From jason at ophiochos.org.uk  Sun Aug  1 00:49:05 2004
From: jason at ophiochos.org.uk (Jason Davies)
Date: Sat Jul 31 15:45:41 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] extra software
In-Reply-To: <p06100556bd319eadd7d6@[10.0.1.7]>
Message-ID: <r02010200-1034-D3C4A8DEE34311D8B014000A95D94B22@[172.186.110.34]>

can someone clarify for me: I didn't get the MP3 player that I have been
meaning to redownload and Splashphoto with MS4. Can I still use\download
these that I got with v2?

From jason at ophiochos.org.uk  Sun Aug  1 01:02:38 2004
From: jason at ophiochos.org.uk (Jason Davies)
Date: Sat Jul 31 15:59:11 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] MacNoteTaker chokes....
In-Reply-To: <p0610055bbd31a217a4ac@[10.0.1.7]>
Message-ID: <r02010200-1034-B892556AE34511D8B014000A95D94B22@[172.186.110.34]>

>>has anyone else experienced sync failures for MacNoteTaker? The sync
>>process seems to quit reliably here. Which is a shame as it's my most
>>important conduit:-) I will preparae a proper bug report for
>>MarkSpace but wanted to see if there was any difference/similarity
>>out there.
>
>We have sent an email to the author. As the web page dates from
>2001/2002, let us hope the email address still works.


Brian did you get my follow-up? I think this also causes errors in Palm
HSM. So the chances are that this is not a bug in your software...

From jason at ophiochos.org.uk  Sun Aug  1 01:31:25 2004
From: jason at ophiochos.org.uk (Jason Davies)
Date: Sat Jul 31 16:28:02 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] error with install
In-Reply-To: <r02010200-1034-B892556AE34511D8B014000A95D94B22@[172.186.110.34]>
Message-ID: <r02010200-1034-BE42DBDCE34911D8B014000A95D94B22@[172.186.110.34]>

I keep getting error number     

- Unexpected error number 16405
    - Unexpected error number 16405
    
    
what's that? :-) and what can I do about it?

From pekka.nikander at iki.fi  Sun Aug  1 10:56:42 2004
From: pekka.nikander at iki.fi (Pekka Nikander)
Date: Sat Jul 31 23:56:46 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk]  Missing Sync will not configure Palm
	Conduit 1.2
In-Reply-To: <410C22DE.1040706@flutecake.com>
References: <410C22DE.1040706@flutecake.com>
Message-ID: <F1A445EA-E387-11D8-B8F4-000393CE1E8C@iki.fi>

Jan,

> 5) Select ?Sync this Palm OS Device? ? OK <<<< (stops here-jc)

That's in Missing Sync, and the exact phrase is
"Enable iSync for this Palm Device".

> 6) Click the icon associated with your Palm OS device <<(nada)
> 7) Configure the settings for iCal and Address Book <<(nope)

And that's in iSync.

But I guess you figured that much out.

Unfortunately there seems to be a bug in MS 4.0 that (at least
sometimes) causes the Palm to appear with a garbled name in iSync.
According to my experience, that doesn't prevent it from working,
though.  Hence, go ahead and configure the Palm looking thing
in your iSync, even though its name is garbage.  BTW, it's a good
idea to slow sync for the first time.  In that way you don't end
up with duplicate entries which you may get otherwise.

If you want to fix the name of the Palm as it appears in iSync,
you can manually fix it by editing, using a text editor, the
files PalmConduitDefaults.plist and PalmConfiguration.txt
in the directory

   /Library/Application Support/SyncService/<your-account-number>/

where <your-account-number> is the Unix internal uuid of your
account, typically 501.

In PalmConduitDefaults.plist, the name is in the string

		<key>kNSSyncDeviceName</key>
		<string>[name-here]</string>

In PalmConfiguration.txt, the name is in the beginning of
the second line:

# Apple iSync Palm Defaults file
[name-here]::...

It appears that the latter name is what iSync displays.
I don't know if you really need to change the first name,
i.e. in PalmConduitDefaults.plist, but fixing it does not
seem to hurt.

--Pekka Nikander


From pekka.nikander at iki.fi  Sun Aug  1 11:04:57 2004
From: pekka.nikander at iki.fi (Pekka Nikander)
Date: Sun Aug  1 00:04:59 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk]  MS 4.0: Problems with WLAN and USB
	syncing; BT syncing not working at all
In-Reply-To: <B0CD0994-E322-11D8-B8F4-000393CE1E8C@iki.fi>
References: <04E01CF7-E2C9-11D8-BC79-000393CE1E8C@iki.fi>
	<B0CD0994-E322-11D8-B8F4-000393CE1E8C@iki.fi>
Message-ID: <18D2E30B-E389-11D8-B8F4-000393CE1E8C@iki.fi>

One more reply to myself:

> It appears that my Clie drops the WLAN connection before the
> TCP connection has a chance to do its final handshake.  As
> a result, the TCP connection at the Mac end remains in
> ESTABLISHED state, for a long time (several minutes).

It appears that Missing Sync can stay in this state several
hours, even overnight.  My Mac slept over night, and Missing
Sync was still in this unresponsive state.  Sigh.

Fortunately turning Network syncing off and back on in
Missing Sync Preferences helps sometimes.  That causes the TCP
connection to be closed.  However, that takes some time since
TCP stays about a minute in FIN_WAIT_1 state before closing
completely.

Unfortunately that doesn't seem to make Missing Sync Monitor
always responsive....  I'm going to next log out and back
in, that should reset the Missing Sync Monitor.

--Pekka Nikander

From miscellaneous at ohdanny.net  Sun Aug  1 01:42:36 2004
From: miscellaneous at ohdanny.net (miscellaneous@ohdanny.net)
Date: Sun Aug  1 00:43:06 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] 
	MemoPad Creating Multiple Categories of the Same Name
Message-ID: <5B65BB22-E38E-11D8-B993-003065CA9518@ohdanny.net>

I am getting multiple categories of the same name being created by 
either creating a note on the Palm or using MemoPad.

In other words if I create a new memo on my Palm in, say, the "Work" 
category I will get two categories of the name "Work" on both the Palm 
and the in the Memo Pad application. The same goes if I create a new 
memo from within MemoPad.

Any ideas how this can be remedied? Thanks.


Daniel Markham

From amcutting at yahoo.co.uk  Sun Aug  1 20:26:52 2004
From: amcutting at yahoo.co.uk (Alastair Cutting)
Date: Sun Aug  1 11:26:54 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] iCal, OSX address book categories???
In-Reply-To: <p06100520bd2ee5ffdd56@[10.0.1.7]>
References: <c058b63504072910087c0ba66a@mail.gmail.com>
	<p06100520bd2ee5ffdd56@[10.0.1.7]>
Message-ID: <5BFF2652-E3E8-11D8-B680-000393ABC616@yahoo.co.uk>

On Jul 29, 2004, at 18:38, Brian Hall wrote
in reply to Jeff Chambliss:

>> So does version 4 add support for sync of categories?
> ...snip...
> We are working with the various PIM sync conduit providers to see that 
> this
> gets addressed one way or another in the future (ie, that the PIM 
> conduits
> get improved).

Please God, soon!
I must admit I had been hoping for this to be better in Missing/Sync v4.
Indeed with HotSync no longer needing Palm Desktop to support it, I 
thought we might have had it this time.

Like many on the forum, I find not being able to get multiple 
categories from iCal/AddressBook and my T3 to synchronise properly 
excruciating. I am not sure if it's a difficulty from the Apple/iSync 
end, or the PalmOne/Calendar end (I have left pleading messages on both 
support websites) - but no major progress from either seems to be 
forthcoming.

As a paid up Missing/Sync user, I am demonstrably happy to seek third 
party solutions to the issue - but can't so far find one... I trust 
that MarkSpace will not simply
> ...work... with the various PIM sync conduit providers to see that this
> gets addressed one way or another in the future
but actually produce some optional/better conduits to be used instead. 
It does after all run with the strapline of being "The Future of Mac 
Synchronisation".

Alastair Cutting


From ecronin at gizmolabs.org  Sun Aug  1 15:43:14 2004
From: ecronin at gizmolabs.org (Eric Cronin)
Date: Sun Aug  1 11:43:47 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Separate WiFi conduit settings?
Message-ID: <A55F2658-E3EA-11D8-A2CF-000393199D1E@gizmolabs.org>

I don't seem to be experiencing as much difficulty as others with v4 in 
general, but even sitting 2ft from the basestation I can't get a WiFi 
sync to finish without getting wedged somewhere in the backup stage.  
The palm needs a soft reset to recover, and the PC a reboot (missing 
sync monitor stops responding).  Is there any chance an option for 
different conduit sets to be the default for different synch methods?  
That way for slow connections like wifi, only what's critical could be 
synced...

Also, the mark space website mentions somewhere that the network sync 
has security issues.  Can anyone elaborate on this a little, since 
there's a pretty wide spectrum?  Is it the standard "all your data is 
sent in the clear" problem?  Is it "susceptible to man-in-the-middle"? 
Is it "anyone who can guess your palm's name can connect to the daemon 
and read your files"? Is it "anyone can connect to the daemon without 
knowing anything and do bad things"?  Just trying to get a feeling for 
how much I'm opening myself up to by enabling this.

Thanks,
Eric

From hacker at gnu-designs.com  Sun Aug  1 16:24:36 2004
From: hacker at gnu-designs.com (David A. Desrosiers)
Date: Sun Aug  1 12:24:48 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Separate WiFi conduit settings?
In-Reply-To: <A55F2658-E3EA-11D8-A2CF-000393199D1E@gizmolabs.org>
References: <A55F2658-E3EA-11D8-A2CF-000393199D1E@gizmolabs.org>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0408011518190.5958@aphrodite.gnu-designs.com>


> Also, the mark space website mentions somewhere that the network sync has 
> security issues.  Can anyone elaborate on this a little, since there's a 
> pretty wide spectrum?

 	Their implementation, which follows the Palmsource implementation 
(which has the same issue), sends the information, records, authentication 
and such in the clear, across the "wire" (or wireless, as it were).

 	We've got an SSL + zlib implementation staged for delivery which 
doesn't suffer from these sorts of issues on these platforms (it's also 
about 20-25% faster, but doesn't have support from conduit vendors.. yet).

 	It should be simple for MarkSpace to add something similar, with the 
proper libraries and code from a suitably licensed and compatible project.

> Is it the standard "all your data is sent in the clear" problem?

 	Yes.

> Is it "susceptible to man-in-the-middle"? Is it "anyone who can guess your 
> palm's name can connect to the daemon and read your files"?

 	Yes, we've verified this about 2-3 years ago, including several 
other methods by which data can be "hijacked" from a remote Palm user, if 
you have Network HotSync enabled on a machine reachable from the public 
Internet.

> Is it "anyone can connect to the daemon without knowing anything and do 
> bad things"?  Just trying to get a feeling for how much I'm opening myself 
> up to by enabling this.

 	It is trivially-simple to secure and lock down, presuming you know 
the IP address that you will be using to talk to the machine from. Just use 
your standard firewall rules to restrict the proper ports from all addresses 
except the one you will be using. This is exactly how we do it with our 
Network HotSync Kiosk project to protect the user's data during transfer in 
public "hotspot" locations.

d.

From pekka.nikander at iki.fi  Mon Aug  2 00:14:48 2004
From: pekka.nikander at iki.fi (Pekka Nikander)
Date: Sun Aug  1 13:14:53 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk]  Missing Sync will not configure Palm
	Conduit 1.2
In-Reply-To: <410D4AB8.6030607@flutecake.com>
References: <410C22DE.1040706@flutecake.com>
	<F1A445EA-E387-11D8-B8F4-000393CE1E8C@iki.fi> <410D4AB8.6030607@flutecake.com>
Message-ID: <701072C2-E3F7-11D8-80F9-000393CE1E8C@iki.fi>

Jan,

> However, when I say "Stops Here", I mean, that's as far as I get.  
> iSync cannot add my Palm, no matter how hard I try.  There was never 
> any select your model or any kind of icon for palm on iSync.  Its like 
> I never installed the conduit EXCEPT MS4 lists it and has the "enable" 
> box ticked in the MS4 settings and that's it.
>
> I synced it and synced it-- iSync plays no part.  MS4 has not 
> connected the conduit to iSync.

In this SyncService folder:

   /Library/Application Support/SyncService/<your-account-number>/

Do you have the PalmConduitDefaults.plist and PalmConfiguration.txt
files?  Do you have the folder at all?

(That folder is part of the iSync internal database of the
devices to sync).

If you do have those files, if you could send their contents,
that would probably help.

--Pekka Nikander

From miscellaneous at ohdanny.net  Sun Aug  1 14:37:20 2004
From: miscellaneous at ohdanny.net (miscellaneous@ohdanny.net)
Date: Sun Aug  1 13:37:52 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk]  Missing Sync will not configure Palm
	Conduit 1.2
In-Reply-To: <701072C2-E3F7-11D8-80F9-000393CE1E8C@iki.fi>
References: <410C22DE.1040706@flutecake.com>
	<F1A445EA-E387-11D8-B8F4-000393CE1E8C@iki.fi> <410D4AB8.6030607@flutecake.com>
	<701072C2-E3F7-11D8-80F9-000393CE1E8C@iki.fi>
Message-ID: <95B15D1E-E3FA-11D8-A34B-003065CA9518@ohdanny.net>

On what may be a related note, it seems that every once in a while I 
have had to go back into MissingSync, access the settings for the iSync 
conduit and re-click on the "enable..." radio button. Could this be 
related to your problem?


On Aug 1, 2004, at 1:14 PM, Pekka Nikander wrote:

> Jan,
>
>> However, when I say "Stops Here", I mean, that's as far as I get.  
>> iSync cannot add my Palm, no matter how hard I try.  There was never 
>> any select your model or any kind of icon for palm on iSync.  Its 
>> like I never installed the conduit EXCEPT MS4 lists it and has the 
>> "enable" box ticked in the MS4 settings and that's it.
>>
>> I synced it and synced it-- iSync plays no part.  MS4 has not 
>> connected the conduit to iSync.
>
> In this SyncService folder:
>
>   /Library/Application Support/SyncService/<your-account-number>/
>
> Do you have the PalmConduitDefaults.plist and PalmConfiguration.txt
> files?  Do you have the folder at all?
>
> (That folder is part of the iSync internal database of the
> devices to sync).
>
> If you do have those files, if you could send their contents,
> that would probably help.
>
> --Pekka Nikander
>
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From stevenf at panic.com  Sun Aug  1 14:46:52 2004
From: stevenf at panic.com (Steven Frank)
Date: Sun Aug  1 13:46:54 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] HotSync "interrupted"
Message-ID: <EAD5DF3E-E3FB-11D8-AE0C-000D93AD25D8@panic.com>

Hi all,

I just upgraded to Missing Sync for Palm v4 and it looks very, very 
promising indeed.  I can sync my Tungsten over bluetooth very easily, 
and the Internet Sharing feature is awesome.

I've found two situations where, during bluetooth syncing, the Palm 
will drop the connection and tell me that HotSync was "interrupted", 
while Missing Sync's progress bars continue to churn indefinitely.  
They are:

- If the Documents To Go 6.008 conduit is enabled.  For some reason, as 
soon as it hits this one, it seems to kill the HotSync process.  I have 
DTG Premium, not sure if that makes a difference.

- Installing a large-ish (200+KB) eBook to the SD Card.  It gets about 
a third of the way through the installation, then I get the 
"interrupted" message.

Other than these two things, my syncs always seem to complete just 
fine.  I sent an email into Mark/Space, but was wondering if anyone 
here had any thoughts...  I don't recall having any trouble with these 
two things using Palm Desktop's syncer.

Steven
http://stevenf.com/

From laudema at free.fr  Mon Aug  2 00:04:26 2004
From: laudema at free.fr (LD)
Date: Sun Aug  1 14:04:34 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] HotSync "interrupted"
In-Reply-To: <EAD5DF3E-E3FB-11D8-AE0C-000D93AD25D8@panic.com>
References: <EAD5DF3E-E3FB-11D8-AE0C-000D93AD25D8@panic.com>
Message-ID: <5F4AAEEA-E3FE-11D8-9197-000393A95684@free.fr>


Le 1 ao?t 04, ? 22:46, Steven Frank a ?crit :

>
> Other than these two things, my syncs always seem to complete just 
> fine.  I sent an email into Mark/Space, but was wondering if anyone 
> here had any thoughts...  I don't recall having any trouble with these 
> two things using Palm Desktop's syncer.

Lucky Steven :-)

	I cannot perform synchro from my treo, but I can't give the log of the 
failures : Missing Sync said there has been I/O errors and do ask me if 
I want to see the log. The yes answer give me a blank page, the no 
brings me back to Missing Sync. So I don't even have a lot to show you 
.

	Another thing is that it refuses to install any file : all my .prc 
file (even the one that are currently running on the treo) is declared 
of an invalid type and discarded from the list (which stands empty)

Best

laurent

From mail at wlinkw.com  Mon Aug  2 04:02:16 2004
From: mail at wlinkw.com (W Yu)
Date: Sun Aug  1 14:28:25 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] How to force conduit usage
Message-ID: <BD335F38.94B6%mail@wlinkw.com>

Hi there,

Just installed Missing Sync v4. Fortunately or unfortunately, it seemed to
be too smart and noted that I had multiple conduits that can handle the Memo
database (Entourage and Now-Up-to-Date), and is forcing me to choose only
one. However, Under the old Palm Hotsync Manager and by bypassing the
Notifier, I was able to use NUTD conduit to Hotsync my Datebook database
while Entourage conduit for Memo.

Is there a way to bypass Missing Sync 4's restriction on this? I note
there's no longer a "Notifier" in the Palm Hotsync folder. Any ideas?
-- 


From mail at wlinkw.com  Mon Aug  2 09:45:04 2004
From: mail at wlinkw.com (W Yu)
Date: Sun Aug  1 15:45:10 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk]  Re: [missing-sync-clie-talk]   v4
 conduit compatibility - WorldMate 2004 from MobiMate
In-Reply-To: <p06100556bd319eadd7d6@[10.0.1.7]>
Message-ID: <BD33AF90.9515%mail@wlinkw.com>

Brian Hall at brian_hall@markspace.com wrote on 31/7/04 12:11:

> The master list of conduits we have tested is at:
> 
> http://www.markspace.com/missingsync_palmos_conduits.html

Just came across this item after I installed Missing Sync v4, and found out
that Now-Up-to-Date's conduit isn't compatible.

So how do I uninstall Missing Sync? I recall the previous version had an
uninstaller. How do I go about with v4? Looks like I'll need to stay with
Palm's Hotsync Manager until this is fixed.  :(
-- 


From mmurray at maths.adelaide.edu.au  Mon Aug  2 09:48:17 2004
From: mmurray at maths.adelaide.edu.au (Michael Murray)
Date: Sun Aug  1 16:18:23 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk]  Re: [missing-sync-clie-talk]   v4
  conduit compatibility - WorldMate 2004 from MobiMate
In-Reply-To: <BD33AF90.9515%mail@wlinkw.com>
References: <BD33AF90.9515%mail@wlinkw.com>
Message-ID: <p06110400bd332aaa4c52@[10.0.1.3]>

>Brian Hall at brian_hall@markspace.com wrote on 31/7/04 12:11:
>
>>  The master list of conduits we have tested is at:
>>
>>  http://www.markspace.com/missingsync_palmos_conduits.html
>
>Just came across this item after I installed Missing Sync v4, and found out
>that Now-Up-to-Date's conduit isn't compatible.
>
>So how do I uninstall Missing Sync? I recall the previous version had an
>uninstaller. How do I go about with v4? Looks like I'll need to stay with
>Palm's Hotsync Manager until this is fixed.  :(
>--
>

My v4 came with an uninstaller.

Michael
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From mail at wlinkw.com  Mon Aug  2 10:51:18 2004
From: mail at wlinkw.com (W Yu)
Date: Sun Aug  1 16:53:44 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] 
 Re: [missing-sync-clie-talk]   v4 conduit compatibility -
 WorldMate 2004 from MobiMate
In-Reply-To: <p06110400bd332aaa4c52@[10.0.1.3]>
Message-ID: <BD33BF16.9520%mail@wlinkw.com>

Michael Murray at mmurray@maths.adelaide.edu.au wrote on 02/8/04 09:18:

>> Just came across this item after I installed Missing Sync v4, and found out
>> that Now-Up-to-Date's conduit isn't compatible.
>> 
>> So how do I uninstall Missing Sync? I recall the previous version had an
>> uninstaller. How do I go about with v4? Looks like I'll need to stay with
>> Palm's Hotsync Manager until this is fixed.  :(

> My v4 came with an uninstaller.

Thanks. Found it. I was expecting to find it in the mountable disk image.
Didn't think it was in the installed folder.

Now I'll wait for proper support...
-- 


From bruce_gerson at mac.com  Sun Aug  1 22:00:08 2004
From: bruce_gerson at mac.com (Bruce Gerson)
Date: Sun Aug  1 21:00:23 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Conduit Manager has unexpectedly quit
Message-ID: <71F5E81E-E438-11D8-A90F-000A95983E54@mac.com>

Missing Sync 4.0 quits with an "Sync Error The conduit manager has 
unexpectedly quit. Please try to sync again." error message. The Treo 
screen shows Synchronizing Calendar while Missing Sync appears to be 
switching to sync Note Pad.

I have uninstalled Missing Sync and the iSync conduit. I've deleted all 
of the Preferences related to Missing Sync and iSync. I've even moved 
the entire Preferences folder to the Desktop to see if any other 
Preferences might be affecting this.  I've checked the Sync Log (which 
is set to show more details) but all it shows is:

Sync starting at 8/1/04 8:42 PM on USB OK
Sync starting at 8/1/04 8:47 PM on USB
OK Install
8/1/04 8:47 PM iSync Conduit starting
8/1/04 8:47 PM Setting Hello Response, type is PalmSyncTypeFast, 
language is 0 (BladeLanguageEnglish)
OK iSync Conduit

It appears as if the syncing with Address Book and iCal complete in 
that the data is there on both the Mac and the Treo.

(I'm sure that there are other things which I've changed but I cannot 
remember right now (it's late and I've been working on this all day).

This is MissingSync 4.0, OS X 10.3.4, palmOne Treo 600, iSync 1.4 with 
iSync Conduits 1.2, latest versions of Address Book and iCal.

Any ideas?

Bruce

--
Bruce Gerson						iChat/AIM:  bgerson

From jason at ophiochos.org.uk  Mon Aug  2 11:33:25 2004
From: jason at ophiochos.org.uk (Jason Davies)
Date: Mon Aug  2 02:29:55 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Conduit Manager has unexpectedly quit
In-Reply-To: <71F5E81E-E438-11D8-A90F-000A95983E54@mac.com>
Message-ID: <r02010200-1034-016B9B1EE46711D8A1B0000A95D94B22@[172.189.180.162]>

>Any ideas?

Hi Bruce

I'm gtting similar responses with little detectable rhyme or reason. I
keep trying to compile a proper report but it seems inherently
unpredictable.

From stefan.larsson at op.se  Mon Aug  2 13:16:19 2004
From: stefan.larsson at op.se (Stefan Larsson)
Date: Mon Aug  2 03:17:11 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] FirstClass conduits
Message-ID: <fc.00802d3c00ace8e000802d3c00ace8e0.ace8f5@op.se>

I'm using FirstClass as my organiser but the conduits don't show up in
Missing Sync. Anyone with a solution to my problem


mvh

- - - - 
Stefan Larsson




From lola at his.com  Mon Aug  2 07:22:05 2004
From: lola at his.com (Lola Lee)
Date: Mon Aug  2 03:22:10 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: HotSync "interrupted"
In-Reply-To: <200408020400.i7240b40008209@penguin.markspace.com>
References: <200408020400.i7240b40008209@penguin.markspace.com>
Message-ID: <410E15CD.3000208@his.com>


> From: Steven Frank <stevenf@panic.com>

[snipped]

> I've found two situations where, during bluetooth syncing, the Palm 
> will drop the connection and tell me that HotSync was "interrupted", 
> while Missing Sync's progress bars continue to churn indefinitely.  
> They are:

I've had this happen as well.


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From hflaxman at neb.rr.com  Mon Aug  2 08:06:25 2004
From: hflaxman at neb.rr.com (Harry Flaxman)
Date: Mon Aug  2 05:06:38 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Missing Address Book
Message-ID: <410E2E41.2080102@neb.rr.com>

For some reason my addressbook conduit is not working.  I have no idea 
why as they are all set up.  I have a CLIE PEG-TJ37.  I have checked the 
Apple addressbook and the Palm Desktop addressbook and neither is 
receiving my addresses.  Any ideas where next to look?

Thanks.

Harry Flaxman

From miscellaneous at ohdanny.net  Mon Aug  2 11:06:29 2004
From: miscellaneous at ohdanny.net (miscellaneous@ohdanny.net)
Date: Mon Aug  2 10:07:02 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Missing Address Book
In-Reply-To: <410E2E41.2080102@neb.rr.com>
References: <410E2E41.2080102@neb.rr.com>
Message-ID: <4C06909B-E4A6-11D8-A34B-003065CA9518@ohdanny.net>

Do you have both conduits in MissingSync (iSync & Palm Address)? If so 
you might want to leave only the conduit you want to use in the 
"conduits" folder and place the other in the "disabled conduits" 
folder. Just an idea. You are supposed to be able to simply uncheck 
what you don't want to use but...

Is it Palm OS 5.2 (I saw that was on the "supported list on the 
Mark/Space site)?

Just some ideas...



Dan M.





On Aug 2, 2004, at 5:06 AM, Harry Flaxman wrote:

> For some reason my addressbook conduit is not working.  I have no idea 
> why as they are all set up.  I have a CLIE PEG-TJ37.  I have checked 
> the Apple addressbook and the Palm Desktop addressbook and neither is 
> receiving my addresses.  Any ideas where next to look?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Harry Flaxman
>
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From brian_hall at markspace.com  Mon Aug  2 11:19:22 2004
From: brian_hall at markspace.com (Brian Hall)
Date: Mon Aug  2 10:19:43 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] FirstClass conduits
In-Reply-To: <fc.00802d3c00ace8e000802d3c00ace8e0.ace8f5@op.se>
References: <fc.00802d3c00ace8e000802d3c00ace8e0.ace8f5@op.se>
Message-ID: <p0610050fbd3427ce415d@[10.0.1.23]>

>I'm using FirstClass as my organiser but the conduits don't show up in
>Missing Sync.

I presume you mean in the list of conduits in the main window?

Do other conduits show up?

> Anyone with a solution to my problem

Where are they located?

Conduits should be in /Library/Application Support/Palm HotSync/Conduits/

Brian

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From brian_hall at markspace.com  Mon Aug  2 11:21:20 2004
From: brian_hall at markspace.com (Brian Hall)
Date: Mon Aug  2 10:22:05 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk]  Re: [missing-sync-clie-talk]   v4
  conduit compatibility - WorldMate 2004 from MobiMate
In-Reply-To: <BD33AF90.9515%mail@wlinkw.com>
References: <BD33AF90.9515%mail@wlinkw.com>
Message-ID: <p06100511bd3428846c0f@[10.0.1.23]>

>So how do I uninstall Missing Sync? I recall the previous version had an
>uninstaller. How do I go about with v4? Looks like I'll need to stay with
>Palm's Hotsync Manager until this is fixed.  :(

The uninstaller is in the same folder as the Missing Sync app itself.

Brian

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From brian_hall at markspace.com  Mon Aug  2 12:10:20 2004
From: brian_hall at markspace.com (Brian Hall)
Date: Mon Aug  2 11:10:51 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] MacNoteTaker chokes....
In-Reply-To: 
 <r02010200-1034-B892556AE34511D8B014000A95D94B22@[172.186.110.34]>
References: 
 <r02010200-1034-B892556AE34511D8B014000A95D94B22@[172.186.110.34]>
Message-ID: <p06100501bd3433dcdc96@[10.0.1.28]>

>Brian did you get my follow-up? I think this also causes errors in Palm
>HSM. So the chances are that this is not a bug in your software...

Yes, got a follow up from the author today. We have set him up with a copy
of the software. If you get the same crash with Palm Desktop, I'd recommend
you report that to him.

Brian

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From hflaxman at neb.rr.com  Mon Aug  2 14:43:56 2004
From: hflaxman at neb.rr.com (Harry Flaxman)
Date: Mon Aug  2 11:44:02 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Missing Address Book
In-Reply-To: <4C06909B-E4A6-11D8-A34B-003065CA9518@ohdanny.net>
References: <410E2E41.2080102@neb.rr.com>
	<4C06909B-E4A6-11D8-A34B-003065CA9518@ohdanny.net>
Message-ID: <410E8B6C.6000209@neb.rr.com>

miscellaneous@ohdanny.net wrote:

> Do you have both conduits in MissingSync (iSync & Palm Address)? If so 
> you might want to leave only the conduit you want to use in the 
> "conduits" folder and place the other in the "disabled conduits" 
> folder. Just an idea. You are supposed to be able to simply uncheck 
> what you don't want to use but...
>
> Is it Palm OS 5.2 (I saw that was on the "supported list on the 
> Mark/Space site)?
>
> Just some ideas...
>
>
>
> Dan M.
>
>
>
Will give it a try.  Right now, it's not synching with anything.  
Anything would be an improvement.

Harry

From kfreeman at markspace.com  Mon Aug  2 15:35:41 2004
From: kfreeman at markspace.com (Ken Freeman)
Date: Mon Aug  2 14:35:45 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] extra software
In-Reply-To: <r02010200-1034-D3C4A8DEE34311D8B014000A95D94B22@[172.186.110.34]>
References: <r02010200-1034-D3C4A8DEE34311D8B014000A95D94B22@[172.186.110.34]>
Message-ID: <E6E7AEEF-E4CB-11D8-A800-000A9570181E@markspace.com>

SplashPhoto is inside the "SplashPhoto" folder inside the folder 
"Missing Sync for Palm OS."

There is NOT an MP3 player included with the Missing Sync version 4.

Ken

On Jul 31, 2004, at 3:49 PM, Jason Davies wrote:

> can someone clarify for me: I didn't get the MP3 player that I have 
> been
> meaning to redownload and Splashphoto with MS4. Can I still 
> use\download
> these that I got with v2?
>
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From kfreeman at markspace.com  Mon Aug  2 15:36:35 2004
From: kfreeman at markspace.com (Ken Freeman)
Date: Mon Aug  2 14:36:36 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] error with install
In-Reply-To: <r02010200-1034-BE42DBDCE34911D8B014000A95D94B22@[172.186.110.34]>
References: <r02010200-1034-BE42DBDCE34911D8B014000A95D94B22@[172.186.110.34]>
Message-ID: <072D9A50-E4CC-11D8-A800-000A9570181E@markspace.com>

When? Please provide steps to duplicate, including the type of Mac you 
are on, version of Mac OS X, type of handheld, etc.

Ken

On Jul 31, 2004, at 4:31 PM, Jason Davies wrote:

> I keep getting error number
>
> - Unexpected error number 16405
>     - Unexpected error number 16405
>
>
> what's that? :-) and what can I do about it?
>
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From kfreeman at markspace.com  Mon Aug  2 15:42:38 2004
From: kfreeman at markspace.com (Ken Freeman)
Date: Mon Aug  2 14:42:43 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Missing Address Book
In-Reply-To: <410E2E41.2080102@neb.rr.com>
References: <410E2E41.2080102@neb.rr.com>
Message-ID: <DFC10B12-E4CC-11D8-A800-000A9570181E@markspace.com>

Try disabling the "Contacts" conduit and make sure that Address Book is 
enabled. If you had the palmOne desktop 4.2.1 software installed you 
had two sets of conduits for the older/classic PIM apps (Address Book, 
Date Book, Memo Pad, To Do) and the newer palmOne PIM apps (Calendar, 
Contacts, Memo, Tasks).

Ken

On Aug 2, 2004, at 5:06 AM, Harry Flaxman wrote:

> For some reason my addressbook conduit is not working.  I have no idea 
> why as they are all set up.  I have a CLIE PEG-TJ37.  I have checked 
> the Apple addressbook and the Palm Desktop addressbook and neither is 
> receiving my addresses.  Any ideas where next to look?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Harry Flaxman
>
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From jason at ophiochos.org.uk  Tue Aug  3 00:11:26 2004
From: jason at ophiochos.org.uk (Jason Davies)
Date: Mon Aug  2 15:08:05 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] extra software
In-Reply-To: <E6E7AEEF-E4CB-11D8-A800-000A9570181E@markspace.com>
Message-ID: <r02010200-1034-E655B0C5E4D011D88197000A95D94B22@[172.186.24.130]>

>SplashPhoto is inside the "SplashPhoto" folder inside the folder
>"Missing Sync for Palm OS."
>
>There is NOT an MP3 player included with the Missing Sync version 4.


yes but my question was, how do I get the Aeroplayer license that I
should have received (but didn't) when I bought v.2? Apparently I should
have been sent a registration code with 2, but can find no trace of
it...

is this the right place for this? I am unclear whether this is an
'official' resource for MS?

From kfreeman at markspace.com  Mon Aug  2 16:13:52 2004
From: kfreeman at markspace.com (Ken Freeman)
Date: Mon Aug  2 15:14:01 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] extra software
In-Reply-To: <r02010200-1034-E655B0C5E4D011D88197000A95D94B22@[172.186.24.130]>
References: <r02010200-1034-E655B0C5E4D011D88197000A95D94B22@[172.186.24.130]>
Message-ID: <3CA17543-E4D1-11D8-A800-000A9570181E@markspace.com>

Look in the email you received when you bought the 2.x version, you 
should see a link to register the product. When you register the 
product you are given the choice to choose Aeroplayer or Sketch as 
add-on products. If you choose Aeroplayer you will get an email from 
the makers of Aeroplayer with a reg code.

If you did not register, you will NOT have received the code.

Ken

On Aug 2, 2004, at 3:11 PM, Jason Davies wrote:

>> SplashPhoto is inside the "SplashPhoto" folder inside the folder
>> "Missing Sync for Palm OS."
>>
>> There is NOT an MP3 player included with the Missing Sync version 4.
>
>
> yes but my question was, how do I get the Aeroplayer license that I
> should have received (but didn't) when I bought v.2? Apparently I 
> should
> have been sent a registration code with 2, but can find no trace of
> it...
>
> is this the right place for this? I am unclear whether this is an
> 'official' resource for MS?
>
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From kfreeman at markspace.com  Mon Aug  2 16:28:08 2004
From: kfreeman at markspace.com (Ken Freeman)
Date: Mon Aug  2 15:28:12 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Time Error in Internet Sharing
In-Reply-To: <BD314D44.3BFD%jzurek@cabrini.edu>
References: <BD314D44.3BFD%jzurek@cabrini.edu>
Message-ID: <3AD477A2-E4D3-11D8-A800-000A9570181E@markspace.com>

Try to sync with AvantGo again. We believe their servers had some down 
time this weekend and things should be working now.

Ken

On Jul 31, 2004, at 10:21 AM, Jerry Zurek wrote:

> While trying to do an Avantgo sync with MS 4.0, I received the 
> following
> error:
>
> Certificate Error:
> TLInvalidCertDatesErr
> Please verify that your handheld device's clock is set correctly.
>
> Then Second screen says:
> Error 5471
>
> I check my PDA's time and zone and my computer's and they are the 
> same. I do
> recall that when I used "Sync Entourage-iCal" by Paul Berkowicz for the
> first time yesterday, I had to turn on Time Zone support in the iCal
> preferences. I was able to sync Avantgo before that but not 
> afterwards. I
> unchecked Time Zone support but still got the error.
>
> I can do Hotsyncs in MS4.0 fine.
>
> Any ideas what this error means and how to fix it.
> -- 
> Thanks,
> Jerry Zurek
>
>
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From kfreeman at markspace.com  Mon Aug  2 16:46:27 2004
From: kfreeman at markspace.com (Ken Freeman)
Date: Mon Aug  2 15:46:31 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk]  Re: missing-sync-palmos-talk Digest,
	Vol 14, Issue 12
In-Reply-To: <410C10B7.6010301@neb.rr.com>
References: <200407311915.i6VJFD40002565@penguin.markspace.com>
	<410C10B7.6010301@neb.rr.com>
Message-ID: <C9B0A392-E4D5-11D8-A800-000A9570181E@markspace.com>

The new version 4 of The Missing Sync for Palm OS replaces all the 
previous versions for Sony, Palm OS, Garmin, Tapwave, etc. Version 4 
does NOT require the Palm Desktop/HotSync Manager software any longer 
either.

For more information visit www.markspace.com/palmos

Ken

On Jul 31, 2004, at 2:35 PM, Harry Flaxman wrote:

> I purchased the ML4.0 and noticed that it had several different 
> downloads the first time I downloaded it, in one, for my
> Sony CLIE.  Now, there are just two selections and no page to go to to 
> download the palm desktop.  Forgive a beginner, but what am I to do at 
> this point?
> \
>
> Thank you.
>
> Harry
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From jzurek at cabrini.edu  Mon Aug  2 19:59:02 2004
From: jzurek at cabrini.edu (Jerry Zurek)
Date: Mon Aug  2 15:59:05 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] 
	Installing Missing Sync for Palm OS  v4 on 10.2.8 - Looping
Message-ID: <8BB52888-E4D7-11D8-A58D-000393A4DCD6@cabrini.edu>

Has the problem of the installation quitting at about file 135 been 
solved? I had to reinstall MS 4 after reformatting the hard drive and 
am getting into the install looping as well. I have tried it both with 
and without MS 2 present.

----
Thanks,
Jerry Zurek

From kfreeman at markspace.com  Mon Aug  2 17:03:04 2004
From: kfreeman at markspace.com (Ken Freeman)
Date: Mon Aug  2 16:03:08 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] "failed media" message on sync
In-Reply-To: <8ADDAB0A-E34C-11D8-B59D-003065715492@earthlink.net>
References: <8ADDAB0A-E34C-11D8-B59D-003065715492@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <1C78296C-E4D8-11D8-A800-000A9570181E@markspace.com>

If you disable the Media conduit can you sync without any errors? What 
handheld are you using? The Media conduit is for palmOne branded 
handhelds that have the Photo or Media handheld application. If you 
don't have this handheld application you'll want to disable or delete 
this conduit for good.

Ken

On Jul 31, 2004, at 4:51 PM, Katrina Worley wrote:

> I finally managed to get Missing Sync 4 installed and registered 
> (don't ask, it wasn't pretty, and my registration problems had nothing 
> to do with the servers).  It appears to be working OK, except that 
> I've gotten a "failed media" message every time I sync with one 
> exception.  I don't know what was different about that one time- I 
> thought it was that I had included an e-book to be installed on the 
> memory card, but the next time I did that I got the error again.  I 
> can't figure out what the message refers to.  Any ideas?  I've 
> included the sync log for my most recent sync below.
>
> BTW- I'm running OS X.3.4, and syncing to iCal and Apple's address 
> book.  I'm not using Palm Desktop at all.  Can I trash it now that 
> Missing Sync is using it's own version of a hotsync manager?
>
> Thanks-
>
> Katrina
>
>
>
> Sync starting at 7/31/04 4:33 PM on USB
> OK Install
> 7/31/04 4:33 PM iSync Conduit starting
> 7/31/04 4:34 PM Setting Hello Response, type is PalmSyncTypeFast, 
> language is 0 (BladeLanguageEnglish)
> OK iSync Conduit
> OK Memo
> Failed Media (0x4003)
> OK Note Pad
>
> Beginning Pocket Quicken 2.0 Sync
> OK Pocket Quicken 2.0
> TimeCopy: host 2004/07/31 16:38:54, palm 2004/07/31 16:37:26, diff: 88s
> OK TimeCopy
> OK Documents To Go
> OK Install
>     Backed up DatebookDB.pdb
>     Backed up MemoDB.pdb
>     Backed up PQKN-Accounts.pdb
>     Backed up PQKN-Transactions.pdb
>     Backed up PQKN-Lists.pdb
>     Backed up PQKN-Memorized.pdb
>     Backed up Palm Reader Preferences.pdb
>     Backed up Saved Preferences.prc
> OK Backup
> Sync completed successfully at 7/31/04 4:40 PM
>
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From thelwell at earthlink.net  Mon Aug  2 20:07:49 2004
From: thelwell at earthlink.net (Jeanne Edna Thelwell)
Date: Mon Aug  2 16:07:55 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Strange sync problem
Message-ID: <p06110402bd347829dbec@[10.0.1.2]>

I just installed missing-sync for Palm OS 4.  When I initiate a 
hotsync by pressing the button the cradle, it indicates that it is 
contacting my desktop, then it says it's identifying user, then -- 
after a lengthy wait during which nothing happens -- it begins clean 
up.  The log indicates that the hotsync is complete.  There are no 
error messages and no entries in the log on the pda (a T2).  Nothing 
happens on my Mac.  Nothing at all.  The T2 is set to Local 
(Cradle/Cable); Missing sync prefs are set for USB.  No entries in 
the Missing Sync log.   Hotsync manager was successfully removed from 
my palm desktop folder.  I've checked the cable connections.  But 
*nothing* happens, no errors -- not even a failure to connect to 
desktop message -- nothing.

Has anyone got a clue?
-- 

Jeanne
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From bannk at sbcglobal.net  Mon Aug  2 17:16:53 2004
From: bannk at sbcglobal.net (Barbara Kassal)
Date: Mon Aug  2 16:16:56 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Problem with Missing Sync?
Message-ID: <BD341975.1B8C%bannk@sbcglobal.net>

I have a G5 with Mac OS 10.3.  I am using Entourage for my address book and
calendar.  I recently purchased a Palm Tungsten E, for which Entourage
provides no conduit and which I did not find out until after I tried to use
my new Palm.  I purchased Missing Synch, with the expectation that it would
provide my Palm with a conduit or a way to use Entourage;  unfortunately, it
still did not work.  When the new upgrade was made available last week, I
had some problem with the reg code, but worked that out and was able to
download and install the new software.  However, I am still not synching
with Entourage.  Please help me.  If Missing Synch is not able to solve my
problem, then I would like a refund, for this is the only reason that I
bought this software.  Thank you in advance for any help you can provide.
Barbara Kassal
From bruce_gerson at mac.com  Mon Aug  2 17:53:05 2004
From: bruce_gerson at mac.com (Bruce Gerson)
Date: Mon Aug  2 16:53:20 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Problem with Missing Sync?
In-Reply-To: <BD341975.1B8C%bannk@sbcglobal.net>
References: <BD341975.1B8C%bannk@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <18B58344-E4DF-11D8-BCDB-000A95983E54@mac.com>

On Aug 2, 2004, at 4:16 PM, Barbara Kassal wrote:

> I purchased Missing Synch, with the expectation that it would
> provide my Palm with a conduit or a way to use Entourage;   
> unfortunately, it
> still did not work.

If you have Office 2004, look in the Additional Tools for Handheld Sync  
Installer and run that.  If you have Office X, download the Handheld  
Sync Installer at  
http://download.microsoft.com/download/1/8/d/18d11409-74a4-4d9e-8978- 
e7238e09937a/HandSyncX2EN.bin

Bruce

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From kfreeman at markspace.com  Mon Aug  2 18:39:32 2004
From: kfreeman at markspace.com (Ken Freeman)
Date: Mon Aug  2 17:39:47 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk]  Installing Missing Sync for Palm OS
	v4 on 10.2.8 - Looping
In-Reply-To: <8BB52888-E4D7-11D8-A58D-000393A4DCD6@cabrini.edu>
References: <8BB52888-E4D7-11D8-A58D-000393A4DCD6@cabrini.edu>
Message-ID: <95FACCA6-E4E5-11D8-A800-000A9570181E@markspace.com>

I've not been able to duplicate this! Are you installing over the Palm 
Desktop/HotSync Manager software or an entirely clean/reformatted 
10.2.8 drive?

Ken

On Aug 2, 2004, at 3:59 PM, Jerry Zurek wrote:

> Has the problem of the installation quitting at about file 135 been 
> solved? I had to reinstall MS 4 after reformatting the hard drive and 
> am getting into the install looping as well. I have tried it both with 
> and without MS 2 present.
>
> ----
> Thanks,
> Jerry Zurek
>
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From kfreeman at markspace.com  Mon Aug  2 18:41:37 2004
From: kfreeman at markspace.com (Ken Freeman)
Date: Mon Aug  2 17:41:42 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Strange sync problem
In-Reply-To: <p06110402bd347829dbec@[10.0.1.2]>
References: <p06110402bd347829dbec@[10.0.1.2]>
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Does this Mac have multiple Mac OS X users? Are any of them logged in 
when trying to sync?

Ken

On Aug 2, 2004, at 4:07 PM, Jeanne Edna Thelwell wrote:

> I just installed missing-sync for Palm OS 4.  When I initiate a 
> hotsync by pressing the button the cradle, it indicates that it is 
> contacting my desktop, then it says it's identifying user, then -- 
> after a lengthy wait during which nothing happens -- it begins clean 
> up.  The log indicates that the hotsync is complete.  There are no 
> error messages and no entries in the log on the pda (a T2).  Nothing 
> happens on my Mac.  Nothing at all.  The T2 is set to Local 
> (Cradle/Cable); Missing sync prefs are set for USB.  No entries in the 
> Missing Sync log.   Hotsync manager was successfully removed from my 
> palm desktop folder.  I've checked the cable connections.  But 
> *nothing* happens, no errors -- not even a failure to connect to 
> desktop message -- nothing.
>
> Has anyone got a clue?
> -- 
>
> Jeanne
> ---------------------------------
> "Technique without ideals is a menace.  Ideals without technique are a 
> mess." -- Karl Llewellyn
>
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From kfreeman at markspace.com  Mon Aug  2 18:57:24 2004
From: kfreeman at markspace.com (Ken Freeman)
Date: Mon Aug  2 17:57:27 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Problem with Missing Sync?
In-Reply-To: <BD341975.1B8C%bannk@sbcglobal.net>
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You need the latest Entourage 2004 conduits. The Entourage conduit is 
provided by Microsoft. Microsoft supports the new palmOne PIM apps on 
the Tungsten E with Entourage 2004 and their latest conduits for 
Entourage 2004. I don't believe the Office X or Entourage X conduits 
support the new palmOne PIM apps.

Ken

On Aug 2, 2004, at 4:16 PM, Barbara Kassal wrote:

> I have a G5 with Mac OS 10.3.  I am using Entourage for my address 
> book and
> calendar.  I recently purchased a Palm Tungsten E, for which Entourage
> provides no conduit and which I did not find out until after I tried 
> to use
> my new Palm.  I purchased Missing Synch, with the expectation that it 
> would
> provide my Palm with a conduit or a way to use Entourage;  
> unfortunately, it
> still did not work.  When the new upgrade was made available last 
> week, I
> had some problem with the reg code, but worked that out and was able to
> download and install the new software.  However, I am still not 
> synching
> with Entourage.  Please help me.  If Missing Synch is not able to 
> solve my
> problem, then I would like a refund, for this is the only reason that I
> bought this software.  Thank you in advance for any help you can 
> provide.
> Barbara Kassal
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From thelwell at earthlink.net  Mon Aug  2 22:16:49 2004
From: thelwell at earthlink.net (Jeanne Edna Thelwell)
Date: Mon Aug  2 18:17:50 2004
Subject: Fwd: Re: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Strange sync problem (addendum)
Message-ID: <p06110405bd34976e4084@[10.0.1.2]>

Not only did install fail, Missing Sync is now completely gone from 
the T2 (I had 2.02 installed), so it managed to delete it, but not to 
replace it.

Is there somewhere I can get 2.02, so that I can still use the card 
mounting functionality while I try to get the rest of this working?


>No, only one user, and (you didn't ask, but it doesn't hurt to 
>mention), I'm running 10.3.4 on a G5.
>
>I did get some response by restarting the machine and resetting the 
>T2 several times.  I got response from missing sync, but alternately 
>got memory manager errors from the T2 and unexpected quitting from 
>missing sync.
>
>The log indicates that install failed (although it also seems to be 
>trying to install things it shouldn't be (like DocToGo.prc, which is 
>already installed; the only thing it should be installing is missing 
>sync), and it says the user isn't configured for any iSync data 
>classes, although I was able to use iSync on Saturday when I sync'd 
>last, and I haven't changed anything.
>
>This is a mess.
>
>>Does this Mac have multiple Mac OS X users? Are any of them logged 
>>in when trying to sync?
>>
>>Ken
>>
>>On Aug 2, 2004, at 4:07 PM, Jeanne Edna Thelwell wrote:
>>
>>>I just installed missing-sync for Palm OS 4.  When I initiate a 
>>>hotsync by pressing the button the cradle, it indicates that it is 
>>>contacting my desktop, then it says it's identifying user, then -- 
>>>after a lengthy wait during which nothing happens -- it begins 
>>>clean up.  The log indicates that the hotsync is complete.  There 
>>>are no error messages and no entries in the log on the pda (a T2). 
>>>Nothing happens on my Mac.  Nothing at all.  The T2 is set to 
>>>Local (Cradle/Cable); Missing sync prefs are set for USB.  No 
>>>entries in the Missing Sync log.   Hotsync manager was 
>>>successfully removed from my palm desktop folder.  I've checked 
>>>the cable connections.  But *nothing* happens, no errors -- not 
>>>even a failure to connect to desktop message -- nothing.
>>>
>>>Has anyone got a clue?
>>>--
>
>--
>
>
>Jeanne
>---------------------------------
>"Technique without ideals is a menace.  Ideals without technique are 
>a mess." -- Karl Llewellyn
>
>Teacher: Year One -- http://www.thelwell.org/teacher
>Urban Education Journal -- http://www.urbaneducationjournal.org


-- 

Jeanne
---------------------------------
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a mess." -- Karl Llewellyn

Teacher: Year One -- http://www.thelwell.org/teacher
Urban Education Journal -- http://www.urbaneducationjournal.org
From katworley at earthlink.net  Mon Aug  2 19:30:10 2004
From: katworley at earthlink.net (Katrina Worley)
Date: Mon Aug  2 18:30:15 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] "failed media" message on sync
In-Reply-To: <1C78296C-E4D8-11D8-A800-000A9570181E@markspace.com>
References: <8ADDAB0A-E34C-11D8-B59D-003065715492@earthlink.net>
	<1C78296C-E4D8-11D8-A800-000A9570181E@markspace.com>
Message-ID: <A8DADEAC-E4EC-11D8-B7A9-003065715492@earthlink.net>

I'm using a Palm Zire 71, and I do have the Photo application. If the 
Media conduit is what's needed to sync the pictures taken with Photo, 
then I don't want to disable it... I want to fix it so that I don't get 
the error.  I just tried taking a picture with the Zire and syncing.  
It syncs the picture fine (the picture shows up in the folder on my 
computer harddrive), but I still get the error message.

Katrina

On Aug 2, 2004, at 4:03 PM, Ken Freeman wrote:

> If you disable the Media conduit can you sync without any errors? What 
> handheld are you using? The Media conduit is for palmOne branded 
> handhelds that have the Photo or Media handheld application. If you 
> don't have this handheld application you'll want to disable or delete 
> this conduit for good.
>
> Ken
>
> On Jul 31, 2004, at 4:51 PM, Katrina Worley wrote:
>
>> I finally managed to get Missing Sync 4 installed and registered 
>> (don't ask, it wasn't pretty, and my registration problems had 
>> nothing to do with the servers).  It appears to be working OK, except 
>> that I've gotten a "failed media" message every time I sync with one 
>> exception.  I don't know what was different about that one time- I 
>> thought it was that I had included an e-book to be installed on the 
>> memory card, but the next time I did that I got the error again.  I 
>> can't figure out what the message refers to.  Any ideas?  I've 
>> included the sync log for my most recent sync below.
>>
>> BTW- I'm running OS X.3.4, and syncing to iCal and Apple's address 
>> book.  I'm not using Palm Desktop at all.  Can I trash it now that 
>> Missing Sync is using it's own version of a hotsync manager?
>>
>> Thanks-
>>
>> Katrina
>>
>>
>>
>> Sync starting at 7/31/04 4:33 PM on USB
>> OK Install
>> 7/31/04 4:33 PM iSync Conduit starting
>> 7/31/04 4:34 PM Setting Hello Response, type is PalmSyncTypeFast, 
>> language is 0 (BladeLanguageEnglish)
>> OK iSync Conduit
>> OK Memo
>> Failed Media (0x4003)
>> OK Note Pad
>>
>> Beginning Pocket Quicken 2.0 Sync
>> OK Pocket Quicken 2.0
>> TimeCopy: host 2004/07/31 16:38:54, palm 2004/07/31 16:37:26, diff: 
>> 88s
>> OK TimeCopy
>> OK Documents To Go
>> OK Install
>>     Backed up DatebookDB.pdb
>>     Backed up MemoDB.pdb
>>     Backed up PQKN-Accounts.pdb
>>     Backed up PQKN-Transactions.pdb
>>     Backed up PQKN-Lists.pdb
>>     Backed up PQKN-Memorized.pdb
>>     Backed up Palm Reader Preferences.pdb
>>     Backed up Saved Preferences.prc
>> OK Backup
>> Sync completed successfully at 7/31/04 4:40 PM
>>
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From mmurray at maths.adelaide.edu.au  Tue Aug  3 12:50:16 2004
From: mmurray at maths.adelaide.edu.au (Michael Murray)
Date: Mon Aug  2 19:20:27 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Trivial feature request
In-Reply-To: <A8DADEAC-E4EC-11D8-B7A9-003065715492@earthlink.net>
References: <8ADDAB0A-E34C-11D8-B59D-003065715492@earthlink.net>
 <1C78296C-E4D8-11D8-A800-000A9570181E@markspace.com>
 <A8DADEAC-E4EC-11D8-B7A9-003065715492@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <p06110404bd34a673f7b6@[192.168.2.1]>

Hi

Because M/S runs in the background so nicely I don't know if its syncing unless
I check the palm.

Would be it be possible to have an (optional) icon appear in the menu
bar which indicates a sync is happening.

Thanks - Michael
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From sgruby at markspace.com  Mon Aug  2 20:24:51 2004
From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby)
Date: Mon Aug  2 19:24:59 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Trivial feature request
In-Reply-To: <p06110404bd34a673f7b6@[192.168.2.1]>
References: <8ADDAB0A-E34C-11D8-B59D-003065715492@earthlink.net>
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On Aug 2, 2004, at 7:20 PM, Michael Murray wrote:

> Hi
>
> Because M/S runs in the background so nicely I don't know if its 
> syncing unless
> I check the palm.
>
> Would be it be possible to have an (optional) icon appear in the menu
> bar which indicates a sync is happening.
>
>

We do have an icon in the dock complete with a progress bar. Do you 
hide the dock and not notice it? Or have you disabled the progress 
dialog during sync? While your request is a "simple" one, it is a bit 
tricky to implement and to have it provide updated status. It's 
possible to add for a future version, but we can't commit to adding it 
right now (there are a number of other things also on the list that 
must get done).

Thanks for the suggestion!

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From deleonju at mac.com  Tue Aug  3 00:50:58 2004
From: deleonju at mac.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Juan_Carlos_De_Le=F3n?=)
Date: Mon Aug  2 20:51:08 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] 
	Unable to sync addressbook with isync using MS4
Message-ID: <547CF3FC-E500-11D8-B06B-000A959D21FC@mac.com>

Everytime I try to sync with isync, the palm gets a fatal error and 
crashes.  I have to do a hard reset.  It always happens when it starts 
to synchronize the address book.  The mac keeps on going, but the Palm 
crashes.
Any Ideas as to what might be happening.?

Thanks,

JC

From mmurray at maths.adelaide.edu.au  Tue Aug  3 14:25:24 2004
From: mmurray at maths.adelaide.edu.au (Michael Murray)
Date: Mon Aug  2 20:58:06 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Trivial feature request
In-Reply-To: <4C7B1D30-E4F4-11D8-BA73-000D932F4F94@markspace.com>
References: <8ADDAB0A-E34C-11D8-B59D-003065715492@earthlink.net>
 <1C78296C-E4D8-11D8-A800-000A9570181E@markspace.com>
 <A8DADEAC-E4EC-11D8-B7A9-003065715492@earthlink.net>
 <p06110404bd34a673f7b6@[192.168.2.1]>
 <4C7B1D30-E4F4-11D8-BA73-000D932F4F94@markspace.com>
Message-ID: <p06110406bd34bcd0982a@[192.168.2.1]>

>On Aug 2, 2004, at 7:20 PM, Michael Murray wrote:
>
>>Hi
>>
>>Because M/S runs in the background so nicely I don't know if its 
>>syncing unless
>>I check the palm.
>>
>>Would be it be possible to have an (optional) icon appear in the menu
>>bar which indicates a sync is happening.
>>
>
>We do have an icon in the dock complete with a progress bar. Do you 
>hide the dock and not notice it? Or have you disabled the progress 
>dialog during sync? While your request is a "simple" one, it is a 
>bit tricky to implement and to have it provide updated status. It's 
>possible to add for a future version, but we can't commit to adding 
>it right now (there are a number of other things also on the list 
>that must get done).
>
>Thanks for the suggestion!
>


Hi

Oops. I guess I hadn't noticed the dock icon  :-(
You are right it works fine though and there is no need for a menu one as well.

Thanks - Michael

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From missing-sync-palmos-talk at sjk.us  Mon Aug  2 19:46:24 2004
From: missing-sync-palmos-talk at sjk.us (Scott J. Kramer)
Date: Mon Aug  2 21:46:29 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk]  MemoPad Creating Multiple
 Categories of the Same Name
In-Reply-To: <5B65BB22-E38E-11D8-B993-003065CA9518@ohdanny.net>
References: <5B65BB22-E38E-11D8-B993-003065CA9518@ohdanny.net>
Message-ID: <967409C5E0841887A98A6030@halo.luxnet.org>

--On Sunday, August 1, 2004 00:42 -0700 miscellaneous@ohdanny.net wrote:

> I am getting multiple categories of the same name being created by
> either creating a note on the Palm or using MemoPad.
>
> In other words if I create a new memo on my Palm in, say, the "Work"
> category I will get two categories of the name "Work" on both the Palm
> and the in the Memo Pad application. The same goes if I create a new
> memo from within MemoPad.

Same experience here.

> Any ideas how this can be remedied? Thanks.

Wait for an update from Mark/Space or revert to the original conduit?

-sjk

From miscellaneous at ohdanny.net  Tue Aug  3 00:10:38 2004
From: miscellaneous at ohdanny.net (miscellaneous@ohdanny.net)
Date: Mon Aug  2 23:11:12 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk]  Unable to sync addressbook with isync
	using MS4
In-Reply-To: <547CF3FC-E500-11D8-B06B-000A959D21FC@mac.com>
References: <547CF3FC-E500-11D8-B06B-000A959D21FC@mac.com>
Message-ID: <D73F296D-E513-11D8-A34B-003065CA9518@ohdanny.net>

Hmmm...what kind of Palm device do you have? Latest OS?

Try setting the offending conduit to "Mac overwrites handheld" and give 
that a try. It sounds like maybe your Palm address book database may be 
corrupted?


Dan M.


On Aug 2, 2004, at 8:50 PM, Juan Carlos De Le?n wrote:

> Everytime I try to sync with isync, the palm gets a fatal error and 
> crashes.  I have to do a hard reset.  It always happens when it starts 
> to synchronize the address book.  The mac keeps on going, but the Palm 
> crashes.
> Any Ideas as to what might be happening.?
>
> Thanks,
>
> JC
>
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From stefan.larsson at op.se  Tue Aug  3 09:21:09 2004
From: stefan.larsson at op.se (Stefan Larsson)
Date: Mon Aug  2 23:21:53 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] FirstClass conduits
In-Reply-To: <p0610050fbd3427ce415d@[10.0.1.23]>
References: <p0610050fbd3427ce415d@[10.0.1.23]>
Message-ID: <fc.00802d3c00acf34800802d3c00ace8e0.acf359@op.se>

All my conduits are in the folder below and all of them except my
FC-conduits shows up in the list of conduits. You can find the FirtsClass
conduits with this url,
http://www.firstclass.com/ClientDownloads/PalmSync/ if it is any help.


- - - - 
Stefan Larsson



"The Missing Sync \(Mac/Palm OS\) Discussion List"
<missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com> p? m?ndag 2 augusti 2004
vid 19.19 +0100 skrev:
>>I'm using FirstClass as my organiser but the conduits don't show up in
>>Missing Sync.
>
>I presume you mean in the list of conduits in the main window?
>
>Do other conduits show up?
>
>> Anyone with a solution to my problem
>
>Where are they located?
>
>Conduits should be in /Library/Application Support/Palm HotSync/Conduits/
>
>Brian
>
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From luke at shrimper.org.uk  Tue Aug  3 11:40:34 2004
From: luke at shrimper.org.uk (Luke Bosman)
Date: Tue Aug  3 02:40:43 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] 
	Re: Installing Missing Sync for Palm OS  v4 on 10.2.8 - Looping
In-Reply-To: <8BB52888-E4D7-11D8-A58D-000393A4DCD6@cabrini.edu>
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On 2 Aug 2004, at 23:59, Jerry Zurek wrote:

> Has the problem of the installation quitting at about file 135 been 
> solved? I had to reinstall MS 4 after reformatting the hard drive and 
> am getting into the install looping as well. I have tried it both with 
> and without MS 2 present.

I forget exactly how I resolved this problem. I think I used another 
admin user's account (create one if necessary) and installed while 
logged in as the other user.

Repairing permissions might help.

Luke

From jason at ophiochos.org.uk  Tue Aug  3 12:51:01 2004
From: jason at ophiochos.org.uk (Jason Davies)
Date: Tue Aug  3 03:47:42 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk]  Unable to sync addressbook with isync
	using MS4
In-Reply-To: <547CF3FC-E500-11D8-B06B-000A959D21FC@mac.com>
Message-ID: <r02010200-1034-0CCCA156E53B11D88197000A95D94B22@[172.191.140.111]>

>Any Ideas as to what might be happening.?


do you have a keyboard? the driver for the thin keyboard does this if
it's enabled.

From mweissen at mac.com  Tue Aug  3 15:29:35 2004
From: mweissen at mac.com (Martin von Weissenberg)
Date: Tue Aug  3 04:29:57 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk]  Installing Missing Sync for Palm OS
	v4 on 10.2.8 - Looping
In-Reply-To: <95FACCA6-E4E5-11D8-A800-000A9570181E@markspace.com>
References: <8BB52888-E4D7-11D8-A58D-000393A4DCD6@cabrini.edu>
	<95FACCA6-E4E5-11D8-A800-000A9570181E@markspace.com>
Message-ID: <65F8BB20-E540-11D8-8606-000393A91F1E@mac.com>

Hello,

I have the exact same problem; installation stops at file #135 
"resetfirewall" and then jumps to the target selection window.  I tried 
installing over Palm Desktop (the latest version, 4.2.1?), then 
subsequently made an "archive-and-install" reinstallation of Panther 
and tried installing Missing Sync again.  The problem persists.

What does resetfirewall (or the next file) do and what's so special 
about it?  Anything else I could try?

--Martin


On 3 aug 2004, at 03:39, Ken Freeman wrote:

> I've not been able to duplicate this! Are you installing over the Palm 
> Desktop/HotSync Manager software or an entirely clean/reformatted 
> 10.2.8 drive?
>
> Ken
>
> On Aug 2, 2004, at 3:59 PM, Jerry Zurek wrote:
>
>> Has the problem of the installation quitting at about file 135 been 
>> solved? I had to reinstall MS 4 after reformatting the hard drive and 
>> am getting into the install looping as well. I have tried it both 
>> with and without MS 2 present.
>>
>> ----
>> Thanks,
>> Jerry Zurek
>>
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From hflaxman at neb.rr.com  Tue Aug  3 07:43:09 2004
From: hflaxman at neb.rr.com (Harry Flaxman)
Date: Tue Aug  3 04:43:17 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk]  Unable to sync addressbook with isync
 using MS4
In-Reply-To: <r02010200-1034-0CCCA156E53B11D88197000A95D94B22@[172.191.140.111]>
References: <r02010200-1034-0CCCA156E53B11D88197000A95D94B22@[172.191.140.111]>
Message-ID: <410F7A4D.1040708@neb.rr.com>

Jason Davies wrote:

>>Any Ideas as to what might be happening.?
>>    
>>
>
>
>do you have a keyboard? the driver for the thin keyboard does this if
>it's enabled.
>
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>
Nope, no keyboard.  I have disabled one other conduit, now all I have to 
do is get the CLIE and tr? the s?nc again.

Thanks.

Harry

From chris at alumni.indiana.edu  Tue Aug  3 08:28:45 2004
From: chris at alumni.indiana.edu (Chris Wilson)
Date: Tue Aug  3 05:28:52 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] installer killing at 135
Message-ID: <A99B764A-E548-11D8-AF68-00039379A7F8@alumni.indiana.edu>

I too have experienced the installer dying at with 135 files to go. I 
was installing over v3 with 10.3 and 4.2.1 palm desktop. Doesn't matter 
if I've turned off virus stuff, been the only one logged in, etc. This 
is pretty darn frustrating. It's left me hanging for a few days now and 
I'd really like to be able to finish the installation...

Chris

From jzurek at cabrini.edu  Tue Aug  3 09:51:23 2004
From: jzurek at cabrini.edu (Jerry Zurek)
Date: Tue Aug  3 05:51:27 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] MS for Palm 4 - Installation Looping
In-Reply-To: <200408030351.i733pO3w016956@penguin.markspace.com>
References: <200408030351.i733pO3w016956@penguin.markspace.com>
Message-ID: <D323144A-E54B-11D8-BE62-000393A4DCD6@cabrini.edu>

I must correct my question. It is a newly reformatted 10.3.4 drive. I 
installed Palm Desktop/Hotsync Manager. I then redownloaded MS 2 and MS 
4. MS 2 works fine but MS 4 stops installing at item 135 and the 
original Install screen reappears.  (The same question was posted by 
two people on July 29 who asked the same question but with 10.2.8)

On Aug 2, 2004, at 11:51 PM, 
missing-sync-palmos-talk-request@lists.markspace.com wrote:

>
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2004 17:39:32 -0700
> From: Ken Freeman <kfreeman@markspace.com>
> Subject: Re: [missing-sync-palmos-talk]  Installing Missing Sync for
> 	Palm OS	v4 on 10.2.8 - Looping
> To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Palm OS\) Discussion List"
> 	<missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com>
> Message-ID: <95FACCA6-E4E5-11D8-A800-000A9570181E@markspace.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>
> I've not been able to duplicate this! Are you installing over the Palm
> Desktop/HotSync Manager software or an entirely clean/reformatted
> 10.2.8 drive?
>
> Ken
>
> On Aug 2, 2004, at 3:59 PM, Jerry Zurek wrote:
>
>> Has the problem of the installation quitting at about file 135 been
>> solved? I had to reinstall MS 4 after reformatting the hard drive and
>> am getting into the install looping as well. I have tried it both with
>> and without MS 2 present.
>>
>> ----
>> Thanks,
>> Jerry Zurek
>>

From katworley at earthlink.net  Tue Aug  3 07:29:15 2004
From: katworley at earthlink.net (Katrina Worley)
Date: Tue Aug  3 06:29:21 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] installer killing at 135
In-Reply-To: <A99B764A-E548-11D8-AF68-00039379A7F8@alumni.indiana.edu>
References: <A99B764A-E548-11D8-AF68-00039379A7F8@alumni.indiana.edu>
Message-ID: <1D522166-E551-11D8-8B41-003065715492@earthlink.net>

The only way I was able to get around this and complete the 
installation was to log in as "root".  If you have the root user 
enabled and log in as root the installation completes itself, 
suggesting to me that the problem is one of permissions.  I had a 
similar problem installing Palm Desktop.

Katrina


On Aug 3, 2004, at 5:28 AM, Chris Wilson wrote:

> I too have experienced the installer dying at with 135 files to go. I 
> was installing over v3 with 10.3 and 4.2.1 palm desktop. Doesn't 
> matter if I've turned off virus stuff, been the only one logged in, 
> etc. This is pretty darn frustrating. It's left me hanging for a few 
> days now and I'd really like to be able to finish the installation...
>
> Chris
>
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From katworley at earthlink.net  Tue Aug  3 07:30:48 2004
From: katworley at earthlink.net (Katrina Worley)
Date: Tue Aug  3 06:30:52 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] MS for Palm 4 - Installation Looping
In-Reply-To: <D323144A-E54B-11D8-BE62-000393A4DCD6@cabrini.edu>
References: <200408030351.i733pO3w016956@penguin.markspace.com>
	<D323144A-E54B-11D8-BE62-000393A4DCD6@cabrini.edu>
Message-ID: <54D876BE-E551-11D8-8B41-003065715492@earthlink.net>

try logging in as "root"... That's the only way I was able to get 
Missing Sync to get past the "reset firewall" stage.

Katrina


On Aug 3, 2004, at 5:51 AM, Jerry Zurek wrote:

> I must correct my question. It is a newly reformatted 10.3.4 drive. I 
> installed Palm Desktop/Hotsync Manager. I then redownloaded MS 2 and 
> MS 4. MS 2 works fine but MS 4 stops installing at item 135 and the 
> original Install screen reappears.  (The same question was posted by 
> two people on July 29 who asked the same question but with 10.2.8)
>
> On Aug 2, 2004, at 11:51 PM, 
> missing-sync-palmos-talk-request@lists.markspace.com wrote:
>
>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2004 17:39:32 -0700
>> From: Ken Freeman <kfreeman@markspace.com>
>> Subject: Re: [missing-sync-palmos-talk]  Installing Missing Sync for
>> 	Palm OS	v4 on 10.2.8 - Looping
>> To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Palm OS\) Discussion List"
>> 	<missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com>
>> Message-ID: <95FACCA6-E4E5-11D8-A800-000A9570181E@markspace.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>>
>> I've not been able to duplicate this! Are you installing over the Palm
>> Desktop/HotSync Manager software or an entirely clean/reformatted
>> 10.2.8 drive?
>>
>> Ken
>>
>> On Aug 2, 2004, at 3:59 PM, Jerry Zurek wrote:
>>
>>> Has the problem of the installation quitting at about file 135 been
>>> solved? I had to reinstall MS 4 after reformatting the hard drive and
>>> am getting into the install looping as well. I have tried it both 
>>> with
>>> and without MS 2 present.
>>>
>>> ----
>>> Thanks,
>>> Jerry Zurek
>>>
>
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From sgruby at markspace.com  Tue Aug  3 08:54:39 2004
From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby)
Date: Tue Aug  3 07:54:43 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] installer killing at 135
In-Reply-To: <1D522166-E551-11D8-8B41-003065715492@earthlink.net>
References: <A99B764A-E548-11D8-AF68-00039379A7F8@alumni.indiana.edu>
	<1D522166-E551-11D8-8B41-003065715492@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <0B80FFC6-E55D-11D8-BA73-000D932F4F94@markspace.com>


On Aug 3, 2004, at 6:29 AM, Katrina Worley wrote:

> The only way I was able to get around this and complete the 
> installation was to log in as "root".  If you have the root user 
> enabled and log in as root the installation completes itself, 
> suggesting to me that the problem is one of permissions.  I had a 
> similar problem installing Palm Desktop.
>
>

Did the original account you tried to install from have admin 
privileges? I've tried to reproduce this issue, but haven't seen it, so 
any additional information you can provide will help us rectify it for 
a future build.

Thanks.

--
Scott Gruby
<http://www.markspace.com/>

Please contact support@markspace.com for assistance with Mark/Space 
products.

From mweissen at mac.com  Tue Aug  3 23:28:02 2004
From: mweissen at mac.com (Martin von Weissenberg)
Date: Tue Aug  3 12:28:14 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk]  Installing Missing Sync for Palm OS
	v4 on 10.2.8 - Looping
In-Reply-To: <65F8BB20-E540-11D8-8606-000393A91F1E@mac.com>
References: <8BB52888-E4D7-11D8-A58D-000393A4DCD6@cabrini.edu>
	<95FACCA6-E4E5-11D8-A800-000A9570181E@markspace.com>
	<65F8BB20-E540-11D8-8606-000393A91F1E@mac.com>
Message-ID: <3C5FE1E8-E583-11D8-99B1-000393A91F1E@mac.com>

OK, I managed to get the installer to finish when I launched it as 
root.  Actually it's enough to open it using sudo:

   sudo open "/Volumes/Missing Sync/Missing Sync for Palm OS Installer"

The software is now installed and seems to perform as advertised. :)

--Martin


On 3 aug 2004, at 14:29, Martin von Weissenberg wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I have the exact same problem; installation stops at file #135 
> "resetfirewall" and then jumps to the target selection window.  I 
> tried installing over Palm Desktop (the latest version, 4.2.1?), then 
> subsequently made an "archive-and-install" reinstallation of Panther 
> and tried installing Missing Sync again.  The problem persists.
>
> What does resetfirewall (or the next file) do and what's so special 
> about it?  Anything else I could try?
>
> --Martin
>
>
> On 3 aug 2004, at 03:39, Ken Freeman wrote:
>
>> I've not been able to duplicate this! Are you installing over the 
>> Palm Desktop/HotSync Manager software or an entirely 
>> clean/reformatted 10.2.8 drive?
>>
>> Ken
>>
>> On Aug 2, 2004, at 3:59 PM, Jerry Zurek wrote:
>>
>>> Has the problem of the installation quitting at about file 135 been 
>>> solved? I had to reinstall MS 4 after reformatting the hard drive 
>>> and am getting into the install looping as well. I have tried it 
>>> both with and without MS 2 present.
>>>
>>> ----
>>> Thanks,
>>> Jerry Zurek
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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From katworley at earthlink.net  Tue Aug  3 15:08:14 2004
From: katworley at earthlink.net (Katrina Worley)
Date: Tue Aug  3 14:08:44 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] installer killing at 135
In-Reply-To: <0B80FFC6-E55D-11D8-BA73-000D932F4F94@markspace.com>
References: <A99B764A-E548-11D8-AF68-00039379A7F8@alumni.indiana.edu>
	<1D522166-E551-11D8-8B41-003065715492@earthlink.net>
	<0B80FFC6-E55D-11D8-BA73-000D932F4F94@markspace.com>
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On Aug 3, 2004, at 7:54 AM, Scott Gruby wrote:

>
> On Aug 3, 2004, at 6:29 AM, Katrina Worley wrote:
>
>> The only way I was able to get around this and complete the 
>> installation was to log in as "root".  If you have the root user 
>> enabled and log in as root the installation completes itself, 
>> suggesting to me that the problem is one of permissions.  I had a 
>> similar problem installing Palm Desktop.
>>
>>
>
> Did the original account you tried to install from have admin 
> privileges? I've tried to reproduce this issue, but haven't seen it, 
> so any additional information you can provide will help us rectify it 
> for a future build.

Yes-  my normal account is an admin account, but it wouldn't install- 
the installer kept looping.  Once I logged in as root it installed 
normally.

Katrina

From pantone at indy.net  Tue Aug  3 21:34:37 2004
From: pantone at indy.net (Chris)
Date: Tue Aug  3 18:34:40 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Corrupted installer?
Message-ID: <BD35A75D.172A%pantone@indy.net>

Has anyone had issues getting MS4 to run after an install?  I can install
the program without any error messages, but when I launch the program it
immediately quits before I can enter my registration code.

I've repaired disk permissions.  Run MacJanitor.  I've removed all Palm
Desktop preferences manually and re-set iSync.  I've also installed the
software under my root account and had the same thing happen.

regards
chris


From sgruby at markspace.com  Tue Aug  3 19:38:08 2004
From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby)
Date: Tue Aug  3 18:38:12 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Corrupted installer?
In-Reply-To: <BD35A75D.172A%pantone@indy.net>
References: <BD35A75D.172A%pantone@indy.net>
Message-ID: <F06FF6D8-E5B6-11D8-BA73-000D932F4F94@markspace.com>

If you have already entered your registration code once, this article  
may help:

<http://www.markspace.com/support/index.php? 
mode=view_entry&kbid=332&kbcat=15>

On Aug 3, 2004, at 6:34 PM, Chris wrote:

> Has anyone had issues getting MS4 to run after an install?  I can  
> install
> the program without any error messages, but when I launch the program  
> it
> immediately quits before I can enter my registration code.
>
> I've repaired disk permissions.  Run MacJanitor.  I've removed all Palm
> Desktop preferences manually and re-set iSync.  I've also installed the
> software under my root account and had the same thing happen.
>


--
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Please contact support@markspace.com for assistance with Mark/Space  
products.

From pantone at indy.net  Tue Aug  3 22:15:19 2004
From: pantone at indy.net (Chris)
Date: Tue Aug  3 19:15:23 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Corrupted installer?
In-Reply-To: <F06FF6D8-E5B6-11D8-BA73-000D932F4F94@markspace.com>
Message-ID: <BD35B0E7.1734%pantone@indy.net>

Unfortunately I can't even enter my registration code for the first time.
The program pops the registration window up for a fraction of a second then
quits without an error message.

regards
chris


On 8/3/04 8:38 PM, "Scott Gruby" kinda said this:

> If you have already entered your registration code once, this article
> may help:
> 
> <http://www.markspace.com/support/index.php?
> mode=view_entry&kbid=332&kbcat=15>
> 
> On Aug 3, 2004, at 6:34 PM, Chris wrote:
> 
>> Has anyone had issues getting MS4 to run after an install?  I can
>> install
>> the program without any error messages, but when I launch the program
>> it
>> immediately quits before I can enter my registration code.
>> 
>> I've repaired disk permissions.  Run MacJanitor.  I've removed all Palm
>> Desktop preferences manually and re-set iSync.  I've also installed the
>> software under my root account and had the same thing happen.
>> 
> 
> 
> --
> Scott Gruby
> <http://www.markspace.com/>
> 
> Please contact support@markspace.com for assistance with Mark/Space
> products.
> 
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From mark at marksrebnikarchitect.com  Tue Aug  3 22:01:29 2004
From: mark at marksrebnikarchitect.com (Mark Srebnik)
Date: Tue Aug  3 21:01:32 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] 
	MS Palm4 - Worked OK - Now No Go with T3 & OSX10.2.8
Message-ID: <BD35ADA9.1BF16%mark@MarkSrebnikArchitect.com>

Hi,

Recently installed MS Palm4 on my PMG4 running OSX10.2.8 to sync with my new
T3.

Worked GREAT the first few times syncing with iSync/iCal/AddressBook.

For some unknown reason, this morning when I tried to sync, got no response
at all from Mac. Tried again now and same thing, nothing happens on Mac.

Tried opening up MS4 on Mac and it opens for a second or two and then quits.
So something has gone wrong with app.

Any suggestions???

Thanks,

Mark

From miscellaneous at ohdanny.net  Tue Aug  3 23:47:26 2004
From: miscellaneous at ohdanny.net (miscellaneous@ohdanny.net)
Date: Tue Aug  3 22:48:04 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk]  MS Palm4 - Worked OK - Now No Go with
	T3 & OSX10.2.8
In-Reply-To: <BD35ADA9.1BF16%mark@MarkSrebnikArchitect.com>
References: <BD35ADA9.1BF16%mark@MarkSrebnikArchitect.com>
Message-ID: <C3EE1872-E5D9-11D8-A34B-003065CA9518@ohdanny.net>

Try unplugging the USB cable from your computer and plugging it back in 
again. If it is connected to a hub try doing the same to the hub if the 
the aforementioned does not do the trick.


Dan M.


On Aug 3, 2004, at 9:01 PM, Mark Srebnik wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Recently installed MS Palm4 on my PMG4 running OSX10.2.8 to sync with 
> my new
> T3.
>
> Worked GREAT the first few times syncing with iSync/iCal/AddressBook.
>
> For some unknown reason, this morning when I tried to sync, got no 
> response
> at all from Mac. Tried again now and same thing, nothing happens on 
> Mac.
>
> Tried opening up MS4 on Mac and it opens for a second or two and then 
> quits.
> So something has gone wrong with app.
>
> Any suggestions???
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mark
>
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From mmurray at maths.adelaide.edu.au  Wed Aug  4 19:16:43 2004
From: mmurray at maths.adelaide.edu.au (Michael Murray)
Date: Wed Aug  4 01:46:53 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk]	MS Palm4 - Worked OK - Now No Go
	with T3 &  OSX10.2.8
In-Reply-To: <BD35ADA9.1BF16%mark@MarkSrebnikArchitect.com>
References: <BD35ADA9.1BF16%mark@MarkSrebnikArchitect.com>
Message-ID: <p06110401bd3651f7a4f4@[10.0.1.3]>

>Hi,
>
>Recently installed MS Palm4 on my PMG4 running OSX10.2.8 to sync with my new
>T3.
>
>Worked GREAT the first few times syncing with iSync/iCal/AddressBook.
>
>For some unknown reason, this morning when I tried to sync, got no response
>at all from Mac. Tried again now and same thing, nothing happens on Mac.
>
>Tried opening up MS4 on Mac and it opens for a second or two and then quits.
>So something has gone wrong with app.
>
>Any suggestions???
>
>Thanks,
>
>Mark


Have you got an SD card ? If so you could try mounting it with
missing sync on the palm - that would test the USB connection.

If thats OK it sounds like the problem that was around a week ago
with corrupted preference files. You will need your rego number to
do this.  Try pulling out the
preference file in ~/Library/Preferences. Its called

com.markspace.missingsync.palmos.plist


Just drop it onto the desktop.  Now launch again and do the registration
again.  If you don't have internet access open the 
com.markspace.missingsync.palmos.plist file in a text editor and look 
for a line
like

<key>Registration Code</key>
	<string>1234567890 (Serial Number: Error, please contact s</string>

where the numbers are different. If you find a line like this replace it by

<key>Registration Code</key>
	<string>1234567890</string>


Michael

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From mmurray at maths.adelaide.edu.au  Wed Aug  4 19:19:10 2004
From: mmurray at maths.adelaide.edu.au (Michael Murray)
Date: Wed Aug  4 01:49:16 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Corrupted installer?
In-Reply-To: <BD35B0E7.1734%pantone@indy.net>
References: <BD35B0E7.1734%pantone@indy.net>
Message-ID: <p06110402bd365327ec38@[10.0.1.3]>

>Unfortunately I can't even enter my registration code for the first time.
>The program pops the registration window up for a fraction of a second then
>quits without an error message.
>
>regards
>chris


Just in case you have looked in ~/Library/Preferences for a file
called

com.markspace.missingsync.palmos.plist

It shouldn't be there if you have never installed but if it
is trash it and launch again.


Michael


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From llandrum at BabsonCapital.com  Wed Aug  4 09:30:26 2004
From: llandrum at BabsonCapital.com (Landrum, Lee)
Date: Wed Aug  4 05:30:40 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Treo 600 & PowerBook G4 (OS X v. 10.3.4)
Message-ID: <A33929D8F190234DA1626320F98092E00373FDAF@EXMBPR02.na.mmfg.net>

I have a Treo 600 phone and a PowerBook G4 running OS X (10.3.4).  I have experienced repeated problems trying to use the Palm Desktop Version 4.1 for managing my contacts, calendar, etc. and syncing with the Treo 600.  I would like a better option, which The Missing Sync for Palm OS appears to be.  However, before I purchase the product, I have a question.

Prior to downloading The Missing Sync, can I first delete the Palm Desktop Version 4.1 from my PowerBook and get rid of it entirely (or does Missing Sync require that the Palm Desktop be installed on the computer in order for it to work)?  I have all of my essential contacts, calendar, etc. information stored in duplicate in the Mac OS X "Address Book" and in "iCal" which are my preferred applications, so deleting the Palm Desktop will not affect me from the perspective of losing any data.  Thanks.

Lee

From esolot at quadnet.net  Wed Aug  4 09:39:54 2004
From: esolot at quadnet.net (Evan Solot)
Date: Wed Aug  4 05:40:12 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Treo 600 & PowerBook G4 (OS X v.
	10.3.4)
In-Reply-To: <A33929D8F190234DA1626320F98092E00373FDAF@EXMBPR02.na.mmfg.net>
Message-ID: <BD36515A.221F%esolot@quadnet.net>

i've had no trouble with my treo 600 syncing with my powerbook g4 running os
10.3.2 and the palm desktop 4.1.  perhaps the problem has to do with
incompatibility with 10.3.4.  btw, i'm not using the missing sync...

evan

> I have a Treo 600 phone and a PowerBook G4 running OS X (10.3.4).  I have
> experienced repeated problems trying to use the Palm Desktop Version 4.1 for
> managing my contacts, calendar, etc. and syncing with the Treo 600.  I would
> like a better option, which The Missing Sync for Palm OS appears to be.
> However, before I purchase the product, I have a question.
> 
> Prior to downloading The Missing Sync, can I first delete the Palm Desktop
> Version 4.1 from my PowerBook and get rid of it entirely (or does Missing Sync
> require that the Palm Desktop be installed on the computer in order for it to
> work)?  I have all of my essential contacts, calendar, etc. information stored
> in duplicate in the Mac OS X "Address Book" and in "iCal" which are my
> preferred applications, so deleting the Palm Desktop will not affect me from
> the perspective of losing any data.  Thanks.
> 
> Lee
> 
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From llandrum at BabsonCapital.com  Wed Aug  4 09:42:54 2004
From: llandrum at BabsonCapital.com (Landrum, Lee)
Date: Wed Aug  4 05:43:17 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Treo 600 & PowerBook G4 (OS X v.
 10.3.4)
Message-ID: <A33929D8F190234DA1626320F98092E00373FDB0@EXMBPR02.na.mmfg.net>

Could be a 10.3.4 issue.  Do you have an opinion on The Missing Sync product?

Lee

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Subject: Re: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Treo 600 & PowerBook G4 (OS X v.
10.3.4)


i've had no trouble with my treo 600 syncing with my powerbook g4 running os
10.3.2 and the palm desktop 4.1.  perhaps the problem has to do with
incompatibility with 10.3.4.  btw, i'm not using the missing sync...

evan

> I have a Treo 600 phone and a PowerBook G4 running OS X (10.3.4).  I have
> experienced repeated problems trying to use the Palm Desktop Version 4.1 for
> managing my contacts, calendar, etc. and syncing with the Treo 600.  I would
> like a better option, which The Missing Sync for Palm OS appears to be.
> However, before I purchase the product, I have a question.
> 
> Prior to downloading The Missing Sync, can I first delete the Palm Desktop
> Version 4.1 from my PowerBook and get rid of it entirely (or does Missing Sync
> require that the Palm Desktop be installed on the computer in order for it to
> work)?  I have all of my essential contacts, calendar, etc. information stored
> in duplicate in the Mac OS X "Address Book" and in "iCal" which are my
> preferred applications, so deleting the Palm Desktop will not affect me from
> the perspective of losing any data.  Thanks.
> 
> Lee
> 
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From mark at marksrebnikarchitect.com  Wed Aug  4 07:45:35 2004
From: mark at marksrebnikarchitect.com (Mark Srebnik)
Date: Wed Aug  4 06:45:38 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] MS Palm4 - Worked OK - Now No Go
	with T3 &  OSX10.2.8
In-Reply-To: <p06110401bd3651f7a4f4@[10.0.1.3]>
Message-ID: <BD36368F.1BF4D%mark@MarkSrebnikArchitect.com>

Hi Michael,

Thanks for your help!

Made some progress....

Tried editing plist file as you suggested.

Not clear as to what you meant by "where numbers are different". Am I
supposed to change the numbers shown?

However, I did remove the text "(Serial Number: Error, please contact..."
line and now MS4 opens up properly.

Tried syncing but nothing happens on Mac still....

Appreciate any other help!

Mark

on 8/4/04 1:46 AM, Michael Murray at mmurray@maths.adelaide.edu.au wrote:
> 
> Have you got an SD card ? If so you could try mounting it with
> missing sync on the palm - that would test the USB connection.

Not sure how you'd do that if you can't open MS4...

> If thats OK it sounds like the problem that was around a week ago
> with corrupted preference files. You will need your rego number to
> do this.  Try pulling out the
> preference file in ~/Library/Preferences. Its called
> 
> com.markspace.missingsync.palmos.plist
> 
> 
> Just drop it onto the desktop.  Now launch again and do the registration
> again.  If you don't have internet access open the
> com.markspace.missingsync.palmos.plist file in a text editor and look
> for a line
> like
> 
> <key>Registration Code</key>
> <string>1234567890 (Serial Number: Error, please contact s</string>
> 
> where the numbers are different. If you find a line like this replace it by
> 
> <key>Registration Code</key>
> <string>1234567890</string>
> 
> 
> Michael


>> Hi,
>> 
>> Recently installed MS Palm4 on my PMG4 running OSX10.2.8 to sync with my new
>> T3.
>> 
>> Worked GREAT the first few times syncing with iSync/iCal/AddressBook.
>> 
>> For some unknown reason, this morning when I tried to sync, got no response
>> at all from Mac. Tried again now and same thing, nothing happens on Mac.
>> 
>> Tried opening up MS4 on Mac and it opens for a second or two and then quits.
>> So something has gone wrong with app.
>> 
>> Any suggestions???
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Mark
> 

From mark at marksrebnikarchitect.com  Wed Aug  4 07:46:30 2004
From: mark at marksrebnikarchitect.com (Mark Srebnik)
Date: Wed Aug  4 06:46:32 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk]  MS Palm4 - Worked OK - Now No Go
	with T3 & OSX10.2.8
In-Reply-To: <C3EE1872-E5D9-11D8-A34B-003065CA9518@ohdanny.net>
Message-ID: <BD3636C6.1BF4F%mark@MarkSrebnikArchitect.com>

Thanks for your help Dan, but tried that one already...

Mark

on 8/3/04 10:47 PM, miscellaneous@ohdanny.net at miscellaneous@ohdanny.net
wrote:

> Try unplugging the USB cable from your computer and plugging it back in
> again. If it is connected to a hub try doing the same to the hub if the
> the aforementioned does not do the trick.
> 
> 
> Dan M.
> 
> 
> On Aug 3, 2004, at 9:01 PM, Mark Srebnik wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Recently installed MS Palm4 on my PMG4 running OSX10.2.8 to sync with
>> my new
>> T3.
>> 
>> Worked GREAT the first few times syncing with iSync/iCal/AddressBook.
>> 
>> For some unknown reason, this morning when I tried to sync, got no
>> response
>> at all from Mac. Tried again now and same thing, nothing happens on
>> Mac.
>> 
>> Tried opening up MS4 on Mac and it opens for a second or two and then
>> quits.
>> So something has gone wrong with app.
>> 
>> Any suggestions???
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Mark


From jzurek at cabrini.edu  Wed Aug  4 11:18:44 2004
From: jzurek at cabrini.edu (Jerry Zurek)
Date: Wed Aug  4 07:18:47 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] 
	Re: MS for Palm 4 - Installation Looping (Katrina Worley)
In-Reply-To: <200408041231.i74CV43w001544@penguin.markspace.com>
Message-ID: <BD366884.3DC3%jzurek@cabrini.edu>


On 8/4/04 8:31 AM, Katrina wrote:

> Yes-  my normal account is an admin account, but it wouldn't install-
> the installer kept looping.  Once I logged in as root it installed
> normally.
> try logging in as "root"... That's the only way I was able to get
>Missing Sync to get past the "reset firewall" stage.

> Katrina

Would you be able to explain how to log in as root? I apologize if this is a
basic question.

I am the admin, so I never log in to the computer. I only have to use my
password when I install programs.

-- 
Thanks,
Jerry Zurek


From miscellaneous at ohdanny.net  Wed Aug  4 09:54:41 2004
From: miscellaneous at ohdanny.net (miscellaneous@ohdanny.net)
Date: Wed Aug  4 08:55:15 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk]  MS Palm4 - Worked OK - Now No Go with
	T3 & OSX10.2.8
In-Reply-To: <BD3636C6.1BF4F%mark@MarkSrebnikArchitect.com>
References: <BD3636C6.1BF4F%mark@MarkSrebnikArchitect.com>
Message-ID: <99080534-E62E-11D8-A34B-003065CA9518@ohdanny.net>

Darn! If I think of anything else I'lll let ya know. Good luck.

Dan M.



On Aug 4, 2004, at 6:46 AM, Mark Srebnik wrote:

> Thanks for your help Dan, but tried that one already...
>
> Mark
>
> on 8/3/04 10:47 PM, miscellaneous@ohdanny.net at 
> miscellaneous@ohdanny.net
> wrote:
>
>> Try unplugging the USB cable from your computer and plugging it back 
>> in
>> again. If it is connected to a hub try doing the same to the hub if 
>> the
>> the aforementioned does not do the trick.
>>
>>
>> Dan M.
>>
>>
>> On Aug 3, 2004, at 9:01 PM, Mark Srebnik wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Recently installed MS Palm4 on my PMG4 running OSX10.2.8 to sync with
>>> my new
>>> T3.
>>>
>>> Worked GREAT the first few times syncing with iSync/iCal/AddressBook.
>>>
>>> For some unknown reason, this morning when I tried to sync, got no
>>> response
>>> at all from Mac. Tried again now and same thing, nothing happens on
>>> Mac.
>>>
>>> Tried opening up MS4 on Mac and it opens for a second or two and then
>>> quits.
>>> So something has gone wrong with app.
>>>
>>> Any suggestions???
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Mark
>
>
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From kfreeman at markspace.com  Wed Aug  4 09:59:04 2004
From: kfreeman at markspace.com (Ken Freeman)
Date: Wed Aug  4 08:59:11 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk]  MS Palm4 - Worked OK - Now No Go with
	T3 & OSX10.2.8
In-Reply-To: <BD35ADA9.1BF16%mark@MarkSrebnikArchitect.com>
References: <BD35ADA9.1BF16%mark@MarkSrebnikArchitect.com>
Message-ID: <35C03D38-E62F-11D8-A32C-000A9570181E@markspace.com>

This article may help:

<http://www.markspace.com/support/index.php? 
mode=view_entry&kbid=332&kbcat=15>

Ken

On Aug 3, 2004, at 9:01 PM, Mark Srebnik wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Recently installed MS Palm4 on my PMG4 running OSX10.2.8 to sync with  
> my new
> T3.
>
> Worked GREAT the first few times syncing with iSync/iCal/AddressBook.
>
> For some unknown reason, this morning when I tried to sync, got no  
> response
> at all from Mac. Tried again now and same thing, nothing happens on  
> Mac.
>
> Tried opening up MS4 on Mac and it opens for a second or two and then  
> quits.
> So something has gone wrong with app.
>
> Any suggestions???
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mark
>
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> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com
> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can  
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>

From kfreeman at markspace.com  Wed Aug  4 10:16:35 2004
From: kfreeman at markspace.com (Ken Freeman)
Date: Wed Aug  4 09:16:39 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Treo 600 & PowerBook G4 (OS X v.
	10.3.4)
In-Reply-To: <A33929D8F190234DA1626320F98092E00373FDAF@EXMBPR02.na.mmfg.net>
References: <A33929D8F190234DA1626320F98092E00373FDAF@EXMBPR02.na.mmfg.net>
Message-ID: <A847F58E-E631-11D8-A32C-000A9570181E@markspace.com>

The Missing Sync for Palm OS replaces the HotSync Manager component of 
the Palm Desktop 4.x software. If The Missing Sync installer finds the 
HotSync Manger software installed it will actually remove HotSync 
Manager and a few other components, but it will leave the Palm Desktop 
PIM software, conduits and user data for those who may want to continue 
using it for their PIM data.

To more directly answer your question, you can delete the Palm Desktop 
software if you want (I recommend using their installer uninstall 
option). The Missing Sync for Palm OS version 4 has no dependencies on 
the Palm Desktop software.  Since you plan to sync with the Mac OS X 
Address Book and iCal (via the iSync Palm conduit) you may as well 
delete the Palm Desktop software.

Ken

P.S. My personal device is a Treo 600 and I too sync with the Mac OS X 
Address Book and iCal. Of course, since I work form Mark/Space I'm 
biased towards The Missing Sync. :-)

On Aug 4, 2004, at 5:30 AM, Landrum, Lee wrote:

> I have a Treo 600 phone and a PowerBook G4 running OS X (10.3.4).  I 
> have experienced repeated problems trying to use the Palm Desktop 
> Version 4.1 for managing my contacts, calendar, etc. and syncing with 
> the Treo 600.  I would like a better option, which The Missing Sync 
> for Palm OS appears to be.  However, before I purchase the product, I 
> have a question.
>
> Prior to downloading The Missing Sync, can I first delete the Palm 
> Desktop Version 4.1 from my PowerBook and get rid of it entirely (or 
> does Missing Sync require that the Palm Desktop be installed on the 
> computer in order for it to work)?  I have all of my essential 
> contacts, calendar, etc. information stored in duplicate in the Mac OS 
> X "Address Book" and in "iCal" which are my preferred applications, so 
> deleting the Palm Desktop will not affect me from the perspective of 
> losing any data.  Thanks.
>
> Lee
>
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> missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com
> Unsubcribing information, subscription options and list archives can 
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>

From brian_hall at markspace.com  Wed Aug  4 10:26:19 2004
From: brian_hall at markspace.com (Brian Hall)
Date: Wed Aug  4 09:27:06 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Treo 600 & PowerBook G4 (OS X v.
 10.3.4)
In-Reply-To: 
 <A33929D8F190234DA1626320F98092E00373FDAF@EXMBPR02.na.mmfg.net>
References: <A33929D8F190234DA1626320F98092E00373FDAF@EXMBPR02.na.mmfg.net>
Message-ID: <p06100510bd36be4575ea@[10.0.1.47]>

>Prior to downloading The Missing Sync, can I first delete the Palm Desktop
>Version 4.1 from my PowerBook and get rid of it entirely (or does Missing
>Sync require that the Palm Desktop be installed on the computer in order
>for it to work)?  I have all of my essential contacts, calendar, etc.
>information stored in duplicate in the Mac OS X "Address Book" and in
>"iCal" which are my preferred applications, so deleting the Palm Desktop
>will not affect me from the perspective of losing any data.  Thanks.

If you plan to continue to use the Palm Desktop PIM application, or you
have a number of 3rd party conduits, you'd be better to install over Palm
Desktop. If you are absolutely sure you won't be using Palm Desktop as a
PIM, nor that you have any 3rd party conduits that you use, you could
completely remove Palm Desktop. It is probably safer to install over Palm
Desktop and then trash the PIM application, help files, etc if you know you
won't be using them.

Short answer: You can do either. (Uninstall PDT then install MS, or install
MS over PDT).

Brian

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From brian_hall at markspace.com  Wed Aug  4 10:29:59 2004
From: brian_hall at markspace.com (Brian Hall)
Date: Wed Aug  4 09:30:41 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] How to force conduit usage
In-Reply-To: <BD335F38.94B6%mail@wlinkw.com>
References: <BD335F38.94B6%mail@wlinkw.com>
Message-ID: <p06100511bd36beb99116@[10.0.1.47]>

>Just installed Missing Sync v4. Fortunately or unfortunately, it seemed to
>be too smart and noted that I had multiple conduits that can handle the Memo
>database (Entourage and Now-Up-to-Date), and is forcing me to choose only
>one. However, Under the old Palm Hotsync Manager and by bypassing the
>Notifier, I was able to use NUTD conduit to Hotsync my Datebook database
>while Entourage conduit for Memo.
>
>Is there a way to bypass Missing Sync 4's restriction on this? I note

Not at this time. If you sync to more than one PIM app there is the very
real possibility that you could cause fields/data to dissapear and/or
record to show up as duplicates as you edit them in each of the various
places and the data flows back and forth between >2 places that may or may
not support all the fields that the others do.

We are doing research into just how bad this is with the more common
configurations people want to use (iSync and Entourage at the same time for
example).

If you *really* want to do this, you could set up one Mac OS X user with
one set of conduits, and another Mac OS X user with another set of conduits
(we support conduits located in the local/user directory as well as
conduits located in the global/system conduits directory).

Brian

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From brian_hall at markspace.com  Wed Aug  4 10:30:19 2004
From: brian_hall at markspace.com (Brian Hall)
Date: Wed Aug  4 09:30:57 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] How to force conduit usage
In-Reply-To: <BD335F38.94B6%mail@wlinkw.com>
References: <BD335F38.94B6%mail@wlinkw.com>
Message-ID: <p06100512bd36bf8ac21b@[10.0.1.47]>

>there's no longer a "Notifier" in the Palm Hotsync folder. Any ideas?

I don't believe we have the "Notifier" concept in this version of Missing Sync.

b

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From lists at mostrom.pp.se  Wed Aug  4 20:45:11 2004
From: lists at mostrom.pp.se (Jan Erik =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mostr=F6m?=)
Date: Wed Aug  4 10:45:25 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Group Organizer conduit
Message-ID: <r02010200-1034-095F1FE3E63E11D88600000A95C8DD62@[192.168.2.1]>

Does anyone know why the GO conduit doesn't work, considering that PO is
listed as compatible?

                            jem
-- 
Jan Erik Mostr?m   www.mostrom.pp.se

From jvlombardi at sbcglobal.net  Wed Aug  4 12:01:21 2004
From: jvlombardi at sbcglobal.net (John Vincent Lombardi)
Date: Wed Aug  4 11:01:24 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Computer Won't Sleep
Message-ID: <4AF117E4-E640-11D8-B2DE-0003938BE6D6@sbcglobal.net>

Hello,

The Missing Sync Monitor application, and the application itself when 
running, prevent my machine from going to sleep properly. Specifically, 
the hard drive spins down, the display blanks, but the CPU doesn't 
sleep. On top of that, it is impossible to recover the machine without 
a restart.

This problem occurs on my Quicksilver 933 but not my wife's iMac. Any 
thoughts or similar experiences?

John

From deleonju at mac.com  Wed Aug  4 15:21:28 2004
From: deleonju at mac.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Juan_Carlos_De_Le=F3n?=)
Date: Wed Aug  4 11:21:51 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk]  Unable to sync addressbook
Message-ID: <1A3506D3-E643-11D8-A444-000A959D21FC@mac.com>

I have a T3 and a Powerbook 17" rev.A
I really don't want to overwrite the palm because I've made changes to 
the addresses and I need to Sync them back to the computer and .mac
I don't have an external keyboard either.
It happens over bluetooth, using the cable or using the cradle.

JC

> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2004 23:10:38 -0700
> From: miscellaneous@ohdanny.net
> Subject: Re: [missing-sync-palmos-talk]  Unable to sync addressbook
> 	with isync	using MS4
> To: "The Missing Sync \(Mac/Palm OS\) Discussion List"
> 	<missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com>
> Message-ID: <D73F296D-E513-11D8-A34B-003065CA9518@ohdanny.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Hmmm...what kind of Palm device do you have? Latest OS?
>
> Try setting the offending conduit to "Mac overwrites handheld" and give
> that a try. It sounds like maybe your Palm address book database may be
> corrupted?
>
>
> Dan M.

From hflaxman at neb.rr.com  Wed Aug  4 15:18:31 2004
From: hflaxman at neb.rr.com (Harry Flaxman)
Date: Wed Aug  4 12:18:39 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Data is going nowhere
Message-ID: <41113687.5050708@neb.rr.com>

I just noticed after a couple of syncs with Missing Sync 4, that my data 
isn't going to OSX's utils or to the Palm Desktop 4.2.1's apps.  I shut 
down one conflicting conduit that should have made the addressbook show 
up somewhere, but it didn't.  Where exactly are the logs that show what 
is going on?

Thanks.

Harry

From ghenshaw at altera.com  Wed Aug  4 16:39:36 2004
From: ghenshaw at altera.com (Glenn Henshaw)
Date: Wed Aug  4 12:39:42 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: 2.0 -> 4 upg
In-Reply-To: <p0610052fbd2f1c2a8f5d@[10.0.1.7]>
Message-ID: <BD36B3B8.15590%ghenshaw@altera.com>

  I'm in the same boat. I felt that the upgrade was worth supporting so I
paid anyways.


On 7/29/04 5:28 PM, "Brian Hall" <brian_hall@markspace.com> wrote:

>> Upgrade for purchases since late June???
>> 
>> I bought v2.0 at the end of April...any chance of throwing me a bone
>> at a free upgrade to 4.0.
> 
> FWIW, 2.0 was $29.95 and 3.0 is $39.95, so it ends up being a $10 delta
> and
> we packed ALOT of new stuff in this version... This was the single
> largest
> project (time, effort, expense, scope) we have ever taken on.
> 
> Brian

-- 
Glenn Henshaw
Altera Ottawa Technology Center
Phone: (613) 591-6702                 Email: ghenshaw@altera.com



From katworley at earthlink.net  Wed Aug  4 14:27:56 2004
From: katworley at earthlink.net (Katrina Worley)
Date: Wed Aug  4 13:28:07 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk]  Re: MS for Palm 4 - Installation
	Looping (Katrina Worley)
In-Reply-To: <BD366884.3DC3%jzurek@cabrini.edu>
References: <BD366884.3DC3%jzurek@cabrini.edu>
Message-ID: <C4D1EA8E-E654-11D8-8B98-003065715492@earthlink.net>


On Aug 4, 2004, at 7:18 AM, Jerry Zurek wrote:
>>
> Would you be able to explain how to log in as root? I apologize if 
> this is a
> basic question.
>
> I am the admin, so I never log in to the computer. I only have to use 
> my
> password when I install programs.

It's not difficult, but you do need to be aware that the root user has 
NO restrictions on what they can or can't do...  it's possible to 
REALLY screw up your system by mucking around in root.  That having 
been said, I've used root as a way to bypass installation problems in 
the past, and it worked for me this time again.  My approach is to log 
in as root, do the install and log out of root and back into my normal 
user account as soon as possible.

To log in as root, the first thing you have to do is to enable the root 
user.  Open "Netinfo Manager"...  it's in your Utilities folder.  Under 
the "Security" menu is a choice "enable root user".  You'll get a 
screen that asks for a root user password.  DON'T make this the same as 
your normal user password- you don't want to accidently log into the 
wrong account. Make sure the installer is in an easy to find place- I 
use the "shared user" folder.


Log out of your normal account, and in the login window type "root" as 
the user you want to log into (no punctuation, just the word), and the 
password you chose.  Now, once you're logged in, try running the 
installer.  Once the installer is finished, you'll need to restart, so 
you should be back in your normal user.

HTH-

Katrina


From spons at swbell.net  Wed Aug  4 16:32:47 2004
From: spons at swbell.net (Mark Sponsler)
Date: Wed Aug  4 13:32:52 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Re: DayLite and Vindigo
In-Reply-To: <200408042020.i74KKO3x019383@penguin.markspace.com>
References: <200408042020.i74KKO3x019383@penguin.markspace.com>
Message-ID: <72869E4C-E655-11D8-84E8-000D9352062E@swbell.net>

Any chance for the 4.0 working with MarkeCircle's DayLite and Vindigo? 
I'll be happy to upgrade once they're working.
Thanks,
Mark

On Aug 4, 2004, at 3:20 PM, 
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>> there's no longer a "Notifier" in the Palm Hotsync folder. Any ideas?
>
> I don't believe we have the "Notifier" concept in this version of 
> Missing Sync.
>
> b
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> From: Jan ErikMostr?m<lists@mostrom.pp.se>
> Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Group Organizer conduit
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> Does anyone know why the GO conduit doesn't work, considering that PO 
> is
> listed as compatible?
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 11:01:21 -0700
> From: John Vincent Lombardi <jvlombardi@sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Computer Won't Sleep
> To: missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com
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> Hello,
>
> The Missing Sync Monitor application, and the application itself when
> running, prevent my machine from going to sleep properly. Specifically,
> the hard drive spins down, the display blanks, but the CPU doesn't
> sleep. On top of that, it is impossible to recover the machine without
> a restart.
>
> This problem occurs on my Quicksilver 933 but not my wife's iMac. Any
> thoughts or similar experiences?
>
> John
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 14:21:28 -0400
> From: Juan Carlos De Le?n<deleonju@mac.com>
> Subject: Re: [missing-sync-palmos-talk]  Unable to sync addressbook
> To: missing-sync-palmos-talk@lists.markspace.com
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> I have a T3 and a Powerbook 17" rev.A
> I really don't want to overwrite the palm because I've made changes to
> the addresses and I need to Sync them back to the computer and .mac
> I don't have an external keyboard either.
> It happens over bluetooth, using the cable or using the cradle.
>
> JC
>
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2004 23:10:38 -0700
>> From: miscellaneous@ohdanny.net
>> Subject: Re: [missing-sync-palmos-talk]  Unable to sync addressbook
>> 	with isync	using MS4
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>>
>> Hmmm...what kind of Palm device do you have? Latest OS?
>>
>> Try setting the offending conduit to "Mac overwrites handheld" and 
>> give
>> that a try. It sounds like maybe your Palm address book database may 
>> be
>> corrupted?
>>
>>
>> Dan M.
>
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From kfreeman at markspace.com  Wed Aug  4 15:09:28 2004
From: kfreeman at markspace.com (Ken Freeman)
Date: Wed Aug  4 14:09:34 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Data is going nowhere
In-Reply-To: <41113687.5050708@neb.rr.com>
References: <41113687.5050708@neb.rr.com>
Message-ID: <926FD80F-E65A-11D8-A32C-000A9570181E@markspace.com>

The sync log can be viewed by hitting Command-L from within Missing 
Sync.

What Mac OS are you using (10.2.8 or 10.3.4)? What conduits do you have 
installed/enabled? Have you checked the individual conduit settings? 
What handheld do you have?

Ken

On Aug 4, 2004, at 12:18 PM, Harry Flaxman wrote:

> I just noticed after a couple of syncs with Missing Sync 4, that my 
> data isn't going to OSX's utils or to the Palm Desktop 4.2.1's apps.  
> I shut down one conflicting conduit that should have made the 
> addressbook show up somewhere, but it didn't.  Where exactly are the 
> logs that show what is going on?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Harry
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From laudema at free.fr  Thu Aug  5 00:10:03 2004
From: laudema at free.fr (LD)
Date: Wed Aug  4 14:10:12 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Treo 600 & PowerBook G4 (OS X v.
	10.3.4)
In-Reply-To: <A847F58E-E631-11D8-A32C-000A9570181E@markspace.com>
References: <A33929D8F190234DA1626320F98092E00373FDAF@EXMBPR02.na.mmfg.net>
	<A847F58E-E631-11D8-A32C-000A9570181E@markspace.com>
Message-ID: <A75129CC-E65A-11D8-9956-000393A95684@free.fr>


Le 4 ao?t 04, ? 18:16, Ken Freeman a ?crit :
> Ken
>
> P.S. My personal device is a Treo 600 and I too sync with the Mac OS X 
> Address Book and iCal. Of course, since I work form Mark/Space I'm 
> biased towards The Missing Sync. :-)

Well, I am used to Palm Desktop, but not fixed to it, so I thought it 
would be easier for me to manage with Missing Sync via ICal and had a 
look at it to see why I did not "switch" from the beginning. I remember 
...
For instance create a new appointement and find the way to put the name 
from an existing person of the adress book, I can just invit him (or 
her). In Palm Desktop just click on the button and choose new (m?mo, 
appointment, to do ..)
Another thing is the (very) short spent time in my appointments : about 
10 minutes (I'm in care business and that's near the time for an 
injection), impossible to change the value of 1 hour default in ICal, 
access via preferences in Palm Desktop ..
Another one ? In repeating events, ICal doesnt not permit things like 
"first wednesday of every two months" ...

So, is it possible to keep "Missing Sync for Palm OS" just for web 
stuff and use my old Palm Desktop as usual ?

Install back Palm Desktop will it be enough to discard "Missing Sync 
for Palm OS" from any more synchronisation ?

Laurent Demaret
Treo 600 PowerMac G4 (biproc 500) OS 10.3.4

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From brian_hall at markspace.com  Wed Aug  4 15:16:01 2004
From: brian_hall at markspace.com (Brian Hall)
Date: Wed Aug  4 14:16:49 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] Data is going nowhere
In-Reply-To: <41113687.5050708@neb.rr.com>
References: <41113687.5050708@neb.rr.com>
Message-ID: <p0610051bbd3702706fea@[10.0.1.47]>

>I just noticed after a couple of syncs with Missing Sync 4, that my data
>isn't going to OSX's utils or to the Palm Desktop 4.2.1's apps.  I shut
>down one conflicting conduit that should have made the addressbook show
>up somewhere, but it didn't.  Where exactly are the logs that show what
>is going on?

Pick "Sync Log" (command-L) from the missing sync application.

You can get additional detail (but it will slow down the sync) if you also
turn on "Show more details in log" checkbox in preferences.

Brian

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From mmurray at maths.adelaide.edu.au  Thu Aug  5 07:51:38 2004
From: mmurray at maths.adelaide.edu.au (Michael Murray)
Date: Wed Aug  4 14:21:44 2004
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-talk] MS Palm4 - Worked OK - Now No Go
 with  T3 &  OSX10.2.8
In-Reply-To: <BD36368F.1BF4D%mark@MarkSrebnikArchitect.com>
References: <BD36368F.1BF4D%mark@MarkSrebnikArchitect.com>
Message-ID: <p06110413bd3703b0de34@[10.0.1.3]>

>Hi Michael,
>
>Thanks for your help!
>
>Made some progress....
>
>Tried editing plist file as you suggested.
>
>Not clear as to what you meant by "where numbers are different". Am I
>supposed to change the numbers shown?


Hi Mark

Sorry I meant that your numbers will be different to the ones I had
listed. You just need to remove the text -- which you did.

Michael


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