From stephen at topsydesigns.com Fri Jul 1 01:12:22 2005 From: stephen at topsydesigns.com (Stephen Topsy) Date: Fri Jul 1 01:12:27 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Notes to Stickies In-Reply-To: <200506301900.j5UJ0Fk9032348@sparrow.markspace.com> References: <200506301900.j5UJ0Fk9032348@sparrow.markspace.com> Message-ID: Is it possible for a future version of missing sync to sync Hiptop's Notes to the Mac's Stickies widget? This would be useful for me because I often find myself trying to get a large amount of text onto (and off of) the hiptop without logging on to the desktop interface. I often post my resume online, which I store as a Note on the hiptop. I've come across other instances where this would be useful as well. Using email is not as efficient because its more complicated when it comes to copying and pasting on the hiptop On Jun 30, 2005, at 12:00 PM, missing-sync-hiptop-talk-request@lists.markspace.com wrote: > Send missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list submissions to > missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > missing-sync-hiptop-talk-request@lists.markspace.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > missing-sync-hiptop-talk-owner@lists.markspace.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of missing-sync-hiptop-talk digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. calendar sync failure (Conrad Heiney) > 2. Re: Useful beta troubleshooting steps (Conrad Heiney) > 3. (no subject) (Tim Schultz) > 4. Re: (no subject) (Brian M. Criscuolo) > 5. Re: Useful beta troubleshooting steps (Brian M. Criscuolo) > 6. Re: Useful beta troubleshooting steps (Conrad Heiney) > 7. Ignore the attachment... (Brian M. Criscuolo) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 16:58:28 -0700 > From: Conrad Heiney > Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] calendar sync failure > To: missing sync > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; delsp=yes; format=flowed > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Calendar fails to sync. I reset everything with the debug option and > resync'd, and my address book went over fine, but new calendar items > and To-Do's are not transferring. During the calendar sync I get this > in the log, and then the app just hangs and sits there: > > 6/29/05 16:54:28 Main Application: Result - get_sync_anchor: > 1120089268792 > 6/29/05 16:54:50 Main Application: Calling Calendar _countOfRecords > 6/29/05 16:54:52 Main Application: NSInvalidArgumentException can't > prepare 'select recordid from Record where entityname in > (?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?)': 1 (no such table: Record) > > > - --- > Conrad Heiney > conrad@fringehead.org > > A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man. ??? Jedediah Springfield > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) > > iD8DBQFCwzWoyVm6VkRf/dQRAk7sAJ45Se2YiKCACe4P7sXRhtSQyMQfxgCfYUsI > zqdRAjqoKGvEYefcAfLDKo4= > =ikXD > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 17:27:05 -0700 > From: Conrad Heiney > Subject: Re: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Useful beta troubleshooting > steps > To: The Missing Sync for hiptop Discussion List > > Message-ID: <46128B14-5071-4715-94B9-C7CC845C1A4F@fringehead.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; delsp=yes; format=flowed > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > 1. When I do this, the Preferences dialog does not go away after I > click "OK" or "Cancel". It just stays there. > > 2. It seems to work once. After that, Calendar syncing fails again. > > On Jun 28, 2005, at 8:05 AM, Brian M. Criscuolo wrote: > >> All, >> >> In the process of using the various beta releases you may want (or >> need) to get back to a state that resets Missing Sync for hiptop. >> This is especially helpful when troubleshooting a problem you may >> have and especially useful when running a sync with a new beta build. >> >> 1. Backup all desktop data. >> 2. Be prepared to have all device data deleted (meaning back it up >> if possible, or do something to make note of records that aren't on >> the desktop). >> 3. Launch app and while holding down the option key choose Missing >> Sync for hiptop:Debug Options menu item. >> 4. Click the "Unregister Sync Clients" button and confirm "Yes" in >> the following alert dialog. >> 5. Click OK to close the preferences. >> 6. Click Sync Now. An alert will come up from the Sync Services >> engine. Click the "Allow" button. >> >> >> What this is going to do is force our app to become re-registered >> with the sync engine, as if it had never synchronized before. In >> doing so all records will be pushed from the device into the sync >> engine where they will "mingle" with your Mac's data before being >> pulled out of the engine back to the device. It is known as a slow >> sync; all data is compared to try to avoid duplicates. It is a >> lengthy process if you have a lot of data but definitely necessary >> to ensure the integrity of the data. >> >> If you are having problematic results when synchronizing I suggest >> you try the above steps. >> >> Report back to us with success or failure when doing the above to >> solve a problem - it could reveal a pattern that is important to >> know about. >> >> Thanks! > > - --- > Conrad Heiney > conrad@fringehead.org > > A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man. ??? Jedediah Springfield > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) > > iD8DBQFCwzxdyVm6VkRf/dQRAmQNAJ96J9EVqt0PPXprYKlo1OEiNIlN7wCfVbIA > JYwELS8zbk+li/Kg5EVTm+Y= > =vGOY > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 21:15:21 -0700 > From: "Tim Schultz" > Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] (no subject) > To: missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed > > I still can't get the software to work. I have sent in logs and done > everything i have read to do. But for some reason it justs freezes when > "Processing changes from you Macintosh" and then quits after a while. > Funny > thing is that I tried to do that debug menu unregister clients thing > and > when i try to hit ok after unregistering the button stops responding. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 13:41:52 -0400 > From: "Brian M. Criscuolo" > Subject: Re: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] (no subject) > To: The Missing Sync for hiptop Discussion List > > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed > > Tim, > > The unregister clients button should work better in our next beta > build. The application can hang after using it in b4. If you force > quit the app and relaunch it you can sync again, and the client > (meaning our app) will be unregistered and ready to sync anew. > > b > > On Jun 30, 2005, at 12:15 AM, Tim Schultz wrote: > >> I still can't get the software to work. I have sent in logs and >> done everything i have read to do. But for some reason it justs >> freezes when "Processing changes from you Macintosh" and then quits >> after a while. Funny thing is that I tried to do that debug menu >> unregister clients thing and when i try to hit ok after >> unregistering the button stops responding. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk >> >> To unsubscribe, send an email from your subscribed email address to: >> missing-sync-hiptop-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com >> > > > ******************** > Brian M. Criscuolo > Senior Software Engineer > Mark/Space, Inc. > bcriscuolo@markspace.com > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 14:00:34 -0400 > From: "Brian M. Criscuolo" > Subject: Re: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Useful beta troubleshooting > steps > To: The Missing Sync for hiptop Discussion List > > Message-ID: <17E5D8A6-5160-46BC-8C00-8E019F51BD63@markspace.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed > > Conrad, > > On Jun 29, 2005, at 8:27 PM, Conrad Heiney wrote: > >> 1. When I do this, the Preferences dialog does not go away after I >> click "OK" or "Cancel". It just stays there. > > This will be fixed in the next beta build. The client (our app) is > unregistered, but the app is hung. Force quit and relaunch; you'll > then be able to sync. > >> 2. It seems to work once. After that, Calendar syncing fails again. > > Does it fail with the same information in the log? I'm interested in > seeing your log file. > > b > > ******************** > Brian M. Criscuolo > Senior Software Engineer > Mark/Space, Inc. > bcriscuolo@markspace.com > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 11:05:19 -0700 > From: Conrad Heiney > Subject: Re: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Useful beta troubleshooting > steps > To: The Missing Sync for hiptop Discussion List > > Message-ID: <8F8A890F-CB4A-4D04-BACB-A69426FB0D9F@fringehead.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; delsp=yes; format=flowed > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > 6/29/05 16:54:28 Main Application: Result - get_sync_anchor: > 1120089268792 > 6/29/05 16:54:50 Main Application: Calling Calendar _countOfRecords > 6/29/05 16:54:52 Main Application: NSInvalidArgumentException can't > prepare 'select recordid from Record where entityname in > (?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?)': 1 (no such table: Record) > > On Jun 30, 2005, at 11:00 AM, Brian M. Criscuolo wrote: > >>> 2. It seems to work once. After that, Calendar syncing fails again. >>> >> >> Does it fail with the same information in the log? I'm interested >> in seeing your log file. > > > - --- > Conrad Heiney > conrad@fringehead.org > > A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man. ??? Jedediah Springfield > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) > > iD8DBQFCxDRjyVm6VkRf/dQRApXaAKCQP3JYHpZqO2ir2EL3+YENB3nodACdE/0Q > tH8fCmUV2uZx/7NL655n0GM= > =IE7c > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 14:36:02 -0400 > From: "Brian M. Criscuolo" > Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Ignore the attachment... > To: The Missing Sync for hiptop Discussion List > > Message-ID: <37F380DA-CF83-43E5-B6ED-037B7ECDDBFF@markspace.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > > and sorry for wasting bandwidth! It is a special build for Conrad. > > b > > ******************** > Brian M. Criscuolo > Senior Software Engineer > Mark/Space, Inc. > bcriscuolo@markspace.com > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list > missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk > > > End of missing-sync-hiptop-talk Digest, Vol 15, Issue 16 > ******************************************************** From lists at siry.com Fri Jul 1 03:28:25 2005 From: lists at siry.com (Marc Siry) Date: Fri Jul 1 03:27:51 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Notes to Stickies In-Reply-To: References: <200506301900.j5UJ0Fk9032348@sparrow.markspace.com> Message-ID: On Jul 1, 2005, at 4:12 AM, Stephen Topsy wrote: > Is it possible for a future version of missing sync to sync > Hiptop's Notes to the Mac's Stickies widget? This would be fantastic for me as well- I am in the same position WRT information on my Mac Stickies not making it to the Notes; it's the one thing I miss about my Blackberry. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.markspace.com/pipermail/missing-sync-hiptop-talk/attachments/20050701/636fbac7/attachment.html From sgruby at markspace.com Fri Jul 1 08:44:48 2005 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Fri Jul 1 08:44:59 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Notes to Stickies In-Reply-To: References: <200506301900.j5UJ0Fk9032348@sparrow.markspace.com> Message-ID: On Jul 1, 2005, at 1:12 AM, Stephen Topsy wrote: > Is it possible for a future version of missing sync to sync > Hiptop's Notes to the Mac's Stickies widget? This would be useful > for me because I often find myself trying to get a large amount of > text onto (and off of) the hiptop without logging on to the desktop > interface. I often post my resume online, which I store as a Note > on the hiptop. I've come across other instances where this would be > useful as well. Using email is not as efficient because its more > complicated when it comes to copying and pasting on the hiptop > > We will consider something like this for a future version; however, remember that Stickies can contain graphics, styled text, audio, movies, etc. If you did a syncing of Notes, we would sync to our own MemoPad application that we use on our Palm OS product. -- Scott Gruby Lead Engineer Mark/Space, Inc. Please visit for assistance with Mark/Space products. From curt at mac.com Fri Jul 1 12:58:17 2005 From: curt at mac.com (Curt Broskey) Date: Fri Jul 1 12:58:22 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Notes to Stickies In-Reply-To: References: <200506301900.j5UJ0Fk9032348@sparrow.markspace.com> Message-ID: ..the memopad is great. Wish that was able to sync.. ;-) - Curt On Jul 1, 2005, at 11:44 AM, Scott Gruby wrote: > > On Jul 1, 2005, at 1:12 AM, Stephen Topsy wrote: > > >> Is it possible for a future version of missing sync to sync >> Hiptop's Notes to the Mac's Stickies widget? This would be useful >> for me because I often find myself trying to get a large amount of >> text onto (and off of) the hiptop without logging on to the >> desktop interface. I often post my resume online, which I store as >> a Note on the hiptop. I've come across other instances where this >> would be useful as well. Using email is not as efficient because >> its more complicated when it comes to copying and pasting on the >> hiptop >> >> >> > > We will consider something like this for a future version; however, > remember that Stickies can contain graphics, styled text, audio, > movies, etc. If you did a syncing of Notes, we would sync to our > own MemoPad application that we use on our Palm OS product. > > -- > Scott Gruby > Lead Engineer > Mark/Space, Inc. > > > Please visit for assistance > with Mark/Space products. > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list > missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk > > To unsubscribe, send an email from your subscribed email address to: > missing-sync-hiptop-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com > From tlesley at springside.net Fri Jul 1 13:12:57 2005 From: tlesley at springside.net (Ted Lesley) Date: Fri Jul 1 13:13:11 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Sync Mail? In-Reply-To: References: <200506301900.j5UJ0Fk9032348@sparrow.markspace.com> Message-ID: I would really love to use the Missing Sync to pull mail from the sidekick/danger to my AppleMail. Synchronizing the folders would be on beyond cool. From sgruby at markspace.com Fri Jul 1 13:55:19 2005 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Fri Jul 1 13:55:29 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Sync Mail? In-Reply-To: References: <200506301900.j5UJ0Fk9032348@sparrow.markspace.com> Message-ID: On Jul 1, 2005, at 1:12 PM, Ted Lesley wrote: > I would really love to use the Missing Sync to pull mail from the > sidekick/danger to my AppleMail. Synchronizing the folders would be > on beyond cool. > _______________________________________________ We'll add these to our potential feature list; however, we have no immediate plans to do either one as Danger hasn't exposed the necessary hooks on their server for us to accomplish these. -- Scott Gruby Lead Engineer Mark/Space, Inc. Please visit for assistance with Mark/Space products. From agutterja at arch.utah.edu Fri Jul 1 14:10:24 2005 From: agutterja at arch.utah.edu (Jim Agutter) Date: Fri Jul 1 14:10:30 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Sync Mail? In-Reply-To: References: <200506301900.j5UJ0Fk9032348@sparrow.markspace.com> Message-ID: <0099ED8A-7F2F-4DEB-B6FB-64F7C3B43A79@arch.utah.edu> I just have my sidekick get the email from the pop3 but leave it on the server. Then my apple mail just gets it from the pop3 and then pulls it off the server leaving the final email archive on my laptop. I really only want to use the email on my sidekick when I am away from my machine to respond to urgent messages etc.... jim On Jul 1, 2005, at 2:55 PM, Scott Gruby wrote: > > On Jul 1, 2005, at 1:12 PM, Ted Lesley wrote: > > >> I would really love to use the Missing Sync to pull mail from the >> sidekick/danger to my AppleMail. Synchronizing the folders would >> be on beyond cool. >> _______________________________________________ >> > > We'll add these to our potential feature list; however, we have no > immediate plans to do either one as Danger hasn't exposed the > necessary hooks on their server for us to accomplish these. > > > -- > Scott Gruby > Lead Engineer > Mark/Space, Inc. > > > Please visit for assistance > with Mark/Space products. > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list > missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk > > To unsubscribe, send an email from your subscribed email address to: > missing-sync-hiptop-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com > > From curt at mac.com Fri Jul 1 14:26:00 2005 From: curt at mac.com (Curt Broskey) Date: Fri Jul 1 14:26:03 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Sync Mail? In-Reply-To: <0099ED8A-7F2F-4DEB-B6FB-64F7C3B43A79@arch.utah.edu> References: <200506301900.j5UJ0Fk9032348@sparrow.markspace.com> <0099ED8A-7F2F-4DEB-B6FB-64F7C3B43A79@arch.utah.edu> Message-ID: <2FB74ED6-8792-4712-A2E1-F76A10098B09@mac.com> If the sidekick were to sync with Apple mail you would go over the % the sidekick has...but Jim is right, I have my sidekick grab my mail and leave it on the server so I get mail in 2 places. Works great. - CB On Jul 1, 2005, at 5:10 PM, Jim Agutter wrote: > I just have my sidekick get the email from the pop3 but leave it on > the server. > > Then my apple mail just gets it from the pop3 and then pulls it off > the server leaving the final email archive on my laptop. > > I really only want to use the email on my sidekick when I am away > from my machine to respond to urgent messages etc.... > > jim > > > On Jul 1, 2005, at 2:55 PM, Scott Gruby wrote: > > >> >> On Jul 1, 2005, at 1:12 PM, Ted Lesley wrote: >> >> >> >>> I would really love to use the Missing Sync to pull mail from the >>> sidekick/danger to my AppleMail. Synchronizing the folders would >>> be on beyond cool. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> >> >> We'll add these to our potential feature list; however, we have no >> immediate plans to do either one as Danger hasn't exposed the >> necessary hooks on their server for us to accomplish these. >> >> >> -- >> Scott Gruby >> Lead Engineer >> Mark/Space, Inc. >> >> >> Please visit for assistance >> with Mark/Space products. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk >> >> To unsubscribe, send an email from your subscribed email address to: >> missing-sync-hiptop-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list > missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk > > To unsubscribe, send an email from your subscribed email address to: > missing-sync-hiptop-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com > From mkb_cbr at mac.com Fri Jul 1 16:29:10 2005 From: mkb_cbr at mac.com (Mike Brodhead) Date: Fri Jul 1 16:29:16 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Sync Mail? In-Reply-To: References: <200506301900.j5UJ0Fk9032348@sparrow.markspace.com> Message-ID: <1120260553.26E224DD@di12.dngr.org> On Fri, 1 Jul 2005 1:38 pm, Ted Lesley wrote: > I would really love to use the Missing Sync to pull mail from the > sidekick/danger to my AppleMail. Synchronizing the folders would be on > beyond cool. Seems ro me the right way to do that would be for Danger to offer a richer IMAP implementation. --mkb From bluesgeek at earthlink.net Fri Jul 1 17:28:04 2005 From: bluesgeek at earthlink.net (Dave Therault) Date: Fri Jul 1 17:28:19 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] No Support for Nicknames In-Reply-To: <200507011902.j61J2Zng030466@sparrow.markspace.com> Message-ID: It has been posted here that there is currently no support for nicknames. The way I understand it, any nicknames are deleted upon sync. If in fact there is no documentation (if I am wrong about that, I apologize in advance) and if nicknames are deleted rather than ignored, this would be, in my opinion, an irresponsible oversight. I use nicknames routinely as a means of creating subcategories or groups (since hiptop OS doesn't support groups). I have now lost very important nickname data, and I do not believe I was warned that this would happen. From bruce.adams at acm.org Fri Jul 1 17:44:13 2005 From: bruce.adams at acm.org (Bruce Adams) Date: Fri Jul 1 17:44:56 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] No Support for Nicknames In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1120265093.2417FB61@dh11.dngr.org> Wow. While Sidekick nicknames don't synch, I've never lost one, and I use them plenty. I am still running the 1.x sync on Panther. - Bruce On Fri, 1 Jul 2005 8:28 pm, Dave Therault wrote: > It has been posted here that there is currently no support for > nicknames. > The way I understand it, any nicknames are deleted upon sync. If in > fact > there is no documentation (if I am wrong about that, I apologize in > advance) > and if nicknames are deleted rather than ignored, this would be, in my > opinion, an irresponsible oversight. I use nicknames routinely as a > means of > creating subcategories or groups (since hiptop OS doesn't support > groups). I > have now lost very important nickname data, and I do not believe I was > warned that this would happen. > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list > missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk > > To unsubscribe, send an email from your subscribed email address to: > missing-sync-hiptop-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com From brian_hall at markspace.com Fri Jul 1 18:28:44 2005 From: brian_hall at markspace.com (Brian Hall) Date: Fri Jul 1 18:29:04 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] No Support for Nicknames In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >It has been posted here that there is currently no support for nicknames. >The way I understand it, any nicknames are deleted upon sync. If in fact >there is no documentation (if I am wrong about that, I apologize in advance) >and if nicknames are deleted rather than ignored, this would be, in my >opinion, an irresponsible oversight. I use nicknames routinely as a means of >creating subcategories or groups (since hiptop OS doesn't support groups). I >have now lost very important nickname data, and I do not believe I was >warned that this would happen. Are you using 1.x under 10.3, or 2.x under 10.4? As others have pointed out, we haven't seen that before (at least in 1.x). If this is happening with the 2.0 beta, please complete the form at: http://www.markspace.com/support/feedback_hiptop_beta.html In order for us to get this into the bug database and assign it to an engineer. Brian -- _____________________________________________________________________ Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 654 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 Los Gatos, CA 95030-4360 From wkeuffel at xmission.com Fri Jul 1 19:34:56 2005 From: wkeuffel at xmission.com (Warren Keuffel) Date: Fri Jul 1 19:35:04 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Sync Mail? In-Reply-To: <2FB74ED6-8792-4712-A2E1-F76A10098B09@mac.com> References: <200506301900.j5UJ0Fk9032348@sparrow.markspace.com> <0099ED8A-7F2F-4DEB-B6FB-64F7C3B43A79@arch.utah.edu> <2FB74ED6-8792-4712-A2E1-F76A10098B09@mac.com> Message-ID: Are you talking about getting mail from tmobile.com or can you get the Sidekick to get mail from other POP accounts? Also, I have not been able to find the menu item on the Sidekick that tells it to leave mail on the server -- I know how to do it in Apple Mail, Thunderbird, etc,, but not Sidekick. Thanks, Warren On Jul 1, 2005, at 3:26 PM, Curt Broskey wrote: > If the sidekick were to sync with Apple mail you would go over the % > the sidekick has...but Jim is right, I have my sidekick grab my mail > and leave it on the server so I get mail in 2 places. Works great. > > - CB > > > On Jul 1, 2005, at 5:10 PM, Jim Agutter wrote: > >> I just have my sidekick get the email from the pop3 but leave it on >> the server. >> >> Then my apple mail just gets it from the pop3 and then pulls it off >> the server leaving the final email archive on my laptop. >> >> I really only want to use the email on my sidekick when I am away >> from my machine to respond to urgent messages etc.... >> >> jim >> >> >> On Jul 1, 2005, at 2:55 PM, Scott Gruby wrote: >> >> >>> >>> On Jul 1, 2005, at 1:12 PM, Ted Lesley wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> I would really love to use the Missing Sync to pull mail from the >>>> sidekick/danger to my AppleMail. Synchronizing the folders would be >>>> on beyond cool. >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> >>> >>> We'll add these to our potential feature list; however, we have no >>> immediate plans to do either one as Danger hasn't exposed the >>> necessary hooks on their server for us to accomplish these. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Scott Gruby >>> Lead Engineer >>> Mark/Space, Inc. >>> >>> >>> Please visit for assistance with >>> Mark/Space products. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list >>> missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com >>> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk >>> >>> To unsubscribe, send an email from your subscribed email address to: >>> missing-sync-hiptop-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com >>> >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk >> >> To unsubscribe, send an email from your subscribed email address to: >> missing-sync-hiptop-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list > missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk > > To unsubscribe, send an email from your subscribed email address to: > missing-sync-hiptop-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com > From agutterja at arch.utah.edu Fri Jul 1 21:22:22 2005 From: agutterja at arch.utah.edu (Jim Agutter) Date: Fri Jul 1 21:22:33 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Sync Mail? In-Reply-To: References: <200506301900.j5UJ0Fk9032348@sparrow.markspace.com> <0099ED8A-7F2F-4DEB-B6FB-64F7C3B43A79@arch.utah.edu> <2FB74ED6-8792-4712-A2E1-F76A10098B09@mac.com> Message-ID: <20106697-452C-439D-85B0-BA8571754F3B@arch.utah.edu> Warren, You can get mail from up to 3 pop accounts. In your email on the sidekick go to the menu and look for the settings tab. Then go to accounts and there you can add what is your primary and secondary etc... When you add you can click an option that leaves it on the server or pulls it off. Hope this helps jim On Jul 1, 2005, at 8:34 PM, Warren Keuffel wrote: > Are you talking about getting mail from tmobile.com or can you get > the Sidekick to get mail from other POP accounts? > > Also, I have not been able to find the menu item on the Sidekick > that tells it to leave mail on the server -- I know how to do it in > Apple Mail, Thunderbird, etc,, but not Sidekick. > > Thanks, > Warren > > On Jul 1, 2005, at 3:26 PM, Curt Broskey wrote: > > >> If the sidekick were to sync with Apple mail you would go over the >> % the sidekick has...but Jim is right, I have my sidekick grab my >> mail and leave it on the server so I get mail in 2 places. Works >> great. >> >> - CB >> >> >> On Jul 1, 2005, at 5:10 PM, Jim Agutter wrote: >> >> >>> I just have my sidekick get the email from the pop3 but leave it >>> on the server. >>> >>> Then my apple mail just gets it from the pop3 and then pulls it >>> off the server leaving the final email archive on my laptop. >>> >>> I really only want to use the email on my sidekick when I am away >>> from my machine to respond to urgent messages etc.... >>> >>> jim >>> >>> >>> On Jul 1, 2005, at 2:55 PM, Scott Gruby wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> On Jul 1, 2005, at 1:12 PM, Ted Lesley wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> I would really love to use the Missing Sync to pull mail from >>>>> the sidekick/danger to my AppleMail. Synchronizing the folders >>>>> would be on beyond cool. >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> We'll add these to our potential feature list; however, we have >>>> no immediate plans to do either one as Danger hasn't exposed the >>>> necessary hooks on their server for us to accomplish these. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Scott Gruby >>>> Lead Engineer >>>> Mark/Space, Inc. >>>> >>>> >>>> Please visit for assistance >>>> with Mark/Space products. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list >>>> missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com >>>> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop- >>>> talk >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe, send an email from your subscribed email address >>>> to: >>>> missing-sync-hiptop-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list >>> missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com >>> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk >>> >>> To unsubscribe, send an email from your subscribed email address to: >>> missing-sync-hiptop-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk >> >> To unsubscribe, send an email from your subscribed email address to: >> missing-sync-hiptop-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list > missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk > > To unsubscribe, send an email from your subscribed email address to: > missing-sync-hiptop-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com > > From jon at schalliol.com Sat Jul 2 13:13:23 2005 From: jon at schalliol.com (Jonathan Schalliol) Date: Sat Jul 2 13:13:25 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Re: Sync Mail? In-Reply-To: <200507021900.j62J0I0f002363@sparrow.markspace.com> References: <200507021900.j62J0I0f002363@sparrow.markspace.com> Message-ID: Here's what I do: It's not the same as a mail sync, but with the amount of mail I get, a sync just wouldn't make sense with such a small amount of storage space. I set my email accounts on the hiptop to POP messages, but leave them on the server. This way, the next time I check on my Mac, I don't miss any messages. Since I also use a Sony Ericsson T637 Bluetooth phone, I use Salling Clicker (http://www.salling.com/) to sense when I'm away from my desk. When I am, an AppleScript I wrote runs and tells Eudora to stop checking mail. This makes my email grabbing seamless: When I'm at my desk I always have all email, but when I physically am not in proximity of my desk, any new messages are first picked up on the hiptop. If you'd like more information or the script I wrote, let me know. I know that this can be done for lesser email clients too, like MS Entourage, and I'm not sure about Apple Mail, but I'd assume you could write one. From bluesgeek at earthlink.net Sun Jul 3 22:30:37 2005 From: bluesgeek at earthlink.net (Dave Therault) Date: Sun Jul 3 22:30:56 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Re: No Support for Nicknames In-Reply-To: <200507020235.j622Zpdp032401@sparrow.markspace.com> Message-ID: > Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 18:28:44 -0700 > From: Brian Hall > Subject: Re: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] No Support for Nicknames > To: The Missing Sync for hiptop Discussion List > > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >> It has been posted here that there is currently no support for nicknames. >> The way I understand it, any nicknames are deleted upon sync. If in fact >> there is no documentation (if I am wrong about that, I apologize in advance) >> and if nicknames are deleted rather than ignored, this would be, in my >> opinion, an irresponsible oversight. I use nicknames routinely as a means of >> creating subcategories or groups (since hiptop OS doesn't support groups). I >> have now lost very important nickname data, and I do not believe I was >> warned that this would happen. > > Are you using 1.x under 10.3, or 2.x under 10.4? > > As others have pointed out, we haven't seen that before (at least in 1.x). > > If this is happening with the 2.0 beta, please complete the form at: > > http://www.markspace.com/support/feedback_hiptop_beta.html > > In order for us to get this into the bug database and assign it to an > engineer. > > Brian I inadvertently ran version 1 under 10.4. I have no more nicknames. I am sorry to report this. From sgruby at markspace.com Sun Jul 3 23:23:44 2005 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Sun Jul 3 23:23:56 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Re: No Support for Nicknames In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <62F5584A-5547-45ED-BF5E-91D948D64A61@markspace.com> On Jul 3, 2005, at 10:30 PM, Dave Therault wrote: > > I inadvertently ran version 1 under 10.4. I have no more nicknames. > I am > sorry to report this. > Version 1 won't do anything under 10.4; it is an iSync plugin and iSync under 10.4 doesn't load it, so this wasn't what caused the issue. Please file a bug report using the method Brian described so we can investigate. Thanks. -- Scott Gruby Lead Engineer Mark/Space, Inc. Please visit for assistance with Mark/Space products. From cc-markspace at underground.net Mon Jul 4 10:57:10 2005 From: cc-markspace at underground.net (Charles Como) Date: Mon Jul 4 10:57:15 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] I messed up Message-ID: <50EF8E7A-2D28-4B8B-8B1A-224B582AA05D@underground.net> When I went to do a first sync (on Tiger), it said it will sync my contact from address book, and my other phone. I thought this was weird, I didn't want duplicates from my other phone, so when the message came up saying the program wanted to access my address book and calendar, I said no to stop it. Now I cannot sync at all! It connects for a second, then stops, says it never synced. I uninstalled the app, trashed preferences, but it won't sync at all. In fact I have now reached my maximum number of connects today, and now I have to wait 24 hours! This is crazy. How do I get it to sync again? Where is that address book and calendar message coming from? I didn't check the don't show this message again, so it shouldn't have disappeared forever. Thanks, Charles From raven at rinzai.com Mon Jul 4 12:15:14 2005 From: raven at rinzai.com (Raven Zachary) Date: Mon Jul 4 12:15:18 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] A request for non-synch data transfer Message-ID: <0AF2A77C-B23F-47BD-AAB7-3241F99DE297@rinzai.com> I've had numerous problems with synch technology over the years, causing data loss and record duplication. In general, I avoid "synching" in favor of master to many data transfer. I have one primary computer where I make all of my updates. I want my various devices to simply hold a copy of that master data, with no updates going back into the master device. This is how I use my iPod with iSync - it's a perfect read-only device for contacts, calendar, and notes. I would like my Sidekick to behave the same way. I have no interest in updating records on the Sidekick directly because it opens up the opportunity for data to get messed up. I've seen this time and time again, on different devices and using different software. Unfortunately, the new beta seems to make overwriting data much more difficult than before. The overwrite function was part of iSync, and now that the program has moved into its own executable, this feature was not replicated (at least not with the same ease as before). I would like a preference in the new version to allow me to determine whether the device will sync or be overwritten every time. Already, I have had problems with accidental editing (fat-fingering a view ends up changing the data, for instance) of a record on the Sidekick and the mistake overwriting the master data on my PowerBook. Am I the only person who works like this? Is the overwrite feature something other people would benefit from? I look forward to the various responses. Thank you. From wkeuffel at xmission.com Mon Jul 4 12:32:59 2005 From: wkeuffel at xmission.com (Warren Keuffel) Date: Mon Jul 4 12:33:03 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] A request for non-synch data transfer In-Reply-To: <0AF2A77C-B23F-47BD-AAB7-3241F99DE297@rinzai.com> References: <0AF2A77C-B23F-47BD-AAB7-3241F99DE297@rinzai.com> Message-ID: <3401aaa10332786bcc179ee91ffa01c8@xmission.com> There are occasions when I definitely would want to work in that mode. Warren On Jul 4, 2005, at 1:15 PM, Raven Zachary wrote: > I've had numerous problems with synch technology over the years, > causing data loss and record duplication. In general, I avoid > "synching" in favor of master to many data transfer. I have one > primary computer where I make all of my updates. I want my various > devices to simply hold a copy of that master data, with no updates > going back into the master device. > > This is how I use my iPod with iSync - it's a perfect read-only > device for contacts, calendar, and notes. I would like my Sidekick to > behave the same way. I have no interest in updating records on the > Sidekick directly because it opens up the opportunity for data to get > messed up. I've seen this time and time again, on different devices > and using different software. > > Unfortunately, the new beta seems to make overwriting data much more > difficult than before. The overwrite function was part of iSync, and > now that the program has moved into its own executable, this feature > was not replicated (at least not with the same ease as before). > > I would like a preference in the new version to allow me to determine > whether the device will sync or be overwritten every time. > > Already, I have had problems with accidental editing (fat-fingering a > view ends up changing the data, for instance) of a record on the > Sidekick and the mistake overwriting the master data on my PowerBook. > > Am I the only person who works like this? Is the overwrite feature > something other people would benefit from? > > I look forward to the various responses. > > Thank you. > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list > missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk > > To unsubscribe, send an email from your subscribed email address to: > missing-sync-hiptop-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com > From sgruby at markspace.com Mon Jul 4 13:36:57 2005 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Mon Jul 4 13:37:09 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] A request for non-synch data transfer In-Reply-To: <0AF2A77C-B23F-47BD-AAB7-3241F99DE297@rinzai.com> References: <0AF2A77C-B23F-47BD-AAB7-3241F99DE297@rinzai.com> Message-ID: <8FF49F83-821A-4195-BF40-A39374ADD2BC@markspace.com> On Jul 4, 2005, at 12:15 PM, Raven Zachary wrote: > Unfortunately, the new beta seems to make overwriting data much > more difficult than before. The overwrite function was part of > iSync, and now that the program has moved into its own executable, > this feature was not replicated (at least not with the same ease as > before). In iSync, you had to Erase all devices to get this behavior and you had to do it on each sync. If we do add an option, it will most likely be a debug type option that happens on the next sync only. While in your case it would be nice to have an option like the Palm conduits have where you can say desktop overwrites handheld for every sync, we have no immediate plans to do that for this product as most users appear to want their data to sync. -- Scott Gruby Lead Engineer Mark/Space, Inc. Please visit for assistance with Mark/Space products. From conrad at fringehead.org Mon Jul 4 15:15:14 2005 From: conrad at fringehead.org (Conrad Heiney) Date: Mon Jul 4 15:15:24 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] More sync failures Message-ID: <657E6F90-1BC5-4AD0-802C-79506EE600C4@fringehead.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Today I had another contact for which changes would not sync from the Mac to the Sidekick. I added an address and the change didn't go up; in fact, the logs looked like no change was happening at all. I deleted the contact on the Sidekick, synced, re-created the contact on the mac, re-synced again, and now the information is complete. It seems like some contacts get "stuck" in a state where they can't be modified. - --- Conrad Heiney conrad@fringehead.org A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man. ? Jedediah Springfield -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCybT2yVm6VkRf/dQRAo9pAJsFoHDBgH8ZdqppCVgFM7Th2J5CDACfZUVm XYwJ6JjfR4D6MGJcPAQiuDc= =IzDK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From babolaypo65 at hotmail.com Mon Jul 4 15:43:04 2005 From: babolaypo65 at hotmail.com (Babo laypo) Date: Mon Jul 4 15:43:06 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Still can't sync since Tiger... Message-ID: Hi all. I still have never been able to sync successfully since updating to Tiger. I've installed the new Missing Sync beta, including the new build. Is there a solution on the horizon? thanks. _________________________________________________________________ Don’t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ From bcriscuolo at markspace.com Tue Jul 5 06:13:59 2005 From: bcriscuolo at markspace.com (Brian M. Criscuolo) Date: Tue Jul 5 06:14:02 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] More sync failures In-Reply-To: <657E6F90-1BC5-4AD0-802C-79506EE600C4@fringehead.org> References: <657E6F90-1BC5-4AD0-802C-79506EE600C4@fringehead.org> Message-ID: Conrad, One thing I've noticed, which is a pain in the neck, is that you have to remember to stop editing a contact in Address Book - effectively saving it - before synchronization. Many times I've added a record, or updated it, synchronized and saw no change on the hiptop. It is because I forgot to click the little Edit button at the bottom of the Address Book window. Arg! Maybe that is what is biting you. The other thing that could be happening is that Address Book has not yet pushed its changes to the Sync Engine. Remember, we get information from the Sync Engine, not Address Book directly! b On Jul 4, 2005, at 6:15 PM, Conrad Heiney wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Today I had another contact for which changes would not sync from > the Mac to the Sidekick. I added an address and the change didn't > go up; in fact, the logs looked like no change was happening at > all. I deleted the contact on the Sidekick, synced, re-created the > contact on the mac, re-synced again, and now the information is > complete. > > It seems like some contacts get "stuck" in a state where they can't > be modified. > > - --- > Conrad Heiney > conrad@fringehead.org > > A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man. ? Jedediah Springfield > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) > > iD8DBQFCybT2yVm6VkRf/dQRAo9pAJsFoHDBgH8ZdqppCVgFM7Th2J5CDACfZUVm > XYwJ6JjfR4D6MGJcPAQiuDc= > =IzDK > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list > missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk > > To unsubscribe, send an email from your subscribed email address to: > missing-sync-hiptop-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com > ******************** Brian M. Criscuolo Senior Software Engineer Mark/Space, Inc. bcriscuolo@markspace.com From bcriscuolo at markspace.com Tue Jul 5 06:26:20 2005 From: bcriscuolo at markspace.com (Brian M. Criscuolo) Date: Tue Jul 5 06:26:25 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] I messed up In-Reply-To: <50EF8E7A-2D28-4B8B-8B1A-224B582AA05D@underground.net> References: <50EF8E7A-2D28-4B8B-8B1A-224B582AA05D@underground.net> Message-ID: <7D082163-8BF7-4D25-8726-AB8EE3897B1C@markspace.com> Charles, This is a rather confusing aspect of Apple's Sync Services (XSync) technology. Instead of everyone being a plugin to iSync (as we still are on 10.3.9) Tiger requires us to be an application - known as a Sync Client. Sync Clients are really cool - multiple clients all talk to one master database of information, synchronizing their changes with everyone else. In theory this is great! In practice, confusing messages like you saw make the experience less than great. What is happening is that the sync engine is providing a dialog asking if you'll allow our application to join the other applications currently synchronizing contact and calendar data. By choosing to not allow that to happen, the sync engine has taken us off the list of allowable clients. Of course, there is no direct way to get us back on the list. Here's what you want to do: Launch Missing Sync for hiptop. Hold down the option key, and choose the "Missing Sync for hiptop" menu, "Debug options" to display some advanced options. Click on "Unregister Sync Clients" and Yes to accept the change. Click OK to close the debug options. At this point, with beta 4 of Missing Sync for hiptop, you'll crash. That's OK. Its fixed for beta 5. Relaunch the application and sync - you'll be asked to allow Missing Sync for hiptop to synchronize again. Good luck. b On Jul 4, 2005, at 1:57 PM, Charles Como wrote: > When I went to do a first sync (on Tiger), it said it will sync my > contact from address book, and my other phone. I thought this was > weird, I didn't want duplicates from my other phone, so when the > message came up saying the program wanted to access my address book > and calendar, I said no to stop it. > > Now I cannot sync at all! It connects for a second, then stops, > says it never synced. I uninstalled the app, trashed preferences, > but it won't sync at all. In fact I have now reached my maximum > number of connects today, and now I have to wait 24 hours! This is > crazy. > > How do I get it to sync again? Where is that address book and > calendar message coming from? I didn't check the don't show this > message again, so it shouldn't have disappeared forever. > > Thanks, > > Charles > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list > missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk > > To unsubscribe, send an email from your subscribed email address to: > missing-sync-hiptop-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com > ******************** Brian M. Criscuolo Senior Software Engineer Mark/Space, Inc. bcriscuolo@markspace.com From bcriscuolo at markspace.com Tue Jul 5 06:41:05 2005 From: bcriscuolo at markspace.com (Brian M. Criscuolo) Date: Tue Jul 5 06:41:08 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] No Support for Nicknames In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3847155A-E6C7-49CF-9AF1-1C3237195771@markspace.com> Dave, I'm synchronizing using beta 4 and cannot reproduce this any which way. Nicknames added or modified on either side (I'm using Danger's web interface for my device changes) make it through just fine. Can you give us some more details? Thanks, b On Jul 1, 2005, at 8:28 PM, Dave Therault wrote: > It has been posted here that there is currently no support for > nicknames. > The way I understand it, any nicknames are deleted upon sync. If in > fact > there is no documentation (if I am wrong about that, I apologize in > advance) > and if nicknames are deleted rather than ignored, this would be, in my > opinion, an irresponsible oversight. I use nicknames routinely as a > means of > creating subcategories or groups (since hiptop OS doesn't support > groups). I > have now lost very important nickname data, and I do not believe I was > warned that this would happen. > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list > missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk > > To unsubscribe, send an email from your subscribed email address to: > missing-sync-hiptop-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com > ******************** Brian M. Criscuolo Senior Software Engineer Mark/Space, Inc. bcriscuolo@markspace.com From conrad at fringehead.org Tue Jul 5 10:59:19 2005 From: conrad at fringehead.org (Conrad Heiney) Date: Tue Jul 5 10:59:22 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] More sync failures In-Reply-To: References: <657E6F90-1BC5-4AD0-802C-79506EE600C4@fringehead.org> Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Thanks, Brian. I think it's most likely to be the first of those two; I'll check for that. I've been making sure to run sync before running Missing Sync, so unless I goofed somehow #2 is less likely. I'll document if it happens again. On Jul 5, 2005, at 6:13 AM, Brian M. Criscuolo wrote: > One thing I've noticed, which is a pain in the neck, is that you > have to remember to stop editing a contact in Address Book - > effectively saving it - before synchronization. Many times I've > added a record, or updated it, synchronized and saw no change on > the hiptop. It is because I forgot to click the little Edit button > at the bottom of the Address Book window. Arg! > > Maybe that is what is biting you. > > The other thing that could be happening is that Address Book has > not yet pushed its changes to the Sync Engine. Remember, we get > information from the Sync Engine, not Address Book directly! - --- Conrad Heiney conrad@fringehead.org A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man. ? Jedediah Springfield -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCysp3yVm6VkRf/dQRAqVaAJ9pye9EHUPVOU/rP29HzkMeKBxbhwCeMn4j F2AvUGy8DhSMXmNMTo/GA+k= =VejH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From bluesgeek at earthlink.net Tue Jul 5 15:05:41 2005 From: bluesgeek at earthlink.net (Dave Therault) Date: Tue Jul 5 15:05:44 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Re: missing-sync-hiptop-talk Digest, Vol 16, Issue 6 In-Reply-To: <200507051802.j65I2ExC031046@sparrow.markspace.com> Message-ID: Dear Brian, I'll put some attention on it in the next couple of days. (I'm actually planning to migrate off of the hiptop in the next few weeks.) Thanks very much for your responsiveness. ...Dave > Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 09:41:05 -0400 > From: "Brian M. Criscuolo" > Subject: Re: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] No Support for Nicknames > To: The Missing Sync for hiptop Discussion List > > Message-ID: <3847155A-E6C7-49CF-9AF1-1C3237195771@markspace.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed > > Dave, > > I'm synchronizing using beta 4 and cannot reproduce this any which > way. Nicknames added or modified on either side (I'm using Danger's > web interface for my device changes) make it through just fine. > > Can you give us some more details? > > Thanks, > b > > On Jul 1, 2005, at 8:28 PM, Dave Therault wrote: > >> It has been posted here that there is currently no support for >> nicknames. >> The way I understand it, any nicknames are deleted upon sync. If in >> fact >> there is no documentation (if I am wrong about that, I apologize in >> advance) >> and if nicknames are deleted rather than ignored, this would be, in my >> opinion, an irresponsible oversight. I use nicknames routinely as a >> means of >> creating subcategories or groups (since hiptop OS doesn't support >> groups). I >> have now lost very important nickname data, and I do not believe I was >> warned that this would happen. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk >> >> To unsubscribe, send an email from your subscribed email address to: >> missing-sync-hiptop-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com >> > > > ******************** > Brian M. Criscuolo > Senior Software Engineer > Mark/Space, Inc. > bcriscuolo@markspace.com > From bcriscuolo at markspace.com Wed Jul 6 12:43:48 2005 From: bcriscuolo at markspace.com (Brian M. Criscuolo) Date: Wed Jul 6 12:43:51 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Missing Sync for hiptop Beta 5 Message-ID: <47E2C682-4D10-4630-AC51-35719A3806D4@markspace.com> Hello all, Missing Sync for hiptop Beta 5 is now available from . This release should clear up a number of issues that have been reported. From the release note: - Fixed issue where duplicate calendars were incorrectly created - Unregister Sync Clients now works properly - Fixed exception when initializing calendar/task sync - Better memory management - Minor bug fixes It is very important to follow the instructions listed below prior to running your first sync with this beta: Important Note: If you are upgrading from 2.0.0 b4, please Unregister the sync services client before syncing. In order to do this launch Missing Sync for hiptop 2.0.0 b5, hold down the option key and select "Debug Options" from the Missing Sync for hiptop menu and click on the Unregister Client button. This will allow Missing Sync for hiptop to start fresh and perform a slow sync. Please report any issues you are having with the form located here: and let us know on this list if you're having success. Thanks! b ******************** Brian M. Criscuolo Senior Software Engineer Mark/Space, Inc. bcriscuolo@markspace.com From conrad at fringehead.org Wed Jul 6 13:19:35 2005 From: conrad at fringehead.org (Conrad Heiney) Date: Wed Jul 6 13:19:43 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Sync with new beta: Sync occurs, then a hang, then success Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I downloaded the new beta and reset the sync per the instructions. A slow sync was then run which worked fine; both contacts and calendar synced. The application then hangs displaying "Processing changes from your Macintosh". The log shows: 7/6/05 12:52:57 Main Application: Task - request: get_sync_anchor 68e5a54b6364f9efdb658ca08ed15bd0 7/6/05 12:52:57 Main Application: Task Result - response: 1120679576853 7/6/05 12:52:57 Main Application: Result - get_sync_anchor: 1120679576853 7/6/05 12:53:13 Main Application: Calling Calendar _countOfRecords 7/6/05 12:53:13 Main Application: Could not read event ids from device. 7/6/05 12:53:13 Main Application: Could not read task ids from device. 7/6/05 12:53:13 Main Application: NSInternalInconsistencyException failed to write the record id map table /Users/ignatz/Library/ Application Support/SyncServices/Local/clientdata/ 0063006f006d002e006d00610072006b00730070006100630065002e006d006900730073 0069006e006700730079006e0063002e0068006900700074006f0070002e00630061006c 0065006e0064006100720073/recordids.syncidmap I quit and ran it again. This time it did a slow sync of the calendar, deleting previous records and pushing all the new ones. This time the calendar sync was reported as successful. Data on the device looks okay. - --- Conrad Heiney conrad@fringehead.org A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man. ? Jedediah Springfield -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCzDzayVm6VkRf/dQRAqzEAKCWVSNf7cq3IOYoR+uRBkWjgfICfQCbB32b 4LVsHizFMdyG1+olr9bDPMg= =2Z0J -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From babolaypo65 at hotmail.com Wed Jul 6 15:15:04 2005 From: babolaypo65 at hotmail.com (Babo laypo) Date: Wed Jul 6 15:15:07 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] build 5. STILL not working for me. Message-ID: I've followed the steps suggested, and build 5 is still crashing. _________________________________________________________________ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement From crussell at markspace.com Wed Jul 6 15:28:55 2005 From: crussell at markspace.com (Catherine Russell) Date: Wed Jul 6 15:29:01 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] build 5. STILL not working for me. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <27B2C63F-9764-4073-A2CD-EA71F010C110@markspace.com> Babo, In order for us to help you best, please submit a request for support by going to: https://www.markspace.com/support/emailsupport.html Include information on what Mac OS you are running and what part of the sync fails or if the whole sync fails. Be sure to include the Missing Sync debug log which you can get by doing the following: On Mac OS 10.3.9 1. Open iSync and select the hiptop device. 2. Hit "command + option + shift + d" and check the turn on logging box 3. In the URL box, enter: http://pimapi.prod1.dngr.net/pimapi 4. Click OK and close the window 5. Launch a sync operation dupicating what you describe below 6. If you see the same problems with the sync, send us the log. 7. The log is located in ~/Library/Logs On Mac OS 10.4.1 1. Launch the Missing Sync standalone application, 2. While holding down the option key, 3. Open the Missing Sync menu, 4. Choose the Debug Options to open the Debug dialog. 5. Check the box to Enable debug logging. Click OK. 6. Launch a sync. If it fails, find the log in ~/Library/Logs and send it to us. On Jul 6, 2005, at 3:15 PM, Babo laypo wrote: > I've followed the steps suggested, and build 5 is still crashing. > > _________________________________________________________________ > On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on > how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx? > cid=Retirement > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list > missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk > > To unsubscribe, send an email from your subscribed email address to: > missing-sync-hiptop-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com > From babolaypo65 at hotmail.com Wed Jul 6 15:40:12 2005 From: babolaypo65 at hotmail.com (Babo laypo) Date: Wed Jul 6 15:40:15 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] build 5. STILL not working for me. Message-ID: Yes, I've done this. Thanks for looking in to it. ____________________ Babo, In order for us to help you best, please submit a request for support by going to: https://www.markspace.com/support/emailsupport.html Include information on what Mac OS you are running and what part of the sync fails or if the whole sync fails. Be sure to include the Missing Sync debug log which you can get by doing the following: _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From bcriscuolo at markspace.com Thu Jul 7 06:16:44 2005 From: bcriscuolo at markspace.com (Brian M. Criscuolo) Date: Thu Jul 7 06:16:47 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Sync with new beta: Sync occurs, then a hang, then success In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Conrad, Hopefully it continues to work correctly. Please let us know. b On Jul 6, 2005, at 4:19 PM, Conrad Heiney wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > I downloaded the new beta and reset the sync per the instructions. > A slow sync was then run which worked fine; both contacts and > calendar synced. The application then hangs displaying "Processing > changes from your Macintosh". The log shows: > > 7/6/05 12:52:57 Main Application: Task - request: version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> > > get_sync_anchor > > > 68e5a54b6364f9efdb658ca08ed15bd0 string> > > > > 7/6/05 12:52:57 Main Application: Task Result - response: version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"? > >1120679576853 param> > 7/6/05 12:52:57 Main Application: Result - get_sync_anchor: > 1120679576853 > 7/6/05 12:53:13 Main Application: Calling Calendar _countOfRecords > 7/6/05 12:53:13 Main Application: Could not read event ids from > device. > 7/6/05 12:53:13 Main Application: Could not read task ids from > device. > 7/6/05 12:53:13 Main Application: > NSInternalInconsistencyException failed to write the record id map > table /Users/ignatz/Library/Application Support/SyncServices/Local/ > clientdata/ > 0063006f006d002e006d00610072006b00730070006100630065002e006d0069007300 > 730069006e006700730079006e0063002e0068006900700074006f0070002e00630061 > 006c0065006e0064006100720073/recordids.syncidmap > > I quit and ran it again. This time it did a slow sync of the > calendar, deleting previous records and pushing all the new ones. > This time the calendar sync was reported as successful. Data on the > device looks okay. > > - --- > Conrad Heiney > conrad@fringehead.org > > A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man. ? Jedediah Springfield > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) > > iD8DBQFCzDzayVm6VkRf/dQRAqzEAKCWVSNf7cq3IOYoR+uRBkWjgfICfQCbB32b > 4LVsHizFMdyG1+olr9bDPMg= > =2Z0J > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list > missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk > > To unsubscribe, send an email from your subscribed email address to: > missing-sync-hiptop-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com > ******************** Brian M. Criscuolo Senior Software Engineer Mark/Space, Inc. bcriscuolo@markspace.com From bcriscuolo at markspace.com Thu Jul 7 07:12:56 2005 From: bcriscuolo at markspace.com (Brian M. Criscuolo) Date: Thu Jul 7 07:12:59 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Beta 5 problems Message-ID: Please report any issues you are having with the form located here: . It is difficult tracking problems via the mailing list, and if properly entered into our support system we'll be better able to server you. Thanks, b ******************** Brian M. Criscuolo Senior Software Engineer Mark/Space, Inc. bcriscuolo@markspace.com From insaniac80 at hotmail.com Thu Jul 7 10:41:20 2005 From: insaniac80 at hotmail.com (Tim Schultz) Date: Thu Jul 7 10:41:25 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] RE: missing-sync-hiptop-talk Digest, Vol 16, Issue 7 In-Reply-To: <200507061902.j66J0FY8004412@sparrow.markspace.com> Message-ID: Well I got B5 and it still does nothing different for me than B4 or B3 did. I hit sync (after unregistering the connection as requested) and it gets to getting changes from Macintosh and freezes. HELP! From cc-markspace at underground.net Thu Jul 7 19:42:44 2005 From: cc-markspace at underground.net (Charles Como) Date: Thu Jul 7 19:42:51 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Re: missing-sync-hiptop-talk Digest, Vol 16, Issue 8 In-Reply-To: <200507071900.j67J0Hx0003222@sparrow.markspace.com> References: <200507071900.j67J0Hx0003222@sparrow.markspace.com> Message-ID: I still cannot sync. The option-debug-unregister thing did nothing. I deleted prefs as well.. no go. Charles On Jul 7, 2005, at 12:00 PM, missing-sync-hiptop-talk- request@lists.markspace.com wrote: > Send missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list submissions to > missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop- > talk > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > missing-sync-hiptop-talk-request@lists.markspace.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > missing-sync-hiptop-talk-owner@lists.markspace.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of missing-sync-hiptop-talk digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Missing Sync for hiptop Beta 5 (Brian M. Criscuolo) > 2. Sync with new beta: Sync occurs, then a hang, then success > (Conrad Heiney) > 3. build 5. STILL not working for me. (Babo laypo) > 4. Re: build 5. STILL not working for me. (Catherine Russell) > 5. build 5. STILL not working for me. (Babo laypo) > 6. Re: Sync with new beta: Sync occurs, then a hang, then > success (Brian M. Criscuolo) > 7. Beta 5 problems (Brian M. Criscuolo) > 8. RE: missing-sync-hiptop-talk Digest, Vol 16, Issue 7 (Tim > Schultz) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 15:43:48 -0400 > From: "Brian M. Criscuolo" > Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Missing Sync for hiptop Beta 5 > To: The Missing Sync for hiptop Discussion List > > Message-ID: <47E2C682-4D10-4630-AC51-35719A3806D4@markspace.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed > > Hello all, > > Missing Sync for hiptop Beta 5 is now available from www.markspace.com/testing>. This release should clear up a number of > issues that have been reported. > > From the release note: > - Fixed issue where duplicate calendars were incorrectly created > - Unregister Sync Clients now works properly > - Fixed exception when initializing calendar/task sync > - Better memory management > - Minor bug fixes > > It is very important to follow the instructions listed below prior to > running your first sync with this beta: > > Important Note: If you are upgrading from 2.0.0 b4, please Unregister > the sync services client before syncing. In order to do this launch > Missing Sync for hiptop 2.0.0 b5, hold down the option key and select > "Debug Options" from the Missing Sync for hiptop menu and click on > the Unregister Client button. This will allow Missing Sync for hiptop > to start fresh and perform a slow sync. > > Please report any issues you are having with the form located here: > and let > us know on this list if you're having success. > > Thanks! > b > > ******************** > Brian M. Criscuolo > Senior Software Engineer > Mark/Space, Inc. > bcriscuolo@markspace.com > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 13:19:35 -0700 > From: Conrad Heiney > Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Sync with new beta: Sync occurs, > then a hang, then success > To: missing sync > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; delsp=yes; format=flowed > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > I downloaded the new beta and reset the sync per the instructions. A > slow sync was then run which worked fine; both contacts and calendar > synced. The application then hangs displaying "Processing changes > from your Macintosh". The log shows: > > 7/6/05 12:52:57 Main Application: Task - request: version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> > > get_sync_anchor > > > 68e5a54b6364f9efdb658ca08ed15bd0 string> > > > > 7/6/05 12:52:57 Main Application: Task Result - response: version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"? > >> 1120679576853> > param> > 7/6/05 12:52:57 Main Application: Result - get_sync_anchor: > 1120679576853 > 7/6/05 12:53:13 Main Application: Calling Calendar _countOfRecords > 7/6/05 12:53:13 Main Application: Could not read event ids from > device. > 7/6/05 12:53:13 Main Application: Could not read task ids from > device. > 7/6/05 12:53:13 Main Application: NSInternalInconsistencyException > failed to write the record id map table /Users/ignatz/Library/ > Application Support/SyncServices/Local/clientdata/ > 0063006f006d002e006d00610072006b00730070006100630065002e006d0069007300 > 73 > 0069006e006700730079006e0063002e0068006900700074006f0070002e0063006100 > 6c > 0065006e0064006100720073/recordids.syncidmap > > I quit and ran it again. This time it did a slow sync of the > calendar, deleting previous records and pushing all the new ones. > This time the calendar sync was reported as successful. Data on the > device looks okay. > > - --- > Conrad Heiney > conrad@fringehead.org > > A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man. ??? Jedediah Springfield > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) > > iD8DBQFCzDzayVm6VkRf/dQRAqzEAKCWVSNf7cq3IOYoR+uRBkWjgfICfQCbB32b > 4LVsHizFMdyG1+olr9bDPMg= > =2Z0J > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 22:15:04 +0000 > From: "Babo laypo" > Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] build 5. STILL not working for me. > To: missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed > > I've followed the steps suggested, and build 5 is still crashing. > > _________________________________________________________________ > On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on > how to > get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 15:28:55 -0700 > From: Catherine Russell > Subject: Re: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] build 5. STILL not working for > me. > To: The Missing Sync for hiptop Discussion List > > Message-ID: <27B2C63F-9764-4073-A2CD-EA71F010C110@markspace.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed > > Babo, > > In order for us to help you best, please submit a request for support > by going to: > > https://www.markspace.com/support/emailsupport.html > > Include information on what Mac OS you are running and what part of > the sync fails or if the whole sync fails. > > Be sure to include the Missing Sync debug log which you can get by > doing the following: > > On Mac OS 10.3.9 > > 1. Open iSync and select the hiptop device. > 2. Hit "command + option + shift + d" and check the turn on logging > box > 3. In the URL box, enter: http://pimapi.prod1.dngr.net/pimapi > 4. Click OK and close the window > 5. Launch a sync operation dupicating what you describe below > 6. If you see the same problems with the sync, send us the log. > 7. The log is located in ~/Library/Logs > > On Mac OS 10.4.1 > > 1. Launch the Missing Sync standalone application, > 2. While holding down the option key, > 3. Open the Missing Sync menu, > 4. Choose the Debug Options to open the Debug dialog. > 5. Check the box to Enable debug logging. Click OK. > 6. Launch a sync. If it fails, find the log in ~/Library/Logs and > send it to us. > > > On Jul 6, 2005, at 3:15 PM, Babo laypo wrote: > > >> I've followed the steps suggested, and build 5 is still crashing. >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on >> how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx? >> cid=Retirement >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk >> >> To unsubscribe, send an email from your subscribed email address to: >> missing-sync-hiptop-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com >> >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 22:40:12 +0000 > From: "Babo laypo" > Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] build 5. STILL not working for me. > To: missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed > > Yes, I've done this. Thanks for looking in to it. > > ____________________ > Babo, > > In order for us to help you best, please submit a request for support > by going to: > > https://www.markspace.com/support/emailsupport.html > > Include information on what Mac OS you are running and what part of > the sync fails or if the whole sync fails. > > Be sure to include the Missing Sync debug log which you can get by > doing the following: > > _________________________________________________________________ > Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - > it's FREE! > http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:16:44 -0400 > From: "Brian M. Criscuolo" > Subject: Re: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Sync with new beta: Sync > occurs, then a hang, then success > To: The Missing Sync for hiptop Discussion List > > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; > format=flowed > > Conrad, > > Hopefully it continues to work correctly. Please let us know. > > b > > On Jul 6, 2005, at 4:19 PM, Conrad Heiney wrote: > > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> I downloaded the new beta and reset the sync per the instructions. >> A slow sync was then run which worked fine; both contacts and >> calendar synced. The application then hangs displaying "Processing >> changes from your Macintosh". The log shows: >> >> 7/6/05 12:52:57 Main Application: Task - request: > version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> >> >> get_sync_anchor >> >> >> 68e5a54b6364f9efdb658ca08ed15bd0> string> >> >> >> >> 7/6/05 12:52:57 Main Application: Task Result - response: > version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"? >> >>> 1120679576853>> >> param> >> 7/6/05 12:52:57 Main Application: Result - get_sync_anchor: >> 1120679576853 >> 7/6/05 12:53:13 Main Application: Calling Calendar _countOfRecords >> 7/6/05 12:53:13 Main Application: Could not read event ids from >> device. >> 7/6/05 12:53:13 Main Application: Could not read task ids from >> device. >> 7/6/05 12:53:13 Main Application: >> NSInternalInconsistencyException failed to write the record id map >> table /Users/ignatz/Library/Application Support/SyncServices/Local/ >> clientdata/ >> 0063006f006d002e006d00610072006b00730070006100630065002e006d006900730 >> 0 >> 730069006e006700730079006e0063002e0068006900700074006f0070002e0063006 >> 1 >> 006c0065006e0064006100720073/recordids.syncidmap >> >> I quit and ran it again. This time it did a slow sync of the >> calendar, deleting previous records and pushing all the new ones. >> This time the calendar sync was reported as successful. Data on the >> device looks okay. >> >> - --- >> Conrad Heiney >> conrad@fringehead.org >> >> A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man. ? Jedediah Springfield >> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) >> >> iD8DBQFCzDzayVm6VkRf/dQRAqzEAKCWVSNf7cq3IOYoR+uRBkWjgfICfQCbB32b >> 4LVsHizFMdyG1+olr9bDPMg= >> =2Z0J >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk >> >> To unsubscribe, send an email from your subscribed email address to: >> missing-sync-hiptop-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com >> >> > > > ******************** > Brian M. Criscuolo > Senior Software Engineer > Mark/Space, Inc. > bcriscuolo@markspace.com > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:12:56 -0400 > From: "Brian M. Criscuolo" > Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Beta 5 problems > To: The Missing Sync for hiptop Discussion List > > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed > > Please report any issues you are having with the form located here: > . It is > difficult tracking problems via the mailing list, and if properly > entered into our support system we'll be better able to server you. > > Thanks, > b > > ******************** > Brian M. Criscuolo > Senior Software Engineer > Mark/Space, Inc. > bcriscuolo@markspace.com > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 10:41:20 -0700 > From: "Tim Schultz" > Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] RE: missing-sync-hiptop-talk > Digest, Vol 16, Issue 7 > To: missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed > > Well I got B5 and it still does nothing different for me than B4 or > B3 did. > I hit sync (after unregistering the connection as requested) and it > gets to > getting changes from Macintosh and freezes. HELP! > > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list > missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk > > > End of missing-sync-hiptop-talk Digest, Vol 16, Issue 8 > ******************************************************* > From curt at mac.com Thu Jul 7 20:28:00 2005 From: curt at mac.com (Curt Broskey) Date: Thu Jul 7 20:28:06 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Re: missing-sync-hiptop-talk Digest, Vol 16, Issue 8 In-Reply-To: References: <200507071900.j67J0Hx0003222@sparrow.markspace.com> Message-ID: Make sure you summit your log or problems on the website not here.. just a helpful suggestion... - Curt On Jul 7, 2005, at 10:42 PM, Charles Como wrote: > I still cannot sync. The option-debug-unregister thing did nothing. > > I deleted prefs as well.. no go. > > Charles > > On Jul 7, 2005, at 12:00 PM, missing-sync-hiptop-talk- > request@lists.markspace.com wrote: > > >> Send missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list submissions to >> missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync- >> hiptop-talk >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> missing-sync-hiptop-talk-request@lists.markspace.com >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> missing-sync-hiptop-talk-owner@lists.markspace.com >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of missing-sync-hiptop-talk digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Missing Sync for hiptop Beta 5 (Brian M. Criscuolo) >> 2. Sync with new beta: Sync occurs, then a hang, then success >> (Conrad Heiney) >> 3. build 5. STILL not working for me. (Babo laypo) >> 4. Re: build 5. STILL not working for me. (Catherine Russell) >> 5. build 5. STILL not working for me. (Babo laypo) >> 6. Re: Sync with new beta: Sync occurs, then a hang, then >> success (Brian M. Criscuolo) >> 7. Beta 5 problems (Brian M. Criscuolo) >> 8. RE: missing-sync-hiptop-talk Digest, Vol 16, Issue 7 (Tim >> Schultz) >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> - >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 15:43:48 -0400 >> From: "Brian M. Criscuolo" >> Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Missing Sync for hiptop Beta 5 >> To: The Missing Sync for hiptop Discussion List >> >> Message-ID: <47E2C682-4D10-4630-AC51-35719A3806D4@markspace.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed >> >> Hello all, >> >> Missing Sync for hiptop Beta 5 is now available from > www.markspace.com/testing>. This release should clear up a number of >> issues that have been reported. >> >> From the release note: >> - Fixed issue where duplicate calendars were incorrectly created >> - Unregister Sync Clients now works properly >> - Fixed exception when initializing calendar/task sync >> - Better memory management >> - Minor bug fixes >> >> It is very important to follow the instructions listed below prior to >> running your first sync with this beta: >> >> Important Note: If you are upgrading from 2.0.0 b4, please Unregister >> the sync services client before syncing. In order to do this launch >> Missing Sync for hiptop 2.0.0 b5, hold down the option key and select >> "Debug Options" from the Missing Sync for hiptop menu and click on >> the Unregister Client button. This will allow Missing Sync for hiptop >> to start fresh and perform a slow sync. >> >> Please report any issues you are having with the form located here: >> and let >> us know on this list if you're having success. >> >> Thanks! >> b >> >> ******************** >> Brian M. Criscuolo >> Senior Software Engineer >> Mark/Space, Inc. >> bcriscuolo@markspace.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 13:19:35 -0700 >> From: Conrad Heiney >> Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Sync with new beta: Sync occurs, >> then a hang, then success >> To: missing sync >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; delsp=yes; format=flowed >> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> I downloaded the new beta and reset the sync per the instructions. A >> slow sync was then run which worked fine; both contacts and calendar >> synced. The application then hangs displaying "Processing changes >> from your Macintosh". The log shows: >> >> 7/6/05 12:52:57 Main Application: Task - request: > version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> >> >> get_sync_anchor >> >> >> 68e5a54b6364f9efdb658ca08ed15bd0> string> >> >> >> >> 7/6/05 12:52:57 Main Application: Task Result - response: > version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"? >> >> >>> 1120679576853>> >>> >> param> >> 7/6/05 12:52:57 Main Application: Result - get_sync_anchor: >> 1120679576853 >> 7/6/05 12:53:13 Main Application: Calling Calendar _countOfRecords >> 7/6/05 12:53:13 Main Application: Could not read event ids from >> device. >> 7/6/05 12:53:13 Main Application: Could not read task ids from >> device. >> 7/6/05 12:53:13 Main Application: NSInternalInconsistencyException >> failed to write the record id map table /Users/ignatz/Library/ >> Application Support/SyncServices/Local/clientdata/ >> 0063006f006d002e006d00610072006b00730070006100630065002e006d006900730 >> 073 >> 0069006e006700730079006e0063002e0068006900700074006f0070002e006300610 >> 06c >> 0065006e0064006100720073/recordids.syncidmap >> >> I quit and ran it again. This time it did a slow sync of the >> calendar, deleting previous records and pushing all the new ones. >> This time the calendar sync was reported as successful. Data on the >> device looks okay. >> >> - --- >> Conrad Heiney >> conrad@fringehead.org >> >> A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man. ??? Jedediah Springfield >> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) >> >> iD8DBQFCzDzayVm6VkRf/dQRAqzEAKCWVSNf7cq3IOYoR+uRBkWjgfICfQCbB32b >> 4LVsHizFMdyG1+olr9bDPMg= >> =2Z0J >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 22:15:04 +0000 >> From: "Babo laypo" >> Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] build 5. STILL not working for >> me. >> To: missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed >> >> I've followed the steps suggested, and build 5 is still crashing. >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on >> how to >> get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 4 >> Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 15:28:55 -0700 >> From: Catherine Russell >> Subject: Re: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] build 5. STILL not working >> for >> me. >> To: The Missing Sync for hiptop Discussion List >> >> Message-ID: <27B2C63F-9764-4073-A2CD-EA71F010C110@markspace.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed >> >> Babo, >> >> In order for us to help you best, please submit a request for support >> by going to: >> >> https://www.markspace.com/support/emailsupport.html >> >> Include information on what Mac OS you are running and what part of >> the sync fails or if the whole sync fails. >> >> Be sure to include the Missing Sync debug log which you can get by >> doing the following: >> >> On Mac OS 10.3.9 >> >> 1. Open iSync and select the hiptop device. >> 2. Hit "command + option + shift + d" and check the turn on >> logging box >> 3. In the URL box, enter: http://pimapi.prod1.dngr.net/pimapi >> 4. Click OK and close the window >> 5. Launch a sync operation dupicating what you describe below >> 6. If you see the same problems with the sync, send us the log. >> 7. The log is located in ~/Library/Logs >> >> On Mac OS 10.4.1 >> >> 1. Launch the Missing Sync standalone application, >> 2. While holding down the option key, >> 3. Open the Missing Sync menu, >> 4. Choose the Debug Options to open the Debug dialog. >> 5. Check the box to Enable debug logging. Click OK. >> 6. Launch a sync. If it fails, find the log in ~/Library/Logs and >> send it to us. >> >> >> On Jul 6, 2005, at 3:15 PM, Babo laypo wrote: >> >> >> >>> I've followed the steps suggested, and build 5 is still crashing. >>> >>> _________________________________________________________________ >>> On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on >>> how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx? >>> cid=Retirement >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list >>> missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com >>> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk >>> >>> To unsubscribe, send an email from your subscribed email address to: >>> missing-sync-hiptop-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 5 >> Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 22:40:12 +0000 >> From: "Babo laypo" >> Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] build 5. STILL not working for >> me. >> To: missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed >> >> Yes, I've done this. Thanks for looking in to it. >> >> ____________________ >> Babo, >> >> In order for us to help you best, please submit a request for support >> by going to: >> >> https://www.markspace.com/support/emailsupport.html >> >> Include information on what Mac OS you are running and what part of >> the sync fails or if the whole sync fails. >> >> Be sure to include the Missing Sync debug log which you can get by >> doing the following: >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - >> it's FREE! >> http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 6 >> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:16:44 -0400 >> From: "Brian M. Criscuolo" >> Subject: Re: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Sync with new beta: Sync >> occurs, then a hang, then success >> To: The Missing Sync for hiptop Discussion List >> >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; >> format=flowed >> >> Conrad, >> >> Hopefully it continues to work correctly. Please let us know. >> >> b >> >> On Jul 6, 2005, at 4:19 PM, Conrad Heiney wrote: >> >> >> >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>> Hash: SHA1 >>> >>> I downloaded the new beta and reset the sync per the instructions. >>> A slow sync was then run which worked fine; both contacts and >>> calendar synced. The application then hangs displaying "Processing >>> changes from your Macintosh". The log shows: >>> >>> 7/6/05 12:52:57 Main Application: Task - request: >> version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> >>> >>> get_sync_anchor >>> >>> >>> 68e5a54b6364f9efdb658ca08ed15bd0>> string> >>> >>> >>> >>> 7/6/05 12:52:57 Main Application: Task Result - response: >> version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"? >>> >>> >>>> 1120679576853>>> >>>> >>> param> >>> 7/6/05 12:52:57 Main Application: Result - get_sync_anchor: >>> 1120679576853 >>> 7/6/05 12:53:13 Main Application: Calling Calendar _countOfRecords >>> 7/6/05 12:53:13 Main Application: Could not read event ids from >>> device. >>> 7/6/05 12:53:13 Main Application: Could not read task ids from >>> device. >>> 7/6/05 12:53:13 Main Application: >>> NSInternalInconsistencyException failed to write the record id map >>> table /Users/ignatz/Library/Application Support/SyncServices/Local/ >>> clientdata/ >>> 0063006f006d002e006d00610072006b00730070006100630065002e006d00690073 >>> 00 >>> 730069006e006700730079006e0063002e0068006900700074006f0070002e006300 >>> 61 >>> 006c0065006e0064006100720073/recordids.syncidmap >>> >>> I quit and ran it again. This time it did a slow sync of the >>> calendar, deleting previous records and pushing all the new ones. >>> This time the calendar sync was reported as successful. Data on the >>> device looks okay. >>> >>> - --- >>> Conrad Heiney >>> conrad@fringehead.org >>> >>> A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man. ? Jedediah Springfield >>> >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >>> Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) >>> >>> iD8DBQFCzDzayVm6VkRf/dQRAqzEAKCWVSNf7cq3IOYoR+uRBkWjgfICfQCbB32b >>> 4LVsHizFMdyG1+olr9bDPMg= >>> =2Z0J >>> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list >>> missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com >>> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk >>> >>> To unsubscribe, send an email from your subscribed email address to: >>> missing-sync-hiptop-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> ******************** >> Brian M. Criscuolo >> Senior Software Engineer >> Mark/Space, Inc. >> bcriscuolo@markspace.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 7 >> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:12:56 -0400 >> From: "Brian M. Criscuolo" >> Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Beta 5 problems >> To: The Missing Sync for hiptop Discussion List >> >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed >> >> Please report any issues you are having with the form located here: >> . It is >> difficult tracking problems via the mailing list, and if properly >> entered into our support system we'll be better able to server you. >> >> Thanks, >> b >> >> ******************** >> Brian M. Criscuolo >> Senior Software Engineer >> Mark/Space, Inc. >> bcriscuolo@markspace.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 8 >> Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 10:41:20 -0700 >> From: "Tim Schultz" >> Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] RE: missing-sync-hiptop-talk >> Digest, Vol 16, Issue 7 >> To: missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed >> >> Well I got B5 and it still does nothing different for me than B4 >> or B3 did. >> I hit sync (after unregistering the connection as requested) and >> it gets to >> getting changes from Macintosh and freezes. HELP! >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk >> >> >> End of missing-sync-hiptop-talk Digest, Vol 16, Issue 8 >> ******************************************************* >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list > missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk > > To unsubscribe, send an email from your subscribed email address to: > missing-sync-hiptop-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com > From conrad at fringehead.org Thu Jul 7 20:39:43 2005 From: conrad at fringehead.org (Conrad Heiney) Date: Thu Jul 7 20:39:57 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Re: missing-sync-hiptop-talk Digest, Vol 16, Issue 8 In-Reply-To: References: <200507071900.j67J0Hx0003222@sparrow.markspace.com> Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Some of us have been doing both, as we've been carrying on conversations here about the issues. :) On Jul 7, 2005, at 8:28 PM, Curt Broskey wrote: > Make sure you summit your log or problems on the website not here.. > > just a helpful suggestion... > > > - Curt - --- Conrad Heiney conrad@fringehead.org A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man. ? Jedediah Springfield -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCzfWIyVm6VkRf/dQRApm8AJ9To2KeN+hOsBGxWr/jOrxdtMJ/dQCeJJqk i6or9xdN+eL3A/0rzLq8UW0= =Qb9Y -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From curt at mac.com Thu Jul 7 21:29:03 2005 From: curt at mac.com (Curt Broskey) Date: Thu Jul 7 21:29:09 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Re: missing-sync-hiptop-talk Digest, Vol 16, Issue 8 In-Reply-To: References: <200507071900.j67J0Hx0003222@sparrow.markspace.com> Message-ID: <81794FAC-40E7-46BB-93E0-0DC7C528AD2D@mac.com> I know, it was only a reminder.. to make sure it gets in to the beta website. I am having issues also.. but I feel we are getting closer to a working sync. :-) On Jul 7, 2005, at 11:39 PM, Conrad Heiney wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Some of us have been doing both, as we've been carrying on > conversations here about the issues. :) > > On Jul 7, 2005, at 8:28 PM, Curt Broskey wrote: > > >> Make sure you summit your log or problems on the website not here.. >> >> just a helpful suggestion... >> >> >> - Curt >> > > - --- > Conrad Heiney > conrad@fringehead.org > > A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man. ? Jedediah Springfield > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) > > iD8DBQFCzfWIyVm6VkRf/dQRApm8AJ9To2KeN+hOsBGxWr/jOrxdtMJ/dQCeJJqk > i6or9xdN+eL3A/0rzLq8UW0= > =Qb9Y > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list > missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk > > To unsubscribe, send an email from your subscribed email address to: > missing-sync-hiptop-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com > From bcriscuolo at markspace.com Fri Jul 8 05:06:19 2005 From: bcriscuolo at markspace.com (Brian M. Criscuolo) Date: Fri Jul 8 05:06:23 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Re: missing-sync-hiptop-talk Digest, Vol 16, Issue 8 In-Reply-To: <81794FAC-40E7-46BB-93E0-0DC7C528AD2D@mac.com> References: <200507071900.j67J0Hx0003222@sparrow.markspace.com> <81794FAC-40E7-46BB-93E0-0DC7C528AD2D@mac.com> Message-ID: On Jul 8, 2005, at 12:29 AM, Curt Broskey wrote: > I know, it was only a reminder.. to make sure it gets in to the > beta website. I am having issues also.. but I feel we are getting > closer to a working sync. > > :-) I like that positive attitude! ******************** Brian M. Criscuolo Senior Software Engineer Mark/Space, Inc. bcriscuolo@markspace.com From jon at schalliol.com Thu Jul 7 23:25:23 2005 From: jon at schalliol.com (Jonathan Schalliol) Date: Fri Jul 8 06:58:38 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Re: Curt Broskey's Suggestion In-Reply-To: <200507080330.j683TrLI032301@sparrow.markspace.com> References: <200507080330.j683TrLI032301@sparrow.markspace.com> Message-ID: Agreed, and that's what I did. It sounds like Brian Criscuolo is working on the issue I had and hopes to have a fix soon. Just a helpful couple of suggestions though, only quote the text you need and do provide a subject line. >Make sure you summit your log or problems on the website not here.. > >just a helpful suggestion... > >- Curt From bcriscuolo at markspace.com Fri Jul 8 13:49:02 2005 From: bcriscuolo at markspace.com (Brian M. Criscuolo) Date: Fri Jul 8 13:49:07 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Re: Curt Broskey's Suggestion In-Reply-To: References: <200507080330.j683TrLI032301@sparrow.markspace.com> Message-ID: Everyone, Yes, a fix is in the works - you'll have to hold off until early next week so that it can be verified and fully tested, but we'll have a useable release yet! b On Jul 8, 2005, at 2:25 AM, Jonathan Schalliol wrote: > Agreed, and that's what I did. It sounds like Brian Criscuolo is > working on the issue I had and hopes to have a fix soon. Just a > helpful couple of suggestions though, only quote the text you need > and do provide a subject line. > > >> Make sure you summit your log or problems on the website not here.. >> >> just a helpful suggestion... >> >> - Curt >> > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list > missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk > > To unsubscribe, send an email from your subscribed email address to: > missing-sync-hiptop-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com > ******************** Brian M. Criscuolo Senior Software Engineer Mark/Space, Inc. bcriscuolo@markspace.com From jon at schalliol.com Mon Jul 11 10:39:48 2005 From: jon at schalliol.com (Jonathan Schalliol) Date: Mon Jul 11 10:39:43 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Now With Separate Application, Timed Updates? Message-ID: Now that we have a separate application, it seems like adding timed updates could be doable. This may have been asked about, so my apologies if this has already been requested after the betas shipped. If T-Mobile allows x syncs per day, it would be nice to select up to that many to take place throughout the day you work, or perhaps a morning and evening. Then perhaps this could even be done in the background, but I'm not too picky :-). I could use a ProximitySync script from Salling Clicker to do this I believe, if MS for hiptop is Apple Scriptable and I can be provided the commands. From conrad at fringehead.org Mon Jul 11 13:52:35 2005 From: conrad at fringehead.org (Conrad Heiney) Date: Mon Jul 11 13:52:46 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] new iSync 2.1 Message-ID: <1B76A030-4E86-415B-91DC-D783B8E70E9F@fringehead.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Is there any reason not to install the Apple update to iSync 2.1, or any particularly good reason to do so in relation to Missing Sync for Hiptop? thanks - --- Conrad Heiney conrad@fringehead.org A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man. ? Jedediah Springfield -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) iD8DBQFC0twYyVm6VkRf/dQRAibDAJ0dC+akq5FbcqpPhULxWkT5/CdSjQCfa5Is Ic8EdnhuSuPGTtIsNG58thI= =+2Ci -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From sgruby at markspace.com Mon Jul 11 14:23:05 2005 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Mon Jul 11 14:23:07 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Missing Sync for hiptop Beta 2.0.0 b6 Message-ID: Missing Sync for hiptop Beta 2.0.0 b6 is now available from . This release should clear up a number of issues that have been reported. From the release notes: - Added debug option to force desktop to overwrite device - Addressed issues where a large number of records weren't syncing to the device It is very important to follow the instructions listed below prior to running your first sync with this beta: Important Note: If you are upgrading from 2.0.0 b4 or b5, please Unregister the sync services client before syncing. In order to do this launch Missing Sync for hiptop 2.0.0 b6, hold down the option key and select "Debug Options" from the Missing Sync for hiptop menu and click on the Unregister Client button. This will allow Missing Sync for hiptop to start fresh and perform a slow sync. Please report any issues you are having with the form located here: and let us know on this list if you're having success. Thanks! -- Scott Gruby Lead Engineer Mark/Space, Inc. Please visit for assistance with Mark/Space products. From brian_hall at markspace.com Mon Jul 11 14:48:01 2005 From: brian_hall at markspace.com (Brian Hall) Date: Mon Jul 11 14:49:17 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] new iSync 2.1 In-Reply-To: <1B76A030-4E86-415B-91DC-D783B8E70E9F@fringehead.org> References: <1B76A030-4E86-415B-91DC-D783B8E70E9F@fringehead.org> Message-ID: At 1:52 PM -0700 7/11/05, Conrad Heiney wrote: >Is there any reason not to install the Apple update to iSync 2.1, or >any particularly good reason to do so in relation to Missing Sync for >Hiptop? We don't have a recommendation either way at this point. If you are conservative and/or want to wait for a recommendation, you'll need to wait a few days until we have had more time to take a look at it. According to the brief release notes, it only mentions adding support for additional mobile phones - no mention of bug fixes or code changes is made. However that doesn't mean that none were made. Brian -- _____________________________________________________________________ Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 654 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 Los Gatos, CA 95030-4360 From crussell at markspace.com Mon Jul 11 14:57:05 2005 From: crussell at markspace.com (Catherine Russell) Date: Mon Jul 11 14:57:01 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] new iSync 2.1 In-Reply-To: References: <1B76A030-4E86-415B-91DC-D783B8E70E9F@fringehead.org> Message-ID: <21EE07EF-771A-4188-B0E7-0328E7EC06F5@markspace.com> As the iSync update is for Mac OS 10.4 it shouldn't matter whether you update to version 2.1, in relation to the Missing Sync for hiptop. The Missing Sync for hiptop is a standalone application on Mac OS 10.4.1 and not reliant on iSync. Users of the Missing Sync for hiptop on Mac OS 10.3.9 do use iSync for functionality. However, the new iSync 2.1 is not intended for Mac OS 10.3.9 users Catherine On Jul 11, 2005, at 2:48 PM, Brian Hall wrote: > At 1:52 PM -0700 7/11/05, Conrad Heiney wrote: > >> Is there any reason not to install the Apple update to iSync 2.1, or >> any particularly good reason to do so in relation to Missing Sync for >> Hiptop? >> > > We don't have a recommendation either way at this point. If you are > conservative and/or want to wait for a recommendation, you'll need > to wait > a few days until we have had more time to take a look at it. > > According to the brief release notes, it only mentions adding > support for > additional mobile phones - no mention of bug fixes or code changes > is made. > However that doesn't mean that none were made. > > Brian > > > -- > _____________________________________________________________________ > Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 > 654 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 > Los Gatos, CA 95030-4360 > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list > missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk > > To unsubscribe, send an email from your subscribed email address to: > missing-sync-hiptop-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com > From curt at mac.com Mon Jul 11 15:50:29 2005 From: curt at mac.com (Curt Broskey) Date: Mon Jul 11 15:50:35 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Missing Sync for hiptop Beta 2.0.0 b6 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1E2D25EE-5870-4D51-B767-D21D6ED0EC18@mac.com> I have two words.. Hell yeah! Seems to of sync'd my calendar once and contacts with-out issue...BUT.. I only got one successful sync from the calendars. The program never crashed or anything. It just didn't sync a second time. I am trying a few things....I am trying to sync 4 calendars in iCal...stay tuned! any one else experience this? - Curt On Jul 11, 2005, at 5:23 PM, Scott Gruby wrote: > Missing Sync for hiptop Beta 2.0.0 b6 is now available from www.markspace.com/testing>. This release should clear up a number > of issues that have been reported. > > From the release notes: > - Added debug option to force desktop to overwrite device > - Addressed issues where a large number of records weren't syncing > to the device > > It is very important to follow the instructions listed below prior > to running your first sync with this beta: > > Important Note: If you are upgrading from 2.0.0 b4 or b5, please > Unregister the sync services client before syncing. In order to do > this launch Missing Sync for hiptop 2.0.0 b6, hold down the option > key and select "Debug Options" from the Missing Sync for hiptop > menu and click on the Unregister Client button. This will allow > Missing Sync for hiptop to start fresh and perform a slow sync. > > Please report any issues you are having with the form located here: > and > let us know on this list if you're having success. > > Thanks! > > > -- > Scott Gruby > Lead Engineer > Mark/Space, Inc. > > > Please visit for assistance > with Mark/Space products. > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list > missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk > > To unsubscribe, send an email from your subscribed email address to: > missing-sync-hiptop-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com > From curt at mac.com Mon Jul 11 15:59:33 2005 From: curt at mac.com (Curt Broskey) Date: Mon Jul 11 15:59:39 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Missing Sync for hiptop Beta 2.0.0 b6 In-Reply-To: <1E2D25EE-5870-4D51-B767-D21D6ED0EC18@mac.com> References: <1E2D25EE-5870-4D51-B767-D21D6ED0EC18@mac.com> Message-ID: Well an update to my sync... looks like I can't sync anymore today.. I forgot there is a limit on the times you can sync. Anyone know how many that is? It really sucks for testing and beta testing. - Curt On Jul 11, 2005, at 6:50 PM, Curt Broskey wrote: > I have two words.. Hell yeah! Seems to of sync'd my calendar once > and contacts with-out issue...BUT.. I only got one successful sync > from the calendars. The program never crashed or anything. It > just didn't sync a second time. I am trying a few things....I am > trying to sync 4 calendars in iCal...stay tuned! > > > any one else experience this? > > - Curt > > On Jul 11, 2005, at 5:23 PM, Scott Gruby wrote: > > >> Missing Sync for hiptop Beta 2.0.0 b6 is now available from >> . This release should clear up a >> number of issues that have been reported. >> >> From the release notes: >> - Added debug option to force desktop to overwrite device >> - Addressed issues where a large number of records weren't syncing >> to the device >> >> It is very important to follow the instructions listed below prior >> to running your first sync with this beta: >> >> Important Note: If you are upgrading from 2.0.0 b4 or b5, please >> Unregister the sync services client before syncing. In order to do >> this launch Missing Sync for hiptop 2.0.0 b6, hold down the option >> key and select "Debug Options" from the Missing Sync for hiptop >> menu and click on the Unregister Client button. This will allow >> Missing Sync for hiptop to start fresh and perform a slow sync. >> >> Please report any issues you are having with the form located >> here: >> and let us know on this list if you're having success. >> >> Thanks! >> >> >> -- >> Scott Gruby >> Lead Engineer >> Mark/Space, Inc. >> >> >> Please visit for assistance >> with Mark/Space products. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk >> >> To unsubscribe, send an email from your subscribed email address to: >> missing-sync-hiptop-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list > missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk > > To unsubscribe, send an email from your subscribed email address to: > missing-sync-hiptop-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com > From zeb.shared at gmail.com Mon Jul 11 16:17:02 2005 From: zeb.shared at gmail.com (Zeb Dropkin) Date: Mon Jul 11 16:17:53 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Missing Sync for hiptop Beta 2.0.0 b6 In-Reply-To: <1E2D25EE-5870-4D51-B767-D21D6ED0EC18@mac.com> References: <1E2D25EE-5870-4D51-B767-D21D6ED0EC18@mac.com> Message-ID: <1121123832.3826DC78@bf11.dngr.org> I had my 1st successful full sync! Thanks markspace team! I do have some missing details from contacts, but I think those may have been lost going from earlier sync betas to the apple address book. Does it matter what my customized labels (like a phone label called "landline") are on the sk? Will only certain labels sync (like default ones only -- and if so, what were the default labels)? Thanks, Zeb On Mon, 11 Jul 2005 6:52 pm, Curt Broskey wrote: > I have two words.. Hell yeah! Seems to of sync'd my calendar once and > contacts with-out issue...BUT.. I only got one successful sync from > the calendars. The program never crashed or anything. It just didn't > sync a second time. I am trying a few things....I am trying to sync 4 > calendars in iCal...stay tuned! > > > any one else experience this? > > - Curt > > On Jul 11, 2005, at 5:23 PM, Scott Gruby wrote: > >> Missing Sync for hiptop Beta 2.0.0 b6 is now available from > www.markspace.com/testing>. This release should clear up a number of >> issues that have been reported. >> >> From the release notes: >> - Added debug option to force desktop to overwrite device >> - Addressed issues where a large number of records weren't syncing to >> the device >> >> It is very important to follow the instructions listed below prior to >> running your first sync with this beta: >> >> Important Note: If you are upgrading from 2.0.0 b4 or b5, please >> Unregister the sync services client before syncing. In order to do >> this launch Missing Sync for hiptop 2.0.0 b6, hold down the option >> key and select "Debug Options" from the Missing Sync for hiptop menu >> and click on the Unregister Client button. This will allow Missing >> Sync for hiptop to start fresh and perform a slow sync. >> >> Please report any issues you are having with the form located here: >> and let >> us know on this list if you're having success. >> >> Thanks! >> >> >> -- >> Scott Gruby >> Lead Engineer >> Mark/Space, Inc. >> >> >> Please visit for assistance with >> Mark/Space products. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk >> >> To unsubscribe, send an email from your subscribed email address to: >> missing-sync-hiptop-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list > missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk > > To unsubscribe, send an email from your subscribed email address to: > missing-sync-hiptop-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com --zeb From itpbrian at earthlink.net Mon Jul 11 16:55:12 2005 From: itpbrian at earthlink.net (Brian Burns) Date: Mon Jul 11 16:55:15 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Message-ID: Good news. Bad news. Good news is my Address book syncs great. Unfortunately I still can't get my calendars synced. B From insaniac80 at hotmail.com Mon Jul 11 17:04:42 2005 From: insaniac80 at hotmail.com (Tim Schultz) Date: Mon Jul 11 17:04:44 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Beta 6 works... AWESOME!!! Message-ID: Well i have done my first successful sync with the software under 10.4 and I am soooooo happy. But I was thinking about the last post.. there is no way to setup automatic syncing throughout the day? From sgruby at markspace.com Mon Jul 11 17:23:10 2005 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Mon Jul 11 17:23:15 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Beta 6 works... AWESOME!!! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6970F14F-6FC9-4661-8C57-93E7C3733124@markspace.com> On Jul 11, 2005, at 5:04 PM, Tim Schultz wrote: > Well i have done my first successful sync with the software under > 10.4 and I am soooooo happy. But I was thinking about the last > post.. there is no way to setup automatic syncing throughout the day? > We have added this as a feature request, but don't have any estimate on if/when we will implement it. However, since the application is scriptable, you can use the instructions I posted on June 29th: 1. Download CronniX from: 2. Copy CronniX to your hard drive 3. Launch CronniX 4. Click New 5. Click Simple tab 6. Configure the time you want to sync 7. For Command, enter: /usr/bin/osascript -e 'tell application "Missing Sync for hiptop"' -e synchronize -e quit -e 'end tell' 8. Click New 9. Click Save Repeat this for each time you want to synchronize during the day. (People familiar with cron can just specify everything at once.) Missing Sync for hiptop does not have to be running for this to work. -- Scott Gruby Lead Engineer Mark/Space, Inc. Please visit for assistance with Mark/Space products. From babolaypo65 at hotmail.com Mon Jul 11 17:30:05 2005 From: babolaypo65 at hotmail.com (Babo laypo) Date: Mon Jul 11 17:30:08 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] alas, build 6 still doesn't work for me. Message-ID: I even uninstalled and started over. Neither the calendar, nor address book will sync for me anymore. _________________________________________________________________ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement From brian_hall at markspace.com Mon Jul 11 17:32:17 2005 From: brian_hall at markspace.com (Brian Hall) Date: Mon Jul 11 17:33:38 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Re: server side sync limits In-Reply-To: References: <1E2D25EE-5870-4D51-B767-D21D6ED0EC18@mac.com> Message-ID: At 6:59 PM -0400 7/11/05, Curt Broskey wrote: >Well an update to my sync... looks like I can't sync anymore today.. >I forgot there is a limit on the times you can sync. Anyone know how >many that is? It really sucks for testing and beta testing. For details on the server side limits, see Brian -- _____________________________________________________________________ Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 654 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 Los Gatos, CA 95030-4360 From crussell at markspace.com Mon Jul 11 17:48:18 2005 From: crussell at markspace.com (Catherine Russell) Date: Mon Jul 11 17:48:25 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] alas, build 6 still doesn't work for me. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: In order for us to learn from your situation and resolve the problem, please submit a support request detailing your system setup and providing logs from failed syncs by going to: http://www.markspace.com/support/emailsupport.html To get the log, on Mac OS 10.3.9: 1. Open iSync and select the hiptop device. 2. Hit "command + option + shift + d" and check the turn on logging box 3. In the URL box, enter: http://pimapi.prod1.dngr.net/pimapi 4. Click OK and close the window 5. Launch a sync operation dupicating what you describe below 6. If you see the same problems with the sync, send us the log. 7. The log is located in ~/Library/Logs On Mac OS 10.4.1: 1. Launch the Missing Sync standalone application, 2. While holding down the option key, 3. Open the Missing Sync menu, 4. Choose the Debug Options to open the Debug dialog. 5. Check the box to Enable debug logging. Click OK. 6. Launch a sync. If it fails, find the log in ~/Library/Logs and send it to us. On Jul 11, 2005, at 5:30 PM, Babo laypo wrote: > I even uninstalled and started over. Neither the calendar, nor > address book will sync for me anymore. > > _________________________________________________________________ > On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on > how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx? > cid=Retirement > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list > missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk > > To unsubscribe, send an email from your subscribed email address to: > missing-sync-hiptop-talk-leave@lists.markspace.com > From babolaypo65 at hotmail.com Mon Jul 11 18:30:57 2005 From: babolaypo65 at hotmail.com (Babo laypo) Date: Mon Jul 11 18:31:00 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hipt