From arlo at pixoria.com Tue Oct 5 16:54:54 2004 From: arlo at pixoria.com (Arlo Rose) Date: Tue Oct 5 15:54:57 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Definitive word on release of Missing Sync for hiptop? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <926B39C5-1721-11D9-95FB-000A9580DC82@pixoria.com> On Sep 27, 2004, at 5:14 PM, Ken Freeman wrote: > Mark/Space is as anxious to ship the Missing Sync for hiptop as you > are to > get it! We finished the software in January of 2004 and have been > waiting > for carrier and Danger approval. There are two parts to this approval: Any closer? Someone at some point said that if you had the full version of Intellisync installed on your PC, you'd get Palm support too. I was thinking maybe I could sync my HipTop on the PC with Intellisync, then sync my Palm with that, then re-sync the Palm with my Mac. :-) A pain in the arse, but I desperately need to sync my HipTop's calendar. :-/ Cheers, Arlo Rose -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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We finished the software in January of 2004 and have been >> waiting >> for carrier and Danger approval. There are two parts to this approval: > > Any closer? We are still waiting to hear back from Danger the results of a Danger meeting with T-Mobile back on September 24, 2004. Ken > > Someone at some point said that if you had the full version of > Intellisync installed on your PC, you'd get Palm support too. I was > thinking maybe I could sync my HipTop on the PC with Intellisync, then > sync my Palm with that, then re-sync the Palm with my Mac. :-) > > A pain in the arse, but I desperately need to sync my HipTop's > calendar. :-/ > > > Cheers, > Arlo Rose > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list > missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk From Able707 at aol.com Wed Oct 6 03:47:59 2004 From: Able707 at aol.com (Able707@aol.com) Date: Tue Oct 5 23:48:26 2004 Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:=20[missing-sync-hiptop-talk]=A0=20Definitive=20?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?word=20on=20release=20of=20Missing=20Sync=20for=20hiptop=3F?= Message-ID: <9f.4f3a62fc.2e94ef1f@aol.com> I don't mean to sound stupid but I signed up for this in hopes to get something to work on my Mac to sync up to my side kick 2 does anyone have a way to do that. Azikiwee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.markspace.com/pipermail/missing-sync-hiptop-talk/attachments/20041006/0e071833/attachment.htm From mkb_cbr at mac.com Wed Oct 6 09:59:30 2004 From: mkb_cbr at mac.com (Mike Brodhead) Date: Wed Oct 6 08:59:41 2004 Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_[missing-sync-hiptop-talk]=A0_Definitive_word_o?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?n_release_of_Missing_Sync_for_hiptop=3F?= In-Reply-To: <9f.4f3a62fc.2e94ef1f@aol.com> References: <9f.4f3a62fc.2e94ef1f@aol.com> Message-ID: <1097078373.32038098@j29.dngr.org> On Wed, 6 Oct 2004 12:00am, Able707@aol.com wrote: > I don't mean to sound stupid but I signed up for this in hopes to get > something to work on my Mac to sync up to my side kick 2 does anyone > have a way to do > that. Oi, this list really needs a FAQ. The short version is that Mark/Space developed a prodict that will do what you want, but they can't release it without TMobile's blessing. For a while it was looking like that would not happen, but now it might. We are all waiting to hear more. --mkb From farach at gmail.com Fri Oct 8 12:15:24 2004 From: farach at gmail.com (Martin Farach-Colton) Date: Fri Oct 8 08:16:03 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Missing Page Message-ID: <107d294004100808154aa71601@mail.gmail.com> The Missing Sync Hiptop page is gone. Does anyone know what's up? Thanks, Martin Farach-Colton From kfreeman at markspace.com Fri Oct 8 09:58:57 2004 From: kfreeman at markspace.com (Ken Freeman) Date: Fri Oct 8 08:59:00 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Missing Page In-Reply-To: <107d294004100808154aa71601@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: The page is available again at . It was temporarily removed by accident as we are preparing to update the page in anticipation of getting the T-Mobile approval to ship. Unfortunately, that process is still moving very slowly. :-( Stay tuned! Ken On 10/8/04 8:15 AM, "Martin Farach-Colton" wrote: > The Missing Sync Hiptop page is gone. Does anyone know what's up? > > Thanks, > Martin Farach-Colton > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list > missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk From tilman at virtualtourist.com Fri Oct 8 10:22:19 2004 From: tilman at virtualtourist.com (Tilman Reissfelder) Date: Fri Oct 8 09:22:24 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] contacts cvf -> entourage Message-ID: <39F38646-1946-11D9-AA15-000A959726A6@virtualtourist.com> Hi everyone, got fed up with this last night and coded a little Perl script to at least convert Address Book data to Entourage's data format before missing sync release. If there's interest, please let me know - I'll post it somewhere (and please excuse, if I'm the 20th person to post some tool like this, just started reading here). Ciao, Tilman -- Tilman Reissfelder 1600 Rosecrans Ave. 6B #210 Manhattan Beach, CA 90266 Founder & CTO Ph: 310.727.2602 VirtualTourist.com, Inc. Fx: 310.727.2603 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 576 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.markspace.com/pipermail/missing-sync-hiptop-talk/attachments/20041008/b86c2390/attachment.bin From mavericknyc at mac.com Fri Oct 8 13:24:09 2004 From: mavericknyc at mac.com (Matthew Knobel) Date: Fri Oct 8 09:24:11 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] contacts cvf -> entourage In-Reply-To: <39F38646-1946-11D9-AA15-000A959726A6@virtualtourist.com> References: <39F38646-1946-11D9-AA15-000A959726A6@virtualtourist.com> Message-ID: <7B50317B-1946-11D9-BAEA-00039312082A@mac.com> Sure. I would be into checking it out. On Oct 8, 2004, at 12:22 PM, Tilman Reissfelder wrote: > Hi everyone, > > got fed up with this last night and coded a little Perl script to at > least convert Address Book data to Entourage's data format before > missing sync release. > > If there's interest, please let me know - I'll post it somewhere (and > please excuse, if I'm the 20th person to post some tool like this, > just started reading here). > > > Ciao, Tilman > > > > -- > Tilman Reissfelder 1600 Rosecrans Ave. 6B #210 > Manhattan Beach, CA 90266 > Founder & CTO Ph: 310.727.2602 > VirtualTourist.com, Inc. Fx: 310.727.2603 > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list > missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk From johnmooredesign at mac.com Fri Oct 8 13:29:31 2004 From: johnmooredesign at mac.com (John Moore) Date: Fri Oct 8 09:29:36 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] contacts cvf -> entourage In-Reply-To: <39F38646-1946-11D9-AA15-000A959726A6@virtualtourist.com> References: <39F38646-1946-11D9-AA15-000A959726A6@virtualtourist.com> Message-ID: <3BA15220-1947-11D9-A463-000A95B97784@mac.com> sounds good. let me know where the link is. thanks! On Oct 8, 2004, at 12:22 PM, Tilman Reissfelder wrote: > Hi everyone, > > got fed up with this last night and coded a little Perl script to at > least convert Address Book data to Entourage's data format before > missing sync release. > > If there's interest, please let me know - I'll post it somewhere (and > please excuse, if I'm the 20th person to post some tool like this, > just started reading here). > > > Ciao, Tilman > > > > -- > Tilman Reissfelder 1600 Rosecrans Ave. 6B #210 > Manhattan Beach, CA 90266 > Founder & CTO Ph: 310.727.2602 > VirtualTourist.com, Inc. Fx: 310.727.2603 > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list > missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk From tilman at virtualtourist.com Fri Oct 8 10:50:17 2004 From: tilman at virtualtourist.com (Tilman Reissfelder) Date: Fri Oct 8 09:50:25 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] contacts cvf -> entourage In-Reply-To: <7B50317B-1946-11D9-BAEA-00039312082A@mac.com> References: <39F38646-1946-11D9-AA15-000A959726A6@virtualtourist.com> <7B50317B-1946-11D9-BAEA-00039312082A@mac.com> Message-ID: <221EEA0C-194A-11D9-AA15-000A959726A6@virtualtourist.com> Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The instructions are in > the script, but here again how to use it: > > - open Address Book > - highlight all contacts you want to sync > - right click and select "Export vCard..." & save to file (the app > suggests vCards.vcf) > - go to the folder where you have all that stuff and run: > ./vcf2entourage.pl < vCards.vcf > contacts.txt > - upload the resulting contacts.txt to the web interface > - done. > > I this version, it only syncs name, company, phones/faxes, emails. I > will add addresses and home pages (probably birth dates) when I have > some time. > > I tested it myself briefly yesterday, but can't of course not > guarantee that it's error free. =) > > > Happy uploading, Tilman > > > > > > On Oct 8, 2004, at 09:24, Matthew Knobel wrote: > >> Sure. I would be into checking it out. >> >> >> >> >> On Oct 8, 2004, at 12:22 PM, Tilman Reissfelder wrote: >> >>> Hi everyone, >>> >>> got fed up with this last night and coded a little Perl script to at >>> least convert Address Book data to Entourage's data format before >>> missing sync release. >>> >>> If there's interest, please let me know - I'll post it somewhere >>> (and please excuse, if I'm the 20th person to post some tool like >>> this, just started reading here). >>> >>> >>> Ciao, Tilman >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Tilman Reissfelder 1600 Rosecrans Ave. 6B #210 >>> Manhattan Beach, CA 90266 >>> Founder & CTO Ph: 310.727.2602 >>> VirtualTourist.com, Inc. Fx: 310.727.2603 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list >>> missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com >>> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk >> >> > > -- > Tilman Reissfelder 1600 Rosecrans Ave. 6B #210 > Manhattan Beach, CA 90266 > Founder & CTO Ph: 310.727.2602 > VirtualTourist.com, Inc. Fx: 310.727.2603 > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list > missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk From tilman at virtualtourist.com Fri Oct 8 11:00:06 2004 From: tilman at virtualtourist.com (Tilman Reissfelder) Date: Fri Oct 8 10:00:12 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] another one... Message-ID: <81719848-194B-11D9-AA15-000A959726A6@virtualtourist.com> Sorry to post again, but I have to make this clear: the script only looks at name, company, phones and emails. If you have the upload tool merge that with what's on your device, I'd guess it will delete all other values for the matched contacts (i.e. it will delete addresses that you put into the device for that contact by hand). Ciao everybody. Have a good weekend. - Tilman -- Tilman Reissfelder 1600 Rosecrans Ave. 6B #210 Manhattan Beach, CA 90266 Founder & CTO Ph: 310.727.2602 VirtualTourist.com, Inc. Fx: 310.727.2603 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 605 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.markspace.com/pipermail/missing-sync-hiptop-talk/attachments/20041008/dcd744f2/attachment-0001.bin From johnmooredesign at mac.com Fri Oct 8 14:26:48 2004 From: johnmooredesign at mac.com (John Moore) Date: Fri Oct 8 10:26:53 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] another one... In-Reply-To: <81719848-194B-11D9-AA15-000A959726A6@virtualtourist.com> References: <81719848-194B-11D9-AA15-000A959726A6@virtualtourist.com> Message-ID: <3C00B88E-194F-11D9-8BD4-000A95B97784@mac.com> nicely done!!! worked perfectly. thanks On Oct 8, 2004, at 1:00 PM, Tilman Reissfelder wrote: > Sorry to post again, but I have to make this clear: > > the script only looks at name, company, phones and emails. If you have > the upload tool merge that with what's on your device, I'd guess it > will delete all other values for the matched contacts (i.e. it will > delete addresses that you put into the device for that contact by > hand). > > Ciao everybody. Have a good weekend. > > > - Tilman > > > -- > Tilman Reissfelder 1600 Rosecrans Ave. 6B #210 > Manhattan Beach, CA 90266 > Founder & CTO Ph: 310.727.2602 > VirtualTourist.com, Inc. Fx: 310.727.2603 > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list > missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk From tilman at virtualtourist.com Fri Oct 8 11:27:13 2004 From: tilman at virtualtourist.com (Tilman Reissfelder) Date: Fri Oct 8 10:27:16 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] and another thing... Message-ID: <4B1BA838-194F-11D9-AA15-000A959726A6@virtualtourist.com> Ok, I know this gets annoying, but bear with me. In order for the script to work properly, you'll have to change Address Books preferences for vCards: vCard Format: V2.1 (UTF-8) Thanks, I'll be here all week. - Tilman -- Tilman Reissfelder 1600 Rosecrans Ave. 6B #210 Manhattan Beach, CA 90266 Founder & CTO Ph: 310.727.2602 VirtualTourist.com, Inc. Fx: 310.727.2603 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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If you have >the upload tool merge that with what's on your device, I'd guess it >will delete all other values for the matched contacts (i.e. it will >delete addresses that you put into the device for that contact by >hand). > >Ciao everybody. Have a good weekend. Actually there is an existing freeware program that does more fields, which I found when I was looking for something to convert my Address Book. Address Book Exporter 2.1.2 http://gwenhiver.net/applications/addressbookexporter/index.php -Jay http://indyjt.com From arlo at pixoria.com Mon Oct 25 14:55:23 2004 From: arlo at pixoria.com (Arlo Rose) Date: Mon Oct 25 13:55:39 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] What's the latest, folk? Message-ID: <3092128F-26C8-11D9-AFA1-000A95C3782A@pixoria.com> This is getting into crazy territory. :-) I don't feel guilty about constantly prodding as I get dozens of emails a day asking when the Windows version of my product will be out... I'm just spreading the karma around. :-/ Arlo -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 2486 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.markspace.com/pipermail/missing-sync-hiptop-talk/attachments/20041025/faafb1fa/smime.bin From brian_hall at markspace.com Tue Oct 26 11:48:58 2004 From: brian_hall at markspace.com (Brian Hall) Date: Tue Oct 26 10:48:50 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] What's the latest, folk? In-Reply-To: <3092128F-26C8-11D9-AFA1-000A95C3782A@pixoria.com> References: <3092128F-26C8-11D9-AFA1-000A95C3782A@pixoria.com> Message-ID: >This is getting into crazy territory. :-) > >I don't feel guilty about constantly prodding as I get dozens of emails >a day asking when the Windows version of my product will be out... I'm >just spreading the karma around. :-/ Unfortunately we have not been able to reach an agreement with Danger, and at this point are not expecting to. Brian -- _____________________________________________________________________ Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 654 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 Los Gatos, CA 95030-4360 From maisha.thomas at gmail.com Tue Oct 26 15:46:26 2004 From: maisha.thomas at gmail.com (M Thomas) Date: Tue Oct 26 11:46:35 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] What's the latest, folk? In-Reply-To: References: <3092128F-26C8-11D9-AFA1-000A95C3782A@pixoria.com> Message-ID: <9b0c5cc04102611464806da61@mail.gmail.com> So it is Danger and not T-Mobile that's holding everything up? As a Sidekick user since before the release of the Sidekick 2, I'm surprised, since T-Mobile has locked-out a lot of features (built-in by Danger) from Sidekick users that other Hiptop carriers have allowed their subscribers to use. Hearing that Danger is the holdout is actually a shock to me, since I really expected to hear that T-Mobile was holding back on us again. this is getting confusing. *sigh* On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:48:58 -0700, Brian Hall wrote: > >This is getting into crazy territory. :-) > > > >I don't feel guilty about constantly prodding as I get dozens of emails > >a day asking when the Windows version of my product will be out... I'm > >just spreading the karma around. :-/ > > Unfortunately we have not been able to reach an agreement with Danger, and > at this point are not expecting to. > > Brian > > -- > _____________________________________________________________________ > Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 > 654 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 > Los Gatos, CA 95030-4360 > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list > missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk > -- The truth is out there? Does anyone know the URL? From arlo at pixoria.com Tue Oct 26 12:50:12 2004 From: arlo at pixoria.com (Arlo Rose) Date: Tue Oct 26 11:50:16 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] What's the latest, folk? In-Reply-To: References: <3092128F-26C8-11D9-AFA1-000A95C3782A@pixoria.com> Message-ID: On Oct 26, 2004, at 10:48 AM, Brian Hall wrote: > Unfortunately we have not been able to reach an agreement with Danger, > and > at this point are not expecting to. Wow, that's just nuts! If you guys get bored and want to post the API's for talking to the sync server, feel free to as I'd be more than happy to cobble my own solution together. :-/ Perhaps it's time to grab Intellisync and do some packet sniffing. :-( Arlo -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 2486 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.markspace.com/pipermail/missing-sync-hiptop-talk/attachments/20041026/1b0615a0/smime.bin From gss+hipsync at cs.brown.edu Tue Oct 26 16:02:19 2004 From: gss+hipsync at cs.brown.edu (Gregory Seidman) Date: Tue Oct 26 12:02:26 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] What's the latest, folk? In-Reply-To: References: <3092128F-26C8-11D9-AFA1-000A95C3782A@pixoria.com> Message-ID: <20041026190219.GA4088@cs.brown.edu> On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 10:48:58AM -0700, Brian Hall wrote: } >This is getting into crazy territory. :-) } > } >I don't feel guilty about constantly prodding as I get dozens of emails } >a day asking when the Windows version of my product will be out... I'm } >just spreading the karma around. :-/ } } Unfortunately we have not been able to reach an agreement with Danger, and } at this point are not expecting to. The problem is with Danger now, not T-Mobile? Am I correct in believing the specifics are under some sort of confidentiality, or would you be able to exapnd on that? } Brian --Greg From jon at schalliol.com Tue Oct 26 15:14:22 2004 From: jon at schalliol.com (Jonathan Schalliol) Date: Tue Oct 26 12:14:29 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Re: missing-sync-hiptop-talk Digest, Vol 10, Issue 4 In-Reply-To: <200410261903.i9QJ3fSF025336@penguin.markspace.com> References: <200410261903.i9QJ3fSF025336@penguin.markspace.com> Message-ID: That is indeed crazy. I know that at least one Danger guy was on this list who wanted the product to come out, that was a few months ago, perhaps there was a decision higher than he could make. From shedevil at aloss.net Tue Oct 26 13:09:23 2004 From: shedevil at aloss.net (Anne P. Mitchell, Esq.) Date: Tue Oct 26 12:15:53 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] What's the latest, folk? In-Reply-To: <9b0c5cc04102611464806da61@mail.gmail.com> References: <3092128F-26C8-11D9-AFA1-000A95C3782A@pixoria.com> <9b0c5cc04102611464806da61@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8C3AEBFE-2782-11D9-9BC7-000A95AC5778@aloss.net> > since T-Mobile has locked-out a lot of features (built-in > by Danger) from Sidekick users that other Hiptop carriers have allowed > their subscribers to use. Really? What sorts of features?? Anne From maisha.thomas at gmail.com Tue Oct 26 16:19:06 2004 From: maisha.thomas at gmail.com (M Thomas) Date: Tue Oct 26 12:19:08 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] What's the latest, folk? In-Reply-To: <8C3AEBFE-2782-11D9-9BC7-000A95AC5778@aloss.net> References: <3092128F-26C8-11D9-AFA1-000A95C3782A@pixoria.com> <9b0c5cc04102611464806da61@mail.gmail.com> <8C3AEBFE-2782-11D9-9BC7-000A95AC5778@aloss.net> Message-ID: <9b0c5cc041026121956b355f8@mail.gmail.com> for one, allowing users to save attachments as ringtones. I know it's trivial compared to this, but it matters to some. if you go into the hiptop.com forums, you can find out a lot of things that are built into the hiptop that are not offered as the T-Mobile Sidekick. On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 12:09:23 -0700, Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. wrote: > > > since T-Mobile has locked-out a lot of features (built-in > > by Danger) from Sidekick users that other Hiptop carriers have allowed > > their subscribers to use. > > Really? What sorts of features?? > > Anne > > _______________________________________________ > > > missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list > missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk > -- The truth is out there? Does anyone know the URL? From dand at pcisys.net Tue Oct 26 17:41:27 2004 From: dand at pcisys.net (Dan Duncan) Date: Tue Oct 26 15:41:30 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] What's the latest, folk? In-Reply-To: References: <3092128F-26C8-11D9-AFA1-000A95C3782A@pixoria.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 26 Oct 2004, Brian Hall wrote: > Unfortunately we have not been able to reach an agreement with Danger, and > at this point are not expecting to. Surprise, surprise. Danger has been failing to deliver on promises since I bought my black and white sidekick when it was introduced. In addition to sync, it would sure be nice if those built-in IR and USB ports worked. (USB used to work for recovery) -DanD -- # Dan Duncan (kd4igw) dand@pcisys.net http://pcisys.net/~dand # I read somewhere that 77 per cent of all the mentally ill live in poverty. # Actually, I'm more intrigued by the 23 per cent who are apparently doing # quite well for themselves. -- Emo Philips From stevenf at panic.com Tue Oct 26 16:47:30 2004 From: stevenf at panic.com (Steven Frank) Date: Tue Oct 26 15:47:31 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] What's the latest, folk? In-Reply-To: References: <3092128F-26C8-11D9-AFA1-000A95C3782A@pixoria.com> Message-ID: <047839F5-27A1-11D9-9F38-000D936BB994@panic.com> > In addition to sync, it would sure be nice if those built-in IR and USB > ports worked. (USB used to work for recovery) Danger addressed that problem by removing the IR port on the Sidekick 2. :) Steven http://stevenf.com/ From dand at pcisys.net Tue Oct 26 18:04:13 2004 From: dand at pcisys.net (Dan Duncan) Date: Tue Oct 26 16:04:16 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] What's the latest, folk? In-Reply-To: <047839F5-27A1-11D9-9F38-000D936BB994@panic.com> References: <3092128F-26C8-11D9-AFA1-000A95C3782A@pixoria.com> <047839F5-27A1-11D9-9F38-000D936BB994@panic.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 26 Oct 2004, Steven Frank wrote: > > In addition to sync, it would sure be nice if those built-in IR and USB > > ports worked. (USB used to work for recovery) > > Danger addressed that problem by removing the IR port on the Sidekick > 2. :) Probably easier than fixing it, and certainly prevents a lot of uncomfortable questions about future upgrades. After all, why would anyone want an infrared port on their pda/phone? You can always just type in someone else's contact info when you meet, right? *grumble* You're falling behind, Danger. You had a device with great potential and you blew it. Even my wife, who got a B&W after me and then went on to a color sidekick, has given up on you and your empty promises. The Sk2 is too little, too late, and started off obsolete. At least the original B&W model was impressive. -DanD -- # Dan Duncan (kd4igw) dand@pcisys.net http://pcisys.net/~dand # I either want less corruption, or more chance to participate in it. # ASHLEIGH BRILLIANT From wilcox at unm.edu Tue Oct 26 18:35:38 2004 From: wilcox at unm.edu (Sherman Wilcox) Date: Tue Oct 26 16:35:46 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] What's the latest, folk? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 10/26/04 5:04 PM, "Dan Duncan" wrote: > You're falling behind, Danger. You had a device with great potential > and you blew it. Even my wife, who got a B&W after me and then went on to > a color sidekick, has given up on you and your empty promises. The Sk2 > is too little, too late, and started off obsolete. At least the original > B&W model was impressive. Sadly, I gave up waiting for Danger. I tried out the new Blackberry 7100t and went for it. It's light, pushes email, has a reasonable browser, and with the addition of third-party software lets me sync my Entourage contacts and appointments (or iCal/AB or Now Up to Date and Contact). The display is gorgeous. In case you're wondering about the keyboard, it's SCARY good. Sure-type predictive typing just works. 95% of the time I just type what I want to and it comes out right. If it makes a mistake, it only does it once -- it learns from my corrections. It also reads in my address book so it gets names right most of the time too. It's only available through T-Mobile, but with rebate I got it for $199. They have a Blackberry plan with unlimited web, email, IM, SMS, and 1000 anytime minutes for $59.95. International roaming, too. It comes with Bluetooth (crippled so it can't be used for sync, a real shame) that works well with a wireless headset. With the third-party software I can also charge it through my PowerBook (the charger is USB, same as the syncing). The third-party software works. But if Mark/Space ever develops a Missing Sync for Blackberry, I'll be one of the first to buy it. I wanted to give you my money for SideKick sync, I'm be happy to pony up for Blackberry ;-) The new Treo 650 looks sweet too, but at $600 a bit pricey for me. And it doesn't do push. Bye, Danger. -- Sherman From brian_hall at markspace.com Tue Oct 26 17:59:59 2004 From: brian_hall at markspace.com (Brian Hall) Date: Tue Oct 26 17:01:11 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] What's the latest, folk? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >The third-party software works. But if Mark/Space ever develops a Missing >Sync for Blackberry, I'll be one of the first to buy it. I wanted to give >you my money for SideKick sync, I'm be happy to pony up for Blackberry ;-) We currently handle Palm OS and Windows Mobile/Pocket PC devices. We'll likely have a blackberry sync solution in 2005. Brian -- _____________________________________________________________________ Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 654 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 Los Gatos, CA 95030-4360 From wilcox at unm.edu Tue Oct 26 19:06:53 2004 From: wilcox at unm.edu (Sherman Wilcox) Date: Tue Oct 26 17:06:56 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] What's the latest, folk? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 10/26/04 5:59 PM, "Brian Hall" wrote: > We'll likely have a blackberry sync solution in 2005. I'll be there. And if you need a beta tester, I'm there too (I've tested for both shareware and commercial apps). -- Sherman From arlo at pixoria.com Tue Oct 26 18:43:19 2004 From: arlo at pixoria.com (Arlo Rose) Date: Tue Oct 26 17:43:28 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] What's the latest, folk? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <32BE5C1B-27B1-11D9-AFA1-000A95C3782A@pixoria.com> On Oct 26, 2004, at 4:59 PM, Brian Hall wrote: > We currently handle Palm OS and Windows Mobile/Pocket PC devices. The Pocket PC support is amazing. I had an iPaq for a short while and was blown away by how good the M/S software was for it. Arlo -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 2486 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.markspace.com/pipermail/missing-sync-hiptop-talk/attachments/20041026/7ca0dfe1/smime-0001.bin From brian_hall at markspace.com Tue Oct 26 18:49:30 2004 From: brian_hall at markspace.com (Brian Hall) Date: Tue Oct 26 17:48:54 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] What's the latest, folk? In-Reply-To: <32BE5C1B-27B1-11D9-AFA1-000A95C3782A@pixoria.com> References: <32BE5C1B-27B1-11D9-AFA1-000A95C3782A@pixoria.com> Message-ID: >> We currently handle Palm OS and Windows Mobile/Pocket PC devices. > >The Pocket PC support is amazing. I had an iPaq for a short while and >was blown away by how good the M/S software was for it. Wait till you see 2.0! That will be the companies next big release. We're adding SmartPhone support, and a boatload of new features (we announced our new plug-in API at the Mac developer conferences this past fall). Brian -- _____________________________________________________________________ Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 654 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 Los Gatos, CA 95030-4360 From arlo at pixoria.com Tue Oct 26 19:30:14 2004 From: arlo at pixoria.com (Arlo Rose) Date: Tue Oct 26 18:30:22 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] What's the latest, folk? In-Reply-To: References: <32BE5C1B-27B1-11D9-AFA1-000A95C3782A@pixoria.com> Message-ID: On Oct 26, 2004, at 5:49 PM, Brian Hall wrote: >>> We currently handle Palm OS and Windows Mobile/Pocket PC devices. >> >> The Pocket PC support is amazing. I had an iPaq for a short while and >> was blown away by how good the M/S software was for it. > > Wait till you see 2.0! That will be the companies next big release. > We're > adding SmartPhone support, and a boatload of new features (we > announced our > new plug-in API at the Mac developer conferences this past fall). Well, sadly I couldn't stand the iPaq, returned it, and opted for the SideKick2 under the assumption that syncing would be cross-platform. :-P Arlo -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 2486 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.markspace.com/pipermail/missing-sync-hiptop-talk/attachments/20041026/c3baa044/smime.bin From dand at pcisys.net Wed Oct 27 00:22:50 2004 From: dand at pcisys.net (Dan Duncan) Date: Tue Oct 26 22:22:53 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] What's the latest, folk? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, 26 Oct 2004, Sherman Wilcox wrote: > Sadly, I gave up waiting for Danger. So did I, but I'm not sad about it. When my 1 year contract on my B&W sidekick ran out, I got a P800 instead of a color sidekick. It did everything out of the box the sidekick said it would eventually do, and far more. Oh, and there are hundreds of apps of which I can install as many as I want because it has removable storage. > I tried out the new Blackberry 7100t and went for it. It's light, pushes > email, has a reasonable browser, and with the addition of third-party > software lets me sync my Entourage contacts and appointments (or iCal/AB or > Now Up to Date and Contact). The display is gorgeous. My wife is considering one of the Blackberry models next, as soon as her color sidekick's year runs out. She's an OS X user and wants more than anything to be able to sync her addresses (she has hundreds of them) and all of her appointments with her laptop and desktop. I'm here in the hopes that will be possible. > In case you're wondering about the keyboard, it's SCARY good. Sure-type > predictive typing just works. 95% of the time I just type what I want to and > it comes out right. If it makes a mistake, it only does it once -- it learns > from my corrections. It also reads in my address book so it gets names right > most of the time too. > > It's only available through T-Mobile, but with rebate I got it for $199. > They have a Blackberry plan with unlimited web, email, IM, SMS, and 1000 > anytime minutes for $59.95. International roaming, too. You don't need to sell me. My wife has already decided on one. I'm still weighing my options. The P910 is out now, as is the Nokia Communicator 9500, which has not only filled the huge gap by adding GPRS but also added Bluetooth and Wifi. > It comes with Bluetooth (crippled so it can't be used for sync, a real > shame) that works well with a wireless headset. I like Bluetooth, and both my phone and my laptop support it, but I find myself using IR more often for the syncing. I also use IR so my pda (Sharp Zaurus) or laptop can use the phone's GPRS connection for internet access at around 53kbps. Sweeeeeet. > With the third-party > software I can also charge it through my PowerBook (the charger is USB, same > as the syncing). I did that with my Sidekick by making a cable. > The third-party software works. But if Mark/Space ever develops a Missing > Sync for Blackberry, I'll be one of the first to buy it. I wanted to give > you my money for SideKick sync, I'm be happy to pony up for Blackberry ;-) My wife will also buy it. If Danger pulls the stick out while my wife still has the sidekick, we'll buy that version too. > The new Treo 650 looks sweet too, but at $600 a bit pricey for me. And it > doesn't do push. The competition is picking up and Danger isn't. > Bye, Danger. Seeya! -DanD -- # Dan Duncan (kd4igw) dand@pcisys.net http://pcisys.net/~dand # "The strong feed on the weak, and the clever feed on the strong." # -Jello Biafra From jon at schalliol.com Thu Oct 28 12:44:58 2004 From: jon at schalliol.com (Jonathan Schalliol) Date: Thu Oct 28 09:45:02 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Re: missing-sync-hiptop-talk Digest, Vol 10, Issue 6 In-Reply-To: <200410272026.i9RKQcSF027547@penguin.markspace.com> References: <200410272026.i9RKQcSF027547@penguin.markspace.com> Message-ID: I hear you, Arlo, this is just silly, M/S developed a product for this and T-Mobile is pumping a sync ability which isn't possible for many of the hiptop users. M/S, if all is lost, who do WE need to call at Danger or T-Mobile to make this happen. Anyone up for a Mac-hiptop user telephone "slashdotting"? From stephen at topsydesigns.com Fri Oct 29 09:40:55 2004 From: stephen at topsydesigns.com (Stephen Topsy) Date: Fri Oct 29 08:41:00 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Re: phoning In-Reply-To: <200410281923.i9SJNkSF022676@penguin.markspace.com> References: <200410281923.i9SJNkSF022676@penguin.markspace.com> Message-ID: <1099064457.11E5B3E@g28.dngr.org> I'm up for this if it is organized and taken seriously. Let's do it. On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 12:49 pm, missing-sync-hiptop-talk-request@lists.markspace.com wrote: > Send missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list submissions to > missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > missing-sync-hiptop-talk-request@lists.markspace.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > missing-sync-hiptop-talk-owner@lists.markspace.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of missing-sync-hiptop-talk digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: missing-sync-hiptop-talk Digest, Vol 10, Issue 6 > (Jonathan Schalliol) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 11:44:58 -0500 > From: Jonathan Schalliol > Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Re: missing-sync-hiptop-talk > Digest, Vol 10, Issue 6 > To: missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" > > I hear you, Arlo, this is just silly, M/S developed a product for > this and T-Mobile is pumping a sync ability which isn't possible for > many of the hiptop users. > > M/S, if all is lost, who do WE need to call at Danger or T-Mobile to > make this happen. Anyone up for a Mac-hiptop user telephone > "slashdotting"? > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list > missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk > > > End of missing-sync-hiptop-talk Digest, Vol 10, Issue 7 > ******************************************************* ?? Stephen Topsy ?? stephen@topsydesigns.com http://www.topsydesigns.com From heydan at post.harvard.edu Fri Oct 29 13:03:41 2004 From: heydan at post.harvard.edu (Dan Winkler) Date: Fri Oct 29 09:03:58 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Danger knows about this problem In-Reply-To: <1099064457.11E5B3E@g28.dngr.org> References: <200410281923.i9SJNkSF022676@penguin.markspace.com> <1099064457.11E5B3E@g28.dngr.org> <1A32D0FA-29C4-11D9-8A26-000A95DA542E@post.harvard.edu> Message-ID: Here's a blog entry from someone who's both a Mac user and a Danger employee: http://www.ceejbot.com/blog/space/start/2004-10-27/ 2#Troubles_with_Mac_sync From mkb_cbr at mac.com Fri Oct 29 10:23:29 2004 From: mkb_cbr at mac.com (Mike Brodhead) Date: Fri Oct 29 09:23:36 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Re: missing-sync-hiptop-talk Digest, Vol 10, Issue 6 In-Reply-To: References: <200410272026.i9RKQcSF027547@penguin.markspace.com> Message-ID: <1099067012.331F5B91@h29.dngr.org> On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 10:31 am, Jonathan Schalliol wrote: > M/S, if all is lost, who do WE need to call at Danger or T-Mobile to > make this happen. Anyone up for a Mac-hiptop user telephone > "slashdotting"? Fond as I am of yelling at people we are a lot more likely to get what we want by being polite. Dozens of people calling up and asking for something will be seen as customers expressing a need. Dozends of people calling up to rant will just be perceived as jerks. Let's keep the focus on getting what we want, not expressing our anger. --mkb From kenn at ditherwerk.com Fri Oct 29 11:44:56 2004 From: kenn at ditherwerk.com (Kenn Michael) Date: Fri Oct 29 10:46:02 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Re: missing-sync-hiptop-talk Digest, Vol 10, Issue 6 In-Reply-To: <1099067012.331F5B91@h29.dngr.org> References: <200410272026.i9RKQcSF027547@penguin.markspace.com> <1099067012.331F5B91@h29.dngr.org> Message-ID: <3F85D7FA-29D2-11D9-9D50-000A95D9A2CC@ditherwerk.com> I've already been emailing back and forth with T-Mobile about this... Sad really. I asked them about OSX syncing and they forwarded me to the MarkSpace product... (That's how I got here) Then come to find out they don't 'know' when or if they're going to support it. Crazy that they would recommend a product that they don't even support!!!!! I'm floored by the fact that the software has been ready since January, and Danger/T-Mobile are dragging their feet! Kenn On Oct 29, 2004, at 9:23 AM, Mike Brodhead wrote: > Fond as I am of yelling at people we are a lot more likely to get what > we want by being polite. Dozens of people calling up and asking for > something will be seen as customers expressing a need. Dozends of > people calling up to rant will just be perceived as jerks. > > Let's keep the focus on getting what we want, not expressing our anger. From jon at schalliol.com Fri Oct 29 15:18:57 2004 From: jon at schalliol.com (Jonathan Schalliol) Date: Fri Oct 29 12:19:04 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Re: missing-sync-hiptop-talk Digest, Vol 10, Issue 8 In-Reply-To: <200410291900.i9TJ0MSF021504@penguin.markspace.com> References: <200410291900.i9TJ0MSF021504@penguin.markspace.com> Message-ID: Right, no yelling, just requesting....and being persistent about them saying it has sync and not offering to others, even when there's a product out there From mkb_cbr at mac.com Fri Oct 29 13:44:34 2004 From: mkb_cbr at mac.com (Mike Brodhead) Date: Fri Oct 29 12:44:41 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Re: missing-sync-hiptop-talk Digest, Vol 10, Issue 6 In-Reply-To: <3F85D7FA-29D2-11D9-9D50-000A95D9A2CC@ditherwerk.com> References: <200410272026.i9RKQcSF027547@penguin.markspace.com> <3F85D7FA-29D2-11D9-9D50-000A95D9A2CC@ditherwerk.com> Message-ID: <1099079079.3AF3379A@h28.dngr.org> On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 11:07 am, Kenn Michael wrote: > I've already been emailing back and forth with T-Mobile about this... Care to share your contact there? > Crazy that they would recommend a product that they don't even > support!!!!! Heh. That's unfortunate but also par for the course with large companies. One hand doesn't know what the other is doing. --mkb From kenn at ditherwerk.com Fri Oct 29 13:54:18 2004 From: kenn at ditherwerk.com (Kenn Michael) Date: Fri Oct 29 12:53:54 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Re: missing-sync-hiptop-talk Digest, Vol 10, Issue 6 In-Reply-To: <1099079079.3AF3379A@h28.dngr.org> References: <200410272026.i9RKQcSF027547@penguin.markspace.com> <3F85D7FA-29D2-11D9-9D50-000A95D9A2CC@ditherwerk.com> <1099079079.3AF3379A@h28.dngr.org> Message-ID: <5179946F-29E4-11D9-9D50-000A95D9A2CC@ditherwerk.com> On Oct 29, 2004, at 12:44 PM, Mike Brodhead wrote: > On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 11:07 am, Kenn Michael wrote: >> I've already been emailing back and forth with T-Mobile about this... > > Care to share your contact there? Sure. There's been three people who have handled my customer support questions via email: Kevin is the one who recommended the software. Nicholas P said he didn't know when or if it would be supported. And Charles had to apologize after I emailed a disapproving sentiment about forwarding me to a product that they won't support. Kenn From arlo at pixoria.com Tue Oct 5 16:54:54 2004 From: arlo at pixoria.com (Arlo Rose) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:33 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Definitive word on release of Missing Sync for hiptop? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <926B39C5-1721-11D9-95FB-000A9580DC82@pixoria.com> On Sep 27, 2004, at 5:14 PM, Ken Freeman wrote: > Mark/Space is as anxious to ship the Missing Sync for hiptop as you > are to > get it! We finished the software in January of 2004 and have been > waiting > for carrier and Danger approval. There are two parts to this approval: Any closer? Someone at some point said that if you had the full version of Intellisync installed on your PC, you'd get Palm support too. I was thinking maybe I could sync my HipTop on the PC with Intellisync, then sync my Palm with that, then re-sync the Palm with my Mac. :-) A pain in the arse, but I desperately need to sync my HipTop's calendar. :-/ Cheers, Arlo Rose -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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We finished the software in January of 2004 and have been >> waiting >> for carrier and Danger approval. There are two parts to this approval: > > Any closer? We are still waiting to hear back from Danger the results of a Danger meeting with T-Mobile back on September 24, 2004. Ken > > Someone at some point said that if you had the full version of > Intellisync installed on your PC, you'd get Palm support too. I was > thinking maybe I could sync my HipTop on the PC with Intellisync, then > sync my Palm with that, then re-sync the Palm with my Mac. :-) > > A pain in the arse, but I desperately need to sync my HipTop's > calendar. :-/ > > > Cheers, > Arlo Rose > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list > missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk From Able707 at aol.com Wed Oct 6 03:47:59 2004 From: Able707 at aol.com (Able707@aol.com) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:33 2005 Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:=20[missing-sync-hiptop-talk]=A0=20Definitive=20?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?word=20on=20release=20of=20Missing=20Sync=20for=20hiptop=3F?= Message-ID: <9f.4f3a62fc.2e94ef1f@aol.com> I don't mean to sound stupid but I signed up for this in hopes to get something to work on my Mac to sync up to my side kick 2 does anyone have a way to do that. Azikiwee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.markspace.com/pipermail/missing-sync-hiptop-talk/attachments/20041006/0e071833/attachment-0002.htm From mkb_cbr at mac.com Wed Oct 6 09:59:30 2004 From: mkb_cbr at mac.com (Mike Brodhead) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:33 2005 Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_[missing-sync-hiptop-talk]=A0_Definitive_word_o?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?n_release_of_Missing_Sync_for_hiptop=3F?= In-Reply-To: <9f.4f3a62fc.2e94ef1f@aol.com> References: <9f.4f3a62fc.2e94ef1f@aol.com> Message-ID: <1097078373.32038098@j29.dngr.org> On Wed, 6 Oct 2004 12:00am, Able707@aol.com wrote: > I don't mean to sound stupid but I signed up for this in hopes to get > something to work on my Mac to sync up to my side kick 2 does anyone > have a way to do > that. Oi, this list really needs a FAQ. The short version is that Mark/Space developed a prodict that will do what you want, but they can't release it without TMobile's blessing. For a while it was looking like that would not happen, but now it might. We are all waiting to hear more. --mkb From farach at gmail.com Fri Oct 8 12:15:24 2004 From: farach at gmail.com (Martin Farach-Colton) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:33 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Missing Page Message-ID: <107d294004100808154aa71601@mail.gmail.com> The Missing Sync Hiptop page is gone. Does anyone know what's up? Thanks, Martin Farach-Colton From kfreeman at markspace.com Fri Oct 8 09:58:57 2004 From: kfreeman at markspace.com (Ken Freeman) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:33 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Missing Page In-Reply-To: <107d294004100808154aa71601@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: The page is available again at . It was temporarily removed by accident as we are preparing to update the page in anticipation of getting the T-Mobile approval to ship. Unfortunately, that process is still moving very slowly. :-( Stay tuned! Ken On 10/8/04 8:15 AM, "Martin Farach-Colton" wrote: > The Missing Sync Hiptop page is gone. Does anyone know what's up? > > Thanks, > Martin Farach-Colton > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list > missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk From tilman at virtualtourist.com Fri Oct 8 10:22:19 2004 From: tilman at virtualtourist.com (Tilman Reissfelder) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:33 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] contacts cvf -> entourage Message-ID: <39F38646-1946-11D9-AA15-000A959726A6@virtualtourist.com> Hi everyone, got fed up with this last night and coded a little Perl script to at least convert Address Book data to Entourage's data format before missing sync release. If there's interest, please let me know - I'll post it somewhere (and please excuse, if I'm the 20th person to post some tool like this, just started reading here). Ciao, Tilman -- Tilman Reissfelder 1600 Rosecrans Ave. 6B #210 Manhattan Beach, CA 90266 Founder & CTO Ph: 310.727.2602 VirtualTourist.com, Inc. Fx: 310.727.2603 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 576 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.markspace.com/pipermail/missing-sync-hiptop-talk/attachments/20041008/b86c2390/attachment-0002.bin From mavericknyc at mac.com Fri Oct 8 13:24:09 2004 From: mavericknyc at mac.com (Matthew Knobel) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:33 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] contacts cvf -> entourage In-Reply-To: <39F38646-1946-11D9-AA15-000A959726A6@virtualtourist.com> References: <39F38646-1946-11D9-AA15-000A959726A6@virtualtourist.com> Message-ID: <7B50317B-1946-11D9-BAEA-00039312082A@mac.com> Sure. I would be into checking it out. On Oct 8, 2004, at 12:22 PM, Tilman Reissfelder wrote: > Hi everyone, > > got fed up with this last night and coded a little Perl script to at > least convert Address Book data to Entourage's data format before > missing sync release. > > If there's interest, please let me know - I'll post it somewhere (and > please excuse, if I'm the 20th person to post some tool like this, > just started reading here). > > > Ciao, Tilman > > > > -- > Tilman Reissfelder 1600 Rosecrans Ave. 6B #210 > Manhattan Beach, CA 90266 > Founder & CTO Ph: 310.727.2602 > VirtualTourist.com, Inc. Fx: 310.727.2603 > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list > missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk From johnmooredesign at mac.com Fri Oct 8 13:29:31 2004 From: johnmooredesign at mac.com (John Moore) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:33 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] contacts cvf -> entourage In-Reply-To: <39F38646-1946-11D9-AA15-000A959726A6@virtualtourist.com> References: <39F38646-1946-11D9-AA15-000A959726A6@virtualtourist.com> Message-ID: <3BA15220-1947-11D9-A463-000A95B97784@mac.com> sounds good. let me know where the link is. thanks! On Oct 8, 2004, at 12:22 PM, Tilman Reissfelder wrote: > Hi everyone, > > got fed up with this last night and coded a little Perl script to at > least convert Address Book data to Entourage's data format before > missing sync release. > > If there's interest, please let me know - I'll post it somewhere (and > please excuse, if I'm the 20th person to post some tool like this, > just started reading here). > > > Ciao, Tilman > > > > -- > Tilman Reissfelder 1600 Rosecrans Ave. 6B #210 > Manhattan Beach, CA 90266 > Founder & CTO Ph: 310.727.2602 > VirtualTourist.com, Inc. Fx: 310.727.2603 > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list > missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk From tilman at virtualtourist.com Fri Oct 8 10:50:17 2004 From: tilman at virtualtourist.com (Tilman Reissfelder) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:33 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] contacts cvf -> entourage In-Reply-To: <7B50317B-1946-11D9-BAEA-00039312082A@mac.com> References: <39F38646-1946-11D9-AA15-000A959726A6@virtualtourist.com> <7B50317B-1946-11D9-BAEA-00039312082A@mac.com> Message-ID: <221EEA0C-194A-11D9-AA15-000A959726A6@virtualtourist.com> Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The instructions are in > the script, but here again how to use it: > > - open Address Book > - highlight all contacts you want to sync > - right click and select "Export vCard..." & save to file (the app > suggests vCards.vcf) > - go to the folder where you have all that stuff and run: > ./vcf2entourage.pl < vCards.vcf > contacts.txt > - upload the resulting contacts.txt to the web interface > - done. > > I this version, it only syncs name, company, phones/faxes, emails. I > will add addresses and home pages (probably birth dates) when I have > some time. > > I tested it myself briefly yesterday, but can't of course not > guarantee that it's error free. =) > > > Happy uploading, Tilman > > > > > > On Oct 8, 2004, at 09:24, Matthew Knobel wrote: > >> Sure. I would be into checking it out. >> >> >> >> >> On Oct 8, 2004, at 12:22 PM, Tilman Reissfelder wrote: >> >>> Hi everyone, >>> >>> got fed up with this last night and coded a little Perl script to at >>> least convert Address Book data to Entourage's data format before >>> missing sync release. >>> >>> If there's interest, please let me know - I'll post it somewhere >>> (and please excuse, if I'm the 20th person to post some tool like >>> this, just started reading here). >>> >>> >>> Ciao, Tilman >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Tilman Reissfelder 1600 Rosecrans Ave. 6B #210 >>> Manhattan Beach, CA 90266 >>> Founder & CTO Ph: 310.727.2602 >>> VirtualTourist.com, Inc. Fx: 310.727.2603 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list >>> missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com >>> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk >> >> _______________________________________________ >> missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list >> missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com >> http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk >> >> > > -- > Tilman Reissfelder 1600 Rosecrans Ave. 6B #210 > Manhattan Beach, CA 90266 > Founder & CTO Ph: 310.727.2602 > VirtualTourist.com, Inc. Fx: 310.727.2603 > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list > missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk From tilman at virtualtourist.com Fri Oct 8 11:00:06 2004 From: tilman at virtualtourist.com (Tilman Reissfelder) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:33 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] another one... Message-ID: <81719848-194B-11D9-AA15-000A959726A6@virtualtourist.com> Sorry to post again, but I have to make this clear: the script only looks at name, company, phones and emails. If you have the upload tool merge that with what's on your device, I'd guess it will delete all other values for the matched contacts (i.e. it will delete addresses that you put into the device for that contact by hand). Ciao everybody. Have a good weekend. - Tilman -- Tilman Reissfelder 1600 Rosecrans Ave. 6B #210 Manhattan Beach, CA 90266 Founder & CTO Ph: 310.727.2602 VirtualTourist.com, Inc. Fx: 310.727.2603 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 605 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.markspace.com/pipermail/missing-sync-hiptop-talk/attachments/20041008/dcd744f2/attachment-0002.bin From johnmooredesign at mac.com Fri Oct 8 14:26:48 2004 From: johnmooredesign at mac.com (John Moore) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:33 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] another one... In-Reply-To: <81719848-194B-11D9-AA15-000A959726A6@virtualtourist.com> References: <81719848-194B-11D9-AA15-000A959726A6@virtualtourist.com> Message-ID: <3C00B88E-194F-11D9-8BD4-000A95B97784@mac.com> nicely done!!! worked perfectly. thanks On Oct 8, 2004, at 1:00 PM, Tilman Reissfelder wrote: > Sorry to post again, but I have to make this clear: > > the script only looks at name, company, phones and emails. If you have > the upload tool merge that with what's on your device, I'd guess it > will delete all other values for the matched contacts (i.e. it will > delete addresses that you put into the device for that contact by > hand). > > Ciao everybody. Have a good weekend. > > > - Tilman > > > -- > Tilman Reissfelder 1600 Rosecrans Ave. 6B #210 > Manhattan Beach, CA 90266 > Founder & CTO Ph: 310.727.2602 > VirtualTourist.com, Inc. Fx: 310.727.2603 > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list > missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk From tilman at virtualtourist.com Fri Oct 8 11:27:13 2004 From: tilman at virtualtourist.com (Tilman Reissfelder) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:33 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] and another thing... Message-ID: <4B1BA838-194F-11D9-AA15-000A959726A6@virtualtourist.com> Ok, I know this gets annoying, but bear with me. In order for the script to work properly, you'll have to change Address Books preferences for vCards: vCard Format: V2.1 (UTF-8) Thanks, I'll be here all week. - Tilman -- Tilman Reissfelder 1600 Rosecrans Ave. 6B #210 Manhattan Beach, CA 90266 Founder & CTO Ph: 310.727.2602 VirtualTourist.com, Inc. Fx: 310.727.2603 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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If you have >the upload tool merge that with what's on your device, I'd guess it >will delete all other values for the matched contacts (i.e. it will >delete addresses that you put into the device for that contact by >hand). > >Ciao everybody. Have a good weekend. Actually there is an existing freeware program that does more fields, which I found when I was looking for something to convert my Address Book. Address Book Exporter 2.1.2 http://gwenhiver.net/applications/addressbookexporter/index.php -Jay http://indyjt.com From arlo at pixoria.com Mon Oct 25 14:55:23 2004 From: arlo at pixoria.com (Arlo Rose) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:33 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] What's the latest, folk? Message-ID: <3092128F-26C8-11D9-AFA1-000A95C3782A@pixoria.com> This is getting into crazy territory. :-) I don't feel guilty about constantly prodding as I get dozens of emails a day asking when the Windows version of my product will be out... I'm just spreading the karma around. :-/ Arlo -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 2486 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.markspace.com/pipermail/missing-sync-hiptop-talk/attachments/20041025/faafb1fa/smime-0002.bin From brian_hall at markspace.com Tue Oct 26 11:48:58 2004 From: brian_hall at markspace.com (Brian Hall) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:33 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] What's the latest, folk? In-Reply-To: <3092128F-26C8-11D9-AFA1-000A95C3782A@pixoria.com> References: <3092128F-26C8-11D9-AFA1-000A95C3782A@pixoria.com> Message-ID: >This is getting into crazy territory. :-) > >I don't feel guilty about constantly prodding as I get dozens of emails >a day asking when the Windows version of my product will be out... I'm >just spreading the karma around. :-/ Unfortunately we have not been able to reach an agreement with Danger, and at this point are not expecting to. Brian -- _____________________________________________________________________ Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 654 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 Los Gatos, CA 95030-4360 From maisha.thomas at gmail.com Tue Oct 26 15:46:26 2004 From: maisha.thomas at gmail.com (M Thomas) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:33 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] What's the latest, folk? In-Reply-To: References: <3092128F-26C8-11D9-AFA1-000A95C3782A@pixoria.com> Message-ID: <9b0c5cc04102611464806da61@mail.gmail.com> So it is Danger and not T-Mobile that's holding everything up? As a Sidekick user since before the release of the Sidekick 2, I'm surprised, since T-Mobile has locked-out a lot of features (built-in by Danger) from Sidekick users that other Hiptop carriers have allowed their subscribers to use. Hearing that Danger is the holdout is actually a shock to me, since I really expected to hear that T-Mobile was holding back on us again. this is getting confusing. *sigh* On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:48:58 -0700, Brian Hall wrote: > >This is getting into crazy territory. :-) > > > >I don't feel guilty about constantly prodding as I get dozens of emails > >a day asking when the Windows version of my product will be out... I'm > >just spreading the karma around. :-/ > > Unfortunately we have not been able to reach an agreement with Danger, and > at this point are not expecting to. > > Brian > > -- > _____________________________________________________________________ > Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 > 654 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 > Los Gatos, CA 95030-4360 > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list > missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk > -- The truth is out there? Does anyone know the URL? From arlo at pixoria.com Tue Oct 26 12:50:12 2004 From: arlo at pixoria.com (Arlo Rose) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:33 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] What's the latest, folk? In-Reply-To: References: <3092128F-26C8-11D9-AFA1-000A95C3782A@pixoria.com> Message-ID: On Oct 26, 2004, at 10:48 AM, Brian Hall wrote: > Unfortunately we have not been able to reach an agreement with Danger, > and > at this point are not expecting to. Wow, that's just nuts! If you guys get bored and want to post the API's for talking to the sync server, feel free to as I'd be more than happy to cobble my own solution together. :-/ Perhaps it's time to grab Intellisync and do some packet sniffing. :-( Arlo -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 2486 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.markspace.com/pipermail/missing-sync-hiptop-talk/attachments/20041026/1b0615a0/smime-0002.bin From gss+hipsync at cs.brown.edu Tue Oct 26 16:02:19 2004 From: gss+hipsync at cs.brown.edu (Gregory Seidman) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:33 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] What's the latest, folk? In-Reply-To: References: <3092128F-26C8-11D9-AFA1-000A95C3782A@pixoria.com> Message-ID: <20041026190219.GA4088@cs.brown.edu> On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 10:48:58AM -0700, Brian Hall wrote: } >This is getting into crazy territory. :-) } > } >I don't feel guilty about constantly prodding as I get dozens of emails } >a day asking when the Windows version of my product will be out... I'm } >just spreading the karma around. :-/ } } Unfortunately we have not been able to reach an agreement with Danger, and } at this point are not expecting to. The problem is with Danger now, not T-Mobile? Am I correct in believing the specifics are under some sort of confidentiality, or would you be able to exapnd on that? } Brian --Greg From jon at schalliol.com Tue Oct 26 15:14:22 2004 From: jon at schalliol.com (Jonathan Schalliol) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:33 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Re: missing-sync-hiptop-talk Digest, Vol 10, Issue 4 In-Reply-To: <200410261903.i9QJ3fSF025336@penguin.markspace.com> References: <200410261903.i9QJ3fSF025336@penguin.markspace.com> Message-ID: That is indeed crazy. I know that at least one Danger guy was on this list who wanted the product to come out, that was a few months ago, perhaps there was a decision higher than he could make. From shedevil at aloss.net Tue Oct 26 13:09:23 2004 From: shedevil at aloss.net (Anne P. Mitchell, Esq.) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:33 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] What's the latest, folk? In-Reply-To: <9b0c5cc04102611464806da61@mail.gmail.com> References: <3092128F-26C8-11D9-AFA1-000A95C3782A@pixoria.com> <9b0c5cc04102611464806da61@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8C3AEBFE-2782-11D9-9BC7-000A95AC5778@aloss.net> > since T-Mobile has locked-out a lot of features (built-in > by Danger) from Sidekick users that other Hiptop carriers have allowed > their subscribers to use. Really? What sorts of features?? Anne From maisha.thomas at gmail.com Tue Oct 26 16:19:06 2004 From: maisha.thomas at gmail.com (M Thomas) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:33 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] What's the latest, folk? In-Reply-To: <8C3AEBFE-2782-11D9-9BC7-000A95AC5778@aloss.net> References: <3092128F-26C8-11D9-AFA1-000A95C3782A@pixoria.com> <9b0c5cc04102611464806da61@mail.gmail.com> <8C3AEBFE-2782-11D9-9BC7-000A95AC5778@aloss.net> Message-ID: <9b0c5cc041026121956b355f8@mail.gmail.com> for one, allowing users to save attachments as ringtones. I know it's trivial compared to this, but it matters to some. if you go into the hiptop.com forums, you can find out a lot of things that are built into the hiptop that are not offered as the T-Mobile Sidekick. On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 12:09:23 -0700, Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. wrote: > > > since T-Mobile has locked-out a lot of features (built-in > > by Danger) from Sidekick users that other Hiptop carriers have allowed > > their subscribers to use. > > Really? What sorts of features?? > > Anne > > _______________________________________________ > > > missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list > missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk > -- The truth is out there? Does anyone know the URL? From dand at pcisys.net Tue Oct 26 17:41:27 2004 From: dand at pcisys.net (Dan Duncan) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:33 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] What's the latest, folk? In-Reply-To: References: <3092128F-26C8-11D9-AFA1-000A95C3782A@pixoria.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 26 Oct 2004, Brian Hall wrote: > Unfortunately we have not been able to reach an agreement with Danger, and > at this point are not expecting to. Surprise, surprise. Danger has been failing to deliver on promises since I bought my black and white sidekick when it was introduced. In addition to sync, it would sure be nice if those built-in IR and USB ports worked. (USB used to work for recovery) -DanD -- # Dan Duncan (kd4igw) dand@pcisys.net http://pcisys.net/~dand # I read somewhere that 77 per cent of all the mentally ill live in poverty. # Actually, I'm more intrigued by the 23 per cent who are apparently doing # quite well for themselves. -- Emo Philips From stevenf at panic.com Tue Oct 26 16:47:30 2004 From: stevenf at panic.com (Steven Frank) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:33 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] What's the latest, folk? In-Reply-To: References: <3092128F-26C8-11D9-AFA1-000A95C3782A@pixoria.com> Message-ID: <047839F5-27A1-11D9-9F38-000D936BB994@panic.com> > In addition to sync, it would sure be nice if those built-in IR and USB > ports worked. (USB used to work for recovery) Danger addressed that problem by removing the IR port on the Sidekick 2. :) Steven http://stevenf.com/ From dand at pcisys.net Tue Oct 26 18:04:13 2004 From: dand at pcisys.net (Dan Duncan) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:33 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] What's the latest, folk? In-Reply-To: <047839F5-27A1-11D9-9F38-000D936BB994@panic.com> References: <3092128F-26C8-11D9-AFA1-000A95C3782A@pixoria.com> <047839F5-27A1-11D9-9F38-000D936BB994@panic.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 26 Oct 2004, Steven Frank wrote: > > In addition to sync, it would sure be nice if those built-in IR and USB > > ports worked. (USB used to work for recovery) > > Danger addressed that problem by removing the IR port on the Sidekick > 2. :) Probably easier than fixing it, and certainly prevents a lot of uncomfortable questions about future upgrades. After all, why would anyone want an infrared port on their pda/phone? You can always just type in someone else's contact info when you meet, right? *grumble* You're falling behind, Danger. You had a device with great potential and you blew it. Even my wife, who got a B&W after me and then went on to a color sidekick, has given up on you and your empty promises. The Sk2 is too little, too late, and started off obsolete. At least the original B&W model was impressive. -DanD -- # Dan Duncan (kd4igw) dand@pcisys.net http://pcisys.net/~dand # I either want less corruption, or more chance to participate in it. # ASHLEIGH BRILLIANT From wilcox at unm.edu Tue Oct 26 18:35:38 2004 From: wilcox at unm.edu (Sherman Wilcox) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:33 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] What's the latest, folk? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 10/26/04 5:04 PM, "Dan Duncan" wrote: > You're falling behind, Danger. You had a device with great potential > and you blew it. Even my wife, who got a B&W after me and then went on to > a color sidekick, has given up on you and your empty promises. The Sk2 > is too little, too late, and started off obsolete. At least the original > B&W model was impressive. Sadly, I gave up waiting for Danger. I tried out the new Blackberry 7100t and went for it. It's light, pushes email, has a reasonable browser, and with the addition of third-party software lets me sync my Entourage contacts and appointments (or iCal/AB or Now Up to Date and Contact). The display is gorgeous. In case you're wondering about the keyboard, it's SCARY good. Sure-type predictive typing just works. 95% of the time I just type what I want to and it comes out right. If it makes a mistake, it only does it once -- it learns from my corrections. It also reads in my address book so it gets names right most of the time too. It's only available through T-Mobile, but with rebate I got it for $199. They have a Blackberry plan with unlimited web, email, IM, SMS, and 1000 anytime minutes for $59.95. International roaming, too. It comes with Bluetooth (crippled so it can't be used for sync, a real shame) that works well with a wireless headset. With the third-party software I can also charge it through my PowerBook (the charger is USB, same as the syncing). The third-party software works. But if Mark/Space ever develops a Missing Sync for Blackberry, I'll be one of the first to buy it. I wanted to give you my money for SideKick sync, I'm be happy to pony up for Blackberry ;-) The new Treo 650 looks sweet too, but at $600 a bit pricey for me. And it doesn't do push. Bye, Danger. -- Sherman From brian_hall at markspace.com Tue Oct 26 17:59:59 2004 From: brian_hall at markspace.com (Brian Hall) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:33 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] What's the latest, folk? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >The third-party software works. But if Mark/Space ever develops a Missing >Sync for Blackberry, I'll be one of the first to buy it. I wanted to give >you my money for SideKick sync, I'm be happy to pony up for Blackberry ;-) We currently handle Palm OS and Windows Mobile/Pocket PC devices. We'll likely have a blackberry sync solution in 2005. Brian -- _____________________________________________________________________ Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 654 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 Los Gatos, CA 95030-4360 From wilcox at unm.edu Tue Oct 26 19:06:53 2004 From: wilcox at unm.edu (Sherman Wilcox) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:33 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] What's the latest, folk? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 10/26/04 5:59 PM, "Brian Hall" wrote: > We'll likely have a blackberry sync solution in 2005. I'll be there. And if you need a beta tester, I'm there too (I've tested for both shareware and commercial apps). -- Sherman From arlo at pixoria.com Tue Oct 26 18:43:19 2004 From: arlo at pixoria.com (Arlo Rose) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:33 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] What's the latest, folk? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <32BE5C1B-27B1-11D9-AFA1-000A95C3782A@pixoria.com> On Oct 26, 2004, at 4:59 PM, Brian Hall wrote: > We currently handle Palm OS and Windows Mobile/Pocket PC devices. The Pocket PC support is amazing. I had an iPaq for a short while and was blown away by how good the M/S software was for it. Arlo -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 2486 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.markspace.com/pipermail/missing-sync-hiptop-talk/attachments/20041026/7ca0dfe1/smime-0002.bin From brian_hall at markspace.com Tue Oct 26 18:49:30 2004 From: brian_hall at markspace.com (Brian Hall) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:33 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] What's the latest, folk? In-Reply-To: <32BE5C1B-27B1-11D9-AFA1-000A95C3782A@pixoria.com> References: <32BE5C1B-27B1-11D9-AFA1-000A95C3782A@pixoria.com> Message-ID: >> We currently handle Palm OS and Windows Mobile/Pocket PC devices. > >The Pocket PC support is amazing. I had an iPaq for a short while and >was blown away by how good the M/S software was for it. Wait till you see 2.0! That will be the companies next big release. We're adding SmartPhone support, and a boatload of new features (we announced our new plug-in API at the Mac developer conferences this past fall). Brian -- _____________________________________________________________________ Mark/Space, Inc. voice 408-293-7299 654 N. Santa Cruz Ave. #300 fax 408-293-7298 Los Gatos, CA 95030-4360 From arlo at pixoria.com Tue Oct 26 19:30:14 2004 From: arlo at pixoria.com (Arlo Rose) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:33 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] What's the latest, folk? In-Reply-To: References: <32BE5C1B-27B1-11D9-AFA1-000A95C3782A@pixoria.com> Message-ID: On Oct 26, 2004, at 5:49 PM, Brian Hall wrote: >>> We currently handle Palm OS and Windows Mobile/Pocket PC devices. >> >> The Pocket PC support is amazing. I had an iPaq for a short while and >> was blown away by how good the M/S software was for it. > > Wait till you see 2.0! That will be the companies next big release. > We're > adding SmartPhone support, and a boatload of new features (we > announced our > new plug-in API at the Mac developer conferences this past fall). Well, sadly I couldn't stand the iPaq, returned it, and opted for the SideKick2 under the assumption that syncing would be cross-platform. :-P Arlo -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 2486 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.markspace.com/pipermail/missing-sync-hiptop-talk/attachments/20041026/c3baa044/smime-0002.bin From dand at pcisys.net Wed Oct 27 00:22:50 2004 From: dand at pcisys.net (Dan Duncan) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:33 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] What's the latest, folk? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, 26 Oct 2004, Sherman Wilcox wrote: > Sadly, I gave up waiting for Danger. So did I, but I'm not sad about it. When my 1 year contract on my B&W sidekick ran out, I got a P800 instead of a color sidekick. It did everything out of the box the sidekick said it would eventually do, and far more. Oh, and there are hundreds of apps of which I can install as many as I want because it has removable storage. > I tried out the new Blackberry 7100t and went for it. It's light, pushes > email, has a reasonable browser, and with the addition of third-party > software lets me sync my Entourage contacts and appointments (or iCal/AB or > Now Up to Date and Contact). The display is gorgeous. My wife is considering one of the Blackberry models next, as soon as her color sidekick's year runs out. She's an OS X user and wants more than anything to be able to sync her addresses (she has hundreds of them) and all of her appointments with her laptop and desktop. I'm here in the hopes that will be possible. > In case you're wondering about the keyboard, it's SCARY good. Sure-type > predictive typing just works. 95% of the time I just type what I want to and > it comes out right. If it makes a mistake, it only does it once -- it learns > from my corrections. It also reads in my address book so it gets names right > most of the time too. > > It's only available through T-Mobile, but with rebate I got it for $199. > They have a Blackberry plan with unlimited web, email, IM, SMS, and 1000 > anytime minutes for $59.95. International roaming, too. You don't need to sell me. My wife has already decided on one. I'm still weighing my options. The P910 is out now, as is the Nokia Communicator 9500, which has not only filled the huge gap by adding GPRS but also added Bluetooth and Wifi. > It comes with Bluetooth (crippled so it can't be used for sync, a real > shame) that works well with a wireless headset. I like Bluetooth, and both my phone and my laptop support it, but I find myself using IR more often for the syncing. I also use IR so my pda (Sharp Zaurus) or laptop can use the phone's GPRS connection for internet access at around 53kbps. Sweeeeeet. > With the third-party > software I can also charge it through my PowerBook (the charger is USB, same > as the syncing). I did that with my Sidekick by making a cable. > The third-party software works. But if Mark/Space ever develops a Missing > Sync for Blackberry, I'll be one of the first to buy it. I wanted to give > you my money for SideKick sync, I'm be happy to pony up for Blackberry ;-) My wife will also buy it. If Danger pulls the stick out while my wife still has the sidekick, we'll buy that version too. > The new Treo 650 looks sweet too, but at $600 a bit pricey for me. And it > doesn't do push. The competition is picking up and Danger isn't. > Bye, Danger. Seeya! -DanD -- # Dan Duncan (kd4igw) dand@pcisys.net http://pcisys.net/~dand # "The strong feed on the weak, and the clever feed on the strong." # -Jello Biafra From jon at schalliol.com Thu Oct 28 12:44:58 2004 From: jon at schalliol.com (Jonathan Schalliol) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:33 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Re: missing-sync-hiptop-talk Digest, Vol 10, Issue 6 In-Reply-To: <200410272026.i9RKQcSF027547@penguin.markspace.com> References: <200410272026.i9RKQcSF027547@penguin.markspace.com> Message-ID: I hear you, Arlo, this is just silly, M/S developed a product for this and T-Mobile is pumping a sync ability which isn't possible for many of the hiptop users. M/S, if all is lost, who do WE need to call at Danger or T-Mobile to make this happen. Anyone up for a Mac-hiptop user telephone "slashdotting"? From stephen at topsydesigns.com Fri Oct 29 09:40:55 2004 From: stephen at topsydesigns.com (Stephen Topsy) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:33 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Re: phoning In-Reply-To: <200410281923.i9SJNkSF022676@penguin.markspace.com> References: <200410281923.i9SJNkSF022676@penguin.markspace.com> Message-ID: <1099064457.11E5B3E@g28.dngr.org> I'm up for this if it is organized and taken seriously. Let's do it. On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 12:49 pm, missing-sync-hiptop-talk-request@lists.markspace.com wrote: > Send missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list submissions to > missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > missing-sync-hiptop-talk-request@lists.markspace.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > missing-sync-hiptop-talk-owner@lists.markspace.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of missing-sync-hiptop-talk digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: missing-sync-hiptop-talk Digest, Vol 10, Issue 6 > (Jonathan Schalliol) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 11:44:58 -0500 > From: Jonathan Schalliol > Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Re: missing-sync-hiptop-talk > Digest, Vol 10, Issue 6 > To: missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" > > I hear you, Arlo, this is just silly, M/S developed a product for > this and T-Mobile is pumping a sync ability which isn't possible for > many of the hiptop users. > > M/S, if all is lost, who do WE need to call at Danger or T-Mobile to > make this happen. Anyone up for a Mac-hiptop user telephone > "slashdotting"? > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list > missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk > > > End of missing-sync-hiptop-talk Digest, Vol 10, Issue 7 > ******************************************************* ?? Stephen Topsy ?? stephen@topsydesigns.com http://www.topsydesigns.com From heydan at post.harvard.edu Fri Oct 29 13:03:41 2004 From: heydan at post.harvard.edu (Dan Winkler) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:33 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Danger knows about this problem In-Reply-To: <1099064457.11E5B3E@g28.dngr.org> References: <200410281923.i9SJNkSF022676@penguin.markspace.com> <1099064457.11E5B3E@g28.dngr.org> <1A32D0FA-29C4-11D9-8A26-000A95DA542E@post.harvard.edu> Message-ID: Here's a blog entry from someone who's both a Mac user and a Danger employee: http://www.ceejbot.com/blog/space/start/2004-10-27/ 2#Troubles_with_Mac_sync From mkb_cbr at mac.com Fri Oct 29 10:23:29 2004 From: mkb_cbr at mac.com (Mike Brodhead) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:33 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Re: missing-sync-hiptop-talk Digest, Vol 10, Issue 6 In-Reply-To: References: <200410272026.i9RKQcSF027547@penguin.markspace.com> Message-ID: <1099067012.331F5B91@h29.dngr.org> On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 10:31 am, Jonathan Schalliol wrote: > M/S, if all is lost, who do WE need to call at Danger or T-Mobile to > make this happen. Anyone up for a Mac-hiptop user telephone > "slashdotting"? Fond as I am of yelling at people we are a lot more likely to get what we want by being polite. Dozens of people calling up and asking for something will be seen as customers expressing a need. Dozends of people calling up to rant will just be perceived as jerks. Let's keep the focus on getting what we want, not expressing our anger. --mkb From kenn at ditherwerk.com Fri Oct 29 11:44:56 2004 From: kenn at ditherwerk.com (Kenn Michael) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:33 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Re: missing-sync-hiptop-talk Digest, Vol 10, Issue 6 In-Reply-To: <1099067012.331F5B91@h29.dngr.org> References: <200410272026.i9RKQcSF027547@penguin.markspace.com> <1099067012.331F5B91@h29.dngr.org> Message-ID: <3F85D7FA-29D2-11D9-9D50-000A95D9A2CC@ditherwerk.com> I've already been emailing back and forth with T-Mobile about this... Sad really. I asked them about OSX syncing and they forwarded me to the MarkSpace product... (That's how I got here) Then come to find out they don't 'know' when or if they're going to support it. Crazy that they would recommend a product that they don't even support!!!!! I'm floored by the fact that the software has been ready since January, and Danger/T-Mobile are dragging their feet! Kenn On Oct 29, 2004, at 9:23 AM, Mike Brodhead wrote: > Fond as I am of yelling at people we are a lot more likely to get what > we want by being polite. Dozens of people calling up and asking for > something will be seen as customers expressing a need. Dozends of > people calling up to rant will just be perceived as jerks. > > Let's keep the focus on getting what we want, not expressing our anger. From jon at schalliol.com Fri Oct 29 15:18:57 2004 From: jon at schalliol.com (Jonathan Schalliol) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:33 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Re: missing-sync-hiptop-talk Digest, Vol 10, Issue 8 In-Reply-To: <200410291900.i9TJ0MSF021504@penguin.markspace.com> References: <200410291900.i9TJ0MSF021504@penguin.markspace.com> Message-ID: Right, no yelling, just requesting....and being persistent about them saying it has sync and not offering to others, even when there's a product out there From mkb_cbr at mac.com Fri Oct 29 13:44:34 2004 From: mkb_cbr at mac.com (Mike Brodhead) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:33 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Re: missing-sync-hiptop-talk Digest, Vol 10, Issue 6 In-Reply-To: <3F85D7FA-29D2-11D9-9D50-000A95D9A2CC@ditherwerk.com> References: <200410272026.i9RKQcSF027547@penguin.markspace.com> <3F85D7FA-29D2-11D9-9D50-000A95D9A2CC@ditherwerk.com> Message-ID: <1099079079.3AF3379A@h28.dngr.org> On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 11:07 am, Kenn Michael wrote: > I've already been emailing back and forth with T-Mobile about this... Care to share your contact there? > Crazy that they would recommend a product that they don't even > support!!!!! Heh. That's unfortunate but also par for the course with large companies. One hand doesn't know what the other is doing. --mkb From kenn at ditherwerk.com Fri Oct 29 13:54:18 2004 From: kenn at ditherwerk.com (Kenn Michael) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:33 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Re: missing-sync-hiptop-talk Digest, Vol 10, Issue 6 In-Reply-To: <1099079079.3AF3379A@h28.dngr.org> References: <200410272026.i9RKQcSF027547@penguin.markspace.com> <3F85D7FA-29D2-11D9-9D50-000A95D9A2CC@ditherwerk.com> <1099079079.3AF3379A@h28.dngr.org> Message-ID: <5179946F-29E4-11D9-9D50-000A95D9A2CC@ditherwerk.com> On Oct 29, 2004, at 12:44 PM, Mike Brodhead wrote: > On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 11:07 am, Kenn Michael wrote: >> I've already been emailing back and forth with T-Mobile about this... > > Care to share your contact there? Sure. There's been three people who have handled my customer support questions via email: Kevin is the one who recommended the software. Nicholas P said he didn't know when or if it would be supported. And Charles had to apologize after I emailed a disapproving sentiment about forwarding me to a product that they won't support. Kenn