From ucgajpd at ucl.ac.uk  Fri Jul  1 03:17:11 2005
From: ucgajpd at ucl.ac.uk (Jason Davies)
Date: Fri Jul  1 03:17:17 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] quick thank you..
Message-ID: <d02020009-1039-49828F9AEA1911D99590000D9358BC20@[192.168.0.100]>

for the Applescript support for setting profiles. I have to use iListen with AS a lot and selecting conduits is
mouse-intensive (ie painful). I didn't actually think of choosing sets with Applescript until yesterday and
there it was...and almost for the first time ever, the syntax was actually as straightforward as Applescript
claims to be:-)

now if only I could activate Hotsync without having to fiddle around...:-)

(OT observation in case anyone is interested: though the Lifedrive claims not to charge from the USB
cable, I left it running in disk mode for two hours yesterday and it ended up fully charged. So either it
trickle charges over the USB after all, or I'm doing something else to drain it the rest of the time...;-)

From hsmoliar at bellatlantic.net  Fri Jul  1 11:59:21 2005
From: hsmoliar at bellatlantic.net (Harold Smoliar)
Date: Fri Jul  1 11:59:47 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Transport Monitor
In-Reply-To: <BEE06A1C.DB6C%bobwilliams@knology.net>
References: <BEE06A1C.DB6C%bobwilliams@knology.net>
Message-ID: <707db084e73713160f0069bf397847de@bellatlantic.net>

So
I keep getting this error message intermittently: (I think I mostly see 
it when I quit iTunes)

The application Transport Monitor could not be launched because of a 
shared library error: 
"6<TransportMonitor><TransportMonitor><TransportLib><>"

I'm running OS X 10.3.9 on a 15" PowerBook
I have a Treo 650 (Verizon)
And of course, Missing Sync

Any ideas?
Thanks
Harold

Harold Smoliar
English horn, Pittsburgh Symphony
Piano, White Tie Group
harold@whitetiegroup.com
www.whitetiegroup.com
From tonyburch at gmail.com  Fri Jul  1 12:15:21 2005
From: tonyburch at gmail.com (Tony Burch)
Date: Fri Jul  1 12:15:24 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Transport Monitor
In-Reply-To: <707db084e73713160f0069bf397847de@bellatlantic.net>
References: <BEE06A1C.DB6C%bobwilliams@knology.net>
	<707db084e73713160f0069bf397847de@bellatlantic.net>
Message-ID: <b9eb91cf05070112155b160180@mail.gmail.com>

On 01/07/05, Harold Smoliar <hsmoliar@bellatlantic.net> wrote:
> 
> I keep getting this error message intermittently:
> 
> The application Transport Monitor 

Isn't this part of Palm HotSync and therefore not necessary with M/S?
Does something not work when you get this message?

I'm sure I deleted Transport Monitor. Nothing on a spotlight search...

Tony

From sgruby at markspace.com  Fri Jul  1 12:17:13 2005
From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby)
Date: Fri Jul  1 12:17:28 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Transport Monitor
In-Reply-To: <707db084e73713160f0069bf397847de@bellatlantic.net>
References: <BEE06A1C.DB6C%bobwilliams@knology.net>
	<707db084e73713160f0069bf397847de@bellatlantic.net>
Message-ID: <179F2DCE-ECA1-4B6F-BC97-FB1721341A3D@markspace.com>


On Jul 1, 2005, at 11:59 AM, Harold Smoliar wrote:

> So
> I keep getting this error message intermittently: (I think I mostly  
> see it when I quit iTunes)
>
> The application Transport Monitor could not be launched because of  
> a shared library error:  
> "6<TransportMonitor><TransportMonitor><TransportLib><>"
>

You have the Audible.com iTunes plugin installed. You can remove that  
plugin and/or search for Transport Monitor on your hard drive and  
remove that. Basically the audible plugin quits Palm's Transport  
Monitor when iTunes starts and then tries to relaunch it when iTunes  
quits. Transport Monitor is not necessary with Missing Sync so you  
can remove it (Missing Sync has it's own Transport Monitor, but it's  
buried in the Missing Sync application bundle).

--
Scott Gruby
Lead Engineer
Mark/Space, Inc.
<http://www.markspace.com/>

Please visit <http://www.markspace.com/support/> for assistance with  
Mark/Space products.

From sgruby at markspace.com  Fri Jul  1 12:18:10 2005
From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby)
Date: Fri Jul  1 12:18:35 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Transport Monitor
In-Reply-To: <b9eb91cf05070112155b160180@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BEE06A1C.DB6C%bobwilliams@knology.net>
	<707db084e73713160f0069bf397847de@bellatlantic.net>
	<b9eb91cf05070112155b160180@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <53FEDE59-7B18-48BA-B220-2987FD07A76A@markspace.com>


On Jul 1, 2005, at 12:15 PM, Tony Burch wrote:

> On 01/07/05, Harold Smoliar <hsmoliar@bellatlantic.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> I keep getting this error message intermittently:
>>
>> The application Transport Monitor
>>
>
> Isn't this part of Palm HotSync and therefore not necessary with M/S?

Correct.

> Does something not work when you get this message?
>

I think it's just annoying and disconcerting to see this message.




--
Scott Gruby
Lead Engineer
Mark/Space, Inc.
<http://www.markspace.com/>

Please visit <http://www.markspace.com/support/> for assistance with  
Mark/Space products.

From hsmoliar at bellatlantic.net  Fri Jul  1 13:07:41 2005
From: hsmoliar at bellatlantic.net (Harold Smoliar)
Date: Fri Jul  1 13:08:11 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Transport Monitor
In-Reply-To: <179F2DCE-ECA1-4B6F-BC97-FB1721341A3D@markspace.com>
References: <BEE06A1C.DB6C%bobwilliams@knology.net>
	<707db084e73713160f0069bf397847de@bellatlantic.net>
	<179F2DCE-ECA1-4B6F-BC97-FB1721341A3D@markspace.com>
Message-ID: <997926ddabb43424dff95efd056480a8@bellatlantic.net>



On Jul 1, 2005, at 3:17 PM, Scott Gruby wrote:

>
> On Jul 1, 2005, at 11:59 AM, Harold Smoliar wrote:
>
>> So
>> I keep getting this error message intermittently: (I think I mostly 
>> see it when I quit iTunes)
>>
>> The application Transport Monitor could not be launched because of a 
>> shared library error: 
>> "6<TransportMonitor><TransportMonitor><TransportLib><>"
>>
>
> You have the Audible.com iTunes plugin installed. You can remove that 
> plugin and/or search for Transport Monitor on your hard drive and 
> remove that. Basically the audible plugin quits Palm's Transport 
> Monitor when iTunes starts and then tries to relaunch it when iTunes 
> quits. Transport Monitor is not necessary with Missing Sync so you can 
> remove it (Missing Sync has it's own Transport Monitor, but it's 
> buried in the Missing Sync application bundle).
>
> --
> Scott Gruby
> Lead Engineer
> Mark/Space, Inc.
> <http://www.markspace.com/>

Thanks very very much
Harold
Harold Smoliar
English horn, Pittsburgh Symphony
Piano, White Tie Group
harold@whitetiegroup.com
www.whitetiegroup.com
From yahoo at motoboxer.plus.com  Fri Jul  1 15:00:45 2005
From: yahoo at motoboxer.plus.com (yahoo@motoboxer.plus.com)
Date: Fri Jul  1 15:00:53 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Categories & iCal
In-Reply-To: <C1BBC148-65E7-4445-8737-B9F2DCD0AB9E@motoboxer.plus.com>
References: <C1BBC148-65E7-4445-8737-B9F2DCD0AB9E@motoboxer.plus.com>
Message-ID: <D356FDCF-588E-4293-B48E-D88B3B8184C9@motoboxer.plus.com>

Can anyone comment on this?


On 30 Jun 2005, at 12:45, yahoo@motoboxer.plus.com wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I understand the next release of Missing Sync for PocketPC will  
> sync categories between iCal (and the Address Book?), will the  
> PalmOS MissingSync also be enabling category syncs in the Address  
> Book and iCal soon?
>
> Thanks,
> John.
>
> _______________________________________________
> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list
> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com
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From pdengler at gmail.com  Fri Jul  1 16:05:52 2005
From: pdengler at gmail.com (Pat Dengler)
Date: Fri Jul  1 16:05:28 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Transport Monitor
In-Reply-To: <179F2DCE-ECA1-4B6F-BC97-FB1721341A3D@markspace.com>
References: <BEE06A1C.DB6C%bobwilliams@knology.net>
	<707db084e73713160f0069bf397847de@bellatlantic.net>
	<179F2DCE-ECA1-4B6F-BC97-FB1721341A3D@markspace.com>
Message-ID: <BD56A79F-51E0-4D1C-9366-1C3917FEA3AF@gmail.com>

I wonder if this is related: Missing Sync will not initiate if iTunes  
is running. Once I quit iTunes...no problem.
Pat

On Jul 1, 2005, at 12:17 , Scott Gruby wrote:

>
> On Jul 1, 2005, at 11:59 AM, Harold Smoliar wrote:
>
>
>> So
>> I keep getting this error message intermittently: (I think I  
>> mostly see it when I quit iTunes)
>>
>> The application Transport Monitor could not be launched because of  
>> a shared library error:  
>> "6<TransportMonitor><TransportMonitor><TransportLib><>"
>>
>>
>
> You have the Audible.com iTunes plugin installed. You can remove  
> that plugin and/or search for Transport Monitor on your hard drive  
> and remove that. Basically the audible plugin quits Palm's  
> Transport Monitor when iTunes starts and then tries to relaunch it  
> when iTunes quits. Transport Monitor is not necessary with Missing  
> Sync so you can remove it (Missing Sync has it's own Transport  
> Monitor, but it's buried in the Missing Sync application bundle).
>
> --
> Scott Gruby
> Lead Engineer
> Mark/Space, Inc.
> <http://www.markspace.com/>
>
> Please visit <http://www.markspace.com/support/> for assistance  
> with Mark/Space products.
>
> _______________________________________________
> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list
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> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives  
> can be found at:
> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk
>

From brian_hall at markspace.com  Fri Jul  1 16:46:03 2005
From: brian_hall at markspace.com (Brian Hall)
Date: Fri Jul  1 16:46:10 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Categories & iCal
In-Reply-To: <D356FDCF-588E-4293-B48E-D88B3B8184C9@motoboxer.plus.com>
References: <C1BBC148-65E7-4445-8737-B9F2DCD0AB9E@motoboxer.plus.com>
	<D356FDCF-588E-4293-B48E-D88B3B8184C9@motoboxer.plus.com>
Message-ID: <p06210254beeb85ae7cb3@[192.168.60.86]>

>Can anyone comment on this?

We have not made any announcements regarding feature sets in unannounced
software at this time. (department of redundancy department).

We get that request alot. We take that into account when selecting feature
sets.

Note that how categories sync (on a Palm OS device) is up to the conduit.
In this case, the issue is with the Apple developed/provided iSync Palm
Conduit. Apple, or a 3rd party, could develop a conduit that does a better
job.

Brian

>
>
>On 30 Jun 2005, at 12:45, yahoo@motoboxer.plus.com wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I understand the next release of Missing Sync for PocketPC will
>> sync categories between iCal (and the Address Book?), will the
>> PalmOS MissingSync also be enabling category syncs in the Address
>> Book and iCal soon?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> John.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list
>> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com
>> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives
>> can be found at:
>> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk
>>
>
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>found at:
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From yahoo at motoboxer.plus.com  Sat Jul  2 01:07:39 2005
From: yahoo at motoboxer.plus.com (yahoo@motoboxer.plus.com)
Date: Sat Jul  2 01:07:47 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Categories & iCal
In-Reply-To: <p06210254beeb85ae7cb3@[192.168.60.86]>
References: <C1BBC148-65E7-4445-8737-B9F2DCD0AB9E@motoboxer.plus.com>
	<D356FDCF-588E-4293-B48E-D88B3B8184C9@motoboxer.plus.com>
	<p06210254beeb85ae7cb3@[192.168.60.86]>
Message-ID: <978869A9-0C25-4097-BEFC-BE88AFDE6A95@motoboxer.plus.com>


On 2 Jul 2005, at 00:46, Brian Hall wrote:

>> Can anyone comment on this?
>>
>
> We have not made any announcements regarding feature sets in  
> unannounced
> software at this time. (department of redundancy department).
>

I saw a reply to a request in the PocketPC list which said the next  
release would support category sync:

http://lists.markspace.com/pipermail/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk/2005- 
June/011851.html

 >
Ken Freeman kfreeman at markspace.com

On 6/24/05 8:34 PM, "Shane Lord" <shane at shasam.net> wrote:

 > 1. Will the new Missing Sync for Windows Mobile support syncing of
 > multiple Calendars/Categories in iCal and Address Book and mapping to
 > categories on the PocketPC?

Yes! Category synchronization is supported.

Ken
<

So I was wondering whether this feature would be implemented in the  
PalmOS version.

Cheers,
John.



From ucgajpd at ucl.ac.uk  Sat Jul  2 01:58:29 2005
From: ucgajpd at ucl.ac.uk (Jason Davies)
Date: Sat Jul  2 01:58:32 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Lifedrive drive mode
Message-ID: <d02020009-1039-757649DBEAD711D9BF76000D9358BC20@[192.168.0.100]>

Does anyone know whether I need to install something to have Drive Mode working (Missing Sync page
says to use Drive mode to mount disk)? If I install Palm  desktop again to get some driver to work, will
that affect Missing Sync's existing installation?

I'm using it on an iMac with the Palm Desktop that came with it -- and Drive Mode works, but using it
with my PB (Missing Sync) the Drive does not mount. I don't want to mess with the MS setup. Any
pointers before I begin gratefully received.

From miketall at mac.com  Sat Jul  2 06:49:25 2005
From: miketall at mac.com (Mac Mike)
Date: Sat Jul  2 06:49:33 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Categories & iCal
In-Reply-To: <978869A9-0C25-4097-BEFC-BE88AFDE6A95@motoboxer.plus.com>
Message-ID: <BEEC13A5.14FA%miketall@mac.com>

John,


>>> Can anyone comment on this?
>>> 
>> We have not made any announcements regarding feature sets in
>> unannounced
>> software at this time. (department of redundancy department).
>> 
> I saw a reply to a request in the PocketPC list which said the next
> release would support category sync:
> 
> http://lists.markspace.com/pipermail/missing-sync-pocketpc-talk/2005-
> June/011851.html

I have never used a Pocket PC with my Mac (only a PC); so forgive me if my
explanation is inadequate.

>From what can tell, "Missing Sync for Palm OS" & "Missing Sync for PocketPC"
are completely different animals.  The PocketPC version appears to be just a
plugin (conduit) for iSync, while the Palm version is an entire program
independent of iSync.  The only way the Palm OS version can sync with iCal &
Address Book is through the conduit provided by Apple (hence the category
limitation).


>> 1. Will the new Missing Sync for Windows Mobile support syncing of
>> multiple Calendars/Categories in iCal and Address Book and mapping to
>> categories on the PocketPC?
> 
> Yes! Category synchronization is supported.
> 
> So I was wondering whether this feature would be implemented in the
> PalmOS version.

I know it is something that Missing Sync has on their brain.  If they can
get it to work 100% reliably with little effort, then I'm sure they will
provide this conduit.  However, that is not for what Missing Sync was
designed.  Missing Sync was designed to handle 3rd party conduits.  On very
rare occasion, Missing Sync has released their own conduit to help us users.
I'm guessing that the Apple iSync Conduit for Palm is not such a simple
conduit, especially when you add category mapping.  Imagine the amount of
extra support they would now have to provide for a free addition if it did
not work 100%.  And we all know that no software works 100%.  It's just the
nature of a million lines of code :)

Also, Apple is also very aware of the its conduit limitations.  We also know
how tight-lipped is Apple about product/software releases.  Imagine if
Missing Sync spent 100's of man-hours on designing, testing, and supporting
this, to have Apple release it 2 weeks later?

Anyway, those are my thoughts to help explain why Missing Sync might not be
doing this.  At the same time, I'd sure love to see them do it anyway!

Michael Tall
Visual Caf? Inc.



From crussell at markspace.com  Sat Jul  2 07:40:31 2005
From: crussell at markspace.com (Catherine Russell)
Date: Sat Jul  2 07:40:33 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Lifedrive drive mode
In-Reply-To: <d02020009-1039-757649DBEAD711D9BF76000D9358BC20@[192.168.0.100]>
References: <d02020009-1039-757649DBEAD711D9BF76000D9358BC20@[192.168.0.100]>
Message-ID: <C88ED347-4AAE-45DA-B998-4D7359BAA003@markspace.com>

Using the LifeDrive with the Missing SYnc for sync functionality has  
no special requirements other than installing the Missing Sync and  
choosing a PIM conduit. If you intend on syncing with Palm Desktop  
conduits, install Palm Dekstop from the CD that comes with the  
LifeDrive PRIOR to installing the Missing Sync.

There are two conduits not presently supported on the LifeDrive with  
the Missing Sync 4.0.5 - those are the Media conduit (version  
2.5.0.13) and the LifeDrive Backup Conduit which is a new conduit for  
the LifeDrive. You can use the Missing Sync Backup conduit to backup  
the data on your LifeDrive. We will be releasing a beta version of  
the Missing Sync that adds support for the Media and LifeDrive backup  
conduits. Look for the beta release soon and there will be an  
announcement made on this list when it is available.

The issue of the DriveMode is not a syncing issue but a desktop  
mounting issue. The Missing Sync provides a handheld application that  
allows most users to mount their device's SD card on the Mac desktop.  
The handheld Missing Sync app is not supported with the LifeDrive. If  
you want to mount the drive or the SD card on the Mac desktop for  
easy file transfer, you can use the LifeDrive application which comes  
already installed on the LifeDrive. Once the drive or the SD card are  
mounted on the desktop, you can take advantage of the iPhoto and  
iTunes plugins that come with the Missing Sync allowing you easy  
export of JPEGs and copying of MP3s to your device.

Catherine

On Jul 2, 2005, at 1:58 AM, Jason Davies wrote:

> Does anyone know whether I need to install something to have Drive  
> Mode working (Missing Sync page
> says to use Drive mode to mount disk)? If I install Palm  desktop  
> again to get some driver to work, will
> that affect Missing Sync's existing installation?
>
> I'm using it on an iMac with the Palm Desktop that came with it --  
> and Drive Mode works, but using it
> with my PB (Missing Sync) the Drive does not mount. I don't want to  
> mess with the MS setup. Any
> pointers before I begin gratefully received.
>
> _______________________________________________
> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list
> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com
> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives  
> can be found at:
> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk
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From ucgajpd at ucl.ac.uk  Sat Jul  2 07:57:25 2005
From: ucgajpd at ucl.ac.uk (Jason Davies)
Date: Sat Jul  2 07:57:33 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Lifedrive drive mode
In-Reply-To: <C88ED347-4AAE-45DA-B998-4D7359BAA003@markspace.com>
Message-ID: <d02020009-1039-99E74C86EB0911D98EED000D9358BC20@[192.168.0.100]>


thank you for that full answer Catherine. It helped me narrow down the problem, at least. I'll look out for
the beta - unless I've sent it back (which is becoming increasingly likely, given the problems I am having).


Obviously I have a problem with Drive mode independently of other software then - and an IR one too.
If anyone has a Lifedrive and is willing to compare notes on a couple of odd issues, I'd be very grateful if
they got in touch privately - or if you know of a forum I can go to to double-check whether I have
hardware or software issues, etc.

From gerber at inik.net  Sat Jul  2 08:47:17 2005
From: gerber at inik.net (Nik)
Date: Sat Jul  2 08:47:20 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Categories & iCal
In-Reply-To: <BEEC13A5.14FA%miketall@mac.com>
References: <BEEC13A5.14FA%miketall@mac.com>
Message-ID: <D7037ECE-9149-40EA-84C5-A5AF292E868E@inik.net>

I would recommend going to Apple's site and give them feedback on the  
limitations of their Palm conduits for iSync.

I have done so following every update to iSync, and if more people  
join the chorus, they are more likely to put development efforts  
behind adding category sync from Address Book and iCal to the Palm.

http://www.apple.com/macosx/feedback/

--Nik
From yahoo at motoboxer.plus.com  Sat Jul  2 08:51:36 2005
From: yahoo at motoboxer.plus.com (yahoo@motoboxer.plus.com)
Date: Sat Jul  2 08:51:41 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Categories & iCal
In-Reply-To: <BEEC13A5.14FA%miketall@mac.com>
References: <BEEC13A5.14FA%miketall@mac.com>
Message-ID: <43554A1F-D0D5-4E06-8BE5-1DFC765D4A88@motoboxer.plus.com>

Thanks for the thoughts and the info, very interesting..

The category support for PocketPCs is what's swayed me to picking a  
up hx4700 today (so the 128/256mb replacement will be out in July/ 
Sep!) to replace the T3 and all the Palms I've used over the past  
7yrs, the LD is a expensive beta-test program and the inclusion of a  
microdrive beggars belief, but I digress :)

IMHO: The conduit issue with Apple is farcical and is a prime example  
of what happens when companies these days drop items they can't be  
bothered with, in this case Apple and Palm, then Palm dropped the  
whole Mac sync'g completely so they could wash their hands of the  
whole mess.  So I'm washing my hands of Palm and going back to  
Microsoft (WinCE was a while ago!).



On 2 Jul 2005, at 14:49, Mac Mike wrote:

>
> Anyway, those are my thoughts to help explain why Missing Sync  
> might not be
> doing this.  At the same time, I'd sure love to see them do it anyway!
>
> Michael Tall
> Visual Caf? Inc.
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From miketall at mac.com  Sat Jul  2 09:49:42 2005
From: miketall at mac.com (Mac Mike)
Date: Sat Jul  2 09:49:48 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Categories & iCal
In-Reply-To: <43554A1F-D0D5-4E06-8BE5-1DFC765D4A88@motoboxer.plus.com>
Message-ID: <BEEC3DE6.151B%miketall@mac.com>




On 7/2/05 11:51 AM, "yahoo@motoboxer.plus.com" <yahoo@motoboxer.plus.com>
wrote:

> Thanks for the thoughts and the info, very interesting..
> 
Hi again John,

> On 2 Jul 2005, at 14:49, Mac Mike wrote:
>> ....Anyway, those are my thoughts to help explain why Missing Sync
>> might not be
>> doing this.  At the same time, I'd sure love to see them do it anyway!


> IMHO: The conduit issue with Apple is farcical and is a prime example
> of what happens when companies these days drop items they can't be
> bothered with, in this case Apple and Palm, then Palm dropped the
> whole Mac sync'g completely so they could wash their hands of the
> whole mess.  So I'm washing my hands of Palm and going back to
> Microsoft (WinCE was a while ago!).


I've considered this option several times myself.  The digitizer went bad on
my last Palm Tungsten T2 (my brother's did the same thing twice on his E).
With all the compatibility issues, I'm almost ready to make the switch.

After looking at the latest PC based PDA's, I have to admit their layout is
really sweet.  I hate to go back to Microsoft for anything, but if there
product is more compatible & more reliable for my given situation, I might
just do it.

One of the big reasons I switched over to Microsoft Entourage last year was
to get the category support on my Palm (it is really that essential).  With
the latest Tiger OS release, I am compelled to move back to the Apple apps.
The tight integration is really awesome, and I end up using them for a lot
of things anyway.

Well, I'm getting in to rambling now.  Have a happy July 4th everyone.

Cheers,
Michael Tall


From sirathos at mac.com  Sat Jul  2 21:39:14 2005
From: sirathos at mac.com (Rick Eames)
Date: Sat Jul  2 21:39:16 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] New to this...
Message-ID: <0C0ADA5C-D101-4659-8299-81151757EBDB@mac.com>

Okay, today I purchased a Treo 650, put a memory card in it, came  
home and fired up Tiger and installed Missing Sync and it's been a  
disaster ever since.  I have tried everything I can think of, and  
everything in the Knowledge Base, and sync just won't happen.  It's  
as if the Treo and the Mac don't talk ... with bluetooth, they see  
each other, but still, nothing happens.  If I try the USB cable, same  
deal -- nothing.  iSync puts up the dialog saying "looking for  
hotsync" and just spins for 5 mins.

I am with Cingular if that makes a diff.  If anyone has gotten it  
work, please let me know as I'm about to go mad.

Rick
From jbender at markspace.com  Sun Jul  3 07:39:28 2005
From: jbender at markspace.com (Julie Bender)
Date: Sun Jul  3 07:39:33 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] New to this...
In-Reply-To: <0C0ADA5C-D101-4659-8299-81151757EBDB@mac.com>
Message-ID: <BEED70E0.94F1%jbender@markspace.com>

I had a similar issue when Tiger first came out. The problem was related to
the iSync conduit, not the device. The issue turned out to be the old iSync
conduit for pre-Tiger OS iSync. You could still download that conduit from
Apple's site, the old conduit and Tiger didn't communicate so I'd get a 5
minute timeout on iSync, Missing Sync would respond again after the 5
minutes were up. The solution in my case was to select the iSync conduit in
Missing Sync, then command-d to delete it from the conduits list. Next, go
to iSync and under the Devices menu, select Enable Palm OS Syncing. iSync
will then go through its tasks of checking and adding the new conduit. Be
aware that you will see references to HotSync in the dialog boxes,
substitute The Missing Sync for any occurrence of HotSync.

Also note, you should be using the most recent version to The Missing Sync,
v4.0.5. If you are using an earlier version, you can download a free update
here: http://www.markspace.com/downloads.html

Hope it helps, that issue drove me nuts for 2 days.

Julie

On 7/3/05 12:39 AM, "Rick Eames" <sirathos@mac.com> wrote:

> Okay, today I purchased a Treo 650, put a memory card in it, came
> home and fired up Tiger and installed Missing Sync and it's been a
> disaster ever since.  I have tried everything I can think of, and
> everything in the Knowledge Base, and sync just won't happen.  It's
> as if the Treo and the Mac don't talk ... with bluetooth, they see
> each other, but still, nothing happens.  If I try the USB cable, same
> deal -- nothing.  iSync puts up the dialog saying "looking for
> hotsync" and just spins for 5 mins.
> 
> I am with Cingular if that makes a diff.  If anyone has gotten it
> work, please let me know as I'm about to go mad.
> 
> Rick
> _______________________________________________
> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list
> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com
> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found
> at:
> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk


From mca at mac.com  Sun Jul  3 15:53:24 2005
From: mca at mac.com (mca@mac.com)
Date: Sun Jul  3 15:53:45 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] New to this...
In-Reply-To: <0C0ADA5C-D101-4659-8299-81151757EBDB@mac.com>
References: <0C0ADA5C-D101-4659-8299-81151757EBDB@mac.com>
Message-ID: <536-SnapperMsgB63745FABEEE1CF2@[70.219.239.212]>

You have to install palm desktop first then missing sync.....
___


...... Original Message .......
On Sat, 02 Jul 2005 21:39:14 -0700 Rick Eames <sirathos@mac.com> wrote:
>Okay, today I purchased a Treo 650, put a memory card in it, came  
>home and fired up Tiger and installed Missing Sync and it's been a  
>disaster ever since.  I have tried everything I can think of, and  
>everything in the Knowledge Base, and sync just won't happen.  It's  
>as if the Treo and the Mac don't talk ... with bluetooth, they see  
>each other, but still, nothing happens.  If I try the USB cable, same  
>deal -- nothing.  iSync puts up the dialog saying "looking for  
>hotsync" and just spins for 5 mins.
>
>I am with Cingular if that makes a diff.  If anyone has gotten it  
>work, please let me know as I'm about to go mad.
>
>Rick
>_______________________________________________
>missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list
>missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com
>Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be 
found at:
>http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk

From sirathos at mac.com  Sun Jul  3 16:26:52 2005
From: sirathos at mac.com (Rick Eames)
Date: Sun Jul  3 16:26:58 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] New to this...
In-Reply-To: <536-SnapperMsgB63745FABEEE1CF2@[70.219.239.212]>
References: <0C0ADA5C-D101-4659-8299-81151757EBDB@mac.com>
	<536-SnapperMsgB63745FABEEE1CF2@[70.219.239.212]>
Message-ID: <CC1D1B9B-C745-441C-A593-9D7D00886460@mac.com>

Ah - good thing to have in the instructions.  :)

Rick

On Jul 3, 2005, at 3:53 PM, mca@mac.com wrote:

> You have to install palm desktop first then missing sync.....
> ___
>
>
> ...... Original Message .......
> On Sat, 02 Jul 2005 21:39:14 -0700 Rick Eames <sirathos@mac.com>  
> wrote:
>
>> Okay, today I purchased a Treo 650, put a memory card in it, came
>> home and fired up Tiger and installed Missing Sync and it's been a
>> disaster ever since.  I have tried everything I can think of, and
>> everything in the Knowledge Base, and sync just won't happen.  It's
>> as if the Treo and the Mac don't talk ... with bluetooth, they see
>> each other, but still, nothing happens.  If I try the USB cable, same
>> deal -- nothing.  iSync puts up the dialog saying "looking for
>> hotsync" and just spins for 5 mins.
>>
>> I am with Cingular if that makes a diff.  If anyone has gotten it
>> work, please let me know as I'm about to go mad.
>>
>> Rick
>> _______________________________________________
>> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list
>> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com
>> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives  
>> can be
>>
> found at:
>
>> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list
> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com
> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives  
> can be found at:
> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk
>

From sgruby at markspace.com  Sun Jul  3 17:34:25 2005
From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby)
Date: Sun Jul  3 17:34:37 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] New to this...
In-Reply-To: <CC1D1B9B-C745-441C-A593-9D7D00886460@mac.com>
References: <0C0ADA5C-D101-4659-8299-81151757EBDB@mac.com>
	<536-SnapperMsgB63745FABEEE1CF2@[70.219.239.212]>
	<CC1D1B9B-C745-441C-A593-9D7D00886460@mac.com>
Message-ID: <3818B60D-FDD4-49DA-A987-3B0ED6094B38@markspace.com>

Unfortunately that information is incorrect. You do not have to  
install Palm Desktop prior to installing Missing Sync; you only need  
to install Palm Desktop if 1) you plan on using Palm Desktop for  
Calendar/Address Book/ToDos/Memos or 2) you want to install the  
conduits such as Media that come with the Treo 650.

On Jul 3, 2005, at 4:26 PM, Rick Eames wrote:

> Ah - good thing to have in the instructions.  :)
>
> Rick
>
> On Jul 3, 2005, at 3:53 PM, mca@mac.com wrote:
>
>
>> You have to install palm desktop first then missing sync.....
>> ___
>>
>>
>> ...... Original Message .......
>> On Sat, 02 Jul 2005 21:39:14 -0700 Rick Eames <sirathos@mac.com>  
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Okay, today I purchased a Treo 650, put a memory card in it, came
>>> home and fired up Tiger and installed Missing Sync and it's been a
>>> disaster ever since.  I have tried everything I can think of, and
>>> everything in the Knowledge Base, and sync just won't happen.  It's
>>> as if the Treo and the Mac don't talk ... with bluetooth, they see
>>> each other, but still, nothing happens.  If I try the USB cable,  
>>> same
>>> deal -- nothing.  iSync puts up the dialog saying "looking for
>>> hotsync" and just spins for 5 mins.
>>>
>>> I am with Cingular if that makes a diff.  If anyone has gotten it
>>> work, please let me know as I'm about to go mad.
>>>
>>> Rick
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list
>>> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com
>>> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives  
>>> can be
>>>
>>>
>> found at:
>>
>>
>>> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk
>>>
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list
>> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com
>> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives  
>> can be found at:
>> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list
> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com
> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives  
> can be found at:
> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk
>
>


--
Scott Gruby
Lead Engineer
Mark/Space, Inc.
<http://www.markspace.com/>

Please visit <http://www.markspace.com/support/> for assistance with  
Mark/Space products.

From jims at americanroamer.com  Tue Jul  5 07:04:34 2005
From: jims at americanroamer.com (Jim Strickland)
Date: Tue Jul  5 07:04:48 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Categories & iCal
Message-ID: <42CA9372.2020205@americanroamer.com>

Also, Apple is also very aware of the its conduit limitations.  We also know
how tight-lipped is Apple about product/software releases.  Imagine if
Missing Sync spent 100's of man-hours on designing, testing, and supporting
this, to have Apple release it 2 weeks later?

Not developing a solution to fix a problem simply because Apple might be 
doing so is not a viable option. There are many issues that Apple is 
aware of that just don't seem to have any importance to them. The 
category problem has been around for quite a while. If Apple was going 
to fix it, they should have done it a long time ago.


-- 
James Strickland - MCP
IT Manager
American Roamer
901-377-8585
http://www.americanroamer.com

From hsmoliar at bellatlantic.net  Tue Jul  5 13:31:30 2005
From: hsmoliar at bellatlantic.net (Harold Smoliar)
Date: Tue Jul  5 13:31:41 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] error message syncing treo650 to mac
Message-ID: <2f4e58aab72a774b8b33f14426edd702@bellatlantic.net>

Hi all
I keep getting this error message which seems to have started after I 
used the camera on my Treo650(Verizon) to take a picture:

    Unable to sync media file 'Family:Photo_070305_001.jpg' on the card. 
Error code: -43.

I am syncing to a Mac. All else works fine. OS X 10.3.9 (still haven't 
got the guts or the time to go to Tiger)

Thanks in advance
Harold

Harold Smoliar
English horn, Pittsburgh Symphony
Piano, White Tie Group
harold@whitetiegroup.com
www.whitetiegroup.com
From sgruby at markspace.com  Tue Jul  5 13:34:55 2005
From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby)
Date: Tue Jul  5 13:35:04 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] error message syncing treo650 to mac
In-Reply-To: <2f4e58aab72a774b8b33f14426edd702@bellatlantic.net>
References: <2f4e58aab72a774b8b33f14426edd702@bellatlantic.net>
Message-ID: <F3742ED3-FC5B-4DA2-914E-459D10D34C5E@markspace.com>


On Jul 5, 2005, at 1:31 PM, Harold Smoliar wrote:

> Hi all
> I keep getting this error message which seems to have started after  
> I used the camera on my Treo650(Verizon) to take a picture:
>
>    Unable to sync media file 'Family:Photo_070305_001.jpg' on the  
> card. Error code: -43.
>
> I am syncing to a Mac. All else works fine. OS X 10.3.9 (still  
> haven't got the guts or the time to go to Tiger)
>

We believe we have fixed this issue in the latest beta version of  
Missing Sync for Palm OS which should be posted soon; it appears that  
palmOne made some changes to the Media conduit which caused the  
issue. The beta will be 4.0.6 beta 2, I believe.

--
Scott Gruby
Lead Engineer
Mark/Space, Inc.
<http://www.markspace.com/>

Please visit <http://www.markspace.com/support/> for assistance with  
Mark/Space products.

From hsmoliar at bellatlantic.net  Tue Jul  5 14:02:06 2005
From: hsmoliar at bellatlantic.net (Harold Smoliar)
Date: Tue Jul  5 14:02:14 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] error message syncing treo650 to mac
In-Reply-To: <F3742ED3-FC5B-4DA2-914E-459D10D34C5E@markspace.com>
References: <2f4e58aab72a774b8b33f14426edd702@bellatlantic.net>
	<F3742ED3-FC5B-4DA2-914E-459D10D34C5E@markspace.com>
Message-ID: <97d92fe8690ca510d47149aa661ca788@bellatlantic.net>


On Jul 5, 2005, at 4:34 PM, Scott Gruby wrote:

>
> On Jul 5, 2005, at 1:31 PM, Harold Smoliar wrote:
>
>> Hi all
>> I keep getting this error message which seems to have started after I 
>> used the camera on my Treo650(Verizon) to take a picture:
>>
>>    Unable to sync media file 'Family:Photo_070305_001.jpg' on the 
>> card. Error code: -43.
>>
>> I am syncing to a Mac. All else works fine. OS X 10.3.9 (still 
>> haven't got the guts or the time to go to Tiger)
>>
>
> We believe we have fixed this issue in the latest beta version of 
> Missing Sync for Palm OS which should be posted soon; it appears that 
> palmOne made some changes to the Media conduit which caused the issue. 
> The beta will be 4.0.6 beta 2, I believe.

Hi Scott
I'd prefer not to use beta software so I'll wait until you post 4.0.6 
for all of us.
Thanks very much for the quick reply
Harold

Harold Smoliar
English horn, Pittsburgh Symphony
Piano, White Tie Group
harold@whitetiegroup.com
www.whitetiegroup.com
From jailanish at gmail.com  Tue Jul  5 20:57:19 2005
From: jailanish at gmail.com (Jai)
Date: Tue Jul  5 20:57:22 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] error while synching between MS and
	Entourage
Message-ID: <7b22f6080507052057cf83a54@mail.gmail.com>

I encountere error while synching between MS and Entourage. The error
msg is as below

Sync starting at 7/6/05 11:25 AM (11:25:44) on USB
?Syncing Address Book
?An unknown error #536870163 occurred
?Failed Entourage Conduit (0x1ffffd13)
?Sync completed successfully at 7/6/05 11:25 AM (11:25:57)
 thanks & regards
-- 
-Jai-
Kuala Lumpur

From sgruby at markspace.com  Thu Jul  7 10:38:20 2005
From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby)
Date: Thu Jul  7 10:38:29 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Missing Sync for Palm OS 4.0.6 b3 now
	available
Message-ID: <375BD325-B57B-4968-A0B6-70F894DCC8DE@markspace.com>

Mark/Space, Inc. is pleased to announce The Missing Sync for Palm OS  
4.0.6 beta 3. This version is being made available to registered  
users for testing various fixes. Please note that since this is a  
beta version, it has not been fully tested. We recommend you backup  
your data prior to installing. If you have issues with this version,  
you may have to revert to the shipping version.

This version addresses issues with the LifeDrive and the Media  
conduit shipped with newer palmOne devices.

The beta version can be downloaded from: <http://www.markspace.com/ 
testing/>

version 4.0.6 b3 - July 2005
-------------
- Fixed issue with vfsFileGet again
- Betas no longer expire; however, please make sure you upgrade when  
the release version comes out.

version 4.0.6 b2 - July 2005
-------------
- Fixed issue with SyncGetHHOSVersion not handling a NULL
- Debug options can now be properly invoked with the option key from  
preferences.

version 4.0.6 b1 - July 2005
-------------
- Now loads conduit that don't properly put in a CFBundleExecutable  
tab like Apple says to do
- Addressed issue where some conduits were incorrectly passing a  
POSIX formatted path for vfsFileGet
- Addressed issues with MachO (non-Cocoa) conduits loading




--
Scott Gruby
Lead Engineer
Mark/Space, Inc.
<http://www.markspace.com/>

Please visit <http://www.markspace.com/support/> for assistance with  
Mark/Space products.

From ucgajpd at ucl.ac.uk  Thu Jul  7 10:44:45 2005
From: ucgajpd at ucl.ac.uk (Jason Davies)
Date: Thu Jul  7 10:44:50 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Missing Sync for Palm OS 4.0.6 b3 now
	available
In-Reply-To: <375BD325-B57B-4968-A0B6-70F894DCC8DE@markspace.com>
Message-ID: <d02020009-1039-CE31A3AAEF0E11D986B5000D9358BC20@[192.168.0.100]>


>- Fixed issue with vfsFileGet again

sorry, what does this mean?:-) In practice, I mean...

From sgruby at markspace.com  Thu Jul  7 10:46:49 2005
From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby)
Date: Thu Jul  7 10:46:59 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Missing Sync for Palm OS 4.0.6 b3 now
	available
In-Reply-To: <d02020009-1039-CE31A3AAEF0E11D986B5000D9358BC20@[192.168.0.100]>
References: <d02020009-1039-CE31A3AAEF0E11D986B5000D9358BC20@[192.168.0.100]>
Message-ID: <F54CBC5D-D2D8-483B-B840-B33D9F18B97F@markspace.com>


On Jul 7, 2005, at 10:44 AM, Jason Davies wrote:

>
>
>> - Fixed issue with vfsFileGet again
>>
>
> sorry, what does this mean?:-) In practice, I mean...
>

"This version addresses issues with the LifeDrive and the Media  
conduit shipped with newer palmOne devices." Does that help?

--
Scott Gruby
Lead Engineer
Mark/Space, Inc.
<http://www.markspace.com/>

Please visit <http://www.markspace.com/support/> for assistance with  
Mark/Space products.

From ucgajpd at ucl.ac.uk  Thu Jul  7 11:16:58 2005
From: ucgajpd at ucl.ac.uk (Jason Davies)
Date: Thu Jul  7 11:17:04 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Missing Sync for Palm OS 4.0.6 b3 now
	available
In-Reply-To: <F54CBC5D-D2D8-483B-B840-B33D9F18B97F@markspace.com>
Message-ID: <d02020009-1039-4EC18161EF1311D9AF99000D9358BC20@[192.168.0.100]>


>
>"This version addresses issues with the LifeDrive and the Media
>conduit shipped with newer palmOne devices." Does that help?


to be more precise then, I have seen allusions to Lifedrive backup conduits not working. Is this what is
addressed in the 'Media conduit'? I have one called Lifedrive Backup and one called Backup on a clean
installation of the Palm Desktop installer. Were the problems mentioned associated with backup in
general or specifically the Lifedrive Backup conduit, which presumably backs up the Media?

From sgruby at markspace.com  Thu Jul  7 11:30:09 2005
From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby)
Date: Thu Jul  7 11:30:19 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Missing Sync for Palm OS 4.0.6 b3 now
	available
In-Reply-To: <d02020009-1039-4EC18161EF1311D9AF99000D9358BC20@[192.168.0.100]>
References: <d02020009-1039-4EC18161EF1311D9AF99000D9358BC20@[192.168.0.100]>
Message-ID: <19CC7E5E-2477-4BB5-9836-4A3D617A4C34@markspace.com>


On Jul 7, 2005, at 11:16 AM, Jason Davies wrote:

>
>
>>
>> "This version addresses issues with the LifeDrive and the Media
>> conduit shipped with newer palmOne devices." Does that help?
>>
>
>
> to be more precise then, I have seen allusions to Lifedrive backup  
> conduits not working. Is this what is
> addressed in the 'Media conduit'? I have one called Lifedrive  
> Backup and one called Backup on a clean
> installation of the Palm Desktop installer.

Backup and LifeDrive Backup are 2 different conduits; the changes  
affected the LifeDrive Backup conduit only (that conduit wouldn't  
load at all). The Media conduit (actually called Photos in the  
Conduits folder) is another conduit altogether.

> Were the problems mentioned associated with backup in
> general or specifically the Lifedrive Backup conduit, which  
> presumably backs up the Media?

The Media (Photos) Conduit backs up the photos (the backup conduit  
does not); while the problems were specifically seen in the Media  
conduit and LifeDrive backup conduits (different issues with each  
one), we have fixed it so that other conduits that make the same  
mistakes as these conduits will operate correctly.

We have seen that the Media conduit has very odd behavior (outside of  
Missing Sync) and that you should check the "Backup photos" option.  
Other than backing up the photos, I have no idea what the conduit does.

If you're continuing to have problems with these conduits, please  
contact our support staff.

Does this answer your question?

Thanks.

--
Scott Gruby
Lead Engineer
Mark/Space, Inc.
<http://www.markspace.com/>

Please visit <http://www.markspace.com/support/> for assistance with  
Mark/Space products.

From ucgajpd at ucl.ac.uk  Thu Jul  7 11:58:45 2005
From: ucgajpd at ucl.ac.uk (Jason Davies)
Date: Thu Jul  7 11:58:52 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Missing Sync for Palm OS 4.0.6 b3 now
	available
In-Reply-To: <19CC7E5E-2477-4BB5-9836-4A3D617A4C34@markspace.com>
Message-ID: <d02020009-1039-24F4A782EF1911D9B3B2000D9358BC20@[192.168.0.100]>


>
>Does this answer your question?

I think so  - it certainly reinforces my confusion:-) thanks for the detail - now I can start working out
whether the beta is working as expected (which was the point of my question - to be able to test it). cheers
from a nervously- exhausted Londoner. 

From bobwilliams at knology.net  Thu Jul  7 17:16:13 2005
From: bobwilliams at knology.net (Robert Williams)
Date: Thu Jul  7 17:16:17 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Missing Sync for Palm OS 4.0.6 b3
	now available
In-Reply-To: <d02020009-1039-24F4A782EF1911D9B3B2000D9358BC20@[192.168.0.100]>
Message-ID: <BEF32FFD.E072%bobwilliams@knology.net>

Jason,

Our thoughts and prayers are with everyone in London - I hope that you and
all of your friends and family are OK.

I lived just south of London for 4+ years and know Kings Cross Station well
- and the other areas in the Financial district where the bombers hit - I DO
hope you were on the OTHER side of the city.

Best regards and, if possible, Cheers,

RObert


On 7/7/05 1:58 PM, "Jason Davies" <ucgajpd@ucl.ac.uk> wrote:

> 
>> 
>> Does this answer your question?
> 
> I think so  - it certainly reinforces my confusion:-) thanks for the detail -
> now I can start working out
> whether the beta is working as expected (which was the point of my question -
> to be able to test it). cheers
> from a nervously- exhausted Londoner.
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com
> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found
> at:
> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk
> 


From sgruby at markspace.com  Fri Jul  8 12:42:51 2005
From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby)
Date: Fri Jul  8 12:43:02 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] error while synching between MS and
	Entourage
In-Reply-To: <7b22f6080507052057cf83a54@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7b22f6080507052057cf83a54@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4808643B-E813-4E74-9ADD-F92E65CCDCB3@markspace.com>

What device are you using?

On Jul 5, 2005, at 8:57 PM, Jai wrote:

> I encountere error while synching between MS and Entourage. The error
> msg is as below
>
> Sync starting at 7/6/05 11:25 AM (11:25:44) on USB
> Syncing Address Book
> An unknown error #536870163 occurred
> Failed Entourage Conduit (0x1ffffd13)
> Sync completed successfully at 7/6/05 11:25 AM (11:25:57)
>  thanks & regards
> --  



--
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Lead Engineer
Mark/Space, Inc.
<http://www.markspace.com/>

Please visit <http://www.markspace.com/support/> for assistance with  
Mark/Space products.

From chris.ridd at mac.com  Fri Jul  8 12:50:03 2005
From: chris.ridd at mac.com (Chris Ridd)
Date: Fri Jul  8 12:50:23 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] error while synching between MS
	and Entourage
In-Reply-To: <4808643B-E813-4E74-9ADD-F92E65CCDCB3@markspace.com>
Message-ID: <BEF4977B.DA4FB%chris.ridd@mac.com>

On 8/7/05 8:42, Scott Gruby <sgruby@markspace.com> wrote:

> What device are you using?
> 
> On Jul 5, 2005, at 8:57 PM, Jai wrote:
> 
>> I encountere error while synching between MS and Entourage. The error
>> msg is as below
>> 
>> Sync starting at 7/6/05 11:25 AM (11:25:44) on USB
>> Syncing Address Book
>> An unknown error #536870163 occurred
>> Failed Entourage Conduit (0x1ffffd13)
>> Sync completed successfully at 7/6/05 11:25 AM (11:25:57)
>>  thanks & regards

That's interesting - I'm seeing similar errors after syncing from my
Tungsten T. Missing Sync 4.0.5 (63) logs:

===
Sync starting at 05/07/2005 5:11 (17:11:27) on Bluetooth
?OK Install
?Error 5463: Error while reading from the AvantGo Server.
?OK Mark/Space Conduit for AvantGo with 1 message(s)
?Syncing Address Book
?An unknown error #16394 occurred
?Failed Entourage Conduit (0x400a)
?TimeCopy: db removal failed: 16394
?OK TimeCopy with 1 message(s)
?    - Unexpected error number 0x400a
?
?Failed Install (0x400a)
?Failed Backup (0x400a)
?Sync completed successfully at 05/07/2005 6:08 (18:08:52)
?------------------------------------------------------------------
?Sync starting at 08/07/2005 3:38 (15:38:15) on Bluetooth
?OK Install
?Please upgrade your AvantGo software by visiting http://avantgo.com
?OK Mark/Space Conduit for AvantGo with 1 message(s)
?Syncing Address Book
?An unknown error #17411 occurred
?Failed Entourage Conduit (0x4403)
?TimeCopy: db create failed: 17411
?OK TimeCopy with 1 message(s)
?OK Install
?OK Backup
?Sync completed successfully at 08/07/2005 3:40 (15:40:31)
===

My last truly successful sync was on 30th June.

Cheers,

Chris



From jailanish at gmail.com  Fri Jul  8 18:58:02 2005
From: jailanish at gmail.com (Jai)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:58:04 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] error while synching between MS and
	Entourage
In-Reply-To: <BEF4977B.DA4FB%chris.ridd@mac.com>
References: <4808643B-E813-4E74-9ADD-F92E65CCDCB3@markspace.com>
	<BEF4977B.DA4FB%chris.ridd@mac.com>
Message-ID: <7b22f608050708185856fc3608@mail.gmail.com>

Treo 650 Firmware 01.28 / Software 1.13-ROW

On 7/9/05, Chris Ridd <chris.ridd@mac.com> wrote:
> On 8/7/05 8:42, Scott Gruby <sgruby@markspace.com> wrote:
> 
> > What device are you using?
> >
> > On Jul 5, 2005, at 8:57 PM, Jai wrote:
> >
> >> I encountere error while synching between MS and Entourage. The error
> >> msg is as below
> >>
> >> Sync starting at 7/6/05 11:25 AM (11:25:44) on USB
> >> Syncing Address Book
> >> An unknown error #536870163 occurred
> >> Failed Entourage Conduit (0x1ffffd13)
> >> Sync completed successfully at 7/6/05 11:25 AM (11:25:57)
> >>  thanks & regards
> 
> That's interesting - I'm seeing similar errors after syncing from my
> Tungsten T. Missing Sync 4.0.5 (63) logs:
> 
> ===
> Sync starting at 05/07/2005 5:11 (17:11:27) on Bluetooth
> OK Install
> Error 5463: Error while reading from the AvantGo Server.
> OK Mark/Space Conduit for AvantGo with 1 message(s)
> Syncing Address Book
> An unknown error #16394 occurred
> Failed Entourage Conduit (0x400a)
> TimeCopy: db removal failed: 16394
> OK TimeCopy with 1 message(s)
>     - Unexpected error number 0x400a
> 
> Failed Install (0x400a)
> Failed Backup (0x400a)
> Sync completed successfully at 05/07/2005 6:08 (18:08:52)
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> Sync starting at 08/07/2005 3:38 (15:38:15) on Bluetooth
> OK Install
> Please upgrade your AvantGo software by visiting http://avantgo.com
> OK Mark/Space Conduit for AvantGo with 1 message(s)
> Syncing Address Book
> An unknown error #17411 occurred
> Failed Entourage Conduit (0x4403)
> TimeCopy: db create failed: 17411
> OK TimeCopy with 1 message(s)
> OK Install
> OK Backup
> Sync completed successfully at 08/07/2005 3:40 (15:40:31)
> ===
> 
> My last truly successful sync was on 30th June.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
> 
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From sgruby at markspace.com  Fri Jul  8 19:01:59 2005
From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby)
Date: Fri Jul  8 19:02:11 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] error while synching between MS and
	Entourage
In-Reply-To: <7b22f608050708185856fc3608@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4808643B-E813-4E74-9ADD-F92E65CCDCB3@markspace.com>
	<BEF4977B.DA4FB%chris.ridd@mac.com>
	<7b22f608050708185856fc3608@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6EBAF644-BC50-4A1B-AEFA-AAC2BFB600D7@markspace.com>


On Jul 8, 2005, at 6:58 PM, Jai wrote:

> Treo 650 Firmware 01.28 / Software 1.13-ROW
>

OK, thanks. I've addressed some issues in the next beta build, but I  
don't know if they'll help you as this really looks like and  
Entourage issue.

--
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Lead Engineer
Mark/Space, Inc.
<http://www.markspace.com/>

Please visit <http://www.markspace.com/support/> for assistance with  
Mark/Space products.

From amcutting at yahoo.co.uk  Sat Jul  9 14:23:15 2005
From: amcutting at yahoo.co.uk (Alastair Cutting)
Date: Sat Jul  9 14:23:19 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Spurious calendars syncing
Message-ID: <5ADBB8D2-9DFB-4ABF-A277-CEA76F3CB0D3@yahoo.co.uk>

I occasionally get a spurious calendar turning up in iCal (2.0.1)  
after a sync with my T3 using MissingSync (4.0.5 (63)).
It is called 'untitled' and has no info in it.
Deleting it in iCal, and syncing again is ok; but then the next time  
sync, it turns up again.
It feels like it is something on the T3, that I cannot get rid of.
Any suggestions?

Thanks

Alastair

		
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From pdengler at gmail.com  Sat Jul  9 16:09:42 2005
From: pdengler at gmail.com (Pat Dengler)
Date: Sat Jul  9 16:09:10 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Spurious calendars syncing
In-Reply-To: <5ADBB8D2-9DFB-4ABF-A277-CEA76F3CB0D3@yahoo.co.uk>
References: <5ADBB8D2-9DFB-4ABF-A277-CEA76F3CB0D3@yahoo.co.uk>
Message-ID: <890722FF-1FB8-459F-9FB9-C750A461EB36@gmail.com>

Not just the T3...I know someone with a Treo 650 and the same symptom.

On Jul 9, 2005, at 2:23 , Alastair Cutting wrote:

> I occasionally get a spurious calendar turning up in iCal (2.0.1)  
> after a sync with my T3 using MissingSync (4.0.5 (63)).
> It is called 'untitled' and has no info in it.
> Deleting it in iCal, and syncing again is ok; but then the next  
> time sync, it turns up again.
> It feels like it is something on the T3, that I cannot get rid of.
> Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks
>
> Alastair
>
>
> ___________________________________________________________How much  
> free photo storage do you get? Store your holidaysnaps for FREE  
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From fred at delicatefunk.com  Sat Jul  9 17:21:33 2005
From: fred at delicatefunk.com (Fred)
Date: Sat Jul  9 17:21:46 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Spurious calendars syncing
In-Reply-To: <5ADBB8D2-9DFB-4ABF-A277-CEA76F3CB0D3@yahoo.co.uk>
References: <5ADBB8D2-9DFB-4ABF-A277-CEA76F3CB0D3@yahoo.co.uk>
Message-ID: <c1578334ecd0dd9ff06568e880ab2f97@delicatefunk.com>

I got the same symptom on my T3 too....
Don't know what it is and hoe to fix it....

Fred

Le 9 juil. 05, ? 23:23, Alastair Cutting a ?crit :

> I occasionally get a spurious calendar turning up in iCal (2.0.1) 
> after a sync with my T3 using MissingSync (4.0.5 (63)).
> It is called 'untitled' and has no info in it.
> Deleting it in iCal, and syncing again is ok; but then the next time 
> sync, it turns up again.
> It feels like it is something on the T3, that I cannot get rid of.
> Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks
>
> Alastair
>
> 		
> ___________________________________________________________How much 
> free photo storage do you get? Store your holidaysnaps for FREE with 
> Yahoo! Photos http://uk.photos.yahoo.com
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From bobbys at mac.com  Sun Jul 10 17:18:56 2005
From: bobbys at mac.com (bobby saha)
Date: Sun Jul 10 17:19:03 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Choosing Sync Profiles from handheld?
In-Reply-To: <200507101900.j6AJ0J8x030287@sparrow.markspace.com>
References: <200507101900.j6AJ0J8x030287@sparrow.markspace.com>
Message-ID: <3BF7256D-489E-47A2-92BF-29B105BA0FA9@mac.com>

Hi there-

Just wondering if it's possible to choose from the various Sync  
profiles from the HANDHELD.

If not, how about for a next version?  It would be much appreciated.

While we're at it, it would be great to have an app-launcher built  
into the Mac version of Missing Sync that would trigger (for example)  
an Applescript before or after the sync process is complete.

For instance, due to many mishaps with losing data during Hotsyncs  
(going way back to '97 or '98 or so), I've gotten into the habit of  
backing up the Hotsync folders with all my info (Memo pads, Backups,  
various conduit-based data) before every hotsync.  I typically do  
this by choosing the 'Create Archive' option from the Finder on the  
folder in question... once that's done, I then initiate the Hotsync.   
Since I love the WiFi syncing that Missing Sync provides, I'd love to  
be able to do *all* these steps from my handheld.  I think the most  
flexible way to allow for this is to have an option to launch an app  
either before or after the Hotsync runs.

Des that make sense?



-bobby



From mith at mac.com  Sun Jul 10 19:14:15 2005
From: mith at mac.com (Michael Thompson)
Date: Sun Jul 10 19:14:40 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] can't get photos
Message-ID: <46E0E666-DD85-434F-A9FE-07BF5C6FD268@mac.com>

I bought Missing Sync tonight so I could
get photos off of my Palm Zire.  I just
got a new Macintosh with Tiger, and
have had trouble syncing.  Several
photos I took with the Zire 71 are
not downloading to the computer, and
I thought Missing Sync would make it
easy.  But every time I try to do it,
there is an 8805 error on these files.
I think that is the number.  It is driving
me crazy.  I just want to sync my
photos from my palm to my mac.
Can anyone help?

Best,

Mike



From crussell at markspace.com  Sun Jul 10 19:25:38 2005
From: crussell at markspace.com (Catherine Russell)
Date: Sun Jul 10 19:25:39 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] can't get photos
In-Reply-To: <46E0E666-DD85-434F-A9FE-07BF5C6FD268@mac.com>
References: <46E0E666-DD85-434F-A9FE-07BF5C6FD268@mac.com>
Message-ID: <D75F821D-DE81-4B9F-A981-C99A6CC55457@markspace.com>

Mike,

Have you looked in the following folder: ~/Documents/Palm/[your  
username]/photos/offline copy location/internal.

If not there and if you are trying to get your photos from the Zire  
using the Media conduit that came with Palm Desktop 4.2.1revB (the  
new Tiger supported version of Palm Desktop that was recently  
released) you likely have the Media conduit version 2.5.0.13. That  
version of the Media conduit is not supported with MS/Palm OS 4.0.5.  
We do have a new beta version of the Missing Sync that adds support  
for that conduit - 4.0.6b3. You can download from: http:// 
www.markspace.com/testing.

Alternatively, if you copy the photos from the ZIre to your SD card  
and then use the Missing Sync application on your handheld to mount  
the SD card on the Mac desktop, you can copy the photos to your Mac.

If this still does not solve your problem, please submit a request  
for support by going to:

http://www.markspace.com/support/emailsupport.html

Be sure to include your debugging log from a failed sync. To get the  
log in Mac OS 10.4 (TIGER), hit command + option and then open the  
Missing Sync menu. Choose the Turn on Debugging option. Check the box  
to turn on the log. Then sync. After completing the sync, and if it  
fails, locate the log in ~/Library/Logs and send it to us.

Catherine

On Jul 10, 2005, at 7:14 PM, Michael Thompson wrote:

> I bought Missing Sync tonight so I could
> get photos off of my Palm Zire.  I just
> got a new Macintosh with Tiger, and
> have had trouble syncing.  Several
> photos I took with the Zire 71 are
> not downloading to the computer, and
> I thought Missing Sync would make it
> easy.  But every time I try to do it,
> there is an 8805 error on these files.
> I think that is the number.  It is driving
> me crazy.  I just want to sync my
> photos from my palm to my mac.
> Can anyone help?
>
> Best,
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list
> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com
> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives  
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From mith at mac.com  Sun Jul 10 19:33:22 2005
From: mith at mac.com (Michael Thompson)
Date: Sun Jul 10 19:33:44 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] can't get photos
In-Reply-To: <D75F821D-DE81-4B9F-A981-C99A6CC55457@markspace.com>
References: <46E0E666-DD85-434F-A9FE-07BF5C6FD268@mac.com>
	<D75F821D-DE81-4B9F-A981-C99A6CC55457@markspace.com>
Message-ID: <1D30FDE1-AC93-4B37-BD99-C5F6E88AD570@mac.com>

Yay! Catherine!

They were there.
Thank you SO much.

m


On Jul 10, 2005, at 10:25 PM, Catherine Russell wrote:

> Mike,
>
> Have you looked in the following folder: ~/Documents/Palm/[your  
> username]/photos/offline copy location/internal.
>
> If not there and if you are trying to get your photos from the Zire  
> using the Media conduit that came with Palm Desktop 4.2.1revB (the  
> new Tiger supported version of Palm Desktop that was recently  
> released) you likely have the Media conduit version 2.5.0.13. That  
> version of the Media conduit is not supported with MS/Palm OS  
> 4.0.5. We do have a new beta version of the Missing Sync that adds  
> support for that conduit - 4.0.6b3. You can download from: http:// 
> www.markspace.com/testing.
>
> Alternatively, if you copy the photos from the ZIre to your SD card  
> and then use the Missing Sync application on your handheld to mount  
> the SD card on the Mac desktop, you can copy the photos to your Mac.
>
> If this still does not solve your problem, please submit a request  
> for support by going to:
>
> http://www.markspace.com/support/emailsupport.html
>
> Be sure to include your debugging log from a failed sync. To get  
> the log in Mac OS 10.4 (TIGER), hit command + option and then open  
> the Missing Sync menu. Choose the Turn on Debugging option. Check  
> the box to turn on the log. Then sync. After completing the sync,  
> and if it fails, locate the log in ~/Library/Logs and send it to us.
>
> Catherine
>
> On Jul 10, 2005, at 7:14 PM, Michael Thompson wrote:
>
>
>> I bought Missing Sync tonight so I could
>> get photos off of my Palm Zire.  I just
>> got a new Macintosh with Tiger, and
>> have had trouble syncing.  Several
>> photos I took with the Zire 71 are
>> not downloading to the computer, and
>> I thought Missing Sync would make it
>> easy.  But every time I try to do it,
>> there is an 8805 error on these files.
>> I think that is the number.  It is driving
>> me crazy.  I just want to sync my
>> photos from my palm to my mac.
>> Can anyone help?
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list
>> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com
>> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives  
>> can be found at:
>> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk
>>
>>
>
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From sgruby at markspace.com  Sun Jul 10 21:47:23 2005
From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby)
Date: Sun Jul 10 21:47:34 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Choosing Sync Profiles from handheld?
In-Reply-To: <3BF7256D-489E-47A2-92BF-29B105BA0FA9@mac.com>
References: <200507101900.j6AJ0J8x030287@sparrow.markspace.com>
	<3BF7256D-489E-47A2-92BF-29B105BA0FA9@mac.com>
Message-ID: <C8CFB061-841B-4230-AE9E-B8A47876727B@markspace.com>


On Jul 10, 2005, at 5:18 PM, bobby saha wrote:

> Hi there-
>
> Just wondering if it's possible to choose from the various Sync  
> profiles from the HANDHELD.
>
> If not, how about for a next version?  It would be much appreciated.
>

We have no current plans on this as we don't control the sync  
software on the handheld.

> While we're at it, it would be great to have an app-launcher built  
> into the Mac version of Missing Sync that would trigger (for  
> example) an Applescript before or after the sync process is complete.
>

That's an interesting suggestion. We may consider it for a future  
version.


Thanks.

--
Scott Gruby
Lead Engineer
Mark/Space, Inc.
<http://www.markspace.com/>

Please visit <http://www.markspace.com/support/> for assistance with  
Mark/Space products.

From brad at stop.mail-abuse.org  Tue Jul 12 13:51:01 2005
From: brad at stop.mail-abuse.org (Brad Knowles)
Date: Tue Jul 12 13:51:20 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] iSync 2.1?
Message-ID: <p06200705bef9dd84e26f@[10.0.1.3]>

Folks,

	So, it appears that iSync 2.1 is now out (see 
<http://www.palminfocenter.com/view_story.asp?ID=7955>).  Can anyone 
offer any advice or experience on how this plays with Missing Sync?

-- 
Brad Knowles, <brad@stop.mail-abuse.org>

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little
temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

     -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania
     Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755

   SAGE member since 1995.  See <http://www.sage.org/> for more info.
From aller at umich.edu  Tue Jul 12 16:42:35 2005
From: aller at umich.edu (Roger A. Ruedisueli)
Date: Tue Jul 12 16:42:38 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] iSync 2.1?
In-Reply-To: <p06200705bef9dd84e26f@[10.0.1.3]>
References: <p06200705bef9dd84e26f@[10.0.1.3]>
Message-ID: <29474422-1294-4117-B215-B57ED167E64E@umich.edu>

No problems so far, but I've only done a couple of syncs. YMMV.

Roger


On Jul 12, 2005, at 1:51 PM, Brad Knowles wrote:

> Folks,
>
>     So, it appears that iSync 2.1 is now out (see <http:// 
> www.palminfocenter.com/view_story.asp?ID=7955>).  Can anyone offer  
> any advice or experience on how this plays with Missing Sync?
>
> -- 
> Brad Knowles, <brad@stop.mail-abuse.org>
>
> "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little
> temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
>
>     -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania
>     Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755
>
>   SAGE member since 1995.  See <http://www.sage.org/> for more info.
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From martin.muntenbruch at gmx.de  Tue Jul 12 17:33:44 2005
From: martin.muntenbruch at gmx.de (Martin Muntenbruch)
Date: Tue Jul 12 17:34:15 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Showing Sync Profile during sync
In-Reply-To: <C8CFB061-841B-4230-AE9E-B8A47876727B@markspace.com>
Message-ID: <BEF9AF78.4648%martin.muntenbruch@gmx.de>

Hello Scott,

On this subject - how about showing which synch profile is selected during
sync (as a little text info note at a corner of the window).

Because it's all too easy to forget to switch back to "all conduits" after
doing a special sync (say memo only)..


Martin


>> Just wondering if it's possible to choose from the various Sync
>> profiles from the HANDHELD.
>> 
>> If not, how about for a next version?  It would be much appreciated.
>> 
> 
> We have no current plans on this as we don't control the sync
> software on the handheld.
> 
>> While we're at it, it would be great to have an app-launcher built
>> into the Mac version of Missing Sync that would trigger (for
>> example) an Applescript before or after the sync process is complete.
>> 
> 
> That's an interesting suggestion. We may consider it for a future
> version.


From sgruby at markspace.com  Tue Jul 12 17:54:50 2005
From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby)
Date: Tue Jul 12 17:54:56 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Showing Sync Profile during sync
In-Reply-To: <BEF9AF78.4648%martin.muntenbruch@gmx.de>
References: <BEF9AF78.4648%martin.muntenbruch@gmx.de>
Message-ID: <6F1B04E0-BCE9-4A00-9777-E9223FA37EC5@markspace.com>


On Jul 12, 2005, at 5:33 PM, Martin Muntenbruch wrote:

> Hello Scott,
>
> On this subject - how about showing which synch profile is selected  
> during
> sync (as a little text info note at a corner of the window).
>
> Because it's all too easy to forget to switch back to "all  
> conduits" after
> doing a special sync (say memo only)..
>

That's a good idea. We're working on some ideas for sync status and  
this might work well. However, with all the stuff we want to add, it  
might get too busy!

--
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Lead Engineer
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<http://www.markspace.com/>

Please visit <http://www.markspace.com/support/> for assistance with  
Mark/Space products.

From ml1211 at mac.com  Tue Jul 12 18:54:37 2005
From: ml1211 at mac.com (Michael Lee)
Date: Tue Jul 12 18:55:14 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Sync error with Treo 650/Cingular
Message-ID: <BEF9EC9D.545B%ml1211@mac.com>


Hello,
I am trying to synch my Treo 650 with my powerbook. Had been fine up till a
few days ago.  The error message I get is
1st. ?unable to initiate hotsync operation due to a system error?
2nd. ?Low memory error.  Please delete some data and try again?
I have 578 K free space on my Treo.  Cingular was no help, Palm One was
worse. I haven?t synced in 7 days and am getting paranoid.  Any help would
be appreciated.
From pdengler at gmail.com  Tue Jul 12 21:48:10 2005
From: pdengler at gmail.com (Pat Dengler)
Date: Tue Jul 12 21:47:35 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] iSync 2.1?
In-Reply-To: <p06200705bef9dd84e26f@[10.0.1.3]>
References: <p06200705bef9dd84e26f@[10.0.1.3]>
Message-ID: <956D3B8E-E055-43CB-8BC4-421C894E688B@gmail.com>

No problems for me either...two flawless syncs so far...Seems to be  
working better - I used to occasionally add a calendar event and  
after a sync it would appear as "New Event" rather than the name of  
the event - and that would change on the treo and my mac. Didn't  
happen today..

On Jul 12, 2005, at 1:51 , Brad Knowles wrote:

> Folks,
>
>     So, it appears that iSync 2.1 is now out (see <http:// 
> www.palminfocenter.com/view_story.asp?ID=7955>).  Can anyone offer  
> any advice or experience on how this plays with Missing Sync?
>
> -- 
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>
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>
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From kfreeman at markspace.com  Tue Jul 12 21:57:53 2005
From: kfreeman at markspace.com (Ken Freeman)
Date: Tue Jul 12 21:57:57 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Sync error with Treo 650/Cingular
In-Reply-To: <BEF9EC9D.545B%ml1211@mac.com>
Message-ID: <BEF9ED61.C32A%kfreeman@markspace.com>

You need more free space on the Treo. Delete some files until you have about
880k - 1MB available. This is NOT a limitation or requirement from Missing
Sync, but the HotSync application on the handheld. I'm not sure why it
requires that much space, but it seems to.

As for number 1, I might suggest a soft reset.

Ken


On 7/12/05 6:54 PM, "Michael Lee" <ml1211@mac.com> wrote:

> 
> Hello,
> I am trying to synch my Treo 650 with my powerbook. Had been fine up till a
> few days ago.  The error message I get is
> 1st. ?unable to initiate hotsync operation due to a system error?
> 2nd. ?Low memory error.  Please delete some data and try again?
> I have 578 K free space on my Treo.  Cingular was no help, Palm One was
> worse. I haven?t synced in 7 days and am getting paranoid.  Any help would
> be appreciated.
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From brian_hall at markspace.com  Tue Jul 12 22:13:26 2005
From: brian_hall at markspace.com (Brian Hall)
Date: Tue Jul 12 22:15:09 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Sync error with Treo 650/Cingular
In-Reply-To: <BEF9ED61.C32A%kfreeman@markspace.com>
References: <BEF9ED61.C32A%kfreeman@markspace.com>
Message-ID: <p06210203befa5328dd4a@[10.0.1.3]>

At 9:57 PM -0700 7/12/05, Ken Freeman wrote:
>You need more free space on the Treo. Delete some files until you have about
>880k - 1MB available. This is NOT a limitation or requirement from Missing
>Sync, but the HotSync application on the handheld. I'm not sure why it
>requires that much space, but it seems to.

In my own experience, you needed well over 1MB free. This happened alot
with the 650 came out and people moved from the 600 to the 650, as the new
NVFS memory system on the 650 is not as efficient as the old memory system
on the 600, so moving the exact same data from a 600 to a 650 will result
in less free space on the 650 compared to the 600. Try and move some data
to a card if you can.

Brian

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From lists at mostrom.pp.se  Wed Jul 13 01:44:21 2005
From: lists at mostrom.pp.se (Jan Erik =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mostr=F6m?=)
Date: Wed Jul 13 01:44:25 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Error 0x130
Message-ID: <d0202000a-1042-A055BA8C0EFB44FAA5FA2CC474714CD6@[192.168.0.25]>

Out of curiosity (and debugging purposes) what does this mean?

Failed to install poof.pdb
- Unexpected error number 0x130

Poof.pdb is a file that one of my Mac applications have generated but a quick
glance doesn't reveal anything. This file is about 11MB so it might be that
I've hit some limit of some kind ... so perhaps knowing what 0x130 mean might
give me a hint where to look.

The application has generated correct pdb files for smaller data sets.

                    jem
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From bobwilliams at knology.net  Wed Jul 13 15:49:00 2005
From: bobwilliams at knology.net (Robert Williams)
Date: Wed Jul 13 15:49:43 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Showing Sync Profile during sync
Message-ID: <3204121780.708079@www.chatteremail.com>

Hmmmmm
I see where e2sync was released today

I was hoping that M/S was going to beat everyone to the market :( 

-
Cheers

Robert
----------------------------
Sent From My TREO 650 SmartPhone

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Gruby <sgruby@markspace.com>
Date: Tuesday, Jul 12, 2005 7:54 pm
Subject: Re: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Showing Sync Profile during sync

On Jul 12, 2005, at 5:33 PM, Martin Muntenbruch wrote:

> Hello Scott,
>
> On this subject - how about showing which synch profile is selected  > during
> sync (as a little text info note at a corner of the window).
>
> Because it's all too easy to forget to switch back to "all  > conduits" after
> doing a special sync (say memo only)..
>

That's a good idea. We're working on some ideas for sync status and   this might work well. However, with all the stuff we want to add, it   might get too busy!

--
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Mark/Space, Inc.
<http://www.markspace.com/>

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From trevor at vocaro.com  Wed Jul 13 20:44:03 2005
From: trevor at vocaro.com (Trevor Harmon)
Date: Wed Jul 13 20:43:41 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] 10.4.2 update breaks sync?
Message-ID: <7FB048B9-98B3-4002-845E-84D946100BE0@vocaro.com>

I have been unable to hotsync ever since upgrading to Mac OS X  
10.4.2. It worked fine under 10.4.1. I am using a Sprint Treo 650  
(v1.12) with Missing Sync 4.0.5. Is anyone else seeing this behavior?

Trevor

From wmlaven at platinotype.com  Wed Jul 13 21:16:47 2005
From: wmlaven at platinotype.com (William Laven)
Date: Wed Jul 13 21:16:50 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] 10.4.2 update breaks sync?
In-Reply-To: <7FB048B9-98B3-4002-845E-84D946100BE0@vocaro.com>
References: <7FB048B9-98B3-4002-845E-84D946100BE0@vocaro.com>
Message-ID: <21DE6ED5-AEBE-4B6E-B96E-F552CDA5D35C@platinotype.com>

I updated to 10.4.2 with Missing Sync 4.0.5 and it works fine. I then  
installed the new iSync 2.1 and all is still well -- that's syncing  
with a Palm Tungsten C.


On Jul 13, 2005, at 8:44 PM, Trevor Harmon wrote:

> I have been unable to hotsync ever since upgrading to Mac OS X  
> 10.4.2. It worked fine under 10.4.1. I am using a Sprint Treo 650  
> (v1.12) with Missing Sync 4.0.5. Is anyone else seeing this behavior?
>
> Trevor
>
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From aller at umich.edu  Wed Jul 13 21:50:37 2005
From: aller at umich.edu (Roger A. Ruedisueli)
Date: Wed Jul 13 21:50:59 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] 10.4.2 update breaks sync?
In-Reply-To: <21DE6ED5-AEBE-4B6E-B96E-F552CDA5D35C@platinotype.com>
References: <7FB048B9-98B3-4002-845E-84D946100BE0@vocaro.com>
	<21DE6ED5-AEBE-4B6E-B96E-F552CDA5D35C@platinotype.com>
Message-ID: <55A5A549-D666-4BE0-BABF-C63D4B2654ED@umich.edu>

No problems with a LifeDrive and that same set of software.

Roger


On Jul 13, 2005, at 9:16 PM, William Laven wrote:

> I updated to 10.4.2 with Missing Sync 4.0.5 and it works fine. I  
> then installed the new iSync 2.1 and all is still well -- that's  
> syncing with a Palm Tungsten C.
>
>
> On Jul 13, 2005, at 8:44 PM, Trevor Harmon wrote:
>
>
>> I have been unable to hotsync ever since upgrading to Mac OS X  
>> 10.4.2. It worked fine under 10.4.1. I am using a Sprint Treo 650  
>> (v1.12) with Missing Sync 4.0.5. Is anyone else seeing this behavior?
>>
>> Trevor
>>
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From trevor at vocaro.com  Wed Jul 13 22:10:31 2005
From: trevor at vocaro.com (Trevor Harmon)
Date: Wed Jul 13 22:10:06 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] 10.4.2 update breaks sync?
In-Reply-To: <55A5A549-D666-4BE0-BABF-C63D4B2654ED@umich.edu>
References: <7FB048B9-98B3-4002-845E-84D946100BE0@vocaro.com>
	<21DE6ED5-AEBE-4B6E-B96E-F552CDA5D35C@platinotype.com>
	<55A5A549-D666-4BE0-BABF-C63D4B2654ED@umich.edu>
Message-ID: <18917D34-A5F6-4010-96D7-445307D1121D@vocaro.com>

On Jul 13, 2005, at 9:50 PM, Roger A. Ruedisueli wrote:

> No problems with a LifeDrive and that same set of software.

Hmm... Now that I think about it, the Sprint Treo 650 1.12 update was  
released fairly recently, and I may not have tried syncing since  
then. Perhaps the Sprint update is the issue? Anyone else  
successfully using it?

Thanks for the reports guys,

Trevor

From kfreeman at markspace.com  Thu Jul 14 08:38:28 2005
From: kfreeman at markspace.com (Ken Freeman)
Date: Thu Jul 14 08:38:33 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] 10.4.2 update breaks sync?
In-Reply-To: <18917D34-A5F6-4010-96D7-445307D1121D@vocaro.com>
Message-ID: <BEFBD504.C489%kfreeman@markspace.com>

Just a thought, make sure that the Missing Sync pref option "Enable
synchronization/sharing at login" is enabled. If this option is NOT enabled
Missing Sync has to be open in order to sync.

A soft reset of your device is also a good idea.

Ken


On 7/13/05 10:10 PM, "Trevor Harmon" <trevor@vocaro.com> wrote:

> On Jul 13, 2005, at 9:50 PM, Roger A. Ruedisueli wrote:
> 
>> No problems with a LifeDrive and that same set of software.
> 
> Hmm... Now that I think about it, the Sprint Treo 650 1.12 update was
> released fairly recently, and I may not have tried syncing since
> then. Perhaps the Sprint update is the issue? Anyone else
> successfully using it?
> 
> Thanks for the reports guys,
> 
> Trevor
> 
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From trevor at vocaro.com  Thu Jul 14 15:06:22 2005
From: trevor at vocaro.com (Trevor Harmon)
Date: Thu Jul 14 15:05:58 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] 10.4.2 update breaks sync?
In-Reply-To: <BEFBD504.C489%kfreeman@markspace.com>
References: <BEFBD504.C489%kfreeman@markspace.com>
Message-ID: <C205C3AB-920E-40DB-861D-D3A7B9B1F040@vocaro.com>

On Jul 14, 2005, at 8:38 AM, Ken Freeman wrote:

> Just a thought, make sure that the Missing Sync pref option "Enable
> synchronization/sharing at login" is enabled. If this option is NOT  
> enabled
> Missing Sync has to be open in order to sync.
>
> A soft reset of your device is also a good idea.

I tried the above, but it didn't help. I then restarted my Mac, and  
suddenly all is well! Shoot, I thought rebooting was something only  
Windows users had to do... :)

Anyway, everything's back to normal now, so thanks for all your  
responses everyone!

Trevor

From miketall at mac.com  Thu Jul 14 15:16:43 2005
From: miketall at mac.com (Mac Mike)
Date: Thu Jul 14 15:16:54 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] 10.4.2 update breaks sync?
In-Reply-To: <C205C3AB-920E-40DB-861D-D3A7B9B1F040@vocaro.com>
Message-ID: <BEFC5C8B.192F%miketall@mac.com>

Trevor,


>> Just a thought, make sure that the Missing Sync pref option "Enable
>> synchronization/sharing at login" is enabled. If this option is NOT
>> enabled Missing Sync has to be open in order to sync.
>> 
>> A soft reset of your device is also a good idea.

 
> I tried the above, but it didn't help. I then restarted my Mac, and
> suddenly all is well! Shoot, I thought rebooting was something only
> Windows users had to do... :)
> Trevor


It's still a good idea to reboot every so often, especially when things
start to go quirky.  Make sure you also "Repair Permissions" with Mac's Disk
Utility program.  In fact, I'd suggest running this every time you install a
program, before & after.

-Mike


From trevor at vocaro.com  Thu Jul 14 15:28:43 2005
From: trevor at vocaro.com (Trevor Harmon)
Date: Thu Jul 14 15:28:15 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] 10.4.2 update breaks sync?
In-Reply-To: <BEFC5C8B.192F%miketall@mac.com>
References: <BEFC5C8B.192F%miketall@mac.com>
Message-ID: <51314523-320B-4725-8E4C-98479D5734BF@vocaro.com>

On Jul 14, 2005, at 3:16 PM, Mac Mike wrote:

> It's still a good idea to reboot every so often, especially when  
> things
> start to go quirky.

Right, but I had just rebooted the day before after installing  
10.4.2, so I didn't think I would have to reboot again. Thanks for  
the tip about permission repair; I always forget about that...

Trevor


From mith at mac.com  Thu Jul 14 15:38:25 2005
From: mith at mac.com (Michael Thompson)
Date: Thu Jul 14 15:38:45 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Launch Failure
In-Reply-To: <BEFC5C8B.192F%miketall@mac.com>
References: <BEFC5C8B.192F%miketall@mac.com>
Message-ID: <D35394B1-6E05-4EDA-8AA4-4B2CC6A50DB8@mac.com>



H everyone,

Please help.

Ever since I installed Missing Sync I get
this message when I start my computer:


Application Launch Failure
The application "Transport Monitor" could not be launched because of  
a shared library error: "6<Transport Monitor><Transport  
Monitor><TransportLib><>"


Is there something I should do to make this
go away?

Best,

Mike


From pscott at extremesims.com  Thu Jul 14 16:11:42 2005
From: pscott at extremesims.com (Patrick Scott)
Date: Thu Jul 14 16:11:49 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Launch Failure
In-Reply-To: <D35394B1-6E05-4EDA-8AA4-4B2CC6A50DB8@mac.com>
References: <BEFC5C8B.192F%miketall@mac.com>
	<D35394B1-6E05-4EDA-8AA4-4B2CC6A50DB8@mac.com>
Message-ID: <403CA49D-F36D-4046-AA52-23739FA0C61B@extremesims.com>

Did you upgrade  Palm Desktop to the latest version? I had the same  
prob - so I uninstalled Missing Sync, reboot, reinstall, reboot -  
everything is cool./

On Jul 14, 2005, at 6:38 PM, Michael Thompson wrote:

>
>
> H everyone,
>
> Please help.
>
> Ever since I installed Missing Sync I get
> this message when I start my computer:
>
>
> Application Launch Failure
> The application "Transport Monitor" could not be launched because  
> of a shared library error: "6<Transport Monitor><Transport  
> Monitor><TransportLib><>"
>
>
> Is there something I should do to make this
> go away?
>
> Best,
>
> Mike
>
>
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From miketall at mac.com  Thu Jul 14 17:24:05 2005
From: miketall at mac.com (Mac Mike)
Date: Thu Jul 14 17:24:21 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Launch Failure
In-Reply-To: <403CA49D-F36D-4046-AA52-23739FA0C61B@extremesims.com>
Message-ID: <BEFC7A65.1948%miketall@mac.com>

Mike,

Also make sure that you do not see Either the "Transport Monitor" or "Palm
Desktop" app in your Login/Startup items.  In earlier versions of Missing
Sync, these items where not always removed after an install.  I cannot speak
for the latest version of Missing Sync as I already deleted these from my
login items.

Michael Tall
Visual Cafe

> Did you upgrade  Palm Desktop to the latest version? I had the same
> prob - so I uninstalled Missing Sync, reboot, reinstall, reboot -
> everything is cool./


>> Ever since I installed Missing Sync I get
>> this message when I start my computer:
>> 
>> 
>> Application Launch Failure
>> The application "Transport Monitor" could not be launched because
>> of a shared library error: "6<Transport Monitor><Transport
>> Monitor><TransportLib><>"
>> 
>> 
>> Is there something I should do to make this
>> go away?
>> 
>> Mike


From mith at mac.com  Thu Jul 14 17:53:02 2005
From: mith at mac.com (Michael Thompson)
Date: Thu Jul 14 17:53:31 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Launch Failure
In-Reply-To: <BEFC7A65.1948%miketall@mac.com>
References: <BEFC7A65.1948%miketall@mac.com>
Message-ID: <A5B49CAB-881F-4D8F-AF3F-F7DA14999B27@mac.com>

That worked.

Thank you, to
you and also to Patrick.



On Jul 14, 2005, at 8:24 PM, Mac Mike wrote:

> Mike,
>
> Also make sure that you do not see Either the "Transport Monitor"  
> or "Palm
> Desktop" app in your Login/Startup items.  In earlier versions of  
> Missing
> Sync, these items where not always removed after an install.  I  
> cannot speak
> for the latest version of Missing Sync as I already deleted these  
> from my
> login items.
>
> Michael Tall
> Visual Cafe
>
>
>> Did you upgrade  Palm Desktop to the latest version? I had the same
>> prob - so I uninstalled Missing Sync, reboot, reinstall, reboot -
>> everything is cool./
>>
>
>
>
>>> Ever since I installed Missing Sync I get
>>> this message when I start my computer:
>>>
>>>
>>> Application Launch Failure
>>> The application "Transport Monitor" could not be launched because
>>> of a shared library error: "6<Transport Monitor><Transport
>>> Monitor><TransportLib><>"
>>>
>>>
>>> Is there something I should do to make this
>>> go away?
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>
>
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From fred at delicatefunk.com  Thu Jul 14 19:21:12 2005
From: fred at delicatefunk.com (Fred)
Date: Thu Jul 14 19:21:20 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Avantgo contents on expension card,
	impossible ?
Message-ID: <c069a4cf7ee5d03ae45ab74af66e2664@delicatefunk.com>

Hello,

I've tried to make  all of the Avantgo contents are synchronized on my 
expansion card (SD 256) rather than the RAM of my T3.
For that, i have launched  AG connect, then in parameters : "Use the 
card SD 256".
...Made a hotsync...and nothing, files are always in my RAM.

I just wonder if it's not a limitation of the Mark/space Conduit for 
Avant-go ?

Is there someone of you who succeed in that operation ?

Thanks for your help,

Fred Morel

From csduke at hummosa.com  Thu Jul 14 19:44:25 2005
From: csduke at hummosa.com (Chris Duke)
Date: Thu Jul 14 19:44:29 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] 10.4.2 update breaks sync?
In-Reply-To: <BEFBD504.C489%kfreeman@markspace.com>
References: <BEFBD504.C489%kfreeman@markspace.com>
Message-ID: <D67649AA-3C2F-4773-A750-B5E53EF9CE18@hummosa.com>

Even though I have "enable at login" option on, Missing Sync doesn't  
start when I push the sync button the on the cradle. I have to start  
MS manually.

Chris

On Jul 14, 2005, at 8:38 AM, Ken Freeman wrote:

> Just a thought, make sure that the Missing Sync pref option "Enable
> synchronization/sharing at login" is enabled. If this option is NOT  
> enabled
> Missing Sync has to be open in order to sync.
>
> A soft reset of your device is also a good idea.
>
> Ken
>
>
> On 7/13/05 10:10 PM, "Trevor Harmon" <trevor@vocaro.com> wrote:
>
>
>> On Jul 13, 2005, at 9:50 PM, Roger A. Ruedisueli wrote:
>>
>>
>>> No problems with a LifeDrive and that same set of software.
>>>
>>
>> Hmm... Now that I think about it, the Sprint Treo 650 1.12 update was
>> released fairly recently, and I may not have tried syncing since
>> then. Perhaps the Sprint update is the issue? Anyone else
>> successfully using it?
>>
>> Thanks for the reports guys,
>>
>> Trevor
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com
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>> at:
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>
>
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From sgruby at markspace.com  Thu Jul 14 20:05:41 2005
From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby)
Date: Thu Jul 14 20:05:47 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Avantgo contents on expension card,
	impossible ?
In-Reply-To: <c069a4cf7ee5d03ae45ab74af66e2664@delicatefunk.com>
References: <c069a4cf7ee5d03ae45ab74af66e2664@delicatefunk.com>
Message-ID: <97314014-6F52-4947-97D7-DD7688C63527@markspace.com>


On Jul 14, 2005, at 7:21 PM, Fred wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I've tried to make  all of the Avantgo contents are synchronized on  
> my expansion card (SD 256) rather than the RAM of my T3.
> For that, i have launched  AG connect, then in parameters : "Use  
> the card SD 256".
> ...Made a hotsync...and nothing, files are always in my RAM.
>
> I just wonder if it's not a limitation of the Mark/space Conduit  
> for Avant-go ?
>

This is a limitation of the conduit; we have this on our feature list  
for a potential future release. If you need to sync to your card, use  
the Internet Sharing feature of Missing Sync and start the updating  
from your device. The AvantGo Assistant in Missing Sync explains how  
to do this.


--
Scott Gruby
Lead Engineer
Mark/Space, Inc.
<http://www.markspace.com/>

Please visit <http://www.markspace.com/support/> for assistance with  
Mark/Space products.

From daakus at gmail.com  Fri Jul 15 00:11:49 2005
From: daakus at gmail.com (daaku s)
Date: Fri Jul 15 00:11:57 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Palm Desktop Required?
Message-ID: <8f0e99f6050715001141ab90db@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I was about to repartition my computer, and since I was going to be
reinstalling Missing Sync for PalmOS, I wanted to find out if I *need*
to install Palm Desktop for it to work.

I'm using a Treo 650, and Tiger. Will probably be updating to 10.4.2
and iSync 2.1 before I install Missing Sync (unless someone suggests I
should do it in a different order!).

-daaku

From plessard at mac.com  Fri Jul 15 05:10:15 2005
From: plessard at mac.com (Pascal Lessard)
Date: Fri Jul 15 05:10:30 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Palm Desktop Required?
In-Reply-To: <8f0e99f6050715001141ab90db@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8f0e99f6050715001141ab90db@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5E884AFC-B1BE-4F72-961A-B94E312C6E88@mac.com>

Hi Daaku !

     Le 2005-07-15 ? 03:11, daaku s a ?crit :

> I was about to repartition my computer, and since I was going to be
> reinstalling Missing Sync for PalmOS, I wanted to find out if I *need*
> to install Palm Desktop for it to work.

     There is no need to reinstall Palm Desktop to use Missing Sync.  
You may want to keep the conduits and desktop apps specific to your  
Treo before you reinstall, however. Otherwise you will have to  
install Palm Desktop to get them ! (Examples are Note Pad and Voice  
Memo.)

     Yours,

                 Pascal Lessard


From bobwilliams at knology.net  Fri Jul 15 16:38:07 2005
From: bobwilliams at knology.net (Robert Williams)
Date: Fri Jul 15 16:38:14 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] E2Sync?
In-Reply-To: <5E884AFC-B1BE-4F72-961A-B94E312C6E88@mac.com>
Message-ID: <BEFDB30F.E409%bobwilliams@knology.net>

I see where a Tiger version that purports to sync everything has been
released...anyone been brave enough to try it? (And when will M|S come out
with a competitor? :-)


From ben.steeves at gmail.com  Fri Jul 15 17:18:47 2005
From: ben.steeves at gmail.com (Ben Steeves)
Date: Fri Jul 15 17:18:50 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] E2Sync?
In-Reply-To: <BEFDB30F.E409%bobwilliams@knology.net>
References: <5E884AFC-B1BE-4F72-961A-B94E312C6E88@mac.com>
	<BEFDB30F.E409%bobwilliams@knology.net>
Message-ID: <7ebb24d10507151718f78dd71@mail.gmail.com>

On 7/15/05, Robert Williams <bobwilliams@knology.net> wrote:
> I see where a Tiger version that purports to sync everything has been
> released...anyone been brave enough to try it? (And when will M|S come out
> with a competitor? :-)

I'm brave.  Or stupid.  I installed it, started up iSync, clicked on
the "e2" device, and hung iSync.  Repeatedly.  I can't even delete the
thing.

-- 
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From bobwilliams at knology.net  Fri Jul 15 18:34:45 2005
From: bobwilliams at knology.net (Robert Williams)
Date: Fri Jul 15 18:34:49 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] E2Sync?
In-Reply-To: <BEFDB30F.E409%bobwilliams@knology.net>
Message-ID: <BEFDCE65.E41B%bobwilliams@knology.net>

My findings EXACTLY! -- AND AND  AND ... I finally got it to work and it
duplicated *everything* - contacts, to dos, and appointments.

OK 6+ hours to fix this and I am waiting for Missing Sync to come out with
the solution!


On 7/15/05 7:18 PM, "Ben Steeves" <ben.steeves@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 7/15/05, Robert Williams <bobwilliams@knology.net> wrote:
>> I see where a Tiger version that purports to sync everything has been
>> released...anyone been brave enough to try it? (And when will M|S come out
>> with a competitor? :-)
> 
> I'm brave.  Or stupid.  I installed it, started up iSync, clicked on
> the "e2" device, and hung iSync.  Repeatedly.  I can't even delete the
> thing.


From pscott at extremesims.com  Fri Jul 15 18:56:34 2005
From: pscott at extremesims.com (Patrick Scott)
Date: Fri Jul 15 18:56:36 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] E2Sync?
In-Reply-To: <BEFDB30F.E409%bobwilliams@knology.net>
References: <BEFDB30F.E409%bobwilliams@knology.net>
Message-ID: <84AC9C78-EEF2-47EC-80A5-1F77B5F8F96A@extremesims.com>

Yes, I've been using it for a while. Previous versions would often  
lead to duplicates. Having just cleaned everything up recently (sans  
e2sync), I reinstalled it today. Got some duplicates, but not overly  
bad. What IS bad is that now my iCal data will not sync to .Mac. I've  
resorted to backing up the iCal DB, and manually copying from mac to  
Mac.

Let me add this:  We recently moved to Exchange server at work. We  
have thousands of employees world-wide, and quite a few in our Reston  
and Dulles campuses use Macs. It's been a nightmare. A lot of us  
geeks have Treos as well, so anything - whether with iCal or  
Entourage - would be helpful. (Not that the Windows folks have had it  
any easier. Shame, since Outlook and Exchange is actually a good  
groupware solution.)

On 15 Jul 2005, at 19:38 , Robert Williams wrote:

> I see where a Tiger version that purports to sync everything has been
> released...anyone been brave enough to try it? (And when will M|S  
> come out
> with a competitor? :-)
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com
> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives  
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>

From henryseiden at bellsouth.net  Sat Jul 16 04:31:59 2005
From: henryseiden at bellsouth.net (Henry Seiden)
Date: Sat Jul 16 04:32:08 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] 10.4.2 update breaks sync?
In-Reply-To: <D67649AA-3C2F-4773-A750-B5E53EF9CE18@hummosa.com>
Message-ID: <BEFE686F.2ADE%henryseiden@bellsouth.net>

I had that happen a couple of times a while ago, after the OS 10.4.1 upgrade
and made sure the "Enable at log-in at Starting/Sharing login" was checked,
which it was (and always has been). I forgot about the problem after that.
Oh, did the other recommended thing too- soft reset the Cli?.

But then, Lo! As if by magic, it has worked fine since and tried a sync
specifically to check it after the last restart (yet another system software
update), without my actually doing anything. Does this make sense?

Palm device: Cli? PEG-NX80/U
Missing Sync: 4.05 (63)
MAC: G5 dual 2.0GHz/1.25GB

Henry

On 7/14/05 22:44, "Chris Duke" <csduke@hummosa.com> wrote:

> Even though I have "enable at login" option on, Missing Sync doesn't
> start when I push the sync button the on the cradle. I have to start
> MS manually.
> 
> Chris
> 
> On Jul 14, 2005, at 8:38 AM, Ken Freeman wrote:
> 
>> Just a thought, make sure that the Missing Sync pref option "Enable
>> synchronization/sharing at login" is enabled. If this option is NOT
>> enabled
>> Missing Sync has to be open in order to sync.
>> 
>> A soft reset of your device is also a good idea.
>> 
>> Ken
>> 
>> 
>> On 7/13/05 10:10 PM, "Trevor Harmon" <trevor@vocaro.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 13, 2005, at 9:50 PM, Roger A. Ruedisueli wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> No problems with a LifeDrive and that same set of software.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hmm... Now that I think about it, the Sprint Treo 650 1.12 update was
>>> released fairly recently, and I may not have tried syncing since
>>> then. Perhaps the Sprint update is the issue? Anyone else
>>> successfully using it?
>>> 
>>> Thanks for the reports guys,
>>> 
>>> Trevor
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list
>>> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com
>>> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives
>>> can be found
>>> at:
>>> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk
>>> 
>> 
>> 
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>> can be found at:
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>> 
>> 
> 
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From henryseiden at bellsouth.net  Sat Jul 16 04:39:23 2005
From: henryseiden at bellsouth.net (Henry Seiden)
Date: Sat Jul 16 04:39:28 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] E2Sync?
In-Reply-To: <BEFDCE65.E41B%bobwilliams@knology.net>
Message-ID: <BEFE6A2B.2AE1%henryseiden@bellsouth.net>

Duplicated contacts, etc. can be fixed easily on the Palm side, then sync
properly with MS, overwriting your desktop. Be aware if you use something
like Entourage or newer desktop software that many fields are added beside
the sync'd field from Palm so this may not be suitable for your situation.
YMMV. 

The utility to do this is probably freeware by now, it's so old, but works
great. Look for Undupe. I used to use it all the time on Palm Desktop sync
issues. I no longer have a need, but would not part with it (just in case).
It helped me out when Now Utilities was first on Palm 3 OS (if this gives
you any idea of the age).

Henry

On 7/15/05 21:34, "Robert Williams" <bobwilliams@knology.net> wrote:

> My findings EXACTLY! -- AND AND  AND ... I finally got it to work and it
> duplicated *everything* - contacts, to dos, and appointments.
> 
> OK 6+ hours to fix this and I am waiting for Missing Sync to come out with


From fred at delicatefunk.com  Sat Jul 16 05:41:17 2005
From: fred at delicatefunk.com (Fred)
Date: Sat Jul 16 05:41:34 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Avantgo contents on expension card,
	impossible ?
In-Reply-To: <97314014-6F52-4947-97D7-DD7688C63527@markspace.com>
References: <c069a4cf7ee5d03ae45ab74af66e2664@delicatefunk.com>
	<97314014-6F52-4947-97D7-DD7688C63527@markspace.com>
Message-ID: <aae55093ca71e44170270e473b9a8bcc@delicatefunk.com>

It would be great to add this feature for the next release because i've 
already tried to sync via the Internet Sharing, but the time it takes 
for that is not acceptable (about 15 minutes to sync Avantgo (3M of 
channels) via Internet sharing ).

Anyway, if i come back to the MAL conduit, do you know if this fonction 
will work ?

Thanks for your help, Scott,

Fred Morel

Le 15 juil. 05, ? 05:05, Scott Gruby a ?crit :

>
> On Jul 14, 2005, at 7:21 PM, Fred wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I've tried to make  all of the Avantgo contents are synchronized on 
>> my expansion card (SD 256) rather than the RAM of my T3.
>> For that, i have launched  AG connect, then in parameters : "Use the 
>> card SD 256".
>> ...Made a hotsync...and nothing, files are always in my RAM.
>>
>> I just wonder if it's not a limitation of the Mark/space Conduit for 
>> Avant-go ?
>>
>
> This is a limitation of the conduit; we have this on our feature list 
> for a potential future release. If you need to sync to your card, use 
> the Internet Sharing feature of Missing Sync and start the updating 
> from your device. The AvantGo Assistant in Missing Sync explains how 
> to do this.
>
>
> --
> Scott Gruby
> Lead Engineer
> Mark/Space, Inc.
> <http://www.markspace.com/>
>
> Please visit <http://www.markspace.com/support/> for assistance with 
> Mark/Space products.
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can 
> be found at:
> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk
>


From sgruby at markspace.com  Sat Jul 16 06:59:43 2005
From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby)
Date: Sat Jul 16 06:59:56 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Avantgo contents on expension card,
	impossible ?
In-Reply-To: <aae55093ca71e44170270e473b9a8bcc@delicatefunk.com>
References: <c069a4cf7ee5d03ae45ab74af66e2664@delicatefunk.com>
	<97314014-6F52-4947-97D7-DD7688C63527@markspace.com>
	<aae55093ca71e44170270e473b9a8bcc@delicatefunk.com>
Message-ID: <B9ED374C-D21F-42D0-82D2-B5A6F42DFBBD@markspace.com>


On Jul 16, 2005, at 5:41 AM, Fred wrote:

> Anyway, if i come back to the MAL conduit, do you know if this  
> fonction will work ?
>

It won't; our AvantGo Conduit is based on the MAL Conduit and that  
functionality wasn't in there. Any enterprising developer can take  
the source code to our conduit and work on it as we've posted it on  
our developers page.

--
Scott Gruby
Lead Engineer
Mark/Space, Inc.
<http://www.markspace.com/>

Please visit <http://www.markspace.com/support/> for assistance with  
Mark/Space products.

From fred at delicatefunk.com  Sat Jul 16 08:23:27 2005
From: fred at delicatefunk.com (Fred)
Date: Sat Jul 16 08:23:39 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Avantgo contents on expension card,
	impossible ?
In-Reply-To: <B9ED374C-D21F-42D0-82D2-B5A6F42DFBBD@markspace.com>
References: <c069a4cf7ee5d03ae45ab74af66e2664@delicatefunk.com>
	<97314014-6F52-4947-97D7-DD7688C63527@markspace.com>
	<aae55093ca71e44170270e473b9a8bcc@delicatefunk.com>
	<B9ED374C-D21F-42D0-82D2-B5A6F42DFBBD@markspace.com>
Message-ID: <8267b94dc05872b1fcc4fa111b3bcfe9@delicatefunk.com>


Le 16 juil. 05, ? 15:59, Scott Gruby a ?crit :

>  Any enterprising developer can take the source code to our conduit 
> and work on it as we've posted it on our developers page.

Unfortunatly, i don't have the abilities to  develop that conduit.
I really hope that someone of the developers could do this for us...

Anyway, thanks for the information, Scott...

Best regards

Fred

From bobwilliams at knology.net  Sun Jul 17 13:29:08 2005
From: bobwilliams at knology.net (Robert Williams)
Date: Sun Jul 17 13:29:12 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] E2Sync?
In-Reply-To: <BEFE6A2B.2AE1%henryseiden@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <BF0029C4.E496%bobwilliams@knology.net>

Thanks for the tip Henry!


On 7/16/05 6:39 AM, "Henry Seiden" <henryseiden@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> Duplicated contacts, etc. can be fixed easily on the Palm side, then sync
> properly with MS, overwriting your desktop. Be aware if you use something
> like Entourage or newer desktop software that many fields are added beside
> the sync'd field from Palm so this may not be suitable for your situation.
> YMMV. 
> 
> The utility to do this is probably freeware by now, it's so old, but works
> great. Look for Undupe. I used to use it all the time on Palm Desktop sync
> issues. I no longer have a need, but would not part with it (just in case).
> It helped me out when Now Utilities was first on Palm 3 OS (if this gives
> you any idea of the age).
> 
> Henry
> 
> On 7/15/05 21:34, "Robert Williams" <bobwilliams@knology.net> wrote:
> 
>> My findings EXACTLY! -- AND AND  AND ... I finally got it to work and it
>> duplicated *everything* - contacts, to dos, and appointments.
>> 
>> OK 6+ hours to fix this and I am waiting for Missing Sync to come out with
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list
> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com
> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found
> at:
> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk
> 


From pscott at extremesims.com  Sun Jul 17 15:31:49 2005
From: pscott at extremesims.com (Patrick Scott)
Date: Sun Jul 17 15:31:54 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] E2Sync?
In-Reply-To: <BF0029C4.E496%bobwilliams@knology.net>
References: <BF0029C4.E496%bobwilliams@knology.net>
Message-ID: <6CC8ACCD-7BE4-417F-9920-E2195621EBBA@extremesims.com>

Another addendum - I have had an odd problem with e2sync, Entourage,  
and iSync to .Mac. The devleoper just emailed me, and is working on  
it , and it's not the first time I have gotten a response to bugs. If  
you read VersionTracker, you will probably note that there are a lot  
of negative feedback entries. Just wanted to balance the full picture.

On Jul 17, 2005, at 4:29 PM, Robert Williams wrote:

> Thanks for the tip Henry!
>
>
> On 7/16/05 6:39 AM, "Henry Seiden" <henryseiden@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>
>> Duplicated contacts, etc. can be fixed easily on the Palm side,  
>> then sync
>> properly with MS, overwriting your desktop. Be aware if you use  
>> something
>> like Entourage or newer desktop software that many fields are  
>> added beside
>> the sync'd field from Palm so this may not be suitable for your  
>> situation.
>> YMMV.
>>
>> The utility to do this is probably freeware by now, it's so old,  
>> but works
>> great. Look for Undupe. I used to use it all the time on Palm  
>> Desktop sync
>> issues. I no longer have a need, but would not part with it (just  
>> in case).
>> It helped me out when Now Utilities was first on Palm 3 OS (if  
>> this gives
>> you any idea of the age).
>>
>> Henry
>>
>> On 7/15/05 21:34, "Robert Williams" <bobwilliams@knology.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> My findings EXACTLY! -- AND AND  AND ... I finally got it to work  
>>> and it
>>> duplicated *everything* - contacts, to dos, and appointments.
>>>
>>> OK 6+ hours to fix this and I am waiting for Missing Sync to come  
>>> out with
>>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list
>> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com
>> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives  
>> can be found
>> at:
>> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk
>>
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> can be found at:
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>

From furashg at alumni.bowdoin.edu  Sun Jul 17 15:35:54 2005
From: furashg at alumni.bowdoin.edu (furashgf)
Date: Sun Jul 17 15:36:02 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] iCal Categories for ToDo Yet?
In-Reply-To: <200507161900.j6GJ0e9B027310@sparrow.markspace.com>
Message-ID: <000001c58b1f$e52436d0$0d02a8c0@ca.mcao.maricopa.gov>

Does anyone know if the latest version of Tiger / isync finally has support
for to-do categories with palm?

From trevor at vocaro.com  Sun Jul 17 15:56:48 2005
From: trevor at vocaro.com (Trevor Harmon)
Date: Sun Jul 17 15:56:29 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] iCal Categories for ToDo Yet?
In-Reply-To: <000001c58b1f$e52436d0$0d02a8c0@ca.mcao.maricopa.gov>
References: <000001c58b1f$e52436d0$0d02a8c0@ca.mcao.maricopa.gov>
Message-ID: <7F5B0306-2B0D-4C28-845B-46DBFB0F9654@vocaro.com>

On Jul 17, 2005, at 3:35 PM, furashgf wrote:

> Does anyone know if the latest version of Tiger / isync finally has  
> support
> for to-do categories with palm?

To my knowledge, no.

Trevor

From bobwilliams at knology.net  Sun Jul 17 16:53:54 2005
From: bobwilliams at knology.net (Robert Williams)
Date: Sun Jul 17 16:53:58 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] E2Sync?
In-Reply-To: <6CC8ACCD-7BE4-417F-9920-E2195621EBBA@extremesims.com>
Message-ID: <BF0059C2.E4A4%bobwilliams@knology.net>

Oh, agreed - IMHO e2Sync is evil - I am just going to wait for Mark|Space to
come out with a conduit - because:
a: I know they will do it right
b: It won't hose my Treo or Entourage DB :-)


On 7/17/05 5:31 PM, "Patrick Scott" <pscott@extremesims.com> wrote:

> Another addendum - I have had an odd problem with e2sync, Entourage,
> and iSync to .Mac. The devleoper just emailed me, and is working on
> it , and it's not the first time I have gotten a response to bugs. If
> you read VersionTracker, you will probably note that there are a lot
> of negative feedback entries. Just wanted to balance the full picture.
> 
> On Jul 17, 2005, at 4:29 PM, Robert Williams wrote:
> 
>> Thanks for the tip Henry!
>> 
>> 
>> On 7/16/05 6:39 AM, "Henry Seiden" <henryseiden@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> Duplicated contacts, etc. can be fixed easily on the Palm side,
>>> then sync
>>> properly with MS, overwriting your desktop. Be aware if you use
>>> something
>>> like Entourage or newer desktop software that many fields are
>>> added beside
>>> the sync'd field from Palm so this may not be suitable for your
>>> situation.
>>> YMMV.
>>> 
>>> The utility to do this is probably freeware by now, it's so old,
>>> but works
>>> great. Look for Undupe. I used to use it all the time on Palm
>>> Desktop sync
>>> issues. I no longer have a need, but would not part with it (just
>>> in case).
>>> It helped me out when Now Utilities was first on Palm 3 OS (if
>>> this gives
>>> you any idea of the age).
>>> 
>>> Henry
>>> 
>>> On 7/15/05 21:34, "Robert Williams" <bobwilliams@knology.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> My findings EXACTLY! -- AND AND  AND ... I finally got it to work
>>>> and it
>>>> duplicated *everything* - contacts, to dos, and appointments.
>>>> 
>>>> OK 6+ hours to fix this and I am waiting for Missing Sync to come
>>>> out with
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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From miketall at mac.com  Sun Jul 17 19:26:01 2005
From: miketall at mac.com (Mac Mike)
Date: Sun Jul 17 19:26:09 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] E2Sync?
In-Reply-To: <BF0059C2.E4A4%bobwilliams@knology.net>
Message-ID: <BF008B79.1A70%miketall@mac.com>

I've been reading all the comments on e2Sync and have been thinking a lot
about posting a comment.  I will try to relay my experience as factual as
possible without the emotional hoop-la.  Anytime somebody posts something
negative, it seems they are open-season for being slammed.  Please be
considerate, and realize these are only the facts as seen by me.

I tried e2Sync while it was still in Beta.  I never got it to work except
for it installing an unexpected "e2Sync" category.  Note... that e2Sync
appears to have full use of categories in their feature set now.  At that
time, I just needed software that worked without having to contact
developers or go through a few days of support.  I posted a truthful comment
on VersionTracker.com, and within a few hours the developer completely
slammed me on a reply posting to Version Tracker.  He even posted my full
name for the world to see.  Wow!

I realize this is probably a passion of his, but as a user, I see any
software as a product that will get the job done or not.  There is no
emotional involvement on my part.  So I meant no 'foul play' to the designer
in my comments.

However, his response scared me.  I've never had a developer single me out
by name and give me a little slam in a public forum.  At that point, I
decided it was just best not to use the product even if it eventually ended
up working.  I had and continue using Paul Berkowitz' scripts for Entourage
to iCal/Address Book syncing.  They are not integrated to iSync, HotSync, or
Missing Sync, but they do an incredible job, and are highly flexible in
their feature set.

I really do believe the developer of e2Sync is trying to make a great
product and doing everything he can to work on issues as they arise.  At the
same time, I want to make sure that my friends here in this group are aware
of my experience as well.

Regards,
Michael



On 7/17/05 7:53 PM, "Robert Williams" <bobwilliams@knology.net> wrote:
> Oh, agreed - IMHO e2Sync is evil - I am just going to wait for Mark|Space to
> come out with a conduit - because:
> a: I know they will do it right
> b: It won't hose my Treo or Entourage DB :-)



> On 7/17/05 5:31 PM, "Patrick Scott" <pscott@extremesims.com> wrote:
>> Another addendum - I have had an odd problem with e2sync, Entourage,
>> and iSync to .Mac. The devleoper just emailed me, and is working on
>> it , and it's not the first time I have gotten a response to bugs. If
>> you read VersionTracker, you will probably note that there are a lot
>> of negative feedback entries. Just wanted to balance the full picture.



>>> On 7/16/05 6:39 AM, "Henry Seiden" <henryseiden@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>>> Duplicated contacts, etc. can be fixed easily on the Palm side,
>>>> then sync
>>>> properly with MS, overwriting your desktop. Be aware if you use
>>>> something
>>>> like Entourage or newer desktop software that many fields are
>>>> added beside
>>>> the sync'd field from Palm so this may not be suitable for your
>>>> situation.
>>>> YMMV.
>>>> 
>>>> The utility to do this is probably freeware by now, it's so old,
>>>> but works
>>>> great. Look for Undupe. I used to use it all the time on Palm
>>>> Desktop sync
>>>> issues. I no longer have a need, but would not part with it (just
>>>> in case).
>>>> It helped me out when Now Utilities was first on Palm 3 OS (if
>>>> this gives
>>>> you any idea of the age).



>>>> On 7/15/05 21:34, "Robert Williams" <bobwilliams@knology.net> wrote:
>>>>> My findings EXACTLY! -- AND AND  AND ... I finally got it to work
>>>>> and it
>>>>> duplicated *everything* - contacts, to dos, and appointments.
>>>>> 
>>>>> OK 6+ hours to fix this and I am waiting for Missing Sync to come
>>>>> out with


From ben.steeves at gmail.com  Mon Jul 18 07:40:25 2005
From: ben.steeves at gmail.com (Ben Steeves)
Date: Mon Jul 18 07:40:27 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] E2Sync?
In-Reply-To: <BF008B79.1A70%miketall@mac.com>
References: <BF0059C2.E4A4%bobwilliams@knology.net>
	<BF008B79.1A70%miketall@mac.com>
Message-ID: <7ebb24d105071807405bf607c1@mail.gmail.com>

On 7/17/05, Mac Mike <miketall@mac.com> wrote:
> I've been reading all the comments on e2Sync and have been thinking a lot
> about posting a comment.  I will try to relay my experience as factual as
> possible without the emotional hoop-la.  Anytime somebody posts something
> negative, it seems they are open-season for being slammed. 

I don't think you need to be worried about being slammed by anyone
here.  E2Sync definitely doesn't appear to be ready for prime-time.

As an update to my own experience, I did finally manage to get e2sync
un-installed by deleting it from the iSync application folder
manually, as directed in the documentation ( I couldn't perform the
first step -- removing the e2 icon from iSync, because e2 kept locking
iSync up solidly).

The fact that the documentation told me to go into the app folder to
remove e2sync should have been my first warning... any software that
requires that level of hackery just to un-install is obviously full of
bad juju.

-- 
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From berkowit at silcom.com  Wed Jul 20 11:54:49 2005
From: berkowit at silcom.com (Paul Berkowitz)
Date: Wed Jul 20 11:54:58 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Missing sync of photos
Message-ID: <BF03EC09.A8C32%berkowit@silcom.com>

According to my Treo 650 Manual, photos on the Treo are supposed to sync to
~/Pictures/palmOne Photos/[my username]/ on a Mac as JPEG files. I don't
know which conduit is meant to do this synching.

I do have such a folder on my G5, so I think it may have worked at one
point. But I have in there is an empty subfolder named "Internal", no JPEGs.
Meanwhile I have two photos on the Treo (the first ones I've taken after an
earlier set a while ago before I did a hard reset removing them).

Is there anything I can do to jump-start the synching of photos?
(Incidentally, what happens if I then move the photos from the palmOne
Photos folder on the computer? Is that interpreted as a deletion and deletes
them from the Treo on the next sync?) Am I missing a conduit, or enabling
one, or what do I do about it? At the moment I'm using only the Entourage,
Backup, Install and TimeCopy conduits,

I'm not ready to get either a Memory Stick or that SplashPhoto app referred
to by the MS Manual, unless I really need to. Shouldn't the photos just
download from the Treo?

-- 
Paul Berkowitz


From sgruby at markspace.com  Wed Jul 20 11:58:10 2005
From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby)
Date: Wed Jul 20 11:58:14 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Missing sync of photos
In-Reply-To: <BF03EC09.A8C32%berkowit@silcom.com>
References: <BF03EC09.A8C32%berkowit@silcom.com>
Message-ID: <36E10B42-811F-41CD-AFFC-B22011E0A805@markspace.com>


On Jul 20, 2005, at 11:54 AM, Paul Berkowitz wrote:

> According to my Treo 650 Manual, photos on the Treo are supposed to  
> sync to
> ~/Pictures/palmOne Photos/[my username]/ on a Mac as JPEG files. I  
> don't
> know which conduit is meant to do this synching.
>
> I do have such a folder on my G5, so I think it may have worked at one
> point. But I have in there is an empty subfolder named "Internal",  
> no JPEGs.
> Meanwhile I have two photos on the Treo (the first ones I've taken  
> after an
> earlier set a while ago before I did a hard reset removing them).
>
> Is there anything I can do to jump-start the synching of photos?
> (Incidentally, what happens if I then move the photos from the palmOne
> Photos folder on the computer? Is that interpreted as a deletion  
> and deletes
> them from the Treo on the next sync?) Am I missing a conduit, or  
> enabling
> one, or what do I do about it? At the moment I'm using only the  
> Entourage,
> Backup, Install and TimeCopy conduits,
>
> I'm not ready to get either a Memory Stick or that SplashPhoto app  
> referred
> to by the MS Manual, unless I really need to. Shouldn't the photos  
> just
> download from the Treo?
>

Hi Paul,

You didn't mention which version of Missing Sync for Palm OS you're  
using. There is a bug in 4.0.5 that was addressed in 4.0.6 b3 which  
should properly handle the Photos Conduit (called Media in the user  
interface) that comes with the Treo 650. If you didn't install the  
Palm Desktop that came with your Treo 650, you'll need to do that to  
get the proper conduit and then re-install Missing Sync. (Older  
versions of this conduit didn't handle the Treo 650.)

The conduit appears to backup pictures on the Treo 650 to the  
directory you mentioned.

--
Scott Gruby
Lead Engineer
Mark/Space, Inc.
<http://www.markspace.com/>

Please visit <http://www.markspace.com/support/> for assistance with  
Mark/Space products.

From berkowit at silcom.com  Wed Jul 20 12:19:14 2005
From: berkowit at silcom.com (Paul Berkowitz)
Date: Wed Jul 20 12:19:21 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Missing sync of photos
In-Reply-To: <36E10B42-811F-41CD-AFFC-B22011E0A805@markspace.com>
Message-ID: <BF03F1C2.A8C45%berkowit@silcom.com>

On 7/20/05 11:58 AM, "Scott Gruby" <sgruby@markspace.com> wrote:

> You didn't mention which version of Missing Sync for Palm OS you're
> using. There is a bug in 4.0.5 that was addressed in 4.0.6 b3 which
> should properly handle the Photos Conduit (called Media in the user
> interface) that comes with the Treo 650. If you didn't install the
> Palm Desktop that came with your Treo 650, you'll need to do that to
> get the proper conduit and then re-install Missing Sync. (Older
> versions of this conduit didn't handle the Treo 650.)

Hmmm, OK. Yes, I have MS 4.0.5. I think I went to a lot of trouble to
_remove_ Palm Desktop once (but I thought it was my earlier version). I
don't believe I ever consciously installed PD from the Treo CD, but maybe I
did once. I do think I had photos syncing earlier on (when I must have had
MS 4.0.4 or earlier).

OK, I currently have Palm Desktop claiming to be v4.0 from 4/18/02 3:32 PM.
I know from earlier installations that "special" versions often have no
discernable version number to set them apart, though. (For example, I was
able to use an old version of PD with my former Cli? and didn't need Missing
Sync, because there was once an old version that worked OK.)

So I guess I should install MS 4.0.6 b3, then sync, and see if the photos
sync. If not, I should reinstall PD from my Treo CD. Then will I need to
reinstall Missing Sync again (as well as the Entourage Conduit)? What's the
best order to do this in?

Thanks for the quick reply, Scott.
> 
> The conduit appears to backup pictures on the Treo 650 to the
> directory you mentioned.

Sounds good.

-- 
Paul Berkowitz



From sgruby at markspace.com  Wed Jul 20 12:24:14 2005
From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby)
Date: Wed Jul 20 12:24:18 2005
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Missing sync of photos
In-Reply-To: <BF03F1C2.A8C45%berkowit@silcom.com>
References: <BF03F1C2.A8C45%berkowit@silcom.com>
Message-ID: <7212ECBD-55EF-444F-9B00-1DDBC9A08955@markspace.com>


On Jul 20, 2005, at 12:19 PM, Paul Berkowitz wrote:

> Hmmm, OK. Yes, I have MS 4.0.5. I think I went to a lot of trouble to
> _remove_ Palm Desktop once (but I thought it was my earlier  
> version). I
> don't believe I ever consciously installed PD from the Treo CD, but  
> maybe I
> did once. I do think I had photos syncing earlier on (when I must  
> have had
> MS 4.0.4 or earlier).
>
> OK, I currently have Palm Desktop claiming to be v4.0 from 4/18/02  
> 3:32 PM.
> I know from earlier installations that "special" versions often  
> have no
> discernable version number