From jon at schalliol.com Thu Jul 29 16:52:35 2004 From: jon at schalliol.com (Jonathan Schalliol) Date: Thu Jul 29 13:53:04 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Tap...tapp... Message-ID: Like sand in a very large hour glass, so these are the days of our lives awaiting T-Mobile to let Mark Space release its product. ?M/S, is there someone we can complain to at T-Mobile? I know it's their doing, and not yours or Danger's, that we can't have our sync. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.markspace.com/pipermail/missing-sync-hiptop-talk/attachments/20040729/19e197ab/attachment.htm From wilcox at unm.edu Thu Jul 29 16:12:09 2004 From: wilcox at unm.edu (Sherman Wilcox) Date: Thu Jul 29 14:12:13 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Tap...tapp... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 7/29/04 2:52 PM, "Jonathan Schalliol" wrote: > Like sand in a very large hour glass, so these are the days of our lives > awaiting T-Mobile to let Mark Space release its product. And like sand in that same hour glass, I await the release of a new Treo. Then so long SideKick, hello Treo and Missing Sync. -- Sherman From gss+hipsync at cs.brown.edu Thu Jul 29 18:15:06 2004 From: gss+hipsync at cs.brown.edu (Gregory Seidman) Date: Thu Jul 29 14:15:10 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Tap...tapp... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040729211506.GA21237@cs.brown.edu> On Thu, Jul 29, 2004 at 03:52:35PM -0500, Jonathan Schalliol wrote: } Like sand in a very large hour glass, so these } are the days of our lives awaiting T-Mobile to } let Mark Space release its product. } } ?M/S, is there someone we can complain to at } T-Mobile? I know it's their doing, and not yours } or Danger's, that we can't have our sync. Well, it's a long time to wait but it seems that it will be possible to write a seamless iSync conduit for OS X 10.4 whether T-Mobile likes it or not, just by scraping the web interface. Not ideal, but at least possible. It seems that an SDK will be released for sync services for 10.4, thus allowing anyone who feels like it (and someone will) to write that scraper. --Greg From cookhb at philly1.com Thu Jul 29 18:27:56 2004 From: cookhb at philly1.com (Harry B. Cook) Date: Thu Jul 29 14:28:00 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Tap...tapp... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1091136478.259C5E33@r31.dngr.org> Yeah ... Is there a petiton we can sign or something? sent via sidekick ... Harry B. Cook Director, Philly1.Com http://www.philly1.com Home of The Weekly Press & UC Review From gtapolow at mac.com Thu Jul 29 15:59:36 2004 From: gtapolow at mac.com (Andrei Tapolow) Date: Thu Jul 29 14:59:47 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Tap...tapp... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <94E402CE-E1AA-11D8-A81F-000A9589205E@mac.com> Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: PGP.sig Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 186 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part Url : http://lists.markspace.com/pipermail/missing-sync-hiptop-talk/attachments/20040729/7278d9ee/PGP.bin From wilcox at unm.edu Thu Jul 29 17:08:02 2004 From: wilcox at unm.edu (Sherman Wilcox) Date: Thu Jul 29 15:08:08 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Tap...tapp... In-Reply-To: <94E402CE-E1AA-11D8-A81F-000A9589205E@mac.com> Message-ID: On 7/29/04 3:59 PM, "Andrei Tapolow" wrote: > mythical Trio 610 {With bluetooth} as soon as it is no longer myth. The way the Treo 600 is going on sale ($150 on Amazon) makes me think the 610 may not be a myth much longer. > T-(im)Mobile seems to miss the fact that people who pay more for a product, > don't do so because they are stupid and like to spend money. It's because they > are willing to invest in something better. Amen, perfectly stated. -- Sherman From dand at pcisys.net Thu Jul 29 18:25:09 2004 From: dand at pcisys.net (Dan Duncan) Date: Thu Jul 29 16:26:12 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Tap...tapp... In-Reply-To: <94E402CE-E1AA-11D8-A81F-000A9589205E@mac.com> References: <94E402CE-E1AA-11D8-A81F-000A9589205E@mac.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 29 Jul 2004, Andrei Tapolow wrote: > I have to agree with other people that as much as I love the Hiptop, > iuf I can't find a carrier that is going to give me that technology for > what it is and what it can be, I'm going to be jumping ship to the > mythical Trio 610 {With bluetooth} as soon as it is no longer myth. Don't forget the upcoming models of the Nokia Communicator (9500), and the P910 from SonyEricsson. Nokia FINALLY added GPRS to the Communicator and while they were at it, Wifi and Bluetooth to boot. The P910 is like the P900 but has a QWERTY thumb board on the back of the flip. Both are GSM world phones so you can also give Tmobile the boot. -DanD, Lovin my P800/Zaurus combination. -- # Dan Duncan (kd4igw) dand@pcisys.net http://pcisys.net/~dand # As jy dom is moet jy sukkel. (South African saying which translates as # "If you are stupid you must suffer.") # From CZasl at netrox.net Fri Jul 30 17:18:37 2004 From: CZasl at netrox.net (Cheryl Z) Date: Fri Jul 30 13:16:17 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Re: Sidekick vs. Treo 600 In-Reply-To: <200407301944.i6UJhu3x025365@penguin.markspace.com> Message-ID: Just out of curiousity... is there anything the SIDEKICK CAN do, that the Treo 600 CANNOT?? They're both supported by T-Mobile, correct??? I'd be tempted to switch to the Treo, but I need to KEEP the data features that the Sidekick offers, because I don't use the voice-phone function. I get my POP-email on my Sidekick, AIM, SMS text, and web browsing (not the WAP text browsing!) Thanks for the info... CZ On Friday, July 30, 2004, at 03:44 PM, missing-sync-hiptop-talk-request@lists.markspace.com wrote: > And like sand in that same hour glass, I await the release of a new > Treo. > Then so long SideKick, hello Treo and Missing Sync. > > -- > Sherman > From gtapolow at mac.com Fri Jul 30 15:04:04 2004 From: gtapolow at mac.com (Andrei Tapolow) Date: Fri Jul 30 14:04:13 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Re: Sidekick vs. Treo 600 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Allo all, For me the AIM is the sticking point. I interact with someone regularly (family member) who is unable to use a phone. AIM becomes our primary medium for communication. The impression I have is that the 600 is using a proprietary version of Palm OS that causes some programs not to run correctly (the AIM client being one of them) I read somewhere that the 610 would use the newer unified OS for Palm to make sure that it runs all apps written for Palm devices. Beyond that... I'm not even sure if there is an AIM client for the Palm. Comments? - -Andrei On Jul 30, 2004, at 1:18 PM, Cheryl Z wrote: > Just out of curiousity... is there anything the SIDEKICK CAN do, that > the Treo 600 CANNOT?? They're both supported by T-Mobile, correct??? > > I'd be tempted to switch to the Treo, but I need to KEEP the data > features that the Sidekick offers, because I don't use the voice-phone > function. > > I get my POP-email on my Sidekick, AIM, SMS text, and web browsing > (not the WAP text browsing!) > > Thanks for the info... > CZ > > > > On Friday, July 30, 2004, at 03:44 PM, > missing-sync-hiptop-talk-request@lists.markspace.com wrote: >> And like sand in that same hour glass, I await the release of a new >> Treo. >> Then so long SideKick, hello Treo and Missing Sync. >> >> -- >> Sherman >> > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list > missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFBCrfKei4q9cz8GHARAhNfAJ9TeRvh8onz+FqS9EvPKhxNUoak+wCeOETw 2lZ4HEwUly6lHkBU0l3v1a0= =jCEc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From dand at pcisys.net Fri Jul 30 17:57:36 2004 From: dand at pcisys.net (Dan Duncan) Date: Fri Jul 30 15:57:38 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Re: Sidekick vs. Treo 600 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, 30 Jul 2004, Cheryl Z wrote: > Just out of curiousity... is there anything the SIDEKICK CAN do, that > the Treo 600 CANNOT?? They're both supported by T-Mobile, correct??? Sure. The Sidekick can keep your data locked up so you can't export it to anything else. -DanD -- # Dan Duncan (kd4igw) dand@pcisys.net http://pcisys.net/~dand # The difference between the right word and a similar word is the difference # between lightning and a lightning bug. --Mark Twain From poberman at mac.com Fri Jul 30 21:54:00 2004 From: poberman at mac.com (Paul oberman) Date: Fri Jul 30 20:54:31 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Re: Sidekick vs. Treo 600 Message-ID: <200407310354.i6V3sNw8028636@mac.com> The sidekick has some nice features, but with the right software the treo can match them. You can't use blazer though ___ Sent with SnapperMail www.snappermail.com ...... Original Message ....... On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 16:57:36 -0600 (MDT) Dan Duncan wrote: >On Fri, 30 Jul 2004, Cheryl Z wrote: >> Just out of curiousity... is there anything the SIDEKICK CAN do, that >> the Treo 600 CANNOT?? They're both supported by T-Mobile, correct??? > >Sure. The Sidekick can keep your data locked up so you >can't export it to anything else. > >-DanD > >-- ># Dan Duncan (kd4igw) dand@pcisys.net http://pcisys.net/~dand ># The difference between the right word and a similar word is the difference ># between lightning and a lightning bug. --Mark Twain >_______________________________________________ >missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list >missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com >http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk From djm8 at cornell.edu Sat Jul 31 01:56:32 2004 From: djm8 at cornell.edu (Jo Miller) Date: Fri Jul 30 21:56:42 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Re: Sidekick vs. Treo 600 In-Reply-To: <200407310354.i6V3sNw8028636@mac.com> References: <200407310354.i6V3sNw8028636@mac.com> Message-ID: I have both the Sidekick and the Treo 600. I keep the Sidekick because: 1. The Sidekick's keyboard is far, far better for typing, so I use the Sidekick for writing e-mail and IM-ing. I write a LOT of e-mail on my handheld, and the Treo's tiny keyboard simply does not support rapid thumb-typing, even with my small girly hands. No software that can change the fact that the Sidekick's physical form factor is--from my point of view, at least--pretty much ideal. 2. The Sidekick's web and e-mail are faster than the Treo's, and you don't have to sit there and wait in one application while it finishes its business. That is to say, on the Sidekick I can click over and browse webpages or write IMs while my e-mail downloads in the background, or read/write e-mails while waiting for a webpage to load. On the Treo, if you try to leave a mail application while it's transferring mail, or a web application while it's loading a slow page, you cancel the process. Mail handling is far, far slower on the Treo than on the Sidekick, in my experience, which is a problem if you get a bazillion messages (and spams) a day, as I do. And by the way, whoever named that browser "Blazer" must have done so in a fit of irony. Compared to the Sidekick's browser, it's excruciatingly slow. Maybe future firmware and software updates will address this issue. I hope so. 3. I love the always-on IM app on my Sidekick. I got the Treo because...well, you know why. Because I had to sync my calendar and contacts, goddammit. And I can't live without Vindigo. And the camera is really quite good. And I must say, I love that "J" key in SnapperMail! Speaking of sync, if you want good wireless sync, go with Verizon for your Treo. They've partnered with Intellisync to provide wireless sync between your Palm and your desktop. Don't hold your breath waiting for Cingular or T-Mobile to follow suit (according to my friend at Intellisync). Jo >The sidekick has some nice features, but with the right software the treo >can match them. You can't use blazer though >___ >Sent with SnapperMail >www.snappermail.com > >...... Original Message ....... >On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 16:57:36 -0600 (MDT) Dan Duncan wrote: >>On Fri, 30 Jul 2004, Cheryl Z wrote: >>> Just out of curiousity... is there anything the SIDEKICK CAN do, that >>> the Treo 600 CANNOT?? They're both supported by T-Mobile, correct??? >> >>Sure. The Sidekick can keep your data locked up so you >>can't export it to anything else. >> >>-DanD >> >>-- >># Dan Duncan (kd4igw) dand@pcisys.net http://pcisys.net/~dand >># The difference between the right word and a similar word is the >difference >># between lightning and a lightning bug. --Mark Twain >>_______________________________________________ >>missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list >>missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com >>http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk > >_______________________________________________ >missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list >missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com >http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk From rmarquez at mac.com Sat Jul 31 08:03:11 2004 From: rmarquez at mac.com (Roy Marquez) Date: Sat Jul 31 04:03:15 2004 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Re: missing-sync-hiptop-talk Digest, Vol 7, Issue 1 In-Reply-To: <200407301944.i6UJhu40025365@penguin.markspace.com> References: <200407301944.i6UJhu40025365@penguin.markspace.com> Message-ID: <3642B050-E2E1-11D8-B947-000393811FE4@mac.com> Hi to all, While waiting to see if T-Mobile *ever* releases the dreaded sync (and while I'm testing a Treo 600 and liking it every day more) the thought came to me: since sync was released to the other North American carrier, would MarkSpace sellt he product for Mac users of that carrier? All the mention of sync for that carrier has been Windows oriented but I haven't read of anything Mac. Just wondering.... From jon at schalliol.com Thu Jul 29 16:52:35 2004 From: jon at schalliol.com (Jonathan Schalliol) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:32 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Tap...tapp... Message-ID: Like sand in a very large hour glass, so these are the days of our lives awaiting T-Mobile to let Mark Space release its product. ?M/S, is there someone we can complain to at T-Mobile? I know it's their doing, and not yours or Danger's, that we can't have our sync. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.markspace.com/pipermail/missing-sync-hiptop-talk/attachments/20040729/19e197ab/attachment-0002.htm From wilcox at unm.edu Thu Jul 29 16:12:09 2004 From: wilcox at unm.edu (Sherman Wilcox) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:32 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Tap...tapp... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 7/29/04 2:52 PM, "Jonathan Schalliol" wrote: > Like sand in a very large hour glass, so these are the days of our lives > awaiting T-Mobile to let Mark Space release its product. And like sand in that same hour glass, I await the release of a new Treo. Then so long SideKick, hello Treo and Missing Sync. -- Sherman From gss+hipsync at cs.brown.edu Thu Jul 29 18:15:06 2004 From: gss+hipsync at cs.brown.edu (Gregory Seidman) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:32 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Tap...tapp... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040729211506.GA21237@cs.brown.edu> On Thu, Jul 29, 2004 at 03:52:35PM -0500, Jonathan Schalliol wrote: } Like sand in a very large hour glass, so these } are the days of our lives awaiting T-Mobile to } let Mark Space release its product. } } ?M/S, is there someone we can complain to at } T-Mobile? I know it's their doing, and not yours } or Danger's, that we can't have our sync. Well, it's a long time to wait but it seems that it will be possible to write a seamless iSync conduit for OS X 10.4 whether T-Mobile likes it or not, just by scraping the web interface. Not ideal, but at least possible. It seems that an SDK will be released for sync services for 10.4, thus allowing anyone who feels like it (and someone will) to write that scraper. --Greg From cookhb at philly1.com Thu Jul 29 18:27:56 2004 From: cookhb at philly1.com (Harry B. Cook) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:32 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Tap...tapp... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1091136478.259C5E33@r31.dngr.org> Yeah ... Is there a petiton we can sign or something? sent via sidekick ... Harry B. Cook Director, Philly1.Com http://www.philly1.com Home of The Weekly Press & UC Review From gtapolow at mac.com Thu Jul 29 15:59:36 2004 From: gtapolow at mac.com (Andrei Tapolow) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:32 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Tap...tapp... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <94E402CE-E1AA-11D8-A81F-000A9589205E@mac.com> Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: PGP.sig Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 186 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part Url : http://lists.markspace.com/pipermail/missing-sync-hiptop-talk/attachments/20040729/7278d9ee/PGP-0002.bin From wilcox at unm.edu Thu Jul 29 17:08:02 2004 From: wilcox at unm.edu (Sherman Wilcox) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:32 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Tap...tapp... In-Reply-To: <94E402CE-E1AA-11D8-A81F-000A9589205E@mac.com> Message-ID: On 7/29/04 3:59 PM, "Andrei Tapolow" wrote: > mythical Trio 610 {With bluetooth} as soon as it is no longer myth. The way the Treo 600 is going on sale ($150 on Amazon) makes me think the 610 may not be a myth much longer. > T-(im)Mobile seems to miss the fact that people who pay more for a product, > don't do so because they are stupid and like to spend money. It's because they > are willing to invest in something better. Amen, perfectly stated. -- Sherman From dand at pcisys.net Thu Jul 29 18:25:09 2004 From: dand at pcisys.net (Dan Duncan) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:32 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Tap...tapp... In-Reply-To: <94E402CE-E1AA-11D8-A81F-000A9589205E@mac.com> References: <94E402CE-E1AA-11D8-A81F-000A9589205E@mac.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 29 Jul 2004, Andrei Tapolow wrote: > I have to agree with other people that as much as I love the Hiptop, > iuf I can't find a carrier that is going to give me that technology for > what it is and what it can be, I'm going to be jumping ship to the > mythical Trio 610 {With bluetooth} as soon as it is no longer myth. Don't forget the upcoming models of the Nokia Communicator (9500), and the P910 from SonyEricsson. Nokia FINALLY added GPRS to the Communicator and while they were at it, Wifi and Bluetooth to boot. The P910 is like the P900 but has a QWERTY thumb board on the back of the flip. Both are GSM world phones so you can also give Tmobile the boot. -DanD, Lovin my P800/Zaurus combination. -- # Dan Duncan (kd4igw) dand@pcisys.net http://pcisys.net/~dand # As jy dom is moet jy sukkel. (South African saying which translates as # "If you are stupid you must suffer.") # From CZasl at netrox.net Fri Jul 30 17:18:37 2004 From: CZasl at netrox.net (Cheryl Z) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:32 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Re: Sidekick vs. Treo 600 In-Reply-To: <200407301944.i6UJhu3x025365@penguin.markspace.com> Message-ID: Just out of curiousity... is there anything the SIDEKICK CAN do, that the Treo 600 CANNOT?? They're both supported by T-Mobile, correct??? I'd be tempted to switch to the Treo, but I need to KEEP the data features that the Sidekick offers, because I don't use the voice-phone function. I get my POP-email on my Sidekick, AIM, SMS text, and web browsing (not the WAP text browsing!) Thanks for the info... CZ On Friday, July 30, 2004, at 03:44 PM, missing-sync-hiptop-talk-request@lists.markspace.com wrote: > And like sand in that same hour glass, I await the release of a new > Treo. > Then so long SideKick, hello Treo and Missing Sync. > > -- > Sherman > From gtapolow at mac.com Fri Jul 30 15:04:04 2004 From: gtapolow at mac.com (Andrei Tapolow) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:32 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Re: Sidekick vs. Treo 600 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Allo all, For me the AIM is the sticking point. I interact with someone regularly (family member) who is unable to use a phone. AIM becomes our primary medium for communication. The impression I have is that the 600 is using a proprietary version of Palm OS that causes some programs not to run correctly (the AIM client being one of them) I read somewhere that the 610 would use the newer unified OS for Palm to make sure that it runs all apps written for Palm devices. Beyond that... I'm not even sure if there is an AIM client for the Palm. Comments? - -Andrei On Jul 30, 2004, at 1:18 PM, Cheryl Z wrote: > Just out of curiousity... is there anything the SIDEKICK CAN do, that > the Treo 600 CANNOT?? They're both supported by T-Mobile, correct??? > > I'd be tempted to switch to the Treo, but I need to KEEP the data > features that the Sidekick offers, because I don't use the voice-phone > function. > > I get my POP-email on my Sidekick, AIM, SMS text, and web browsing > (not the WAP text browsing!) > > Thanks for the info... > CZ > > > > On Friday, July 30, 2004, at 03:44 PM, > missing-sync-hiptop-talk-request@lists.markspace.com wrote: >> And like sand in that same hour glass, I await the release of a new >> Treo. >> Then so long SideKick, hello Treo and Missing Sync. >> >> -- >> Sherman >> > > _______________________________________________ > missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list > missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com > http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFBCrfKei4q9cz8GHARAhNfAJ9TeRvh8onz+FqS9EvPKhxNUoak+wCeOETw 2lZ4HEwUly6lHkBU0l3v1a0= =jCEc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From dand at pcisys.net Fri Jul 30 17:57:36 2004 From: dand at pcisys.net (Dan Duncan) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:32 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Re: Sidekick vs. Treo 600 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, 30 Jul 2004, Cheryl Z wrote: > Just out of curiousity... is there anything the SIDEKICK CAN do, that > the Treo 600 CANNOT?? They're both supported by T-Mobile, correct??? Sure. The Sidekick can keep your data locked up so you can't export it to anything else. -DanD -- # Dan Duncan (kd4igw) dand@pcisys.net http://pcisys.net/~dand # The difference between the right word and a similar word is the difference # between lightning and a lightning bug. --Mark Twain From poberman at mac.com Fri Jul 30 21:54:00 2004 From: poberman at mac.com (Paul oberman) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:32 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Re: Sidekick vs. Treo 600 Message-ID: <200407310354.i6V3sNw8028636@mac.com> The sidekick has some nice features, but with the right software the treo can match them. You can't use blazer though ___ Sent with SnapperMail www.snappermail.com ...... Original Message ....... On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 16:57:36 -0600 (MDT) Dan Duncan wrote: >On Fri, 30 Jul 2004, Cheryl Z wrote: >> Just out of curiousity... is there anything the SIDEKICK CAN do, that >> the Treo 600 CANNOT?? They're both supported by T-Mobile, correct??? > >Sure. The Sidekick can keep your data locked up so you >can't export it to anything else. > >-DanD > >-- ># Dan Duncan (kd4igw) dand@pcisys.net http://pcisys.net/~dand ># The difference between the right word and a similar word is the difference ># between lightning and a lightning bug. --Mark Twain >_______________________________________________ >missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list >missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com >http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk From djm8 at cornell.edu Sat Jul 31 01:56:32 2004 From: djm8 at cornell.edu (Jo Miller) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:32 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Re: Sidekick vs. Treo 600 In-Reply-To: <200407310354.i6V3sNw8028636@mac.com> References: <200407310354.i6V3sNw8028636@mac.com> Message-ID: I have both the Sidekick and the Treo 600. I keep the Sidekick because: 1. The Sidekick's keyboard is far, far better for typing, so I use the Sidekick for writing e-mail and IM-ing. I write a LOT of e-mail on my handheld, and the Treo's tiny keyboard simply does not support rapid thumb-typing, even with my small girly hands. No software that can change the fact that the Sidekick's physical form factor is--from my point of view, at least--pretty much ideal. 2. The Sidekick's web and e-mail are faster than the Treo's, and you don't have to sit there and wait in one application while it finishes its business. That is to say, on the Sidekick I can click over and browse webpages or write IMs while my e-mail downloads in the background, or read/write e-mails while waiting for a webpage to load. On the Treo, if you try to leave a mail application while it's transferring mail, or a web application while it's loading a slow page, you cancel the process. Mail handling is far, far slower on the Treo than on the Sidekick, in my experience, which is a problem if you get a bazillion messages (and spams) a day, as I do. And by the way, whoever named that browser "Blazer" must have done so in a fit of irony. Compared to the Sidekick's browser, it's excruciatingly slow. Maybe future firmware and software updates will address this issue. I hope so. 3. I love the always-on IM app on my Sidekick. I got the Treo because...well, you know why. Because I had to sync my calendar and contacts, goddammit. And I can't live without Vindigo. And the camera is really quite good. And I must say, I love that "J" key in SnapperMail! Speaking of sync, if you want good wireless sync, go with Verizon for your Treo. They've partnered with Intellisync to provide wireless sync between your Palm and your desktop. Don't hold your breath waiting for Cingular or T-Mobile to follow suit (according to my friend at Intellisync). Jo >The sidekick has some nice features, but with the right software the treo >can match them. You can't use blazer though >___ >Sent with SnapperMail >www.snappermail.com > >...... Original Message ....... >On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 16:57:36 -0600 (MDT) Dan Duncan wrote: >>On Fri, 30 Jul 2004, Cheryl Z wrote: >>> Just out of curiousity... is there anything the SIDEKICK CAN do, that >>> the Treo 600 CANNOT?? They're both supported by T-Mobile, correct??? >> >>Sure. The Sidekick can keep your data locked up so you >>can't export it to anything else. >> >>-DanD >> >>-- >># Dan Duncan (kd4igw) dand@pcisys.net http://pcisys.net/~dand >># The difference between the right word and a similar word is the >difference >># between lightning and a lightning bug. --Mark Twain >>_______________________________________________ >>missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list >>missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com >>http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk > >_______________________________________________ >missing-sync-hiptop-talk mailing list >missing-sync-hiptop-talk@lists.markspace.com >http://lists.markspace.com/mailman/listinfo/missing-sync-hiptop-talk From rmarquez at mac.com Sat Jul 31 08:03:11 2004 From: rmarquez at mac.com (Roy Marquez) Date: Fri May 6 12:02:32 2005 Subject: [missing-sync-hiptop-talk] Re: missing-sync-hiptop-talk Digest, Vol 7, Issue 1 In-Reply-To: <200407301944.i6UJhu40025365@penguin.markspace.com> References: <200407301944.i6UJhu40025365@penguin.markspace.com> Message-ID: <3642B050-E2E1-11D8-B947-000393811FE4@mac.com> Hi to all, While waiting to see if T-Mobile *ever* releases the dreaded sync (and while I'm testing a Treo 600 and liking it every day more) the thought came to me: since sync was released to the other North American carrier, would MarkSpace sellt he product for Mac users of that carrier? All the mention of sync for that carrier has been Windows oriented but I haven't read of anything Mac. Just wondering....