From plessard at mac.com Tue Feb 1 07:12:44 2005 From: plessard at mac.com (Pascal Lessard) Date: Tue Feb 1 04:13:04 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Can't install pdf files In-Reply-To: References: <603D8E92-72CD-11D9-A247-000D933E5850@ntlworld.com> <1a417907a6c7ba54ab0d3ef138317113@markspace.com> Message-ID: <85592be11cd1fb35bf5f0a52fda0a42c@mac.com> Le 31 janv. 2005, ? 21:07, Lorne Walton a ?crit : >> I recommend uninstalling and re-installing their conduit. Their lead >> engineer on the conduit informed us on 29 December 2004 that their >> conduit worked with Missing Sync. If you have further trouble with >> the conduit, I'd suggest contacting ePocrates's support folks. > > Uninstall = drag out of the Conduits folder? OK, did that, re-ran > ePocratesMac (newly downloaded), and reset TMS to "all conduits". The > synch ran for 4-5 minutes, before there appeared a dialog: > > Fatal Alert > > AlarmMgr.c, Line:244, > Invalid dbH > > with a single button, "Reset" > > BUT! I now have ePocrates 7.0. > > BUT! Every time I re-sync ePocrates, that same error dialog appears > right after the ePocrates AutoUpdate window appears. I had this also when I upgraded to Epocrates 7. I solved the problem by erasing all traces of the previous version of Epocrates on the handheld before reinstalling it all over again. 1- Before you do so, make sure you save a copy of your notes so that you won't loose them (if you wrote notes of course). Find the following files in the Backup folder (they may not all exist) and save them to a new folder : Notes-nc-2.PDB, IDnotes-nc43.PDB. These files are where your notes are saved. http://epocrates1.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/epocrates1.cfg/php/enduser/ std_adp.php?p_faqid=484 2- Completely remove Epocrates from the handheld following the procedure outlined in FAQ 631 : http://epocrates1.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/epocrates1.cfg/php/enduser/ std_adp.php?p_faqid=631 I recommend using "FileZ" to double check because some files are left behind by the standard Delete command : I reclaimed more than 4 MB with it ! http://nosleepsoftware.sourceforge.net/download.php 3- Run the Epocrates 7 installer 4- Sync with MS, making sure the Epocrates conduits are enabled 5- Reinstall the notes files you previously put aside (Notes-nc-2.PDB, IDnotes-nc43.PDB). Yours, Pascal Lessard +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ "... there is nothing more difficult to take in hand, more perilous to conduct or more uncertain in its success than to take the lead in the introduction of a new order of things..." - Machiavelli +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ From aben2amu at gmail.com Tue Feb 1 11:50:16 2005 From: aben2amu at gmail.com (A J Benamu) Date: Tue Feb 1 06:50:31 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Can't install pdf files In-Reply-To: References: <603D8E92-72CD-11D9-A247-000D933E5850@ntlworld.com> <1a417907a6c7ba54ab0d3ef138317113@markspace.com> <48cef19b8b0cc8b628a21311953aab92@spymac.com> Message-ID: <81a735096b9ba3cd448d146787d50698@gmail.com> Lorne, Do you have Adobe Reader on your Palm? If you do, they need to communicate first by doing a hotsync (with Missing Sync) while Adobe Reader for Palm OS is open, so the app can get your hotsync ID. After that, you can add any pdf files using the Adobe Reader for Palm OS on your mac and it will convert the files to a palm readable format. Finally do a hotsync with TMS and the files will be transferred to the palm either to your internal memory or an SD card. I have done it several times and it works like a charm. AJ On Feb 1, 2005, at 2:01 AM, Lorne Walton wrote: >> You need to run it and leave it open until the hotsync is done, that >> way all the pdf files will be converted and transferred. > > Sorry, AJ. No joy. No pdfs show in either the DTG or the Adobe Reader > window. > -- > "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm > not sure about the the universe." [Albert Einstein] > Lorne Walton, Maple Ridge, BC, Canada > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > From brashier at cvm.msstate.edu Tue Feb 1 13:00:58 2005 From: brashier at cvm.msstate.edu (Michael Brashier) Date: Tue Feb 1 11:09:14 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] delete conduits Message-ID: How do I delete conduits for programs that I no longer use? I have set them to do nothing, but it would be nice if they just weren't there at all. Dragging them to the trash doesn't work. Selecting them and going to the Edit column shows that the delete command is grayed out and not available. Thanks. Michael Brashier, DVM, Dip. ACVIM Ph#: 662-325-1448 P.O. Box 6100 Fax: 662-325-4011 Mississippi State, MS 39762 email: brashier@cvm.msstate.edu From brian_hall at markspace.com Tue Feb 1 11:19:33 2005 From: brian_hall at markspace.com (Brian Hall) Date: Tue Feb 1 11:21:18 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] delete conduits In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >How do I delete conduits for programs that I no longer use? I have set >them to do nothing, but it would be nice if they just weren't there at >all. Dragging them to the trash doesn't work. Selecting them and going >to the Edit column shows that the delete command is grayed out and not >available. You can do a CMD-Delete keystroke to remove a selected conduit. Brian -- _____________________________________________________________________ Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 654 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 Los Gatos, CA 95030-4360 From albie1 at mac.com Tue Feb 1 20:43:20 2005 From: albie1 at mac.com (albie) Date: Tue Feb 1 11:43:43 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] delete conduits In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks! That worked. I had been living with the unsightly AvantGo conduit sticking out there like a sore thumb when I inadvertently installed that, thinking it was Documents To Go! Regards, Albie On Feb 1, 2005, at 8:19 PM, Brian Hall wrote: >> How do I delete conduits for programs that I no longer use? I have >> set >> them to do nothing, but it would be nice if they just weren't there at >> all. Dragging them to the trash doesn't work. Selecting them and >> going >> to the Edit column shows that the delete command is grayed out and not >> available. > > You can do a CMD-Delete keystroke to remove a selected conduit. > > Brian > > -- > _____________________________________________________________________ > Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 > 654 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 > Los Gatos, CA 95030-4360 > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk From sgruby at markspace.com Tue Feb 1 11:46:26 2005 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Tue Feb 1 11:46:52 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] delete conduits In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2b57f6784392445cf7fd47e9ef14fbb9@markspace.com> On Feb 1, 2005, at 11:00 AM, Michael Brashier wrote: > How do I delete conduits for programs that I no longer use? I have set > them to do nothing, but it would be nice if they just weren't there at > all. Dragging them to the trash doesn't work. Selecting them and > going > to the Edit column shows that the delete command is grayed out and not > available. > > While Brian has already answered the question, I'd like to say that both of your ideas for deleting the conduits are great! We didn't want to use the regular delete key as that could be too easy too hit, but the Delete menu item and drag to trash are ideas we hadn't considered and will see about adding in a future version. -- Scott Gruby Lead Engineer, Missing Sync for Palm OS Mark/Space, Inc. Please contact support@markspace.com for assistance with Mark/Space products. From Scott at proserver.com Tue Feb 1 12:01:18 2005 From: Scott at proserver.com (scott) Date: Tue Feb 1 12:01:20 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] categories not showing up Message-ID: <09127A40-748C-11D9-9BA4-000A95968AB8@proserver.com> I use NOW UP TO DATE on my Mac and the categories do not show up on the palm in the Calendar feature but do show up in the Contact info. When i go to sync I can select the categories on the Computer side bu do no see them on the palm side Scott From walton at telus.net Tue Feb 1 15:55:19 2005 From: walton at telus.net (Lorne Walton) Date: Tue Feb 1 16:11:09 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Can't install pdf files In-Reply-To: <81a735096b9ba3cd448d146787d50698@gmail.com> References: <603D8E92-72CD-11D9-A247-000D933E5850@ntlworld.com> <1a417907a6c7ba54ab0d3ef138317113@markspace.com> <48cef19b8b0cc8b628a21311953aab92@spymac.com> <81a735096b9ba3cd448d146787d50698@gmail.com> Message-ID: >Do you have Adobe Reader on your Palm? Yes. >If you do, they need to communicate first by doing a hotsync (with >Missing Sync) while Adobe Reader for Palm OS is open, so the app can >get your hotsync ID. Did that. But what did you mean by "they" which need to communicate? The Palm needs to communicate with the Adobe Reader for Palm? >After that, you can add any pdf files using the Adobe Reader for >Palm OS on your mac I don't understand how to _add files_ using Adobe Reader for Palm OS on my mac. I thought Adobe Reader for Palm OS was for _reading_ pdf files which are on my Palm. Not for adding them, which should have been - but so far isn't - the job of TMS. I don't even understand how to use Adobe Reader for Palm OS on my mac. I thought Adobe Reader for Palm OS was for use on my Palm. Not on my Mac. On the outside chance that you meant I needed to Hotsynch while Adobe Reader for Mac was open on my iMac, I tried that. >and it will convert the files to a palm readable format. Finally do >a hotsync with TMS and the files will be transferred to the palm >either to your internal memory or an SD card. No go. -- "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe." [Albert Einstein] Lorne Walton, Maple Ridge, BC, Canada From walton at telus.net Tue Feb 1 15:56:27 2005 From: walton at telus.net (Lorne Walton) Date: Tue Feb 1 16:11:10 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Can't install pdf files In-Reply-To: <76f8b5a0a1de661f5c0fe064cd5b590c@markspace.com> References: <76f8b5a0a1de661f5c0fe064cd5b590c@markspace.com> Message-ID: >You MUST run the desktop application(s) to convert the PDFs into a >format that is readable by the handheld. Must run WHAT desktop applications, Scott? Please! -- "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe." [Albert Einstein] Lorne Walton, Maple Ridge, BC, Canada From walton at telus.net Tue Feb 1 15:58:24 2005 From: walton at telus.net (Lorne Walton) Date: Tue Feb 1 16:11:13 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Can't install pdf files In-Reply-To: <6d995879ea9707b1a8b426ba616f1056@markspace.com> References: <603D8E92-72CD-11D9-A247-000D933E5850@ntlworld.com> <1a417907a6c7ba54ab0d3ef138317113@markspace.com> <6d995879ea9707b1a8b426ba616f1056@markspace.com> Message-ID: >You really need to contact ePocrates support for assistance. I found >the only reliable way to use ePocrates was to completely remove it >from my device (I had to manually delete several files on the >handheld), search for ePocrates on the desktop, delete all files >found, empty trash, then re-run the ePocrates installer. I have contacted ePocrates. They have been sort of helpful, just like you folks on the list. I did as you suggested regarding deleting all found traces of epocrates from my Mac and my Palm, and reinstalling. I still get that error alert every time I synchronize ePocrates. -- "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe." [Albert Einstein] Lorne Walton, Maple Ridge, BC, Canada From joaocarlos at mac.com Tue Feb 1 22:53:52 2005 From: joaocarlos at mac.com (Jo=?ISO-8859-1?B?4w==?=o Carlos de Pinho) Date: Tue Feb 1 16:54:01 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Can't install pdf files In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Em 2/1/05 21:56, "Lorne Walton" escreveu: > Must run WHAT desktop applications, Scott? > > Please! This application: From walton at telus.net Tue Feb 1 17:30:35 2005 From: walton at telus.net (Lorne Walton) Date: Tue Feb 1 17:30:36 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Can't install pdf files In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >lmOS.dmg> Thank you, Jo?o Carlos de Pinho! There really is a {[Adobe Reader for Palm OS] for Mac}!!! The fog is lifting somewhat. I have run the above program on my iMac, and I have dragged into the app's window those 3 pdf files that I want to install. I then ran a HotSync, and ...no pdfs on the Palm! I went back to TMS, and again I can't load the pdfs into its "Files to install on SD card" window. -- "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe." [Albert Einstein] Lorne Walton, Maple Ridge, BC, Canada From sgruby at markspace.com Tue Feb 1 17:43:46 2005 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Tue Feb 1 17:44:13 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Can't install pdf files In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Feb 1, 2005, at 5:30 PM, Lorne Walton wrote: >> > AdobeReader305-Pa >> lmOS.dmg> > > Thank you, Jo?o Carlos de Pinho! > > There really is a {[Adobe Reader for Palm OS] for Mac}!!! The fog is > lifting somewhat. > > I have run the above program on my iMac, and I have dragged into the > app's window those 3 pdf files that I want to install. I then ran a > HotSync, and ...no pdfs on the Palm! > > I went back to TMS, and again I can't load the pdfs into its "Files to > install on SD card" window. > You CANNOT drag PDFs into the "Files To Install on SD card" window. 1. Download file that was previously indicated 2. Copy Adobe Reader for Palm OS to your hard drive. 3. Drag AdobeReader.prc onto Missing Sync's Install Window (handheld). 4. Double click Adobe Reader for Palm OS 5. In Missing Sync, select Conduits 6. Make sure Install and Adobe Reader are checked 7. Drag PDFs into Adobe Reader for Palm OS and NOT Missing Sync 8. Let Adobe Reader for Palm OS do the conversion 9. Leave Adobe Reader for Palm OS open 10. Press the HotSync button on your handheld. The PDFs will now be transferred to your handheld. The user guide "View User Guide" available from Adobe Reader for Palm OS is an extremely helpful document. They have an entire section on "Transferring PDF files". Part of it says: "Transferring PDF files Before you can view PDF documents on your Palm OS device, you need to transfer them from your desktop computer to your handheld device. The Adobe Reader for Palm OS dialog box lets you select and transfer PDF files to your handheld device. Performing a HotSync operation downloads the files. The files remain in the transfer list until you activate HotSync from your handheld device. " -- Scott Gruby Lead Engineer, Missing Sync for Palm OS Mark/Space, Inc. Please contact support@markspace.com for assistance with Mark/Space products. From walton at telus.net Tue Feb 1 18:24:02 2005 From: walton at telus.net (Lorne Walton) Date: Tue Feb 1 19:56:54 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Can't install pdf files In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >You CANNOT drag PDFs into the "Files To Install on SD card" window. > >1. Download file that was previously indicated >2. Copy Adobe Reader for Palm OS to your hard drive. >3. Drag AdobeReader.prc onto Missing Sync's Install Window (handheld). >4. Double click Adobe Reader for Palm OS >5. In Missing Sync, select Conduits >6. Make sure Install and Adobe Reader are checked >7. Drag PDFs into Adobe Reader for Palm OS and NOT Missing Sync >8. Let Adobe Reader for Palm OS do the conversion >9. Leave Adobe Reader for Palm OS open >10. Press the HotSync button on your handheld. > >The PDFs will now be transferred to your handheld. Sorry Scott. I seem to be getting conflicting info, and even then misunderstanding it. But let me respond to your points above, all of which I just tried before reading this, your latest attempt to penetrate my thick cranium. I tried dragging the pdfs into TMS because I thought another user here said that's what I could do. I did so only because the procedure outlined above didn't appear to transfer anything. I just tried for the FOURTH time, and it worked! Hallelujah! Clearly I was doing something wrong before, because computers don't make mistakes. Just the loose nut that holds the keyboard. Now only the ePocrates AutoUpdate Fatal Alert hurdle to cross. Thanks, all! -- "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe." [Albert Einstein] Lorne Walton, Maple Ridge, BC, Canada From sasami20 at earthlink.net Thu Feb 3 00:52:43 2005 From: sasami20 at earthlink.net (Erika Narimatsu) Date: Thu Feb 3 00:52:50 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Sony Clie PEG-TJ27 and Clie Mail Message-ID: <3514b247e4e0a2fe71fb4364cf716aba@earthlink.net> I haven't found much information about how to send mail through Clie Mail with a Mac, i thought I'd send a message. Is it possible? I've looked on Sony's website and one of their pdf documents mention a mail conduit, but I don't seem to have that conduit installed. I have the Missing Sync for Sony Clie version 3.0.9 running on my Macintosh. My Clie doesn't have bluetooth or wireless (too poor to shell out the extra $100 for the PEG-TJ37 model) so I would have to connect through the USB cable. It kinda sounds like the newest version of Missing Sync would solve this problem, but I'm not exactly sure. Does anyone know? Thanks in advance -Erika From chrisridd at mac.com Thu Feb 3 09:09:03 2005 From: chrisridd at mac.com (Chris Ridd) Date: Thu Feb 3 01:09:14 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Sony Clie PEG-TJ27 and Clie Mail In-Reply-To: <3514b247e4e0a2fe71fb4364cf716aba@earthlink.net> Message-ID: On 3/2/05 8:52 am, Erika Narimatsu wrote: > I haven't found much information about how to send mail through Clie > Mail with a Mac, i thought I'd send a message. Is it possible? I've > looked on Sony's website and one of their pdf documents mention a mail > conduit, but I don't seem to have that conduit installed. I have the > Missing Sync for Sony Clie version 3.0.9 running on my Macintosh. My > Clie doesn't have bluetooth or wireless (too poor to shell out the > extra $100 for the PEG-TJ37 model) so I would have to connect through > the USB cable. > > It kinda sounds like the newest version of Missing Sync would solve > this problem, but I'm not exactly sure. Does anyone know? Thanks in > advance Missing Sync v4 lets you set up your Mac so that it shares your Internet connection with your Palm. In that mode (you have to switch MS on your Mac between Internet sharing mode and Hotsyncing mode), all you need is a Mail app on your Palm that talks directly to your mail systems. Palm's mail app does this, and others probably do too. You don't need any conduits on your Mac to use these kinds of Palm mail apps. Having said that, I don't find getting and sending mail from a Palm to be a truly rewarding experience. It works, but I get and send far too much mail for it to be practical. Cheers, Chris From walton at telus.net Thu Feb 3 09:09:09 2005 From: walton at telus.net (Lorne Walton) Date: Thu Feb 3 09:54:54 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] ePocrates re-install Message-ID: I wish to thank those contributors to the List who walked me through the difficult transition to The Missing Sync. I'm not really as stupid as you must all think by now, but I sure was tearing out my hair for a while. The pdf problem is finally sorted out. Sorry, as a Mac user I always feel that it shouldn't be necessary to read the docs. I always have "better things to do", so I waste everyone else's time, as well as my own! [Maybe I am pretty stupid.] As for ePocrates, they sent a list of files that needed to be deleted before reinstalling the app and all its associated files. The file names are not all obvious. If anyone wants a copy of that list, email me off-line and I'd be happy to share it. No more Fatal Alert! -- "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe." [Albert Einstein] Lorne Walton, Maple Ridge, BC, Canada From m.griffith at mary.acu.edu.au Fri Feb 4 09:15:28 2005 From: m.griffith at mary.acu.edu.au (Michael Griffith) Date: Thu Feb 3 14:15:42 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Missing-sync/ sync Entourage I-cal/ sync Entourage Address Book Message-ID: The new Palm OS 5.2 onwards don't support Syncing with Entourage. Would it be possible to use Missing Sync with sync Entourage I-cal and sync Entourage Address Book to resolve this issue completely. Would the Memo programme in Missing Sync allow the transfer of all memos to the desktop while using this configuration. Has anyone used this workaround? Or can you suggest another. Currently I have gone back to my old Tungsten T and am leaving a Tungsten T3 until someone writes an Entourage Conduit for the new palms Michael From thraxisp4 at mac.com Thu Feb 3 21:20:37 2005 From: thraxisp4 at mac.com (Glenn Henshaw) Date: Thu Feb 3 18:20:54 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Missing-sync/ sync Entourage I-cal/ sync Entourage Address Book In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 2/3/05 5:15 PM, "Michael Griffith" wrote: > The new Palm OS 5.2 onwards don't support Syncing with Entourage. Would it > be possible to use Missing Sync with sync Entourage I-cal and sync Entourage > Address Book to resolve this issue completely. Would the Memo programme in > Missing Sync allow the transfer of all memos to the desktop while using this > configuration. Has anyone used this workaround? Or can you suggest another. > Currently I have gone back to my old Tungsten T and am leaving a Tungsten T3 > until someone writes an Entourage Conduit for the new palms > The conduit that comes with Office 2004 works with the T3 (and newer Palms). There is a switch in the configuration to handle the changes in data formats for the new data structures. ... Glenn From arkady1 at mac.com Fri Feb 4 00:14:02 2005 From: arkady1 at mac.com (Arkady) Date: Thu Feb 3 21:14:07 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] QDA-700 Smartphone Message-ID: >From Thailand http://www.palminfocenter.com/view_story.asp?ID=7553 More Photos of it here http://www.mrpalm.com/pdaphone/view.php?id=476&category=9 Looks GREAT, and has Graffiti2 which Treo 650 does NOT have! I doubt if PalmOne will allow this one to come to US markets, right?... Has anyone try http://www.e2sync.com/index.html ? From hcaley at plasmabat.com Sun Feb 6 19:03:35 2005 From: hcaley at plasmabat.com (Hugh Caley) Date: Sun Feb 6 19:03:42 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] TransportLib error (how can I get rid of it?) Message-ID: <4206DA87.2080400@plasmabat.com> I'm getting these TransportLib errors and I can't seem to figure out where it is coming from. A leftoever from Palm Desktop, right? I'm not using PD, but I haven't uninstalled it either, and I recently had to do an archive and install. > The application "Transport Monitor" could not be launched because of a > shared library error: "6 Monitor><>" Hugh -- "Whatsoever hath no fins nor scales in the waters, that shall be an abomination unto you." - Leviticus 11:12 http://godhatesshrimp.com Hugh Caley From sgruby at markspace.com Sun Feb 6 19:42:58 2005 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Sun Feb 6 19:43:25 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] TransportLib error (how can I get rid of it?) In-Reply-To: <4206DA87.2080400@plasmabat.com> References: <4206DA87.2080400@plasmabat.com> Message-ID: On Feb 6, 2005, at 7:03 PM, Hugh Caley wrote: > I'm getting these TransportLib errors and I can't seem to figure out > where it is coming from. A leftoever from Palm Desktop, right? I'm > not using PD, but I haven't uninstalled it either, and I recently had > to do an archive and install. > >> The application "Transport Monitor" could not be launched because of >> a shared library error: "6> Monitor><>" > > Check your Startup Items for Transport Monitor and remove it; Missing Sync completely replaces it (and actually should have automatically disabled it). -- Scott Gruby Lead Engineer, Missing Sync for Palm OS Mark/Space, Inc. Please contact support@markspace.com for assistance with Mark/Space products. From hcaley at plasmabat.com Mon Feb 7 12:10:23 2005 From: hcaley at plasmabat.com (Hugh Caley) Date: Mon Feb 7 12:10:37 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: missing-sync-palmos-talk Digest, Vol 21, Issue 6 In-Reply-To: <200502072000.j17K0UwI005775@penguin.markspace.com> References: <200502072000.j17K0UwI005775@penguin.markspace.com> Message-ID: <4207CB2F.4000603@plasmabat.com> > > >Check your Startup Items for Transport Monitor and remove it; Missing >Sync completely replaces it (and actually should have automatically >disabled it). > >-- >Scott Gruby >Lead Engineer, Missing Sync for Palm OS >Mark/Space, Inc. > > > > It doesn't seem to be in my account startup items, nor in /Library/StartupItems. Any ideas where else it could be? Hugh -- Whatsoever hath no fins nor scales in the waters, that shall be an abomination unto you. - Leviticus 11:9-12 http://godhatesshrimp.com Hugh Caley hcaley@plasmabat.com From sgruby at markspace.com Mon Feb 7 12:19:41 2005 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Mon Feb 7 12:20:12 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: missing-sync-palmos-talk Digest, Vol 21, Issue 6 In-Reply-To: <4207CB2F.4000603@plasmabat.com> References: <200502072000.j17K0UwI005775@penguin.markspace.com> <4207CB2F.4000603@plasmabat.com> Message-ID: On Feb 7, 2005, at 12:10 PM, Hugh Caley wrote: >> >> >> Check your Startup Items for Transport Monitor and remove it; Missing >> Sync completely replaces it (and actually should have automatically >> disabled it). >> >> -- >> Scott Gruby >> Lead Engineer, Missing Sync for Palm OS >> Mark/Space, Inc. >> >> >> > > It doesn't seem to be in my account startup items, nor in > /Library/StartupItems. Any ideas where else it could be? > > Go to Finder, hit Command-F, type in Transport Monitor, do a search. Take all found occurrences and through them out. -- Scott Gruby Lead Engineer, Missing Sync for Palm OS Mark/Space, Inc. Please contact support@markspace.com for assistance with Mark/Space products. From MBonilla at franciscan.edu Mon Feb 7 17:15:56 2005 From: MBonilla at franciscan.edu (Max Bonilla) Date: Mon Feb 7 14:17:47 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Problem with iSync Message-ID: Hello, I'm new to Missing Sync and to the list. Unfortunately my experience is not great yet, because iSync will not synchronize. Perhaps, someone could help me. The error message that iSync gives is very long, starting with the following text: Monday, February 7, 2005 4:43 PM |iCal| Could not add record '{type = mutable, count = 10, capacity = 17, pairs = ( 3 : {contents = "NSSyncDescription"} = {contents = "[---93:15 s000.... ]"} Thank you. Max From pdengler at gmail.com Tue Feb 8 06:31:02 2005 From: pdengler at gmail.com (Pat Dengler) Date: Tue Feb 8 06:32:07 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Missing Sync keeps quitting with Treo 650 Message-ID: <61fb12b8a021d8958c6fa98875127bda@gmail.com> I'm perplexed. the missing sync keeps quitting when I run it with my new (yesterday) Treo 650. I'm also running iSync. It all seems configured properly. PalmOne included a CD that said must be installed even with previous PDA/Smartphone installation. Any help? Thanks, Pat From sgruby at markspace.com Tue Feb 8 06:45:03 2005 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Tue Feb 8 06:45:31 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Missing Sync keeps quitting with Treo 650 In-Reply-To: <61fb12b8a021d8958c6fa98875127bda@gmail.com> References: <61fb12b8a021d8958c6fa98875127bda@gmail.com> Message-ID: <60f9d4e274e3d2281fd6feb380572bf2@markspace.com> On Feb 8, 2005, at 6:31 AM, Pat Dengler wrote: > I'm perplexed. the missing sync keeps quitting when I run it with my > new (yesterday) Treo 650. I'm also running iSync. It all seems > configured properly. PalmOne included a CD that said must be installed > even with previous PDA/Smartphone installation. > Any help? > Thanks, > Pat > You might try turning off the media conduit; we have had a number of reports of this conduit crashing and we're working with palmOne to determine the problem. -- Scott Gruby Lead Engineer, Missing Sync for Palm OS Mark/Space, Inc. Please contact support@markspace.com for assistance with Mark/Space products. From m.griffith at mary.acu.edu.au Wed Feb 9 05:55:10 2005 From: m.griffith at mary.acu.edu.au (Michael Griffith) Date: Tue Feb 8 10:55:30 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Entourage and Tungsten T3 Message-ID: Microsoft has specifically said that while there is some limited synchronization possible between Entourage and the "newer" palms, Palm OS, after 5.2 changed its category names thus making a clean sync impossible. This is also my experience after carefully following Microsoft's suggestions. In the face of this I am trying to think my way into a work around. I have purchased Missing-sync, I have also -some time ago- purchased "Sync Entourage Address Book" and "Sync Entourage Ical". I also have "iSync" on board. Would the following process work: Using iSync: sync Entourage with Apple's "Ical" and "Address Book" - at the same time use Missing Sync's separate Memo programme to sync With Entourage's memos (this is the big question - how to get memo's from the palm onto the desktop) Then use "Sync Entourage Ical and Sync Entourage Address book to complete the cycle. Despite having a weary head after all this syncing would this produce a clean sync between Entourage and Palm OS 5.2? Thank you for your time... Michael From chrisridd at mac.com Tue Feb 8 19:39:06 2005 From: chrisridd at mac.com (Chris Ridd) Date: Tue Feb 8 11:39:15 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Entourage and Tungsten T3 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 8/2/05 6:55 pm, Michael Griffith wrote: > Microsoft has specifically said that while there is some limited > synchronization possible between Entourage and the "newer" palms, Palm OS, > after 5.2 changed its category names thus making a clean sync impossible. Is that the "data loss" problem mentioned on ? Cheers, Chris From Scott at proserver.com Tue Feb 8 11:56:26 2005 From: Scott at proserver.com (scott) Date: Tue Feb 8 11:56:29 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] re public Categories in Now Up to Date Message-ID: <841F7CE2-7A0B-11D9-B350-000A95968AB8@proserver.com> I do not seem to have an public categories in Now up to Date on my Treo 650 Scott ----------------------------- Scott@proserver.com _________________________________________________________ NOTICE: This e-mail message and all attachments transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the addressee and may contain legally privileged and confidential information. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying, or other use of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this message and please delete it from your computer. From berkowit at silcom.com Tue Feb 8 12:02:11 2005 From: berkowit at silcom.com (Paul Berkowitz) Date: Tue Feb 8 12:02:18 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Entourage and Tungsten T3 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 2/8/05 11:39 AM, "Chris Ridd" wrote: > On 8/2/05 6:55 pm, Michael Griffith wrote: > >> Microsoft has specifically said that while there is some limited >> synchronization possible between Entourage and the "newer" palms, Palm OS, >> after 5.2 changed its category names thus making a clean sync impossible. > > Is that the "data loss" problem mentioned on > ? Yes. Basically, Entourage just goes on synching the data which Palm OS 4 permitted - so no second postal address, no category for calendar events, etc. The "data loss" would come about if you make any modification on the Entourage side and then sync back - the second postal address would be lost from the Palm (and it would never have synced to Entourage in the first place). If you use Entourage as the only place you enter data, you won't lose anything from Entourage. Palm (neither PalmOne nor PalmSource) ever notified Microsoft Mac Business Unit in advance that they were changing their syncing formats in OS 5. MacBU never found out until after the new Palms with OS 5 were released, which was far too late in their cycle for Office 2004 to do anything about it except prepare that alert. It's a real shame, since Palm obviously did communicate with Microsoft Outlook, and Entourage uses the same fields as Outlook does, or enough of them. Pam evidently didn't even think of notifying MacBU. (I think that on the Windows/Outlook side, syncing with Palm may be outsourced to another company : there's big business in it.) I would really hope that now that Mark/Space Missing Sync has officially taken over Mac synching to Mac, and must have some sort of arrangement with Palm, that Palm will at least notify Mark/Space in future when they're planning a change to their OS, and that Mark/Space in turn would notify Microsoft and other desktop PIM application makers as well as Apple so that accommodation can be made in good time. It's in everyone's interests to do so, and Mark/Space is certainly nothing if not on the ball. I still worry about Palm though... -- Paul Berkowitz From sgruby at markspace.com Tue Feb 8 12:17:33 2005 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Tue Feb 8 12:17:58 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Entourage and Tungsten T3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Feb 8, 2005, at 12:02 PM, Paul Berkowitz wrote: > Palm (neither PalmOne nor PalmSource) ever notified Microsoft Mac > Business > Unit in advance that they were changing their syncing formats in OS 5. Just a slight correction to this; PalmSource has/had nothing to do with the extended information in palmOne's devices. palmOne listened to their customers and added the extended database to their newer devices including the Treo 650, T5, T3, etc. Other Palm OS 5 devices not manufactured by palmOne have the extended information, i.e. Tapwave Zodiac, Garmin iQue 3600. Also, the extended information is not in all of palmOne's OS 5 devices (i.e. Tungsten T, Zire 71). -- Scott Gruby Lead Engineer, Missing Sync for Palm OS Mark/Space, Inc. Please contact support@markspace.com for assistance with Mark/Space products. From berkowit at silcom.com Tue Feb 8 12:22:54 2005 From: berkowit at silcom.com (Paul Berkowitz) Date: Tue Feb 8 12:22:57 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Entourage and Tungsten T3 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 2/8/05 10:55 AM, "Michael Griffith" wrote: > Microsoft has specifically said that while there is some limited > synchronization possible between Entourage and the "newer" palms, Palm OS, > after 5.2 changed its category names thus making a clean sync impossible. > This is also my experience after carefully following Microsoft's > suggestions. > In the face of this I am trying to think my way into a work around. I have > purchased Missing-sync, I have also -some time ago- purchased "Sync > Entourage Address Book" and "Sync Entourage Ical". I also have "iSync" on > board. > Would the following process work: > Using iSync: sync Entourage with Apple's "Ical" and "Address Book" > - at the same time use Missing Sync's separate Memo programme to sync With > Entourage's memos (this is the big question - how to get memo's from the > palm onto the desktop) > Then use "Sync Entourage Ical and Sync Entourage Address book to complete > the cycle. The first part works this way: you use the two "Sync Entourage Address Book" and "Sync Entourage Ical" scripts (I'm the one who makes those) to sync Entourage's contacts, calendar events and tasks with Address Book and iCal. Then you could use iSync to sync the Apple apps to the Palm. Don't forget that there are limitations in iCal's AppleScript implementation such that todo notes are not scriptable, so if you make notes in Entourage tasks they won't make it over. That may matter less to you than the other features you will get - I don't know. Missing Sync's MemoPad is a separate application, nothing to do with Entourage. It's not scriptable, so there's no way I'd know to sync from it to Entourage. Maybe Mark/Space might make it scriptable some day, but I doubt it's worth their trouble. There's no way for them or anyone else, yet, to get into Entourage except via AppleScript - although there might be a way for someone to get at the data produced by the Entourage conduit. The only way you could get everything would be very messy: you'd have to constantly be uninstalling and re-installing the Entourage conduit and iSync conduit, synching contacts, events and maybe tasks via the scripts and iSync conduit, and notes only (maybe re-doing tasks one-way) via the Entourage conduit. I really wouldn't recommend this - too much trouble and likely to go wrong. > > Despite having a weary head after all this syncing would this produce a > clean sync between Entourage and Palm OS 5.2? I doubt it. Probably after Tiger and an Entourage update there will be more, better options. -- Paul Berkowitz From hacker at gnu-designs.com Tue Feb 8 15:23:25 2005 From: hacker at gnu-designs.com (David A. Desrosiers) Date: Tue Feb 8 12:24:14 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Entourage and Tungsten T3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > Palm (neither PalmOne nor PalmSource) ever notified Microsoft Mac > Business Unit in advance that they were changing their syncing > formats in OS 5. MacBU never found out until after the new Palms > with OS 5 were released, which was far too late in their cycle for > Office 2004 to do anything about it except prepare that alert. Unfortunately, these new data formats still remain 100% undocumented. We've been working hard at reverse-engineering them (yes, byte-by-byte), and have Contacts done. Memos and Tasks is easy, but the Calendar part is going to be a bit difficult. Of course, this would all have been easier, if they just documented the API that they used, and stopped switching across the old and the new with random OS5 Palm units. There's no unformity in which devices use which versions of these apps. Some new devices use the old apps, some devices use the new apps. Not fun, from a developer perspective. But I'm not a MarkSpace officer or representative, I'm just a developer who works on the same kinds of conduit issues every single day. > I would really hope that now that Mark/Space Missing Sync has > officially taken over Mac synching to Mac, and must have some sort > of arrangement with Palm, that Palm will at least notify Mark/Space > in future when they're planning a change to their OS, and that > Mark/Space in turn would notify Microsoft and other desktop PIM > application makers as well as Apple so that accommodation can be > made in good time. Unfortunately, Palmsource hasn't documented these new formats to anyone, including their "Platinum Partners". Presumably, if the rumor is to be believed, they aren't documenting them because they know they're going to change again (to full Schema format databases), and they don't want to have to go through documenting them twice. > It's in everyone's interests to do so, and Mark/Space is certainly > nothing if not on the ball. I still worry about Palm though... Its in everyone's interest, except Palmsource, of course. Your frustration is echoed by literally hundreds of thousands of users and developers who are restricted from taking full advantage of their devices, by these bad decisions on the part of Palmsource and partners not to document the APIs as they change. David A. Desrosiers desrod@gnu-designs.com http://gnu-designs.com From m.griffith at mary.acu.edu.au Wed Feb 9 09:05:08 2005 From: m.griffith at mary.acu.edu.au (Michael Griffith) Date: Tue Feb 8 14:05:22 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Entourage and Tungsten T3 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 9/2/05 6:39 AM, "Chris Ridd" wrote: Correct Chris-- but do you think there is an implication here from Microsoft that if you turn synchronization back on then the issue is resolved? Thanks for your comment. > On 8/2/05 6:55 pm, Michael Griffith wrote: > >> Microsoft has specifically said that while there is some limited >> synchronization possible between Entourage and the "newer" palms, Palm OS, >> after 5.2 changed its category names thus making a clean sync impossible. > > Is that the "data loss" problem mentioned on > ? > > Cheers, > > Chris > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk From m.griffith at mary.acu.edu.au Wed Feb 9 09:10:35 2005 From: m.griffith at mary.acu.edu.au (Michael Griffith) Date: Tue Feb 8 14:12:16 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Entourage and Tungsten T3 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 9/2/05 7:02 AM, "Paul Berkowitz" wrote: Thanks for your response Paul. Can I read between the lines that the line of Sync from Palm via Missing-Sync to iCal and Address Book and then via your two Entourage syncs would be the best solution. I am heartened to hear that you suggest that if Entourage is the only place to enter data you won't lose anything... But I had an experience this week where my Palm failed and then a sync via MissingSync led to a loss of most of my Entourage address book... So does your suggestion imply that one should default to mac/entourage overrides Palm.. ? Cheers Michael > On 2/8/05 11:39 AM, "Chris Ridd" wrote: > >> On 8/2/05 6:55 pm, Michael Griffith wrote: >> >>> Microsoft has specifically said that while there is some limited >>> synchronization possible between Entourage and the "newer" palms, Palm OS, >>> after 5.2 changed its category names thus making a clean sync impossible. >> >> Is that the "data loss" problem mentioned on >> ? > > Yes. Basically, Entourage just goes on synching the data which Palm OS 4 > permitted - so no second postal address, no category for calendar events, > etc. The "data loss" would come about if you make any modification on the > Entourage side and then sync back - the second postal address would be lost > from the Palm (and it would never have synced to Entourage in the first > place). If you use Entourage as the only place you enter data, you won't > lose anything from Entourage. > > Palm (neither PalmOne nor PalmSource) ever notified Microsoft Mac Business > Unit in advance that they were changing their syncing formats in OS 5. > MacBU never found out until after the new Palms with OS 5 were released, > which was far too late in their cycle for Office 2004 to do anything about > it except prepare that alert. It's a real shame, since Palm obviously did > communicate with Microsoft Outlook, and Entourage uses the same fields as > Outlook does, or enough of them. Pam evidently didn't even think of > notifying MacBU. (I think that on the Windows/Outlook side, syncing with > Palm may be outsourced to another company : there's big business in it.) > > I would really hope that now that Mark/Space Missing Sync has officially > taken over Mac synching to Mac, and must have some sort of arrangement with > Palm, that Palm will at least notify Mark/Space in future when they're > planning a change to their OS, and that Mark/Space in turn would notify > Microsoft and other desktop PIM application makers as well as Apple so that > accommodation can be made in good time. It's in everyone's interests to do > so, and Mark/Space is certainly nothing if not on the ball. I still worry > about Palm though... From m.griffith at mary.acu.edu.au Wed Feb 9 09:15:36 2005 From: m.griffith at mary.acu.edu.au (Michael Griffith) Date: Tue Feb 8 14:15:42 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Entourage and Tungsten T3 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 9/2/05 7:22 AM, "Paul Berkowitz" wrote: Thank you Paul- you have answered all my questions. A good clean and clear explanation... My head is less weary after seeing the links so clearly.... Maybe I will go on a hunt for a Tungsten T which did work so well with entourage... And then they added the damnable .2 Cheers Michael > On 2/8/05 10:55 AM, "Michael Griffith" wrote: > >> Microsoft has specifically said that while there is some limited >> synchronization possible between Entourage and the "newer" palms, Palm OS, >> after 5.2 changed its category names thus making a clean sync impossible. >> This is also my experience after carefully following Microsoft's >> suggestions. >> In the face of this I am trying to think my way into a work around. I have >> purchased Missing-sync, I have also -some time ago- purchased "Sync >> Entourage Address Book" and "Sync Entourage Ical". I also have "iSync" on >> board. >> Would the following process work: >> Using iSync: sync Entourage with Apple's "Ical" and "Address Book" >> - at the same time use Missing Sync's separate Memo programme to sync With >> Entourage's memos (this is the big question - how to get memo's from the >> palm onto the desktop) >> Then use "Sync Entourage Ical and Sync Entourage Address book to complete >> the cycle. > > The first part works this way: you use the two "Sync Entourage Address Book" > and "Sync Entourage Ical" scripts (I'm the one who makes those) to sync > Entourage's contacts, calendar events and tasks with Address Book and iCal. > Then you could use iSync to sync the Apple apps to the Palm. Don't forget > that there are limitations in iCal's AppleScript implementation such that > todo notes are not scriptable, so if you make notes in Entourage tasks they > won't make it over. That may matter less to you than the other features you > will get - I don't know. > > Missing Sync's MemoPad is a separate application, nothing to do with > Entourage. It's not scriptable, so there's no way I'd know to sync from it > to Entourage. Maybe Mark/Space might make it scriptable some day, but I > doubt it's worth their trouble. There's no way for them or anyone else, yet, > to get into Entourage except via AppleScript - although there might be a way > for someone to get at the data produced by the Entourage conduit. > > The only way you could get everything would be very messy: you'd have to > constantly be uninstalling and re-installing the Entourage conduit and iSync > conduit, synching contacts, events and maybe tasks via the scripts and iSync > conduit, and notes only (maybe re-doing tasks one-way) via the Entourage > conduit. I really wouldn't recommend this - too much trouble and likely to > go wrong. >> >> Despite having a weary head after all this syncing would this produce a >> clean sync between Entourage and Palm OS 5.2? > > I doubt it. Probably after Tiger and an Entourage update there will be more, > better options. > From berkowit at silcom.com Wed Feb 9 08:07:22 2005 From: berkowit at silcom.com (Paul Berkowitz) Date: Wed Feb 9 08:07:35 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Entourage and Tungsten T3 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 2/8/05 12:17 PM, "Scott Gruby" wrote: > On Feb 8, 2005, at 12:02 PM, Paul Berkowitz wrote: > >> Palm (neither PalmOne nor PalmSource) ever notified Microsoft Mac >> Business >> Unit in advance that they were changing their syncing formats in OS 5. > > Just a slight correction to this; PalmSource has/had nothing to do with > the extended information in palmOne's devices. palmOne listened to > their customers and added the extended database to their newer devices > including the Treo 650, T5, T3, etc. Other Palm OS 5 devices not > manufactured by palmOne have the extended information, i.e. Tapwave > Zodiac, Garmin iQue 3600. Also, the extended information is not in all > of palmOne's OS 5 devices (i.e. Tungsten T, Zire 71). That's interesting, Scott. Thank you. But I'm a bit puzzled. I thought palmOne does the hardware and palmSource does the software. I take your point that not all devices which run Palm OS 5 software implement the new "extended information" formats. But surely that "extended information" for Contacts, Calendar, Tasks, Notes (as opposed to AddressBook, DateBook, Todos, Memos) - software - was devised by palmSource? Wasn't it up to them to first alert their various partners that they were doing this? I do get your point that any hardware manufacturer, such as palmOne and the others, might then be expected to notify _their_ partners, if they were going to implement it on their devices. But it sounds as if maybe you're saying that palmOne and the others were able to "add the extended database" all on their own. Where did it come from? Which part have I misunderstood? -- Paul Berkowitz From sgruby at markspace.com Wed Feb 9 08:17:29 2005 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Wed Feb 9 08:17:56 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Entourage and Tungsten T3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Feb 9, 2005, at 8:07 AM, Paul Berkowitz wrote: > On 2/8/05 12:17 PM, "Scott Gruby" wrote: > >> On Feb 8, 2005, at 12:02 PM, Paul Berkowitz wrote: >> >>> Palm (neither PalmOne nor PalmSource) ever notified Microsoft Mac >>> Business >>> Unit in advance that they were changing their syncing formats in OS >>> 5. >> >> Just a slight correction to this; PalmSource has/had nothing to do >> with >> the extended information in palmOne's devices. palmOne listened to >> their customers and added the extended database to their newer devices >> including the Treo 650, T5, T3, etc. Other Palm OS 5 devices not >> manufactured by palmOne have the extended information, i.e. Tapwave >> Zodiac, Garmin iQue 3600. Also, the extended information is not in all >> of palmOne's OS 5 devices (i.e. Tungsten T, Zire 71). > > That's interesting, Scott. Thank you. But I'm a bit puzzled. I thought > palmOne does the hardware and palmSource does the software. PalmSource does the OS software. palmOne does the hardware and any additional software to support the device and their add-ons, such as the camera. > I take your > point that not all devices which run Palm OS 5 software implement the > new > "extended information" formats. But surely that "extended information" > for > Contacts, Calendar, Tasks, Notes (as opposed to AddressBook, DateBook, > Todos, Memos) - software - was devised by palmSource? As far as I know, the extended databases were devised by palmOne. Some software/additions developed by the licensees have to be sent back to PalmSource, but I don't think that these are part of them. > Wasn't it up to them > to first alert their various partners that they were doing this? PalmSource or palmOne? The changes were made by palmOne, so I would hope that palmOne let their partners know. > I do get > your point that any hardware manufacturer, such as palmOne and the > others, > might then be expected to notify _their_ partners, if they were going > to > implement it on their devices. But it sounds as if maybe you're saying > that > palmOne and the others were able to "add the extended database" all on > their > own. Where did it come from? Which part have I misunderstood? > Yes, palmOne and licenses can extend the built in applications. PalmSource has said to not rely on the internal structure of the databases as they could change at any time, such as this case and more so with Palm OS Cobalt (Palm OS 6). -- Scott Gruby Lead Engineer, Missing Sync for Palm OS Mark/Space, Inc. Please contact support@markspace.com for assistance with Mark/Space products. From m.griffith at mary.acu.edu.au Thu Feb 10 12:47:52 2005 From: m.griffith at mary.acu.edu.au (Michael Griffith) Date: Wed Feb 9 17:48:21 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Entourage and Tungsten T3 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 9/2/05 7:22 AM, "Paul Berkowitz" wrote: Hi Paul- I am the one who started this thread on problems with Syncing Entourage to recent Palm devices. I have just read about e2sync ( http://www.mac360.com/index.php/mac360/more/now_isync_ical_addressbook_and_e ntourage/). From what I understand this seems to be no different to the two conduits that you wrote (Sync Entourage Address Book and Sync Entourage Ical) only here they seem to be bundled into one package. Or am I wrong: is this the software package we have all been waiting for? Cheers Michael > On 2/8/05 10:55 AM, "Michael Griffith" wrote: > >> Microsoft has specifically said that while there is some limited >> synchronization possible between Entourage and the "newer" palms, Palm OS, >> after 5.2 changed its category names thus making a clean sync impossible. >> This is also my experience after carefully following Microsoft's >> suggestions. >> In the face of this I am trying to think my way into a work around. I have >> purchased Missing-sync, I have also -some time ago- purchased "Sync >> Entourage Address Book" and "Sync Entourage Ical". I also have "iSync" on >> board. >> Would the following process work: >> Using iSync: sync Entourage with Apple's "Ical" and "Address Book" >> - at the same time use Missing Sync's separate Memo programme to sync With >> Entourage's memos (this is the big question - how to get memo's from the >> palm onto the desktop) >> Then use "Sync Entourage Ical and Sync Entourage Address book to complete >> the cycle. > > The first part works this way: you use the two "Sync Entourage Address Book" > and "Sync Entourage Ical" scripts (I'm the one who makes those) to sync > Entourage's contacts, calendar events and tasks with Address Book and iCal. > Then you could use iSync to sync the Apple apps to the Palm. Don't forget > that there are limitations in iCal's AppleScript implementation such that > todo notes are not scriptable, so if you make notes in Entourage tasks they > won't make it over. That may matter less to you than the other features you > will get - I don't know. > > Missing Sync's MemoPad is a separate application, nothing to do with > Entourage. It's not scriptable, so there's no way I'd know to sync from it > to Entourage. Maybe Mark/Space might make it scriptable some day, but I > doubt it's worth their trouble. There's no way for them or anyone else, yet, > to get into Entourage except via AppleScript - although there might be a way > for someone to get at the data produced by the Entourage conduit. > > The only way you could get everything would be very messy: you'd have to > constantly be uninstalling and re-installing the Entourage conduit and iSync > conduit, synching contacts, events and maybe tasks via the scripts and iSync > conduit, and notes only (maybe re-doing tasks one-way) via the Entourage > conduit. I really wouldn't recommend this - too much trouble and likely to > go wrong. >> >> Despite having a weary head after all this syncing would this produce a >> clean sync between Entourage and Palm OS 5.2? > > I doubt it. Probably after Tiger and an Entourage update there will be more, > better options. > From m.griffith at mary.acu.edu.au Thu Feb 10 12:55:06 2005 From: m.griffith at mary.acu.edu.au (Michael Griffith) Date: Wed Feb 9 17:55:13 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] e2sync- any addition to Berkowitz Sync-Entourage/Address/Ical?? Message-ID: On 9/2/05 7:22 AM, "Paul Berkowitz" wrote: Hi Paul- I am the one who started this thread on problems with Syncing Entourage to recent Palm devices. I have just read about e2sync ( http://www.mac360.com/index.php/mac360/more/now_isync_ical_addressbook_and_e ntourage/). From what I understand this seems to be no different to the two conduits that you wrote (Sync Entourage Address Book and Sync Entourage Ical) only here they seem to be bundled into one package. Or am I wrong: is this the software package we have all been waiting for? Cheers Michael > On 2/8/05 10:55 AM, "Michael Griffith" wrote: > >> Microsoft has specifically said that while there is some limited >> synchronization possible between Entourage and the "newer" palms, Palm OS, >> after 5.2 changed its category names thus making a clean sync impossible. >> This is also my experience after carefully following Microsoft's >> suggestions. >> In the face of this I am trying to think my way into a work around. I have >> purchased Missing-sync, I have also -some time ago- purchased "Sync >> Entourage Address Book" and "Sync Entourage Ical". I also have "iSync" on >> board. >> Would the following process work: >> Using iSync: sync Entourage with Apple's "Ical" and "Address Book" >> - at the same time use Missing Sync's separate Memo programme to sync With >> Entourage's memos (this is the big question - how to get memo's from the >> palm onto the desktop) >> Then use "Sync Entourage Ical and Sync Entourage Address book to complete >> the cycle. > > The first part works this way: you use the two "Sync Entourage Address Book" > and "Sync Entourage Ical" scripts (I'm the one who makes those) to sync > Entourage's contacts, calendar events and tasks with Address Book and iCal. > Then you could use iSync to sync the Apple apps to the Palm. Don't forget > that there are limitations in iCal's AppleScript implementation such that > todo notes are not scriptable, so if you make notes in Entourage tasks they > won't make it over. That may matter less to you than the other features you > will get - I don't know. > > Missing Sync's MemoPad is a separate application, nothing to do with > Entourage. It's not scriptable, so there's no way I'd know to sync from it > to Entourage. Maybe Mark/Space might make it scriptable some day, but I > doubt it's worth their trouble. There's no way for them or anyone else, yet, > to get into Entourage except via AppleScript - although there might be a way > for someone to get at the data produced by the Entourage conduit. > > The only way you could get everything would be very messy: you'd have to > constantly be uninstalling and re-installing the Entourage conduit and iSync > conduit, synching contacts, events and maybe tasks via the scripts and iSync > conduit, and notes only (maybe re-doing tasks one-way) via the Entourage > conduit. I really wouldn't recommend this - too much trouble and likely to > go wrong. >> >> Despite having a weary head after all this syncing would this produce a >> clean sync between Entourage and Palm OS 5.2? > > I doubt it. Probably after Tiger and an Entourage update there will be more, > better options. > From harryo43 at yahoo.com Thu Feb 10 04:27:20 2005 From: harryo43 at yahoo.com (Harry Flaxman) Date: Thu Feb 10 04:27:28 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] e2sync- any addition to Berkowitz Sync-Entourage/Address/Ical?? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050210122720.52384.qmail@web53806.mail.yahoo.com> Where can I find this rewritten new conduit? I looked at the website that the details are written in, but no software? Harry\ --- Michael Griffith wrote: > On 9/2/05 7:22 AM, "Paul Berkowitz" > wrote: > Hi Paul- I am the one who started this thread on > problems with Syncing > Entourage to recent Palm devices. I have just read > about e2sync ( > http://www.mac360.com/index.php/mac360/more/now_isync_ical_addressbook_and_e > ntourage/). From what I understand this seems to be > no different to the two > conduits that you wrote (Sync Entourage Address Book > and Sync Entourage > Ical) only here they seem to be bundled into one > package. Or am I wrong: is > this the software package we have all been waiting > for? Cheers > Michael > > > On 2/8/05 10:55 AM, "Michael Griffith" > wrote: > > > >> Microsoft has specifically said that while there > is some limited > >> synchronization possible between Entourage and > the "newer" palms, Palm OS, > >> after 5.2 changed its category names thus making > a clean sync impossible. > >> This is also my experience after carefully > following Microsoft's > >> suggestions. > >> In the face of this I am trying to think my way > into a work around. I have > >> purchased Missing-sync, I have also -some time > ago- purchased "Sync > >> Entourage Address Book" and "Sync Entourage > Ical". I also have "iSync" on > >> board. > >> Would the following process work: > >> Using iSync: sync Entourage with Apple's "Ical" > and "Address Book" > >> - at the same time use Missing Sync's separate > Memo programme to sync With > >> Entourage's memos (this is the big question - how > to get memo's from the > >> palm onto the desktop) > >> Then use "Sync Entourage Ical and Sync Entourage > Address book to complete > >> the cycle. > > > > The first part works this way: you use the two > "Sync Entourage Address Book" > > and "Sync Entourage Ical" scripts (I'm the one who > makes those) to sync > > Entourage's contacts, calendar events and tasks > with Address Book and iCal. > > Then you could use iSync to sync the Apple apps to > the Palm. Don't forget > > that there are limitations in iCal's AppleScript > implementation such that > > todo notes are not scriptable, so if you make > notes in Entourage tasks they > > won't make it over. That may matter less to you > than the other features you > > will get - I don't know. > > > > Missing Sync's MemoPad is a separate application, > nothing to do with > > Entourage. It's not scriptable, so there's no way > I'd know to sync from it > > to Entourage. Maybe Mark/Space might make it > scriptable some day, but I > > doubt it's worth their trouble. There's no way for > them or anyone else, yet, > > to get into Entourage except via AppleScript - > although there might be a way > > for someone to get at the data produced by the > Entourage conduit. > > > > The only way you could get everything would be > very messy: you'd have to > > constantly be uninstalling and re-installing the > Entourage conduit and iSync > > conduit, synching contacts, events and maybe tasks > via the scripts and iSync > > conduit, and notes only (maybe re-doing tasks > one-way) via the Entourage > > conduit. I really wouldn't recommend this - too > much trouble and likely to > > go wrong. > >> > >> Despite having a weary head after all this > syncing would this produce a > >> clean sync between Entourage and Palm OS 5.2? > > > > I doubt it. Probably after Tiger and an Entourage > update there will be more, > > better options. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and > list archives can be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > ===== ____________________ Harry Flaxman Dual G5's Rule! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From m.griffith at mary.acu.edu.au Fri Feb 11 00:28:17 2005 From: m.griffith at mary.acu.edu.au (Michael Griffith) Date: Thu Feb 10 05:28:35 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] e2sync- any addition to Berkowitz Sync-Entourage/Address/Ical?? In-Reply-To: <20050210122720.52384.qmail@web53806.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 10/2/05 11:27 PM, "Harry Flaxman" wrote: Here is the address: http://www.e2sync.com/ > Where can I find this rewritten new conduit? I looked > at the website that the details are written in, but no > software? > > Harry\ > > --- Michael Griffith > wrote: > >> On 9/2/05 7:22 AM, "Paul Berkowitz" >> wrote: >> Hi Paul- I am the one who started this thread on >> problems with Syncing >> Entourage to recent Palm devices. I have just read >> about e2sync ( >> > http://www.mac360.com/index.php/mac360/more/now_isync_ical_addressbook_and_e >> ntourage/). From what I understand this seems to be >> no different to the two >> conduits that you wrote (Sync Entourage Address Book >> and Sync Entourage >> Ical) only here they seem to be bundled into one >> package. Or am I wrong: is >> this the software package we have all been waiting >> for? Cheers >> Michael >> >>> On 2/8/05 10:55 AM, "Michael Griffith" >> wrote: >>> >>>> Microsoft has specifically said that while there >> is some limited >>>> synchronization possible between Entourage and >> the "newer" palms, Palm OS, >>>> after 5.2 changed its category names thus making >> a clean sync impossible. >>>> This is also my experience after carefully >> following Microsoft's >>>> suggestions. >>>> In the face of this I am trying to think my way >> into a work around. I have >>>> purchased Missing-sync, I have also -some time >> ago- purchased "Sync >>>> Entourage Address Book" and "Sync Entourage >> Ical". I also have "iSync" on >>>> board. >>>> Would the following process work: >>>> Using iSync: sync Entourage with Apple's "Ical" >> and "Address Book" >>>> - at the same time use Missing Sync's separate >> Memo programme to sync With >>>> Entourage's memos (this is the big question - how >> to get memo's from the >>>> palm onto the desktop) >>>> Then use "Sync Entourage Ical and Sync Entourage >> Address book to complete >>>> the cycle. >>> >>> The first part works this way: you use the two >> "Sync Entourage Address Book" >>> and "Sync Entourage Ical" scripts (I'm the one who >> makes those) to sync >>> Entourage's contacts, calendar events and tasks >> with Address Book and iCal. >>> Then you could use iSync to sync the Apple apps to >> the Palm. Don't forget >>> that there are limitations in iCal's AppleScript >> implementation such that >>> todo notes are not scriptable, so if you make >> notes in Entourage tasks they >>> won't make it over. That may matter less to you >> than the other features you >>> will get - I don't know. >>> >>> Missing Sync's MemoPad is a separate application, >> nothing to do with >>> Entourage. It's not scriptable, so there's no way >> I'd know to sync from it >>> to Entourage. Maybe Mark/Space might make it >> scriptable some day, but I >>> doubt it's worth their trouble. There's no way for >> them or anyone else, yet, >>> to get into Entourage except via AppleScript - >> although there might be a way >>> for someone to get at the data produced by the >> Entourage conduit. >>> >>> The only way you could get everything would be >> very messy: you'd have to >>> constantly be uninstalling and re-installing the >> Entourage conduit and iSync >>> conduit, synching contacts, events and maybe tasks >> via the scripts and iSync >>> conduit, and notes only (maybe re-doing tasks >> one-way) via the Entourage >>> conduit. I really wouldn't recommend this - too >> much trouble and likely to >>> go wrong. >>>> >>>> Despite having a weary head after all this >> syncing would this produce a >>>> clean sync between Entourage and Palm OS 5.2? >>> >>> I doubt it. Probably after Tiger and an Entourage >> update there will be more, >>> better options. >>> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and >> list archives can be found at: >> > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk >> > > > ===== > ____________________ > Harry Flaxman > Dual G5's Rule! > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk From harryo43 at yahoo.com Fri Feb 11 08:05:19 2005 From: harryo43 at yahoo.com (Harry Flaxman) Date: Fri Feb 11 08:05:29 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] e2sync- any addition to Berkowitz Sync-Entourage/Address/Ical?? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050211160519.25544.qmail@web53804.mail.yahoo.com> Thanks muchly! --- Michael Griffith wrote: > On 10/2/05 11:27 PM, "Harry Flaxman" > wrote: > Here is the address: http://www.e2sync.com/ > > > > Where can I find this rewritten new conduit? I > looked > > at the website that the details are written in, > but no > > software? > > > > Harry\ > > > > --- Michael Griffith > > wrote: > > > >> On 9/2/05 7:22 AM, "Paul Berkowitz" > >> wrote: > >> Hi Paul- I am the one who started this thread on > >> problems with Syncing > >> Entourage to recent Palm devices. I have just > read > >> about e2sync ( > >> > > > http://www.mac360.com/index.php/mac360/more/now_isync_ical_addressbook_and_e > >> ntourage/). From what I understand this seems to > be > >> no different to the two > >> conduits that you wrote (Sync Entourage Address > Book > >> and Sync Entourage > >> Ical) only here they seem to be bundled into one > >> package. Or am I wrong: is > >> this the software package we have all been > waiting > >> for? Cheers > >> Michael > >> > >>> On 2/8/05 10:55 AM, "Michael Griffith" > >> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Microsoft has specifically said that while > there > >> is some limited > >>>> synchronization possible between Entourage and > >> the "newer" palms, Palm OS, > >>>> after 5.2 changed its category names thus > making > >> a clean sync impossible. > >>>> This is also my experience after carefully > >> following Microsoft's > >>>> suggestions. > >>>> In the face of this I am trying to think my way > >> into a work around. I have > >>>> purchased Missing-sync, I have also -some time > >> ago- purchased "Sync > >>>> Entourage Address Book" and "Sync Entourage > >> Ical". I also have "iSync" on > >>>> board. > >>>> Would the following process work: > >>>> Using iSync: sync Entourage with Apple's "Ical" > >> and "Address Book" > >>>> - at the same time use Missing Sync's separate > >> Memo programme to sync With > >>>> Entourage's memos (this is the big question - > how > >> to get memo's from the > >>>> palm onto the desktop) > >>>> Then use "Sync Entourage Ical and Sync > Entourage > >> Address book to complete > >>>> the cycle. > >>> > >>> The first part works this way: you use the two > >> "Sync Entourage Address Book" > >>> and "Sync Entourage Ical" scripts (I'm the one > who > >> makes those) to sync > >>> Entourage's contacts, calendar events and tasks > >> with Address Book and iCal. > >>> Then you could use iSync to sync the Apple apps > to > >> the Palm. Don't forget > >>> that there are limitations in iCal's AppleScript > >> implementation such that > >>> todo notes are not scriptable, so if you make > >> notes in Entourage tasks they > >>> won't make it over. That may matter less to you > >> than the other features you > >>> will get - I don't know. > >>> > >>> Missing Sync's MemoPad is a separate > application, > >> nothing to do with > >>> Entourage. It's not scriptable, so there's no > way > >> I'd know to sync from it > >>> to Entourage. Maybe Mark/Space might make it > >> scriptable some day, but I > >>> doubt it's worth their trouble. There's no way > for > >> them or anyone else, yet, > >>> to get into Entourage except via AppleScript - > >> although there might be a way > >>> for someone to get at the data produced by the > >> Entourage conduit. > >>> > >>> The only way you could get everything would be > >> very messy: you'd have to > >>> constantly be uninstalling and re-installing the > >> Entourage conduit and iSync > >>> conduit, synching contacts, events and maybe > tasks > >> via the scripts and iSync > >>> conduit, and notes only (maybe re-doing tasks > >> one-way) via the Entourage > >>> conduit. I really wouldn't recommend this - too > >> much trouble and likely to > >>> go wrong. > >>>> > >>>> Despite having a weary head after all this > >> syncing would this produce a > >>>> clean sync between Entourage and Palm OS 5.2? > >>> > >>> I doubt it. Probably after Tiger and an > Entourage > >> update there will be more, > >>> better options. > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > >> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > >> Unsubcribing information, subscription options > and > >> list archives can be found at: > >> > > > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > >> > > > > > > ===== > > ____________________ > > Harry Flaxman > > Dual G5's Rule! > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and > list archives can be found > > at: > > > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and > list archives can be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > ===== ____________________ Harry Flaxman Dual G5's Rule! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - What will yours do? http://my.yahoo.com From eullman at markspace.com Fri Feb 11 09:17:16 2005 From: eullman at markspace.com (Eric Ullman) Date: Fri Feb 11 09:17:35 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Missing Sync 4.0.3 Now Available Message-ID: Greetings, Mark/Space is pleased to announce the immediate availability of version 4.0.3 of The Missing Sync for Palm OS. This release boosts synchronization speed, improves iPhoto integration with better photo scaling capability and image quality on the handheld, introduces the Mark/Space Conduit for AvantGo, a native Mac OS X conduit that downloads AvantGo content during synchronization, adds support for the Fossil Wrist PDA, improves MemoPad application functionality with a new sort feature and much more. Mark/Space recommends that all users of version 4.0 download and install this free update. The installer and complete release notes are available from . Thank you for choosing The Missing Sync. Best regards, Eric -- Eric Ullman Director of Sales and Marketing Mark/Space, Inc. eullman@markspace.com From phillip at madgestevens.net Fri Feb 11 19:41:08 2005 From: phillip at madgestevens.net (Phillip Deackes) Date: Mon Feb 14 06:52:31 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Missing Sync 4.0.3 Problem :-( In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I upgraded my Tungsten T5 to Missing Sync 4.0.3 and the first couple of times I did a hotsync I got the following message on the Palm screen at the end: Emul68KMain.c,Line:403,illegal instruction 0008 at address 009EE966 I then had to reset the Palm. Hotsync appeared to teminate correctly Was this anything to do with Missing Sync, or just a coincidence? The third time Hotsync finished normally. -- Phillip Deackes From joaocarlos at mac.com Fri Feb 11 19:11:34 2005 From: joaocarlos at mac.com (Jo=?ISO-8859-1?B?4w==?=o Carlos de Pinho) Date: Mon Feb 14 06:52:32 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Missing Sync 4.0.3 Now Available In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In 2/11/05 15:17, "Eric Ullman" wrote: > Mark/Space is pleased to announce the immediate availability of version > 4.0.3 of The Missing Sync for Palm OS. Impressive list of changes. Unfortunately this list doesn't contain any reference to speed improvements in the Missing Sync.prc component. Since there were no reference, I had to make some benchmarks. The results? An 8.6 MB file transferred to a Tungsten external card took: 1'20" (80 seconds) via Missing Sync.prc 0'20" (20 seconds) via Card Export 2 Is there any plans to improve this weak performance? Regards, Jo?o Carlos de Pinho From pdengler at mac.com Fri Feb 11 13:37:37 2005 From: pdengler at mac.com (Pat Dengler) Date: Mon Feb 14 06:52:33 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Problems syncing with Treo 650 Message-ID: I'm having difficulties syncing my 650 with Missing Sync - on a mac, using iSync and the updated Missing Sync from yesterday. The biggest annoyance is that my voicemail number, one programed into the phone to retrieve voicemail, keeps getting changed to a long string that starts with a zero. I end up calling the operator. What's worse is I can't manually change it. From henryseiden at bellsouth.net Fri Feb 11 23:45:59 2005 From: henryseiden at bellsouth.net (Henry M. Seiden) Date: Mon Feb 14 06:52:41 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] =?iso-8859-1?q?Entourage_and_Cli=E9_NX80V/U?= Message-ID: <7c54cffa38335f974f72d81e3d45be43@bellsouth.net> I am trying anything possible to use Entourage with this Cli? in the hope that MAC/Cli? and a common addressbook, contact manager, notepad will sync properly. So far Entourage won't complete a sync at all using Missing Sync. Any part of Entourage or database that is set to sync overwriting the desktop fails to complete. Any suggestions? I tried upgrading Entourage to 10.1.6 (latest release for Panther), installing the Entourage Conduit in Missing Sync and syncing a database. It crashed Missing Sync (got bug report page). The progress bar shows only it syncing or not syncing one app. You can't sync from handheld to desktop, is what I seem to be finding. Has anybody found this? Is there some specific requirement that a program be open or not open to hot sync? Sometimes Missing Sync crashes on Datebook, sometimes on Addressbook (according to Palm handheld side anyway). Next I'll be trying PalmOne's Hot sync. Any ideas? Henry -- My wife has a slight impediment in her speech - every now and then she stops to breathe. (Jimmy Durante) From henryseiden at bellsouth.net Sat Feb 12 01:07:49 2005 From: henryseiden at bellsouth.net (Henry M. Seiden) Date: Mon Feb 14 06:52:42 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] =?iso-8859-1?q?Entourage_and_Cli=E9_NX80V/U?= Message-ID: <3b7767a68cec66421cf47155d3883b85@bellsouth.net> I am trying anything possible to use Entourage with this Cli? in the hope that MAC/Cli? and a common addressbook, contact manager, notepad will sync properly. I had poor results with iSync and Addressbook/iCal. Names calendar entries got dumped and did not transfer, operation was too slow, integration on the MAC side between the various apps was flaky at best. I found that doing one database at a time, the Missing Sync would crash at the Calendar/Datebook database. If I skip that the rest would come over OK. The Datebook will not sync at all. I tried several different methods- Handheld overwrites MAC, synchronize (first time sync), sync only one category (any one). Henry -- My wife has a slight impediment in her speech - every now and then she stops to breathe. (Jimmy Durante) From henryseiden at bellsouth.net Sat Feb 12 02:02:58 2005 From: henryseiden at bellsouth.net (Henry M. Seiden) Date: Mon Feb 14 06:52:42 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] =?iso-8859-1?q?Entourage_and_Cli=E9_NX80V/U?= Message-ID: <388a386a7b0f0160651ad6f557ba63a6@bellsouth.net> I am trying anything possible to use Entourage with this Cli? in the hope that MAC/Cli? and a common addressbook, contact manager, notepad will sync properly. I had poor results with iSync and Addressbook/iCal. Names+calendar entries got dumped and did not transfer, operation was too slow, integration on the MAC side between the various apps was flaky at best- nonexistant between Addressbook and iCal. Doing one database at a time, the Missing Sync would crash at the Calendar/Datebook database sync. If I skip that, the rest of the data- Contacts, Notes, Tasks (aka, their Palm equivalents Addressbook, Memos, ToDo)- would come over OK from the handheld. Datebook will not sync at all. I tried several different methods- Handheld overwrites MAC, synchronize (first time sync), sync only one category (any one). So far, at least the data no longer gets mangled. Don't know about sync with two MACs and the Palm. Right now I'm just syncing with one laptop to test. Henry -- My wife has a slight impediment in her speech - every now and then she stops to breathe. (Jimmy Durante) From fred at delicatefunk.com Sat Feb 12 21:01:29 2005 From: fred at delicatefunk.com (Fred) Date: Mon Feb 14 06:52:48 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] MS version 4.0.3 and Avantgo conduit. Message-ID: <3230dcf48d1c75a1ffcee022d48db175@delicatefunk.com> Hello, I've used to use the MAL conduit with whom it has worked perfectly for me on my T3. Now i have installed the last version of MS (version 4.0.3) and of course during the installation, the MAL conduit was moved to the folder "disabled conduits". But as it is written in the "read me" file, i thought that the installer of MS would replace the MAL conduit with Mark Space Avant-go conduit. But nothing....i cannot find this new avantgo conduit neither via the interface of missing sync, neither in the folder "conduits" or "disabled" conduit. I have tried to run the installer again.....nothing...no trace of this avant-go conduit. How can i manage to get it and use it instead of the MAL conduit, please ? Best regards, Fred Morel From fred at delicatefunk.com Mon Feb 14 16:10:03 2005 From: fred at delicatefunk.com (Fred) Date: Mon Feb 14 07:10:17 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Missing Sync 4.0.3 Problem :-( Message-ID: <83c557ee5f562c3b45dd49b499ebb1cc@delicatefunk.com> Hello, I also got a problem with MS 4.0.3 I've used to use the MAL conduit with whom it has worked perfectly for me on my T3. Now i have installed the last version of MS (version 4.0.3) and of course during the installation, the MAL conduit was moved to the folder "disabled conduits". But as it is written in the "read me" file, i thought that the installer of MS would replace the MAL conduit with Mark Space Avant-go conduit. But nothing....i cannot find this new avantgo conduit neither via the interface of missing sync, neither in the folder "conduits" or "disabled" conduit. I have tried to run the installer again.....nothing...no trace of this avant-go conduit. How can i manage to get it and use it instead of the MAL conduit, please ? Best regards, Fred Morel From BDarkatsh at aol.com Mon Feb 14 10:34:22 2005 From: BDarkatsh at aol.com (BDarkatsh@aol.com) Date: Mon Feb 14 07:34:37 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Problems synching Message-ID: <1eb.34b470fd.2f421efe@aol.com> I just upgraded to 4.0.3 from the previous upgrade. I tried to synch right after I completed the upgrade (and the system restart) and got the standard error message "Connection ....lost..." after each attempt. Settings have not been changed (at least by me) and same programs are installed and active as before the upgrade. I have an iBook with Mac OS 10.3.8 Palm Desktop v4.2.1, and Tungsten T3 with Palm OS 5.2.1.3.0. I have it set to synch locally via cradle/cable, and use the button on the cradle to synch. Memory is not an issue with either iBook or with Tungsten. I had no problems with previous upgrade. Now what? : ( From BDarkatsh at aol.com Mon Feb 14 10:34:22 2005 From: BDarkatsh at aol.com (BDarkatsh@aol.com) Date: Mon Feb 14 07:34:39 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Problems synching Message-ID: <1eb.34b470fd.2f421efe@aol.com> I just upgraded to 4.0.3 from the previous upgrade. I tried to synch right after I completed the upgrade (and the system restart) and got the standard error message "Connection ....lost..." after each attempt. Settings have not been changed (at least by me) and same programs are installed and active as before the upgrade. I have an iBook with Mac OS 10.3.8 Palm Desktop v4.2.1, and Tungsten T3 with Palm OS 5.2.1.3.0. I have it set to synch locally via cradle/cable, and use the button on the cradle to synch. Memory is not an issue with either iBook or with Tungsten. I had no problems with previous upgrade. Now what? : ( From sgruby at markspace.com Mon Feb 14 07:37:59 2005 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Mon Feb 14 07:38:26 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] MS version 4.0.3 and Avantgo conduit. In-Reply-To: <3230dcf48d1c75a1ffcee022d48db175@delicatefunk.com> References: <3230dcf48d1c75a1ffcee022d48db175@delicatefunk.com> Message-ID: <5bd88aca78e7a59e4ced3f063d5891e5@markspace.com> On Feb 12, 2005, at 12:01 PM, Fred wrote: > Hello, > > I've used to use the MAL conduit with whom it has worked perfectly for > me on my T3. > Now i have installed the last version of MS (version 4.0.3) and of > course during the installation, the MAL conduit was moved to the > folder "disabled conduits". But as it is written in the "read me" > file, i thought that the installer of MS would replace the MAL conduit > with Mark Space Avant-go conduit. But nothing....i cannot find this > new avantgo conduit neither via the interface of missing sync, neither > in the folder "conduits" or "disabled" conduit. > > I have tried to run the installer again.....nothing...no trace of this > avant-go conduit. How can i manage to get it and use it instead of the > MAL conduit, please ? > > We have discovered a bug with the installer for users of the MAL Conduit. If you re-run the installer, the AvantGo conduit should appear in /Applications/Missing Sync for Palm OS and then you can install the conduit. We are working to make this conduit available separately to resolve this issue. -- Scott Gruby Lead Engineer, Missing Sync for Palm OS Mark/Space, Inc. Please contact support@markspace.com for assistance with Mark/Space products. From berkowit at silcom.com Mon Feb 14 07:40:39 2005 From: berkowit at silcom.com (Paul Berkowitz) Date: Mon Feb 14 07:40:42 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Entourage and Cli=?ISO-8859-1?B?6SA=?=NX80V/U In-Reply-To: <7c54cffa38335f974f72d81e3d45be43@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: On 2/11/05 8:45 PM, "Henry M. Seiden" wrote: > I am trying anything possible to use Entourage with this Cli? in the > hope that MAC/Cli? and a common addressbook, contact manager, notepad > will sync properly. > > So far Entourage won't complete a sync at all using Missing Sync. Any > part of Entourage or database that is set to sync overwriting the > desktop fails to complete. Any suggestions? I tried upgrading Entourage > to 10.1.6 (latest release for Panther), installing the Entourage > Conduit in Missing Sync and syncing a database. It crashed Missing Sync > (got bug report page). The progress bar shows only it syncing or not > syncing one app. You can't sync from handheld to desktop, is what I > seem to be finding. Has anybody found this? > > Is there some specific requirement that a program be open or not open > to hot sync? Sometimes Missing Sync crashes on Datebook, sometimes on > Addressbook (according to Palm handheld side anyway). Next I'll be > trying PalmOne's Hot sync. > > Any ideas? Do an Advanced Rebuild of Entourage, and/or a reset on the Cli?. It sounds like there's corruption somewhere. I sync fine between Entourage and Cli? using Missing Sync (and for that matter, I used to sync fine using an old, rare version of Palm HotSync that allowed it. You won't be able to sync to a Cli? using the current version.) Your problems are unlikely to have anything to do with with the sync engine, or even the conduits, but rather with the data. -- Paul Berkowitz From kfreeman at markspace.com Mon Feb 14 10:26:58 2005 From: kfreeman at markspace.com (Ken Freeman) Date: Mon Feb 14 10:27:06 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Missing Sync 4.0.3 Now Available In-Reply-To: Message-ID: The speed improvements should have more clearly referred to overall synchronization and the backup conduit. The Desktop Mounting feature had no speed changes, but this is something we will look at. Thanks! Ken On 2/11/05 1:11 PM, "Jo?o Carlos de Pinho" wrote: > In 2/11/05 15:17, "Eric Ullman" wrote: > >> Mark/Space is pleased to announce the immediate availability of version >> 4.0.3 of The Missing Sync for Palm OS. > > > Impressive list of changes. > > Unfortunately this list doesn't contain any reference to speed improvements > in the Missing Sync.prc component. > > Since there were no reference, I had to make some benchmarks. The results? > An 8.6 MB file transferred to a Tungsten external card took: > > 1'20" (80 seconds) via Missing Sync.prc > > 0'20" (20 seconds) via Card Export 2 > > > Is there any plans to improve this weak performance? > > > > Regards, > > Jo?o Carlos de Pinho > > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk From kfreeman at markspace.com Mon Feb 14 10:35:15 2005 From: kfreeman at markspace.com (Ken Freeman) Date: Mon Feb 14 10:35:24 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Entourage and Cli=?ISO-8859-1?B?6SA=?=NX80V/U In-Reply-To: <7c54cffa38335f974f72d81e3d45be43@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: Check out the Knowledgebase Article at http://www.markspace.com/support/index.php?x=&mod_id=2&id=2361. This article has two links at the bottom with some very good troubleshooting steps. If you are unable to sync after trying this information please report the problem to support@markspace.com. Ken On 2/11/05 8:45 PM, "Henry M. Seiden" wrote: > I am trying anything possible to use Entourage with this Cli? in the > hope that MAC/Cli? and a common addressbook, contact manager, notepad > will sync properly. > > So far Entourage won't complete a sync at all using Missing Sync. Any > part of Entourage or database that is set to sync overwriting the > desktop fails to complete. Any suggestions? I tried upgrading Entourage > to 10.1.6 (latest release for Panther), installing the Entourage > Conduit in Missing Sync and syncing a database. It crashed Missing Sync > (got bug report page). The progress bar shows only it syncing or not > syncing one app. You can't sync from handheld to desktop, is what I > seem to be finding. Has anybody found this? > > Is there some specific requirement that a program be open or not open > to hot sync? Sometimes Missing Sync crashes on Datebook, sometimes on > Addressbook (according to Palm handheld side anyway). Next I'll be > trying PalmOne's Hot sync. > > Any ideas? > > Henry > -- > My wife has a slight impediment in her speech - > every now and then she stops to breathe. > (Jimmy Durante) > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk From kfreeman at markspace.com Mon Feb 14 10:39:10 2005 From: kfreeman at markspace.com (Ken Freeman) Date: Mon Feb 14 10:39:18 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Entourage and Cli=?ISO-8859-1?B?6SA=?=NX80V/U In-Reply-To: <388a386a7b0f0160651ad6f557ba63a6@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: Did you try to sync, just the DateBook and none of the others? I've heard of problems when recurring Entourage events have no end dates, or beginning dates prior to 1970. Check out the Knowledgebase Article at http://www.markspace.com/support/index.php?x=&mod_id=2&id=2361. This article has two links at the bottom with some very good troubleshooting steps. If you are unable to sync after trying this information please report the problem to support@markspace.com. Ken On 2/11/05 11:02 PM, "Henry M. Seiden" wrote: > I am trying anything possible to use Entourage with this Cli? in the > hope that MAC/Cli? and a common addressbook, contact manager, notepad > will sync properly. I had poor results with iSync and Addressbook/iCal. > Names+calendar entries got dumped and did not transfer, operation was > too slow, integration on the MAC side between the various apps was > flaky at best- nonexistant between Addressbook and iCal. > > Doing one database at a time, the Missing Sync would crash at the > Calendar/Datebook database sync. If I skip that, the rest of the data- > Contacts, Notes, Tasks (aka, their Palm equivalents Addressbook, Memos, > ToDo)- would come over OK from the handheld. Datebook will not sync at > all. I tried several different methods- Handheld overwrites MAC, > synchronize (first time sync), sync only one category (any one). > > So far, at least the data no longer gets mangled. Don't know about sync > with two MACs and the Palm. Right now I'm just syncing with one laptop > to test. > > > Henry > -- > My wife has a slight impediment in her speech - > every now and then she stops to breathe. > (Jimmy Durante) > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk From sgruby at markspace.com Mon Feb 14 11:09:50 2005 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Mon Feb 14 11:10:19 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Mark/Space AvantGo Conduit Message-ID: We have identified an issue with our 4.0.3 installer which will not install our AvantGo conduit if you had MAL Conduit installed. In our testing, re-running the installer will place the conduit at: /Applications/Missing Sync for Palm OS/ which you can just double click to install or if you don't want to re-install (or have other issues), you can download the conduit from: We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused you. -- Scott Gruby Lead Engineer, Missing Sync for Palm OS Mark/Space, Inc. Please contact support@markspace.com for assistance with Mark/Space products. From kfreeman at markspace.com Mon Feb 14 12:20:00 2005 From: kfreeman at markspace.com (Ken Freeman) Date: Mon Feb 14 12:20:12 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Problems synching In-Reply-To: <1eb.34b470fd.2f421efe@aol.com> Message-ID: I would suggest a SOFT reset of your handheld, and make sure that your device is properly in the cradle and the cradle is plugged into a USB port on your Mac and not the keyboard or a non-powered hub. Ken On 2/14/05 7:34 AM, "BDarkatsh@aol.com" wrote: > I just upgraded to 4.0.3 from the previous upgrade. I tried to synch right > after I completed the upgrade (and the system restart) and got the standard > error message "Connection ....lost..." after each attempt. Settings have not > been > changed (at least by me) and same programs are installed and active as before > the upgrade. I have an iBook with Mac OS 10.3.8 Palm Desktop v4.2.1, and > Tungsten T3 with Palm OS 5.2.1.3.0. I have it set to synch locally via > cradle/cable, and use the button on the cradle to synch. Memory is not an > issue with > either iBook or with Tungsten. I had no problems with previous upgrade. > > Now what? : ( > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk From mark at pathworks.net Mon Feb 14 13:27:40 2005 From: mark at pathworks.net (Mark Farley) Date: Mon Feb 14 14:01:10 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] iphoto plugin Message-ID: Hi all, I downloaded the new 4.03 today and installed it. I was excited to see the iphoto connection, however after reading the docs, and following the instructions I don't get any of the export windows that are shown. Is there something I need to install? Am I missing a piece? Thanks Mark From BDarkatsh at aol.com Mon Feb 14 20:57:08 2005 From: BDarkatsh at aol.com (BDarkatsh@aol.com) Date: Mon Feb 14 17:57:14 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Problems synching Message-ID: <76.4ce8442b.2f42b0f4@aol.com> Did that. No diff. Have a powered hub, but also tried the direct USB hookup. Still no diff. Am used to synching every night. Not being able to do so now is giving me withdrawal symptoms. From kfreeman at markspace.com Mon Feb 14 19:39:38 2005 From: kfreeman at markspace.com (Ken Freeman) Date: Mon Feb 14 19:39:46 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Problems synching In-Reply-To: <76.4ce8442b.2f42b0f4@aol.com> Message-ID: Try switching from the Disabled to Synchronize mode in the Missing Sync (buttons at the bottom). Then try to sync again. Do you have a MissingSyncLog.txt file in your user's Library/Logs folder? If so please send it to me. Ken On 2/14/05 5:57 PM, "BDarkatsh@aol.com" wrote: > Did that. No diff. Have a powered hub, but also tried the direct USB hookup. > Still no diff. Am used to synching every night. Not being able to do so now is > giving me withdrawal symptoms. > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk From BDarkatsh at aol.com Mon Feb 14 23:24:55 2005 From: BDarkatsh at aol.com (BDarkatsh@aol.com) Date: Mon Feb 14 20:25:05 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Problems synching Message-ID: <8d.20c02266.2f42d397@aol.com> Praise be, the problem solved itself - almost! I wanted to print out your reply to remind me what to send to you when I discovered the printer wasn't recognized. This set off bells in my head and I restarted the system - again. (I had done this before, after installing MS upgrade, but maybe it didn't reset everything for some reason). Anyway this time it worked - both printer and MS. I feel rather stupid - I should have known restarting more than once often soves a multitude of problems. Only one problem remains - synch was completed satisfactorily but with an error message that it detected a conflict for MemoPad Database (MemosDB-PMem) and for me to select only one of the following conduits: ...Mark/Space Memo Pad (Mark/Space MemoPad) ...Palm Desktop (Memo Pad) ...Palm Desktop (Memos) Please translate. Where do I find these? I rarely use the memo feature, but do like the Palm Desktop. I use Super Names and DateMan on the Tungsten for the corresponding features. The Memos on the Tungsten shows that it is Palm Memos v.1.0. As I said, I've rarely used it. Do you still want my log file? From KMacMail at mac.com Mon Feb 14 21:37:40 2005 From: KMacMail at mac.com (Klaus P. Fechner) Date: Mon Feb 14 21:37:44 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] MS 4.0.3 syncs only once In-Reply-To: References: <2CB212E0-5547-11D9-8876-0003934B11F0@mac.com> Message-ID: Hi! I updated to Missing Sync 4.0.3. Since then I can sync once after rebooting. After that, the connection with the "desktop cannot be established". I can fix it temporarily by force quitting Missing Sync Monitor in Activity Monitor and re-launching it from inside the package resource folder. But only once ... another sync and then I have to do it over. This was working fine with MS 4.0.2 Setup: Tungsten T5 Bluetooth connection. G5 running OS X 10.3.7. Any ideas how to fix this? Thanks! Klaus From kfreeman at markspace.com Mon Feb 14 22:04:24 2005 From: kfreeman at markspace.com (Ken Freeman) Date: Mon Feb 14 22:04:33 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Problems synching In-Reply-To: <8d.20c02266.2f42d397@aol.com> Message-ID: In the Missing Sync disable the Mark/Space memo Pad (uncheck the box on the left side in the Conduit view) if you want to continue and sync your handheld Memos to the Palm Desktop software. I think the T3 has the newer palmOne databases which use both the Memos and Memo Pad conduits. If you sync with both of those checked and still get the error try disabling one of them. Glad that you are up and running. I don't thing I need to see your log file. Ken On 2/14/05 8:24 PM, "BDarkatsh@aol.com" wrote: > Praise be, the problem solved itself - almost! I wanted to print out your > reply to remind me what to send to you when I discovered the printer wasn't > recognized. This set off bells in my head and I restarted the system - again. > (I > had done this before, after installing MS upgrade, but maybe it didn't reset > everything for some reason). Anyway this time it worked - both printer and MS. > I > feel rather stupid - I should have known restarting more than once often soves > a multitude of problems. > > Only one problem remains - synch was completed satisfactorily but with an > error message that it detected a conflict for MemoPad Database (MemosDB-PMem) > and > for me to select only one of the following conduits: > ...Mark/Space Memo Pad (Mark/Space MemoPad) > ...Palm Desktop (Memo Pad) > ...Palm Desktop (Memos) > > Please translate. Where do I find these? I rarely use the memo feature, but > do like the Palm Desktop. I use Super Names and DateMan on the Tungsten for > the > corresponding features. The Memos on the Tungsten shows that it is Palm Memos > v.1.0. As I said, I've rarely used it. Do you still want my log file? > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk From BDarkatsh at aol.com Tue Feb 15 01:21:31 2005 From: BDarkatsh at aol.com (BDarkatsh@aol.com) Date: Mon Feb 14 22:21:38 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Problems synching Message-ID: Success on all fronts - Thank you, thank you, thank you! I really must compliment you folks for your prompt, accurate, and attentive responses to problems! It's like having a personal guru at one's beck and call! BTW, it's Valentine's Day; I hope you know how much you're appreciated! - Bev From mspalacios at cinci.rr.com Tue Feb 15 15:54:27 2005 From: mspalacios at cinci.rr.com (Miguel Palacios (lists)) Date: Tue Feb 15 12:54:38 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Problems syncing with Treo 650 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Feb 11, 2005, at 4:37 PM, Pat Dengler wrote: > I'm having difficulties syncing my 650 with Missing Sync - on a mac, > using iSync and the updated Missing Sync from yesterday. The biggest > annoyance is that my voicemail number, one programed into the phone to > retrieve voicemail, keeps getting changed to a long string that starts > with a zero. I end up calling the operator. What's worse is I can't > manually change it. How is this a missing sync problem? I think it's happening on all desktop platforms, per Treocentral.com's discussions. From bobwilliams at knology.net Tue Feb 15 18:36:40 2005 From: bobwilliams at knology.net (Robert Williams) Date: Tue Feb 15 16:36:45 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Problems syncing with Treo 650 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Of course this is not going to solve your immediate problem Pat, but FWIW I am having no problems at all using Missing Sync and Entourage. I assume you are using iSync to sync to address, iCal etc.? If that is the case, then Miguel is correct - the problem is iSync & the Apple Apps. IMHO Apple has done a very poor job of keeping up to date with SmartPhone (and other Bluetooth phones as well) My wife Motorola V220 is recognized by the Bluetooth assistant, and she can even use the phone as a BT modem if she likes - but she can not sync with the iApps! :-( Sure wish Mark/Space made Phone Conduits that work as well as Missing Sync! -- Cheers, Bob On 2/15/05 2:54 PM, "Miguel Palacios (lists)" wrote: > On Feb 11, 2005, at 4:37 PM, Pat Dengler wrote: > >> I'm having difficulties syncing my 650 with Missing Sync - on a mac, >> using iSync and the updated Missing Sync from yesterday. The biggest >> annoyance is that my voicemail number, one programed into the phone to >> retrieve voicemail, keeps getting changed to a long string that starts >> with a zero. I end up calling the operator. What's worse is I can't >> manually change it. > > How is this a missing sync problem? I think it's happening on all > desktop platforms, per Treocentral.com's discussions. > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > From pdengler at gmail.com Tue Feb 15 16:58:04 2005 From: pdengler at gmail.com (Pat Dengler) Date: Tue Feb 15 16:58:10 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Problems syncing with Treo 650 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5f7e279d750692271f7f4c28a79fcf73@mac.com> The voicemail issue has been solved...I'm not sure what caused the problem but Cingular sent it to my over OTA and it hasn't changed since then. Yes iSync seems to be the weak link - MS was able to launch iSync during my hotsync this am but it just sat there and didn't do anything. I had to delete then reinstall the iSync conduit for it to work. All good now. On Feb 15, 2005, at 4:36 PM, Robert Williams wrote: > Of course this is not going to solve your immediate problem Pat, but > FWIW I > am having no problems at all using Missing Sync and Entourage. > > I assume you are using iSync to sync to address, iCal etc.? If that is > the > case, then Miguel is correct - the problem is iSync & the Apple Apps. > > IMHO Apple has done a very poor job of keeping up to date with > SmartPhone > (and other Bluetooth phones as well) My wife Motorola V220 is > recognized by > the Bluetooth assistant, and she can even use the phone as a BT modem > if she > likes - but she can not sync with the iApps! :-( > > Sure wish Mark/Space made Phone Conduits that work as well as Missing > Sync! > -- > Cheers, > > Bob > > > On 2/15/05 2:54 PM, "Miguel Palacios (lists)" > > wrote: > >> On Feb 11, 2005, at 4:37 PM, Pat Dengler wrote: >> >>> I'm having difficulties syncing my 650 with Missing Sync - on a mac, >>> using iSync and the updated Missing Sync from yesterday. The biggest >>> annoyance is that my voicemail number, one programed into the phone >>> to >>> retrieve voicemail, keeps getting changed to a long string that >>> starts >>> with a zero. I end up calling the operator. What's worse is I can't >>> manually change it. >> >> How is this a missing sync problem? I think it's happening on all >> desktop platforms, per Treocentral.com's discussions. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can >> be found >> at: >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk >> > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk From mspalacios at cinci.rr.com Tue Feb 15 22:16:40 2005 From: mspalacios at cinci.rr.com (Miguel Palacios (lists)) Date: Tue Feb 15 19:16:45 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Update soon for the 4.0.3 problems? Message-ID: <3a86852e14c1177fb058345d825ef281@cinci.rr.com> Up unti now I've nothing but great results to report regarding The Missing Sync 4.0.x. But with this release, I've had problems with bluetooth syncing (have to reboot to sync beyond a single time), VoiceMemo conduit hanging, and weird internet sharing disconnects (also via bluetooth). Are these known problems? If so, are they in the works as bug fixes for the next release? Thanks, Miguel From sgruby at markspace.com Tue Feb 15 19:34:07 2005 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Tue Feb 15 19:34:38 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Update soon for the 4.0.3 problems? In-Reply-To: <3a86852e14c1177fb058345d825ef281@cinci.rr.com> References: <3a86852e14c1177fb058345d825ef281@cinci.rr.com> Message-ID: On Feb 15, 2005, at 7:16 PM, Miguel Palacios (lists) wrote: > Up unti now I've nothing but great results to report regarding The > Missing Sync 4.0.x. But with this release, I've had problems with > bluetooth syncing (have to reboot to sync beyond a single time), > VoiceMemo conduit hanging, and weird internet sharing disconnects > (also via bluetooth). > > Are these known problems? If so, are they in the works as bug fixes > for the next release? > We have not heard of these problems; please make sure that you contact Mark/Space support with as much detail as possible so that they can try to reproduce the issue(s). If we can't reproduce the issues, it is very hard for us to fix them. -- Scott Gruby Lead Engineer, Missing Sync for Palm OS Mark/Space, Inc. Please contact support@markspace.com for assistance with Mark/Space products. From coreymcl at mobileminds.com Tue Feb 15 22:30:56 2005 From: coreymcl at mobileminds.com (Corey McLaughlin) Date: Tue Feb 15 20:31:11 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Update soon for the 4.0.3 problems? In-Reply-To: References: <3a86852e14c1177fb058345d825ef281@cinci.rr.com> Message-ID: <0547a9ba778135b18ac70f7991df6ccd@mobileminds.com> I just installed the update and it appears to work with my iSync conduit fine. However, I wanted to sync with Entourage. I installed the Office 2004 handheld program and see it in the Conduit window however, it will not sync to Entourage at all. Please advise Corey McLaughlin Mobile Minds Media www.mobileminds.com On Feb 15, 2005, at 9:34 PM, Scott Gruby wrote: > > On Feb 15, 2005, at 7:16 PM, Miguel Palacios (lists) wrote: > >> Up unti now I've nothing but great results to report regarding The >> Missing Sync 4.0.x. But with this release, I've had problems with >> bluetooth syncing (have to reboot to sync beyond a single time), >> VoiceMemo conduit hanging, and weird internet sharing disconnects >> (also via bluetooth). >> >> Are these known problems? If so, are they in the works as bug fixes >> for the next release? >> > > We have not heard of these problems; please make sure that you contact > Mark/Space support with as much detail as possible so that they can > try to reproduce the issue(s). If we can't reproduce the issues, it is > very hard for us to fix them. > > -- > Scott Gruby > Lead Engineer, Missing Sync for Palm OS > Mark/Space, Inc. > > > Please contact support@markspace.com for assistance with Mark/Space > products. > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > > From bobwilliams at knology.net Wed Feb 16 04:35:44 2005 From: bobwilliams at knology.net (Robert Williams) Date: Wed Feb 16 02:35:48 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Update soon for the 4.0.3 problems? In-Reply-To: <3a86852e14c1177fb058345d825ef281@cinci.rr.com> Message-ID: I'll be honest - I have never had success with Bluetooth syncing - not on my old Tungsten T3 or my new Treo 650. Never a problem with the cable sync though. If Mark/Space has some testing protocol they would like us to try, I'm game though. -- Cheers, Bob On 2/15/05 9:16 PM, "Miguel Palacios (lists)" wrote: > Up unti now I've nothing but great results to report regarding The > Missing Sync 4.0.x. But with this release, I've had problems with > bluetooth syncing (have to reboot to sync beyond a single time), > VoiceMemo conduit hanging, and weird internet sharing disconnects (also > via bluetooth). > > Are these known problems? If so, are they in the works as bug fixes > for the next release? > > Thanks, > > Miguel > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > From martin_p at euronet.nl Wed Feb 16 22:14:02 2005 From: martin_p at euronet.nl (martin pyper) Date: Wed Feb 16 13:14:10 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] FM sync broken Message-ID: the 4.0.3 update has broken FMsync (for Jfile) for me and others (see versiontracker.com) I have posted the bug reports to missing sync any news on this? From sgruby at markspace.com Wed Feb 16 13:17:37 2005 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Wed Feb 16 13:18:06 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] FM sync broken In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6fc06268b92dab43cf6613e95a298f0e@markspace.com> On Feb 16, 2005, at 1:14 PM, martin pyper wrote: > the 4.0.3 update has broken FMsync (for Jfile) for me and others > (see versiontracker.com) I have posted the bug reports to missing sync > We are working on a fix for this and hope to have it available soon. -- Scott Gruby Lead Engineer, Missing Sync for Palm OS Mark/Space, Inc. Please contact support@markspace.com for assistance with Mark/Space products. From rebbi at texas.net Wed Feb 16 17:36:34 2005 From: rebbi at texas.net (Folberg Steven) Date: Wed Feb 16 15:36:40 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] 4.0.3 and Entourage Message-ID: Hi, I?ve got 4.0.2 working just fine with my Clie and Entourage. Before I go ahead and update to 4.0.3, I was wondering how it?s been working for people who sync with Entourage 2004. And how are the speed improvements? Thank you, Steve From m.griffith at mary.acu.edu.au Thu Feb 17 11:16:39 2005 From: m.griffith at mary.acu.edu.au (Michael Griffith) Date: Wed Feb 16 16:16:44 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Sync Entourage Message-ID: How do people use Missing Sync to Sync with Entourage? I use a Tungsten T3. Is the pathway from the Tungsten via Missing Sync to Address Book and Ical, then from Address Book and Ical to Entourage via Entourage Sync-AddressBook/ Ical? Who has had success with the T3 and Entourage? Thanks Michael From nanajana at mac.com Wed Feb 16 18:07:14 2005 From: nanajana at mac.com (Janet Chesne) Date: Wed Feb 16 18:07:17 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Sync Entourage In-Reply-To: Message-ID: on 2/16/05 4:16 PM, Michael Griffith at m.griffith@mary.acu.edu.au wrote: > How do people use Missing Sync to Sync with Entourage? I use a Tungsten T3. > Is the pathway from the Tungsten via Missing Sync to Address Book and Ical, > then from Address Book and Ical to Entourage via Entourage Sync-AddressBook/ > Ical? Who has had success with the T3 and Entourage? I too would like to know more about this - especially using the Entourage conduit. I think you can sync only one address in Entourage and must choose between home and work for all. That would seem to make it useless. Or must one sync as above to Address Book and then to Entourage which seems to be asking for trouble. From miketall at mac.com Wed Feb 16 21:36:32 2005 From: miketall at mac.com (.Mac Mike) Date: Wed Feb 16 18:36:49 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] 4.0.3 and Entourage In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Steve, I had no problems syncing to Entourage 2004 with my Palm T2 with version 4.02. However, I can no longer sync with the 4.03 upgrade. All other conduits work fine except for Entourage 2004. I re-installed the previous Missing Sync version, and all worked fine again. I upgraded again to 4.03 and the Entourage 2004 conduit again hung forever. I have just disabled the Entourage 2004 conduit in hopes that they'll have a work-around in a couple days. -Mike On 2/16/05 6:36 PM, "Folberg Steven" wrote: > Hi, > > I?ve got 4.0.2 working just fine with my Clie and Entourage. Before I go > ahead and update to 4.0.3, I was wondering how it?s been working for people > who sync with Entourage 2004. And how are the speed improvements? > > Thank you, > > Steve From sgruby at markspace.com Wed Feb 16 18:42:02 2005 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Wed Feb 16 18:42:31 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] 4.0.3 and Entourage In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7a570372b0d6805badca759823a5cf35@markspace.com> On Feb 16, 2005, at 6:36 PM, .Mac Mike wrote: > Steve, > > I had no problems syncing to Entourage 2004 with my Palm T2 with > version > 4.02. However, I can no longer sync with the 4.03 upgrade. All other > conduits work fine except for Entourage 2004. I re-installed the > previous > Missing Sync version, and all worked fine again. I upgraded again to > 4.03 > and the Entourage 2004 conduit again hung forever. I have just > disabled the > Entourage 2004 conduit in hopes that they'll have a work-around in a > couple > days. > Have you reported this issue to support? They'll probably ask you to include some logs. If you don't report the issues, we can't fix them. We have had no reports of issues with Entourage, so nothing directly related to Entourage has been addressed. (We have addressed other issues that may help, but without a reproducible case, we can't be sure.) -- Scott Gruby Lead Engineer, Missing Sync for Palm OS Mark/Space, Inc. Please contact support@markspace.com for assistance with Mark/Space products. From m.griffith at mary.acu.edu.au Thu Feb 17 13:49:53 2005 From: m.griffith at mary.acu.edu.au (Michael Griffith) Date: Wed Feb 16 18:49:57 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Sync Entourage Message-ID: With regard to the message below Steve, when you Synced with Entourage 2004 did you use the Entourage Conduit? I tried this and did not get all my data across. That is why I have been looking into the workaround... Bypassing the Entourage conduit going for Tungsten to Isync to Apple Address and Ical (using the Missing Sync Memo Pad as well). And then via Sync-Entourage/Ical to Entourage.... Does that make any sense??? Michael I had no problems syncing to Entourage 2004 with my Palm T2 with version 4.02. However, I can no longer sync with the 4.03 upgrade. All other conduits work fine except for Entourage 2004. I re-installed the previous Missing Sync version, and all worked fine again. I upgraded again to 4.03 and the Entourage 2004 conduit again hung forever. I have just disabled the Entourage 2004 conduit in hopes that they'll have a work-around in a couple days. Associate Professor Michael Griffith School of Arts and Sciences Australian Catholic University Limited ABN 15 050 192 660 PO Box 968, North Sydney 2059 Ph: +61 2 9701 4192 Fax: +61 2 9701 4263 Email: M.griffith@mary.acu.edu.au From jzurek at cabrini.edu Wed Feb 16 21:43:51 2005 From: jzurek at cabrini.edu (Jerry Zurek) Date: Wed Feb 16 18:54:47 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] 4.0.3 and Entourage In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Did you remember that there can be no other conduit in your conduit folder that does the same function as the Entourage conduit--no Address or Contacts Conduit, etc. Move everything to Disabled Conduits except Entourage. Hopefully, it will work. Then one by one add conduits back. -- Jerry > From: ".Mac Mike" > Reply-To: "The Missing Sync (Mac/Palm OS) Discussion List" > > Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 21:36:32 -0500 > To: "The Missing Sync (Mac/Palm OS) Discussion List" > > Subject: Re: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] 4.0.3 and Entourage > > Steve, > > I had no problems syncing to Entourage 2004 with my Palm T2 with version > 4.02. However, I can no longer sync with the 4.03 upgrade. All other > conduits work fine except for Entourage 2004. I re-installed the previous > Missing Sync version, and all worked fine again. I upgraded again to 4.03 > and the Entourage 2004 conduit again hung forever. I have just disabled the > Entourage 2004 conduit in hopes that they'll have a work-around in a couple > days. > > -Mike > > > On 2/16/05 6:36 PM, "Folberg Steven" wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I?ve got 4.0.2 working just fine with my Clie and Entourage. Before I go >> ahead and update to 4.0.3, I was wondering how it?s been working for people >> who sync with Entourage 2004. And how are the speed improvements? >> >> Thank you, >> >> Steve > > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubc