From mmurray at maths.adelaide.edu.au  Mon Nov  1 21:00:57 2004
From: mmurray at maths.adelaide.edu.au (Michael Murray)
Date: Mon Nov  1 02:31:05 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Personal Organiser and T5
In-Reply-To: <BDAB2C46.642%martin.muntenbruch@gmx.de>
References: <BDAB2C46.642%martin.muntenbruch@gmx.de>
Message-ID: <p06110401bdabc0195e03@[10.0.1.3]>

Hi

Not sure what is the culprit here but if I try and use Personal
Organiser and my T5 with M/S 4.02b3 I get some weird hangs:

For example:


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At this point it just hangs until I Cancel on the T5 and Force Quit
on the Mac.  I tried resetting the Palm Wizard stuff as Chronos
suggested for a previous problem I had:


This time the Palm thought it had lost the connection M/S pressed on
until I force quit and got:


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Any thoughts - Michael


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From henryseiden at bellsouth.net  Mon Nov  1 10:14:39 2004
From: henryseiden at bellsouth.net (Henry M. Seiden)
Date: Mon Nov  1 07:15:11 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Missing Sync First Sync
Message-ID: <C031677E-2C18-11D9-B044-000393B3C6A2@bellsouth.net>

My first synchronization to my Palm Cli? PEG-NX73V/U hung up PsysLaunch 
conduit. Does anyone have an idea what that is?

I know that that particular conduit has been on the Cli? for a long 
time and, while it may not be used for anything, always hot sync'd 
before today. Missing sync stopped cold and would not continue past 
that item. I had to force quit the app on the MAC and soft reset the 
Cli? to continue (i.e. it refused to cancel- neither the MAC nor the 
handheld). So my concern is:
1. Will Hot Sync jam again?
2. How can I find the app that doesn't appear to match the sticky file?
3. Is there a log of what actions the Missing Sync does or errors that 
happen? Hot Sync has one!  Why not (if no)?

There's been a few updates that appear to have carried over since the 
old Hot Sync Manager was replaced by Missing Sync. I'm at a loss about 
the above but generally happy with Missing Sync otherwise.

Henry
--
Last week I stated this woman was the ugliest woman
I had ever seen. I have since been visited by her sister
and now wish to withdraw that statement.
(Mark Twain)


From kfreeman at markspace.com  Mon Nov  1 09:40:07 2004
From: kfreeman at markspace.com (Ken Freeman)
Date: Mon Nov  1 09:40:11 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk]  Unable to sync with iCal &
 Address book w/iSync
In-Reply-To: <232365BE-2A75-11D9-A636-000A95D7E2F0@mac.com>
Message-ID: <BDABB4F7.2CEC%kfreeman@markspace.com>

The iSync installer has been note to mess up file permission rights that has
caused errors trying to sync with iSync. Have you tried repairing disk
permissions?

1) Launch Disk Utility and select your drive
2) Click the First Aid tab
3) Click "Repair Disk Permissions"

Ken


On 10/30/04 5:10 AM, "Douglas Meyer" <douglasmeyer1@mac.com> wrote:

> This is my final appeal for help:
> 
> In the MS log, here is what I get:
> 
> ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
> Sync starting at 10/30/04 5:56 AM on USB
> ?OK Install
> ?10/30/04 5:57 AM iSync Conduit starting
> ?10/30/04 5:57 AM User Doug's Cli? not configured for any iSync data
> classes
> ?OK iSync Conduit
> ?OK MemoPad
> ?OK Media
> ?OK Note Pad
> ?TimeCopy: host 2004/10/30 05:57:00, palm 2004/10/30 05:56:42, diff: 18s
> ?OK TimeCopy
> ?OK Voice Memo
> ?OK Install
> ?    Backed up MemoDB.pdb
> ?    Backed up Saved Preferences.prc
> ?OK Backup
> ?Sync completed successfully at 10/30/04 5:57 AM
> ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
> 
> I am at a loss as to what I can change to alter the "User Doug's Cli?
> not configured for any iSync data classes".
> 
> It seems that MS is doing what it is supposed to, and my handheld is
> talking to the computer, but none of my iSync data (Address Book &
> iCal) is syncing.
> 
> My settings in iSync:
> 
> 1. Regardless of whether I choose to merge data or erase device data,
> no data transfers
> 2. Synchronization IS turned on
> 3. I've tried it with "Force slow synchronization" both checked and
> unchecked. Nothing
> 4. Contacts: Sync ALL contacts (only option)
> 5. Calendars: Sync ALL calendars
> 
> I have no more hair left on my head to pull out.
> Any ideas are welcome...
> 
> Thnaks,
> 
> Doug.
> 
> On Oct 27, 2004, at 1:57 PM, Douglas Meyer wrote:
> 
>> Scott,
>> 
>> I want to simplify thing as much as possible. I'd like to start from
>> scratch.
>> 
>> I currently have Palm Desktop Installed which I am happy to get rid of.
>> 
>> Should I:
>> 
>> Uninstall everything (Palm Desktop, Missing Sync, and Apple's iSync
>> Palm Conduit 1.2?
>> Then, reinstall Missing Sync & Apple's iSync Palm Conduit 1.2?
>> If so in what order?
>> 
>> Or, any other suggestion you may have...
>> 
>> Many thanks to you and everyone else
>> 
>> Doug.,
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 27, 2004, at 11:38 AM, Scott Gruby wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> On Oct 27, 2004, at 10:04 AM, Trevor Harmon wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 27, 2004, at 6:57 AM, Douglas Meyer wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Do I need to have Palm Desktop installed? My understanding was that
>>>>> Missing Sync takes the place of HotSync.
>>>>> If Palm Desktop IS installed, is this a problem?
>>>> 
>>>> Missing Sync depends on the iCal and Address Book conduits provided
>>>> by Apple, which in turn depend on Palm Desktop/HotSync, if I
>>>> remember correctly. At least, I remember reading somewhere that in
>>>> order to use the conduits, you need to have Palm's stuff installed.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> This is incorrect; the iSync conduit does not require Palm Desktop or
>>> Palm HotSync Manager. You can install the iSync conduit on a system
>>> that only has Missing Sync on it. The iSync Palm Conduit installer
>>> does not check for Palm Desktop/Palm HotSync Manager; it checks for
>>> the Install Conduit which we provide, so the installer works fine
>>> with Missing Sync and syncs fine.
>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Scott Gruby
>>> Lead Engineer, Missing Sync for Palm OS
>>> Mark/Space, Inc.
>>> <http://www.markspace.com/>
>>> 
>>> Please contact support@markspace.com for assistance with Mark/Space
>>> products.
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list
>>> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com
>>> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can
>>> be found at:
>>> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk
>>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list
>> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com
>> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can
>> be found at:
>> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk
>> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list
> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com
> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found
> at:
> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk


From douglasmeyer1 at mac.com  Mon Nov  1 12:27:02 2004
From: douglasmeyer1 at mac.com (Douglas Meyer)
Date: Mon Nov  1 12:27:07 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk]  Unable to sync with iCal & Address
	book w/iSync
In-Reply-To: <BDABB4F7.2CEC%kfreeman@markspace.com>
References: <BDABB4F7.2CEC%kfreeman@markspace.com>
Message-ID: <637E8C14-2C44-11D9-8CE1-000A95D7E2F0@mac.com>

Excellent suggestion!

Unfortunately however, this did not work. Still looking for advice.

Still get:

????????????
Sync starting at 11/1/04 12:23 PM on USB
?OK Install
?11/1/04 12:23 PM iSync Conduit starting
?11/1/04 12:23 PM User Doug's Cli? not configured for any iSync data 
classes
?OK iSync Conduit
?OK Media
?OK Note Pad
?OK Voice Memo
?OK Install
?    Backed up psysLaunchDB.pdb
?    Backed up Saved Preferences.prc
?OK Backup
?Sync completed successfully at 11/1/04 12:23 PM
????????????????

Thanks,

Doug.

On Nov 1, 2004, at 9:40 AM, Ken Freeman wrote:

> The iSync installer has been note to mess up file permission rights 
> that has
> caused errors trying to sync with iSync. Have you tried repairing disk
> permissions?
>
> 1) Launch Disk Utility and select your drive
> 2) Click the First Aid tab
> 3) Click "Repair Disk Permissions"
>
> Ken
>
>
> On 10/30/04 5:10 AM, "Douglas Meyer" <douglasmeyer1@mac.com> wrote:
>
>> This is my final appeal for help:
>>
>> In the MS log, here is what I get:
>>
>> ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
>> Sync starting at 10/30/04 5:56 AM on USB
>> ?OK Install
>> ?10/30/04 5:57 AM iSync Conduit starting
>> ?10/30/04 5:57 AM User Doug's Cli? not configured for any iSync data
>> classes
>> ?OK iSync Conduit
>> ?OK MemoPad
>> ?OK Media
>> ?OK Note Pad
>> ?TimeCopy: host 2004/10/30 05:57:00, palm 2004/10/30 05:56:42, diff: 
>> 18s
>> ?OK TimeCopy
>> ?OK Voice Memo
>> ?OK Install
>> ?    Backed up MemoDB.pdb
>> ?    Backed up Saved Preferences.prc
>> ?OK Backup
>> ?Sync completed successfully at 10/30/04 5:57 AM
>> ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
>>
>> I am at a loss as to what I can change to alter the "User Doug's Cli?
>> not configured for any iSync data classes".
>>
>> It seems that MS is doing what it is supposed to, and my handheld is
>> talking to the computer, but none of my iSync data (Address Book &
>> iCal) is syncing.
>>
>> My settings in iSync:
>>
>> 1. Regardless of whether I choose to merge data or erase device data,
>> no data transfers
>> 2. Synchronization IS turned on
>> 3. I've tried it with "Force slow synchronization" both checked and
>> unchecked. Nothing
>> 4. Contacts: Sync ALL contacts (only option)
>> 5. Calendars: Sync ALL calendars
>>
>> I have no more hair left on my head to pull out.
>> Any ideas are welcome...
>>
>> Thnaks,
>>
>> Doug.
>>
>> On Oct 27, 2004, at 1:57 PM, Douglas Meyer wrote:
>>
>>> Scott,
>>>
>>> I want to simplify thing as much as possible. I'd like to start from
>>> scratch.
>>>
>>> I currently have Palm Desktop Installed which I am happy to get rid 
>>> of.
>>>
>>> Should I:
>>>
>>> Uninstall everything (Palm Desktop, Missing Sync, and Apple's iSync
>>> Palm Conduit 1.2?
>>> Then, reinstall Missing Sync & Apple's iSync Palm Conduit 1.2?
>>> If so in what order?
>>>
>>> Or, any other suggestion you may have...
>>>
>>> Many thanks to you and everyone else
>>>
>>> Doug.,
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 27, 2004, at 11:38 AM, Scott Gruby wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 27, 2004, at 10:04 AM, Trevor Harmon wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 27, 2004, at 6:57 AM, Douglas Meyer wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Do I need to have Palm Desktop installed? My understanding was 
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> Missing Sync takes the place of HotSync.
>>>>>> If Palm Desktop IS installed, is this a problem?
>>>>>
>>>>> Missing Sync depends on the iCal and Address Book conduits provided
>>>>> by Apple, which in turn depend on Palm Desktop/HotSync, if I
>>>>> remember correctly. At least, I remember reading somewhere that in
>>>>> order to use the conduits, you need to have Palm's stuff installed.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This is incorrect; the iSync conduit does not require Palm Desktop 
>>>> or
>>>> Palm HotSync Manager. You can install the iSync conduit on a system
>>>> that only has Missing Sync on it. The iSync Palm Conduit installer
>>>> does not check for Palm Desktop/Palm HotSync Manager; it checks for
>>>> the Install Conduit which we provide, so the installer works fine
>>>> with Missing Sync and syncs fine.
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Scott Gruby
>>>> Lead Engineer, Missing Sync for Palm OS
>>>> Mark/Space, Inc.
>>>> <http://www.markspace.com/>
>>>>
>>>> Please contact support@markspace.com for assistance with Mark/Space
>>>> products.
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list
>>>> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com
>>>> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can
>>>> be found at:
>>>> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk
>>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list
>>> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com
>>> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can
>>> be found at:
>>> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk
>>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list
>> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com
>> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can 
>> be found
>> at:
>> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list
> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com
> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can 
> be found at:
> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk
>


From douglasmeyer1 at mac.com  Mon Nov  1 13:23:40 2004
From: douglasmeyer1 at mac.com (Douglas Meyer)
Date: Mon Nov  1 13:23:49 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: TimeCopy (v 1.5) did not update
In-Reply-To: <BDAB2C46.642%martin.muntenbruch@gmx.de>
References: <BDAB2C46.642%martin.muntenbruch@gmx.de>
Message-ID: <4CC1E34E-2C4C-11D9-8CE1-000A95D7E2F0@mac.com>

I have Timecopy.prc installed on my handheld, but I see no conduit in 
Missing Sync.

Naturally, my Cli?'s clock is not updating.

How do I get the conduit properly installed. Why wasn't it in the first 
place?

Also, my version is Timecopy.prc v1.4 (on handheld). And I just bought 
missing sync last week.

Shouold it be v1.5?

Thanks,

Doug.

On Oct 31, 2004, at 10:56 PM, Martin Muntenbruch wrote:

> Dear Scott, thanks!
>
> I had not installed it. I saw a file called "Ti-Co" (1kb) on the Palm 
> (when
> you go to the "Delete" list) and I thought that's it. This "Ti-Co" 
> went away
> now (replaced by TimeCopy 17 Kb).
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Martin
>
>
>
>> On Oct 31, 2004, at 1:24 PM, Martin Muntenbruch wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Jonathan,
>>>
>>>> Just did a sync and my time adjusted correctly.  Is it correct on 
>>>> your
>>>> computer?
>>>
>>> Yes. That's what puzzeled me.
>>>
>>> I made an additional test where I set on purpose the Clie a minute
>>> behind
>>> the time on my Mac, then I synched.
>>>
>>> It seems to me that TimeCopy does not work for me - although it is
>>> activated
>>> in the Conduit settings.
>>>
>>> I have a Clie NZ90 and an iBook G3 (900 MHz, year 2003) with Panther.
>>> I use
>>> the latest MissingSync 4.01 (v23).
>>>
>>> The conduit is properly installed!
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Are you sure you have the TimeCopy application installed on your CLIE?
>> Without this installed on the handheld, the clock on the handheld 
>> won't
>> change.
>>
>> --
>> Scott Gruby
>> Lead Engineer, Missing Sync for Palm OS
>> Mark/Space, Inc.
>> <http://www.markspace.com/>
>>
>> Please contact support@markspace.com for assistance with Mark/Space
>> products.
>>
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>
>
> A+
> Martin
>
>
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From paul at guildford.co.nz  Tue Nov  2 10:27:24 2004
From: paul at guildford.co.nz (Paul Davis)
Date: Mon Nov  1 13:26:15 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: NOW vs Group Organizer
Message-ID: <D265EB1E-2C4C-11D9-A196-000A95DCC0C0@guildford.co.nz>

Now still has it's problems - the main one from my point of view being 
that it creates duplicates of every appointment and todo whenever you 
change timezones on your laptop or Palm so it is useless on the road.

But it's the only software I've found that will sync multiple 
categories with other desktops over the net and also to the Palm. I 
share different categories with different groups of people in both the 
calendar and contacts; and as far as I can tell iCal and Address Book 
won't do that.

And yes, the 4.02 Missing Sync does work with it; but it was fiddly. I 
had to turn all the conduits off and sync, then sync between turning 
each one back on. Now it's happy.

I've given up trying to sync media and voice memo. Just leave them off 
and use my card reader to move files.

From sgruby at markspace.com  Mon Nov  1 13:36:22 2004
From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby)
Date: Mon Nov  1 13:36:43 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: TimeCopy (v 1.5) did not update
In-Reply-To: <4CC1E34E-2C4C-11D9-8CE1-000A95D7E2F0@mac.com>
References: <BDAB2C46.642%martin.muntenbruch@gmx.de>
	<4CC1E34E-2C4C-11D9-8CE1-000A95D7E2F0@mac.com>
Message-ID: <134A3CFA-2C4E-11D9-B8BE-000D932F4F94@markspace.com>


On Nov 1, 2004, at 1:23 PM, Douglas Meyer wrote:

> I have Timecopy.prc installed on my handheld, but I see no conduit in 
> Missing Sync.
>
> Naturally, my Cli?'s clock is not updating.
>
> How do I get the conduit properly installed. Why wasn't it in the 
> first place?
>

Did you install iSync after installing Missing Sync? The iSync conduit 
improperly moves conduits that it doesn't know about into Disabled 
Conduits. Check in /Library/Application Support/Palm HotSync/Disabled 
Conduits. If it is there, moved it to the Conduits folder.


> Also, my version is Timecopy.prc v1.4 (on handheld). And I just bought 
> missing sync last week.
>
> Shouold it be v1.5?
>


TimeCopy 1.4 is the latest version of TimeCopy.


--
Scott Gruby
Lead Engineer, Missing Sync for Palm OS
Mark/Space, Inc.
<http://www.markspace.com/>

Please contact support@markspace.com for assistance with Mark/Space 
products.


From aarnold19 at cogeco.ca  Mon Nov  1 17:33:41 2004
From: aarnold19 at cogeco.ca (aarnold19@cogeco.ca)
Date: Mon Nov  1 14:34:19 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Wi-Fi PEG-TH55 and Mac OSX Panther 3.5
Message-ID: <4186b9c5.141.15c4.9813@cogeco.ca>

Have 4.01 and cannot set up a Wi-Fi link with my 17" Powerbook on OSX Panther 3.5. It just goes to error:timeout
(ox1212) whatever that means.

I have followed the Help instructions repeatedly setting up the Clie and the Powerbook.  I'm wondering if it has
anything to do with the IP address.

Any ideas?
From kfreeman at markspace.com  Mon Nov  1 15:16:35 2004
From: kfreeman at markspace.com (Ken Freeman)
Date: Mon Nov  1 15:16:38 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Error Installing Files
In-Reply-To: <BDA96704.154A0%winb99@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BDAC03D3.2D46%kfreeman@markspace.com>

Maybe there is a problem with the .prc you are trying to install, since you
are getting the same error using both HotSync Manager and Missing Sync? Are
you able to install other .prc files (e.g. Try installing the Missing
Sync.prc that comes with Missing Sync)?

Ken


On 10/30/04 12:42 PM, "Win Barker" <winb99@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I?ve had the same problem that several other posters have had. Neither
> HotSync Manager nor MS will allow me to install files to my T3. My most
> recent sync includes the following:
> 
> Sync starting at 10/30/04 3:35 PM on USB
> ??    Failed to install digi_main.prc
> ??    - Unexpected error number 16405
> ??    - Unexpected error number 16405
> ??
> ??Failed Install (0x4015)
> 
> 
> ...and...
> 
> 
> TimeCopy: db create failed: 16405
> ??Failed TimeCopy (0x0000)
> ??    Failed to install digi_main.prc
> ??    - Unexpected error number 16405
> ??    - Unexpected error number 16405
> ??
> ??Failed Install (0x4015)
> 
> 
> I am running Palm OS 5.2.1 and have 45.6 MB of free space and am running
> 10.3.5 on my iBook. I?ve tried repairing permissions and trashing the
> preferences file. Based on support from Palm, I?ve tried replacing HS
> Manager, Desktop, the entire Users directory...everything short of doing a
> hard reset on my T3. I had hoped that MS would solve my problem.
> 


From kfreeman at markspace.com  Mon Nov  1 15:27:12 2004
From: kfreeman at markspace.com (Ken Freeman)
Date: Mon Nov  1 15:27:14 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk]  Syncing with Entourage: another
 identity is open?
In-Reply-To: <BDA9EF92.13CA%jlund@jmlgraphics.com>
Message-ID: <BDAC0650.2D4B%kfreeman@markspace.com>

Are you able to open Entourage 2004 just fine?

I suggest you give Microsoft Support a call. The problem is most likely with
the Entrouage identity itself, or the Entourage 2004 conduit and they are
the most likely folks to be able to help you.

Ken


On 10/30/04 9:25 PM, "Jackie Lund" <jlund@jmlgraphics.com> wrote:

> I just installed Office 2004 and am trying to sync using Missing Sync. I've
> tried various things to get this to work, to no avail. When I try to sync, I
> get the error log:
> 
> Sync starting at 30 Oct 2004 02:42 PM on USB
> ?HotSync Failure: The Entourage identity "Main Identity" could not be
> opened because another identity is open in another Office application.
> 
> When I installed Office 2004, I ran the uninstaller from the CD which
> removed Office X as well as older versions I had installed on my OS 9
> drive, just to make sure nothing else was there. Still no good. So I
> restarted, and ran the uninstaller again, & it found what it says is an
> Entourage X preference file, which I removed. Then when I tried to
> sync, the Entourage conduit wouldn't open at all. I tired syncing
> anyway, and this message was given:
> 
> Failed Entourage Conduit (0xffffffff)
> ?Sync completed successfully at 30 Oct 2004 02:42 PM
> 
> I tried removing all syncing preferences, and then got the following
> message when I tried to sync:
> 
> Before you can synchronize with the applications on this handheld
> device, you must enable synchronization in the Entourage Conduit
> Settings dialog box. For the latest information on compatibility issues
> and solutions, visit the Office 2004 Web Site
> ?Failed Entourage Conduit (0xffffffff)
> 
> So I tried to open the conduits, and got the following:
> 
> Could not open the selected identity. Quit all open Microsoft Office
> programs and try again.
> 
> It seems there is another identity open somewhere, but I have no idea
> where it is, or that the conduit just isn't working. I tried
> reinstalling it from the CD, still no good.
> 
> I running OS 10.2.8 and am using a Tungsten E with Palm 5, Palm desktop
> 4.1 and the latest Missing Sync software. If anyone can offer any idea
> of what to do next I'd really appreciate it. I thought about switching back
> to the Hotsync that came with Palm to see if that would work, but I really
> prefer Missing Sync and would like to get this figured out.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Jackie
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From kfreeman at markspace.com  Mon Nov  1 15:38:09 2004
From: kfreeman at markspace.com (Ken Freeman)
Date: Mon Nov  1 15:38:13 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] MissingSync 4.0.1 and Tungsten T5
In-Reply-To: <115E6BD6-2B49-11D9-B56B-000A95675E84@mac.com>
Message-ID: <BDAC08E1.2D50%kfreeman@markspace.com>

The Missing Sync 4.0.1 will sync fine with the T5. We are testing an update
that will include a new version of the Missing Sync.prc to better support
the T5 and include updated iPhoto and iTunes plugins that work very well
with the new Drive Mode. So, with the update you can use either the new
Drive Mode or the Missing Sync.prc to mount the volume.

We hope to post the 4.0.2b5 update very soon at www.markspace.com/testing!

As for transferring data from one handheld to the other, the easiest thing
to do is the very first time you sync the new handheld you will be asked to
pick a handheld name. If you want the T3 data on the T5 choose the name
currently assigned to the T3. However, you should NOT sync two handhelds to
the same handheld name. So you should either enter a new name for the T5, or
perform a Hard Reset on the T3 and sync it with a new handheld name.

Ken


On 10/31/04 6:28 AM, "Francis Lo" <fkclo@mac.com> wrote:

> Hi everyone,
> 
> I've got a new Tungsten T5 today - a surprise from my wife.
> 
> I am now using a T3 with my TiBook running OS10.3.5 and have no clue
> how to do the migration.  Specifically, will MissingSync 4.0.1 works
> with a T5 ?  Anyone can shed some light ?
> 
> Since the new T5 has a drive mode, I am concern if this will interfere
> with MissingSync ability to mount the SD card.
> 
> Any help, suggestions, experience sharing would be most appreciated !
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Francis Lo
> 
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From kfreeman at markspace.com  Mon Nov  1 15:50:00 2004
From: kfreeman at markspace.com (Ken Freeman)
Date: Mon Nov  1 15:50:13 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Missing Sync First Sync
In-Reply-To: <C031677E-2C18-11D9-B044-000393B3C6A2@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <BDAC0BA8.2D58%kfreeman@markspace.com>

I don't think PsysLaunc is a conduit, but a palm database file (.pdb) and
that you may have hung during a backup of that file.

Does this still happen, or was it a one time thing?

Missing Sync does have a log. You can hit command-L or choose View Log from
the Window menu.

I'm not sure what you are asking regarding the "sticky file" below?

Ken 


On 11/1/04 7:14 AM, "Henry M. Seiden" <henryseiden@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> My first synchronization to my Palm Cli? PEG-NX73V/U hung up PsysLaunch
> conduit. Does anyone have an idea what that is?
> 
> I know that that particular conduit has been on the Cli? for a long
> time and, while it may not be used for anything, always hot sync'd
> before today. Missing sync stopped cold and would not continue past
> that item. I had to force quit the app on the MAC and soft reset the
> Cli? to continue (i.e. it refused to cancel- neither the MAC nor the
> handheld). So my concern is:
> 1. Will Hot Sync jam again?
> 2. How can I find the app that doesn't appear to match the sticky file?
> 3. Is there a log of what actions the Missing Sync does or errors that
> happen? Hot Sync has one!  Why not (if no)?
> 
> There's been a few updates that appear to have carried over since the
> old Hot Sync Manager was replaced by Missing Sync. I'm at a loss about
> the above but generally happy with Missing Sync otherwise.
> 
> Henry
> --
> Last week I stated this woman was the ugliest woman
> I had ever seen. I have since been visited by her sister
> and now wish to withdraw that statement.
> (Mark Twain)
> 
> 
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From winb99 at yahoo.com  Mon Nov  1 18:09:46 2004
From: winb99 at yahoo.com (Win Barker)
Date: Mon Nov  1 16:09:49 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Error Installing Files
In-Reply-To: <BDAC03D3.2D46%kfreeman@markspace.com>
Message-ID: <BDAC2C6A.154D7%winb99@yahoo.com>

NO prc or pdb file will install, TimeCopy and MissingSync included.

on 11/1/04 6:16 PM, Ken Freeman at kfreeman@markspace.com wrote:

> Maybe there is a problem with the .prc you are trying to install, since you
> are getting the same error using both HotSync Manager and Missing Sync? Are
> you able to install other .prc files (e.g. Try installing the Missing
> Sync.prc that comes with Missing Sync)?
> 
> Ken
> 
> 
> On 10/30/04 12:42 PM, "Win Barker" <winb99@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
>> I?ve had the same problem that several other posters have had. Neither
>> HotSync Manager nor MS will allow me to install files to my T3. My most
>> recent sync includes the following:
>> 
>> Sync starting at 10/30/04 3:35 PM on USB
>> ??    Failed to install digi_main.prc
>> ??    - Unexpected error number 16405
>> ??    - Unexpected error number 16405
>> ??
>> ??Failed Install (0x4015)
>> 
>> 
>> ...and...
>> 
>> 
>> TimeCopy: db create failed: 16405
>> ??Failed TimeCopy (0x0000)
>> ??    Failed to install digi_main.prc
>> ??    - Unexpected error number 16405
>> ??    - Unexpected error number 16405
>> ??
>> ??Failed Install (0x4015)
>> 
>> 
>> I am running Palm OS 5.2.1 and have 45.6 MB of free space and am running
>> 10.3.5 on my iBook. I?ve tried repairing permissions and trashing the
>> preferences file. Based on support from Palm, I?ve tried replacing HS
>> Manager, Desktop, the entire Users directory...everything short of doing a
>> hard reset on my T3. I had hoped that MS would solve my problem.
>> 
> 
> 
> 
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-- 
Win Barker
winb99@yahoo.com
Macintosh for Productivity, Linux for Development, Palm for Mobility and
Windows for Solitaire 


From sgruby at markspace.com  Mon Nov  1 16:38:01 2004
From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby)
Date: Mon Nov  1 16:38:22 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Error Installing Files
In-Reply-To: <BDA96704.154A0%winb99@yahoo.com>
References: <BDA96704.154A0%winb99@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <73972244-2C67-11D9-B8BE-000D932F4F94@markspace.com>


On Oct 30, 2004, at 1:42 PM, Win Barker wrote:

> I�ve had the same problem that several other posters have had. Neither
> HotSync Manager nor MS will allow me to install files to my T3. My most
> recent sync includes the following:
>
> Sync starting at 10/30/04 3:35 PM on USB
> ��    Failed to install digi_main.prc
> ��    - Unexpected error number 16405
> ��    - Unexpected error number 16405
> ��
> ��Failed Install (0x4015)
>
>
> ...and...
>
>
> TimeCopy: db create failed: 16405
> ��Failed TimeCopy (0x0000)
> ��    Failed to install digi_main.prc
> ��    - Unexpected error number 16405
> ��    - Unexpected error number 16405
> ��
> ��Failed Install (0x4015)
>
>
> I am running Palm OS 5.2.1 and have 45.6 MB of free space and am 
> running
> 10.3.5 on my iBook. I�ve tried repairing permissions and trashing the
> preferences file. Based on support from Palm, I�ve tried replacing HS
> Manager, Desktop, the entire Users directory...everything short of 
> doing a
> hard reset on my T3. I had hoped that MS would solve my problem.
>
>

Did you try soft resetting your T3? (Hit the reset button in the back.) 
As Ken pointed out, the issue doesn't appear to be a Missing Sync issue 
as it also happens with HotSync Manager. If that doesn't work, I'd 
recommend doing a no extension reset which is a soft reset while 
holding the D-pad up. It is possible that you have installed an 
application that is interfering with the installation process. The 
error message you're getting is defined as "Generic remote system error 
(returned when exact cause is unknown)" which really doesn't help.

My guess is that the issue is with the handheld and not the desktop. 
You could also try turning off all other conduits to see if that 
changes the behavior.

--
Scott Gruby
Lead Engineer, Missing Sync for Palm OS
Mark/Space, Inc.
<http://www.markspace.com/>

Please contact support@markspace.com for assistance with Mark/Space 
products.


From brappapo at earthlink.net  Mon Nov  1 16:52:23 2004
From: brappapo at earthlink.net (Bruce Rappaport)
Date: Mon Nov  1 16:52:26 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] another identity is open?
In-Reply-To: <200411012350.iA1NoASE000924@penguin.markspace.com>
Message-ID: <BDAC1A47.6353%brappapo@earthlink.net>


>> >..Syncing with Entourage: another identity is open?
> 
> I had this problem recently and it turned out that my Entourage identity did
> not have the exactly same name as my PP identity.  When I changed it, all was
> fine.  Long shot but maybe.
> 
> Bruce R


From winb99 at yahoo.com  Mon Nov  1 19:47:11 2004
From: winb99 at yahoo.com (Win Barker)
Date: Mon Nov  1 17:47:15 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Error Installing Files
In-Reply-To: <73972244-2C67-11D9-B8BE-000D932F4F94@markspace.com>
Message-ID: <BDAC433F.154E0%winb99@yahoo.com>

I had tried the soft reset, but that didn't work. Using a no extension reset
also did not work.

I honestly don't think this problem occurred before I installed OS 5.2.1.
Could THAT be the problem?

on 11/1/04 7:38 PM, Scott Gruby at sgruby@markspace.com wrote:

> 
> On Oct 30, 2004, at 1:42 PM, Win Barker wrote:
> 
>> I?ve had the same problem that several other posters have had. Neither
>> HotSync Manager nor MS will allow me to install files to my T3. My most
>> recent sync includes the following:
>> 
>> Sync starting at 10/30/04 3:35 PM on USB
>> ??    Failed to install digi_main.prc
>> ??    - Unexpected error number 16405
>> ??    - Unexpected error number 16405
>> ??
>> ??Failed Install (0x4015)
>> 
>> 
>> ...and...
>> 
>> 
>> TimeCopy: db create failed: 16405
>> ??Failed TimeCopy (0x0000)
>> ??    Failed to install digi_main.prc
>> ??    - Unexpected error number 16405
>> ??    - Unexpected error number 16405
>> ??
>> ??Failed Install (0x4015)
>> 
>> 
>> I am running Palm OS 5.2.1 and have 45.6 MB of free space and am
>> running
>> 10.3.5 on my iBook. I?ve tried repairing permissions and trashing the
>> preferences file. Based on support from Palm, I?ve tried replacing HS
>> Manager, Desktop, the entire Users directory...everything short of
>> doing a
>> hard reset on my T3. I had hoped that MS would solve my problem.
>> 
>> 
> 
> Did you try soft resetting your T3? (Hit the reset button in the back.)
> As Ken pointed out, the issue doesn't appear to be a Missing Sync issue
> as it also happens with HotSync Manager. If that doesn't work, I'd
> recommend doing a no extension reset which is a soft reset while
> holding the D-pad up. It is possible that you have installed an
> application that is interfering with the installation process. The
> error message you're getting is defined as "Generic remote system error
> (returned when exact cause is unknown)" which really doesn't help.
> 
> My guess is that the issue is with the handheld and not the desktop.
> You could also try turning off all other conduits to see if that
> changes the behavior.
> 
> --
> Scott Gruby
> Lead Engineer, Missing Sync for Palm OS
> Mark/Space, Inc.
> <http://www.markspace.com/>
> 
> Please contact support@markspace.com for assistance with Mark/Space
> products.
> 
> 
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-- 
Win Barker
winb99@yahoo.com
Macintosh for Productivity, Linux for Development, Palm for Mobility and
Windows for Solitaire 


From sgruby at markspace.com  Mon Nov  1 17:57:04 2004
From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby)
Date: Mon Nov  1 17:57:23 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Error Installing Files
In-Reply-To: <BDAC433F.154E0%winb99@yahoo.com>
References: <BDAC433F.154E0%winb99@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <7EAAA04C-2C72-11D9-B8BE-000D932F4F94@markspace.com>


On Nov 1, 2004, at 4:47 PM, Win Barker wrote:

> I had tried the soft reset, but that didn't work. Using a no extension 
> reset
> also did not work.
>
> I honestly don't think this problem occurred before I installed OS 
> 5.2.1.
> Could THAT be the problem?
>

I highly doubt it. OS 5.2.1 appears to have shipped on the T3. Of 
course, there was a ROM update to address other issues.

While I don't normally recommend a hard reset of the device, it almost 
seems like you might try it. Before doing that, however, do a full 
backup to an SD card using BackupMan or Right Back Up or another backup 
utility (this type of backup will be faster than Missing Sync 4.0.1; 
4.0.2 beta is faster than 4.0.1) so that you have 2 backups, one on 
your desktop and one on your SD card. Perform a hard reset on the 
device, sync by creating a new user (so that nothing gets restored to 
the device) and then try installing a small file.

If you're not comfortable with a hard reset, I wouldn't recommend this. 
(I'm out of ideas as this issue is nothing that I've ever encountered 
before.)

Good luck!

--
Scott Gruby
Lead Engineer, Missing Sync for Palm OS
Mark/Space, Inc.
<http://www.markspace.com/>

Please contact support@markspace.com for assistance with Mark/Space 
products.

From martin.muntenbruch at gmx.de  Mon Nov  1 23:31:17 2004
From: martin.muntenbruch at gmx.de (Martin Muntenbruch)
Date: Mon Nov  1 23:44:11 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: TimeCopy (v 1.5) did not update
In-Reply-To: <134A3CFA-2C4E-11D9-B8BE-000D932F4F94@markspace.com>
Message-ID: <BDAC77C5.676%martin.muntenbruch@gmx.de>

> The iSync conduit
> improperly moves conduits that it doesn't know about into Disabled
> Conduits.

Wow, that's interesting. Because I already had made myself a little
"disabled conduits" folder and suddenly there was a second one there - plus
all my conduits were moved. I was kinda shocked..

I fixed it manually.

I mean, I think I was like a normal user, thinking that AddressBook/iCal
would be taken care of by Missing Sync -- then finding out that I had to
download it, and then THIS.

I can imagine that there are lots of users who have trouble..

Thanks again for that info  ..guess it's written somewhere in the manual ;-)


Martin


From winb99 at yahoo.com  Tue Nov  2 06:21:52 2004
From: winb99 at yahoo.com (Win Barker)
Date: Tue Nov  2 04:22:31 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Error Installing Files
In-Reply-To: <7EAAA04C-2C72-11D9-B8BE-000D932F4F94@markspace.com>
Message-ID: <BDACD800.154F0%winb99@yahoo.com>

I don't have an SD card, but was planning to purchase one. However, if I
can't install any files, how can I use BackupMan or Right Back Up?

on 11/1/04 8:57 PM, Scott Gruby at sgruby@markspace.com wrote:

> 
> On Nov 1, 2004, at 4:47 PM, Win Barker wrote:
> 
>> I had tried the soft reset, but that didn't work. Using a no extension
>> reset
>> also did not work.
>> 
>> I honestly don't think this problem occurred before I installed OS
>> 5.2.1.
>> Could THAT be the problem?
>> 
> 
> I highly doubt it. OS 5.2.1 appears to have shipped on the T3. Of
> course, there was a ROM update to address other issues.
> 
> While I don't normally recommend a hard reset of the device, it almost
> seems like you might try it. Before doing that, however, do a full
> backup to an SD card using BackupMan or Right Back Up or another backup
> utility (this type of backup will be faster than Missing Sync 4.0.1;
> 4.0.2 beta is faster than 4.0.1) so that you have 2 backups, one on
> your desktop and one on your SD card. Perform a hard reset on the
> device, sync by creating a new user (so that nothing gets restored to
> the device) and then try installing a small file.
> 
> If you're not comfortable with a hard reset, I wouldn't recommend this.
> (I'm out of ideas as this issue is nothing that I've ever encountered
> before.)
> 
> Good luck!
> 
> --
> Scott Gruby
> Lead Engineer, Missing Sync for Palm OS
> Mark/Space, Inc.
> <http://www.markspace.com/>
> 
> Please contact support@markspace.com for assistance with Mark/Space
> products.
> 
> _______________________________________________
> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list
> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com
> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found
> at:
> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk


-- 
Win Barker
winb99@yahoo.com
Macintosh for Productivity, Linux for Development, Palm for Mobility and
Windows for Solitaire 

From henryseiden at bellsouth.net  Tue Nov  2 08:41:08 2004
From: henryseiden at bellsouth.net (Henry M. Seiden)
Date: Tue Nov  2 05:41:12 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Memo
Message-ID: <D9F5F953-2CD4-11D9-B044-000393B3C6A2@bellsouth.net>

When I completed the sync with missing sync (except for the backup 
issue I noted previously) I found that although Memos (memopad, 
Notepad) were backed according to the log, there were none in Memo 
application of Missing Sync. It was showing the right User, but I got 
no memos across.

Any ideas?

Henry

From sgruby at markspace.com  Tue Nov  2 07:11:37 2004
From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby)
Date: Tue Nov  2 07:12:08 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Error Installing Files
In-Reply-To: <BDACD800.154F0%winb99@yahoo.com>
References: <BDACD800.154F0%winb99@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <7DBFEA99-2CE1-11D9-B8BE-000D932F4F94@markspace.com>


On Nov 2, 2004, at 3:21 AM, Win Barker wrote:

> I don't have an SD card, but was planning to purchase one. However, if 
> I
> can't install any files, how can I use BackupMan or Right Back Up?
>
>

That's an interesting problem. If your Mac has Bluetooth, you can send 
the file over Bluetooth to your T3.
--
Scott Gruby
Lead Engineer, Missing Sync for Palm OS
Mark/Space, Inc.
<http://www.markspace.com/>

Please contact support@markspace.com for assistance with Mark/Space 
products.

From henryseiden at bellsouth.net  Tue Nov  2 10:11:56 2004
From: henryseiden at bellsouth.net (Henry M. Seiden)
Date: Tue Nov  2 07:12:09 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Memos
Message-ID: <8931CBE6-2CE1-11D9-B044-000393B3C6A2@bellsouth.net>

It seems that your sync program inherits all the limitation of the Palm 
OS, Palm Desktop and its conduits. Plus it adds a few for no extra 
charge.

Take the Memo Pad application for example. If there are 15 categories 
in any of the parts of Desktop (Datebook, Addressbook, Memo) then with 
HotSync you got an error when synchronizing but it did complete and 
give a last sync time that was accurate, even though there was an error 
and the data did transfer. Not with Missing Sync... you get the same 
error but the Last Sync info doesn't update (still says Never). The 
error log does show the problem.

The only fix for the problem is to limit the total categories in all 
parts of the Desktop application to 15 and this is way too few! This 
has been a long standing problem. I am considering using iSync and iCal 
options on the desktop, with their differing limitations on the Palm 
handheld side. The lesser of two evils??

Moreover the MemoPad application has no data in it.
--
Some guy hit my fender the other day, and I said
unto him " Be fruitful and multiply". But not in those words . . . . .
(Woody Allen) 

From sgruby at markspace.com  Tue Nov  2 07:28:13 2004
From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby)
Date: Tue Nov  2 07:28:33 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Memos
In-Reply-To: <8931CBE6-2CE1-11D9-B044-000393B3C6A2@bellsouth.net>
References: <8931CBE6-2CE1-11D9-B044-000393B3C6A2@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <CFB12056-2CE3-11D9-B8BE-000D932F4F94@markspace.com>


On Nov 2, 2004, at 7:11 AM, Henry M. Seiden wrote:

> The only fix for the problem is to limit the total categories in all 
> parts of the Desktop application to 15 and this is way too few! This 
> has been a long standing problem. I am considering using iSync and 
> iCal options on the desktop, with their differing limitations on the 
> Palm handheld side. The lesser of two evils??
>

Unfortunately the Palm OS is limited to 16 categories (I believe it is 
16 and not 15). There is nothing that we can do to fix it. This issue 
has been addressed in Palm OS Cobalt (Palm OS 6), but there is no 
estimate on when a device having Palm OS Cobalt will be available.

--
Scott Gruby
Lead Engineer, Missing Sync for Palm OS
Mark/Space, Inc.
<http://www.markspace.com/>

Please contact support@markspace.com for assistance with Mark/Space 
products.

From kfreeman at markspace.com  Tue Nov  2 08:57:53 2004
From: kfreeman at markspace.com (Ken Freeman)
Date: Tue Nov  2 08:57:55 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Memo
In-Reply-To: <D9F5F953-2CD4-11D9-B044-000393B3C6A2@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <BDACFC91.2DD3%kfreeman@markspace.com>

You probably don't have the correct "memo" conduit for use with the
Mark/Space MemoPad. Review the Knowledgebase article at
<http://www.markspace.com/support/index.php?x=&mod_id=2&id=331>.

This article explains the conflict dialog that you would get if you have
more than one memo conduit installed, but it also explains the different
memo conduit options.

Ken


On 11/2/04 5:41 AM, "Henry M. Seiden" <henryseiden@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> When I completed the sync with missing sync (except for the backup
> issue I noted previously) I found that although Memos (memopad,
> Notepad) were backed according to the log, there were none in Memo
> application of Missing Sync. It was showing the right User, but I got
> no memos across.
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> Henry
> 
> _______________________________________________
> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list
> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com
> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found
> at:
> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk


From sgruby at markspace.com  Tue Nov  2 11:24:38 2004
From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby)
Date: Tue Nov  2 11:25:22 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] 
	Missing Sync for Palm OS 4.0.2 beta 6 now available
Message-ID: <D66E1AC0-2D04-11D9-B8BE-000D932F4F94@markspace.com>

Mark/Space, Inc. is pleased to announce The Missing Sync for Palm OS 
4.0.2 beta 5. This version is being made available to registered users 
for testing various fixes. Please note that since this is a beta 
version, it has not been fully tested. We recommend you backup your 
data prior to installing. If you have issues with this version, you may 
have to revert to the shipping version. However, if you have any 
problems with the current shipping version, you are encouraged to try 
this beta version.

Please check: 
<http://www.markspace.com/missingsync_palmos_conduits.html> for status 
of various conduits as this release fixes issues with many conduits.

Please note: Epocrates and Chronos Group Organizer are not supported; 
we are waiting on the conduit developers to update their conduits.


The beta version can be downloaded from: 
<http://www.markspace.com/testing/>

version 4.0.2 b5
---------------------
-Fixed issue where conduit info may not be displayed correctly after 
conduit is added or removed.
-Addressed issue with installing Tungsten T5 ROM update prematurely 
resetting unit.
-Addressed various T5 issues with mounting and syncing.
-Various bug fixes.

version 4.0.2 b4
---------------------
-Issue 1733 - Pocket Quicken data file now properly displays in conduit 
settings dialog when using Pocket Quicken 2.03 or later.
-Sync reminder no longer appears while syncing.
-Registration information is now written to /Library/Preferences when 
application is registered not from the installer. If the user does not 
have admin privs, authorization is required to write out the proper 
information.
-Issue 2024 - Fixed issue sending down database list to conduits; 
affecting Contacts conduits as well as others based on Generic Conduit 
Framework.
-Issue 2025 - iSync and Entourage conduit conflicts are now detected.
  -Issue 2026 - Package name changed to Missing Sync Installer.pkg
-Issue 2027 - Fixed issues syncing while Classic is running
-Added ability to defer registration in case user is not connected to 
Internet when first installing.
  -Issue 2029 - Updated version number in localized readmes
-Fixed issue dealing with incorrect conduit conflicts
-Addressed issue where conduit list may not properly update after 
adding a conduit that conflicts with another conduit.
-Added code to prevent Missing Sync from crashing when conduits access 
the Sync Manager on more than one thread (this is not permitted 
according to the conduit developer documentation).
-Fixed crash when dragging items from handheld to card or vice versa 
and then quitting.
---------------------
version 4.0.2 b3

-Issue 1846 - Fixed issue with Oracles conduits freezing user interface 
when attempting to configure them.
-Issue 1894 - Palm mounting driver now honors write protect flag and 
correctly reports it.
-Registering during the install process now registers the application 
for all OS X users.
-Registration of application is now handled in installer.

version 4.0.2 b2
---------------------
-Issue 1967 - Addressed performance issues

version 4.0.2 b1
---------------------
-Issue 1926 - Fixed issue with airline conduits (United, Alaska, AA)
-Issue 2005, if the conduit conflict dialog appears and there is no 
disabled conduits folder, the conduit(s) that is disabled will be 
renamed Disabled Conduits
-Fixed issue where some conduits that didn't have a ConfigureConduit 
entry point weren't being loaded.
-Fixed issue where Find (in log) was not available after syncing
-Issue 2008 - Fixed crash when cancelling out of registration that was 
initiated by a HotSync
-Issue 2009 - Fixed issue where conduits based on Generic Conduit 
Framework could crash if requested databases did not exist on handheld.
-Fixed issue where wrong databases were being presented to conduits 
that had applications installed in RAM.
-Issue 2011 - Addressed issue where switching handheld users multiple 
times could confuse application.
-When an update is available, visit website now takes the user to 
http://www.markspace.com/downloads.html
-When small window is visible, window name now appears in Windows menu
-Fixed issue where conduits that used slWarning for log messages were 
incorrectly causing the sync to not complete (the error was bogus). A 
different dialog is now presented to the user indicating that there are 
log messages.
-When a read such as SyncReadRecordByIndex fails, the m_pBytes member 
is no longer set to nil.l
-Addressed issue with Chronos Group Organizer hanging while syncing.
-When a read such as SyncReadRecordByIndex fails, the m_pBytes member 
is no longer set to nil. (Addressed issues with Now Up To Date 
conduit).
-Fixed issues with various conduits; please check Supported Conduits 
for updated list of supported conduits.

--
Scott Gruby
Lead Engineer, Missing Sync for Palm OS
Mark/Space, Inc.
<http://www.markspace.com/>

Please contact support@markspace.com for assistance with Mark/Space 
products.

From roundoc at qwest.net  Tue Nov  2 13:34:23 2004
From: roundoc at qwest.net (Robert Rountree, MD)
Date: Tue Nov  2 12:34:28 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Epocrates
Message-ID: <BDAD3D5F.21D1%roundoc@qwest.net>

Does this message mean that upgrading to the latest version will interfere
with Epocrates?  I'm using MS version 4.0.1 and it usually hotsyncs OK with
the Epocrates Autoupdate server, although sometimes I have to sync twice to
make it work.

Robert Rountree, M.D.
Boulder, Colorado


From jlund at jmlgraphics.com  Tue Nov  2 15:54:39 2004
From: jlund at jmlgraphics.com (Jacqueline Lund)
Date: Tue Nov  2 12:55:18 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] 
	Re: missing-sync-palmos-talk Digest, Vol 18, Issue 3
In-Reply-To: <200411021528.iA2FSMSF025885@penguin.markspace.com>
Message-ID: <BDAD5E3F.12B9%jlund@jmlgraphics.com>

I don't know if that was part of the problem, but I did get it fixed. It
seems that when I installed Office 2004 using the istaller on the CD, it
imported my database from Office X, and that database continued the "think"
it was still Office X. So I dragged all my messages and mailboxes onto the
desktop, quit Entourage and removed the datebase from the Min Identity
folder. Then I restarted from scratch, and set up Entourage as if for the
first time, and dragged all my mailboxes back. That took care of the "open
identity" problem, but I still couldn't sync because it said the handheld
database couldn't be opened.

So I opened the settings for the date book and set it to sync only one
category, (family), one that had no repeating events. It synced perfectly,
only synced all my events as if they were all "family." I changed them in
the calendar to the correct categories, made sure that my Palm and entourage
had the same exact categories (and names) and changed the setting to sync
all categories. The next time I synced it seemed to work just fine, and left
the categories as they were.

The only thing that didn't sync was the Memos, it said it couldn't open the
handheld database. I'll have to work on that some more, but at least
everything else is working.

Thanks,

jackie


On 11/2/04 10:28 AM, "missing-sync-palmos-talk-request@lists.markspace.com"
<missing-sync-palmos-talk-request@lists.markspace.com> wrote:

> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2004 16:52:23 -0800
> From: Bruce Rappaport <brappapo@earthlink.net>
> Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] another identity is open?
> To: <missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com>
> Message-ID: <BDAC1A47.6353%brappapo@earthlink.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
> 
> 
>>>> ..Syncing with Entourage: another identity is open?
>> 
>> I had this problem recently and it turned out that my Entourage identity did
>> not have the exactly same name as my PP identity.  When I changed it, all was
>> fine.  Long shot but maybe.
>> 
>> Bruce R


From sgruby at markspace.com  Tue Nov  2 13:06:39 2004
From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby)
Date: Tue Nov  2 13:07:00 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Epocrates
In-Reply-To: <BDAD3D5F.21D1%roundoc@qwest.net>
References: <BDAD3D5F.21D1%roundoc@qwest.net>
Message-ID: <16EEA9B0-2D13-11D9-B8BE-000D932F4F94@markspace.com>


On Nov 2, 2004, at 12:34 PM, Robert Rountree, MD wrote:

> Does this message mean that upgrading to the latest version will 
> interfere
> with Epocrates?  I'm using MS version 4.0.1 and it usually hotsyncs OK 
> with
> the Epocrates Autoupdate server, although sometimes I have to sync 
> twice to
> make it work.
>

In our testing, we have found Epocrates to be unreliable with the 
latest beta. We recommend that you wait for Epocrates to update their 
conduit. We have also had mixed results with the Epocrates conduit and 
Missing Sync 4.0.1. Epocrates is working to correct this issue, but I 
have no information on when an update is available.


--
Scott Gruby
Lead Engineer, Missing Sync for Palm OS
Mark/Space, Inc.
<http://www.markspace.com/>

Please contact support@markspace.com for assistance with Mark/Space 
products.

From mail at wlinkw.com  Wed Nov  3 08:08:12 2004
From: mail at wlinkw.com (W Yu)
Date: Tue Nov  2 13:08:27 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk]  Missing Sync for Palm OS 4.0.2
 beta 6 now available
In-Reply-To: <D66E1AC0-2D04-11D9-B8BE-000D932F4F94@markspace.com>
Message-ID: <BDAE426C.CCC9%mail@wlinkw.com>

Not good. Not good at all!

Installed 4.0.2b5 over the previous 4.0.2b3 in OS X 10.3.5. Reviewed all
settings and attempted to hotsync. Initially a dialogue box would come up
asking for Keychain access permission and the progress window would pop out.
Then it's just wait and wait and wait. I can see that there's a slow stream
of slow but continuous HD activities (in and out), but there's no real
progress in the progress bar. Eventually my Palm (T2) would abandon its
communication attempt and shuts down. MS on the Mac would need a force quit
to stop.

On subsequent attempts, the keychain dialogue would no longer appear, but
the progress bar just spins and spins.

Any comments?

-- 
Cheers,
Weiyun


Scott Gruby at sgruby@markspace.com wrote on 03/11/04 06:24:

> Mark/Space, Inc. is pleased to announce The Missing Sync for Palm OS
> 4.0.2 beta 5. This version is being made available to registered users
> for testing various fixes. Please note that since this is a beta
> version, it has not been fully tested. We recommend you backup your
> data prior to installing. If you have issues with this version, you may
> have to revert to the shipping version. However, if you have any
> problems with the current shipping version, you are encouraged to try
> this beta version.
> 
> Please check: 
> <http://www.markspace.com/missingsync_palmos_conduits.html> for status
> of various conduits as this release fixes issues with many conduits.
> 
> Please note: Epocrates and Chronos Group Organizer are not supported;
> we are waiting on the conduit developers to update their conduits.
> 
> 
> The beta version can be downloaded from:
> <http://www.markspace.com/testing/>
> 
> version 4.0.2 b5
> ---------------------
> -Fixed issue where conduit info may not be displayed correctly after
> conduit is added or removed.
> -Addressed issue with installing Tungsten T5 ROM update prematurely
> resetting unit.
> -Addressed various T5 issues with mounting and syncing.
> -Various bug fixes.
> 
> version 4.0.2 b4
> ---------------------
> -Issue 1733 - Pocket Quicken data file now properly displays in conduit
> settings dialog when using Pocket Quicken 2.03 or later.
> -Sync reminder no longer appears while syncing.
> -Registration information is now written to /Library/Preferences when
> application is registered not from the installer. If the user does not
> have admin privs, authorization is required to write out the proper
> information.
> -Issue 2024 - Fixed issue sending down database list to conduits;
> affecting Contacts conduits as well as others based on Generic Conduit
> Framework.
> -Issue 2025 - iSync and Entourage conduit conflicts are now detected.
>   -Issue 2026 - Package name changed to Missing Sync Installer.pkg
> -Issue 2027 - Fixed issues syncing while Classic is running
> -Added ability to defer registration in case user is not connected to
> Internet when first installing.
>   -Issue 2029 - Updated version number in localized readmes
> -Fixed issue dealing with incorrect conduit conflicts
> -Addressed issue where conduit list may not properly update after
> adding a conduit that conflicts with another conduit.
> -Added code to prevent Missing Sync from crashing when conduits access
> the Sync Manager on more than one thread (this is not permitted
> according to the conduit developer documentation).
> -Fixed crash when dragging items from handheld to card or vice versa
> and then quitting.
> ---------------------
> version 4.0.2 b3
> 
> -Issue 1846 - Fixed issue with Oracles conduits freezing user interface
> when attempting to configure them.
> -Issue 1894 - Palm mounting driver now honors write protect flag and
> correctly reports it.
> -Registering during the install process now registers the application
> for all OS X users.
> -Registration of application is now handled in installer.


From albie1 at mac.com  Tue Nov  2 22:16:46 2004
From: albie1 at mac.com (albie)
Date: Tue Nov  2 13:17:00 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk]	Missing Sync for Palm OS 4.0.2 beta 6
	now available
In-Reply-To: <D66E1AC0-2D04-11D9-B8BE-000D932F4F94@markspace.com>
References: <D66E1AC0-2D04-11D9-B8BE-000D932F4F94@markspace.com>
Message-ID: <805F0306-2D14-11D9-AD7B-000D93AE4C02@mac.com>

Downloaded 4.0.2b5, installed, restarted, attempted to sync three 
times, three times totally unsuccessful (iSync no response), had to 
force quit Missing Sync each time, uninstalled 4.0.2b5, reinstalled 
4.0.2b3, and everything is back to working fine again. An exercise of 
45 mins in all. Will wait for next beta :-).

On Nov 2, 2004, at 8:24 PM, Scott Gruby wrote:

> Mark/Space, Inc. is pleased to announce The Missing Sync for Palm OS 
> 4.0.2 beta 5. This version is being made available to registered users 
> for testing various fixes. Please note that since this is a beta 
> version, it has not been fully tested. We recommend you backup your 
> data prior to installing. If you have issues with this version, you 
> may have to revert to the shipping version. However, if you have any 
> problems with the current shipping version, you are encouraged to try 
> this beta version.

From plessard at mac.com  Tue Nov  2 16:27:52 2004
From: plessard at mac.com (Pascal Lessard)
Date: Tue Nov  2 13:29:05 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] 
	Why do we have to restart after installing Missing Sync ?
In-Reply-To: <D66E1AC0-2D04-11D9-B8BE-000D932F4F94@markspace.com>
References: <D66E1AC0-2D04-11D9-B8BE-000D932F4F94@markspace.com>
Message-ID: <0D7CCE37-2D16-11D9-A279-0003934B11F0@mac.com>

Hi !

	Is it absolutely necessary to force a restart after installing Missing 
Sync ? Why isn't a simple logout/log back in enough ? This is so "Mac 
OS 9" ! ;-)

	Yours,

				Pascal

From atmasphere at atmasphere.net  Tue Nov  2 16:35:34 2004
From: atmasphere at atmasphere.net (Jonathan Greene)
Date: Tue Nov  2 13:35:39 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk]  Missing Sync for Palm OS 4.0.2 beta 6
	now available
In-Reply-To: <D66E1AC0-2D04-11D9-B8BE-000D932F4F94@markspace.com>
References: <D66E1AC0-2D04-11D9-B8BE-000D932F4F94@markspace.com>
Message-ID: <20E00A6C-2D17-11D9-A15D-000A95C47866@atmasphere.net>

I can' get my profiles to work.  I can sync, but I can't choose between 
the few setups I have.


On Nov 2, 2004, at 2:24 PM, Scott Gruby wrote:

> Mark/Space, Inc. is pleased to announce The Missing Sync for Palm OS 
> 4.0.2 beta 5. This version is being made available to registered users 
> for testing various fixes. Please note that since this is a beta 
> version, it has not been fully tested. We recommend you backup your 
> data prior to installing. If you have issues with this version, you 
> may have to revert to the shipping version. However, if you have any 
> problems with the current shipping version, you are encouraged to try 
> this beta version.
>
> Please check: 
> <http://www.markspace.com/missingsync_palmos_conduits.html> for status 
> of various conduits as this release fixes issues with many conduits.
>
> Please note: Epocrates and Chronos Group Organizer are not supported; 
> we are waiting on the conduit developers to update their conduits.
>
>
> The beta version can be downloaded from: 
> <http://www.markspace.com/testing/>
>
> version 4.0.2 b5
> ---------------------
> -Fixed issue where conduit info may not be displayed correctly after 
> conduit is added or removed.
> -Addressed issue with installing Tungsten T5 ROM update prematurely 
> resetting unit.
> -Addressed various T5 issues with mounting and syncing.
> -Various bug fixes.
>
> version 4.0.2 b4
> ---------------------
> -Issue 1733 - Pocket Quicken data file now properly displays in 
> conduit settings dialog when using Pocket Quicken 2.03 or later.
> -Sync reminder no longer appears while syncing.
> -Registration information is now written to /Library/Preferences when 
> application is registered not from the installer. If the user does not 
> have admin privs, authorization is required to write out the proper 
> information.
> -Issue 2024 - Fixed issue sending down database list to conduits; 
> affecting Contacts conduits as well as others based on Generic Conduit 
> Framework.
> -Issue 2025 - iSync and Entourage conduit conflicts are now detected.
>  -Issue 2026 - Package name changed to Missing Sync Installer.pkg
> -Issue 2027 - Fixed issues syncing while Classic is running
> -Added ability to defer registration in case user is not connected to 
> Internet when first installing.
>  -Issue 2029 - Updated version number in localized readmes
> -Fixed issue dealing with incorrect conduit conflicts
> -Addressed issue where conduit list may not properly update after 
> adding a conduit that conflicts with another conduit.
> -Added code to prevent Missing Sync from crashing when conduits access 
> the Sync Manager on more than one thread (this is not permitted 
> according to the conduit developer documentation).
> -Fixed crash when dragging items from handheld to card or vice versa 
> and then quitting.
> ---------------------
> version 4.0.2 b3
>
> -Issue 1846 - Fixed issue with Oracles conduits freezing user 
> interface when attempting to configure them.
> -Issue 1894 - Palm mounting driver now honors write protect flag and 
> correctly reports it.
> -Registering during the install process now registers the application 
> for all OS X users.
> -Registration of application is now handled in installer.
>
> version 4.0.2 b2
> ---------------------
> -Issue 1967 - Addressed performance issues
>
> version 4.0.2 b1
> ---------------------
> -Issue 1926 - Fixed issue with airline conduits (United, Alaska, AA)
> -Issue 2005, if the conduit conflict dialog appears and there is no 
> disabled conduits folder, the conduit(s) that is disabled will be 
> renamed Disabled Conduits
> -Fixed issue where some conduits that didn't have a ConfigureConduit 
> entry point weren't being loaded.
> -Fixed issue where Find (in log) was not available after syncing
> -Issue 2008 - Fixed crash when cancelling out of registration that was 
> initiated by a HotSync
> -Issue 2009 - Fixed issue where conduits based on Generic Conduit 
> Framework could crash if requested databases did not exist on 
> handheld.
> -Fixed issue where wrong databases were being presented to conduits 
> that had applications installed in RAM.
> -Issue 2011 - Addressed issue where switching handheld users multiple 
> times could confuse application.
> -When an update is available, visit website now takes the user to 
> http://www.markspace.com/downloads.html
> -When small window is visible, window name now appears in Windows menu
> -Fixed issue where conduits that used slWarning for log messages were 
> incorrectly causing the sync to not complete (the error was bogus). A 
> different dialog is now presented to the user indicating that there 
> are log messages.
> -When a read such as SyncReadRecordByIndex fails, the m_pBytes member 
> is no longer set to nil.l
> -Addressed issue with Chronos Group Organizer hanging while syncing.
> -When a read such as SyncReadRecordByIndex fails, the m_pBytes member 
> is no longer set to nil. (Addressed issues with Now Up To Date 
> conduit).
> -Fixed issues with various conduits; please check Supported Conduits 
> for updated list of supported conduits.
>
> --
> Scott Gruby
> Lead Engineer, Missing Sync for Palm OS
> Mark/Space, Inc.
> <http://www.markspace.com/>
>
> Please contact support@markspace.com for assistance with Mark/Space 
> products.
>
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From sgruby at markspace.com  Tue Nov  2 13:47:57 2004
From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby)
Date: Tue Nov  2 13:48:17 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk]  Missing Sync for Palm OS 4.0.2 beta 6
	now available
In-Reply-To: <BDAE426C.CCC9%mail@wlinkw.com>
References: <BDAE426C.CCC9%mail@wlinkw.com>
Message-ID: <DBAF97F2-2D18-11D9-B8BE-000D932F4F94@markspace.com>


On Nov 2, 2004, at 1:08 PM, W Yu wrote:

> Not good. Not good at all!
>
> Installed 4.0.2b5 over the previous 4.0.2b3 in OS X 10.3.5. Reviewed 
> all
> settings and attempted to hotsync. Initially a dialogue box would come 
> up
> asking for Keychain access permission and the progress window would 
> pop out.
> Then it's just wait and wait and wait. I can see that there's a slow 
> stream
> of slow but continuous HD activities (in and out), but there's no real
> progress in the progress bar. Eventually my Palm (T2) would abandon its
> communication attempt and shuts down. MS on the Mac would need a force 
> quit
> to stop.
>
> On subsequent attempts, the keychain dialogue would no longer appear, 
> but
> the progress bar just spins and spins.
>
> Any comments?
>

Please visit: 
<http://www.markspace.com/support/emailsupport_mspalm_beta.html> and 
fill out a bug report. In your bug report, include (at least) the 
following:

- Sync log
- Complete list of conduits you are using and versions
- OS version


Unfortunately your report is too incomplete for us to determine the 
issue. If you submit feedback and work with support on reproducing the 
issue, it will get submitted to engineering to resolve.

--
Scott Gruby
Lead Engineer, Missing Sync for Palm OS
Mark/Space, Inc.
<http://www.markspace.com/>

Please contact support@markspace.com for assistance with Mark/Space 
products.

From sgruby at markspace.com  Tue Nov  2 13:50:20 2004
From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby)
Date: Tue Nov  2 13:50:39 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk]	Missing Sync for Palm OS 4.0.2 beta 6
	now available
In-Reply-To: <805F0306-2D14-11D9-AD7B-000D93AE4C02@mac.com>
References: <D66E1AC0-2D04-11D9-B8BE-000D932F4F94@markspace.com>
	<805F0306-2D14-11D9-AD7B-000D93AE4C02@mac.com>
Message-ID: <30DDD388-2D19-11D9-B8BE-000D932F4F94@markspace.com>


On Nov 2, 2004, at 1:16 PM, albie wrote:

> Downloaded 4.0.2b5, installed, restarted, attempted to sync three 
> times, three times totally unsuccessful (iSync no response), had to 
> force quit Missing Sync each time, uninstalled 4.0.2b5, reinstalled 
> 4.0.2b3, and everything is back to working fine again. An exercise of 
> 45 mins in all. Will wait for next beta :-).
>
>

Please visit: 
<http://www.markspace.com/support/emailsupport_mspalm_beta.html> and 
fill out a bug report. In your bug report, include (at least) the 
following:

- Sync log
- Complete list of conduits you are using and versions
- OS version


Unfortunately your report is too incomplete for us to determine the 
issue. If you submit feedback and work with support on reproducing the 
issue, it will get submitted to engineering to resolve.

We can't fix issues if they're not reported to us, so waiting for the 
next beta may not help. We put out the public betas to get feedback so 
that we can address issues.


--
Scott Gruby
Lead Engineer, Missing Sync for Palm OS
Mark/Space, Inc.
<http://www.markspace.com/>

Please contact support@markspace.com for assistance with Mark/Space 
products.

From sgruby at markspace.com  Tue Nov  2 14:09:49 2004
From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby)
Date: Tue Nov  2 14:10:09 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk]  Why do we have to restart after
	installing Missing Sync ?
In-Reply-To: <0D7CCE37-2D16-11D9-A279-0003934B11F0@mac.com>
References: <D66E1AC0-2D04-11D9-B8BE-000D932F4F94@markspace.com>
	<0D7CCE37-2D16-11D9-A279-0003934B11F0@mac.com>
Message-ID: <E9AAB002-2D1B-11D9-B8BE-000D932F4F94@markspace.com>


On Nov 2, 2004, at 1:27 PM, Pascal Lessard wrote:

> Hi !
>
> 	Is it absolutely necessary to force a restart after installing 
> Missing Sync ? Why isn't a simple logout/log back in enough ? This is 
> so "Mac OS 9" ! ;-)
>
>

The restart is necessary mainly when upgrading (either from Missing 
Sync or Palm Desktop) so that the new components are used by all 
applications. There is really no way for us to know what other programs 
are using our components so we can't just shut them down. By 
restarting, we ensure that all applications will be using the new 
components. While I agree that it would be better if a restart was not 
necessary, unfortunately this is the only way for things to work 
smoothly. (The components that I'm referring to in particular are our 
kernel extension for mounting, our framework and CFM Shared Library 
needed for conduits and applications to talk to our software.)

--
Scott Gruby
Lead Engineer, Missing Sync for Palm OS
Mark/Space, Inc.
<http://www.markspace.com/>

Please contact support@markspace.com for assistance with Mark/Space 
products.

From i1i at earthlink.net  Tue Nov  2 17:32:55 2004
From: i1i at earthlink.net (Tom Carpenter)
Date: Tue Nov  2 14:33:00 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] 
	Re: missing-sync-palmos-talk Digest, Vol 18, Issue 5
In-Reply-To: <200411022229.iA2MTfSE010544@penguin.markspace.com>
References: <200411022229.iA2MTfSE010544@penguin.markspace.com>
Message-ID: <240EF27C-2D1F-11D9-ADC4-000D9368D466@earthlink.net>

remove

On 02 Nov, 2004, at 17:29, 
missing-sync-palmos-talk-request@lists.markspace.com wrote:

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> Today's Topics:
>
>    1. Epocrates (Robert Rountree, MD)
>    2. 	Re: missing-sync-palmos-talk Digest, Vol 18, Issue 3
>       (Jacqueline Lund)
>    3. Re: Epocrates (Scott Gruby)
>    4. Re:  Missing Sync for Palm OS 4.0.2 beta 6 now available (W Yu)
>    5. Re: [missing-sync-palmos-talk]	Missing Sync for Palm OS 4.0.2
>       beta 6	now available (albie)
>    6. 	Why do we have to restart after installing Missing Sync ?
>       (Pascal Lessard)
>    7. Re:  Missing Sync for Palm OS 4.0.2 beta 6	now available
>       (Jonathan Greene)
>    8. Re:  Missing Sync for Palm OS 4.0.2 beta 6	now available
>       (Scott Gruby)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2004 13:34:23 -0700
> From: "Robert Rountree, MD" <roundoc@qwest.net>
> Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Epocrates
> To: missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com
> Message-ID: <BDAD3D5F.21D1%roundoc@qwest.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="US-ASCII"
>
> Does this message mean that upgrading to the latest version will 
> interfere
> with Epocrates?  I'm using MS version 4.0.1 and it usually hotsyncs OK 
> with
> the Epocrates Autoupdate server, although sometimes I have to sync 
> twice to
> make it work.
>
> Robert Rountree, M.D.
> Boulder, Colorado
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2004 15:54:39 -0500
> From: Jacqueline Lund <jlund@jmlgraphics.com>
> Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] 	Re: missing-sync-palmos-talk
> 	Digest, Vol 18, Issue 3
> To: <missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com>
> Message-ID: <BDAD5E3F.12B9%jlund@jmlgraphics.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="US-ASCII"
>
> I don't know if that was part of the problem, but I did get it fixed. 
> It
> seems that when I installed Office 2004 using the istaller on the CD, 
> it
> imported my database from Office X, and that database continued the 
> "think"
> it was still Office X. So I dragged all my messages and mailboxes onto 
> the
> desktop, quit Entourage and removed the datebase from the Min Identity
> folder. Then I restarted from scratch, and set up Entourage as if for 
> the
> first time, and dragged all my mailboxes back. That took care of the 
> "open
> identity" problem, but I still couldn't sync because it said the 
> handheld
> database couldn't be opened.
>
> So I opened the settings for the date book and set it to sync only one
> category, (family), one that had no repeating events. It synced 
> perfectly,
> only synced all my events as if they were all "family." I changed them 
> in
> the calendar to the correct categories, made sure that my Palm and 
> entourage
> had the same exact categories (and names) and changed the setting to 
> sync
> all categories. The next time I synced it seemed to work just fine, 
> and left
> the categories as they were.
>
> The only thing that didn't sync was the Memos, it said it couldn't 
> open the
> handheld database. I'll have to work on that some more, but at least
> everything else is working.
>
> Thanks,
>
> jackie
>
>
> On 11/2/04 10:28 AM, 
> "missing-sync-palmos-talk-request@lists.markspace.com"
> <missing-sync-palmos-talk-request@lists.markspace.com> wrote:
>
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2004 16:52:23 -0800
>> From: Bruce Rappaport <brappapo@earthlink.net>
>> Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] another identity is open?
>> To: <missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com>
>> Message-ID: <BDAC1A47.6353%brappapo@earthlink.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>>
>>
>>>>> ..Syncing with Entourage: another identity is open?
>>>
>>> I had this problem recently and it turned out that my Entourage 
>>> identity did
>>> not have the exactly same name as my PP identity.  When I changed 
>>> it, all was
>>> fine.  Long shot but maybe.
>>>
>>> Bruce R
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 13:06:39 -0800
> From: Scott Gruby <sgruby@markspace.com>
> Subject: Re: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Epocrates
> To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Palm OS\) Discussion List"
> 	<missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com>
> Message-ID: <16EEA9B0-2D13-11D9-B8BE-000D932F4F94@markspace.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>
>
> On Nov 2, 2004, at 12:34 PM, Robert Rountree, MD wrote:
>
>> Does this message mean that upgrading to the latest version will
>> interfere
>> with Epocrates?  I'm using MS version 4.0.1 and it usually hotsyncs OK
>> with
>> the Epocrates Autoupdate server, although sometimes I have to sync
>> twice to
>> make it work.
>>
>
> In our testing, we have found Epocrates to be unreliable with the
> latest beta. We recommend that you wait for Epocrates to update their
> conduit. We have also had mixed results with the Epocrates conduit and
> Missing Sync 4.0.1. Epocrates is working to correct this issue, but I
> have no information on when an update is available.
>
>
> --
> Scott Gruby
> Lead Engineer, Missing Sync for Palm OS
> Mark/Space, Inc.
> <http://www.markspace.com/>
>
> Please contact support@markspace.com for assistance with Mark/Space
> products.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2004 08:08:12 +1100
> From: W Yu <mail@wlinkw.com>
> Subject: Re: [missing-sync-palmos-talk]  Missing Sync for Palm OS
> 	4.0.2 beta 6 now available
> To: MissingSync Mailing List
> 	<missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com>
> Message-ID: <BDAE426C.CCC9%mail@wlinkw.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="US-ASCII"
>
> Not good. Not good at all!
>
> Installed 4.0.2b5 over the previous 4.0.2b3 in OS X 10.3.5. Reviewed 
> all
> settings and attempted to hotsync. Initially a dialogue box would come 
> up
> asking for Keychain access permission and the progress window would 
> pop out.
> Then it's just wait and wait and wait. I can see that there's a slow 
> stream
> of slow but continuous HD activities (in and out), but there's no real
> progress in the progress bar. Eventually my Palm (T2) would abandon its
> communication attempt and shuts down. MS on the Mac would need a force 
> quit
> to stop.
>
> On subsequent attempts, the keychain dialogue would no longer appear, 
> but
> the progress bar just spins and spins.
>
> Any comments?
>
> -- 
> Cheers,
> Weiyun
>
>
> Scott Gruby at sgruby@markspace.com wrote on 03/11/04 06:24:
>
>> Mark/Space, Inc. is pleased to announce The Missing Sync for Palm OS
>> 4.0.2 beta 5. This version is being made available to registered users
>> for testing various fixes. Please note that since this is a beta
>> version, it has not been fully tested. We recommend you backup your
>> data prior to installing. If you have issues with this version, you 
>> may
>> have to revert to the shipping version. However, if you have any
>> problems with the current shipping version, you are encouraged to try
>> this beta version.
>>
>> Please check:
>> <http://www.markspace.com/missingsync_palmos_conduits.html> for status
>> of various conduits as this release fixes issues with many conduits.
>>
>> Please note: Epocrates and Chronos Group Organizer are not supported;
>> we are waiting on the conduit developers to update their conduits.
>>
>>
>> The beta version can be downloaded from:
>> <http://www.markspace.com/testing/>
>>
>> version 4.0.2 b5
>> ---------------------
>> -Fixed issue where conduit info may not be displayed correctly after
>> conduit is added or removed.
>> -Addressed issue with installing Tungsten T5 ROM update prematurely
>> resetting unit.
>> -Addressed various T5 issues with mounting and syncing.
>> -Various bug fixes.
>>
>> version 4.0.2 b4
>> ---------------------
>> -Issue 1733 - Pocket Quicken data file now properly displays in 
>> conduit
>> settings dialog when using Pocket Quicken 2.03 or later.
>> -Sync reminder no longer appears while syncing.
>> -Registration information is now written to /Library/Preferences when
>> application is registered not from the installer. If the user does not
>> have admin privs, authorization is required to write out the proper
>> information.
>> -Issue 2024 - Fixed issue sending down database list to conduits;
>> affecting Contacts conduits as well as others based on Generic Conduit
>> Framework.
>> -Issue 2025 - iSync and Entourage conduit conflicts are now detected.
>>   -Issue 2026 - Package name changed to Missing Sync Installer.pkg
>> -Issue 2027 - Fixed issues syncing while Classic is running
>> -Added ability to defer registration in case user is not connected to
>> Internet when first installing.
>>   -Issue 2029 - Updated version number in localized readmes
>> -Fixed issue dealing with incorrect conduit conflicts
>> -Addressed issue where conduit list may not properly update after
>> adding a conduit that conflicts with another conduit.
>> -Added code to prevent Missing Sync from crashing when conduits access
>> the Sync Manager on more than one thread (this is not permitted
>> according to the conduit developer documentation).
>> -Fixed crash when dragging items from handheld to card or vice versa
>> and then quitting.
>> ---------------------
>> version 4.0.2 b3
>>
>> -Issue 1846 - Fixed issue with Oracles conduits freezing user 
>> interface
>> when attempting to configure them.
>> -Issue 1894 - Palm mounting driver now honors write protect flag and
>> correctly reports it.
>> -Registering during the install process now registers the application
>> for all OS X users.
>> -Registration of application is now handled in installer.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 22:16:46 +0100
> From: albie <albie1@mac.com>
> Subject: Re: [missing-sync-palmos-talk]	Missing Sync for Palm OS 4.0.2
> 	beta 6	now available
> To: "The Missing Sync (Mac/Palm OS) Discussion List"
> 	<missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com>
> Message-ID: <805F0306-2D14-11D9-AD7B-000D93AE4C02@mac.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>
> Downloaded 4.0.2b5, installed, restarted, attempted to sync three
> times, three times totally unsuccessful (iSync no response), had to
> force quit Missing Sync each time, uninstalled 4.0.2b5, reinstalled
> 4.0.2b3, and everything is back to working fine again. An exercise of
> 45 mins in all. Will wait for next beta :-).
>
> On Nov 2, 2004, at 8:24 PM, Scott Gruby wrote:
>
>> Mark/Space, Inc. is pleased to announce The Missing Sync for Palm OS
>> 4.0.2 beta 5. This version is being made available to registered users
>> for testing various fixes. Please note that since this is a beta
>> version, it has not been fully tested. We recommend you backup your
>> data prior to installing. If you have issues with this version, you
>> may have to revert to the shipping version. However, if you have any
>> problems with the current shipping version, you are encouraged to try
>> this beta version.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 16:27:52 -0500
> From: Pascal Lessard <plessard@mac.com>
> Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] 	Why do we have to restart after
> 	installing Missing Sync ?
> To: "The Missing Sync (Mac/Palm OS) Discussion List"
> 	<missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com>
> Message-ID: <0D7CCE37-2D16-11D9-A279-0003934B11F0@mac.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>
> Hi !
>
> 	Is it absolutely necessary to force a restart after installing Missing
> Sync ? Why isn't a simple logout/log back in enough ? This is so "Mac
> OS 9" ! ;-)
>
> 	Yours,
>
> 				Pascal
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 16:35:34 -0500
> From: Jonathan Greene <atmasphere@atmasphere.net>
> Subject: Re: [missing-sync-palmos-talk]  Missing Sync for Palm OS
> 	4.0.2 beta 6	now available
> To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Palm OS\) Discussion List"
> 	<missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com>
> Message-ID: <20E00A6C-2D17-11D9-A15D-000A95C47866@atmasphere.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>
> I can' get my profiles to work.  I can sync, but I can't choose between
> the few setups I have.
>
>
> On Nov 2, 2004, at 2:24 PM, Scott Gruby wrote:
>
>> Mark/Space, Inc. is pleased to announce The Missing Sync for Palm OS
>> 4.0.2 beta 5. This version is being made available to registered users
>> for testing various fixes. Please note that since this is a beta
>> version, it has not been fully tested. We recommend you backup your
>> data prior to installing. If you have issues with this version, you
>> may have to revert to the shipping version. However, if you have any
>> problems with the current shipping version, you are encouraged to try
>> this beta version.
>>
>> Please check:
>> <http://www.markspace.com/missingsync_palmos_conduits.html> for status
>> of various conduits as this release fixes issues with many conduits.
>>
>> Please note: Epocrates and Chronos Group Organizer are not supported;
>> we are waiting on the conduit developers to update their conduits.
>>
>>
>> The beta version can be downloaded from:
>> <http://www.markspace.com/testing/>
>>
>> version 4.0.2 b5
>> ---------------------
>> -Fixed issue where conduit info may not be displayed correctly after
>> conduit is added or removed.
>> -Addressed issue with installing Tungsten T5 ROM update prematurely
>> resetting unit.
>> -Addressed various T5 issues with mounting and syncing.
>> -Various bug fixes.
>>
>> version 4.0.2 b4
>> ---------------------
>> -Issue 1733 - Pocket Quicken data file now properly displays in
>> conduit settings dialog when using Pocket Quicken 2.03 or later.
>> -Sync reminder no longer appears while syncing.
>> -Registration information is now written to /Library/Preferences when
>> application is registered not from the installer. If the user does not
>> have admin privs, authorization is required to write out the proper
>> information.
>> -Issue 2024 - Fixed issue sending down database list to conduits;
>> affecting Contacts conduits as well as others based on Generic Conduit
>> Framework.
>> -Issue 2025 - iSync and Entourage conduit conflicts are now detected.
>>  -Issue 2026 - Package name changed to Missing Sync Installer.pkg
>> -Issue 2027 - Fixed issues syncing while Classic is running
>> -Added ability to defer registration in case user is not connected to
>> Internet when first installing.
>>  -Issue 2029 - Updated version number in localized readmes
>> -Fixed issue dealing with incorrect conduit conflicts
>> -Addressed issue where conduit list may not properly update after
>> adding a conduit that conflicts with another conduit.
>> -Added code to prevent Missing Sync from crashing when conduits access
>> the Sync Manager on more than one thread (this is not permitted
>> according to the conduit developer documentation).
>> -Fixed crash when dragging items from handheld to card or vice versa
>> and then quitting.
>> ---------------------
>> version 4.0.2 b3
>>
>> -Issue 1846 - Fixed issue with Oracles conduits freezing user
>> interface when attempting to configure them.
>> -Issue 1894 - Palm mounting driver now honors write protect flag and
>> correctly reports it.
>> -Registering during the install process now registers the application
>> for all OS X users.
>> -Registration of application is now handled in installer.
>>
>> version 4.0.2 b2
>> ---------------------
>> -Issue 1967 - Addressed performance issues
>>
>> version 4.0.2 b1
>> ---------------------
>> -Issue 1926 - Fixed issue with airline conduits (United, Alaska, AA)
>> -Issue 2005, if the conduit conflict dialog appears and there is no
>> disabled conduits folder, the conduit(s) that is disabled will be
>> renamed Disabled Conduits
>> -Fixed issue where some conduits that didn't have a ConfigureConduit
>> entry point weren't being loaded.
>> -Fixed issue where Find (in log) was not available after syncing
>> -Issue 2008 - Fixed crash when cancelling out of registration that was
>> initiated by a HotSync
>> -Issue 2009 - Fixed issue where conduits based on Generic Conduit
>> Framework could crash if requested databases did not exist on
>> handheld.
>> -Fixed issue where wrong databases were being presented to conduits
>> that had applications installed in RAM.
>> -Issue 2011 - Addressed issue where switching handheld users multiple
>> times could confuse application.
>> -When an update is available, visit website now takes the user to
>> http://www.markspace.com/downloads.html
>> -When small window is visible, window name now appears in Windows menu
>> -Fixed issue where conduits that used slWarning for log messages were
>> incorrectly causing the sync to not complete (the error was bogus). A
>> different dialog is now presented to the user indicating that there
>> are log messages.
>> -When a read such as SyncReadRecordByIndex fails, the m_pBytes member
>> is no longer set to nil.l
>> -Addressed issue with Chronos Group Organizer hanging while syncing.
>> -When a read such as SyncReadRecordByIndex fails, the m_pBytes member
>> is no longer set to nil. (Addressed issues with Now Up To Date
>> conduit).
>> -Fixed issues with various conduits; please check Supported Conduits
>> for updated list of supported conduits.
>>
>> --
>> Scott Gruby
>> Lead Engineer, Missing Sync for Palm OS
>> Mark/Space, Inc.
>> <http://www.markspace.com/>
>>
>> Please contact support@markspace.com for assistance with Mark/Space
>> products.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 13:47:57 -0800
> From: Scott Gruby <sgruby@markspace.com>
> Subject: Re: [missing-sync-palmos-talk]  Missing Sync for Palm OS
> 	4.0.2 beta 6	now available
> To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Palm OS\) Discussion List"
> 	<missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com>
> Message-ID: <DBAF97F2-2D18-11D9-B8BE-000D932F4F94@markspace.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>
>
> On Nov 2, 2004, at 1:08 PM, W Yu wrote:
>
>> Not good. Not good at all!
>>
>> Installed 4.0.2b5 over the previous 4.0.2b3 in OS X 10.3.5. Reviewed
>> all
>> settings and attempted to hotsync. Initially a dialogue box would come
>> up
>> asking for Keychain access permission and the progress window would
>> pop out.
>> Then it's just wait and wait and wait. I can see that there's a slow
>> stream
>> of slow but continuous HD activities (in and out), but there's no real
>> progress in the progress bar. Eventually my Palm (T2) would abandon 
>> its
>> communication attempt and shuts down. MS on the Mac would need a force
>> quit
>> to stop.
>>
>> On subsequent attempts, the keychain dialogue would no longer appear,
>> but
>> the progress bar just spins and spins.
>>
>> Any comments?
>>
>
> Please visit:
> <http://www.markspace.com/support/emailsupport_mspalm_beta.html> and
> fill out a bug report. In your bug report, include (at least) the
> following:
>
> - Sync log
> - Complete list of conduits you are using and versions
> - OS version
>
>
> Unfortunately your report is too incomplete for us to determine the
> issue. If you submit feedback and work with support on reproducing the
> issue, it will get submitted to engineering to resolve.
>
> --
> Scott Gruby
> Lead Engineer, Missing Sync for Palm OS
> Mark/Space, Inc.
> <http://www.markspace.com/>
>
> Please contact support@markspace.com for assistance with Mark/Space
> products.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list
> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com
> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk
>
>
> End of missing-sync-palmos-talk Digest, Vol 18, Issue 5
> *******************************************************
>

From chrisridd at mac.com  Tue Nov  2 22:39:28 2004
From: chrisridd at mac.com (Chris Ridd)
Date: Tue Nov  2 14:39:37 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Why do we have to restart after
 installing Missing Sync ?
In-Reply-To: <0D7CCE37-2D16-11D9-A279-0003934B11F0@mac.com>
Message-ID: <BDADBD20.5B558%chrisridd@mac.com>

On 2/11/04 9:27 pm, Pascal Lessard <plessard@mac.com> wrote:

> Hi !
> 
> Is it absolutely necessary to force a restart after installing Missing
> Sync ? Why isn't a simple logout/log back in enough ? This is so "Mac
> OS 9" ! ;-)

LOL.

Missing Sync installs some kernel extensions (check
/System/Library/Extensions). You should be able to unload the old ones and
load in the new ones automatically, but I guess it is hard to make the
installer do this (reliably?)

Rebooting sucks :-(

Cheers,

Chris


From sgruby at markspace.com  Tue Nov  2 14:47:42 2004
From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby)
Date: Tue Nov  2 14:48:02 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk]  Missing Sync for Palm OS 4.0.2 beta 6
	now available
In-Reply-To: <20E00A6C-2D17-11D9-A15D-000A95C47866@atmasphere.net>
References: <D66E1AC0-2D04-11D9-B8BE-000D932F4F94@markspace.com>
	<20E00A6C-2D17-11D9-A15D-000A95C47866@atmasphere.net>
Message-ID: <34AF3620-2D21-11D9-B8BE-000D932F4F94@markspace.com>


On Nov 2, 2004, at 1:35 PM, Jonathan Greene wrote:

> I can' get my profiles to work.  I can sync, but I can't choose 
> between the few setups I have.
>
>

What happens when you try to select a new profile?
What conduits do you have installed?
How many profiles do you have?
Have you tried removing all your profiles and rebuilding them?
How are you changing profiles? In the application (small or large 
window) or from the menu bar status?
Is there anything in Console (launch the console app) that looks 
relevant?
What OS version are you running?
What version of Missing Sync were you running before installing the 
beta?

--
Scott Gruby
Lead Engineer, Missing Sync for Palm OS
Mark/Space, Inc.
<http://www.markspace.com/>

Please contact support@markspace.com for assistance with Mark/Space 
products.

From mail at wlinkw.com  Wed Nov  3 09:52:34 2004
From: mail at wlinkw.com (W Yu)
Date: Tue Nov  2 14:52:42 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk]  Missing Sync for Palm OS 4.0.2
 beta 6 now available
In-Reply-To: <DBAF97F2-2D18-11D9-B8BE-000D932F4F94@markspace.com>
Message-ID: <BDAE5AE2.CCE9%mail@wlinkw.com>

Scott Gruby at sgruby@markspace.com wrote on 03/11/04 08:47:

> On Nov 2, 2004, at 1:08 PM, W Yu wrote:
> 
>> Not good. Not good at all!
>> 
>> Installed 4.0.2b5 over the previous 4.0.2b3 in OS X 10.3.5. Reviewed
>> all
>> settings and attempted to hotsync. Initially a dialogue box would come
>> up
>> asking for Keychain access permission and the progress window would
>> pop out.
>> Then it's just wait and wait and wait. I can see that there's a slow
>> stream
>> of slow but continuous HD activities (in and out), but there's no real
>> progress in the progress bar. Eventually my Palm (T2) would abandon its
>> communication attempt and shuts down. MS on the Mac would need a force
>> quit
>> to stop.
>> 
>> On subsequent attempts, the keychain dialogue would no longer appear,
>> but
>> the progress bar just spins and spins.

> Please visit: 
> <http://www.markspace.com/support/emailsupport_mspalm_beta.html> and
> fill out a bug report. In your bug report, include (at least) the
> following:
> 
> - Sync log
> - Complete list of conduits you are using and versions
> - OS version
> 
> 
> Unfortunately your report is too incomplete for us to determine the
> issue. If you submit feedback and work with support on reproducing the
> issue, it will get submitted to engineering to resolve.

Will do. This email was just a quick response to the group. And it would
appear that at least one other has similar problems.

One other thing I noted. Is the present beta release b6 or b5? The web site
only has b5 but your email stated to be b6. I haven't noticed until just
now.
-- 


From winb99 at yahoo.com  Tue Nov  2 17:03:27 2004
From: winb99 at yahoo.com (Win Barker)
Date: Tue Nov  2 15:03:28 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Error Installing Files
In-Reply-To: <7DBFEA99-2CE1-11D9-B8BE-000D932F4F94@markspace.com>
Message-ID: <BDAD6E5F.1550D%winb99@yahoo.com>

Sorry. I use a 500MHz iBook...no Bluetooth.

on 11/2/04 10:11 AM, Scott Gruby at sgruby@markspace.com wrote:

> 
> On Nov 2, 2004, at 3:21 AM, Win Barker wrote:
> 
>> I don't have an SD card, but was planning to purchase one. However, if
>> I
>> can't install any files, how can I use BackupMan or Right Back Up?
>> 
>> 
> 
> That's an interesting problem. If your Mac has Bluetooth, you can send
> the file over Bluetooth to your T3.
> --
> Scott Gruby
> Lead Engineer, Missing Sync for Palm OS
> Mark/Space, Inc.
> <http://www.markspace.com/>
> 
> Please contact support@markspace.com for assistance with Mark/Space
> products.
> 
> _______________________________________________
> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list
> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com
> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found
> at:
> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk


-- 
Win Barker
winb99@yahoo.com
Macintosh for Productivity, Linux for Development, Palm for Mobility and
Windows for Solitaire 

From sgruby at markspace.com  Tue Nov  2 15:16:12 2004
From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby)
Date: Tue Nov  2 15:16:32 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk]  Missing Sync for Palm OS 4.0.2 beta 6
	now available
In-Reply-To: <BDAE5AE2.CCE9%mail@wlinkw.com>
References: <BDAE5AE2.CCE9%mail@wlinkw.com>
Message-ID: <2FAF3E56-2D25-11D9-B8BE-000D932F4F94@markspace.com>


On Nov 2, 2004, at 2:52 PM, W Yu wrote:

> One other thing I noted. Is the present beta release b6 or b5? The web 
> site
> only has b5 but your email stated to be b6. I haven't noticed until 
> just
> now.
>

b5. I mistyped the subject.

--
Scott Gruby
Lead Engineer, Missing Sync for Palm OS
Mark/Space, Inc.
<http://www.markspace.com/>

Please contact support@markspace.com for assistance with Mark/Space 
products.

From brad at stop.mail-abuse.org  Wed Nov  3 00:17:21 2004
From: brad at stop.mail-abuse.org (Brad Knowles)
Date: Tue Nov  2 15:18:01 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Why do we have to restart
 after  installing Missing Sync ?
In-Reply-To: <BDADBD20.5B558%chrisridd@mac.com>
References: <BDADBD20.5B558%chrisridd@mac.com>
Message-ID: <p0600202cbdadc4bde638@[10.0.1.3]>

At 10:39 PM +0000 2004-11-02, Chris Ridd wrote:

>  Missing Sync installs some kernel extensions (check
>  /System/Library/Extensions). You should be able to unload the old ones and
>  load in the new ones automatically, but I guess it is hard to make the
>  installer do this (reliably?)

	Any time you start talking about kernel extensions, this sort of 
stuff gets nasty.  You can never be sure what other programs might be 
affected by the old kernel extensions when you try to unload them. 
You could very easily crash the machine, and potentially leave it in 
an unbootable state.

	Would you rather have that, or reboot?  Me, I'd choose to reboot.

-- 
Brad Knowles, <brad@stop.mail-abuse.org>

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little
temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

     -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania
     Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755

   SAGE member since 1995.  See <http://www.sage.org/> for more info.
From sgruby at markspace.com  Tue Nov  2 15:17:43 2004
From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby)
Date: Tue Nov  2 15:18:03 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk]  Missing Sync for Palm OS 4.0.2 beta 6
	now available
In-Reply-To: <20E00A6C-2D17-11D9-A15D-000A95C47866@atmasphere.net>
References: <D66E1AC0-2D04-11D9-B8BE-000D932F4F94@markspace.com>
	<20E00A6C-2D17-11D9-A15D-000A95C47866@atmasphere.net>
Message-ID: <6613426E-2D25-11D9-B8BE-000D932F4F94@markspace.com>


On Nov 2, 2004, at 1:35 PM, Jonathan Greene wrote:

> I can' get my profiles to work.  I can sync, but I can't choose 
> between the few setups I have.
>
>

I think we may have identified the issue. If any of your profiles had 
the MemoPad conduit in them, they will no longer work. The MemoPad 
conduit file name was changed in order to reduce confusion. The easiest 
way to fix this is to edit each profile, select the MemoPad conduit 
again and save the profile.

We will address this in b6. If this isn't your issue, please report a 
bug via the link on the testing page.

Thanks.

--
Scott Gruby
Lead Engineer, Missing Sync for Palm OS
Mark/Space, Inc.
<http://www.markspace.com/>

Please contact support@markspace.com for assistance with Mark/Space 
products.

From kfreeman at markspace.com  Tue Nov  2 16:00:00 2004
From: kfreeman at markspace.com (Ken Freeman)
Date: Tue Nov  2 16:00:04 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk]  Missing Sync for Palm OS 4.0.2
 beta 6 now available
In-Reply-To: <20E00A6C-2D17-11D9-A15D-000A95C47866@atmasphere.net>
Message-ID: <BDAD5F80.2E4F%kfreeman@markspace.com>

I've been able to duplicate this issue and will report it to Mark/Space
engineering. Thanks for reporting this.

Ken


On 11/2/04 1:35 PM, "Jonathan Greene" <atmasphere@atmasphere.net> wrote:

> I can' get my profiles to work.  I can sync, but I can't choose between
> the few setups I have.
> 
> 
> On Nov 2, 2004, at 2:24 PM, Scott Gruby wrote:
> 
>> Mark/Space, Inc. is pleased to announce The Missing Sync for Palm OS
>> 4.0.2 beta 5. This version is being made available to registered users
>> for testing various fixes. Please note that since this is a beta
>> version, it has not been fully tested. We recommend you backup your
>> data prior to installing. If you have issues with this version, you
>> may have to revert to the shipping version. However, if you have any
>> problems with the current shipping version, you are encouraged to try
>> this beta version.
>> 
>> Please check: 
>> <http://www.markspace.com/missingsync_palmos_conduits.html> for status
>> of various conduits as this release fixes issues with many conduits.
>> 
>> Please note: Epocrates and Chronos Group Organizer are not supported;
>> we are waiting on the conduit developers to update their conduits.
>> 
>> 
>> The beta version can be downloaded from:
>> <http://www.markspace.com/testing/>
>> 
>> version 4.0.2 b5
>> ---------------------
>> -Fixed issue where conduit info may not be displayed correctly after
>> conduit is added or removed.
>> -Addressed issue with installing Tungsten T5 ROM update prematurely
>> resetting unit.
>> -Addressed various T5 issues with mounting and syncing.
>> -Various bug fixes.
>> 
>> version 4.0.2 b4
>> ---------------------
>> -Issue 1733 - Pocket Quicken data file now properly displays in
>> conduit settings dialog when using Pocket Quicken 2.03 or later.
>> -Sync reminder no longer appears while syncing.
>> -Registration information is now written to /Library/Preferences when
>> application is registered not from the installer. If the user does not
>> have admin privs, authorization is required to write out the proper
>> information.
>> -Issue 2024 - Fixed issue sending down database list to conduits;
>> affecting Contacts conduits as well as others based on Generic Conduit
>> Framework.
>> -Issue 2025 - iSync and Entourage conduit conflicts are now detected.
>>  -Issue 2026 - Package name changed to Missing Sync Installer.pkg
>> -Issue 2027 - Fixed issues syncing while Classic is running
>> -Added ability to defer registration in case user is not connected to
>> Internet when first installing.
>>  -Issue 2029 - Updated version number in localized readmes
>> -Fixed issue dealing with incorrect conduit conflicts
>> -Addressed issue where conduit list may not properly update after
>> adding a conduit that conflicts with another conduit.
>> -Added code to prevent Missing Sync from crashing when conduits access
>> the Sync Manager on more than one thread (this is not permitted
>> according to the conduit developer documentation).
>> -Fixed crash when dragging items from handheld to card or vice versa
>> and then quitting.
>> ---------------------
>> version 4.0.2 b3
>> 
>> -Issue 1846 - Fixed issue with Oracles conduits freezing user
>> interface when attempting to configure them.
>> -Issue 1894 - Palm mounting driver now honors write protect flag and
>> correctly reports it.
>> -Registering during the install process now registers the application
>> for all OS X users.
>> -Registration of application is now handled in installer.
>> 
>> version 4.0.2 b2
>> ---------------------
>> -Issue 1967 - Addressed performance issues
>> 
>> version 4.0.2 b1
>> ---------------------
>> -Issue 1926 - Fixed issue with airline conduits (United, Alaska, AA)
>> -Issue 2005, if the conduit conflict dialog appears and there is no
>> disabled conduits folder, the conduit(s) that is disabled will be
>> renamed Disabled Conduits
>> -Fixed issue where some conduits that didn't have a ConfigureConduit
>> entry point weren't being loaded.
>> -Fixed issue where Find (in log) was not available after syncing
>> -Issue 2008 - Fixed crash when cancelling out of registration that was
>> initiated by a HotSync
>> -Issue 2009 - Fixed issue where conduits based on Generic Conduit
>> Framework could crash if requested databases did not exist on
>> handheld.
>> -Fixed issue where wrong databases were being presented to conduits
>> that had applications installed in RAM.
>> -Issue 2011 - Addressed issue where switching handheld users multiple
>> times could confuse application.
>> -When an update is available, visit website now takes the user to
>> http://www.markspace.com/downloads.html
>> -When small window is visible, window name now appears in Windows menu
>> -Fixed issue where conduits that used slWarning for log messages were
>> incorrectly causing the sync to not complete (the error was bogus). A
>> different dialog is now presented to the user indicating that there
>> are log messages.
>> -When a read such as SyncReadRecordByIndex fails, the m_pBytes member
>> is no longer set to nil.l
>> -Addressed issue with Chronos Group Organizer hanging while syncing.
>> -When a read such as SyncReadRecordByIndex fails, the m_pBytes member
>> is no longer set to nil. (Addressed issues with Now Up To Date
>> conduit).
>> -Fixed issues with various conduits; please check Supported Conduits
>> for updated list of supported conduits.
>> 
>> --
>> Scott Gruby
>> Lead Engineer, Missing Sync for Palm OS
>> Mark/Space, Inc.
>> <http://www.markspace.com/>
>> 
>> Please contact support@markspace.com for assistance with Mark/Space
>> products.
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list
>> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com
>> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can
>> be found at:
>> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk
>> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com
> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found
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From amcutting at yahoo.co.uk  Wed Nov  3 00:18:18 2004
From: amcutting at yahoo.co.uk (Alastair Cutting)
Date: Tue Nov  2 16:18:23 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Error Installing Files
In-Reply-To: <BDAD6E5F.1550D%winb99@yahoo.com>
References: <BDAD6E5F.1550D%winb99@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <DD063790-2D2D-11D9-9E25-000393ABC616@yahoo.co.uk>

No Bluetooth? Then do try the D-Link bluetooth dongle. Its firmware can 
be through the MacOs - and you must check out Salling Clicker! 
http://homepage.mac.com/jonassalling/Shareware/Clicker/index.html

Alastair


On 2 Nov 2004, at 22:03, Win Barker wrote:

> Sorry. I use a 500MHz iBook...no Bluetooth.
>
> on 11/2/04 10:11 AM, Scott Gruby at sgruby@markspace.com wrote:
>
>>
>> On Nov 2, 2004, at 3:21 AM, Win Barker wrote:
>>
>>> I don't have an SD card, but was planning to purchase one. However, 
>>> if
>>> I
>>> can't install any files, how can I use BackupMan or Right Back Up?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> That's an interesting problem. If your Mac has Bluetooth, you can send
>> the file over Bluetooth to your T3.
>> --
>> Scott Gruby
>> Lead Engineer, Missing Sync for Palm OS
>> Mark/Space, Inc.
>> <http://www.markspace.com/>
>>
>> Please contact support@markspace.com for assistance with Mark/Space
>> products.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list
>> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com
>> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can 
>> be found
>> at:
>> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk
>
>
> -- 
> Win Barker
> winb99@yahoo.com
> Macintosh for Productivity, Linux for Development, Palm for Mobility 
> and
> Windows for Solitaire
>
> _______________________________________________
> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list
> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com
> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can 
> be found at:
> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk
>

From hacker at gnu-designs.com  Tue Nov  2 19:58:16 2004
From: hacker at gnu-designs.com (David A. Desrosiers)
Date: Tue Nov  2 16:59:12 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk]
In-Reply-To: <240EF27C-2D1F-11D9-ADC4-000D9368D466@earthlink.net>
References: <200411022229.iA2MTfSE010544@penguin.markspace.com>
 <240EF27C-2D1F-11D9-ADC4-000D9368D466@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0411021957410.7040@aphrodite.gnu-designs.com>


> remove

 	A 25k message for a one-word reply. Brilliant!

From plessard at mac.com  Tue Nov  2 20:07:20 2004
From: plessard at mac.com (Pascal Lessard)
Date: Tue Nov  2 17:07:25 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Why do we have to restart after
	installing Missing Sync ?
In-Reply-To: <p0600202cbdadc4bde638@[10.0.1.3]>
References: <BDADBD20.5B558%chrisridd@mac.com>
	<p0600202cbdadc4bde638@[10.0.1.3]>
Message-ID: <B66260BE-2D34-11D9-8410-0003934B11F0@mac.com>

Hi !

	I had asked :

> 	Is it absolutely necessary to force a restart after installing 
> Missing Sync ? Why isn't a simple logout/log back in enough ? This is 
> so "Mac OS 9" ! ;-)

	To which question Scott Gruby answered :

>> The restart is necessary mainly when upgrading (either from Missing 
>> Sync or Palm Desktop) so that the new components are used by all 
>> applications. There is really no way for us to know what other 
>> programs are using our components so we can't just shut them down. By 
>> restarting, we ensure that all applications will be using the new 
>> components. While I agree that it would be better if a restart was 
>> not necessary, unfortunately this is the only way for things to work 
>> smoothly. (The components that I'm referring to in particular are our 
>> kernel extension for mounting, our framework and CFM Shared Library 
>> needed for conduits and applications to talk to our software.)

	While Chris Ridd said :

>>  Missing Sync installs some kernel extensions (check
>>  /System/Library/Extensions). You should be able to unload the old 
>> ones and load in the new ones automatically, but I guess it is hard 
>> to make the installer do this (reliably?)

	And finally Brad Knowles added :

>> Any time you start talking about kernel extensions, this sort of 
>> stuff gets nasty.  You can never be sure what other programs might be 
>> affected by the old kernel extensions when you try to unload them. 
>> You could very easily crash the machine, and potentially leave it in 
>> an unbootable state.
>>
>> 	Would you rather have that, or reboot?  Me, I'd choose to reboot.

	Thank you Brad, Chris and Scott for your explanations on this matter. 
I'll be less annoyed now that I understand why !

	Yours,

				Pascal Lessard

+---------------------------------------------------------------------+
"... there is nothing more difficult to take in hand, more perilous to
conduct or more uncertain in its success than to take the lead in the
introduction of a new order of things..."
- Machiavelli
+---------------------------------------------------------------------+

From atmasphere at atmasphere.net  Tue Nov  2 21:00:56 2004
From: atmasphere at atmasphere.net (Jonathan Greene)
Date: Tue Nov  2 18:01:00 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk]  Missing Sync for Palm OS 4.0.2 beta 6
	now available
In-Reply-To: <6613426E-2D25-11D9-B8BE-000D932F4F94@markspace.com>
References: <D66E1AC0-2D04-11D9-B8BE-000D932F4F94@markspace.com>
	<20E00A6C-2D17-11D9-A15D-000A95C47866@atmasphere.net>
	<6613426E-2D25-11D9-B8BE-000D932F4F94@markspace.com>
Message-ID: <33627970-2D3C-11D9-B995-000A95C47866@atmasphere.net>

That seems to have resolved my selection of profiles issue....


On Nov 2, 2004, at 6:17 PM, Scott Gruby wrote:

>
> On Nov 2, 2004, at 1:35 PM, Jonathan Greene wrote:
>
>> I can' get my profiles to work.  I can sync, but I can't choose 
>> between the few setups I have.
>>
>>
>
> I think we may have identified the issue. If any of your profiles had 
> the MemoPad conduit in them, they will no longer work. The MemoPad 
> conduit file name was changed in order to reduce confusion. The 
> easiest way to fix this is to edit each profile, select the MemoPad 
> conduit again and save the profile.
>
> We will address this in b6. If this isn't your issue, please report a 
> bug via the link on the testing page.
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
> Scott Gruby
> Lead Engineer, Missing Sync for Palm OS
> Mark/Space, Inc.
> <http://www.markspace.com/>
>
> Please contact support@markspace.com for assistance with Mark/Space 
> products.
>
> _______________________________________________
> missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list
> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com
> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can 
> be found at:
> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk
>

From gary at frontierflying.com  Tue Nov  2 17:50:03 2004
From: gary at frontierflying.com (Gary Pedretty)
Date: Tue Nov  2 18:50:11 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Kyocera 7135
Message-ID: <10030E61-2D43-11D9-9427-000393B2B596@frontierflying.com>

Anyone else having problems getting an SD memory card to mount on a 
Kyocera 7135?  Won't mount automatically or via the Missing Sync module 
connect button.  No problem syncing or installing items to the SD card 
or even backing it up, just won't mount on the desktop.  I tried the 
4.0.2 beta 3 and it made no difference, but did break my Personal 
Organizer conduit, so I went back to 4.0.1 v23

Gary


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From sgruby at markspace.com  Tue Nov  2 22:04:39 2004
From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby)
Date: Tue Nov  2 22:05:07 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Kyocera 7135
In-Reply-To: <10030E61-2D43-11D9-9427-000393B2B596@frontierflying.com>
References: <10030E61-2D43-11D9-9427-000393B2B596@frontierflying.com>
Message-ID: <3F6088B7-2D5E-11D9-B8BE-000D932F4F94@markspace.com>


On Nov 2, 2004, at 6:50 PM, Gary Pedretty wrote:

> Anyone else having problems getting an SD memory card to mount on a 
> Kyocera 7135?  Won't mount automatically or via the Missing Sync 
> module connect button.  No problem syncing or installing items to the 
> SD card or even backing it up, just won't mount on the desktop.  I 
> tried the 4.0.2 beta 3 and it made no difference, but did break my 
> Personal Organizer conduit, so I went back to 4.0.1 v23
>

Due to flaws in the USB implementation of the Kyocera 7135, card 
mounting is not supported on that device. However, contact our support 
people and they may be able to help.

--
Scott Gruby
Lead Engineer, Missing Sync for Palm OS
Mark/Space, Inc.
<http://www.markspace.com/>

Please contact support@markspace.com for assistance with Mark/Space 
products.

From henryseiden at bellsouth.net  Wed Nov  3 11:55:43 2004
From: henryseiden at bellsouth.net (Henry M. Seiden)
Date: Wed Nov  3 08:57:11 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] iSync with multiple computers
Message-ID: <3346BFCB-2DB9-11D9-B044-000393B3C6A2@bellsouth.net>

HI,
I am researching using iSync, AddressBook, iCal in place of the Palm 
4.2.1 desktop on both of MAC- a desktop  and a laptop (work and less 
work respectively). I found an Apple Support document that makes me a 
bit uncomfortable and I wonder if the list csn comment?

The Apple Support Doc #151053 and it states that multiple machines 
using iSync should _not_ be used to sync to Palm devices as they will 
"not transfer data" reliably!?!

My portable handheld device is a Cli? NX73, made by notably a 
not-MAC-friendly company (Sony). It's not too unusual that they're not 
friendly as they compete in several different arenas- Sony is heavily 
wedded to M$.

Here is the full text.
http://www.docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=151053

Does Missing Sync change that reality? Why, or why not? I have bought 
the latest Missing Sync and while I understand some of the 
short-comings and benefits, I'm unsure if this will (ever?) fit my 
needs, as it doesn't now.

Here are the issues of importance to me with whichever desktop, sync 
solution used:
1. Data integrity (not real good with HotSync now).
2. Mac based (Palm requires a Missing Sync) solution. Apple has clearly 
stated incompatibilities with multiple desktop solutions. Compatibility 
between two Mac desktops is an absolute requirement.
4. All my conduits and data backed up each time. Some conduits and 
databases fail with Missing Sync/iSync now. A failure occurs after 
syncing Fitaly keyboard (FV Setup), for example. Others have been 
noted.
5. In this period of transition to some new Palm OS (5,6?), and many 
new devices- how will OS4 compatibility be assured?


From sdevore at gmail.com  Wed Nov  3 10:17:06 2004
From: sdevore at gmail.com (Samuel DeVore)
Date: Wed Nov  3 09:17:11 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] 
	sing Sync for Palm OS 4.0.2 beta 6 (actually 5)
In-Reply-To: <200411030107.iA317GSF015660@penguin.markspace.com>
References: <200411030107.iA317GSF015660@penguin.markspace.com>
Message-ID: <3871ead104110309173a47bc1e@mail.gmail.com>

I have installed this on my machine (TiBook 500 running Mac OS 10.3.5)
and am now unable to sync with my Palm m130.
What I did: 
1. Installed beta from page
2. Restarted machine
3. Inserted Palm in cradle
4. Pressed sync button on cradle
What I expected to happen:
1. Missing sync would launch
2. Sync would start
3. iSync would launch and do it's thing
4. missing sync would complete it's thing
What actually happened:
1. missing sync launched
2. two barber poles began to spin in the metal window that opens
3. there is no number three that is all that happened.

sam d
From sgruby at markspace.com  Wed Nov  3 09:22:08 2004
From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby)
Date: Wed Nov  3 09:23:00 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk]  sing Sync for Palm OS 4.0.2 beta 6
	(actually 5)
In-Reply-To: <3871ead104110309173a47bc1e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200411030107.iA317GSF015660@penguin.markspace.com>
	<3871ead104110309173a47bc1e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E3EE6883-2DBC-11D9-B8BE-000D932F4F94@markspace.com>


On Nov 3, 2004, at 9:17 AM, Samuel DeVore wrote:

> I have installed this on my machine (TiBook 500 running Mac OS 10.3.5)
> and am now unable to sync with my Palm m130.
> What I did:
> 1. Installed beta from page
> 2. Restarted machine
> 3. Inserted Palm in cradle
> 4. Pressed sync button on cradle
> What I expected to happen:
> 1. Missing sync would launch
> 2. Sync would start
> 3. iSync would launch and do it's thing
> 4. missing sync would complete it's thing
> What actually happened:
> 1. missing sync launched
> 2. two barber poles began to spin in the metal window that opens
> 3. there is no number three that is all that happened.
>
>

Please visit: 
<http://www.markspace.com/support/emailsupport_mspalm_beta.html> and 
fill out a bug report. In your bug report, include (at least) the 
following:

- Sync log
- Complete list of conduits you are using and versions
- OS version


Unfortunately your report is too incomplete for us to determine the 
issue. If you submit feedback and work with support on reproducing the 
issue, it will get submitted to engineering to resolve.

We can't fix issues if they're not reported to us, so waiting for the 
next beta may not help. We put out the public betas to get feedback so 
that we can address issues.


--
Scott Gruby
Lead Engineer, Missing Sync for Palm OS
Mark/Space, Inc.
<http://www.markspace.com/>

Please contact support@markspace.com for assistance with Mark/Space 
products.

From mail at wlinkw.com  Thu Nov  4 07:14:22 2004
From: mail at wlinkw.com (W Yu)
Date: Wed Nov  3 12:14:52 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk]  sing Sync for Palm OS 4.0.2 beta
 6 (actually 5)
In-Reply-To: <3871ead104110309173a47bc1e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BDAF874E.CD87%mail@wlinkw.com>

Samuel DeVore at sdevore@gmail.com wrote on 04/11/04 04:17:

> I have installed this on my machine (TiBook 500 running Mac OS 10.3.5)
> and am now unable to sync with my Palm m130.
> What I did: 
> 1. Installed beta from page
> 2. Restarted machine
> 3. Inserted Palm in cradle
> 4. Pressed sync button on cradle
> What I expected to happen:
> 1. Missing sync would launch
> 2. Sync would start
> 3. iSync would launch and do it's thing
> 4. missing sync would complete it's thing
> What actually happened:
> 1. missing sync launched
> 2. two barber poles began to spin in the metal window that opens
> 3. there is no number three that is all that happened.

I have exactly the same experience, although at the very very first sync
after installing b5, a dialogue box came up requesting Keychain access. But
after that, it's as per your description.

I've already reported this on this board and submitted a bug report. Since,
I have received a response stating that they could not reproduce the problem
and will need more data. It may be worthwhile doing the following on your
installation also (per Scott's instruction):

> We have been unable to reproduce your issue. Please do the following:
> 
> 1. Send a complete list of all conduits that you are using (a screenshot is
> fine)
> 1a. Send the complete sync log.
> 2. While in Missing Sync, press Command-option-shift-D.
> 3. Select "Turn on logging" and "Log packets". Click OK.
> 4. Sync again.
> 5. In ~/Library/Logs, send the file MissingSyncLog.txt to us.
> 
> After you are done, uncheck those log settings.

-- 


From sgruby at markspace.com  Wed Nov  3 12:27:58 2004
From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby)
Date: Wed Nov  3 12:28:19 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk]  sing Sync for Palm OS 4.0.2 beta 6
	(actually 5)
In-Reply-To: <BDAF874E.CD87%mail@wlinkw.com>
References: <BDAF874E.CD87%mail@wlinkw.com>
Message-ID: <D9C434F2-2DD6-11D9-B8BE-000D932F4F94@markspace.com>


On Nov 3, 2004, at 12:14 PM, W Yu wrote:

> Samuel DeVore at sdevore@gmail.com wrote on 04/11/04 04:17:
>
>> I have installed this on my machine (TiBook 500 running Mac OS 10.3.5)
>> and am now unable to sync with my Palm m130.
>> What I did:
>> 1. Installed beta from page
>> 2. Restarted machine
>> 3. Inserted Palm in cradle
>> 4. Pressed sync button on cradle
>> What I expected to happen:
>> 1. Missing sync would launch
>> 2. Sync would start
>> 3. iSync would launch and do it's thing
>> 4. missing sync would complete it's thing
>> What actually happened:
>> 1. missing sync launched
>> 2. two barber poles began to spin in the metal window that opens
>> 3. there is no number three that is all that happened.
>
> I have exactly the same experience, although at the very very first 
> sync
> after installing b5, a dialogue box came up requesting Keychain 
> access. But
> after that, it's as per your description.
>
> I've already reported this on this board and submitted a bug report. 
> Since,
> I have received a response stating that they could not reproduce the 
> problem
> and will need more data. It may be worthwhile doing the following on 
> your
> installation also (per Scott's instruction):
>

After re-reading your description and reviewing several logs, it 
appears that you may have a password assigned to your device. Is that 
correct? If so, you might want to try disabling the password and sync 
again.

--
Scott Gruby
Lead Engineer, Missing Sync for Palm OS
Mark/Space, Inc.
<http://www.markspace.com/>

Please contact support@markspace.com for assistance with Mark/Space 
products.

From mail at wlinkw.com  Thu Nov  4 07:51:39 2004
From: mail at wlinkw.com (W Yu)
Date: Wed Nov  3 12:51:56 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk]  sing Sync for Palm OS 4.0.2 beta
 6 (actually 5)
In-Reply-To: <D9C434F2-2DD6-11D9-B8BE-000D932F4F94@markspace.com>
Message-ID: <BDAF900B.CD92%mail@wlinkw.com>

Scott Gruby at sgruby@markspace.com wrote on 04/11/04