From Scott at proserver.com Mon Apr 4 19:09:29 2005 From: Scott at proserver.com (scott) Date: Mon Apr 4 18:12:57 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Treo 650 Updater 1.08 (Sprint) In-Reply-To: References: <09c74987f0b9fe602d2f8c1cd93ddaf9@vocaro.com> Message-ID: <682dd3b4883a186c90691fe4bf79c130@proserver.com> I now know ( I hope) where my backup is - but where are all the photos from the Camera app and from Splashblog? Scott On Mar 23, 2005, at 12:56 AM, Trevor Harmon wrote: > On Mar 23, 2005, at 12:12 AM, Brian Hall wrote: > >> I downloaded it this afternoon, but didn't get around to installing >> it yet. >> If someone doesn't beat me to it, I'll post my results after I give >> it a >> try tomorrow. > > I decided to sink or swim, so I went ahead and installed the update. > The only snags I hit were: > > 1) Charger is required > 2) Soft reset is necessary after performing the update to get hot sync > working > > Other than that, everything went pretty well. For those of you > following in my footsteps, note that the updater wipes out everything, > so DON'T FORGET TO CHECK THAT YOUR BACKUP IS CURRENT! Not just that > your files are in your backup directory, but that those files are the > current versions, synced up with your Treo. > > Now I just need to see if this update actually fixed anything. > Hopefully it will mitigate the sound quality and dropped call problems > I was experiencing. > > Trevor > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > From eullman at markspace.com Wed Apr 6 15:35:39 2005 From: eullman at markspace.com (Eric Ullman) Date: Wed Apr 6 14:35:42 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Anyone using iGolf SD GPS for Treo 650? Message-ID: Greetings, I'm looking to hear experiences from anyone on the list who has used iGolf Technologies' SD GPS for the Treo 650. Specifically, have you had any trouble syncing with The Missing Sync after you've installed iGolf. http://www.igolftech.com/products1.php Thanks much, Eric -- Eric Ullman Mark/Space, Inc From bobwilliams at knology.net Wed Apr 6 18:56:32 2005 From: bobwilliams at knology.net (Robert Williams) Date: Wed Apr 6 15:56:39 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Anyone using iGolf SD GPS for Treo 650? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Sorry - I use Intelligolf Eagle version - would like to hear your experience though! On 4/6/05 4:35 PM, "Eric Ullman" wrote: > Greetings, > > I'm looking to hear experiences from anyone on the list who has used iGolf > Technologies' SD GPS for the Treo 650. Specifically, have you had any > trouble syncing with The Missing Sync after you've installed iGolf. > > http://www.igolftech.com/products1.php > > Thanks much, > Eric From rebbi at texas.net Wed Apr 6 22:37:24 2005 From: rebbi at texas.net (Folberg Steven) Date: Wed Apr 6 19:37:30 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Tungsten C and Entourage Message-ID: Hi, Are any of you happy with the combination of a Tungsten C and Entourage 2004? My Clie SJ-33 is dying and I was considering the T/C as a replacement, and I understand that the T/C uses the old style PIM apps, so there are no problems with the Entourage 2004 conduit. Thanks for your advice, Steve From lists at mostrom.pp.se Thu Apr 7 09:49:37 2005 From: lists at mostrom.pp.se (Jan Erik =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mostr=F6m?=) Date: Wed Apr 6 23:49:44 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Unfiled to unfiled Message-ID: I've just reinstalled my machine from scratch and now when I try to sync with Palm Desktop I get these error messages OK Calendar with 1 message(s) - Only 15 categories are allowed. All records in category ?Unfiled? were changed to ?Unfiled?. OK Contacts with 1 message(s) OK Media - Only 15 categories are allowed. All records in category ?Unfiled? were changed to ?Unfiled?. OK Memos with 1 message(s) OK Note Pad - Only 15 categories are allowed. All records in category ?Unfiled? were changed to ?Unfiled?. OK Tasks with 1 message(s) How do I get rid of these messages? (for example, tasks have three categories and no unfiled items) jem -- Jan Erik Mostr?m www.mostrom.pp.se From miketall at mac.com Thu Apr 7 12:34:42 2005 From: miketall at mac.com (.Mac Mike) Date: Thu Apr 7 08:34:51 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Unfiled to unfiled In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Jan, Are you syncing to anything else besides just the Palm device and the Palm Desktop? To tell, open up Missing Sync and look under "Conduits". The extra categories could be coming from something like iCal, Entourage, etc. The limit to categories on your Palm device is 15 per application. Go through both your Palm device (Calendar, Contacts, Tasks, and Memos) to verify that each has not exceeded this limit. Go in to your Palm Desktop and do the same thing. Make sure the spelling, characters, & capitalization are the exact same between categories on the Palm device and the Palm Desktop. If that fails, it sounds like you don't have too much data on your Palm yet. It might be a good time to do a HARD RESET on it. Link below: http://kb.palmone.com/SRVS/CGI-BIN/WEBCGI.EXE?New,Kb=PalmSupportKB,ts=Palm_E xternal2001,case=obj(887) Finally, do you have the latest Palm Desktop software? http://www.palmone.com/us/support/macintosh/mac_desktop.html And updates for your Palm Device? http://www.palmone.com/us/support/downloads/ Hope something in there works for you. Michael Tall Visual Caf? Inc. On 4/7/05 2:49 AM, "Jan Erik Mostr?m" wrote: > I've just reinstalled my machine from scratch and now when I try to sync > with Palm Desktop I get these error messages > > OK Calendar with 1 message(s) > - Only 15 categories are allowed. All records in category ?Unfiled? > were changed to ?Unfiled?. > OK Contacts with 1 message(s) > OK Media > - Only 15 categories are allowed. All records in category ?Unfiled? > were changed to ?Unfiled?. > OK Memos with 1 message(s) > OK Note Pad > - Only 15 categories are allowed. All records in category ?Unfiled? > were changed to ?Unfiled?. > OK Tasks with 1 message(s) > > How do I get rid of these messages? (for example, tasks have three > categories and no unfiled items) > > jem From harryo43 at yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 10:07:39 2005 From: harryo43 at yahoo.com (Harry Flaxman) Date: Thu Apr 7 09:07:45 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Tungsten C and Entourage In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050407160739.1739.qmail@web53807.mail.yahoo.com> I have been using the Tungsten C along with the entourage conduit and haven't had much luck with a couple of items.....the date book doesn't sync properly on my system. Email also syncs to the date book with just the date of the email and subject. Right now my powerbook G5 is in the shop so I can't very well work it out yet. I have a Clie PEG-TJ37 and I wouldn't give it up for the world. The Tunbsten C is kind of fat to the handler because of it's built in keyboard. Harry --- Folberg Steven wrote: > Hi, > > Are any of you happy with the combination of a > Tungsten C and Entourage > 2004? My Clie SJ-33 is dying and I was considering > the T/C as a replacement, > and I understand that the T/C uses the old style PIM > apps, so there are no > problems with the Entourage 2004 conduit. > > Thanks for your advice, > > Steve > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and > list archives can be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > ____________________ Harry Flaxman Dual G5's Rule! __________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. http://www.advision.webevents.yahoo.com/emoticontest From sam at newnomads.com Thu Apr 7 16:02:22 2005 From: sam at newnomads.com (Sam Walsh) Date: Thu Apr 7 15:02:47 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Palm upgrade for Sprint Treo 650 Message-ID: <679c15a49e581a93fec99206f0dfd35f@newnomads.com> Hi, Palm sent me a notice that there's an upgrade available for the Treo 650s on the Sprint PCS network. They advise that Treo owners check with third-party software developers to learn what components are backed up during a HotSync operation, and if HotSync conduits are altered. (Any data not backed up will be lost in this upgrade process.) Any ideas? Thank you. Sam Walsh From trevor at vocaro.com Thu Apr 7 16:24:59 2005 From: trevor at vocaro.com (Trevor Harmon) Date: Thu Apr 7 15:25:23 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Palm upgrade for Sprint Treo 650 In-Reply-To: <679c15a49e581a93fec99206f0dfd35f@newnomads.com> References: <679c15a49e581a93fec99206f0dfd35f@newnomads.com> Message-ID: <627d815475ab921ea3337192ca219218@vocaro.com> On Apr 7, 2005, at 3:02 PM, Sam Walsh wrote: > Palm sent me a notice that there's an upgrade available for the Treo > 650s on the Sprint PCS network. They advise that Treo owners check > with third-party software developers to learn what components are > backed up during a HotSync operation, and if HotSync conduits are > altered. (Any data not backed up will be lost in this upgrade > process.) > > Any ideas? Refer to these threads: http://lists.markspace.com/pipermail/missing-sync-palmos-talk/2005- March/002137.html http://lists.markspace.com/pipermail/missing-sync-palmos-talk/2005- March/002186.html Trevor From Scott at proserver.com Thu Apr 7 16:29:27 2005 From: Scott at proserver.com (scott) Date: Thu Apr 7 15:29:30 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Palm upgrade for Sprint Treo 650 In-Reply-To: <679c15a49e581a93fec99206f0dfd35f@newnomads.com> References: <679c15a49e581a93fec99206f0dfd35f@newnomads.com> Message-ID: <76bb9d55e3aa13c83e8c0d766c6b700f@proserver.com> I have been trying to get a definitve list of the backups including Splashblog/photo and the Pictures from the Camera app On MAC using 10.3.8 On Apr 7, 2005, at 3:02 PM, Sam Walsh wrote: > Hi, > > Palm sent me a notice that there's an upgrade available for the Treo > 650s on the Sprint PCS network. They advise that Treo owners check > with third-party software developers to learn what components are > backed up during a HotSync operation, and if HotSync conduits are > altered. (Any data not backed up will be lost in this upgrade > process.) > > Any ideas? > > Thank you. > > Sam Walsh > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > From collierof1957 at mac.com Thu Apr 7 19:30:07 2005 From: collierof1957 at mac.com (Tim Collier) Date: Thu Apr 7 15:30:11 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Tungsten C and Entourage In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9ba63ad06c2e0baeecc48cc7b7f79397@mac.com> Very happy with mine......I suffer from none of the various problems that others state on here using my Tungsten C and Missing Sync. The Entourage conduit works perfectly. All you need to remember is to disable the Memopad conduit. Tim On Apr 6, 2005, at 10:37 PM, Folberg Steven wrote: > Hi, > > Are any of you happy with the combination of a Tungsten C and Entourage > 2004? My Clie SJ-33 is dying and I was considering the T/C as a > replacement, > and I understand that the T/C uses the old style PIM apps, so there > are no > problems with the Entourage 2004 conduit. > > Thanks for your advice, > > Steve > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > Exterminate all rational though. From rebbi at texas.net Thu Apr 7 22:08:52 2005 From: rebbi at texas.net (Folberg Steven) Date: Thu Apr 7 19:08:58 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Tungsten C and Entourage In-Reply-To: <20050407160739.1739.qmail@web53807.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I'm sorry to hear that, Harry. I hope that you're able to work this out when you get your Powerbook (you do mean G4 Powerbook don't you, unless you have some incredible connections at Apple!) Take care, Steve On 4/7/05 11:07 AM, "Harry Flaxman" wrote: > I have been using the Tungsten C along with the > entourage conduit and haven't had much luck with a > couple of items.....the date book doesn't sync > properly on my system. Email also syncs to the date > book with just the date of the email and subject. > Right now my powerbook G5 is in the shop so I can't > very well work it out yet. > > I have a Clie PEG-TJ37 and I wouldn't give it up for > the world. The Tunbsten C is kind of fat to the > handler because of it's built in keyboard. > > Harry > > --- Folberg Steven wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Are any of you happy with the combination of a >> Tungsten C and Entourage >> 2004? My Clie SJ-33 is dying and I was considering >> the T/C as a replacement, >> and I understand that the T/C uses the old style PIM >> apps, so there are no >> problems with the Entourage 2004 conduit. >> >> Thanks for your advice, >> >> Steve >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and >> list archives can be found at: >> > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk >> > > ____________________ > Harry Flaxman > Dual G5's Rule! > > > > __________________________________ > Yahoo! Messenger > Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. > http://www.advision.webevents.yahoo.com/emoticontest > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > "You are not required to complete the work, but neither are you free to abstain from it." -- Rabbi Tarfon, Pirkei Avot From rebbi at texas.net Thu Apr 7 22:12:29 2005 From: rebbi at texas.net (Folberg Steven) Date: Thu Apr 7 19:12:34 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Tungsten C and Entourage In-Reply-To: <9ba63ad06c2e0baeecc48cc7b7f79397@mac.com> Message-ID: Thanks for reporting this success, Tim. Perhaps I'd remembered an earlier post by you reporting that you weren't having sync problems with the Entourage conduit, because, presumably, the Tungsten C uses the older style PIM applications. Anyway, I hope my experience mirrors yours, because today I ordered an open-box T/C from PalmOne ? $279 including a folding, external keyboard. Great deal! By the way, do you have a wireless connection on your Mac, and have you tried wireless syncing with your T/C? Thank you, Steve On 4/7/05 5:30 PM, "Tim Collier" wrote: > Very happy with mine......I suffer from none of the various problems > that others state on here using my Tungsten C and Missing Sync. The > Entourage conduit works perfectly. All you need to remember is to > disable the Memopad conduit. > > Tim > On Apr 6, 2005, at 10:37 PM, Folberg Steven wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Are any of you happy with the combination of a Tungsten C and Entourage >> 2004? My Clie SJ-33 is dying and I was considering the T/C as a >> replacement, >> and I understand that the T/C uses the old style PIM apps, so there >> are no >> problems with the Entourage 2004 conduit. >> >> Thanks for your advice, >> >> Steve >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can >> be found at: >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk >> > Exterminate all rational though. > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > "You are not required to complete the work, but neither are you free to abstain from it." -- Rabbi Tarfon, Pirkei Avot From bobwilliams at knology.net Thu Apr 7 22:21:27 2005 From: bobwilliams at knology.net (Robert Williams) Date: Thu Apr 7 19:21:31 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Entourage & StickyBrain? Message-ID: I was experimenting with Entourage & Sticky Brain today and I forget... How do you set up Missing Sync so that both conduits can synchronize ( I realize that Entourage has to have notes set to do nothing) TIA Robert From miketall at mac.com Thu Apr 7 23:38:59 2005 From: miketall at mac.com (.Mac Mike) Date: Thu Apr 7 19:39:10 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Entourage & StickyBrain? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Robert, Follow the link below for more info: http://www.markspace.com/support/index.php?x=&mod_id=2&id=370 Michael Tall Visual Caf? Inc. On 4/7/05 10:21 PM, "Robert Williams" wrote: > I was experimenting with Entourage & Sticky Brain today and I forget... > > How do you set up Missing Sync so that both conduits can synchronize ( I > realize that Entourage has to have notes set to do nothing) > Robert From rebbi at texas.net Thu Apr 7 23:09:38 2005 From: rebbi at texas.net (Folberg Steven) Date: Thu Apr 7 20:09:44 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: Cli =?ISO-8859-1?B?6SAg?= replacement advice? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi, Tarik, I just noticed this post of yours in response to my original query. Thanks for the information. I just ordered a Tungsten C to replace the aging SJ-33. Steve On 3/19/05 8:12 PM, "Tarik E Sivonen" wrote: > I use a refurbished Tungsten C and Entourage. I have not found it buggy nor > does it crash. There was some installation glitches that worked out when I > installed all the conduits first, then installed MS 4.x last. > > I would love it if DateBook 5 and Entourage could work better together. Such > as syncing DateBook categories into Entourage categories. Snoozing alarms is > very important for me. I have two MS 4 licenses for my one Palm, and I am > very willing to double my investment to have the alarm's snooze times sync > up between the two. I bet that this would need to be done from inside > DateBook and Entourage however. > > I have yet to find a good contacts application for the Palm that syncs all > the information out of Entourage. If some of you have suggestions please > email me off list and I will summarize it back to the list. > > > On 3/18/05 3:02 PM, Folberg Steven wrote: >> So, I need some advice. Do I pick up a used or refurbished Cli? running Palm > OS 4.1 on eBay? Do I wait until MS updates the Entourage conduit or Mark/Space > writes their own? Do I pick up a Zire 72 and take my chances? Or a used > Tungsten > C, which apparently has the old-style database apps? > >> My experience is that the Entourage conduit for 2004 is buggy and crash prone > but works most of the time with my current setup. "You are not required to complete the work, but neither are you free to abstain from it." -- Rabbi Tarfon, Pirkei Avot From martin.muntenbruch at gmx.de Thu Apr 7 23:32:42 2005 From: martin.muntenbruch at gmx.de (Martin Muntenbruch) Date: Thu Apr 7 22:33:47 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] iTunes+Memory card > automatic sync without need to drag possible one day? Message-ID: Hi everybody, hello Mark/Space, Synching iTunes with a Clie: Currently we have to (a) mount the MemoryStick through the Clie and (b) we have to drag our songs to the icon of the mounted card in iTunes. Here's what PocketMac does (have not tried myself yet): "[...] use a Memory Stick reader. Just take the memory stick [...] put it into [...] reader and then sync. Afterward, plug the Memory Stick back into your [...]. Now you have access to your music, [...]" Is there a chance that MissingSynch will support one day: (a) recognition of mounted MemorySticks via a card reader ? (b) automatic synch of a dedicated iTunes-playlist/iPhoto-album ? Martin -- Clie NZ90, MissingSync 4.04 G4 dual 500, MacOSX 10.38 US From tsivonen1 at mac.com Fri Apr 8 03:15:41 2005 From: tsivonen1 at mac.com (Tarik E Sivonen) Date: Thu Apr 7 23:15:46 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: missing-sync-palmos-talk Digest, Vol 23, Issue 3 In-Reply-To: <200504071901.j37J0xSn009759@penguin.markspace.com> Message-ID: On 4/7/05 3:01 PM, "missing-sync-palmos-talk-request@lists.markspace.com" wrote: > 3. Tungsten C and Entourage (Folberg Steven) I satisfied with the two. I am looking for a better address book application on the Palm that will sync more of Entourage's information. I don't use it for email. We use GroupWise at work. I may look at the Novell/Palm sync that only works on Windows. We don't have enough Wi-Fi yet to really use the Tungsten C's networking ability. My main reason for the C is the keyboard. The improvements (screen and battery) over the Tr?o 90 I had are worth the extra bulk. -- Tarik E Sivonen mailto:tsivonen1@mac.com Southern Maine Apple Users' Group http://smaug.net SMAUG, meeting 2nd Thursday each month at South Portland, ME at Southern Maine Community College From lists at mostrom.pp.se Fri Apr 8 11:15:29 2005 From: lists at mostrom.pp.se (Jan Erik =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mostr=F6m?=) Date: Fri Apr 8 01:15:38 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Unfiled to unfiled In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi again > Are you syncing to anything else besides just the Palm device and > the Palm Desktop? To tell, open up Missing Sync and look under > "Conduits". The extra categories could be coming from something > like iCal, Entourage, etc. No just Backup, Calender, Confidental, Contacts, Install, Media, Memos, Note Pad, Tasks, TimeCopy, and Voice Memo I had the same problem two weeks ago when I started to use PD but I somehow managed to fix it then ... although I don't know how I did it. Due to a disk replacement I had to do a full reinstall of all my software and then the problem is back (I started with a clean PD file and let my Palm overwrite my PD file) > The limit to categories on your Palm device is 15 per application. > Go through both your Palm device (Calendar, Contacts, Tasks, and > Memos) to verify that each has not exceeded this limit. Go in to > your Palm Desktop and do the same thing. Make sure the spelling, > characters, & capitalization are the exact same between categories > on the Palm device and the Palm Desktop. Yes, this is something I'm very careful with, none of the application has more than 8 categories so there should be no problem. But your comment got me thinking, I deleted the "Unfiled" category in PD and synced and then everything works. I looks like the Palm "Unfiled" maps to PD's "None" so when I have an "Unfiled" category HotSync get seriously confused. jem -- Jan Erik Mostr?m www.mostrom.pp.se From collierof1957 at mac.com Fri Apr 8 09:01:54 2005 From: collierof1957 at mac.com (Tim Collier) Date: Fri Apr 8 05:02:01 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Tungsten C and Entourage In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <36f7d7778a74dbfdc2d817249f5dc302@mac.com> Yes, my house is completely wireless. We're using Cable Internet connected to Airport Extreme Base Station and then the Airport Express at the other end of the house as a relay (booster). I can sync the Tungsten C from the USB dock as well as via WiFi. The USB base is a bit faster......but the WiFi is really cool too. I can get my email in the bathroom! Tim On Apr 7, 2005, at 10:12 PM, Folberg Steven wrote: > Thanks for reporting this success, Tim. Perhaps I'd remembered an > earlier > post by you reporting that you weren't having sync problems with the > Entourage conduit, because, presumably, the Tungsten C uses the older > style > PIM applications. > > Anyway, I hope my experience mirrors yours, because today I ordered an > open-box T/C from PalmOne ? $279 including a folding, external > keyboard. > Great deal! > > By the way, do you have a wireless connection on your Mac, and have you > tried wireless syncing with your T/C? > > Thank you, > > Steve > > > On 4/7/05 5:30 PM, "Tim Collier" wrote: > >> Very happy with mine......I suffer from none of the various problems >> that others state on here using my Tungsten C and Missing Sync. The >> Entourage conduit works perfectly. All you need to remember is to >> disable the Memopad conduit. >> >> Tim >> On Apr 6, 2005, at 10:37 PM, Folberg Steven wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Are any of you happy with the combination of a Tungsten C and >>> Entourage >>> 2004? My Clie SJ-33 is dying and I was considering the T/C as a >>> replacement, >>> and I understand that the T/C uses the old style PIM apps, so there >>> are no >>> problems with the Entourage 2004 conduit. >>> >>> Thanks for your advice, >>> >>> Steve >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >>> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >>> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can >>> be found at: >>> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk >>> >> Exterminate all rational though. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can >> be found >> at: >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk >> > > "You are not required to complete the work, but neither are you free to > abstain from it." > -- Rabbi Tarfon, Pirkei Avot > > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > Exterminate all rational though. From atmasphere at atmasphere.net Fri Apr 8 09:59:20 2005 From: atmasphere at atmasphere.net (Jonathan Greene) Date: Fri Apr 8 05:59:25 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] iTunes+Memory card > automatic sync without need to drag possible one day? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5bc9f1e7b1765a527e6f33a773b14bb9@atmasphere.net> This would be a nice addition. I've been using PSPWare with my PSP and you can sync against albums and playlists from the iApps quite easily. Beats file export and drag and drop for sure... though if you just want a single song or photo, you have to create an album or playlist. On Apr 8, 2005, at 1:32 AM, Martin Muntenbruch wrote: > Is there a chance that MissingSynch will support one day: > > (a) recognition of mounted MemorySticks via a card reader ? > (b) automatic synch of a dedicated iTunes-playlist/iPhoto-album ? From abrightman at mac.com Fri Apr 8 13:30:14 2005 From: abrightman at mac.com (Alan Brightman) Date: Fri Apr 8 12:30:27 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Syncing with Treo 600 Message-ID: <36ffdc4d27d28cedcc3a5fcdf060d1ae@mac.com> Even with the conduit setting set to "synchronize" it seems my memos are only going from my Treo to the Computer...but not the other way around. Any ideas on how to fix this would be greatly appreciated. Alan ___________________ Alan Brightman 19129 Brookview Drive Saratoga, CA 95070 408-253-4700 alan@brightman.com From kfreeman at markspace.com Fri Apr 8 15:13:33 2005 From: kfreeman at markspace.com (Ken Freeman) Date: Fri Apr 8 14:13:37 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] iTunes+Memory card > automatic sync without need to drag possible one day? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: People have often asked for this feature. It's a good idea, but our explanation for not changing this to date has been that a sync with iTunes didn't make a whole lot of sense because you typically have so much more music in iTunes than what your memory card could hold. Frankly, syncing with a single playlist is not much different than dragging the contents of a playlist to the mounted card. I agree the automation would be nice. Anyway, now that bigger cards are available and affordable, the timing might be right for this kind of feature. Thanks taking time to share your thoughts! We do like to hear your feature requests! We do track them and take them serious. Ken On 4/7/05 10:32 PM, "Martin Muntenbruch" wrote: > Hi everybody, hello Mark/Space, > > > Synching iTunes with a Clie: > > Currently we have to (a) mount the MemoryStick through the Clie and (b) we > have to drag our songs to the icon of the mounted card in iTunes. > > Is there a chance that MissingSynch will support one day: > > (a) recognition of mounted MemorySticks via a card reader ? > (b) automatic synch of a dedicated iTunes-playlist/iPhoto-album ? > > > Martin From miketall at mac.com Fri Apr 8 18:53:03 2005 From: miketall at mac.com (.Mac Mike) Date: Fri Apr 8 14:53:12 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Syncing with Treo 600 In-Reply-To: <36ffdc4d27d28cedcc3a5fcdf060d1ae@mac.com> Message-ID: Alan, What "Memo" conduit are you using? There is one for Palm Desktop, Entourage, Mark/Space, Sticky Brain, etc. What other conduits do you have active at the same time? I've had similar issues before and some of the following worked for me at different times: - If the conduit has a "slow sync" setting, try that. - Make sure Missing Sync is actually using the Memo Conduit that you want it to use. All others should be removed from the list. Sometimes it can be tricky to tell which ones cannot be active at the same time. - Look at your log file. It might have some clues in there. - Remove the memo conduit all together and add it back after a successful sync without it. - Delete your "memos" from the Treo. Force a single sync in the direction of Computer to Treo. Set subsequent syncs to "synchronize". Make sure you have your memos backed-up before doing this! There have been some recent Treo updates from some providers. Have you applied these to your device? Michael Tall Visual Caf? Inc. On 4/8/05 3:30 PM, "Alan Brightman" wrote: > Even with the conduit setting set to "synchronize" it seems my memos > are only going from my Treo to the Computer...but not the other way > around. > Any ideas on how to fix this would be greatly appreciated. > Alan From brad at stop.mail-abuse.org Sat Apr 9 05:06:58 2005 From: brad at stop.mail-abuse.org (Brad Knowles) Date: Fri Apr 8 19:13:41 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] iTunes+Memory card > automatic sync without need to drag possible one day? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 2:13 PM -0700 2005-04-08, Ken Freeman wrote: > Anyway, now that bigger cards are available and affordable, the timing might > be right for this kind of feature. The largest SecureDigital card I've seen is 1GB, although 2GB models are supposedly available. However, I don't think any PalmOS device can handle larger than 2GB, so you're talking about half the space of an 1st generation iPod Mini, at the very best. Personally, I'd much rather you guys spend your time elsewhere. -- Brad Knowles, "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See for more info. From martin.muntenbruch at gmx.de Fri Apr 8 22:08:12 2005 From: martin.muntenbruch at gmx.de (Martin Muntenbruch) Date: Fri Apr 8 21:09:06 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] iTunes+Memory card > automatic sync without need to drag possible one day? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > However, I don't think any PalmOS > device can handle larger than 2GB Sony has a 4 MB stick out: http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/SY_Dis playProductInformation-Start?ProductSKU=MSX4GN&Dept=cameras&CategoryName=acc _MemoryStickMedia_MemoryStickPROmedia Since it's the Pro MemoryStick it should work and play with any modern Clie. As I read in the manual of MemoryStick media, that media is designed to be developped to somewhat 36 GB in the future. Which is almost scary - imagine if you lose that tiny thing... Martin From ucgajpd at ucl.ac.uk Sat Apr 9 13:38:34 2005 From: ucgajpd at ucl.ac.uk (Jason Davies) Date: Sat Apr 9 04:38:39 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] iTunes+Memory card > automatic sync without need to drag possible one day? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >The largest SecureDigital card I've seen is 1GB, FWIW I definitely agreee (especially since I just got a 1GB shuffle which has remarkable sound quality and is so tiny it weighs less than the earphones I use (and cost less too...:-)). The rare times I've tried to use MS to add songs to the card it virtually closes down iTunes for ages, and the transfer over USB 1 is pants, as the young people rather eloquently say (or did ten years ago). Since none of the Palms even sold now use faster (and we're not al using new ones), it seems like a hell of a bottleneck to set up a nice feature for, like buying a nice sofa and having to carry it home. The only way round is a fast card reader, which means you're not using MS anyway. QED... From ucgajpd at ucl.ac.uk Sat Apr 9 13:41:35 2005 From: ucgajpd at ucl.ac.uk (Jason Davies) Date: Sat Apr 9 04:41:38 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] iTunes+Memory card > automatic sync without need to drag possible one day? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > >Since it's the Pro MemoryStick it should work and play with any modern >Clie. is that the discontinued Clie? :-) the one that will effectively disappear soon if it hasn't already, and become a collector's item? shame Sony lock everything in, those memory sticks of 36 Gb would have been fun if anything else could use them... From rebbi at texas.net Sat Apr 9 08:20:38 2005 From: rebbi at texas.net (Folberg Steven) Date: Sat Apr 9 05:20:44 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Safest way to upgrade from Clie to Tungsten? Message-ID: Hi, I?ll be receiving shortly a new Tungsten C, to replace my dying Clie. What I?m wondering is, what?s the safest way to do the first hotsync of the new PDA? If I just sync to Missing Sync, it?ll restore everything that was on the Clie, including stuff that?s redundant (such as Jot) or perhaps even incompatible (like Clie Paint or the Clie version of Zap 2016, or some obscure system prefs file that will crash the Tungsten). How do I do this? Also, I sync to 2 machines, my Mac at home and the PC at work. I have Backup Buddy installed at work. Am I better off somehow doing the first hotsync there? Thanks for any advice! Take care, Steve From plessard at mac.com Sat Apr 9 11:25:09 2005 From: plessard at mac.com (Pascal Lessard) Date: Sat Apr 9 07:25:13 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Safest way to upgrade from Clie to Tungsten? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <92EF26AD-1EA9-426D-BB2C-86829B70F2E9@mac.com> Hi Steven ! Le 2005-04-09 ? 08:20, Folberg Steven a ?crit : > I?ll be receiving shortly a new Tungsten C, to replace my dying > Clie. What > I?m wondering is, what?s the safest way to do the first hotsync of > the new > PDA? If I just sync to Missing Sync, it?ll restore everything that > was on > the Clie, including stuff that?s redundant (such as Jot) or perhaps > even > incompatible (like Clie Paint or the Clie version of Zap 2016, or some > obscure system prefs file that will crash the Tungsten). How do I > do this? This page pretty much explains this all : http://kb.palmone.com/SRVS/CGI-BIN/WEBCGI.EXE? New,Kb=PalmSupportKB,ts=Palm_External2001,Case=obj(12926) But before you do, I would recommend you make sure you have the absolute latest backup of your Clie's content : 1- Erase the folder ~/Documents/Palm/Users/(your user name)/Backups 2- Perform a last sync using your Clie. This will recreate the deleted backup folder and backup the last version of everything that is on your Clie (at least everything that can be backed up). 3- Compress this folder to have a permanent backup you can return to anytime. My understanding is that this Tungsten C is going to be second hand. I would also recommend that you do a hard reset to make sure no stray data has remained from the previous user : http:// www.tankerbob.com/palm/resets.htm > Also, I sync to 2 machines, my Mac at home and the PC at work. I > have Backup > Buddy installed at work. Am I better off somehow doing the first > hotsync > there? I'll leave that to someone more knowledgeable ! Yours, Pascal Lessard From LP87111 at comcast.net Sat Apr 9 11:03:35 2005 From: LP87111 at comcast.net (Larry Pierce) Date: Sat Apr 9 09:03:55 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Note Pad & Memo Message-ID: <8205a4486b37101ca44cd06832714fb1@comcast.net> Hi all, I have a Palm m130 it works fine, but, I can not get note pad or memo's to sync with the palm. We can see all the notes and memo's in the palm desktop on our G5 Mac and we have the conduit for the note set-up but each time we sync it fails. Any idea's on how to fix it? From brad at stop.mail-abuse.org Sat Apr 9 19:18:58 2005 From: brad at stop.mail-abuse.org (Brad Knowles) Date: Sat Apr 9 09:31:24 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] iTunes+Memory card > automatic sync without need to drag possible one day? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 9:08 PM -0700 2005-04-08, Martin Muntenbruch wrote: > Sony has a 4 MB stick out: I presume you mean 4GB, not 4MB. > Since it's the Pro MemoryStick it should work and play with any modern Clie. Not true. Only the most recent Cli? models were compatible with the MemoryStick Pro. > As I read in the manual of MemoryStick media, that media is designed to be > developped to somewhat 36 GB in the future. Which is almost scary - imagine > if you lose that tiny thing... The problem that Sony faces is that CompactFlash has higher capacities available than MemoryStick Pro, usually at least 2x to 4x as large, at any one given point in time. MemoryStick Pro and SecureDigital usually have about the same capacities available at any point in time, but SecureDigital is almost always at least 2x cheaper (or more), for a given capacity. Of course, CompactFlash is usually also at least 2x cheaper than SecureDigital for a given capacity, so there's a huge, huge price difference there. And CompactFlash cards are already available up to 8GB, although that's really expensive. When you start looking at micro hard drives in CompactFlash-II format, they're much cheaper than CF-I solid-state cards at the same capacity, which takes the price floor down even further. I'm sorry. Sony lost this war a long time ago. They need to recognize that. -- Brad Knowles, "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See for more info. From kmgasman at pacbell.net Sat Apr 9 10:51:31 2005 From: kmgasman at pacbell.net (Kevin Miller) Date: Sat Apr 9 09:51:33 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Filemaker Mobile 7 and Palm T5 Message-ID: <20050409165131.82298.qmail@web80504.mail.yahoo.com> Has anyone had any luck using Filemaker Mobile 7 on a Palm T5. I can't get it to sync properly or have the mobile 7 not freeze on the T5 From rebbi at texas.net Sat Apr 9 22:11:28 2005 From: rebbi at texas.net (Folberg Steven) Date: Sat Apr 9 19:11:37 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Safest way to upgrade from Clie to Tungsten? In-Reply-To: <92EF26AD-1EA9-426D-BB2C-86829B70F2E9@mac.com> Message-ID: On 4/9/05 9:25 AM, "Pascal Lessard" wrote: > This page pretty much explains this all : > > http://kb.palmone.com/SRVS/CGI-BIN/WEBCGI.EXE? > New,Kb=PalmSupportKB,ts=Palm_External2001,Case=obj(12926) Very useful link, Pascal, many thanks! > > But before you do, I would recommend you make sure you have the > absolute latest backup of your Clie's content : > 1- Erase the folder ~/Documents/Palm/Users/(your user name)/Backups > 2- Perform a last sync using your Clie. This will recreate the > deleted backup folder and backup the last version of everything that > is on your Clie (at least everything that can be backed up). > 3- Compress this folder to have a permanent backup you can return to > anytime. > > My understanding is that this Tungsten C is going to be second > hand. I would also recommend that you do a hard reset to make sure no > stray data has remained from the previous user : http:// > www.tankerbob.com/palm/resets.htm Well, an "open box" refurb from PalmOne ? not exactly second hand. ;-) > >> Also, I sync to 2 machines, my Mac at home and the PC at work. I >> have Backup >> Buddy installed at work. Am I better off somehow doing the first >> hotsync >> there? > > I'll leave that to someone more knowledgeable ! Okay! > > Yours, > > Pascal Lessard Take care, Steve > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > "You are not required to complete the work, but neither are you free to abstain from it." -- Rabbi Tarfon, Pirkei Avot From martin.muntenbruch at gmx.de Sun Apr 10 03:22:55 2005 From: martin.muntenbruch at gmx.de (Martin Muntenbruch) Date: Sun Apr 10 02:23:51 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] [off topic] pro and contra MemoryStick (was iTunes+Memory card) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > if anything else could use them... PSP !! > Sony lost this war a long time ago. This was never a "war" because MS is basically only for Sony devices. Martin PS, for the readers who don't know what PSP is -- it's the killer product for on-the-go-entertainment-lovers (music, movies, games...). It takes UMD disks (non-recordable) and yes, MemoryStick. This means MemoryStick is bigger than ever because, unlike with their Clies or their slice of the camera market, Sony has actually a market lead in the entertainment sector with the PlayStation. You can even synchronize iTunes, iPhoto or your Apple AddressBook onto it! http://www.us.playstation.com/psp.aspx From bobwilliams at knology.net Sun Apr 10 09:19:25 2005 From: bobwilliams at knology.net (Robert Williams) Date: Sun Apr 10 06:19:33 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] iTunes+Memory card > automatic sync without need to drag possible one day? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Chiming in here with my .02? worth. . . I agree with some of the other posters - I would MUCH rather see Mark|Space invest their scarce DEV time into what I believe is a core reason for owning a Palm-based device: PDA functionality. Given that a good number of folks are using Entourage now (especially those of us who are forced to use Windows at the office, but prefer a more sane choice at home :-) it would be really nice if my Palm (currently T3, but soon to be a TREO 650 as soon as it is available on Verizon) could sync completely with my desktop. (I know I get on this soapbox every week or so, but that should just show how important I believe it to be :-) It would be really cool if Mark|Space could develop a conduit that would sync home & work addresses, contact photos, and all the custom fields between palm OS 5 and my Mac. OK, I'll hush now (at least for a couple of weeks :) Bob On 4/9/05 6:38 AM, "Jason Davies" wrote: >> The largest SecureDigital card I've seen is 1GB, > > > FWIW I definitely agreee (especially since I just got a 1GB shuffle > which has remarkable sound quality and is so tiny it weighs less than > the earphones I use (and cost less too...:-)). The rare times I've tried > to use MS to add songs to the card it virtually closes down iTunes for > ages, and the transfer over USB 1 is pants, as the young people rather > eloquently say (or did ten years ago). Since none of the Palms even sold > now use faster (and we're not al using new ones), it seems like a hell > of a bottleneck to set up a nice feature for, like buying a nice sofa > and having to carry it home. The only way round is a fast card reader, > which means you're not using MS anyway. QED... > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > From chade at mac.com Sun Apr 10 13:28:52 2005 From: chade at mac.com (chad einbinder) Date: Sun Apr 10 12:29:00 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Sync with Macs and sidekick2??? In-Reply-To: <200504101900.j3AJ0GSn031653@penguin.markspace.com> References: <200504101900.j3AJ0GSn031653@penguin.markspace.com> Message-ID: Any word on when the Missing sync for the Danger/T-Mobile's Sidekick-2 with Macs, will be released? From chesssails at sbcglobal.net Sun Apr 10 15:21:46 2005 From: chesssails at sbcglobal.net (Charles Hess) Date: Sun Apr 10 14:21:49 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] MS and it's speed Message-ID: <7c712f31017289186a95bc10012cd9dc@sbcglobal.net> There are different kinds of memory sticks. Some are rated to be "faster than others". However, I have a San Disk MS with 256mb and when I want to put large mp3 files onto it I slide the MS into my $15 usb 2 card reader and it pops up onto my desktop and I drag the files into the proper directory and in very short order they are ready to go back into my Cli?. Charlie All I ask for is a kind word a warm bed and total world domination From brian_hall at markspace.com Sun Apr 10 15:46:51 2005 From: brian_hall at markspace.com (Brian Hall) Date: Sun Apr 10 14:47:52 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Sync with Macs and sidekick2??? In-Reply-To: References: <200504101900.j3AJ0GSn031653@penguin.markspace.com> Message-ID: >Any word on when the Missing sync for the Danger/T-Mobile's Sidekick-2 >with Macs, will be released? No, but we'll post a note to the hiptop-talk mailing list (this is the palmos mailing list) the moment we have news. Sign up for that list at http://lists.markspace.com Brian -- _____________________________________________________________________ Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 654 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 Los Gatos, CA 95030-4360 From kfreeman at markspace.com Mon Apr 11 11:25:26 2005 From: kfreeman at markspace.com (Ken Freeman) Date: Mon Apr 11 10:25:36 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Filemaker Mobile 7 and Palm T5 In-Reply-To: <20050409165131.82298.qmail@web80504.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: It appears that FileMaker Mobile 7 does NOT support the Tungsten T5 or Tre 650, or any Palm OS device running Palm OS 5.4. Visit http://www.filemaker.com/products/mbl/requirements.html and look for the note in the bottom right corner. Bummer! Ken On 4/9/05 9:51 AM, "Kevin Miller" wrote: > Has anyone had any luck using Filemaker Mobile 7 on a > Palm T5. I can't get it to sync properly or have the > mobile 7 not freeze on the T5 > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk From martin.muntenbruch at gmx.de Mon Apr 11 13:42:30 2005 From: martin.muntenbruch at gmx.de (Martin Muntenbruch) Date: Mon Apr 11 12:43:23 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Failed iSync Conduit Message-ID: I irregularily but pretty often get a synch error like this one below. Has somebody experienced a similar behaviour? I have a G4 dual PowerMac and a Clie NZ90 ******* Timeout waiting for Sync Engine, exiting ?Failed iSync Conduit (0xfffffffe) ******* - MissingSync 4.04 (v59) - iSync conduit 3.01 - AppleAddressBook 3.12 (v321) - iCal 1.55 (v670) - MacOS 10.38 Martin From mail at wlinkw.com Wed Apr 13 02:46:53 2005 From: mail at wlinkw.com (W Yu) Date: Tue Apr 12 08:47:08 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] OS X 10.4 support Message-ID: 10.4 is now officially announced for release and I am sure there's a significant group of people who are due to upgrade to it. So what's Missing Sync's compatibility with 10.4? Anything to watch out for during the upgrade process? Would be nice if there's some official support comments in this regard. -- From eullman at markspace.com Tue Apr 12 11:09:30 2005 From: eullman at markspace.com (Eric Ullman) Date: Tue Apr 12 10:09:34 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] OS X 10.4 support In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 4/12/05 8:46, "W Yu" wrote: > 10.4 is now officially announced for release and I am sure there's a > significant group of people who are due to upgrade to it. So what's Missing > Sync's compatibility with 10.4? Anything to watch out for during the upgrade > process? > > Would be nice if there's some official support comments in this regard. We're awaiting receipt of the final Tiger (10.4) build to test against, before posting our official compatibility statement. We expect that The Missing Sync for Palm OS 4.0.4 will be fully compatible with Mac OS X 10.4. For folks who sync with Address Book and iCal, Tiger's iSync app now includes an installer for a new iSync Palm Conduit designed to function with Tiger. (Note that Apple didn't make any changes to *what* data gets synced, so it is still doesn't sync work addresses, calendar categories, etc.) Best regards, Eric -- Eric Ullman Director of Sales and Marketing Mark/Space, Inc. From amcutting at yahoo.co.uk Tue Apr 12 19:26:31 2005 From: amcutting at yahoo.co.uk (Alastair Cutting) Date: Tue Apr 12 10:26:37 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] OS X 10.4 support In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: So I guess we are dependent on MissingSync coming up with the goods after all then? Can't wait! -- Alastair Palm T3 On 12 Apr 2005, at 18:09, Eric Ullman wrote: > We expect that The Missing Sync for Palm OS 4.0.4 will be fully > compatible > with Mac OS X 10.4. > (Snip) > (Note that Apple didn't make any changes to *what* data gets synced, > so it is still doesn't sync work addresses, calendar categories, etc.) > > Best regards, > Eric From brad at stop.mail-abuse.org Tue Apr 12 21:17:31 2005 From: brad at stop.mail-abuse.org (Brad Knowles) Date: Tue Apr 12 11:18:42 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] OS X 10.4 support In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 1:46 AM +1000 2005-04-13, W Yu wrote: > 10.4 is now officially announced for release and I am sure there's a > significant group of people who are due to upgrade to it. So what's Missing > Sync's compatibility with 10.4? Anything to watch out for during the upgrade > process? Seeing as Tiger will be officially launched on the 29th of April, I think it's a bit early to be asking these questions. Give it another week or two. -- Brad Knowles, "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See for more info. From lists at tntluoma.com Tue Apr 12 18:18:47 2005 From: lists at tntluoma.com (Timothy Luoma) Date: Tue Apr 12 14:18:55 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] "Web" (Blazer) on Treo600 can't access internet Message-ID: <9de77bbd02c9854a60f7497b36e845a2@tntluoma.com> I can use MissingSync and fetch my email using SnapperMail. I can HotSync across my LAN. But I can't get "Blazer" aka "Web" to connect to the Internet. Is there a trick to this that I'm missing? TjL From brad at stop.mail-abuse.org Wed Apr 13 00:52:34 2005 From: brad at stop.mail-abuse.org (Brad Knowles) Date: Tue Apr 12 14:52:48 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] "Web" (Blazer) on Treo600 can't access internet In-Reply-To: <9de77bbd02c9854a60f7497b36e845a2@tntluoma.com> References: <9de77bbd02c9854a60f7497b36e845a2@tntluoma.com> Message-ID: At 5:18 PM -0400 2005-04-12, Timothy Luoma wrote: > I can use MissingSync and fetch my email using SnapperMail. I can >HotSync across my LAN. > > But I can't get "Blazer" aka "Web" to connect to the Internet. > > Is there a trick to this that I'm missing? Your ISP may be blocking all outbound port 80 connections, except those through their own proxies. Find out what proxies your ISP uses, and try configuring Blazer to use those. Or, try a different browser. Xiino was recently updated, there may be others. -- Brad Knowles, "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See for more info. From bobwilliams at knology.net Tue Apr 12 18:23:09 2005 From: bobwilliams at knology.net (Robert Williams) Date: Tue Apr 12 15:23:16 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Filemaker Mobile 7 and Palm T5 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Well that is just plain dumb on Filemaker's part :-( On 4/11/05 12:25 PM, "Ken Freeman" wrote: > It appears that FileMaker Mobile 7 does NOT support the Tungsten T5 or Tre > 650, or any Palm OS device running Palm OS 5.4. > > Visit http://www.filemaker.com/products/mbl/requirements.html and look for > the note in the bottom right corner. > > Bummer! > Ken > > > On 4/9/05 9:51 AM, "Kevin Miller" wrote: > >> Has anyone had any luck using Filemaker Mobile 7 on a >> Palm T5. I can't get it to sync properly or have the >> mobile 7 not freeze on the T5 >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found >> at: >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > From bobwilliams at knology.net Tue Apr 12 18:25:02 2005 From: bobwilliams at knology.net (Robert Williams) Date: Tue Apr 12 15:25:26 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] OS X 10.4 support In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Given that my pre-order of Tiger will be delivered on 29 Apr, I respectfully disagree :) On 4/12/05 1:17 PM, "Brad Knowles" wrote: > At 1:46 AM +1000 2005-04-13, W Yu wrote: > >> 10.4 is now officially announced for release and I am sure there's a >> significant group of people who are due to upgrade to it. So what's Missing >> Sync's compatibility with 10.4? Anything to watch out for during the upgrade >> process? > > Seeing as Tiger will be officially launched on the 29th of April, > I think it's a bit early to be asking these questions. Give it > another week or two. From bobwilliams at knology.net Tue Apr 12 18:26:43 2005 From: bobwilliams at knology.net (Robert Williams) Date: Tue Apr 12 15:26:48 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] "Web" (Blazer) on Treo600 can't access internet In-Reply-To: <9de77bbd02c9854a60f7497b36e845a2@tntluoma.com> Message-ID: This is probably (OK it IS ) OT. . . Timothy, how do you like Snappermail? I have been eyeing the Pro version for when I get my Treo650 On 4/12/05 4:18 PM, "Timothy Luoma" wrote: > > I can use MissingSync and fetch my email using SnapperMail. I can > HotSync across my LAN. > > But I can't get "Blazer" aka "Web" to connect to the Internet. > > Is there a trick to this that I'm missing? > > TjL > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > From m.griffith at mary.acu.edu.au Wed Apr 13 09:31:34 2005 From: m.griffith at mary.acu.edu.au (Michael Griffith) Date: Tue Apr 12 15:31:44 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] E2SYNC Message-ID: Has anyone tried e2sync for Entourage? Will it work with MarkSpace? Is it worth investing in such a product before Tiger is released or will that not make any difference? Michael From brian_hall at markspace.com Tue Apr 12 20:51:02 2005 From: brian_hall at markspace.com (Brian Hall) Date: Tue Apr 12 16:52:35 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] E2SYNC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >Has anyone tried e2sync for Entourage? Will it work with MarkSpace? Is it >worth investing in such a product before Tiger is released or will that not >make any difference? I can't comment on the rest (does it work, how well it works - I don't use Entourage), but the e2Sync people claim to have a Tiger version in the works (at their listing on versiontracker). Microsoft has also said they have Tiger Sync Services support in the works. My guess is the e2Sync people would have it sooner. So it is your call as to if you want something now from e2Sync, or later from Microsoft. Brian -- _____________________________________________________________________ Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 654 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 Los Gatos, CA 95030-4360 From mail at wlinkw.com Wed Apr 13 12:00:59 2005 From: mail at wlinkw.com (W Yu) Date: Tue Apr 12 18:01:53 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] OS X 10.4 support In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Eric Ullman at eullman@markspace.com wrote on 13/4/05 03:09: > We're awaiting receipt of the final Tiger (10.4) build to test against, > before posting our official compatibility statement. > > We expect that The Missing Sync for Palm OS 4.0.4 will be fully compatible > with Mac OS X 10.4. > > For folks who sync with Address Book and iCal, Tiger's iSync app now > includes an installer for a new iSync Palm Conduit designed to function with > Tiger. (Note that Apple didn't make any changes to *what* data gets synced, > so it is still doesn't sync work addresses, calendar categories, etc.) Thanks. That's reassuring for us early adopters. -- From rpankratz at mac.com Tue Apr 12 21:09:22 2005 From: rpankratz at mac.com (Bob Pankratz) Date: Tue Apr 12 18:09:29 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] OS X 10.4 support In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Then again some of us *might* have been using it for weeks with no issue already; but I really couldn't comment on that. -bob Got Mac? On Apr 12, 2005, at 8:00 PM, W Yu wrote: > Eric Ullman at eullman@markspace.com wrote on 13/4/05 03:09: > > >> We're awaiting receipt of the final Tiger (10.4) build to test >> against, >> before posting our official compatibility statement. >> >> We expect that The Missing Sync for Palm OS 4.0.4 will be fully >> compatible >> with Mac OS X 10.4. >> >> For folks who sync with Address Book and iCal, Tiger's iSync app now >> includes an installer for a new iSync Palm Conduit designed to >> function with >> Tiger. (Note that Apple didn't make any changes to *what* data >> gets synced, >> so it is still doesn't sync work addresses, calendar categories, >> etc.) >> > > Thanks. That's reassuring for us early adopters. > -- > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives > can be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > From atmasphere at atmasphere.net Tue Apr 12 22:12:55 2005 From: atmasphere at atmasphere.net (Jonathan Greene) Date: Tue Apr 12 18:13:26 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] "Web" (Blazer) on Treo600 can't access internet In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <329d0492ccedd4c72d23f1285fa3a4f1@atmasphere.net> Since this was off topic and I was not asked I thought I would chime in... ;) ChatterEmail is rock solid on the Treo. It can asynchronously send and receive (screen off and in the background of other apps) allowing you to stay connected or sync accounts (POP and IMAP) as you like. It's significantly quicker than Snapper, which has to check each account one at a time and then go through it's in your face connection scheme. Chatter resides quietly behind the scenes, unless of course you want it to be upfront as you check mail. In addition, it is smart enough to know when the radio is on or off - or more importantly when the signal is low so you can set it not to check which kills battery life. I used Snapper as it was the only game in town until Chatter came out last September. There is no going back in my book... Snapper has some finer UI touches which you might prefer and it really handles attachments more elegantly though Chatter does just fine. Cost is considerably less... $32 for full IMAP access... no BS Enterprise edition pricing. http://www.chatteremail.com/ On Apr 12, 2005, at 6:26 PM, Robert Williams wrote: > Timothy, how do you like Snappermail? I have been eyeing the Pro > version for > when I get my Treo650 From bobwilliams at knology.net Tue Apr 12 22:13:20 2005 From: bobwilliams at knology.net (Robert Williams) Date: Tue Apr 12 19:13:31 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] "Web" (Blazer) on Treo600 can't access internet In-Reply-To: <329d0492ccedd4c72d23f1285fa3a4f1@atmasphere.net> Message-ID: Since I am always in the market for the best that is out there I appreciate your review Jonathan! I am heading to the site now to check it out - and again, my thanks! Robert On 4/12/05 8:12 PM, "Jonathan Greene" wrote: > Since this was off topic and I was not asked I thought I would chime > in... ;) > > ChatterEmail is rock solid on the Treo. It can asynchronously send and > receive (screen off and in the background of other apps) allowing you > to stay connected or sync accounts (POP and IMAP) as you like. It's > significantly quicker than Snapper, which has to check each account one > at a time and then go through it's in your face connection scheme. > Chatter resides quietly behind the scenes, unless of course you want it > to be upfront as you check mail. > > In addition, it is smart enough to know when the radio is on or off - > or more importantly when the signal is low so you can set it not to > check which kills battery life. > > I used Snapper as it was the only game in town until Chatter came out > last September. There is no going back in my book... Snapper has some > finer UI touches which you might prefer and it really handles > attachments more elegantly though Chatter does just fine. Cost is > considerably less... $32 for full IMAP access... no BS Enterprise > edition pricing. > > http://www.chatteremail.com/ > > > On Apr 12, 2005, at 6:26 PM, Robert Williams wrote: > >> Timothy, how do you like Snappermail? I have been eyeing the Pro >> version for >> when I get my Treo650 > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > From lists at tntluoma.com Tue Apr 12 23:55:13 2005 From: lists at tntluoma.com (Timothy Luoma) Date: Tue Apr 12 19:55:17 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] OT - Snappermail (was Re: "Web" (Blazer) on Treo600 can't access internet) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6cb08934059de650afcb608b1f4a66af@tntluoma.com> On Apr 12, 2005, at 6:26 PM, Robert Williams wrote: > This is probably (OK it IS ) OT. . . > > Timothy, how do you like Snappermail? I have been eyeing the Pro > version for > when I get my Treo650 I love SnapperMail. I know others have spoken in favor of Chatter, and my recommendation is to use them both for awhile, they both have demos. SnapperMail is more expensive, no doubt, but they are also a company and not just one guy, with a greater chance of being around in the long run. Chatter only works on 600/650, Snapper is for any Palm-based handheld. SnapperMail is continually improving at a high rate of speed, and has a lot of options for different ways of working and fetching. I've got nothing against Chatter, but I'd definitely recommend SnapperMail for anyone whose email is important to them. The newest version, 2.2.5 was just released and there is a demo available. TjL ps - still trying to figure out why Blazer won't connect. My ISP doesn't use a proxy as far as I can tell, I've never had any issue with Opera, Safari, OmniWeb, Camino, or Firefox. From collierof1957 at mac.com Wed Apr 13 07:31:01 2005 From: collierof1957 at mac.com (Tim Collier) Date: Wed Apr 13 03:31:08 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] OS X 10.4 support In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Good point! I'd like to know too. Tim On 4/12/05 11:46 AM, "W Yu" wrote: > 10.4 is now officially announced for release and I am sure there's a > significant group of people who are due to upgrade to it. So what's Missing > Sync's compatibility with 10.4? Anything to watch out for during the upgrade > process? > > Would be nice if there's some official support comments in this regard. From dr.choukroun at wanadoo.fr Wed Apr 13 22:49:02 2005 From: dr.choukroun at wanadoo.fr (Dr Emmanuel Choukroun) Date: Wed Apr 13 12:49:12 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Message-ID: <8908fb9fa543411b06aff79a3649a685@wanadoo.fr> Hi, I just want to know what about OS 10.4 TIger? Is The Missing Sync Compatible with Tiger? See you soon Emmanuel Choukroun From aben2amu at gmail.com Wed Apr 13 18:16:29 2005 From: aben2amu at gmail.com (A J Benamu) Date: Wed Apr 13 13:16:38 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] In-Reply-To: <8908fb9fa543411b06aff79a3649a685@wanadoo.fr> References: <8908fb9fa543411b06aff79a3649a685@wanadoo.fr> Message-ID: It is compatible... At least 4.0.4 is. AJ On Apr 13, 2005, at 4:49 PM, Dr Emmanuel Choukroun wrote: > Hi, > > I just want to know what about OS 10.4 TIger? Is The Missing Sync > Compatible with Tiger? > > See you soon > > Emmanuel Choukroun > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > From bobwilliams at knology.net Wed Apr 13 18:30:13 2005 From: bobwilliams at knology.net (Robert Williams) Date: Wed Apr 13 15:30:29 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] OT - Snappermail (was Re: "Web" (Blazer) on Treo600 can't access internet) In-Reply-To: <6cb08934059de650afcb608b1f4a66af@tntluoma.com> Message-ID: Thanks to Timothy & Jonathan for their reviews of Snapper & Chatter. What I really need is good attachment support (read bulletproof :-) I work a lot with Windows colleagues and they send me Office files all the time. So I need to be able to open attachments without fail. As for Push email - that is a cool feature - assuming you have IMAP. The accounts that my TREO will use, however, are POP3. Since Verizon flat rates you for internet services, I will simply set the TREO to check mail every 5 min. or so - not push, but the best you can do on POP3 (at least this is what I understand). One other issue I did not see addressed in Chatter; Can Chatter store email & Attachments on my 1GB SD Card? That would be a real show stopper (Snapper stores on the SD Card). I am going to play with both Chatter and Snapper - my mind is still not made up . . . Yet :-) As for the "1 guy DEV" versus "Company" I remember a couple of years ago when this 1 or 2 guy DEV that started this upstart software called Mark|Space Regards to all - ESPECIALLY that 1/2 Guy DEV that rocks out Palm world! :) Bob On 4/12/05 9:55 PM, "Timothy Luoma" wrote: > > On Apr 12, 2005, at 6:26 PM, Robert Williams wrote: > >> This is probably (OK it IS ) OT. . . >> >> Timothy, how do you like Snappermail? I have been eyeing the Pro >> version for >> when I get my Treo650 > > > I love SnapperMail. I know others have spoken in favor of Chatter, and > my recommendation is to use them both for awhile, they both have demos. > SnapperMail is more expensive, no doubt, but they are also a company > and not just one guy, with a greater chance of being around in the long > run. Chatter only works on 600/650, Snapper is for any Palm-based > handheld. > > SnapperMail is continually improving at a high rate of speed, and has a > lot of options for different ways of working and fetching. I've got > nothing against Chatter, but I'd definitely recommend SnapperMail for > anyone whose email is important to them. > > The newest version, 2.2.5 was just released and there is a demo > available. > > TjL > > ps - still trying to figure out why Blazer won't connect. My ISP > doesn't use a proxy as far as I can tell, I've never had any issue with > Opera, Safari, OmniWeb, Camino, or Firefox. > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > From mike at wistechnology.com Wed Apr 13 22:32:44 2005 From: mike at wistechnology.com (Mike Klein) Date: Wed Apr 13 19:32:54 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Treo 650 update...data missing Message-ID: problem: I own a sprint treo 650 and was informed to upgrade the firmware per sprintpcs.com web site. I use OS X and missing sync. Before I did the update I synchronized with entourage 2004. When I had completed the upgrade which causes a hard reset and then resynchronized with entourage all my contacts and calendar entries were replaced with the limited contacts from the preset address from the treo and all my entourage contacts and calendar entries were deleted. How can I access a backup and restore? Does missing sync have its own backup? If I can? I can get to the palm desktop which I do not use and there are old entries but is there anyway to get at my critical entourage data? Please help for now and provide information for the future. From atmasphere at atmasphere.net Thu Apr 14 00:28:45 2005 From: atmasphere at atmasphere.net (Jonathan Greene) Date: Wed Apr 13 20:28:50 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] OT - Snappermail (was Re: "Web" (Blazer) on Treo600 can't access internet) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5b1d44d819f81809c600b78bf64bbfd3@atmasphere.net> Attachments totally work in both IMAP and POP. It's the way that they download that is definitely less elegant than with Snapper, but once adjusted to the difference, it works just fine. I don't know about card support, but you can do push via timed sync with POP... at least the illusion of push in that your mail will arrive as IMAP does behind the scenes and with the screen off. POP protocol does not allow a server to be connected like IMAP so you can't stay connected, but the timed syncs I use for Gmail and Yahoo work just fine. AOL now supports push through IMAP if that is of interest... Test and decide... I believe both offer a 30 day trial. On Apr 13, 2005, at 6:30 PM, Robert Williams wrote: > Thanks to Timothy & Jonathan for their reviews of Snapper & Chatter. > > What I really need is good attachment support (read bulletproof :-) I > work a > lot with Windows colleagues and they send me Office files all the > time. So I > need to be able to open attachments without fail. > > As for Push email - that is a cool feature - assuming you have IMAP. > The > accounts that my TREO will use, however, are POP3. Since Verizon flat > rates > you for internet services, I will simply set the TREO to check mail > every 5 > min. or so - not push, but the best you can do on POP3 (at least this > is > what I understand). > > One other issue I did not see addressed in Chatter; Can Chatter store > email > & Attachments on my 1GB SD Card? That would be a real show stopper > (Snapper > stores on the SD Card). > > I am going to play with both Chatter and Snapper - my mind is still > not made > up . . . Yet :-) > > As for the "1 guy DEV" versus "Company" I remember a couple of years > ago > when this 1 or 2 guy DEV that started this upstart software called > Mark|Space > > Regards to all - ESPECIALLY that 1/2 Guy DEV that rocks out Palm > world! :) > > Bob > > > On 4/12/05 9:55 PM, "Timothy Luoma" wrote: > >> >> On Apr 12, 2005, at 6:26 PM, Robert Williams wrote: >> >>> This is probably (OK it IS ) OT. . . >>> >>> Timothy, how do you like Snappermail? I have been eyeing the Pro >>> version for >>> when I get my Treo650 >> >> >> I love SnapperMail. I know others have spoken in favor of Chatter, >> and >> my recommendation is to use them both for awhile, they both have >> demos. >> SnapperMail is more expensive, no doubt, but they are also a company >> and not just one guy, with a greater chance of being around in the >> long >> run. Chatter only works on 600/650, Snapper is for any Palm-based >> handheld. >> >> SnapperMail is continually improving at a high rate of speed, and has >> a >> lot of options for different ways of working and fetching. I've got >> nothing against Chatter, but I'd definitely recommend SnapperMail for >> anyone whose email is important to them. >> >> The newest version, 2.2.5 was just released and there is a demo >> available. From trevor at vocaro.com Thu Apr 14 15:07:11 2005 From: trevor at vocaro.com (Trevor Harmon) Date: Thu Apr 14 14:07:31 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Treo 650 update...data missing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Apr 13, 2005, at 7:32 PM, Mike Klein wrote: > Does missing sync have its own backup? Yes. It's in the list of Installed Conduits when you launch The Missing Sync. > If I can? I can get to the palm desktop which I do not use and there > are old > entries but is there anyway to get at my critical entourage data? > Please > help for now and provide information for the future. I'm not familiar with Entourage, but you should be able to find backups of your Treo data in /Users//Documents/Palm/Users//Backups. Your Entourage data is probably in there somewhere. Trevor From henryseiden at bellsouth.net Sat Apr 16 12:39:02 2005 From: henryseiden at bellsouth.net (Henry Seiden) Date: Sat Apr 16 20:42:18 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] OS X 10.4 support In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 4/12/05 1:09 PM, "Eric Ullman" wrote: > On 4/12/05 8:46, "W Yu" wrote: > >> 10.4 is now officially announced for release and I am sure there's a >> significant group of people who are due to upgrade to it. So what's Missing >> Sync's compatibility with 10.4? Anything to watch out for during the upgrade >> process? >> >> Would be nice if there's some official support comments in this regard. > > We're awaiting receipt of the final Tiger (10.4) build to test against, > before posting our official compatibility statement. > > We expect that The Missing Sync for Palm OS 4.0.4 will be fully compatible > with Mac OS X 10.4. > > For folks who sync with Address Book and iCal, Tiger's iSync app now > includes an installer for a new iSync Palm Conduit designed to function with > Tiger. (Note that Apple didn't make any changes to *what* data gets synced, > so it is still doesn't sync work addresses, calendar categories, etc.) > > Best regards, > Eric Just another reason to switch to Entourage as far as I'm concerned. Glad to have already done it. With Entourage you can choose which address is "Primary" and default to sync to the main one in your handheld, the other is synched as "Secondary Address". There are little (or not so little quirks) an d some bonuses with scripting and syncing using scripts as well that sync between apps if you must use Apple's Addressbook/iSync/iCal. Me I'm over that particular combo though. There are other good things from Tiger though, that I very much look forward to. Plus E2Sync has been mentioned as appearing. I'll found out more about that soon. Henry -- "The male is a domestic animal which, if treated with firmness and kindness, can be trained to do most things." Jilly Cooper From lists at tntluoma.com Mon Apr 18 01:13:23 2005 From: lists at tntluoma.com (Timothy Luoma) Date: Sun Apr 17 21:13:41 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] problems since 10.3.9 Message-ID: Ever since I installed 10.3.9 (although this may be a coincidence), Internet Sharing isn't working. The Treo 600 (USB) hangs as "Signing On" I sometimes see an error: "PPP timeout error 0x1231" As far as I know nothing else has changed. Connecting to a Powerbook G4/1.5Ghz. Any clues? I've rebooted the Treo (no difference). The MissingSync menu bar icon doesn't change... it's almost as if the app never sees that the handheld is trying to communicate to it. I don't know what else to try. TjL From sgruby at markspace.com Sun Apr 17 22:18:20 2005 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Sun Apr 17 21:18:27 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] problems since 10.3.9 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <92de3b754e1163d03be0eaba85b4ec05@markspace.com> On Apr 17, 2005, at 9:13 PM, Timothy Luoma wrote: > > Ever since I installed 10.3.9 (although this may be a coincidence), > Internet Sharing isn't working. > > The Treo 600 (USB) hangs as "Signing On" > > I sometimes see an error: "PPP timeout error 0x1231" > > As far as I know nothing else has changed. > > Connecting to a Powerbook G4/1.5Ghz. > > Any clues? I've rebooted the Treo (no difference). > > The MissingSync menu bar icon doesn't change... it's almost as if the > app never sees that the handheld is trying to communicate to it. > > I don't know what else to try. > > We are investigating issues with Missing Sync 4.0.4 and OS 10.3.9. Please make sure that you contact our support folks so that this gets properly tracked and can be reproduced by our engineers. -- Scott Gruby Lead Engineer, Missing Sync for Palm OS Mark/Space, Inc. Please visit for assistance with Mark/Space products. From pcfe at pcfe.net Mon Apr 18 09:37:38 2005 From: pcfe at pcfe.net (Patrick C. F. Ernzer) Date: Sun Apr 17 22:39:15 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] problems since 10.3.9 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <434dbeff74c4dec65e3b05fb83e4ded1@pcfe.net> Hiho, On Apr 18, 2005, at 7:13, Timothy Luoma wrote: > > Ever since I installed 10.3.9 (although this may be a coincidence), > Internet Sharing isn't working. > > The Treo 600 (USB) hangs as "Signing On" FWIW, works fine here on: T3 Bluetooth connected Internet Sharing PowerBook G4 867 MHz, 640 MB RAM OS X 10.3.9 RU PCFE -- ---------------------- http://www.pcfe.net/ ---------------------- Patrick C. F. Ernzer | e-mail: pcfe@pcfe.net -go-and-make-your-own-disclaimer-+-------------------------------- http://www.wulffmorgenthaler.com/thestrip.asp?cDay=6&cMonth=4&cYear=2004 http://www.wulffmorgenthaler.com/thestrip.asp?cDay=9&cMonth=2&cYear=2003 From dgbly at pipeline.com Mon Apr 18 03:32:54 2005 From: dgbly at pipeline.com (Deborah Griffin Bly) Date: Sun Apr 17 23:32:58 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] problems since 10.3.9 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1b43a4a7bc96f961e0e473c450bdb60c@pipeline.com> hi Timothy -- I've read the replies you've gotten so far... I don't think the problem is with 10.3.9.... Hope you don't mind me asking, but are you using internet sharing to update weather and quote on Iambic Agendus for Palm? Because if you are -- this problem of PPP timeout error 0x1231 is not just happening to you. Agendus is notorious for timing out on updates -- I think their server is very small and has to serve all of their customers both Windows people and Mac people. I've been going around and around with them on this. Drives me nuts. Takes about fifty tries over several days to finally get the weather/quote update to happen. But Mark/Space's internet sharing works just fine for EVERYTHING ELSE. Strange, eh? The windows folks on the Iambic forums are complaining about exactly the same thing: timeout, error codes, can't update -- and they're not using Missing Sync (usually). The customer service people at Agendus seem to know nothing whatsoever about Mac (the usual problem ) and have answered me with useless boiler-plate replies that insult one's intelligence and/or competence. They even said it wasn't possible to update weather & quote (except by doing it the clunky memo way) although I've been doing it (using Missing Sync as Agendus's own web pages suggest, by the way) for months and months. Again -- if it isn't for Iambic Agendus that you're having this problem -- well, then I don't have any answers. I only mention this in case you are having this problem when trying to deal with Iambic Agendus's server. So far there have been no problems for me otherwise with Mark/Space and I too am running OS X 10.3.9 on a G4 PowerBook 1.5 with 1Gb RAM. yours, Deborah Griffin Bly On Apr 18, 2005, at 12:13 AM, Timothy Luoma wrote: > > Ever since I installed 10.3.9 (although this may be a coincidence), > Internet Sharing isn't working. > > The Treo 600 (USB) hangs as "Signing On" > > I sometimes see an error: "PPP timeout error 0x1231" > > As far as I know nothing else has changed. > > Connecting to a Powerbook G4/1.5Ghz. > > Any clues? I've rebooted the Treo (no difference). > > The MissingSync menu bar icon doesn't change... it's almost as if the > app never sees that the handheld is trying to communicate to it. > > I don't know what else to try. > > TjL > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > From lists at tntluoma.com Mon Apr 18 11:27:08 2005 From: lists at tntluoma.com (Timothy Luoma) Date: Mon Apr 18 07:27:15 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: problems since 10.3.9 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Because everyone can use a good laugh now and then, I'll explain what happened. For those of you paid by the second, the short version is this: I was NOT having any problems with Missing Sync. The longer version is: PEBKAC It was late, we're in a hotel, and the lights were out except for my Powerbook screen. I plugged in my Treo and saw that the light turned solid (indicating that it was plugged into the wall). I then plugged the USB port into the Powerbook. Only problem was that I apparently threw BOTH of my USB cables into the bag, and they got tangled up. When I pulled them out and set them up, both of them were tangled together. Result? I had the Treo plugged into the right connector which was plugged into the wall, but I was plugging in the USB port from the OTHER cable into the Powerbook. Eventually I gave up, but when I came back to it this morning in the light of the day, I immediately saw what had happened. D'oh. Anyway, now that the proper cord is plugged in, everything is working dandily. Feel free to commence mocking. TjL From dgbly at pipeline.com Mon Apr 18 11:41:14 2005 From: dgbly at pipeline.com (Deborah Griffin Bly) Date: Mon Apr 18 07:41:16 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: problems since 10.3.9 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <63254f953fce6b6034a5b03f86aff85d@pipeline.com> On Apr 18, 2005, at 10:27 AM, Timothy Luoma wrote: > > Feel free to commence mocking. > > TjL > > ...never, you dear man! Has happened to us all, at least those of us who will admit it. so, ha. Deb From bf2964list at pacbell.net Mon Apr 18 19:14:06 2005 From: bf2964list at pacbell.net (BF Lists) Date: Mon Apr 18 18:14:12 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Fast User Switching Problem Message-ID: I am new to this forum, but I am a long time Mac, Palm and Missing Sync user. I am using Missing Sync with a Palm T3 and a G4 PowerBook using OS X.3.9 and have been very satisfied. My wife also uses a Palm T3 which she currently syncs to a G4 Desktop with standard Palm HotSync Software (no iSync involved) I have recently purchased a G5 tower as a replacement for the G4, and would like to move my wife's Palm over to it and take advantage of the benefits of Missing Sync and iSync. The problem is, my wife's Palm is "mission critical" and if I foul it up I will be sleeping in the garage with the dog. I installed Missing Sync to the G5 with no problems. I am using several user accounts with fast user switching. I have been able to sync my daughter's m515 to her user account with no problems. I have not been able to sync my wife's T3 to her user account on the G5. The T3 sits in its cradle "attempting to connect" but there is no screen action on the G5. Neither my wife or daughter's accounts are admin accounts. The G5 runs OS X.3.9. I am using Missing Sync 4.0.4. The T3 runs Palm OS 5.2.1 Any suggestions or advice would be appreciated. Thanks Brandt Foreman From cappiels at mskcc.org Mon Apr 18 22:26:21 2005 From: cappiels at mskcc.org (Steven Cappiello) Date: Mon Apr 18 18:26:38 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Fast User Switching Problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The only thing I can say about Fast User Switching is that I was kind of surprised to find out that networking stops when the user is not in the foreground.. i might try booting as her with Fast User Switching turned off.. if it still doesn't work, then fast user switching probably isn't your problem. >I am new to this forum, but I am a long time Mac, Palm and Missing >Sync user. I am using Missing Sync with a Palm T3 and a G4 >PowerBook using OS X.3.9 and have been very satisfied. > >My wife also uses a Palm T3 which she currently syncs to a G4 >Desktop with standard Palm HotSync Software (no iSync involved) > >I have recently purchased a G5 tower as a replacement for the G4, >and would like to move my wife's Palm over to it and take advantage >of the benefits of Missing Sync and iSync. The problem is, my >wife's Palm is "mission critical" and if I foul it up I will be >sleeping in the garage with the dog. > >I installed Missing Sync to the G5 with no problems. I am using >several user accounts with fast user switching. I have been able to >sync my daughter's m515 to her user account with no problems. I >have not been able to sync my wife's T3 to her user account on the >G5. The T3 sits in its cradle "attempting to connect" but there is >no screen action on the G5. Neither my wife or daughter's accounts >are admin accounts. > >The G5 runs OS X.3.9. >I am using Missing Sync 4.0.4. >The T3 runs Palm OS 5.2.1 > >Any suggestions or advice would be appreciated. > >Thanks > >Brandt Foreman > >_______________________________________________ >missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can >be found at: >http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk -- ===================================================================== Please note that this e-mail and any files transmitted with it may be privileged, confidential, and protected from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any reading, dissemination, distribution, copying, or other use of this communication or any of its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this message and deleting this message, any attachments, and all copies and backups from your computer. From sgruby at markspace.com Mon Apr 18 21:31:07 2005 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Mon Apr 18 20:31:10 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Fast User Switching Problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Apr 18, 2005, at 6:14 PM, BF Lists wrote: > I am new to this forum, but I am a long time Mac, Palm and Missing > Sync user. I am using Missing Sync with a Palm T3 and a G4 PowerBook > using OS X.3.9 and have been very satisfied. > > My wife also uses a Palm T3 which she currently syncs to a G4 Desktop > with standard Palm HotSync Software (no iSync involved) > > I have recently purchased a G5 tower as a replacement for the G4, and > would like to move my wife's Palm over to it and take advantage of the > benefits of Missing Sync and iSync. The problem is, my wife's Palm > is "mission critical" and if I foul it up I will be sleeping in the > garage with the dog. > > I installed Missing Sync to the G5 with no problems. I am using > several user accounts with fast user switching. I have been able to > sync my daughter's m515 to her user account with no problems. I have > not been able to sync my wife's T3 to her user account on the G5. The > T3 sits in its cradle "attempting to connect" but there is no screen > action on the G5. Neither my wife or daughter's accounts are admin > accounts. > > The G5 runs OS X.3.9. > I am using Missing Sync 4.0.4. > The T3 runs Palm OS 5.2.1 > > Any suggestions or advice would be appreciated. > 1. Launch Missing Sync 2. Click on Synchronization 3. In Preferences, check "Enable synchronization/sharing" at login. If these steps don't help the issue, please contact our support folks to assist you. -- Scott Gruby Lead Engineer Mark/Space, Inc. Please visit for assistance with Mark/Space products. From bobwilliams at knology.net Mon Apr 18 23:33:10 2005 From: bobwilliams at knology.net (Robert Williams) Date: Mon Apr 18 20:34:34 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: problems since 10.3.9 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Mock? How can I - I am laughing too hard - because I TOO have done something similar :-) On 4/18/05 9:27 AM, "Timothy Luoma" wrote: > > Because everyone can use a good laugh now and then, I'll explain what > happened. > > For those of you paid by the second, the short version is this: I was > NOT having any problems with Missing Sync. > > > The longer version is: PEBKAC > > It was late, we're in a hotel, and the lights were out except for my > Powerbook screen. I plugged in my Treo and saw that the light turned > solid (indicating that it was plugged into the wall). I then plugged > the USB port into the Powerbook. > > Only problem was that I apparently threw BOTH of my USB cables into the > bag, and they got tangled up. When I pulled them out and set them up, > both of them were tangled together. > > Result? I had the Treo plugged into the right connector which was > plugged into the wall, but I was plugging in the USB port from the > OTHER cable into the Powerbook. > > Eventually I gave up, but when I came back to it this morning in the > light of the day, I immediately saw what had happened. > > D'oh. > > Anyway, now that the proper cord is plugged in, everything is working > dandily. > > Feel free to commence mocking. > > TjL > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > From lesh at juvamedical.com Tue Apr 19 07:49:25 2005 From: lesh at juvamedical.com (Michael D. Lesh, MD) Date: Tue Apr 19 06:49:28 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Out of memory error on Treo 650 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7b1096201f15d8f758c408ac12300511@juvamedical.com> Hi My TREO 650 is no longer able to sync, either via bluetooth or cable. I get a "Low Memory Error - Please delete some data and try again". I did a soft reset and did delete some data. Z launcher tells me I have 612K free, which should be enuf. Thoughts? Thanks! Michael From brian_hall at markspace.com Tue Apr 19 09:46:47 2005 From: brian_hall at markspace.com (Brian Hall) Date: Tue Apr 19 08:49:55 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Out of memory error on Treo 650 In-Reply-To: <7b1096201f15d8f758c408ac12300511@juvamedical.com> References: <7b1096201f15d8f758c408ac12300511@juvamedical.com> Message-ID: >My TREO 650 is no longer able to sync, either via bluetooth or cable. I >get a "Low Memory Error - Please delete some data and try again". I did >a soft reset and did delete some data. Z launcher tells me I have 612K >free, which should be enuf. Oddly, it isn't. I had to get to about 1M free before I no longer received that warning/error message. If you have not already done the 1.0.8 firmware update on the 650, you may want to. The reason I personally had the issue was that after I loaded my 650 with all the data from my old 600, I was out of memory (due to the much talked about issue that original 650s have with memory allocation). Brian -- _____________________________________________________________________ Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 654 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 Los Gatos, CA 95030-4360 From trevor at vocaro.com Tue Apr 19 09:52:04 2005 From: trevor at vocaro.com (Trevor Harmon) Date: Tue Apr 19 08:53:22 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Out of memory error on Treo 650 In-Reply-To: <7b1096201f15d8f758c408ac12300511@juvamedical.com> References: <7b1096201f15d8f758c408ac12300511@juvamedical.com> Message-ID: On Apr 19, 2005, at 6:49 AM, Michael D. Lesh, MD wrote: > My TREO 650 is no longer able to sync, either via bluetooth or cable. > I get a "Low Memory Error - Please delete some data and try again". I > did a soft reset and did delete some data. Z launcher tells me I have > 612K free, which should be enuf. Should be, but evidently it is not. Have you installed the 1.08 update (assuming Sprint version)? That will free up a couple MB for you. Otherwise, I would bite the bullet and decide what to remove. Trevor From m.griffith at mary.acu.edu.au Wed Apr 20 10:03:14 2005 From: m.griffith at mary.acu.edu.au (Michael Griffith) Date: Tue Apr 19 16:03:31 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Tungsten T3 with Entourage suddenly not syncing properly In-Reply-To: Message-ID: My Tungsten T3 was syncing fine with Entourage using Missing-sync. But this morning all my recent appointments were missing off the T3. The repeating appointments were there, but the latest ones were gone. Fortunately they had all been transferred at the last sync to my powerbook so I could see what they were. I tried to sync again but they did not go back onto the T3. So I selected "Entourage overwrites Palm" in the Missing-sync conduit list and this put them back onto the palm... But why did they dissapear in the first place? And why now... When for weeks it has been running just fine??? Any clues? Is this the time to switch to the Apple Calendar??? Thanks Michael > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk From lists at tntluoma.com Wed Apr 20 00:22:21 2005 From: lists at tntluoma.com (Timothy Luoma) Date: Tue Apr 19 20:23:01 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Internet Sharing not working (but HotSync & Finder mount DOES) Message-ID: <8cf82654dc68a4916871b3e911d61a97@tntluoma.com> Ok, after verifying that I do have the right USB cable connected, and that I can HotSync AND I can mount the SD card of my Treo600 (so I know the connections are working), I am having a problem. Internet Sharing is NOT working. The Treo says "signing on" but never does (the icon on the menu bar DOES change) but I eventually get Error PPP timeout (0x1231) 10.3.9 with all security patches (including today's 2005-004) applied. What should I try? I've rebooted the Treo TjL From aben2amu at gmail.com Wed Apr 20 10:16:29 2005 From: aben2amu at gmail.com (A J Benamu) Date: Wed Apr 20 05:16:57 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Internet Sharing not working (but HotSync & Finder mount DOES) In-Reply-To: <8cf82654dc68a4916871b3e911d61a97@tntluoma.com> References: <8cf82654dc68a4916871b3e911d61a97@tntluoma.com> Message-ID: <9a83b65400decdaf5f642d2d44cbc3aa@gmail.com> Timothy, The same thing happens to my Tungsten T2 and Zire 72s.. No Internet sharing since upgrading to 10.3.9. AJ On Apr 20, 2005, at 12:22 AM, Timothy Luoma wrote: > > Ok, after verifying that I do have the right USB cable connected, and > that I can HotSync AND I can mount the SD card of my Treo600 (so I > know the connections are working), I am having a problem. > > Internet Sharing is NOT working. The Treo says "signing on" but never > does (the icon on the menu bar DOES change) but I eventually get > > Error PPP timeout > (0x1231) > > 10.3.9 with all security patches (including today's 2005-004) applied. > > What should I try? I've rebooted the Treo > > TjL > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > From pds at mac.com Wed Apr 20 20:31:05 2005 From: pds at mac.com (Paul Swenson) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:26:44 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Problem with Bluetooth Syncing Message-ID: <50093.130.85.169.172.1114039865.squirrel@130.85.169.172> I recently purchased a Palm Zire 72, and have been able to successfully synchronize it via USB to my Power Mac G4/500 (running OS X 10.3.9) using The Missing Sync for Palm OS 4.0.4. However, nothing I've tried can get Bluetooth syncing to work. The computer and the Palm are paired together (the Palm sees the Mac as a trusted device), and the Mac is configured as a PC over Bluetooth on the Palm and shows up in HotSync as a target. On the Mac side, I've enabled Bluetooth in the missing sync, and tried syncing with or without the pda-bluetooth-sync (incoming RS232 serial port in the Bluetooth Serial Utility) port being defined (I've read recommendations to delete it before trying to Bluetooth Sync with The Missing Sync). Native Palm Desktop was not able to sync over bluetooth either. The bluetooth dongle used on the Mac is the D-Link DWL-122. I've tried everything I can think of, and any ideas anyone has would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, -Paul Swenson From martin.muntenbruch at gmx.de Wed Apr 20 17:45:27 2005 From: martin.muntenbruch at gmx.de (Martin Muntenbruch) Date: Wed Apr 20 16:46:14 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: problems since 10.3.9 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > similar :-) Yes - I tried to hook up an Airport Base Station as a novice the other day, under a dark table already cluttered with cable spaghetti. I plugged side A of the cord into the WAN port and side B of the *same* cord into the LAN side. I almost called support hotline... martin From kperry7505 at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 22:39:08 2005 From: kperry7505 at yahoo.com (Kenneth E. (Bud) Perry) Date: Wed Apr 20 18:39:14 2005 Subject: Subject: Re: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Tungsten T3 with Entourage In-Reply-To: <200504201937.j3KJasSn011055@penguin.markspace.com> References: <200504201937.j3KJasSn011055@penguin.markspace.com> Message-ID: <3f3bc8b231bb5375bffb5f57e062d6ff@yahoo.com> > I have the same issue. I applied categories to the appointments in > Entourage which had disappeared from the palm and synced again, at > which point the appointments showed up on the palm again. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:03:14 +1000 > From: Michael Griffith > Subject: Re: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Tungsten T3 with Entourage > suddenly not syncing properly > To: "The Missing Sync (Mac/Palm OS) Discussion List" > > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > My Tungsten T3 was syncing fine with Entourage using Missing-sync. But > this > morning all my recent appointments were missing off the T3. The > repeating > appointments were there, but the latest ones were gone. Fortunately > they had > all been transferred at the last sync to my powerbook so I could see > what > they were. I tried to sync again but they did not go back onto the T3. > So I > selected "Entourage overwrites Palm" in the Missing-sync conduit list > and > this put them back onto the palm... But why did they dissapear in the > first > place? And why now... When for weeks it has been running just fine??? > Any clues? > Is this the time to switch to the Apple Calendar??? > Thanks > Michael >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can >> be found >> at: >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 23:22:21 -0400 > From: Timothy Luoma > Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Internet Sharing not working (but > HotSync & Finder mount DOES) > To: The Missing Sync (Mac/Palm OS) Discussion List > > Message-ID: <8cf82654dc68a4916871b3e911d61a97@tntluoma.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > > > Ok, after verifying that I do have the right USB cable connected, and > that I can HotSync AND I can mount the SD card of my Treo600 (so I know > the connections are working), I am having a problem. > > Internet Sharing is NOT working. The Treo says "signing on" but never > does (the icon on the menu bar DOES change) but I eventually get > > Error PPP timeout > (0x1231) > > 10.3.9 with all security patches (including today's 2005-004) applied. > > What should I try? I've rebooted the Treo > > TjL > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:16:29 -0300 > From: A J Benamu > Subject: Re: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Internet Sharing not working > (but HotSync & Finder mount DOES) > To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Palm OS\) Discussion List" > > Message-ID: <9a83b65400decdaf5f642d2d44cbc3aa@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > > Timothy, > > The same thing happens to my Tungsten T2 and Zire 72s.. No Internet > sharing since upgrading to 10.3.9. > > AJ > On Apr 20, 2005, at 12:22 AM, Timothy Luoma wrote: > >> >> Ok, after verifying that I do have the right USB cable connected, and >> that I can HotSync AND I can mount the SD card of my Treo600 (so I >> know the connections are working), I am having a problem. >> >> Internet Sharing is NOT working. The Treo says "signing on" but never >> does (the icon on the menu bar DOES change) but I eventually get >> >> Error PPP timeout >> (0x1231) >> >> 10.3.9 with all security patches (including today's 2005-004) applied. >> >> What should I try? I've rebooted the Treo >> >> TjL >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can >> be found at: >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk >> > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > > > End of missing-sync-palmos-talk Digest, Vol 23, Issue 18 > ******************************************************** > From missing at biggerhammer.org Wed Apr 20 20:08:05 2005 From: missing at biggerhammer.org (missing@biggerhammer.org) Date: Wed Apr 20 19:08:10 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Tungsten C Wi-Fi issue In-Reply-To: <200504201937.j3KJasSm011055@penguin.markspace.com> References: <200504201937.j3KJasSm011055@penguin.markspace.com> Message-ID: <3d910ecbedd7ad05909525b0e6e7fe4b@biggerhammer.org> Not sure if this is MS related but not getting too many answers elsewhere. I have a Palm Tungsten C. It has always been able to connect to both my work and home routers. Lately, not sure if this is after Mac OS 10.3.9 or MS 4.0.4, I can not connect to either router. Both are 802.11b/g. One is Apple AirPort Express the other is SMC 2804WBRP-G. Therefore I can no longer sync via Wi-Fi using MS. Nothing on any of the routers has changed. The only recent changes are to MS and Mac OS. I am using MAC filtering on both routers. I have checked and the MAC address of the Tung C is correct on both routers. Other computers can access both routers via Wi-Fi. Can any one point me in the right direction? If I try the Palm Wi-Fi setup, it usually says no networks in range. Sometimes it'll find a network but then can't connect or obtain an IP address. Also, sometimes it'll show a network that is not in range and show it having zero bars. I am pretty much at a loss here. I can't check my email via Wi-Fi and i can't use MS to HotSync via Wi-Fi. Any suggestions or any one who can point me in the right direction, I would appreciate it. Regards, Jahn From kfreeman at markspace.com Wed Apr 20 20:47:00 2005 From: kfreeman at markspace.com (Ken Freeman) Date: Wed Apr 20 19:48:10 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Tungsten C Wi-Fi issue Message-ID: <1580951.3196871220[10.200.123.152]@markspace.com> It is highly unlikely that the Missing Sync is the cause of your status change. We do install software on your handheld, but nothing related to your WiFi connection. The WiFi sync uses the built in HotSync Manager. I'm also not sure that the 10.3.9 release would affect the status of your AirPort. I would sync via USB to backup your data and try both a Soft and Hard reset of your device and then try to connect. Once you can connect to your network, I'm confident you will be able to do a WiFi sync again. Ken missing@biggerhammer.org wrote on 4/20/05 7:08 pm: > Not sure if this is MS related but not getting too many answers > elsewhere. > > I have a Palm Tungsten C. It has always been able to connect to both my > work and home routers. > > Lately, not sure if this is after Mac OS 10.3.9 or MS 4.0.4, I can not > connect to either router. Both are 802.11b/g. One is Apple AirPort > Express the other is SMC 2804WBRP-G. Therefore I can no longer sync via > Wi-Fi using MS. > > Nothing on any of the routers has changed. The only recent changes are > to MS and Mac OS. > > I am using MAC filtering on both routers. I have checked and the MAC > address of the Tung C is correct on both routers. Other computers can > access both routers via Wi-Fi. > > Can any one point me in the right direction? > > If I try the Palm Wi-Fi setup, it usually says no networks in range. > Sometimes it'll find a network but then can't connect or obtain an IP > address. Also, sometimes it'll show a network that is not in range and > show it having zero bars. > > I am pretty much at a loss here. I can't check my email via Wi-Fi and i > can't use MS to HotSync via Wi-Fi. > > Any suggestions or any one who can point me in the right direction, I > would appreciate it. > > Regards, > Jahn > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk -- ** Email sent from a Treo 650 using Mark/Space Mail for Palm OS. Download a demo version at www.markspace.com. ** From m.griffith at mary.acu.edu.au Thu Apr 21 14:20:32 2005 From: m.griffith at mary.acu.edu.au (Michael Griffith) Date: Wed Apr 20 20:20:47 2005 Subject: Subject: Re: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Tungsten T3 with Entourage In-Reply-To: <3f3bc8b231bb5375bffb5f57e062d6ff@yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 21/4/05 11:39 AM, "Kenneth E. (Bud) Perry" wrote: Thanks Ken- So it looks like Categories might be the issue here?? Do you or does anyone know what the best strategy is for keeping categories on the palm and in the computer lined up... This is a problem for me. My palm keeps creating duplicate categories on the computer and that is why I have stopped putting events in categories... I wonder is there a clean way to start again... Delete categories on both palm and computer and then create a new set??? Thanks for you information Michael >> I have the same issue. I applied categories to the appointments in >> Entourage which had disappeared from the palm and synced again, at >> which point the appointments showed up on the palm again. >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:03:14 +1000 >> From: Michael Griffith >> Subject: Re: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Tungsten T3 with Entourage >> suddenly not syncing properly >> To: "The Missing Sync (Mac/Palm OS) Discussion List" >> >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >> >> My Tungsten T3 was syncing fine with Entourage using Missing-sync. But >> this >> morning all my recent appointments were missing off the T3. The >> repeating >> appointments were there, but the latest ones were gone. Fortunately >> they had >> all been transferred at the last sync to my powerbook so I could see >> what >> they were. I tried to sync again but they did not go back onto the T3. >> So I >> selected "Entourage overwrites Palm" in the Missing-sync conduit list >> and >> this put them back onto the palm... But why did they dissapear in the >> first >> place? And why now... When for weeks it has been running just fine??? >> Any clues? >> Is this the time to switch to the Apple Calendar??? >> Thanks >> Michael >>> _______________________________________________ >>> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >>> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >>> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can >>> be found >>> at: >>> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 23:22:21 -0400 >> From: Timothy Luoma >> Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Internet Sharing not working (but >> HotSync & Finder mount DOES) >> To: The Missing Sync (Mac/Palm OS) Discussion List >> >> Message-ID: <8cf82654dc68a4916871b3e911d61a97@tntluoma.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed >> >> >> Ok, after verifying that I do have the right USB cable connected, and >> that I can HotSync AND I can mount the SD card of my Treo600 (so I know >> the connections are working), I am having a problem. >> >> Internet Sharing is NOT working. The Treo says "signing on" but never >> does (the icon on the menu bar DOES change) but I eventually get >> >> Error PPP timeout >> (0x1231) >> >> 10.3.9 with all security patches (including today's 2005-004) applied. >> >> What should I try? I've rebooted the Treo >> >> TjL >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:16:29 -0300 >> From: A J Benamu >> Subject: Re: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Internet Sharing not working >> (but HotSync & Finder mount DOES) >> To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Palm OS\) Discussion List" >> >> Message-ID: <9a83b65400decdaf5f642d2d44cbc3aa@gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed >> >> Timothy, >> >> The same thing happens to my Tungsten T2 and Zire 72s.. No Internet >> sharing since upgrading to 10.3.9. >> >> AJ >> On Apr 20, 2005, at 12:22 AM, Timothy Luoma wrote: >> >>> >>> Ok, after verifying that I do have the right USB cable connected, and >>> that I can HotSync AND I can mount the SD card of my Treo600 (so I >>> know the connections are working), I am having a problem. >>> >>> Internet Sharing is NOT working. The Treo says "signing on" but never >>> does (the icon on the menu bar DOES change) but I eventually get >>> >>> Error PPP timeout >>> (0x1231) >>> >>> 10.3.9 with all security patches (including today's 2005-004) applied. >>> >>> What should I try? I've rebooted the Treo >>> >>> TjL >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >>> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >>> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can >>> be found at: >>> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk >> >> >> End of missing-sync-palmos-talk Digest, Vol 23, Issue 18 >> ******************************************************** >> > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk Associate Professor Michael Griffith School of Arts and Sciences Australian Catholic University Limited ABN 15 050 192 660 PO Box 968, North Sydney 2059 Ph: +61 2 9701 4192 Fax: +61 2 9701 4263 Email: M.griffith@mary.acu.edu.au From bobwilliams at knology.net Thu Apr 21 07:30:12 2005 From: bobwilliams at knology.net (Robert Williams) Date: Thu Apr 21 05:30:26 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Out of memory error on Treo 650 In-Reply-To: <7b1096201f15d8f758c408ac12300511@juvamedical.com> Message-ID: Michael, I have heard reports that Palm Launchers really slow down the TREO 6XX line - and I have heard that some may even cause memory problems. Not sure if this is related to your problem, but you may want to try your TREO without Zlauncher and see if that helps. Another note: The "original" TREO 650 was really inefficient with memory allocation - so it is very possible that your contact & Appointment DB is taking up a lot of memory. Sprint has come out with a TREO upgrade that addresses this issue - Cingular has yet to release the update and, I suspect, Verizon will not deploy the Phone without the update already installed. HTH Robert On 4/19/05 7:49 AM, "Michael D. Lesh, MD" wrote: > Hi > > My TREO 650 is no longer able to sync, either via bluetooth or cable. I > get a "Low Memory Error - Please delete some data and try again". I did > a soft reset and did delete some data. Z launcher tells me I have 612K > free, which should be enuf. > > Thoughts? > > Thanks! > Michael > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > From lesh at juvamedical.com Thu Apr 21 08:09:57 2005 From: lesh at juvamedical.com (Michael D. Lesh, MD) Date: Thu Apr 21 07:10:10 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Two calendars.... Message-ID: <7ae53363ae16031ac190506ad989bfef@juvamedical.com> Hi I have two Calendar applications now appearing on my Applications screen on my Treo 650, after trying to get things out to my memory card using Z Launcher. Frankly, I am not sure of the actual sequence of events that got me here. Now, when I try to run one of them, I get a "file not found at specified location. (VFS 2A08). And the one linked to the Button I have assigned gives me the same error. In addition, Hot Sync using MS and iCAL did not sync new events from my Mac to the Treo 650. The calendar application that seems to be running now on the Treo is Calender-PDat* , but there also seems to be another Application called Calendar. What did I mess up, and how do i recover. Thanks! michael From berkowit at silcom.com Thu Apr 21 08:16:58 2005 From: berkowit at silcom.com (Paul Berkowitz) Date: Thu Apr 21 07:17:07 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Out of memory error on Treo 650 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 4/21/05 5:30 AM, "Robert Williams" wrote: > Sprint has come out with a TREO upgrade that addresses this issue - Cingular > has yet to release the update and, I suspect, Verizon will not deploy the > Phone without the update already installed. Just out of interest, why would the phone companies be releasing these updates rather than Palm? -- Paul Berkowitz From eullman at markspace.com Thu Apr 21 08:41:31 2005 From: eullman at markspace.com (Eric Ullman) Date: Thu Apr 21 07:41:35 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Out of memory error on Treo 650 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 4/21/05 7:16, "Paul Berkowitz" wrote: > On 4/21/05 5:30 AM, "Robert Williams" wrote: > >> Sprint has come out with a TREO upgrade that addresses this issue - Cingular >> has yet to release the update and, I suspect, Verizon will not deploy the >> Phone without the update already installed. > > Just out of interest, why would the phone companies be releasing these > updates rather than Palm? Welcome to the wonderful world of cellular carrier licensed hardware and carrier-specific features. ;-) Eric Ullman Mark/Space, Inc. From chade at mac.com Thu Apr 21 10:03:19 2005 From: chade at mac.com (Chad Einbinder) Date: Thu Apr 21 09:03:23 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Missing sync for sidekick-2 trouble shooting digest? In-Reply-To: <200504211411.j3LEBCSn015928@penguin.markspace.com> References: <200504211411.j3LEBCSn015928@penguin.markspace.com> Message-ID: <12f65885777f30abc5359753eb93b56b@mac.com> I just ordered my new sidekick 2. Was waiting for missing Sync to release their new utility. Missing sync for Sidekick. is there going to be a separate digest for trouble shooting? Or should we respond here? Thanks in advance, Chad. From sgruby at markspace.com Thu Apr 21 10:19:25 2005 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Thu Apr 21 09:19:28 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Missing sync for sidekick-2 trouble shooting digest? In-Reply-To: <12f65885777f30abc5359753eb93b56b@mac.com> References: <200504211411.j3LEBCSn015928@penguin.markspace.com> <12f65885777f30abc5359753eb93b56b@mac.com> Message-ID: <5edace446ae0774515748a02ce099da8@markspace.com> On Apr 21, 2005, at 9:03 AM, Chad Einbinder wrote: > I just ordered my new sidekick 2. Was waiting for missing Sync to > release their new utility. Missing sync for Sidekick. is there going > to be a separate digest for trouble shooting? Or should we respond > here? > > Thanks in advance, > Please visit: to sign up for the list related to that product. -- Scott Gruby Lead Engineer Mark/Space, Inc. Please visit for assistance with Mark/Space products. From kfreeman at markspace.com Thu Apr 21 10:22:40 2005 From: kfreeman at markspace.com (Ken Freeman) Date: Thu Apr 21 09:22:46 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Problem with Bluetooth Syncing In-Reply-To: <50093.130.85.169.172.1114039865.squirrel@130.85.169.172> Message-ID: A few ideas... 1) Soft Reset You may have done this already, but sometimes a soft reset does wonders. You may want to even do a backup sync via USB and then do a hard reset. 2) Remove the pda-bluetooth-sync Looks like you tried this, but just making sure. This has been known to conflict. 3) Enable checkbox for "Non-Compliant handheld" The Zire 72 should work just fine, but give this a shot. 4) Try on a different Mac or different Bluetooth dongle Ken On 4/20/05 4:31 PM, "Paul Swenson" wrote: > I recently purchased a Palm Zire 72, and have been able to successfully > synchronize it via USB to my Power Mac G4/500 (running OS X 10.3.9) using The > Missing Sync for Palm OS 4.0.4. However, nothing I've tried can get Bluetooth > syncing to work. The computer and the Palm are paired together (the Palm sees > the Mac as a trusted device), and the Mac is configured as a PC over Bluetooth > on the Palm and shows up in HotSync as a target. On the Mac side, I've enabled > Bluetooth in the missing sync, and tried syncing with or without the > pda-bluetooth-sync (incoming RS232 serial port in the Bluetooth Serial > Utility) port being defined (I've read recommendations to delete it before > trying to Bluetooth Sync with The Missing Sync). Native Palm Desktop was not > able to sync over bluetooth either. The bluetooth dongle used on the Mac is > the D-Link DWL-122