From reefer at worldviewpr.com Mon Jan 12 11:21:44 2004 From: reefer at worldviewpr.com (Bill Gram-Reefer) Date: Fri Feb 13 19:28:49 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] avantgo problem Message-ID: <8ED6C239-4534-11D8-8213-0030654E6B14@worldviewpr.com> Using Missing SYnc Mac OS /Palm 5 (treo 600) to access avantgo First, the system prefs check box in avantgo does not appear to work consistently "refresh all content" is always unmarked when i go to it to check prefs. So I check it. then do a synch that then doesn't work. I go back to prefs and the check box is once again not checked. Do I have have to check box each time? The avantgo program establishes a link and sends stuff to the server and then downloads and that countdown but then all i get is the welcome page suggesting if my channels do not appear try reyscnhing again (and again and again) my sych history at avantgo website looks like this Completely out of sync, resequencing... Web Content: OK Mammut: Do nothing Mon Jan 12, 2004 10:47:50 GMT-0800 - 537 seconds Size limit exceeded for channel - USATODAY.com Size limit exceeded for channel - New York Times - Technology HTTP/1.1 404 File not found.(404) - http://public.wsj.com/news/avan... Size limit exceeded for channel - The Sporting News Web Content: OK Mammut: Do nothing Mon Jan 12, 2004 10:47:45 GMT-0800 - 0 seconds Completely out of sync, resequencing... Web Content: OK Mammut: Do nothing I got rid of some of the chunkier channels but it still does not work and my usage is only 500 of 2000 kb I'd appreciate any advice or a faq that deals with avantgo directly. bgr Completely out of sync, resequencing... Web Content: OK Mammut: Do nothing Mon Jan 12, 2004 10:47:50 GMT-0800 - 537 seconds Size limit exceeded for channel - USATODAY.com Size limit exceeded for channel - New York Times - Technology HTTP/1.1 404 File not found.(404) - http://public.wsj.com/news/avan... Size limit exceeded for channel - The Sporting News Web Content: OK Mammut: Do nothing Mon Jan 12, 2004 10:47:45 GMT-0800 - 0 seconds Completely out of sync, resequencing... Web Content: OK Mammut: Do nothing From jzurek at cabrini.edu Mon Jan 12 21:30:40 2004 From: jzurek at cabrini.edu (Jerry Zurek) Date: Fri Feb 13 19:28:49 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Avantgo problem In-Reply-To: <200401122002.i0CK2pm30492@markspace.vps.fluidhosting.com> Message-ID: I have never been successful syncing to Avantgo. I corresponded with the folks at MarkSpace many times but never succeeded. I gave up. Has anyone actually synced with Avantgo? I have MissingSync 2.0. I follow all the steps in the manual but when I get to "tap the Connect button" in network prefs, it tries to sign on until I get error: PPP timeout (0x1231). My Service is Missing Sync. The details are Connection type: PPP Query DNS checked IP address: Automatic checked. I have given up and am curious if this Avantgo really ever works. Thanks, Jerry Thanks, -- Jerry Zurek English & Communication Dept. Cabrini College http://pages.cabrini.edu/jzurek Sign up for advising at http://email.calendars.net/jz > > Today's Topics: > > 1. avantgo problem (Bill Gram-Reefer) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 11:21:44 -0800 > From: Bill Gram-Reefer > To: missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] avantgo problem > Message-ID: <8ED6C239-4534-11D8-8213-0030654E6B14@worldviewpr.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset=US-ASCII; > format=flowed > MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Precedence: list > Reply-To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Palm OS\) Discussion List" > > Message: 1 > > Using Missing SYnc Mac OS /Palm 5 (treo 600) to access avantgo > > First, the system prefs check box in avantgo does not appear to work > consistently > > "refresh all content" is always unmarked when i go to it to check > prefs. So I check it. then do a synch that then doesn't work. I go back > to prefs and the check box is once again not checked. Do I have have to > check box each time? > > The avantgo program establishes a link and sends stuff to the server > and then downloads and that countdown > > but then all i get is the welcome page suggesting if my channels do not > appear try reyscnhing again (and again and again) > > my sych history at avantgo website looks like this > > Completely out of sync, resequencing... > Web Content: OK > Mammut: Do nothing > > Mon Jan 12, 2004 10:47:50 GMT-0800 - 537 seconds > Size limit exceeded for channel - USATODAY.com > Size limit exceeded for channel - New York Times - Technology > HTTP/1.1 404 File not found.(404) - http://public.wsj.com/news/avan... > Size limit exceeded for channel - The Sporting News > Web Content: OK > Mammut: Do nothing > > Mon Jan 12, 2004 10:47:45 GMT-0800 - 0 seconds > Completely out of sync, resequencing... > Web Content: OK > Mammut: Do nothing > > I got rid of some of the chunkier channels but it still does not work > and my usage is only 500 of 2000 kb > > I'd appreciate any advice or a faq that deals with avantgo directly. > > bgr > > Completely out of sync, resequencing... > Web Content: OK > Mammut: Do nothing > > Mon Jan 12, 2004 10:47:50 GMT-0800 - 537 seconds > Size limit exceeded for channel - USATODAY.com > Size limit exceeded for channel - New York Times - Technology > HTTP/1.1 404 File not found.(404) - http://public.wsj.com/news/avan... > Size limit exceeded for channel - The Sporting News > Web Content: OK > Mammut: Do nothing > > Mon Jan 12, 2004 10:47:45 GMT-0800 - 0 seconds > Completely out of sync, resequencing... > Web Content: OK > Mammut: Do nothing > ------------------------------ > From nicou5 at hotmail.com Tue Jan 13 02:57:23 2004 From: nicou5 at hotmail.com (Veronique Richard) Date: Fri Feb 13 19:28:49 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Avantgo problem Message-ID: Jerry, I'm totally with you, I've had the same problem have exchanged email with markspace not getting anywhere, I've just emailed them today in response to yet a general answer after I left a voicemail message, I'm giving up myself. If I'm not getting anywhere by the end of the week I'm asking for my money back! Sorry to ventilate like that, but if you're getting an answer and it works, please please let me know. Thanks Veronique Véronique Richard nicou5@hotmail.com >From: Jerry Zurek >Reply-To: "The Missing Sync (Mac/Palm OS) Discussion >List" >To: >Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Avantgo problem >Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 21:30:40 -0500 > >I have never been successful syncing to Avantgo. > >I corresponded with the folks at MarkSpace many times but never succeeded. >I >gave up. Has anyone actually synced with Avantgo? > >I have MissingSync 2.0. > >I follow all the steps in the manual but when I get to "tap the Connect >button" in network prefs, it tries to sign on until I get error: PPP >timeout >(0x1231). > >My Service is Missing Sync. The details are >Connection type: PPP >Query DNS checked >IP address: Automatic checked. > >I have given up and am curious if this Avantgo really ever works. > >Thanks, >Jerry >Thanks, >-- >Jerry Zurek > >English & Communication Dept. >Cabrini College >http://pages.cabrini.edu/jzurek > >Sign up for advising at >http://email.calendars.net/jz > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. avantgo problem (Bill Gram-Reefer) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 11:21:44 -0800 > > From: Bill Gram-Reefer > > To: missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > > Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] avantgo problem > > Message-ID: <8ED6C239-4534-11D8-8213-0030654E6B14@worldviewpr.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; > > charset=US-ASCII; > > format=flowed > > MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Precedence: list > > Reply-To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Palm OS\) Discussion List" > > > > Message: 1 > > > > Using Missing SYnc Mac OS /Palm 5 (treo 600) to access avantgo > > > > First, the system prefs check box in avantgo does not appear to work > > consistently > > > > "refresh all content" is always unmarked when i go to it to check > > prefs. So I check it. then do a synch that then doesn't work. I go back > > to prefs and the check box is once again not checked. Do I have have to > > check box each time? > > > > The avantgo program establishes a link and sends stuff to the server > > and then downloads and that countdown > > > > but then all i get is the welcome page suggesting if my channels do not > > appear try reyscnhing again (and again and again) > > > > my sych history at avantgo website looks like this > > > > Completely out of sync, resequencing... > > Web Content: OK > > Mammut: Do nothing > > > > Mon Jan 12, 2004 10:47:50 GMT-0800 - 537 seconds > > Size limit exceeded for channel - USATODAY.com > > Size limit exceeded for channel - New York Times - Technology > > HTTP/1.1 404 File not found.(404) - http://public.wsj.com/news/avan... > > Size limit exceeded for channel - The Sporting News > > Web Content: OK > > Mammut: Do nothing > > > > Mon Jan 12, 2004 10:47:45 GMT-0800 - 0 seconds > > Completely out of sync, resequencing... > > Web Content: OK > > Mammut: Do nothing > > > > I got rid of some of the chunkier channels but it still does not work > > and my usage is only 500 of 2000 kb > > > > I'd appreciate any advice or a faq that deals with avantgo directly. > > > > bgr > > > > Completely out of sync, resequencing... > > Web Content: OK > > Mammut: Do nothing > > > > Mon Jan 12, 2004 10:47:50 GMT-0800 - 537 seconds > > Size limit exceeded for channel - USATODAY.com > > Size limit exceeded for channel - New York Times - Technology > > HTTP/1.1 404 File not found.(404) - http://public.wsj.com/news/avan... > > Size limit exceeded for channel - The Sporting News > > Web Content: OK > > Mammut: Do nothing > > > > Mon Jan 12, 2004 10:47:45 GMT-0800 - 0 seconds > > Completely out of sync, resequencing... > > Web Content: OK > > Mammut: Do nothing > > ------------------------------ > > > >_______________________________________________ >missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be >found at: >http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk _________________________________________________________________ Rethink your business approach for the new year with the helpful tips here. http://special.msn.com/bcentral/prep04.armx From rgrim at willowsound.com Mon Jan 12 19:36:33 2004 From: rgrim at willowsound.com (Rodney Grim) Date: Fri Feb 13 19:28:49 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Avantgo problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Just thought I'd let you know that Avantgo works fine for me with Missing Sync. But like many things with networking and the Palm, it's very "multi-step". On Jan 12, 2004, at 6:30 PM, Jerry Zurek wrote: > I have never been successful syncing to Avantgo. > > I corresponded with the folks at MarkSpace many times but never > succeeded. I > gave up. Has anyone actually synced with Avantgo? > > I have MissingSync 2.0. > > I follow all the steps in the manual but when I get to "tap the Connect > button" in network prefs, it tries to sign on until I get error: PPP > timeout > (0x1231). > > My Service is Missing Sync. The details are > Connection type: PPP > Query DNS checked > IP address: Automatic checked. > > I have given up and am curious if this Avantgo really ever works. > > Thanks, > Jerry > Thanks, > -- > Jerry Zurek > > English & Communication Dept. > Cabrini College > http://pages.cabrini.edu/jzurek > > Sign up for advising at > http://email.calendars.net/jz > > >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. avantgo problem (Bill Gram-Reefer) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 11:21:44 -0800 >> From: Bill Gram-Reefer >> To: missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >> Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] avantgo problem >> Message-ID: <8ED6C239-4534-11D8-8213-0030654E6B14@worldviewpr.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; >> charset=US-ASCII; >> format=flowed >> MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> Precedence: list >> Reply-To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Palm OS\) Discussion List" >> >> Message: 1 >> >> Using Missing SYnc Mac OS /Palm 5 (treo 600) to access avantgo >> >> First, the system prefs check box in avantgo does not appear to work >> consistently >> >> "refresh all content" is always unmarked when i go to it to check >> prefs. So I check it. then do a synch that then doesn't work. I go >> back >> to prefs and the check box is once again not checked. Do I have have >> to >> check box each time? >> >> The avantgo program establishes a link and sends stuff to the server >> and then downloads and that countdown >> >> but then all i get is the welcome page suggesting if my channels do >> not >> appear try reyscnhing again (and again and again) >> >> my sych history at avantgo website looks like this >> >> Completely out of sync, resequencing... >> Web Content: OK >> Mammut: Do nothing >> >> Mon Jan 12, 2004 10:47:50 GMT-0800 - 537 seconds >> Size limit exceeded for channel - USATODAY.com >> Size limit exceeded for channel - New York Times - Technology >> HTTP/1.1 404 File not found.(404) - http://public.wsj.com/news/avan... >> Size limit exceeded for channel - The Sporting News >> Web Content: OK >> Mammut: Do nothing >> >> Mon Jan 12, 2004 10:47:45 GMT-0800 - 0 seconds >> Completely out of sync, resequencing... >> Web Content: OK >> Mammut: Do nothing >> >> I got rid of some of the chunkier channels but it still does not work >> and my usage is only 500 of 2000 kb >> >> I'd appreciate any advice or a faq that deals with avantgo directly. >> >> bgr >> >> Completely out of sync, resequencing... >> Web Content: OK >> Mammut: Do nothing >> >> Mon Jan 12, 2004 10:47:50 GMT-0800 - 537 seconds >> Size limit exceeded for channel - USATODAY.com >> Size limit exceeded for channel - New York Times - Technology >> HTTP/1.1 404 File not found.(404) - http://public.wsj.com/news/avan... >> Size limit exceeded for channel - The Sporting News >> Web Content: OK >> Mammut: Do nothing >> >> Mon Jan 12, 2004 10:47:45 GMT-0800 - 0 seconds >> Completely out of sync, resequencing... >> Web Content: OK >> Mammut: Do nothing >> ------------------------------ >> > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > From jason at ophiochos.org.uk Tue Jan 13 11:33:17 2004 From: jason at ophiochos.org.uk (Jason Davies) Date: Fri Feb 13 19:28:49 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Avantgo problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >Has anyone actually synced with Avantgo? I can't help you but I do this regularly on two different machines now. I had to hard reset the Palm twice to get Missing Sync to work but the internet sharing has always worked okay. I didn't even set the Connection settings, just Connect to PC via cradle and then select that in Avantgo Connect. I don't normally approve of 'works here' messages since they are irritating and unhelpful, but you did ask:-) From reefer at worldviewpr.com Tue Jan 13 13:17:45 2004 From: reefer at worldviewpr.com (Bill Gram-Reefer) Date: Fri Feb 13 19:28:49 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] mac does not recognize disk Message-ID: I have a 256 Mb SD disk in the Treo 600 I installed MS for Palm OS The disk appeared the first time on the Mac Finder. FIne Now it does not show up on the desktop and the mac claims it is unreadable and if you select intitalize you only see your own hard disk to re-initialize WHICH ONE SHOULD NOT DO. Disk appears OK in Treo. So between this and my Avantgo experience, these two issues both worked find first time but not since. any advice? bgr From esolot at quadnet.net Fri Jan 16 12:06:23 2004 From: esolot at quadnet.net (Evan Solot) Date: Fri Feb 13 19:28:49 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] panther hotsync Message-ID: hi everyone -\ pls excuse my naivete - i'm a newbie... i recently upgraded to panther and palm 4.1 and was unable to get a hotsync. i read about the missing link but can't figure out from the website which software i need or how to use it. please advise - thanks, evan From rthomas at uiuc.edu Fri Jan 16 17:25:09 2004 From: rthomas at uiuc.edu (Ryan Thomas) Date: Fri Feb 13 19:28:49 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] panther hotsync In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <39D925FB-487B-11D8-B7D1-000A95BC7C70@uiuc.edu> To get hotsync going again, install palm 4.1 as root. This may require setting a password for root if you haven't already. (Use "sudo passwd root" at command line.) -Ryan On Jan 16, 2004, at 11:06 AM, Evan Solot wrote: > hi everyone -\ > > pls excuse my naivete - i'm a newbie... > > i recently upgraded to panther and palm 4.1 and was unable to get a > hotsync. > i read about the missing link but can't figure out from the website > which > software i need or how to use it. > > please advise - > > thanks, > evan > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk From jason at ophiochos.org.uk Sat Jan 17 15:42:50 2004 From: jason at ophiochos.org.uk (Jason Davies) Date: Fri Feb 13 19:28:49 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] panther hotsync In-Reply-To: <39D925FB-487B-11D8-B7D1-000A95BC7C70@uiuc.edu> Message-ID: >To get hotsync going again, install palm 4.1 as root. This may >require setting a password for root if you haven't already. (Use >"sudo passwd root" at command line.) you can also do this without the command line using NetInfo manager. Let us know if you need instructions on this. and logging in as root should be treated with enormous respect. Don't do anything other than reinstall PD or you could have problems... From esolot at quadnet.net Sat Jan 17 11:51:30 2004 From: esolot at quadnet.net (Evan Solot) Date: Fri Feb 13 19:28:49 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] panther hotsync In-Reply-To: Message-ID: thanks, jason - but unfortunately, i have no clue as to what you're talking about. palm tech support wasn't able to help (they simply said that lots of people seem to have trouble hotsyncing in panther) and you seem to have the answer, but i don't have the knowledge to understand what you're saying. is there a step-by-step procedure for those of us with little computer knowledge. io'm not trotally technophobic - i have a pretty extensive midi/sampling studio and i make most of my living producing music for media. but i don't know much about computer technology... >> To get hotsync going again, install palm 4.1 as root. This may >> require setting a password for root if you haven't already. (Use >> "sudo passwd root" at command line.) > > > you can also do this without the command line using NetInfo manager. Let > us know if you need instructions on this. > > and logging in as root should be treated with enormous respect. Don't do > anything other than reinstall PD or you could have problems... > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk From jason at ophiochos.org.uk Sat Jan 17 18:58:19 2004 From: jason at ophiochos.org.uk (Jason Davies) Date: Fri Feb 13 19:28:49 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] panther hotsync In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >is there a step-by-step procedure for those of us with little computer >knowledge. io'm not trotally technophobic - i have a pretty extensive >midi/sampling studio and i make most of my living producing music for >media. but i don't know much about computer technology... 0) Print out these instruction or write them somewhere other than your computer! 1) quit all applications 2) open Netinfo manager in Utilities 3) Enable Root User (Security Menu) 4) Set a password 5) Quit Netinfo Manager and restart 6) log in (I think it says 'other' or you have to type 'root' or something similar: it won't show 'root' as an option directly) 7) Run the installer to *uninstall* Palm Desktop. 8) Run the installer to reinstall PD 9) Restart 10) Go to Netinfo manager and Disable Root user 11) See if it worked... I had to do this twice as I kept getting an error. I have yet to use BT for syncing with PD on X.3.2 which is a really really irritating situation as I went to a PB 12" AND a Tungsten almost purely to be able to sync over Bluetooth. But I can run it throught the cable. Once you get it working it seems to stick... best of luck From jason at ophiochos.org.uk Sat Jan 17 19:01:49 2004 From: jason at ophiochos.org.uk (Jason Davies) Date: Fri Feb 13 19:28:49 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] for admin's attention In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I have yet to post a message to this forum *without* getting a reply that a message went undelivered for some failure reason or another. I don't know if the administrator is around and can't find an address for them but it would be very agreeable if they could find a way of monitoring these and removing them; alternatively, how can I notify them (without going through the list) of these dead addresses? Thanks. From jason at ophiochos.org.uk Sat Jan 17 19:03:26 2004 From: jason at ophiochos.org.uk (Jason Davies) Date: Fri Feb 13 19:28:49 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] panther hotsync In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >1) quit all applications 2) open Netinfo manager in Utilities 3) >Enable Root User (Security Menu) 4) Set a password I forgot: decide on a password, write it down and keep it somewhere while you're doing this! I actually manage to forget it by the end of this procedure. That's what we techies usually refer to as 'very very bad thing to do'. From brian_hall at markspace.com Sat Jan 17 11:11:13 2004 From: brian_hall at markspace.com (Brian Hall) Date: Fri Feb 13 19:28:49 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] for admin's attention In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >I have yet to post a message to this forum *without* getting a reply >that a message went undelivered for some failure reason or another. I >don't know if the administrator is around and can't find an address for >them but it would be very agreeable if they could find a way of >monitoring these and removing them; alternatively, how can I notify them >(without going through the list) of these dead addresses? What happens is that you post to the list, it goes out to all the list members, and some of those addresses may be bad, or the person on vacation or whatever AND THAT PERSONS email client and/or server sends a message back to YOU (rather than the list). This is because they look at the FROM address (which is you) rather than the REPLY-TO address (which is the list). In the case where they (IMHO) properly pick the reply-to address, the bounce/vacation/whatever message goes back to the list server and is discarded. Since it isn't the list server sending you the message, there isn't a great deal we (running the list) can do about it. But we're open to ideas if we missed something. Brian -- _____________________________________________________________________ Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 540 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 Los Gatos, CA 95030 From jason at ophiochos.org.uk Sun Jan 18 00:27:38 2004 From: jason at ophiochos.org.uk (Jason Davies) Date: Fri Feb 13 19:28:49 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] for admin's attention In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >Since it isn't the list server sending you the message, there isn't a >great deal we (running the list) can do about it. But we're open to >ideas if we missed something. can't you remove them from the list, as administrator? I can do this for the lists I administer. I'd be very surprised if it wasn't possible here. From sgruby at markspace.com Sat Jan 17 16:33:46 2004 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Fri Feb 13 19:28:49 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] for admin's attention In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Jan 17, 2004, at 4:27 PM, Jason Davies wrote: >> Since it isn't the list server sending you the message, there isn't a >> great deal we (running the list) can do about it. But we're open to >> ideas if we missed something. > > > can't you remove them from the list, as administrator? I can do this > for > the lists I administer. I'd be very surprised if it wasn't possible > here. > The issue is that we don't know who they are. The bounces go directly to you and not to the administrators. -- Scott Gruby Please contact support@markspace.com for assistance with Mark/Space products. From sgruby at markspace.com Mon Jan 19 11:36:44 2004 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Fri Feb 13 19:28:49 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Nominate Missing Sync for Palm OS and/or Missing Sync for Internet for Palm OS Powered Up Awards Message-ID: PalmSource is seeking nominations for the 2004 US Palm Powered Up Awards. If you, like us at Mark/Space, feel that Missing Sync for Palm OS or Missing Sync for Internet and AvantGo is deserving of an award, please nominate it by visiting: Thanks for your support! -- Scott Gruby Please contact support@markspace.com for assistance with Mark/Space products. From benji24 at sbcglobal.net Sun Jan 25 18:28:29 2004 From: benji24 at sbcglobal.net (Danny Benjamin) Date: Fri Feb 13 19:28:49 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] join list Message-ID: <20040126022829.4719.qmail@web80601.mail.yahoo.com> yes From reefer at worldviewpr.com Mon Jan 12 11:21:44 2004 From: reefer at worldviewpr.com (Bill Gram-Reefer) Date: Fri Mar 19 09:51:59 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] avantgo problem Message-ID: <8ED6C239-4534-11D8-8213-0030654E6B14@worldviewpr.com> Using Missing SYnc Mac OS /Palm 5 (treo 600) to access avantgo First, the system prefs check box in avantgo does not appear to work consistently "refresh all content" is always unmarked when i go to it to check prefs. So I check it. then do a synch that then doesn't work. I go back to prefs and the check box is once again not checked. Do I have have to check box each time? The avantgo program establishes a link and sends stuff to the server and then downloads and that countdown but then all i get is the welcome page suggesting if my channels do not appear try reyscnhing again (and again and again) my sych history at avantgo website looks like this Completely out of sync, resequencing... Web Content: OK Mammut: Do nothing Mon Jan 12, 2004 10:47:50 GMT-0800 - 537 seconds Size limit exceeded for channel - USATODAY.com Size limit exceeded for channel - New York Times - Technology HTTP/1.1 404 File not found.(404) - http://public.wsj.com/news/avan... Size limit exceeded for channel - The Sporting News Web Content: OK Mammut: Do nothing Mon Jan 12, 2004 10:47:45 GMT-0800 - 0 seconds Completely out of sync, resequencing... Web Content: OK Mammut: Do nothing I got rid of some of the chunkier channels but it still does not work and my usage is only 500 of 2000 kb I'd appreciate any advice or a faq that deals with avantgo directly. bgr Completely out of sync, resequencing... Web Content: OK Mammut: Do nothing Mon Jan 12, 2004 10:47:50 GMT-0800 - 537 seconds Size limit exceeded for channel - USATODAY.com Size limit exceeded for channel - New York Times - Technology HTTP/1.1 404 File not found.(404) - http://public.wsj.com/news/avan... Size limit exceeded for channel - The Sporting News Web Content: OK Mammut: Do nothing Mon Jan 12, 2004 10:47:45 GMT-0800 - 0 seconds Completely out of sync, resequencing... Web Content: OK Mammut: Do nothing From jzurek at cabrini.edu Mon Jan 12 21:30:40 2004 From: jzurek at cabrini.edu (Jerry Zurek) Date: Fri Mar 19 09:51:59 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Avantgo problem In-Reply-To: <200401122002.i0CK2pm30492@markspace.vps.fluidhosting.com> Message-ID: I have never been successful syncing to Avantgo. I corresponded with the folks at MarkSpace many times but never succeeded. I gave up. Has anyone actually synced with Avantgo? I have MissingSync 2.0. I follow all the steps in the manual but when I get to "tap the Connect button" in network prefs, it tries to sign on until I get error: PPP timeout (0x1231). My Service is Missing Sync. The details are Connection type: PPP Query DNS checked IP address: Automatic checked. I have given up and am curious if this Avantgo really ever works. Thanks, Jerry Thanks, -- Jerry Zurek English & Communication Dept. Cabrini College http://pages.cabrini.edu/jzurek Sign up for advising at http://email.calendars.net/jz > > Today's Topics: > > 1. avantgo problem (Bill Gram-Reefer) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 11:21:44 -0800 > From: Bill Gram-Reefer > To: missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] avantgo problem > Message-ID: <8ED6C239-4534-11D8-8213-0030654E6B14@worldviewpr.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset=US-ASCII; > format=flowed > MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Precedence: list > Reply-To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Palm OS\) Discussion List" > > Message: 1 > > Using Missing SYnc Mac OS /Palm 5 (treo 600) to access avantgo > > First, the system prefs check box in avantgo does not appear to work > consistently > > "refresh all content" is always unmarked when i go to it to check > prefs. So I check it. then do a synch that then doesn't work. I go back > to prefs and the check box is once again not checked. Do I have have to > check box each time? > > The avantgo program establishes a link and sends stuff to the server > and then downloads and that countdown > > but then all i get is the welcome page suggesting if my channels do not > appear try reyscnhing again (and again and again) > > my sych history at avantgo website looks like this > > Completely out of sync, resequencing... > Web Content: OK > Mammut: Do nothing > > Mon Jan 12, 2004 10:47:50 GMT-0800 - 537 seconds > Size limit exceeded for channel - USATODAY.com > Size limit exceeded for channel - New York Times - Technology > HTTP/1.1 404 File not found.(404) - http://public.wsj.com/news/avan... > Size limit exceeded for channel - The Sporting News > Web Content: OK > Mammut: Do nothing > > Mon Jan 12, 2004 10:47:45 GMT-0800 - 0 seconds > Completely out of sync, resequencing... > Web Content: OK > Mammut: Do nothing > > I got rid of some of the chunkier channels but it still does not work > and my usage is only 500 of 2000 kb > > I'd appreciate any advice or a faq that deals with avantgo directly. > > bgr > > Completely out of sync, resequencing... > Web Content: OK > Mammut: Do nothing > > Mon Jan 12, 2004 10:47:50 GMT-0800 - 537 seconds > Size limit exceeded for channel - USATODAY.com > Size limit exceeded for channel - New York Times - Technology > HTTP/1.1 404 File not found.(404) - http://public.wsj.com/news/avan... > Size limit exceeded for channel - The Sporting News > Web Content: OK > Mammut: Do nothing > > Mon Jan 12, 2004 10:47:45 GMT-0800 - 0 seconds > Completely out of sync, resequencing... > Web Content: OK > Mammut: Do nothing > ------------------------------ > From nicou5 at hotmail.com Tue Jan 13 02:57:23 2004 From: nicou5 at hotmail.com (Veronique Richard) Date: Fri Mar 19 09:51:59 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Avantgo problem Message-ID: Jerry, I'm totally with you, I've had the same problem have exchanged email with markspace not getting anywhere, I've just emailed them today in response to yet a general answer after I left a voicemail message, I'm giving up myself. If I'm not getting anywhere by the end of the week I'm asking for my money back! Sorry to ventilate like that, but if you're getting an answer and it works, please please let me know. Thanks Veronique Véronique Richard nicou5@hotmail.com >From: Jerry Zurek >Reply-To: "The Missing Sync (Mac/Palm OS) Discussion >List" >To: >Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Avantgo problem >Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 21:30:40 -0500 > >I have never been successful syncing to Avantgo. > >I corresponded with the folks at MarkSpace many times but never succeeded. >I >gave up. Has anyone actually synced with Avantgo? > >I have MissingSync 2.0. > >I follow all the steps in the manual but when I get to "tap the Connect >button" in network prefs, it tries to sign on until I get error: PPP >timeout >(0x1231). > >My Service is Missing Sync. The details are >Connection type: PPP >Query DNS checked >IP address: Automatic checked. > >I have given up and am curious if this Avantgo really ever works. > >Thanks, >Jerry >Thanks, >-- >Jerry Zurek > >English & Communication Dept. >Cabrini College >http://pages.cabrini.edu/jzurek > >Sign up for advising at >http://email.calendars.net/jz > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. avantgo problem (Bill Gram-Reefer) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 11:21:44 -0800 > > From: Bill Gram-Reefer > > To: missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > > Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] avantgo problem > > Message-ID: <8ED6C239-4534-11D8-8213-0030654E6B14@worldviewpr.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; > > charset=US-ASCII; > > format=flowed > > MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Precedence: list > > Reply-To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Palm OS\) Discussion List" > > > > Message: 1 > > > > Using Missing SYnc Mac OS /Palm 5 (treo 600) to access avantgo > > > > First, the system prefs check box in avantgo does not appear to work > > consistently > > > > "refresh all content" is always unmarked when i go to it to check > > prefs. So I check it. then do a synch that then doesn't work. I go back > > to prefs and the check box is once again not checked. Do I have have to > > check box each time? > > > > The avantgo program establishes a link and sends stuff to the server > > and then downloads and that countdown > > > > but then all i get is the welcome page suggesting if my channels do not > > appear try reyscnhing again (and again and again) > > > > my sych history at avantgo website looks like this > > > > Completely out of sync, resequencing... > > Web Content: OK > > Mammut: Do nothing > > > > Mon Jan 12, 2004 10:47:50 GMT-0800 - 537 seconds > > Size limit exceeded for channel - USATODAY.com > > Size limit exceeded for channel - New York Times - Technology > > HTTP/1.1 404 File not found.(404) - http://public.wsj.com/news/avan... > > Size limit exceeded for channel - The Sporting News > > Web Content: OK > > Mammut: Do nothing > > > > Mon Jan 12, 2004 10:47:45 GMT-0800 - 0 seconds > > Completely out of sync, resequencing... > > Web Content: OK > > Mammut: Do nothing > > > > I got rid of some of the chunkier channels but it still does not work > > and my usage is only 500 of 2000 kb > > > > I'd appreciate any advice or a faq that deals with avantgo directly. > > > > bgr > > > > Completely out of sync, resequencing... > > Web Content: OK > > Mammut: Do nothing > > > > Mon Jan 12, 2004 10:47:50 GMT-0800 - 537 seconds > > Size limit exceeded for channel - USATODAY.com > > Size limit exceeded for channel - New York Times - Technology > > HTTP/1.1 404 File not found.(404) - http://public.wsj.com/news/avan... > > Size limit exceeded for channel - The Sporting News > > Web Content: OK > > Mammut: Do nothing > > > > Mon Jan 12, 2004 10:47:45 GMT-0800 - 0 seconds > > Completely out of sync, resequencing... > > Web Content: OK > > Mammut: Do nothing > > ------------------------------ > > > >_______________________________________________ >missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be >found at: >http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk _________________________________________________________________ Rethink your business approach for the new year with the helpful tips here. http://special.msn.com/bcentral/prep04.armx From rgrim at willowsound.com Mon Jan 12 19:36:33 2004 From: rgrim at willowsound.com (Rodney Grim) Date: Fri Mar 19 09:51:59 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Avantgo problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Just thought I'd let you know that Avantgo works fine for me with Missing Sync. But like many things with networking and the Palm, it's very "multi-step". On Jan 12, 2004, at 6:30 PM, Jerry Zurek wrote: > I have never been successful syncing to Avantgo. > > I corresponded with the folks at MarkSpace many times but never > succeeded. I > gave up. Has anyone actually synced with Avantgo? > > I have MissingSync 2.0. > > I follow all the steps in the manual but when I get to "tap the Connect > button" in network prefs, it tries to sign on until I get error: PPP > timeout > (0x1231). > > My Service is Missing Sync. The details are > Connection type: PPP > Query DNS checked > IP address: Automatic checked. > > I have given up and am curious if this Avantgo really ever works. > > Thanks, > Jerry > Thanks, > -- > Jerry Zurek > > English & Communication Dept. > Cabrini College > http://pages.cabrini.edu/jzurek > > Sign up for advising at > http://email.calendars.net/jz > > >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. avantgo problem (Bill Gram-Reefer) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 11:21:44 -0800 >> From: Bill Gram-Reefer >> To: missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >> Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] avantgo problem >> Message-ID: <8ED6C239-4534-11D8-8213-0030654E6B14@worldviewpr.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; >> charset=US-ASCII; >> format=flowed >> MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> Precedence: list >> Reply-To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Palm OS\) Discussion List" >> >> Message: 1 >> >> Using Missing SYnc Mac OS /Palm 5 (treo 600) to access avantgo >> >> First, the system prefs check box in avantgo does not appear to work >> consistently >> >> "refresh all content" is always unmarked when i go to it to check >> prefs. So I check it. then do a synch that then doesn't work. I go >> back >> to prefs and the check box is once again not checked. Do I have have >> to >> check box each time? >> >> The avantgo program establishes a link and sends stuff to the server >> and then downloads and that countdown >> >> but then all i get is the welcome page suggesting if my channels do >> not >> appear try reyscnhing again (and again and again) >> >> my sych history at avantgo website looks like this >> >> Completely out of sync, resequencing... >> Web Content: OK >> Mammut: Do nothing >> >> Mon Jan 12, 2004 10:47:50 GMT-0800 - 537 seconds >> Size limit exceeded for channel - USATODAY.com >> Size limit exceeded for channel - New York Times - Technology >> HTTP/1.1 404 File not found.(404) - http://public.wsj.com/news/avan... >> Size limit exceeded for channel - The Sporting News >> Web Content: OK >> Mammut: Do nothing >> >> Mon Jan 12, 2004 10:47:45 GMT-0800 - 0 seconds >> Completely out of sync, resequencing... >> Web Content: OK >> Mammut: Do nothing >> >> I got rid of some of the chunkier channels but it still does not work >> and my usage is only 500 of 2000 kb >> >> I'd appreciate any advice or a faq that deals with avantgo directly. >> >> bgr >> >> Completely out of sync, resequencing... >> Web Content: OK >> Mammut: Do nothing >> >> Mon Jan 12, 2004 10:47:50 GMT-0800 - 537 seconds >> Size limit exceeded for channel - USATODAY.com >> Size limit exceeded for channel - New York Times - Technology >> HTTP/1.1 404 File not found.(404) - http://public.wsj.com/news/avan... >> Size limit exceeded for channel - The Sporting News >> Web Content: OK >> Mammut: Do nothing >> >> Mon Jan 12, 2004 10:47:45 GMT-0800 - 0 seconds >> Completely out of sync, resequencing... >> Web Content: OK >> Mammut: Do nothing >> ------------------------------ >> > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > From jason at ophiochos.org.uk Tue Jan 13 11:33:17 2004 From: jason at ophiochos.org.uk (Jason Davies) Date: Fri Mar 19 09:51:59 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Avantgo problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >Has anyone actually synced with Avantgo? I can't help you but I do this regularly on two different machines now. I had to hard reset the Palm twice to get Missing Sync to work but the internet sharing has always worked okay. I didn't even set the Connection settings, just Connect to PC via cradle and then select that in Avantgo Connect. I don't normally approve of 'works here' messages since they are irritating and unhelpful, but you did ask:-) From reefer at worldviewpr.com Tue Jan 13 13:17:45 2004 From: reefer at worldviewpr.com (Bill Gram-Reefer) Date: Fri Mar 19 09:51:59 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] mac does not recognize disk Message-ID: I have a 256 Mb SD disk in the Treo 600 I installed MS for Palm OS The disk appeared the first time on the Mac Finder. FIne Now it does not show up on the desktop and the mac claims it is unreadable and if you select intitalize you only see your own hard disk to re-initialize WHICH ONE SHOULD NOT DO. Disk appears OK in Treo. So between this and my Avantgo experience, these two issues both worked find first time but not since. any advice? bgr From esolot at quadnet.net Fri Jan 16 12:06:23 2004 From: esolot at quadnet.net (Evan Solot) Date: Fri Mar 19 09:51:59 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] panther hotsync Message-ID: hi everyone -\ pls excuse my naivete - i'm a newbie... i recently upgraded to panther and palm 4.1 and was unable to get a hotsync. i read about the missing link but can't figure out from the website which software i need or how to use it. please advise - thanks, evan From rthomas at uiuc.edu Fri Jan 16 17:25:09 2004 From: rthomas at uiuc.edu (Ryan Thomas) Date: Fri Mar 19 09:51:59 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] panther hotsync In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <39D925FB-487B-11D8-B7D1-000A95BC7C70@uiuc.edu> To get hotsync going again, install palm 4.1 as root. This may require setting a password for root if you haven't already. (Use "sudo passwd root" at command line.) -Ryan On Jan 16, 2004, at 11:06 AM, Evan Solot wrote: > hi everyone -\ > > pls excuse my naivete - i'm a newbie... > > i recently upgraded to panther and palm 4.1 and was unable to get a > hotsync. > i read about the missing link but can't figure out from the website > which > software i need or how to use it. > > please advise - > > thanks, > evan > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk From jason at ophiochos.org.uk Sat Jan 17 15:42:50 2004 From: jason at ophiochos.org.uk (Jason Davies) Date: Fri Mar 19 09:51:59 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] panther hotsync In-Reply-To: <39D925FB-487B-11D8-B7D1-000A95BC7C70@uiuc.edu> Message-ID: >To get hotsync going again, install palm 4.1 as root. This may >require setting a password for root if you haven't already. (Use >"sudo passwd root" at command line.) you can also do this without the command line using NetInfo manager. Let us know if you need instructions on this. and logging in as root should be treated with enormous respect. Don't do anything other than reinstall PD or you could have problems... From esolot at quadnet.net Sat Jan 17 11:51:30 2004 From: esolot at quadnet.net (Evan Solot) Date: Fri Mar 19 09:51:59 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] panther hotsync In-Reply-To: Message-ID: thanks, jason - but unfortunately, i have no clue as to what you're talking about. palm tech support wasn't able to help (they simply said that lots of people seem to have trouble hotsyncing in panther) and you seem to have the answer, but i don't have the knowledge to understand what you're saying. is there a step-by-step procedure for those of us with little computer knowledge. io'm not trotally technophobic - i have a pretty extensive midi/sampling studio and i make most of my living producing music for media. but i don't know much about computer technology... >> To get hotsync going again, install palm 4.1 as root. This may >> require setting a password for root if you haven't already. (Use >> "sudo passwd root" at command line.) > > > you can also do this without the command line using NetInfo manager. Let > us know if you need instructions on this. > > and logging in as root should be treated with enormous respect. Don't do > anything other than reinstall PD or you could have problems... > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk From jason at ophiochos.org.uk Sat Jan 17 18:58:19 2004 From: jason at ophiochos.org.uk (Jason Davies) Date: Fri Mar 19 09:51:59 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] panther hotsync In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >is there a step-by-step procedure for those of us with little computer >knowledge. io'm not trotally technophobic - i have a pretty extensive >midi/sampling studio and i make most of my living producing music for >media. but i don't know much about computer technology... 0) Print out these instruction or write them somewhere other than your computer! 1) quit all applications 2) open Netinfo manager in Utilities 3) Enable Root User (Security Menu) 4) Set a password 5) Quit Netinfo Manager and restart 6) log in (I think it says 'other' or you have to type 'root' or something similar: it won't show 'root' as an option directly) 7) Run the installer to *uninstall* Palm Desktop. 8) Run the installer to reinstall PD 9) Restart 10) Go to Netinfo manager and Disable Root user 11) See if it worked... I had to do this twice as I kept getting an error. I have yet to use BT for syncing with PD on X.3.2 which is a really really irritating situation as I went to a PB 12" AND a Tungsten almost purely to be able to sync over Bluetooth. But I can run it throught the cable. Once you get it working it seems to stick... best of luck From jason at ophiochos.org.uk Sat Jan 17 19:01:49 2004 From: jason at ophiochos.org.uk (Jason Davies) Date: Fri Mar 19 09:51:59 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] for admin's attention In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I have yet to post a message to this forum *without* getting a reply that a message went undelivered for some failure reason or another. I don't know if the administrator is around and can't find an address for them but it would be very agreeable if they could find a way of monitoring these and removing them; alternatively, how can I notify them (without going through the list) of these dead addresses? Thanks. From jason at ophiochos.org.uk Sat Jan 17 19:03:26 2004 From: jason at ophiochos.org.uk (Jason Davies) Date: Fri Mar 19 09:51:59 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] panther hotsync In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >1) quit all applications 2) open Netinfo manager in Utilities 3) >Enable Root User (Security Menu) 4) Set a password I forgot: decide on a password, write it down and keep it somewhere while you're doing this! I actually manage to forget it by the end of this procedure. That's what we techies usually refer to as 'very very bad thing to do'. From brian_hall at markspace.com Sat Jan 17 11:11:13 2004 From: brian_hall at markspace.com (Brian Hall) Date: Fri Mar 19 09:51:59 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] for admin's attention In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >I have yet to post a message to this forum *without* getting a reply >that a message went undelivered for some failure reason or another. I >don't know if the administrator is around and can't find an address for >them but it would be very agreeable if they could find a way of >monitoring these and removing them; alternatively, how can I notify them >(without going through the list) of these dead addresses? What happens is that you post to the list, it goes out to all the list members, and some of those addresses may be bad, or the person on vacation or whatever AND THAT PERSONS email client and/or server sends a message back to YOU (rather than the list). This is because they look at the FROM address (which is you) rather than the REPLY-TO address (which is the list). In the case where they (IMHO) properly pick the reply-to address, the bounce/vacation/whatever message goes back to the list server and is discarded. Since it isn't the list server sending you the message, there isn't a great deal we (running the list) can do about it. But we're open to ideas if we missed something. Brian -- _____________________________________________________________________ Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 540 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 Los Gatos, CA 95030 From jason at ophiochos.org.uk Sun Jan 18 00:27:38 2004 From: jason at ophiochos.org.uk (Jason Davies) Date: Fri Mar 19 09:51:59 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] for admin's attention In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >Since it isn't the list server sending you the message, there isn't a >great deal we (running the list) can do about it. But we're open to >ideas if we missed something. can't you remove them from the list, as administrator? I can do this for the lists I administer. I'd be very surprised if it wasn't possible here. From sgruby at markspace.com Sat Jan 17 16:33:46 2004 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Fri Mar 19 09:51:59 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] for admin's attention In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Jan 17, 2004, at 4:27 PM, Jason Davies wrote: >> Since it isn't the list server sending you the message, there isn't a >> great deal we (running the list) can do about it. But we're open to >> ideas if we missed something. > > > can't you remove them from the list, as administrator? I can do this > for > the lists I administer. I'd be very surprised if it wasn't possible > here. > The issue is that we don't know who they are. The bounces go directly to you and not to the administrators. -- Scott Gruby Please contact support@markspace.com for assistance with Mark/Space products. From sgruby at markspace.com Mon Jan 19 11:36:44 2004 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Fri Mar 19 09:51:59 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Nominate Missing Sync for Palm OS and/or Missing Sync for Internet for Palm OS Powered Up Awards Message-ID: PalmSource is seeking nominations for the 2004 US Palm Powered Up Awards. If you, like us at Mark/Space, feel that Missing Sync for Palm OS or Missing Sync for Internet and AvantGo is deserving of an award, please nominate it by visiting: Thanks for your support! -- Scott Gruby Please contact support@markspace.com for assistance with Mark/Space products. From benji24 at sbcglobal.net Sun Jan 25 18:28:29 2004 From: benji24 at sbcglobal.net (Danny Benjamin) Date: Fri Mar 19 09:51:59 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] join list Message-ID: <20040126022829.4719.qmail@web80601.mail.yahoo.com> yes From reefer at worldviewpr.com Mon Jan 12 11:21:44 2004 From: reefer at worldviewpr.com (Bill Gram-Reefer) Date: Thu Mar 25 23:00:37 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] avantgo problem Message-ID: <8ED6C239-4534-11D8-8213-0030654E6B14@worldviewpr.com> Using Missing SYnc Mac OS /Palm 5 (treo 600) to access avantgo First, the system prefs check box in avantgo does not appear to work consistently "refresh all content" is always unmarked when i go to it to check prefs. So I check it. then do a synch that then doesn't work. I go back to prefs and the check box is once again not checked. Do I have have to check box each time? The avantgo program establishes a link and sends stuff to the server and then downloads and that countdown but then all i get is the welcome page suggesting if my channels do not appear try reyscnhing again (and again and again) my sych history at avantgo website looks like this Completely out of sync, resequencing... Web Content: OK Mammut: Do nothing Mon Jan 12, 2004 10:47:50 GMT-0800 - 537 seconds Size limit exceeded for channel - USATODAY.com Size limit exceeded for channel - New York Times - Technology HTTP/1.1 404 File not found.(404) - http://public.wsj.com/news/avan... Size limit exceeded for channel - The Sporting News Web Content: OK Mammut: Do nothing Mon Jan 12, 2004 10:47:45 GMT-0800 - 0 seconds Completely out of sync, resequencing... Web Content: OK Mammut: Do nothing I got rid of some of the chunkier channels but it still does not work and my usage is only 500 of 2000 kb I'd appreciate any advice or a faq that deals with avantgo directly. bgr Completely out of sync, resequencing... Web Content: OK Mammut: Do nothing Mon Jan 12, 2004 10:47:50 GMT-0800 - 537 seconds Size limit exceeded for channel - USATODAY.com Size limit exceeded for channel - New York Times - Technology HTTP/1.1 404 File not found.(404) - http://public.wsj.com/news/avan... Size limit exceeded for channel - The Sporting News Web Content: OK Mammut: Do nothing Mon Jan 12, 2004 10:47:45 GMT-0800 - 0 seconds Completely out of sync, resequencing... Web Content: OK Mammut: Do nothing From jzurek at cabrini.edu Mon Jan 12 21:30:40 2004 From: jzurek at cabrini.edu (Jerry Zurek) Date: Thu Mar 25 23:00:37 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Avantgo problem In-Reply-To: <200401122002.i0CK2pm30492@markspace.vps.fluidhosting.com> Message-ID: I have never been successful syncing to Avantgo. I corresponded with the folks at MarkSpace many times but never succeeded. I gave up. Has anyone actually synced with Avantgo? I have MissingSync 2.0. I follow all the steps in the manual but when I get to "tap the Connect button" in network prefs, it tries to sign on until I get error: PPP timeout (0x1231). My Service is Missing Sync. The details are Connection type: PPP Query DNS checked IP address: Automatic checked. I have given up and am curious if this Avantgo really ever works. Thanks, Jerry Thanks, -- Jerry Zurek English & Communication Dept. Cabrini College http://pages.cabrini.edu/jzurek Sign up for advising at http://email.calendars.net/jz > > Today's Topics: > > 1. avantgo problem (Bill Gram-Reefer) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 11:21:44 -0800 > From: Bill Gram-Reefer > To: missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] avantgo problem > Message-ID: <8ED6C239-4534-11D8-8213-0030654E6B14@worldviewpr.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset=US-ASCII; > format=flowed > MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Precedence: list > Reply-To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Palm OS\) Discussion List" > > Message: 1 > > Using Missing SYnc Mac OS /Palm 5 (treo 600) to access avantgo > > First, the system prefs check box in avantgo does not appear to work > consistently > > "refresh all content" is always unmarked when i go to it to check > prefs. So I check it. then do a synch that then doesn't work. I go back > to prefs and the check box is once again not checked. Do I have have to > check box each time? > > The avantgo program establishes a link and sends stuff to the server > and then downloads and that countdown > > but then all i get is the welcome page suggesting if my channels do not > appear try reyscnhing again (and again and again) > > my sych history at avantgo website looks like this > > Completely out of sync, resequencing... > Web Content: OK > Mammut: Do nothing > > Mon Jan 12, 2004 10:47:50 GMT-0800 - 537 seconds > Size limit exceeded for channel - USATODAY.com > Size limit exceeded for channel - New York Times - Technology > HTTP/1.1 404 File not found.(404) - http://public.wsj.com/news/avan... > Size limit exceeded for channel - The Sporting News > Web Content: OK > Mammut: Do nothing > > Mon Jan 12, 2004 10:47:45 GMT-0800 - 0 seconds > Completely out of sync, resequencing... > Web Content: OK > Mammut: Do nothing > > I got rid of some of the chunkier channels but it still does not work > and my usage is only 500 of 2000 kb > > I'd appreciate any advice or a faq that deals with avantgo directly. > > bgr > > Completely out of sync, resequencing... > Web Content: OK > Mammut: Do nothing > > Mon Jan 12, 2004 10:47:50 GMT-0800 - 537 seconds > Size limit exceeded for channel - USATODAY.com > Size limit exceeded for channel - New York Times - Technology > HTTP/1.1 404 File not found.(404) - http://public.wsj.com/news/avan... > Size limit exceeded for channel - The Sporting News > Web Content: OK > Mammut: Do nothing > > Mon Jan 12, 2004 10:47:45 GMT-0800 - 0 seconds > Completely out of sync, resequencing... > Web Content: OK > Mammut: Do nothing > ------------------------------ > From nicou5 at hotmail.com Tue Jan 13 02:57:23 2004 From: nicou5 at hotmail.com (Veronique Richard) Date: Thu Mar 25 23:00:45 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Avantgo problem Message-ID: Jerry, I'm totally with you, I've had the same problem have exchanged email with markspace not getting anywhere, I've just emailed them today in response to yet a general answer after I left a voicemail message, I'm giving up myself. If I'm not getting anywhere by the end of the week I'm asking for my money back! Sorry to ventilate like that, but if you're getting an answer and it works, please please let me know. Thanks Veronique Véronique Richard nicou5@hotmail.com >From: Jerry Zurek >Reply-To: "The Missing Sync (Mac/Palm OS) Discussion >List" >To: >Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Avantgo problem >Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 21:30:40 -0500 > >I have never been successful syncing to Avantgo. > >I corresponded with the folks at MarkSpace many times but never succeeded. >I >gave up. Has anyone actually synced with Avantgo? > >I have MissingSync 2.0. > >I follow all the steps in the manual but when I get to "tap the Connect >button" in network prefs, it tries to sign on until I get error: PPP >timeout >(0x1231). > >My Service is Missing Sync. The details are >Connection type: PPP >Query DNS checked >IP address: Automatic checked. > >I have given up and am curious if this Avantgo really ever works. > >Thanks, >Jerry >Thanks, >-- >Jerry Zurek > >English & Communication Dept. >Cabrini College >http://pages.cabrini.edu/jzurek > >Sign up for advising at >http://email.calendars.net/jz > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. avantgo problem (Bill Gram-Reefer) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 11:21:44 -0800 > > From: Bill Gram-Reefer > > To: missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > > Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] avantgo problem > > Message-ID: <8ED6C239-4534-11D8-8213-0030654E6B14@worldviewpr.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; > > charset=US-ASCII; > > format=flowed > > MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Precedence: list > > Reply-To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Palm OS\) Discussion List" > > > > Message: 1 > > > > Using Missing SYnc Mac OS /Palm 5 (treo 600) to access avantgo > > > > First, the system prefs check box in avantgo does not appear to work > > consistently > > > > "refresh all content" is always unmarked when i go to it to check > > prefs. So I check it. then do a synch that then doesn't work. I go back > > to prefs and the check box is once again not checked. Do I have have to > > check box each time? > > > > The avantgo program establishes a link and sends stuff to the server > > and then downloads and that countdown > > > > but then all i get is the welcome page suggesting if my channels do not > > appear try reyscnhing again (and again and again) > > > > my sych history at avantgo website looks like this > > > > Completely out of sync, resequencing... > > Web Content: OK > > Mammut: Do nothing > > > > Mon Jan 12, 2004 10:47:50 GMT-0800 - 537 seconds > > Size limit exceeded for channel - USATODAY.com > > Size limit exceeded for channel - New York Times - Technology > > HTTP/1.1 404 File not found.(404) - http://public.wsj.com/news/avan... > > Size limit exceeded for channel - The Sporting News > > Web Content: OK > > Mammut: Do nothing > > > > Mon Jan 12, 2004 10:47:45 GMT-0800 - 0 seconds > > Completely out of sync, resequencing... > > Web Content: OK > > Mammut: Do nothing > > > > I got rid of some of the chunkier channels but it still does not work > > and my usage is only 500 of 2000 kb > > > > I'd appreciate any advice or a faq that deals with avantgo directly. > > > > bgr > > > > Completely out of sync, resequencing... > > Web Content: OK > > Mammut: Do nothing > > > > Mon Jan 12, 2004 10:47:50 GMT-0800 - 537 seconds > > Size limit exceeded for channel - USATODAY.com > > Size limit exceeded for channel - New York Times - Technology > > HTTP/1.1 404 File not found.(404) - http://public.wsj.com/news/avan... > > Size limit exceeded for channel - The Sporting News > > Web Content: OK > > Mammut: Do nothing > > > > Mon Jan 12, 2004 10:47:45 GMT-0800 - 0 seconds > > Completely out of sync, resequencing... > > Web Content: OK > > Mammut: Do nothing > > ------------------------------ > > > >_______________________________________________ >missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be >found at: >http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk _________________________________________________________________ Rethink your business approach for the new year with the helpful tips here. http://special.msn.com/bcentral/prep04.armx From rgrim at willowsound.com Mon Jan 12 19:36:33 2004 From: rgrim at willowsound.com (Rodney Grim) Date: Thu Mar 25 23:00:45 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Avantgo problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Just thought I'd let you know that Avantgo works fine for me with Missing Sync. But like many things with networking and the Palm, it's very "multi-step". On Jan 12, 2004, at 6:30 PM, Jerry Zurek wrote: > I have never been successful syncing to Avantgo. > > I corresponded with the folks at MarkSpace many times but never > succeeded. I > gave up. Has anyone actually synced with Avantgo? > > I have MissingSync 2.0. > > I follow all the steps in the manual but when I get to "tap the Connect > button" in network prefs, it tries to sign on until I get error: PPP > timeout > (0x1231). > > My Service is Missing Sync. The details are > Connection type: PPP > Query DNS checked > IP address: Automatic checked. > > I have given up and am curious if this Avantgo really ever works. > > Thanks, > Jerry > Thanks, > -- > Jerry Zurek > > English & Communication Dept. > Cabrini College > http://pages.cabrini.edu/jzurek > > Sign up for advising at > http://email.calendars.net/jz > > >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. avantgo problem (Bill Gram-Reefer) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 11:21:44 -0800 >> From: Bill Gram-Reefer >> To: missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >> Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] avantgo problem >> Message-ID: <8ED6C239-4534-11D8-8213-0030654E6B14@worldviewpr.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; >> charset=US-ASCII; >> format=flowed >> MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> Precedence: list >> Reply-To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Palm OS\) Discussion List" >> >> Message: 1 >> >> Using Missing SYnc Mac OS /Palm 5 (treo 600) to access avantgo >> >> First, the system prefs check box in avantgo does not appear to work >> consistently >> >> "refresh all content" is always unmarked when i go to it to check >> prefs. So I check it. then do a synch that then doesn't work. I go >> back >> to prefs and the check box is once again not checked. Do I have have >> to >> check box each time? >> >> The avantgo program establishes a link and sends stuff to the server >> and then downloads and that countdown >> >> but then all i get is the welcome page suggesting if my channels do >> not >> appear try reyscnhing again (and again and again) >> >> my sych history at avantgo website looks like this >> >> Completely out of sync, resequencing... >> Web Content: OK >> Mammut: Do nothing >> >> Mon Jan 12, 2004 10:47:50 GMT-0800 - 537 seconds >> Size limit exceeded for channel - USATODAY.com >> Size limit exceeded for channel - New York Times - Technology >> HTTP/1.1 404 File not found.(404) - http://public.wsj.com/news/avan... >> Size limit exceeded for channel - The Sporting News >> Web Content: OK >> Mammut: Do nothing >> >> Mon Jan 12, 2004 10:47:45 GMT-0800 - 0 seconds >> Completely out of sync, resequencing... >> Web Content: OK >> Mammut: Do nothing >> >> I got rid of some of the chunkier channels but it still does not work >> and my usage is only 500 of 2000 kb >> >> I'd appreciate any advice or a faq that deals with avantgo directly. >> >> bgr >> >> Completely out of sync, resequencing... >> Web Content: OK >> Mammut: Do nothing >> >> Mon Jan 12, 2004 10:47:50 GMT-0800 - 537 seconds >> Size limit exceeded for channel - USATODAY.com >> Size limit exceeded for channel - New York Times - Technology >> HTTP/1.1 404 File not found.(404) - http://public.wsj.com/news/avan... >> Size limit exceeded for channel - The Sporting News >> Web Content: OK >> Mammut: Do nothing >> >> Mon Jan 12, 2004 10:47:45 GMT-0800 - 0 seconds >> Completely out of sync, resequencing... >> Web Content: OK >> Mammut: Do nothing >> ------------------------------ >> > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > From jason at ophiochos.org.uk Tue Jan 13 11:33:17 2004 From: jason at ophiochos.org.uk (Jason Davies) Date: Thu Mar 25 23:00:45 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Avantgo problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >Has anyone actually synced with Avantgo? I can't help you but I do this regularly on two different machines now. I had to hard reset the Palm twice to get Missing Sync to work but the internet sharing has always worked okay. I didn't even set the Connection settings, just Connect to PC via cradle and then select that in Avantgo Connect. I don't normally approve of 'works here' messages since they are irritating and unhelpful, but you did ask:-) From reefer at worldviewpr.com Tue Jan 13 13:17:45 2004 From: reefer at worldviewpr.com (Bill Gram-Reefer) Date: Thu Mar 25 23:00:45 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] mac does not recognize disk Message-ID: I have a 256 Mb SD disk in the Treo 600 I installed MS for Palm OS The disk appeared the first time on the Mac Finder. FIne Now it does not show up on the desktop and the mac claims it is unreadable and if you select intitalize you only see your own hard disk to re-initialize WHICH ONE SHOULD NOT DO. Disk appears OK in Treo. So between this and my Avantgo experience, these two issues both worked find first time but not since. any advice? bgr From esolot at quadnet.net Fri Jan 16 12:06:23 2004 From: esolot at quadnet.net (Evan Solot) Date: Thu Mar 25 23:00:45 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] panther hotsync Message-ID: hi everyone -\ pls excuse my naivete - i'm a newbie... i recently upgraded to panther and palm 4.1 and was unable to get a hotsync. i read about the missing link but can't figure out from the website which software i need or how to use it. please advise - thanks, evan From rthomas at uiuc.edu Fri Jan 16 17:25:09 2004 From: rthomas at uiuc.edu (Ryan Thomas) Date: Thu Mar 25 23:00:45 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] panther hotsync In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <39D925FB-487B-11D8-B7D1-000A95BC7C70@uiuc.edu> To get hotsync going again, install palm 4.1 as root. This may require setting a password for root if you haven't already. (Use "sudo passwd root" at command line.) -Ryan On Jan 16, 2004, at 11:06 AM, Evan Solot wrote: > hi everyone -\ > > pls excuse my naivete - i'm a newbie... > > i recently upgraded to panther and palm 4.1 and was unable to get a > hotsync. > i read about the missing link but can't figure out from the website > which > software i need or how to use it. > > please advise - > > thanks, > evan > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk From jason at ophiochos.org.uk Sat Jan 17 15:42:50 2004 From: jason at ophiochos.org.uk (Jason Davies) Date: Thu Mar 25 23:00:45 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] panther hotsync In-Reply-To: <39D925FB-487B-11D8-B7D1-000A95BC7C70@uiuc.edu> Message-ID: >To get hotsync going again, install palm 4.1 as root. This may >require setting a password for root if you haven't already. (Use >"sudo passwd root" at command line.) you can also do this without the command line using NetInfo manager. Let us know if you need instructions on this. and logging in as root should be treated with enormous respect. Don't do anything other than reinstall PD or you could have problems... From esolot at quadnet.net Sat Jan 17 11:51:30 2004 From: esolot at quadnet.net (Evan Solot) Date: Thu Mar 25 23:00:45 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] panther hotsync In-Reply-To: Message-ID: thanks, jason - but unfortunately, i have no clue as to what you're talking about. palm tech support wasn't able to help (they simply said that lots of people seem to have trouble hotsyncing in panther) and you seem to have the answer, but i don't have the knowledge to understand what you're saying. is there a step-by-step procedure for those of us with little computer knowledge. io'm not trotally technophobic - i have a pretty extensive midi/sampling studio and i make most of my living producing music for media. but i don't know much about computer technology... >> To get hotsync going again, install palm 4.1 as root. This may >> require setting a password for root if you haven't already. (Use >> "sudo passwd root" at command line.) > > > you can also do this without the command line using NetInfo manager. Let > us know if you need instructions on this. > > and logging in as root should be treated with enormous respect. Don't do > anything other than reinstall PD or you could have problems... > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk From jason at ophiochos.org.uk Sat Jan 17 18:58:19 2004 From: jason at ophiochos.org.uk (Jason Davies) Date: Thu Mar 25 23:00:45 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] panther hotsync In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >is there a step-by-step procedure for those of us with little computer >knowledge. io'm not trotally technophobic - i have a pretty extensive >midi/sampling studio and i make most of my living producing music for >media. but i don't know much about computer technology... 0) Print out these instruction or write them somewhere other than your computer! 1) quit all applications 2) open Netinfo manager in Utilities 3) Enable Root User (Security Menu) 4) Set a password 5) Quit Netinfo Manager and restart 6) log in (I think it says 'other' or you have to type 'root' or something similar: it won't show 'root' as an option directly) 7) Run the installer to *uninstall* Palm Desktop. 8) Run the installer to reinstall PD 9) Restart 10) Go to Netinfo manager and Disable Root user 11) See if it worked... I had to do this twice as I kept getting an error. I have yet to use BT for syncing with PD on X.3.2 which is a really really irritating situation as I went to a PB 12" AND a Tungsten almost purely to be able to sync over Bluetooth. But I can run it throught the cable. Once you get it working it seems to stick... best of luck From jason at ophiochos.org.uk Sat Jan 17 19:01:49 2004 From: jason at ophiochos.org.uk (Jason Davies) Date: Thu Mar 25 23:00:45 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] for admin's attention In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I have yet to post a message to this forum *without* getting a reply that a message went undelivered for some failure reason or another. I don't know if the administrator is around and can't find an address for them but it would be very agreeable if they could find a way of monitoring these and removing them; alternatively, how can I notify them (without going through the list) of these dead addresses? Thanks. From jason at ophiochos.org.uk Sat Jan 17 19:03:26 2004 From: jason at ophiochos.org.uk (Jason Davies) Date: Thu Mar 25 23:00:45 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] panther hotsync In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >1) quit all applications 2) open Netinfo manager in Utilities 3) >Enable Root User (Security Menu) 4) Set a password I forgot: decide on a password, write it down and keep it somewhere while you're doing this! I actually manage to forget it by the end of this procedure. That's what we techies usually refer to as 'very very bad thing to do'. From brian_hall at markspace.com Sat Jan 17 11:11:13 2004 From: brian_hall at markspace.com (Brian Hall) Date: Thu Mar 25 23:00:45 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] for admin's attention In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >I have yet to post a message to this forum *without* getting a reply >that a message went undelivered for some failure reason or another. I >don't know if the administrator is around and can't find an address for >them but it would be very agreeable if they could find a way of >monitoring these and removing them; alternatively, how can I notify them >(without going through the list) of these dead addresses? What happens is that you post to the list, it goes out to all the list members, and some of those addresses may be bad, or the person on vacation or whatever AND THAT PERSONS email client and/or server sends a message back to YOU (rather than the list). This is because they look at the FROM address (which is you) rather than the REPLY-TO address (which is the list). In the case where they (IMHO) properly pick the reply-to address, the bounce/vacation/whatever message goes back to the list server and is discarded. Since it isn't the list server sending you the message, there isn't a great deal we (running the list) can do about it. But we're open to ideas if we missed something. Brian -- _____________________________________________________________________ Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 540 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 Los Gatos, CA 95030 From jason at ophiochos.org.uk Sun Jan 18 00:27:38 2004 From: jason at ophiochos.org.uk (Jason Davies) Date: Thu Mar 25 23:00:45 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] for admin's attention In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >Since it isn't the list server sending you the message, there isn't a >great deal we (running the list) can do about it. But we're open to >ideas if we missed something. can't you remove them from the list, as administrator? I can do this for the lists I administer. I'd be very surprised if it wasn't possible here. From sgruby at markspace.com Sat Jan 17 16:33:46 2004 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Thu Mar 25 23:00:45 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] for admin's attention In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Jan 17, 2004, at 4:27 PM, Jason Davies wrote: >> Since it isn't the list server sending you the message, there isn't a >> great deal we (running the list) can do about it. But we're open to >> ideas if we missed something. > > > can't you remove them from the list, as administrator? I can do this > for > the lists I administer. I'd be very surprised if it wasn't possible > here. > The issue is that we don't know who they are. The bounces go directly to you and not to the administrators. -- Scott Gruby Please contact support@markspace.com for assistance with Mark/Space products. From sgruby at markspace.com Mon Jan 19 11:36:44 2004 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Thu Mar 25 23:00:45 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Nominate Missing Sync for Palm OS and/or Missing Sync for Internet for Palm OS Powered Up Awards Message-ID: PalmSource is seeking nominations for the 2004 US Palm Powered Up Awards. If you, like us at Mark/Space, feel that Missing Sync for Palm OS or Missing Sync for Internet and AvantGo is deserving of an award, please nominate it by visiting: Thanks for your support! -- Scott Gruby Please contact support@markspace.com for assistance with Mark/Space products. From benji24 at sbcglobal.net Sun Jan 25 18:28:29 2004 From: benji24 at sbcglobal.net (Danny Benjamin) Date: Thu Mar 25 23:00:45 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] join list Message-ID: <20040126022829.4719.qmail@web80601.mail.yahoo.com> yes From reefer at worldviewpr.com Mon Jan 12 11:21:44 2004 From: reefer at worldviewpr.com (Bill Gram-Reefer) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:47 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] avantgo problem Message-ID: <8ED6C239-4534-11D8-8213-0030654E6B14@worldviewpr.com> Using Missing SYnc Mac OS /Palm 5 (treo 600) to access avantgo First, the system prefs check box in avantgo does not appear to work consistently "refresh all content" is always unmarked when i go to it to check prefs. So I check it. then do a synch that then doesn't work. I go back to prefs and the check box is once again not checked. Do I have have to check box each time? The avantgo program establishes a link and sends stuff to the server and then downloads and that countdown but then all i get is the welcome page suggesting if my channels do not appear try reyscnhing again (and again and again) my sych history at avantgo website looks like this Completely out of sync, resequencing... Web Content: OK Mammut: Do nothing Mon Jan 12, 2004 10:47:50 GMT-0800 - 537 seconds Size limit exceeded for channel - USATODAY.com Size limit exceeded for channel - New York Times - Technology HTTP/1.1 404 File not found.(404) - http://public.wsj.com/news/avan... Size limit exceeded for channel - The Sporting News Web Content: OK Mammut: Do nothing Mon Jan 12, 2004 10:47:45 GMT-0800 - 0 seconds Completely out of sync, resequencing... Web Content: OK Mammut: Do nothing I got rid of some of the chunkier channels but it still does not work and my usage is only 500 of 2000 kb I'd appreciate any advice or a faq that deals with avantgo directly. bgr Completely out of sync, resequencing... Web Content: OK Mammut: Do nothing Mon Jan 12, 2004 10:47:50 GMT-0800 - 537 seconds Size limit exceeded for channel - USATODAY.com Size limit exceeded for channel - New York Times - Technology HTTP/1.1 404 File not found.(404) - http://public.wsj.com/news/avan... Size limit exceeded for channel - The Sporting News Web Content: OK Mammut: Do nothing Mon Jan 12, 2004 10:47:45 GMT-0800 - 0 seconds Completely out of sync, resequencing... Web Content: OK Mammut: Do nothing From jzurek at cabrini.edu Mon Jan 12 21:30:40 2004 From: jzurek at cabrini.edu (Jerry Zurek) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:47 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Avantgo problem In-Reply-To: <200401122002.i0CK2pm30492@markspace.vps.fluidhosting.com> Message-ID: I have never been successful syncing to Avantgo. I corresponded with the folks at MarkSpace many times but never succeeded. I gave up. Has anyone actually synced with Avantgo? I have MissingSync 2.0. I follow all the steps in the manual but when I get to "tap the Connect button" in network prefs, it tries to sign on until I get error: PPP timeout (0x1231). My Service is Missing Sync. The details are Connection type: PPP Query DNS checked IP address: Automatic checked. I have given up and am curious if this Avantgo really ever works. Thanks, Jerry Thanks, -- Jerry Zurek English & Communication Dept. Cabrini College http://pages.cabrini.edu/jzurek Sign up for advising at http://email.calendars.net/jz > > Today's Topics: > > 1. avantgo problem (Bill Gram-Reefer) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 11:21:44 -0800 > From: Bill Gram-Reefer > To: missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] avantgo problem > Message-ID: <8ED6C239-4534-11D8-8213-0030654E6B14@worldviewpr.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset=US-ASCII; > format=flowed > MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Precedence: list > Reply-To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Palm OS\) Discussion List" > > Message: 1 > > Using Missing SYnc Mac OS /Palm 5 (treo 600) to access avantgo > > First, the system prefs check box in avantgo does not appear to work > consistently > > "refresh all content" is always unmarked when i go to it to check > prefs. So I check it. then do a synch that then doesn't work. I go back > to prefs and the check box is once again not checked. Do I have have to > check box each time? > > The avantgo program establishes a link and sends stuff to the server > and then downloads and that countdown > > but then all i get is the welcome page suggesting if my channels do not > appear try reyscnhing again (and again and again) > > my sych history at avantgo website looks like this > > Completely out of sync, resequencing... > Web Content: OK > Mammut: Do nothing > > Mon Jan 12, 2004 10:47:50 GMT-0800 - 537 seconds > Size limit exceeded for channel - USATODAY.com > Size limit exceeded for channel - New York Times - Technology > HTTP/1.1 404 File not found.(404) - http://public.wsj.com/news/avan... > Size limit exceeded for channel - The Sporting News > Web Content: OK > Mammut: Do nothing > > Mon Jan 12, 2004 10:47:45 GMT-0800 - 0 seconds > Completely out of sync, resequencing... > Web Content: OK > Mammut: Do nothing > > I got rid of some of the chunkier channels but it still does not work > and my usage is only 500 of 2000 kb > > I'd appreciate any advice or a faq that deals with avantgo directly. > > bgr > > Completely out of sync, resequencing... > Web Content: OK > Mammut: Do nothing > > Mon Jan 12, 2004 10:47:50 GMT-0800 - 537 seconds > Size limit exceeded for channel - USATODAY.com > Size limit exceeded for channel - New York Times - Technology > HTTP/1.1 404 File not found.(404) - http://public.wsj.com/news/avan... > Size limit exceeded for channel - The Sporting News > Web Content: OK > Mammut: Do nothing > > Mon Jan 12, 2004 10:47:45 GMT-0800 - 0 seconds > Completely out of sync, resequencing... > Web Content: OK > Mammut: Do nothing > ------------------------------ > From nicou5 at hotmail.com Tue Jan 13 02:57:23 2004 From: nicou5 at hotmail.com (Veronique Richard) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:47 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Avantgo problem Message-ID: Jerry, I'm totally with you, I've had the same problem have exchanged email with markspace not getting anywhere, I've just emailed them today in response to yet a general answer after I left a voicemail message, I'm giving up myself. If I'm not getting anywhere by the end of the week I'm asking for my money back! Sorry to ventilate like that, but if you're getting an answer and it works, please please let me know. Thanks Veronique Véronique Richard nicou5@hotmail.com >From: Jerry Zurek >Reply-To: "The Missing Sync (Mac/Palm OS) Discussion >List" >To: >Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Avantgo problem >Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 21:30:40 -0500 > >I have never been successful syncing to Avantgo. > >I corresponded with the folks at MarkSpace many times but never succeeded. >I >gave up. Has anyone actually synced with Avantgo? > >I have MissingSync 2.0. > >I follow all the steps in the manual but when I get to "tap the Connect >button" in network prefs, it tries to sign on until I get error: PPP >timeout >(0x1231). > >My Service is Missing Sync. The details are >Connection type: PPP >Query DNS checked >IP address: Automatic checked. > >I have given up and am curious if this Avantgo really ever works. > >Thanks, >Jerry >Thanks, >-- >Jerry Zurek > >English & Communication Dept. >Cabrini College >http://pages.cabrini.edu/jzurek > >Sign up for advising at >http://email.calendars.net/jz > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. avantgo problem (Bill Gram-Reefer) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 11:21:44 -0800 > > From: Bill Gram-Reefer > > To: missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > > Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] avantgo problem > > Message-ID: <8ED6C239-4534-11D8-8213-0030654E6B14@worldviewpr.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; > > charset=US-ASCII; > > format=flowed > > MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Precedence: list > > Reply-To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Palm OS\) Discussion List" > > > > Message: 1 > > > > Using Missing SYnc Mac OS /Palm 5 (treo 600) to access avantgo > > > > First, the system prefs check box in avantgo does not appear to work > > consistently > > > > "refresh all content" is always unmarked when i go to it to check > > prefs. So I check it. then do a synch that then doesn't work. I go back > > to prefs and the check box is once again not checked. Do I have have to > > check box each time? > > > > The avantgo program establishes a link and sends stuff to the server > > and then downloads and that countdown > > > > but then all i get is the welcome page suggesting if my channels do not > > appear try reyscnhing again (and again and again) > > > > my sych history at avantgo website looks like this > > > > Completely out of sync, resequencing... > > Web Content: OK > > Mammut: Do nothing > > > > Mon Jan 12, 2004 10:47:50 GMT-0800 - 537 seconds > > Size limit exceeded for channel - USATODAY.com > > Size limit exceeded for channel - New York Times - Technology > > HTTP/1.1 404 File not found.(404) - http://public.wsj.com/news/avan... > > Size limit exceeded for channel - The Sporting News > > Web Content: OK > > Mammut: Do nothing > > > > Mon Jan 12, 2004 10:47:45 GMT-0800 - 0 seconds > > Completely out of sync, resequencing... > > Web Content: OK > > Mammut: Do nothing > > > > I got rid of some of the chunkier channels but it still does not work > > and my usage is only 500 of 2000 kb > > > > I'd appreciate any advice or a faq that deals with avantgo directly. > > > > bgr > > > > Completely out of sync, resequencing... > > Web Content: OK > > Mammut: Do nothing > > > > Mon Jan 12, 2004 10:47:50 GMT-0800 - 537 seconds > > Size limit exceeded for channel - USATODAY.com > > Size limit exceeded for channel - New York Times - Technology > > HTTP/1.1 404 File not found.(404) - http://public.wsj.com/news/avan... > > Size limit exceeded for channel - The Sporting News > > Web Content: OK > > Mammut: Do nothing > > > > Mon Jan 12, 2004 10:47:45 GMT-0800 - 0 seconds > > Completely out of sync, resequencing... > > Web Content: OK > > Mammut: Do nothing > > ------------------------------ > > > >_______________________________________________ >missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be >found at: >http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk _________________________________________________________________ Rethink your business approach for the new year with the helpful tips here. http://special.msn.com/bcentral/prep04.armx From rgrim at willowsound.com Mon Jan 12 19:36:33 2004 From: rgrim at willowsound.com (Rodney Grim) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:47 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Avantgo problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Just thought I'd let you know that Avantgo works fine for me with Missing Sync. But like many things with networking and the Palm, it's very "multi-step". On Jan 12, 2004, at 6:30 PM, Jerry Zurek wrote: > I have never been successful syncing to Avantgo. > > I corresponded with the folks at MarkSpace many times but never > succeeded. I > gave up. Has anyone actually synced with Avantgo? > > I have MissingSync 2.0. > > I follow all the steps in the manual but when I get to "tap the Connect > button" in network prefs, it tries to sign on until I get error: PPP > timeout > (0x1231). > > My Service is Missing Sync. The details are > Connection type: PPP > Query DNS checked > IP address: Automatic checked. > > I have given up and am curious if this Avantgo really ever works. > > Thanks, > Jerry > Thanks, > -- > Jerry Zurek > > English & Communication Dept. > Cabrini College > http://pages.cabrini.edu/jzurek > > Sign up for advising at > http://email.calendars.net/jz > > >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. avantgo problem (Bill Gram-Reefer) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 11:21:44 -0800 >> From: Bill Gram-Reefer >> To: missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >> Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] avantgo problem >> Message-ID: <8ED6C239-4534-11D8-8213-0030654E6B14@worldviewpr.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; >> charset=US-ASCII; >> format=flowed >> MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> Precedence: list >> Reply-To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Palm OS\) Discussion List" >> >> Message: 1 >> >> Using Missing SYnc Mac OS /Palm 5 (treo 600) to access avantgo >> >> First, the system prefs check box in avantgo does not appear to work >> consistently >> >> "refresh all content" is always unmarked when i go to it to check >> prefs. So I check it. then do a synch that then doesn't work. I go >> back >> to prefs and the check box is once again not checked. Do I have have >> to >> check box each time? >> >> The avantgo program establishes a link and sends stuff to the server >> and then downloads and that countdown >> >> but then all i get is the welcome page suggesting if my channels do >> not >> appear try reyscnhing again (and again and again) >> >> my sych history at avantgo website looks like this >> >> Completely out of sync, resequencing... >> Web Content: OK >> Mammut: Do nothing >> >> Mon Jan 12, 2004 10:47:50 GMT-0800 - 537 seconds >> Size limit exceeded for channel - USATODAY.com >> Size limit exceeded for channel - New York Times - Technology >> HTTP/1.1 404 File not found.(404) - http://public.wsj.com/news/avan... >> Size limit exceeded for channel - The Sporting News >> Web Content: OK >> Mammut: Do nothing >> >> Mon Jan 12, 2004 10:47:45 GMT-0800 - 0 seconds >> Completely out of sync, resequencing... >> Web Content: OK >> Mammut: Do nothing >> >> I got rid of some of the chunkier channels but it still does not work >> and my usage is only 500 of 2000 kb >> >> I'd appreciate any advice or a faq that deals with avantgo directly. >> >> bgr >> >> Completely out of sync, resequencing... >> Web Content: OK >> Mammut: Do nothing >> >> Mon Jan 12, 2004 10:47:50 GMT-0800 - 537 seconds >> Size limit exceeded for channel - USATODAY.com >> Size limit exceeded for channel - New York Times - Technology >> HTTP/1.1 404 File not found.(404) - http://public.wsj.com/news/avan... >> Size limit exceeded for channel - The Sporting News >> Web Content: OK >> Mammut: Do nothing >> >> Mon Jan 12, 2004 10:47:45 GMT-0800 - 0 seconds >> Completely out of sync, resequencing... >> Web Content: OK >> Mammut: Do nothing >> ------------------------------ >> > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > From jason at ophiochos.org.uk Tue Jan 13 11:33:17 2004 From: jason at ophiochos.org.uk (Jason Davies) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:47 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Avantgo problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >Has anyone actually synced with Avantgo? I can't help you but I do this regularly on two different machines now. I had to hard reset the Palm twice to get Missing Sync to work but the internet sharing has always worked okay. I didn't even set the Connection settings, just Connect to PC via cradle and then select that in Avantgo Connect. I don't normally approve of 'works here' messages since they are irritating and unhelpful, but you did ask:-) From reefer at worldviewpr.com Tue Jan 13 13:17:45 2004 From: reefer at worldviewpr.com (Bill Gram-Reefer) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:47 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] mac does not recognize disk Message-ID: I have a 256 Mb SD disk in the Treo 600 I installed MS for Palm OS The disk appeared the first time on the Mac Finder. FIne Now it does not show up on the desktop and the mac claims it is unreadable and if you select intitalize you only see your own hard disk to re-initialize WHICH ONE SHOULD NOT DO. Disk appears OK in Treo. So between this and my Avantgo experience, these two issues both worked find first time but not since. any advice? bgr From esolot at quadnet.net Fri Jan 16 12:06:23 2004 From: esolot at quadnet.net (Evan Solot) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:47 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] panther hotsync Message-ID: hi everyone -\ pls excuse my naivete - i'm a newbie... i recently upgraded to panther and palm 4.1 and was unable to get a hotsync. i read about the missing link but can't figure out from the website which software i need or how to use it. please advise - thanks, evan From rthomas at uiuc.edu Fri Jan 16 17:25:09 2004 From: rthomas at uiuc.edu (Ryan Thomas) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:47 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] panther hotsync In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <39D925FB-487B-11D8-B7D1-000A95BC7C70@uiuc.edu> To get hotsync going again, install palm 4.1 as root. This may require setting a password for root if you haven't already. (Use "sudo passwd root" at command line.) -Ryan On Jan 16, 2004, at 11:06 AM, Evan Solot wrote: > hi everyone -\ > > pls excuse my naivete - i'm a newbie... > > i recently upgraded to panther and palm 4.1 and was unable to get a > hotsync. > i read about the missing link but can't figure out from the website > which > software i need or how to use it. > > please advise - > > thanks, > evan > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk From jason at ophiochos.org.uk Sat Jan 17 15:42:50 2004 From: jason at ophiochos.org.uk (Jason Davies) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:47 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] panther hotsync In-Reply-To: <39D925FB-487B-11D8-B7D1-000A95BC7C70@uiuc.edu> Message-ID: >To get hotsync going again, install palm 4.1 as root. This may >require setting a password for root if you haven't already. (Use >"sudo passwd root" at command line.) you can also do this without the command line using NetInfo manager. Let us know if you need instructions on this. and logging in as root should be treated with enormous respect. Don't do anything other than reinstall PD or you could have problems... From esolot at quadnet.net Sat Jan 17 11:51:30 2004 From: esolot at quadnet.net (Evan Solot) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:47 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] panther hotsync In-Reply-To: Message-ID: thanks, jason - but unfortunately, i have no clue as to what you're talking about. palm tech support wasn't able to help (they simply said that lots of people seem to have trouble hotsyncing in panther) and you seem to have the answer, but i don't have the knowledge to understand what you're saying. is there a step-by-step procedure for those of us with little computer knowledge. io'm not trotally technophobic - i have a pretty extensive midi/sampling studio and i make most of my living producing music for media. but i don't know much about computer technology... >> To get hotsync going again, install palm 4.1 as root. This may >> require setting a password for root if you haven't already. (Use >> "sudo passwd root" at command line.) > > > you can also do this without the command line using NetInfo manager. Let > us know if you need instructions on this. > > and logging in as root should be treated with enormous respect. Don't do > anything other than reinstall PD or you could have problems... > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk From jason at ophiochos.org.uk Sat Jan 17 18:58:19 2004 From: jason at ophiochos.org.uk (Jason Davies) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:47 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] panther hotsync In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >is there a step-by-step procedure for those of us with little computer >knowledge. io'm not trotally technophobic - i have a pretty extensive >midi/sampling studio and i make most of my living producing music for >media. but i don't know much about computer technology... 0) Print out these instruction or write them somewhere other than your computer! 1) quit all applications 2) open Netinfo manager in Utilities 3) Enable Root User (Security Menu) 4) Set a password 5) Quit Netinfo Manager and restart 6) log in (I think it says 'other' or you have to type 'root' or something similar: it won't show 'root' as an option directly) 7) Run the installer to *uninstall* Palm Desktop. 8) Run the installer to reinstall PD 9) Restart 10) Go to Netinfo manager and Disable Root user 11) See if it worked... I had to do this twice as I kept getting an error. I have yet to use BT for syncing with PD on X.3.2 which is a really really irritating situation as I went to a PB 12" AND a Tungsten almost purely to be able to sync over Bluetooth. But I can run it throught the cable. Once you get it working it seems to stick... best of luck From jason at ophiochos.org.uk Sat Jan 17 19:01:49 2004 From: jason at ophiochos.org.uk (Jason Davies) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:47 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] for admin's attention In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I have yet to post a message to this forum *without* getting a reply that a message went undelivered for some failure reason or another. I don't know if the administrator is around and can't find an address for them but it would be very agreeable if they could find a way of monitoring these and removing them; alternatively, how can I notify them (without going through the list) of these dead addresses? Thanks. From jason at ophiochos.org.uk Sat Jan 17 19:03:26 2004 From: jason at ophiochos.org.uk (Jason Davies) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:47 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] panther hotsync In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >1) quit all applications 2) open Netinfo manager in Utilities 3) >Enable Root User (Security Menu) 4) Set a password I forgot: decide on a password, write it down and keep it somewhere while you're doing this! I actually manage to forget it by the end of this procedure. That's what we techies usually refer to as 'very very bad thing to do'. From brian_hall at markspace.com Sat Jan 17 11:11:13 2004 From: brian_hall at markspace.com (Brian Hall) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:47 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] for admin's attention In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >I have yet to post a message to this forum *without* getting a reply >that a message went undelivered for some failure reason or another. I >don't know if the administrator is around and can't find an address for >them but it would be very agreeable if they could find a way of >monitoring these and removing them; alternatively, how can I notify them >(without going through the list) of these dead addresses? What happens is that you post to the list, it goes out to all the list members, and some of those addresses may be bad, or the person on vacation or whatever AND THAT PERSONS email client and/or server sends a message back to YOU (rather than the list). This is because they look at the FROM address (which is you) rather than the REPLY-TO address (which is the list). In the case where they (IMHO) properly pick the reply-to address, the bounce/vacation/whatever message goes back to the list server and is discarded. Since it isn't the list server sending you the message, there isn't a great deal we (running the list) can do about it. But we're open to ideas if we missed something. Brian -- _____________________________________________________________________ Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 540 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 Los Gatos, CA 95030 From jason at ophiochos.org.uk Sun Jan 18 00:27:38 2004 From: jason at ophiochos.org.uk (Jason Davies) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:47 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] for admin's attention In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >Since it isn't the list server sending you the message, there isn't a >great deal we (running the list) can do about it. But we're open to >ideas if we missed something. can't you remove them from the list, as administrator? I can do this for the lists I administer. I'd be very surprised if it wasn't possible here. From sgruby at markspace.com Sat Jan 17 16:33:46 2004 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:47 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] for admin's attention In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Jan 17, 2004, at 4:27 PM, Jason Davies wrote: >> Since it isn't the list server sending you the message, there isn't a >> great deal we (running the list) can do about it. But we're open to >> ideas if we missed something. > > > can't you remove them from the list, as administrator? I can do this > for > the lists I administer. I'd be very surprised if it wasn't possible > here. > The issue is that we don't know who they are. The bounces go directly to you and not to the administrators. -- Scott Gruby Please contact support@markspace.com for assistance with Mark/Space products. From sgruby at markspace.com Mon Jan 19 11:36:44 2004 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:47 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Nominate Missing Sync for Palm OS and/or Missing Sync for Internet for Palm OS Powered Up Awards Message-ID: PalmSource is seeking nominations for the 2004 US Palm Powered Up Awards. If you, like us at Mark/Space, feel that Missing Sync for Palm OS or Missing Sync for Internet and AvantGo is deserving of an award, please nominate it by visiting: Thanks for your support! -- Scott Gruby Please contact support@markspace.com for assistance with Mark/Space products. From benji24 at sbcglobal.net Sun Jan 25 18:28:29 2004 From: benji24 at sbcglobal.net (Danny Benjamin) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:47 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] join list Message-ID: <20040126022829.4719.qmail@web80601.mail.yahoo.com> yes