From xorandor at gmail.com  Mon Sep  4 20:11:23 2006
From: xorandor at gmail.com (Joe Goh)
Date: Mon Sep  4 20:11:13 2006
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-dev-talk] Is this a bug in CoreData,
	Palm HotSync, or my app?
Message-ID: <32b179b00609042011w9af5743xb5452150c694831a@mail.gmail.com>

Hi everyone,

I've recently started testing my conduit that uses CoreData using
Palm's HotSync and I have found a bug when calling
NSPersistentStoreCoordinator initWithManagedObjectModel.  The conduit
works flawlessly under Missing Sync.

A little bit of background: All Cocoa functionality is placed in a
bundle and loaded at runtime from Carbon.

Here's a snippet of the code:
// ---- CODE SNIPPET BEGIN ---- //
// Initializing managed object model
mom = managedObjectModel();

// Printing out the descriptions seem to indicate that everything is fine
NSArray *entities = [mom entities];
int i;
for (i = 0; i < [entities count]; i++)
    NSLog(@"%@", [entities objectAtIndex:i];

// Exception thrown here
psc = [[NSPersistentStoreCoordinator alloc]initWithManagedObjectModel:mom];
// ---- CODE SNIPPET END ---- //

The error printed in the console is:
*** Uncaught exception: <NSUnknownKeyException> [<NSCFArray 0x39a100>
valueForUndefinedKey:]: this class is not key value coding-compliant
for the key name.

Because this causes a crash in HotSync, here's the relevant log from
the Crash Reporter.
********* BEGIN CRASH REPORT ****************
Thread 3 Crashed:
0   com.apple.Foundation           	0x9296e120 _NSRaiseError + 264
1   com.apple.Foundation           	0x92a05db4
-[NSObject(NSKeyValueCoding) valueForUndefinedKey:] + 256
2   com.apple.Foundation           	0x929b027c _NSGetUsingKeyValueGetter + 76
3   com.apple.Foundation           	0x92a0699c
-[NSArray(NSKeyValueCoding) valueForKey:] + 484
4   com.apple.CoreData             	0x940b717c
-[NSManagedObjectModel(_NSInternalMethods)
_createCachesAndOptimizeState] + 496
5   com.apple.CoreData             	0x940b6eb4
-[NSPersistentStoreCoordinator initWithManagedObjectModel:] + 204
6   ...story.conduitcoredatabundle 	0x04670810
persistentStoreCoordinator + 724 (WrappedMethods.m:138)
7   ...story.conduitcoredatabundle 	0x046709d4 managedObjectContext +
92 (WrappedMethods.m:172)
8   ...story.conduitcoredatabundle 	0x0467263c access_core_data + 440
(WrappedMethods.m:570)
9   ...keestory.funkeestoryconduit 	0x046567b0 OpenConduitCarbon + 616
(FunkeeStoryConduit.cp:342)
10  Conduit Manager                	0x00415290 0x405000 + 66192
11  Conduit Manager                	0x00415f30 0x405000 + 69424
12  Conduit Manager                	0x00415b6c 0x405000 + 68460
13  Conduit Manager                	0x00417004 0x405000 + 73732
14  Conduit Manager                	0x0040f484 0x405000 + 42116
15  Conduit Manager                	0x0041b680 0x405000 + 91776
16  Conduit Manager                	0x0047249c DoEntry__7LThreadFPv + 60
17  ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 	0x90bf0fac InvokeThreadEntryUPP + 24
18  ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 	0x90bf0bcc CooperativeThread + 220
19  libSystem.B.dylib              	0x9002b508 _pthread_body + 96
********* END CRASH REPORT ****************

Has anyone out there encountered anything similar before, or have some
kind of clue why this is happening, and why it only happens using
Palm's HotSync and not on Missing Sync?  Or is this bug only relevant
to CoreData and i'm better off posting on a list like CocoaDev?

Thanks!
Joe
From xorandor at gmail.com  Wed Sep  6 05:25:02 2006
From: xorandor at gmail.com (Joe Goh)
Date: Wed Sep  6 05:24:52 2006
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-dev-talk] Re: Is this a bug in CoreData,
	Palm HotSync, or my app?
In-Reply-To: <32b179b00609042011w9af5743xb5452150c694831a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <32b179b00609042011w9af5743xb5452150c694831a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <32b179b00609060525u6e38d389o95e54fb5f6ff9ddc@mail.gmail.com>

On 9/5/06, Joe Goh <xorandor@gmail.com> wrote:
> Has anyone out there encountered anything similar before, or have some
> kind of clue why this is happening, and why it only happens using
> Palm's HotSync and not on Missing Sync?  Or is this bug only relevant
> to CoreData and i'm better off posting on a list like CocoaDev?

I have a feeling now that this bug is related to CFM applications.
Not only is this bug not occuring under Missing Sync, when I tried to
just use a standard Carbon application to load my Cocoa/CoreData
bundle, it works fine there too.

I'm now trying to narrow it down to either this bug being a
CFM-related issue or some Palm HotSync issue.  Does anyone have access
to CodeWarrior and have a few minutes to spare?  I have prepared the
project files, and all that is needed to test it is to compile it as a
CFM app and run it.  If you do, please email me off the list and i'll
let you know where to download the project.

There is of course the other way, which is to drop support for Palm
HotSync'ing entirely and make Missing Sync part of my app's minimum
requirements, but i'm afraid that this additional cost will deter some
of my potential customers.. :-/

Joe
From sgruby at markspace.com  Wed Sep  6 07:43:46 2006
From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby)
Date: Wed Sep  6 07:43:40 2006
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-dev-talk] Re: Is this a bug in CoreData,
	Palm HotSync, or my app?
In-Reply-To: <32b179b00609060525u6e38d389o95e54fb5f6ff9ddc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <32b179b00609042011w9af5743xb5452150c694831a@mail.gmail.com>
	<32b179b00609060525u6e38d389o95e54fb5f6ff9ddc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <114002A2-B9AE-4799-8B29-6CAD87BD65B2@markspace.com>


On Sep 6, 2006, at 5:25 AM, Joe Goh wrote:

>
> There is of course the other way, which is to drop support for Palm
> HotSync'ing entirely and make Missing Sync part of my app's minimum
> requirements, but i'm afraid that this additional cost will deter some
> of my potential customers.. :-/
>

We'd be more than happy to work with you if you go down the route of  
requiring Missing Sync; we have a store where we sell third party  
applications that is available from within the application as well as  
from our website. Remember that Missing Sync runs natively on Intel  
and for those customers (like me) that refuse to run PowerPC  
applications on Intel machines will want to use Missing Sync.  
Development, in my opinion, is much easier writing for Missing Sync  
as you can write and debug Cocoa conduits without having to use a  
middleman bundle to load Cocoa.

--
Scott Gruby
Mark/Space, Inc.
<http://www.markspace.com/>

Please visit <http://www.markspace.com/support/> for assistance with  
Mark/Space products.


From xorandor at gmail.com  Sun Sep 10 21:01:32 2006
From: xorandor at gmail.com (Joe Goh)
Date: Sun Sep 10 21:01:21 2006
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-dev-talk] Re: Is this a bug in CoreData,
	Palm HotSync, or my app?
In-Reply-To: <32b179b00609060525u6e38d389o95e54fb5f6ff9ddc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <32b179b00609042011w9af5743xb5452150c694831a@mail.gmail.com>
	<32b179b00609060525u6e38d389o95e54fb5f6ff9ddc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <32b179b00609102101r6177ea70oe516f06cc57f50f5@mail.gmail.com>

On 9/6/06, Joe Goh <xorandor@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Has anyone out there encountered anything similar before, or have some
> > kind of clue why this is happening, and why it only happens using
> > Palm's HotSync and not on Missing Sync?  Or is this bug only relevant
> > to CoreData and i'm better off posting on a list like CocoaDev?

A solution has been found!  So i'm now pleased to state that conduits
that use Core Data pose no problems on either Palm HotSync or Missing
Sync.  The trick is, you must implement a category for NSArray
valueForKey: when the conduit is running under Palm HotSync.

Hope this piece of information to someone out there,
Cheers!
Joe
From mdecaro at comcast.net  Sat Sep 23 10:34:21 2006
From: mdecaro at comcast.net (Matt DeCaro)
Date: Sat Sep 23 10:34:24 2006
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-dev-talk] Can't debug
Message-ID: <4FA0041B-7F4A-44E7-9BCB-5CB8E3B5CF62@comcast.net>

I have compiled the sample carbon conduit.  I followed the directions  
given, and there were several issues.

When I tried to debug the development product, I get the dialog that  
indicates that it is a PPC file.  I verified this in the info of the  
file.  Interestingly the Deployment file was Intel?  I changed  
settings on the development to fix that.

The real problem is he it will not debug!   It executes fine, I can  
se it on the Missing Sync screen.  I have a breakpoint set in the  
event handler for when the OK key is hit.  No code ever shows in the  
debugger and it never stops where it should.  Any clues as to why I  
can't debug?



__________________
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From eshapiro at markspace.com  Sat Sep 23 12:12:44 2006
From: eshapiro at markspace.com (Eric Shapiro)
Date: Sat Sep 23 12:12:01 2006
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-dev-talk] Can't debug
In-Reply-To: <4FA0041B-7F4A-44E7-9BCB-5CB8E3B5CF62@comcast.net>
References: <4FA0041B-7F4A-44E7-9BCB-5CB8E3B5CF62@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <BE11F49D-5BEB-46E4-AAE1-DCD0AF12F36F@markspace.com>

On Sep 23, 2006, at 1:34 PM, Matt DeCaro wrote:

> When I tried to debug the development product, I get the dialog  
> that indicates that it is a PPC file.  I verified this in the info  
> of the file.  Interestingly the Deployment file was Intel?  I  
> changed settings on the development to fix that.

This is the default for Xcode projects. Development builds are for  
"current computer's architecture" and Deployment builds are  
Universal. You can change it, but then the compile/debug turnaround  
time is slower.

> The real problem is he it will not debug!   It executes fine, I can  
> se it on the Missing Sync screen.  I have a breakpoint set in the  
> event handler for when the OK key is hit.  No code ever shows in  
> the debugger and it never stops where it should.  Any clues as to  
> why I can't debug?

I'll let Scott reply to this one since I haven't worked on the Palm  
product in a long time. Have you "attached" to The Missing Sync  
process using Xcode's debug menu?

  -Eric Shapiro

-----------------------------------------------
Eric Shapiro             Mark/Space Engineering
-----------------------------------------------


From sgruby at markspace.com  Sat Sep 23 15:57:19 2006
From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby)
Date: Sat Sep 23 15:56:44 2006
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-dev-talk] Can't debug
In-Reply-To: <4FA0041B-7F4A-44E7-9BCB-5CB8E3B5CF62@comcast.net>
References: <4FA0041B-7F4A-44E7-9BCB-5CB8E3B5CF62@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <AAC93F8C-883F-48BC-8377-DAAF91633988@markspace.com>


On Sep 23, 2006, at 10:34 AM, Matt DeCaro wrote:

> I have compiled the sample carbon conduit.  I followed the  
> directions given, and there were several issues.
>
> When I tried to debug the development product, I get the dialog  
> that indicates that it is a PPC file.  I verified this in the info  
> of the file.  Interestingly the Deployment file was Intel?  I  
> changed settings on the development to fix that.
>
> The real problem is he it will not debug!   It executes fine, I can  
> se it on the Missing Sync screen.  I have a breakpoint set in the  
> event handler for when the OK key is hit.  No code ever shows in  
> the debugger and it never stops where it should.  Any clues as to  
> why I can't debug?
>

Did you follow the instructions contained in our document at: <http:// 
www.markspace.com/developer/Writing_Conduits_with_Xcode.pdf>?

--
Scott Gruby
Mark/Space, Inc.
<http://www.markspace.com/>

Please visit <http://www.markspace.com/support/> for assistance with  
Mark/Space products.


From mdecaro at comcast.net  Sat Sep 23 17:50:53 2006
From: mdecaro at comcast.net (Matt DeCaro)
Date: Sat Sep 23 17:51:00 2006
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-dev-talk] Re: Can't debug
In-Reply-To: <200609231900.k8NJ0Snn009855@sparrow.markspace.com>
References: <200609231900.k8NJ0Snn009855@sparrow.markspace.com>
Message-ID: <BFDE937C-DDBB-47D9-AAA5-A2894FFD043F@comcast.net>


I followed all of the directions (I think).

I created the Custom Executables, I used finder to make an alias to  
the SampleConduit.plugin in the build tree in /Library/ 
Application.... etc.

I then hit Debug Executable.  Missing sync is started.  I can change  
the conduit settings, but the debugger won't 'kick in'.  It remains  
blank.  If I pause the debugger, it commonly  stops at a routine  
called 'mach_msg'  or mach_msg_trap'.

Is there anything else I need to do?  Eric Shapiro mentioned  
Attaching to Mising Sync, I tried this to no avail.


On Sep 23, 2006, at 10:34 AM, Matt DeCaro wrote:

 > I have compiled the sample carbon conduit.  I followed the
 > directions given, and there were several issues.
 >
 > When I tried to debug the development product, I get the dialog
 > that indicates that it is a PPC file.  I verified this in the info
 > of the file.  Interestingly the Deployment file was Intel?  I
 > changed settings on the development to fix that.
 >
 > The real problem is he it will not debug!   It executes fine, I can
 > se it on the Missing Sync screen.  I have a breakpoint set in the
 > event handler for when the OK key is hit.  No code ever shows in
 > the debugger and it never stops where it should.  Any clues as to
 > why I can't debug?
 >

Did you follow the instructions contained in our document at: <http://
www.markspace.com/developer/Writing_Conduits_with_Xcode.pdf>?

--
Scott Gruby
Mark/Space, Inc.
<http://www.markspace.com/>

__________________
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From eshapiro at markspace.com  Sat Sep 23 19:31:31 2006
From: eshapiro at markspace.com (Eric Shapiro)
Date: Sat Sep 23 19:30:51 2006
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-dev-talk] Re: Can't debug
In-Reply-To: <BFDE937C-DDBB-47D9-AAA5-A2894FFD043F@comcast.net>
References: <200609231900.k8NJ0Snn009855@sparrow.markspace.com>
	<BFDE937C-DDBB-47D9-AAA5-A2894FFD043F@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <2460053F-BE39-4321-8A14-4AE291D140E1@markspace.com>

On Sep 23, 2006, at 8:50 PM, Matt DeCaro wrote:

> I created the Custom Executables, I used finder to make an alias to  
> the SampleConduit.plugin in the build tree in /Library/ 
> Application.... etc.

I seem to remember using the "ln" command-line tool rather than  
Finder aliases. Not sure if this matters, but it's worth a shot.

Something like:

ln -s path-to-SampleConduit.plugin "/Library/Applications/Missing  
Sync for Palm OS/Plugins/SampleConduit.plugin"

  -Eric

-----------------------------------------------
Eric Shapiro             eshapiro@markspace.com
-----------------------------------------------


From eshapiro at markspace.com  Sat Sep 23 19:34:27 2006
From: eshapiro at markspace.com (Eric Shapiro)
Date: Sat Sep 23 19:33:43 2006
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-dev-talk] Re: Can't debug
In-Reply-To: <2460053F-BE39-4321-8A14-4AE291D140E1@markspace.com>
References: <200609231900.k8NJ0Snn009855@sparrow.markspace.com>
	<BFDE937C-DDBB-47D9-AAA5-A2894FFD043F@comcast.net>
	<2460053F-BE39-4321-8A14-4AE291D140E1@markspace.com>
Message-ID: <899BEBA9-3CBD-46C2-A620-05B4EE2F9890@markspace.com>

On Sep 23, 2006, at 10:31 PM, Eric Shapiro wrote:

> ln -s path-to-SampleConduit.plugin "/Library/Applications/Missing  
> Sync for Palm OS/Plugins/SampleConduit.plugin"

That should be:

"/Library/Application Support/Palm HotSync/Conduits/ 
SampleConduit.plugin"

  -Eric

-----------------------------------------------
Eric Shapiro             Mark/Space Engineering
-----------------------------------------------


From mdecaro at comcast.net  Sat Sep 23 20:05:43 2006
From: mdecaro at comcast.net (Matt DeCaro)
Date: Sat Sep 23 20:05:46 2006
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-dev-talk] Re: Can't debug
In-Reply-To: <899BEBA9-3CBD-46C2-A620-05B4EE2F9890@markspace.com>
References: <200609231900.k8NJ0Snn009855@sparrow.markspace.com>
	<BFDE937C-DDBB-47D9-AAA5-A2894FFD043F@comcast.net>
	<2460053F-BE39-4321-8A14-4AE291D140E1@markspace.com>
	<899BEBA9-3CBD-46C2-A620-05B4EE2F9890@markspace.com>
Message-ID: <A02B694E-E719-40A3-BC55-B890238E5992@comcast.net>

I tried that and it doesn't make a difference.

I create the link in /Library/Application Support/Palm HotSync/ 
Conduits .

I also tried what you said and it didn't work either.


On Sep 23, 2006, at 10:34 PM, Eric Shapiro wrote:

> On Sep 23, 2006, at 10:31 PM, Eric Shapiro wrote:
>
>> ln -s path-to-SampleConduit.plugin "/Library/Applications/Missing  
>> Sync for Palm OS/Plugins/SampleConduit.plugin"
>
> That should be:
>
> "/Library/Application Support/Palm HotSync/Conduits/ 
> SampleConduit.plugin"
>
>  -Eric
>
> -----------------------------------------------
> Eric Shapiro             Mark/Space Engineering
> -----------------------------------------------
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From sgruby at markspace.com  Sat Sep 23 20:45:29 2006
From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby)
Date: Sat Sep 23 20:45:02 2006
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-dev-talk] Re: Can't debug
In-Reply-To: <BFDE937C-DDBB-47D9-AAA5-A2894FFD043F@comcast.net>
References: <200609231900.k8NJ0Snn009855@sparrow.markspace.com>
	<BFDE937C-DDBB-47D9-AAA5-A2894FFD043F@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <976A2FF8-EA0D-4CDB-A5F7-1E633A485917@markspace.com>


On Sep 23, 2006, at 5:50 PM, Matt DeCaro wrote:

>
> I followed all of the directions (I think).
>
> I created the Custom Executables, I used finder to make an alias to  
> the SampleConduit.plugin in the build tree in /Library/ 
> Application.... etc.
>

You might try a symbolic link as described in the document on our  
website.

> I then hit Debug Executable.  Missing sync is started.  I can  
> change the conduit settings, but the debugger won't 'kick in'.  It  
> remains blank.

You should try debugging the Cocoa conduit to see if you can get that  
to work. If you are on an Intel machine, make sure you are building  
an Intel native conduit because it is unlikely you'll be able to  
debug a PowerPC conduit on Intel due to our compatibility app having  
to run.


> If I pause the debugger, it commonly  stops at a routine called  
> 'mach_msg'  or mach_msg_trap'.
>
> Is there anything else I need to do?  Eric Shapiro mentioned  
> Attaching to Mising Sync, I tried this to no avail.
>
>
> On Sep 23, 2006, at 10:34 AM, Matt DeCaro wrote:
>
> > I have compiled the sample carbon conduit.  I followed the
> > directions given, and there were several issues.
> >
> > When I tried to debug the development product, I get the dialog
> > that indicates that it is a PPC file.  I verified this in the info
> > of the file.  Interestingly the Deployment file was Intel?  I
> > changed settings on the development to fix that.
> >
> > The real problem is he it will not debug!   It executes fine, I can
> > se it on the Missing Sync screen.  I have a breakpoint set in the
> > event handler for when the OK key is hit.  No code ever shows in
> > the debugger and it never stops where it should.  Any clues as to
> > why I can't debug?
> >
>
> Did you follow the instructions contained in our document at: <http://
> www.markspace.com/developer/Writing_Conduits_with_Xcode.pdf>?
>
> --
> Scott Gruby
> Mark/Space, Inc.
> <http://www.markspace.com/>
>
> __________________
> Matt DeCaro
> mdecaro@comcast.net
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> missing-sync-palmos-dev-talk mailing list
> missing-sync-palmos-dev-talk@lists.markspace.com
> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos-dev- 
> talk


--
Scott Gruby
Mark/Space, Inc.
<http://www.markspace.com/>

Please visit <http://www.markspace.com/support/> for assistance with  
Mark/Space products.


From mdecaro at comcast.net  Sun Sep 24 07:31:52 2006
From: mdecaro at comcast.net (Matt DeCaro)
Date: Sun Sep 24 07:32:14 2006
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-dev-talk] Re: Can't debug
In-Reply-To: <976A2FF8-EA0D-4CDB-A5F7-1E633A485917@markspace.com>
References: <200609231900.k8NJ0Snn009855@sparrow.markspace.com>
	<BFDE937C-DDBB-47D9-AAA5-A2894FFD043F@comcast.net>
	<976A2FF8-EA0D-4CDB-A5F7-1E633A485917@markspace.com>
Message-ID: <9F2CEEE4-1465-49AE-B7DD-8A0DF2E67ED8@comcast.net>


On Sep 23, 2006, at 11:45 PM, Scott Gruby wrote:

>
> On Sep 23, 2006, at 5:50 PM, Matt DeCaro wrote:
>
>>
>> I followed all of the directions (I think).
>>
>> I created the Custom Executables, I used finder to make an alias  
>> to the SampleConduit.plugin in the build tree in /Library/ 
>> Application.... etc.
>>
>
> You might try a symbolic link as described in the document on our  
> website.
>
I did, and it didn't matter.

>> I then hit Debug Executable.  Missing sync is started.  I can  
>> change the conduit settings, but the debugger won't 'kick in'.  It  
>> remains blank.
>
> You should try debugging the Cocoa conduit to see if you can get  
> that to work. If you are on an Intel machine, make sure you are  
> building an Intel native conduit because it is unlikely you'll be  
> able to debug a PowerPC conduit on Intel due to our compatibility  
> app having to run.
>
>
When I debug cocoa, it works fine.  I went through all of the project  
settings to be sure they were the same.  It also didn't matter.   
Interestingly there is slightly different behavior.   If I have the  
editor window open with breakpoints set, the arrow next to the code  
is black.  WHen I hit debug, they turn gold.  In the cocoa version,  
when the debugger is fully loaded, they turn black again.  In the   
carbon version, they stay gold.  In the breakpoints window, instead  
of a check in a blue box, it is a dash.  If I set a check manually,  
the arrow becomes black, but it still doesn't debug.

I am stymied.


>> --
>> Scott Gruby
>> Mark/Space, Inc.
>> <http://www.markspace.com/>
>>
>> __________________
>> Matt DeCaro
>> mdecaro@comcast.net
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> missing-sync-palmos-dev-talk mailing list
>> missing-sync-palmos-dev-talk@lists.markspace.com
>> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-palmos- 
>> dev-talk
>
>
> --
> Scott Gruby
> Mark/Space, Inc.
> <http://www.markspace.com/>
>
> Please visit <http://www.markspace.com/support/> for assistance  
> with Mark/Space products.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From: mdecaro at comcast.net (Matthew DeCaro)
Date: Mon Sep 25 09:57:26 2006
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-dev-talk] Re: Can't debug
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Has  anyone else had a similar problem?  I have a MacBook Intel.  Loaded on the system is CodeWarrior 8.2 as well as tthe CDK 4.03, Palm Desktop and of course Missing Sync.

Is there anyting I can send you from my system that would help you troubleshoot with me?

I am sorry to be a pain, but I need to get this working! 

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  On Sep 23, 2006, at 11:45 PM, Scott Gruby wrote:




    On Sep 23, 2006, at 5:50 PM, Matt DeCaro wrote:




      I followed all of the directions (I think).


      I created the Custom Executables, I used finder to make an alias to the SampleConduit.plugin in the build tree in /Library/Application.... etc.




    You might try a symbolic link as described in the document on our website.


  I did, and it didn't matter.


      I then hit Debug Executable.  Missing sync is started.  I can change the conduit settings, but the debugger won't 'kick in'.  It remains blank.


    You should try debugging the Cocoa conduit to see if you can get that to work. If you are on an Intel machine, make sure you are building an Intel native conduit because it is unlikely you'll be able to debug a PowerPC conduit on Intel due to our compatibility app having to run.




  When I debug cocoa, it works fine.  I went through all of the project settings to be sure they were the same.  It also didn't matter.  Interestingly there is slightly different behavior.   If I have the editor window open with breakpoints set, the arrow next to the code is black.  WHen I hit debug, they turn gold.  In the cocoa version, when the debugger is fully loaded, they turn black again.  In the  carbon version, they stay gold.  In the breakpoints window, instead of a check in a blue box, it is a dash.  If I set a check manually, the arrow becomes black, but it still doesn't debug.


  I am stymied.
    


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From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby)
Date: Tue Sep 26 12:33:07 2006
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-dev-talk] Re: Can't debug
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On Sep 25, 2006, at 9:57 AM, Matthew DeCaro wrote:

> Has  anyone else had a similar problem?  I have a MacBook Intel.   
> Loaded on the system is CodeWarrior 8.2 as well as tthe CDK 4.03,  
> Palm Desktop and of course Missing Sync.
>
> Is there anyting I can send you from my system that would help you  
> troubleshoot with me?
>
> I am sorry to be a pain, but I need to get this working!

Sorry for the delayed response, but I just tested debugging a Carbon  
conduit and it worked fine with the caveat that I had to change the  
architecture (it was set to ppc and I'm on Intel). In the  
SampleConduit (not the PowerPlant example), click on SampleConduit,  
get info, from the configuration menu, choose Development, select  
architecture and make sure it is set to the correct value (Intel).

If when trying to debug, you get a dialog saying that this conduit  
wasn't designed to work on this system, then your conduit is a PPC  
conduit running on Intel.

I tried this with the PowerPlant Sample and it worked as well.

I hope this helps.


>
--
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Mark/Space, Inc.
<http://www.markspace.com/>

Please visit <http://www.markspace.com/support/> for assistance with  
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From mdecaro at comcast.net  Tue Sep 26 17:08:17 2006
From: mdecaro at comcast.net (Matt DeCaro)
Date: Tue Sep 26 17:09:00 2006
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-dev-talk] Re: Can't debug
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I used the sample conduit directly from the web site.  I compiled it  
using xcode 2.4.  It does not debug.  When I do the deployment  
conduit I don't get the sheet indicating PPC, the development one  
does.  Neither version will debug.  I think I have tried every  
permutation without success.  I am at a complete loss.

As I indicated, the cocoa version will debug.  I am not familiar with  
objective-C unfortunately.  I have a fairly new macbook (intel)  I do  
have codewarrior 8.2 installed.  Is this somehow affecting things?


On Sep 26, 2006, at 3:32 PM, Scott Gruby wrote:

>
> On Sep 25, 2006, at 9:57 AM, Matthew DeCaro wrote:
>
>> Has  anyone else had a similar problem?  I have a MacBook Intel.   
>> Loaded on the system is CodeWarrior 8.2 as well as tthe CDK 4.03,  
>> Palm Desktop and of course Missing Sync.
>>
>> Is there anyting I can send you from my system that would help you  
>> troubleshoot with me?
>>
>> I am sorry to be a pain, but I need to get this working!
>
> Sorry for the delayed response, but I just tested debugging a  
> Carbon conduit and it worked fine with the caveat that I had to  
> change the architecture (it was set to ppc and I'm on Intel). In  
> the SampleConduit (not the PowerPlant example), click on  
> SampleConduit, get info, from the configuration menu, choose  
> Development, select architecture and make sure it is set to the  
> correct value (Intel).
>
> If when trying to debug, you get a dialog saying that this conduit  
> wasn't designed to work on this system, then your conduit is a PPC  
> conduit running on Intel.
>
> I tried this with the PowerPlant Sample and it worked as well.
>
> I hope this helps.
>
>
>>
> --
> Scott Gruby
> Mark/Space, Inc.
> <http://www.markspace.com/>
>
> Please visit <http://www.markspace.com/support/> for assistance  
> with Mark/Space products.
>
>
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From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby)
Date: Tue Sep 26 17:37:19 2006
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-dev-talk] Re: Can't debug
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On Sep 26, 2006, at 5:08 PM, Matt DeCaro wrote:

> I used the sample conduit directly from the web site.  I compiled  
> it using xcode 2.4.  It does not debug.  When I do the deployment  
> conduit I don't get the sheet indicating PPC, the development one  
> does.

There is your problem. You need to:

a) Set Active Build Configuration to Development
b) Turn down the triangle on Targets
c) Click on SampleConduit
d) Get Info on it (Command-I)
e) Click the build tab
f) Make sure Configuration says Development
g) Look for Architectures
h) Double click, Click Intel (uncheck PowerPC)

You cannot debug a PowerPC conduit on Intel with Missing Sync, so you  
must be building an Intel native conduit. Furthermore, you can only  
debug the development build.

> Neither version will debug.  I think I have tried every permutation  
> without success.  I am at a complete loss.
>
> As I indicated, the cocoa version will debug.  I am not familiar  
> with objective-C unfortunately.  I have a fairly new macbook  
> (intel)  I do have codewarrior 8.2 installed.  Is this somehow  
> affecting things?
>
>
> On Sep 26, 2006, at 3:32 PM, Scott Gruby wrote:
>
>>
>> On Sep 25, 2006, at 9:57 AM, Matthew DeCaro wrote:
>>
>>> Has  anyone else had a similar problem?  I have a MacBook Intel.   
>>> Loaded on the system is CodeWarrior 8.2 as well as tthe CDK 4.03,  
>>> Palm Desktop and of course Missing Sync.
>>>
>>> Is there anyting I can send you from my system that would help  
>>> you troubleshoot with me?
>>>
>>> I am sorry to be a pain, but I need to get this working!
>>
>> Sorry for the delayed response, but I just tested debugging a  
>> Carbon conduit and it worked fine with the caveat that I had to  
>> change the architecture (it was set to ppc and I'm on Intel). In  
>> the SampleConduit (not the PowerPlant example), click on  
>> SampleConduit, get info, from the configuration menu, choose  
>> Development, select architecture and make sure it is set to the  
>> correct value (Intel).
>>
>> If when trying to debug, you get a dialog saying that this conduit  
>> wasn't designed to work on this system, then your conduit is a PPC  
>> conduit running on Intel.
>>
>> I tried this with the PowerPlant Sample and it worked as well.
>>
>> I hope this helps.
>>
>>
>>>
>> --
>> Scott Gruby
>> Mark/Space, Inc.
>> <http://www.markspace.com/>
>>
>> Please visit <http://www.markspace.com/support/> for assistance  
>> with Mark/Space products.
>>
>>
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>
>
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From mdecaro at comcast.net  Tue Sep 26 18:05:13 2006
From: mdecaro at comcast.net (Matt DeCaro)
Date: Tue Sep 26 18:05:23 2006
Subject: [missing-sync-palmos-dev-talk] Re: Can't debug
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That did it.  I am a worthless novice!  I was making changes from the  
info screen of the entire project, not the individual target.  I am  
truly grateful for your assistance.


On Sep 26, 2006, at 8:37 PM, Scott Gruby wrote:

>
> On Sep 26, 2006, at 5:08 PM, Matt DeCaro wrote:
>
>> I used the sample conduit directly from the web site.  I compiled  
>> it using xcode 2.4.  It does not debug.  When I do the deployment  
>> conduit I don't get the sheet indicating PPC, the development one  
>> does.
>
> There is your problem. You need to:
>
> a) Set Active Build Configuration to Development
> b) Turn down the triangle on Targets
> c) Click on SampleConduit
> d) Get Info on it (Command-I)
> e) Click the build tab
> f) Make sure Configuration says Development
> g) Look for Architectures
> h) Double click, Click Intel (uncheck PowerPC)
>
> You cannot debug a PowerPC conduit on Intel with Missing Sync, so  
> you must be building an Intel native conduit. Furthermore, you can  
> only debug the development build.
>
>> Neither version will debug.  I think I have tried every  
>> permutation without success.  I am at a complete loss.
>>
>> As I indicated, the cocoa version will debug.  I am not familiar  
>> with objective-C unfortunately.  I have a fairly new macbook  
>> (intel)  I do have codewarrior 8.2 installed.  Is this somehow  
>> affecting things?
>>
>>
>> On Sep 26, 2006, at 3:32 PM, Scott Gruby wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Sep 25, 2006, at 9:57 AM, Matthew DeCaro wrote:
>>>
>>>> Has  anyone else had a similar problem?  I have a MacBook  
>>>> Intel.  Loaded on the system is CodeWarrior 8.2 as well as tthe  
>>>> CDK 4.03, Palm Desktop and of course Missing Sync.
>>>>
>>>> Is there anyting I can send you from my system that would help  
>>>> you troubleshoot with me?
>>>>
>>>> I am sorry to be a pain, but I need to get this working!
>>>
>>> Sorry for the delayed response, but I just tested debugging a  
>>> Carbon conduit and it worked fine with the caveat that I had to  
>>> change the architecture (it was set to ppc and I'm on Intel). In  
>>> the SampleConduit (not the PowerPlant example), click on  
>>> SampleConduit, get info, from the configuration menu, choose  
>>> Development, select architecture and make sure it is set to the  
>>> correct value (Intel).
>>>
>>> If when trying to debug, you get a dialog saying that this  
>>> conduit wasn't designed to work on this system, then your conduit  
>>> is a PPC conduit running on Intel.
>>>
>>> I tried this with the PowerPlant Sample and it worked as well.
>>>
>>> I hope this helps.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>> --
>>> Scott Gruby
>>> Mark/Space, Inc.
>>> <http://www.markspace.com/>
>>>
>>> Please visit <http://www.markspace.com/support/> for assistance  
>>> with Mark/Space products.
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>
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On Sep 26, 2006, at 6:05 PM, Matt DeCaro wrote:

> That did it.  I am a worthless novice!  I was making changes from  
> the info screen of the entire project, not the individual target.   
> I am truly grateful for your assistance.
>

Don't feel bad; the interface in Xcode takes a lot of time to figure  
out everything. It took me awhile to figure out why I'd want to make  
changes to the project and how they affected each target.

I went ahead and uploaded a new SampleCode.zip file that has this  
change in it to make it easier for others.

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