From lemelin.f at videotron.ca Wed Dec 1 13:29:50 2004 From: lemelin.f at videotron.ca (Francois Lemelin) Date: Wed Dec 1 10:30:09 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Chronosnet conduit In-Reply-To: <5121414A-42E2-11D9-B85D-000D932F4F94@markspace.com> Message-ID: Somebody know when Chronosnet will post a working conduit for 4.02? Francois Lemelin Quebec Canada From lists at mostrom.pp.se Wed Dec 1 20:08:24 2004 From: lists at mostrom.pp.se (Jan Erik =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mostr=F6m?=) Date: Wed Dec 1 11:08:36 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Chronosnet conduit In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 2004-12-01 19:29, Francois Lemelin wrote: > Somebody know when Chronosnet will post a working conduit for 4.02? Nope, I've tried to get some answers from them but they have been very silent the last couple of months. So right now I'm looking at the alternatives so I can switch if it becomes neccessary jem -- Jan Erik Mostr?m www.mostrom.pp.se From brian_hall at markspace.com Wed Dec 1 11:38:11 2004 From: brian_hall at markspace.com (Brian Hall) Date: Wed Dec 1 11:39:03 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Chronosnet conduit In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >> Somebody know when Chronosnet will post a working conduit for 4.02? > >Nope, I've tried to get some answers from them but they have been very silent >the last couple of months. > >So right now I'm looking at the alternatives so I can switch if it becomes >neccessary FYI, their product feedback page is at: http://www.chronosnet.com/Contact/product_feedback.html Brian -- _____________________________________________________________________ Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 654 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 Los Gatos, CA 95030-4360 From lola at his.com Wed Dec 1 15:16:06 2004 From: lola at his.com (Lola Lee) Date: Wed Dec 1 12:16:10 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Can't Install Into Internal Drive Message-ID: <41AE2686.4090401@his.com> I upgraded the program this morning. I'm trying to install some files into the Internal drive on my Tungsten T5. For some reason, it's not working as I'm getting this message: - From miked916 at mac.com Wed Dec 1 15:27:59 2004 From: miked916 at mac.com (Michael Deleon) Date: Wed Dec 1 13:28:03 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] How to get categories to sync properly In-Reply-To: <200412012001.iB1K0YEO010472@penguin.markspace.com> References: <200412012001.iB1K0YEO010472@penguin.markspace.com> Message-ID: <14045882.1101936479859.JavaMail.miked916@mac.com> Is there a way to properly sync the categories on the mac end to be the same categories on the Palm OS end? Mike From lists at mostrom.pp.se Wed Dec 1 22:50:42 2004 From: lists at mostrom.pp.se (Jan Erik =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mostr=F6m?=) Date: Wed Dec 1 13:50:47 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] How to get categories to sync properly In-Reply-To: <14045882.1101936479859.JavaMail.miked916@mac.com> Message-ID: On 2004-12-01 22:27, Michael Deleon wrote: > Is there a way to properly sync the categories on the mac end to > be the same categories on the Palm OS end? Depends what applications you're using jem -- Jan Erik Mostr?m www.mostrom.pp.se From mmurray at maths.adelaide.edu.au Thu Dec 2 08:47:26 2004 From: mmurray at maths.adelaide.edu.au (Michael Murray) Date: Wed Dec 1 14:17:32 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Chronosnet conduit In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I heard that they were going to work on this when they had finished the latest Sticky Brain -- which came out a few weeks back. Michael From becs at shizuokanet.ne.jp Fri Dec 3 01:51:18 2004 From: becs at shizuokanet.ne.jp (Rob and Satoko at BECS) Date: Thu Dec 2 08:51:39 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] MemoPad blues - duplicate categories and rearranged memos after sync Message-ID: I just submitted this to Mark/Space support, but I also want to cross submit it to this list since I know some others are having similar problems with MemoPad duplicating categories and moving around memos after syncing. Also I?d appreciate it if someone from Mark/Space would let me know if I did not submit this at the proper place for it to get noticed! Thanks, Rob Thank You! Below is what you submitted to support@markspace.com on Thursday, December 2, 2004 at 08:34:38 name: Rob Boyles email2: becs@shizuokanet.ne.jp brand: Sony Clie model: PEG-NX80V os: Palm 0S v.5.0 missingsync: 4.0.2 macos: 10.3.6 syncs_entourage: yes problem: Using Mark/Space MemoPad, some memo categories are duplicated after a sync, and memos are distributed between the duplicate categories, and sometimes distributed to the "Unfiled" category or an unrelated category. Some memos are deleted. Some may be duplicated but I haven't noticed that. the arrangement of memos on the handheld is different from that on the Mac. steps: My version of Entourage is for Japanese Office 2004, and my Mac OS and Missing Sync are set to Japanese. The Clie is also Japanese. Most everything is Japanese except for some stray English bits here and there. I have Missing Sync set to allow conduit conflicts so I can use MemoPad with Entourage, and I have Entourage's memo syncing function turned off. I've run into this problem a couple times already - once when I first started using MemoPad (please note that at that time I wasn't allowing conduit conflicts since i was using iSync). Then it happened again about a week ago. Fortunately I had just backed up the Clie via Hot Sync to our Windows PC (I'm in the habit of doing that since Mac Hot Sync has always been flaky - I set the conduits to just back up from the Clie to the PC, except Docs-to-Go, which I use to pick up some documents off the PC). So I Hot Synced with the PC again to restored my memos from the PC to the Clie. Then for a couple days I used Memory Stick backup before I tried syncing the Clie to the Mac again. Finally, I tried syncing the Clie to the Mac again. I had the MemoPad conduit set to synchronize. It resulted in the category duplication and memo disorganization problem again. Of course, as you might expect, the exact pattern of duplication and disorganization is different from one time to the next. Incidentally, the overall sync operation took a loooong time this time. As I was expecting trouble, I turned on all logging options in preferences and using command-option-shift-D. I can mail you the log if you like. -- Rob Boyles and Satoko Fukushima BECS Matsuoka 1193-22 Fuji-shi Shizuoka 416-0909 JAPAN TEL/FAX 0545-64-9650 +81-545-64-9650 becs@shizuokanet.ne.jp http://www.becs.jp From miked916 at mac.com Thu Dec 2 20:16:50 2004 From: miked916 at mac.com (Michael Deleon) Date: Thu Dec 2 18:16:52 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: How to get categories to sync properly In-Reply-To: <200412022058.iB2Kw9EO014497@penguin.markspace.com> References: <200412022058.iB2Kw9EO014497@penguin.markspace.com> Message-ID: <3558912.1102040210923.JavaMail.miked916@mac.com> I'm using Agendus Pro on the Palm end and iCal/Addressbook on the mac end. Again, to remind people, I wanted to know how to get categories to sync so that my organization on the mac side of things transfers to the palm as well... Mike From atmasphere at atmasphere.net Thu Dec 2 21:23:02 2004 From: atmasphere at atmasphere.net (Jonathan Greene) Date: Thu Dec 2 18:23:04 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: How to get categories to sync properly In-Reply-To: <3558912.1102040210923.JavaMail.miked916@mac.com> References: <200412022058.iB2Kw9EO014497@penguin.markspace.com> <3558912.1102040210923.JavaMail.miked916@mac.com> Message-ID: <41D0E10F-44D2-11D9-BAEA-000A95C47866@atmasphere.net> Which app are you trying to sync categories on your Mac? Address Book does not support categories to palm. The groups are unique to the app... On Dec 2, 2004, at 9:16 PM, Michael Deleon wrote: > I'm using Agendus Pro on the Palm end and iCal/Addressbook on the mac > end. Again, to remind people, I wanted to know how to get categories > to sync so that my organization on the mac side of things transfers to > the palm as well... > > Mike From rmaehl at bigpond.net.au Fri Dec 3 17:40:12 2004 From: rmaehl at bigpond.net.au (Russ Maehl) Date: Thu Dec 2 22:40:18 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Feature Request In-Reply-To: <41D0E10F-44D2-11D9-BAEA-000A95C47866@atmasphere.net> Message-ID: This is a feature request...unless there is a way to do it already. I would like the option of forcing MS into the 'install' mode if I drag a file into the areas reserved for installed files. At the moment I drag a file in and then have to switch over to 'Conduits' and then select install which for me has only install checked. Another way to look at it would be to replace the 'Synchronization' button with three buttons: 1. Sync 2. Sync and install 3. Install only. Would certainly make things better for me. While on the topic of switching, I was wondering if MS could switch over to 'Internet Sharing' automatically when it detects a call from my Palm for internet access? Thanks, Russ From lists at mostrom.pp.se Fri Dec 3 08:40:20 2004 From: lists at mostrom.pp.se (Jan Erik =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mostr=F6m?=) Date: Thu Dec 2 23:40:25 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: How to get categories to sync properly In-Reply-To: <3558912.1102040210923.JavaMail.miked916@mac.com> Message-ID: On 2004-12-02 03:16, Michael Deleon wrote: > I'm using Agendus Pro on the Palm end and iCal/Addressbook on the > mac end. Again, to remind people, I wanted to know how to get > categories to sync so that my organization on the mac side of > things transfers to the palm as well... As I understand it ( I don't use iSync ), iSync doesn't sync categories for iCal or Address Book -- Jan Erik Mostr?m www.mostrom.pp.se From atmasphere at atmasphere.net Fri Dec 3 09:19:08 2004 From: atmasphere at atmasphere.net (Jonathan Greene) Date: Fri Dec 3 06:19:14 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Feature Request In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BDF299E-4536-11D9-80B6-000A95C47866@atmasphere.net> If you automatically switched to install mode, you would block the times when you want to install AND sync. I've been doing a fair bit of installing and I just use the menu bar tool to switch over to install mode. Then I either double click or simply highlight and open (if multiple) the file(s). On Dec 3, 2004, at 1:40 AM, Russ Maehl wrote: > This is a feature request...unless there is a way to do it already. > > I would like the option of forcing MS into the 'install' mode if I > drag a > file into the areas reserved for installed files. At the moment I > drag a > file in and then have to switch over to 'Conduits' and then select > install > which for me has only install checked. > > Another way to look at it would be to replace the 'Synchronization' > button > with three buttons: > > 1. Sync > 2. Sync and install > 3. Install only. > > Would certainly make things better for me. > > While on the topic of switching, I was wondering if MS could switch > over to > 'Internet Sharing' automatically when it detects a call from my Palm > for > internet access? > > > Thanks, > > Russ > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > From crussell at markspace.com Fri Dec 3 10:04:25 2004 From: crussell at markspace.com (Catherine Russell) Date: Fri Dec 3 10:04:28 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: missing-sync-palmos-talk Digest, Vol 19, Issue 2 In-Reply-To: <200412022058.iB2Kw9EO014497@penguin.markspace.com> References: <200412022058.iB2Kw9EO014497@penguin.markspace.com> Message-ID: <41B0AAA9.2020801@markspace.com> > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2004 15:27:59 -0600 > From: Michael Deleon > Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] How to get categories to sync > properly > To: missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Message-ID: <14045882.1101936479859.JavaMail.miked916@mac.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Is there a way to properly sync the categories on the mac end to be the same categories on the Palm OS end? > > Mike > Mike, If you're syncing with the iSync Palm OS conduit, your categories will not sync. This is a limit of iSync capability. Catherine From brian_hall at markspace.com Fri Dec 3 10:52:40 2004 From: brian_hall at markspace.com (Brian Hall) Date: Fri Dec 3 10:54:34 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Feature Request In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 5:40 PM +1100 12/3/04, Russ Maehl wrote: >This is a feature request...unless there is a way to do it already. > >I would like the option of forcing MS into the 'install' mode if I drag a >file into the areas reserved for installed files. At the moment I drag a >file in and then have to switch over to 'Conduits' and then select install >which for me has only install checked. > >Another way to look at it would be to replace the 'Synchronization' button >with three buttons: > >1. Sync >2. Sync and install >3. Install only. > >Would certainly make things better for me. > We are adding scripting support to Missing Sync, so you could likely do what you want with a future version of Missing Sync by writing an applescript and/or 'droplet' (applescript that you can drop files on). >While on the topic of switching, I was wondering if MS could switch over to >'Internet Sharing' automatically when it detects a call from my Palm for >internet access? There are technical reasons this is not possible for most handhelds. We really tried. It would have made life easier for us as well (in terms of tech support). Brian -- _____________________________________________________________________ Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 654 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 Los Gatos, CA 95030-4360 From rmaehl at bigpond.net.au Sat Dec 4 06:34:44 2004 From: rmaehl at bigpond.net.au (Russ Maehl) Date: Fri Dec 3 11:34:52 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Feature Request In-Reply-To: Message-ID: The scripting sounds good. Could be the best way to satisfy different needs. Dropping a file on to an applescript and could could automatically start the sync....so a simple drag to install....perfect for me. Thanks, Russ On 4/12/04 5:52 AM, "Brian Hall" wrote: > At 5:40 PM +1100 12/3/04, Russ Maehl wrote: >> This is a feature request...unless there is a way to do it already. >> >> I would like the option of forcing MS into the 'install' mode if I drag a >> file into the areas reserved for installed files. At the moment I drag a >> file in and then have to switch over to 'Conduits' and then select install >> which for me has only install checked. >> >> Another way to look at it would be to replace the 'Synchronization' button >> with three buttons: >> >> 1. Sync >> 2. Sync and install >> 3. Install only. >> >> Would certainly make things better for me. >> > > We are adding scripting support to Missing Sync, so you could likely do > what you want with a future version of Missing Sync by writing an > applescript and/or 'droplet' (applescript that you can drop files on). > >> While on the topic of switching, I was wondering if MS could switch over to >> 'Internet Sharing' automatically when it detects a call from my Palm for >> internet access? > > There are technical reasons this is not possible for most handhelds. We > really tried. It would have made life easier for us as well (in terms of > tech support). > > Brian From sgruby at markspace.com Fri Dec 3 11:40:30 2004 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Fri Dec 3 11:40:59 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Feature Request In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <30AD4700-4563-11D9-991C-000D932F4F94@markspace.com> On Dec 3, 2004, at 11:34 AM, Russ Maehl wrote: > The scripting sounds good. Could be the best way to satisfy different > needs. Dropping a file on to an applescript and could could > automatically > start the sync....so a simple drag to install....perfect for me. > > Actually it can't start a sync; syncs can only be initiated by the handheld. -- Scott Gruby Lead Engineer, Missing Sync for Palm OS Mark/Space, Inc. Please contact support@markspace.com for assistance with Mark/Space products. From brian_hall at markspace.com Fri Dec 3 11:58:45 2004 From: brian_hall at markspace.com (Brian Hall) Date: Fri Dec 3 12:00:25 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Feature Request In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 6:34 AM +1100 12/4/04, Russ Maehl wrote: >The scripting sounds good. Could be the best way to satisfy different >needs. Dropping a file on to an applescript and could could automatically >start the sync....so a simple drag to install....perfect for me. You can't start a sync from the Mac, you can only start it from the handheld (limitation of Palm OS). However you could have the script queue the file for install, and set the conduit profile to "install only". brian -- _____________________________________________________________________ Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 654 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 Los Gatos, CA 95030-4360 From rmaehl at bigpond.net.au Sat Dec 4 08:42:34 2004 From: rmaehl at bigpond.net.au (Russ Maehl) Date: Fri Dec 3 13:42:44 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Feature Request In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Wishful thinking for MS to kick off the sync...but would be happy for the rest of the process to be scripted. Russ On 4/12/04 6:58 AM, "Brian Hall" wrote: > At 6:34 AM +1100 12/4/04, Russ Maehl wrote: >> The scripting sounds good. Could be the best way to satisfy different >> needs. Dropping a file on to an applescript and could could automatically >> start the sync....so a simple drag to install....perfect for me. > > You can't start a sync from the Mac, you can only start it from the > handheld (limitation of Palm OS). > > However you could have the script queue the file for install, and set the > conduit profile to "install only". > > brian From sgruby at markspace.com Fri Dec 3 14:35:57 2004 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Fri Dec 3 14:36:23 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Feature Request - Scripting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The script will look something like this (it isn't pretty, but it works): on open (theItems) tell application "Missing Sync for Palm OS" set installPath to path to install files set current profile to "Install" set mode to synchronize end tell with timeout of 1000000 seconds try tell application "Finder" repeat with oneItem in theItems set itemPath to quoted form of POSIX path of oneItem do shell script ("cp " & itemPath & " '" & installPath & "'") end repeat end tell on error errmsg --should anything go wrong let the user know display dialog errmsg end try end timeout end open There will be limited scripting in Missing Sync, but it should be enough to do a number of things, like get a list of handhelds, switch current handhelds (which you'll need to do if you have more than one and you want to install for a particular one), get a list of cards to install (which you can append to the install path to get the card install path), change to internet sharing, etc. -- Scott Gruby Lead Engineer, Missing Sync for Palm OS Mark/Space, Inc. Please contact support@markspace.com for assistance with Mark/Space products. From henryseiden at bellsouth.net Sat Dec 4 09:11:53 2004 From: henryseiden at bellsouth.net (Henry M. Seiden) Date: Sat Dec 4 06:12:07 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] How to get categories to sync properly In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <72AB0622-45FE-11D9-A23F-000393B3C6A2@bellsouth.net> What applications work for you on Palm & MAC (with Missing Sync) to get the categories in memos and in addressbook and in calendar (or what ever they're called on each platform)? I'm slowly getting fed up with the whole idea of platform and app dependency. If I have time, one of these days I'll just switch everything to a Filemaker database and be done with all this foolishness.... On Dec 1, 2004, at 4:50 PM, Jan Erik Mostr?m wrote: > On 2004-12-01 22:27, Michael Deleon wrote: > >> Is there a way to properly sync the categories on the mac end to >> be the same categories on the Palm OS end? > > Depends what applications you're using > > jem > -- > Jan Erik Mostr?m www.mostrom.pp.se "Grant me the senility to forget?the people I never liked anyway, the good fortune? to run into the ones I do, and the eyesight to tell?the difference."?Now, I think you're supposed to send this to five or?six, maybe 10 ... From henryseiden at bellsouth.net Sat Dec 4 11:18:34 2004 From: henryseiden at bellsouth.net (Henry M. Seiden) Date: Sat Dec 4 08:18:43 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] SplashPhoto 4.3b1 long image name Message-ID: <25AF31CC-4610-11D9-A23F-000393B3C6A2@bellsouth.net> Hello all, I am attempting to synchronize a picture with a long file name (originally on a desktop) from my handheld Cli? to another desktop using SplashPhoto. Going to the handheld Cli? running 5.0 and the latest Missing Sync software and the latest Splash, the file goes one way OK, but not the other way (back to another desktop). I am pretty sure this isn't a sync issue but rather a SplashPhoto issue that didn't get fixed evenb though it was reported to Splash several times in different venues and responded to by Splash folks that it would indeed be fixed in this latest update. Please note in the examples that the full file name is shown as appears in the directory. It is quoted even though the .jpg doesn't appear in the program for the picture name. As the name cannot be changed in Splashphoto Palm, each time the desktop name was shortened, I sync'd again, removed from the desktop and copied from handheld to verify. The failure message is somewhat ambiguous too, "**** Could not copy file to desktop "/Palm/Programs/SplashPhoto/DSC_0816_BegoniaSemperflorens.jpg" (-43).>>> Unexpected error -43." Most people don't know the directory/file structure of the Palm. I was reminded of the real meaning by Scott Gruby at MS (Missing Sync). Examples of what does NOT sync properly: DSC_0816_Begonia_Semperflorens_adj.jpg DSC_0816_Begonia_Semperflorens2.jpg DSC_0816_BegoniaSemperflorens.jpg The following name syncs both ways. I conclude therefore that names of 22 chars. to the left of the file descriptor or fewer (.jpg) will be OK. I leave it to others to figure the maximum number of characters that do work- gave up after finding a working solution. This works: DSC_0816_BegoniaSemper.jpg This is clearly sub standard in any OS, especially so when the failure occurs syncing files in one direction only and led to suspecting a Sync issue with another third party program. The longer file name exists just fine on Palm and syncs from Desktop to Palm. It exists just fine on my desktop too. I do not know the situation for WIN desktops. Why doesn't it work when sync'ing from Palm to desktop??? Hey I don't know about the rest of you guys, but I'd like to count on file names of a given length working and that length should be the longest length allowed by the OS on the platform, not an arbitrary semi-limit imposed some of the time. Now that I did all the research for Splash on this complicated issue involving Missing Sync, upgrades of both programs, diagnosing, documenting, and reporting back continuing difficulties reported first on this list and the Splash website a month ago, how about a free copy of the update to those who participated, for their friends who currently don't use your programs? Henry -- Last week I stated this woman was the ugliest woman I had ever seen. I have since been visited by her sister and now wish to withdraw that statement. (Mark Twain) From sgruby at markspace.com Sat Dec 4 09:50:52 2004 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Sat Dec 4 09:51:19 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: SplashPhoto 4.3b1 long image name In-Reply-To: <25AF31CC-4610-11D9-A23F-000393B3C6A2@bellsouth.net> References: <25AF31CC-4610-11D9-A23F-000393B3C6A2@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <0A32EC1D-461D-11D9-89C4-000D932F4F94@markspace.com> On Dec 4, 2004, at 8:18 AM, Henry M. Seiden wrote: > Hello all, > > I am attempting to synchronize a picture with a long file name > (originally on a desktop) from my handheld Cli? to another desktop > using SplashPhoto. Going to the handheld Cli? running 5.0 and the > latest Missing Sync software and the latest Splash, the file goes one > way OK, but not the other way (back to another desktop). I am pretty > sure this isn't a sync issue but rather a SplashPhoto issue that > didn't get fixed evenb though it was reported to Splash several times > in different venues and responded to by Splash folks that it would > indeed be fixed in this latest update. > > Please note in the examples that the full file name is shown as > appears in the directory. It is quoted even though the .jpg doesn't > appear in the program for the picture name. As the name cannot be > changed in Splashphoto Palm, each time the desktop name was shortened, > I sync'd again, removed from the desktop and copied from handheld to > verify. The failure message is somewhat ambiguous too, "**** Could not > copy file to desktop > "/Palm/Programs/SplashPhoto/DSC_0816_BegoniaSemperflorens.jpg" > (-43).>>> Unexpected error -43." Most people don't know the > directory/file structure of the Palm. I was reminded of the real > meaning by Scott Gruby at MS (Missing Sync). > > > Examples of what does NOT sync properly: > DSC_0816_Begonia_Semperflorens_adj.jpg > DSC_0816_Begonia_Semperflorens2.jpg > DSC_0816_BegoniaSemperflorens.jpg > > The following name syncs both ways. I conclude therefore that names of > 22 chars. to the left of the file descriptor or fewer (.jpg) will be > OK. I leave it to others to figure the maximum number of characters > that do work- gave up after finding a working solution. > This works: > DSC_0816_BegoniaSemper.jpg > First off, please don't send me email directly. If you have a support issue, please contact our support folks; they are very good at helping. If you send me mail directly, it only delays your issue being solved as I'm quite busy working on Missing Sync. I chime in on the mailing list when I have time and when it appears that others can't help. Also, messages about issues sent to our support folks will get resolved more quickly than posted to this list. I recommend that you contact the SplashPhoto folks (through their normal support channels and not on an open mailing list) to see if you can work with them on the issue. I have examined the issue and at the moment, believe it is a SplashPhoto issue. Once they investigate it, if it turns out that they don't believe it is their issue, we will work with their engineer to determine where the problem lies and fix it. BTW, it does appear that you can rename the photos on the handheld from within SplashPhoto as far as I have tested. Thanks. -- Scott Gruby Lead Engineer, Missing Sync for Palm OS Mark/Space, Inc. Please contact support@markspace.com for assistance with Mark/Space products. From lists at mostrom.pp.se Sat Dec 4 19:47:43 2004 From: lists at mostrom.pp.se (Jan Erik =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mostr=F6m?=) Date: Sat Dec 4 10:47:46 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] How to get categories to sync properly In-Reply-To: <72AB0622-45FE-11D9-A23F-000393B3C6A2@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: On 2004-12-04 15:11, Henry M. Seiden wrote: > What applications work for you on Palm & MAC (with Missing Sync) to get > the categories in memos and in addressbook and in calendar (or what > ever they're called on each platform)? I don't know ... I'm currently using Group Organizer but it doesn't work with Missing Sync. I'm considering Now UTD/C but I haven't decided yet, I think it works with Missing Sync. > I'm slowly getting fed up with the whole idea of platform and app > dependency. If I have time, one of these days I'll just switch > everything to a Filemaker database and be done with all this > foolishness.... Well, it's always a question about what different applications can do, in this case iSync doesn't support it ... why I have no idea, possible because categories doesn't exist in iCal or Address Book (OK, iCal could be discussed). It's the same thing with FileMaker, it doesn't handle everything either. jem -- Jan Erik Mostr?m www.mostrom.pp.se From trentsongs at att.net Sat Dec 4 16:08:51 2004 From: trentsongs at att.net (Darrell Trent) Date: Sat Dec 4 14:08:55 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] MS Stopped Working - help! In-Reply-To: <200412042000.iB4K0eEN010240@penguin.markspace.com> Message-ID: I've used MS since it's initial release with no problems until installing 4.02, now I cannot sync at all. MCC won't even launch; the icon bounces then stops without taking any action. The system does not display any error message. I've changed no settings before or since upgrading to 4.02. I'm running Jaguar 10.3.6. I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling MS, but it still won't launch. When I press the hotsynch button, my T3 responds and it's display indicates synch is in process but nothing ever happens and I'm forced to reset in order to quit hotsynch. The desktop never responds; there is no progress bar or message displayed. I also tried uninstalling MS, logging in as root user and reinstalling MS 4.02. Didn't make a difference. Tried repairing permissions. The closest I've come to a solution is by repeatedly launching MS until it eventually works, at least for one hotsynch session. After that, I'm back to square one. Any suggestions? From mail at wlinkw.com Sun Dec 5 11:42:56 2004 From: mail at wlinkw.com (W Yu) Date: Sat Dec 4 16:43:13 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] MS Stopped Working - help! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Darrell Trent at trentsongs@att.net wrote on 05/12/04 09:08: > I've used MS since it's initial release with no problems until > installing 4.02, now I cannot sync at all. MCC won't even launch; the icon > bounces then stops without taking any action. The system does not display > any error message. I've changed no settings before or since upgrading to > 4.02. I'm running Jaguar 10.3.6. > > I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling MS, but it still won't launch. > When I press the hotsynch button, my T3 responds and it's display > indicates synch is in process but nothing ever happens and I'm forced to > reset in order to quit hotsynch. The desktop never responds; there is no > progress bar or message displayed. > > I also tried uninstalling MS, logging in as root user and reinstalling MS > 4.02. Didn't make a difference. Tried repairing permissions. > > The closest I've come to a solution is by repeatedly launching MS until it > eventually works, at least for one hotsynch session. After that, I'm back > to square one. > > Any suggestions? I also had this exact problem when I was using 4.0.2's beta version. Spent a long series of exchanges with support but never fixed the problem. Recently after 4.0.2's update, all problems disappeared. No ideas why. I would suggest that you use OnyX and try to clear some of OS's caches (read instruction very carefully). Maybe try another installation. Temporally in my case, the clearing of cache may have made a difference, but I have no absolute proof. It's all a bit weird but good luck! -- From sgruby at markspace.com Sat Dec 4 16:51:32 2004 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Sat Dec 4 16:51:58 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] MS Stopped Working - help! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Dec 4, 2004, at 2:08 PM, Darrell Trent wrote: > I've used MS since it's initial release with no problems until > installing 4.02, now I cannot sync at all. MCC won't even launch; > the icon > bounces then stops without taking any action. The system does not > display > any error message. I've changed no settings before or since upgrading > to > 4.02. I'm running Jaguar 10.3.6. > > I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling MS, but it still won't launch. > When I press the hotsynch button, my T3 responds and it's display > indicates synch is in process but nothing ever happens and I'm forced > to > reset in order to quit hotsynch. The desktop never responds; there is > no > progress bar or message displayed. > > I also tried uninstalling MS, logging in as root user and reinstalling > MS > 4.02. Didn't make a difference. Tried repairing permissions. > > The closest I've come to a solution is by repeatedly launching MS > until it > eventually works, at least for one hotsynch session. After that, I'm > back > to square one. > > Any suggestions? > I'd take a look in console.log (launch Console) and see if anything indicates a Missing Sync crash or something like that. You said you're running Jaguar 10.3.6; are you running Jaguar (10.2) or Panther (10.3)? I suspect Panther. Feel free to post the last part of your log hear (last 25 lines or so). -- Scott Gruby Lead Engineer, Missing Sync for Palm OS Mark/Space, Inc. Please contact support@markspace.com for assistance with Mark/Space products. From hacker at gnu-designs.com Sat Dec 4 21:20:37 2004 From: hacker at gnu-designs.com (David A. Desrosiers) Date: Sat Dec 4 18:21:27 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Excruciatingly long sync times over network/LANSync Message-ID: Is there some setting I can twiddle in Missing Sync to allow it to sycronize faster over 802.11x? It connects almost immediately, but then spends the first 3-4 minutes at the "Gathering Information" dialog on the OSX side, before it starts to syncronize any of the actual conduit data across, even if I disable every conduit except "Calendar". Exactly what information is it gathering, and why does it take so excruciatingly long to get it to sync? Since a fully charged T3 + palmOne Wi-Fi card gives me 10 minutes of battery life, max, before draining the unit completely, cutting overall sync time down, is absolutely crucial. If I am doing a full backup, I'm out of juice before the backup completes. I've checked all of the obvious settings, and I can pull data across at just over 2MiB/sec. using just pilot-link itself, but when using the Missing Sync interface and conduit, it takes roughly 8 minutes to sync _just_ my Calendar. Two syncs in a row, and I'm out oft battery completely, from a full charge (yes, I realize the battery issue is solely due to the horrible design of the Wi-Fi card, but the problem still exists). I'll try using the wired cradle with LANSync next and see if it is any faster, but any tips or pointers you could provide would be useful. Thanks. David A. Desrosiers desrod@gnu-designs.com http://gnu-designs.com From sgruby at markspace.com Sat Dec 4 18:28:30 2004 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Sat Dec 4 18:28:56 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Excruciatingly long sync times over network/LANSync In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5A8B0CDA-4665-11D9-89C4-000D932F4F94@markspace.com> On Dec 4, 2004, at 6:20 PM, David A. Desrosiers wrote: > > Is there some setting I can twiddle in Missing Sync to allow > it to sycronize faster over 802.11x? It connects almost immediately, > but then spends the first 3-4 minutes at the "Gathering Information" > dialog on the OSX side, before it starts to syncronize any of the > actual conduit data across, even if I disable every conduit except > "Calendar". > It is reading a list of all the databases on the handheld; on a fully loaded device, there can be a large number of databases. We are investigating speed issues with Network Sync (we addressed USB syncing speed in 4.0.2 and we can't get everything fixed in every release). There are definitely improvements that can be made in the sync. > I've checked all of the obvious settings, and I can pull data > across at just over 2MiB/sec. using just pilot-link itself, but when > using the Missing Sync interface and conduit, it takes roughly 8 > minutes to sync _just_ my Calendar. Two syncs in a row, and I'm out > oft battery completely, from a full charge (yes, I realize the > battery issue is solely due to the horrible design of the Wi-Fi card, > but the problem still exists). > Send me the latest pilot-link source and that will go a long way in helping me speed up the sync. -- Scott Gruby Lead Engineer, Missing Sync for Palm OS Mark/Space, Inc. Please contact support@markspace.com for assistance with Mark/Space products. From hacker at gnu-designs.com Sat Dec 4 21:52:39 2004 From: hacker at gnu-designs.com (David A. Desrosiers) Date: Sat Dec 4 18:53:27 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Excruciatingly long sync times over network/LANSync In-Reply-To: <5A8B0CDA-4665-11D9-89C4-000D932F4F94@markspace.com> References: <5A8B0CDA-4665-11D9-89C4-000D932F4F94@markspace.com> Message-ID: > Send me the latest pilot-link source and that will go a long way in > helping me speed up the sync. It's all available in public CVS, give it a try. We've made enormous leaps in speed and capabilities using native Darwin USB. David A. Desrosiers desrod@gnu-designs.com http://gnu-designs.com From hacker at gnu-designs.com Sat Dec 4 22:10:39 2004 From: hacker at gnu-designs.com (David A. Desrosiers) Date: Sat Dec 4 19:11:28 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Excruciatingly long sync times over network/LANSync In-Reply-To: <5A8B0CDA-4665-11D9-89C4-000D932F4F94@markspace.com> References: <5A8B0CDA-4665-11D9-89C4-000D932F4F94@markspace.com> Message-ID: > It is reading a list of all the databases on the handheld; on a > fully loaded device, there can be a large number of databases. I've only installed about 20 applications, but the list of files on the device (RAM and ROM) is over 400. The data + apps on the device total 293 files. The total size is 23M, with the largest being Vindigo (which I keep all conduits for, in the disabled state). It should be that long to enumerate through these by name or CreatorID. If the Backup conduit is disabled, why do you need to enumerate at all? Wouldn't just doing a dlp_FindDBByTypeCreator for each of the registered (and activated) conduits, suffice? > We are investigating speed issues with Network Sync (we addressed > USB syncing speed in 4.0.2 and we can't get everything fixed in > every release). Of course, and I sympathize. We're fighting it on our end as well. We just uncovered a very ugly bug with T5/Zire31 devices the other day, and implemented a pseudo-workaround. The bug is down at the chip level, unfortunately. > There are definitely improvements that can be made in the sync. Right, but the sheer number of working and broken and odd devices that we both have to support in our respective camps, makes that very difficult to "Fix Right(tm)", and in a way that doesn't break sync for other previously-working devices. I'll keep beating on this a bit, and seeing if I can identify the slowdowns with Ethereal for LANSync and my dlp/net plugins for local sync. I'll contact you off-list with some other info. David A. Desrosiers desrod@gnu-designs.com http://gnu-designs.com From sgruby at markspace.com Sat Dec 4 19:23:13 2004 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Sat Dec 4 19:23:37 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Excruciatingly long sync times over network/LANSync In-Reply-To: References: <5A8B0CDA-4665-11D9-89C4-000D932F4F94@markspace.com> Message-ID: On Dec 4, 2004, at 7:10 PM, David A. Desrosiers wrote: > >> It is reading a list of all the databases on the handheld; on a >> fully loaded device, there can be a large number of databases. > > I've only installed about 20 applications, but the list of > files on the device (RAM and ROM) is over 400. The data + apps on the > device total 293 files. The total size is 23M, with the largest being > Vindigo (which I keep all conduits for, in the disabled state). > > It should be that long to enumerate through these by name or > CreatorID. If the Backup conduit is disabled, why do you need to > enumerate at all? Wouldn't just doing a dlp_FindDBByTypeCreator for > each of the registered (and activated) conduits, suffice? > When each conduit is run, we pass a list of databases to the conduit. It may be faster to gather up the databases when the conduit is run, but for now, we gather up all the database information at startup and then we don't have to query it again for each conduit. The code that runs the conduits has been worked on a bunch in order to have as many conduits as possible work. Many conduits have different behaviors and we've had to keep working in it to ensure compatibility. I'll re-visit this to see about speed improvements; over USB, this phase is very fast and right now I'd take conduit compatibility over a little speed. We have to re-test a large number of conduits every time I work on this, so changes are not taken lightly. >> There are definitely improvements that can be made in the sync. > > Right, but the sheer number of working and broken and odd > devices that we both have to support in our respective camps, makes > that very difficult to "Fix Right(tm)", and in a way that doesn't > break sync for other previously-working devices. > For us, the devices don't give us many problems; it is the conduits that are very hard to support as developers have been so used to HotSync Manager, that we've had to attempt to be as close to HotSync Manager as possible, including the bugs. > I'll keep beating on this a bit, and seeing if I can identify > the slowdowns with Ethereal for LANSync and my dlp/net plugins for > local sync. > > I'll contact you off-list with some other info. > > David A. Desrosiers > desrod@gnu-designs.com > http://gnu-designs.com > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > > -- Scott Gruby Lead Engineer, Missing Sync for Palm OS Mark/Space, Inc. Please contact support@markspace.com for assistance with Mark/Space products. From luke at shrimper.org.uk Sun Dec 5 13:14:48 2004 From: luke at shrimper.org.uk (Luke Bosman) Date: Sun Dec 5 05:16:03 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] MS Stopped Working - help! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 4 Dec 2004, at 22:08, Darrell Trent wrote: > I've used MS since it's initial release with no problems until > installing 4.02, now I cannot sync at all. MCC won't even launch; > the icon > bounces then stops without taking any action. The system does not > display > any error message. I've changed no settings before or since upgrading > to > 4.02. I'm running Jaguar 10.3.6. > > I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling MS, but it still won't launch. > When I press the hotsynch button, my T3 responds and it's display > indicates synch is in process but nothing ever happens and I'm forced > to > reset in order to quit hotsynch. The desktop never responds; there is > no > progress bar or message displayed. > > I also tried uninstalling MS, logging in as root user and reinstalling > MS > 4.02. Didn't make a difference. Tried repairing permissions. This sounds like the problem I had. I forget exactly what solved the problem but it involved repairing permissions before and after reinstalling MS. If you look through the list archives, you should find my post. Luke -- http://www.shrimper.org.uk/ From brashier at cvm.msstate.edu Mon Dec 6 08:41:28 2004 From: brashier at cvm.msstate.edu (Michael Brashier) Date: Mon Dec 6 06:47:20 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: missing-sync-palmos-talk Digest, Vol 19, Issue 5 In-Reply-To: <200412051317.iB5DHlEM008591@penguin.markspace.com> References: <200412051317.iB5DHlEM008591@penguin.markspace.com> Message-ID: missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com on Sunday, December 5, 2004 at 7:17 AM +0000 wrote: >I've used MS since it's initial release with no problems until > installing 4.02, now I cannot sync at all. MCC won't even launch; the >icon >bounces then stops without taking any action. The system does not display >any error message. I've changed no settings before or since upgrading to >4.02. I am experiencing the exact same thing. I installed the upgrade, which was running fine until I tried to run Documents To Go which wouldn't work at all. It would freeze up every time and I would have to do a Force Quit to get out of it. I reinstalled Documents To Go and now it seems to work when I can actually get Missing Sync to load which takes trying to open it 2 or 3 times. When it finally does open, it seems to work, although I will have to say it worries me. I have repaired permissions to no avail. Anyone else got any ideas? Michael Brashier, DVM, Dip. ACVIM Ph#: 662-325-1448 P.O. Box 6100 Fax: 662-325-4011 Mississippi State, MS 39762 email: brashier@cvm.msstate.edu From rebbi at texas.net Mon Dec 6 12:59:58 2004 From: rebbi at texas.net (Folberg Steven) Date: Mon Dec 6 11:00:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Some events aren't syncing to Entourage 2004 Message-ID: Hi, My setup: Using the latest Microsoft Entourage conduit for Entourage 2004, syncing with a Sony Clie SJ-33 (Palm OS 4.x) using Missing Sync 4.x. My Datebook application is Datebook 5. Briefly, I have a group of Datebook 5 events that aren't syncing to Entourage when I hotsync. All are contained on the same date on the handheld, and all are "floating events." Datebook 5 has already moved these "floaters" (which Entourage understands as un-timed, all day events) to today (Sunday) while in Entourage, they're stuck on last Thursday. I also noticed earlier that another appointment from last Thursday that appeared on my handheld wasn't appearing in Entourage after a hotsync. Adding a word to the appointment on the handheld seemed to fix this, and the event transferred over to Entourage. I also sync the same handheld with Outlook 2003 on the PeeCee at work, and, apart from the forced "slow sync" mode each time I switch machines, have never had any problems with this. As far as I can recall, I never saw this problem of non-syncing events before moving to Missing Sync 4.x to replace Palm's Hotsync Manager, although I could be wrong about that. Since it's the Microsoft Entourage Conduit that's doing all the heavy lifting here, I don't see why that would make a difference. By the way, I tried removing and then reinstalling the Entourage Conduit, but it didn't help. One other question: is it true that enabling the more detailed log function in MS slows down sync times? All help appreciated! Steve From uli at kudicke.net Tue Dec 7 12:39:24 2004 From: uli at kudicke.net (Uli Kudicke) Date: Tue Dec 7 03:39:33 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] No isyncing with Palm...need help, please Message-ID: Hello, I am confronted with a problem I cannot solve: iSync does not sync my iCal and Address Book any more. Missing Sync works fine for the backup, Docs2Go, Filemaker conduit etc.. Missing Sync is to my knowledge not "the bad guy". It's only the iSync conduit (or iSync itself) making trouble. In my Missing Sync log file this part catches my eye: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------ 07.12.04 00:24 iSync Conduit starting ?07.12.04 00:29 Timeout waiting for Sync Engine, exiting ?iSync Conduit fehlgeschlagen (0xfffffffe) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------ (note: "fehlgeschlagen" means failure) This means to me Missing Sync was waiting for 5 minutes for the Sync Engine to start. If I don't abort the sync, after the timeout Missing Sync keeps on going with the rest of the conduits. The progress bar opens in iSync for 1 or 2 seconds and closes again. The bar is only white - no blue progress bar starting. No status text below the progress bar. The iSync log stays empty. I have deleted Missing Sync totally today and installed Palm Desktop - but I had the same story with HotSync Manager: Everything OK, except iSync. A try with iSync 1.4 and 1.2 had same results. The (iSync Palm) Apple conduit is 3.0.1 as GetInfo shows. Two things might be relevant: Missing Sync puts one pref file in root/library/preferences and one in user/library/preferences with the same name (com.markspace.missingsync.palmos.plist). both with different content. Is this normal? iSync or iSyncPalm conduit is not creating a preference file with something like ....isync(palm?)registry... I have seen this file before once when deleting the iSync prefs for a fresh start up. And it feels like iSync just doesn't "see" my address book and my calendars... Maybe iSync looks at the wrong place! Putting aliases for Calendars and Addressbook in root/library did not work either. What I did so far: I de-installed everything (iSync, iSyncPalm conduit, Missing Sync) and installed it again. Several times. I repaired the permissions - several times. Changed Hotsync name - no success. When I had the same trouble 3 weeks ago to make it work again I did a complete re-install of EVERYTHING on my computer - from scratch. This time I wish I could avoid this 2-days work.... Although I'm sure it's not the fault of Missing Sync I hope someone here has some knowledge to help me getting my things synced again. I put this to Apple too. Don't know what else to do.... Thanks for your help Uli From atmasphere at atmasphere.net Tue Dec 7 09:00:10 2004 From: atmasphere at atmasphere.net (Jonathan Greene) Date: Tue Dec 7 06:00:16 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] No isyncing with Palm...need help, please In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4F1A3221-4858-11D9-91AC-000A95C47866@atmasphere.net> Have you tried re-installing iSync and the Palm conduit - I'd do it after you install Missing Sync. You don't need Palm Desktop installed at all. On Dec 7, 2004, at 6:39 AM, Uli Kudicke wrote: > Hello, > > I am confronted with a problem I cannot solve: > iSync does not sync my iCal and Address Book any more. > > Missing Sync works fine for the backup, Docs2Go, Filemaker conduit > etc.. > Missing Sync is to my knowledge not "the bad guy". > It's only the iSync conduit (or iSync itself) making trouble. > > In my Missing Sync log file this part catches my eye: > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------- > 07.12.04 00:24 iSync Conduit starting > ?07.12.04 00:29 Timeout waiting for Sync Engine, exiting > ?iSync Conduit fehlgeschlagen (0xfffffffe) > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------- > (note: "fehlgeschlagen" means failure) > > This means to me Missing Sync was waiting for 5 minutes for the Sync > Engine to start. If I don't abort the sync, after the timeout Missing > Sync keeps on going with the rest of the conduits. > The progress bar opens in iSync for 1 or 2 seconds and closes again. > The bar is only white - no blue progress bar starting. No status text > below the progress bar. The iSync log stays empty. > > I have deleted Missing Sync totally today and installed Palm Desktop - > but I had the same story with HotSync Manager: Everything OK, except > iSync. > A try with iSync 1.4 and 1.2 had same results. The (iSync Palm) Apple > conduit is 3.0.1 as GetInfo shows. > > Two things might be relevant: > > Missing Sync puts one pref file in root/library/preferences and one in > user/library/preferences with the same name > (com.markspace.missingsync.palmos.plist). both with different content. > Is this normal? > > iSync or iSyncPalm conduit is not creating a preference file with > something like ....isync(palm?)registry... I have seen this file > before once when deleting the iSync prefs for a fresh start up. > > And it feels like iSync just doesn't "see" my address book and my > calendars... > Maybe iSync looks at the wrong place! Putting aliases for Calendars > and Addressbook in root/library did not work either. > > What I did so far: I de-installed everything (iSync, iSyncPalm > conduit, Missing Sync) and installed it again. Several times. > I repaired the permissions - several times. > Changed Hotsync name - no success. > > When I had the same trouble 3 weeks ago to make it work again I did a > complete re-install of EVERYTHING on my computer - from scratch. > This time I wish I could avoid this 2-days work.... > > Although I'm sure it's not the fault of Missing Sync I hope someone > here has some knowledge to help me getting my things synced again. > > I put this to Apple too. > > Don't know what else to do.... > > Thanks for your help > > Uli > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > From rebbi at texas.net Tue Dec 7 08:43:08 2004 From: rebbi at texas.net (Folberg Steven) Date: Tue Dec 7 06:43:15 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Some events aren't syncing to Entourage 2004 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Well (perhaps to answer my own question) I tried having the handheld overwrite the desktop. That worked (although the first time I tried, the Entourage conduit failed with some obscure error number -- strange!!) and subsequent hotsyncs have worked okay. So perhaps something in the database had become corrupted. Steve On 12/6/04 12:59 PM, "Folberg Steven" wrote: > Hi, > > My setup: Using the latest Microsoft Entourage conduit for Entourage 2004, > syncing with a Sony Clie SJ-33 (Palm OS 4.x) using Missing Sync 4.x. My > Datebook application is Datebook 5. > > Briefly, I have a group of Datebook 5 events that aren't syncing to > Entourage when I hotsync. All are contained on the same date on the > handheld, and all are "floating events." Datebook 5 has already moved these > "floaters" (which Entourage understands as un-timed, all day events) to > today (Sunday) while in Entourage, they're stuck on last Thursday. I also > noticed earlier that another appointment from last Thursday that appeared on > my handheld wasn't appearing in Entourage after a hotsync. Adding a word to > the appointment on the handheld seemed to fix this, and the event > transferred over to Entourage. I also sync the same handheld with Outlook > 2003 on the PeeCee at work, and, apart from the forced "slow sync" mode each > time I switch machines, have never had any problems with this. > > As far as I can recall, I never saw this problem of non-syncing events > before moving to Missing Sync 4.x to replace Palm's Hotsync Manager, > although I could be wrong about that. Since it's the Microsoft Entourage > Conduit that's doing all the heavy lifting here, I don't see why that would > make a difference. > > By the way, I tried removing and then reinstalling the Entourage Conduit, > but it didn't help. > > One other question: is it true that enabling the more detailed log function > in MS slows down sync times? > > All help appreciated! > > Steve > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > "You are not required to complete the work, but neither are you free to abstain from it." -- Rabbi Tarfon, Pirkei Avot From sgruby at markspace.com Tue Dec 7 07:10:37 2004 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Tue Dec 7 07:11:07 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] No isyncing with Palm...need help, please In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2690E482-4862-11D9-89C4-000D932F4F94@markspace.com> On Dec 7, 2004, at 3:39 AM, Uli Kudicke wrote: > > Two things might be relevant: > > Missing Sync puts one pref file in root/library/preferences and one in > user/library/preferences with the same name > (com.markspace.missingsync.palmos.plist). both with different content. > Is this normal? > > Yes, this is normal. We store the registration information in both places so that you don't have to re-register when you switch OS X users. -- Scott Gruby Lead Engineer, Missing Sync for Palm OS Mark/Space, Inc. Please contact support@markspace.com for assistance with Mark/Space products. From lukebosman at gmail.com Tue Dec 7 16:19:18 2004 From: lukebosman at gmail.com (Luke Bosman) Date: Tue Dec 7 08:19:23 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] No isyncing with Palm...need help, please In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 12:39:24 +0100, Uli Kudicke wrote: > Hello, > > I am confronted with a problem I cannot solve: > iSync does not sync my iCal and Address Book any more. > > Missing Sync works fine for the backup, Docs2Go, Filemaker conduit etc.. > Missing Sync is to my knowledge not "the bad guy". > It's only the iSync conduit (or iSync itself) making trouble. > > In my Missing Sync log file this part catches my eye: > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ------ > 07.12.04 00:24 iSync Conduit starting > ?07.12.04 00:29 Timeout waiting for Sync Engine, exiting > ?iSync Conduit fehlgeschlagen (0xfffffffe) > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ------ I get something similar. I'll post my logs tonight when I get home. >From memory, they refer to NSyncServer. Luke From uli at kudicke.net Tue Dec 7 20:50:51 2004 From: uli at kudicke.net (Uli Kudicke) Date: Tue Dec 7 11:51:04 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] No isyncing with Palm...need help, please In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4CBCBDC1-4889-11D9-B984-000A95C8C3C0@kudicke.net> Hello everybody who tried to solve my problem, I found the problem! When I was creating backups of my data I've put them in folders (with date as name) and left them in the application support folders. When I went trough all possibilities and looked in all folders again and again suddenly I thought I should take everything out which was not there before. After that: iSync is back! Conclusion: Never have ANY folders in Address Book or Calendars folders! Thanks for your help (it kept me thinking over and over it again anyway) In case somebody has a similar problem you might be able to help then. Thanks a lot. To Scott: This problem I've reported also to Mark&Space support. Please let them know: it's solved! And I'm so happy, that my test with Palm's HotSyncManager did not make iSync work either. So I can keep using Missing Sync with all its advantages! Best, Uli From bhenry at apple.com Tue Dec 7 19:33:10 2004 From: bhenry at apple.com (Bill Henry) Date: Tue Dec 7 17:33:18 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] MS over USB and conflict with Audible Palm plugin I recently installed the Audible Palm plugin on my PB - using it with my Treo 650. I notice that I can synch with MS over bluetooth - but I can no longer synch with USB - when iTunes is open. It looks like iTunes and the Palm plugin conflicts with the USB driver - cannot tell if this is a Palm Audible bug or MS USB thing. Here is what I see in the console when attempt a sync with iTunes open, trying to sync over USB cable. Bluetooth sysc works fine. Closing iTunes and USB synch works fine. Removing the Audible plugin and leaving iTunes open works fine. Dec 7 09:58:32 PowerBookG4 kernel: USBF:36499.188AppleUSBHubPort: Error 0xe00002ed: set feature (resetting port) Dec 7 09:58:34 PowerBookG4 kernel: USBF:36500.977IOUSBInterface[0x22d8c00]::handleOpen failing because super::handleOpen failed (someone already has it open) Dec 7 09:58:34 PowerBookG4 kernel: USBF:36500.977IOUSBInterface[0x22d8c00]::open super! USBF:36505.523+AppleUSBOHCI[0x1b2b000]::ReturnOneTransaction(0x11c11194, 0x1b82e50, e0004051) Dec 7 09:58:42 PowerBookG4 kernel: USBF:36509.523+AppleUSBOHCI[0x1b2b000]::ReturnOneTransaction(0x11c11200, 0x1b82e50, e0004051) Dec 7 09:58:46 PowerBookG4 kernel: USBF:36513.523+AppleUSBOHCI[0x1b2b000]::ReturnOneTransaction(0x11c11170, 0x1b82e50, e0004051) Dec 7 09:58:50 PowerBookG4 kernel: USBF:36517.523+AppleUSBOHCI[0x1b2b000]::ReturnOneTransaction(0x11c111b8, 0x1b82e50, e0004051) Dec 7 09:58:54 PowerBookG4 kernel: USBF:36521.523+AppleUSBOHCI[0x1b2b000]::ReturnOneTransaction(0x11c1114c, 0x1b82e50, e0004051) Message-ID: <1E8C748C-48B9-11D9-BF22-000A95C8F458@apple.com> I recently installed the Audible Palm plugin on my PB - using it with my Treo 650. I notice that I can synch with MS over bluetooth - but I can no longer synch with USB - when iTunes is open. It looks like iTunes and the Palm plugin conflicts with the USB driver - cannot tell if this is a Palm Audible bug or MS USB thing. Here is what I see in the console when attempt a sync with iTunes open, trying to sync over USB cable. Bluetooth sysc works fine. Closing iTunes and USB synch works fine. Removing the Audible plugin and leaving iTunes open works fine. Dec 7 09:58:32 PowerBookG4 kernel: USBF: 36499.188 AppleUSBHubPort: Error 0xe00002ed: set feature (resetting port) Dec 7 09:58:34 PowerBookG4 kernel: USBF: 36500.977 IOUSBInterface[0x22d8c00]::handleOpen failing because super::handleOpen failed (someone already has it open) Dec 7 09:58:34 PowerBookG4 kernel: USBF: 36500.977 IOUSBInterface[0x22d8c00]::open super::open failed (0x0) Dec 7 09:58:38 PowerBookG4 kernel: USBF: 36505.523 +AppleUSBOHCI[0x1b2b000]:: ReturnOneTransaction(0x11c11194, 0x1b82e50, e0004051) Dec 7 09:58:42 PowerBookG4 kernel: USBF: 36509.523 +AppleUSBOHCI[0x1b2b000]:: ReturnOneTransaction(0x11c11200, 0x1b82e50, e0004051) Dec 7 09:58:46 PowerBookG4 kernel: USBF: 36513.523 +AppleUSBOHCI[0x1b2b000]:: ReturnOneTransaction(0x11c11170, 0x1b82e50, e0004051) Dec 7 09:58:50 PowerBookG4 kernel: USBF: 36517.523 +AppleUSBOHCI[0x1b2b000]:: ReturnOneTransaction(0x11c111b8, 0x1b82e50, e0004051) Dec 7 09:58:54 PowerBookG4 kernel: USBF: 36521.523 +AppleUSBOHCI[0x1b2b000]:: ReturnOneTransaction(0x11c1114c, 0x1b82e50, e0004051) Dec 7 09:58:58 PowerBookG4 kernel: USBF: 36525.523 +AppleUSBOHCI[0x1b2b000]:: ReturnOneTransaction(0x11c11074, 0x1b82e50, e0004051) From sgruby at markspace.com Tue Dec 7 18:09:48 2004 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Tue Dec 7 18:10:16 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] MS over USB and conflict with Audible Palm plugin In-Reply-To: <1E8C748C-48B9-11D9-BF22-000A95C8F458@apple.com> References: <1E8C748C-48B9-11D9-BF22-000A95C8F458@apple.com> Message-ID: <3CB1EB4A-48BE-11D9-8740-000D932F4F94@markspace.com> On Dec 7, 2004, at 5:33 PM, Bill Henry wrote: > > I recently installed the Audible Palm plugin on my PB - using it with > my Treo 650. > > I notice that I can synch with MS over bluetooth - but I can no longer > synch with USB - when iTunes is open. > > It looks like iTunes and the Palm plugin conflicts with the USB driver > - cannot tell if this is a Palm Audible bug or MS USB thing. > > Here is what I see in the console when attempt a sync with iTunes > open, trying to sync over USB cable. > Bluetooth sysc works fine. > Closing iTunes and USB synch works fine. Removing the Audible plugin > and leaving iTunes open works fine. > This is an issue with the Audible Plugin; it completely takes over the USB port and prevents Missing Sync from functioning over USB. In the old HotSync Manager days, it would actually terminate HotSync Manager when iTunes was running. I'd recommend contacting Audible and asking them to fix their plugin (or else just remove it). BTW, please don't put your entire message in the subject line. -- Scott Gruby Lead Engineer, Missing Sync for Palm OS Mark/Space, Inc. Please contact support@markspace.com for assistance with Mark/Space products. From sgruby at markspace.com Tue Dec 7 18:11:36 2004 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Tue Dec 7 18:12:02 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] MS over USB and conflict with Audible Palm plugin In-Reply-To: <1E8C748C-48B9-11D9-BF22-000A95C8F458@apple.com> References: <1E8C748C-48B9-11D9-BF22-000A95C8F458@apple.com> Message-ID: <7D5162BB-48BE-11D9-8740-000D932F4F94@markspace.com> Following up on my own post; we have this documented at: (I typed audible into the Knowledge base search and got the result.) -- Scott Gruby Lead Engineer, Missing Sync for Palm OS Mark/Space, Inc. Please contact support@markspace.com for assistance with Mark/Space products. From dbutenhof at mac.com Wed Dec 8 05:11:24 2004 From: dbutenhof at mac.com (Dave Butenhof) Date: Wed Dec 8 02:11:30 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Chronos Group Organizer and Missing Sync Message-ID: <83F9487A-4901-11D9-8F52-000D932C932A@mac.com> I finally got a response from Chronos support. The word is that modifying the Organizer conduit for Missing Sync is "too complicated", and they're not going to do it. They are, however, at work on a major update, and the support person implied (without actually saying) that this new update might be able to work with Missing Sync. While this isn't good news, at least it's news and there's hope that something will change. NOW is also working on a new version, which will perhaps solve C/UTD's problems. I've also seen suggestions that Tiger might support networked Address Book and iCal more directly and conveniently; and perhaps they'll also update the archaic hotsync conduit to actually become useful. So I guess I'm just waiting to see which of those three paths first leads to an acceptable group calendar and contact database. From lists at mostrom.pp.se Wed Dec 8 11:58:10 2004 From: lists at mostrom.pp.se (Jan Erik =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mostr=F6m?=) Date: Wed Dec 8 02:58:12 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Chronos Group Organizer and Missing Sync In-Reply-To: <83F9487A-4901-11D9-8F52-000D932C932A@mac.com> Message-ID: On 2004-12-08 11:11, Dave Butenhof wrote: > NOW is also working on a new version, which will perhaps solve C/UTD's > problems. Since I was just considering to switch to Now (just because of GO sync problems) could you tell me what the problems with Now is? jem -- Jan Erik Mostr?m www.mostrom.pp.se From uli at kudicke.net Wed Dec 8 21:08:58 2004 From: uli at kudicke.net (Uli Kudicke) Date: Wed Dec 8 12:09:04 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] No isyncing with Palm...need help, please In-Reply-To: <2690E482-4862-11D9-89C4-000D932F4F94@markspace.com> References: <2690E482-4862-11D9-89C4-000D932F4F94@markspace.com> Message-ID: My conclusion needs a little correction: Never create ANYTHING in iCal or Address Book folders. Scott J. Kramer pointed out, that Address Book could create a folder "images" in its folder. Best thing to do: Never touch those folders. Thanks for all suggestions. Uli From brashier at cvm.msstate.edu Wed Dec 8 14:17:38 2004 From: brashier at cvm.msstate.edu (Michael Brashier) Date: Wed Dec 8 12:23:33 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] MS won't open Message-ID: I have not seen any further discussion about the bouncing MS alias in the dock. I click it and it bounces but does not open. I replaced the alias in the dock. Same thing. I click it several times and it finally opens. When I go to applications and click the MS icon, same thing. I may have to try and open it 5 or 6 times before it actually opens. I repaired permissions to no avail. When MS finally does open, everything seems to work fine, although I worry trusting my data to a program that doesn't seem to be functioning properly. I uninstalled and re-installed and repaired permissions to no avail. Since I have done that, my AvantGo now gives me the message: javascript error: property not found: wwform. Although it is still downloading my AvantGo subscription material, I get this message on my Palm everytime I try to open my Accuweather download. My newspaper downloads don't give me the same message. I don't know if I messed up something with my Accuweather subscription when I uninstalled and re-installed, but I get a bleep and that message everytime. Any thoughts? I have one other question. When I got MS, I think it said in the instructions that it would be best not to be snycing on more than one computer. Is this so. I use my palm to carry documents that I am working on. If I can only sync to my computer at work, then I can't readily open and print personal doucments that I am working on. Or if I am working on work documents on a long weekend or holiday and I want to print them while at home, I can't unless I can sync to more than one computer. How much of a problem is this really? I have not tried to sync at home since I got MS, but would like to. I used to sync to both computers when I was using the palm software. I am using MS 4.0.2 on an iMac G5 and a Palm m515. Michael Brashier, DVM, Dip. ACVIM Ph#: 662-325-1448 P.O. Box 6100 Fax: 662-325-4011 Mississippi State, MS 39762 email: brashier@cvm.msstate.edu From me at johngruber.us Wed Dec 8 12:52:51 2004 From: me at johngruber.us (John M. Gruber) Date: Wed Dec 8 12:52:56 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] MS and Plucker Message-ID: <206F3AF2-495B-11D9-99B7-000A9577757C@johngruber.us> Have had MS for a while and want to use Plucker. The setup wizard doesn't see my handheld. What is the trick? Thanks. A good way to threaten somebody is to light a stick of dynamite. Then you call the guy and hold the burning fuse up to the phone. "Hear that?" you say. "That's dynamite, baby." From atmasphere at atmasphere.net Wed Dec 8 15:55:01 2004 From: atmasphere at atmasphere.net (Jonathan Greene) Date: Wed Dec 8 12:55:07 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] MS and Plucker In-Reply-To: <206F3AF2-495B-11D9-99B7-000A9577757C@johngruber.us> References: <206F3AF2-495B-11D9-99B7-000A9577757C@johngruber.us> Message-ID: <6DD9FE12-495B-11D9-B077-000A95C47866@atmasphere.net> I was not aware MS supported Plucker.... Thought you had to use the Plucker Desktop. Have you considered AvantGo? The recent beta is a nice upgrade and you can sync through MS with the MAL conduit. On Dec 8, 2004, at 3:52 PM, John M. Gruber wrote: > Have had MS for a while and want to use Plucker. The setup wizard > doesn't see my handheld. What is the trick? Thanks. > > A good way to threaten somebody is to light a stick of dynamite. Then > you call the guy and hold the burning fuse up to the phone. "Hear > that?" you say. "That's dynamite, baby." From sgruby at markspace.com Wed Dec 8 12:59:29 2004 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Wed Dec 8 12:59:55 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] MS won't open In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0DB5AFF2-495C-11D9-BC66-000D932F4F94@markspace.com> On Dec 8, 2004, at 12:17 PM, Michael Brashier wrote: > I have not seen any further discussion about the bouncing MS alias in > the > dock. I click it and it bounces but does not open. I replaced the > alias > in the dock. Same thing. I click it several times and it finally > opens. > When I go to applications and click the MS icon, same thing. Is there anything in the Console Log (Open up the Console application and look at the last few lines)? > > I have one other question. When I got MS, I think it said in the > instructions that it would be best not to be snycing on more than one > computer. Is this so. I use my palm to carry documents that I am > working > on. If I can only sync to my computer at work, then I can't readily > open > and print personal doucments that I am working on. Or if I am working > on > work documents on a long weekend or holiday and I want to print them > while > at home, I can't unless I can sync to more than one computer. How > much of > a problem is this really? I have not tried to sync at home since I got > MS, but would like to. I used to sync to both computers when I was > using > the palm software. > > While you can sync with 2 machines, there is a potential for data loss (this applies to HotSync Manager as well as Misisng Sync). There is a document at palmOne's website: which gives some useful information. -- Scott Gruby Lead Engineer, Missing Sync for Palm OS Mark/Space, Inc. Please contact support@markspace.com for assistance with Mark/Space products. From dbutenhof at mac.com Wed Dec 8 16:09:46 2004 From: dbutenhof at mac.com (Dave Butenhof) Date: Wed Dec 8 13:09:54 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: Chronos Group Organizer and Missing Sync In-Reply-To: <200412082002.iB8K2AEO013282@penguin.markspace.com> References: <200412082002.iB8K2AEO013282@penguin.markspace.com> Message-ID: <7D73A5A6-495D-11D9-8302-000D932C932A@mac.com> > From: Jan Erik Mostr?m > On 2004-12-08 11:11, Dave Butenhof wrote: > >> NOW is also working on a new version, which will perhaps solve >> C/UTD's problems. > > Since I was just considering to switch to Now (just because of GO sync > problems) could you tell me what the problems with Now is? Somewhere on this list (you can check archives through http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk) there have been several postings from people who've used NOW and were "unimpressed". Mostly it's "look and feel" issues, though I never got so far as trying to set up NOW servers -- the reason I'm using Group Organizer is to share calendar and contacts with my wife, so that's important. I fiddled around with the NOW demo trying to get the sync set up with my Palm, and it wasn't nearly as smooth as with Organizer. (For example, it can't even figure out what categories are in Calendar, though it seems to think it supports Palm categories.) Others have complained about sorting, about field organization and sizes. I actually got motivated to poke around a little more with NOW the other day, but my demo period had run out. Deleting "the obvious stuff" doesn't reset the demo period, and I'm not really motivated to work harder at it. Really, it sounds as if NOW is going to be the only practical or affordable group calendar/contact software for Palm/Mac for a long time. So if anyone has anything GOOD to say about NOW, I'd love to hear it. From brian_hall at markspace.com Wed Dec 8 15:49:34 2004 From: brian_hall at markspace.com (Brian Hall) Date: Wed Dec 8 15:49:42 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] MS and Plucker In-Reply-To: <206F3AF2-495B-11D9-99B7-000A9577757C@johngruber.us> References: <206F3AF2-495B-11D9-99B7-000A9577757C@johngruber.us> Message-ID: At 12:52 PM -0800 12/8/04, John M. Gruber wrote: >Have had MS for a while and want to use Plucker. The setup wizard >doesn't see my handheld. What is the trick? Thanks. It looks like the setup wizard is looking at data files directly (it picked up some old Palm Desktop users I had on my machine ages ago, rather than my current list from Missing Sync), rather than making "user manager" calls to enumerate the handhelds. I'm not familiar with how Plucker works, and the fact that it asks if the device is USB (and then says this option is not used on Mac... Why is it there then?), as well as where to install the files, makes me wonder if Plucker talks direct to the device instead of via a conduit or other mechanism. If you just want to get the viewer on the device (the point at which we are currently stuck), you can control-click on the Plucker app icon, pick "show package contents" and then in /Contents/Resources/viewer/palmos/" you will find the various bits and pieces of the viewer (presuming they are OK to manually install, and don't need to be massaged by the setup wizard). Hopefully some people with more Plucker experience than I (which is just downloading it and running it a few minutes ago!) will chime in... If you are a software engineer, the source for Plucker is available at the plucker web site, and is certainly the definitive answer... Brian -- _____________________________________________________________________ Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 654 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 Los Gatos, CA 95030-4360 From missing at biggerhammer.org Wed Dec 8 17:36:05 2004 From: missing at biggerhammer.org (missing@biggerhammer.org) Date: Wed Dec 8 17:36:08 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] can't install on second computer Message-ID: I'm trying to install Missingsync on a second computer? The code from the Mark Space website doesn't work. When I enter the Code Provided during registration (1344252924), I get the message, "Registration Code is invalid. Please verify and re-enter the registration code. Contact sales@markspace.com if you believe there has been an error." I get this whether I copy and paste or type the number in directly, I get this message, If I enter the 314-80177-60223 Registration number from Dataviz it tells me, "Registration code is already is use The registration code you have entered has already been registered on the number of Macs authorized by the registration code. Please go to http://store.markspace.com to purchase additional licenses. Contact sales@markspace.com if you believe there has been an error." I have MS installed on my G4 iMac desktop and have been trying to install it on my PowerBook G4 12" 867mhz. Both systems are 10.3.6. I have emailed Mark Space several times and this issue has not been resolved. I haven't received a response from the last 2 emails I sent on 11/11 and 11/15. Anyone have any advice? I can provide screen shots. Thanks From mmurray at maths.adelaide.edu.au Thu Dec 9 12:22:37 2004 From: mmurray at maths.adelaide.edu.au (Michael Murray) Date: Wed Dec 8 17:52:44 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] can't install on second computer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I think they want you to buy another license. Companies are quite variable in how they regard installing on both a desktop and a laptop. Some seem to regard one license as sufficient for both and some don't. Looks to me like MarkSpace don't. Personally I have always found syncing two machines leads to trouble I just sync my laptop -- saves money too :-) Michael >I'm trying to install Missingsync on a second computer? The code >from the Mark Space website doesn't work. > >When I enter the Code Provided during registration (1344252924), I >get the message, "Registration Code is invalid. Please verify and >re-enter the registration code. Contact sales@markspace.com if you >believe there has been an error." > >I get this whether I copy and paste or type the number in directly, >I get this message, > >If I enter the 314-80177-60223 Registration number from Dataviz it tells me, > >"Registration code is already is use > >The registration code you have entered has already been registered >on the number of Macs authorized by the registration code. Please go >to http://store.markspace.com to purchase additional licenses. >Contact sales@markspace.com if you believe there has been an error." > >I have MS installed on my G4 iMac desktop and have been trying to >install it on my PowerBook G4 12" 867mhz. Both systems are 10.3.6. > >I have emailed Mark Space several times and this issue has not been >resolved. I haven't received a response from the last 2 emails I >sent on 11/11 and 11/15. > >Anyone have any advice? > >I can provide screen shots. > >Thanks > >_______________________________________________ >missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list >missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com >Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can >be found at: >http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk -- .......................................................... 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From brian_hall at markspace.com Wed Dec 8 18:21:40 2004 From: brian_hall at markspace.com (Brian Hall) Date: Wed Dec 8 18:21:53 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] can't install on second computer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 12:22 PM +1030 12/9/04, Michael Murray wrote: >I think they want you to buy another license. Companies are quite >variable in how they regard installing on both a desktop and a >laptop. Some seem to regard one license as sufficient for both and >some don't. Looks to me like MarkSpace don't. Our license is such that you may install on up to two machines that you personally use, which is enforced. This is specifically to allow for common setups as you mention (laptop + desktop or home + work machine). Similar to iTunes, if you want to move from one machine to another, you can "deauthorize" the old machine, which then frees back up one of the two slots. Use this if you sell a machine and get a new one, or otherwise move from one machine to another. Brian -- _____________________________________________________________________ Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 654 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 Los Gatos, CA 95030-4360 From gumby3 at henkel-wallace.org Wed Dec 8 16:33:05 2004 From: gumby3 at henkel-wallace.org (DV Henkel-Wallace) Date: Wed Dec 8 18:47:33 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] iSync can't find my treo? Message-ID: I have just installed Missing Sync 4.0.2 and the iSync conduit. I can't sync Address Book nor Calendar. When I try to sync the markspace conduits seem to run fine (backup seems to happen and the memos are downloaded). The iSync Conduit appears in the Missing Sync window, and I was able to click on it and enable synching. The treo appears in the iSync window and I can adjust its settings. But when I sync, the iSync conduit generates the following log message: 12/08/2004 16:03 iSync Conduit starting ?12/08/2004 16:03 User FEP not configured for any iSync data classes ?OK iSync Conduit ? What's the deal? Right now I have all the data in my laptop, so a solution that involved resetting the treo and overwriting everything in it is acceptable. Thanks, d From lukebosman at gmail.com Thu Dec 9 14:49:24 2004 From: lukebosman at gmail.com (Luke Bosman) Date: Thu Dec 9 06:49:27 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] can't install on second computer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, 8 Dec 2004 17:36:05 -0800, missing@biggerhammer.org wrote: > I'm trying to install Missingsync on a second computer? The code from > the Mark Space website doesn't work. > > When I enter the Code Provided during registration (134******), I get > the message, "Registration Code is invalid. Please verify and re-enter > the registration code. Contact sales@markspace.com if you believe there > has been an error." Have you by any chance posted that registration code elsewhere? It is sadly possible that someone else has made use of it already. Luke From brashier at cvm.msstate.edu Thu Dec 9 11:18:54 2004 From: brashier at cvm.msstate.edu (Michael Brashier) Date: Thu Dec 9 09:24:57 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: missing-sync-palmos-talk Digest, Vol 19, Issue 9 In-Reply-To: <200412090226.iB92QcEM024197@penguin.markspace.com> References: <200412090226.iB92QcEM024197@penguin.markspace.com> Message-ID: missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com on Wednesday, December 8, 2004 at 8:26 PM +0000 wrote: >On Dec 8, 2004, at 12:17 PM, Michael Brashier wrote: > >> I have not seen any further discussion about the bouncing MS alias in >> the >> dock. I click it and it bounces but does not open. I replaced the >> alias >> in the dock. Same thing. I click it several times and it finally >> opens. >> When I go to applications and click the MS icon, same thing. > >Is there anything in the Console Log (Open up the Console application >and look at the last few lines)? I opened the console log and this was all there was. I don't know what the console log keeps track of, or what any of this means, but this is what was there. Does it give you any clues? Mac OS X Version 10.3.6 (Build 7R28) 2004-12-09 10:57:26 -0600 2004-12-09 10:57:31.218 MagicMenuHotKeyDaemon[338] Started Michael Brashier, DVM, Dip. ACVIM Ph#: 662-325-1448 P.O. Box 6100 Fax: 662-325-4011 Mississippi State, MS 39762 email: brashier@cvm.msstate.edu From sgruby at markspace.com Thu Dec 9 10:24:10 2004 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Thu Dec 9 10:24:34 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: missing-sync-palmos-talk Digest, Vol 19, Issue 9 In-Reply-To: References: <200412090226.iB92QcEM024197@penguin.markspace.com> Message-ID: <852F00B9-4A0F-11D9-BC66-000D932F4F94@markspace.com> On Dec 9, 2004, at 9:18 AM, Michael Brashier wrote: > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com on Wednesday, December 8, > 2004 at 8:26 PM +0000 wrote: >> On Dec 8, 2004, at 12:17 PM, Michael Brashier wrote: >> >>> I have not seen any further discussion about the bouncing MS alias in >>> the >>> dock. I click it and it bounces but does not open. I replaced the >>> alias >>> in the dock. Same thing. I click it several times and it finally >>> opens. >>> When I go to applications and click the MS icon, same thing. >> >> Is there anything in the Console Log (Open up the Console application >> and look at the last few lines)? > I opened the console log and this was all there was. I don't know what > the console log keeps track of, or what any of this means, but this is > what was there. Does it give you any clues? > > Mac OS X Version 10.3.6 (Build 7R28) > 2004-12-09 10:57:26 -0600 > 2004-12-09 10:57:31.218 MagicMenuHotKeyDaemon[338] Started > Unfortunately this doesn't give a reason why it failed. If a program fails to launch, usually something appears in the log. If you haven't already contacted support, please do so as they can work with you to find out what is the problem. -- Scott Gruby Lead Engineer, Missing Sync for Palm OS Mark/Space, Inc. Please contact support@markspace.com for assistance with Mark/Space products. From gary at frontierflying.com Thu Dec 9 09:52:39 2004 From: gary at frontierflying.com (Gary Pedretty) Date: Thu Dec 9 10:52:52 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] RE: Chronos Group Organizer and Missing Sync Message-ID: <8031B404-4A13-11D9-B2AA-000393B2B596@frontierflying.com> > I finally got a response from Chronos support. The word is that > modifying the Organizer conduit for Missing Sync is "too complicated", > and they're not going to do it. > > They are, however, at work on a major update, and the support person > implied (without actually saying) that this new update might be able to > work with Missing Sync. > > While this isn't good news, at least it's news and there's hope that > something will change. For now I am just staying with Missing Sync 4.0.1 as it works fine with Personal Organizer and Group Organizer and 4.0.2 doesn't really fix anything I was having problems with. Gary ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Gary Pedretty gary@frontierflying.com Systems Manager www.frontierflying.com Frontier Flying Service, Inc. /\ 907-450-7251 5245 Airport Industrial Road / \/\ 907-450-7238 fax Fairbanks, Alaska 99709 /\ / \ \ Second greatest commandment Serving Alaska's Interior / \/ /\ \ \/\ "Love your neighbor as Temperature around +10 and snowy skies yourself" Matt 22:39 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From sgruby at markspace.com Thu Dec 9 11:04:03 2004 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Thu Dec 9 11:04:28 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] MS and Plucker In-Reply-To: <206F3AF2-495B-11D9-99B7-000A9577757C@johngruber.us> References: <206F3AF2-495B-11D9-99B7-000A9577757C@johngruber.us> Message-ID: <17A07D08-4A15-11D9-BC66-000D932F4F94@markspace.com> On Dec 8, 2004, at 12:52 PM, John M. Gruber wrote: > Have had MS for a while and want to use Plucker. The setup wizard > doesn't see my handheld. What is the trick? Thanks. > The setup wizard has 2 parts; the first lets you add a handheld, the second lets you add a directory. Ignore the first half and in the second half, click "Add output directory...". Navigate to /Users/username/Documents/Palm/Users/handheldname/Files To Install/ and then click choose. While it would be more convenient to just add the handheld, it appears that Plucker is not using the User Manager to get the list of handhelds; applications that use the User Manager work with both HotSync Manager and Missing Sync. -- Scott Gruby Lead Engineer, Missing Sync for Palm OS Mark/Space, Inc. Please contact support@markspace.com for assistance with Mark/Space products. From hacker at gnu-designs.com Thu Dec 9 14:37:06 2004 From: hacker at gnu-designs.com (David A. Desrosiers) Date: Thu Dec 9 11:38:06 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] MS and Plucker In-Reply-To: <17A07D08-4A15-11D9-BC66-000D932F4F94@markspace.com> References: <206F3AF2-495B-11D9-99B7-000A9577757C@johngruber.us> <17A07D08-4A15-11D9-BC66-000D932F4F94@markspace.com> Message-ID: > While it would be more convenient to just add the handheld, it > appears that Plucker is not using the User Manager to get the list > of handhelds; applications that use the User Manager work with both > HotSync Manager and Missing Sync. Is this using the Plucker python distiller? Or the third-party "jPlucker" tool that someone wrote around it? If the latter, I guess we'll have to get in contact with that author and see if he can do some fixups before our next major release. David A. Desrosiers desrod@gnu-designs.com http://gnu-designs.com From sgruby at markspace.com Thu Dec 9 11:53:18 2004 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Thu Dec 9 11:53:51 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] MS and Plucker In-Reply-To: References: <206F3AF2-495B-11D9-99B7-000A9577757C@johngruber.us> <17A07D08-4A15-11D9-BC66-000D932F4F94@markspace.com> Message-ID: On Dec 9, 2004, at 11:37 AM, David A. Desrosiers wrote: > >> While it would be more convenient to just add the handheld, it >> appears that Plucker is not using the User Manager to get the list >> of handhelds; applications that use the User Manager work with both >> HotSync Manager and Missing Sync. > > Is this using the Plucker python distiller? Or the third-party > "jPlucker" tool that someone wrote around it? > > If the latter, I guess we'll have to get in contact with that > author and see if he can do some fixups before our next major release. > > > I believe it is the python distiller, listed as "Plucker Desktop for Apple OSX 1.6.0.1" on the download page. -- Scott Gruby Lead Engineer, Missing Sync for Palm OS Mark/Space, Inc. Please contact support@markspace.com for assistance with Mark/Space products. From hasan.diwan at gmail.com Thu Dec 9 12:00:38 2004 From: hasan.diwan at gmail.com (Hasan Diwan) Date: Thu Dec 9 12:00:42 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] iQue 3600 In-Reply-To: <7D73A5A6-495D-11D9-8302-000D932C932A@mac.com> References: <200412082002.iB8K2AEO013282@penguin.markspace.com> <7D73A5A6-495D-11D9-8302-000D932C932A@mac.com> Message-ID: <2cda2fc90412091200e45e63f@mail.gmail.com> What would it take to have Garmin's iQue 3600 maps working on OS X? This is tangentially related as I have to use Missing Sync to synchronise the Macintosh with the iQue. I notice that there's the option of mounting the SD card as a drive, the maps within all appear to be "IMG" files. There is a program called Mac GPS Pro, which claims to work with Garmin units using Serial cables, but this uses USB. Any suggestions? Thanks! -- Cheers, Hasan Diwan From lists at mostrom.pp.se Thu Dec 9 21:03:07 2004 From: lists at mostrom.pp.se (Jan Erik =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mostr=F6m?=) Date: Thu Dec 9 12:03:16 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] RE: Chronos Group Organizer and Missing Sync In-Reply-To: <8031B404-4A13-11D9-B2AA-000393B2B596@frontierflying.com> Message-ID: On 2004-12-09 19:52, Gary Pedretty wrote: > or now I am just staying with Missing Sync 4.0.1 as it works fine with > Personal Organizer and Group Organizer Are you saying that Group Organizer works with 4.0.1? This is the first report I've seen of that (it didn't work for me). jem -- Jan Erik Mostr?m www.mostrom.pp.se From missing at biggerhammer.org Thu Dec 9 12:15:11 2004 From: missing at biggerhammer.org (missing@biggerhammer.org) Date: Thu Dec 9 12:15:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re:can't install (register) on second computer In-Reply-To: <200412092006.iB9K5wEN015436@penguin.markspace.com> References: <200412092006.iB9K5wEN015436@penguin.markspace.com> Message-ID: <075C5CE7-4A1F-11D9-B663-000D933AA864@biggerhammer.org> Only if you count "MS Support" emails. I guess that wasn't the best move posting the code yesterday (although its not doing me much good at the time). But I've been trying to get it working on my PowerBook for about a month and am very frustrated. Any help directly from MS would be a refreshing change. Thanks > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2004 14:49:24 +0000 > From: Luke Bosman > Subject: Re: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] can't install on second > computer > To: "The Missing Sync (Mac/Palm OS) Discussion List" > > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > On Wed, 8 Dec 2004 17:36:05 -0800, missing@biggerhammer.org > wrote: >> I'm trying to install Missingsync on a second computer? The code from >> the Mark Space website doesn't work. >> >> When I enter the Code Provided during registration (134******), I get >> the message, "Registration Code is invalid. Please verify and re-enter >> the registration code. Contact sales@markspace.com if you believe >> there >> has been an error." > > Have you by any chance posted that registration code elsewhere? It is > sadly possible that someone else has made use of it already. > > Luke From dbutenhof at mac.com Thu Dec 9 15:35:34 2004 From: dbutenhof at mac.com (Dave Butenhof) Date: Thu Dec 9 12:35:40 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] RE: Chronos Group Organizer and Missing Sync In-Reply-To: <200412092005.iB9K5pEO015425@penguin.markspace.com> References: <200412092005.iB9K5pEO015425@penguin.markspace.com> Message-ID: > For now I am just staying with Missing Sync 4.0.1 as it works fine > with Personal Organizer and Group Organizer and 4.0.2 doesn't really > fix anything I was having problems with. This is an intriguing statement. While PERSONAL Organizer was on the list of conduits that worked at one point (and no longer is), GROUP Organizer has not worked either for me or for many others on ANY version of Missing Sync 4.x.x, since initial release. Nor did the Mark/Space or Chronos support folk ever say "hey, it works for us". Instead, Mark/Space reported that they'd identified a problem with the conduit, and Chronos has finally said they recognize the problem but don't intend to fix it. I do see that Personal Organizer is now also on the list of conduits that don't work, and perhaps this changed with 4.0.2 as you suggest; but, once again, to my knowledge (and certainly in my experience) Group Organizer has never worked. SO... are you really claiming that both PERSONAL and GROUP Organizer hotsync works for you with Missing Sync 4.0.1... or only PERSONAL Organizer? From brian_hall at markspace.com Thu Dec 9 12:41:24 2004 From: brian_hall at markspace.com (Brian Hall) Date: Thu Dec 9 12:41:30 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] iQue 3600 In-Reply-To: <2cda2fc90412091200e45e63f@mail.gmail.com> References: <200412082002.iB8K2AEO013282@penguin.markspace.com> <7D73A5A6-495D-11D9-8302-000D932C932A@mac.com> <2cda2fc90412091200e45e63f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: >What would it take to have Garmin's iQue 3600 maps working on OS X? For Garmin to provide Mac OS software to decrypt/build the maps, or provide the info needed for a 3rd party to do same. In the meantime, if you can create the maps ahead of time on a PC, and then move them to a Mac (save to CD, SD card, etc) you can *load* them using a Mac. Brian -- _____________________________________________________________________ Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 654 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 Los Gatos, CA 95030-4360 From atmasphere at atmasphere.net Thu Dec 9 16:41:54 2004 From: atmasphere at atmasphere.net (Jonathan Greene) Date: Thu Dec 9 15:14:00 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] iQue 3600 In-Reply-To: <2cda2fc90412091200e45e63f@mail.gmail.com> References: <200412082002.iB8K2AEO013282@penguin.markspace.com> <7D73A5A6-495D-11D9-8302-000D932C932A@mac.com> <2cda2fc90412091200e45e63f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <24D79900-4A2B-11D9-B573-000A95C47866@atmasphere.net> what happens when you just try to open the files? On Dec 9, 2004, at 3:00 PM, Hasan Diwan wrote: > What would it take to have Garmin's iQue 3600 maps working on OS X? > This is tangentially related as I have to use Missing Sync to > synchronise the Macintosh with the iQue. I notice that there's the > option of mounting the SD card as a drive, the maps within all appear > to be "IMG" files. There is a program called Mac GPS Pro, which claims > to work with Garmin units using Serial cables, but this uses USB. Any > suggestions? Thanks! > -- > Cheers, > Hasan Diwan > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > From hasan.diwan at gmail.com Thu Dec 9 15:31:16 2004 From: hasan.diwan at gmail.com (Hasan Diwan) Date: Thu Dec 9 15:31:19 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] iQue 3600 In-Reply-To: <24D79900-4A2B-11D9-B573-000A95C47866@atmasphere.net> References: <200412082002.iB8K2AEO013282@penguin.markspace.com> <7D73A5A6-495D-11D9-8302-000D932C932A@mac.com> <2cda2fc90412091200e45e63f@mail.gmail.com> <24D79900-4A2B-11D9-B573-000A95C47866@atmasphere.net> Message-ID: <2cda2fc9041209153166828d0e@mail.gmail.com> The files are generated on-the-fly, they aren't on the CD. So there are no files to open. On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 16:41:54 -0500, Jonathan Greene wrote: > what happens when you just try to open the files? -- Cheers, Hasan Diwan From atmasphere at atmasphere.net Thu Dec 9 20:18:24 2004 From: atmasphere at atmasphere.net (Jonathan Greene) Date: Thu Dec 9 17:18:27 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] iQue 3600 In-Reply-To: <2cda2fc9041209153166828d0e@mail.gmail.com> References: <200412082002.iB8K2AEO013282@penguin.markspace.com> <7D73A5A6-495D-11D9-8302-000D932C932A@mac.com> <2cda2fc90412091200e45e63f@mail.gmail.com> <24D79900-4A2B-11D9-B573-000A95C47866@atmasphere.net> <2cda2fc9041209153166828d0e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <632665CE-4A49-11D9-A7AE-000A95C47866@atmasphere.net> sorry - though you said they were on your SD, not CD On Dec 9, 2004, at 6:31 PM, Hasan Diwan wrote: > The files are generated on-the-fly, they aren't on the CD. So there > are no files to open. > > > On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 16:41:54 -0500, Jonathan Greene > wrote: >> what happens when you just try to open the files? > -- > Cheers, > Hasan Diwan > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > From sgruby at markspace.com Fri Dec 10 14:40:47 2004 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Fri Dec 10 14:41:13 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Entourage Error In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <88D3F12E-4AFC-11D9-BC66-000D932F4F94@markspace.com> On Nov 29, 2004, at 2:21 PM, Don Wolff wrote: > Yea, they are all set to sync both ways. > Regards, > > I'm not sure if you've solved your problem by now, but it was just brought to my attention that you have to turn off Office Notifications before configuring the conduit. More information can be found at: This might help. -- Scott Gruby Lead Engineer, Missing Sync for Palm OS Mark/Space, Inc. Please contact support@markspace.com for assistance with Mark/Space products. From don.wolff at phoenix.k12.or.us Fri Dec 10 15:18:25 2004 From: don.wolff at phoenix.k12.or.us (Don Wolff) Date: Fri Dec 10 15:18:40 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Entourage Error In-Reply-To: <88D3F12E-4AFC-11D9-BC66-000D932F4F94@markspace.com> Message-ID: No I haven't found the solution yet... I will give this a shot. Thanks! Regards, -Don If you don't understand what it is that I do, then kindly get out of my way while I do it... =================================== Don Wolff- Technology Coordinator Phoenix-Talent School District #4 mailto:don.wolff@phoenix.k12.or.us Office- 541-535-0200 Mobile- 541-621-4717 FAX- 541-512-0179 > From: Scott Gruby > Reply-To: "The Missing Sync (Mac/Palm OS) Discussion List" > > Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 14:40:47 -0800 > To: "The Missing Sync (Mac/Palm OS) Discussion List" > > Subject: Re: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Entourage Error > > I'm not sure if you've solved your problem by now, but it was just > brought to my attention that you have to turn off Office Notifications > before configuring the conduit. More information can be found at: > This might help. From harryo43 at yahoo.com Mon Dec 13 09:25:00 2004 From: harryo43 at yahoo.com (Harry Flaxman) Date: Mon Dec 13 09:25:07 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Entourage Syncing with TJ-35 Message-ID: <20041213172501.49246.qmail@web53806.mail.yahoo.com> I am having a problem with the Entourage conduit syncing properly with my Sony Clie. The conduit puts the mail headers in the calendar of the Sony and the bodies are nowhere to be found. Has anyone experienced this? Harry ===== ____________________ Harry Flaxman Dual G5's Rule! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - now with 250MB free storage. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 From gary at frontierflying.com Mon Dec 13 17:10:25 2004 From: gary at frontierflying.com (Gary Pedretty) Date: Mon Dec 13 18:10:32 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: Chronos Group Organizer and Missing Sync In-Reply-To: <200412102001.iBAK1fEO012778@penguin.markspace.com> References: <200412102001.iBAK1fEO012778@penguin.markspace.com> Message-ID: <5133F0B0-4D75-11D9-B2AA-000393B2B596@frontierflying.com> I haven't actually tried that combination, but since Personal worked, I assumed Group did as well. Sorry On Dec 10, 2004, at 11:01 AM, missing-sync-palmos-talk-request@lists.markspace.com wrote: > > Are you saying that Group Organizer works with 4.0.1? > > This is the first report I've seen of that (it didn't work for me). > > jem > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Gary Pedretty gary@frontierflying.com Systems Manager www.frontierflying.com Frontier Flying Service, Inc. /\ 907-450-7251 5245 Airport Industrial Road / \/\ 907-450-7238 fax Fairbanks, Alaska 99709 /\ / \ \ Second greatest commandment Serving Alaska's Interior / \/ /\ \ \/\ "Love your neighbor as Temperature around +10 and snowy skies yourself" Matt 22:39 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From tloomis at silverado.cc Mon Dec 13 20:17:31 2004 From: tloomis at silverado.cc (Torrey Loomis) Date: Mon Dec 13 20:17:35 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Sony CLIE T665C and Now Up-To-Date and Contact Message-ID: <128A7B7B-4D87-11D9-8B72-000D932A891E@silverado.cc> Hello! I have been having a very difficult time trying to iron out the following situation. My client has a Power Mac G4 Cube. He uses Now Up-To-Date and Contact to maintain his contacts and calendar. He also has a CLIE T665C and wants to sync his Now information to the CLIE. Easy enough, right? When we try to sych, we get the following message: Installed Missing Sync OK Install *Created backup file* Failed Now Contact (0x4015) Synchronizing with a new calendar file. * Created backup file * *** Unexpected error 16405. Failed Now Up-to-Date (0x4015) OK Install Failed Backup (0x4015) Sync completed successfully at 12/13/04 4:05 PM (16:05:31) The CLIE always hangs up and then times out resulting in an error. I have tried both the HotSync Manager from Palm as well as the Missing Sync for Palm OS--with no success. Where is this breaking down? Is there something wrong with the Now data files? Is there something wrong with the Now conduits? Will the CLIE not accept the sync'd Now files? Am I missing a conduit? One thing: the client has multiple categories for both his calendar and contacts. The Now conduit should handle this fine, right? Any help that you can provide would be greatly appreciated. Torrey Loomis President - Silverado Systems Apple Pro Video VAR 1108 Sandwick Way Folsom, CA 95630 (916) 806-7189 tloomis@silverado.cc http://www.Silverado.cc From ben8200heinz at hotmail.com Tue Dec 14 07:24:21 2004 From: ben8200heinz at hotmail.com (Benjamin Heinz) Date: Mon Dec 13 22:25:07 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Sony CLIE T665C and Now Up-To-Date and Contact In-Reply-To: <128A7B7B-4D87-11D9-8B72-000D932A891E@silverado.cc> References: <128A7B7B-4D87-11D9-8B72-000D932A891E@silverado.cc> Message-ID: Hi Torrey Did he check the data on the CLIE with dbscan? (can be found at http://www.handango.com/international/PlatformProductDetail.jsp? searchSite=0&productType=2&optionId=1_1_2&jid=9A6X58E5CA8B5C435FA83E1D8F 9942F2&platformId=1&siteId=1039&productId=3081§ionId=0&catalog=1&txt Search=dbscan). Ben Am 14.12.2004 um 05:17 schrieb Torrey Loomis: > Hello! > > I have been having a very difficult time trying to iron out the > following situation. > > My client has a Power Mac G4 Cube. He uses Now Up-To-Date and Contact > to maintain his contacts and calendar. > > He also has a CLIE T665C and wants to sync his Now information to the > CLIE. Easy enough, right? > > When we try to sych, we get the following message: > > Installed Missing Sync > OK Install > *Created backup file* > Failed Now Contact (0x4015) > Synchronizing with a new calendar file. > * Created backup file * > *** Unexpected error 16405. > Failed Now Up-to-Date (0x4015) > OK Install > Failed Backup (0x4015) > Sync completed successfully at 12/13/04 4:05 PM (16:05:31) > > The CLIE always hangs up and then times out resulting in an error. > > I have tried both the HotSync Manager from Palm as well as the Missing > Sync for Palm OS--with no success. > > Where is this breaking down? Is there something wrong with the Now > data files? Is there something wrong with the Now conduits? Will the > CLIE not accept the sync'd Now files? Am I missing a conduit? > > One thing: the client has multiple categories for both his calendar > and contacts. The Now conduit should handle this fine, right? > > Any help that you can provide would be greatly appreciated. > > Torrey Loomis > President - Silverado Systems > Apple Pro Video VAR > 1108 Sandwick Way > Folsom, CA 95630 > (916) 806-7189 > tloomis@silverado.cc > http://www.Silverado.cc > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can > be found at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk > From kfreeman at markspace.com Tue Dec 14 09:25:24 2004 From: kfreeman at markspace.com (Ken Freeman) Date: Tue Dec 14 09:25:36 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Sony CLIE T665C and Now Up-To-Date and Contact In-Reply-To: <128A7B7B-4D87-11D9-8B72-000D932A891E@silverado.cc> Message-ID: If the sync is failing with both the PalmSource HotSync Manager and The Missing Sync it would suggest either conduit is bad, the conduit settings are bad, or the handheld data is bad. I would check the conduit settings first. Make sure you have the correct data files selected in the Now conduits. Ken On 12/13/04 8:17 PM, "Torrey Loomis" wrote: > Hello! > > I have been having a very difficult time trying to iron out the > following situation. > > My client has a Power Mac G4 Cube. He uses Now Up-To-Date and Contact > to maintain his contacts and calendar. > > He also has a CLIE T665C and wants to sync his Now information to the > CLIE. Easy enough, right? > > When we try to sych, we get the following message: > > Installed Missing Sync > OK Install > *Created backup file* > Failed Now Contact (0x4015) > Synchronizing with a new calendar file. > * Created backup file * > *** Unexpected error 16405. > Failed Now Up-to-Date (0x4015) > OK Install > Failed Backup (0x4015) > Sync completed successfully at 12/13/04 4:05 PM (16:05:31) > > The CLIE always hangs up and then times out resulting in an error. > > I have tried both the HotSync Manager from Palm as well as the Missing > Sync for Palm OS--with no success. > > Where is this breaking down? Is there something wrong with the Now data > files? Is there something wrong with the Now conduits? Will the CLIE > not accept the sync'd Now files? Am I missing a conduit? > > One thing: the client has multiple categories for both his calendar and > contacts. The Now conduit should handle this fine, right? > > Any help that you can provide would be greatly appreciated. > > Torrey Loomis > President - Silverado Systems > Apple Pro Video VAR > 1108 Sandwick Way > Folsom, CA 95630 > (916) 806-7189 > tloomis@silverado.cc > http://www.Silverado.cc > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk From tloomis at silverado.cc Tue Dec 14 09:40:32 2004 From: tloomis at silverado.cc (Torrey Loomis) Date: Tue Dec 14 09:40:36 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Sony CLIE T665C and Now Up-To-Date and Contact In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <40BC5712-4DF7-11D9-A06C-000D932A891E@silverado.cc> On Dec 14, 2004, at 9:25 AM, Ken Freeman wrote: > If the sync is failing with both the PalmSource HotSync Manager and The > Missing Sync it would suggest either conduit is bad, the conduit > settings > are bad, or the handheld data is bad. > > I would check the conduit settings first. Make sure you have the > correct > data files selected in the Now conduits. > > Ken Ken, Thanks for writing back. The conduits are the standard Now conduits supplied with Up-to-Date and Contact. The handheld data isn't bad because 80% of the data doesn't even make it over to the CLIE. The data that DOES make it over is fine. My client has data stored in a whole bunch of categories. Is there a limit to how many categories of data can be stored on a CLIE? Would upgrading to a Palm that uses OS 5 or 6 work better? Torrey Loomis President - Silverado Systems Apple Pro Video VAR 1108 Sandwick Way Folsom, CA 95630 (916) 806-7189 tloomis@silverado.cc http://www.Silverado.cc From tloomis at silverado.cc Tue Dec 14 09:41:19 2004 From: tloomis at silverado.cc (Torrey Loomis) Date: Tue Dec 14 09:41:20 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Sony CLIE T665C and Now Up-To-Date and Contact In-Reply-To: References: <128A7B7B-4D87-11D9-8B72-000D932A891E@silverado.cc> Message-ID: <5CBB1A44-4DF7-11D9-A06C-000D932A891E@silverado.cc> On Dec 13, 2004, at 10:24 PM, Benjamin Heinz wrote: > Hi Torrey > > Did he check the data on the CLIE with dbscan? (can be found at > http://www.handango.com/international/PlatformProductDetail.jsp? > searchSite=0&productType=2&optionId=1_1_2&jid=9A6X58E5CA8B5C435FA83E1D8 > F9942F2&platformId=1&siteId=1039&productId=3081§ionId=0&catalog=1&t > xtSearch=dbscan). > > Ben Ben, Thanks for writing back. 80% of the data doesn't even make it to the CLIE because the sync fails. Torrey Loomis President - Silverado Systems Apple Pro Video VAR 1108 Sandwick Way Folsom, CA 95630 (916) 806-7189 tloomis@silverado.cc http://www.Silverado.cc From eullman at markspace.com Tue Dec 14 09:56:54 2004 From: eullman at markspace.com (Eric Ullman) Date: Tue Dec 14 09:56:57 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Entourage Syncing with TJ-35 In-Reply-To: <20041213172501.49246.qmail@web53806.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hello Harry, > I am having a problem with the Entourage conduit > syncing properly with my Sony Clie. The conduit puts > the mail headers in the calendar of the Sony and the > bodies are nowhere to be found. > > Has anyone experienced this? The Microsoft Entourage conduit does not sync email, but there are some third-party conduits that do. Can you tell us which one you're using? Thanks. Eric Ullman Mark/Space, Inc. From kfreeman at markspace.com Tue Dec 14 11:13:21 2004 From: kfreeman at markspace.com (Ken Freeman) Date: Tue Dec 14 11:13:28 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Sony CLIE T665C and Now Up-To-Date and Contact In-Reply-To: <40BC5712-4DF7-11D9-A06C-000D932A891E@silverado.cc> Message-ID: There is a limit of 15 categories in the Palm OS standard PIM apps (Address Book, Date Book, To Do, Memos). There are other handheld PIM apps that have more categories and I think that the Now conduits allow you to sync to other handhelds. Check with Now Software to make sure. Ken On 12/14/04 9:40 AM, "Torrey Loomis" wrote: > > On Dec 14, 2004, at 9:25 AM, Ken Freeman wrote: > >> If the sync is failing with both the PalmSource HotSync Manager and The >> Missing Sync it would suggest either conduit is bad, the conduit >> settings >> are bad, or the handheld data is bad. >> >> I would check the conduit settings first. Make sure you have the >> correct >> data files selected in the Now conduits. >> >> Ken > > Ken, > > Thanks for writing back. > > The conduits are the standard Now conduits supplied with Up-to-Date and > Contact. > > The handheld data isn't bad because 80% of the data doesn't even make > it over to the CLIE. The data that DOES make it over is fine. > > My client has data stored in a whole bunch of categories. Is there a > limit to how many categories of data can be stored on a CLIE? > > Would upgrading to a Palm that uses OS 5 or 6 work better? > > Torrey Loomis > President - Silverado Systems > Apple Pro Video VAR > 1108 Sandwick Way > Folsom, CA 95630 > (916) 806-7189 > tloomis@silverado.cc > http://www.Silverado.cc > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk From tloomis at silverado.cc Tue Dec 14 11:17:24 2004 From: tloomis at silverado.cc (Torrey Loomis) Date: Tue Dec 14 11:17:27 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Sony CLIE T665C and Now Up-To-Date and Contact In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Dec 14, 2004, at 11:13 AM, Ken Freeman wrote: > There is a limit of 15 categories in the Palm OS standard PIM apps > (Address > Book, Date Book, To Do, Memos). There are other handheld PIM apps that > have > more categories and I think that the Now conduits allow you to sync to > other > handhelds. Check with Now Software to make sure. > > Ken Ken, Thanks for writing back. So, the limit is 15 total? Or 15 categories per app? Torrey Loomis President - Silverado Systems Apple Pro Video VAR 1108 Sandwick Way Folsom, CA 95630 (916) 806-7189 tloomis@silverado.cc http://www.Silverado.cc From kfreeman at markspace.com Tue Dec 14 11:48:00 2004 From: kfreeman at markspace.com (Ken Freeman) Date: Tue Dec 14 11:49:36 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Sony CLIE T665C and Now Up-To-Date Message-ID: <6465683.3185869680[10.216.63.187]@markspace.com> 15 Per app. Date Book does not have categories. Ken Torrey Loomis wrote on 12/14/04 11:17 am: > > On Dec 14, 2004, at 11:13 AM, Ken Freeman wrote: > > > There is a limit of 15 categories in the Palm OS standard PIM apps > > (Address > > Book, Date Book, To Do, Memos). There are other handheld PIM apps that > > have > > more categories and I think that the Now conduits allow you to sync to > > other > > handhelds. Check with Now Software to make sure. > > > > Ken > > Ken, > > Thanks for writing back. > > So, the limit is 15 total? Or 15 categories per app? > > Torrey Loomis > President - Silverado Systems > Apple Pro Video VAR > 1108 Sandwick Way > Folsom, CA 95630 > (916) 806-7189 > tloomis@silverado.cc > http://www.Silverado.cc > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-palmos-talk mailing list > missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com > Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can be found > at: > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-talk -- ** Email sent from a Treo 600 using Mark/Space Mail for Palm OS. Download demo version at www.markspace.com. ** From lists at mostrom.pp.se Tue Dec 14 21:33:25 2004 From: lists at mostrom.pp.se (Jan Erik =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mostr=F6m?=) Date: Tue Dec 14 12:33:32 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Sony CLIE T665C and Now Up-To-Date In-Reply-To: <6465683.3185869680[10.216.63.187]@markspace.com> Message-ID: On 2004-12-14 20:48, Ken Freeman wrote: > 15 Per app. Date Book does not have categories. DateBook sure has categories, they have the same info for each record in the database as any Palm PDB file. However, Palm didn't use this until v 5 (I think it was) of the OS. For example I have always been able to use categories when I've used DateBk 3,4,5 and now it's possible in the built-in Calender app on my T3. The Mac Palm Desktop (old Claris Organizer) has always supported categories (as far as I remember). jem -- Jan Erik Mostr?m www.mostrom.pp.se From brad at bradbishop.com Tue Dec 14 12:48:48 2004 From: brad at bradbishop.com (Brad Bishop) Date: Tue Dec 14 12:49:47 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Now Contact syncing with Clie or Treo 650 In-Reply-To: <200412142002.iBEK1vEO005464@penguin.markspace.com> Message-ID: I'm getting the same error messages when trying to sync my G4 iMac with my Treo 650. It worked just fine on my Treo 600, but now it doesn't work. I worked with Now Software for some time trying to solve the problem and we have not. I suspect it has something to do with the fact that my contact database is rather large (6200+ contacts). It doesn't appear to be a memory issue as the Treo has plenty of space leftover. The odd thing is after the failed sync, all of the contacts actually make it to the Treo. The problem is the sync doesn't complete properly and re-syncing causes duplicate contacts. Now Software seems to think it has something to do with their conduit's interaction with the new Treo but if you're having the problem on a Clie, maybe that's not it. I also know it's probably not the data itself as I exported and re-imported everything twice. I don't use categories in the Contact database, so I assume that's not part of the problem either. How many contacts does your client have in Now? Brad > From: > Reply-To: > Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 12:02:00 -0800 > To: > Subject: missing-sync-palmos-talk Digest, Vol 19, Issue 14 > > Hello! > > I have been having a very difficult time trying to iron out the > following situation. > > My client has a Power Mac G4 Cube. He uses Now Up-To-Date and Contact > to maintain his contacts and calendar. > > He also has a CLIE T665C and wants to sync his Now information to the > CLIE. Easy enough, right? > > When we try to sych, we get the following message: > > Installed Missing Sync > OK Install > *Created backup file* > Failed Now Contact (0x4015) > Synchronizing with a new calendar file. > * Created backup file * > *** Unexpected error 16405. > Failed Now Up-to-Date (0x4015) > OK Install > Failed Backup (0x4015) > Sync completed successfully at 12/13/04 4:05 PM (16:05:31) > > The CLIE always hangs up and then times out resulting in an error. > > I have tried both the HotSync Manager from Palm as well as the Missing > Sync for Palm OS--with no success. > > Where is this breaking down? Is there something wrong with the Now data > files? Is there something wrong with the Now conduits? Will the CLIE > not accept the sync'd Now files? Am I missing a conduit? > > One thing: th