[BA-Rockets] Fwd: (rmr) Re: Micro Maxx question-California Dreaming

[Craig R. Saunders]

Hey folks,

When I can, I try to keep an eye on rec.models.rockets for news.  (There 
hasn't been much lately.  I wish folks would just shut up about both BATFE 
and Jerry Irvine.)

Anyway, the attached posting caught my eye as it most obviously will affect 
us.  Which causes me to ask:

* Anyone else see this and have any thoughts?
* Anyone know more about what's going on?
* Can anyone say whether adopting NFPA 1122/1125/1125/1127 is in addition 
to existing reg's or replacing existing reg's?  (ie - Will importers still 
need to be licensed?  Will motors still need to be CSFM certified?)
*  Should we try to get someone involved in the process?  Or at least 
someone who will keep the rest of us informed?

Craig

>Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 20:20:28 -0700
>To: crs at mtrad.com
>From: "Craig R. Saunders" <crs at mtrad.com>
>Subject: (rmr) Re: Micro Maxx question-California Dreaming
>
>On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 14:13:43 -0400, in rec.models.rockets 
>"shockwaveriderz" <shockwaveriderz at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>what can anybody say? its the PRK......don't like the NFPA rocketry laws?
>move to PRK and see  just how restrictive rocketry laws can be when left to
>the state.....
>JI I guess you know the timeline for NFPA 1 in PRK?  I assume ALL the
>rocketeers in the PRK will come worth with input on NFPA 1 ?
>http://osfm.fire.ca.gov/pdf/regulations/2004timeline_new.pdf
>
>Just in case you California rocketeers don't know what I am talking about...
>The state of California is looking towards passing NFPA 1 in CA.....and NFPA
>1 has Chapter 65 which adopts the NFPA 1122/1125/1127 codes.....
>NFPA 1
>65-5 Model Rocketry. The design, construction, limitations of propellant
>mass and power, and reliability of model rocket motors and model rocket
>motor
>reloading kits and their components produced commercially for sale to or use
>by the public for purposes of education, recreation, and sporting
>competition
>shall comply with NFPA 1122, Code for Model Rocketry.
>65-6 Rocketry Manufacturing.
>65-6.1 The manufacture of model rocket motors designed, sold, and used for
>the purpose of propelling recoverable aero models shall comply with NFPA
>1125, Code for the Manufacture of Model Rocket and High Power Rocket
>Motors.
>65-6.2 Permits, where required, shall comply with 1-12.16.
>65-7 High Power Rocketry.
>65-7.1 The design, construction, limitations of propellant mass and power,
>and
>reliability of all high-power rocket motors and motor components produced
>commercially for sale to or use by the certified user for education,
>recreation,
>and sporting competition shall comply with NFPA 1127, Code for High Power
>Rocketry.
>65-7.2 Permits, where required, shall comply with 1-12.16.
>
>You rocketeers out in PRK did know this right?
>
>shockie B)
>
>"Mike" <mrgizmo at vianet.ca> wrote in message
>news:10cu4he6hdn97aa at corp.supernews.com...
>>That is insane even if it is true, I have been flying model rockets here
>in
>>Ontario for 16 years( cops even watching on occasion) and I just found out
>>last week from someone in the hobbie that the property had to be zoned
>just
>>for model rockets, aperently you cant fly at parks or schoolyards. Best
>>thing I have found it to go to an unorganised township and fly on a farm,
>>can be a long drive in some places. Here its a 10 minute drive and most
>>people (especially with kids)will allow you to fly on their property.
>>"Fred Shecter" <fred.e.shecter at zorch.alum.zorch.mit.edu> wrote in message
>>news:HzCpHF.G1s at news.boeing.com...
>> > Yes, they are Model Rocket Motors/Model Rockets. They are classified as
>>such by the CSFM
>> > (the seal is on the motor packaging).
>> >
>> > Permits required.
>> >
>> > -Fred Shecter NAR 20117
>> >
>> > -- > """Remove "zorch" from address (2 places) to reply.
>> > "David Erbas-White" <derbas at arachneering.com> wrote in message
>> > news:yItzc.70958$My6.45519 at fed1read05...
>> > > Never really wondered before, but do the Quest Micro-Maxx rockets fall
>> > > under the same guidelines for launching (in regards to CSFM
>especially)
>> > > as other model rockets (especially given their itty-bitty size?).  I'm
>> > > going to do a minor demo launch soon, and I'm curious (don't worry,
>I've
>> > > got the usual stuff taken care of, but didn't know if using the MM
>> > > products would alleviate some of the problems).
>> > >
>> > > David Erbas-White
>> > >
>> >