From fryzinger at hotmail.com Mon Mar 1 02:26:27 2004 From: fryzinger at hotmail.com (Daniel Frysinger) Date: Mon Mar 1 01:26:31 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] FW: The results of your email commands Message-ID: Hi, I just received the update on my phone from T-Mobile... Does this mean we may receive the software soon? Thanks! ~Daniel _________________________________________________________________ Click, drag and drop. My MSN is the simple way to design your homepage. http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200364ave/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: "Daniel Frysinger" Subject: Now that the OTA Update is out? Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 02:23:24 -0700 Size: 1304 Url: http://lists.markspace.com/pipermail/missing-sync-hiptop-talk/attachments/20040301/7c710a00/attachment.eml From kfreeman at markspace.com Mon Mar 1 09:54:41 2004 From: kfreeman at markspace.com (Ken Freeman) Date: Mon Mar 1 09:54:45 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] FW: The results of your email commands In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <83C7E85C-6BA9-11D8-8639-000A9570181E@markspace.com> The Over the Air update for your device is part of the picture. Other changes on the server side still need to be made to fully enable PIM sync. Thanks! Ken On Mar 1, 2004, at 1:26 AM, Daniel Frysinger wrote: > Hi, > > I just received the update on my phone from T-Mobile... > > Does this mean we may receive the software soon? > > Thanks! > ~Daniel > > _________________________________________________________________ > Click, drag and drop. My MSN is the simple way to design your > homepage. http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200364ave/direct/01/ > > From: "Daniel Frysinger" > Date: March 1, 2004 1:23:24 AM PST > To: missing-sync-hiptop-talk-request@lists.markspace.com > Subject: Now that the OTA Update is out? > > > Hi, > > I just received the update on my phone from T-Mobile... > > Any chance of releasing the software soon? > > Thanks! > ~Daniel > > _________________________________________________________________ > Say ?good-bye? to spam, viruses and pop-ups with MSN Premium -- free > trial offer! http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200359ave/direct/01/ > > > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list > missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk From fryzinger at hotmail.com Mon Mar 1 19:15:15 2004 From: fryzinger at hotmail.com (Daniel Frysinger) Date: Mon Mar 1 18:15:18 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] FW: The results of your email commands Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.markspace.com/pipermail/missing-sync-hiptop-talk/attachments/20040301/2c82ef27/attachment.htm From Sandra.Frias at mtvstaff.com Tue Mar 2 10:21:14 2004 From: Sandra.Frias at mtvstaff.com (Frias, Sandra - MTVN) Date: Tue Mar 2 07:21:24 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] FW: The results of your email comm ands Message-ID: When are we getting the software to sync our sidekick with our MAC computers. The website said end of February. Any idea? > ---------- > From: missing-sync-hiptop-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com on > behalf of Daniel Frysinger > Reply To: The Missing Sync (Mac/hiptop) Discussion List > Sent: Monday, March 1, 2004 9:15 PM > To: missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com > Subject: Re: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] FW: The results of your email > commands > > <> > Got it, thanks > > ~Daniel > > > > >From: Ken Freeman > >Reply-To: "The Missing Sync (Mac/hiptop) Discussion List" > >To: "The Missing Sync (Mac/hiptop) Discussion List" > >Subject: Re: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] FW: The results of your email > commands > >Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 09:54:41 -0800 > > > >The Over the Air update for your device is part of the picture. > >Other changes on the server side still need to be made to fully > >enable PIM sync. > > > >Thanks! > >Ken > > > >On Mar 1, 2004, at 1:26 AM, Daniel Frysinger wrote: > > > >>Hi, > >> > >>I just received the update on my phone from T-Mobile... > >> > >>Does this mean we may receive the software soon? > >> > >>Thanks! > >>~Daniel > >> > >>_________________________________________________________________ > >>Click, drag and drop. My MSN is the simple way to design your > >>homepage. http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200364ave/direct/01/ > >> > >>From: "Daniel Frysinger" > >>Date: March 1, 2004 1:23:24 AM PST > >>To: missing-sync-hiptop-talk-request@lists.markspace.com > >>Subject: Now that the OTA Update is out? > >> > >> > >>Hi, > >> > >>I just received the update on my phone from T-Mobile... > >> > >>Any chance of releasing the software soon? > >> > >>Thanks! > >>~Daniel > >> > >>_________________________________________________________________ > >>Say "good-bye" to spam, viruses and pop-ups with MSN Premium -- > >>free trial offer! > >>http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200359ave/direct/01/ > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list > >>missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com > >>http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list > >missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com > >http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk > > _____ > > Store more e-mails with MSN Hotmail Extra Storage - 4 plans to choose > from! > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.markspace.com/pipermail/missing-sync-hiptop-talk/attachments/20040302/e32af793/attachment.htm From sgruby at markspace.com Tue Mar 2 07:23:32 2004 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Tue Mar 2 07:26:53 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] FW: The results of your email comm ands In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <909E7D68-6C5D-11D8-A576-000393A57B52@markspace.com> On Mar 2, 2004, at 7:21 AM, Frias, Sandra - MTVN wrote: > When are we getting the software to sync our sidekick with our MAC > computers. The website said end of February. Any idea? > Please see the post from last week: for information on the current status. -- Scott Gruby Lead Engineer Mark/Space, Inc. From Sandra.Frias at mtvstaff.com Tue Mar 2 10:36:45 2004 From: Sandra.Frias at mtvstaff.com (Frias, Sandra - MTVN) Date: Tue Mar 2 07:37:00 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] FW: The results of your email comm ands Message-ID: Scott I couldn't open it or go to that website. Can you tell me the latest news. > ---------- > From: missing-sync-hiptop-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com on > behalf of Scott Gruby > Reply To: The Missing Sync (Mac/hiptop) Discussion List > Sent: Tuesday, March 2, 2004 10:23 AM > To: The Missing Sync (Mac/hiptop) Discussion List > Subject: Re: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] FW: The results of your email > comm ands > > > On Mar 2, 2004, at 7:21 AM, Frias, Sandra - MTVN wrote: > > > When are we getting the software to sync our sidekick with our MAC > > computers. The website said end of February. Any idea? > > > > Please see the post from last week: > February/000098.html> for information on the current status. > > > -- > Scott Gruby > Lead Engineer > Mark/Space, Inc. > > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list > missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.markspace.com/pipermail/missing-sync-hiptop-talk/attachments/20040302/80001913/attachment.htm From sgruby at markspace.com Tue Mar 2 07:40:41 2004 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Tue Mar 2 07:44:03 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] FW: The results of your email comm ands In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mar 2, 2004, at 7:36 AM, Frias, Sandra - MTVN wrote: > Scott I couldn't open it or go to that website. Can you tell me the > latest > news. > "The Missing Sync for hiptop software has been completed and tested and awaits server changes being made by Danger and their carriers before it can be made available. Previous goals for these server changes suggested a targeted Missing Sync ship date in February 2004, but we have been notified that these server changes have not yet been completed. Unfortunately, the release date for the Missing Sync for hiptop will be delayed until Danger and their carriers have made the necessary preparations. Each Danger hiptop carrier will decide if and when they plan to support PIM synchronization. The first carrier to support synchronization will be T-Mobile, with the other hiptop carriers to possibly follow. We apologize for the inconvenience and will announce availability on the Missing Sync for hiptop email discussion list as new information is made available. Ken Freeman Mark/Space, Inc. Product Manager " -- Scott Gruby Lead Engineer Mark/Space, Inc. From Robin.Johnson at ft.com Wed Mar 3 14:40:15 2004 From: Robin.Johnson at ft.com (Robin.Johnson@ft.com) Date: Wed Mar 3 11:38:18 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] unsubscribe Message-ID: Robin Johnson Financial Times - 212 641 6480 CELL: 917 318 8713 robin88@att.net FAX: 212 641 6481 ----- Forwarded by Robin Johnson/NEW YORK/FINANCIAL TIMES on 03/03/04 02:42 PM ----- "Daniel Frysinger" Sent by: missing-sync-hiptop-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com 03/01/04 09:15 PM Please respond to "The Missing Sync \(Mac/hiptop\) Discussion List" < To: missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com< cc: Subject: Re: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] FW: The results of your email commands Got it, thanks ~Daniel >From: Ken Freeman >Reply-To: "The Missing Sync (Mac/hiptop) Discussion List" >To: "The Missing Sync (Mac/hiptop) Discussion List" >Subject: Re: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] FW: The results of your email commands >Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 09:54:41 -0800 > >The Over the Air update for your device is part of the picture. >Other changes on the server side still need to be made to fully >enable PIM sync. > >Thanks! >Ken > >On Mar 1, 2004, at 1:26 AM, Daniel Frysinger wrote: > >>Hi, >> >>I just received the update on my phone from T-Mobile... >> >>Does this mean we may receive the software soon? >> >>Thanks! >>~Daniel >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>Click, drag and drop. My MSN is the simple way to design your >>homepage. http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200364ave/direct/01/ >> >>From: "Daniel Frysinger" >>Date: March 1, 2004 1:23:24 AM PST >>To: missing-sync-hiptop-talk-request@lists.markspace.com >>Subject: Now that the OTA Update is out? >> >> >>Hi, >> >>I just received the update on my phone from T-Mobile... >> >>Any chance of releasing the software soon? >> >>Thanks! >>~Daniel >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>Say ?good-bye? to spam, viruses and pop-ups with MSN Premium -- >>free trial offer! >>http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200359ave/direct/01/ >> >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list >>missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com >>http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk > > >_______________________________________________ >missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list >missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com >http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk Store more e-mails with MSN Hotmail Extra Storage ? 4 plans to choose from! _______________________________________________ missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk ********************************************************************************** This email may contain confidential material. If you were not an intended recipient, please notify the sender and delete all copies. We may monitor email to and from our network. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.markspace.com/pipermail/missing-sync-hiptop-talk/attachments/20040303/ecea5be6/attachment.htm From envaffairs at mac.com Thu Mar 11 08:55:16 2004 From: envaffairs at mac.com (Howard Berman) Date: Thu Mar 11 05:55:23 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] iSync Message-ID: Hello. IS there any news/update when we will be able to sync our sidekick with our Mac? Thanks. Howard From kthuguley at charter.net Thu Mar 11 09:12:29 2004 From: kthuguley at charter.net (Kendall Huguley) Date: Thu Mar 11 06:16:10 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Remove my name from list Message-ID: Please remove my name from this list Kendall Huguley -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.markspace.com/pipermail/missing-sync-hiptop-talk/attachments/20040311/86b1ab98/attachment.htm From pete at bridgesong.org Thu Mar 11 10:59:27 2004 From: pete at bridgesong.org (Pete Episcopo) Date: Thu Mar 11 07:59:40 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] iSync In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <13001082-7375-11D8-8613-000A95C4F970@bridgesong.org> According to the site (markspace.com) the program is done. they're just waiting for t-mobile to get with it... On Mar 11, 2004, at 8:55 AM, Howard Berman wrote: > Hello. IS there any news/update when we will be able to sync our > sidekick with our Mac? Thanks. > > Howard > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list > missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk > From wilcox at unm.edu Tue Mar 16 08:19:02 2004 From: wilcox at unm.edu (Sherman Wilcox) Date: Tue Mar 16 07:19:08 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Tmobile? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040316151902.14346@smtp.comcast.net> Is T-Mobile (and the other carriers) ever going to get geared up to permit us to give our money to Mark/Space? I'd love to do the latter. I'm getting pretty fed up with the former. ;-) -- Sherman From Sandra.Frias at mtvstaff.com Tue Mar 16 10:46:03 2004 From: Sandra.Frias at mtvstaff.com (Frias, Sandra - MTVN) Date: Tue Mar 16 07:46:07 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Tmobile? Message-ID: I'm with you Sherman. I called T-Mobile last night and asked someone from their Wireless Data Group about the Missing Sync and they had no idea what I was talking about. I thought T-Mobile knew about it? Why is Mark/Space giving us the wrong information. I spoke to someone at Danger, Inc. and they said they have no information regarding the Missing Sync. Can't we just buy it from Mark/Space? Why do we need to wait for T-Mobile and Danger? > ---------- > From: Sherman Wilcox > Reply To: The Missing Sync (Mac/hiptop) Discussion List > Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 10:19 AM > To: The Missing Sync (Mac/hiptop) Discussion List > Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Tmobile? > > Is T-Mobile (and the other carriers) ever going to get geared up to > permit us to give our money to Mark/Space? I'd love to do the latter. I'm > getting pretty fed up with the former. > > ;-) > -- > Sherman > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list > missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.markspace.com/pipermail/missing-sync-hiptop-talk/attachments/20040316/2d23a33d/attachment.htm From gss+hipsync at cs.brown.edu Tue Mar 16 11:03:01 2004 From: gss+hipsync at cs.brown.edu (Gregory Seidman) Date: Tue Mar 16 08:03:03 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Tmobile? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040316160301.GA29817@cs.brown.edu> On Tue, Mar 16, 2004 at 10:46:03AM -0500, Frias, Sandra - MTVN wrote: } I'm with you Sherman. I called T-Mobile last night and asked someone from } their Wireless Data Group about the Missing Sync and they had no idea what I } was talking about. I thought T-Mobile knew about it? Why is Mark/Space } giving us the wrong information. I spoke to someone at Danger, Inc. and } they said they have no information regarding the Missing Sync. Can't we } just buy it from Mark/Space? Why do we need to wait for T-Mobile and } Danger? My understanding is that a variety of services, including purchasing items in the Catalog and PIM synchronization, are waiting for Danger and the various carriers to get their billing systems integrated. It looks like a lot of neat stuff which might cost money, at the discretion of the carrier or Danger, cannot be made available to consumers until the appropriate parties can be billed/paid automatically. This does not mean that Danger or your carrier will necessarily bill you for synchronization services, but billing has to be possible for the service to be rolled out. --Greg From wilcox at unm.edu Tue Mar 16 09:05:17 2004 From: wilcox at unm.edu (Sherman Wilcox) Date: Tue Mar 16 08:05:22 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Tmobile? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040316160517.17946@smtp.comcast.net> Frias, said: >Why is Mark/Space giving us the wrong information. I really don't think M/S is giving us wrong information! And I'm not surprised that the people who answer the phones at TMOB don't have a clue. -- Sherman From Sandra.Frias at mtvstaff.com Tue Mar 16 11:08:22 2004 From: Sandra.Frias at mtvstaff.com (Frias, Sandra - MTVN) Date: Tue Mar 16 08:08:26 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Tmobile? Message-ID: But why doesn't Danger have a clue? > ---------- > From: Sherman Wilcox > Reply To: The Missing Sync (Mac/hiptop) Discussion List > Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 11:05 AM > To: The Missing Sync (Mac/hiptop) Discussion List > Subject: RE: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Tmobile? > > Frias, said: > > >Why is Mark/Space giving us the wrong information. > > I really don't think M/S is giving us wrong information! And I'm not > surprised that the people who answer the phones at TMOB don't have a clue. > > -- > Sherman > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list > missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.markspace.com/pipermail/missing-sync-hiptop-talk/attachments/20040316/75e6525f/attachment.htm From wilcox at unm.edu Tue Mar 16 09:14:09 2004 From: wilcox at unm.edu (Sherman Wilcox) Date: Tue Mar 16 08:14:13 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Tmobile? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040316161409.20502@smtp.comcast.net> Frias, said: >But why doesn't Danger have a clue? Well, it's still phone-droids that we're talking to when we call Danger. But it sure seems to me that Danger and TMO are in a 'blame each other' game. I have a friend who's gone through 7 or so busted SideKicks, and the whole refurb fiasco. She gets nothing but the runaround from both parties. I want to reiterate: I've heard nothing but the highest praise from people who use Mark/Space products. A colleague of mine has a Clie and *loves* Missing Sync. If Danger/TMO ever get their act together, I'll buy Missing Sync. If not, I'll be looking at switching to something else (probably a Treo). Either way, I gladly give my money to Mark/Space. -- Sherman From Robin.Johnson at ft.com Tue Mar 16 11:45:22 2004 From: Robin.Johnson at ft.com (Robin.Johnson@ft.com) Date: Tue Mar 16 08:43:29 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] unsubscribe In-Reply-To: <20040316161409.20502@smtp.comcast.net> Message-ID: Robin Johnson Financial Times - 212 641 6480 CELL: 917 318 8713 robin88@att.net FAX: 212 641 6481 "Sherman Wilcox" Sent by: missing-sync-hiptop-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com 03/16/04 11:14 AM Please respond to "The Missing Sync \(Mac/hiptop\) Discussion List" < To: "The Missing Sync (Mac/hiptop) Discussion List" < cc: Subject: RE: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Tmobile? Frias, said: >But why doesn't Danger have a clue? Well, it's still phone-droids that we're talking to when we call Danger. But it sure seems to me that Danger and TMO are in a 'blame each other' game. I have a friend who's gone through 7 or so busted SideKicks, and the whole refurb fiasco. She gets nothing but the runaround from both parties. I want to reiterate: I've heard nothing but the highest praise from people who use Mark/Space products. A colleague of mine has a Clie and *loves* Missing Sync. If Danger/TMO ever get their act together, I'll buy Missing Sync. If not, I'll be looking at switching to something else (probably a Treo). Either way, I gladly give my money to Mark/Space. -- Sherman _______________________________________________ missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk ********************************************************************************** This email may contain confidential material. If you were not an intended recipient, please notify the sender and delete all copies. We may monitor email to and from our network. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.markspace.com/pipermail/missing-sync-hiptop-talk/attachments/20040316/625f8bb2/attachment.htm From jon at schalliol.com Tue Mar 16 09:16:45 2004 From: jon at schalliol.com (Jonathan Schalliol) Date: Tue Mar 16 09:17:02 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] RE: Tmobile? In-Reply-To: <200403161703.i2GH31CN000928@penguin.markspace.com> References: <200403161703.i2GH31CN000928@penguin.markspace.com> Message-ID: If M/S hadn't jumped the gun on the announcement date, people wouldn't be complaining about T-Mobile & Danger as we are. Given that M/S set up this list, perhaps they could give us a weekly update on that progress or something to that effect. We don't have a heck of a lot ot discuss without the software! From gss+hipsync at cs.brown.edu Tue Mar 16 13:44:33 2004 From: gss+hipsync at cs.brown.edu (Gregory Seidman) Date: Tue Mar 16 10:44:36 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] RE: Tmobile? In-Reply-To: References: <200403161703.i2GH31CN000928@penguin.markspace.com> Message-ID: <20040316184433.GA2136@cs.brown.edu> On Tue, Mar 16, 2004 at 09:16:45AM -0800, Jonathan Schalliol wrote: } If M/S hadn't jumped the gun on the announcement date, people } wouldn't be complaining about T-Mobile & Danger as we are. Given } that M/S set up this list, perhaps they could give us a weekly update } on that progress or something to that effect. We don't have a heck } of a lot ot discuss without the software! I wouldn't be too hard on Mark/Space. They were given assurances by the parties involved (Danger and carriers) that things would be ready by the end of the month (February being the month in question). I'm guessing they didn't get it in writing, because otherwise there'd be some legal proceedings afoot. Anyhow Danger and/or the carriers guessed wrong on when the backend would be ready, so Mark/Space is left in an uncomfortable position. Until Danger and the carriers get their ducks in a row, we get nothing and there is nothing Mark/Space can do about it. --Greg From wms3 at wms3.com Tue Mar 16 13:46:45 2004 From: wms3 at wms3.com (Wilbur M. Sims III) Date: Tue Mar 16 11:19:37 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] The natives are restless... In-Reply-To: References: <200403161703.i2GH31CN000928@penguin.markspace.com> Message-ID: <4631A06A-777A-11D8-BF73-000A95C70738@wms3.com> This originally went to the Danger's Hiptop forums... --begin Really I felt like I could see this coming as the end of the month got closer and closer and the mailing list had no new release date information... anyway... from the horses mouth... [snip the original delay announcement] I'm not sure what they are appologizing for really as it would seem that some sort of agreement was made somewhere that the web servers would be ready by the end of February -- obviously this didn't come to pass. So either Mark/Space made a release date they had no business making -- or "Danger and their carriers" dropped the ball and screwed us all who thought this was "going to be the week". Its funny... I work on a network of more than 10,000 users. And yes, we do occasionally miss deadlines. But I can't think of a single instance in which we were going to miss a deadline where we couldn't give the users more than a weeks notice and a detailed account as to why we were going to miss it. Consumers have just become occustomed to taking it in the rear. Mark/Space and crew -- I for one appreciate your willingness to at least let us know why this occurred. Hope this isn't how things will progress for all other third party developers working with Danger and their carriers moving forward. --end And after waiting yet another two weeks, my frustration point has begun to reach its limit. So the following just went off to their forums... --begin Subject: Danger... Please Respond... In one form or another I am not only a customer of your product, but also an ambassador of your product. While I know our relationship is not the conventional one to one customer relationship, you do still profit or lose potential profits due to my ambassadorship of your product. Therefore I feel entitled to an answer regarding the following question, which many other than myself have been asking you for over a year (though with much more fervor of late due to the recent Mark/Space announcement): When will the application interface for PIMs be finished on your servers? Mark/Space was obviously led to believe that this would be completed by the end of February. Thousands of other Hiptop owners were lead to believe they would have synchronization abilities over a year ago. But now we, your customers and ambassadors, know a product is ready and waiting on you and whatever deal you have with TMobile (a part owner of Danger). So, on what date will your servers be ready? Calls to Danger net no information. Calls to TMobile net no information. Mark/Space has no new information to add. So I beseech you, give me a date so that I may set my expectations of your product accordingly. [As an aside to any possible Danger Fanboiis to whom this letter is not addressed, I present the following analogy. What Danger/TMO are doing is akin to your local telephone company (assuming you have competing phone companies in your area) doing the following: "Voicemail is coming to your telephone soon!" (six months pass) "Our partners are working on voicemail solutions now!" (six months pass) Phone Company Partner: "Announcing Voicemail for your telephone! Coming soon!" (six months pass) Phone Company Partner: "Well, we have the voicemail system ready to go, we just need the phone company to give us access to their facilities." -- Its not a perfect analogy, but it works well enough.] --end -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From fryzinger at hotmail.com Mon Mar 1 02:26:27 2004 From: fryzinger at hotmail.com (Daniel Frysinger) Date: Fri Mar 19 09:51:56 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] FW: The results of your email commands Message-ID: Hi, I just received the update on my phone from T-Mobile... Does this mean we may receive the software soon? Thanks! ~Daniel _________________________________________________________________ Click, drag and drop. My MSN is the simple way to design your homepage. http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200364ave/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: "Daniel Frysinger" Subject: Now that the OTA Update is out? Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 02:23:24 -0700 Size: 1304 Url: http://lists.markspace.com/pipermail/missing-sync-hiptop-talk/attachments/20040301/7c710a00/attachment-0002.eml From kfreeman at markspace.com Mon Mar 1 09:54:41 2004 From: kfreeman at markspace.com (Ken Freeman) Date: Fri Mar 19 09:51:56 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] FW: The results of your email commands In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <83C7E85C-6BA9-11D8-8639-000A9570181E@markspace.com> The Over the Air update for your device is part of the picture. Other changes on the server side still need to be made to fully enable PIM sync. Thanks! Ken On Mar 1, 2004, at 1:26 AM, Daniel Frysinger wrote: > Hi, > > I just received the update on my phone from T-Mobile... > > Does this mean we may receive the software soon? > > Thanks! > ~Daniel > > _________________________________________________________________ > Click, drag and drop. My MSN is the simple way to design your > homepage. http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200364ave/direct/01/ > > From: "Daniel Frysinger" > Date: March 1, 2004 1:23:24 AM PST > To: missing-sync-hiptop-talk-request@lists.markspace.com > Subject: Now that the OTA Update is out? > > > Hi, > > I just received the update on my phone from T-Mobile... > > Any chance of releasing the software soon? > > Thanks! > ~Daniel > > _________________________________________________________________ > Say ?good-bye? to spam, viruses and pop-ups with MSN Premium -- free > trial offer! http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200359ave/direct/01/ > > > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list > missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk From fryzinger at hotmail.com Mon Mar 1 19:15:15 2004 From: fryzinger at hotmail.com (Daniel Frysinger) Date: Fri Mar 19 09:51:56 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] FW: The results of your email commands Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.markspace.com/pipermail/missing-sync-hiptop-talk/attachments/20040301/2c82ef27/attachment-0002.htm From Sandra.Frias at mtvstaff.com Tue Mar 2 10:21:14 2004 From: Sandra.Frias at mtvstaff.com (Frias, Sandra - MTVN) Date: Fri Mar 19 09:51:56 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] FW: The results of your email comm ands Message-ID: When are we getting the software to sync our sidekick with our MAC computers. The website said end of February. Any idea? > ---------- > From: missing-sync-hiptop-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com on > behalf of Daniel Frysinger > Reply To: The Missing Sync (Mac/hiptop) Discussion List > Sent: Monday, March 1, 2004 9:15 PM > To: missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com > Subject: Re: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] FW: The results of your email > commands > > <> > Got it, thanks > > ~Daniel > > > > >From: Ken Freeman > >Reply-To: "The Missing Sync (Mac/hiptop) Discussion List" > >To: "The Missing Sync (Mac/hiptop) Discussion List" > >Subject: Re: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] FW: The results of your email > commands > >Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 09:54:41 -0800 > > > >The Over the Air update for your device is part of the picture. > >Other changes on the server side still need to be made to fully > >enable PIM sync. > > > >Thanks! > >Ken > > > >On Mar 1, 2004, at 1:26 AM, Daniel Frysinger wrote: > > > >>Hi, > >> > >>I just received the update on my phone from T-Mobile... > >> > >>Does this mean we may receive the software soon? > >> > >>Thanks! > >>~Daniel > >> > >>_________________________________________________________________ > >>Click, drag and drop. My MSN is the simple way to design your > >>homepage. http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200364ave/direct/01/ > >> > >>From: "Daniel Frysinger" > >>Date: March 1, 2004 1:23:24 AM PST > >>To: missing-sync-hiptop-talk-request@lists.markspace.com > >>Subject: Now that the OTA Update is out? > >> > >> > >>Hi, > >> > >>I just received the update on my phone from T-Mobile... > >> > >>Any chance of releasing the software soon? > >> > >>Thanks! > >>~Daniel > >> > >>_________________________________________________________________ > >>Say "good-bye" to spam, viruses and pop-ups with MSN Premium -- > >>free trial offer! > >>http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200359ave/direct/01/ > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list > >>missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com > >>http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list > >missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com > >http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk > > _____ > > Store more e-mails with MSN Hotmail Extra Storage - 4 plans to choose > from! > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.markspace.com/pipermail/missing-sync-hiptop-talk/attachments/20040302/e32af793/attachment-0002.htm From sgruby at markspace.com Tue Mar 2 07:23:32 2004 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Fri Mar 19 09:51:56 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] FW: The results of your email comm ands In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <909E7D68-6C5D-11D8-A576-000393A57B52@markspace.com> On Mar 2, 2004, at 7:21 AM, Frias, Sandra - MTVN wrote: > When are we getting the software to sync our sidekick with our MAC > computers. The website said end of February. Any idea? > Please see the post from last week: for information on the current status. -- Scott Gruby Lead Engineer Mark/Space, Inc. From Sandra.Frias at mtvstaff.com Tue Mar 2 10:36:45 2004 From: Sandra.Frias at mtvstaff.com (Frias, Sandra - MTVN) Date: Fri Mar 19 09:51:56 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] FW: The results of your email comm ands Message-ID: Scott I couldn't open it or go to that website. Can you tell me the latest news. > ---------- > From: missing-sync-hiptop-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com on > behalf of Scott Gruby > Reply To: The Missing Sync (Mac/hiptop) Discussion List > Sent: Tuesday, March 2, 2004 10:23 AM > To: The Missing Sync (Mac/hiptop) Discussion List > Subject: Re: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] FW: The results of your email > comm ands > > > On Mar 2, 2004, at 7:21 AM, Frias, Sandra - MTVN wrote: > > > When are we getting the software to sync our sidekick with our MAC > > computers. The website said end of February. Any idea? > > > > Please see the post from last week: > February/000098.html> for information on the current status. > > > -- > Scott Gruby > Lead Engineer > Mark/Space, Inc. > > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list > missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.markspace.com/pipermail/missing-sync-hiptop-talk/attachments/20040302/80001913/attachment-0002.htm From sgruby at markspace.com Tue Mar 2 07:40:41 2004 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Fri Mar 19 09:51:56 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] FW: The results of your email comm ands In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mar 2, 2004, at 7:36 AM, Frias, Sandra - MTVN wrote: > Scott I couldn't open it or go to that website. Can you tell me the > latest > news. > "The Missing Sync for hiptop software has been completed and tested and awaits server changes being made by Danger and their carriers before it can be made available. Previous goals for these server changes suggested a targeted Missing Sync ship date in February 2004, but we have been notified that these server changes have not yet been completed. Unfortunately, the release date for the Missing Sync for hiptop will be delayed until Danger and their carriers have made the necessary preparations. Each Danger hiptop carrier will decide if and when they plan to support PIM synchronization. The first carrier to support synchronization will be T-Mobile, with the other hiptop carriers to possibly follow. We apologize for the inconvenience and will announce availability on the Missing Sync for hiptop email discussion list as new information is made available. Ken Freeman Mark/Space, Inc. Product Manager " -- Scott Gruby Lead Engineer Mark/Space, Inc. From Robin.Johnson at ft.com Wed Mar 3 14:40:15 2004 From: Robin.Johnson at ft.com (Robin.Johnson@ft.com) Date: Fri Mar 19 09:51:56 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] unsubscribe Message-ID: Robin Johnson Financial Times - 212 641 6480 CELL: 917 318 8713 robin88@att.net FAX: 212 641 6481 ----- Forwarded by Robin Johnson/NEW YORK/FINANCIAL TIMES on 03/03/04 02:42 PM ----- "Daniel Frysinger" Sent by: missing-sync-hiptop-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com 03/01/04 09:15 PM Please respond to "The Missing Sync \(Mac/hiptop\) Discussion List" < To: missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com< cc: Subject: Re: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] FW: The results of your email commands Got it, thanks ~Daniel >From: Ken Freeman >Reply-To: "The Missing Sync (Mac/hiptop) Discussion List" >To: "The Missing Sync (Mac/hiptop) Discussion List" >Subject: Re: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] FW: The results of your email commands >Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 09:54:41 -0800 > >The Over the Air update for your device is part of the picture. >Other changes on the server side still need to be made to fully >enable PIM sync. > >Thanks! >Ken > >On Mar 1, 2004, at 1:26 AM, Daniel Frysinger wrote: > >>Hi, >> >>I just received the update on my phone from T-Mobile... >> >>Does this mean we may receive the software soon? >> >>Thanks! >>~Daniel >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>Click, drag and drop. My MSN is the simple way to design your >>homepage. http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200364ave/direct/01/ >> >>From: "Daniel Frysinger" >>Date: March 1, 2004 1:23:24 AM PST >>To: missing-sync-hiptop-talk-request@lists.markspace.com >>Subject: Now that the OTA Update is out? >> >> >>Hi, >> >>I just received the update on my phone from T-Mobile... >> >>Any chance of releasing the software soon? >> >>Thanks! >>~Daniel >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>Say ?good-bye? to spam, viruses and pop-ups with MSN Premium -- >>free trial offer! >>http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200359ave/direct/01/ >> >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list >>missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com >>http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk > > >_______________________________________________ >missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list >missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com >http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk Store more e-mails with MSN Hotmail Extra Storage ? 4 plans to choose from! _______________________________________________ missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk ********************************************************************************** This email may contain confidential material. 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URL: http://lists.markspace.com/pipermail/missing-sync-hiptop-talk/attachments/20040311/86b1ab98/attachment-0002.htm From pete at bridgesong.org Thu Mar 11 10:59:27 2004 From: pete at bridgesong.org (Pete Episcopo) Date: Fri Mar 19 09:51:56 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] iSync In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <13001082-7375-11D8-8613-000A95C4F970@bridgesong.org> According to the site (markspace.com) the program is done. they're just waiting for t-mobile to get with it... On Mar 11, 2004, at 8:55 AM, Howard Berman wrote: > Hello. IS there any news/update when we will be able to sync our > sidekick with our Mac? Thanks. > > Howard > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list > missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk > From wilcox at unm.edu Tue Mar 16 08:19:02 2004 From: wilcox at unm.edu (Sherman Wilcox) Date: Fri Mar 19 09:51:56 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Tmobile? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040316151902.14346@smtp.comcast.net> Is T-Mobile (and the other carriers) ever going to get geared up to permit us to give our money to Mark/Space? I'd love to do the latter. I'm getting pretty fed up with the former. ;-) -- Sherman From Sandra.Frias at mtvstaff.com Tue Mar 16 10:46:03 2004 From: Sandra.Frias at mtvstaff.com (Frias, Sandra - MTVN) Date: Fri Mar 19 09:51:56 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Tmobile? Message-ID: I'm with you Sherman. I called T-Mobile last night and asked someone from their Wireless Data Group about the Missing Sync and they had no idea what I was talking about. I thought T-Mobile knew about it? Why is Mark/Space giving us the wrong information. I spoke to someone at Danger, Inc. and they said they have no information regarding the Missing Sync. Can't we just buy it from Mark/Space? Why do we need to wait for T-Mobile and Danger? > ---------- > From: Sherman Wilcox > Reply To: The Missing Sync (Mac/hiptop) Discussion List > Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 10:19 AM > To: The Missing Sync (Mac/hiptop) Discussion List > Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Tmobile? > > Is T-Mobile (and the other carriers) ever going to get geared up to > permit us to give our money to Mark/Space? I'd love to do the latter. I'm > getting pretty fed up with the former. > > ;-) > -- > Sherman > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list > missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.markspace.com/pipermail/missing-sync-hiptop-talk/attachments/20040316/2d23a33d/attachment-0002.htm From gss+hipsync at cs.brown.edu Tue Mar 16 11:03:01 2004 From: gss+hipsync at cs.brown.edu (Gregory Seidman) Date: Fri Mar 19 09:51:56 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Tmobile? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040316160301.GA29817@cs.brown.edu> On Tue, Mar 16, 2004 at 10:46:03AM -0500, Frias, Sandra - MTVN wrote: } I'm with you Sherman. I called T-Mobile last night and asked someone from } their Wireless Data Group about the Missing Sync and they had no idea what I } was talking about. I thought T-Mobile knew about it? Why is Mark/Space } giving us the wrong information. I spoke to someone at Danger, Inc. and } they said they have no information regarding the Missing Sync. Can't we } just buy it from Mark/Space? Why do we need to wait for T-Mobile and } Danger? My understanding is that a variety of services, including purchasing items in the Catalog and PIM synchronization, are waiting for Danger and the various carriers to get their billing systems integrated. It looks like a lot of neat stuff which might cost money, at the discretion of the carrier or Danger, cannot be made available to consumers until the appropriate parties can be billed/paid automatically. This does not mean that Danger or your carrier will necessarily bill you for synchronization services, but billing has to be possible for the service to be rolled out. --Greg From wilcox at unm.edu Tue Mar 16 09:05:17 2004 From: wilcox at unm.edu (Sherman Wilcox) Date: Fri Mar 19 09:51:56 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Tmobile? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040316160517.17946@smtp.comcast.net> Frias, said: >Why is Mark/Space giving us the wrong information. I really don't think M/S is giving us wrong information! And I'm not surprised that the people who answer the phones at TMOB don't have a clue. -- Sherman From Sandra.Frias at mtvstaff.com Tue Mar 16 11:08:22 2004 From: Sandra.Frias at mtvstaff.com (Frias, Sandra - MTVN) Date: Fri Mar 19 09:51:56 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Tmobile? Message-ID: But why doesn't Danger have a clue? > ---------- > From: Sherman Wilcox > Reply To: The Missing Sync (Mac/hiptop) Discussion List > Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 11:05 AM > To: The Missing Sync (Mac/hiptop) Discussion List > Subject: RE: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Tmobile? > > Frias, said: > > >Why is Mark/Space giving us the wrong information. > > I really don't think M/S is giving us wrong information! And I'm not > surprised that the people who answer the phones at TMOB don't have a clue. > > -- > Sherman > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list > missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.markspace.com/pipermail/missing-sync-hiptop-talk/attachments/20040316/75e6525f/attachment-0002.htm From wilcox at unm.edu Tue Mar 16 09:14:09 2004 From: wilcox at unm.edu (Sherman Wilcox) Date: Fri Mar 19 09:51:56 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Tmobile? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040316161409.20502@smtp.comcast.net> Frias, said: >But why doesn't Danger have a clue? Well, it's still phone-droids that we're talking to when we call Danger. But it sure seems to me that Danger and TMO are in a 'blame each other' game. I have a friend who's gone through 7 or so busted SideKicks, and the whole refurb fiasco. She gets nothing but the runaround from both parties. I want to reiterate: I've heard nothing but the highest praise from people who use Mark/Space products. A colleague of mine has a Clie and *loves* Missing Sync. If Danger/TMO ever get their act together, I'll buy Missing Sync. If not, I'll be looking at switching to something else (probably a Treo). Either way, I gladly give my money to Mark/Space. -- Sherman From Robin.Johnson at ft.com Tue Mar 16 11:45:22 2004 From: Robin.Johnson at ft.com (Robin.Johnson@ft.com) Date: Fri Mar 19 09:51:56 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] unsubscribe In-Reply-To: <20040316161409.20502@smtp.comcast.net> Message-ID: Robin Johnson Financial Times - 212 641 6480 CELL: 917 318 8713 robin88@att.net FAX: 212 641 6481 "Sherman Wilcox" Sent by: missing-sync-hiptop-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com 03/16/04 11:14 AM Please respond to "The Missing Sync \(Mac/hiptop\) Discussion List" < To: "The Missing Sync (Mac/hiptop) Discussion List" < cc: Subject: RE: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Tmobile? Frias, said: >But why doesn't Danger have a clue? Well, it's still phone-droids that we're talking to when we call Danger. But it sure seems to me that Danger and TMO are in a 'blame each other' game. I have a friend who's gone through 7 or so busted SideKicks, and the whole refurb fiasco. She gets nothing but the runaround from both parties. I want to reiterate: I've heard nothing but the highest praise from people who use Mark/Space products. A colleague of mine has a Clie and *loves* Missing Sync. If Danger/TMO ever get their act together, I'll buy Missing Sync. If not, I'll be looking at switching to something else (probably a Treo). Either way, I gladly give my money to Mark/Space. -- Sherman _______________________________________________ missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk ********************************************************************************** This email may contain confidential material. If you were not an intended recipient, please notify the sender and delete all copies. We may monitor email to and from our network. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.markspace.com/pipermail/missing-sync-hiptop-talk/attachments/20040316/625f8bb2/attachment-0002.htm From jon at schalliol.com Tue Mar 16 09:16:45 2004 From: jon at schalliol.com (Jonathan Schalliol) Date: Fri Mar 19 09:51:56 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] RE: Tmobile? In-Reply-To: <200403161703.i2GH31CN000928@penguin.markspace.com> References: <200403161703.i2GH31CN000928@penguin.markspace.com> Message-ID: If M/S hadn't jumped the gun on the announcement date, people wouldn't be complaining about T-Mobile & Danger as we are. Given that M/S set up this list, perhaps they could give us a weekly update on that progress or something to that effect. We don't have a heck of a lot ot discuss without the software! From gss+hipsync at cs.brown.edu Tue Mar 16 13:44:33 2004 From: gss+hipsync at cs.brown.edu (Gregory Seidman) Date: Fri Mar 19 09:51:56 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] RE: Tmobile? In-Reply-To: References: <200403161703.i2GH31CN000928@penguin.markspace.com> Message-ID: <20040316184433.GA2136@cs.brown.edu> On Tue, Mar 16, 2004 at 09:16:45AM -0800, Jonathan Schalliol wrote: } If M/S hadn't jumped the gun on the announcement date, people } wouldn't be complaining about T-Mobile & Danger as we are. Given } that M/S set up this list, perhaps they could give us a weekly update } on that progress or something to that effect. We don't have a heck } of a lot ot discuss without the software! I wouldn't be too hard on Mark/Space. They were given assurances by the parties involved (Danger and carriers) that things would be ready by the end of the month (February being the month in question). I'm guessing they didn't get it in writing, because otherwise there'd be some legal proceedings afoot. Anyhow Danger and/or the carriers guessed wrong on when the backend would be ready, so Mark/Space is left in an uncomfortable position. Until Danger and the carriers get their ducks in a row, we get nothing and there is nothing Mark/Space can do about it. --Greg From wms3 at wms3.com Tue Mar 16 13:46:45 2004 From: wms3 at wms3.com (Wilbur M. Sims III) Date: Fri Mar 19 09:51:56 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] The natives are restless... In-Reply-To: References: <200403161703.i2GH31CN000928@penguin.markspace.com> Message-ID: <4631A06A-777A-11D8-BF73-000A95C70738@wms3.com> This originally went to the Danger's Hiptop forums... --begin Really I felt like I could see this coming as the end of the month got closer and closer and the mailing list had no new release date information... anyway... from the horses mouth... [snip the original delay announcement] I'm not sure what they are appologizing for really as it would seem that some sort of agreement was made somewhere that the web servers would be ready by the end of February -- obviously this didn't come to pass. So either Mark/Space made a release date they had no business making -- or "Danger and their carriers" dropped the ball and screwed us all who thought this was "going to be the week". Its funny... I work on a network of more than 10,000 users. And yes, we do occasionally miss deadlines. But I can't think of a single instance in which we were going to miss a deadline where we couldn't give the users more than a weeks notice and a detailed account as to why we were going to miss it. Consumers have just become occustomed to taking it in the rear. Mark/Space and crew -- I for one appreciate your willingness to at least let us know why this occurred. Hope this isn't how things will progress for all other third party developers working with Danger and their carriers moving forward. --end And after waiting yet another two weeks, my frustration point has begun to reach its limit. So the following just went off to their forums... --begin Subject: Danger... Please Respond... In one form or another I am not only a customer of your product, but also an ambassador of your product. While I know our relationship is not the conventional one to one customer relationship, you do still profit or lose potential profits due to my ambassadorship of your product. Therefore I feel entitled to an answer regarding the following question, which many other than myself have been asking you for over a year (though with much more fervor of late due to the recent Mark/Space announcement): When will the application interface for PIMs be finished on your servers? Mark/Space was obviously led to believe that this would be completed by the end of February. Thousands of other Hiptop owners were lead to believe they would have synchronization abilities over a year ago. But now we, your customers and ambassadors, know a product is ready and waiting on you and whatever deal you have with TMobile (a part owner of Danger). So, on what date will your servers be ready? Calls to Danger net no information. Calls to TMobile net no information. Mark/Space has no new information to add. So I beseech you, give me a date so that I may set my expectations of your product accordingly. [As an aside to any possible Danger Fanboiis to whom this letter is not addressed, I present the following analogy. What Danger/TMO are doing is akin to your local telephone company (assuming you have competing phone companies in your area) doing the following: "Voicemail is coming to your telephone soon!" (six months pass) "Our partners are working on voicemail solutions now!" (six months pass) Phone Company Partner: "Announcing Voicemail for your telephone! Coming soon!" (six months pass) Phone Company Partner: "Well, we have the voicemail system ready to go, we just need the phone company to give us access to their facilities." -- Its not a perfect analogy, but it works well enough.] --end -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 3480 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.markspace.com/pipermail/missing-sync-hiptop-talk/attachments/20040316/5d022db7/attachment-0002.bin From jon at schalliol.com Wed Mar 17 09:11:28 2004 From: jon at schalliol.com (Jonathan Schalliol) Date: Fri Mar 19 09:51:56 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Re: TMobile In-Reply-To: <200403171703.i2HH3gCN015412@penguin.markspace.com> References: <200403171703.i2HH3gCN015412@penguin.markspace.com> Message-ID: I wasn't blaming M/S, rather saying that everyone was so "YAY!!! Sync this month!!! The world is great!!" ...but then when it didn't happen all these other complaints came up. Meaning, people shouldn't complain so much about all these parties because 2 weeks ago everything generally seemed ok. From chrisrodney at sympatico.ca Sat Mar 20 10:09:22 2004 From: chrisrodney at sympatico.ca (Chris Rodney) Date: Sat Mar 20 07:09:32 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Message-ID: <9174CD26-7A80-11D8-B267-000A95B96DCA@sympatico.ca> I'm a hiptop (SideKick) customer in Toronto, Ontario, Canada. I contacted Fido (Microcell Solutions) to find out when (or if) they will support the Missing Sync tool. Here are their responses, along with my original message (newest message at the top). Chris Rodney | E-Mail: chrisrodney@sympatico.ca | Tel: 416-834-0298 | AIM/iChat/MSN: chrisrodney > From: "Web, Message" > Date: March 16, 2004 2:20:00 PM EST > To: "'chrisrodney@sympatico.ca'" > Subject: FIDO > > Dear Mr. Rodney, > > We would like to thank you for visiting our Fido web site. > > We would like to apologize for the delay in responding to your inquiry > as > your e-mail was sent to our technical department for an accurate > response. > > This is a 3rd party software. www.markspace.com would be the one > supporting > it as it developed it. Therefore, it is now up to the Carriers (Fido) > to > determine if they are going to offer or approve the use of this > software or > not. At this time, T-Mobile (US carrier) will be the first one to do > so (PC > solution still under test mode). Eventually, after T-Mobile's lunch, > other > Carriers should follow, including Fido. No release date has been > announced. > > For more information, Fido customer service representatives are > available by > phone at 1-888-481-3436, from 8 AM to 9 PM on weekdays, and from 9 AM > to 5 > PM on weekends. > > We are always pleased to assist you. > > Sincerely, > > Brigitte > Your Fido Internet Consultant > > Long-distance rates: > Fido has the lowest long-distance rate in North America: 0.10$ per > minute, > anytime, for calls within Canada and to the U.S. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Contact via Fido.ca [mailto:message.web@microcell.ca] > Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 2:33 PM > To: message.web@microcell.ca > Subject: Fido subscriber - - 416-8340298 > > > - User: Christopher Rodney > - English user > - Reply Requested! > - Question : > I'm a hiptop user (it's great), but I'm disappointed at the lack of a > true > software solution to sync it to my computer. That's why I was excited > when > the Missing Sync for HipTop was announced for the Mac > (http://www.markspace.com/hiptop.html). The developer says that the > software > is done but carriers need to make the decision to support it. So, will > Fido > be supporting Missing Sync? > > Quite frankly, I was ready to trade my hiptop in for a Blackberry or a > Palm > Tungsten W from Rogers until I heard about Missing Sync, and decided to > stick with the hiptop until it is released. It seems ideal for my > needs and > based on the posts in several online forums, it would seem that several > other Hiptop & Mac Users are looking forward to it. If you are not > going to > be supporting it, please let me know so that I can make other decisions > about phones and carriers. If you are going to support it and need > users to > test it with their hiptop, sign me up! > > Thanks! > > > Chris > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Here are their responses, along > with my original message (newest message at the top). > > Chris Rodney | E-Mail: chrisrodney@sympatico.ca | Tel: > 416-834-0298 | AIM/iChat/MSN: chrisrodney > > >> From: "Web, Message" >> Date: March 16, 2004 2:20:00 PM EST >> To: "'chrisrodney@sympatico.ca'" >> Subject: FIDO >> >> Dear Mr. Rodney, >> >> We would like to thank you for visiting our Fido web site. >> >> We would like to apologize for the delay in responding to your >> inquiry as >> your e-mail was sent to our technical department for an accurate >> response. >> >> This is a 3rd party software. www.markspace.com would be the one >> supporting >> it as it developed it. Therefore, it is now up to the Carriers (Fido) >> to >> determine if they are going to offer or approve the use of this >> software or >> not. At this time, T-Mobile (US carrier) will be the first one to do >> so (PC >> solution still under test mode). Eventually, after T-Mobile's lunch, >> other >> Carriers should follow, including Fido. No release date has been >> announced. >> >> For more information, Fido customer service representatives are >> available by >> phone at 1-888-481-3436, from 8 AM to 9 PM on weekdays, and from 9 AM >> to 5 >> PM on weekends. >> >> We are always pleased to assist you. >> >> Sincerely, >> >> Brigitte >> Your Fido Internet Consultant >> >> Long-distance rates: >> Fido has the lowest long-distance rate in North America: 0.10$ per >> minute, >> anytime, for calls within Canada and to the U.S. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Contact via Fido.ca [mailto:message.web@microcell.ca] >> Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 2:33 PM >> To: message.web@microcell.ca >> Subject: Fido subscriber - - 416-8340298 >> >> >> - User: Christopher Rodney >> - English user >> - Reply Requested! >> - Question : >> I'm a hiptop user (it's great), but I'm disappointed at the lack of a >> true >> software solution to sync it to my computer. That's why I was excited >> when >> the Missing Sync for HipTop was announced for the Mac >> (http://www.markspace.com/hiptop.html). The developer says that the >> software >> is done but carriers need to make the decision to support it. So, >> will Fido >> be supporting Missing Sync? >> >> Quite frankly, I was ready to trade my hiptop in for a Blackberry or >> a Palm >> Tungsten W from Rogers until I heard about Missing Sync, and decided >> to >> stick with the hiptop until it is released. It seems ideal for my >> needs and >> based on the posts in several online forums, it would seem that >> several >> other Hiptop & Mac Users are looking forward to it. If you are not >> going to >> be supporting it, please let me know so that I can make other >> decisions >> about phones and carriers. If you are going to support it and need >> users to >> test it with their hiptop, sign me up! >> >> Thanks! >> >> >> Chris >> > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list > missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Graham - grahams@csh.rit.edu http://www.sean-graham.com/ From mlevypro at ifrance.com Sun Mar 21 12:11:29 2004 From: mlevypro at ifrance.com (Michel Levy-Provencal) Date: Sun Mar 21 03:11:47 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] =?iso-8859-1?q?Looking_for_synchro_between_iCal_and_Cli=E9_TJ25?= In-Reply-To: <9174CD26-7A80-11D8-B267-000A95B96DCA@sympatico.ca> References: <9174CD26-7A80-11D8-B267-000A95B96DCA@sympatico.ca> Message-ID: <8093BFE5-7B28-11D8-A0CC-000A95DABC5E@ifrance.com> Hello, I am a new customer of Missing Sync. I am using it to synchronize My Cli? TJ25 with Palm Desktop on MacosX. I heard about hiptop wich should allow to synchronize a Cli? TJ25 with iCal and adress book. Can you help me to know a little bit more about it? Is there a beta version of it that i could download and test? Thanks. Michel Levy-Provencal | Tel: +336 60 48 28 38 | MSN/YHO: mlevypro -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Is there a beta version of it that i could download and test? The Hiptop is a specific cell phone, like the Clie. It is, however, unrelated to the Clie. You need a different product to deal with your Clie. These are not the droids you are looking for. } Thanks. } Michel Levy-Provencal | Tel: +336 60 48 28 38 | MSN/YHO: mlevypro --Greg From rgbrowning at yahoo.com Sun Mar 21 10:01:17 2004 From: rgbrowning at yahoo.com (Robert Browning) Date: Sun Mar 21 10:01:30 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Looking for synchro between iCal and Cli? TJ25 In-Reply-To: <20040321165200.GA16134@cs.brown.edu> Message-ID: <20040321180117.69458.qmail@web10402.mail.yahoo.com> I am also looking for way to download to my Garmin iQ3600 GPS/PDA from my imac.Thanks, Robert G. Browning --- Gregory Seidman wrote: > On Sun, Mar 21, 2004 at 12:11:29PM +0100, Michel Levy-Provencal > wrote: > } I am a new customer of Missing Sync. I am using it to synchronize > My > } Cli? TJ25 with Palm Desktop on MacosX. > } > } I heard about hiptop wich should allow to synchronize a Cli? TJ25 > with > } iCal and adress book. Can you help me to know a little bit more > about > } it? Is there a beta version of it that i could download and test? > > The Hiptop is a specific cell phone, like the Clie. It is, however, > unrelated to the Clie. You need a different product to deal with your > Clie. These are not the droids you are looking for. > > } Thanks. > } Michel Levy-Provencal | Tel: +336 60 48 28 38 | MSN/YHO: > mlevypro > --Greg > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list > missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html From sgruby at markspace.com Sun Mar 21 10:27:45 2004 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Sun Mar 21 10:31:41 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Looking for synchro between iCal and Cli? TJ25 In-Reply-To: <20040321180117.69458.qmail@web10402.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040321180117.69458.qmail@web10402.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <72C97FF0-7B65-11D8-9FBA-000393A57B52@markspace.com> For a list of all our Missing Sync products, please visit: . We have version of Missing Sync for: hiptop Sony CLIE Garmin iQue 3600 Samsung i330 Palm OS Each version is a different product and has a separate mailing list. You can sign up for the specific mailing list by visiting: This particular list is for Missing Sync for hiptop. On Mar 21, 2004, at 10:01 AM, Robert Browning wrote: > I am also looking for way to download to my Garmin iQ3600 GPS/PDA from > my imac.Thanks, Robert G. Browning > --- Gregory Seidman wrote: >> On Sun, Mar 21, 2004 at 12:11:29PM +0100, Michel Levy-Provencal >> wrote: >> } I am a new customer of Missing Sync. I am using it to synchronize >> My >> } Cli? TJ25 with Palm Desktop on MacosX. >> } >> } I heard about hiptop wich should allow to synchronize a Cli? TJ25 >> with >> } iCal and adress book. Can you help me to know a little bit more >> about >> } it? Is there a beta version of it that i could download and test? >> >> The Hiptop is a specific cell phone, like the Clie. It is, however, >> unrelated to the Clie. You need a different product to deal with your >> Clie. These are not the droids you are looking for. >> >> } Thanks. >> } Michel Levy-Provencal | Tel: +336 60 48 28 38 | MSN/YHO: >> mlevypro >> --Greg >> -- Scott Gruby Lead Engineer Mark/Space, Inc. From jon at schalliol.com Sun Mar 21 22:00:08 2004 From: jon at schalliol.com (Jonathan Schalliol) Date: Sun Mar 21 22:00:38 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Re: (Sean Graham) In-Reply-To: <200403211700.i2LH0OCN013796@penguin.markspace.com> References: <200403211700.i2LH0OCN013796@penguin.markspace.com> Message-ID: I agree and would indeed be interested if you have any evidence of this, as if it is true, I certainly won't reward that behavior by sending money to them.... I tend to believe what the M/S people have stated, even though I've heard some pretty nasty stuff about them from multiple sources. >Message: 1 >Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 18:05:37 -0500 >From: Sean Graham >Subject: Re: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] >To: "The Missing Sync (Mac/hiptop) Discussion List" > >Message-ID: <20040320230537.GB9978@csh.rit.edu> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > >On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 09:25:39AM -0700, Carl Houghton wrote: > >> So it is clear that they are delaying until they can >> get the PC sync working so as not to piss off the >> larger group. That stinks.. > >That's not clear at all, mostly because that isn't stated >anywhere. > >sean >-- >Sean M. Graham - grahams@csh.rit.edu >http://www.sean-graham.com/ From kfreeman at markspace.com Mon Mar 22 10:52:31 2004 From: kfreeman at markspace.com (Ken Freeman) Date: Mon Mar 22 10:52:29 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Looking for synchro between iCal and Cli? TJ25 In-Reply-To: <72C97FF0-7B65-11D8-9FBA-000393A57B52@markspace.com> References: <20040321180117.69458.qmail@web10402.mail.yahoo.com> <72C97FF0-7B65-11D8-9FBA-000393A57B52@markspace.com> Message-ID: <12ABE7F4-7C32-11D8-810D-000A9570181E@markspace.com> For those of you using a Palm OS handheld that want to sync with iCal and Address Book, after you purchase the Missing Sync and can then perform a HotSync operation you can download and use iSync and the iSync Palm Conduit available from Apple at www.apple.com/isync. For more information visit http://www.markspace.com/support/index.php? mode=view_entry&kbid=246&kbcat=15 Ken On Mar 21, 2004, at 10:27 AM, Scott Gruby wrote: > For a list of all our Missing Sync products, please visit: > . We have version of Missing > Sync for: > > hiptop > Sony CLIE > Garmin iQue 3600 > Samsung i330 > Palm OS > > Each version is a different product and has a separate mailing list. > You can sign up for the specific mailing list by visiting: > > > This particular list is for Missing Sync for hiptop. > > On Mar 21, 2004, at 10:01 AM, Robert Browning wrote: > >> I am also looking for way to download to my Garmin iQ3600 GPS/PDA from >> my imac.Thanks, Robert G. Browning >> --- Gregory Seidman wrote: >>> On Sun, Mar 21, 2004 at 12:11:29PM +0100, Michel Levy-Provencal >>> wrote: >>> } I am a new customer of Missing Sync. I am using it to synchronize >>> My >>> } Cli? TJ25 with Palm Desktop on MacosX. >>> } >>> } I heard about hiptop wich should allow to synchronize a Cli? TJ25 >>> with >>> } iCal and adress book. Can you help me to know a little bit more >>> about >>> } it? Is there a beta version of it that i could download and test? >>> >>> The Hiptop is a specific cell phone, like the Clie. It is, however, >>> unrelated to the Clie. You need a different product to deal with your >>> Clie. These are not the droids you are looking for. >>> >>> } Thanks. >>> } Michel Levy-Provencal | Tel: +336 60 48 28 38 | MSN/YHO: >>> mlevypro >>> --Greg >>> > > > -- > Scott Gruby > Lead Engineer > Mark/Space, Inc. > > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list > missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk > From mlevypro at ifrance.com Tue Mar 23 13:23:08 2004 From: mlevypro at ifrance.com (Michel Levy-Provencal) Date: Tue Mar 23 04:23:24 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Looking for synchro between iCal andCli? TJ25 In-Reply-To: <12ABE7F4-7C32-11D8-810D-000A9570181E@markspace.com> Message-ID: <200403231217.186e@b0506.idoo.com> Thanks, it works fine now. -----Message d'origine----- De?: missing-sync-hiptop-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com [mailto:missing-sync-hiptop-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com] De la part de Ken Freeman Envoy??: lundi 22 mars 2004 19:53 ??: The Missing Sync (Mac/hiptop) Discussion List Objet?: Re: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Looking for synchro between iCal andCli? TJ25 For those of you using a Palm OS handheld that want to sync with iCal and Address Book, after you purchase the Missing Sync and can then perform a HotSync operation you can download and use iSync and the iSync Palm Conduit available from Apple at www.apple.com/isync. For more information visit http://www.markspace.com/support/index.php? mode=view_entry&kbid=246&kbcat=15 Ken On Mar 21, 2004, at 10:27 AM, Scott Gruby wrote: > For a list of all our Missing Sync products, please visit: > . We have version of Missing > Sync for: > > hiptop > Sony CLIE > Garmin iQue 3600 > Samsung i330 > Palm OS > > Each version is a different product and has a separate mailing list. > You can sign up for the specific mailing list by visiting: > > > This particular list is for Missing Sync for hiptop. > > On Mar 21, 2004, at 10:01 AM, Robert Browning wrote: > >> I am also looking for way to download to my Garmin iQ3600 GPS/PDA from >> my imac.Thanks, Robert G. Browning >> --- Gregory Seidman wrote: >>> On Sun, Mar 21, 2004 at 12:11:29PM +0100, Michel Levy-Provencal >>> wrote: >>> } I am a new customer of Missing Sync. I am using it to synchronize >>> My >>> } Cli? TJ25 with Palm Desktop on MacosX. >>> } >>> } I heard about hiptop wich should allow to synchronize a Cli? TJ25 >>> with >>> } iCal and adress book. Can you help me to know a little bit more >>> about >>> } it? Is there a beta version of it that i could download and test? >>> >>> The Hiptop is a specific cell phone, like the Clie. It is, however, >>> unrelated to the Clie. You need a different product to deal with your >>> Clie. These are not the droids you are looking for. >>> >>> } Thanks. >>> } Michel Levy-Provencal | Tel: +336 60 48 28 38 | MSN/YHO: >>> mlevypro >>> --Greg >>> > > > -- > Scott Gruby > Lead Engineer > Mark/Space, Inc. > > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list > missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk > _______________________________________________ missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk ___[ Pub ]____________________________________________________________ Inscrivez-vous gratuitement sur Tandaime et gagnez un voyage ` Venise www.Tandaime.com/index.php?origine=4 Tandaime, et la vie vous sourit ! ___[ Pub ]____________________________________________________________ Inscrivez-vous gratuitement sur Tandaime et gagnez un voyage ? Venise www.Tandaime.com/index.php?origineJndaime, et la vie vous sourit ! From fryzinger at hotmail.com Mon Mar 1 02:26:27 2004 From: fryzinger at hotmail.com (Daniel Frysinger) Date: Thu Mar 25 23:00:35 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] FW: The results of your email commands Message-ID: Hi, I just received the update on my phone from T-Mobile... Does this mean we may receive the software soon? Thanks! ~Daniel _________________________________________________________________ Click, drag and drop. My MSN is the simple way to design your homepage. http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200364ave/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: "Daniel Frysinger" Subject: Now that the OTA Update is out? Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 02:23:24 -0700 Size: 1304 Url: http://lists.markspace.com/pipermail/missing-sync-hiptop-talk/attachments/20040301/7c710a00/attachment-0003.eml From kfreeman at markspace.com Mon Mar 1 09:54:41 2004 From: kfreeman at markspace.com (Ken Freeman) Date: Thu Mar 25 23:00:35 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] FW: The results of your email commands In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <83C7E85C-6BA9-11D8-8639-000A9570181E@markspace.com> The Over the Air update for your device is part of the picture. Other changes on the server side still need to be made to fully enable PIM sync. Thanks! Ken On Mar 1, 2004, at 1:26 AM, Daniel Frysinger wrote: > Hi, > > I just received the update on my phone from T-Mobile... > > Does this mean we may receive the software soon? > > Thanks! > ~Daniel > > _________________________________________________________________ > Click, drag and drop. My MSN is the simple way to design your > homepage. http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200364ave/direct/01/ > > From: "Daniel Frysinger" > Date: March 1, 2004 1:23:24 AM PST > To: missing-sync-hiptop-talk-request@lists.markspace.com > Subject: Now that the OTA Update is out? > > > Hi, > > I just received the update on my phone from T-Mobile... > > Any chance of releasing the software soon? > > Thanks! > ~Daniel > > _________________________________________________________________ > Say ?good-bye? to spam, viruses and pop-ups with MSN Premium -- free > trial offer! http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200359ave/direct/01/ > > > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list > missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk From fryzinger at hotmail.com Mon Mar 1 19:15:15 2004 From: fryzinger at hotmail.com (Daniel Frysinger) Date: Thu Mar 25 23:00:35 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] FW: The results of your email commands Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.markspace.com/pipermail/missing-sync-hiptop-talk/attachments/20040301/2c82ef27/attachment-0003.htm From Sandra.Frias at mtvstaff.com Tue Mar 2 10:21:14 2004 From: Sandra.Frias at mtvstaff.com (Frias, Sandra - MTVN) Date: Thu Mar 25 23:00:35 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] FW: The results of your email comm ands Message-ID: When are we getting the software to sync our sidekick with our MAC computers. The website said end of February. Any idea? > ---------- > From: missing-sync-hiptop-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com on > behalf of Daniel Frysinger > Reply To: The Missing Sync (Mac/hiptop) Discussion List > Sent: Monday, March 1, 2004 9:15 PM > To: missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com > Subject: Re: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] FW: The results of your email > commands > > <> > Got it, thanks > > ~Daniel > > > > >From: Ken Freeman > >Reply-To: "The Missing Sync (Mac/hiptop) Discussion List" > >To: "The Missing Sync (Mac/hiptop) Discussion List" > >Subject: Re: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] FW: The results of your email > commands > >Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 09:54:41 -0800 > > > >The Over the Air update for your device is part of the picture. > >Other changes on the server side still need to be made to fully > >enable PIM sync. > > > >Thanks! > >Ken > > > >On Mar 1, 2004, at 1:26 AM, Daniel Frysinger wrote: > > > >>Hi, > >> > >>I just received the update on my phone from T-Mobile... > >> > >>Does this mean we may receive the software soon? > >> > >>Thanks! > >>~Daniel > >> > >>_________________________________________________________________ > >>Click, drag and drop. My MSN is the simple way to design your > >>homepage. http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200364ave/direct/01/ > >> > >>From: "Daniel Frysinger" > >>Date: March 1, 2004 1:23:24 AM PST > >>To: missing-sync-hiptop-talk-request@lists.markspace.com > >>Subject: Now that the OTA Update is out? > >> > >> > >>Hi, > >> > >>I just received the update on my phone from T-Mobile... > >> > >>Any chance of releasing the software soon? > >> > >>Thanks! > >>~Daniel > >> > >>_________________________________________________________________ > >>Say "good-bye" to spam, viruses and pop-ups with MSN Premium -- > >>free trial offer! > >>http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200359ave/direct/01/ > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list > >>missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com > >>http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list > >missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com > >http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk > > _____ > > Store more e-mails with MSN Hotmail Extra Storage - 4 plans to choose > from! > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.markspace.com/pipermail/missing-sync-hiptop-talk/attachments/20040302/e32af793/attachment-0003.htm From sgruby at markspace.com Tue Mar 2 07:23:32 2004 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Thu Mar 25 23:00:35 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] FW: The results of your email comm ands In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <909E7D68-6C5D-11D8-A576-000393A57B52@markspace.com> On Mar 2, 2004, at 7:21 AM, Frias, Sandra - MTVN wrote: > When are we getting the software to sync our sidekick with our MAC > computers. The website said end of February. Any idea? > Please see the post from last week: for information on the current status. -- Scott Gruby Lead Engineer Mark/Space, Inc. From Sandra.Frias at mtvstaff.com Tue Mar 2 10:36:45 2004 From: Sandra.Frias at mtvstaff.com (Frias, Sandra - MTVN) Date: Thu Mar 25 23:00:35 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] FW: The results of your email comm ands Message-ID: Scott I couldn't open it or go to that website. Can you tell me the latest news. > ---------- > From: missing-sync-hiptop-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com on > behalf of Scott Gruby > Reply To: The Missing Sync (Mac/hiptop) Discussion List > Sent: Tuesday, March 2, 2004 10:23 AM > To: The Missing Sync (Mac/hiptop) Discussion List > Subject: Re: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] FW: The results of your email > comm ands > > > On Mar 2, 2004, at 7:21 AM, Frias, Sandra - MTVN wrote: > > > When are we getting the software to sync our sidekick with our MAC > > computers. The website said end of February. Any idea? > > > > Please see the post from last week: > February/000098.html> for information on the current status. > > > -- > Scott Gruby > Lead Engineer > Mark/Space, Inc. > > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list > missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.markspace.com/pipermail/missing-sync-hiptop-talk/attachments/20040302/80001913/attachment-0003.htm From sgruby at markspace.com Tue Mar 2 07:40:41 2004 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Thu Mar 25 23:00:35 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] FW: The results of your email comm ands In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mar 2, 2004, at 7:36 AM, Frias, Sandra - MTVN wrote: > Scott I couldn't open it or go to that website. Can you tell me the > latest > news. > "The Missing Sync for hiptop software has been completed and tested and awaits server changes being made by Danger and their carriers before it can be made available. Previous goals for these server changes suggested a targeted Missing Sync ship date in February 2004, but we have been notified that these server changes have not yet been completed. Unfortunately, the release date for the Missing Sync for hiptop will be delayed until Danger and their carriers have made the necessary preparations. Each Danger hiptop carrier will decide if and when they plan to support PIM synchronization. The first carrier to support synchronization will be T-Mobile, with the other hiptop carriers to possibly follow. We apologize for the inconvenience and will announce availability on the Missing Sync for hiptop email discussion list as new information is made available. Ken Freeman Mark/Space, Inc. Product Manager " -- Scott Gruby Lead Engineer Mark/Space, Inc. From Robin.Johnson at ft.com Wed Mar 3 14:40:15 2004 From: Robin.Johnson at ft.com (Robin.Johnson@ft.com) Date: Thu Mar 25 23:00:35 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] unsubscribe Message-ID: Robin Johnson Financial Times - 212 641 6480 CELL: 917 318 8713 robin88@att.net FAX: 212 641 6481 ----- Forwarded by Robin Johnson/NEW YORK/FINANCIAL TIMES on 03/03/04 02:42 PM ----- "Daniel Frysinger" Sent by: missing-sync-hiptop-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com 03/01/04 09:15 PM Please respond to "The Missing Sync \(Mac/hiptop\) Discussion List" < To: missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com< cc: Subject: Re: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] FW: The results of your email commands Got it, thanks ~Daniel >From: Ken Freeman >Reply-To: "The Missing Sync (Mac/hiptop) Discussion List" >To: "The Missing Sync (Mac/hiptop) Discussion List" >Subject: Re: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] FW: The results of your email commands >Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 09:54:41 -0800 > >The Over the Air update for your device is part of the picture. >Other changes on the server side still need to be made to fully >enable PIM sync. > >Thanks! >Ken > >On Mar 1, 2004, at 1:26 AM, Daniel Frysinger wrote: > >>Hi, >> >>I just received the update on my phone from T-Mobile... >> >>Does this mean we may receive the software soon? >> >>Thanks! >>~Daniel >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>Click, drag and drop. My MSN is the simple way to design your >>homepage. http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200364ave/direct/01/ >> >>From: "Daniel Frysinger" >>Date: March 1, 2004 1:23:24 AM PST >>To: missing-sync-hiptop-talk-request@lists.markspace.com >>Subject: Now that the OTA Update is out? >> >> >>Hi, >> >>I just received the update on my phone from T-Mobile... >> >>Any chance of releasing the software soon? >> >>Thanks! >>~Daniel >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>Say ?good-bye? to spam, viruses and pop-ups with MSN Premium -- >>free trial offer! >>http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200359ave/direct/01/ >> >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list >>missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com >>http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk > > >_______________________________________________ >missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list >missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com >http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk Store more e-mails with MSN Hotmail Extra Storage ? 4 plans to choose from! _______________________________________________ missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk ********************************************************************************** This email may contain confidential material. 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Thanks. > > Howard > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list > missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk > From wilcox at unm.edu Tue Mar 16 08:19:02 2004 From: wilcox at unm.edu (Sherman Wilcox) Date: Thu Mar 25 23:00:35 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Tmobile? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040316151902.14346@smtp.comcast.net> Is T-Mobile (and the other carriers) ever going to get geared up to permit us to give our money to Mark/Space? I'd love to do the latter. I'm getting pretty fed up with the former. ;-) -- Sherman From Sandra.Frias at mtvstaff.com Tue Mar 16 10:46:03 2004 From: Sandra.Frias at mtvstaff.com (Frias, Sandra - MTVN) Date: Thu Mar 25 23:00:35 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Tmobile? Message-ID: I'm with you Sherman. I called T-Mobile last night and asked someone from their Wireless Data Group about the Missing Sync and they had no idea what I was talking about. I thought T-Mobile knew about it? Why is Mark/Space giving us the wrong information. I spoke to someone at Danger, Inc. and they said they have no information regarding the Missing Sync. Can't we just buy it from Mark/Space? Why do we need to wait for T-Mobile and Danger? > ---------- > From: Sherman Wilcox > Reply To: The Missing Sync (Mac/hiptop) Discussion List > Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 10:19 AM > To: The Missing Sync (Mac/hiptop) Discussion List > Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Tmobile? > > Is T-Mobile (and the other carriers) ever going to get geared up to > permit us to give our money to Mark/Space? I'd love to do the latter. I'm > getting pretty fed up with the former. > > ;-) > -- > Sherman > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list > missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.markspace.com/pipermail/missing-sync-hiptop-talk/attachments/20040316/2d23a33d/attachment-0003.htm From gss+hipsync at cs.brown.edu Tue Mar 16 11:03:01 2004 From: gss+hipsync at cs.brown.edu (Gregory Seidman) Date: Thu Mar 25 23:00:35 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Tmobile? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040316160301.GA29817@cs.brown.edu> On Tue, Mar 16, 2004 at 10:46:03AM -0500, Frias, Sandra - MTVN wrote: } I'm with you Sherman. I called T-Mobile last night and asked someone from } their Wireless Data Group about the Missing Sync and they had no idea what I } was talking about. I thought T-Mobile knew about it? Why is Mark/Space } giving us the wrong information. I spoke to someone at Danger, Inc. and } they said they have no information regarding the Missing Sync. Can't we } just buy it from Mark/Space? Why do we need to wait for T-Mobile and } Danger? My understanding is that a variety of services, including purchasing items in the Catalog and PIM synchronization, are waiting for Danger and the various carriers to get their billing systems integrated. It looks like a lot of neat stuff which might cost money, at the discretion of the carrier or Danger, cannot be made available to consumers until the appropriate parties can be billed/paid automatically. This does not mean that Danger or your carrier will necessarily bill you for synchronization services, but billing has to be possible for the service to be rolled out. --Greg From wilcox at unm.edu Tue Mar 16 09:05:17 2004 From: wilcox at unm.edu (Sherman Wilcox) Date: Thu Mar 25 23:00:35 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Tmobile? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040316160517.17946@smtp.comcast.net> Frias, said: >Why is Mark/Space giving us the wrong information. I really don't think M/S is giving us wrong information! And I'm not surprised that the people who answer the phones at TMOB don't have a clue. -- Sherman From Sandra.Frias at mtvstaff.com Tue Mar 16 11:08:22 2004 From: Sandra.Frias at mtvstaff.com (Frias, Sandra - MTVN) Date: Thu Mar 25 23:00:35 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Tmobile? Message-ID: But why doesn't Danger have a clue? > ---------- > From: Sherman Wilcox > Reply To: The Missing Sync (Mac/hiptop) Discussion List > Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 11:05 AM > To: The Missing Sync (Mac/hiptop) Discussion List > Subject: RE: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Tmobile? > > Frias, said: > > >Why is Mark/Space giving us the wrong information. > > I really don't think M/S is giving us wrong information! And I'm not > surprised that the people who answer the phones at TMOB don't have a clue. > > -- > Sherman > > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list > missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.markspace.com/pipermail/missing-sync-hiptop-talk/attachments/20040316/75e6525f/attachment-0003.htm From wilcox at unm.edu Tue Mar 16 09:14:09 2004 From: wilcox at unm.edu (Sherman Wilcox) Date: Thu Mar 25 23:00:35 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Tmobile? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040316161409.20502@smtp.comcast.net> Frias, said: >But why doesn't Danger have a clue? Well, it's still phone-droids that we're talking to when we call Danger. But it sure seems to me that Danger and TMO are in a 'blame each other' game. I have a friend who's gone through 7 or so busted SideKicks, and the whole refurb fiasco. She gets nothing but the runaround from both parties. I want to reiterate: I've heard nothing but the highest praise from people who use Mark/Space products. A colleague of mine has a Clie and *loves* Missing Sync. If Danger/TMO ever get their act together, I'll buy Missing Sync. If not, I'll be looking at switching to something else (probably a Treo). Either way, I gladly give my money to Mark/Space. -- Sherman From Robin.Johnson at ft.com Tue Mar 16 11:45:22 2004 From: Robin.Johnson at ft.com (Robin.Johnson@ft.com) Date: Thu Mar 25 23:00:35 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] unsubscribe In-Reply-To: <20040316161409.20502@smtp.comcast.net> Message-ID: Robin Johnson Financial Times - 212 641 6480 CELL: 917 318 8713 robin88@att.net FAX: 212 641 6481 "Sherman Wilcox" Sent by: missing-sync-hiptop-talk-bounces@lists.markspace.com 03/16/04 11:14 AM Please respond to "The Missing Sync \(Mac/hiptop\) Discussion List" < To: "The Missing Sync (Mac/hiptop) Discussion List" < cc: Subject: RE: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Tmobile? Frias, said: >But why doesn't Danger have a clue? Well, it's still phone-droids that we're talking to when we call Danger. But it sure seems to me that Danger and TMO are in a 'blame each other' game. I have a friend who's gone through 7 or so busted SideKicks, and the whole refurb fiasco. She gets nothing but the runaround from both parties. I want to reiterate: I've heard nothing but the highest praise from people who use Mark/Space products. A colleague of mine has a Clie and *loves* Missing Sync. If Danger/TMO ever get their act together, I'll buy Missing Sync. If not, I'll be looking at switching to something else (probably a Treo). Either way, I gladly give my money to Mark/Space. -- Sherman _______________________________________________ missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk ********************************************************************************** This email may contain confidential material. If you were not an intended recipient, please notify the sender and delete all copies. We may monitor email to and from our network. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.markspace.com/pipermail/missing-sync-hiptop-talk/attachments/20040316/625f8bb2/attachment-0003.htm From jon at schalliol.com Tue Mar 16 09:16:45 2004 From: jon at schalliol.com (Jonathan Schalliol) Date: Thu Mar 25 23:00:35 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] RE: Tmobile? In-Reply-To: <200403161703.i2GH31CN000928@penguin.markspace.com> References: <200403161703.i2GH31CN000928@penguin.markspace.com> Message-ID: If M/S hadn't jumped the gun on the announcement date, people wouldn't be complaining about T-Mobile & Danger as we are. Given that M/S set up this list, perhaps they could give us a weekly update on that progress or something to that effect. We don't have a heck of a lot ot discuss without the software! From gss+hipsync at cs.brown.edu Tue Mar 16 13:44:33 2004 From: gss+hipsync at cs.brown.edu (Gregory Seidman) Date: Thu Mar 25 23:00:35 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] RE: Tmobile? In-Reply-To: References: <200403161703.i2GH31CN000928@penguin.markspace.com> Message-ID: <20040316184433.GA2136@cs.brown.edu> On Tue, Mar 16, 2004 at 09:16:45AM -0800, Jonathan Schalliol wrote: } If M/S hadn't jumped the gun on the announcement date, people } wouldn't be complaining about T-Mobile & Danger as we are. Given } that M/S set up this list, perhaps they could give us a weekly update } on that progress or something to that effect. We don't have a heck } of a lot ot discuss without the software! I wouldn't be too hard on Mark/Space. They were given assurances by the parties involved (Danger and carriers) that things would be ready by the end of the month (February being the month in question). I'm guessing they didn't get it in writing, because otherwise there'd be some legal proceedings afoot. Anyhow Danger and/or the carriers guessed wrong on when the backend would be ready, so Mark/Space is left in an uncomfortable position. Until Danger and the carriers get their ducks in a row, we get nothing and there is nothing Mark/Space can do about it. --Greg From wms3 at wms3.com Tue Mar 16 13:46:45 2004 From: wms3 at wms3.com (Wilbur M. Sims III) Date: Thu Mar 25 23:00:35 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] The natives are restless... In-Reply-To: References: <200403161703.i2GH31CN000928@penguin.markspace.com> Message-ID: <4631A06A-777A-11D8-BF73-000A95C70738@wms3.com> This originally went to the Danger's Hiptop forums... --begin Really I felt like I could see this coming as the end of the month got closer and closer and the mailing list had no new release date information... anyway... from the horses mouth... [snip the original delay announcement] I'm not sure what they are appologizing for really as it would seem that some sort of agreement was made somewhere that the web servers would be ready by the end of February -- obviously this didn't come to pass. So either Mark/Space made a release date they had no business making -- or "Danger and their carriers" dropped the ball and screwed us all who thought this was "going to be the week". Its funny... I work on a network of more than 10,000 users. And yes, we do occasionally miss deadlines. But I can't think of a single instance in which we were going to miss a deadline where we couldn't give the users more than a weeks notice and a detailed account as to why we were going to miss it. Consumers have just become occustomed to taking it in the rear. Mark/Space and crew -- I for one appreciate your willingness to at least let us know why this occurred. Hope this isn't how things will progress for all other third party developers working with Danger and their carriers moving forward. --end And after waiting yet another two weeks, my frustration point has begun to reach its limit. So the following just went off to their forums... --begin Subject: Danger... Please Respond... In one form or another I am not only a customer of your product, but also an ambassador of your product. While I know our relationship is not the conventional one to one customer relationship, you do still profit or lose potential profits due to my ambassadorship of your product. Therefore I feel entitled to an answer regarding the following question, which many other than myself have been asking you for over a year (though with much more fervor of late due to the recent Mark/Space announcement): When will the application interface for PIMs be finished on your servers? Mark/Space was obviously led to believe that this would be completed by the end of February. Thousands of other Hiptop owners were lead to believe they would have synchronization abilities over a year ago. But now we, your customers and ambassadors, know a product is ready and waiting on you and whatever deal you have with TMobile (a part owner of Danger). So, on what date will your servers be ready? Calls to Danger net no information. Calls to TMobile net no information. Mark/Space has no new information to add. So I beseech you, give me a date so that I may set my expectations of your product accordingly. [As an aside to any possible Danger Fanboiis to whom this letter is not addressed, I present the following analogy. What Danger/TMO are doing is akin to your local telephone company (assuming you have competing phone companies in your area) doing the following: "Voicemail is coming to your telephone soon!" (six months pass) "Our partners are working on voicemail solutions now!" (six months pass) Phone Company Partner: "Announcing Voicemail for your telephone! Coming soon!" (six months pass) Phone Company Partner: "Well, we have the voicemail system ready to go, we just need the phone company to give us access to their facilities." -- Its not a perfect analogy, but it works well enough.] --end -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 3480 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.markspace.com/pipermail/missing-sync-hiptop-talk/attachments/20040316/5d022db7/attachment-0003.bin From jon at schalliol.com Wed Mar 17 09:11:28 2004 From: jon at schalliol.com (Jonathan Schalliol) Date: Thu Mar 25 23:00:35 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Re: TMobile In-Reply-To: <200403171703.i2HH3gCN015412@penguin.markspace.com> References: <200403171703.i2HH3gCN015412@penguin.markspace.com> Message-ID: I wasn't blaming M/S, rather saying that everyone was so "YAY!!! Sync this month!!! The world is great!!" ...but then when it didn't happen all these other complaints came up. Meaning, people shouldn't complain so much about all these parties because 2 weeks ago everything generally seemed ok. From chrisrodney at sympatico.ca Sat Mar 20 10:09:22 2004 From: chrisrodney at sympatico.ca (Chris Rodney) Date: Thu Mar 25 23:00:35 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Message-ID: <9174CD26-7A80-11D8-B267-000A95B96DCA@sympatico.ca> I'm a hiptop (SideKick) customer in Toronto, Ontario, Canada. I contacted Fido (Microcell Solutions) to find out when (or if) they will support the Missing Sync tool. Here are their responses, along with my original message (newest message at the top). Chris Rodney | E-Mail: chrisrodney@sympatico.ca | Tel: 416-834-0298 | AIM/iChat/MSN: chrisrodney > From: "Web, Message" > Date: March 16, 2004 2:20:00 PM EST > To: "'chrisrodney@sympatico.ca'" > Subject: FIDO > > Dear Mr. Rodney, > > We would like to thank you for visiting our Fido web site. > > We would like to apologize for the delay in responding to your inquiry > as > your e-mail was sent to our technical department for an accurate > response. > > This is a 3rd party software. www.markspace.com would be the one > supporting > it as it developed it. Therefore, it is now up to the Carriers (Fido) > to > determine if they are going to offer or approve the use of this > software or > not. At this time, T-Mobile (US carrier) will be the first one to do > so (PC > solution still under test mode). Eventually, after T-Mobile's lunch, > other > Carriers should follow, including Fido. No release date has been > announced. > > For more information, Fido customer service representatives are > available by > phone at 1-888-481-3436, from 8 AM to 9 PM on weekdays, and from 9 AM > to 5 > PM on weekends. > > We are always pleased to assist you. > > Sincerely, > > Brigitte > Your Fido Internet Consultant > > Long-distance rates: > Fido has the lowest long-distance rate in North America: 0.10$ per > minute, > anytime, for calls within Canada and to the U.S. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Contact via Fido.ca [mailto:message.web@microcell.ca] > Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 2:33 PM > To: message.web@microcell.ca > Subject: Fido subscriber - - 416-8340298 > > > - User: Christopher Rodney > - English user > - Reply Requested! > - Question : > I'm a hiptop user (it's great), but I'm disappointed at the lack of a > true > software solution to sync it to my computer. That's why I was excited > when > the Missing Sync for HipTop was announced for the Mac > (http://www.markspace.com/hiptop.html). The developer says that the > software > is done but carriers need to make the decision to support it. So, will > Fido > be supporting Missing Sync? > > Quite frankly, I was ready to trade my hiptop in for a Blackberry or a > Palm > Tungsten W from Rogers until I heard about Missing Sync, and decided to > stick with the hiptop until it is released. It seems ideal for my > needs and > based on the posts in several online forums, it would seem that several > other Hiptop & Mac Users are looking forward to it. If you are not > going to > be supporting it, please let me know so that I can make other decisions > about phones and carriers. If you are going to support it and need > users to > test it with their hiptop, sign me up! > > Thanks! > > > Chris > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 3521 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.markspace.com/pipermail/missing-sync-hiptop-talk/attachments/20040320/53679899/attachment-0002.bin From newamiga at mac.com Sat Mar 20 09:25:39 2004 From: newamiga at mac.com (Carl Houghton) Date: Thu Mar 25 23:00:35 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] In-Reply-To: <9174CD26-7A80-11D8-B267-000A95B96DCA@sympatico.ca> References: <9174CD26-7A80-11D8-B267-000A95B96DCA@sympatico.ca> Message-ID: <3A1DE065-7A8B-11D8-B18E-000A95B33AB4@mac.com> So it is clear that they are delaying until they can get the PC sync working so as not to piss off the larger group. That stinks.. On Mar 20, 2004, at 8:09 AM, Chris Rodney wrote: > I'm a hiptop (SideKick) customer in Toronto, Ontario, Canada. I > contacted Fido (Microcell Solutions) to find out when (or if) they > will support the Missing Sync tool. Here are their responses, along > with my original message (newest message at the top). > > Chris Rodney | E-Mail: chrisrodney@sympatico.ca | Tel: > 416-834-0298 | AIM/iChat/MSN: chrisrodney > > >> From: "Web, Message" >> Date: March 16, 2004 2:20:00 PM EST >> To: "'chrisrodney@sympatico.ca'" >> Subject: FIDO >> >> Dear Mr. Rodney, >> >> We would like to thank you for visiting our Fido web site. >> >> We would like to apologize for the delay in responding to your >> inquiry as >> your e-mail was sent to our technical department for an accurate >> response. >> >> This is a 3rd party software. www.markspace.com would be the one >> supporting >> it as it developed it. Therefore, it is now up to the Carriers (Fido) >> to >> determine if they are going to offer or approve the use of this >> software or >> not. At this time, T-Mobile (US carrier) will be the first one to do >> so (PC >> solution still under test mode). Eventually, after T-Mobile's lunch, >> other >> Carriers should follow, including Fido. No release date has been >> announced. >> >> For more information, Fido customer service representatives are >> available by >> phone at 1-888-481-3436, from 8 AM to 9 PM on weekdays, and from 9 AM >> to 5 >> PM on weekends. >> >> We are always pleased to assist you. >> >> Sincerely, >> >> Brigitte >> Your Fido Internet Consultant >> >> Long-distance rates: >> Fido has the lowest long-distance rate in North America: 0.10$ per >> minute, >> anytime, for calls within Canada and to the U.S. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Contact via Fido.ca [mailto:message.web@microcell.ca] >> Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 2:33 PM >> To: message.web@microcell.ca >> Subject: Fido subscriber - - 416-8340298 >> >> >> - User: Christopher Rodney >> - English user >> - Reply Requested! >> - Question : >> I'm a hiptop user (it's great), but I'm disappointed at the lack of a >> true >> software solution to sync it to my computer. That's why I was excited >> when >> the Missing Sync for HipTop was announced for the Mac >> (http://www.markspace.com/hiptop.html). The developer says that the >> software >> is done but carriers need to make the decision to support it. So, >> will Fido >> be supporting Missing Sync? >> >> Quite frankly, I was ready to trade my hiptop in for a Blackberry or >> a Palm >> Tungsten W from Rogers until I heard about Missing Sync, and decided >> to >> stick with the hiptop until it is released. It seems ideal for my >> needs and >> based on the posts in several online forums, it would seem that >> several >> other Hiptop & Mac Users are looking forward to it. If you are not >> going to >> be supporting it, please let me know so that I can make other >> decisions >> about phones and carriers. If you are going to support it and need >> users to >> test it with their hiptop, sign me up! >> >> Thanks! >> >> >> Chris >> > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list > missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 3832 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.markspace.com/pipermail/missing-sync-hiptop-talk/attachments/20040320/b2e8db98/attachment-0002.bin From missingsync at sean-graham.com Sat Mar 20 18:05:37 2004 From: missingsync at sean-graham.com (Sean Graham) Date: Thu Mar 25 23:00:35 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] In-Reply-To: <3A1DE065-7A8B-11D8-B18E-000A95B33AB4@mac.com> References: <9174CD26-7A80-11D8-B267-000A95B96DCA@sympatico.ca> <3A1DE065-7A8B-11D8-B18E-000A95B33AB4@mac.com> Message-ID: <20040320230537.GB9978@csh.rit.edu> On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 09:25:39AM -0700, Carl Houghton wrote: > So it is clear that they are delaying until they can > get the PC sync working so as not to piss off the > larger group. That stinks.. That's not clear at all, mostly because that isn't stated anywhere. sean -- Sean M. Graham - grahams@csh.rit.edu http://www.sean-graham.com/ From mlevypro at ifrance.com Sun Mar 21 12:11:29 2004 From: mlevypro at ifrance.com (Michel Levy-Provencal) Date: Thu Mar 25 23:00:35 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] =?iso-8859-1?q?Looking_for_synchro_between_iCal_and_Cli=E9_TJ25?= In-Reply-To: <9174CD26-7A80-11D8-B267-000A95B96DCA@sympatico.ca> References: <9174CD26-7A80-11D8-B267-000A95B96DCA@sympatico.ca> Message-ID: <8093BFE5-7B28-11D8-A0CC-000A95DABC5E@ifrance.com> Hello, I am a new customer of Missing Sync. I am using it to synchronize My Cli? TJ25 with Palm Desktop on MacosX. I heard about hiptop wich should allow to synchronize a Cli? TJ25 with iCal and adress book. Can you help me to know a little bit more about it? Is there a beta version of it that i could download and test? Thanks. Michel Levy-Provencal | Tel: +336 60 48 28 38 | MSN/YHO: mlevypro -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Is there a beta version of it that i could download and test? The Hiptop is a specific cell phone, like the Clie. It is, however, unrelated to the Clie. You need a different product to deal with your Clie. These are not the droids you are looking for. } Thanks. } Michel Levy-Provencal | Tel: +336 60 48 28 38 | MSN/YHO: mlevypro --Greg From rgbrowning at yahoo.com Sun Mar 21 10:01:17 2004 From: rgbrowning at yahoo.com (Robert Browning) Date: Thu Mar 25 23:00:35 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Looking for synchro between iCal and Cli? TJ25 In-Reply-To: <20040321165200.GA16134@cs.brown.edu> Message-ID: <20040321180117.69458.qmail@web10402.mail.yahoo.com> I am also looking for way to download to my Garmin iQ3600 GPS/PDA from my imac.Thanks, Robert G. Browning --- Gregory Seidman wrote: > On Sun, Mar 21, 2004 at 12:11:29PM +0100, Michel Levy-Provencal > wrote: > } I am a new customer of Missing Sync. I am using it to synchronize > My > } Cli? TJ25 with Palm Desktop on MacosX. > } > } I heard about hiptop wich should allow to synchronize a Cli? TJ25 > with > } iCal and adress book. Can you help me to know a little bit more > about > } it? Is there a beta version of it that i could download and test? > > The Hiptop is a specific cell phone, like the Clie. It is, however, > unrelated to the Clie. You need a different product to deal with your > Clie. These are not the droids you are looking for. > > } Thanks. > } Michel Levy-Provencal | Tel: +336 60 48 28 38 | MSN/YHO: > mlevypro > --Greg > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list > missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html From sgruby at markspace.com Sun Mar 21 10:27:45 2004 From: sgruby at markspace.com (Scott Gruby) Date: Thu Mar 25 23:00:35 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Looking for synchro between iCal and Cli? TJ25 In-Reply-To: <20040321180117.69458.qmail@web10402.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040321180117.69458.qmail@web10402.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <72C97FF0-7B65-11D8-9FBA-000393A57B52@markspace.com> For a list of all our Missing Sync products, please visit: . We have version of Missing Sync for: hiptop Sony CLIE Garmin iQue 3600 Samsung i330 Palm OS Each version is a different product and has a separate mailing list. You can sign up for the specific mailing list by visiting: This particular list is for Missing Sync for hiptop. On Mar 21, 2004, at 10:01 AM, Robert Browning wrote: > I am also looking for way to download to my Garmin iQ3600 GPS/PDA from > my imac.Thanks, Robert G. Browning > --- Gregory Seidman wrote: >> On Sun, Mar 21, 2004 at 12:11:29PM +0100, Michel Levy-Provencal >> wrote: >> } I am a new customer of Missing Sync. I am using it to synchronize >> My >> } Cli? TJ25 with Palm Desktop on MacosX. >> } >> } I heard about hiptop wich should allow to synchronize a Cli? TJ25 >> with >> } iCal and adress book. Can you help me to know a little bit more >> about >> } it? Is there a beta version of it that i could download and test? >> >> The Hiptop is a specific cell phone, like the Clie. It is, however, >> unrelated to the Clie. You need a different product to deal with your >> Clie. These are not the droids you are looking for. >> >> } Thanks. >> } Michel Levy-Provencal | Tel: +336 60 48 28 38 | MSN/YHO: >> mlevypro >> --Greg >> -- Scott Gruby Lead Engineer Mark/Space, Inc. From jon at schalliol.com Sun Mar 21 22:00:08 2004 From: jon at schalliol.com (Jonathan Schalliol) Date: Thu Mar 25 23:00:35 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Re: (Sean Graham) In-Reply-To: <200403211700.i2LH0OCN013796@penguin.markspace.com> References: <200403211700.i2LH0OCN013796@penguin.markspace.com> Message-ID: I agree and would indeed be interested if you have any evidence of this, as if it is true, I certainly won't reward that behavior by sending money to them.... I tend to believe what the M/S people have stated, even though I've heard some pretty nasty stuff about them from multiple sources. >Message: 1 >Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 18:05:37 -0500 >From: Sean Graham >Subject: Re: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] >To: "The Missing Sync (Mac/hiptop) Discussion List" > >Message-ID: <20040320230537.GB9978@csh.rit.edu> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > >On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 09:25:39AM -0700, Carl Houghton wrote: > >> So it is clear that they are delaying until they can >> get the PC sync working so as not to piss off the >> larger group. That stinks.. > >That's not clear at all, mostly because that isn't stated >anywhere. > >sean >-- >Sean M. Graham - grahams@csh.rit.edu >http://www.sean-graham.com/ From kfreeman at markspace.com Mon Mar 22 10:52:31 2004 From: kfreeman at markspace.com (Ken Freeman) Date: Thu Mar 25 23:00:35 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Looking for synchro between iCal and Cli? TJ25 In-Reply-To: <72C97FF0-7B65-11D8-9FBA-000393A57B52@markspace.com> References: <20040321180117.69458.qmail@web10402.mail.yahoo.com> <72C97FF0-7B65-11D8-9FBA-000393A57B52@markspace.com> Message-ID: <12ABE7F4-7C32-11D8-810D-000A9570181E@markspace.com> For those of you using a Palm OS handheld that want to sync with iCal and Address Book, after you purchase the Missing Sync and can then perform a HotSync operation you can download and use iSync and the iSync Palm Conduit available from Apple at www.apple.com/isync. For more information visit http://www.markspace.com/support/index.php? mode=view_entry&kbid=246&kbcat=15 Ken On Mar 21, 2004, at 10:27 AM, Scott Gruby wrote: > For a list of all our Missing Sync products, please visit: > . We have version of Missing > Sync for: > > hiptop > Sony CLIE > Garmi