From brian_hall at markspace.com Wed Sep 1 00:01:55 2004 From: brian_hall at markspace.com (Brian Hall) Date: Tue Aug 31 14:20:34 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] cyrillic support In-Reply-To: <49615202-FB31-11D8-9E1C-000A95C465FE@Bobin.ru> References: <49615202-FB31-11D8-9E1C-000A95C465FE@Bobin.ru> Message-ID: At 3:36 PM +0600 8/31/04, Eugene Bobin wrote: >Hello, > >Does anybody know how can I sync my palm (with all data in cyrllic >cp1251 charset on it) with iCal/AddressBook? > >As I figured out, the problem is in Apple's Palm iSync conduit. The problem could instead be with the add-on software you use to get Cyrillic. Do a "view log" and see what language your device is reporting when you do a sync. If it says "0", that means English, and we are just dutifully listening to that value and presuming that the character encoding is Roman. Look for a line like "6/27/04 2:49 PM Setting Hello Response, type is PalmSyncTypeSlow, language is 0 (BladeLanguageEnglish)" in your Missing Sync Log. Also, please answer the following: - Are you able to sync Cyrillic with this same device using a PC? - If so, did it require modified/updated conduits, or were you able to use a "stock" copy of Palm Desktop for Windows? >Also I've found that MemoPad application from Missing Sync incorrectly >displays first letter in each line of memo. Is this all the time? Or just when using non-Roman text in the memo? Brian -- _____________________________________________________________________ Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 654 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 Los Gatos, CA 95030-4360 From aric1 at hotmail.com Wed Sep 1 00:11:49 2004 From: aric1 at hotmail.com (Aric Pedersen) Date: Tue Aug 31 20:11:58 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Tapwave Zodiac Game installation Redux Message-ID: Well now I can say for certain that at least on my computer Zodiac game installation doesn't work properly. Here's a recent example: I bought Firefly from the Tapwave store (for a discount) and got the typical PC Zodiac installer. I used to just drag the zipped file or the install.ini file to the game installer and it would prompt me just like the PC installer. Telling me the game being installed, and offering to install it in internal memory or either one of my 2 1 GB SD cards. This doesn't happen in the latest beta of MS for Palm OS. If I drag the zipped file to the MS icon, it takes a couple of seconds and then adds firefly.prc to my internal memory install queue. The data file, which MUST go on a card is totally ignored. To make matters worse, I CAN'T install the data file, firefly.cfl using the MS installer. I have to mount the card, create the correct directory as listed in the .ini file and drag the card there. Any chance of having the proper functionality of the Zodiac game installer restored in a future version? I would like to not have to do everything manually. Here's a the fireflyinstall.ini file so you can see what I'm talking about: ; Main installer settings section ; Keys: ; AppName - The top-level name of the application. This will be used in messages to the user. ; ; Welcome - The title displayed at the top of the main screen. ; ; welcomeText - Any additional text the developer wishes to display on the main screen. Instructions to the ; user, etc. ; ; PalmFiles - specifies then number of files to be installed; ; ; each file's properties are described in separate section called [PalmFileXXX] ; where XXX is the number of the file starting from 1 ; [FireflyInstall] AppName=Firefly Welcome=Welcome to the Extreme AI Firefly Install Program WelcomeText=This program will install Firefly on your Zodiac device.\nFirst select the device, and the slot to install to, and press 'Install' to continue.\nSoftware will be sent to your device in the next HotSync session. PalmFiles=2 [PalmFile1] Source=firefly.prc Target=RAM [PalmFile2] Source=firefly.cfl Target=CARD Folder=PALM\programs\firefly-XAff Regards, Aric From Eugene at Bobin.ru Wed Sep 1 13:35:44 2004 From: Eugene at Bobin.ru (Eugene Bobin) Date: Tue Aug 31 23:33:34 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] cyrillic support In-Reply-To: References: <49615202-FB31-11D8-9E1C-000A95C465FE@Bobin.ru> Message-ID: <26E92062-FBE1-11D8-BA00-000A95C465FE@Bobin.ru> 01.09.2004, ? 3:01, Brian Hall ???????(?): > At 3:36 PM +0600 8/31/04, Eugene Bobin wrote: >> Hello, >> >> Does anybody know how can I sync my palm (with all data in cyrllic >> cp1251 charset on it) with iCal/AddressBook? >> >> As I figured out, the problem is in Apple's Palm iSync conduit. > > The problem could instead be with the add-on software you use to get > Cyrillic. I'm using piloc v3.6 from paragon software > > Do a "view log" and see what language your device is reporting when > you do > a sync. > > If it says "0", that means English, and we are just dutifully > listening to > that value and presuming that the character encoding is Roman. > > Look for a line like "6/27/04 2:49 PM Setting Hello Response, type is > PalmSyncTypeSlow, language is 0 (BladeLanguageEnglish)" in your Missing > Sync Log. well, in Missing Sync I've choose Window -> Sync Log. And there's NO such lines. May be because I've enabled only Memo conduit? Also I've checked 'Show more details in log' in preferences. Where can I find log file in Finder/Terminal? > Also, please answer the following: > - Are you able to sync Cyrillic with this same device using a PC? YES. > - If so, did it require modified/updated conduits, or were you able to > use > a "stock" copy of Palm Desktop for Windows? well, not sure, It was so long time ago, but as I remember there was special russian version. But I successfully sync'ed with Linux/Solaris using jpilot program, In this program I can specify encoding rules. In russian palms common to use microsoft cp1251 encoding in Unix'es -- koi8-r so obvious that there's need for recoding. > >> Also I've found that MemoPad application from Missing Sync incorrectly >> displays first letter in each line of memo. > > Is this all the time? Or just when using non-Roman text in the memo? well, I did some tests. In MS 4.0 (v15) all capital cyrillic letters was replaced with some symbols, as well as lower case cyrillic yo and ya. Btw, I'd like to translate Missing Sync to Russian, how could I do it properly? Best regards, -- Eugene Bobin From brian_hall at markspace.com Fri Sep 3 00:13:01 2004 From: brian_hall at markspace.com (Brian Hall) Date: Thu Sep 2 14:18:52 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] cyrillic support In-Reply-To: <26E92062-FBE1-11D8-BA00-000A95C465FE@Bobin.ru> References: <49615202-FB31-11D8-9E1C-000A95C465FE@Bobin.ru> <26E92062-FBE1-11D8-BA00-000A95C465FE@Bobin.ru> Message-ID: >well, in Missing Sync I've choose Window -> Sync Log. And there's NO >such lines. >May be because I've enabled only Memo conduit? Also I've checked 'Show >more details in log' in preferences. > >Where can I find log file in Finder/Terminal? One of our engineers tested out the package that adds Cyrillic. When you do a hotsync, the device reports that it is English. The developer of that package needs to add an option to also patch the OS such that during a hotsync the correct language code for Cyrillic is returned. Then Missing Sync would detect that and it would work properly. The Missing Sync product manager will be contacting the developers of the Cyrillic, Chinese and Hebrew add-ons to request that they update their software to properly report the language when doing a hotsync. >But I successfully sync'ed with Linux/Solaris using jpilot program, In >this program >I can specify encoding rules. In russian palms common to use microsoft >cp1251 encoding >in Unix'es -- koi8-r so obvious that there's need for recoding. This is why it worked - you were able to over-ride the default language setting. We do not provide such a setting (nor do we intend to - see above - we believe if someone patches the OS to change it to another language, they should also patch the portion that reports the language in use during hotsync). >> >>> Also I've found that MemoPad application from Missing Sync incorrectly >>> displays first letter in each line of memo. >> >> Is this all the time? Or just when using non-Roman text in the memo? >well, I did some tests. In MS 4.0 (v15) all capital cyrillic letters >was replaced with >some symbols, as well as lower case cyrillic yo and ya. Correct - you won't be able to sync Cyrillic with your setup. >Btw, I'd like to translate Missing Sync to Russian, how could I do it >properly? To make your own un-official translation, I think you'd just open the NIB file with Interface Builder. This is one of those things where if you have to ask, you probably shouldn't be messing with it ;-) Brian -- _____________________________________________________________________ Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 654 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 Los Gatos, CA 95030-4360 From rmaehl at bigpond.net.au Fri Sep 3 08:22:50 2004 From: rmaehl at bigpond.net.au (Russ Maehl) Date: Thu Sep 2 14:22:56 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Itunes and MS In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi, Itunes prevents any kind of sync to occur with my Treo 600. When I start the hotsync I get a message back saying that the Treo could not communicate with the computer. The same result when using 'Internet Sharing'. Once itunes has been quit all is well again. Anyone else get this? Thanks Russ From kfreeman at markspace.com Thu Sep 2 18:12:40 2004 From: kfreeman at markspace.com (Ken Freeman) Date: Thu Sep 2 17:12:46 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Itunes and MS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I can sync just fine with iTunes open (playing a song or not). Do you have the Audible Palm OS plugin installed or any other iTunes plugins installed? If you have not already done so, please use the form at http://www.markspace.com/support/emailsupport_mspalm.html to report this issue to Mark/Space Support. Be sure to include exact steps to duplicate and all the related application version information. Also, include the Missingsynclog.txt file. To get this file, hold down the command-option-shift-d keys while in Missing Sync. A dialog will appear where you can enable logging. Check the box, try to sync, then look for the missingsynclog.txt file in the ~/Library/Logs folder. Send that file to support@markskpace.com. You should turn logging off afterwards. Ken On Sep 2, 2004, at 2:22 PM, Russ Maehl wrote: > Hi, > > Itunes prevents any kind of sync to occur with my Treo 600. When I > start > the hotsync I get a message back saying that the Treo could not > communicate > with the computer. The same result when using 'Internet Sharing'. > Once > itunes has been quit all is well again. > > Anyone else get this? > > Thanks > > Russ > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > From ptyrone at dynamicangel.com Thu Sep 2 19:01:47 2004 From: ptyrone at dynamicangel.com (P Tyrone Smith) Date: Thu Sep 2 18:01:50 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Samsung i500 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'm getting ready to finally upgrade to OS X after my hard drive crashed and burned. I have a G4, 256 RAM Will have OS X.3.5 (the latest) And I have a Samsung Palm/Phone i500 that I'd like to sync with either Entourage or iCal. Is Missing Sync appropriate software for me to buy and why? Thanks P Tyrone Smith From rmaehl at bigpond.net.au Fri Sep 3 12:25:28 2004 From: rmaehl at bigpond.net.au (Russ Maehl) Date: Thu Sep 2 18:25:34 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Itunes and MS In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Ken, I am using Audible....is this a known problem? Thanks, Russ On 3/9/04 10:12 AM, "Ken Freeman" wrote: > I can sync just fine with iTunes open (playing a song or not). > > Do you have the Audible Palm OS plugin installed or any other iTunes > plugins installed? > > If you have not already done so, please use the form at > http://www.markspace.com/support/emailsupport_mspalm.html to report > this issue to Mark/Space Support. Be sure to include exact steps to > duplicate and all the related application version information. > > Also, include the Missingsynclog.txt file. To get this file, hold down > the command-option-shift-d keys while in Missing Sync. A dialog will > appear where you can enable logging. Check the box, try to sync, then > look for the missingsynclog.txt file in the ~/Library/Logs folder. Send > that file to support@markskpace.com. You should turn logging off > afterwards. > > Ken > > On Sep 2, 2004, at 2:22 PM, Russ Maehl wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Itunes prevents any kind of sync to occur with my Treo 600. When I >> start >> the hotsync I get a message back saying that the Treo could not >> communicate >> with the computer. The same result when using 'Internet Sharing'. >> Once >> itunes has been quit all is well again. >> >> Anyone else get this? >> >> Thanks >> >> Russ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can >> be found at: >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk >> > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk From sgruby at markspace.com Thu Sep 2 19:47:45 2004 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Thu Sep 2 18:47:51 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Itunes and MS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <407308A4-FD4B-11D8-ADFF-000D932F4F94@markspace.com> On Sep 2, 2004, at 6:25 PM, Russ Maehl wrote: > Ken, > > I am using Audible....is this a known problem? > Ken hit the nail on the head. If you use Audible's iTunes plugin, it opens a USB connection to your device in order to transfer audio. Unfortunately I am not aware of anyway to turn this off other than to remove Audible's plugin. You should report this issue to Audible as you'll see the same behavior with the old HotSync Manager. Actually the plugin disabled (quit) HotSync Manager's Transport Monitor and then re-enabled it when iTunes quit without telling the user. In addition, with the plugin enabled, our desktop mounting component may not work. -- Scott Gruby Lead Engineer, Missing Sync for Palm OS Mark/Space, Inc. Please contact support@markspace.com for assistance with Mark/Space products. From rmaehl at bigpond.net.au Fri Sep 3 12:54:04 2004 From: rmaehl at bigpond.net.au (Russ Maehl) Date: Thu Sep 2 18:54:11 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Itunes and MS In-Reply-To: <407308A4-FD4B-11D8-ADFF-000D932F4F94@markspace.com> Message-ID: Scott, Thanks for the info. Removed the plug-in and all is well again. Will do as you suggested and contact Audible. Thanks, Russ On 3/9/04 11:47 AM, "Scott Gruby" wrote: > > On Sep 2, 2004, at 6:25 PM, Russ Maehl wrote: > >> Ken, >> >> I am using Audible....is this a known problem? >> > > Ken hit the nail on the head. If you use Audible's iTunes plugin, it > opens a USB connection to your device in order to transfer audio. > Unfortunately I am not aware of anyway to turn this off other than to > remove Audible's plugin. You should report this issue to Audible as > you'll see the same behavior with the old HotSync Manager. Actually the > plugin disabled (quit) HotSync Manager's Transport Monitor and then > re-enabled it when iTunes quit without telling the user. In addition, > with the plugin enabled, our desktop mounting component may not work. > > > -- > Scott Gruby > Lead Engineer, Missing Sync for Palm OS > Mark/Space, Inc. > > > Please contact support@markspace.com for assistance with Mark/Space > products. > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk From matt at omega.org Thu Sep 2 22:21:20 2004 From: matt at omega.org (Matthew Johnson) Date: Thu Sep 2 19:21:23 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] SONY PEG-TJ25 and OS X 10.3.5 and Internet Sharing In-Reply-To: References: <49615202-FB31-11D8-9E1C-000A95C465FE@Bobin.ru> <26E92062-FBE1-11D8-BA00-000A95C465FE@Bobin.ru> Message-ID: I would like to enable Internet Sharing between my Clie' TJ25 and my MAC. Synchronization works fine; Do Nothing works fine. :-) Do I have to setup the prefs->Network-Service panel on the palm? What should username and pw be? As noted here[http://www.markspace.com/support/issue_clie_10.3.5.html], my OS X does system fault when I try to mount using 'Data Import'. Does this issue affect Internet Sharing? Also, I don't know if this is related, but when I load MissingSync[http://ch.omega.org/missingsync.jpg] on the palm I get: "Please use DataImport or MS Inport to mount cards with Sony handhelds. However, please do not remove this application from your handheld for the proper operation of the Missing Sync." as seen here[http://ch.omega.org/missingsync-incompatable.jpg]. This seems to mean I can't start the 'Internet Sharing Wizard' (or whatever it is called) on the palm. Any Ideas? Do I have to roll back to 10.3.4? Did I miss something in the manual? -Matt ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- Matthew Johnson MRJ Solutions, Inc "Your PREPAID value center" +1 (612) 435 2250 matthew_johnson@mrjsolutions.com From sgruby at markspace.com Thu Sep 2 21:24:12 2004 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Thu Sep 2 20:24:16 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] SONY PEG-TJ25 and OS X 10.3.5 and Internet Sharing In-Reply-To: References: <49615202-FB31-11D8-9E1C-000A95C465FE@Bobin.ru> <26E92062-FBE1-11D8-BA00-000A95C465FE@Bobin.ru> Message-ID: On Sep 2, 2004, at 7:21 PM, Matthew Johnson wrote: > > I would like to enable Internet Sharing between my Clie' TJ25 and my > MAC. > > Synchronization works fine; Do Nothing works fine. :-) > Do I have to setup the prefs->Network-Service panel on the palm? What > should username and pw be? > > As noted > here[http://www.markspace.com/support/issue_clie_10.3.5.html], my OS X > does system fault when I try to mount using 'Data Import'. Does this > issue affect Internet Sharing? > > Also, I don't know if this is related, but when I load > MissingSync[http://ch.omega.org/missingsync.jpg] on the palm I get: > > "Please use DataImport or MS Inport to mount cards with Sony > handhelds. However, please do not remove this application from your > handheld for the proper operation of the Missing Sync." > > as seen here[http://ch.omega.org/missingsync-incompatable.jpg]. > This seems to mean I can't start the 'Internet Sharing Wizard' (or > whatever it is called) on the palm. > > Any Ideas? Do I have to roll back to 10.3.4? Did I miss something in > the manual? > We have addressed this issue and it will be fixed in a future beta (probably not the next one). Basically internet sharing will not work on the CLIEs with 10.3.5 (and possibly earlier OS versions). Sorry for the inconvenience. (Note that this only affects the CLIEs.) -- Scott Gruby Lead Engineer, Missing Sync for Palm OS Mark/Space, Inc. Please contact support@markspace.com for assistance with Mark/Space products. From Eugene at Bobin.ru Fri Sep 3 11:03:11 2004 From: Eugene at Bobin.ru (Eugene Bobin) Date: Thu Sep 2 20:51:53 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Stickies Message-ID: <4137ECFF.2080604@Bobin.ru> Hello, I think that there will be useful to make MS support Stickies, i.e. syncing with Memo app on palm. Obviously there's no need to sync ALL memos with stickies database, only on "special" category. And on Stickies side maybe also have some restriction about which stickie to sync. For example, sync with palm only stickies that have "For Palm: " or "#!" ;-) string at the beginnig of stickie. What do you think? Best regards, -- Eugene Bobin From Eugene at Bobin.ru Fri Sep 3 11:05:07 2004 From: Eugene at Bobin.ru (Eugene Bobin) Date: Thu Sep 2 20:53:48 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] cyrillic support In-Reply-To: References: <49615202-FB31-11D8-9E1C-000A95C465FE@Bobin.ru> <26E92062-FBE1-11D8-BA00-000A95C465FE@Bobin.ru> Message-ID: <4137ED73.2020600@Bobin.ru> Brian Hall ?????: >>well, in Missing Sync I've choose Window -> Sync Log. And there's NO >>such lines. >>May be because I've enabled only Memo conduit? Also I've checked 'Show >>more details in log' in preferences. >> >>Where can I find log file in Finder/Terminal? > > > One of our engineers tested out the package that adds Cyrillic. When you do > a hotsync, the device reports that it is English. > > The developer of that package needs to add an option to also patch the OS > such that during a hotsync the correct language code for Cyrillic is > returned. Then Missing Sync would detect that and it would work properly. well, but PiLoc (cyrillic localisation system for palms) supports 4 cyrillic encodings on palm. Of course almost all users use ms1251 encoding. So or your developers should assume that there's always cp1251 on palm if it'll says that language is russian, or let user to do > > The Missing Sync product manager will be contacting the developers of the > Cyrillic, Chinese and Hebrew add-ons to request that they update their > software to properly report the language when doing a hotsync. It means, that someday we'll have normal native language support with palm on macs? ;-) > >>But I successfully sync'ed with Linux/Solaris using jpilot program, In >>this program >>I can specify encoding rules. In russian palms common to use microsoft >>cp1251 encoding >>in Unix'es -- koi8-r so obvious that there's need for recoding. > > > This is why it worked - you were able to over-ride the default language > setting. We do not provide such a setting (nor do we intend to - see above > - we believe if someone patches the OS to change it to another language, > they should also patch the portion that reports the language in use during > hotsync). Yeah, right. But our world not so straight and beautyful as should ;-) I think that it would be better to have option to let user choose which encoding on his/her device. This option can be hidden (as command+option+shift+D dialog), for not messing with all this charset/encoding stuff average user of missing sync. > > >>>>Also I've found that MemoPad application from Missing Sync incorrectly >>>>displays first letter in each line of memo. >>> >>>Is this all the time? Or just when using non-Roman text in the memo? >> >>well, I did some tests. In MS 4.0 (v15) all capital cyrillic letters >>was replaced with >>some symbols, as well as lower case cyrillic yo and ya. > > > Correct - you won't be able to sync Cyrillic with your setup. > > >>Btw, I'd like to translate Missing Sync to Russian, how could I do it >>properly? > > > To make your own un-official translation, I think you'd just open the NIB > file with Interface Builder. This is one of those things where if you have > to ask, you probably shouldn't be messing with it ;-) OK ;-) Best regards, -- Eugene Bobin From matt at omega.org Fri Sep 3 09:39:01 2004 From: matt at omega.org (Matthew Johnson) Date: Fri Sep 3 06:39:18 2004 Subject: RESOLVED [missing-sync-palmos-talk] SONY PEG-TJ25 and OS X 10.3.5 and Internet Sharing Message-ID: <9D7A899E-FDAE-11D8-BDEA-000A95D92230@omega.org> Hi Everyone: I got my internet sharing working. I found the instructive internet setup wizard on the desktop software side when I was originally looking on the palm side. -Matt Johnson Begin forwarded message: > [clip] > I would like to enable Internet Sharing between my Clie' TJ25 and my > MAC. > > Synchronization works fine; Do Nothing works fine. :-) > Do I have to setup the prefs->Network-Service panel on the palm? What > should username and pw be? > > [clip] From coffeegirl at nysleepdoc.com Fri Sep 3 10:53:58 2004 From: coffeegirl at nysleepdoc.com (Coffee Girl) Date: Fri Sep 3 06:54:22 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] SONY PEG-TJ25 and OS X 10.3.5 and Internet Sharing In-Reply-To: References: <49615202-FB31-11D8-9E1C-000A95C465FE@Bobin.ru> <26E92062-FBE1-11D8-BA00-000A95C465FE@Bobin.ru> Message-ID: Matthew, I have the same problem with a Clie TH 55 and OS 10.3.4. Have been going through tech support without success at this time. You can connect to the internet through WiFi if you have it. Coffee Girl >On Sep 2, 2004, at 7:21 PM, Matthew Johnson wrote: > >> >>I would like to enable Internet Sharing between my Clie' TJ25 and my MAC. >> >>Synchronization works fine; Do Nothing works fine. :-) >>Do I have to setup the prefs->Network-Service panel on the palm? >>What should username and pw be? ...snip... > >We have addressed this issue and it will be fixed in a future beta >(probably not the next one). Basically internet sharing will not >work on the CLIEs with 10.3.5 (and possibly earlier OS versions). > >Sorry for the inconvenience. (Note that this only affects the CLIEs.) > >-- >Scott Gruby From becs at shizuokanet.ne.jp Sat Sep 4 00:58:38 2004 From: becs at shizuokanet.ne.jp (Rob and Satoko at BECS) Date: Fri Sep 3 07:58:51 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Conduits for same data; memo app; exporting photos; exporting Clie Memos Message-ID: Just a few questions about the capabilities of MS4. I bought the upgrade as soon as I heard it came out, but lazy me, I didn?t install it right away. But I?m glad I didn?t considering the first two items: 1. Do you (Mark/Space) plan to ?fix? the inhibition against having active conduits for potentially the same data at the same time, for example, Entourage and the Palm Desktop conduits? I use Entourage for addresses and Palm for the rest. Couldn?t you simply give a warning? Do you know of some history of problems that led you to create this feature or did you just reason it was a good idea? Since now at least one other user and myself have actually written that it?s a problem for us, you can probably assume there are at least twenty others like us out here! 2. Does MS4?s new memo app maintain formatting (that is, tab characters) applied on the handheld? In some of my memos I make tables with tab characters. I believe Entourage translates the tabs to single spaces, so that whenever I had to restore my handheld from Entourage all those tables were destroyed, which is why I use Palm Desktop to backup memos. 3. As long as Clie memory sticks can?t be mounted on the desktop, is there any way to export photos from the Clie to the Mac? 4. Is there any way to export Clie Memo app doodles from the Clie to the Mac? (To the PC?!) Thanks for any answers, Rob -- Rob Boyles and Satoko Fukushima BECS Matsuoka 1193-22 Fuji-shi Shizuoka 416-0909 JAPAN TEL/FAX 0545-64-9650 +81-545-64-9650 becs@shizuokanet.ne.jp http://www.becs.jp From bhenry at apple.com Fri Sep 3 12:00:38 2004 From: bhenry at apple.com (Bill Henry) Date: Fri Sep 3 09:01:41 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] conduit leak Message-ID: <661FC7B8-FDC2-11D8-9EB8-000A95C8F458@apple.com> I am seeing this message over and over in the console when sinking with b2 2004-09-03 10:54:03.488 Conduit Manager[9568] *** _NSAutoreleaseNoPool(): Object 0x16e6a0 of class NSCFString autoreleased with no pool in place - just leaking From thomas.streeter at uvm.edu Fri Sep 3 13:19:50 2004 From: thomas.streeter at uvm.edu (Thomas Streeter) Date: Fri Sep 3 09:20:13 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Conduits for same data; memo app; exporting photos; exporting Clie Memos In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <14DE651A-FDC5-11D8-A7B8-000393B2A474@uvm.edu> As another Clie/MS4 user, I certainly can't answer all these questions, but I have a few comments that might help: On Sep 3, 2004, at 10:58 AM, Rob and Satoko at BECS wrote: > 3. As long as Clie memory sticks can?t be mounted on the desktop, is > there > any way to export photos from the Clie to the Mac? A usb memory stick reader works fine (multiple-format memory card readers can be had for about $20); just make sure the photos are saved to the memory stick, plug the stick in to the reader that's connected to your mac, and the stick loads as a drive on your desktop (and in many cases will automatically offer to import the photos into iphoto). I've noticed, though, that jpegs can be loaded from the mac to the clie with a sync by dropping them in the bottom "memory stick" pane of Missing-sync. For some reason, .doc files do not sync; don't know why. I haven't tried .mpg's this way. But in any case, the fact that at least some files can be synced onto the memory stick using MissingSync suggests a partial workaround. > 4. Is there any way to export Clie Memo app doodles from the Clie to > the > Mac? (To the PC?!) > I certainly wish there were. (Or even better: freenote doodles; I have a TH55.) The only way I know to get a doodle out of a clie is by taking a screenshot. (There's a program called "ritemail" that supposedly works with palm that not only allows you to email handwritten notes but also translate them using cursive handwriting recognition; anybody know anything about that?) Cheers, Tom From sgruby at markspace.com Fri Sep 3 10:20:16 2004 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Fri Sep 3 09:20:21 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] conduit leak In-Reply-To: <661FC7B8-FDC2-11D8-9EB8-000A95C8F458@apple.com> References: <661FC7B8-FDC2-11D8-9EB8-000A95C8F458@apple.com> Message-ID: <24034C4E-FDC5-11D8-ADFF-000D932F4F94@markspace.com> On Sep 3, 2004, at 9:00 AM, Bill Henry wrote: > I am seeing this message over and over in the console when sinking > with b2 > > 2004-09-03 10:54:03.488 Conduit Manager[9568] *** > _NSAutoreleaseNoPool(): Object 0x16e6a0 of class NSCFString > autoreleased with no pool in place - just leaking > If this problem still happens with b3 (when it is released), please contact support with the full logs as well as a list of conduits that you are running. -- Scott Gruby Lead Engineer, Missing Sync for Palm OS Mark/Space, Inc. Please contact support@markspace.com for assistance with Mark/Space products. From sgruby at markspace.com Fri Sep 3 10:36:26 2004 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Fri Sep 3 09:36:36 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Conduits for same data; memo app; exporting photos; exporting Clie Memos In-Reply-To: <14DE651A-FDC5-11D8-A7B8-000393B2A474@uvm.edu> References: <14DE651A-FDC5-11D8-A7B8-000393B2A474@uvm.edu> Message-ID: <6652E416-FDC7-11D8-ADFF-000D932F4F94@markspace.com> On Sep 3, 2004, at 9:19 AM, Thomas Streeter wrote: > I've noticed, though, that jpegs can be loaded from the mac to the > clie with a sync by dropping them in the bottom "memory stick" pane of > Missing-sync. For some reason, .doc files do not sync; don't know why. > I haven't tried .mpg's this way. But in any case, the fact that at > least some files can be synced onto the memory stick using MissingSync > suggests a partial workaround. > If you have Documents To Go (6 or 7) installed on your CLIE (not on the card, but in internal memory) and have synced at least once, then you should be able to drop .doc files onto the Memory Stick in Missing Sync. (The MissingSync.prc that is automatically installed on your device facilitates this by reading information off your handheld and updating the window so that you can drag/drop different file types onto it.) -- Scott Gruby Lead Engineer, Missing Sync for Palm OS Mark/Space, Inc. Please contact support@markspace.com for assistance with Mark/Space products. From brian_hall at markspace.com Fri Sep 3 19:38:35 2004 From: brian_hall at markspace.com (Brian Hall) Date: Fri Sep 3 09:39:41 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Conduits for same data; memo app; exporting photos; exporting Clie Memos In-Reply-To: <14DE651A-FDC5-11D8-A7B8-000393B2A474@uvm.edu> References: <14DE651A-FDC5-11D8-A7B8-000393B2A474@uvm.edu> Message-ID: At 12:19 PM -0400 9/3/04, Thomas Streeter wrote: >I've noticed, though, that jpegs can be loaded from the mac to the clie >with a sync by dropping them in the bottom "memory stick" pane of >Missing-sync. For some reason, .doc files do not sync; don't know why. >I haven't tried .mpg's this way. But in any case, the fact that at >least some files can be synced onto the memory stick using MissingSync >suggests a partial workaround. You can sync any file type for which an application exists on the handheld that has registered for that type (we make an exception for .JPG and .MP3). So to sync a .DOC file to memory stick, you need an app on the CLIE that knows how to open a .DOC file *AND* has registered with the OS to handle that data type (most, but notably not all, apps register the types that they handle). Brian -- _____________________________________________________________________ Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 654 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 Los Gatos, CA 95030-4360 From brian_hall at markspace.com Fri Sep 3 19:56:42 2004 From: brian_hall at markspace.com (Brian Hall) Date: Fri Sep 3 09:57:45 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Stickies In-Reply-To: <4137ECFF.2080604@Bobin.ru> References: <4137ECFF.2080604@Bobin.ru> Message-ID: At 10:03 AM +0600 9/3/04, Eugene Bobin wrote: >Hello, > >I think that there will be useful to make MS support Stickies, i.e. >syncing with Memo app on palm. > >Obviously there's no need to sync ALL memos with stickies database, only >on "special" category. And on Stickies side maybe also have some >restriction about which stickie to sync. For example, sync with palm >only stickies that have "For Palm: " or "#!" ;-) string at the beginnig >of stickie. > >What do you think? We already provide a memo pad application and matching conduit. If someone wanted to write a conduit to instead sync with stickies, we encourage them to do so. All the information needed is at http://www.markspace.com/developers.html (ie, we are not likely to do this ourselves. We have higher priority items to work on, and we already provide similar functionality via the memo app/conduit we provide). Brian -- _____________________________________________________________________ Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 654 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 Los Gatos, CA 95030-4360 From thomas.streeter at uvm.edu Fri Sep 3 16:30:22 2004 From: thomas.streeter at uvm.edu (Thomas Streeter) Date: Fri Sep 3 12:30:55 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Conduits for same data; memo app; exporting photos; exporting Clie Memos In-Reply-To: References: <14DE651A-FDC5-11D8-A7B8-000393B2A474@uvm.edu> Message-ID: Cool. Thanks for the info. Indeed, I've downloaded the free Docs-to-go that came with my th55 and now .doc files seem to synch. Picsel viewer, which somes with the Sony's, does not register with the OS, it would appear: it can read .doc and .pdf files, but these don't sync without other software. (It's an interesting but odd piece of software, anyway; I don't know if it's all that practical.) Tom On Sep 3, 2004, at 12:38 PM, Brian Hall wrote: > At 12:19 PM -0400 9/3/04, Thomas Streeter wrote: >> I've noticed, though, that jpegs can be loaded from the mac to the >> clie >> with a sync by dropping them in the bottom "memory stick" pane of >> Missing-sync. For some reason, .doc files do not sync; don't know why. >> I haven't tried .mpg's this way. But in any case, the fact that at >> least some files can be synced onto the memory stick using MissingSync >> suggests a partial workaround. > > You can sync any file type for which an application exists on the > handheld > that has registered for that type (we make an exception for .JPG and > .MP3). > So to sync a .DOC file to memory stick, you need an app on the CLIE > that > knows how to open a .DOC file *AND* has registered with the OS to > handle > that data type (most, but notably not all, apps register the types that > they handle). > > Brian > > -- > _____________________________________________________________________ > Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 > 654 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 > Los Gatos, CA 95030-4360 > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > From matt at omega.org Sat Sep 4 13:16:16 2004 From: matt at omega.org (Matthew Johnson) Date: Sat Sep 4 10:16:23 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] SONY PEG-TJ25 and OS X 10.3.5 and Internet Sharing In-Reply-To: References: <49615202-FB31-11D8-9E1C-000A95C465FE@Bobin.ru> <26E92062-FBE1-11D8-BA00-000A95C465FE@Bobin.ru> Message-ID: <1094318176.26938.203702633@webmail.messagingengine.com> I did get my PEG-TJ25 working with the Internet Sharing and 10.3.5. I was looking for the setup wizard (mentioned in the manual) on the palm side when I should have been looking in the help menu on the desktop side. I followed the wizard and everything seems to be working. I used the palm application Eudora Web to load some test web pages. EudoraWeb is part of the Eudora Internet Suite ( http://www.eudora.com/products/unsupported/internetsuite/ ). Thanks for your response. -Matt On Thu, 2 Sep 2004 20:24:12 -0700, "Scott Gruby" said: > > On Sep 2, 2004, at 7:21 PM, Matthew Johnson wrote: > > > > > I would like to enable Internet Sharing between my Clie' TJ25 and my > > MAC. > > [clip] > > We have addressed this issue and it will be fixed in a future beta > (probably not the next one). Basically internet sharing will not work > on the CLIEs with 10.3.5 (and possibly earlier OS versions). > > Sorry for the inconvenience. (Note that this only affects the CLIEs.) [clip] From tony at powertowin.com Sat Sep 4 22:30:42 2004 From: tony at powertowin.com (Tony Silveira) Date: Sat Sep 4 18:36:54 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Memo Conduit not working In-Reply-To: <1094318176.26938.203702633@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <49615202-FB31-11D8-9E1C-000A95C465FE@Bobin.ru> <26E92062-FBE1-11D8-BA00-000A95C465FE@Bobin.ru> <1094318176.26938.203702633@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <33D4FC4C-FEDB-11D8-8861-003065F9E2C6@powertowin.com> This is my first question to the group. My Memo Conduit stooped working The Memo application is blank and doesn't synchronize. I re-installed Missing Sync but the result is still the same. I verified my Conduits folder and it's synchronizing to the MemoPadConduit.plugin I also tried to substitute the Conduit by the Palm Conduit and then by the Missing Sync plugin and nothing seams to work. Is there a fix to this bug? Thank you -- Tony Silveira Canada -- Tony Silveira tony@carismachurch.com http://www.carismachurch.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Sent from a Unix-OSX platform From patra344 at yahoo.com Sat Sep 4 20:43:08 2004 From: patra344 at yahoo.com (Patra Klich) Date: Sat Sep 4 19:43:09 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Newbie question! (MS and Sony UX50) Message-ID: <20040905024308.20454.qmail@web50908.mail.yahoo.com> Hi! I just got my first MAC and 2nd PDA, the UX50. I don't really understand what the problem is between the software and the PDA, what exactly is: "the desktop mounting feature (via Data Import or MSImport on the CLIÉ)" and why doesn't it work? Will I be able to Sync Entourage, the calendar and address book? Also, can I use an instant messaging service, like AIM on my PDA? Thanks in advance! ----Patra :-) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From lists at eleventhvolume.com Sun Sep 5 09:31:55 2004 From: lists at eleventhvolume.com (11V) Date: Sun Sep 5 00:48:47 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Newbie question! (MS and Sony UX50) In-Reply-To: <20040905024308.20454.qmail@web50908.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I'm still relatively new, but here are my answers to your queries: > Hi! I just got my first MAC and 2nd PDA, the UX50. I > don't really understand what the problem is between > the software and the PDA, what exactly is: "the > desktop mounting feature (via Data Import or MSImport > on the CLI?)" and why doesn't it work? With Missing Sync the memory stick in your pda should appear on the desktop and allow you to add and delete files from it. Unfortunately the latest update of OS X (10.3.5) crashes as soon as you try to do this with Missing Sync - which is the only way it's possible. The developers are apparently working on this: http://www.markspace.com/support/index.php?mode=view_entry&kbid=339&kbcat=15 > Will I be able > to Sync Entourage, the calendar and address book? You can - look in the additional tools folder inside the Microsoft Office folder and you should find an installer called Handheld Sync Installer. If it's not there look on the Microsoft website. > Also, can I use an instant messaging service, like AIM > on my PDA? Thanks in advance! Sorry, don't know. All the best, Colin. From subscription at ambientshadow.com Sun Sep 5 13:08:21 2004 From: subscription at ambientshadow.com (John Schulz) Date: Sun Sep 5 10:09:00 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Some line breaks appear as a "box character" on Palm Message-ID: <3066B4C7-FF5E-11D8-902C-000A95676E56@ambientshadow.com> I've submitted this to Mark/Space through the Beta Feedback Form, but I didn't find a mention of anyone else experiencing this problem (checked the knowledge base and list archives for the past few months). Here's a heads up / request for confirmation. Palm Tungsten T (m550) Palm OS 5.0 Missing Sync 4.0.1b2 OS X 10.3.5 Problem: Certain line endings in MemoPad are not converted to Palm-compatible ones. This results in a "box character" on the Palm instead of a proper line ending; however, lines end as expected (no "box character" displayed) when viewing through MemoPad. I consider this a data-destroying bug since line ending information is lost; the resulting memo is virtually useless when viewed on the Palm, since it's a mass of text littered with "box characters". Once the "box character" has been copied to the Palm, there doesn't seem to be a way to remove it except by manually replacing it with a carriage return (either on the Palm or in MemoPad), which is very time-consuming. (Note that the "box character" never appears in MemoPad; however, if you delete line breaks in MemoPad that are actually the "box character" on the Palm, then replace them with a new line break (hit the Return key), those new line breaks display properly when synced to the Palm.) I've experienced this problem when copying from a Comment in an Excel document and text that was either entered directly into a BBEdit document or pasted into one and then copied and pasted into MemoPad. I have NOT experienced this problem with text entered directly into a TextEdit document and then pasted into MemoPad. It is also interesting to note that copying from an Excel Comment, pasting into TextPad, and then copying from TextPad and pasting into MemoPad does NOT produce the "box character" on the Palm. However, once the "box character" is part of the memo, it can't be removed by pasting into TextPad and then copying and pasting it into MemoPad; you must manually delete and reenter the line endings, as explained above. Steps to Reproduce: 1) Open BBEdit. 2) Type some text on multiple lines. (I have experimented with Mac, DOS, and Unix line breaks, all produce the "box character") 3) Copy it into a new memo in MemoPad. 4) Sync with the Palm. 5) View the memo on the Palm. Actual Results: Instead of displaying the text on multiple lines, the "box character" is there instead of a line break. Expected Results: Regardless of where text is entered or copied from, all line breaks are properly converted to work on the Palm; no "box characters" are displayed. -- John Schulz Why usability testing is essential: "The average Internet user's experience is one of failure." - Jakob Nielsen, Usability Guru From matt at omega.org Sun Sep 5 13:41:47 2004 From: matt at omega.org (Matthew Johnson) Date: Sun Sep 5 10:42:10 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Use FTP Client, INREPLY-TO: Conduits for same data; memo app; exporting photos; exporting Clie Memos In-Reply-To: <14DE651A-FDC5-11D8-A7B8-000393B2A474@uvm.edu> References: <14DE651A-FDC5-11D8-A7B8-000393B2A474@uvm.edu> Message-ID: On Sep 3, 2004, at 10:58 AM, Rob and Satoko at BECS wrote: > 4. Is there any way to export Clie Memo app doodles from the Clie to > the > Mac? (To the PC?!) I've found a way to do it using Internet Sharing and FTP. See below. On Sep 3, 2004, at 11:19 AM, Thomas Streeter wrote: > > I've noticed, though, that jpegs can be loaded from the mac to the > clie with a sync by dropping them in the bottom "memory stick" pane of > Missing-sync. For some reason, .doc files do not sync; don't know why. > I haven't tried .mpg's this way. But in any case, the fact that at > least some files can be synced onto the memory stick using MissingSync > suggests a partial workaround. > > > I certainly wish there were. (Or even better: freenote doodles; I have > a TH55.) The only way I know to get a doodle out of a clie is by > taking a screenshot. (There's a program called "ritemail" that > supposedly works with palm that not only allows you to email > handwritten notes but also translate them using cursive handwriting > recognition; anybody know anything about that?) I've found a way to copy _any_ file from the PDA to the Mac. This includes files that don't have their type registered with the OS and files that are located in either main PDA memory or the memory stick. To do it, I'm using a FTP client on the palm and the built in FTP access on Mac OS X. Here's the short version. A) Enable FTP on the MAC (on the Mac System Preferences -> Sharing -> Services Tab, check FTP Access). B) Download and install VFS-FTP for Palm - http://www.ninelocks.com/vfsftp/vfsftp.html . C) Configure Internet Sharing on the PDA; make sure "Internet Sharing" is turned on for the Mac D) On the PDA, connect to the Mac via prefs-> Network -> Connect button E) Start VFS-FTP for the Palm, and fill in the FTP info. For me the server(my mac) is 192.168.1.100, The Login Name is mattj. Include the password as well. Click 'Login' and you will see the PDA connecting and then your home directory folders. F) Click on the memory icon and pick out what you want to transfer by filling the check-marks to the left of the filename. G) Click on to FTP to transfer. (Make sure you've connected first) Your file(s) should now be in the home directory of your mac. Have fun with it! -Matthew Johnson Update: Now that I run VFS-FTP again to verify the correctness of this email, I noticed that I can copy files TO the main memory, but not FROM the main memory. Both TO and FROM work fine to the memory stick. So as long as you copy files to the memory stick first, it should work. P.S: If you like the FTP program, consider registering it with ninelocks.com to support the author and the shareware concept. It is $15. From matt at omega.org Sun Sep 5 13:49:52 2004 From: matt at omega.org (Matthew Johnson) Date: Sun Sep 5 10:50:21 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Some line breaks appear as a "box character" on Palm In-Reply-To: <3066B4C7-FF5E-11D8-902C-000A95676E56@ambientshadow.com> References: <3066B4C7-FF5E-11D8-902C-000A95676E56@ambientshadow.com> Message-ID: Confirmed, I have the same problem with a CLie PEG-TJ25, Palm OS 5.2.1, Missing Sync 4.0.0 (v15) and OS X 10.3.5 -Matt On Sep 5, 2004, at 12:08 PM, John Schulz wrote: [clip] > Palm Tungsten T (m550) > Palm OS 5.0 > Missing Sync 4.0.1b2 > OS X 10.3.5 > > Problem: > Certain line endings in MemoPad are not converted to Palm-compatible > ones. This results in a "box character" on the Palm instead of a > proper line ending; however, lines end as expected (no "box character" > displayed) when viewing through MemoPad. [clip] From thomas.streeter at uvm.edu Sun Sep 5 15:29:50 2004 From: thomas.streeter at uvm.edu (Thomas Streeter) Date: Sun Sep 5 11:30:00 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Use FTP Client, INREPLY-TO: Conduits for same data; memo app; exporting photos; exporting Clie Memos In-Reply-To: References: <14DE651A-FDC5-11D8-A7B8-000393B2A474@uvm.edu> Message-ID: <92C6BE91-FF69-11D8-8D00-000393B2A474@uvm.edu> VFS-FTP sounds like a cool program. Do you know if it requires a cable connection, or if it can also work via wifi? (What I was actually hoping for for freenote "doodles" was something that could TRANSLATE the files into jpegs or gifs or something readable by non-Sony software. But that's another matter ...) Thanks, Tom On Sep 5, 2004, at 1:41 PM, Matthew Johnson wrote: > On Sep 3, 2004, at 10:58 AM, Rob and Satoko at BECS wrote: > >> 4. Is there any way to export Clie Memo app doodles from the Clie to >> the >> Mac? (To the PC?!) > > I've found a way to do it using Internet Sharing and FTP. See below. > > On Sep 3, 2004, at 11:19 AM, Thomas Streeter wrote: >> >> I've noticed, though, that jpegs can be loaded from the mac to the >> clie with a sync by dropping them in the bottom "memory stick" pane >> of Missing-sync. For some reason, .doc files do not sync; don't know >> why. I haven't tried .mpg's this way. But in any case, the fact that >> at least some files can be synced onto the memory stick using >> MissingSync suggests a partial workaround. >> >> >> I certainly wish there were. (Or even better: freenote doodles; I >> have a TH55.) The only way I know to get a doodle out of a clie is by >> taking a screenshot. (There's a program called "ritemail" that >> supposedly works with palm that not only allows you to email >> handwritten notes but also translate them using cursive handwriting >> recognition; anybody know anything about that?) > > I've found a way to copy _any_ file from the PDA to the Mac. This > includes files that don't have their type registered with the OS and > files that are located in either main PDA memory or the memory stick. > To do it, I'm using a FTP client on the palm and the built in FTP > access on Mac OS X. > > Here's the short version. > > A) Enable FTP on the MAC (on the Mac System Preferences -> Sharing > -> Services Tab, check FTP Access). > B) Download and install VFS-FTP for Palm - > http://www.ninelocks.com/vfsftp/vfsftp.html . > C) Configure Internet Sharing on the PDA; make sure "Internet > Sharing" is turned on for the Mac > D) On the PDA, connect to the Mac via prefs-> Network -> Connect > button > E) Start VFS-FTP for the Palm, and fill in the FTP info. For me the > server(my mac) is 192.168.1.100, The Login Name is mattj. Include the > password as well. Click 'Login' and you will see the PDA connecting > and then your home directory folders. > F) Click on the memory icon and pick out what you want to transfer > by filling the check-marks to the left of the filename. > G) Click on to FTP to transfer. (Make sure you've connected first) > > Your file(s) should now be in the home directory of your mac. > > Have fun with it! > > -Matthew Johnson > > > Update: Now that I run VFS-FTP again to verify the correctness of > this email, I noticed that I can copy files > TO the main memory, but not FROM the main memory. Both TO > and FROM work fine to the memory stick. So > as long as you copy files to the memory stick first, it > should work. > > P.S: If you like the FTP program, consider registering it with > ninelocks.com to support the author and the shareware concept. It is > $15. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > From matt at omega.org Sun Sep 5 15:34:34 2004 From: matt at omega.org (Matthew Johnson) Date: Sun Sep 5 12:34:52 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Use FTP Client, INREPLY-TO: Conduits for same data; memo app; exporting photos; exporting Clie Memos In-Reply-To: <92C6BE91-FF69-11D8-8D00-000393B2A474@uvm.edu> References: <14DE651A-FDC5-11D8-A7B8-000393B2A474@uvm.edu> <92C6BE91-FF69-11D8-8D00-000393B2A474@uvm.edu> Message-ID: <9DA4D562-FF72-11D8-A7B6-000A95D92230@omega.org> Indeed. I would say knowing that the Palm implements a standard tcp/ip architecture, I would say, yes it would (as long as the wifi driver could transport tcp/ip). I can't try it myself because the TJ-25 doesn't have wifi. That reminds me, is there such a think as a memory stick wifi card? A non sony one would be ideal. Regards, -Matt On Sep 5, 2004, at 1:29 PM, Thomas Streeter wrote: > VFS-FTP sounds like a cool program. Do you know if it requires a cable > connection, or if it can also work via wifi? > > (What I was actually hoping for for freenote "doodles" was something > that could TRANSLATE the files into jpegs or gifs or something > readable by non-Sony software. But that's another matter ...) > > Thanks, > Tom > [clip] From hacker at gnu-designs.com Sun Sep 5 16:57:04 2004 From: hacker at gnu-designs.com (David A. Desrosiers) Date: Sun Sep 5 12:57:34 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Use FTP Client, INREPLY-TO: Conduits for same data; memo app; exporting photos; exporting Clie Memos In-Reply-To: <9DA4D562-FF72-11D8-A7B6-000A95D92230@omega.org> References: <14DE651A-FDC5-11D8-A7B8-000393B2A474@uvm.edu> <92C6BE91-FF69-11D8-8D00-000393B2A474@uvm.edu> <9DA4D562-FF72-11D8-A7B6-000A95D92230@omega.org> Message-ID: > That reminds me, is there such a think as a memory stick wifi card? A > non sony one would be ideal. I don't think anyone can legally make a non-Sony device with a Sony propeietary MemoryStick slot, without paying Sony in some way, and I'm sure the fees to do so, are exhorbitantly high. d. From brad at stop.mail-abuse.org Sun Sep 5 23:44:26 2004 From: brad at stop.mail-abuse.org (Brad Knowles) Date: Sun Sep 5 13:45:01 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Use FTP Client, INREPLY-TO: Conduits for same data; memo app; exporting photos; exporting Clie Memos In-Reply-To: References: <14DE651A-FDC5-11D8-A7B8-000393B2A474@uvm.edu> <92C6BE91-FF69-11D8-8D00-000393B2A474@uvm.edu> <9DA4D562-FF72-11D8-A7B6-000A95D92230@omega.org> Message-ID: At 3:57 PM -0400 2004-09-05, David A. Desrosiers wrote: >> That reminds me, is there such a think as a memory stick wifi card? A >> non sony one would be ideal. > > I don't think anyone can legally make a non-Sony device with a Sony > propeietary MemoryStick slot, without paying Sony in some way, and I'm > sure the fees to do so, are exhorbitantly high. There is a non-Sony WiFi memory stick, from Hagiwara. See . I'm planning on getting one of these myself. Of course, this means that you can't do bluetooth and wifi at the same time on a NX-70V, since there are Bluetooh sticks and WiFi sticks, but no combination units. Or, you would have to do without any external storage whatsoever, with the Sony WiFi CompactFlash-format card plus the Bluetooth memory stick. Sigh.... -- Brad Knowles, "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See for more info. From hacker at gnu-designs.com Sun Sep 5 17:52:47 2004 From: hacker at gnu-designs.com (David A. Desrosiers) Date: Sun Sep 5 13:54:08 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Use FTP Client, INREPLY-TO: Conduits for same data; memo app; exporting photos; exporting Clie Memos In-Reply-To: References: <14DE651A-FDC5-11D8-A7B8-000393B2A474@uvm.edu> <9DA4D562-FF72-11D8-A7B6-000A95D92230@omega.org> Message-ID: > Of course, this means that you can't do bluetooth and wifi at the same > time on a NX-70V, since there are Bluetooh sticks and WiFi sticks, but > no combination units. Mobilan, which was recently bought up by Intel, made/makes these. I'm not sure if they have a shipping product now, or if Intel grabbed them up fast before their technology got out, so they could embed it in their "Centrino" line of shipsets for mobile/embedded computing. d. From eduo at mac.com Mon Sep 6 01:41:42 2004 From: eduo at mac.com (Eduardo Gutierrez de Oliveira) Date: Sun Sep 5 15:41:59 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] [HELP] Problems with Panther, Clie UX50 and syncing Message-ID: Hello all. I had a problem with my Mac and had it changed by Apple, I decided to update to Panther and installed Panther, the latest Palm Desktop, iSync, iSync Palm Conduit and Missing Sync. You may be expecting this... It doesn't work. I sync and only the calendar transfers. The addresses don't move. The addressbook is empty. I need some help and I come to you..:) Is there a FAQ somewhere on what I should do or what should I install in what order to make this work? Conversely, is there a way to moved the addresses in the meantime by hand to the Palm Desktop application and use that for the time being? Please help, I had to reset my Clie and now it's pretty much useless. I have a Clie UX50, Powerbook G4 12", Bluetooth Sync, Palm Desktop 4.2.1, iSync 1.5 and iSync Palm Conduit 1.2. Please? Help? Thanks in advance to all. Eduo From matt at omega.org Sun Sep 5 22:00:01 2004 From: matt at omega.org (Matthew Johnson) Date: Sun Sep 5 19:00:07 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] [HELP] Problems with Panther, Clie UX50 and syncing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7687BEAF-FFA8-11D8-A7B6-000A95D92230@omega.org> Hello Eduardo, Nice nose straws: You have to check the conduits as 'On' in the Conduits Tab of the Missing Sync for Palm OS control window. By the way, what conduits are listed there in the 'Installed Conduits' bezel? Here is the link to the support Knowledgebase at Mark/Space. http://www.markspace.com/support/index.php?kbcat=5&quickview=1 -Matthew Johnson On Sep 5, 2004, at 5:41 PM, Eduardo Gutierrez de Oliveira wrote: > Hello all. > > I had a problem with my Mac and had it changed by Apple, I decided to > update to Panther and installed Panther, the latest Palm Desktop, > iSync, iSync Palm Conduit and Missing Sync. > > You may be expecting this... > > It doesn't work. I sync and only the calendar transfers. The addresses > don't move. The addressbook is empty. > > I need some help and I come to you..:) > > Is there a FAQ somewhere on what I should do or what should I install > in what order to make this work? > > Conversely, is there a way to moved the addresses in the meantime by > hand to the Palm Desktop application and use that for the time being? > > Please help, I had to reset my Clie and now it's pretty much useless. > > I have a Clie UX50, Powerbook G4 12", Bluetooth Sync, Palm Desktop > 4.2.1, iSync 1.5 and iSync Palm Conduit 1.2. > > Please? Help? > > Thanks in advance to all. > > Eduo > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk From sgruby at markspace.com Mon Sep 6 11:20:05 2004 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Mon Sep 6 10:20:25 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Some line breaks appear as a "box character" on Palm In-Reply-To: <3066B4C7-FF5E-11D8-902C-000A95676E56@ambientshadow.com> References: <3066B4C7-FF5E-11D8-902C-000A95676E56@ambientshadow.com> Message-ID: Thank you for reporting this issue. We'll address this issue with the MemoPad conduit in an upcoming beta release. Unfortunately I'm not sure which one of the next few releases will include this fix. On Sep 5, 2004, at 10:08 AM, John Schulz wrote: > I've submitted this to Mark/Space through the Beta Feedback Form, but > I didn't find a mention of anyone else experiencing this problem > (checked the knowledge base and list archives for the past few > months). Here's a heads up / request for confirmation. > > > Palm Tungsten T (m550) > Palm OS 5.0 > Missing Sync 4.0.1b2 > OS X 10.3.5 > > Problem: > Certain line endings in MemoPad are not converted to Palm-compatible > ones. This results in a "box character" on the Palm instead of a > proper line ending; however, lines end as expected (no "box character" > displayed) when viewing through MemoPad. > -- Scott Gruby Lead Engineer, Missing Sync for Palm OS Mark/Space, Inc. Please contact support@markspace.com for assistance with Mark/Space products. From corpjester at mac.com Mon Sep 6 15:15:21 2004 From: corpjester at mac.com (Dave Morgan) Date: Mon Sep 6 11:23:33 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Daylite conduits tested yet? Message-ID: Greetings: just wondered what the testing status was for Missing Sync and Daylite. I understand you were testing the Daylite conduits for compatibility? I would love to buy Missing Sync if it worked with Daylite. thanks Dave From corpjester at mac.com Mon Sep 6 22:56:20 2004 From: corpjester at mac.com (Dave Morgan) Date: Mon Sep 6 12:56:03 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: DayLite and Vindigo Message-ID: Greetings: just wondered what the testing status was for Missing Sync and Daylite. I understand you were testing the Daylite conduits for compatibility? I would love to buy Missing Sync if it worked with Daylite. thanks Dave From jrubin at mcw.edu Mon Sep 6 21:58:41 2004 From: jrubin at mcw.edu (Jonathan M. Rubin) Date: Mon Sep 6 18:58:58 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Sync error: Conduit mgr unexpectedly quits Message-ID: I am using 4.0.1b1 that I was advised to download because of the MemoPad sync'ing problem. All of a sudden I am unable to sync--I keep getting an error dialog that says 'Sync error: Conduit manager has unexpectedly quit.' This seems to occur regardless of which conduit is enabled. Any fix for this? From ken at lasternet.com Tue Sep 7 08:08:05 2004 From: ken at lasternet.com (Ken Laster) Date: Tue Sep 7 04:10:48 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] please update Clie users Message-ID: <313D30FA-00BE-11D9-BAEB-000A957038E2@lasternet.com> Can us Clie users get an update on the Kernel panic problem in mounting memory stick as a volume with 10.3.5? Has the problem been identified? Do you have the fix working in the lab? Is that fix available in the beta? (if so, how do we get the beta, if not a projected ETA). We have really lost some important functionality in a product we paid for. It is time you accelerated getting out an upgrade to fix this problem as soon as possible. Thanks, Ken From oshaug at gmail.com Tue Sep 7 11:09:50 2004 From: oshaug at gmail.com (Bob O'Shaughnessy) Date: Tue Sep 7 07:10:50 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] please update Clie users In-Reply-To: <313D30FA-00BE-11D9-BAEB-000A957038E2@lasternet.com> References: <313D30FA-00BE-11D9-BAEB-000A957038E2@lasternet.com> Message-ID: <72fa7c60040907070974fbf7f2@mail.gmail.com> http://cliesource.com/?m=show&id=446 Doesn't sound good...... On Tue, 7 Sep 2004 07:08:05 -0400, Ken Laster wrote: > Can us Clie users get an update on the Kernel panic problem in mounting > memory stick as a volume with 10.3.5? > Has the problem been identified? > Do you have the fix working in the lab? > Is that fix available in the beta? (if so, how do we get the beta, if > not a projected ETA). > > We have really lost some important functionality in a product we paid > for. It is time you accelerated getting out an upgrade to fix this > problem as soon as possible. > > Thanks, > Ken > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > -- Bob O'Shaughnessy oshaughnessy@mac.com http://oshaughnessy.typepad.com From aric1 at hotmail.com Tue Sep 7 13:38:08 2004 From: aric1 at hotmail.com (Aric Pedersen) Date: Tue Sep 7 09:38:32 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Hotsync Crashes Zodiac Message-ID: Recentlly I've noticed an odd and annoying problem that only happens on my Mac. Some quick background: I have a Mac at home with the Missing Sync (currently using the last publicly released beta). This is my primary machine. However, I also have a PC I use at work, and I sync my Zodiac there using the "off the shelf" Zodiac-enhanced Palm Desktop software. My Zodiac 2 was recently upgraded with 2 1-GB SD cards (I used to have 2-512 MB cards). Ever since then, my hotsyncs work, but MS puts a warning in the log that it can't find my old cards. This isn't the issue, everything otherwise worked fine for over a month. The issue: Recently, whenever I sync to my Mac, the sync completes just fine, but immediately afterwards, my Zodiac crashes and I receive a warning that my Z2 has become unresponsive and I need to soft reset it. After the soft reset, all is fine until the next The sync log on my Mac only notes the standard "I can't find those old SD cards" error. Syncing to my PC does not cause my Zodiac2 to crash after the hotsync. Ideas? Aric From sgruby at markspace.com Tue Sep 7 10:56:43 2004 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Tue Sep 7 09:57:42 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Hotsync Crashes Zodiac In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sep 7, 2004, at 9:38 AM, Aric Pedersen wrote: > Recentlly I've noticed an odd and annoying problem that only happens > on my Mac. > > Some quick background: > > I have a Mac at home with the Missing Sync (currently using the last > publicly released beta). This is my primary machine. However, I also > have a PC I use at work, and I sync my Zodiac there using the "off the > shelf" Zodiac-enhanced Palm Desktop software. > > My Zodiac 2 was recently upgraded with 2 1-GB SD cards (I used to have > 2-512 MB cards). Ever since then, my hotsyncs work, but MS puts a > warning in the log that it can't find my old cards. This isn't the > issue, everything otherwise worked fine for over a month. > > The issue: > > Recently, whenever I sync to my Mac, the sync completes just fine, but > immediately afterwards, my Zodiac crashes and I receive a warning that > my Z2 has become unresponsive and I need to soft reset it. After the > soft reset, all is fine until the next The sync log on my Mac only > notes the standard "I can't find those old SD cards" error. > > Syncing to my PC does not cause my Zodiac2 to crash after the hotsync. > > Ideas? > What conduits are you using? The MAL conduit has a bug in it that will causes the handheld to crash after a sync; the author is supposed to be fixing it soon. You might try disabling conduits to see which one is causing the issue. Also, which conduit says "I can't find those old SD cards"? If it is the install conduit, look in your ~/Users/Palm/username/Files To Install/ folder and remove the cards. I suspect that it is documents to go causing this error, however. BTW, a Zodiac 2 with a 256 MB card and sometimes a 512 MB card is my primary device that I sync with a bunch of conduits. -- Scott Gruby Lead Engineer, Missing Sync for Palm OS Mark/Space, Inc. Please contact support@markspace.com for assistance with Mark/Space products. From kfreeman at markspace.com Tue Sep 7 11:06:27 2004 From: kfreeman at markspace.com (Ken Freeman) Date: Tue Sep 7 10:06:30 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Memo Conduit not working In-Reply-To: <33D4FC4C-FEDB-11D8-8861-003065F9E2C6@powertowin.com> References: <49615202-FB31-11D8-9E1C-000A95C465FE@Bobin.ru> <26E92062-FBE1-11D8-BA00-000A95C465FE@Bobin.ru> <1094318176.26938.203702633@webmail.messagingengine.com> <33D4FC4C-FEDB-11D8-8861-003065F9E2C6@powertowin.com> Message-ID: <4139964C-00F0-11D9-8FD1-000A9570181E@markspace.com> Check the conduit settings to make sure the conduit is set to synchronize (double-click on the conduit name from the Conduit list in the Missing Sync). Also, it sounds like you are using the correct conduit, but make sure that you do have the correct Memo conduit. There are a few available and it can be confusing. The following knowledgebase article helps explain the typical choices. http://www.markspace.com/support/index.php? mode=view_entry&kbid=331&kbcat=15 Also, look in the /Library/Application Support/Palm HotSync/Conduits folder to make sure that you only have one Memo conduit in this folder. Ken On Sep 4, 2004, at 6:30 PM, Tony Silveira wrote: > This is my first question to the group. > My Memo Conduit stooped working The Memo application is blank and > doesn't synchronize. I re-installed Missing Sync but the result is > still the same. I verified my Conduits folder and it's synchronizing > to the MemoPadConduit.plugin > I also tried to substitute the Conduit by the Palm Conduit and then by > the Missing Sync plugin and nothing seams to work. > Is there a fix to this bug? > > Thank you > -- > Tony Silveira > Canada > > > -- > Tony Silveira > tony@carismachurch.com > http://www.carismachurch.com > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Sent from a Unix-OSX platform > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > From wburtis at gmail.com Tue Sep 7 14:47:47 2004 From: wburtis at gmail.com (William Burtis) Date: Tue Sep 7 11:47:51 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Agendus Message-ID: <56073b670409071147402096e0@mail.gmail.com> I have a mac and a palm tungsten e. If I decide to put Agendus on the palm, will this sync with Ical and Address book? Or am I stuck with the usual PIM? Any suggestions? What about a good email program to work with imap and pop and apple mail? Thanks, new to the list. From eduo at mac.com Tue Sep 7 21:48:38 2004 From: eduo at mac.com (Eduardo Gutierrez de Oliveira) Date: Tue Sep 7 11:48:48 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] please update Clie users In-Reply-To: <72fa7c60040907070974fbf7f2@mail.gmail.com> References: <313D30FA-00BE-11D9-BAEB-000A957038E2@lasternet.com> <72fa7c60040907070974fbf7f2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <87ED6C8B-00FE-11D9-809A-000A95CCDF82@mac.com> On Sep 7, 2004, at 4:09 PM, Bob O'Shaughnessy wrote: > On Tue, 7 Sep 2004 07:08:05 -0400, Ken Laster > wrote: >> Can us Clie users get an update on the Kernel panic problem in >> mounting >> memory stick as a volume with 10.3.5? >> Has the problem been identified? >> Do you have the fix working in the lab? >> Is that fix available in the beta? (if so, how do we get the beta, if >> not a projected ETA). >> >> We have really lost some important functionality in a product we paid >> for. It is time you accelerated getting out an upgrade to fix this >> problem as soon as possible. > http://cliesource.com/?m=show&id=446 > Doesn't sound good...... I don't think the reason we should get an upgrade addressing the kernel panic is because we paid for a product. Markspace decided they would terminate the Clie project and that's understandable and respectable. It's their choice. I think it should be done on general principle, tho'. I bought my Missing Sync mere months before Panther came out. I think Markspace should do like Apple did with OS9. Make the last version stable enough for the users to get at least two or three years of use for it without upgrades (by which time users should probably look somewhere else for new solutions). This, I insist, is something that should be done on principle and out of respect, not out of duty. While on topic and being offtopic at the same time: I have a Sony Clie UX50 and I had to just re-install everything in my mac. I can't make it sync with the mac but there don't seem to be problems. iSync reports it couldn't sync (doesn't say what, but I'm guessing it means the Clie) and whereas the calendars are sync'd correctly the addresses aren't. I'm using Agendus but doubt that has anything to do with it. Can anyone here provide a FAQ or HOWTO on how should Palm Sync installations be made in Panther.5? I would really appreciate it. If manual uninstall is needed I can deal with that, if instructions are hinted at and I don't mind completely erasing my addressbook and my Clie if that's needed as well. Thanks in advance. And thanks to Markspace for reading this, if they do, as well. Eduo From chrisridd at mac.com Tue Sep 7 21:06:34 2004 From: chrisridd at mac.com (Chris Ridd) Date: Tue Sep 7 12:06:47 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Agendus In-Reply-To: <56073b670409071147402096e0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 7/9/04 7:47 pm, William Burtis wrote: > I have a mac and a palm tungsten e. If I decide to put Agendus on the > palm, will this sync with Ical and Address book? Or am I stuck with > the usual PIM? Any suggestions? What about a good email program to Agendus uses the standard Palm address, datebook and todo databases, so anything that syncs these databases to your Mac will work with Agendus. So you should be OK. Personally I sync Agendus with Entourage, and it works fine. > work with imap and pop and apple mail? Thanks, new to the list. Try installing VersaMail from the CD that came free with your Palm. It works with IMAP and POP, and you just need to use MissingSync in Internet Sharing mode. I'd recommend trying VersaMail first before deciding to buy any other Palm mail program, just because accessing mail on a Palm is a somewhat curious and possibly frustrating experience. I get too much mail for it to really be practical. Cheers, Chris From sgruby at markspace.com Tue Sep 7 13:18:03 2004 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Tue Sep 7 12:19:45 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Agendus In-Reply-To: <56073b670409071147402096e0@mail.gmail.com> References: <56073b670409071147402096e0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Sep 7, 2004, at 11:47 AM, William Burtis wrote: > I have a mac and a palm tungsten e. If I decide to put Agendus on the > palm, will this sync with Ical and Address book? Or am I stuck with > the usual PIM? Any suggestions? What about a good email program to > work with imap and pop and apple mail? Thanks, new to the list. > Agendus syncs fine with iCal and Address Book with the exception that the categories don't work well between Address Book and the Palm categories. This isn't a limitation/bug of Agendus, but is a limitation of the iSync Palm Conduit. I use Agendus all the time on Zodiac and it syncs fine. As for email, an excellent POP3 email client that has a third party conduit is Mark/Space Mail. While it doesn't do IMAP, we believe it is one of the most full featured and easy to use mail clients available on the Palm. In addition, it adheres to the Palm OS user interface guidelines so most users can use it without ever picking up the manual. It is the only Palm OS mail client, as far as we know, that adheres to the guidelines. -- Scott Gruby Lead Engineer, Missing Sync for Palm OS Mark/Space, Inc. Please contact support@markspace.com for assistance with Mark/Space products. From eduo at mac.com Tue Sep 7 22:22:39 2004 From: eduo at mac.com (Eduardo Gutierrez de Oliveira) Date: Tue Sep 7 12:22:51 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Quick question on importing. Message-ID: <484A5D36-0103-11D9-809A-000A95CCDF82@mac.com> Hello Is there a way for me to send addresses to the palm without going through the sync process? It's broken right now but Bluetooth works fine. If I know I can drop a 110 addresses VCF on it I would be as happy as I can possibly be right now. Eduo From sgruby at markspace.com Tue Sep 7 13:45:16 2004 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Tue Sep 7 12:46:25 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] please update Clie users In-Reply-To: <313D30FA-00BE-11D9-BAEB-000A957038E2@lasternet.com> References: <313D30FA-00BE-11D9-BAEB-000A957038E2@lasternet.com> Message-ID: <70F6DEE4-0106-11D9-B142-000D932F4F94@markspace.com> On Sep 7, 2004, at 4:08 AM, Ken Laster wrote: > Can us Clie users get an update on the Kernel panic problem in > mounting memory stick as a volume with 10.3.5? > Has the problem been identified? > Do you have the fix working in the lab? > Is that fix available in the beta? (if so, how do we get the beta, if > not a projected ETA). > > We have really lost some important functionality in a product we paid > for. It is time you accelerated getting out an upgrade to fix this > problem as soon as possible. > > I apologize for us not giving customers an update on this issue sooner. We have been hard at work trying to solve it, but it has been quite complicated to determine what Apple changed in 10.3.5 to affect our driver. However, I believe that we have a solution (discovered earlier today) that fixes the kernel panic. It needs to undergo some internal testing before we can release a beta, but please believe me when I say that it is our top priority to get this out to customers. Thanks for your patience and understanding in this matter. -- Scott Gruby Lead Engineer, Missing Sync for Palm OS Mark/Space, Inc. Please contact support@markspace.com for assistance with Mark/Space products. From kfreeman at markspace.com Tue Sep 7 18:29:33 2004 From: kfreeman at markspace.com (Ken Freeman) Date: Tue Sep 7 17:29:38 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Daylite conduits tested yet? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <27C5934B-012E-11D9-8FD1-000A9570181E@markspace.com> Currently the DayLite conduits are still listed as "Testing." We've contacted the makers of DayLite to have them confirm the support for the DayLite conduits. I have installed the conduits and they seem to work. However, the DayLite preferences mention marking notes as "Sync Notes" in DayLite to make them eligible for synchronization and I can't see how to mark them in DayLilte? I'm hoping we hear back from DayLite with an official review of their conduits with the Missing Sync and then we can list DayLite as supported. Ken On Sep 6, 2004, at 11:15 AM, Dave Morgan wrote: > Greetings: just wondered what the testing status was for Missing Sync > and Daylite. I understand you were testing the Daylite conduits for > compatibility? I would love to buy Missing Sync if it worked with > Daylite. > > thanks > Dave > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > From tony at powertowin.com Tue Sep 7 23:41:10 2004 From: tony at powertowin.com (Tony Silveira) Date: Tue Sep 7 21:18:54 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Memo Conduit not working In-Reply-To: <4139964C-00F0-11D9-8FD1-000A9570181E@markspace.com> Message-ID: I did everything I can to have the memo conduit working, the problem is the application itself. I cannot create a new item and after removing and re-installing the Beta version it stays the same. I asked support to the developer and I'm still waiting for an answer. I would like to know how can I Remove Missing Sync completely from the system and then re-install it again. I used the uninstall script but after I reinstall it doesn't ask for serial number and the conduit preferences are exactly as I left them before removing the application. -- Tony Silveira -- -- Tony Silveira tony@powertowin.com > From: Ken Freeman > Reply-To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Palm OS\) Discussion > List" > Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2004 10:06:27 -0700 > To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Palm OS\) Discussion > List" > Subject: Re: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Memo Conduit not working > > Check the conduit settings to make sure the conduit is set to > synchronize (double-click on the conduit name from the Conduit list in > the Missing Sync). Also, it sounds like you are using the correct > conduit, but make sure that you do have the correct Memo conduit. There > are a few available and it can be confusing. The following > knowledgebase article helps explain the typical choices. > > http://www.markspace.com/support/index.php? > mode=view_entry&kbid=331&kbcat=15 > > Also, look in the /Library/Application Support/Palm HotSync/Conduits > folder to make sure that you only have one Memo conduit in this folder. > > Ken > > On Sep 4, 2004, at 6:30 PM, Tony Silveira wrote: > >> This is my first question to the group. >> My Memo Conduit stooped working The Memo application is blank and >> doesn't synchronize. I re-installed Missing Sync but the result is >> still the same. I verified my Conduits folder and it's synchronizing >> to the MemoPadConduit.plugin >> I also tried to substitute the Conduit by the Palm Conduit and then by >> the Missing Sync plugin and nothing seams to work. >> Is there a fix to this bug? >> >> Thank you >> -- >> Tony Silveira >> Canada >> >> >> -- >> Tony Silveira >> tony@carismachurch.com >> http://www.carismachurch.com >> >> --- >> Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >> Sent from a Unix-OSX platform >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can >> be found at: >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk >> > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > > From anthony-oconnell at swsa.com.au Wed Sep 8 15:28:21 2004 From: anthony-oconnell at swsa.com.au (Anthony O'Connell) Date: Tue Sep 7 21:28:39 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Memo Conduit not working In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <84095644-014F-11D9-8DD7-000393D58796@swsa.com.au> I have the same problem. The Memo Conduit is in place in the Application Support directory but the Missing Sync Memo Pad is not updated. The old Memo from Palm Desktop is still sync'd instead. I can't seem to figure out how to force Missing Sync to use the Memo Pad application instead of the Palm Desktop one. Also, I've had unexpected quits by Missing Sync when notes are added to the Memo Pad application on my Mac. My Tungsten C reports a successful synchronisation but Missing Sync unexpectedly quits at the end. Any help is appreciated. Anthony On 08/09/2004, at 12:41 PM, Tony Silveira wrote: > I did everything I can to have the memo conduit working, the problem > is the > application itself. I cannot create a new item and after removing and > re-installing the Beta version it stays the same. I asked support to > the > developer and I'm still waiting for an answer. > I would like to know how can I Remove Missing Sync completely from the > system and then re-install it again. I used the uninstall script but > after I > reinstall it doesn't ask for serial number and the conduit preferences > are > exactly as I left them before removing the application. > -- > Tony Silveira > -- > > -- > Tony Silveira > tony@powertowin.com > > >> From: Ken Freeman >> Reply-To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Palm OS\) Discussion >> List" >> Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2004 10:06:27 -0700 >> To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Palm OS\) Discussion >> List" >> Subject: Re: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Memo Conduit not working >> >> Check the conduit settings to make sure the conduit is set to >> synchronize (double-click on the conduit name from the Conduit list in >> the Missing Sync). Also, it sounds like you are using the correct >> conduit, but make sure that you do have the correct Memo conduit. >> There >> are a few available and it can be confusing. The following >> knowledgebase article helps explain the typical choices. >> >> http://www.markspace.com/support/index.php? >> mode=view_entry&kbid=331&kbcat=15 >> >> Also, look in the /Library/Application Support/Palm HotSync/Conduits >> folder to make sure that you only have one Memo conduit in this >> folder. >> >> Ken >> >> On Sep 4, 2004, at 6:30 PM, Tony Silveira wrote: >> >>> This is my first question to the group. >>> My Memo Conduit stooped working The Memo application is blank and >>> doesn't synchronize. I re-installed Missing Sync but the result is >>> still the same. I verified my Conduits folder and it's synchronizing >>> to the MemoPadConduit.plugin >>> I also tried to substitute the Conduit by the Palm Conduit and then >>> by >>> the Missing Sync plugin and nothing seams to work. >>> Is there a fix to this bug? >>> >>> Thank you >>> -- >>> Tony Silveira >>> Canada >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Tony Silveira >>> tony@carismachurch.com >>> http://www.carismachurch.com >>> >>> --- >>> Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >>> Sent from a Unix-OSX platform >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >>> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >>> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can >>> be found at: >>> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can >> be found >> at: >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk From kfreeman at markspace.com Wed Sep 8 08:39:40 2004 From: kfreeman at markspace.com (Ken Freeman) Date: Wed Sep 8 07:39:46 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Memo Conduit not working In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: If after running the uninstaller you still have files named "com.markspace.missingsync.palmos.plist" and "com.markspace.MemoPad.plist" you can manually delete these. This will clear your conduit settings and require you to re-enter your registration code. You mention that you cannot create a new item in the MemoPad Macintosh application? What happens when you click the "New Memo" icon? (e.g. nothing, error message, crash?). Also, do make sure that you choose the correct handheld name from the Handheld menu. We hope to post a new 4.0.1 BETA build soon. When that is available please give it a try! Ken On Sep 7, 2004, at 7:41 PM, Tony Silveira wrote: > I did everything I can to have the memo conduit working, the problem > is the > application itself. I cannot create a new item and after removing and > re-installing the Beta version it stays the same. I asked support to > the > developer and I'm still waiting for an answer. > I would like to know how can I Remove Missing Sync completely from the > system and then re-install it again. I used the uninstall script but > after I > reinstall it doesn't ask for serial number and the conduit preferences > are > exactly as I left them before removing the application. > -- > Tony Silveira > -- > > -- > Tony Silveira > tony@powertowin.com > > >> From: Ken Freeman >> Reply-To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Palm OS\) Discussion >> List" >> Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2004 10:06:27 -0700 >> To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Palm OS\) Discussion >> List" >> Subject: Re: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Memo Conduit not working >> >> Check the conduit settings to make sure the conduit is set to >> synchronize (double-click on the conduit name from the Conduit list in >> the Missing Sync). Also, it sounds like you are using the correct >> conduit, but make sure that you do have the correct Memo conduit. >> There >> are a few available and it can be confusing. The following >> knowledgebase article helps explain the typical choices. >> >> http://www.markspace.com/support/index.php? >> mode=view_entry&kbid=331&kbcat=15 >> >> Also, look in the /Library/Application Support/Palm HotSync/Conduits >> folder to make sure that you only have one Memo conduit in this >> folder. >> >> Ken >> >> On Sep 4, 2004, at 6:30 PM, Tony Silveira wrote: >> >>> This is my first question to the group. >>> My Memo Conduit stooped working The Memo application is blank and >>> doesn't synchronize. I re-installed Missing Sync but the result is >>> still the same. I verified my Conduits folder and it's synchronizing >>> to the MemoPadConduit.plugin >>> I also tried to substitute the Conduit by the Palm Conduit and then >>> by >>> the Missing Sync plugin and nothing seams to work. >>> Is there a fix to this bug? >>> >>> Thank you >>> -- >>> Tony Silveira >>> Canada >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Tony Silveira >>> tony@carismachurch.com >>> http://www.carismachurch.com >>> >>> --- >>> Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >>> Sent from a Unix-OSX platform >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >>> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >>> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can >>> be found at: >>> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can >> be found >> at: >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > From kfreeman at markspace.com Wed Sep 8 08:47:36 2004 From: kfreeman at markspace.com (Ken Freeman) Date: Wed Sep 8 07:47:42 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Memo Conduit not working In-Reply-To: <84095644-014F-11D9-8DD7-000393D58796@swsa.com.au> References: <84095644-014F-11D9-8DD7-000393D58796@swsa.com.au> Message-ID: <064E994D-01A6-11D9-962E-000A9570181E@markspace.com> If your memos are still synchronizing with the Memo feature of the Palm Desktop, then that conduit is being used and not the conduit for the Mark/Space MemoPad application. The memo pad conduit names are confusing. Our memo conduit is called "Memo." The knowledgebase article at will help explain the available memo pad conduit options. Once you are using the Memo conduit for our MemoPad (confusing I know), make sure that in the MemoPad desktop application you have selected the correct handheld name from the Handheld menu option to ensure that you are looking at the correct list of memos. We are very close to posting a new 4.0.1 BETA build. If you continue to get unexpected quits with the latest build please send us your sync log. Ken On Sep 7, 2004, at 9:28 PM, Anthony O'Connell wrote: > I have the same problem. The Memo Conduit is in place in the > Application Support directory but the Missing Sync Memo Pad is not > updated. The old Memo from Palm Desktop is still sync'd instead. I > can't seem to figure out how to force Missing Sync to use the Memo Pad > application instead of the Palm Desktop one. Also, I've had unexpected > quits by Missing Sync when notes are added to the Memo Pad application > on my Mac. My Tungsten C reports a successful synchronisation but > Missing Sync unexpectedly quits at the end. Any help is appreciated. > > Anthony > > On 08/09/2004, at 12:41 PM, Tony Silveira wrote: > >> I did everything I can to have the memo conduit working, the problem >> is the >> application itself. I cannot create a new item and after removing and >> re-installing the Beta version it stays the same. I asked support to >> the >> developer and I'm still waiting for an answer. >> I would like to know how can I Remove Missing Sync completely from the >> system and then re-install it again. I used the uninstall script but >> after I >> reinstall it doesn't ask for serial number and the conduit >> preferences are >> exactly as I left them before removing the application. >> -- >> Tony Silveira >> -- >> >> -- >> Tony Silveira >> tony@powertowin.com >> >> >>> From: Ken Freeman >>> Reply-To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Palm OS\) Discussion >>> List" >>> Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2004 10:06:27 -0700 >>> To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Palm OS\) Discussion >>> List" >>> Subject: Re: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Memo Conduit not working >>> >>> Check the conduit settings to make sure the conduit is set to >>> synchronize (double-click on the conduit name from the Conduit list >>> in >>> the Missing Sync). Also, it sounds like you are using the correct >>> conduit, but make sure that you do have the correct Memo conduit. >>> There >>> are a few available and it can be confusing. The following >>> knowledgebase article helps explain the typical choices. >>> >>> http://www.markspace.com/support/index.php? >>> mode=view_entry&kbid=331&kbcat=15 >>> >>> Also, look in the /Library/Application Support/Palm HotSync/Conduits >>> folder to make sure that you only have one Memo conduit in this >>> folder. >>> >>> Ken >>> >>> On Sep 4, 2004, at 6:30 PM, Tony Silveira wrote: >>> >>>> This is my first question to the group. >>>> My Memo Conduit stooped working The Memo application is blank and >>>> doesn't synchronize. I re-installed Missing Sync but the result is >>>> still the same. I verified my Conduits folder and it's synchronizing >>>> to the MemoPadConduit.plugin >>>> I also tried to substitute the Conduit by the Palm Conduit and then >>>> by >>>> the Missing Sync plugin and nothing seams to work. >>>> Is there a fix to this bug? >>>> >>>> Thank you >>>> -- >>>> Tony Silveira >>>> Canada >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Tony Silveira >>>> tony@carismachurch.com >>>> http://www.carismachurch.com >>>> >>>> --- >>>> Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >>>> Sent from a Unix-OSX platform >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >>>> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >>>> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can >>>> be found at: >>>> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >>> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >>> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can >>> be found >>> at: >>> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can >> be found at: >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > From corpjester at mac.com Wed Sep 8 12:54:39 2004 From: corpjester at mac.com (Dave Morgan) Date: Wed Sep 8 08:54:48 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: Daylite & Missing Sync conduits tested yet? In-Reply-To: <200409081516.i88FGf40010385@penguin.markspace.com> Message-ID: <64208864-01AF-11D9-B381-00039310B638@mac.com> Ken: thanks for your reply. Simply, to mark a note in Daylite as a 'Sync Note' (ie:, one that will sync vs. one that won't) do the following: In Daylite, go to the Notes view: (create a new viewer window is easiest and from the Card Menu, select Notes [cmd-5]) FOR ONE NOTE: from the list view of notes, double click on the note you want to sync -near top left is a pull down menu w/2 choices: Normal note or Sync note. Select Sync note. FOR MULTIPLE NOTES: Shift-click to select multiple notes, and from the ACTIONS menu, select Bulk Edit. -check the 'Type' box, and select 'Sync note' from the now available pull down. -Click 'Apply' and you're done. Cmd-Shift-D will get rid of the bulk editor pane. It's good to know that the conduits 'work', even unofficially. Makes my day in fact! thanks Dave. On Wednesday, September 8, 2004, at 11:16 am, missing-sync-palmos-talk-request@lists.markspace.com wrote: > From: Ken Freeman > Date: Tue Sep 7, 2004 8:29:33 pm Canada/Eastern > To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Palm OS\) Discussion List" > > Subject: Re: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Daylite conduits tested yet? > Reply-To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Palm OS\) Discussion List" > > > > Currently the DayLite conduits are still listed as "Testing." We've > contacted the makers of DayLite to have them confirm the support for > the DayLite conduits. I have installed the conduits and they seem to > work. However, the DayLite preferences mention marking notes as "Sync > Notes" in DayLite to make them eligible for synchronization and I > can't see how to mark them in DayLilte? > > I'm hoping we hear back from DayLite with an official review of their > conduits with the Missing Sync and then we can list DayLite as > supported. > > Ken From tony at powertowin.com Wed Sep 8 16:36:36 2004 From: tony at powertowin.com (Tony Silveira) Date: Wed Sep 8 12:36:45 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Memo Conduit not working In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Ken, There but there are two files from Missing Sync one is called "Memo Conduit" and the other "MemoPadConduit.plugin" I tried both but none of them work. > > You mention that you cannot create a new item in the MemoPad Macintosh > application? What happens when you click the "New Memo" icon? (e.g. > nothing, error message, crash?). When I open the MemoPad Application there are two panels, on the left side is blank (no memos) and on the right side there is a cursor blinking. When I click new Memo Nothing happens. I cannot access the "Preferences" Menu (it's gray) > > Also, do make sure that you choose the correct handheld name from the > Handheld menu. I have the correct handheld (I just have one). I will try to delete Missing Sync again and reinstall the Beta -- Tony Silveira From kfreeman at markspace.com Wed Sep 8 13:52:03 2004 From: kfreeman at markspace.com (Ken Freeman) Date: Wed Sep 8 12:52:18 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Memo Conduit not working In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8DFDBA2F-01D0-11D9-9620-000A9570181E@markspace.com> On Sep 8, 2004, at 12:36 PM, Tony Silveira wrote: > Hi Ken, > There but there are two files from Missing Sync one is called "Memo > Conduit" > and the other "MemoPadConduit.plugin" I tried both but none of them > work. Actually only the "MemoPadConduit.plugin" file is from the Missing Sync. The "Memo Conduit" is the newest conduit that comes with the Palm Desktop 4.2.1 software for use with the "Memos" app on newer palmOne handhelds (like the Tungsten T3, Zire 72, etc.) and the Memos feature of the Palm Desktop software. You should move the "Memo Conduit" to the "Disabled Conduits" folder inside the Palm HotSync folder (if you don't have a Disabled Conduits folder, just make one). Make sure the "MemoPadConduit.plugin" file is in the Conduits folder, inside the Palm HotSync folder. > >> >> You mention that you cannot create a new item in the MemoPad Macintosh >> application? What happens when you click the "New Memo" icon? (e.g. >> nothing, error message, crash?). > > When I open the MemoPad Application there are two panels, on the left > side > is blank (no memos) and on the right side there is a cursor blinking. > When I > click new Memo Nothing happens. I cannot access the "Preferences" Menu > (it's > gray) The Memo app does not have any preference options. Do try the new 4.0.1 BETA build that we will post soon (hopefully today!). When you click the New Memo icon you should get a new memo with the title "new memo text" and the text selected in the right hand column. Ken > >> >> Also, do make sure that you choose the correct handheld name from the >> Handheld menu. > > I have the correct handheld (I just have one). > > I will try to delete Missing Sync again and reinstall the Beta > -- > Tony Silveira > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > From djfriarprod at yahoo.com Wed Sep 8 14:23:53 2004 From: djfriarprod at yahoo.com (Tom Craft) Date: Wed Sep 8 13:23:57 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Datebook not syncing .. adress book spotty Message-ID: <20040908202353.80454.qmail@web14821.mail.yahoo.com> I just got Missing Sync installed on my 10.3.5 machine for my Tapwave Zodiac 2 (with 1.1 update). After uninstalling and re-installing three seperate times .. I can't get it to sync fully with Palm Desktop. I got the address book to somewhat sync .. sometimes it forgets .. but for the most part it works and is two-way. But the datebook won't sync at all. I've tried setting the conduit to handheld overwrites desktop .. but nothing will go in. there are no error messages. Also .. internet sharing doesn't function ... again with no error messages. Mounting of the SD Card's does work (and beautifully I may add). Unit sync's fine to my WinXP Pro box. any ideas??? From sgruby at markspace.com Wed Sep 8 17:15:47 2004 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Wed Sep 8 16:16:09 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Missing Sync for Palm OS 4.0.1 beta 5 now available Message-ID: <045E5291-01ED-11D9-95D4-000D932F4F94@markspace.com> Mark/Space, Inc. is pleased to announce The Missing Sync for Palm OS 4.0.1 beta 5. This version is being made available to registered users for testing various fixes. Please note that since this is a beta version, it has not been fully tested. We recommend you backup your data prior to installing. If you have issues with this version, you may have to revert to the shipping version. The beta version can be downloaded from: version 4.0.1 b5 -------------- -Issue 1951 - Fixed kernel panic issues with desktop mounting and CLIEs. -Issue 1987 - iSync Palm conduit is only copied to global conduits folder if user drags it into the conduits window. Due to a bug in Apple's development of the conduit, it will not run properly in the user's conduits folder. -Issue 1989 - Fixed issue where toolbar on MemoPad wasn't being displayed. -Carriage returns are now converted to linefeeds when syncing memos. (Handheld displays carriage returns as boxes.) -In some cames, if Stuffit Expander 6 is on the machine, Stuffit archives would not get decompressed. This has been resolved. Stuffit Expander 7 or higher is required to automatically decompress Stuffit archives. version 4.0.1b4 (never released) -------------- -Issue 1958 - Addressed issues with Internet Sharing and CLIE devices -Issue 1972 - MemoPad divider now remembers its position. -Backup conduit now preserves category/attribute information for Zodiac. -Transparency is now set right on menubar app icons -Fixed potential crash when network sync stopped. -If a conduit crashes and the UI app was not running, the UI app now quits after alerting user that conduit manager has quit. -Adding/removing/editing conduit profiles now updates menu bar menu version 4.0.1 b3 (never released) -------------- -Issue 1954 - Addressed Bluetooth issues for VFS Read/Write -Fixed issue cancelling a Tapwave game install where the prc would be installed anyway. -Now handles dragging/dropping of ini files from Tapwave games onto app -Fixed issue installing some Tapwave games including Orbz -When dragging/dropping some archives onto Missing Sync, wrong readme could be displayed. The readme/install file that is at the highest level in the archive is now displayed. -m_LastSyncDate is now adjusted by the time zone offset in SyncReadUserID -Fixed issue where some conduit settings were not "sticking". -Issue 1965 - Reverted changes to how conduits run in order to support conduits such as Leonard Maltin's Movie Guide. -Fixed issue where FMSync and other conduits that called ThreadCurrentStackSpace would fail. -Issue 1969 - Fixed issue with readSingleCardInfo call that didn't properly return an error (affected ExpensePlus conduit). -If a conduit is set for a fast sync and the last computer the user synced with isn't the computer computer, we now set the sync type to slow sync. -Issue 1973 - Conduit now properly truncates category names to 15 characters -If the computer name is blank, the registration dialog will crash. This issue has been fixed. -Added ability to option click on conduit checkboxes to toggle all conduits on/off -Added status to menubar (option in preferences) -If app is located in user directory, startup item may not haved function properly -- Scott Gruby Lead Engineer, Missing Sync for Palm OS Mark/Space, Inc. Please contact support@markspace.com for assistance with Mark/Space products. From sgruby at markspace.com Wed Sep 8 17:19:09 2004 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Wed Sep 8 16:19:13 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] please update Clie users In-Reply-To: <313D30FA-00BE-11D9-BAEB-000A957038E2@lasternet.com> References: <313D30FA-00BE-11D9-BAEB-000A957038E2@lasternet.com> Message-ID: <7C89AC85-01ED-11D9-95D4-000D932F4F94@markspace.com> On Sep 7, 2004, at 4:08 AM, Ken Laster wrote: > Can us Clie users get an update on the Kernel panic problem in > mounting memory stick as a volume with 10.3.5? > Has the problem been identified? > Do you have the fix working in the lab? > Is that fix available in the beta? (if so, how do we get the beta, if > not a projected ETA). > > We have really lost some important functionality in a product we paid > for. It is time you accelerated getting out an upgrade to fix this > problem as soon as possible. > We have posted a beta of Missing Sync for Palm OS 4.0.1 which has resolved this issue. For Missing Sync for CLIE 3.0.9 customers that have not upgraded to Missing Sync for Palm OS 4.0, we will be releasing a patch in the near future to address this issue. -- Scott Gruby Lead Engineer, Missing Sync for Palm OS Mark/Space, Inc. Please contact support@markspace.com for assistance with Mark/Space products. From mail at wlinkw.com Thu Sep 9 11:25:22 2004 From: mail at wlinkw.com (W Yu) Date: Wed Sep 8 17:25:52 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Missing Sync for Palm OS 4.0.1 beta 5 now available In-Reply-To: <045E5291-01ED-11D9-95D4-000D932F4F94@markspace.com> Message-ID: Scott Gruby at sgruby@markspace.com wrote on 09/9/04 09:15: > Mark/Space, Inc. is pleased to announce The Missing Sync for Palm OS > 4.0.1 beta 5. This version is being made available to registered users > for testing various fixes. Please note that since this is a beta > version, it has not been fully tested. We recommend you backup your > data prior to installing. If you have issues with this version, you may > have to revert to the shipping version. > > The beta version can be downloaded from: > Great progress. But is the advanced option to bypass MS's internal check for duplicate conduit functions in the horizon? Ie. One that permits the user to run both the Entourage as well as Now-Up-to-Date conduits simultaneously? I am aware that NUTD conduit isn't fully compatible with MS at this stage. -- From sgruby at markspace.com Wed Sep 8 18:44:33 2004 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Wed Sep 8 17:44:37 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Missing Sync for Palm OS 4.0.1 beta 5 now available In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6AF47850-01F9-11D9-95D4-000D932F4F94@markspace.com> On Sep 8, 2004, at 5:25 PM, W Yu wrote: > Scott Gruby at sgruby@markspace.com wrote on 09/9/04 09:15: > >> Mark/Space, Inc. is pleased to announce The Missing Sync for Palm OS >> 4.0.1 beta 5. This version is being made available to registered users >> for testing various fixes. Please note that since this is a beta >> version, it has not been fully tested. We recommend you backup your >> data prior to installing. If you have issues with this version, you >> may >> have to revert to the shipping version. >> >> The beta version can be downloaded from: >> > > Great progress. But is the advanced option to bypass MS's internal > check for > duplicate conduit functions in the horizon? We have discussed this feature, but have not created a user interface to turn it on. We will look at adding it for a future version. Despite what some users say, there is a strong potential for data loss, so we need to make sure that it is clear to users before turning on the feature. > Ie. One that permits the user to > run both the Entourage as well as Now-Up-to-Date conduits > simultaneously? > > I am aware that NUTD conduit isn't fully compatible with MS at this > stage. > Please check your preferences in Entourage so that when you reply to a message on the mailing list, it replies to the mailing list and not to me personally. Thanks. -- Scott Gruby Lead Engineer, Missing Sync for Palm OS Mark/Space, Inc. Please contact support@markspace.com for assistance with Mark/Space products. From mail at wlinkw.com Thu Sep 9 12:57:05 2004 From: mail at wlinkw.com (W Yu) Date: Wed Sep 8 18:57:26 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Missing Sync for Palm OS 4.0.1 beta 5 now available In-Reply-To: <6AF47850-01F9-11D9-95D4-000D932F4F94@markspace.com> Message-ID: Scott Gruby at sgruby@markspace.com wrote on 09/9/04 10:44: > We have discussed this feature, but have not created a user interface > to turn it on. We will look at adding it for a future version. Despite > what some users say, there is a strong potential for data loss, so we > need to make sure that it is clear to users before turning on the > feature. Yes, I couldn't agree more with your cautious approach. The day that feature comes out is the day I can practically migrate across to my paid up v4, and I suspect I am not the only one to benefit. Although a hack work around tip would be most welcome at this stage. ;) > Please check your preferences in Entourage so that when you reply to a > message on the mailing list, it replies to the mailing list and not to > me personally. Apology on this one. It's fixed. -- From Eugene at Bobin.ru Thu Sep 9 10:56:11 2004 From: Eugene at Bobin.ru (Eugene Bobin) Date: Wed Sep 8 20:44:24 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Missing Sync for Palm OS 4.0.1 beta 5 now available In-Reply-To: <045E5291-01ED-11D9-95D4-000D932F4F94@markspace.com> References: <045E5291-01ED-11D9-95D4-000D932F4F94@markspace.com> Message-ID: <413FD45B.9030801@Bobin.ru> Scott Gruby ?????: > Mark/Space, Inc. is pleased to announce The Missing Sync for Palm OS > 4.0.1 beta 5. This version is being made available to registered users > for testing various fixes. Please note that since this is a beta > version, it has not been fully tested. We recommend you backup your data > prior to installing. If you have issues with this version, you may have > to revert to the shipping version. > > The beta version can be downloaded from: > > > version 4.0.1 b5 > version 4.0.1b4 (never released) > version 4.0.1 b3 (never released) lots of fixes, but there's no anything about cyrillic support... Can I ever hope to sync my palm in windows cp-1251 encoding with AddressBook & iCal? In Russia there's 3 localisation systems for palms, PiLoc, PaPiRus & CyrHack. I'm not sure that all of them will correctly return that Palm uses Russian language at sync. And besides, each of these systems let user to use one of four cyrillic encodings. So I beg you, to let user decide which encoding in use on his/her Palm. Thanks in advance, -- Eugene Bobin From sgruby at markspace.com Wed Sep 8 22:33:11 2004 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Wed Sep 8 21:33:23 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Missing Sync for Palm OS 4.0.1 beta 5 now available In-Reply-To: <413FD45B.9030801@Bobin.ru> References: <045E5291-01ED-11D9-95D4-000D932F4F94@markspace.com> <413FD45B.9030801@Bobin.ru> Message-ID: <5B65D676-0219-11D9-95D4-000D932F4F94@markspace.com> On Sep 8, 2004, at 8:56 PM, Eugene Bobin wrote: > Scott Gruby ?????: >> Mark/Space, Inc. is pleased to announce The Missing Sync for Palm OS >> 4.0.1 beta 5. This version is being made available to registered >> users for testing various fixes. Please note that since this is a >> beta version, it has not been fully tested. We recommend you backup >> your data prior to installing. If you have issues with this version, >> you may have to revert to the shipping version. >> The beta version can be downloaded from: >> >> version 4.0.1 b5 >> version 4.0.1b4 (never released) >> version 4.0.1 b3 (never released) > lots of fixes, but there's no anything about cyrillic support... > > Can I ever hope to sync my palm in windows cp-1251 encoding with > AddressBook & iCal? > > In Russia there's 3 localisation systems for palms, > PiLoc, PaPiRus & CyrHack. I'm not sure that all of them will correctly > return that Palm uses Russian language at sync. > And besides, each of these systems let user to use one of four > cyrillic encodings. > So I beg you, to let user decide which encoding in use on his/her Palm. > The iCal/Address Book conduit (iSync) is out of our control. You will need to contact Apple to suggest this as an enhancement to their conduits. Even if we let users decide what encoding to use, it wouldn't affect conduits such as Address Book and iCal. We only have control over the MemoPad conduit. -- Scott Gruby Lead Engineer, Missing Sync for Palm OS Mark/Space, Inc. Please contact support@markspace.com for assistance with Mark/Space products. From Eugene at Bobin.ru Thu Sep 9 16:03:14 2004 From: Eugene at Bobin.ru (Eugene Bobin) Date: Thu Sep 9 01:51:23 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Missing Sync for Palm OS 4.0.1 beta 5 now available In-Reply-To: <5B65D676-0219-11D9-95D4-000D932F4F94@markspace.com> References: <045E5291-01ED-11D9-95D4-000D932F4F94@markspace.com> <413FD45B.9030801@Bobin.ru> <5B65D676-0219-11D9-95D4-000D932F4F94@markspace.com> Message-ID: <41401C52.4070005@Bobin.ru> Scott Gruby ?????: > > On Sep 8, 2004, at 8:56 PM, Eugene Bobin wrote: > >> Scott Gruby ?????: >> >>> Mark/Space, Inc. is pleased to announce The Missing Sync for Palm OS >>> 4.0.1 beta 5. This version is being made available to registered >>> users for testing various fixes. Please note that since this is a >>> beta version, it has not been fully tested. We recommend you backup >>> your data prior to installing. If you have issues with this version, >>> you may have to revert to the shipping version. >>> The beta version can be downloaded from: >>> >>> version 4.0.1 b5 >>> version 4.0.1b4 (never released) >>> version 4.0.1 b3 (never released) >> >> lots of fixes, but there's no anything about cyrillic support... >> >> Can I ever hope to sync my palm in windows cp-1251 encoding with >> AddressBook & iCal? >> >> In Russia there's 3 localisation systems for palms, >> PiLoc, PaPiRus & CyrHack. I'm not sure that all of them will correctly >> return that Palm uses Russian language at sync. >> And besides, each of these systems let user to use one of four >> cyrillic encodings. >> So I beg you, to let user decide which encoding in use on his/her Palm. >> > > The iCal/Address Book conduit (iSync) is out of our control. You will > need to contact Apple to suggest this as an enhancement to their > conduits. Even if we let users decide what encoding to use, it wouldn't > affect conduits such as Address Book and iCal. We only have control over > the MemoPad conduit. well, as I understand there's 3 ways for it: 1. Contact Apple for fixes of iSync Conduit. 2. Make Missing Sync's iSync conduit, as you did for pocket pc devices. 3. Make hack in hotsync manager, which will smart recode byte stream between iSync conduit and palm device (reading/writing addresses,todos and datebook databases) I think that second way is the right way, since when new cobalt devices will be available I don't think that Apple will release new iSync conduit in reasonable time. Also, there's still need for cyrillic in Memo conduit anyway. Best regards, -- Eugene Bobin From helge at kraak.info Thu Sep 9 15:19:26 2004 From: helge at kraak.info (Helge Kraak) Date: Thu Sep 9 05:20:24 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Feature Request Palmsync In-Reply-To: <200409090456.i894uN41003412@penguin.markspace.com> References: <200409090456.i894uN41003412@penguin.markspace.com> Message-ID: <7DA05214-025A-11D9-9AD9-000A95CFEBDC@kraak.info> Hello Markspace support, I've Palm synchronizing experience for five years now. What annoyed me throughout this time is the fact that the synching never worked properly over a longer period of time, neither when I used the Hotsync under Windows nor when I used it under Mac (and also isync). As consequence of this experience I always just synchronized into one direction, in my case from the Palm to the PC. Of course this takes a bit longer but it's safe and that's much more important for me than risking a failing synch once in a period of several months and having the work then to delete duplicates or to find out which entries haven't been modified correctly. So what I'm asking for, is a possibility to synchronize in one direction, so that my Mac and my Mobile always have the addresses of the Palm as I just modify them on this device. Do you think there could be chance for such a feature? I think there are a lot of people who don't need the two directions synchronization and who would prefer to have an absolute safe synch into one direction. I'm looking forward to your opinions! Best regards Helge *********************************************************************** Helge Kraak Frauenlobstr. 78a 60487 Frankfurt am Main Germany Mobil???? : 0049 (0)178 828 80 90 Telefon : 0049 (0)69 979 466 23 VoIP-Festnetz : 0049 (0)211 58 00 69 42 (auf Anfrage) VoIP : 8006942@sipgate.de (auf Anfrage) Fax???????? : 0049 (0)69 133 046 094 11 Email???? : helge@kraak.info Internet : www.helge.kraak.info ICQ : 348131950 AIM : helgekraak1 (auf Anfrage) "VoIP" (Voice over IP) steht f?r Internettelefonie. From tony at powertowin.com Thu Sep 9 09:50:54 2004 From: tony at powertowin.com (Tony Silveira) Date: Thu Sep 9 05:50:59 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Memo Conduit not working In-Reply-To: <8DFDBA2F-01D0-11D9-9620-000A9570181E@markspace.com> Message-ID: No luck with the new Beta...my Memo Pad Application doesn't work on my laptop. I installed Missing Sync at the Office in my iMac 17" and it works there...I will still have to open Palm Desktop to access my memos or maybe I will migrate to Entourage. -- Tony Silveira tony@powertowin.com From tony at powertowin.com Thu Sep 9 10:10:08 2004 From: tony at powertowin.com (Tony Silveira) Date: Thu Sep 9 06:10:11 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Feature Request Palmsync In-Reply-To: <7DA05214-025A-11D9-9AD9-000A95CFEBDC@kraak.info> Message-ID: Here's my 50c about this. That's the problem with the Mac conduit...you cannot change the direction of the sync. You can do that both with the Palm and the Entourage Conduits but not with the Mac iSync (Unless you delete the Device and you will be prompted with a Menu that will allow you to choose the sync direction but it's annoying to do that all the time). Until now I subscribed to .Mac and that helps to backup things. This year I will probably give up of .Mac and I will have to trust in a little Palm application that saved me several times and it's called "BackupMan". It saves all your information to the SD Card and it can restore everything or just a specific database. I have BackupMan doing a daily backup and once in a while I save a specific Backup file. I hope this helps. -- Tony Silveira > From: Helge Kraak > Reply-To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Palm OS\) Discussion > List" > Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2004 14:19:26 +0200 > To: missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Feature Request Palmsync > > Hello Markspace support, > > I've Palm synchronizing experience for five years now. What annoyed me > throughout this time is the fact that the synching never worked > properly over a longer period of time, neither when I used the Hotsync > under Windows nor when I used it under Mac (and also isync). As > consequence of this experience I always just synchronized into one > direction, in my case from the Palm to the PC. Of course this takes a > bit longer but it's safe and that's much more important for me than > risking a failing synch once in a period of several months and having > the work then to delete duplicates or to find out which entries haven't > been modified correctly. So what I'm asking for, is a possibility to > synchronize