iSync Conduit: received NULL message, >>> disconnecting... >>> OK iSync Conduit >>> Sync completed successfully at 6/4/05 9:36 AM (09:36:37) >>> >>> I've rebooted Mac, soft rebooted Treo and nothing! iSync reset >>> device, iSync reset history, slow synchronization, clear device, >>> sync device - nothing works. iSync just continues to report the >>> same problem above with the database errors. I can do other conduit >>> tasks, like backing up, etc. And yes, I remove Documents to Go >>> (Command Delete from Missing Sync - did not do a full uninstall). >>> >>> I don't want to hard reset my Treo, even though that may be the >>> last resort. I've got so many phone settings and not sure if the >>> PalmOS backups have those configurations. And I would really like >>> to know why there is so many problems with syncing. I have never >>> had any problems with my Tungsten C and Palm Desktop. Many have >>> said iSync is great, but it is so problematic for me. If >>> AddressBook, iCal and integration with Apple Mail weren't so good, >>> I'd go back to Now Up To Date or even Palm Desktop. >>> >>> Any help from anyone would be appreciated. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Warren >>> _______________________________________________ >>> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >>> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >>> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives >>> can be found at: >>> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk >>> >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives >> can be found >> at: >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk >> >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives > can be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > > From miked916 at mac.com Tue Jun 7 20:10:23 2005 From: miked916 at mac.com (Mike Deleon) Date: Tue Jun 7 17:10:50 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: Documents To Go 7.0060 Released In-Reply-To: <200506071913.j57JDF4m025092@penguin.markspace.com> References: <200506071913.j57JDF4m025092@penguin.markspace.com> Message-ID: <58449DA0-E260-4396-90CD-872F9D1DB337@mac.com> So There is another version besides 7.006? And that version will be posted at a later date or is still in testing? Mike On Jun 7, 2005, at 2:13 PM, missing-sync-palmos-talk- request@lists.markspace.com wrote: > OK, thanks for letting me know. DataViz has notified me that this has > been fixed and will post the fix to their support site; I mistakenly > thought that this fix was 7.006. I'll test the fix that was sent to > me and find out exactly where it resides on their site. From wmlaven at platinotype.com Wed Jun 8 11:41:08 2005 From: wmlaven at platinotype.com (William Laven) Date: Wed Jun 8 10:41:13 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Tungsten C and Missing Sync Message-ID: <0FE03B1F-37D7-4E21-93B5-AA8D87DEF4D5@platinotype.com> I'm about to go buy a Palm Tungsten C and will then buy the latest Missing Sync for Tiger. What I'm wondering is whether I can not load the Palm software at all, but only Missing Sync's conduit in order to sync my handheld with iCal and Address Book. If someone wouldn;t mind explaining what is the best way to set this up I can do a clean install of whatever is necessary for a better chance of success. Thanks, Bill ________________________________________________________ William Laven Photography, 1931 23rd Street, San Francisco, CA, 94107 415-647-9292 (voice) 415-647-9294 (fax) www.platinotype.com You can view my calendar at: http://ical.mac.com/wmlaven/ William32Laven From dneil at markspace.com Wed Jun 8 15:16:38 2005 From: dneil at markspace.com (David Neil) Date: Wed Jun 8 11:16:44 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Tungsten C and Missing Sync In-Reply-To: <0FE03B1F-37D7-4E21-93B5-AA8D87DEF4D5@platinotype.com> Message-ID: Bill, You do not need to install Palm Desktop. You can simply install Missing Sync and then to install the iSync conduit, launch iSync, click on the 'Devices' menu, and choose the option to Enable Palm OS Syncing. Once you have installed the conduit, when you open Missing Sync double click on the iSync conduit and check the box to enable iSync for the device. Now when you launch the sync, by pressing the Sync button on the cradle, Missing Sync will launch and iSync will launch and you will sync with iCal and Address Book. I hope this helps. David Neil Mark/Space, Inc. Technical Support On 6/8/05 1:41 PM, "William Laven" wrote: > I'm about to go buy a Palm Tungsten C and will then buy the latest > Missing Sync for Tiger. > > What I'm wondering is whether I can not load the Palm software at > all, but only Missing Sync's conduit in order to sync my handheld > with iCal and Address Book. If someone wouldn;t mind explaining what > is the best way to set this up I can do a clean install of whatever > is necessary for a better chance of success. > > Thanks, Bill > ________________________________________________________ > > William Laven Photography, 1931 23rd Street, San > Francisco, CA, 94107 > 415-647-9292 (voice) 415-647-9294 (fax) > www.platinotype.com > You can view my calendar at: http://ical.mac.com/wmlaven/ > William32Laven > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk From miketall at mac.com Wed Jun 8 15:42:07 2005 From: miketall at mac.com (Mac Mike) Date: Wed Jun 8 11:42:45 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Tungsten C and Missing Sync In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Bill, I will second that. No need to install the Palm Desktop if you just need to communicate with iCal & Address Book. In fact, I'd suggest not installing the Palm Desktop software so as not to confuse Missing Sync and to keep down the clutter of unused conduits. However, if you ever need to sync to any of the Palm apps, you will have to install the Palm Desktop. I have not yet found a way to install their separate apps such as "Voice Memo", "Notes", & "Memos" Mike Tall Visual Caf? Inc. On 6/8/05 2:16 PM, "David Neil" wrote: > Bill, > > You do not need to install Palm Desktop. You can simply install Missing Sync > and then to install the iSync conduit, launch iSync, click on the 'Devices' > menu, and choose the option to Enable Palm OS Syncing. > > Once you have installed the conduit, when you open Missing Sync double click > on the iSync conduit and check the box to enable iSync for the device. > > Now when you launch the sync, by pressing the Sync button on the cradle, > Missing Sync will launch and iSync will launch and you will sync with iCal > and Address Book. > > I hope this helps. > > David Neil > Mark/Space, Inc. > Technical Support > > > > On 6/8/05 1:41 PM, "William Laven" wrote: > >> I'm about to go buy a Palm Tungsten C and will then buy the latest >> Missing Sync for Tiger. >> >> What I'm wondering is whether I can not load the Palm software at >> all, but only Missing Sync's conduit in order to sync my handheld >> with iCal and Address Book. If someone wouldn;t mind explaining what >> is the best way to set this up I can do a clean install of whatever >> is necessary for a better chance of success. >> >> Thanks, Bill From ross at radonicrodgers.com Wed Jun 8 15:54:05 2005 From: ross at radonicrodgers.com (ross-radonicrodgers) Date: Wed Jun 8 11:54:25 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Tungsten C and Missing Sync In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1d6bf581fe9165dc1047e873942202f2@radonicrodgers.com> What about going back to using the Palm Desktop only from the iApps. Does Palm Desktop have to be reinstalled? I never did un-install it so it is still on my computer. On 8-Jun-05, at 2:42 PM, Mac Mike wrote: > Bill, > > I will second that. No need to install the Palm Desktop if you just > need to > communicate with iCal & Address Book. In fact, I'd suggest not > installing > the Palm Desktop software so as not to confuse Missing Sync and to > keep down > the clutter of unused conduits. > > However, if you ever need to sync to any of the Palm apps, you will > have to > install the Palm Desktop. I have not yet found a way to install their > separate apps such as "Voice Memo", "Notes", & "Memos" > > Mike Tall > Visual Caf? Inc. > > > On 6/8/05 2:16 PM, "David Neil" wrote: > >> Bill, >> >> You do not need to install Palm Desktop. You can simply install >> Missing Sync >> and then to install the iSync conduit, launch iSync, click on the >> 'Devices' >> menu, and choose the option to Enable Palm OS Syncing. >> >> Once you have installed the conduit, when you open Missing Sync >> double click >> on the iSync conduit and check the box to enable iSync for the device. >> >> Now when you launch the sync, by pressing the Sync button on the >> cradle, >> Missing Sync will launch and iSync will launch and you will sync with >> iCal >> and Address Book. >> >> I hope this helps. >> >> David Neil >> Mark/Space, Inc. >> Technical Support >> >> >> >> On 6/8/05 1:41 PM, "William Laven" wrote: >> >>> I'm about to go buy a Palm Tungsten C and will then buy the latest >>> Missing Sync for Tiger. >>> >>> What I'm wondering is whether I can not load the Palm software at >>> all, but only Missing Sync's conduit in order to sync my handheld >>> with iCal and Address Book. If someone wouldn;t mind explaining what >>> is the best way to set this up I can do a clean install of whatever >>> is necessary for a better chance of success. >>> >>> Thanks, Bill > > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > > ROSS RODGERS PRINCIPAL & CREATIVE SERVICES DIRECTOR PH: 416.695.0575 ext.333 FAX: 416.695.0576 radonicrodgersdesign+marketing T O R O N T O | N E W Y O R K | S H A N G H A I From kdelwell at cox.net Wed Jun 8 17:45:36 2005 From: kdelwell at cox.net (kdelwell@cox.net) Date: Wed Jun 8 13:45:42 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Office Notifications Entourage - No Calendar Synch Message-ID: <20050608204535.MAHP28809.lakermmtao07.cox.net@smtp.east.cox.net> I?ve recently requested support and still have not been able to resolve a situation that encountered as a result of rebuilding my database. At this point I believe this is directly related to ?office Notifications? but even when turning this off I still get the same error. Details on what I?m using: a G5 iMac (OS 10.3.9), MS Entourage (v11.1), Palm OS Treo 600 and Missing Synch (v4.05). Steps I have taken to resolve: reloaded the Entourage Conduit, soft-reset Palm, reloaded database from backup; rebuilt database; reloaded Missing Synch; upgraded Entourage to v 11.1.1; upgraded Missing Synch. I have gotten it to Sych Tasks, Contacts, and Notes; however, it will not synch my Calendar and gives me the following error messages: ?Conduit Manager has encountered a problem and needs to close? with the check box marked ?restart Conduit Manager.? Synch Log looks like this most of the time, but have also gotten error 16349: Sync starting at 6/4/05 10:03 AM (10:03:23) on USB -Syncing Calendar -An unknown error #17411 occurred -Failed Entourage Conduit (0x4403) -Sync completed successfully at 6/4/05 10:03 AM (10:03:25) After restarting I can try to rebuild the database and get this error message: ?Do you want to quit MSN Messenger and all Office Programs so that Database Utility can run?? This is puzzling since I?ve never even loaded Messenger (not that I know of) and there are no other MS programs running that I am aware of (even used Activity Monitor, but not easy to understand what?s going on there). I?ve spent a large part of two weeks in trying to resolve this to no avail. Can you please help? Kevin From miketall at mac.com Wed Jun 8 20:14:30 2005 From: miketall at mac.com (Mac Mike) Date: Wed Jun 8 16:14:56 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Tungsten C and Missing Sync In-Reply-To: <1d6bf581fe9165dc1047e873942202f2@radonicrodgers.com> Message-ID: Ross, You don't have to uninstall or reinstall Palm Desktop once it is on your system. You'll just have to enable/activate the correct conduits so that your PalmOne device now syncs to the Palm Desktop instead of the iApps. The conduits from PalmOne should still exist in your "disabled conduits" folder. For exact location, please refer to the Missing Sync knowledge base. Just drag the conduits your need from the "disabled conduits" to the "conduits" folder. Also, make sure you don't have any conflicting conduits. In other words, make sure that your are syncing to only one address book, one calendar, etc. If you are no longer using the iApps stuff, make sure you have disabled Apple's iSync Palm Conduit. NOTE: Whatever you do, do not run Palm HotSync. This may re-enable it as the sync manager, and you'll have to reinstall Missing Sync to make sure nothing got screwed up. Not a big deal, but it will save you time if you don't make that mistake. Regards, Michael Tall Visual Caf? Inc. On 6/8/05 2:54 PM, "ross-radonicrodgers" wrote: > What about going back to using the Palm Desktop only from the iApps. > Does Palm Desktop have to be reinstalled? I never did un-install it so > it is still on my computer. > > On 8-Jun-05, at 2:42 PM, Mac Mike wrote: > >> Bill, >> >> I will second that. No need to install the Palm Desktop if you just >> need to >> communicate with iCal & Address Book. In fact, I'd suggest not >> installing >> the Palm Desktop software so as not to confuse Missing Sync and to >> keep down >> the clutter of unused conduits. >> >> However, if you ever need to sync to any of the Palm apps, you will >> have to >> install the Palm Desktop. I have not yet found a way to install their >> separate apps such as "Voice Memo", "Notes", & "Memos" >> >> Mike Tall >> Visual Caf? Inc. >> >> >> On 6/8/05 2:16 PM, "David Neil" wrote: >> >>> Bill, >>> >>> You do not need to install Palm Desktop. You can simply install >>> Missing Sync >>> and then to install the iSync conduit, launch iSync, click on the >>> 'Devices' >>> menu, and choose the option to Enable Palm OS Syncing. >>> >>> Once you have installed the conduit, when you open Missing Sync >>> double click >>> on the iSync conduit and check the box to enable iSync for the device. >>> >>> Now when you launch the sync, by pressing the Sync button on the >>> cradle, >>> Missing Sync will launch and iSync will launch and you will sync with >>> iCal >>> and Address Book. >>> >>> I hope this helps. >>> >>> David Neil >>> Mark/Space, Inc. >>> Technical Support >>> >>> >>> >>> On 6/8/05 1:41 PM, "William Laven" wrote: >>> >>>> I'm about to go buy a Palm Tungsten C and will then buy the latest >>>> Missing Sync for Tiger. >>>> >>>> What I'm wondering is whether I can not load the Palm software at >>>> all, but only Missing Sync's conduit in order to sync my handheld >>>> with iCal and Address Book. If someone wouldn;t mind explaining what >>>> is the best way to set this up I can do a clean install of whatever >>>> is necessary for a better chance of success. >>>> >>>> Thanks, Bill From miketall at mac.com Wed Jun 8 20:30:28 2005 From: miketall at mac.com (Mac Mike) Date: Wed Jun 8 16:30:54 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Office Notifications Entourage - No Calendar Synch In-Reply-To: <20050608204535.MAHP28809.lakermmtao07.cox.net@smtp.east.cox.net> Message-ID: Hi Kevin, On 6/8/05 4:45 PM, "kdelwell@cox.net" wrote: > I?ve recently requested support and still have not been able to resolve a > situation that encountered as a result of rebuilding my database. At this > point I believe this is directly related to ?office Notifications? but even > when turning this off I still get the same error. > > Details on what I?m using: a G5 iMac (OS 10.3.9), MS Entourage (v11.1), Palm > OS Treo 600 and Missing Synch (v4.05). > > Steps I have taken to resolve: reloaded the Entourage Conduit, soft-reset > Palm, reloaded database from backup; rebuilt database; reloaded Missing Synch; > upgraded Entourage to v 11.1.1; upgraded Missing Synch. What PalmOne device are you using. If it is fairly new, try clicking the "newer devices" checkbox in the Entourage Conduit. I'd also try a hard reset of your PalmOne device. I had to do that on occasion when I updated a major program or the sync manager. Just make sure you have all that data backed-up. > I have gotten it to Sych Tasks, Contacts, and Notes; however, it will not > synch my Calendar and gives me the following error messages: ?Conduit Manager > has encountered a problem and needs to close? with the check box marked > ?restart Conduit Manager.? I had a few issues here with some corrupt calendar items and strange character sets. I was able to solve these problem by: (1) Forcing a sync in one direction only. Try one way, if that doesn't work, try the other way. (2) Another time, I had to delete a lot of the old crap out of my calendars. Seemed I had some multi-day appointments and things scheduled from 5 years back that caused some issues. I ended up deleting everything except the previous 3 months, and all was fine after that. > Synch Log looks like this most of the time, but have also gotten error 16349: > > Sync starting at 6/4/05 10:03 AM (10:03:23) on USB > -Syncing Calendar > -An unknown error #17411 occurred > -Failed Entourage Conduit (0x4403) > -Sync completed successfully at 6/4/05 10:03 AM (10:03:25) > > After restarting I can try to rebuild the database and get this error message: > ?Do you want to quit MSN Messenger and all Office Programs so that Database > Utility can run?? This is puzzling since I?ve never even loaded Messenger (not > that I know of) and there are no other MS programs running that I am aware of > (even used Activity Monitor, but not easy to understand what?s going on > there). I know on some of the Microsoft stuff (especially email), Messenger seems to be linked to it as well. I haven't had any issues since switching over to Mac, but I remember on the PC, both Outlook & Outlook Express will open Windows Messenger by default. It even happens when you uncheck all the boxes that tell it not to do it. There may be some type of equivalent issue when using Macs. Though I haven't seen this cause any issues in syncing for myself. -Mike Tall From eullman at markspace.com Wed Jun 8 17:42:05 2005 From: eullman at markspace.com (Eric Ullman) Date: Wed Jun 8 16:42:07 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Office Notifications Entourage - No Calendar Synch In-Reply-To: <20050608204535.MAHP28809.lakermmtao07.cox.net@smtp.east.cox.net> Message-ID: Kevin, The first thing I'd try is syncing without the calendar. That will narrow it down a lot. In The Missing Sync, double-click on the Entourage Conduit, and change the Calendar setting to Do Nothing. Then try a sync. If the sync completes, then it's a problem with some of the calendar data. If the sync fails, then it's probably something else. Let us know what the log says. Best, Eric -- Eric Ullman Director of Sales and Marketing Mark/Space, Inc. eullman@markspace.com On 6/8/05 1:45 PM, "kdelwell@cox.net" wrote: > > I?ve recently requested support and still have not been able to resolve a > situation that encountered as a result of rebuilding my database. At this > point I believe this is directly related to ?office Notifications? but even > when turning this off I still get the same error. > > Details on what I?m using: a G5 iMac (OS 10.3.9), MS Entourage (v11.1), Palm > OS Treo 600 and Missing Synch (v4.05). > > Steps I have taken to resolve: reloaded the Entourage Conduit, soft-reset > Palm, reloaded database from backup; rebuilt database; reloaded Missing Synch; > upgraded Entourage to v 11.1.1; upgraded Missing Synch. > > I have gotten it to Sych Tasks, Contacts, and Notes; however, it will not > synch my Calendar and gives me the following error messages: ?Conduit Manager > has encountered a problem and needs to close? with the check box marked > ?restart Conduit Manager.? > > Synch Log looks like this most of the time, but have also gotten error 16349: > > Sync starting at 6/4/05 10:03 AM (10:03:23) on USB > -Syncing Calendar > -An unknown error #17411 occurred > -Failed Entourage Conduit (0x4403) > -Sync completed successfully at 6/4/05 10:03 AM (10:03:25) > > After restarting I can try to rebuild the database and get this error message: > ?Do you want to quit MSN Messenger and all Office Programs so that Database > Utility can run?? This is puzzling since I?ve never even loaded Messenger (not > that I know of) and there are no other MS programs running that I am aware of > (even used Activity Monitor, but not easy to understand what?s going on > there). > > I?ve spent a large part of two weeks in trying to resolve this to no avail. > Can you please help? > > Kevin > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk From chblais at sympatico.ca Wed Jun 8 21:27:08 2005 From: chblais at sympatico.ca (Steven Dopheide) Date: Wed Jun 8 17:27:20 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Missing Sync 4.0.5, Palm Desktop & Tiger 10.4.1 Message-ID: <49E4862C-C419-4F85-B015-C771198339C7@sympatico.ca> Hello one and all! I am a new owner of a Palm E2 and am having no luck having iSync "add device" either via cable or bluetooth. I have enabled Palm OS syncing. Only 3 conduits seem to sync with my Palm (TimeCopy, Mark/ Space MemoP.., & Media). Has ANYONE had any success with combination of hardware and software? If so, how did you manage to get it working? Desperate, Duckfeet From wmlaven at platinotype.com Wed Jun 8 20:21:57 2005 From: wmlaven at platinotype.com (William Laven) Date: Wed Jun 8 19:21:59 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: Tungsten C and Missing Sync -- STILL NEED HELP In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear all, I did as David suggested, but when I went to iSync it said "To finish setting up your Palm OS device to work with iSync you need to select the iSync Hot Sync Conduit in the Hot Sync Manager." Well, I don't know where the Hot Sync Manager is. I opened Missing Sync and iSync conduit appears and I double clicked it like he said and said "Enable Palm OS," but it still doesn't sync. This is my very first sync with a new Palm Tungsten C. Should the Backup be set to "Restore from Backup" to get iCal and Address Book onto the Palm? Anything else? Bill On Jun 8, 2005, at 11:16 AM, David Neil wrote: > Bill, > > You do not need to install Palm Desktop. You can simply install > Missing Sync > and then to install the iSync conduit, launch iSync, click on the > 'Devices' > menu, and choose the option to Enable Palm OS Syncing. > > Once you have installed the conduit, when you open Missing Sync > double click > on the iSync conduit and check the box to enable iSync for the device. > > Now when you launch the sync, by pressing the Sync button on the > cradle, > Missing Sync will launch and iSync will launch and you will sync > with iCal > and Address Book. > > I hope this helps. > > David Neil > Mark/Space, Inc. > Technical Support > > > > On 6/8/05 1:41 PM, "William Laven" wrote: > > >> I'm about to go buy a Palm Tungsten C and will then buy the latest >> Missing Sync for Tiger. >> >> What I'm wondering is whether I can not load the Palm software at >> all, but only Missing Sync's conduit in order to sync my handheld >> with iCal and Address Book. If someone wouldn;t mind explaining what >> is the best way to set this up I can do a clean install of whatever >> is necessary for a better chance of success. >> >> Thanks, Bill >> ________________________________________________________ >> >> William Laven Photography, 1931 23rd Street, San >> Francisco, CA, 94107 >> 415-647-9292 (voice) 415-647-9294 (fax) >> www.platinotype.com >> You can view my calendar at: http://ical.mac.com/ >> wmlaven/ >> William32Laven >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives >> can be found >> at: >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk >> > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives > can be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > ________________________________________________________ William Laven Photography, 1931 23rd Street, San Francisco, CA, 94107 415-647-9292 (voice) 415-647-9294 (fax) www.platinotype.com You can view my calendar at: http://ical.mac.com/wmlaven/ William32Laven From miketall at mac.com Thu Jun 9 01:06:02 2005 From: miketall at mac.com (Mac Mike) Date: Wed Jun 8 21:06:12 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: Tungsten C and Missing Sync -- STILL NEED HELP In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Bill, Be careful with this warning. Any mention of "HotSync" is really referring to "Missing Sync". If you open Palm's HotSync, you might have to start all over again as this will set your default sync manager to HotSync and override Missing Sync. It sounds like you have setup the iSync Palm Conduit within Missing Sync. Have you clicked on the little picture of your PalmOne device in the iSync bar? If not, do this and make sure you have the details of this set up correctly. I have not yet used the new iSync Palm Conduit, so I'm just assuming that setup is similar to that from Panther. -Mike On 6/8/05 10:21 PM, "William Laven" wrote: > Dear all, > > I did as David suggested, but when I went to iSync it said "To finish > setting up your Palm OS device to work with iSync you need to select > the iSync Hot Sync Conduit in the Hot Sync Manager." Well, I don't > know where the Hot Sync Manager is. I opened Missing Sync and iSync > conduit appears and I double clicked it like he said and said "Enable > Palm OS," but it still doesn't sync. > > This is my very first sync with a new Palm Tungsten C. Should the > Backup be set to "Restore from Backup" to get iCal and Address Book > onto the Palm? Anything else? > > Bill > > > On Jun 8, 2005, at 11:16 AM, David Neil wrote: > >> Bill, >> >> You do not need to install Palm Desktop. You can simply install >> Missing Sync >> and then to install the iSync conduit, launch iSync, click on the >> 'Devices' >> menu, and choose the option to Enable Palm OS Syncing. >> >> Once you have installed the conduit, when you open Missing Sync >> double click >> on the iSync conduit and check the box to enable iSync for the device. >> >> Now when you launch the sync, by pressing the Sync button on the >> cradle, >> Missing Sync will launch and iSync will launch and you will sync >> with iCal >> and Address Book. >> >> I hope this helps. >> >> David Neil >> Mark/Space, Inc. >> Technical Support >> >> >> >> On 6/8/05 1:41 PM, "William Laven" wrote: >> >> >>> I'm about to go buy a Palm Tungsten C and will then buy the latest >>> Missing Sync for Tiger. >>> >>> What I'm wondering is whether I can not load the Palm software at >>> all, but only Missing Sync's conduit in order to sync my handheld >>> with iCal and Address Book. If someone wouldn;t mind explaining what >>> is the best way to set this up I can do a clean install of whatever >>> is necessary for a better chance of success. >>> >>> Thanks, Bill From dneil at markspace.com Thu Jun 9 01:13:55 2005 From: dneil at markspace.com (David Neil) Date: Wed Jun 8 21:14:00 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: Tungsten C and Missing Sync -- STILL NEED HELP In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Bill, What you should do is hard reset the device, that will get rid of the things that are there that you can't use. Then go to: /Library/Application Support/Palm HotSync/Conduits/ And find any of the Palm Desktop Conduits (which are: Address, Calendars, Contacts, Datebook, Memo, Memos, Tasks, and ToDos) and move them to: /Library/Application Support/Palm HotSync/Disabled Conduits/ In the conduits folder you should have Apple. That is the iSync conduit. After your hard reset you should launch the sync again. When you do Missing sync should ask you what device it is. I suspect that previously you had associated this device with the same name you had used for the previous device. What you need to do is make this a NEW device and assign it a new unique name. Then after that is complete you should look at Missing Sync and see the iSync conduit. As I had said previously, double click on the iSync conduit and check the box to enable iSync for the device. Now when you sync it will sync with iSync. You should NOT get anything restored from the previous device. The most important thing here is that after your hard reset you give the device a UNIQUE name. Until a sync the device will not have a device name. Thanks, David Neil Mark/Space, Inc. Technical Support On 6/8/05 10:21 PM, "William Laven" wrote: > Dear all, > > I did as David suggested, but when I went to iSync it said "To finish > setting up your Palm OS device to work with iSync you need to select > the iSync Hot Sync Conduit in the Hot Sync Manager." Well, I don't > know where the Hot Sync Manager is. I opened Missing Sync and iSync > conduit appears and I double clicked it like he said and said "Enable > Palm OS," but it still doesn't sync. > > This is my very first sync with a new Palm Tungsten C. Should the > Backup be set to "Restore from Backup" to get iCal and Address Book > onto the Palm? Anything else? > > Bill > > > On Jun 8, 2005, at 11:16 AM, David Neil wrote: > >> Bill, >> >> You do not need to install Palm Desktop. You can simply install >> Missing Sync >> and then to install the iSync conduit, launch iSync, click on the >> 'Devices' >> menu, and choose the option to Enable Palm OS Syncing. >> >> Once you have installed the conduit, when you open Missing Sync >> double click >> on the iSync conduit and check the box to enable iSync for the device. >> >> Now when you launch the sync, by pressing the Sync button on the >> cradle, >> Missing Sync will launch and iSync will launch and you will sync >> with iCal >> and Address Book. >> >> I hope this helps. >> >> David Neil >> Mark/Space, Inc. >> Technical Support >> >> >> >> On 6/8/05 1:41 PM, "William Laven" wrote: >> >> >>> I'm about to go buy a Palm Tungsten C and will then buy the latest >>> Missing Sync for Tiger. >>> >>> What I'm wondering is whether I can not load the Palm software at >>> all, but only Missing Sync's conduit in order to sync my handheld >>> with iCal and Address Book. If someone wouldn;t mind explaining what >>> is the best way to set this up I can do a clean install of whatever >>> is necessary for a better chance of success. >>> >>> Thanks, Bill >>> ________________________________________________________ >>> >>> William Laven Photography, 1931 23rd Street, San >>> Francisco, CA, 94107 >>> 415-647-9292 (voice) 415-647-9294 (fax) >>> www.platinotype.com >>> You can view my calendar at: http://ical.mac.com/ >>> wmlaven/ >>> William32Laven >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >>> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >>> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives >>> can be found >>> at: >>> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives >> can be found at: >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk >> > > ________________________________________________________ > > William Laven Photography, 1931 23rd Street, San > Francisco, CA, 94107 > 415-647-9292 (voice) 415-647-9294 (fax) > www.platinotype.com > You can view my calendar at: http://ical.mac.com/wmlaven/ > William32Laven > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk From wmlaven at platinotype.com Wed Jun 8 22:53:29 2005 From: wmlaven at platinotype.com (William Laven) Date: Wed Jun 8 21:53:31 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: Tungsten C and Missing Sync -- STILL NEED HELP In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <78D6EDE5-02A1-48BB-A88B-51A7F7A87A2B@platinotype.com> David, Did the Hard Rest and it restored everything. Whew. Then I followed the rest of the advice and it seemed to work fine. I'll be doing this often in the next couple days and checking it out, but it looks good. Thanks again for your help. Bill On Jun 8, 2005, at 9:13 PM, David Neil wrote: > Bill, > > What you should do is hard reset the device, that will get rid of > the things > that are there that you can't use. Then go to: > > /Library/Application Support/Palm HotSync/Conduits/ > > And find any of the Palm Desktop Conduits (which are: Address, > Calendars, > Contacts, Datebook, Memo, Memos, Tasks, and ToDos) and move them to: > > /Library/Application Support/Palm HotSync/Disabled Conduits/ > > In the conduits folder you should have Apple. That is the iSync > conduit. > > After your hard reset you should launch the sync again. When you do > Missing > sync should ask you what device it is. I suspect that previously > you had > associated this device with the same name you had used for the > previous > device. What you need to do is make this a NEW device and assign it > a new > unique name. > > Then after that is complete you should look at Missing Sync and see > the > iSync conduit. As I had said previously, double click on the iSync > conduit > and check the box to enable iSync for the device. > > Now when you sync it will sync with iSync. > > You should NOT get anything restored from the previous device. The > most > important thing here is that after your hard reset you give the > device a > UNIQUE name. Until a sync the device will not have a device name. > > Thanks, > > David Neil > Mark/Space, Inc. > Technical Support > > > > On 6/8/05 10:21 PM, "William Laven" wrote: > > >> Dear all, >> >> I did as David suggested, but when I went to iSync it said "To finish >> setting up your Palm OS device to work with iSync you need to select >> the iSync Hot Sync Conduit in the Hot Sync Manager." Well, I don't >> know where the Hot Sync Manager is. I opened Missing Sync and iSync >> conduit appears and I double clicked it like he said and said "Enable >> Palm OS," but it still doesn't sync. >> >> This is my very first sync with a new Palm Tungsten C. Should the >> Backup be set to "Restore from Backup" to get iCal and Address Book >> onto the Palm? Anything else? >> >> Bill >> >> >> On Jun 8, 2005, at 11:16 AM, David Neil wrote: >> >> >>> Bill, >>> >>> You do not need to install Palm Desktop. You can simply install >>> Missing Sync >>> and then to install the iSync conduit, launch iSync, click on the >>> 'Devices' >>> menu, and choose the option to Enable Palm OS Syncing. >>> >>> Once you have installed the conduit, when you open Missing Sync >>> double click >>> on the iSync conduit and check the box to enable iSync for the >>> device. >>> >>> Now when you launch the sync, by pressing the Sync button on the >>> cradle, >>> Missing Sync will launch and iSync will launch and you will sync >>> with iCal >>> and Address Book. >>> >>> I hope this helps. >>> >>> David Neil >>> Mark/Space, Inc. >>> Technical Support >>> >>> >>> >>> On 6/8/05 1:41 PM, "William Laven" wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> I'm about to go buy a Palm Tungsten C and will then buy the latest >>>> Missing Sync for Tiger. >>>> >>>> What I'm wondering is whether I can not load the Palm software at >>>> all, but only Missing Sync's conduit in order to sync my handheld >>>> with iCal and Address Book. If someone wouldn;t mind explaining >>>> what >>>> is the best way to set this up I can do a clean install of whatever >>>> is necessary for a better chance of success. >>>> >>>> Thanks, Bill >>>> >>>> ________________________________________________________ >>>> >>>> William Laven Photography, 1931 23rd Street, San >>>> Francisco, CA, 94107 >>>> 415-647-9292 (voice) 415-647-9294 (fax) >>>> www.platinotype.com >>>> You can view my calendar at: http://ical.mac.com/ >>>> wmlaven/ >>>> William32Laven >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >>>> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >>>> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives >>>> can be found >>>> at: >>>> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos- >>>> talk >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >>> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >>> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives >>> can be found at: >>> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk >>> >>> >> >> ________________________________________________________ >> >> William Laven Photography, 1931 23rd Street, San >> Francisco, CA, 94107 >> 415-647-9292 (voice) 415-647-9294 (fax) >> www.platinotype.com >> You can view my calendar at: http://ical.mac.com/ >> wmlaven/ >> William32Laven >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives >> can be found >> at: >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk >> > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives > can be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > ________________________________________________________ William Laven Photography, 1931 23rd Street, San Francisco, CA, 94107 415-647-9292 (voice) 415-647-9294 (fax) www.platinotype.com You can view my calendar at: http://ical.mac.com/wmlaven/ William32Laven From kdelwell at cox.net Thu Jun 9 07:32:35 2005 From: kdelwell at cox.net (Kevin Elwell) Date: Thu Jun 9 03:32:49 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: Office Notifications Entourage - No Calendar Synch In-Reply-To: <200506090414.j594E94l001408@penguin.markspace.com> Message-ID: That's what I'm currently doing - synching only with calendar off ("do nothing") - that works for everything else. Next I'm going to try something someone else suggested and that is put in an end-date in all of my repeating events and see if that takes away the problem. This still doesn't address the "imaginary user" issues associated with the errors I'm receiving. Any clues there? kde _________ From: Reply-To: Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 21:14:13 -0700 To: Subject: missing-sync-palmos-talk Digest, Vol 25, Issue 10 Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 16:42:05 -0700 From: Eric Ullman Subject: Re: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Office Notifications Entourage - No Calendar Synch To: missing-sync-palmos-talk Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Kevin, The first thing I'd try is syncing without the calendar. That will narrow it down a lot. In The Missing Sync, double-click on the Entourage Conduit, and change the Calendar setting to Do Nothing. Then try a sync. If the sync completes, then it's a problem with some of the calendar data. If the sync fails, then it's probably something else. Let us know what the log says. Best, Eric -- Eric Ullman Director of Sales and Marketing Mark/Space, Inc. eullman@markspace.com From elkus at clearstone.com Thu Jun 9 06:05:48 2005 From: elkus at clearstone.com (Bill Elkus) Date: Thu Jun 9 05:12:39 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Treo 650 duplicate calendar items Message-ID: I recently upgraded from a Treo 600 to a Treo 650; and ever since have been having duplicate calendar problems. If I change or delete an appointment on the Palm Desktop calendar immediately after synching, then synch again, I get an error message saying that the same appointment was modified on both the handheld and the desktop, and both appointments were restored. This is a terrible problem because if I don't catch it, I don't know which of the two appointments is the real one. This happens 100% of the time. Only way to stop it is having the desktop overwrite the handheld, but then the problem reoccurs as soon as the first appointment is changed or deleted on the desktop. Thus, true synching (being able to make changes on both platforms) does not work because the old version of each appointment is not deleted. I have verified that it is not a data corruption problem by reinstalling Palm Desktop, creating a new user at the Mac OS level (10.4.1), creating a new PalmUser with a blank calendar, hard resetting the Treo 650, creating a single calendar item on the desktop, synching to the Treo, then changing that one item and synching again. The same error occurs. I took my Treo and Powerbook to an Apple Genius bar guy who specializes in difficult Palm problems and he suggested that I purchase Missing Synch. I did. I get the identical behavior with respect to this problem as I did with the Palm synching application. ------- At the risk of confusing the issue, I want to point out that I experienced a limited version of this behavior under the Treo 600 and a prior version of PalmDesktop. It only occurred immediately after my secretary would synch my Treo 600. Her PC settings were that my handheld would overwrite her PC, and we used my Treo as a convenient way of getting my calendar from my Mac to her PC each day. Any changes I made to my desktop after she did a synch would appear as duplicates the next time I did a synch between my Mac and my Treo. However once I deleted the old version of the calendar item from my desktop and did a second synch, the errors stopped and would not start again until the next synch with a PC. Thus I could avoid the problem altogether by synching to my Mac, giving her my Treo and having her synch to her PC, and then immediately synching again to my Mac even though no appointments had changed. I highly doubt the Treo 650 duplicate items issue has anything to do with her PC because for the first week of my 600 to 650 changeover, I did not synch to her PC at all, and the duplicate items still happened all the time. From eullman at markspace.com Thu Jun 9 07:30:59 2005 From: eullman at markspace.com (Eric Ullman) Date: Thu Jun 9 06:31:03 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Missing Sync 4.0.5, Palm Desktop & Tiger 10.4.1 In-Reply-To: <49E4862C-C419-4F85-B015-C771198339C7@sympatico.ca> Message-ID: Hi Duckfeet, Palm devices are treated a little differently by iSync, due to the fact that two applications must run to complete the sync operation (iSync and The Missing Sync, in this case). After you have Enabled Palm OS Syncing in iSync, launch The Missing Sync, double-click on the iSync Conduit and check "Enable iSync for this Palm device". Your Palm device will now automatically appear in iSync, and you're ready to go. I hope this helps. Eric -- Eric Ullman Director of Sales and Marketing Mark/Space, Inc. eullman@markspace.com On 6/8/05 5:27 PM, "Steven Dopheide" wrote: > Hello one and all! > > I am a new owner of a Palm E2 and am having no luck having iSync "add > device" either via cable or bluetooth. I have enabled Palm OS > syncing. Only 3 conduits seem to sync with my Palm (TimeCopy, Mark/ > Space MemoP.., & Media). > > Has ANYONE had any success with combination of hardware and > software? If so, how did you manage to get it working? From eullman at markspace.com Thu Jun 9 07:49:37 2005 From: eullman at markspace.com (Eric Ullman) Date: Thu Jun 9 06:49:40 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: Office Notifications Entourage - No Calendar Synch In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Kevin, Your calendar items plan is a good one. As far as the imaginary user issue, where Entourage can't open your database "Kevin", I've seen at least one other person (on Microsoft's Entourage newsgroup) have that same problem. Logging out of Mac OS X and then back in used to solve that for them, but it no longer does. Are any other users logging into your Mac? Have you tried using Disk Utility to repair permissions? Eric -- Eric Ullman Director of Sales and Marketing Mark/Space, Inc. eullman@markspace.com On 6/9/05 3:32 AM, "Kevin Elwell" wrote: > That's what I'm currently doing - synching only with calendar off ("do > nothing") - that works for everything else. Next I'm going to try something > someone else suggested and that is put in an end-date in all of my repeating > events and see if that takes away the problem. > > This still doesn't address the "imaginary user" issues associated with the > errors I'm receiving. Any clues there? From wmlaven at platinotype.com Thu Jun 9 08:23:56 2005 From: wmlaven at platinotype.com (William Laven) Date: Thu Jun 9 07:24:00 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: Tungsten C and Missing Sync -- STILL PROBLEMS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: David et al, I have been able to sync, but two things happen that I need to fix. 1) In Address Book, the info synced is incomplete. For the vast majority of entries I get the person's name and email address only. Occasionally there are phone numbers, far less often the street address. How do I get all the address info (ie street address, etc) from Address Book to transfer? 2) Repeating iCal events are synced as repeat events, but if I have a 5 day long event in iCal, it only syncs over the title of the event and places it on the first day. For example, I have "Photo Conference" in iCal from Jun 15-20 and it only syncs "Photo Conference" on the first day, the 15th. How do I fix that? As noted in an earlier email, when I went to /Library/Application Support/P