From hcaley at plasmabat.com Fri Mar 19 09:55:59 2004 From: hcaley at plasmabat.com (Hugh Caley) Date: Fri Mar 19 09:56:02 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] iPhoto and Treo 600 Message-ID: I hadn't heard of iTreo! Very helpful, thank you. Hugh > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 18:25:18 -0800 > From: Brian Hall > Subject: Re: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] iPhoto and Treo 600 > To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Palm OS\) Discussion List" > > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > At 6:16 PM -0800 3/18/04, Hugh Caley wrote: >> Will Missing Sync for Palm OS ever be able to move pictures from the >> Treo 600 to iPhoto? > > It doesn't include that feature now, but that doesn't mean that we > won't > ever do it. For the moment you could either take pictures to the card, > or > copy pictures to the card, then from the card to iPhoto (via a card > reader > or the Missing Sync desktop mounting feature) > >> There currently is no application to do this, and >> given Palm's attitude towards Mac support I doubt there will be now. > > There is an app out there, see iTreo (search on versiontracker to find > it). > > Brian > -- "Take off you pants and get in the reptile tank" - Joe Rogan, FEAR FACTOR Hugh Caley hcaley@plasmabat.com From spons at swbell.net Sat Mar 20 15:41:45 2004 From: spons at swbell.net (Mark Sponsler) Date: Sat Mar 20 15:41:48 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: PD 4.1 + T3 = OK Panther10.3.3 In-Reply-To: <200403181700.i2IH0SCM027304@penguin.markspace.com> Message-ID: <20040320234145.32386.qmail@web80404.mail.yahoo.com> Arkady, Don't make the same mistake I did. Avoid Now Up to Date. PowerOn Software's initials are P.O.S. for a reason. Stick with Palm Desktop if you need something simple (the price is right any way). If you need something more sophisticated try Marketcircle's Daylite. It's great. If you are in sales, you'll be glad you made the switch. Mark --- missing-sync-palmos-talk-request@lists.markspace.com wrote: > Send missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > submissions to > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, > visit > > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > or, via email, send a message with subject or body > 'help' to > > missing-sync-palmos-talk-request@lists.markspace.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > missing-sync-palmos-talk-owner@lists.markspace.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it > is more specific > than "Re: Contents of missing-sync-palmos-talk > digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. PD 4.1 + T3 = OK Panther10.3.3 (Arkady) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 13:33:04 -0500 > From: Arkady > Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] PD 4.1 + T3 = > OK Panther10.3.3 > To: Missing Link List > > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" > > Hey Brian, > > Just to let yall know, I just upgraded from Panther > 10.3.2. to 10.3.3 > > My Palm Desktop 4.1. is still working, and it > HotSyncs FINE with my Tungsten > T3. Eventually I'll probably switch to Now Up To > Date for my PIM. In the > perfect world, I'd prefer to stick with this set up. > Hopefully Apple OS's > won't break it for years. By that time, maybe PIM > folks will give me a Phone > Dialer feature which PD had for years now. > > When my T3 dies, I'll get a Cobalt PDA. Hopefully > transferring my PD data to > Now, or whatever, won't be a mess. iCal doesn't do > Memo's ala PD... as of > now... > > Thank GOD you guys are here to save the day! > > • Arkady > web site: http://www.arkady.com > > > From: > missing-sync-palmos-talk-request@lists.markspace.com > > Reply-To: > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > > Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 09:04:06 -0800 > > To: missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > > Subject: missing-sync-palmos-talk Digest, Vol 10, > Issue 7 > > > > This will be part of an upcoming project we > announced at the PalmSource > > conference last month. It is a full and total > replacement for Palm Desktop > > - see www.markspace.com/cobalt.html > > > > Brian > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > > > End of missing-sync-palmos-talk Digest, Vol 10, > Issue 8 > ******************************************************* From arkady1 at mac.com Sat Mar 20 20:45:50 2004 From: arkady1 at mac.com (Arkady) Date: Sat Mar 20 17:45:56 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: PD 4.1 > NUTD? In-Reply-To: <200403191704.i2JH3lCN009192@penguin.markspace.com> Message-ID: No, Jason. I re-read that post again, and you'll see this as being the context of my reply >>> Because we sync using the Palm Hotsync software and customized conduits, the >>> sync should be fairly seamless and comparable to the Palm Desktop Sync. We >>> do not currently support any Memo sync as there is no real equivalent module >>> in Now Up to Date and Contact. For a comparison of the products, you should >>> contact our sales department. >>> >>>> As to HotSync, do I need PD's HotSync, where I'd only need to replace a few >>>> Conduits with your Conduits? How would that work? Is there a Read Me >>>> somewhere? which stated -- Please let your developers know that if they don't have that feature, they won't be able to attract any of us Palm Desktop users. I.e. what are we supposed to do with our Palm Desktop Memos? NUTD should declare themselves as being fully committed to receive us, Palm Desktop "survivors"... with all pertinent compatibility issues solved, otherwise NUTD will lose a lot of us to its competitors. ---------------- I still don't understand how NUTD doesn't have Memo's-Note's feature!!! It seems so basic, that even PD had it, and PD was free:)! NUTD, is not free, so it should be offering more than PD, including Memo's-Note's feature!!! NUTD stands in a perfect position to pick up new customers, PD survivors! It would be insane if they don't create a seamless transition option for former PD users, who otherwise will have go to Entourage, etc. With this List, and other online forums, it should be pretty easy for NUTD to declare to it's perspective customers, PD survivors, that a good new home is awaiting PD users and their Data:).... ? Arkady web site: http://www.arkady.com > From: Jason Davies > Subject: Re: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: Now Software Support > Request Ticket ID 10837 > To: "The Missing Sync (Mac/Palm OS) Discussion List" > > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > >> Please let your developers know that if they don't have that feature, >> they won't be able to attract any of us Palm Desktop users. I.e. what >> are we supposed to do with our Palm Desktop Memos? > > do you mean syncing? Missing Sync will be doing this when they release > the new version. But they never claimed it could do that! For now we > have PD 4.1 but later in the year we will hav a choice (at last!) of > using MS... From jason at ophiochos.org.uk Sun Mar 21 02:17:17 2004 From: jason at ophiochos.org.uk (Jason Davies) Date: Sat Mar 20 18:17:23 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: PD 4.1 > NUTD? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >No, Jason. >I re-read that post again, and you'll see this as being the context of >my reply Well Arkady, if people don't include pertinent info in their messages, I don't see how I -or anyone else - is supposed to know what is being talked about. I'll remember not to bother posting next time without exhaustively searching all the archives for any potentially relevant information. Thanks for pointing out my error which no doubt caused untold confusion on the list. From arkady1 at mac.com Sun Mar 21 14:19:02 2004 From: arkady1 at mac.com (Arkady) Date: Sun Mar 21 11:19:07 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] re: PD 4.1 > NUTD? In-Reply-To: <200403211700.i2LH0aCN013809@penguin.markspace.com> Message-ID: Thanks everyone for your replies. Mark, You were obviously not very happy with NUTD. I think it would be of a great value to many if you told us in detail why you didn't like it. I also missed the joke (?) as far as P.O.S:) You can explain that one too, if you feel like it... As to PD, I am very used to it, and it simply works for me, but I don't want to wait till it stops working, which will eventually happen with one of the Mac OS Upgrades? I guess I could buy another T3 etc. as a backup for when my T3 dies. If I don't, I doubt if a Cobalt PDA will work with Panther 10.3.3 and PD 4.1, unless Missing Link says otherwise... As to your choice of http://www.marketcircle.com/daylite/overview.html I'd need to look into. $150 price is less scary to me then the fact that this company, product, might not make it, and become unsupported... Ironically, that was the reason that I stuck with PD, i.e. to feel safer by being closer to the "mother ship":)! Then the "mothers...." killed their (our) PD baby..., while the smaller (?) guys like NUTD etc. are still standing. I wish there was a comprehensive INDEPENDENT site for comparing PIM's, where one could see blow by blow features compared etc. This List is a good start, as far as making the transition... ? Arkady web site: http://www.arkady.com > From: missing-sync-palmos-talk-request@lists.markspace.com > Reply-To: missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 09:00:41 -0800 > To: missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Subject: missing-sync-palmos-talk Digest, Vol 10, Issue 11 > > Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 15:41:45 -0800 (PST) > From: Mark Sponsler > Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: PD 4.1 + T3 = OK > Panther10.3.3 > To: missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Message-ID: <20040320234145.32386.qmail@web80404.mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Arkady, > Don't make the same mistake I did. Avoid Now Up to > Date. PowerOn Software's initials are P.O.S. for a > reason. Stick with Palm Desktop if you need something > simple (the price is right any way). If you need > something more sophisticated try Marketcircle's > Daylite. It's great. If you are in sales, you'll be > glad you made the switch. > Mark From spons at swbell.net Mon Mar 22 12:44:58 2004 From: spons at swbell.net (Mark Sponsler) Date: Mon Mar 22 12:45:01 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: missing-sync-palmos-talk Digest, Vol 10, Issue 12 In-Reply-To: <200403221700.i2MH0OCM022536@penguin.markspace.com> Message-ID: <20040322204458.70375.qmail@web80406.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Arkady, If PD solves 90% or more of your problems, I'd stay with it. I'd be very surprised if it stopped working anytime soon. As for Cobalt, I have no knowledge except that if there's money to be made, folks like Markspace or Marketcircle will step in with something. Daylite is a great program. However, it may be overkill for you. POS=POC= piece of crap. It expresses my frustration with lack of support for a problem that many, but not all customers had with constant crashes and file corruption. It was a bug that apparently couldn't be reliably reproduced. And, since they refused to take a look at customer databases, the problem went unsolved. Thanks, Mark --- missing-sync-palmos-talk-request@lists.markspace.com wrote: > Send missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > submissions to > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, > visit > > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > or, via email, send a message with subject or body > 'help' to > > missing-sync-palmos-talk-request@lists.markspace.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > missing-sync-palmos-talk-owner@lists.markspace.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it > is more specific > than "Re: Contents of missing-sync-palmos-talk > digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. re: PD 4.1 > NUTD? (Arkady) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 14:19:02 -0500 > From: Arkady > Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] re: PD 4.1 > > NUTD? > To: Missing Link List > > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" > > Thanks everyone for your replies. > > Mark, > > You were obviously not very happy with NUTD. I think > it would be of a great > value to many if you told us in detail why you > didn't like it. I also missed > the joke (?) as far as P.O.S:) You can explain that > one too, if you feel > like it... > > As to PD, I am very used to it, and it simply works > for me, but I don't want > to wait till it stops working, which will eventually > happen with one of the > Mac OS Upgrades? > > I guess I could buy another T3 etc. as a backup for > when my T3 dies. If I > don't, I doubt if a Cobalt PDA will work with > Panther 10.3.3 and PD 4.1, > unless Missing Link says otherwise... > > As to your choice of > http://www.marketcircle.com/daylite/overview.html > I'd > need to look into. $150 price is less scary to me > then the fact that this > company, product, might not make it, and become > unsupported... Ironically, > that was the reason that I stuck with PD, i.e. to > feel safer by being closer > to the "mother ship":)! Then the "mothers...." > killed their (our) PD > baby..., while the smaller (?) guys like NUTD etc. > are still standing. > > I wish there was a comprehensive INDEPENDENT site > for comparing PIM's, where > one could see blow by blow features compared etc. > > This List is a good start, as far as making the > transition... > > • Arkady > web site: http://www.arkady.com > > > From: > missing-sync-palmos-talk-request@lists.markspace.com > > Reply-To: > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > > Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 09:00:41 -0800 > > To: missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > > Subject: missing-sync-palmos-talk Digest, Vol 10, > Issue 11 > > > > Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 15:41:45 -0800 (PST) > > From: Mark Sponsler > > Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: PD 4.1 + > T3 = OK > > Panther10.3.3 > > To: missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > > Message-ID: > <20040320234145.32386.qmail@web80404.mail.yahoo.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > > Arkady, > > Don't make the same mistake I did. Avoid Now Up to > > Date. PowerOn Software's initials are P.O.S. for a > > reason. Stick with Palm Desktop if you need > something > > simple (the price is right any way). If you need > > something more sophisticated try Marketcircle's > > Daylite. It's great. If you are in sales, you'll > be > > glad you made the switch. > > Mark > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > > > End of missing-sync-palmos-talk Digest, Vol 10, > Issue 12 > ******************************************************** From arkady1 at mac.com Tue Mar 23 12:21:17 2004 From: arkady1 at mac.com (Arkady) Date: Tue Mar 23 09:21:24 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: PD 4.1 > NUTD? In-Reply-To: <200403231704.i2NH4NCN003776@penguin.markspace.com> Message-ID: Thanks Mark! Here is a BCC friend said about his experience with NUTD > There's certainly nothing wrong with palm desktop. I'd be using it if I > hadn't started with ncud many years ago. But I've never had a problem > of any sort with ncud--not on three different machines, not with > countless updates and upgrades to the current version. When someone > complains as this guy has, I always suspect larger more general cpu > problems. My only complaint about ncud now is that I lost some favorite > functions that simply can't work the way they did on OS9. That's really > apple's fault for not giving programmers leeway to write their apps > that way they want--not poweron's. I will wait till their version 5 to see. Only when my PD is dead, I will make a switch... ? Arkady web site: http://www.arkady.com > > Hi Arkady, > If PD solves 90% or more of your problems, I'd stay > with it. I'd be very surprised if it stopped working > anytime soon. As for Cobalt, I have no knowledge > except that if there's money to be made, folks like > Markspace or Marketcircle will step in with something. > > > Daylite is a great program. However, it may be > overkill for you. > > POS=POC= piece of crap. It expresses my frustration > with lack of support for a problem that many, but not > all customers had with constant crashes and file > corruption. It was a bug that apparently couldn't be > reliably reproduced. And, since they refused to take a > look at customer databases, the problem went unsolved. > Thanks, > Mark > >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. re: PD 4.1 > NUTD? (Arkady) >> >> Thanks everyone for your replies. >> >> Mark, >> >> You were obviously not very happy with NUTD. I think >> it would be of a great >> value to many if you told us in detail why you >> didn't like it. I also missed >> the joke (?) as far as P.O.S:) You can explain that >> one too, if you feel >> like it... >> >> As to PD, I am very used to it, and it simply works >> for me, but I don't want >> to wait till it stops working, which will eventually >> happen with one of the >> Mac OS Upgrades? >> >> I guess I could buy another T3 etc. as a backup for >> when my T3 dies. If I >> don't, I doubt if a Cobalt PDA will work with >> Panther 10.3.3 and PD 4.1, >> unless Missing Link says otherwise... >> >> As to your choice of >> http://www.marketcircle.com/daylite/overview.html >> I'd >> need to look into. $150 price is less scary to me >> then the fact that this >> company, product, might not make it, and become >> unsupported... Ironically, >> that was the reason that I stuck with PD, i.e. to >> feel safer by being closer >> to the "mother ship":)! Then the "mothers...." >> killed their (our) PD >> baby..., while the smaller (?) guys like NUTD etc. >> are still standing. >> >> I wish there was a comprehensive INDEPENDENT site >> for comparing PIM's, where >> one could see blow by blow features compared etc. >> >> This List is a good start, as far as making the >> transition... >> >> ? Arkady >> web site: http://www.arkady.com >> >>> From: >> missing-sync-palmos-talk-request@lists.markspace.com >>> Reply-To: >> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >>> Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 09:00:41 -0800 >>> To: missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >>> Subject: missing-sync-palmos-talk Digest, Vol 10, >> Issue 11 >>> >>> Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 15:41:45 -0800 (PST) >>> From: Mark Sponsler >>> Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: PD 4.1 + >> T3 = OK >>> Panther10.3.3 >>> To: missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >>> Message-ID: >> <20040320234145.32386.qmail@web80404.mail.yahoo.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >>> >>> Arkady, >>> Don't make the same mistake I did. Avoid Now Up to >>> Date. PowerOn Software's initials are P.O.S. for a >>> reason. Stick with Palm Desktop if you need >> something >>> simple (the price is right any way). If you need >>> something more sophisticated try Marketcircle's >>> Daylite. It's great. If you are in sales, you'll >> be >>> glad you made the switch. >>> Mark From gfdaught at cox.net Tue Mar 23 11:03:30 2004 From: gfdaught at cox.net (Gary F. Daught) Date: Tue Mar 23 10:03:32 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] 1.0.2 > 2.0.1 worth the upgrade price? Message-ID: <644D5A14-7CF4-11D8-BB33-000A9570752E@cox.net> Greetings I purchased Missing-Sync version 1.0.2 a little while ago. I see it's now at v. 2.0.1. Do you know if the transfer speed has been improved? (For bulk document transfer [e.g., mp3s] I tend to prefer a card reader.) Is it worth the $15 to upgrade? Please tell me more about this. Thanks. Gary Daught gfdaught@cox.net From brian_hall at markspace.com Tue Mar 23 11:58:43 2004 From: brian_hall at markspace.com (Brian Hall) Date: Tue Mar 23 11:59:01 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] 1.0.2 > 2.0.1 worth the upgrade price? In-Reply-To: <644D5A14-7CF4-11D8-BB33-000A9570752E@cox.net> References: <644D5A14-7CF4-11D8-BB33-000A9570752E@cox.net> Message-ID: At 11:03 AM -0700 3/23/04, Gary F. Daught wrote: >Greetings I purchased Missing-Sync version 1.0.2 a little while ago. I >see it's now at v. 2.0.1. Do you know if the transfer speed has been >improved? (For bulk document transfer [e.g., mp3s] I tend to prefer a >card reader.) Are you comparing it to a PC card card reader, or a USB one? Our software card reader is comparable to a USB reader when used with a Palm OS 5 device. The main speed factors are: - Speed of handheld - Speed of card - Speed of USB bus >The Is it worth the $15 to upgrade? Please tell me more about >this. Thanks. The 2.0 release now includes our internet sharing feature, which lets you use your Macs internet access on the handheld to run any Palm OS TCP app (email, browser, AvantGo, ePocrates, etc). See http://www.markspace.com/missingsyncinternet.html for those features (which also come with Missing Sync for Palm OS) Brian -- _____________________________________________________________________ Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 540 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 Los Gatos, CA 95030 From david.ceulemans at online.be Thu Mar 25 17:52:28 2004 From: david.ceulemans at online.be (David Ceulemans) Date: Thu Mar 25 08:52:33 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Syncing with Mail.app Message-ID: Hi all, Don't have 'my' Tungsten T3 yet, but I'm purchasing one really soon... I'm looking out to interesting sofware for the Palm however... I'm very interested in Missing Sync for Palm, but I seem to miss one 'little' feature: Mail-syncing I want to be able to take my mail with me at the morning, process them during daytime, and send the processed mail with my desktop machine at the evening. This seems a very strong - but IMO obvious - feature that's missing from Missing Sync... is it on the ToDo list? So far, I haven't found anything that does this with Mail.app (and i'm hesitating to turn back to Entourage for it, AND would prefer not to use another seperate application for it) so this would be a selling point for me ;) Any ideas? tnx! From brian_hall at markspace.com Thu Mar 25 10:38:16 2004 From: brian_hall at markspace.com (Brian Hall) Date: Thu Mar 25 10:38:31 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Syncing with Mail.app In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >Hi all, > >Don't have 'my' Tungsten T3 yet, but I'm purchasing one really soon... >I'm looking out to interesting sofware for the Palm however... > >I'm very interested in Missing Sync for Palm, but I seem to miss one >'little' feature: Mail-syncing > >I want to be able to take my mail with me at the morning, process them >during daytime, and send the processed mail with my desktop machine at >the evening. > >This seems a very strong - but IMO obvious - feature that's missing >from Missing Sync... is it on the ToDo list? > >So far, I haven't found anything that does this with Mail.app (and i'm >hesitating to turn back to Entourage for it, AND would prefer not to >use another seperate application for it) so this would be a selling >point for me ;) > >Any ideas? There are two ways you could go about it right now with off the shelf software... 1 - www.queuesoft.jp has a conduit that goes between mail.app and Mark/Space Mail (as well as CLIE Mail and I think Palm Mail). 2 - Missing Sync for Palm OS and Missing Sync for Internet Sharing and AvantGo allow you to share your internet connection with your handheld (such as the T3). If you go this route, you just pick your favorite email client on the Palm, and retreive/send the email right from the Palm (make sure you "leave mail on server" so you can later get it on the deskop as well). This is documented in the manual we include. Since there are so many combinations of email clients on both the handheld (10+ popular ones) and Mac (5+ popular ones) it becomes a losing proposition for a commercial software developer to try and cover them all via custom conduits, and covering only 1 or 2 pairs just makes the other 95% of the people unhappy ;-) So "never say never", but we have other features we are working on (see www.markspace.com/cobalt.html) that apply to *everyone* and are keeping us quite busy for the time being ;-) Brian -- _____________________________________________________________________ Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 540 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 Los Gatos, CA 95030 From jason at ophiochos.org.uk Thu Mar 25 19:07:20 2004 From: jason at ophiochos.org.uk (Jason Davies) Date: Thu Mar 25 11:06:07 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Syncing with Mail.app In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > >Any ideas? look on versiontracker.com for various things that do this with OE/Entourage, Eudora and Mail (but sadly, not Mailsmith, the king of emailers) From david.ceulemans at pandora.be Thu Mar 25 20:43:01 2004 From: david.ceulemans at pandora.be (David Ceulemans) Date: Thu Mar 25 12:02:37 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Syncing with Mail.app Message-ID: <5B1B0B74-7E97-11D8-B43D-00039378420A@pandora.be> On 25 Mar 2004, at 19:38, Brian Hall wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> Don't have 'my' Tungsten T3 yet, but I'm purchasing one really soon... >> I'm looking out to interesting sofware for the Palm however... >> >> I'm very interested in Missing Sync for Palm, but I seem to miss one >> 'little' feature: Mail-syncing >> >> I want to be able to take my mail with me at the morning, process them >> during daytime, and send the processed mail with my desktop machine at >> the evening. >> >> This seems a very strong - but IMO obvious - feature that's missing >> from Missing Sync... is it on the ToDo list? >> >> So far, I haven't found anything that does this with Mail.app (and i'm >> hesitating to turn back to Entourage for it, AND would prefer not to >> use another seperate application for it) so this would be a selling >> point for me ;) >> >> Any ideas? > > There are two ways you could go about it right now with off the shelf > software... > > 1 - www.queuesoft.jp has a conduit that goes between mail.app and > Mark/Space Mail (as well as CLIE Mail and I think Palm Mail). Hm. This one looks indeed interesting, but am I correct to see that it's not an iSync 'plugin' and depends on the PalmDesktop sofware (wich I'm told to avoid + I don't want to use multiple systems to sync the palm - I seem to prefer iSync / Missing Sync ;) )? > 2 - Missing Sync for Palm OS and Missing Sync for Internet Sharing and > AvantGo allow you to share your internet connection with your handheld > (such as the T3). If you go this route, you just pick your favorite > email > client on the Palm, and retreive/send the email right from the Palm > (make > sure you "leave mail on server" so you can later get it on the deskop > as > well). This is documented in the manual we include. Hm... don't think that manual is online right? Talking about the website: perhaps some pages with screenshots would be nice? ;) Does anyone know of any reviews of the MS Palm, btw? I've found one about the PocketPC one, but about the Palm version is nothing to find with Google... tnx > Since there are so many combinations of email clients on both the > handheld > (10+ popular ones) and Mac (5+ popular ones) it becomes a losing > proposition for a commercial software developer to try and cover them > all > via custom conduits, and covering only 1 or 2 pairs just makes the > other > 95% of the people unhappy ;-) Well... As you do seem to support all Apple included tools as iTunes, iPoto, etc... The obviouse choice seems Mail then, right? ;) > So "never say never", but we have other features we are working on (see > www.markspace.com/cobalt.html) that apply to *everyone* and are > keeping us > quite busy for the time being ;-) Seems interesting indeed, but hopefully we'll be able to upgrade our current devices with Cobalt... many tnx, Dave > Brian > > -- > _____________________________________________________________________ > Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 > 540 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 > Los Gatos, CA 95030 > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > From jason at ophiochos.org.uk Thu Mar 25 20:11:07 2004 From: jason at ophiochos.org.uk (Jason Davies) Date: Thu Mar 25 12:09:52 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Syncing with Mail.app In-Reply-To: <5B1B0B74-7E97-11D8-B43D-00039378420A@pandora.be> Message-ID: >Well... As you do seem to support all Apple included tools as iTunes, >iPoto, etc... The obviouse choice seems Mail then, right? ;) \ Mail sucks as an emailer and there are already conduits for Mail, at least there were last time I looked on versiontracker. So you can already use a conduit to link Mail to at least one Palm emailer. Er, so...what's the problem? :-) From brian_hall at markspace.com Thu Mar 25 12:31:28 2004 From: brian_hall at markspace.com (Brian Hall) Date: Thu Mar 25 12:32:45 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Syncing with Mail.app In-Reply-To: <5B1B0B74-7E97-11D8-B43D-00039378420A@pandora.be> References: <5B1B0B74-7E97-11D8-B43D-00039378420A@pandora.be> Message-ID: >> 1 - www.queuesoft.jp has a conduit that goes between mail.app and >> Mark/Space Mail (as well as CLIE Mail and I think Palm Mail). > >Hm. This one looks indeed interesting, but am I correct to see that >it's not an iSync 'plugin' and depends on the PalmDesktop sofware (wich >I'm told to avoid iSync uses Hotsync Manager (which you only get by installing Palm Desktop) anyway. So if you use iSync with your Palm OS device, you are also using (at least part of) Palm Desktop. > + I don't want to use multiple systems to sync the >palm - I seem to prefer iSync / Missing Sync ;) )? See above. If you use iSync, it is riding on top of hotsync manager anyway. So you can use iSync/iCal/Address for the PIM data and the mail conduit and mail.app for your mail data. >> 2 - Missing Sync for Palm OS and Missing Sync for Internet Sharing and >> AvantGo allow you to share your internet connection with your handheld >> (such as the T3). If you go this route, you just pick your favorite >> email >> client on the Palm, and retreive/send the email right from the Palm >> (make >> sure you "leave mail on server" so you can later get it on the deskop >> as >> well). This is documented in the manual we include. > >Hm... don't think that manual is online right? >Talking about the website: perhaps some pages with screenshots would be >nice? ;) The whole web site is currently getting an upgrade/new look. Product tours are part of that upgrade. Isn't there now, but will show up soon. >Well... As you do seem to support all Apple included tools as iTunes, >iPoto, etc... The obviouse choice seems Mail then, right? ;) It would make the "most sense", but there is no single mail app that has a majority of the mac desktop. I personally use Eudora. At Mark/Space it is pretty even between Eudora, Mail.app and Entourage. Then you have MailSmith, and many others. For those using Mail.app, the existing conduit already mentioned is out there, and there may be others (do a search on www.versiontracker.com for "mail conduit"). >> So "never say never", but we have other features we are working on (see >> www.markspace.com/cobalt.html) that apply to *everyone* and are >> keeping us >> quite busy for the time being ;-) > >Seems interesting indeed, but hopefully we'll be able to upgrade our >current devices with Cobalt... That would be up to the device manufacturers of course. Also Cobalt requires an ARM processors, so any current 3.x or 4.x device would be out (same reason that they can't be upgraded to 5.x). Brian -- _____________________________________________________________________ Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 540 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 Los Gatos, CA 95030 From david.ceulemans at pandora.be Thu Mar 25 22:58:31 2004 From: david.ceulemans at pandora.be (David Ceulemans) Date: Thu Mar 25 13:58:38 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Syncing with Mail.app In-Reply-To: References: <5B1B0B74-7E97-11D8-B43D-00039378420A@pandora.be> Message-ID: <8DBE1B60-7EA7-11D8-85C4-00039378420A@pandora.be> On 25 Mar 2004, at 21:31, Brian Hall wrote: > >>> 1 - www.queuesoft.jp has a conduit that goes between mail.app and >>> Mark/Space Mail (as well as CLIE Mail and I think Palm Mail). >> >> Hm. This one looks indeed interesting, but am I correct to see that >> it's not an iSync 'plugin' and depends on the PalmDesktop sofware >> (wich >> I'm told to avoid > > iSync uses Hotsync Manager (which you only get by installing Palm > Desktop) > anyway. > > So if you use iSync with your Palm OS device, you are also using (at > least > part of) Palm Desktop. Aha... > >> + I don't want to use multiple systems to sync the >> palm - I seem to prefer iSync / Missing Sync ;) )? > > See above. If you use iSync, it is riding on top of hotsync manager > anyway. > > So you can use iSync/iCal/Address for the PIM data and the mail > conduit and > mail.app for your mail data. That sounds OK. Most of this theoretical stuff will probably clear up when I actually can hold my own device ;) >>> 2 - Missing Sync for Palm OS and Missing Sync for Internet Sharing >>> and >>> AvantGo allow you to share your internet connection with your >>> handheld >>> (such as the T3). If you go this route, you just pick your favorite >>> email >>> client on the Palm, and retreive/send the email right from the Palm >>> (make >>> sure you "leave mail on server" so you can later get it on the deskop >>> as >>> well). This is documented in the manual we include. >> >> Hm... don't think that manual is online right? >> Talking about the website: perhaps some pages with screenshots would >> be >> nice? ;) > > The whole web site is currently getting an upgrade/new look. Product > tours > are part of that upgrade. Isn't there now, but will show up soon. Also sounding interesting ;) (...) Tnx for your input, regards, Dave From john at philpin.com Thu Mar 25 17:48:29 2004 From: john at philpin.com (John Philpin) Date: Thu Mar 25 17:48:34 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Internet Sharing Through Mac In-Reply-To: <8DBE1B60-7EA7-11D8-85C4-00039378420A@pandora.be> References: <5B1B0B74-7E97-11D8-B43D-00039378420A@pandora.be> <8DBE1B60-7EA7-11D8-85C4-00039378420A@pandora.be> Message-ID: I installed missing sync with great success about 6 weeks ago. All has been working fine - until now. I use OSX - and now when i set my mac wireless connection to share internet connection in order to grab mail and sync avantgo etc - my wireless connection disappears and my icon at top of screen is replaced with a grayed out icon - and a dark arrow pointing up - never seen this before. if i stop internet sharing - it all rights itself again. only major think i can think of since this last worked is that i did the 10.3.3 upgrade from apple about a week ago - and this is first time i have tried to do this since that upgrade - is there a setting i am missing - or have i discovered some incompatibility ? JPHILPIN From xenon.bob at verizon.net Thu Mar 25 22:22:59 2004 From: xenon.bob at verizon.net (Robert J. Shalit) Date: Thu Mar 25 19:23:03 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Help! user name error Message-ID: I named my brand new Garmin iQue 3600 the same name as my old Palm Zire 71 so I could just easily transfer all my applications over, etc. Then I hard reset my Palm Zire and renamed it a different User Name from the Garmin, and hotsynced the Zire. But I still get this error message: "This user name is already in use by another handheld device. Two handheld deviced with the same name may not be synchronized with the same computer." Even though this is not true! The Garmin User Name is NOT used by my Zire any longer. Help!!! Thank you! Bob (xenon.bob@verizon.net) From hcaley at plasmabat.com Fri Mar 19 09:55:59 2004 From: hcaley at plasmabat.com (Hugh Caley) Date: Thu Mar 25 23:00:45 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] iPhoto and Treo 600 Message-ID: I hadn't heard of iTreo! Very helpful, thank you. Hugh > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 18:25:18 -0800 > From: Brian Hall > Subject: Re: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] iPhoto and Treo 600 > To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Palm OS\) Discussion List" > > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > At 6:16 PM -0800 3/18/04, Hugh Caley wrote: >> Will Missing Sync for Palm OS ever be able to move pictures from the >> Treo 600 to iPhoto? > > It doesn't include that feature now, but that doesn't mean that we > won't > ever do it. For the moment you could either take pictures to the card, > or > copy pictures to the card, then from the card to iPhoto (via a card > reader > or the Missing Sync desktop mounting feature) > >> There currently is no application to do this, and >> given Palm's attitude towards Mac support I doubt there will be now. > > There is an app out there, see iTreo (search on versiontracker to find > it). > > Brian > -- "Take off you pants and get in the reptile tank" - Joe Rogan, FEAR FACTOR Hugh Caley hcaley@plasmabat.com From spons at swbell.net Sat Mar 20 15:41:45 2004 From: spons at swbell.net (Mark Sponsler) Date: Thu Mar 25 23:00:45 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: PD 4.1 + T3 = OK Panther10.3.3 In-Reply-To: <200403181700.i2IH0SCM027304@penguin.markspace.com> Message-ID: <20040320234145.32386.qmail@web80404.mail.yahoo.com> Arkady, Don't make the same mistake I did. Avoid Now Up to Date. PowerOn Software's initials are P.O.S. for a reason. Stick with Palm Desktop if you need something simple (the price is right any way). If you need something more sophisticated try Marketcircle's Daylite. It's great. If you are in sales, you'll be glad you made the switch. Mark --- missing-sync-palmos-talk-request@lists.markspace.com wrote: > Send missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > submissions to > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, > visit > > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > or, via email, send a message with subject or body > 'help' to > > missing-sync-palmos-talk-request@lists.markspace.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > missing-sync-palmos-talk-owner@lists.markspace.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it > is more specific > than "Re: Contents of missing-sync-palmos-talk > digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. PD 4.1 + T3 = OK Panther10.3.3 (Arkady) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 13:33:04 -0500 > From: Arkady > Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] PD 4.1 + T3 = > OK Panther10.3.3 > To: Missing Link List > > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" > > Hey Brian, > > Just to let yall know, I just upgraded from Panther > 10.3.2. to 10.3.3 > > My Palm Desktop 4.1. is still working, and it > HotSyncs FINE with my Tungsten > T3. Eventually I'll probably switch to Now Up To > Date for my PIM. In the > perfect world, I'd prefer to stick with this set up. > Hopefully Apple OS's > won't break it for years. By that time, maybe PIM > folks will give me a Phone > Dialer feature which PD had for years now. > > When my T3 dies, I'll get a Cobalt PDA. Hopefully > transferring my PD data to > Now, or whatever, won't be a mess. iCal doesn't do > Memo's ala PD... as of > now... > > Thank GOD you guys are here to save the day! > > • Arkady > web site: http://www.arkady.com > > > From: > missing-sync-palmos-talk-request@lists.markspace.com > > Reply-To: > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > > Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 09:04:06 -0800 > > To: missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > > Subject: missing-sync-palmos-talk Digest, Vol 10, > Issue 7 > > > > This will be part of an upcoming project we > announced at the PalmSource > > conference last month. It is a full and total > replacement for Palm Desktop > > - see www.markspace.com/cobalt.html > > > > Brian > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > > > End of missing-sync-palmos-talk Digest, Vol 10, > Issue 8 > ******************************************************* From arkady1 at mac.com Sat Mar 20 20:45:50 2004 From: arkady1 at mac.com (Arkady) Date: Thu Mar 25 23:00:45 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: PD 4.1 > NUTD? In-Reply-To: <200403191704.i2JH3lCN009192@penguin.markspace.com> Message-ID: No, Jason. I re-read that post again, and you'll see this as being the context of my reply >>> Because we sync using the Palm Hotsync software and customized conduits, the >>> sync should be fairly seamless and comparable to the Palm Desktop Sync. We >>> do not currently support any Memo sync as there is no real equivalent module >>> in Now Up to Date and Contact. For a comparison of the products, you should >>> contact our sales department. >>> >>>> As to HotSync, do I need PD's HotSync, where I'd only need to replace a few >>>> Conduits with your Conduits? How would that work? Is there a Read Me >>>> somewhere? which stated -- Please let your developers know that if they don't have that feature, they won't be able to attract any of us Palm Desktop users. I.e. what are we supposed to do with our Palm Desktop Memos? NUTD should declare themselves as being fully committed to receive us, Palm Desktop "survivors"... with all pertinent compatibility issues solved, otherwise NUTD will lose a lot of us to its competitors. ---------------- I still don't understand how NUTD doesn't have Memo's-Note's feature!!! It seems so basic, that even PD had it, and PD was free:)! NUTD, is not free, so it should be offering more than PD, including Memo's-Note's feature!!! NUTD stands in a perfect position to pick up new customers, PD survivors! It would be insane if they don't create a seamless transition option for former PD users, who otherwise will have go to Entourage, etc. With this List, and other online forums, it should be pretty easy for NUTD to declare to it's perspective customers, PD survivors, that a good new home is awaiting PD users and their Data:).... ? Arkady web site: http://www.arkady.com > From: Jason Davies > Subject: Re: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: Now Software Support > Request Ticket ID 10837 > To: "The Missing Sync (Mac/Palm OS) Discussion List" > > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > >> Please let your developers know that if they don't have that feature, >> they won't be able to attract any of us Palm Desktop users. I.e. what >> are we supposed to do with our Palm Desktop Memos? > > do you mean syncing? Missing Sync will be doing this when they release > the new version. But they never claimed it could do that! For now we > have PD 4.1 but later in the year we will hav a choice (at last!) of > using MS... From jason at ophiochos.org.uk Sun Mar 21 02:17:17 2004 From: jason at ophiochos.org.uk (Jason Davies) Date: Thu Mar 25 23:00:45 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: PD 4.1 > NUTD? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >No, Jason. >I re-read that post again, and you'll see this as being the context of >my reply Well Arkady, if people don't include pertinent info in their messages, I don't see how I -or anyone else - is supposed to know what is being talked about. I'll remember not to bother posting next time without exhaustively searching all the archives for any potentially relevant information. Thanks for pointing out my error which no doubt caused untold confusion on the list. From arkady1 at mac.com Sun Mar 21 14:19:02 2004 From: arkady1 at mac.com (Arkady) Date: Thu Mar 25 23:00:45 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] re: PD 4.1 > NUTD? In-Reply-To: <200403211700.i2LH0aCN013809@penguin.markspace.com> Message-ID: Thanks everyone for your replies. Mark, You were obviously not very happy with NUTD. I think it would be of a great value to many if you told us in detail why you didn't like it. I also missed the joke (?) as far as P.O.S:) You can explain that one too, if you feel like it... As to PD, I am very used to it, and it simply works for me, but I don't want to wait till it stops working, which will eventually happen with one of the Mac OS Upgrades? I guess I could buy another T3 etc. as a backup for when my T3 dies. If I don't, I doubt if a Cobalt PDA will work with Panther 10.3.3 and PD 4.1, unless Missing Link says otherwise... As to your choice of http://www.marketcircle.com/daylite/overview.html I'd need to look into. $150 price is less scary to me then the fact that this company, product, might not make it, and become unsupported... Ironically, that was the reason that I stuck with PD, i.e. to feel safer by being closer to the "mother ship":)! Then the "mothers...." killed their (our) PD baby..., while the smaller (?) guys like NUTD etc. are still standing. I wish there was a comprehensive INDEPENDENT site for comparing PIM's, where one could see blow by blow features compared etc. This List is a good start, as far as making the transition... ? Arkady web site: http://www.arkady.com > From: missing-sync-palmos-talk-request@lists.markspace.com > Reply-To: missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 09:00:41 -0800 > To: missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Subject: missing-sync-palmos-talk Digest, Vol 10, Issue 11 > > Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 15:41:45 -0800 (PST) > From: Mark Sponsler > Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: PD 4.1 + T3 = OK > Panther10.3.3 > To: missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Message-ID: <20040320234145.32386.qmail@web80404.mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Arkady, > Don't make the same mistake I did. Avoid Now Up to > Date. PowerOn Software's initials are P.O.S. for a > reason. Stick with Palm Desktop if you need something > simple (the price is right any way). If you need > something more sophisticated try Marketcircle's > Daylite. It's great. If you are in sales, you'll be > glad you made the switch. > Mark From spons at swbell.net Mon Mar 22 12:44:58 2004 From: spons at swbell.net (Mark Sponsler) Date: Thu Mar 25 23:00:45 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: missing-sync-palmos-talk Digest, Vol 10, Issue 12 In-Reply-To: <200403221700.i2MH0OCM022536@penguin.markspace.com> Message-ID: <20040322204458.70375.qmail@web80406.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Arkady, If PD solves 90% or more of your problems, I'd stay with it. I'd be very surprised if it stopped working anytime soon. As for Cobalt, I have no knowledge except that if there's money to be made, folks like Markspace or Marketcircle will step in with something. Daylite is a great program. However, it may be overkill for you. POS=POC= piece of crap. It expresses my frustration with lack of support for a problem that many, but not all customers had with constant crashes and file corruption. It was a bug that apparently couldn't be reliably reproduced. And, since they refused to take a look at customer databases, the problem went unsolved. Thanks, Mark --- missing-sync-palmos-talk-request@lists.markspace.com wrote: > Send missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > submissions to > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, > visit > > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > or, via email, send a message with subject or body > 'help' to > > missing-sync-palmos-talk-request@lists.markspace.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > missing-sync-palmos-talk-owner@lists.markspace.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it > is more specific > than "Re: Contents of missing-sync-palmos-talk > digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. re: PD 4.1 > NUTD? (Arkady) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 14:19:02 -0500 > From: Arkady > Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] re: PD 4.1 > > NUTD? > To: Missing Link List > > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" > > Thanks everyone for your replies. > > Mark, > > You were obviously not very happy with NUTD. I think > it would be of a great > value to many if you told us in detail why you > didn't like it. I also missed > the joke (?) as far as P.O.S:) You can explain that > one too, if you feel > like it... > > As to PD, I am very used to it, and it simply works > for me, but I don't want > to wait till it stops working, which will eventually > happen with one of the > Mac OS Upgrades? > > I guess I could buy another T3 etc. as a backup for > when my T3 dies. If I > don't, I doubt if a Cobalt PDA will work with > Panther 10.3.3 and PD 4.1, > unless Missing Link says otherwise... > > As to your choice of > http://www.marketcircle.com/daylite/overview.html > I'd > need to look into. $150 price is less scary to me > then the fact that this > company, product, might not make it, and become > unsupported... Ironically, > that was the reason that I stuck with PD, i.e. to > feel safer by being closer > to the "mother ship":)! Then the "mothers...." > killed their (our) PD > baby..., while the smaller (?) guys like NUTD etc. > are still standing. > > I wish there was a comprehensive INDEPENDENT site > for comparing PIM's, where > one could see blow by blow features compared etc. > > This List is a good start, as far as making the > transition... > > • Arkady > web site: http://www.arkady.com > > > From: > missing-sync-palmos-talk-request@lists.markspace.com > > Reply-To: > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > > Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 09:00:41 -0800 > > To: missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > > Subject: missing-sync-palmos-talk Digest, Vol 10, > Issue 11 > > > > Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 15:41:45 -0800 (PST) > > From: Mark Sponsler > > Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: PD 4.1 + > T3 = OK > > Panther10.3.3 > > To: missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > > Message-ID: > <20040320234145.32386.qmail@web80404.mail.yahoo.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > > Arkady, > > Don't make the same mistake I did. Avoid Now Up to > > Date. PowerOn Software's initials are P.O.S. for a > > reason. Stick with Palm Desktop if you need > something > > simple (the price is right any way). If you need > > something more sophisticated try Marketcircle's > > Daylite. It's great. If you are in sales, you'll > be > > glad you made the switch. > > Mark > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > > > End of missing-sync-palmos-talk Digest, Vol 10, > Issue 12 > ******************************************************** From arkady1 at mac.com Tue Mar 23 12:21:17 2004 From: arkady1 at mac.com (Arkady) Date: Thu Mar 25 23:00:45 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: PD 4.1 > NUTD? In-Reply-To: <200403231704.i2NH4NCN003776@penguin.markspace.com> Message-ID: Thanks Mark! Here is a BCC friend said about his experience with NUTD > There's certainly nothing wrong with palm desktop. I'd be using it if I > hadn't started with ncud many years ago. But I've never had a problem > of any sort with ncud--not on three different machines, not with > countless updates and upgrades to the current version. When someone > complains as this guy has, I always suspect larger more general cpu > problems. My only complaint about ncud now is that I lost some favorite > functions that simply can't work the way they did on OS9. That's really > apple's fault for not giving programmers leeway to write their apps > that way they want--not poweron's. I will wait till their version 5 to see. Only when my PD is dead, I will make a switch... ? Arkady web site: http://www.arkady.com > > Hi Arkady, > If PD solves 90% or more of your problems, I'd stay > with it. I'd be very surprised if it stopped working > anytime soon. As for Cobalt, I have no knowledge > except that if there's money to be made, folks like > Markspace or Marketcircle will step in with something. > > > Daylite is a great program. However, it may be > overkill for you. > > POS=POC= piece of crap. It expresses my frustration > with lack of support for a problem that many, but not > all customers had with constant crashes and file > corruption. It was a bug that apparently couldn't be > reliably reproduced. And, since they refused to take a > look at customer databases, the problem went unsolved. > Thanks, > Mark > >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. re: PD 4.1 > NUTD? (Arkady) >> >> Thanks everyone for your replies. >> >> Mark, >> >> You were obviously not very happy with NUTD. I think >> it would be of a great >> value to many if you told us in detail why you >> didn't like it. I also missed >> the joke (?) as far as P.O.S:) You can explain that >> one too, if you feel >> like it... >> >> As to PD, I am very used to it, and it simply works >> for me, but I don't want >> to wait till it stops working, which will eventually >> happen with one of the >> Mac OS Upgrades? >> >> I guess I could buy another T3 etc. as a backup for >> when my T3 dies. If I >> don't, I doubt if a Cobalt PDA will work with >> Panther 10.3.3 and PD 4.1, >> unless Missing Link says otherwise... >> >> As to your choice of >> http://www.marketcircle.com/daylite/overview.html >> I'd >> need to look into. $150 price is less scary to me >> then the fact that this >> company, product, might not make it, and become >> unsupported... Ironically, >> that was the reason that I stuck with PD, i.e. to >> feel safer by being closer >> to the "mother ship":)! Then the "mothers...." >> killed their (our) PD >> baby..., while the smaller (?) guys like NUTD etc. >> are still standing. >> >> I wish there was a comprehensive INDEPENDENT site >> for comparing PIM's, where >> one could see blow by blow features compared etc. >> >> This List is a good start, as far as making the >> transition... >> >> ? Arkady >> web site: http://www.arkady.com >> >>> From: >> missing-sync-palmos-talk-request@lists.markspace.com >>> Reply-To: >> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >>> Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 09:00:41 -0800 >>> To: missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >>> Subject: missing-sync-palmos-talk Digest, Vol 10, >> Issue 11 >>> >>> Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 15:41:45 -0800 (PST) >>> From: Mark Sponsler >>> Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: PD 4.1 + >> T3 = OK >>> Panther10.3.3 >>> To: missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >>> Message-ID: >> <20040320234145.32386.qmail@web80404.mail.yahoo.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >>> >>> Arkady, >>> Don't make the same mistake I did. Avoid Now Up to >>> Date. PowerOn Software's initials are P.O.S. for a >>> reason. Stick with Palm Desktop if you need >> something >>> simple (the price is right any way). If you need >>> something more sophisticated try Marketcircle's >>> Daylite. It's great. If you are in sales, you'll >> be >>> glad you made the switch. >>> Mark From gfdaught at cox.net Tue Mar 23 11:03:30 2004 From: gfdaught at cox.net (Gary F. Daught) Date: Thu Mar 25 23:00:45 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] 1.0.2 > 2.0.1 worth the upgrade price? Message-ID: <644D5A14-7CF4-11D8-BB33-000A9570752E@cox.net> Greetings I purchased Missing-Sync version 1.0.2 a little while ago. I see it's now at v. 2.0.1. Do you know if the transfer speed has been improved? (For bulk document transfer [e.g., mp3s] I tend to prefer a card reader.) Is it worth the $15 to upgrade? Please tell me more about this. Thanks. Gary Daught gfdaught@cox.net From brian_hall at markspace.com Tue Mar 23 11:58:43 2004 From: brian_hall at markspace.com (Brian Hall) Date: Thu Mar 25 23:00:45 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] 1.0.2 > 2.0.1 worth the upgrade price? In-Reply-To: <644D5A14-7CF4-11D8-BB33-000A9570752E@cox.net> References: <644D5A14-7CF4-11D8-BB33-000A9570752E@cox.net> Message-ID: At 11:03 AM -0700 3/23/04, Gary F. Daught wrote: >Greetings I purchased Missing-Sync version 1.0.2 a little while ago. I >see it's now at v. 2.0.1. Do you know if the transfer speed has been >improved? (For bulk document transfer [e.g., mp3s] I tend to prefer a >card reader.) Are you comparing it to a PC card card reader, or a USB one? Our software card reader is comparable to a USB reader when used with a Palm OS 5 device. The main speed factors are: - Speed of handheld - Speed of card - Speed of USB bus >The Is it worth the $15 to upgrade? Please tell me more about >this. Thanks. The 2.0 release now includes our internet sharing feature, which lets you use your Macs internet access on the handheld to run any Palm OS TCP app (email, browser, AvantGo, ePocrates, etc). See http://www.markspace.com/missingsyncinternet.html for those features (which also come with Missing Sync for Palm OS) Brian -- _____________________________________________________________________ Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 540 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 Los Gatos, CA 95030 From david.ceulemans at online.be Thu Mar 25 17:52:28 2004 From: david.ceulemans at online.be (David Ceulemans) Date: Thu Mar 25 23:00:45 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Syncing with Mail.app Message-ID: Hi all, Don't have 'my' Tungsten T3 yet, but I'm purchasing one really soon... I'm looking out to interesting sofware for the Palm however... I'm very interested in Missing Sync for Palm, but I seem to miss one 'little' feature: Mail-syncing I want to be able to take my mail with me at the morning, process them during daytime, and send the processed mail with my desktop machine at the evening. This seems a very strong - but IMO obvious - feature that's missing from Missing Sync... is it on the ToDo list? So far, I haven't found anything that does this with Mail.app (and i'm hesitating to turn back to Entourage for it, AND would prefer not to use another seperate application for it) so this would be a selling point for me ;) Any ideas? tnx! From brian_hall at markspace.com Thu Mar 25 10:38:16 2004 From: brian_hall at markspace.com (Brian Hall) Date: Thu Mar 25 23:00:45 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Syncing with Mail.app In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >Hi all, > >Don't have 'my' Tungsten T3 yet, but I'm purchasing one really soon... >I'm looking out to interesting sofware for the Palm however... > >I'm very interested in Missing Sync for Palm, but I seem to miss one >'little' feature: Mail-syncing > >I want to be able to take my mail with me at the morning, process them >during daytime, and send the processed mail with my desktop machine at >the evening. > >This seems a very strong - but IMO obvious - feature that's missing >from Missing Sync... is it on the ToDo list? > >So far, I haven't found anything that does this with Mail.app (and i'm >hesitating to turn back to Entourage for it, AND would prefer not to >use another seperate application for it) so this would be a selling >point for me ;) > >Any ideas? There are two ways you could go about it right now with off the shelf software... 1 - www.queuesoft.jp has a conduit that goes between mail.app and Mark/Space Mail (as well as CLIE Mail and I think Palm Mail). 2 - Missing Sync for Palm OS and Missing Sync for Internet Sharing and AvantGo allow you to share your internet connection with your handheld (such as the T3). If you go this route, you just pick your favorite email client on the Palm, and retreive/send the email right from the Palm (make sure you "leave mail on server" so you can later get it on the deskop as well). This is documented in the manual we include. Since there are so many combinations of email clients on both the handheld (10+ popular ones) and Mac (5+ popular ones) it becomes a losing proposition for a commercial software developer to try and cover them all via custom conduits, and covering only 1 or 2 pairs just makes the other 95% of the people unhappy ;-) So "never say never", but we have other features we are working on (see www.markspace.com/cobalt.html) that apply to *everyone* and are keeping us quite busy for the time being ;-) Brian -- _____________________________________________________________________ Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 540 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 Los Gatos, CA 95030 From jason at ophiochos.org.uk Thu Mar 25 19:07:20 2004 From: jason at ophiochos.org.uk (Jason Davies) Date: Thu Mar 25 23:00:45 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Syncing with Mail.app In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > >Any ideas? look on versiontracker.com for various things that do this with OE/Entourage, Eudora and Mail (but sadly, not Mailsmith, the king of emailers) From david.ceulemans at pandora.be Thu Mar 25 20:43:01 2004 From: david.ceulemans at pandora.be (David Ceulemans) Date: Thu Mar 25 23:00:45 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Syncing with Mail.app Message-ID: <5B1B0B74-7E97-11D8-B43D-00039378420A@pandora.be> On 25 Mar 2004, at 19:38, Brian Hall wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> Don't have 'my' Tungsten T3 yet, but I'm purchasing one really soon... >> I'm looking out to interesting sofware for the Palm however... >> >> I'm very interested in Missing Sync for Palm, but I seem to miss one >> 'little' feature: Mail-syncing >> >> I want to be able to take my mail with me at the morning, process them >> during daytime, and send the processed mail with my desktop machine at >> the evening. >> >> This seems a very strong - but IMO obvious - feature that's missing >> from Missing Sync... is it on the ToDo list? >> >> So far, I haven't found anything that does this with Mail.app (and i'm >> hesitating to turn back to Entourage for it, AND would prefer not to >> use another seperate application for it) so this would be a selling >> point for me ;) >> >> Any ideas? > > There are two ways you could go about it right now with off the shelf > software... > > 1 - www.queuesoft.jp has a conduit that goes between mail.app and > Mark/Space Mail (as well as CLIE Mail and I think Palm Mail). Hm. This one looks indeed interesting, but am I correct to see that it's not an iSync 'plugin' and depends on the PalmDesktop sofware (wich I'm told to avoid + I don't want to use multiple systems to sync the palm - I seem to prefer iSync / Missing Sync ;) )? > 2 - Missing Sync for Palm OS and Missing Sync for Internet Sharing and > AvantGo allow you to share your internet connection with your handheld > (such as the T3). If you go this route, you just pick your favorite > email > client on the Palm, and retreive/send the email right from the Palm > (make > sure you "leave mail on server" so you can later get it on the deskop > as > well). This is documented in the manual we include. Hm... don't think that manual is online right? Talking about the website: perhaps some pages with screenshots would be nice? ;) Does anyone know of any reviews of the MS Palm, btw? I've found one about the PocketPC one, but about the Palm version is nothing to find with Google... tnx > Since there are so many combinations of email clients on both the > handheld > (10+ popular ones) and Mac (5+ popular ones) it becomes a losing > proposition for a commercial software developer to try and cover them > all > via custom conduits, and covering only 1 or 2 pairs just makes the > other > 95% of the people unhappy ;-) Well... As you do seem to support all Apple included tools as iTunes, iPoto, etc... The obviouse choice seems Mail then, right? ;) > So "never say never", but we have other features we are working on (see > www.markspace.com/cobalt.html) that apply to *everyone* and are > keeping us > quite busy for the time being ;-) Seems interesting indeed, but hopefully we'll be able to upgrade our current devices with Cobalt... many tnx, Dave > Brian > > -- > _____________________________________________________________________ > Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 > 540 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 > Los Gatos, CA 95030 > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > From jason at ophiochos.org.uk Thu Mar 25 20:11:07 2004 From: jason at ophiochos.org.uk (Jason Davies) Date: Thu Mar 25 23:00:45 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Syncing with Mail.app In-Reply-To: <5B1B0B74-7E97-11D8-B43D-00039378420A@pandora.be> Message-ID: >Well... As you do seem to support all Apple included tools as iTunes, >iPoto, etc... The obviouse choice seems Mail then, right? ;) \ Mail sucks as an emailer and there are already conduits for Mail, at least there were last time I looked on versiontracker. So you can already use a conduit to link Mail to at least one Palm emailer. Er, so...what's the problem? :-) From brian_hall at markspace.com Thu Mar 25 12:31:28 2004 From: brian_hall at markspace.com (Brian Hall) Date: Thu Mar 25 23:00:45 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Syncing with Mail.app In-Reply-To: <5B1B0B74-7E97-11D8-B43D-00039378420A@pandora.be> References: <5B1B0B74-7E97-11D8-B43D-00039378420A@pandora.be> Message-ID: >> 1 - www.queuesoft.jp has a conduit that goes between mail.app and >> Mark/Space Mail (as well as CLIE Mail and I think Palm Mail). > >Hm. This one looks indeed interesting, but am I correct to see that >it's not an iSync 'plugin' and depends on the PalmDesktop sofware (wich >I'm told to avoid iSync uses Hotsync Manager (which you only get by installing Palm Desktop) anyway. So if you use iSync with your Palm OS device, you are also using (at least part of) Palm Desktop. > + I don't want to use multiple systems to sync the >palm - I seem to prefer iSync / Missing Sync ;) )? See above. If you use iSync, it is riding on top of hotsync manager anyway. So you can use iSync/iCal/Address for the PIM data and the mail conduit and mail.app for your mail data. >> 2 - Missing Sync for Palm OS and Missing Sync for Internet Sharing and >> AvantGo allow you to share your internet connection with your handheld >> (such as the T3). If you go this route, you just pick your favorite >> email >> client on the Palm, and retreive/send the email right from the Palm >> (make >> sure you "leave mail on server" so you can later get it on the deskop >> as >> well). This is documented in the manual we include. > >Hm... don't think that manual is online right? >Talking about the website: perhaps some pages with screenshots would be >nice? ;) The whole web site is currently getting an upgrade/new look. Product tours are part of that upgrade. Isn't there now, but will show up soon. >Well... As you do seem to support all Apple included tools as iTunes, >iPoto, etc... The obviouse choice seems Mail then, right? ;) It would make the "most sense", but there is no single mail app that has a majority of the mac desktop. I personally use Eudora. At Mark/Space it is pretty even between Eudora, Mail.app and Entourage. Then you have MailSmith, and many others. For those using Mail.app, the existing conduit already mentioned is out there, and there may be others (do a search on www.versiontracker.com for "mail conduit"). >> So "never say never", but we have other features we are working on (see >> www.markspace.com/cobalt.html) that apply to *everyone* and are >> keeping us >> quite busy for the time being ;-) > >Seems interesting indeed, but hopefully we'll be able to upgrade our >current devices with Cobalt... That would be up to the device manufacturers of course. Also Cobalt requires an ARM processors, so any current 3.x or 4.x device would be out (same reason that they can't be upgraded to 5.x). Brian -- _____________________________________________________________________ Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 540 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 Los Gatos, CA 95030 From david.ceulemans at pandora.be Thu Mar 25 22:58:31 2004 From: david.ceulemans at pandora.be (David Ceulemans) Date: Thu Mar 25 23:00:45 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Syncing with Mail.app In-Reply-To: References: <5B1B0B74-7E97-11D8-B43D-00039378420A@pandora.be> Message-ID: <8DBE1B60-7EA7-11D8-85C4-00039378420A@pandora.be> On 25 Mar 2004, at 21:31, Brian Hall wrote: > >>> 1 - www.queuesoft.jp has a conduit that goes between mail.app and >>> Mark/Space Mail (as well as CLIE Mail and I think Palm Mail). >> >> Hm. This one looks indeed interesting, but am I correct to see that >> it's not an iSync 'plugin' and depends on the PalmDesktop sofware >> (wich >> I'm told to avoid > > iSync uses Hotsync Manager (which you only get by installing Palm > Desktop) > anyway. > > So if you use iSync with your Palm OS device, you are also using (at > least > part of) Palm Desktop. Aha... > >> + I don't want to use multiple systems to sync the >> palm - I seem to prefer iSync / Missing Sync ;) )? > > See above. If you use iSync, it is riding on top of hotsync manager > anyway. > > So you can use iSync/iCal/Address for the PIM data and the mail > conduit and > mail.app for your mail data. That sounds OK. Most of this theoretical stuff will probably clear up when I actually can hold my own device ;) >>> 2 - Missing Sync for Palm OS and Missing Sync for Internet Sharing >>> and >>> AvantGo allow you to share your internet connection with your >>> handheld >>> (such as the T3). If you go this route, you just pick your favorite >>> email >>> client on the Palm, and retreive/send the email right from the Palm >>> (make >>> sure you "leave mail on server" so you can later get it on the deskop >>> as >>> well). This is documented in the manual we include. >> >> Hm... don't think that manual is online right? >> Talking about the website: perhaps some pages with screenshots would >> be >> nice? ;) > > The whole web site is currently getting an upgrade/new look. Product > tours > are part of that upgrade. Isn't there now, but will show up soon. Also sounding interesting ;) (...) Tnx for your input, regards, Dave From john at philpin.com Thu Mar 25 17:48:29 2004 From: john at philpin.com (John Philpin) Date: Thu Mar 25 23:00:45 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Internet Sharing Through Mac In-Reply-To: <8DBE1B60-7EA7-11D8-85C4-00039378420A@pandora.be> References: <5B1B0B74-7E97-11D8-B43D-00039378420A@pandora.be> <8DBE1B60-7EA7-11D8-85C4-00039378420A@pandora.be> Message-ID: I installed missing sync with great success about 6 weeks ago. All has been working fine - until now. I use OSX - and now when i set my mac wireless connection to share internet connection in order to grab mail and sync avantgo etc - my wireless connection disappears and my icon at top of screen is replaced with a grayed out icon - and a dark arrow pointing up - never seen this before. if i stop internet sharing - it all rights itself again. only major think i can think of since this last worked is that i did the 10.3.3 upgrade from apple about a week ago - and this is first time i have tried to do this since that upgrade - is there a setting i am missing - or have i discovered some incompatibility ? JPHILPIN From xenon.bob at verizon.net Thu Mar 25 22:22:59 2004 From: xenon.bob at verizon.net (Robert J. Shalit) Date: Thu Mar 25 23:00:45 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Help! user name error Message-ID: I named my brand new Garmin iQue 3600 the same name as my old Palm Zire 71 so I could just easily transfer all my applications over, etc. Then I hard reset my Palm Zire and renamed it a different User Name from the Garmin, and hotsynced the Zire. But I still get this error message: "This user name is already in use by another handheld device. Two handheld deviced with the same name may not be synchronized with the same computer." Even though this is not true! The Garmin User Name is NOT used by my Zire any longer. Help!!! Thank you! Bob (xenon.bob@verizon.net) From cheshirekat at pobox.com Fri Mar 26 05:06:03 2004 From: cheshirekat at pobox.com (cheshirekat) Date: Fri Mar 26 04:05:55 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Help! user name error In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040326120603.28408@sasl.smtp.pobox.com> On Thu, Mar 25, 2004, the following words from Robert J. Shalit xenon.bob@verizon.net, emerged from a plethora of SPAM ... >I named my brand new Garmin iQue 3600 the same name as my old Palm Zire 71 >so I could just easily transfer all my applications over, etc. Then I hard >reset my Palm Zire and renamed it a different User Name from the Garmin, and >hotsynced the Zire. But I still get this error message: > >"This user name is already in use by another handheld device. Two handheld >deviced with the same name may not be synchronized with the same computer." > >Even though this is not true! The Garmin User Name is NOT used by my Zire >any longer. > >Help!!! > >Thank you! > >Bob > The first PDA I got was a Zire 21 about a month ago. I week later I bought a Tungsten E. I also thought it would be easier to keep the same name for my new Palm. I went to Palm's web site and followed the procedure they made available. I'm fairly certain the process would be the same for switching to a Garmin. I didn't have any problems and I had to do it twice as my husband also upgraded from a Palm Zire 21 to a Tungsten E. You probably just simply missed a step. I'd go to Palm's site or maybe Garmin's to see if they have troubleshooting the error you got in their FAQ. -- Sometimes even to live is an act of courage. - Lucius Annaeus Seneca, writer and philosopher * 867 PowerBook G4 * OS X 10.2.6 * 768 MB Ram * From xenon.bob at verizon.net Fri Mar 26 08:58:06 2004 From: xenon.bob at verizon.net (Robert J. Shalit) Date: Fri Mar 26 05:58:19 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Help! user name error In-Reply-To: <20040326120603.28408@sasl.smtp.pobox.com> Message-ID: Thanks -- do you remember exactly where that www link on the Palm site is - I can't find it. I spent an hour and a half talking to Palm tech last night and they finally decided it was out of their hands since one on the units is a Garmin even thought the Garmin uses Palm's software. on 3/26/04 7:06 AM, cheshirekat at cheshirekat@pobox.com wrote: > On Thu, Mar 25, 2004, the following words from Robert J. Shalit > xenon.bob@verizon.net, emerged from a plethora of SPAM ... > >> I named my brand new Garmin iQue 3600 the same name as my old Palm Zire 71 >> so I could just easily transfer all my applications over, etc. Then I hard >> reset my Palm Zire and renamed it a different User Name from the Garmin, and >> hotsynced the Zire. But I still get this error message: >> >> "This user name is already in use by another handheld device. Two handheld >> deviced with the same name may not be synchronized with the same computer." >> >> Even though this is not true! The Garmin User Name is NOT used by my Zire >> any longer. >> >> Help!!! >> >> Thank you! >> >> Bob >> > The first PDA I got was a Zire 21 about a month ago. I week later I > bought a Tungsten E. I also thought it would be easier to keep the same > name for my new Palm. I went to Palm's web site and followed the > procedure they made available. I'm fairly certain the process would be > the same for switching to a Garmin. I didn't have any problems and I had > to do it twice as my husband also upgraded from a Palm Zire 21 to a > Tungsten E. You probably just simply missed a step. I'd go to Palm's site > or maybe Garmin's to see if they have troubleshooting the error you got > in their FAQ. ********** Robert J. Shalit 350 Water St. Keene, NH 03431 (xenon.bob@verizon.net) 603-357-3443 **** ?La razon de la sin razon que a mi razon assiste.? --don Quixote, Cervantes **** "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism, since it is the merger of state and corporate power." ? Benito Mussolini From cheshirekat at pobox.com Fri Mar 26 14:44:37 2004 From: cheshirekat at pobox.com (cheshirekat) Date: Fri Mar 26 13:44:41 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Help! user name error In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040326214437.8497@sasl.smtp.pobox.com> On Fri, Mar 26, 2004, the following words from Robert J. Shalit xenon.bob@verizon.net, emerged from a plethora of SPAM ... >Thanks -- do you remember exactly where that www link on the Palm site is - >I can't find it. I spent an hour and a half talking to Palm tech last night >and they finally decided it was out of their hands since one on the units is >a Garmin even thought the Garmin uses Palm's software. > >on 3/26/04 7:06 AM, cheshirekat at cheshirekat@pobox.com wrote: > >> On Thu, Mar 25, 2004, the following words from Robert J. Shalit >> xenon.bob@verizon.net, emerged from a plethora of SPAM ... >> >>> I named my brand new Garmin iQue 3600 the same name as my old Palm Zire 71 >>> so I could just easily transfer all my applications over, etc. Then I hard >>> reset my Palm Zire and renamed it a different User Name from the >Garmin, and >>> hotsynced the Zire. But I still get this error message: >>> >>> "This user name is already in use by another handheld device. Two handheld >>> deviced with the same name may not be synchronized with the same computer." >>> >>> Even though this is not true! The Garmin User Name is NOT used by my Zire >>> any longer. >>> >>> Help!!! >>> >>> Thank you! >>> >>> Bob >>> >> The first PDA I got was a Zire 21 about a month ago. I week later I >> bought a Tungsten E. I also thought it would be easier to keep the same >> name for my new Palm. I went to Palm's web site and followed the >> procedure they made available. I'm fairly certain the process would be >> the same for switching to a Garmin. I didn't have any problems and I had >> to do it twice as my husband also upgraded from a Palm Zire 21 to a >> Tungsten E. You probably just simply missed a step. I'd go to Palm's site >> or maybe Garmin's to see if they have troubleshooting the error you got >> in their FAQ. Go to Palm's support site. Choose any handheld - the procedure is about the same. I chose my Tungsten E. Towards the top of the page and about the center, you should see "Upgrading from a previous palmOne handheld? Get step-by-step instructions from this setup guide. " Click on the START HERE link. Make sure you have Javascript activated in your browser so that you get the small window that pops up with the instructions for you to follow. When you get to the window that prompts you to choose an upgrade option, you probably want to choose Option 2. In your shoes, I would look carefully over all the instructions because you can probably determine the best way to proceed based on what you've already done. My *guess* is that you will just need to rename your backup folder and change your conduit settings so that the Palm Desktop software overrides the handheld when you perform a hotsync. This should transfer all your PIM data to your handheld and then you'll have to reset your conduits to syncronize your data and install third party applications after the successful hotsync. HTH, and Good luck! -- Sometimes even to live is an act of courage. - Lucius Annaeus Seneca, writer and philosopher * 867 PowerBook G4 * OS X 10.2.6 * 768 MB Ram * From arkady1 at mac.com Wed Mar 31 19:33:00 2004 From: arkady1 at mac.com (Arkady) Date: Fri Apr 9 11:45:36 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] FW: Memo Field for Now Up-to-Date & Contact In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I spoke to this guy... Their next BIG Upgrade, Version 5 is due either in November, or for sure by Macworld 2005 in SF. They don't guarantee Notes-Memo Feature:), but they understand that without it they can't welcome Palm Desktop folks in as customers... Let's see what happens... Meanwhile, with ABDialer http://macronsoft.com/pages/en/abdialer.html Entourage will become an option, although RELUCTANT for me... ------- From: "Scott D. Hulme" Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 13:27:51 -0500 To: arkady1@mac.com Subject: Memo Field for Now Up-to-Date & Contact Arkady, We appreciate your emails about Memo Fields from Palm Desktop syncing with Now Up-to-Date & Contact. Again, as our tech support has indicated, this is on the drawing board for version 5. With literally thousands of feature requests for version 5, we cannot guarantee that this feature will be implemented in the final shipping version. Please feel free to contact me at your earliest convenience with any questions that you may have. Thanks!! Scott D. Hulme Senior Account Executive Now Software/Power On Software Office: 614.413.4000 x3074 Toll Free: 1.800.344.9160 x3074 Fax: 614.413.4100 http://www.nowsoftware.com http://www.poweronsoftware.com ==================================================================== New! Now Up-to-Date & Contact Made for Mac OS X & Windows! 4 1/2 mice out of 5--Macworld 5/03 Best all around for Palm/Mac/Windows/Internet Perfect for individuals & ideal for business and schools Visit http://www.nowsoftware.com to learn more Now Software is a division of Power On Software, Inc - An Inc 500 Company ------ End of Forwarded Message From hcaley at plasmabat.com Fri Mar 19 09:55:59 2004 From: hcaley at plasmabat.com (Hugh Caley) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:47 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] iPhoto and Treo 600 Message-ID: I hadn't heard of iTreo! Very helpful, thank you. Hugh > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 18:25:18 -0800 > From: Brian Hall > Subject: Re: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] iPhoto and Treo 600 > To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Palm OS\) Discussion List" > > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > At 6:16 PM -0800 3/18/04, Hugh Caley wrote: >> Will Missing Sync for Palm OS ever be able to move pictures from the >> Treo 600 to iPhoto? > > It doesn't include that feature now, but that doesn't mean that we > won't > ever do it. For the moment you could either take pictures to the card, > or > copy pictures to the card, then from the card to iPhoto (via a card > reader > or the Missing Sync desktop mounting feature) > >> There currently is no application to do this, and >> given Palm's attitude towards Mac support I doubt there will be now. > > There is an app out there, see iTreo (search on versiontracker to find > it). > > Brian > -- "Take off you pants and get in the reptile tank" - Joe Rogan, FEAR FACTOR Hugh Caley hcaley@plasmabat.com From spons at swbell.net Sat Mar 20 15:41:45 2004 From: spons at swbell.net (Mark Sponsler) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:48 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: PD 4.1 + T3 = OK Panther10.3.3 In-Reply-To: <200403181700.i2IH0SCM027304@penguin.markspace.com> Message-ID: <20040320234145.32386.qmail@web80404.mail.yahoo.com> Arkady, Don't make the same mistake I did. Avoid Now Up to Date. PowerOn Software's initials are P.O.S. for a reason. Stick with Palm Desktop if you need something simple (the price is right any way). If you need something more sophisticated try Marketcircle's Daylite. It's great. If you are in sales, you'll be glad you made the switch. Mark --- missing-sync-palmos-talk-request@lists.markspace.com wrote: > Send missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > submissions to > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, > visit > > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > or, via email, send a message with subject or body > 'help' to > > missing-sync-palmos-talk-request@lists.markspace.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > missing-sync-palmos-talk-owner@lists.markspace.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it > is more specific > than "Re: Contents of missing-sync-palmos-talk > digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. PD 4.1 + T3 = OK Panther10.3.3 (Arkady) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 13:33:04 -0500 > From: Arkady > Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] PD 4.1 + T3 = > OK Panther10.3.3 > To: Missing Link List > > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" > > Hey Brian, > > Just to let yall know, I just upgraded from Panther > 10.3.2. to 10.3.3 > > My Palm Desktop 4.1. is still working, and it > HotSyncs FINE with my Tungsten > T3. Eventually I'll probably switch to Now Up To > Date for my PIM. In the > perfect world, I'd prefer to stick with this set up. > Hopefully Apple OS's > won't break it for years. By that time, maybe PIM > folks will give me a Phone > Dialer feature which PD had for years now. > > When my T3 dies, I'll get a Cobalt PDA. Hopefully > transferring my PD data to > Now, or whatever, won't be a mess. iCal doesn't do > Memo's ala PD... as of > now... > > Thank GOD you guys are here to save the day! > > • Arkady > web site: http://www.arkady.com > > > From: > missing-sync-palmos-talk-request@lists.markspace.com > > Reply-To: > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > > Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 09:04:06 -0800 > > To: missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > > Subject: missing-sync-palmos-talk Digest, Vol 10, > Issue 7 > > > > This will be part of an upcoming project we > announced at the PalmSource > > conference last month. It is a full and total > replacement for Palm Desktop > > - see www.markspace.com/cobalt.html > > > > Brian > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > > > End of missing-sync-palmos-talk Digest, Vol 10, > Issue 8 > ******************************************************* From arkady1 at mac.com Sat Mar 20 20:45:50 2004 From: arkady1 at mac.com (Arkady) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:48 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: PD 4.1 > NUTD? In-Reply-To: <200403191704.i2JH3lCN009192@penguin.markspace.com> Message-ID: No, Jason. I re-read that post again, and you'll see this as being the context of my reply >>> Because we sync using the Palm Hotsync software and customized conduits, the >>> sync should be fairly seamless and comparable to the Palm Desktop Sync. We >>> do not currently support any Memo sync as there is no real equivalent module >>> in Now Up to Date and Contact. For a comparison of the products, you should >>> contact our sales department. >>> >>>> As to HotSync, do I need PD's HotSync, where I'd only need to replace a few >>>> Conduits with your Conduits? How would that work? Is there a Read Me >>>> somewhere? which stated -- Please let your developers know that if they don't have that feature, they won't be able to attract any of us Palm Desktop users. I.e. what are we supposed to do with our Palm Desktop Memos? NUTD should declare themselves as being fully committed to receive us, Palm Desktop "survivors"... with all pertinent compatibility issues solved, otherwise NUTD will lose a lot of us to its competitors. ---------------- I still don't understand how NUTD doesn't have Memo's-Note's feature!!! It seems so basic, that even PD had it, and PD was free:)! NUTD, is not free, so it should be offering more than PD, including Memo's-Note's feature!!! NUTD stands in a perfect position to pick up new customers, PD survivors! It would be insane if they don't create a seamless transition option for former PD users, who otherwise will have go to Entourage, etc. With this List, and other online forums, it should be pretty easy for NUTD to declare to it's perspective customers, PD survivors, that a good new home is awaiting PD users and their Data:).... ? Arkady web site: http://www.arkady.com > From: Jason Davies > Subject: Re: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: Now Software Support > Request Ticket ID 10837 > To: "The Missing Sync (Mac/Palm OS) Discussion List" > > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > >> Please let your developers know that if they don't have that feature, >> they won't be able to attract any of us Palm Desktop users. I.e. what >> are we supposed to do with our Palm Desktop Memos? > > do you mean syncing? Missing Sync will be doing this when they release > the new version. But they never claimed it could do that! For now we > have PD 4.1 but later in the year we will hav a choice (at last!) of > using MS... From jason at ophiochos.org.uk Sun Mar 21 02:17:17 2004 From: jason at ophiochos.org.uk (Jason Davies) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:48 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: PD 4.1 > NUTD? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >No, Jason. >I re-read that post again, and you'll see this as being the context of >my reply Well Arkady, if people don't include pertinent info in their messages, I don't see how I -or anyone else - is supposed to know what is being talked about. I'll remember not to bother posting next time without exhaustively searching all the archives for any potentially relevant information. Thanks for pointing out my error which no doubt caused untold confusion on the list. From arkady1 at mac.com Sun Mar 21 14:19:02 2004 From: arkady1 at mac.com (Arkady) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:48 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] re: PD 4.1 > NUTD? In-Reply-To: <200403211700.i2LH0aCN013809@penguin.markspace.com> Message-ID: Thanks everyone for your replies. Mark, You were obviously not very happy with NUTD. I think it would be of a great value to many if you told us in detail why you didn't like it. I also missed the joke (?) as far as P.O.S:) You can explain that one too, if you feel like it... As to PD, I am very used to it, and it simply works for me, but I don't want to wait till it stops working, which will eventually happen with one of the Mac OS Upgrades? I guess I could buy another T3 etc. as a backup for when my T3 dies. If I don't, I doubt if a Cobalt PDA will work with Panther 10.3.3 and PD 4.1, unless Missing Link says otherwise... As to your choice of http://www.marketcircle.com/daylite/overview.html I'd need to look into. $150 price is less scary to me then the fact that this company, product, might not make it, and become unsupported... Ironically, that was the reason that I stuck with PD, i.e. to feel safer by being closer to the "mother ship":)! Then the "mothers...." killed their (our) PD baby..., while the smaller (?) guys like NUTD etc. are still standing. I wish there was a comprehensive INDEPENDENT site for comparing PIM's, where one could see blow by blow features compared etc. This List is a good start, as far as making the transition... ? Arkady web site: http://www.arkady.com > From: missing-sync-palmos-talk-request@lists.markspace.com > Reply-To: missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 09:00:41 -0800 > To: missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Subject: missing-sync-palmos-talk Digest, Vol 10, Issue 11 > > Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 15:41:45 -0800 (PST) > From: Mark Sponsler > Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: PD 4.1 + T3 = OK > Panther10.3.3 > To: missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Message-ID: <20040320234145.32386.qmail@web80404.mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Arkady, > Don't make the same mistake I did. Avoid Now Up to > Date. PowerOn Software's initials are P.O.S. for a > reason. Stick with Palm Desktop if you need something > simple (the price is right any way). If you need > something more sophisticated try Marketcircle's > Daylite. It's great. If you are in sales, you'll be > glad you made the switch. > Mark From spons at swbell.net Mon Mar 22 12:44:58 2004 From: spons at swbell.net (Mark Sponsler) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:48 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: missing-sync-palmos-talk Digest, Vol 10, Issue 12 In-Reply-To: <200403221700.i2MH0OCM022536@penguin.markspace.com> Message-ID: <20040322204458.70375.qmail@web80406.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Arkady, If PD solves 90% or more of your problems, I'd stay with it. I'd be very surprised if it stopped working anytime soon. As for Cobalt, I have no knowledge except that if there's money to be made, folks like Markspace or Marketcircle will step in with something. Daylite is a great program. However, it may be overkill for you. POS=POC= piece of crap. It expresses my frustration with lack of support for a problem that many, but not all customers had with constant crashes and file corruption. It was a bug that apparently couldn't be reliably reproduced. And, since they refused to take a look at customer databases, the problem went unsolved. Thanks, Mark --- missing-sync-palmos-talk-request@lists.markspace.com wrote: > Send missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > submissions to > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, > visit > > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > or, via email, send a message with subject or body > 'help' to > > missing-sync-palmos-talk-request@lists.markspace.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > missing-sync-palmos-talk-owner@lists.markspace.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it > is more specific > than "Re: Contents of missing-sync-palmos-talk > digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. re: PD 4.1 > NUTD? (Arkady) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 14:19:02 -0500 > From: Arkady > Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] re: PD 4.1 > > NUTD? > To: Missing Link List > > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" > > Thanks everyone for your replies. > > Mark, > > You were obviously not very happy with NUTD. I think > it would be of a great > value to many if you told us in detail why you > didn't like it. I also missed > the joke (?) as far as P.O.S:) You can explain that > one too, if you feel > like it... > > As to PD, I am very used to it, and it simply works > for me, but I don't want > to wait till it stops working, which will eventually > happen with one of the > Mac OS Upgrades? > > I guess I could buy another T3 etc. as a backup for > when my T3 dies. If I > don't, I doubt if a Cobalt PDA will work with > Panther 10.3.3 and PD 4.1, > unless Missing Link says otherwise... > > As to your choice of > http://www.marketcircle.com/daylite/overview.html > I'd > need to look into. $150 price is less scary to me > then the fact that this > company, product, might not make it, and become > unsupported... Ironically, > that was the reason that I stuck with PD, i.e. to > feel safer by being closer > to the "mother ship":)! Then the "mothers...." > killed their (our) PD > baby..., while the smaller (?) guys like NUTD etc. > are still standing. > > I wish there was a comprehensive INDEPENDENT site > for comparing PIM's, where > one could see blow by blow features compared etc. > > This List is a good start, as far as making the > transition... > > • Arkady > web site: http://www.arkady.com > > > From: > missing-sync-palmos-talk-request@lists.markspace.com > > Reply-To: > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > > Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 09:00:41 -0800 > > To: missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > > Subject: missing-sync-palmos-talk Digest, Vol 10, > Issue 11 > > > > Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 15:41:45 -0800 (PST) > > From: Mark Sponsler > > Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: PD 4.1 + > T3 = OK > > Panther10.3.3 > > To: missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > > Message-ID: > <20040320234145.32386.qmail@web80404.mail.yahoo.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > > Arkady, > > Don't make the same mistake I did. Avoid Now Up to > > Date. PowerOn Software's initials are P.O.S. for a > > reason. Stick with Palm Desktop if you need > something > > simple (the price is right any way). If you need > > something more sophisticated try Marketcircle's > > Daylite. It's great. If you are in sales, you'll > be > > glad you made the switch. > > Mark > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > > > End of missing-sync-palmos-talk Digest, Vol 10, > Issue 12 > ******************************************************** From arkady1 at mac.com Tue Mar 23 12:21:17 2004 From: arkady1 at mac.com (Arkady) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:48 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: PD 4.1 > NUTD? In-Reply-To: <200403231704.i2NH4NCN003776@penguin.markspace.com> Message-ID: Thanks Mark! Here is a BCC friend said about his experience with NUTD > There's certainly nothing wrong with palm desktop. I'd be using it if I > hadn't started with ncud many years ago. But I've never had a problem > of any sort with ncud--not on three different machines, not with > countless updates and upgrades to the current version. When someone > complains as this guy has, I always suspect larger more general cpu > problems. My only complaint about ncud now is that I lost some favorite > functions that simply can't work the way they did on OS9. That's really > apple's fault for not giving programmers leeway to write their apps > that way they want--not poweron's. I will wait till their version 5 to see. Only when my PD is dead, I will make a switch... ? Arkady web site: http://www.arkady.com > > Hi Arkady, > If PD solves 90% or more of your problems, I'd stay > with it. I'd be very surprised if it stopped working > anytime soon. As for Cobalt, I have no knowledge > except that if there's money to be made, folks like > Markspace or Marketcircle will step in with something. > > > Daylite is a great program. However, it may be > overkill for you. > > POS=POC= piece of crap. It expresses my frustration > with lack of support for a problem that many, but not > all customers had with constant crashes and file > corruption. It was a bug that apparently couldn't be > reliably reproduced. And, since they refused to take a > look at customer databases, the problem went unsolved. > Thanks, > Mark > >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. re: PD 4.1 > NUTD? (Arkady) >> >> Thanks everyone for your replies. >> >> Mark, >> >> You were obviously not very happy with NUTD. I think >> it would be of a great >> value to many if you told us in detail why you >> didn't like it. I also missed >> the joke (?) as far as P.O.S:) You can explain that >> one too, if you feel >> like it... >> >> As to PD, I am very used to it, and it simply works >> for me, but I don't want >> to wait till it stops working, which will eventually >> happen with one of the >> Mac OS Upgrades? >> >> I guess I could buy another T3 etc. as a backup for >> when my T3 dies. If I >> don't, I doubt if a Cobalt PDA will work with >> Panther 10.3.3 and PD 4.1, >> unless Missing Link says otherwise... >> >> As to your choice of >> http://www.marketcircle.com/daylite/overview.html >> I'd >> need to look into. $150 price is less scary to me >> then the fact that this >> company, product, might not make it, and become >> unsupported... Ironically, >> that was the reason that I stuck with PD, i.e. to >> feel safer by being closer >> to the "mother ship":)! Then the "mothers...." >> killed their (our) PD >> baby..., while the smaller (?) guys like NUTD etc. >> are still standing. >> >> I wish there was a comprehensive INDEPENDENT site >> for comparing PIM's, where >> one could see blow by blow features compared etc. >> >> This List is a good start, as far as making the >> transition... >> >> ? Arkady >> web site: http://www.arkady.com >> >>> From: >> missing-sync-palmos-talk-request@lists.markspace.com >>> Reply-To: >> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >>> Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 09:00:41 -0800 >>> To: missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >>> Subject: missing-sync-palmos-talk Digest, Vol 10, >> Issue 11 >>> >>> Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 15:41:45 -0800 (PST) >>> From: Mark Sponsler >>> Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: PD 4.1 + >> T3 = OK >>> Panther10.3.3 >>> To: missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >>> Message-ID: >> <20040320234145.32386.qmail@web80404.mail.yahoo.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >>> >>> Arkady, >>> Don't make the same mistake I did. Avoid Now Up to >>> Date. PowerOn Software's initials are P.O.S. for a >>> reason. Stick with Palm Desktop if you need >> something >>> simple (the price is right any way). If you need >>> something more sophisticated try Marketcircle's >>> Daylite. It's great. If you are in sales, you'll >> be >>> glad you made the switch. >>> Mark From gfdaught at cox.net Tue Mar 23 11:03:30 2004 From: gfdaught at cox.net (Gary F. Daught) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:48 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] 1.0.2 > 2.0.1 worth the upgrade price? Message-ID: <644D5A14-7CF4-11D8-BB33-000A9570752E@cox.net> Greetings I purchased Missing-Sync version 1.0.2 a little while ago. I see it's now at v. 2.0.1. Do you know if the transfer speed has been improved? (For bulk document transfer [e.g., mp3s] I tend to prefer a card reader.) Is it worth the $15 to upgrade? Please tell me more about this. Thanks. Gary Daught gfdaught@cox.net From brian_hall at markspace.com Tue Mar 23 11:58:43 2004 From: brian_hall at markspace.com (Brian Hall) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:48 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] 1.0.2 > 2.0.1 worth the upgrade price? In-Reply-To: <644D5A14-7CF4-11D8-BB33-000A9570752E@cox.net> References: <644D5A14-7CF4-11D8-BB33-000A9570752E@cox.net> Message-ID: At 11:03 AM -0700 3/23/04, Gary F. Daught wrote: >Greetings I purchased Missing-Sync version 1.0.2 a little while ago. I >see it's now at v. 2.0.1. Do you know if the transfer speed has been >improved? (For bulk document transfer [e.g., mp3s] I tend to prefer a >card reader.) Are you comparing it to a PC card card reader, or a USB one? Our software card reader is comparable to a USB reader when used with a Palm OS 5 device. The main speed factors are: - Speed of handheld - Speed of card - Speed of USB bus >The Is it worth the $15 to upgrade? Please tell me more about >this. Thanks. The 2.0 release now includes our internet sharing feature, which lets you use your Macs internet access on the handheld to run any Palm OS TCP app (email, browser, AvantGo, ePocrates, etc). See http://www.markspace.com/missingsyncinternet.html for those features (which also come with Missing Sync for Palm OS) Brian -- _____________________________________________________________________ Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 540 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 Los Gatos, CA 95030 From david.ceulemans at online.be Thu Mar 25 17:52:28 2004 From: david.ceulemans at online.be (David Ceulemans) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:48 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Syncing with Mail.app Message-ID: Hi all, Don't have 'my' Tungsten T3 yet, but I'm purchasing one really soon... I'm looking out to interesting sofware for the Palm however... I'm very interested in Missing Sync for Palm, but I seem to miss one 'little' feature: Mail-syncing I want to be able to take my mail with me at the morning, process them during daytime, and send the processed mail with my desktop machine at the evening. This seems a very strong - but IMO obvious - feature that's missing from Missing Sync... is it on the ToDo list? So far, I haven't found anything that does this with Mail.app (and i'm hesitating to turn back to Entourage for it, AND would prefer not to use another seperate application for it) so this would be a selling point for me ;) Any ideas? tnx! From brian_hall at markspace.com Thu Mar 25 10:38:16 2004 From: brian_hall at markspace.com (Brian Hall) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:48 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Syncing with Mail.app In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >Hi all, > >Don't have 'my' Tungsten T3 yet, but I'm purchasing one really soon... >I'm looking out to interesting sofware for the Palm however... > >I'm very interested in Missing Sync for Palm, but I seem to miss one >'little' feature: Mail-syncing > >I want to be able to take my mail with me at the morning, process them >during daytime, and send the processed mail with my desktop machine at >the evening. > >This seems a very strong - but IMO obvious - feature that's missing >from Missing Sync... is it on the ToDo list? > >So far, I haven't found anything that does this with Mail.app (and i'm >hesitating to turn back to Entourage for it, AND would prefer not to >use another seperate application for it) so this would be a selling >point for me ;) > >Any ideas? There are two ways you could go about it right now with off the shelf software... 1 - www.queuesoft.jp has a conduit that goes between mail.app and Mark/Space Mail (as well as CLIE Mail and I think Palm Mail). 2 - Missing Sync for Palm OS and Missing Sync for Internet Sharing and AvantGo allow you to share your internet connection with your handheld (such as the T3). If you go this route, you just pick your favorite email client on the Palm, and retreive/send the email right from the Palm (make sure you "leave mail on server" so you can later get it on the deskop as well). This is documented in the manual we include. Since there are so many combinations of email clients on both the handheld (10+ popular ones) and Mac (5+ popular ones) it becomes a losing proposition for a commercial software developer to try and cover them all via custom conduits, and covering only 1 or 2 pairs just makes the other 95% of the people unhappy ;-) So "never say never", but we have other features we are working on (see www.markspace.com/cobalt.html) that apply to *everyone* and are keeping us quite busy for the time being ;-) Brian -- _____________________________________________________________________ Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 540 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 Los Gatos, CA 95030 From jason at ophiochos.org.uk Thu Mar 25 19:07:20 2004 From: jason at ophiochos.org.uk (Jason Davies) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:48 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Syncing with Mail.app In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > >Any ideas? look on versiontracker.com for various things that do this with OE/Entourage, Eudora and Mail (but sadly, not Mailsmith, the king of emailers) From david.ceulemans at pandora.be Thu Mar 25 20:43:01 2004 From: david.ceulemans at pandora.be (David Ceulemans) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:48 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Syncing with Mail.app Message-ID: <5B1B0B74-7E97-11D8-B43D-00039378420A@pandora.be> On 25 Mar 2004, at 19:38, Brian Hall wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> Don't have 'my' Tungsten T3 yet, but I'm purchasing one really soon... >> I'm looking out to interesting sofware for the Palm however... >> >> I'm very interested in Missing Sync for Palm, but I seem to miss one >> 'little' feature: Mail-syncing >> >> I want to be able to take my mail with me at the morning, process them >> during daytime, and send the processed mail with my desktop machine at >> the evening. >> >> This seems a very strong - but IMO obvious - feature that's missing >> from Missing Sync... is it on the ToDo list? >> >> So far, I haven't found anything that does this with Mail.app (and i'm >> hesitating to turn back to Entourage for it, AND would prefer not to >> use another seperate application for it) so this would be a selling >> point for me ;) >> >> Any ideas? > > There are two ways you could go about it right now with off the shelf > software... > > 1 - www.queuesoft.jp has a conduit that goes between mail.app and > Mark/Space Mail (as well as CLIE Mail and I think Palm Mail). Hm. This one looks indeed interesting, but am I correct to see that it's not an iSync 'plugin' and depends on the PalmDesktop sofware (wich I'm told to avoid + I don't want to use multiple systems to sync the palm - I seem to prefer iSync / Missing Sync ;) )? > 2 - Missing Sync for Palm OS and Missing Sync for Internet Sharing and > AvantGo allow you to share your internet connection with your handheld > (such as the T3). If you go this route, you just pick your favorite > email > client on the Palm, and retreive/send the email right from the Palm > (make > sure you "leave mail on server" so you can later get it on the deskop > as > well). This is documented in the manual we include. Hm... don't think that manual is online right? Talking about the website: perhaps some pages with screenshots would be nice? ;) Does anyone know of any reviews of the MS Palm, btw? I've found one about the PocketPC one, but about the Palm version is nothing to find with Google... tnx > Since there are so many combinations of email clients on both the > handheld > (10+ popular ones) and Mac (5+ popular ones) it becomes a losing > proposition for a commercial software developer to try and cover them > all > via custom conduits, and covering only 1 or 2 pairs just makes the > other > 95% of the people unhappy ;-) Well... As you do seem to support all Apple included tools as iTunes, iPoto, etc... The obviouse choice seems Mail then, right? ;) > So "never say never", but we have other features we are working on (see > www.markspace.com/cobalt.html) that apply to *everyone* and are > keeping us > quite busy for the time being ;-) Seems interesting indeed, but hopefully we'll be able to upgrade our current devices with Cobalt... many tnx, Dave > Brian > > -- > _____________________________________________________________________ > Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 > 540 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 > Los Gatos, CA 95030 > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > From jason at ophiochos.org.uk Thu Mar 25 20:11:07 2004 From: jason at ophiochos.org.uk (Jason Davies) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:48 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Syncing with Mail.app In-Reply-To: <5B1B0B74-7E97-11D8-B43D-00039378420A@pandora.be> Message-ID: >Well... As you do seem to support all Apple included tools as iTunes, >iPoto, etc... The obviouse choice seems Mail then, right? ;) \ Mail sucks as an emailer and there are already conduits for Mail, at least there were last time I looked on versiontracker. So you can already use a conduit to link Mail to at least one Palm emailer. Er, so...what's the problem? :-) From brian_hall at markspace.com Thu Mar 25 12:31:28 2004 From: brian_hall at markspace.com (Brian Hall) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:48 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Syncing with Mail.app In-Reply-To: <5B1B0B74-7E97-11D8-B43D-00039378420A@pandora.be> References: <5B1B0B74-7E97-11D8-B43D-00039378420A@pandora.be> Message-ID: >> 1 - www.queuesoft.jp has a conduit that goes between mail.app and >> Mark/Space Mail (as well as CLIE Mail and I think Palm Mail). > >Hm. This one looks indeed interesting, but am I correct to see that >it's not an iSync 'plugin' and depends on the PalmDesktop sofware (wich >I'm told to avoid iSync uses Hotsync Manager (which you only get by installing Palm Desktop) anyway. So if you use iSync with your Palm OS device, you are also using (at least part of) Palm Desktop. > + I don't want to use multiple systems to sync the >palm - I seem to prefer iSync / Missing Sync ;) )? See above. If you use iSync, it is riding on top of hotsync manager anyway. So you can use iSync/iCal/Address for the PIM data and the mail conduit and mail.app for your mail data. >> 2 - Missing Sync for Palm OS and Missing Sync for Internet Sharing and >> AvantGo allow you to share your internet connection with your handheld >> (such as the T3). If you go this route, you just pick your favorite >> email >> client on the Palm, and retreive/send the email right from the Palm >> (make >> sure you "leave mail on server" so you can later get it on the deskop >> as >> well). This is documented in the manual we include. > >Hm... don't think that manual is online right? >Talking about the website: perhaps some pages with screenshots would be >nice? ;) The whole web site is currently getting an upgrade/new look. Product tours are part of that upgrade. Isn't there now, but will show up soon. >Well... As you do seem to support all Apple included tools as iTunes, >iPoto, etc... The obviouse choice seems Mail then, right? ;) It would make the "most sense", but there is no single mail app that has a majority of the mac desktop. I personally use Eudora. At Mark/Space it is pretty even between Eudora, Mail.app and Entourage. Then you have MailSmith, and many others. For those using Mail.app, the existing conduit already mentioned is out there, and there may be others (do a search on www.versiontracker.com for "mail conduit"). >> So "never say never", but we have other features we are working on (see >> www.markspace.com/cobalt.html) that apply to *everyone* and are >> keeping us >> quite busy for the time being ;-) > >Seems interesting indeed, but hopefully we'll be able to upgrade our >current devices with Cobalt... That would be up to the device manufacturers of course. Also Cobalt requires an ARM processors, so any current 3.x or 4.x device would be out (same reason that they can't be upgraded to 5.x). Brian -- _____________________________________________________________________ Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 540 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 Los Gatos, CA 95030 From david.ceulemans at pandora.be Thu Mar 25 22:58:31 2004 From: david.ceulemans at pandora.be (David Ceulemans) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:48 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Syncing with Mail.app In-Reply-To: References: <5B1B0B74-7E97-11D8-B43D-00039378420A@pandora.be> Message-ID: <8DBE1B60-7EA7-11D8-85C4-00039378420A@pandora.be> On 25 Mar 2004, at 21:31, Brian Hall wrote: > >>> 1 - www.queuesoft.jp has a conduit that goes between mail.app and >>> Mark/Space Mail (as well as CLIE Mail and I think Palm Mail). >> >> Hm. This one looks indeed interesting, but am I correct to see that >> it's not an iSync 'plugin' and depends on the PalmDesktop sofware >> (wich >> I'm told to avoid > > iSync uses Hotsync Manager (which you only get by installing Palm > Desktop) > anyway. > > So if you use iSync with your Palm OS device, you are also using (at > least > part of) Palm Desktop. Aha... > >> + I don't want to use multiple systems to sync the >> palm - I seem to prefer iSync / Missing Sync ;) )? > > See above. If you use iSync, it is riding on top of hotsync manager > anyway. > > So you can use iSync/iCal/Address for the PIM data and the mail > conduit and > mail.app for your mail data. That sounds OK. Most of this theoretical stuff will probably clear up when I actually can hold my own device ;) >>> 2 - Missing Sync for Palm OS and Missing Sync for Internet Sharing >>> and >>> AvantGo allow you to share your internet connection with your >>> handheld >>> (such as the T3). If you go this route, you just pick your favorite >>> email >>> client on the Palm, and retreive/send the email right from the Palm >>> (make >>> sure you "leave mail on server" so you can later get it on the deskop >>> as >>> well). This is documented in the manual we include. >> >> Hm... don't think that manual is online right? >> Talking about the website: perhaps some pages with screenshots would >> be >> nice? ;) > > The whole web site is currently getting an upgrade/new look. Product > tours > are part of that upgrade. Isn't there now, but will show up soon. Also sounding interesting ;) (...) Tnx for your input, regards, Dave From john at philpin.com Thu Mar 25 17:48:29 2004 From: john at philpin.com (John Philpin) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:48 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Internet Sharing Through Mac In-Reply-To: <8DBE1B60-7EA7-11D8-85C4-00039378420A@pandora.be> References: <5B1B0B74-7E97-11D8-B43D-00039378420A@pandora.be> <8DBE1B60-7EA7-11D8-85C4-00039378420A@pandora.be> Message-ID: I installed missing sync with great success about 6 weeks ago. All has been working fine - until now. I use OSX - and now when i set my mac wireless connection to share internet connection in order to grab mail and sync avantgo etc - my wireless connection disappears and my icon at top of screen is replaced with a grayed out icon - and a dark arrow pointing up - never seen this before. if i stop internet sharing - it all rights itself again. only major think i can think of since this last worked is that i did the 10.3.3 upgrade from apple about a week ago - and this is first time i have tried to do this since that upgrade - is there a setting i am missing - or have i discovered some incompatibility ? JPHILPIN From xenon.bob at verizon.net Thu Mar 25 22:22:59 2004 From: xenon.bob at verizon.net (Robert J. Shalit) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:48 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Help! user name error Message-ID: I named my brand new Garmin iQue 3600 the same name as my old Palm Zire 71 so I could just easily transfer all my applications over, etc. Then I hard reset my Palm Zire and renamed it a different User Name from the Garmin, and hotsynced the Zire. But I still get this error message: "This user name is already in use by another handheld device. Two handheld deviced with the same name may not be synchronized with the same computer." Even though this is not true! The Garmin User Name is NOT used by my Zire any longer. Help!!! Thank you! Bob (xenon.bob@verizon.net) From cheshirekat at pobox.com Fri Mar 26 05:06:03 2004 From: cheshirekat at pobox.com (cheshirekat) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:48 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Help! user name error In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040326120603.28408@sasl.smtp.pobox.com> On Thu, Mar 25, 2004, the following words from Robert J. Shalit xenon.bob@verizon.net, emerged from a plethora of SPAM ... >I named my brand new Garmin iQue 3600 the same name as my old Palm Zire 71 >so I could just easily transfer all my applications over, etc. Then I hard >reset my Palm Zire and renamed it a different User Name from the Garmin, and >hotsynced the Zire. But I still get this error message: > >"This user name is already in use by another handheld device. Two handheld >deviced with the same name may not be synchronized with the same computer." > >Even though this is not true! The Garmin User Name is NOT used by my Zire >any longer. > >Help!!! > >Thank you! > >Bob > The first PDA I got was a Zire 21 about a month ago. I week later I bought a Tungsten E. I also thought it would be easier to keep the same name for my new Palm. I went to Palm's web site and followed the procedure they made available. I'm fairly certain the process would be the same for switching to a Garmin. I didn't have any problems and I had to do it twice as my husband also upgraded from a Palm Zire 21 to a Tungsten E. You probably just simply missed a step. I'd go to Palm's site or maybe Garmin's to see if they have troubleshooting the error you got in their FAQ. -- Sometimes even to live is an act of courage. - Lucius Annaeus Seneca, writer and philosopher * 867 PowerBook G4 * OS X 10.2.6 * 768 MB Ram * From xenon.bob at verizon.net Fri Mar 26 08:58:06 2004 From: xenon.bob at verizon.net (Robert J. Shalit) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:48 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Help! user name error In-Reply-To: <20040326120603.28408@sasl.smtp.pobox.com> Message-ID: Thanks -- do you remember exactly where that www link on the Palm site is - I can't find it. I spent an hour and a half talking to Palm tech last night and they finally decided it was out of their hands since one on the units is a Garmin even thought the Garmin uses Palm's software. on 3/26/04 7:06 AM, cheshirekat at cheshirekat@pobox.com wrote: > On Thu, Mar 25, 2004, the following words from Robert J. Shalit > xenon.bob@verizon.net, emerged from a plethora of SPAM ... > >> I named my brand new Garmin iQue 3600 the same name as my old Palm Zire 71 >> so I could just easily transfer all my applications over, etc. Then I hard >> reset my Palm Zire and renamed it a different User Name from the Garmin, and >> hotsynced the Zire. But I still get this error message: >> >> "This user name is already in use by another handheld device. Two handheld >> deviced with the same name may not be synchronized with the same computer." >> >> Even though this is not true! The Garmin User Name is NOT used by my Zire >> any longer. >> >> Help!!! >> >> Thank you! >> >> Bob >> > The first PDA I got was a Zire 21 about a month ago. I week later I > bought a Tungsten E. I also thought it would be easier to keep the same > name for my new Palm. I went to Palm's web site and followed the > procedure they made available. I'm fairly certain the process would be > the same for switching to a Garmin. I didn't have any problems and I had > to do it twice as my husband also upgraded from a Palm Zire 21 to a > Tungsten E. You probably just simply missed a step. I'd go to Palm's site > or maybe Garmin's to see if they have troubleshooting the error you got > in their FAQ. ********** Robert J. Shalit 350 Water St. Keene, NH 03431 (xenon.bob@verizon.net) 603-357-3443 **** ?La razon de la sin razon que a mi razon assiste.? --don Quixote, Cervantes **** "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism, since it is the merger of state and corporate power." ? Benito Mussolini From cheshirekat at pobox.com Fri Mar 26 14:44:37 2004 From: cheshirekat at pobox.com (cheshirekat) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:48 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Help! user name error In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040326214437.8497@sasl.smtp.pobox.com> On Fri, Mar 26, 2004, the following words from Robert J. Shalit xenon.bob@verizon.net, emerged from a plethora of SPAM ... >Thanks -- do you remember exactly where that www link on the Palm site is - >I can't find it. I spent an hour and a half talking to Palm tech last night >and they finally decided it was out of their hands since one on the units is >a Garmin even thought the Garmin uses Palm's software. > >on 3/26/04 7:06 AM, cheshirekat at cheshirekat@pobox.com wrote: > >> On Thu, Mar 25, 2004, the following words from Robert J. Shalit >> xenon.bob@verizon.net, emerged from a plethora of SPAM ... >> >>> I named my brand new Garmin iQue 3600 the same name as my old Palm Zire 71 >>> so I could just easily transfer all my applications over, etc. Then I hard >>> reset my Palm Zire and renamed it a different User Name from the >Garmin, and >>> hotsynced the Zire. But I still get this error message: >>> >>> "This user name is already in use by another handheld device. Two handheld >>> deviced with the same name may not be synchronized with the same computer." >>> >>> Even though