[missing-sync-hiptop-talk] (sigh)

Sohail Mamdani sohailm01 at mac.com
Fri Jun 4 17:54:00 PDT 2004 

You know what? I bloody agree.

So I'm putting out an open call. Can we get an online petition going? 
Can someone host an online letter where all Mac users can affix their 
signature, demanding that T-Mobile get cracking on this? Because I 
guarantee you, every Mac news site on the web will publish a blurb 
about it, as will a series of blogs and other sites.

So, who's gonna do it? Anyone?

I'd do it myself, but I'm not a web designer by trade (not exactly, 
anyway). If no one picks up the ball, however, I'll put it together and 
host it myself, damnit! I want my Sidekick Sync!

Sohail Mamdani

On Jun 4, 2004, at 4:13 PM, Dave Arias wrote:

> Well, you know the worst part of all of this is...
>
> We as Mac users are often passed over by software developers and 
> companies
> for things that are seemingly trivial. My most recent example? I warn 
> you...
> it's trivial...
>
> Command & Conquer : Generals / MAC by Aspyr.
>
> It -finally- comes out, two months late. I'm ready to purchase it, but 
> it
> doesn't network play with Windows clients. That's what we get for the 
> choice
> of DirectPlay for a network stack (which consistently desynchronizes 
> during
> games and causes problems).
>
> But as a Mac lover, and a PC user... and a hard-core tech who 
> understands
> the underlying reasons for things... it's a killer, but I'm used to it.
>
> But we aren't the only ones being hit by Danger / T-Mobile's inability 
> to
> either release the sync solution or open their servers up for someone 
> to
> sync to. It's -everyone- who has invested in a Hiptop. Except those 
> over at
> C&W that is...
>
> It's so frustrating. I enter all this data into the Hiptop because it's
> easy, and it's backed up in case something happens. But I can't see it 
> on a
> computer in any regular calendaring application.
>
> So I have three different calendars; Hiptop, GroupWise, and Exchange.
> For me, all I need is T-Mobile to approve synching, and it -all- goes 
> away,
> on the Mac and the PC platforms. I get one calendar, things work, and 
> about
> fifty people I personally know and work with will purchase the third
> generation Hiptop when it comes out. They're drooling over it. They've 
> seen
> my second generation Hiptop, they've seen me absolutely love it... and
> they've seen me swear when I have to manually translate calendar 
> entries
> from one to another.
>
> Everything I've said above has been said before by PC and Mac users 
> alike.
> T-Mobile and Danger are shooting themselves in the foot, etc...
>
> But we aren't the only ones being shut down. Missing Sync is ready,
> Markspace has stated that they're ready. So... why not attach 
> ourselves to
> some other forums and boards and get something -significant- going? On 
> the
> scale of... 10,000 requests to T-mobile from CURRENT subscribers 
> stating
> that we -need- this. That we -want- this. That each of us know tens of
> people that want a SideKick for business, but will love it for home 
> use.
>
> We must appeal to their business interests. I'm not posing that we 
> threaten
> to drop service. There are contracts, and for me... the Hiptop kicks 
> too
> much ass.
>
> But there is SO MUCH BUSINESS out there they could have. Nextel's 
> killer app
> was their direct connect. Now there's Push To Talk by Verizon. 
> Businesses
> are beginning to realize there's competition, and managers are 
> beginning to
> realize that having a loud and obnoxious walkie talkie may not be the 
> best
> way to go about communicating. It's much less annoying (and more
> informative) to receive an e-mail silently during a meeting than get a
> direct connect request. We all know e-mail on any other cell phone just
> doesn't cut it either. Scrolling 50 times to read 5 sentences is
> unacceptable. Businesses want this. My particular business wants this.
>
> I only speak for myself. But how the Danger / T-mobile situation plays 
> out
> may decide whether an entire business decides to go T-Mobile... or not.
>
> --Dave
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Well, you know the worst part of all of this is...
>
> We as Mac users are often passed over by software developers and 
> companies
> for things that are seemingly trivial. My most recent example? I warn 
> you...
> it's trivial...
>
> Command & Conquer : Generals / MAC by Aspyr.
>
> It -finally- comes out, two months late. I'm ready to purchase it, but 
> it
> doesn't network play with Windows clients. That's what we get for the 
> choice
> of DirectPlay for a network stack (which consistently desynchronizes 
> during
> games and causes problems).
>
> But as a Mac lover, and a PC user... and a hard-core tech who 
> understands
> the underlying reasons for things... it's a killer, but I'm used to it.
>
> But we aren't the only ones being hit by Danger / T-Mobile's inability 
> to
> either release the sync solution or open their servers up for someone 
> to
> sync to. It's -everyone- who has invested in a Hiptop. Except those 
> over at
> C&W that is...
>
> It's so frustrating. I enter all this data into the Hiptop because it's
> easy, and it's backed up in case something happens. But I can't see it 
> on a
> computer in any regular calendaring application.
>
> So I have three different calendars; Hiptop, GroupWise, and Exchange.
> For me, all I need is T-Mobile to approve synching, and it -all- goes 
> away,
> on the Mac and the PC platforms. I get one calendar, things work, and 
> about
> fifty people I personally know and work with will purchase the third
> generation Hiptop when it comes out. They're drooling over it. They've 
> seen
> my second generation Hiptop, they've seen me absolutely love it... and
> they've seen me swear when I have to manually translate calendar 
> entries
> from one to another.
>
> Everything I've said above has been said before by PC and Mac users 
> alike.
> T-Mobile and Danger are shooting themselves in the foot, etc...
>
> But we aren't the only ones being shut down. Missing Sync is ready,
> Markspace has stated that they're ready. So... why not attach 
> ourselves to
> some other forums and boards and get something -significant- going? On 
> the
> scale of... 10,000 requests to T-mobile from CURRENT subscribers 
> stating
> that we -need- this. That we -want- this. That each of us know tens of
> people that want a SideKick for business, but will love it for home 
> use.
>
> We must appeal to their business interests. I'm not posing that we 
> threaten
> to drop service. There are contracts, and for me... the Hiptop kicks 
> too
> much ass.
>
> But there is SO MUCH BUSINESS out there they could have. Nextel's 
> killer app
> was their direct connect. Now there's Push To Talk by Verizon. 
> Businesses
> are beginning to realize there's competition, and managers are 
> beginning to
> realize that having a loud and obnoxious walkie talkie may not be the 
> best
> way to go about communicating. It's much less annoying (and more
> informative) to receive an e-mail silently during a meeting than get a
> direct connect request. We all know e-mail on any other cell phone just
> doesn't cut it either. Scrolling 50 times to read 5 sentences is
> unacceptable. Businesses want this. My particular business wants this.
>
> I only speak for myself. But how the Danger / T-mobile situation plays 
> out
> may decide whether an entire business decides to go T-Mobile... or not.
>
> --Dave
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: missing-sync-hiptop-talk-bounces at lists.markspace.com
> [mailto:missing-sync-hiptop-talk-bounces at lists.markspace.com] On 
> Behalf Of
> paul oberman
> Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 1:48 AM
> To: The Missing Sync (Mac/hiptop) Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] voq
>
> if i have my way, i will have one as soon as i can squirrel the money
> together.  15 months of waiting for hiptop has pissed me off.
>
>
> On Jun 3, 2004, at 11:36 PM, Brian Hall wrote:
>
>> At 11:32 PM -0700 6/3/04, paul oberman wrote:
>>> it is a shame that our biggest hope isif I a microsoft based product.
>>>  can
>>> you guys at markspace support the VOQ.com phone?
>>
>> At their web site it says it runs Windows Mobile. Which means it 
>> should
>> work with our current release of Missing Sync for Pocket PC, but we
>> haven't
>> seen one yet to be able to test it.
>>
>> Brian
>>
>> -- 
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